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(TRAIN WHISTLES, CHUGS)
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(SWEET MUSIC)
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MAN: Good morning.
Good morning.
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Good morning, ma'am.
Good morning.
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Good morning, Mrs Wilberforce.
Good morning, Mr Brown.
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Good morning, madam.
Good morning.
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Much has altered over the years,
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but this labyrinth of streets
around the Kings Cross area
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is the setting for one
of the greatest comedies ever made.
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A heist movie, a murder story,
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a fairy tale steeped in London soot.
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A parable of Britishness,
and a comedy of manners
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in which a gang of thieves
TRIES to kill a little old lady.
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
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What would you say made
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The Ladykillers
such a timeless comedy?
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Because it was so different
in turn to any other British film
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I've ever seen, I think.
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It was a comedy,
but it had a dark side to it.
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And the amazing thing is
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there's so many different
interpretations of it.
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Mackendrick said once
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that if it had not been a comedy,
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if he'd made it straight,
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it would've been censored
out of all existence.
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He could never have made it.
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So it was a comedy,
but it was a dark comedy.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC)
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IAN: The Ladykillers remains one of
the greatest British movies ever made
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because it has not lost its sting.
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The digs that
Rose-Mackendrick made in the '50s
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are still relevant today.
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The dark surrealism of the film
can be found in Monty Python.
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The social satire is nearly
every British sitcom since.
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Of course, comedy,
good comedy, is a serious business.
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('MINUETTO' BY BOCCHERINI PLAYS)
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How about that.
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Eh?
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How about that.
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(SWEET MUSIC)
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NARRATOR:
London is a city of secret places
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of unexpected country lanes
and hidden gardens.
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The Prime Minister
lives like a professional man
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in a plain house on the side
of a narrow cul-de-sac.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC)
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(BIRDS SQUAWKING)
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All right. All right.
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(SQUAWKS)
All right, my dear.
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I haven't been gone
so very long, have I?
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Oh darling, water. Oh.
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(MUSIC INTENSIFIES) (LOUD SQUAWKING)
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(NOSTALGIC MUSIC)
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(MUSIC BECOMES OMINOUS)
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It was here on Argyle Street,
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where Alec Guinness's grotesque
Professor Marcus takes a room,
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the perfect location
from which to spring
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the perfect plan
to rob the mail train.
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In that famous shot
in which we first meet him
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at the front door, we see
St Pancras station framed behind him.
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(TENSE MUSIC)
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Mrs Wilberforce?
Yes.
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I understand you have rooms to let.
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Oh, the rooms? Yes. Won't
you come in, please?Thank you.
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As the '50s arrived,
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a victorious
but exhausted post-war Britain
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was getting back on its feet,
asking itself, what comes next?
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Cinema was still
a national preoccupation.
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Amid austerity and rationing,
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the British public were hungry
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for films that reflected
the changing times
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and they were desperate for laughter.
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(BELLS CHIMING)PRESENTER:
Already Piccadilly is very much
as it was before the war.
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The British haven't yet forgotten
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when the lights went out
for six long years.
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(GONG CLANGS)
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(AIR RAID SIRENS WAIL)
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All was darkness then,
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except for light slightly.
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The illumination
of those years destroyed
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more than the historic buildings
and human lives.
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Accumulated wealth was spent
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and the foreign investments of
centuries sold to purchase victory.
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When victory came at last,
Britain was flat.
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(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
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In Britain in the 1950s,
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the country was getting over
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the worst aspects of the war.
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So, rationing had started to end.
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You were starting
to see modernisation creep in.
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Interestingly,
this film, The Ladykillers,
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is shot in the steam age,
but in 1955, when it was released,
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diesel trains began
to replace steam trains.
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So we're on the very verge
of modernisation,
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moving into the 20th century
as a country.
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The social makeup of London
in the 1950s
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was fairly tumultuous.
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The people were coming out
of the shadow of war.
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They were also trying to cope
with continuing austerity,
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and there were
a tremendous amount of problems,
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social problems on the streets.
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And yet, there was a sense that
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we had won the war
and were unravelling in the peace.
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Now, London
had been bombed to pieces.
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There were gaping holes
in the buildings,
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in the infrastructure, in the roads
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and it was being rebuilt
but piecemeal,
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a little bit at a time.
The country was broke,
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it was borrowing money to get by
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and so everything that was happening
was happening where it could.
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There's constant bomb sites which
people were taking advantage of.
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There was all sorts
of dodgy business was possible,
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because there was so much money
changing hands in odd ways.
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There were still the remnants
of the black market.
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There were still gangsters
operating in Soho.
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It was a very mixed up,
messed up time,
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but that was also a time
of enormous potential.
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A time when someone with a good idea
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or an imaginative approach
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or, as this film shows,
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a cunning semi-legal,
if not entirely illegal enterprise,
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could probably slip through the gaps
in society and make their way.
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(INTRIGUING MUSIC)
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Picture the scene:
Kings Cross in 1955.
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The scars of the war
are still evident,
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but the times are changing.
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Advertising hoardings, motor cars,
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a sense of possibility hangs
in the polluted air.
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London is bustling into the future
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by fair means or otherwise.
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So Ealing Studios' properly,
the way that we see it,
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sort of golden age
in the 1940s and 1950s,
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really happens after Michael Balcon
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who was an early mogul,
who helped Hitchcock
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get some of his films off the ground
in the 1930s, came along.
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And Ealing Studios, as we know it,
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happened just around the beginning
of the Second World War.
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And throughout the second World War,
Balcon was very interested
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in the idea that film should have
some social responsibility,
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and he was interested in expanding
what kind of things could be done.
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And so he started to make films
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that were concerned
with war propaganda,
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things like
Went the Day Well in 1943.
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And by the late 1940s,
had sort of perfected
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a very British, very sort of genteel
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style and approach, and also
a really nice way of working,
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which included contracting
most of its players out.
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So by 1949, he had Alec Guinness,
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he had the people that you associate
with the Ealing comedy.
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The films are an inspired reflection
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of a jaunty, disrespectful side
to the British character.
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The plucky island
that has stood up to Hitler,
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a spirited non-conformism
that had hibernated
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during the pomp of the empire
and Victorian times,
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but had been reawakened by the war.
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Indeed, it is often the tension
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between these two sides
of Britishness,
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tradition and subversion,
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that stirs up the comedy.
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And never more so
than in The Ladykillers.
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NORMAN: Ealing comedies
were a reflection
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of the national character
at the time.
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They caught the zeitgeist
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of how people were feeling.
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They caught the idea that,
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having seen off the Nazis at a cost,
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that they had a sense of...it had
built up that sense of resistance.
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That idea that you could be
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sort of tribal in a way.
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It brought out the idea of course,
that Britain was an island nation
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and that they would resist
all invaders.
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It left the nation
with a somehow a sort of residual
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sense of resistance,
which was transferred
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to institutions and authorities
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that they didn't care for. They
didn't want to be put down anymore.
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They wanted to actually
have more freedom.
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And so Michael Balcon,
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who understood the British
character very, very well,
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he brought together a whole gang
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of like-minded directors
and writers,
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and indeed editors.
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The Ladykillers is the last
of the Ealing comedies,
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a collection of comedies
that had nailed this period
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because the studios had worked
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with a variety of different
directors during the war.
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They'd learned a documentary style.
They wanted realism.
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They wanted to look at the streets,
the stories around them
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and appeal actually
to a largely working-class,
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cinema-going audience.
So, it was very aware
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of these changes
and The Ladykillers was the final...
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if you like... Because the studio
was closed pretty much after this.
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It was sold to the BBC
and the concept of the Ealing comedy
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ended with The Ladykillers.
This was their final hurrah.
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May I introduce Mr Lawson?
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How do you do gentlemen?
Mr Lawson?
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And Mr Robinson.
Mrs Wilberforce.
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Mr Robinson.
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All right. Thank you.
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You believe it all.
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That's the amazing thing
about the film.
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It is a kind of a fantasy, isn't it?
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It's got a sort of fable-like
structure to it, hasn't it?Yes. Mm.
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It does have, but you keep
on watching and you believe it all.
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That's the extraord... And I think
that's one of the reasons
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you believe it all, is the old girl.
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Yes, Katie Johnson. Yes.
Katie Johnson.
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She's, you know,
a fairly unknown figure,
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but she's so good in the film.
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She keeps it on a steady, I mean,
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she doesn't try
to be funny in any way.
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Yes.
She is...completely...herself.
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It's that marvellous quality
of great comedy.Yeah.
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None of the actors or characters
know they're in a comedy,
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for them the world is dead straight.
Yeah. Exactly, yes.
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And she certainly is. She's a...
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She really bases the whole thing
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in reality I think,
more than anything else.
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(METALLIC CLANGING)
(PIPES SHUDDERING, BANGING)
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(WATER GURGLING AND HISSING)
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(CHUGGING)
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WOMAN: (OVER PA)
The train now arriving
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at Platform 1...
(TRAIN WHISTLING)
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..is the 1:05pm from Cambridge.
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(SUSPICIOUS MUSIC)
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This is King's Cross Station,
one of the main hubs of London
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in the 1950s and it was in this area
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The Ladykillers took place.
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# BOCCHERINI: Minuetto #
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Now she's driving away.
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Under the artful eye of director
Alexander Mackendrick,
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the most cunning
of the Ealing directors,
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in The Ladykillers,
Kings Cross is not just a backdrop,
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it is a character.
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This is the perfect microcosm
of London in 1955.
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The oblivious traffic streaming by
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that serves as both
an opportunity
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for the professor's gang of rogues
and a trap.
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They will never escape its grip.
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In fact, they will only ever be free
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of Mrs Wilberforce's
strange little house
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via, how should we put it?
The back door.
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The plot of The Ladykillers
is relatively simple.
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It's a caper movie to begin with.
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It's about a gang of criminals
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who have plans to rob a security van
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on King's Cross Station.
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The element
that is unusual about this
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is that they want to use
a little old lady
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who lives right on the edge
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of the Copenhagen Bridge,
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which is part of one of the tunnels
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leading into Kings Cross.
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And they're going
to actually use her
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to get the loot
away from the station
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and to safety, because
that is where the danger lies
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in the aftermath.
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We have to have someone to bring out
the money. Let's get a professional
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or bring it out ourselves.
A spectacular getaway, you mean?
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That's 70 miles an hour in the heart
of London, in broad daylight.
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(CHUCKLES)
(LAUGHS)
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I'll take it back into the station-
And send it out by train?
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What any intelligent policeman
would expect us to do.
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Quite a flair for the obvious.
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Can't you appreciate
that Mrs Wilberforce
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is not a mere appendage to my plan.
She's the very core of it.
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So, we have Mrs Wilberforce,
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who is a very old lady,
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slightly fussy,
slightly bewildered.
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She's well-known
at the local police station
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for constantly going in
and reporting crimes
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which aren't crimes.
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She has a room in her house
that she wants to let out,
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and this mysterious
Professor Marcus appears
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and rents out the house.
This is Alec Guinness's character.
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Very rapidly, it becomes clear
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that he's putting together
a gang to do a job.
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They want to-to pull over a van
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and steal what's in it,
but for this, they need a patsy.
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So he tells her that they're going
to have a string quintet
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practicing upstairs
during the evenings in her house.
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And does she mind?
She doesn't mind. She loves music.
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Once they've got the goods,
once they've got the money,
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they need to get it past the police.
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And the way
they've decided to do this
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is to tell the old lady
to go to the station
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and pick up a case which she's
got to bring back to the house.
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That's the genius,
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as the Professor Marcus insists,
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that's what's perfect
about his perfect plan
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is that the police will be looking
for money going out,
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but what they're going to do
is bring the money in.
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There is this wonderful quality
in The Ladykillers
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that it takes real life
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and sort of re-serves it up
in dark comic terms.
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So, the gang
are essentially a-a model
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of the real life gangs
of Kings Cross.
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The Italian gangs.
They are, yes. They're a model of...
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what was going on, really.
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After all,
what does Peter Sellers play?
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He plays an archetypal spiv,
really, doesn't he?Yeah.
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And uh...Herbert Lom is
the international one...
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um...dead serious.
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He's the most-
Yes. He's the assassin, isn't he?
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Yes. He's the assassin.
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So as a contrast to Mrs Wilberforce,
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who has this kind of rosy,
quaint English-ness
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and a real politeness,
but also has this sort of
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iron-fist-in-a-velvet-glove quality
about her,
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this kind of
unbreakable sense of self
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and how things should be
in the world.
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Versus the men, the criminals,
that pile into the picture.
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Each of them represents
a very specific part
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of British society at that time.
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So, you have the youngest
of the bunch,
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you have Peter Sellers
who comes along,
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and this is basically
your East End,
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cheeky spiv character.
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He even has the sort of draped,
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flat lapel jacket
that the Teddy boys used to wear.
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He represents sort of
the danger of youth,
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of the youth rebellion, I guess,
of the period to some extent.
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You have Herbert Lom
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who was a Czech-born,
half-Jewish actor
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who came to Britain
to get away from the Nazi invasion
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of what was then Czechoslovakia.
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And he had a side
in playing villains.
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He was always playing villains.
He had both seemingly the demeanour
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and I guess at the time
what people consider to be
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the right accent for it.
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And I think
he's the scariest of the bunch.
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I think he very much represents
this idea of um...
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of a foreign threat.
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Making up the gang is
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the huge thug played by Danny Green,
who is the muscle.
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If-If-If you'd imagined
a potato talking,
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it would talk in the voice
of Danny Green.
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You have the major Cecil Parker,
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wonderful sort of faux gentleman,
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bit of a coward,
probably cashiered from the army
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if indeed he ever was in the army,
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but a sort of prime
cowardly con-man type.
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This is a wonderful collection,
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but it's headed by Guinness.
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He gives
an extraordinary performance.
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Guinness's performance
as the professor
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is a comic marvel of straight acting.
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When he first read the screenplay,
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he was sure that it had been written
for Alastair Sim.
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He was assured by all around him
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that, "No, no, no, it's for you,
Alec. It's your story".
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Nevertheless,
what Guinness decided to do
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was play the role as Alastair Sim.
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So, that extraordinary look,
the hairpiece, the teeth,
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the dark eyes, the pale skin,
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is in a way based on Alastair Sim,
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especially his version
of Ebenezer Scrooge.
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Alec Guinness served during
the Second World War in the Navy.
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He was a landing craft commander
during the invasion of Sicily.
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He would also go back to the UK
now and again to appear
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in patriotic plays. So he was
in a play about bomber command
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and the odd film
where he played a soldier.
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He had prior to the war been
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in a number of theatrical
productions, including one
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he'd devised himself, which is
an adaptation of Great Expectations.
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And just after the war,
David Lean took the idea
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of that adaptation and then
further adapted it with Ronald Neame
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into the film Great Expectations,
in which he cast Alec Guinness,
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which is his first big film role.
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Then, his first big breakthrough
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popular appeal movie was
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Kind Hearts and Coronets,
which was an Ealing Comedy's comedy,
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and it was the beginning
of his career with Ealing.
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In Kind Hearts and Coronets,
he plays all the members
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of the D'Ascoyne family,
who are murdered one at a time.
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So, he plays a variety
of very cartoon-like characters,
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which is interesting when you think
of his career.
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He'd been playing
Shakespearean roles largely,
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almost entirely
up until the Second World War,
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then, coming out of it,
he plays some serious roles.
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He's got some romantic comedies
under his belt to come.
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He was going to be a romantic lead,
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but he was quite prepared
to take these very, very
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over-the-top, cartoonish roles.
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What's wrong? Major! Major!
Tell me what's happening!
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Louis! Louis!Major!Will you
mind your own business, please?
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So, with Alec Guinness,
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sort of rightly placed,
both as an actor
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and in every other sense,
as the ringleader of this group,
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it is a wonderful ensemble piece
of a film in terms of these actors.
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But it's really interesting
to see someone who would become
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as huge as Peter Sellers
in sort of a second-fiddle part.
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Of course, at the time,
Sellers was more than happy to just
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be on a film set
with Alec Guinness.
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He regarded him as one of his idols.
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He said he was happy
just to watch Alec Guinness act.
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Guinness in return
once recalled that he felt
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that Peter Sellers
was rather sulky or quiet on set.
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Maybe because he was intimidated,
although that's just me inferring.
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But Guinness is,
I think rightly deserving
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of that level of adulation
from Sellers
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and from I think the rest of us.
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Because the ability
with which he could switch
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between, you know, Shakespeare
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and comedy, something like
Kind Hearts and Coronets
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to Bridge on the River Kwai,
which was only a few years later
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in 1957, is...is really remarkable.
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Guinness never overdoes things.
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His performance is brim full of
subtle ironies and physical comedy.
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He's the devil
in a threadbare jumper.
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There is something Mephistophelian
about his performance.
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It is less the ill-gotten gains
at stake than his own cleverness.
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He unravels
as the plot unravels around him.
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Arrogance is his downfall
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and he cannot understand
why this little woman
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has destroyed his master plan.
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(WHISTLE BLOWS)
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(CHUCKLES) I'm always leaving it.
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(PROFESSOR LAUGHING)
LOUIS: What's she doing? What?
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MAN: What's going on here?
It's all right.
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It's just that she went
back to get her umbrella.
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# BOCCHERINI: Minuetto #
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LOUIS:
She could have shopped us all.
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The silly old-
Uh...what you're knocking her for?
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She done it, didn't she?
We're nearly home, Louis.
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What can possibly go wrong now?
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(KNOCKING) Driver! Stop at once!
Hey, what?
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Born in Boston
of Scottish heritage
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and raised in Glasgow,
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Alexander Mackendrick
was a gifted artist.
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He had been a political cartoonist
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and drawn propaganda pieces
during the war,
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and then moved into documentaries.
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The head of Ealing Studios,
Michael Balcon,
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had reluctantly accepted him
as Director of Whiskey Galore.
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And Mackendrick would wrap
his stylish comedies
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in barbed wire and through films
like The Man In The White Suit
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and The Lady Killers
come to be seen
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as the greatest exponent
of the Ealing comedy.
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He was very politically minded.
A lot of his cartoons
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are quite satirical and quite edgy.
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During the Second World War,
he worked in the film industry
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and was part of a group of people
who helped to restructure
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the Italian film industry.
So, when he came back to the UK,
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he, instead of going back
into advertising and cartoons,
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he went into working
for Ealing Studios,
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where, initially,
he worked as a sketch artist
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and gradually took
little assistant directing jobs
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until his first directing job
for the studios
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was Whiskey Galore about Scots
thumbing their noses at the English.
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And he worked his way up
through The Man in the White Suit,
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which was seen by Ealing
as excessively satirical
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and this, The Ladykillers, was his,
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I would argue his finest work.
It was his farewell to the UK.
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He left after this
to go to America
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and it really is
the apogee of his career.
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It's a phenomenal piece of work.
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It's interesting
that Alexander Mackendrick ended up
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on The Ladykillers
because Michael Balcon
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did not originally want him for it.
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He'd made a film in 1951
for Ealing Studios
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called The Man in the White Suit,
which was, I think,
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quite politically subversive
and spiky for its time.
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And perhaps slightly
outside of the remit
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of what Ealing usually did,
which tended to fall back on
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slightly more cosy truisms about
British authority, particularly.
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Mackendrick was known
for having a little bit more of a,
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perhaps more quietly,
but still a subversive attitude.
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He had also a little bit
of a different background
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to perhaps
some of the other Ealing directors.
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He came from Boston originally,
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by the time he was seven,
he had both lost his father
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and his mother had left him behind.
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So, his grandfather took him
to Scotland where he was raised.
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And perhaps
partly as a result of that,
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he had something
of a lonely childhood.
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By the time he was making movies,
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you can see some of that cynicism
about humanity, I think,
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and some darkness in that work.
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And so even though
he was not originally slated
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to end up on The Ladykillers,
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he was already friendly with
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and had worked with William Rose,
the screenwriter.
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Ironically, but fittingly,
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The Ladykillers is a creation
of two outsiders
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who had made Britain their home,
and they brought a disdainful
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and slightly distant examination
of the country to the film.
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The screenwriter William Rose
had been born in Missouri,
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but was stationed in London
during the war,
488
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,120
married a local woman and stayed on.
489
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,600
So, he could observe British manners
from close quarters.
490
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,920
He wrote five screenplays for Ealing,
among them Genevieve,
491
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,400
and claimed to have dreamed up
his masterpiece in its entirety.
492
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,640
Brilliantly structured,
piercingly clever
493
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,720
and scaberulously funny,
494
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,560
the screenplay for The Ladykillers
would be nominated for an Oscar.
495
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,800
(DUBIOUS ORCHESTRAL MUSIC)
496
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,160
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
497
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Shut up.
It's just sitting there.
498
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,280
Look, could we-No-one, I hope, is
going to suggest that we steal it.
499
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,240
So, you're talking about two people,
to some extent or another
500
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,800
who had a slightly external view
of British-ness,
501
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,640
but also seemingly could take
a scalpel to it in certain ways.
502
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,520
And so when they met at this meeting
503
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840
at Ealing Studios
that they had weekly
504
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,400
and Rose mentioned that the
entire concept of The Ladykillers
505
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,920
came to him in a dream,
Mackendrick was fascinated by that.
506
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
That was when he thought
he could really do something
507
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,360
with the material because
it was quite an unusual concept.
508
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,880
Well, Mackendrick
is a director who...
509
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600
..really came from Scotland
and did things differently.
510
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,320
Him and Robert Hamer were the best,
I think, of that group of directors.
511
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,680
Yes.
But he was the most original,
512
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,400
and this is the most original
of all the films
513
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,400
that are so admired now.
514
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,360
Were they admired at the time?
515
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,520
I mean, they're revered now.
Yes, they were. I think they were.
516
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,280
But I think the Americans thought,
517
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,560
oh, the funny British
are at it again, you know,
518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,320
but they did like this film,
didn't they?Yes.
519
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,880
I think it was um...
520
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,720
was well remarked upon,
and as I say,
521
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Mackendrick was immediately
invited to Hollywood.
522
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Rose and Mackendrick
had had slightly difficult dealings
523
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,880
with each other
on a previous film, The Maggie,
524
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000
but at the weekly meetings
at Ealing,
525
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,680
when Rose pitched his new idea,
which he dreamed of,
526
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Mackendrick took to it immediately.
527
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240
He saw the possibilities
and so the two of them
528
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,120
really collaborated on this script.
529
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Interestingly enough, Michael Balcon
was rather nervous of the script
530
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,280
and so was Rank,
the distribution company.
531
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,760
However, Mackendrick had his way.
532
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,680
He said, "I can make this film
with Rose's script",
533
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040
which actually wasn't completed
at the time of filming.
534
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,320
And, that it won't be...
He assured Balcon
535
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,680
that it wouldn't be too satirical
or too political.
536
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,280
In fact, what it did give
Mackendrick was the opportunity
537
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,560
to actually put all these elements
in, in a much more coded form.
538
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,640
And I think that's one of
the reasons why The Ladykillers
539
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640
is so endearing.
540
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,000
Because every time you see it,
you see yet another little layer.
541
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560
You see another little element um...
542
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,160
that has been smuggled in
by Mackendrick.
543
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Alexander Mackendrick has said
this is a film
544
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,480
about Britain in subsidence,
and I think it's significant
545
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760
that Rose and Mackendrick
were both outsiders.
546
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,120
They were looking at the UK
547
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,360
in this slightly bewildered fashion.
548
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800
For instance, William Rose had
previously written Genevieve,
549
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560
this film about this car race
to Brighton.
550
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,960
There's a scene in that
where two people cannot understand
551
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,160
why in a boarding house they have
to pre-book their hot water
552
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,360
for 30 minutes. And after
they've complained... (CHUCKLES)
553
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,320
..one woman says,
"Are they Americans?"
554
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,400
And you can see
that's William Rose's voice.
555
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,400
That's the man,
the American in Britain.
556
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600
You've got to book your hot water?!
557
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,360
And this film
is very much like that.
558
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,680
It's people
looking at Britain and going,
559
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,800
"This is how they do things?!
560
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
"This is how crimes are committed?
This is insane!"
561
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,960
But it's done
with enormous affection.
562
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
(SINGING INDISTINCTLY)
(DOOR OPENS)
563
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
564
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Ah, professor!
565
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
(LAUGHTER)
566
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,520
Your last rehearsal! Ah, professor,
567
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,800
I must give you back
your ten shillings.Thank you.
568
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,240
You see, the cab man wouldn't take
any money cause he said
569
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
he was going
into some other business.
570
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,240
In terms of style, Mackendrick
was recalling German expressionism,
571
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,000
particularly the work
of Fritz Lang and F W Murnau,
572
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,040
films such as M and Nosferatu.
573
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,000
You can see the Vampire
in Nosferatu in Professor Marcus
574
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,160
and Mackendrick makes wonderful use
of exaggerated silhouettes.
575
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Tall, dark angles
576
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160
and this division,
this sort of scale
577
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,840
between the little old lady
and these mobsters in her home.
578
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,600
So, Mackendrick
was extremely visually
579
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,320
and cinematically literate,
as you might expect,
580
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760
and you can see with him that as
much as he has an ear for dialogue,
581
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,800
which he's well known for,
he also has a great eye here
582
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,600
in these interiors. Even though that
house looks very sort of cluttered
583
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,160
and overcrowded by people
and so forth,
584
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,880
he finds a way
to get those Dutch tilts in,
585
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,000
and he finds a way to kind of get
those angles at an odd skew.
586
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,000
And it only aids this feeling
of this kind of dream-like sense
587
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,600
of things not quite being right,
588
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,200
because whose perspective
are we looking at here or from here?
589
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Even when the camera's kind of
floating around behind
590
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,920
the heads of characters, it's almost
like an omniscient viewpoint,
591
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240
which suggests that there's
someone else in the room watching
592
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,920
all of this as though it's almost
like an out-of-body experience
593
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,680
to see it. And I think
that's really fascinating.
594
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,520
NORMAN: This is a film
that is shot on real locations,
595
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
but it has the exaggeration
596
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,760
and the distortions of
597
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,120
a kind of really grim fairy tale.
598
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Not only that, but it moves
through different ways
599
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,760
and modes of comedy, of farce,
600
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840
into something
that is close to film noir.
601
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
It goes into a caper film.
602
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,920
One of the impressive things
about this film is that
603
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520
this actual robbery itself...
604
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,120
So meticulous
is that depiction of that robbery
605
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,200
that it was...
The film was banned for being shown
606
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,320
in prisons for many years
607
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,920
after a bunch of ex-convicts
performed a robbery
608
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960
based almost entirely
on the robbery in this film.
609
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Once you've got
the measure of this film,
610
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040
once you've got the idea
that you are watching something
611
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400
that is unreal,
but in a realistic environment,
612
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040
then you've got it.
You can play with anything.
613
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080
The interior
of Mrs Wilberforce's house
614
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120
encompasses all of Mackendrick's
expressionist games.
615
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,760
It appears tilted,
a fairy-tale house
616
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000
built around a bewilderment of rooms
617
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,800
and these inconstant pipes
618
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,320
that Mrs Wilberforce encourages
with a rubber mallet.
619
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320
Mackendrick classified his film
620
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040
as a parody of Britain in subsidence.
621
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,680
It was just on the edge, wasn't it?
622
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,800
Yeah.When you look at it now,
you think...
623
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
..is that working?
624
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,120
You know, but it does.
Somehow, it works.
625
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,520
These ridiculous crooks...
Yeah.
626
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760
..who are really quite real,
627
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760
as well as being ridiculous.
628
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,320
There's something fantastical
about this film, isn't there?
629
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Yeah.When you see it again,
you think, gracious me,
630
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,080
I've never seen a film
quite like this.(CHUCKLES)
631
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,840
ALL: (SINGING)
# Shine upon my brow today
632
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,880
# Life is fading fast away #
633
00:32:50,841 --> 00:32:53,840
(CHUGGING)
634
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,440
(OMINOUS MUSIC)
635
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,680
It was over there on Frederica Street
636
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800
where the facade of the house
was specially built.
637
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,360
In the film, Frederica Street
overlooked the railway line
638
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
and the mouth of Copenhagen Tunnel.
639
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,600
This gave Mackendrick
his Dante-like images
640
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,400
of criminal bodies being dispatched
641
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
onto passing coal trains to descend,
642
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,680
we don't doubt, all the way to hell.
643
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
(RAILWAY TRACKS CLATTER)
644
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120
(BOLD MUSIC)
645
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520
ONE-ROUND: Guess who's next!
646
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,160
Of course comedy, good comedy,
is a serious business,
647
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560
and there are many different ways
in which The Ladykillers
648
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040
has been read over the years.
649
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Is it some kind of psychological
study of the family unit,
650
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,800
where Mrs Wilberforce
becomes the mother figure
651
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,400
and the reason, the very reason,
the gang finally can't kill her?
652
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,800
Is it that there is
an honour amongst thieves,
653
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,760
there are certain levels
they will not stoop to?
654
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,159
She is their mother.
How could they possibly kill her?
655
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,239
Then it is read
as a political satire.
656
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,520
The between Mrs Wilberforce
is the unchanging,
657
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,600
unstinting,
conservative side of things,
658
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,920
whereas the gang
is huffing and puffing
659
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,280
to change things in the 1950s,
660
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,920
but they cannot change tradition.
661
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,920
NORMAN:
Mrs Wilberforce is the emblem
662
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,400
of a kind of older generation
of Britain,
663
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960
the one who grew up
with Victorian values,
664
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,600
one who is sort of full
665
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,720
of moral rectitude.
666
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960
And although on the surface
667
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,280
she appears to be one
of Ealing's kindly,
668
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,760
little benign, genteel,
little old ladies,
669
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,760
she's actually got
reserves of strength
670
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,960
and fortitude that emerge
during the course of the film.
671
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
NATHAN: What they're doing
is they're pinpointing a moment
672
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:23,000
in British history and they're
drawing in a variety of characters
673
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680
and a variety of archetypes
and a variety of narratives,
674
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,960
and putting them
into this one mythical place
675
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,840
in order to illustrate a point.
676
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,480
And the point is the change
that Britain is about to go through
677
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,960
or is currently undergoing
and how it is irreversible,
678
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,720
but how Britain is trying to fight
back and trying to stop it.
679
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,000
And this is very much
what Mackendrick was clear on.
680
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,520
It's a satire, it's a social satire,
about the state of the nation.
681
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,760
He saw the lady that is not killed
despite the title,
682
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Mrs Wilberforce,
as symbolic of Old Britain,
683
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,040
the Pre-War Britain,
the Victorian Britain
684
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,920
that was still clinging onto
its ideas and its principles.
685
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,680
And he saw the gang as modernity.
686
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,120
They represent these types
that were coming in, you know,
687
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,800
trying to get their purchase
into this tiny weenie street,
688
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,800
which is holding onto
all its values.
689
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,800
And he saw that as being
what the film was about.
690
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,280
So really, so much of the...
691
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,200
the cen... like, the linchpin,
I guess I would say
692
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,160
of The Ladykillers
is the performance
693
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,920
from Katie Johnson
as Mrs Wilberforce.
694
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160
And Katie Johnson was an actress
695
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,320
who was sort of a jobbing,
supporting actress
696
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,240
for decades in British film.
697
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560
So it's fair to say
that some British audiences may well
698
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,160
have recognised her face.
699
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Which I think only heightens this
feeling that you get in the film
700
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,640
of here's an actress who's,
I believe, 76 years old
701
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,840
when the film was being made
or as the film came out
702
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,480
and is already a likable character.
She's a very sweet, little old lady,
703
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,680
but it gives you the sense that
audiences or contemporary audiences,
704
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,000
would've been on
this woman's side in some ways.
705
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,280
They'd been watching her
for a long time,
706
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,720
but she'd never had
her name by the title.
707
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,200
She'd never got
a proper credit on a film
708
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,680
or been in a real starring role,
even over all those years.
709
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,160
So, Alexander Mackendrick
actually spoke to Ealing
710
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,640
and spoke to Rank, the distributors,
and wanted to get her name
711
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,200
above the title,
which he succeeded in doing.
712
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,280
But then you could always
get that in British films.
713
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
When you look down the cast list,
714
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,800
you've seen a number of bit players,
who hardly...you hardly...
715
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Frankie Howard is a barrow boy,
for goodness sake.Yes! (CHUCKLES)
716
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Young man!
Do you mind?
717
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,600
That's the charm of the film
718
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,040
and the charm of lot of British
films at the time is the cast list.
719
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,760
Oh, good God, it's him and him,
and her and her.
720
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,360
And it's certainly true
of this film.
721
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
And it creates a texture,
doesn't it? Because...
722
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,360
they're all very different actors...
Yes, absolutely.
723
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,720
..and that kind of mixture
sort of gives it something.Yeah.
724
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,080
I think the real...it advertises
725
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,960
the fact
that British character actors
726
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640
are probably
the best in the world.
727
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,880
I don't know
whether that's true or not,
728
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,040
but I think it is,
and this...this film
729
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,120
absolutely agrees with that theory.
730
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Yeah.
But what it's about,
731
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,520
it's very difficult to ascertain.
732
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,240
What do you think it's about?
733
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,520
I think it's about,
734
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,520
on one level it's a morality tale.
735
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,720
Yes, it is. Yes.
It's about...
736
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,560
wrongdoers who get their comeuppance
delivered to them...Mm.
737
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,760
..by fate, by the little old lady.
738
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,640
I think as you said, it is
a portrait of a changing time.
739
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,280
I think we'd come out of the war
and the empire, the old order,
740
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,640
have been sort of pushed aside...
Mm.
741
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,400
..and this new order
hasn't found itself yet.
742
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,360
So the crooks kind of represent
that aspirational side.
743
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,760
It's definitely a comment
on its time.Yeah.
744
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,760
Definitely. But quite what
that comment's actually saying is,
745
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880
well, you can have all sorts
of theories about it.Yeah.
746
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,560
The Ladykillers remains one of the
greatest British movies ever made.
747
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
What's more,
it is hugely influential.
748
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,120
It's had such an influence
on pop culture.
749
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,520
The dark surrealism of the film
can be found in Monty Python.
750
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,800
The social satire is nearly
every British sitcom since.
751
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,560
It's kind of fairy-tale London
can be felt in films as diverse
752
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,440
as The Long Good Friday, Performance,
and the Harry Potter films.
753
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,320
And the Coen Brothers
proved with their remake,
754
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040
it was an unrepeatable film as well.
755
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,680
I think that The Ladykillers
is a masterpiece
756
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,160
for many, many reasons,
not least visually.
757
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
It's timing is so impeccable.
758
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080
The comic timing,
the combination of the screenplay,
759
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,080
someone like even Peter Sellers
who was fairly green at the time,
760
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,560
just the way he can land
a simple quip,
761
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,160
it's...it's flawless.
762
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,560
And people will always laugh at it,
763
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,360
regardless of the fact
that it's really specifically
764
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960
in 1950s Britain,
it doesn't really matter.
765
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280
It-It travels. Like there's this
wonderful moment with Peter Sellers
766
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
that I always think of and it's not
one of the bigger comic moments,
767
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,880
I don't think, but to me,
it just shows the brilliance
768
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,280
of the combined efforts
of all the creative people
769
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,200
involved with the film.
Where you get
770
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,040
the old ladies piling in
for the tea party,
771
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
the initial idea is Herbert Lom's
like, oh, we'll throw her
772
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,960
in the car. Oh, we're gonna have
to take that one too.
773
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520
The second woman comes in
and then they all start coming in,
774
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,600
and Peter Seller's looks
and he says, "What shall we do?
775
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,800
"Charter a bus?" And it cuts.
776
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Doesn't let you have
any reaction time.
777
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,160
It cuts away immediately
and keeps moving the action.
778
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,760
(WOMEN CHATTER INDISTINCTLY)
What do you think we should do?
779
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,520
Charter a bus?
(CHATTER CONTINUES)
780
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
The Ladykillers is a superb film
781
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,360
because it can exist
in pure isolation
782
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,560
as a fable, as a fairytale,
783
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,720
and yet it is also if looked at,
a document of its time.
784
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,440
So, you can study this film
almost endlessly.
785
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,120
You can study this film
as a document about '50s Britain
786
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,280
and about a historical moment
in this country.
787
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560
You can also use it to study film.
788
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
It's about a particular point
where Ealing Studios,
789
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,360
who represented a particular
kind of cinema, is ending.
790
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,160
And understanding,
the arrival of new forms.
791
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,760
It's also, at the same time,
792
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,760
something which you don't have to
worry about any of that whatsoever.
793
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,000
It's also just a daft story
about this little fairy-tale cottage
794
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200
in a forest of London
795
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,720
where these monsters come
and try to scare an old lady
796
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,480
and then fail and she ends up
living happily ever after.
797
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,720
So, you can see any film you want to
in this and it will work.
798
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520
That's what is so genius about it.
799
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,840
It can be every film
to every person.
800
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,880
(SOMBRE MUSIC)
(BUS CLATTERS)
801
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,960
But I do hope you'll believe me.
802
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,960
It's true. I get it, the lolly,
but I wasn't really one of the gang.
803
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,360
I admit the keeper
was planned in my house,
804
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560
but it wasn't I who planned it.
805
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080
And I did not plan
or have anything to do
806
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,760
with the East Castle Street job.
Didn't ya, ma'am?
807
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,320
The central character
of Mrs Wilberforce,
808
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,440
who is trying to give the money back
to the police
809
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,400
and partly because
she spent a lot of time
810
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,720
talking about things
that haven't happened,
811
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,400
they are very kind,
they're indulgent.
812
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,800
But they simply don't believe her.
They say, "Well...
813
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,720
"just keep the money.
She's done her best to actually
814
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,200
be as righteous as possible
815
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,800
and uh...as law abiding,
816
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,160
and that is her reward.
817
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Her reward is to have all the money.
818
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
I think that's a fantastic,
819
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,320
fantastically subversive message.
820
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,920
Especially given the fact
that she is the one
821
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,720
who's actually...emblematic
822
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,720
of these old,
almost sort of past-it values
823
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,120
of implacability,
you know, the Victoriana.
824
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,200
And the great thing is that
825
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,120
it doesn't seem
to have affected her at all,
826
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,200
because now she is able
to be generous.
827
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,400
Now she's able to be benevolent
in a way that she was before,
828
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,560
but without the resources.
Now she has the resources.
829
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,520
Absolutely wonderful
and a strangely uplifting ending.
830
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Oh, very good, very good.
831
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Turned out nice, hasn't it.
Yes. It has.
832
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Perhaps more than any other Ealing,
833
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,320
it's lasted because
you don't see it maybe nostalgically,
834
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,280
you see it as its own thing.
835
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,840
I see it nostalgically too
836
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,120
because of King's Cross
and everything.Yes. Yes.
837
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,760
But at the same time,
838
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,360
it's an astonishing film
because it...
839
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,760
it works on
so many different levels.Yeah.
840
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,760
Not sure what Mackendrick really
was trying to do with the film,
841
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,280
but whatever it was,
he made a very good film.
842
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Oh, hey, hey, hey! Look!
Here, lady! Look!
843
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,960
(SWEET MUSIC)
844
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:11,840
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