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SARAH CONNOR:
The survivors of the nuclear fire
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called the war "Judgment Day".
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They lived
only to face a new nightmare:
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the war against the machines.
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(STONE CRUNCHES)
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(EXPLOSIVES WHISTLE)
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(LASERS FIZZ)
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In late 1989,
James Cameron was troubled.
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Writing into the night,
running on coffee and ambition,
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he was faced with a conundrum.
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What would frighten a Terminator?
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What would make the indomitable
Arnold Schwarzenegger
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quake in his leather boots?
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How do you turn
a cyborg assassin from the future
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into the underdog?
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(METALLIC SQUELCHING)
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(GUN COCKS)
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It took a while
for the second film to be made.
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There were
a number of legal wrangles,
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as well as James Cameron waiting
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for the technology
to catch up with his ambition.
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His scale of ambition was huge,
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and a lot of
the things that he had in his head
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simply couldn't be achieved.
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So the time lapse - the waiting -
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almost played into his hands
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because, by the time
he was able to make the film,
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he was able to do
the things that he wanted to do
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because technology had caught up.
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But that, of course,
did result in then
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it being on a far grander scale in
every aspect, particularly budget,
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and it was, at the time,
the most expensive film ever made.
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Cameron knew in his bones
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he couldn't simply repeat
the same routine.
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The question was -
how do you outdo James Cameron?
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With Terminator 2: Judgment Day,
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he brilliantly chose
to invert the formula.
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He made Schwarzenegger the good guy.
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A new version of the monotone
T-800 fresh off the production line
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is sent back in time,
like his predecessor.
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Only this model
has been reprogrammed
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to protect the young boy
who will one day save the future.
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He is a machine hero,
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the Tin Man with a heart.
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Come with me, if you want to live.
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It's OK, Mom.
He's here to help. It's OK.
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(ANXIOUS PANTING)
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(APPROACHING FOOTSTEPS)
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(THEME MUSIC)
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ARNIE: I want to thank
each and every one of you...
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(WOMAN SCREAMS)
..for coming here today...
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(WHOOPING)
MAN: We love you!
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..because the first Terminator
was such a tremendous success
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in the movies
and video and cable and network
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and all the different areas
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because of great fans like you.
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(CHEERING AND WOLF-WHISTLING)
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But I also told you,
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I'll be back.
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(WHOOPING AND CHEERING)
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The man...
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The main man is back!
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(WHOOPING AND CHEERING)
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When it first came
to crafting a sequel
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to his smash-hit science-fiction
slasher movie, The Terminator,
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Cameron imagined a film more epic
and dazzling in every way -
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all the things
he could only dream of doing
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when he made The Terminator.
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James Cameron
wanted to create something
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which was going to surprise
audiences
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and outdo the original.
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And he was able to do so
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with the help of
a production company called Carolco,
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who were very cash rich
at that time.
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They were an American independent,
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but they had realised
fairly early on
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that they made most of
their money from action flicks.
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So, in 1982, they had
a lot of success with First Blood
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and then in 1985
with the Rambo sequel.
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So they were very much in the market
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for sequels of high-concept
sci-fi action and thriller movies.
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So they managed,
with some difficulties,
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to extract
the rights to The Terminator
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because they were owned
by another production company
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and also co-owned
by James Cameron's ex-wife,
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who was a co-producer
and co-writer on the first film.
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So they managed to extract
the rights to that franchise,
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and then they managed
to get James Cameron on board
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by offering him $6 million
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- the whole budget
of his last film -
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simply as his salary for this film.
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And so that's when the wheels
started turning for Cameron
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to really look at
what else he could do
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with
that much larger scope and budget.
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James Cameron had, in effect,
given away so much of The Terminator
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that I don't think he'd really
thought about doing a sequel.
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It wasn't something
that was part of his project.
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But once Carolco
came through with the money
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and, as he said,
had his full attention,
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he initially just scribbled down
on a yellow legal pad:
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The Terminator and John Connor
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as a friendship -
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and he realised that the idea
would be to bring them together.
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Now, the original Terminator
had essentially been
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within the genre
of almost a slasher flick.
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A lot of the camera angles,
a lot of the storytelling
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is very similar to, say,
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well, not quite a Friday The 13th,
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but maybe A Nightmare On Elm Street,
quite a sophisticated slasher flick.
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So we have a relentless killer,
who cannot be stopped,
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coming after a girl
and someone trying to save her.
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The idea of a nuclear apocalypse
is very much backdropped.
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It's just the situation
that is happening in the future
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that brings around
our slasher flick today.
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And Arnold Schwarzenegger,
this Panzer tank of a man,
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crashing through contemporary
Los Angeles in his search to kill -
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that's your plot, really.
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With Terminator 2,
it's a complete flip.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger
had become a huge star
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with the first Terminator film,
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having made a couple of
Conan movies before that.
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He'd understood that
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Cameron already sort of
got the wind under his sails
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with The Abyss and Aliens,
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and so he was...
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They sort of came together.
There was a confluence of ideas that
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at some stage
when special effects were improving
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that Cameron
would actually make the sequel.
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After the success
of The Terminator and Aliens,
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at the end of the '80s,
this young Canadian,
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veteran of
Roger Corman's B-movie studio,
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was the leading
genre filmmaker in Hollywood,
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but he championed
a brand of science-fiction realism.
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However many cyborg assassins
or alien infestations,
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his films never felt far-fetched.
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Cameron had a gift for
centring his films in human terms,
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real people confronting
future technology that is plausible.
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Over the years,
it was Arnold Schwarzenegger
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who kept the idea
of a Terminator sequel alive,
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pushing his old friend to make
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another action movie
in the same mould.
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After all, it was the role
that made him a superstar.
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The villainous machine
with a mixture
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of a bodybuilder's balletic grace
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and the actor's
blackly comic delivery
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had become a cult favourite.
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Irony now ruled the box office.
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But he was taken aback
when Cameron suggested
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he was now the good guy,
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while remaining
the icy-cool killing machine,
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This science-fiction sequel
can lay claim to being
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the most revolutionary film since
The Jazz Singer introduced sound.
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It transformed an industry,
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for Cameron chose to create
his liquid-metal Terminator
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using computer-generated imagery.
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(CRACKLING)
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(METALLIC SQUELCHING)
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(THUD REVERBERATES)
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DENNIS MUREN: ILM had been around
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for 15 years or so, doing
some really cutting-edge effects.
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Jim had already done
about 52 storyboards
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for what he wanted to do
with this character.
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I'd never seen
anything like it in a film.
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If we could make
this guy that didn't exist,
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this character out of chrome,
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that could be phenomenal.
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Hi, I'm here with John Rowe
at Buckinghamshire New University,
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and we're here to talk about
Terminater 2: Judgment Day
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and the revolution in
special effects that came with it.
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So, John, tell me a little bit about
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the scale
that James Cameron had in mind
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for this sequel to The Terminator.
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Did they know
they were going to get there?
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I mean, in terms of processing power
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and what it required
at Industrial Light and Magic,
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it must have been
a sort of step into the unknown.
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Yeah, it's totally revolutionary.
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I don't think...
I mean, that's the great...
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That attitude and that mindset
still persists to this day.
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I think if... When anybody
comes up with a story idea,
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no matter how fantastical,
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if it is something
that cannot be filmed physically,
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then there are
obvious places that you go to look.
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You can either ask
the art department,
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you can ask the cinematographer
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or you can ask
the visual-effects people.
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They tend to be
the main three places
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that you look for solutions
to your story problems, if you like.
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And the moment it's no longer
art department and cinematography
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and it can't actually be filmed,
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then you have to talk
to a visual-effects supervisor
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or a specialist to say:
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can I actually do this?
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And those were the conversations
that James Cameron had
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with Dennis Muren to go,
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"OK, what's the limit
that I can go to here?"
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bearing in mind a lot of this
hadn't been done before.
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And using the skills he had
and his amazing perception, he said,
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"Well, you can go this far,
but no more."
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And what's interesting is
James Cameron accepted that
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and then said,
"Well, let's go to there."
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There's a story about
Dennis Muren picking up the phone
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and James Cameron
explaining what he wanted.
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And he's like,
"Can you do it, Dennis?"
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And Dennis was like: sure.
Put the phone down and went,
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"Right, what do we do, everybody?"
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It's like they were inventing
as they went.Very much so.
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(GLASS FRAGMENTS TINKLE)
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(FIRE CRACKLES)
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It was shortly before Christmas 1989
when James Cameron's phone rang.
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Mario Kassar was on the other end,
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flamboyant head
of Hollywood independent Carolco.
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The producer had bought
the rights to The Terminator,
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and wanted to know what it would
take for Cameron to direct a sequel.
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The answer for that would ultimately
be a budget for $100 million,
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at the time
the most expensive film ever made.
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And he needed a villain that
would make Arnie look vulnerable -
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not a bigger Terminator,
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but the ultimate stealth machine
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made of
intelligent mimetic liquid metal -
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a new, virtually indestructible
killer assassin.
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(FIRE CRACKLING)
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(METALLIC HISS)
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It was impossible for this work
to have been done two years before,
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but actually it was even impossible
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for this stuff
to have been done a week before
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because
we were learning things that fast.
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This shot is typical
of what's gonna come in this movie.
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You're gonna see
shot after shot after shot
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with no cutting, no tricks.
It's all there.
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It's got the shot at the beginning
that you see something like fire.
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Out of it comes
something you've never seen before,
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which is
this chrome character walking,
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reflecting all the fire around him.
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No cut.
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It's impossible.
You've never seen it.
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So let's have a look
at some of the extraordinary moments
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of visual effects in the film,
and maybe you can talk us through
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exactly what has been achieved
with each of these shots.OK.
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Well, this is a very iconic image
of T-1000 emerging from the flames.
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And he's walking towards the camera,
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the camera tracks with him
and he morphs into human form.
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So the character is CG,
obviously when it's silver,
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and the process they've gone through
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is to composite
that three-dimensional image
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into a live-action backplate.
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The flames are real...
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The CG character is not.
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And what they've very cleverly done
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is match the lighting of the flames
onto the CG character,
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as it comes towards the camera.
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So the tricky bits there are
the lighting and the movement again.
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To my eye,
the transformation from silver man
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into Robert Patrick the actor
is still seamless.
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It does work very well.
You're right.
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But I think, by modern standards,
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it's a little bit crude now,
but at the time...
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It hadn't been achieved before then.
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So you can't knock it.
I mean, it's amazing.
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What he's achieved
is absolutely incredible
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with the technology
that was available at the time.
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They had created
a new technique here to do this.
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It's not something
that existed before.
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I mean, that is problem-solving
taken to a ridiculous level.
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I need a minute here.
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You're telling me that this thing
can imitate anything it touches?
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Anything it samples
by physical contact.
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Get real.
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Like, it can disguise itself
as a pack of cigarettes?
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No, only an object of equal size.
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Why wouldn't it become
a bomb or something to get me?
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It can't form complex machines.
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Guns and explosives
have chemicals, moving parts.
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It doesn't work that way.
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But it can form solid metal shapes.
Like what?
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Knives and stabbing weapons.
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His idea was to create a completely
different kind of Terminator -
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an advance on the original T-800,
as played by Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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And this, he came up with the idea
of a creature made of liquid metal,
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a sort of mercury on legs -
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absolutely extraordinary concept.
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It was a challenge not just to
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the actor
who would eventually play him,
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but also
to the special-effects department,
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including
both Industrial Light and Magic's
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computer-generated imagery,
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but also Stan Winston Studios
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who were creating the puppets
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and all the in-camera
special effects as well.
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All of this had to be combined
into putting together
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a being on the screen
that was utterly believable,
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and that had never been done before.
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It's sort of fascinating
that he started in a place
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where most of us would say,
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"Well, that's sort of a folly.
That's so ambitious."
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The technology to do that,
basically early CGI,
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was not necessarily totally there.
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So there had to be
almost an R&D element,
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and their team kind of grew from
about five people to about 25 people
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because of the amount of work
it took to get this T-1000 right
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and to make his sort of
translucent, quicksilver quality
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of melting into things
and emerging out of things
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and growing different limbs
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feasible on screen.
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(FOOTSTEPS SQUEAK)
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Now, this is the famous scene where
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the T-1000
rises up from the asylum floor.
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Oh, yes. Another very iconic image.
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(COIN JANGLES IN VENDING MACHINE)
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(METALLIC SQUELCHING)
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(STEAMING COFFEE HISSES)
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Let's leave it there.
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But of course the clever part
about it, story-wise,
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is how you now realise that T-1000
can change shape into anything.
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It is explained in the film
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that it can't be tiny,
like a packet of cigarettes.
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It has to be the same sort of size,
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and he can't be something mechanical
with moving parts inside,
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but he can turn himself
into sharp objects,
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like a massive sword arm or a...
and so on.
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But that original...
That start point for the shot,
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where we see the tiled floor,
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in hindsight, again,
if you look at it now, you go:
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actually, that's very clever,
the way that they have chosen
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to start
from that point on the floor
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and then have the character
build up out of the floor.
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Because if you think about it
mathematically,
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inside the computer,
you start with a piece of geometry.
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So, of course, that's well hidden
by the tiles on the floor.
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And so,
they've created a piece of geometry
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which changes shape,
to form a human shape,
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and then superimposed it optically
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over the piece of film
that they've shot in the corridor.
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Fantastic.
You make it sound so easy now,
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but I'm sure at the time it was...
It's still not very easy.
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None of this stuff is easy...
(LAUGHS)
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..but the thought process
for working out
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the effective way of
using what is available at the time
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and then covering it up, so that it
looks seamless or it looks natural,
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I mean, it's very clever.
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(FOOTSTEPS CLICKING)
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Robert Patrick is critical
to the success of Terminator 2
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for a number of reasons -
the first one being
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it was not technically possible
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to have an entirely
CGI-animated Terminator-1000,
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because they barely had
the technology to do 42 shots.
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They could not have made
the film without a real person.
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But they also needed a real person
who was incredibly different
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in their physicality
to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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They needed...
He wanted to set this person up
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as being
the extreme opposite of the T-800 -
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someone who was fluid,
who moved in a particular way,
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who could...
This idea of the East versus West,
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the different kind of energy
to the great hulking T-800.
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But also he had to be a character
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who was so amorphous
in his appearance that,
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when he first arrives
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on screen,
you have to believe he's a goodie.
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He goes into
a police uniform and a police car
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and, for a while,
when he's in the police car
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and he's got to serve and protect
and he's in the police uniform,
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you believe that he's the good guy.
He's there to be the hero.
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He's very similar to Kyle Reese
in the first film.
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But then, as soon as
you realise that he's the bad guy,
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you notice there's just something
slightly off about his face.
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It's almost like he has elfin ears
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or he's slightly not quite human.
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Now, that's phenomenal.
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There's an actor there who can be,
on one hand, the hero,
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and just as the scene changes,
you look at him again
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and you suddenly see,
no, he's clearly bad.
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It's an amazing performance.
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So Robert Patrick, to me, is one
of the most unforgettable villains
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of any film of this kind, certainly.
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He just keeps coming, and of course
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that's the terror of the entire...
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of both
the first and the second film.
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I think it can't be understated
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how much Terminator 2
transformed the film industry,
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particularly around technology
and special effects and CGI.
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The head of Industrial
Light and Magic at the time said
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that, without Terminator 2, there
would've been no Jurassic Park,
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and without Jurassic Park
there wouldn't...
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And you continue
all the way down the line
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to things like Lord Of The Rings.
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That whole... I guess all the R&D
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that was involved in getting
to the point in Terminator 2
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where you could have those...
you could achieve those effects
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meant there was no going back.
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People started to see
what was possible.
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If you were going to pick
a group of people
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who would be able to solve
these incredible problems,
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then Dennis Muren and the team
at Industrial Light and Magic
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were the people
to go to at the time,
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having had great success
with The Abyss,
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which was, as far as I'm aware,
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really the first CG character
on the screen.
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To go from that to then
creating the T-1000 character
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with the mercury look
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was a natural progression
in terms of CG,
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but still had never been done
before.
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It was absolutely incredible
what they achieved.
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From a visual-effects person's
point of view,
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to pick water in the first film
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and shiny surfaces
in the second film was madness.
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These are two of the hardest things
you can do.
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So the scale of ambition was huge.
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Get out.
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Arghhh!
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(PROPELLOR BLADES WHIRRING)
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Come with me, if you want to live.
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It's OK, Mom.
He's here to help. It's OK.
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(ANXIOUS PANTING)
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(APPROACHING FOOTSTEPS)
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(FOOTSTEPS CLICK)
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Now, this shot
is just extraordinary, isn't it?
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The most remarkable shot
in the whole film.
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(METALLIC GURGLING)
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(METALLIC HISS)
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DENNIS:
My favourite shot is the one where
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the T-1000 walks through the bars.
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When you shoot the background
for it, it's actually fairly simple.
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We had Robert stand there,
walk up and do his performance,
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and then had him walk away
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and had the bars just by themselves,
and then took the bars away
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and he walked in there and then
did the whole performance again -
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walked and pretended they were there
and walked on through.
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And with those three pieces of film
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we could make
the computer graphic image
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that you see in the film.
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It turned into an amazing shot.
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(METALLIC CLINK)
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(GUN CLANKS)
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Go.
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The clanking of the gun,
to me, just sells the scene.
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It's perfect storytelling.
Yeah.
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Which is often the way with the most
successful visual-effects shots,
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because of course sound is half of
everything that we do in filmmaking.
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So, often, that is
the key to selling a VFX shot
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is a sound effect that
kicks in just at the right moment
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and really sells the idea
that what you're seeing is real.
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And how would you describe
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James Cameron's storytelling
in relation to special effects?
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He has changed the way that stories
are told. There's no question.
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I mean, the types of story
that he tries to tell
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couldn't be told
without visual effects.
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And he has taken it to a level
that nobody dreamed possible
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with every single film that he's
done, every project that he's done.
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In so many situations,
so many other movies over the years,
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you can see
an advancement in technical process
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where something
is tried for the first time,
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is successful - and
everybody shares that information.
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What I love about visual effects
is the fact that
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people don't hang on to their ideas.
They're happy...
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Visual-effects people
love showing off
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and they like to show people
how they've done things.
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And so
this becomes an accepted practice.
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It becomes a norm. And so,
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having seen
characters like this in liquid form
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for the first time,
there have been many copies.
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Give me a five.
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SARAH CONNOR:
Watching John with the machine,
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it was suddenly so clear.
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The Terminator would never stop.
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It would never leave him,
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and it would never hurt him.
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Never shout at him
or get drunk and hit him,
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or say it was too busy
to spend time with him.
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It would always be there
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and it would "die" to protect him.
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Of all the would-be fathers
who came and went over the years,
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this thing - this "machine" -
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was the only one who measured up.
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In an insane world,
it was the sanest choice.
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Cameron has become the most
successful director of all time
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because his films
touch on universal themes.
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He makes love stories.
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This is the tale of a boy
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and the Terminator guardian angel
he comes to love.
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Their relationship
is funny, touching
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and ultimately heartbreaking.
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As they seek to escape the T-1000
and avert future catastrophe,
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rescuing Sarah Connor
from an asylum,
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a family unit is formed.
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With Cameron, not only do you get
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these extraordinary advances
in special-effects technology,
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these kind of
leaps and bounds in storytelling,
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you get
a very strong emotional core.
492
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,080
He once said that
all his films are love stories,
493
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,320
and I kind of understand that.
And in this case, it's a love story
494
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,920
between a boy and a Terminator
and the forming of a family.
495
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Very much so. It is. It's the...
496
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800
It's a broken family
being reunited and held
497
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,600
and brought back together again
498
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,680
and Arnold Schwarzenegger
playing that father figure,
499
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,400
the father he never had.
500
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,600
He's very dismissive
of his stepfather -
501
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,320
his foster father.
Yeah.
502
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,560
And so he now has somebody that,
503
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,920
because he has such high standards,
that he expects a man to be -
504
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,720
there is an example of somebody
he can actually look up to for once.
505
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,560
But also I think there's
that lovely moment where he realises
506
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,440
that the Terminator
has to do what he says,
507
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,480
and that is a beautiful moment.
508
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,480
Because then he goes,
"Great, don't kill anyone."(LAUGHS)
509
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,200
(ANXIOUS BREATHS)
510
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Jesus, you were gonna kill that guy.
511
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520
Of course, I'm a Terminator.
512
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200
Listen to me very carefully, OK?
513
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,480
You're not a Terminator any more,
all right?
514
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,840
You got that?
515
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,120
You just can't
go around killing people.
516
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,160
Why?What do you mean - why?
Cos you can't.
517
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Why?
Because you just can't, OK?
518
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,120
Trust me on this.
519
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,840
Cameron needed to find the perfect
12-year-old to play John Connor.
520
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,920
It was a tall order. As he put it:
521
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,840
This punk kid becomes the Julius
Caesar of a dystopian future.
522
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,520
Arguably, he is the protagonist.
523
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,080
They finally found Edward Furlong at
a Boys and Girls Club in Pasadena.
524
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,400
He had a twitchy intensity
525
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,880
and his cocky assurance was
a front for a troubled background.
526
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,680
He was raw, certainly,
never having acted before,
527
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,840
but he had real chemistry
with Schwarzenegger on screen.
528
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720
I think
Edward Furlong is great in the movie
529
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,280
because
he has to go through, in a way...
530
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560
The journeys of
each of the three main leads
531
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,560
are very, very different, but
they follow a similar kind of arc
532
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,440
in different directions.
It's an exploration of humanity
533
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,040
and an exploration of family love.
534
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,240
So, at the beginning, John Connor
is absolutely uncontrollable.
535
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,960
He's a wild kid.
536
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,920
And he has to,
in his interaction with the machine,
537
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,800
in his attempt to teach
the machine to be more human,
538
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,920
he gradually understands
how HE can be more human.
539
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,760
So he loses the hard shell
540
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,920
and becomes the kid who says,
"Stop killing people.
541
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,520
You can't kill. Be good."
542
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,280
Being human
is about forgiving, letting go,
543
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,720
and that's how he learns himself
to forgive and let go,
544
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,840
and that's how he learns, finally,
to appreciate his mother.
545
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Look, I'm gonna go get my mom,
546
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000
and I order you to help me.
547
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Cameron was determined
he couldn't do the sequel
548
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160
without Linda Hamilton
as Sarah Connor.
549
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,480
But the actress had one condition
before she would accept.
550
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000
"I want to be crazy," she told him.
551
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,240
It made logical sense.
552
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,120
Sarah Connor knows
the world is going to end,
553
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,600
and no-one believes her.
554
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
The actress
got into incredible shape.
555
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Hamilton would push
to do her own stunts,
556
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,280
learn to pick her handcuffs
557
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,440
and strip an automatic rifle
while blindfolded.
558
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120
Linda Hamilton
in the first Terminator film
559
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,760
is very much a victim.
560
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,520
She is a waitress who is on the run
from the implacable Terminator.
561
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,640
In order to reprise her role
562
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,640
in Terminator 2,
she said, "I'll definitely do it,
563
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,360
but I want
the character to be crazy."
564
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,480
It was as if
she was suffering from PTSD.
565
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360
She had been incarcerated.
566
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920
She'd had the terrible experience
567
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,040
of having to deal and see off
the Terminator in the original film.
568
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,240
She had built herself up into
569
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,560
this sort of
basically survivalist commando.
570
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,520
When it comes to Terminator 2,
she has spent years
571
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,480
preparing for the apocalypse.
She knows it's coming
572
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,680
because she's met the apocalypse
in the form of the Terminator.
573
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,400
And she's been training.
574
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120
She's been trying to convince people
that doom is coming.
575
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,960
And of course no-one believes her.
They think she's crazy.
576
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,360
So she's physically superb.
She's trained.
577
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,640
And indeed, Linda Hamilton trained
and trained and trained and trained,
578
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,520
but also in the film,
579
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,480
she's seen as completely mad
and is in an asylum, essentially,
580
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,600
where she's still
working on her training
581
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,400
and has to be busted out
to come to her son's aid.
582
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,920
So she is logically
where you'd expect
583
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320
someone who's had that
sort of experience to be.
584
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,120
Her mind was almost broken
by what happened in the past.
585
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Now, in the future, all
of her nightmares are coming true.
586
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240
(FAINT OPERATIC SINGING)
587
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,440
(CHILD SQUEALS)
588
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,880
(MOUTHS)
589
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Mama!
590
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,040
(MOUTHS)
591
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000
(METAL MESH RATTLES)
592
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,800
Hey, let's do this one.
593
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,720
(FENCE RATTLES)
594
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,200
Whee!
595
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,440
There we go!
596
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,400
(RATTLING INTENSIFIES)
597
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,440
(CHUCKLES)
598
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,040
(SPEECH MUTED)
(HARSH RATTLING)
599
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,880
(CHILD SCREAMS)
Argh!
600
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
James Cameron
definitely gives the impression
601
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,680
of somebody that was sort of
haunted by nuclear anxiety.
602
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,560
And he said that he was writing
the first Terminator film,
603
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,280
and he was listening to Sting
604
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
and listening to Sting lyrics
about the Russians.
605
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,320
So, there's definitely that kind
of miasma of, like, nuclear anxiety
606
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,440
throughout his writing.
607
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,240
But with Terminator 2,
608
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880
he again takes a step
into the very ambitious.
609
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,440
And for a scene
which only lasts a few moments
610
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,880
completely recreates the image
of a nightmare of a nuclear blast,
611
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,480
which is really terrifying,
you know,
612
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280
and
it's in Sarah Connor's nightmares.
613
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,520
But he went out of his way
to do that.
614
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,400
Probably a lot of people
will have said,
615
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,760
"Is that necessary?"
And I'm sure it was very expensive.
616
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,600
But it was clearly
something that preoccupied him
617
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,600
and something that
he wanted to put upon the audience
618
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,760
as the stakes
that the future of humanity
619
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,640
and the future of mankind
are dependent on what happens
620
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,640
with this mother-son
father-surrogate-son dynamic.
621
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880
The relentless shoot ran for months,
622
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,760
moving between
hundreds of Los Angeles locations,
623
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,600
like a vast military operation
led by a single-minded general.
624
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Cameron
was an unstoppable visionary,
625
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,560
demanding everything and more
from his cast and crew.
626
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,320
To his view, filmmaking
had to be a heroic struggle,
627
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,280
a contest against Olympian odds.
628
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Because Cameron - and he's not
given enough credit for this -
629
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,760
is such
a personal instinctual filmmaker.
630
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,760
In his youth,
he grew up near Niagara Falls,
631
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,840
and he would hear
the falls and the water
632
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,120
and he would run wild in the woods
633
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200
over
these enormous limestone gorges.
634
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,000
And right across his films,
there's his childhood
635
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,400
being played out in these
extraordinary ways, these visions.
636
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400
He says
he dreams a lot of his images up.
637
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Well, this was a dream.
638
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,880
The whole concept
for this film started,
639
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,400
as far as I understand, as a dream,
640
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,400
and it was then,
when he started developing the idea,
641
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,240
the whole story came out.
642
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,480
But he must have been eating cheese.
(LAUGHS)
643
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,640
It was a fever dream, he said.
It was a fever dream. Exactly.
644
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560
That came out of his head.
I don't know where that comes from.
645
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,719
(MAN AND WOMAN
CRYING AND WHIMPERING)
646
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,120
Oh, my God.
647
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,719
Now, listen to me very carefully.
648
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Unleashed into hungry cinemas,
Terminator 2 fulfilled its destiny
649
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,920
and became
the biggest film of all time -
650
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,679
something that would become
a habit for Cameron.
651
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,600
But it wasn't just about
652
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,760
the sensationalism
of blockbuster making.
653
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,719
Cameron has
the uncanny Hitchcock-like gift
654
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,679
for anticipating
the audience reaction.
655
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,000
(GUNSHOT)
656
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,400
(METALLIC CLINKING)
657
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,160
(GUN COCKS)
658
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560
(RATTLING)
659
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,960
I love that shot.
660
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000
It's a witty
piece of special effects.
661
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,320
It's lovely, isn't it?
I mean, the subtlety
662
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,560
is what that's all about,
without question.
663
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,760
And of course
it helps you understand
664
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,880
more about the character
and about what this...
665
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,800
The poly...
The poly-mimetic alloy.
666
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160
The poly-mimetic alloy.
(LAUGHS)
667
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
I love that. The poly-mimetic alloy
668
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,360
is intelligent
and it goes and finds itself.
669
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,640
But what I find fascinating
about people like James Cameron
670
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600
is that they really understand
what the world looks like.
671
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,040
And so they have
this ability to translate that
672
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,960
into very interesting storytelling
673
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,720
or fascinating
or fantastical storytelling.
674
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,440
And again that very much goes with
675
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,600
where visual effects
fit into the storytelling process
676
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,760
and how people go about
realising these amazing effects.
677
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,000
Because you really have
to understand what things look like,
678
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,760
because what we're talking about
is an emulation process.
679
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,640
You are mimicking real life,
680
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,400
and you have to make things
look like they are real.
681
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,440
So if you don't know what
things look like in the first place,
682
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,200
it's quite a hard thing to do.
683
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:33,400
But in Cameron's case, he is
particularly driven by realism.
684
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,640
Even though
his films are science fiction,
685
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,800
and in many ways
they're very far-fetched,
686
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,360
the way they're made and the way
the story is told is realistic.
687
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,280
Very much so. Yes.
688
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,880
And there's
a whole load of themes going on,
689
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480
which, again, watching it back
after so many years,
690
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,960
there's many themes within that
which really drive home
691
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040
the time and the place
where the film was made.
692
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Vital to the ethos of Terminator 2
693
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,000
is the iconography of Los Angeles:
694
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,920
familiar locations,
695
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,360
but transformed into a shimmering
mythic rendition of the famous city.
696
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,680
It is a look
Cameron christened "tech noir",
697
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,040
this atmospheric blue veil
698
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,640
that turned the city by night
into a dream scape.
699
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,960
The city of Los Angeles has a number
of roles in the film Terminator 2.
700
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,080
For a start, it is shot,
701
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,400
in fact, ironically,
in a way to save money,
702
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,920
it is shot at night
using natural street lights.
703
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,680
So the feel that you get
704
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,680
for what James Cameron
later termed "tech noir"...
705
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:41,280
The idea of Los Angeles
is a very well-established noir city
706
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,000
from way back in the 1940s.
707
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040
A lot of noir films were shot there.
708
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,920
It's important to have
those references to noir film
709
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400
for James Cameron
and to shoot it in the same way,
710
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,440
in many ways, with that sort of
same look and that same feel,
711
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,200
so that the connection between
712
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,360
the different schools of noir
were clear.
713
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,120
The other crucial thing
in Los Angeles
714
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,240
is that you have to have
a city which has the capability
715
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520
to deliver huge chases on freeways,
716
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,560
but also believably contain
a state-of-the-art defence system.
717
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Now, as it happens,
of course Los Angeles DOES have
718
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,600
a strong connection
with the defence industry.
719
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,280
It does have all of these things.
720
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,320
If you wanted to invent
the perfect city for Terminator 2,
721
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,240
you would invent a city which
was very much like Los Angeles.
722
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,160
And he didn't have to -
he lived there.
723
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,640
CHRISTINA: Tech noir is
a good way to put it, and in a way
724
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
it encapsulates again the...
725
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,600
not contradiction as such,
726
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,800
but the two sides
of Cameron's approach,
727
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,520
which is quite tactile
old-school storytelling
728
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,760
with emotional realism, with
a sense of the past of filmmaking,
729
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880
with a sense of
how a narrative should move.
730
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Quite traditional in that sense,
731
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,200
with a much more
radical series of ideas
732
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:54,320
that are challenging about
technology, about our humanity,
733
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,280
the philosophical questions
about the future
734
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,520
and the dangers
inherent in technology,
735
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,560
in AI, which is of course
fascinating in its own way
736
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,360
because this is James Cameron
we're talking about.
737
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,920
The kind of technology
that he's been involved in
738
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,200
over the past 30, 40 years
739
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,360
has been intrinsic to how
cinema has changed in many ways.
740
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,280
What's extraordinary is,
considering it was created
741
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,920
as a fictional piece of work
742
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,240
and it was created
with all kinds of things -
743
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,600
scientists researching
in atomic energy authorities
744
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680
in nuclear facilities who said,
745
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,960
this is without doubt
the most realistic depiction
746
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,200
of a nuclear explosion they've
ever seen in a fictional film.
747
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:43,760
Terminator 2 is more than just
a great science-fiction epic.
748
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,000
It is a genuine... It offers
a genuine emotional experience,
749
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560
for all the reasons
that we've spoken about.
750
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,360
The fact is
that it has a human heart,
751
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,720
that it is basically
about relationships.
752
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520
The thriller element,
the science-fiction,
753
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,960
the dystopian element,
is sort of the framework of it.
754
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,680
It's the context of it.
755
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:09,280
But what you have at heart
is a very human story.
756
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,440
OK, one of those central figures
isn't actually human,
757
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,720
but he's sort of
moving towards humanity
758
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,200
or moving towards
some kind of emotion
759
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,880
that he didn't have to begin with.
760
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Storytelling has always
battled with the idea of describing
761
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440
something which we have never seen
or which we cannot see,
762
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,880
and telling a story through it
and trying to make that convincing.
763
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,400
Now, whether
that's just reading out a book
764
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,600
or whether
you start to get into stage plays
765
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,640
and you start to get into the way
the Victorians would try to create
766
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,840
a ghost through Pepper's ghost or
try to get early monsters on films,
767
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,800
which would essentially be
someone in a rug with a claw.
768
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,520
This ability to convey
the unimaginable or the long dead
769
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,800
- all of these things
that we can't see -
770
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,760
has been something that storytellers
have been obsessed with.
771
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,800
And then
James Cameron comes along and says,
772
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400
"Actually, look.
Look what I did. I've done it.
773
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Only through 42 shots maybe,
774
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,960
but
this computer can make anything."
775
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,200
And Hollywood descended on it.
776
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,480
I would imagine in my head,
I'd like to think that
777
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,400
the following morning,
after the film broke,
778
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
there was a queue of directors
outside the offices
779
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,320
of Industrial Light and Magic with
their scripts. "Can you do this?"
780
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,760
The one that really stands out
for me is Jurassic Park,
781
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880
because
there's a moment in Jurassic Park
782
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,560
where Laura Dern
looks at the dinosaurs.
783
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:34,080
And she is seeing, as a
palaeontologist, for the first time,
784
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000
all of the things that she's spent
her whole life imagining.
785
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,880
And she's us at that point.
786
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,920
She is us looking at CGI and saying,
787
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,440
all of these things
that we've read about in books
788
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,160
and we've imagined in our heads,
789
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
we can just put them
on the screen now
790
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,800
and we can see them
as if they're real.
791
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,640
And that's what changed.
792
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Of course, the building of a film,
793
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,840
the construction
of action sequences,
794
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,840
required
a whole new level of thinking.
795
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Very much so,
and this is where you realise
796
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,920
that the VFX artists
are a combination
797
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,680
of an artist and an engineer,
798
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,960
and it's bringing
those two things together.
799
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,160
It's art and science
working together
800
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,520
in solving problems, if you like,
801
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,560
technical problem solving,
802
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,440
that allows that thinking
to become a reality.
803
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,360
And of course, James Cameron's
father was an engineer
804
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,480
and his mother was an artist.
He often says
805
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440
he's the perfect combination
of those things as a filmmaker.
806
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,160
He IS the perfect combination.
807
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,800
And that is actually
what makes it interesting
808
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,720
to teach visual effects
as a subject, because, of course
809
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,560
often it's the people
who have interests in both areas
810
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160
who make the very good
visual-effects artists.
811
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,360
It's not unusual to find people
812
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880
who have a pure physics background
813
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,600
working in visual effects
814
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,200
because you have
to understand the physical world.
815
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,120
In the same way,
it's not uncommon
816
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
to find mathematicians
working in visual effects
817
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,800
because it's all computer based.
It's all maths.
818
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,360
But if there was such a thing,
819
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,640
the ideal VFX artist would be
820
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,720
a combination
of art, maths, physics.
821
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,000
We've really enjoyed being here.
My thanks to you, John,
822
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,920
for taking us through the film
in such incredible detail.
823
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,960
It was great fun. Thank you.
824
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,040
We should never forget
that this film
825
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,280
is a superb piece
of movie engineering,
826
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,080
gripping storytelling
told at a thunderous pace
827
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,600
in which we never lose touch
with the characters.
828
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Hasta la vista, baby.
829
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,240
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830
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,480
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831
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,040
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