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So back when you started, there
were some doubts, right?
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Were there?
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I hadn't heard.
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So that's news to you? I know.
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What would you like to say
to those people who think, well,
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I like what this guy's doing,
but...
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I've elected people
to represent me
who should be doing this job?
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Everything, All the criticism
that I've heard of
what I'm doing, it
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basically boils down to, well,
what about the system?
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Trust the system.
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The system wasn't
representing people. But I am.
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Daniel didn't really have much
to say about himself at first,
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so it was really on
the journalists
in Brazil to find out who he was
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and how he came to be that way.
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There wasn't anything about him
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growing up that would make
you think this guy's different.
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It was comics, video
games and football.
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He never talked to anybody about
it, any of his friends.
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But at some point he just
started,
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you know, avoiding
physical activities at school.
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He said he was bored with them.
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Definitely not one
of the cool kids in school.
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But he do these things when we
hung out
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and I thought it was hilarious
because he didn't even care.
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He's almost the archetype,
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the lost soul, the outsider
who suddenly discovers, Hey,
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I can have control over
my own life in a very
big, very powerful way.
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Superhero comics and movies
have given him the tools to say.
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I'm a superhero.
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...Murder rates plunged...
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New arrests this morning...
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A super man is born and he's Brazilian.
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Do they like you? I don't know.
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And now he's going to finish offall the punks in this country.
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Word also started to get out
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pretty quickly about the crime
numbers the city was posting.
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and we had posted double digit
declines
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that began to attract a lot of
attention.
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This wasn't Warden bringing balanceto the system.
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This was Warden decidingwho gets justice and who doesn't.
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There was no system.
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Just him.
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He's a global celebrity.
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And, you know, against
like all of the good.
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he's doing, the complaints?
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They're less than a footnote.
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If you want to understand
why he became so popular
so quickly,
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all you have to do
is look at his background.
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And they find out
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we've been living right
under our noses in Nova
Sao Paulo his whole life.
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But as you'd expect,
it's the story
about his birth that's unusual.
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His biological parents
are from the state
of Pernambuco,
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and we find out they both
passed away
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MARRIED COUPLE DIESAFTER MYSTERIOUS RADIATION EXPOSURE.
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from something that looks like
radiation poisoning.
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The father right before
his birth, mother just after
COUPLE EXPLORING CAVESDIES OF RADIATION POISONING.
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and when no family
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surfaces to take the baby,
he's placed into the
foster care system.
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A family adopts him,
and from what we can
tell, he grows up
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normally under the
circumstances.
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We saw him at the foster agency,
We saw him at the foster agency,
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three months old
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and it was immediatewe knew he was our son.
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He was the calmest babywe'd ever seen.
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I can't remember him ever getting sick, all through his childhood.
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So we were in college
by then, and one day
he just stopped going to class.
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So when I texted him,
he told me that he'd
been thinking
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a lot about the way
his mom was killed.
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I thought that was weird
because he never really
talked about her.
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But losing his mother,
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my wife...
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JOBERTO DIASFATHER OF DANIEL DIAS
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...was hard for him.
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It was hard for all of us.
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It's a fact of life in Brazil.
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Violence can touch anybody.
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And she was in the wrong placeat the wrong time.
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He told me that he needed some
time off and he wanted to,
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you know, figure out who he
really was.
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Daniel didn't show outward emotion.
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He wouldn't cry or ask about her.
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He was never a kid who told youexactly how he was feeling.
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But somehow, he'd always show you.
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He's discovering this strength,
this speed, the fact that
nothing seems to hurt it.
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We don't know when he first
noticed there was something
different about him,
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but we do know he threw himself
into figuring out what
to do with it.
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it almost perfectly fits
the contours of the classic
superhero origin story.
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Now, if you're somebody who
doesn't have these things,
that's a perfect fantasy.
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And that's why superhero stories
connect with so many of us.
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And now along comes
someone who gets to
live that story.
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So what is he thinking about?
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He's growing up reading comic
books like the rest of us.
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And what those have done
is given him a sort of
decoder key for reality.
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Oh, now I understand why I'm
like this.
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Now I understand why I'm
feeling this way.
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Now I understand what I should
do.
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And what is it that superheroes
do?
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They fight villains.
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We're live looking at Bolivar Street
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where according to authorities, one gunman has been holding
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passengers hostage on this bus thatwas headed to the state coast.
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It was only like four years ago.
BUS HIJACKING IN NOVA SPPOLICE STANDOFF NOW IN THIRD HOUR
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I had been an anchor on CNE
for three years.
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You start thinking you've
seen everything,
even the bus hijacking.
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So that wasn't a surprise.
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But what happened next? That
was.
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A bus hijacking
in Nova Sao Paulo, Brazil.
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Coming to a surprising
conclusion...
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...a man appears to have leapt
through the bus window
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at an inconceivable speed,
stopping the hijacker
before disappearing.
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And then the gunman
just goes like flying
off the bus.
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And this... I guess
I would call him a kid.
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This kid steps off,
like totally calm,
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BUS HIJACKINGSPECULATION GROWS ABOUT CIVILIAN HERO
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like he just got to his stop.
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An astonishing story out of Nova
Sao Paulo, Brazil.
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It was like a scene
out of a superhero movie.
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The attention of
the entire world
has turned to the Brazilian city
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and to the vigilante hero from
last...
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- My name is Daniel Dias.
- And I want people
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like that man who hurt and killinnocent people every day.
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I want them to be afraid.
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The vigilante named
Daniel Dias has left scientists
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in disbelief with a
slew of abilities
that seem more at home.
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In a comic... He can leap
hundreds of meters.
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He runs faster than the speed of
sound, and he's strong enough
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to bend solid metal.
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What we don't know
about him, how he exists.
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So the day after the bus.
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After he introduced himself
to the camera,
he walks in as if,
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you know, nothing happened,
like...
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Hey guys,
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how's it going?
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and, oh my God,
before he even gets to the door.
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I mean, for a shy kid, this
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moment is the moment that you
dream of.
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He was the hero.
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Everybody at school knew his
name and not just at school.
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Now is the biggest story in
the world is a comic
book come to life.
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He's a celebrity.
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Everybody wanted
to be the childhood friend.
DANIEL DIAS WAS MY BEST FRIEND,WE'RE NEIGHBORS FOR 4 YEARS.
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Everyone had this
one story about the one time
I ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS SPECIAL.
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they had talked and how
from just that they knew
how special he was.
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Definitely news to him
how many friends he had.
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We know because we've read
the same comics and seen the
same movies that he has.
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That celebrity is something
he must have anticipated
since it began.
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But there are different ways
of interacting with the public.
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There's the Bruce Wayne model
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where I'm a celebrity
in everyday life,
but nobody knows I'm Batman.
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Then there's the Peter Parker
model where I'm the totally
anonymous,
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mild mannered
high school student.
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Oh,
there's the Tony Stark model
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where it's like,
Hey, I am Iron Man.
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I think if you look at the world
today at digital technology,
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you think I'm going to spend
half my energy protecting
my secret identity,
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then order 50 sets of matching
long underwear
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and somebody is just going
to find out who I am anyway.
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I'll pass on the whole
Bruce Wayne thing.
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As a public figure, at least
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you go into a restaurant
and you get drinks on the house.
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You know, you get the perks.
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There's this big question
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What's someone with
Daniel's ability supposed
to do in the real world?
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If you want to make money,
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the first thing I think
is probably I should play
a professional sport.
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But as soon as there's
even a whisper of that,
the International Olympic
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Committee, the players
associations
in every sport, even in America,
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they make it known
that he's not welcome
to compete.
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So the next idea is from
these American producers
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who try to sell him on the
concept of a big live show,
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kind of a spectacle
where he can show
off his powers around the world.
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That just is like a circus act.
He passes.
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Some people were even trying to
attach themselves to him
from all Churches,
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the ones talking about
like prophecy chosen one
stuff that creeps him out.
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So if you never had a
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friend turn into an
object of worship,
I'll tell you right away.
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I had no idea what to tell him.
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I mean, he's trying really hard
to be the same person
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he was, but his life looks
nothing like it did before.
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You have people calling him a
Savior, God.
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What do you tell your friend?
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I was like...
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Enjoy!
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Take the free stuff.
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You know, what would you say?
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But I think his dad was really
the one reminding him,
you have a gift.
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You can do things.
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Look what's happening in the
country.
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You can tell he's
kind of searching for meaning.
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And he's thinking,
What's my way to go big?
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But in all these places, his
response is.
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I don't want to be part of that.
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So you have a superhero.
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The first thing I think is
he's got to fight crime, right?
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I think someone looked at him
and figure.
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Sooner or later,
this kid's going to be
busts and bad guys.
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He might as well learn
what's game's about.
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So they let him participate
in some police operations.
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You'd seen his face. He loved
it.
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Everybody loved it.
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What is a superhero?
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A superhero is someone
who sacrifices for us.
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Someone who can do the job
alone. So we don't have to.
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Now, you can have superhero
teams, but what you don't
have is superheroes
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on teams. So every time he gets
involved with an organization,
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there are these disagreements.
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He wants to do things his way.
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He feels like they're holding
him back. And he's right.
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They are. I mean, he's a
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he's an unstoppable force.
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But that works both ways.
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We had started talking
a lot when he was out
there trying out stuff.
I'M SO PROUD OF YOU.
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THANKS, I HAVE NO TIME TO BREATH!
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You know, every day would be a
text.
YOU DESERVE ALL YOUR SUCCESS!
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A meme, a video call.
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I like that he hadn't changed.
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If anyone had a right
to change, it was him.
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But he was still the same person
I knew growing up.
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You know, because he genuinely
believed
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that he could do the right thing
and that he would do
the right thing.
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He just didn't feel this
trust coming from
the people making the decisions.
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Look, I probably hadn't thought muchabout Daniel
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until that press conference he gave.
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I knew he was busy doinghis celebrity thing
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while I was in my third termin the State House.
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I traveled all over the country
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and I saw more pain and injusticethan I ever could've imagined.
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But as I saw the world,
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more and more, my thoughts came back here...
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to Nova SĂŁo Paulo,
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the suffering and violenceand broken lives
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And as I asked myself the questionthat has always guided my choices.
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Where can I do the most good?
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I discovered that my answer was“here.” At home.
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That speech was when
I first set up and realized
this guy wasn't
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just some celebrity out there
with a couple of models
in his arms.
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He was somebody you got to pay
attention to.
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The answer, I believe,
The answer, I believe,
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is to choose a place and transform itone life at a time.
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For me, that place is Nova SĂŁo Paulo.
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That was it.
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One minute he was a celebrity.
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The next he was like.
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Well, no one really knew what
it meant.
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Beginning tomorrow, my job will beto ensure that no one in this city
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has to live in fear, that no onehas to live without hope,
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and that everyone has reason
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to hope their life tomorrowwill look better than their life today.
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I won't be paid by the cityor your taxes,
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but it is my job,
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because every day, rain or shine,
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just like anyone else, I'll be waking up and trying
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to make this a better placefor all of us to live.
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Thank you.
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I had no idea what he was going
to do.
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You know, even as a kid,
he was always the person
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who would take his own decisions
without telling anybody.
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So this was pretty much like
him.
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He also announces
that he has a new
name now, Warden.
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which means guardian.
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The superhero name.
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There's always been
something about violence.
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Even defensive, necessary
violence
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that was recognized
as so foreign to civilized life.
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The life of the town,
the life of the family
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that our fighters
have always had
to assume a different persona.
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Whether it's war paint or
samurai masks
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or the codenames that our
soldiers use when they talk
to each other on the radio.
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When you're in that world
where life and death
are on the line,
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you need to become someone else.
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And sometimes that
someone is a truer you.
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Warden.
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Obviously, it's an English word.
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It's not a Portuguese word.
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Daniel had gotten to know some
people,
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entertainment industry people,
and they told him, you know,
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you might be working on a local
level, but
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like it or not, you're
an international figure.
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You need people all over the
world to hear one word
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and think of you.
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And he saw that, too.
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So Warden hits the scene.
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He's shaking hands. He's on
patrol.
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And he quickly discovers
something.
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He discovers that supervillains
the "raison d'etre"
to be a superhero.
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Well, we don't really get a lot
of those in a real world,
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what we do get in
the real world,
in the real criminal world,
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are a lot of ordinary people
with an underdeveloped
sense of empathy
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who are trying to find ways
to to cheat, to take advantage,
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and sometimes use
violence against
those they perceive as targets.
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Not an evil genius masterplan,
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frankly, for that stuff.
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There's not a whole
lot that superhero
can do that a normal can do.
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You know, you you learn the
neighborhood, you meet the
people you earn their trust.
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You develop good sources and
you use data.
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That's how you solve crimes.
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And the more crimes you solve,
the more crimes you stop.
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I think his idea was more,
I dare you try something
on my watch.
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You always have the
association of the superhero
and the city with his city.
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Batman has Gotham.
Superman has Metropolis.
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Green Lantern has Central City.
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Now, the comic book writers
didn't have to do that.
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It cost them just as much to
draw Superman in Metropolis
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as it did to draw them on the
moon.
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But there's always been this
sense that a superhero
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isn't some distant figure
watching us from Mount Olympus.
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They're part of our community.
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And Warden understood that.
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Well, this was before Warden had accessto police intelligence data
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which can tell you, if well used, where and when crimes occur.
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So what he was doingwas picking a huge swath of the city
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and telling all the residents,
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beware.
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He thought it was reassuringthat he was there,
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but to residents of those neighborhoods, sometimes it felt more like he was waiting
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- for them to slip up. You know?
- Like they were the criminals
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he was looking to protect the city from.
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I worried about him in the
beginning.
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You know, he was coming from a
place
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where if he was in your
life, it was as a celebrity.
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Like this professional lifesaver
that the least controversial
person imaginable.
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But how do you keep this up
when your job
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is to make judgments about who's
a good guy and who's a bad guy?
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If you're not naturally the kind
of person who craves attention
10 THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WARDEN.
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and suddenly millions of people
you've never met have
opinions about you
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being under that microscope
gets to you.
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I remember he told me about the
first time
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he stopped a robbery, I think
it was
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at a gas station,
and the guy had stolen
like 60 bucks.
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WARDEN STOPS ROBBERYAT A GAS STATION DOWNTOWN.
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So he tackled the robber
and the guy starts screaming,
howling,
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like making noises
that you've never heard
in your life.
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And at some point, he looks at
the guy and
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he sees that the guy is not well
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and he's not armed or anything.
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And he was like, Is this who
I'm fighting?
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So I think this was really
tough for him.
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The problem was this
was all legally very tenuous.
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He wasn't the type
of guy who wanted to read
you your rights.
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He hadn't been trained in
the police department's
use of force standards.
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He was a superhero
not some recruits
with a rulebook.
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In my office, we got signals
from certain judges that to them
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what one was doing was
surveillance on private
citizens without a warrant.
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It was an untenable situation.
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Warden had agreed to let
some TV producers
put a camera crew on him.
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That was how Brazilian Hero
started.
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These were the people
who thought
up his new international name.
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So of course, they didn't
keep it in Brazil.
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Right away they packaged it
as Our Hero and licensed it
all around the world.
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It's a massive hit.
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People call me a Warden.
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Ever since I was young,
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I've known I was a little
different.
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I don't think he loved having
cameras around all the time,
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but he figured at least
he could control the message.
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It also brought in a huge stream
of revenue for Warden.
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It just cements him
as this internationally
beloved figure.
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So he's coming in to millions of
people's homes every week,
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doing these heroic, basically
magical things in front
of the camera.
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Definitely, it wasn't an encouraging backdrop
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to open an investigation in.
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Davi Lopes is the state
representative
that falls on that grenade
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and tries to act on some
of the concerns
coming from the police.
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The "OAB" the Order of
Attorneys of Brazil and some
members of the community
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INVESTIGATION: LOPES TO LEADSTATE HOUSE: WARDEN WORKS FOR US.
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I decided that the way you make sure
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everyone's needs get addressed
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is to find smart people, people from who know the law.
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and you have them look at whatWarden's doing. What he's intending to do.
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You figure out how Warden can workwith the community,
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with the police, with the courts, and you decide on some rules.
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And if he's infringed on anybody's rights,
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we're able to assurethere are consequences for that.
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Consequences. So
this is really the first time
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that anyone's had to wrestle
with this question.
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Can you apply the law to a demi
god?
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Can you arrest him? How?
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What kind of laws do we need?
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If you can't just let him do
whatever he wants.
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Can you?
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The investigation.
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I think it really just changed
the way he thought about things.
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You know, he saw what he did
as a community service
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that, you know, everyone's
super hero.
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00:24:08,783 --> 00:24:11,552
And then these politicians
come along and treated him
as a punching bag.
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He saw it as a game to them.
LOOKS LIKE A JOKE, UNBELIEVABLE!
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So that was the first
time I actually saw
him get frustrated.
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Well, it turned out
investigating
him was very unpopular.
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Warden wasn't the guy handing
speeding tickets.
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00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:27,634
WARDEN STOPS CRIMEOVERPASS CLOSED AFTER PURSUIT
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People were seeing him
stopping awful,
violent people every single day.
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And more importantly,
they were seeing it on TV.
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You threatened to take
that away from people.
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And, you know, you playing with
fire.
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We forget the salience
of the feeling
of physical safety in politics.
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00:24:43,784 --> 00:24:46,554
You know, in Brazil,
people saw this reality.
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Tens of thousands of murders
and rapes every year.
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And no matter who you are,
your survival instincts kick in
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and you think my security first.
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Other people we'll talk about
later.
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And they said to
the politicians,
I don't want to hear anything
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00:25:02,636 --> 00:25:04,772
you have to say until you fix
this.
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00:25:06,007 --> 00:25:07,575
How can you keep me safe
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in my home, in my city?
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It was a top voting issue in
the country.
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And so everybody acted.
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00:25:16,984 --> 00:25:19,954
And if you're Brazilian
and you feel like the system is
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00:25:20,054 --> 00:25:24,258
sacrificing your safety
for some abstract
concept like due process,
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00:25:24,725 --> 00:25:27,762
you get that lizard brain
reaction,
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you're making me unsafe
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and you get fed up.
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As it turns out, public opinion
didn't matter one
way or the other.
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...leaked documents revealing
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00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:46,213
an illegal donation to StateRepresentative Davi Lopes's campaign.
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00:25:46,313 --> 00:25:50,117
So this scandal breaks
and it's just the perfect
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stew of ingredients that
get people actually
interested in local news.
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LOPES FACES CORRUPTION CHARGESOPPOSITION CALLS FOR RESIGNATION
LOPES FACES CORRUPTION CHARGESOPPOSITION CALLS FOR RESIGNATION
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He doesn't stand a chance.
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00:26:02,646 --> 00:26:05,648
Davi Lopes offered his resignation today,
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in the face of mounting calls to step downover the Illegal donations accusation.
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He acknowledged that
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the scandal had“become a huge distraction.”
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“The people of Nova São Paulodeserve better.”
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the statement read.
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00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:25,001
#BYELOPES
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I can take pressure...
427
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You know?
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I came a long way.
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00:26:30,257 --> 00:26:33,051
I can take threats.
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00:26:33,677 --> 00:26:36,763
But all the time,
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00:26:37,890 --> 00:26:39,683
from thousands of people?
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Then it becomes a choice between my job,
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00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:46,440
and my family's safety.
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00:26:47,074 --> 00:26:51,345
Everybody, millions of people
knew that he wasn't happy
with this investigation
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00:26:51,445 --> 00:26:56,350
and that anything that would
make Lopes' life harder
would be good for him.
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00:26:56,951 --> 00:27:00,688
So it just took, you know,
someone out there who
decided they knew
437
00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:01,956
how to help.
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00:27:02,323 --> 00:27:05,626
With Davi Lopes out of the
way and his supporters silent.
439
00:27:05,926 --> 00:27:08,496
The coast was really clear for
Warden to do things his way.
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00:27:08,629 --> 00:27:10,532
The first time I thought
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00:27:11,432 --> 00:27:13,868
maybe that feeling
you've got to watch your back,
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00:27:13,968 --> 00:27:17,671
that if you're not on his side,
something bad was
going to happen.
443
00:27:19,406 --> 00:27:21,275
That's what he wants.
444
00:27:21,408 --> 00:27:24,078
Maybe Warden is someone
you've got to watch out for.
445
00:27:28,449 --> 00:27:32,219
What is the superhero way?
446
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:33,954
To fight crime.
447
00:27:34,388 --> 00:27:36,824
And part of it's about optics,
right?
448
00:27:36,924 --> 00:27:40,494
The spectacle. Every arrest
showcases
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00:27:40,595 --> 00:27:44,031
that you're faster,
stronger, tougher than
the bad guys.
450
00:27:44,131 --> 00:27:46,433
You maybe humiliate them.
451
00:27:47,468 --> 00:27:50,505
Part of the superheroes
job is to be a moral force.
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You're embodying in one person
the values of an entire
community,
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00:27:55,610 --> 00:28:00,714
and you're delivering the
smackdown that community wishes
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it could give to anyone or
anything that threatens it.
455
00:28:04,985 --> 00:28:09,023
You're saying our side, the side
of order and righteous violence
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beats your side, the
side of disorder
and unrighteous violence.
457
00:28:12,661 --> 00:28:17,765
But what the superhero way
really means is no rules.
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00:28:17,865 --> 00:28:21,135
You have the heroes sense of
morality and you trust it.
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00:28:21,735 --> 00:28:25,706
But Warden isn't,
you know, filing an
arrest report.
460
00:28:25,806 --> 00:28:26,974
And he's certainly not going
461
00:28:27,074 --> 00:28:29,476
to show up in court
to testify at the trial.
462
00:28:47,936 --> 00:28:50,230
Is everyone good? Nobody hurt?
463
00:28:51,899 --> 00:28:56,337
I think people celebrated Warden
because they made
that connection.
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00:28:57,505 --> 00:29:00,040
They realized he is us.
465
00:29:00,941 --> 00:29:05,580
This is what we would do
if we had the power.
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00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,350
The question is,
where does that fit into
the legal system?
467
00:29:09,718 --> 00:29:13,588
So you can see how things
might be on a collision course.
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00:29:16,790 --> 00:29:18,859
I don't know how to explain it.
469
00:29:18,959 --> 00:29:21,929
It felt like he was himself
again.
470
00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:25,099
You know, everybody had this
idea of who he should be
471
00:29:25,199 --> 00:29:29,203
or what he should do
or wanted something from him.
472
00:29:29,303 --> 00:29:33,207
And suddenly he felt like
he could define himself.
473
00:29:33,608 --> 00:29:35,610
And he came alive.
474
00:29:36,578 --> 00:29:38,212
It was an amazing combination
475
00:29:38,312 --> 00:29:41,482
of the person I grew up with
and the man I was
getting to know.
476
00:29:43,484 --> 00:29:44,985
It had to be a secret, though.
477
00:29:45,085 --> 00:29:47,622
Obviously, he wanted to protect
me.
478
00:29:57,298 --> 00:29:59,967
You sense this new
confidence watching him.
479
00:30:00,401 --> 00:30:03,505
You know, the sex offender
gets a hot shot to his crotch,
480
00:30:03,605 --> 00:30:06,574
the dope fiend gets hauled in
with drugs all around him.
481
00:30:07,341 --> 00:30:09,076
He was showing his sense of
humor.
482
00:30:09,176 --> 00:30:11,011
Let the punishment fit the
crime.
483
00:30:11,111 --> 00:30:13,914
So as you'd expect, everybody on
the force gave him a wide lane.
484
00:30:14,448 --> 00:30:16,751
On the one hand that
it was his popularity,
485
00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:20,187
you knew you'd be shouted down
even before you opened
your mouth.
486
00:30:20,988 --> 00:30:23,290
But there was also
this intimidation factor.
487
00:30:23,625 --> 00:30:27,762
Every time he flexed his
muscles and ran someone
down, he was reminding you,
488
00:30:27,861 --> 00:30:30,197
I'm stronger than you.
I'm faster than you.
489
00:30:30,464 --> 00:30:32,066
Essentially, I'm unstoppable.
490
00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:34,034
And he didn't have to open his
mouth.
491
00:30:34,134 --> 00:30:36,203
Warden never felt like the best
492
00:30:36,303 --> 00:30:39,473
use of his time was chasing
drug pushers
or any random street criminals.
493
00:30:39,774 --> 00:30:42,677
Here in Brazil, we say that's
like trying to dry ice.
494
00:30:42,777 --> 00:30:44,579
Even when he tries going
495
00:30:44,679 --> 00:30:47,147
after organized crime,
he's hitting the corner
dealers, the triggerman,
496
00:30:47,549 --> 00:30:49,950
those street level guys go down,
you've got another five
497
00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:51,720
replacing them in the next day.
498
00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:54,488
The fundamental problem stays.
499
00:30:54,823 --> 00:30:58,959
It's clear Warden is starting
to think if this is the best
use of his abilities.
500
00:30:59,059 --> 00:31:03,364
But this time there are
people around Warden who
have very strong ideas
501
00:31:03,464 --> 00:31:07,301
about what problems
need to be solved
and they have his attention.
502
00:31:08,837 --> 00:31:10,371
Warden had these
503
00:31:10,471 --> 00:31:13,808
relationships with the Nova
Sao Paulo business community.
504
00:31:13,907 --> 00:31:17,812
The idea was since Warden
didn't want to get paid
by the government,
505
00:31:18,078 --> 00:31:21,949
they make donations to support
his new Justice Initiative
operation.
506
00:31:22,049 --> 00:31:25,152
There were a few examples
where a company would bring him
507
00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:27,388
in to give a lecture to their
employees.
508
00:31:28,972 --> 00:31:33,142
Earlier, in the lobby, someone was askingme what it was like to have superpowers.
509
00:31:33,143 --> 00:31:36,188
Which is a question I get a lot, as you can imagine.
510
00:31:37,648 --> 00:31:41,109
And I told him, “You work here.
511
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:45,155
To me, coding in Python is a superpower.”
512
00:31:46,281 --> 00:31:48,408
And I'm serious.
513
00:31:49,076 --> 00:31:52,495
The world is full of peoplewith superpowers
514
00:31:52,496 --> 00:31:55,832
and we all have to answerthe same question:
515
00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,794
How can I use my power
516
00:31:59,795 --> 00:32:02,172
to give other people back their power?
to give other people back their power?
517
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,178
I've spent the past yearserving this city.
518
00:32:08,929 --> 00:32:11,390
I've never hidden who I wasor what I wanted.
519
00:32:12,099 --> 00:32:14,475
I've also met many of you,
520
00:32:14,476 --> 00:32:16,603
Lots of you have the same questionI've been asking:
521
00:32:17,521 --> 00:32:20,815
How can we go on arrestingthe bad people,
522
00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:23,401
putting the peoplewho want to harm you behind bars,
523
00:32:23,402 --> 00:32:25,362
and yet nothing changes?
524
00:32:26,488 --> 00:32:30,367
The problem runs deeperthan a few criminals.
525
00:32:31,034 --> 00:32:33,495
The problem is a systemthat's been corrupted.
526
00:32:34,288 --> 00:32:38,207
It's a system of entrenched powerthat makes this city a paradise
527
00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:43,964
for a few wealthy people like me, and makes it a hell for everyone else.
528
00:32:44,673 --> 00:32:47,383
We didn't create this system,
529
00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:49,093
but we've been living in it.
530
00:32:49,094 --> 00:32:51,680
And I'm going to help you break it.
531
00:32:56,185 --> 00:32:58,269
It was an offer to the city.
532
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:02,106
- He'd sweep away the obstacles.
- He'd cut the red tape.
- He'd sweep away the obstacles.
- He'd cut the red tape.
533
00:33:02,107 --> 00:33:04,109
- He'd be the bulldozer.
- All on behalf of the people.
534
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:06,527
But it didn't take long fora lot of people to decide they liked it.
535
00:33:06,528 --> 00:33:08,654
New arrests, this morning...
536
00:33:08,655 --> 00:33:10,907
...A dramatic raid happened today...
537
00:33:10,908 --> 00:33:13,242
...Was taken into custody for the third...
538
00:33:13,243 --> 00:33:16,747
...Facing accusations that he was runninga human trafficking ring...
539
00:33:16,831 --> 00:33:20,300
All of a sudden,
Warden was making these
huge arrests.
540
00:33:20,535 --> 00:33:24,939
Was white collar, financial
crime, criminal leaders,
even politicians.
541
00:33:25,038 --> 00:33:28,275
All the people that you thought
were untouchable. Falling
like dominoes.
542
00:33:28,475 --> 00:33:33,180
They would show up at the
courthouse, essentially
gift wrapped with evidence
543
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,819
for the prosecutors to make
their cases and cameras to
get the public exciting.
544
00:33:38,151 --> 00:33:40,788
None of the evidence
would hold up in court
545
00:33:40,889 --> 00:33:45,593
because it was collected
extrajudicially
and violated due process
546
00:33:46,026 --> 00:33:48,563
that only made Warden more
popular.
547
00:33:48,663 --> 00:33:50,932
The defense lawyers weren't
happy.
548
00:33:51,533 --> 00:33:54,468
The civil liberties
groups cried bloody murder. But
549
00:33:54,569 --> 00:33:58,840
when the courts had to let
these criminal big shots
go free on technicalities
550
00:33:59,841 --> 00:34:02,242
that made Warden the hero
551
00:34:02,342 --> 00:34:04,779
and the legal system the
villain.
552
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,283
He was saying, You've
all complained
about this for years now.
553
00:34:09,817 --> 00:34:12,820
Everybody stand back
whilst I do something about it.
554
00:34:19,661 --> 00:34:21,295
It's an iron law
555
00:34:21,395 --> 00:34:23,598
in all times, in all places.
556
00:34:24,999 --> 00:34:27,367
It's extremely unwise
557
00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:32,006
to be rich and not befriend
the authorities.
558
00:34:32,105 --> 00:34:34,909
Now, whenever you have one of
these anti-corruption campaigns
559
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:39,479
led by one person, one savior
who's all about cracking down,
560
00:34:39,581 --> 00:34:40,949
all about putting that villain
561
00:34:41,049 --> 00:34:44,184
or handful of villains on stage
for the public to hate
562
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,187
without passing laws
563
00:34:47,555 --> 00:34:51,993
that change the incentives
that create the corruption
in the first place.
564
00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:55,730
What you have is not
an anti-corruption campaign.
565
00:34:56,263 --> 00:35:00,702
What you have is
a pro your friends
corruption campaign.
566
00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:05,138
Write it down.
Take it to the bank.
567
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:08,241
Every time.
568
00:35:08,576 --> 00:35:10,277
You talk to him by then
569
00:35:10,377 --> 00:35:14,147
And it was millions of ideas
all the time,
like green speedways,
570
00:35:14,247 --> 00:35:17,384
bust these criminals disaster
response system.
571
00:35:17,484 --> 00:35:19,988
He said his eyes
were opening to the world.
572
00:35:20,387 --> 00:35:23,156
It was good to be
with someone that cared so much.
573
00:35:23,558 --> 00:35:27,662
You know, he really thought
he really believed that he
could change the world.
574
00:35:29,396 --> 00:35:32,767
And the more his plans grew,
the more the organization grew.
575
00:35:36,838 --> 00:35:39,974
He had the lawyers
had the digital forensic team.
576
00:35:40,074 --> 00:35:42,644
He had the liaison
to handle business
with the city.
577
00:35:42,744 --> 00:35:46,514
He had the PR guy, all of them
recommendation from his
business friends,
578
00:35:46,614 --> 00:35:48,016
for what it's worth.
579
00:35:48,116 --> 00:35:51,184
The smart businesses
started to make contributions
580
00:35:51,284 --> 00:35:53,755
to his justice initiative
straight away.
JUSTICE INITIATIVEOF NOVA SAO PAULO
581
00:35:53,988 --> 00:35:57,058
And there's a subtext to those
payments.
582
00:35:57,157 --> 00:35:58,392
It's not settle.
583
00:35:58,492 --> 00:36:01,129
It's maybe don't look so
closely at me.
584
00:36:15,308 --> 00:36:17,679
The buildings collapsed right
at sunrise.
585
00:36:18,311 --> 00:36:20,347
I'd say that was the next phase.
586
00:36:20,138 --> 00:36:23,308
We're seeing a shockingscene of destruction.
587
00:36:23,725 --> 00:36:26,227
We've been told that policeand first-responders
588
00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,856
are on their way to the scene, but already neighbors are reporting...
589
00:36:28,956 --> 00:36:31,759
You know it was just this
590
00:36:31,859 --> 00:36:35,730
big empty eye sore that the
owners wanted to replace
591
00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:38,166
with this city of tomorrow.
592
00:36:38,566 --> 00:36:41,869
And the City has just tied them
up in court for years.
593
00:36:42,235 --> 00:36:44,772
citing historical preservation
of the site.
594
00:36:44,872 --> 00:36:47,575
And it turns out that the
owners had
595
00:36:47,675 --> 00:36:50,578
become big donors
to Warden's Justice Initiative.
596
00:36:50,678 --> 00:36:54,115
So when the buildings come down,
it looks like pretty clear
597
00:36:54,481 --> 00:36:57,819
that there's one group
that has a financial
stake in this
598
00:36:58,251 --> 00:37:00,420
and one person who
could have done it for them.
599
00:37:01,789 --> 00:37:03,423
You know, you have this
600
00:37:03,524 --> 00:37:07,327
unauthorized demolition,
this explosion in a
residential area.
601
00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:10,998
You're going around the courts,
around the whole legal process.
RESIDENSTS SUFFER WITH THE DUST CLOUD.
602
00:37:11,398 --> 00:37:12,800
You have people in the
neighborhood
603
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,937
getting sick from the chemicals
this puts into the air.
604
00:37:16,704 --> 00:37:21,642
Most of us look to the State
Attorney General, Romeu Filho.
605
00:37:21,743 --> 00:37:24,377
Everyone's waiting to see what
he does
ROMEUS THOMAS FILHO'S SILENCEIS CONCERNING.
606
00:37:26,514 --> 00:37:28,082
and he does nothing.
607
00:37:27,998 --> 00:37:31,626
The authorities are decliningto file any charges
608
00:37:31,627 --> 00:37:34,713
in connection with the destructionof the historic complex last month.
609
00:37:35,056 --> 00:37:38,492
So if you're keeping score, the
people
610
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:42,362
who go around the law:
Warden and the owners.
611
00:37:43,296 --> 00:37:45,265
No charges against them.
612
00:37:45,365 --> 00:37:50,605
The people who call out the
people who break the law,
they get investigated.
613
00:37:51,205 --> 00:37:53,808
For me, that was "what the
fuck" moment.
614
00:37:54,942 --> 00:37:56,677
I think anyone who reviewed the
suits
615
00:37:56,778 --> 00:38:00,081
that the city filed
to prevent the demolition
as I had.
616
00:38:00,948 --> 00:38:04,018
Found them to be
in bad faith and without merit.
617
00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:08,890
More than that, it's
important to remember that
our whole legal system exists
618
00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:12,425
as a channel for the people's
sense of justice and fairness.
619
00:38:12,727 --> 00:38:16,197
And when courts have thwarten
what people understand
to be justice,
620
00:38:16,664 --> 00:38:20,168
when they're undermining
the public's confidence
that the system works,
621
00:38:21,068 --> 00:38:23,004
then you have a problem.
622
00:38:24,471 --> 00:38:27,181
This is a man who'd always beenabsolutely by-the-book.
623
00:38:27,182 --> 00:38:28,266
Who had no problem
624
00:38:28,267 --> 00:38:32,311
going after the politicians, the big builders, everyone who was...
625
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:33,813
supposed to be off-limits.
626
00:38:33,814 --> 00:38:36,191
And you'd talk to people who knew him.
627
00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:40,528
They had no ideawhere this was coming from.
628
00:38:40,529 --> 00:38:43,782
Did Warden have something on him?
629
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,202
But they all said, even behind closed doors,
630
00:38:48,203 --> 00:38:51,915
Romeu Filho claims to believe inwhat he's doing. Nobody's forcing him,
631
00:38:52,875 --> 00:38:56,003
which somehow makes it more disturbing.
632
00:38:56,211 --> 00:39:01,592
At least you can understand someonewho's got a gun to his head. Right?
At least you can understand someonewho's got a gun to his head. Right?
633
00:39:02,143 --> 00:39:04,178
Whatis the justice system for?
634
00:39:04,278 --> 00:39:07,915
If you can imagine the tribe
of early humans coming back
from a mammoth hunts.
635
00:39:08,316 --> 00:39:11,384
Yeah, they discover
that somebody has committed
a murder.
636
00:39:12,485 --> 00:39:17,258
The entire society is rattled
in its anger and vendettas
and distrust,
637
00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:20,161
and you need domestic
order to be restored.
638
00:39:21,095 --> 00:39:25,032
That's what the job of the law
is, to be our collective
retribution.
639
00:39:26,067 --> 00:39:30,104
When you look at our system
today, it's gotten so
complex and so far removed
640
00:39:30,204 --> 00:39:35,243
from that basic, original
purpose that bad actors
know they can exploit it.
641
00:39:35,877 --> 00:39:38,279
The demolition case.
642
00:39:38,411 --> 00:39:41,315
They were just a small example,
and Warden helped people
643
00:39:41,414 --> 00:39:44,819
see how they were standing
in the way of the
public interest.
644
00:39:45,219 --> 00:39:47,588
And that paved all the work we
did.
645
00:39:47,688 --> 00:39:49,422
And I think that's a great
thing.
646
00:39:49,523 --> 00:39:52,260
And that was essentially
the way things were going to go.
647
00:39:52,459 --> 00:39:54,562
Warden would play
the wrecking ball,
WARDEN AND THE BIG BUILDERS
648
00:39:54,662 --> 00:39:58,332
Romeu Filho would play
the legal bodyguard,
and their friends would play by
649
00:39:58,431 --> 00:40:00,067
their own rules.
650
00:40:00,167 --> 00:40:02,603
Now, if you're a reasonable
651
00:40:02,703 --> 00:40:07,375
person or a reasonable business,
you would look at that
situation and say,
652
00:40:08,342 --> 00:40:10,443
I want to be Warden's friend.
653
00:40:11,045 --> 00:40:13,948
You started seeing changes
right away.
654
00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:17,652
There's a wave of construction.
The streets were cleaner.
655
00:40:17,752 --> 00:40:20,288
You're talking to people.
They are telling you
they feel safer.
656
00:40:20,379 --> 00:40:24,215
New figures from the state policerepresentatives out this morning
657
00:40:24,216 --> 00:40:26,384
showing a steep decline
658
00:40:26,385 --> 00:40:29,679
in Nova SĂŁo Paulo'smurder rate this quarter.
659
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,182
The State Government attributing thatto improved economic conditions
660
00:40:33,183 --> 00:40:35,936
and “innovative crime prevention tactics.”
661
00:40:36,037 --> 00:40:37,805
It's all a powerful statement.
662
00:40:37,905 --> 00:40:41,342
You know, you have one person
standing
663
00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:46,614
against all the old,
creaky bureaucracy
and red tape and he's winning.
664
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,884
So people pay attention to that.
665
00:41:03,297 --> 00:41:05,232
Thank you and thanks, guys.
666
00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:09,170
In a very short term,
we've had some huge changes
in Sao Paulo.
667
00:41:09,603 --> 00:41:13,240
We've seen some landmark
arrests, which I think
perhaps the very best
668
00:41:13,341 --> 00:41:17,078
investigators in your country
will be just a little
bit jealous of you.
669
00:41:17,511 --> 00:41:21,515
Yeah. You know, hopefully most
of us don't have enemies.
670
00:41:21,615 --> 00:41:23,818
And I know I didn't when I was
younger.
671
00:41:23,918 --> 00:41:27,888
But now when you start
doing things
that impact a lot of people,
672
00:41:28,289 --> 00:41:30,825
the enemies you make tell you a
lot about who you are.
673
00:41:30,958 --> 00:41:35,763
So back when you started,
there were some doubts, right?
674
00:41:35,863 --> 00:41:39,100
Were there? I hadn't heard.
Okay.
675
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,035
So that's news to you. I know.
676
00:41:41,135 --> 00:41:44,238
At this point you'd hear
things unofficially.
677
00:41:44,538 --> 00:41:49,543
Police chief gets advice to drop
an investigation, journalist
gets a story
678
00:41:49,643 --> 00:41:53,848
killed, a prosecutor gets
reassigned, but nothing illegal.
679
00:41:54,782 --> 00:41:59,453
And nobody can come forward
because they will know
that somewhere
680
00:41:59,553 --> 00:42:03,624
along the chain of things
that are there to stop bad
things from happening.
681
00:42:03,724 --> 00:42:09,463
There's going to be someone
who's afraid, corrupt or just
plain not on their side.
682
00:42:09,988 --> 00:42:12,157
We invented this system.
683
00:42:12,407 --> 00:42:15,159
We did itso some lonely old lady gets to have a say
684
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,080
when a millionaire wants to decidewhat happens to her neighborhood.
685
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:19,830
I'm the first to admit
686
00:42:19,831 --> 00:42:23,167
that the dialogue withe average citizencould very much piss you off,
687
00:42:23,168 --> 00:42:26,337
but this wasn't Wardenbringing balance to the system.
688
00:42:26,338 --> 00:42:29,883
This was Warden decidingwho gets justice and who doesn't.
689
00:42:30,092 --> 00:42:31,968
And who has to follow the rulesand who doesn't.
690
00:42:31,969 --> 00:42:33,595
There was no system.
691
00:42:34,972 --> 00:42:36,056
Just him.
692
00:42:38,267 --> 00:42:39,893
We had seen it before.
693
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:43,647
We called them kings.
694
00:42:45,499 --> 00:42:48,769
Everything. All the criticism
that I've heard of
what I'm doing, it
695
00:42:48,869 --> 00:42:52,106
basically boils down to, well,
what about the system?
696
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,275
Trust the system.
697
00:42:54,375 --> 00:42:57,678
The system wasn't
representing people. What I am.
698
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,488
Now, at this point,
699
00:43:07,588 --> 00:43:10,024
if I'm Warden, I'm feeling
pretty good.
700
00:43:10,124 --> 00:43:12,460
I got these circles
of protection around me.
701
00:43:12,927 --> 00:43:17,031
So there's the real
one, which is the
politicians and the businessmen
702
00:43:17,131 --> 00:43:18,432
and the courts and the press
people
703
00:43:18,533 --> 00:43:20,434
who are all letting Warden
make his own rules.
704
00:43:20,968 --> 00:43:26,307
Then there's the people
who've decided, I'm for
them, I'm their champion,
NATIONAL HERO
705
00:43:26,407 --> 00:43:29,176
and if I'm doing something
dicey, they don't even
want to hear about it.
706
00:43:29,276 --> 00:43:32,413
The feeling that Warden stoked
in us.
707
00:43:33,114 --> 00:43:36,317
It was ancient. It's
been with humans since
the beginning.
708
00:43:36,750 --> 00:43:40,589
He was the demigod
who held the world
on his shoulders.
709
00:43:40,888 --> 00:43:45,226
He was the folk hero
who went around the law
to deliver justice
710
00:43:45,326 --> 00:43:48,295
and stick his thumb
in the eyes of the
powerful people.
711
00:43:49,063 --> 00:43:52,166
Someone like that,
even when they're
fundamentally different from us.
712
00:43:52,633 --> 00:43:55,269
There's this feeling that he is
us.
713
00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:58,005
His struggles are our
714
00:43:58,105 --> 00:44:01,242
struggles and his enemies are
our enemies.
715
00:44:01,675 --> 00:44:06,480
You know, every day it would be
the rescues, the show,
the handshake,
716
00:44:06,581 --> 00:44:11,418
the strategy session next week,
next quarter, next targeted,
next project.
I'LL SEE YOU TODAY, THEN?
717
00:44:09,191 --> 00:44:12,319
TODAY IS HARD FOR ME... I'M SWAMPED.MY BAD...
718
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,388
It's hard to compete with that.
719
00:44:15,022 --> 00:44:16,857
You know, people felt connected
to him.
720
00:44:16,957 --> 00:44:20,194
So I'm going into this
with my eyes wide opened.
721
00:44:20,461 --> 00:44:24,331
And I decided to ask him
if we could be officially
out dating.
722
00:44:25,966 --> 00:44:30,137
And next day, his team
calls me into his office.
723
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,645
And there's everyone lawyers,
consultants, managers.
724
00:44:37,945 --> 00:44:41,882
And they all agreed that
being out dating would be
the worst thing possible.
725
00:44:43,518 --> 00:44:45,853
For me, obviously
726
00:44:45,769 --> 00:44:49,647
As a father, is there anything moreyou wish you could've done for him?
727
00:44:49,648 --> 00:44:53,442
Anything to prepare himfor the life he was entering into?
728
00:44:53,443 --> 00:44:56,487
I don't know anythingabout that kind of life.
729
00:44:56,488 --> 00:44:58,365
Actually, I don't think anybody does,
730
00:44:59,116 --> 00:45:00,325
except him.
except him.
731
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,286
There's one thing I regret.
732
00:45:03,287 --> 00:45:07,416
It's not about teaching himto be a super, whatever.
733
00:45:09,042 --> 00:45:10,752
It's about being a man.
734
00:45:11,712 --> 00:45:14,840
The way I tried to be strongafter his mother died.
735
00:45:15,257 --> 00:45:17,384
And the way I was, after that.
736
00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:20,596
Alone, no relationships.
737
00:45:22,139 --> 00:45:24,432
I worry it taught him
738
00:45:24,433 --> 00:45:27,269
that love is...
739
00:45:28,103 --> 00:45:30,981
a kind of weakness.
740
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,469
the more the time passed,
the bigger he got and the more
741
00:45:35,570 --> 00:45:42,276
the distance between
the public figure
and the man would disappear.
742
00:45:42,876 --> 00:45:48,583
There's a sense in which
a superhero is just
another kind of celebrity,
743
00:45:49,283 --> 00:45:53,854
and what celebrities
and powerful people are
really good at is creating
744
00:45:53,954 --> 00:45:58,792
these hermetically
sealed universes
where everyone loves you.
745
00:45:59,093 --> 00:46:01,862
And all the news is good news.
746
00:46:01,962 --> 00:46:05,099
In Warden's case,
you take that celebrity bubble
747
00:46:05,399 --> 00:46:07,868
and you add years of reading
about superheroes
748
00:46:08,402 --> 00:46:12,006
and their promises of power
and hyper competency.
749
00:46:12,273 --> 00:46:14,942
And you've got someone whose
life hasn't
750
00:46:15,042 --> 00:46:18,212
exactly been primed
for committed relationships.
751
00:46:18,445 --> 00:46:20,682
So how come there's only one of
you?
752
00:46:20,781 --> 00:46:24,351
I would have thought
if we'd looked into your
story of origin.
753
00:46:24,619 --> 00:46:27,656
We'd been cranking out
at least a dozen more
of you superheroes.
754
00:46:28,355 --> 00:46:32,259
Yeah, well, how do you know
you wouldn't get
a super villain?
755
00:46:48,075 --> 00:46:51,078
The show's ratings were still
strong and getting stronger.
756
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,881
People want to know everything
about him.
757
00:46:54,516 --> 00:46:57,985
You have gossip sites
paying thousands of dollars
758
00:46:58,085 --> 00:47:02,557
for any whiff of information
about who might be involved
with Warden
759
00:47:03,057 --> 00:47:07,928
who went to lunch with
him, who was seen leaving
his apartment last night.
WHO IS THE GIRL SEEN WITH WARDEN?
760
00:47:08,295 --> 00:47:10,164
But it was like a mirage.
761
00:47:10,264 --> 00:47:13,867
Any time you go too close to
one of these stories,
it would disappear.
762
00:47:15,502 --> 00:47:18,773
I never told anyone about us.
763
00:47:18,872 --> 00:47:21,710
He called it "the plan",
and I was all in on it.
764
00:47:22,009 --> 00:47:24,178
It was our future.
IT'S BEEN HARD...
765
00:47:24,278 --> 00:47:28,717
But most of the time, I
just felt like he was gone
and he was actually gone.
YOU'RE NEVER HERE!
766
00:47:27,264 --> 00:47:31,393
I PROMISE YOU THINGS WILL BE BETTER.
767
00:47:28,817 --> 00:47:31,318
Like he would disappear for
days.
768
00:47:31,418 --> 00:47:35,356
And when he'd show it up again,
he'd apologize and apologize.
769
00:47:35,456 --> 00:47:39,126
Say how important
everything he was doing was.
770
00:47:39,226 --> 00:47:43,230
Be romantic for a day,
then get back to normal
and then disappear again.
771
00:47:43,565 --> 00:47:47,968
There's a very clear
difference and everybody
figure it out pretty quickly.
772
00:47:48,369 --> 00:47:51,171
Investigating Warden's
personal life is okay.
773
00:47:51,305 --> 00:47:53,608
He kind of dances with you.
He likes the mystery
774
00:47:53,907 --> 00:47:57,144
investigating what was going on
in Warden's professional life.
I'D KILL FOR WARDEN.
I'D KILL FOR WARDEN.
775
00:47:57,512 --> 00:48:01,215
Some of the things the
city was doing,
that's when you get the threats.
776
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:04,686
How do you silence
someone in the 21st century?
777
00:48:05,986 --> 00:48:08,723
It doesn't look like the old
way.
778
00:48:09,156 --> 00:48:13,394
As humans, we hunt for patterns,
we're told, all the time.
779
00:48:13,494 --> 00:48:15,563
History repeats itself, right?
780
00:48:15,663 --> 00:48:18,666
So we're very good at spotting
781
00:48:18,767 --> 00:48:22,202
the last threat to a free
society.
782
00:48:22,771 --> 00:48:24,938
Book burnings. Canceled
elections.
783
00:48:25,038 --> 00:48:27,809
Thugs marching in the
street. No way. You're not
going to slip that by us.
784
00:48:28,676 --> 00:48:31,945
But then we pour all our energy
into convincing people
785
00:48:32,279 --> 00:48:35,850
that what we're seeing now
is just like the last thing.
786
00:48:36,751 --> 00:48:41,955
Problem is when people
realize, no, it's
not just like the last thing
787
00:48:43,323 --> 00:48:45,426
they decide. It's
not worth worrying about.
788
00:48:45,527 --> 00:48:50,297
So what we're not good at
is spotting the next threat.
789
00:48:51,265 --> 00:48:54,401
These days, you don't need thugs
going around knocking
on people's doors.
790
00:48:55,035 --> 00:48:56,970
That's inefficient. It's ugly.
791
00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:58,807
You don't need to say
a word. You're thugs.
792
00:48:58,907 --> 00:49:03,177
They don't even have to be your
thugs.
793
00:49:03,277 --> 00:49:05,379
And I'll ask you one more
question.
794
00:49:05,479 --> 00:49:07,849
Do you think about
your limitations sometimes?
795
00:49:08,282 --> 00:49:11,151
Like there's something
you just can accomplish
no matter how
796
00:49:11,251 --> 00:49:13,688
strong or fast you are?
797
00:49:13,788 --> 00:49:15,355
No.
798
00:49:15,456 --> 00:49:18,560
No? No. Because I'm
799
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:23,363
the least important part
of what's happening
in Nova Sao Paulo.
800
00:49:23,464 --> 00:49:26,366
It's not about what I've done.
801
00:49:26,467 --> 00:49:29,002
Everything I've accomplished
will vanish overnight.
802
00:49:29,102 --> 00:49:33,273
Without this movement,
these thousands of people,
803
00:49:33,741 --> 00:49:37,377
good people who know
the difference
between right and wrong
804
00:49:37,978 --> 00:49:40,682
and want to fight hard to make
this
805
00:49:40,782 --> 00:49:44,586
a better place for all of us to
live.
806
00:49:44,686 --> 00:49:48,857
In a way, people embraced Warden
for the same reason
they embraced
807
00:49:48,957 --> 00:49:52,760
superheroes during
other periods of
high social anxiety. In the U.S,
808
00:49:52,993 --> 00:49:55,730
you had superheroes going to war
for America in the 1940s,
809
00:49:55,930 --> 00:49:58,900
and then they were protecting us
from nuclear weapons
during the Cold War.
810
00:49:58,999 --> 00:50:00,501
And then we saw them deployed
811
00:50:00,602 --> 00:50:03,103
as guardians looking out for us
after September the 11th.
812
00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:07,909
Now, I think during periods of
declining trust in institutions
813
00:50:08,108 --> 00:50:12,145
and a sort of societal unwinding
like what was happening
in Brazil,
814
00:50:12,647 --> 00:50:17,351
Warden looked to a lot of people
like the solution.
815
00:50:17,392 --> 00:50:21,395
You know, some of these scholar typesraised important questions.
816
00:50:21,396 --> 00:50:24,106
but their political views
817
00:50:24,107 --> 00:50:27,777
were so far removed fromeverything Warden was doing,
818
00:50:27,778 --> 00:50:31,030
and everything people were hearing, that the message was getting lost.
819
00:50:31,031 --> 00:50:34,575
Warden getting shout-outs from thechiefs-of-state, and celebrities,
820
00:50:34,576 --> 00:50:36,577
his audience only got bigger.
821
00:50:36,578 --> 00:50:39,248
Everyone who mattered was for him.
822
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,126
Everyone who bothered to speak upwas for him.
823
00:50:43,669 --> 00:50:46,462
Getting rid ofthe Secretary of Public Security,
824
00:50:46,463 --> 00:50:50,759
I think, was part of the planto keep it that way.
825
00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:56,356
It's important to understand
how police works in Brazil,
there's two types.
826
00:50:57,257 --> 00:50:59,426
The military police who are
responsible
827
00:50:59,527 --> 00:51:03,998
for patrolling the streets,
enforcing laws, and
the civil police
828
00:51:04,097 --> 00:51:07,635
who are mostly responsible
for investigating crime.
829
00:51:07,902 --> 00:51:10,872
One might catch a criminal in
the act
830
00:51:11,238 --> 00:51:15,242
and take him to the other
for arrest and investigation.
831
00:51:15,342 --> 00:51:20,380
So dividing the responsibilities
that you might find in another
country's police department.
832
00:51:20,748 --> 00:51:25,252
But both sides answer
to the state
secretary of public security.
833
00:51:25,335 --> 00:51:26,878
Talks between Warden
834
00:51:26,879 --> 00:51:29,380
and the Nova SĂŁo Paulo Governor, Romero Silva,
835
00:51:29,381 --> 00:51:31,174
have stalled over key provisions
836
00:51:31,175 --> 00:51:32,800
in a consent decree
837
00:51:32,801 --> 00:51:36,721
that would set rules onhow the superhero works
838
00:51:36,722 --> 00:51:38,640
with law enforcement agencies.
839
00:51:38,733 --> 00:51:41,168
There have been more complaints
about Warden
840
00:51:41,268 --> 00:51:44,606
interfering with police work,
costing them cases.
841
00:51:44,706 --> 00:51:49,142
So the Secretary of Public
Security decided that he needed
842
00:51:49,242 --> 00:51:53,047
to get on the same page
with Warden, and they need
to get it in writing.
843
00:51:53,146 --> 00:51:57,619
So Warden's people go, sure,
here are our terms.
844
00:51:58,035 --> 00:52:00,578
Sources familiar with the talks say
Sources familiar with the talks say
845
00:52:00,579 --> 00:52:04,540
the sticking point was a demandby Warden that the current
846
00:52:04,541 --> 00:52:07,503
State Secretary of Public Securitystep down.
847
00:52:07,929 --> 00:52:11,298
His people didn't explain it,
didn't try to convince anybody.
848
00:52:11,398 --> 00:52:14,802
It was just, here
you go, take it or leave it.
849
00:52:15,594 --> 00:52:19,430
The former Secretary has hada 35-year career in public security
850
00:52:19,431 --> 00:52:23,100
and had a term marked by advancesin the war on crime in the state
851
00:52:23,101 --> 00:52:26,563
strengthening the relationship betweenthe police and community leaders.
852
00:52:26,814 --> 00:52:30,652
And none of that mattered
when Warden wanted
to get rid of him.
853
00:52:30,752 --> 00:52:35,155
If Warden was against someone,
it didn't matter what his
supporters thought before.
RESIGN SECRETARY!
854
00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:37,625
Suddenly everyone was in
lockstep.
855
00:52:37,725 --> 00:52:40,028
It was just like with Davi
Lopes.
856
00:52:40,128 --> 00:52:42,362
Warden's concern.
The concern of his team was
857
00:52:42,462 --> 00:52:46,366
that the Secretary became less
interested in protecting
the residents of this city
858
00:52:46,466 --> 00:52:50,104
and more interested in
protecting himself
and some shady interests.
859
00:52:50,705 --> 00:52:53,007
Warden's position was that
the Governor should appoint
860
00:52:53,107 --> 00:52:55,009
Michel Borba
as the new Secretary.
861
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:57,979
Michel Borba was the head
of the Cyber Crimes Unit,
862
00:52:58,378 --> 00:53:00,515
at the Warden's Justice
Initiative.
863
00:53:00,615 --> 00:53:01,883
And Warden's
864
00:53:01,983 --> 00:53:04,351
argument, reasonably, was that
865
00:53:04,451 --> 00:53:07,021
his cybercrimes unit
was pioneering the crime
866
00:53:07,121 --> 00:53:10,457
fighting technology
that the police
would use in the coming years.
867
00:53:10,725 --> 00:53:13,161
So why not put him
in charge? It was simple.
868
00:53:14,027 --> 00:53:15,153
Michel Borba.
869
00:53:20,902 --> 00:53:24,072
So now Warden is asking
for a voice in the
political process.
870
00:53:24,172 --> 00:53:25,740
A very large voice.
871
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,442
And I can't blame
the governor for listening.
872
00:53:28,543 --> 00:53:31,612
How do you go up against
the most popular personality
in the world
873
00:53:31,713 --> 00:53:34,549
who, by the way, uses
violence professionally?
874
00:53:34,982 --> 00:53:37,819
The newest move from Warden
has raised alarm from critics
PRESSURE FOR BORBA BOTHERS THE GOVERNOR
875
00:53:37,919 --> 00:53:41,421
who warn that Brazil's
justice system
is bending to serve one man.
876
00:53:41,805 --> 00:53:45,392
representatives for Wardenwelcomed the Secretary's resignation,
877
00:53:46,018 --> 00:53:49,228
and said they expected the immediatenomination of Michel Borba
878
00:53:49,229 --> 00:53:52,064
emphasizing thatBorba will be impartial
879
00:53:52,065 --> 00:53:54,902
and instrumental in combattingthe violence in the city.
880
00:53:55,368 --> 00:53:58,539
At that point, I knew that if
Warden wanted anything,
881
00:53:58,673 --> 00:53:59,674
he was going to get it.
882
00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:06,662
It's Hero Day.
883
00:54:06,663 --> 00:54:11,334
Big crowds expectedat Nova Paulista Avenue,
884
00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:15,964
and we're giving away four passesto the V.I.P. area...
885
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,563
The 19th of June.
886
00:54:24,699 --> 00:54:27,135
Essentially the whole city
coming together
887
00:54:27,935 --> 00:54:31,572
for a big party, was going to be
bigger than the last carnival.
888
00:54:31,939 --> 00:54:34,041
But this was was Warden's
carnival.
889
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:38,813
They were expecting hundreds
and thousands of people.
890
00:54:41,916 --> 00:54:43,618
And then...
891
00:54:45,035 --> 00:54:46,661
Reports of one active shooter
892
00:54:46,662 --> 00:54:50,456
near the entrance to Nova Paulista Avenue, where the celebration
893
00:54:50,457 --> 00:54:51,791
for Hero Day are kicking off.
894
00:54:51,792 --> 00:54:54,919
Local authorities have confirmedmultiple injuries
895
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,337
and possibly deaths.
896
00:54:56,338 --> 00:55:00,300
Large crowds were expected in the area, so that toll is expected to rise.
Large crowds were expected in the area, so that toll is expected to rise.
897
00:55:01,602 --> 00:55:04,505
I had never, ever
seen him like he was that day.
898
00:55:09,143 --> 00:55:13,648
He said that he could feel
himself losing control
like he liked it when
899
00:55:14,615 --> 00:55:17,018
he killed that man.
900
00:55:17,118 --> 00:55:19,352
You couldn't stop saying I did
this.
901
00:55:19,452 --> 00:55:21,055
He came after me.
902
00:55:21,155 --> 00:55:23,356
He blamed himself
and he said it would
never happen again.
903
00:55:26,426 --> 00:55:28,361
It was a young man
who several years earlier
904
00:55:28,461 --> 00:55:32,200
had been removed from the police
after a series of disciplinary
problems.
905
00:55:34,367 --> 00:55:37,505
He seemed to have developed
some kind of obsession
with Warden.
906
00:55:39,339 --> 00:55:42,176
He killed 33 people in less
than 2 minutes
907
00:55:42,877 --> 00:55:45,146
before a thankfully Warden
could stop him.
908
00:55:47,281 --> 00:55:50,885
Immediately, people were asking
questions.
909
00:55:50,985 --> 00:55:56,624
You know, there had been
murders under Warden's watch,
but this one was different.
910
00:55:57,424 --> 00:56:00,393
Mass shootings like these
are not common in Brazil.
911
00:56:00,962 --> 00:56:03,097
And never on this scale
and in broad daylight.
912
00:56:03,631 --> 00:56:05,233
The victims were families.
913
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,501
Kids.
914
00:56:10,787 --> 00:56:14,625
We continue to mourn the lossesin our community last month.
915
00:56:15,709 --> 00:56:17,627
Families of the victimsand members of the public
916
00:56:17,628 --> 00:56:21,756
have rightfully demanded answers.
917
00:56:21,757 --> 00:56:26,552
They've pointed outa troubling pattern of interactions
918
00:56:26,553 --> 00:56:29,138
between the alleged shooter
919
00:56:29,139 --> 00:56:33,101
and public officialsthat should be worthy of our trust.
920
00:56:33,977 --> 00:56:35,771
We're investigating.
921
00:56:36,605 --> 00:56:40,274
My office has beguna thorough investigation
922
00:56:40,275 --> 00:56:43,653
into any irregularitiessurrounding this action.
923
00:56:43,654 --> 00:56:48,158
And we are committed to bringing justicefor the victims and their families.
924
00:56:48,276 --> 00:56:51,512
There was a sense that Warden's
enemies were lurking everywhere.
925
00:56:51,612 --> 00:56:56,284
They were in corporate
boardrooms, the local
newsrooms, but especially
926
00:56:56,384 --> 00:57:02,523
they were in government, he
was sure, and his supporters
especially were sure.
927
00:56:58,710 --> 00:57:05,717
THE SYSTEM THAT WON'T GIVE UP
THE SYSTEM THAT WON'T GIVE UP
928
00:57:02,924 --> 00:57:05,893
But this was their way, his
enemies way of
929
00:57:06,127 --> 00:57:09,830
of shaking their confidence
in him, the sense that he
was protecting.
930
00:57:10,131 --> 00:57:14,467
And I'll be honest with
you, there was conspiracy
theory from the other side
931
00:57:15,069 --> 00:57:18,005
that Warden had planned the
attack
WHY MANY THINKWARDEN PLANNED THE ATTACK?
932
00:57:18,105 --> 00:57:19,607
as a false flag operation,
933
00:57:19,707 --> 00:57:22,944
and he would use that panic
to unleash the next phase of
934
00:57:24,312 --> 00:57:26,247
whatever he wanted.
935
00:57:28,416 --> 00:57:30,885
I think a lot of the wilder
claims that my office
936
00:57:30,985 --> 00:57:35,323
was giving credence to
conspiracy theories
and so on, even at the time,
937
00:57:35,423 --> 00:57:38,693
it was fairly clear
that those claims were
advanced by people
938
00:57:38,793 --> 00:57:42,830
with a political agenda
who wanted
to discredit the justice system.
939
00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:47,001
What I saw from the vantage
of my office was a series
of troubling connections.
940
00:57:47,101 --> 00:57:50,571
Now, those connections
may not have amounted
to anything,
941
00:57:50,938 --> 00:57:55,142
but I was obligated to pursue
the truth wherever it took me.
942
00:57:57,078 --> 00:58:00,081
I don't think he slept for a
month.
943
00:58:00,181 --> 00:58:02,550
You know, he looked
at the guy, the shooter,
944
00:58:02,650 --> 00:58:05,686
and he saw the whole system
trying to defend itself.
945
00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:08,389
You know, like a disease body
rejecting medicine.
946
00:58:09,156 --> 00:58:13,527
He said that he could
finally understand
how far they were willing to go
947
00:58:13,627 --> 00:58:16,564
and that he was going
to fight back.
948
00:58:16,664 --> 00:58:18,032
Who benefits?
949
00:58:19,033 --> 00:58:20,167
Just smells funny.
950
00:58:20,267 --> 00:58:22,336
I'm just asking questions.
951
00:58:22,436 --> 00:58:25,272
Movies and TV and comic books
952
00:58:25,373 --> 00:58:29,977
have trained us for decades
to look behind the scenes
for the hidden hand.
953
00:58:30,644 --> 00:58:34,715
It just makes stories
more interesting
and it's perfect for our brains,
CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND SUPERHEROSMEET EACH OTHER
954
00:58:35,883 --> 00:58:38,185
cause and effect patterns.
955
00:58:38,452 --> 00:58:42,690
If something happens, it's
because someone wanted
it to happen.
956
00:58:42,790 --> 00:58:44,025
Randomness, coincidences.
957
00:58:44,125 --> 00:58:45,826
There's nothing interesting
about that.
958
00:58:45,926 --> 00:58:48,863
Oh, and if you don't
see the patterns,
if you think a coincidence
959
00:58:48,963 --> 00:58:54,035
is just a coincidence, there's
an explanation for that.
You're a sheep.
960
00:58:54,135 --> 00:58:57,905
And I asked him how he felt
about the whole thing.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY COULD HAVE...
961
00:58:58,339 --> 00:59:01,542
Did he actually think
that these people were willing
OF COURSE!
OF COURSE!
962
00:59:00,541 --> 00:59:05,003
YOU ARE SO INNOCENT.
963
00:59:01,642 --> 00:59:04,912
to kill women and children
just to make him look bad?
964
00:59:05,713 --> 00:59:08,182
And he said, I was naive, like
used to be.
965
00:59:09,083 --> 00:59:12,253
And I honestly didn't know
anything about corruption
and I didn't know
966
00:59:12,353 --> 00:59:17,124
how far people were
willing to go
just to, you know, stop change.
967
00:59:17,858 --> 00:59:21,595
He said that he needed to be
ready to go as far as they were.
968
00:59:22,930 --> 00:59:25,399
That was a shift in him.
969
00:59:25,399 --> 00:59:28,860
...Chamber of Commercehas been distributing
970
00:59:28,861 --> 00:59:31,821
“We're with Warden” decals
971
00:59:31,822 --> 00:59:35,032
to small business ownerswho want to show their support
972
00:59:35,033 --> 00:59:38,078
in the wake of the shooting last week.
973
00:59:37,578 --> 00:59:40,181
The companies
decided that they needed
974
00:59:40,281 --> 00:59:43,451
to signal that they were in the
right side of the Warden issue.
975
00:59:43,552 --> 00:59:46,654
You saw the Warden sign in
people's profile pictures.
976
00:59:46,787 --> 00:59:49,390
You saw the resignations
at different companies.
977
00:59:49,590 --> 00:59:51,625
You could feel the temperature
rising.
978
00:59:51,717 --> 00:59:54,594
THE DANGER OF WARDEN'S FANATICS
979
00:59:54,595 --> 00:59:58,055
I can't say if Warden wanted tosee me as...
980
00:59:58,056 --> 01:00:00,516
this enemy mastermindlurking behind the scenes.
this enemy mastermindlurking behind the scenes.
981
01:00:00,517 --> 01:00:02,810
But that's what they made me.
982
01:00:02,811 --> 01:00:04,855
And all of a sudden, I'm being investigated.
983
01:00:06,398 --> 01:00:08,649
I leave it to Secretary Borba
984
01:00:08,650 --> 01:00:11,778
to run Public Securityin Nova SĂŁo Paulo
985
01:00:12,571 --> 01:00:16,699
- As I think he's doing a great job.
- Absolutely.
986
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:18,911
We support our police officers,
987
01:00:19,828 --> 01:00:22,080
but like anything that's been aroundfor a long time,
988
01:00:22,539 --> 01:00:25,876
sometimes you need to shake it upand get the dust off.
989
01:00:27,711 --> 01:00:30,588
You know, I tried to contact peopleI knew in the State Attorney's office.
990
01:00:30,589 --> 01:00:32,216
Honest people.
991
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:37,678
But by then everyone had all beenrelocated. Or some of them,
992
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:41,432
it was like they woke up one dayand they were all in on what Romeu Filho
993
01:00:41,433 --> 01:00:43,351
and Warden were doing.
994
01:00:43,352 --> 01:00:46,938
There are reportsthat the ex-representative, Davi Lopes,
995
01:00:46,939 --> 01:00:52,361
has been seen around townaccompanied by armed thugs.
996
01:00:54,112 --> 01:00:58,700
Am I crazy to thinkthere's a message in that?
997
01:00:59,618 --> 01:01:03,288
I started to pay for securitybefore I left the House.
I started to pay for securitybefore I left the House.
998
01:01:03,997 --> 01:01:07,416
There were the threats online, and on my phone,
999
01:01:07,417 --> 01:01:10,127
but the police assessedthat these were low-risk threats
1000
01:01:10,128 --> 01:01:12,672
from peoplewho weren't all that likely to act.
1001
01:01:12,673 --> 01:01:15,925
YOU MAGGOT. BEWARE!YOU'RE GONNA DIE.
1002
01:01:15,926 --> 01:01:18,178
Still, I'm not gonna lie.
1003
01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:21,347
It's hard when you've gotta sit there andlisten to somebody explain
1004
01:01:21,348 --> 01:01:24,350
the difference between a crazy personwho actually might kill you
1005
01:01:24,351 --> 01:01:27,270
and a crazy person that's too lazyto follow through
1006
01:01:27,271 --> 01:01:30,691
having to trust them to be right.
1007
01:01:31,759 --> 01:01:34,596
In these circles, there was
this feeling
1008
01:01:35,162 --> 01:01:38,199
that the walls were closing in
on the bad guys.
1009
01:01:39,066 --> 01:01:41,670
And it kept everything
at this fever pitch.
1010
01:01:42,303 --> 01:01:46,006
There were these incidents
where teachers, middle school
or high school teachers
1011
01:01:46,473 --> 01:01:51,145
would say something
that sounded skeptical of Warden
1012
01:01:51,245 --> 01:01:54,148
or some of the actions
he seemed to be endorsing.
1013
01:01:54,683 --> 01:01:56,984
And some student would hear it
posted on
1014
01:01:57,084 --> 01:02:00,821
social media and there would
be a wave of harassment.
1015
01:02:01,755 --> 01:02:03,123
See, the Internet
1016
01:02:03,224 --> 01:02:06,393
was the perfect hothouse
for these things to grow in.
1017
01:02:06,493 --> 01:02:09,196
Some of those teachers
had to leave the city.
1018
01:02:10,231 --> 01:02:14,101
I can tell you the city
felt tense in a way I'd
never experienced before.
1019
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:18,939
One day you'll see Warden
walking down, shaking hands
1020
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:22,776
and talking about
how we're all cleaning
this place up.
1021
01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:26,480
The next day, you'd see them
fighting wildfires
or rescuing people
1022
01:02:26,581 --> 01:02:30,184
in mudslides, just in case
you forgot what he
could do to you
1023
01:02:30,284 --> 01:02:33,087
if you didn't get with the
program.
1024
01:02:37,626 --> 01:02:40,127
So at this time,
every time you talk to him,
1025
01:02:40,227 --> 01:02:45,032
it would be about his enemies,
his enemies in this
radio station
1026
01:02:45,132 --> 01:02:48,402
or, you know, the office
that's working against him and.
1027
01:02:49,638 --> 01:02:52,273
I really wanted to be on his
side.
1028
01:02:52,373 --> 01:02:56,443
You know, I really wanted our
relationship to be something
apart from all of this.
1029
01:02:56,578 --> 01:02:59,313
And it was actually the point
of keeping it a secret.
1030
01:02:59,547 --> 01:03:02,149
But at this point,
I just feel like
he's testing me.
1031
01:03:02,283 --> 01:03:05,587
He'd want to see my phone.
He'd want to know who
I was talking to.
1032
01:03:07,288 --> 01:03:08,822
And at some point
1033
01:03:08,922 --> 01:03:11,425
in the streets I
started noticing
some people following me.
1034
01:03:11,959 --> 01:03:14,729
So I went back home and I asked
him
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
1035
01:03:16,497 --> 01:03:19,567
and he said, Yes,
it's for your own safety.
WHAT?
1036
01:03:20,008 --> 01:03:24,929
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
1037
01:03:22,469 --> 01:03:24,905
That was the limit for me.
1038
01:03:25,005 --> 01:03:28,809
I told him he was turning
into someone I didn't know
and that he really needed
THAT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.
1039
01:03:28,909 --> 01:03:32,046
to think if he wanted
to keep going on a path
1040
01:03:30,018 --> 01:03:31,894
THEN WE SHOULD STOP RIGHT HERE.
1041
01:03:32,146 --> 01:03:36,917
that was making him so
unhappy in that I definitely
wasn't going with him
STAY CALM.
1042
01:03:37,686 --> 01:03:40,755
and I didn't really see myself
anywhere in here.
1043
01:03:42,022 --> 01:03:44,592
I always think it's ironic
that when you have a leader
1044
01:03:44,693 --> 01:03:49,263
who sees plotters and coups
everywhere, it becomes a
self-fulfilling prophecy.
1045
01:03:49,664 --> 01:03:51,198
And the more they lash out
1046
01:03:51,298 --> 01:03:53,934
at their imaginary enemies,
the more real enemies they make.
1047
01:03:54,751 --> 01:03:57,044
I was basically alreadysort of enemy of the state.
1048
01:03:57,045 --> 01:03:58,713
So I was way out in the wilderness.
1049
01:03:58,714 --> 01:04:02,175
But that also made other peoplecome to me with their secrets.
But that also made other peoplecome to me with their secrets.
1050
01:04:02,176 --> 01:04:04,343
Who was I gonna tell, right?
1051
01:04:04,344 --> 01:04:08,974
I thought that these people should knowabout each other.
1052
01:04:09,049 --> 01:04:11,385
I had been talking to Davi on
background
1053
01:04:11,485 --> 01:04:14,988
and I told him about
this conversation
I had with a police officer.
1054
01:04:15,623 --> 01:04:19,059
He'd gotten a call and gone to
the scene.
1055
01:04:20,861 --> 01:04:23,732
The suspect essentially
1056
01:04:24,865 --> 01:04:28,302
it been what I would describe
as tortured and killed
by Warden.
1057
01:04:29,036 --> 01:04:33,874
But the officer decides
to investigate
a little further and he realizes
1058
01:04:34,241 --> 01:04:36,477
and he has the proof
1059
01:04:36,578 --> 01:04:39,647
that Warden got the wrong guy.
1060
01:04:39,748 --> 01:04:42,517
It tortured and killed an
innocent man.
1061
01:04:44,485 --> 01:04:48,422
It's just. Beyond words.
1062
01:04:49,691 --> 01:04:51,626
So the officer, you know,
1063
01:04:51,726 --> 01:04:54,294
does the paperwork, files the
report
1064
01:04:54,863 --> 01:04:58,899
and his boss tells him
to destroy all the evidence.
1065
01:05:00,067 --> 01:05:02,302
So he goes to his boss. His
boss and.
1066
01:05:02,570 --> 01:05:07,341
And what they on this guy's
table is a photo of him
shaking hands with Warden.
1067
01:05:08,041 --> 01:05:12,913
So the officer takes one
look at that photo and decides
1068
01:05:14,081 --> 01:05:16,417
it's clearly not safe for me
to know what I know.
1069
01:05:18,586 --> 01:05:20,254
So I'm going to shut up.
1070
01:05:20,588 --> 01:05:23,558
It wasn't just police officers
that were starting to talk.
1071
01:05:24,091 --> 01:05:29,029
It was like a handful of people
in the State Attorney
General's office,
1072
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:34,435
a handful of people in the
courts, a few teachers, a
bunch of journalists.
1073
01:05:34,017 --> 01:05:37,229
FIND ALL DOCUMENTS ATTACHED.
1074
01:05:37,304 --> 01:05:39,741
At this point, everyone is
communicating separately.
1075
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:44,879
There's this feeling of paranoia
that if the wrong person
1076
01:05:44,978 --> 01:05:48,482
gets wind of this,
something terrible could
happen to you.
1077
01:05:49,082 --> 01:05:51,485
It's called the coordination
problem.
1078
01:05:51,586 --> 01:05:55,155
Nobody wants to be the
soldier that jumps out of a
trench and gets gunned down.
1079
01:05:55,590 --> 01:05:58,025
But if everybody jumps out
at the same time,
1080
01:05:58,125 --> 01:06:00,795
there's a decent chance
that some of
them will make it to the target.
1081
01:06:01,328 --> 01:06:05,700
The problem is, how do
you know anybody's
going to jump out with you,
1082
01:06:06,433 --> 01:06:09,604
especially when you don't even
know who else is in the trench?
1083
01:06:10,179 --> 01:06:14,473
- We needed a lot of people.
- And they needed to be in step on timing.
1084
01:06:14,474 --> 01:06:17,143
And I needed to knowI could trust everyone
1085
01:06:17,144 --> 01:06:20,981
because if this gets out, a lot of lives are over.
1086
01:06:21,081 --> 01:06:24,384
After I told Davi about this
story.
1087
01:06:24,919 --> 01:06:28,989
He said to me, You know,
there are other
people who had similar stories.
1088
01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:31,559
I said, How many?
1089
01:06:31,659 --> 01:06:32,993
There were a lot.
1090
01:06:34,328 --> 01:06:35,496
He showed me a video,
1091
01:06:35,830 --> 01:06:40,334
something the Brazilian
Hero producers tried to bury.
1092
01:06:40,434 --> 01:06:44,271
There's a man and he's taunting
Warden
1093
01:06:45,439 --> 01:06:49,644
and Warden just snapped. Killed
him.
1094
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:58,285
I felt sick.
1095
01:07:01,271 --> 01:07:04,316
The message had to beimpossible to ignore.
1096
01:07:04,816 --> 01:07:08,028
We knew Warden was justgetting more powerful.
1097
01:07:11,064 --> 01:07:14,969
So I guess you could say
I'm getting used to this
superhero thing.
1098
01:07:15,068 --> 01:07:18,438
I've stopped some bad guys
and helped to fix my hometown,
1099
01:07:18,706 --> 01:07:22,042
and I've learned more about my
powers.
1100
01:07:22,376 --> 01:07:26,581
More importantly,
I've gotten to connect
with people. Still.
1101
01:07:26,981 --> 01:07:29,984
It's a funny thing
being called a superhero
all the time.
1102
01:07:30,852 --> 01:07:33,487
Maybe this is the year
when everything changes.
1103
01:07:43,397 --> 01:07:46,099
I was in the front yard
when my wife called out to me.
1104
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:47,936
Turn the news on.
1105
01:07:48,201 --> 01:07:49,737
And I thought, oh, shit.
1106
01:07:49,837 --> 01:07:52,674
Disturbing images
emerging today from what sources
1107
01:07:52,774 --> 01:07:54,943
and the prosecutor's office
in Nova, Sao Paulo
1108
01:07:55,043 --> 01:07:58,913
say was an act of
brutality carried out by Warden.
1109
01:07:58,996 --> 01:08:02,665
Emails obtained from sources in theNova Sao Paulo State Attorney's
Emails obtained from sources in theNova Sao Paulo State Attorney's
1110
01:08:02,666 --> 01:08:07,795
reveal a policy of shelving investigationsabout Warden's crimes
1111
01:08:07,796 --> 01:08:11,675
creating an environmentwhere the laws don't apply.
1112
01:08:12,342 --> 01:08:15,095
A sophisticated scheme assembled to...
1113
01:08:14,629 --> 01:08:18,900
Guard the skeletons in Warden's
closet, Literally
and figuratively.
1114
01:08:25,138 --> 01:08:28,509
I walked away that morning.
1115
01:08:29,077 --> 01:08:30,845
You know, it comes to a point
where
1116
01:08:30,945 --> 01:08:34,348
the whole thing that
you've constructed,
something gets inside
1117
01:08:34,448 --> 01:08:37,250
and it's just really easy
to tear the whole thing down.
1118
01:08:38,553 --> 01:08:42,222
He had been calling me and
texting me the whole day,
but I wasn't answering.
1119
01:08:42,322 --> 01:08:46,794
So he showed up at my apartment,
just furious that
these people for,
1120
01:08:46,995 --> 01:08:50,632
you know, try and destroy him
and at me for being
on their side.
1121
01:08:52,499 --> 01:08:56,070
And I told him I was done
and he didn't like that.
1122
01:08:56,470 --> 01:09:01,676
And honestly, that was. Scary.
1123
01:09:01,776 --> 01:09:04,512
He said that there were people
trying to hurt me, that he was
1124
01:09:04,612 --> 01:09:06,914
the only one keeping me safe
1125
01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:10,918
and I wasn't saying anything. I
was done.
1126
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,589
So he got really quiet
1127
01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:17,525
and he said, You're
not a part of this anymore.
1128
01:09:18,425 --> 01:09:20,795
And then he just left.
1129
01:09:21,763 --> 01:09:23,831
Reports from Brazil that Warden
has left
1130
01:09:23,931 --> 01:09:28,268
Nova Sao Paulo amid
a wave of explosive
allegations in recent days.
1131
01:09:28,368 --> 01:09:31,673
We knew immediately
that this was
the product of a sophisticated
1132
01:09:31,773 --> 01:09:36,144
media operation and there
was really no effort to
hide it or hide the agenda.
1133
01:09:38,846 --> 01:09:43,450
I think that people from
Nova Sao Paulo saw right
through it. I really do.
1134
01:09:44,384 --> 01:09:47,021
But the national media
has its own imperatives. Right?
1135
01:09:48,056 --> 01:09:49,289
And they smell the story.
1136
01:09:49,356 --> 01:09:53,317
About the complaints that...
1137
01:09:53,318 --> 01:09:56,822
Warden's crime-fighting activitieshave devolved
1138
01:09:58,031 --> 01:10:02,286
into arbitrary justice, brutality,
into arbitrary justice, brutality,
1139
01:10:02,703 --> 01:10:05,789
rigging of city institutions.
1140
01:10:06,748 --> 01:10:09,293
To me, this is...
1141
01:10:10,085 --> 01:10:11,545
"conspiracy"
1142
01:10:12,171 --> 01:10:14,798
of the corrupt and bureaucratic
1143
01:10:15,174 --> 01:10:19,052
who want to take our heroof their activities.
1144
01:10:21,054 --> 01:10:26,559
The reality is this guyhas the hardest job in the world,
1145
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:31,481
You are there on the couch judging.
1146
01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:35,110
Let the man work.
1147
01:10:35,485 --> 01:10:38,196
And I think the people stand with Warden.
1148
01:10:38,197 --> 01:10:41,449
They stand with this campaignto tear down bureaucracy
1149
01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:44,368
and make our institutions work again.
1150
01:10:44,369 --> 01:10:49,457
And any attempt to underminewhat the people of this city want.
1151
01:10:49,458 --> 01:10:54,963
I believe that no authority would be ableto control the wrath it'd cause.
1152
01:10:59,510 --> 01:11:03,180
People did pay attention. So it worked.
People did pay attention. So it worked.
1153
01:11:03,722 --> 01:11:05,806
But they didn't all agree.
1154
01:11:05,807 --> 01:11:07,350
There's going to bea congressional investigation.
1155
01:11:07,351 --> 01:11:09,310
But Warden had cultivatedso many politicians,
1156
01:11:09,311 --> 01:11:13,105
they couldn't make anything happenin the House or the Senate.
1157
01:11:13,106 --> 01:11:17,318
The President decliningto take action against Warden,
1158
01:11:17,319 --> 01:11:21,156
saying it's a matter for stateand local authorities...
1159
01:11:21,490 --> 01:11:24,450
And all this time, Warden is gone.
1160
01:11:24,451 --> 01:11:28,204
- No statement from his publicist.
- No tweets from his producers.
1161
01:11:28,205 --> 01:11:30,498
- He stops showing up for work.
- It was a stalemate.
1162
01:11:30,499 --> 01:11:32,876
So, there were consequences.
1163
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:36,963
But they were all coming down on us.
1164
01:11:36,964 --> 01:11:40,383
New developmentsin the Bandeirantes Palace this morning,
1165
01:11:40,384 --> 01:11:43,094
where the governor and authoritiesmet overnight
1166
01:11:43,095 --> 01:11:46,138
to discuss potential action on Warden,
1167
01:11:46,139 --> 01:11:50,102
in what were reportedly bitter talksthat lasted until morning.
1168
01:11:50,644 --> 01:11:53,563
At this hour, the Superior Court of Justice is issuing
1169
01:11:53,564 --> 01:11:57,358
the search and seizure warrantfor the Justice Initiative building
1170
01:11:57,359 --> 01:12:02,738
as part of the investigations for murder, assault, and obstruction of justice
as part of the investigations for murder, assault, and obstruction of justice
1171
01:12:02,739 --> 01:12:05,074
of Daniel Dias, also known by the name Warden.
1172
01:12:05,075 --> 01:12:08,911
The governor has issuedthe following statement:
1173
01:12:08,912 --> 01:12:11,914
“The citizen known as Warden
1174
01:12:11,915 --> 01:12:15,751
has come to represent justiceand security for all of us.
1175
01:12:15,752 --> 01:12:18,504
Now, Warden has an opportunityto show us
1176
01:12:18,505 --> 01:12:20,339
that he believes in those ideals
1177
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:22,592
by facing trialfor the serious offenses
1178
01:12:22,593 --> 01:12:25,762
documented by our authorities.
1179
01:12:28,716 --> 01:12:34,454
7:14 a.m... A search warrant
was issued for the Justice
Initiative Building.
1180
01:12:34,555 --> 01:12:38,526
At 7:20, the military police
deployed its forces to
1181
01:12:38,626 --> 01:12:40,728
Sao Paulo to take him into
custody.
1182
01:12:40,986 --> 01:12:42,737
WARDEN IS UNDER POLICE CROSSHAIRS
1183
01:12:42,738 --> 01:12:45,490
I was informed that this city mustbe prepared for an assault.
1184
01:12:45,991 --> 01:12:49,077
An unprecedented assaultsince the birth of our democracy.
1185
01:12:50,787 --> 01:12:54,290
You're seeing imageswhere the first thousands of policemen
1186
01:12:54,291 --> 01:12:56,960
are deployingtoward the downtown area.
1187
01:12:57,085 --> 01:13:00,046
Their orders: To seizeand enter the Justice Initiative
Their orders: To seizeand enter the Justice Initiative
1188
01:13:00,047 --> 01:13:02,257
with a search and seizure warrant.
1189
01:13:04,718 --> 01:13:07,595
What the politicians, who've now shown
1190
01:13:07,596 --> 01:13:10,974
they're willing to use violenceto subvert the will of the people.
1191
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,896
What the politicians don't see is thatthey are the ones who've unleashed forces
1192
01:13:16,146 --> 01:13:18,357
they can't no longer control.
1193
01:13:19,066 --> 01:13:21,359
Romeu Filho was already talkinglike a populist
1194
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,529
and not as the State Attorney Generalof Nova SĂŁo Paulo.
1195
01:13:24,530 --> 01:13:27,114
Large crowds beginning to formthis morning,
1196
01:13:27,115 --> 01:13:29,535
in anticipation of the police's arrival.
1197
01:13:29,952 --> 01:13:33,455
They've gathered around Warden'sJustice Initiative building access areas
1198
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:36,625
as a kind of human shieldto prevent the troops from entering...
1199
01:13:37,376 --> 01:13:39,585
The governor's office, meanwhile,
1200
01:13:39,586 --> 01:13:43,005
announced that they are in contactwith the Ministry of Justice
1201
01:13:43,006 --> 01:13:45,591
for a possible deploymentof the National Security Force
1202
01:13:45,592 --> 01:13:46,552
in the city.
1203
01:13:48,762 --> 01:13:52,014
The governor thinks he can decide for you.
1204
01:13:52,015 --> 01:13:55,142
The media think they can decide for you.
1205
01:13:55,143 --> 01:13:58,730
Are you going to let themtake away your city in a fight?
1206
01:13:58,806 --> 01:14:02,343
The police had assembled their
forces along a two kilometer
1207
01:14:02,442 --> 01:14:06,180
perimeter around a building
sort of sending a message like,
1208
01:14:06,614 --> 01:14:09,283
look, we are serious,
but we don't have to do this.
1209
01:14:11,652 --> 01:14:13,888
That's when Warden showed up.
1210
01:14:13,988 --> 01:14:17,658
This was the first time anybody
had seen him since the
story came out,
1211
01:14:19,209 --> 01:14:23,255
You're here to do your jobs, and that's good.
1212
01:14:23,922 --> 01:14:26,216
That's what we need.
1213
01:14:26,592 --> 01:14:29,970
But I promised all those people back therethat I'd do my job, too.
1214
01:14:31,471 --> 01:14:34,933
And I'm sorry your governordoesn't respect what they want.
1215
01:14:35,767 --> 01:14:41,356
But I do. So my offer to the governorand the justice is this:
1216
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:44,693
If you leave, then we're all good.
1217
01:14:46,236 --> 01:14:50,823
But if you keep going andand choose to clash with people
1218
01:14:50,824 --> 01:14:55,579
who defend better days, we're not onthe same side anymore.
1219
01:14:57,664 --> 01:15:00,625
What happens after that, that's on your head.
What happens after that, that's on your head.
1220
01:15:00,626 --> 01:15:03,378
An ultimatum from Warden to the Governor.
1221
01:15:03,712 --> 01:15:06,131
We're expecting a responsewithin the hour.
1222
01:15:06,548 --> 01:15:08,425
We knew it could come to this point.
1223
01:15:09,676 --> 01:15:12,762
And that maybe it had to happen.
1224
01:15:12,763 --> 01:15:15,349
But in that moment...
1225
01:15:16,558 --> 01:15:19,268
I just wanted it all to stop.
1226
01:15:19,269 --> 01:15:20,896
I wanted everything to go back to normal.
1227
01:15:22,564 --> 01:15:24,065
It didn't.
1228
01:15:24,066 --> 01:15:27,568
Word from the commanding officersaying their orders have not changed.
1229
01:15:27,569 --> 01:15:28,778
They are advancing towards
1230
01:15:28,779 --> 01:15:31,697
the Justice Initiativeand they are prepared
1231
01:15:31,698 --> 01:15:35,369
to hold it until the warrantis executed by the agents
1232
01:15:35,803 --> 01:15:37,371
In his mind.
1233
01:15:37,805 --> 01:15:40,141
This is the ultimate battle,
1234
01:15:38,830 --> 01:15:43,710
WARDEN'S ULTIMATE
1235
01:15:40,241 --> 01:15:41,809
good versus evil.
1236
01:15:41,909 --> 01:15:44,412
He's defending his city.
1237
01:15:44,513 --> 01:15:47,014
This is what superheroes do.
1238
01:15:47,381 --> 01:15:51,952
The police basic doctrine
was we acknowledge
1239
01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:56,457
that any one officer, any
hundred is no match for Warden.
1240
01:15:56,891 --> 01:15:58,559
But he can't be everywhere at
once.
1241
01:15:58,659 --> 01:16:02,463
So we're going to advance and
presume that he is not going
1242
01:16:02,563 --> 01:16:06,300
to start a bloodbath
with thousands
of civilian lives on the line.
1243
01:16:07,168 --> 01:16:09,603
And we're going to dare
him to fire the first shot.
1244
01:16:11,272 --> 01:16:12,440
He accepted.
1245
01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:17,111
I didn't think
1246
01:16:17,546 --> 01:16:20,114
whether it was safe from the
studio.
1247
01:16:21,015 --> 01:16:25,352
It was just these words
repeating over and over
"just get through it".
1248
01:16:25,453 --> 01:16:27,288
"just get through it"
1249
01:16:27,388 --> 01:16:29,924
It takes 2 hours for the Army
to take the first block.
1250
01:16:30,024 --> 01:16:32,426
Fighting continues
to rage in Nova Sao Paulo.
1251
01:16:32,527 --> 01:16:36,630
Well, after dark, the
White House issuing a
statement urging all sides.
1252
01:16:37,898 --> 01:16:39,700
It was taking its toll.
1253
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,670
A big toll was police against
civilians.
1254
01:16:42,770 --> 01:16:46,974
Warden was doing damage
but trying to avoid
a body count.
1255
01:16:47,074 --> 01:16:51,045
Shocking images of violence
in the streets
of Nova Sao Paulo as residents
1256
01:16:51,145 --> 01:16:54,181
gathered as an act of
protest that appears
to have descended into violence.
1257
01:16:54,281 --> 01:16:56,050
This brawl.
1258
01:16:56,484 --> 01:16:59,086
People in masks just tearing
into each other.
1259
01:16:59,328 --> 01:17:01,704
We have reports of conflictbetween the population
We have reports of conflictbetween the population
1260
01:17:01,705 --> 01:17:05,208
and police forces around the city.
1261
01:17:05,209 --> 01:17:08,629
The governor is urging all residentsto stay indoors.
1262
01:17:08,729 --> 01:17:10,698
As bad as it was for the police.
1263
01:17:10,798 --> 01:17:13,467
They're taking territory,
they're holding it,
1264
01:17:13,734 --> 01:17:16,137
and they're pacifying
the civilian population.
1265
01:17:16,504 --> 01:17:20,141
Finally that evening,
they have a tight cordon
around Warden's
1266
01:17:20,241 --> 01:17:24,044
building and more police units
mobilizing.
1267
01:17:24,245 --> 01:17:25,813
He's surrounded.
1268
01:17:25,913 --> 01:17:27,214
He's not going anywhere.
1269
01:17:27,314 --> 01:17:29,683
Now, this is the dilemma.
1270
01:17:30,151 --> 01:17:31,752
There's only one way into that
building.
1271
01:17:31,818 --> 01:17:33,819
POLICE SURROUND JUSTICE INITIATIVE
1272
01:17:32,853 --> 01:17:36,991
And the police know that
they're not going in
there without losing
VIOLENCE, LOOTING CONTINUESIN NOVA SAO PAULO
1273
01:17:37,592 --> 01:17:41,061
hundreds of troops
and possibly more civilians.
1274
01:17:41,195 --> 01:17:44,832
They're not going to be able to
arrest Warden. It's a siege.
1275
01:17:45,699 --> 01:17:48,002
And the plan was to see
how far Warden would go.
1276
01:17:49,002 --> 01:17:51,712
We're here next tothe Justice Initiative building
1277
01:17:51,713 --> 01:17:54,424
minutes after the startof negotiations.
1278
01:17:54,509 --> 01:17:56,611
And now you've got pressure
on the Governor.
1279
01:17:56,844 --> 01:17:58,613
You've got the President
calling.
1280
01:17:58,712 --> 01:18:02,016
You've got casualties, damage
in the water and power
1281
01:18:02,116 --> 01:18:05,520
supplies, the possibility of
unrest in other cities.
ATTENTIONBLOCKED STREETS
1282
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,889
Everything is pushing
toward a fast resolution.
1283
01:18:08,989 --> 01:18:13,260
And I think it occurred to
a lot of people, especially
around Warden,
1284
01:18:14,061 --> 01:18:16,565
that times like these times of
crisis
1285
01:18:17,364 --> 01:18:20,868
are when you get to make the big
changes to your wish list.
1286
01:18:20,968 --> 01:18:22,236
Warden did his part
1287
01:18:23,304 --> 01:18:26,307
and he faced those policemen,
thousands of them, outside
his building,
1288
01:18:26,740 --> 01:18:30,244
and he made it clear
that he wasn't going
to abandon his city.
1289
01:18:30,579 --> 01:18:33,615
My job was to make sure
that this incursion
1290
01:18:34,248 --> 01:18:36,383
didn't turn into facts on the
ground.
1291
01:18:36,466 --> 01:18:39,719
Sources are saying the governor'soffice has brokered a deal
1292
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,515
with Warden through the State AttorneyRomeu Thomas Filho, in which
1293
01:18:44,516 --> 01:18:49,228
it has acceded to the superhero's demandsto withdraw all forces immediately.
1294
01:18:49,229 --> 01:18:50,772
We're havinga press conference later.
1295
01:18:50,864 --> 01:18:52,601
This was the deal.
1296
01:18:53,033 --> 01:18:56,571
The state would withdraw
all of its
emergency forces out of the city
1297
01:18:57,204 --> 01:19:00,174
and the state will allow
the city to govern its
affairs in accordance
1298
01:19:00,274 --> 01:19:02,776
with the wishes of
the people who lived here.
1299
01:19:03,043 --> 01:19:05,446
That meant holding a vote, a
plebiscite.
1300
01:19:05,879 --> 01:19:09,684
The people from Nova Sao
Paulo would decide
whether to investigate Warden
1301
01:19:09,917 --> 01:19:13,854
or give him the legal tools
he needed to best serve the city
1302
01:19:14,121 --> 01:19:15,690
and to the rest of the country.
1303
01:19:15,789 --> 01:19:17,458
It was a statement
We want our business,
you mind yours
1304
01:19:17,382 --> 01:19:19,927
PLEBISCITE TO DECIDETHE FUTURE OF THE CITY
1305
01:19:20,060 --> 01:19:22,963
and by our example
we'll show you
that we've got the better way.
1306
01:19:23,063 --> 01:19:24,798
Voters in Nova Sao Paulo
1307
01:19:24,898 --> 01:19:28,269
They'll decide whether
to grant Warden
sweeping new powers or leave
1308
01:19:28,369 --> 01:19:29,970
the justice system intact.
1309
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:32,172
Warden has promised
to abide by the result,
1310
01:19:32,273 --> 01:19:36,578
even if a no vote would force
him to face prosecution by
the state government.
1311
01:19:33,315 --> 01:19:36,818
VOTE "YES" FOR WARDEN
1312
01:19:42,824 --> 01:19:44,243
It was a surrender.
1313
01:19:45,035 --> 01:19:47,246
The vote never stood a chance.
1314
01:19:47,496 --> 01:19:49,414
What the voters,
1315
01:19:50,874 --> 01:19:53,293
the ones who were allowed to cast votes,
1316
01:19:55,045 --> 01:19:57,297
decided was to pass two laws
1317
01:19:57,506 --> 01:20:03,135
One giving Warden legal immunityfrom any harm to life,
One giving Warden legal immunityfrom any harm to life,
1318
01:20:03,136 --> 01:20:07,307
or property caused in the course of hislaw-enforcement activities. So he can't
1319
01:20:07,641 --> 01:20:11,061
face consequences for killing someone.
1320
01:20:11,436 --> 01:20:14,940
The other, giving him the powerto suspend any law
1321
01:20:16,358 --> 01:20:18,818
that he believes is interferingwith his work.
1322
01:20:18,819 --> 01:20:24,825
THANKS WARDEN FOR SAVING NOVA SPFROM THE CRIMINALS
1323
01:20:20,454 --> 01:20:24,358
There's this thing that a lot of
us think that the king,
1324
01:20:24,925 --> 01:20:28,429
the emperor, just marches
up to the throne
and says, I'm in charge now.
1325
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:31,065
But that's not true.
1326
01:20:31,165 --> 01:20:33,067
That's not how it happens.
1327
01:20:33,167 --> 01:20:37,639
The first Roman emperor
was given his powers
one at a time
1328
01:20:37,871 --> 01:20:43,177
by the Senate to save the
republic.
1329
01:20:43,277 --> 01:20:45,446
They didn't even call him the
emperor.
1330
01:20:45,547 --> 01:20:47,948
They called him the Princeps.
1331
01:20:48,048 --> 01:20:50,518
It meant first citizen.
1332
01:20:50,851 --> 01:20:53,788
On the surface, it was the
status quo.
WARDEN AND SECRETARY BORBA MEETTO DISCUSS PLANNED REFORMS.
1333
01:20:54,355 --> 01:20:58,058
But behind the scenes, Warden
had been given a state
within a state,
1334
01:20:58,992 --> 01:21:00,595
he could run things his way.
1335
01:21:00,695 --> 01:21:03,197
Whatever that meant on any given
day, and anybody who didn't like
1336
01:21:03,297 --> 01:21:05,633
could just get the hell out.
1337
01:21:07,134 --> 01:21:09,370
I left as soon as the fighting
stopped.
1338
01:21:10,839 --> 01:21:14,108
It felt like witness protection,
1339
01:21:14,542 --> 01:21:18,445
you know, new city, new home,
new friends.
1340
01:21:19,179 --> 01:21:22,617
And I know that if he wants to,
he'll find me or
it'll be someone
1341
01:21:22,717 --> 01:21:25,687
he doesn't even know
who wants to be part of
the movement. But.
1342
01:21:27,421 --> 01:21:30,891
I wanted to tell the truth
first.
1343
01:21:47,991 --> 01:21:49,243
And that was it.
1344
01:21:53,872 --> 01:21:55,791
Nova Sao Paulo is my home.
1345
01:21:59,336 --> 01:22:03,674
My daughter. My wife.
My daughter. My wife.
1346
01:22:04,675 --> 01:22:06,718
I know them very well.
1347
01:22:09,346 --> 01:22:12,307
I'm just not sureif I know my home anymore.
1348
01:22:14,101 --> 01:22:17,539
I have been told the execs
from our parent company
were flying
1349
01:22:17,639 --> 01:22:22,342
in the next morning to
meet with my producers
, so I knew that wasn't good.
1350
01:22:22,911 --> 01:22:26,180
People were already trying
to get me off the air.
1351
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,015
I was a liability.
1352
01:22:28,115 --> 01:22:30,552
And with the meeting happening,
1353
01:22:31,151 --> 01:22:35,956
I pretty much knew that night
would be my last broadcast.
1354
01:22:36,758 --> 01:22:38,893
They were shooting right at the
messenger.
1355
01:22:38,992 --> 01:22:43,865
So I received a call from my
boss in the UK headquarters.
1356
01:22:44,566 --> 01:22:48,870
So very polite conversation
wherein I was informed
1357
01:22:49,503 --> 01:22:54,876
that the owners had essentially
terminated
1358
01:22:55,242 --> 01:22:58,412
the whole newsroom in Brazil,
effective immediately.
1359
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:04,218
You look at the news coverage
since we left, I think
Warden's been pretty happy.
THE NEW ORDER
THE NEW ORDER
1360
01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:07,956
Warden was about
controlling the message.
But look
1361
01:23:09,289 --> 01:23:11,826
Yeah. What's that line?
1362
01:23:12,292 --> 01:23:14,995
Democracy is the theory that.
1363
01:23:16,296 --> 01:23:18,600
People know what they want
1364
01:23:18,700 --> 01:23:23,036
and deserve to get it good and
hard.
1365
01:23:25,773 --> 01:23:29,009
I think people. Got what they
asked for.
1366
01:23:36,283 --> 01:23:39,621
I was very proud of the work
I done as a state
attorney general.
1367
01:23:40,487 --> 01:23:42,256
But after speaking with Warden,
1368
01:23:42,356 --> 01:23:45,192
we came to the conclusion
that I would best serve
the city as Mayor.
1369
01:23:45,793 --> 01:23:48,362
And fortunately, people agreed.
ROMEU FILHO ELECTEDWITH 70% OF THE VOTES
1370
01:23:48,462 --> 01:23:52,065
And I think all the work we did
speaks for itself.
1371
01:23:53,801 --> 01:23:55,302
There's no denying that.
1372
01:23:55,402 --> 01:23:58,606
Nova Paulo, the city
that Romeu Filho and Warden
1373
01:23:58,706 --> 01:24:01,041
are building will impress you.
1374
01:24:02,075 --> 01:24:04,378
It wants to impress you.
1375
01:24:04,913 --> 01:24:07,649
Its skyline is its own message.
1376
01:24:07,749 --> 01:24:10,450
Look at what we can do.
1377
01:24:10,552 --> 01:24:13,287
It's one part Singapore, one
part Sparta.
1378
01:24:13,922 --> 01:24:16,591
In this state of perpetual high
alert,
1379
01:24:16,991 --> 01:24:21,663
looking every day for attacks
from without and traitors
from within.
1380
01:24:21,763 --> 01:24:24,732
There it is. He has his city.
1381
01:24:25,332 --> 01:24:27,869
He enforces the law his way.
1382
01:24:28,770 --> 01:24:33,073
Frankly, I think it's the
perfect expression of
what a superhero is.
1383
01:24:33,741 --> 01:24:36,109
A lot of it, you'll
recognize, looks the same.
1384
01:24:36,209 --> 01:24:39,079
But there's an iron curtain.
1385
01:24:39,179 --> 01:24:43,317
You don't get a lot of news
that's real. You get rumors.
1386
01:24:43,751 --> 01:24:47,354
Now, Warden is doing less
and less public appearances.
1387
01:24:47,454 --> 01:24:49,489
He is spending more time alone.
1388
01:24:49,591 --> 01:24:52,994
He's angrier. He's paranoid.
1389
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:55,462
He sees enemies and rats
everywhere.
1390
01:24:55,563 --> 01:24:58,666
Ever since people came forward
about him.
1391
01:24:58,766 --> 01:25:02,135
Now, if you live in Nova Sao
Paulo,
1392
01:25:02,604 --> 01:25:05,773
you're going to think twice
before criticizing Warden.
1393
01:25:05,873 --> 01:25:07,775
And if you read anything about
the city,
1394
01:25:07,875 --> 01:25:10,845
it's because Warden
allowed it to be published.
1395
01:25:11,278 --> 01:25:14,782
Anything else gets branded
a conspiracy theory
and shouted down.
1396
01:25:15,550 --> 01:25:18,686
So the truth is getting
murkier and murkier,
1397
01:25:19,787 --> 01:25:24,559
and the collective sense of
reality is slipping away.
1398
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,755
Warden, you're filminganother season of your show, correct?
1399
01:25:30,923 --> 01:25:33,424
That's right. Especially after everythingthat's happened,
1400
01:25:33,425 --> 01:25:37,261
with all the lies out there, I think it's important
1401
01:25:37,262 --> 01:25:39,806
to be able to speak directlyto the people.
1402
01:25:40,516 --> 01:25:42,434
- That sounds good.-Yes.
1403
01:25:43,435 --> 01:25:47,689
Yeah, you know. I've been thinking a lotabout the comics I used to read.
1404
01:25:48,649 --> 01:25:52,778
You'd always have this supervillainwho's fighting the hero.
1405
01:25:54,321 --> 01:25:56,365
But in real life, it's not that simple.
1406
01:25:57,407 --> 01:26:00,744
Sometimes it's the lie that's the villain.
Sometimes it's the lie that's the villain.
1407
01:26:01,662 --> 01:26:04,038
Sometimes it's the system.
1408
01:26:04,632 --> 01:26:07,769
You hear his obsessed with his
legacy.
AND NOW, WHAT'S NEXT?
1409
01:26:07,869 --> 01:26:10,905
He needs to know what comes
after him.
1410
01:26:11,005 --> 01:26:12,840
You hear about researchers.
1411
01:26:12,940 --> 01:26:17,679
He has them doing experiments
trying to duplicate
whatever made him
1412
01:26:17,779 --> 01:26:20,280
everything he swore not to do.
1413
01:26:20,380 --> 01:26:26,020
Criminals. Suspects disappear,
but
1414
01:26:26,954 --> 01:26:30,692
We don't know that. Romeu Filho
keeps it under guard
1415
01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:33,861
the new way can't be wrong.
1416
01:26:34,696 --> 01:26:36,396
It's still too much
to gain for the winners.
1417
01:26:36,496 --> 01:26:40,802
So the message from everyone
every day, business, news
1418
01:26:41,201 --> 01:26:42,737
is that the city is thriving.
1419
01:26:42,837 --> 01:26:45,238
The city is safe.
1420
01:26:45,338 --> 01:26:47,407
The city is defying its critics.
1421
01:26:47,508 --> 01:26:50,712
It's silenced the doubts.
It's kicked out the traitors.
1422
01:26:50,812 --> 01:26:52,647
It's found a better way.
1423
01:26:52,747 --> 01:26:54,048
It has its Warden.
1424
01:26:54,006 --> 01:26:55,132
...its guardian.
1425
01:26:55,550 --> 01:26:58,351
And now the real work can begin.
1426
01:26:59,761 --> 01:27:02,597
- Answer the question.- What's the question?
- Answer the question.- What's the question?
1427
01:27:02,598 --> 01:27:05,851
Where do you see yourself in five years?
1428
01:27:06,393 --> 01:27:08,312
I don't know.
1429
01:27:09,813 --> 01:27:10,981
Say something.
1430
01:27:13,317 --> 01:27:15,151
The stuff I'm doing here,
1431
01:27:15,152 --> 01:27:20,073
if it works here, it should work everywhere.
1432
01:27:23,535 --> 01:27:24,786
So, that's my answer.
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