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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,105 So back when you started, there were some doubts, right? 2 00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:39,373 Were there? 3 00:00:39,974 --> 00:00:41,108 I hadn't heard. 4 00:00:41,408 --> 00:00:43,711 So that's news to you? I know. 5 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:47,414 What would you like to say to those people who think, well, 6 00:00:47,515 --> 00:00:49,651 I like what this guy's doing, but... 7 00:00:49,751 --> 00:00:53,053 I've elected people to represent me who should be doing this job? 8 00:00:53,588 --> 00:00:56,791 Everything, All the criticism that I've heard of what I'm doing, it 9 00:00:56,891 --> 00:01:00,028 basically boils down to, well, what about the system? 10 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:02,296 Trust the system. 11 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:06,066 The system wasn't representing people. But I am. 12 00:01:09,837 --> 00:01:12,707 Daniel didn't really have much to say about himself at first, 13 00:01:12,807 --> 00:01:16,511 so it was really on the journalists in Brazil to find out who he was 14 00:01:16,611 --> 00:01:19,079 and how he came to be that way. 15 00:01:21,683 --> 00:01:23,183 There wasn't anything about him 16 00:01:23,283 --> 00:01:26,420 growing up that would make you think this guy's different. 17 00:01:26,521 --> 00:01:31,124 It was comics, video games and football. 18 00:01:33,895 --> 00:01:36,965 He never talked to anybody about it, any of his friends. 19 00:01:37,297 --> 00:01:39,000 But at some point he just started, 20 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:41,536 you know, avoiding physical activities at school. 21 00:01:41,636 --> 00:01:44,237 He said he was bored with them. 22 00:01:47,775 --> 00:01:50,945 Definitely not one of the cool kids in school. 23 00:01:51,713 --> 00:01:54,015 But he do these things when we hung out 24 00:01:55,148 --> 00:01:58,318 and I thought it was hilarious because he didn't even care. 25 00:01:59,721 --> 00:02:01,990 He's almost the archetype, 26 00:02:02,090 --> 00:02:06,060 the lost soul, the outsider who suddenly discovers, Hey, 27 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:11,699 I can have control over my own life in a very big, very powerful way. 28 00:02:12,634 --> 00:02:16,804 Superhero comics and movies have given him the tools to say. 29 00:02:18,106 --> 00:02:19,306 I'm a superhero. 30 00:02:19,181 --> 00:02:21,349 ...Murder rates plunged... 31 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:23,559 New arrests this morning... 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,563 A super man is born and he's Brazilian. 33 00:02:26,648 --> 00:02:28,348 Do they like you? I don't know. 34 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:33,737 And now he's going to finish offall the punks in this country. 35 00:02:33,588 --> 00:02:35,188 Word also started to get out 36 00:02:35,288 --> 00:02:38,425 pretty quickly about the crime numbers the city was posting. 37 00:02:38,526 --> 00:02:41,395 and we had posted double digit declines 38 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:43,263 that began to attract a lot of attention. 39 00:02:43,288 --> 00:02:47,125 This wasn't Warden bringing balanceto the system. 40 00:02:47,376 --> 00:02:50,838 This was Warden decidingwho gets justice and who doesn't. 41 00:02:50,963 --> 00:02:52,422 There was no system. 42 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:54,633 Just him. 43 00:02:54,709 --> 00:02:56,209 He's a global celebrity. 44 00:02:57,111 --> 00:03:00,014 And, you know, against like all of the good. 45 00:03:00,114 --> 00:03:01,916 he's doing, the complaints? 46 00:03:02,215 --> 00:03:03,918 They're less than a footnote. 47 00:03:04,018 --> 00:03:07,454 If you want to understand why he became so popular so quickly, 48 00:03:07,555 --> 00:03:09,557 all you have to do is look at his background. 49 00:03:21,903 --> 00:03:23,805 And they find out 50 00:03:23,905 --> 00:03:26,974 we've been living right under our noses in Nova Sao Paulo his whole life. 51 00:03:27,075 --> 00:03:31,478 But as you'd expect, it's the story about his birth that's unusual. 52 00:03:32,013 --> 00:03:35,616 His biological parents are from the state of Pernambuco, 53 00:03:35,983 --> 00:03:38,452 and we find out they both passed away 54 00:03:37,176 --> 00:03:41,095 MARRIED COUPLE DIESAFTER MYSTERIOUS RADIATION EXPOSURE. 55 00:03:38,553 --> 00:03:41,122 from something that looks like radiation poisoning. 56 00:03:41,823 --> 00:03:45,225 The father right before his birth, mother just after COUPLE EXPLORING CAVESDIES OF RADIATION POISONING. 57 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:47,995 and when no family 58 00:03:48,096 --> 00:03:51,498 surfaces to take the baby, he's placed into the foster care system. 59 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:54,969 A family adopts him, and from what we can tell, he grows up 60 00:03:55,335 --> 00:03:57,437 normally under the circumstances. 61 00:03:58,822 --> 00:04:01,741 We saw him at the foster agency, We saw him at the foster agency, 62 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:03,535 three months old 63 00:04:04,328 --> 00:04:06,955 and it was immediatewe knew he was our son. 64 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:11,418 He was the calmest babywe'd ever seen. 65 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,216 I can't remember him ever getting sick, all through his childhood. 66 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:22,295 So we were in college by then, and one day he just stopped going to class. 67 00:04:22,395 --> 00:04:25,365 So when I texted him, he told me that he'd been thinking 68 00:04:25,465 --> 00:04:28,803 a lot about the way his mom was killed. 69 00:04:29,402 --> 00:04:33,040 I thought that was weird because he never really talked about her. 70 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:35,608 But losing his mother, 71 00:04:35,609 --> 00:04:36,692 my wife... 72 00:04:36,693 --> 00:04:38,319 JOBERTO DIASFATHER OF DANIEL DIAS 73 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,906 ...was hard for him. 74 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:43,324 It was hard for all of us. 75 00:04:43,325 --> 00:04:45,994 It's a fact of life in Brazil. 76 00:04:46,537 --> 00:04:49,957 Violence can touch anybody. 77 00:04:50,499 --> 00:04:53,752 And she was in the wrong placeat the wrong time. 78 00:04:54,562 --> 00:04:58,331 He told me that he needed some time off and he wanted to, 79 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,169 you know, figure out who he really was. 80 00:05:01,927 --> 00:05:04,930 Daniel didn't show outward emotion. 81 00:05:06,598 --> 00:05:09,434 He wouldn't cry or ask about her. 82 00:05:09,977 --> 00:05:13,939 He was never a kid who told youexactly how he was feeling. 83 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:20,404 But somehow, he'd always show you. 84 00:05:21,022 --> 00:05:25,392 He's discovering this strength, this speed, the fact that nothing seems to hurt it. 85 00:05:25,593 --> 00:05:28,563 We don't know when he first noticed there was something different about him, 86 00:05:28,663 --> 00:05:32,033 but we do know he threw himself into figuring out what to do with it. 87 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:41,175 it almost perfectly fits the contours of the classic superhero origin story. 88 00:05:41,542 --> 00:05:45,146 Now, if you're somebody who doesn't have these things, that's a perfect fantasy. 89 00:05:45,445 --> 00:05:49,517 And that's why superhero stories connect with so many of us. 90 00:05:49,951 --> 00:05:54,522 And now along comes someone who gets to live that story. 91 00:05:56,190 --> 00:05:58,425 So what is he thinking about? 92 00:05:58,993 --> 00:06:01,162 He's growing up reading comic books like the rest of us. 93 00:06:01,729 --> 00:06:07,367 And what those have done is given him a sort of decoder key for reality. 94 00:06:07,735 --> 00:06:10,838 Oh, now I understand why I'm like this. 95 00:06:11,038 --> 00:06:13,040 Now I understand why I'm feeling this way. 96 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:15,676 Now I understand what I should do. 97 00:06:16,210 --> 00:06:19,046 And what is it that superheroes do? 98 00:06:19,146 --> 00:06:21,549 They fight villains. 99 00:06:25,344 --> 00:06:28,513 We're live looking at Bolivar Street 100 00:06:28,514 --> 00:06:32,767 where according to authorities, one gunman has been holding 101 00:06:32,768 --> 00:06:36,688 passengers hostage on this bus thatwas headed to the state coast. 102 00:06:38,833 --> 00:06:41,335 It was only like four years ago. BUS HIJACKING IN NOVA SPPOLICE STANDOFF NOW IN THIRD HOUR 103 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:43,938 I had been an anchor on CNE for three years. 104 00:06:47,775 --> 00:06:51,012 You start thinking you've seen everything, even the bus hijacking. 105 00:06:51,946 --> 00:06:53,848 So that wasn't a surprise. 106 00:06:53,948 --> 00:06:57,585 But what happened next? That was. 107 00:06:57,685 --> 00:07:00,388 A bus hijacking in Nova Sao Paulo, Brazil. 108 00:07:00,487 --> 00:07:02,422 Coming to a surprising conclusion... 109 00:07:02,523 --> 00:07:04,859 ...a man appears to have leapt through the bus window 110 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:09,764 at an inconceivable speed, stopping the hijacker before disappearing. 111 00:07:09,864 --> 00:07:13,301 And then the gunman just goes like flying off the bus. 112 00:07:13,401 --> 00:07:16,537 And this... I guess I would call him a kid. 113 00:07:16,637 --> 00:07:18,940 This kid steps off, like totally calm, 114 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:26,488 BUS HIJACKINGSPECULATION GROWS ABOUT CIVILIAN HERO 115 00:07:21,542 --> 00:07:24,078 like he just got to his stop. 116 00:07:24,211 --> 00:07:27,447 An astonishing story out of Nova Sao Paulo, Brazil. 117 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,984 It was like a scene out of a superhero movie. 118 00:07:30,418 --> 00:07:33,621 The attention of the entire world has turned to the Brazilian city 119 00:07:33,721 --> 00:07:35,756 and to the vigilante hero from last... 120 00:07:36,081 --> 00:07:38,958 - My name is Daniel Dias. - And I want people 121 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:43,589 like that man who hurt and killinnocent people every day. 122 00:07:44,381 --> 00:07:46,466 I want them to be afraid. 123 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:50,871 The vigilante named Daniel Dias has left scientists 124 00:07:50,972 --> 00:07:54,141 in disbelief with a slew of abilities that seem more at home. 125 00:07:54,241 --> 00:07:56,310 In a comic... He can leap hundreds of meters. 126 00:07:56,410 --> 00:07:59,647 He runs faster than the speed of sound, and he's strong enough 127 00:07:59,747 --> 00:08:02,717 to bend solid metal. 128 00:08:02,817 --> 00:08:05,519 What we don't know about him, how he exists. 129 00:08:07,655 --> 00:08:11,325 So the day after the bus. 130 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:16,864 After he introduced himself to the camera, he walks in as if, 131 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:19,867 you know, nothing happened, like... 132 00:08:19,875 --> 00:08:20,750 Hey guys, 133 00:08:20,751 --> 00:08:21,710 how's it going? 134 00:08:23,537 --> 00:08:26,507 and, oh my God, before he even gets to the door. 135 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:29,777 I mean, for a shy kid, this 136 00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:32,680 moment is the moment that you dream of. 137 00:08:33,047 --> 00:08:34,548 He was the hero. 138 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:38,085 Everybody at school knew his name and not just at school. 139 00:08:38,853 --> 00:08:43,624 Now is the biggest story in the world is a comic book come to life. 140 00:08:43,724 --> 00:08:45,026 He's a celebrity. 141 00:08:45,126 --> 00:08:48,863 Everybody wanted to be the childhood friend. DANIEL DIAS WAS MY BEST FRIEND,WE'RE NEIGHBORS FOR 4 YEARS. 142 00:08:48,963 --> 00:08:51,766 Everyone had this one story about the one time I ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS SPECIAL. 143 00:08:51,866 --> 00:08:56,137 they had talked and how from just that they knew how special he was. 144 00:08:57,638 --> 00:09:00,674 Definitely news to him how many friends he had. 145 00:09:01,542 --> 00:09:06,013 We know because we've read the same comics and seen the same movies that he has. 146 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:11,185 That celebrity is something he must have anticipated since it began. 147 00:09:11,485 --> 00:09:14,989 But there are different ways of interacting with the public. 148 00:09:15,089 --> 00:09:17,058 There's the Bruce Wayne model 149 00:09:17,158 --> 00:09:19,627 where I'm a celebrity in everyday life, but nobody knows I'm Batman. 150 00:09:20,061 --> 00:09:22,930 Then there's the Peter Parker model where I'm the totally anonymous, 151 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:24,965 mild mannered high school student. 152 00:09:25,066 --> 00:09:26,333 Oh, there's the Tony Stark model 153 00:09:26,434 --> 00:09:29,570 where it's like, Hey, I am Iron Man. 154 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:33,474 I think if you look at the world today at digital technology, 155 00:09:33,574 --> 00:09:36,677 you think I'm going to spend half my energy protecting my secret identity, 156 00:09:36,777 --> 00:09:38,612 then order 50 sets of matching long underwear 157 00:09:38,712 --> 00:09:41,082 and somebody is just going to find out who I am anyway. 158 00:09:41,182 --> 00:09:43,017 I'll pass on the whole Bruce Wayne thing. 159 00:09:44,218 --> 00:09:46,120 As a public figure, at least 160 00:09:46,220 --> 00:09:49,356 you go into a restaurant and you get drinks on the house. 161 00:09:49,757 --> 00:09:52,126 You know, you get the perks. 162 00:10:35,769 --> 00:10:37,638 There's this big question 163 00:10:37,738 --> 00:10:40,708 What's someone with Daniel's ability supposed to do in the real world? 164 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:42,910 If you want to make money, 165 00:10:43,010 --> 00:10:46,480 the first thing I think is probably I should play a professional sport. 166 00:10:46,615 --> 00:10:50,417 But as soon as there's even a whisper of that, the International Olympic 167 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:55,557 Committee, the players associations in every sport, even in America, 168 00:10:55,923 --> 00:10:59,093 they make it known that he's not welcome to compete. 169 00:10:59,193 --> 00:11:02,763 So the next idea is from these American producers 170 00:11:03,164 --> 00:11:07,502 who try to sell him on the concept of a big live show, 171 00:11:08,269 --> 00:11:11,405 kind of a spectacle where he can show off his powers around the world. 172 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:14,808 That just is like a circus act. He passes. 173 00:11:15,142 --> 00:11:20,181 Some people were even trying to attach themselves to him from all Churches, 174 00:11:20,549 --> 00:11:26,787 the ones talking about like prophecy chosen one stuff that creeps him out. 175 00:11:27,188 --> 00:11:29,056 So if you never had a 176 00:11:29,156 --> 00:11:32,693 friend turn into an object of worship, I'll tell you right away. 177 00:11:32,793 --> 00:11:35,564 I had no idea what to tell him. 178 00:11:35,664 --> 00:11:38,600 I mean, he's trying really hard to be the same person 179 00:11:38,699 --> 00:11:41,835 he was, but his life looks nothing like it did before. 180 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:45,806 You have people calling him a Savior, God. 181 00:11:46,974 --> 00:11:50,244 What do you tell your friend? 182 00:11:50,344 --> 00:11:52,547 I was like... 183 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:53,547 Enjoy! 184 00:11:54,748 --> 00:11:56,250 Take the free stuff. 185 00:11:57,218 --> 00:11:59,453 You know, what would you say? 186 00:12:00,522 --> 00:12:05,560 But I think his dad was really the one reminding him, you have a gift. 187 00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:07,461 You can do things. 188 00:12:07,562 --> 00:12:09,830 Look what's happening in the country. 189 00:12:10,164 --> 00:12:12,433 You can tell he's kind of searching for meaning. 190 00:12:12,534 --> 00:12:16,036 And he's thinking, What's my way to go big? 191 00:12:17,371 --> 00:12:20,508 But in all these places, his response is. 192 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:23,978 I don't want to be part of that. 193 00:12:24,345 --> 00:12:26,981 So you have a superhero. 194 00:12:27,381 --> 00:12:30,751 The first thing I think is he's got to fight crime, right? 195 00:12:31,118 --> 00:12:33,454 I think someone looked at him and figure. 196 00:12:33,688 --> 00:12:36,558 Sooner or later, this kid's going to be busts and bad guys. 197 00:12:37,091 --> 00:12:39,293 He might as well learn what's game's about. 198 00:12:39,393 --> 00:12:42,597 So they let him participate in some police operations. 199 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:45,567 You'd seen his face. He loved it. 200 00:12:45,966 --> 00:12:48,969 Everybody loved it. 201 00:12:51,238 --> 00:12:54,074 What is a superhero? 202 00:12:54,743 --> 00:12:58,245 A superhero is someone who sacrifices for us. 203 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,651 Someone who can do the job alone. So we don't have to. 204 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:07,388 Now, you can have superhero teams, but what you don't have is superheroes 205 00:13:07,488 --> 00:13:11,825 on teams. So every time he gets involved with an organization, 206 00:13:12,092 --> 00:13:14,495 there are these disagreements. 207 00:13:15,396 --> 00:13:17,364 He wants to do things his way. 208 00:13:17,464 --> 00:13:20,702 He feels like they're holding him back. And he's right. 209 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:23,304 They are. I mean, he's a 210 00:13:24,405 --> 00:13:26,807 he's an unstoppable force. 211 00:13:26,907 --> 00:13:29,577 But that works both ways. 212 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:33,280 We had started talking a lot when he was out there trying out stuff. I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. 213 00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:34,105 THANKS, I HAVE NO TIME TO BREATH! 214 00:13:33,682 --> 00:13:36,518 You know, every day would be a text. YOU DESERVE ALL YOUR SUCCESS! 215 00:13:36,618 --> 00:13:39,119 A meme, a video call. 216 00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:41,388 I like that he hadn't changed. 217 00:13:41,488 --> 00:13:43,558 If anyone had a right to change, it was him. 218 00:13:43,658 --> 00:13:46,026 But he was still the same person I knew growing up. 219 00:13:46,293 --> 00:13:47,995 You know, because he genuinely believed 220 00:13:48,095 --> 00:13:51,265 that he could do the right thing and that he would do the right thing. 221 00:13:51,533 --> 00:13:55,836 He just didn't feel this trust coming from the people making the decisions. 222 00:14:00,382 --> 00:14:05,720 Look, I probably hadn't thought muchabout Daniel 223 00:14:05,721 --> 00:14:07,514 until that press conference he gave. 224 00:14:10,684 --> 00:14:12,852 I knew he was busy doinghis celebrity thing 225 00:14:12,853 --> 00:14:17,274 while I was in my third termin the State House. 226 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:19,984 I traveled all over the country 227 00:14:19,985 --> 00:14:24,281 and I saw more pain and injusticethan I ever could've imagined. 228 00:14:25,574 --> 00:14:27,033 But as I saw the world, 229 00:14:27,034 --> 00:14:29,995 more and more, my thoughts came back here... 230 00:14:30,746 --> 00:14:32,039 to Nova São Paulo, 231 00:14:33,248 --> 00:14:37,293 the suffering and violenceand broken lives 232 00:14:37,294 --> 00:14:41,339 And as I asked myself the questionthat has always guided my choices. 233 00:14:41,340 --> 00:14:44,050 Where can I do the most good? 234 00:14:44,051 --> 00:14:48,263 I discovered that my answer was“here.” At home. 235 00:14:49,557 --> 00:14:52,893 That speech was when I first set up and realized this guy wasn't 236 00:14:52,993 --> 00:14:56,029 just some celebrity out there with a couple of models in his arms. 237 00:14:56,497 --> 00:14:58,899 He was somebody you got to pay attention to. 238 00:14:59,358 --> 00:15:02,151 The answer, I believe, The answer, I believe, 239 00:15:02,152 --> 00:15:07,533 is to choose a place and transform itone life at a time. 240 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:11,578 For me, that place is Nova São Paulo. 241 00:15:12,112 --> 00:15:13,848 That was it. 242 00:15:14,214 --> 00:15:15,750 One minute he was a celebrity. 243 00:15:15,850 --> 00:15:18,085 The next he was like. 244 00:15:18,185 --> 00:15:20,889 Well, no one really knew what it meant. 245 00:15:22,464 --> 00:15:27,426 Beginning tomorrow, my job will beto ensure that no one in this city 246 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:32,849 has to live in fear, that no onehas to live without hope, 247 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:34,642 and that everyone has reason 248 00:15:34,643 --> 00:15:39,439 to hope their life tomorrowwill look better than their life today. 249 00:15:40,065 --> 00:15:43,902 I won't be paid by the cityor your taxes, 250 00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:46,655 but it is my job, 251 00:15:47,322 --> 00:15:50,950 because every day, rain or shine, 252 00:15:50,951 --> 00:15:54,912 just like anyone else, I'll be waking up and trying 253 00:15:54,913 --> 00:15:59,042 to make this a better placefor all of us to live. 254 00:16:00,169 --> 00:16:01,461 Thank you. 255 00:16:02,396 --> 00:16:04,899 I had no idea what he was going to do. 256 00:16:05,499 --> 00:16:08,268 You know, even as a kid, he was always the person 257 00:16:08,368 --> 00:16:11,138 who would take his own decisions without telling anybody. 258 00:16:11,238 --> 00:16:13,474 So this was pretty much like him. 259 00:16:13,808 --> 00:16:18,145 He also announces that he has a new name now, Warden. 260 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:22,750 which means guardian. 261 00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:26,888 The superhero name. 262 00:16:27,287 --> 00:16:29,858 There's always been something about violence. 263 00:16:30,157 --> 00:16:32,727 Even defensive, necessary violence 264 00:16:33,126 --> 00:16:36,497 that was recognized as so foreign to civilized life. 265 00:16:37,231 --> 00:16:39,233 The life of the town, the life of the family 266 00:16:39,634 --> 00:16:43,805 that our fighters have always had to assume a different persona. 267 00:16:44,506 --> 00:16:47,241 Whether it's war paint or samurai masks 268 00:16:47,341 --> 00:16:50,845 or the codenames that our soldiers use when they talk to each other on the radio. 269 00:16:51,211 --> 00:16:55,349 When you're in that world where life and death are on the line, 270 00:16:56,450 --> 00:17:00,755 you need to become someone else. 271 00:17:00,855 --> 00:17:06,226 And sometimes that someone is a truer you. 272 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:07,394 Warden. 273 00:17:07,862 --> 00:17:09,463 Obviously, it's an English word. 274 00:17:09,564 --> 00:17:12,266 It's not a Portuguese word. 275 00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:14,903 Daniel had gotten to know some people, 276 00:17:15,003 --> 00:17:19,406 entertainment industry people, and they told him, you know, 277 00:17:19,507 --> 00:17:21,709 you might be working on a local level, but 278 00:17:21,809 --> 00:17:24,044 like it or not, you're an international figure. 279 00:17:24,579 --> 00:17:28,016 You need people all over the world to hear one word 280 00:17:29,017 --> 00:17:30,752 and think of you. 281 00:17:31,218 --> 00:17:33,487 And he saw that, too. 282 00:17:35,523 --> 00:17:37,157 So Warden hits the scene. 283 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:40,160 He's shaking hands. He's on patrol. 284 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:42,095 And he quickly discovers something. 285 00:17:42,195 --> 00:17:46,233 He discovers that supervillains the "raison d'etre" to be a superhero. 286 00:17:46,701 --> 00:17:49,003 Well, we don't really get a lot of those in a real world, 287 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:52,907 what we do get in the real world, in the real criminal world, 288 00:17:53,407 --> 00:17:56,844 are a lot of ordinary people with an underdeveloped sense of empathy 289 00:17:57,512 --> 00:18:01,448 who are trying to find ways to to cheat, to take advantage, 290 00:18:01,749 --> 00:18:05,987 and sometimes use violence against those they perceive as targets. 291 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,121 Not an evil genius masterplan, 292 00:18:09,189 --> 00:18:10,959 frankly, for that stuff. 293 00:18:11,059 --> 00:18:14,062 There's not a whole lot that superhero can do that a normal can do. 294 00:18:14,762 --> 00:18:18,533 You know, you you learn the neighborhood, you meet the people you earn their trust. 295 00:18:18,733 --> 00:18:21,970 You develop good sources and you use data. 296 00:18:22,269 --> 00:18:24,038 That's how you solve crimes. 297 00:18:24,137 --> 00:18:27,107 And the more crimes you solve, the more crimes you stop. 298 00:18:28,141 --> 00:18:32,614 I think his idea was more, I dare you try something on my watch. 299 00:18:32,981 --> 00:18:38,620 You always have the association of the superhero and the city with his city. 300 00:18:39,286 --> 00:18:41,388 Batman has Gotham. Superman has Metropolis. 301 00:18:41,488 --> 00:18:43,390 Green Lantern has Central City. 302 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:46,661 Now, the comic book writers didn't have to do that. 303 00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:49,631 It cost them just as much to draw Superman in Metropolis 304 00:18:49,731 --> 00:18:51,566 as it did to draw them on the moon. 305 00:18:51,666 --> 00:18:55,503 But there's always been this sense that a superhero 306 00:18:55,603 --> 00:18:58,873 isn't some distant figure watching us from Mount Olympus. 307 00:18:58,973 --> 00:19:01,009 They're part of our community. 308 00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:04,344 And Warden understood that. 309 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:13,819 Well, this was before Warden had accessto police intelligence data 310 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:17,866 which can tell you, if well used, where and when crimes occur. 311 00:19:18,450 --> 00:19:22,703 So what he was doingwas picking a huge swath of the city 312 00:19:22,704 --> 00:19:24,580 and telling all the residents, 313 00:19:24,581 --> 00:19:26,333 beware. 314 00:19:27,501 --> 00:19:31,463 He thought it was reassuringthat he was there, 315 00:19:32,089 --> 00:19:35,508 but to residents of those neighborhoods, sometimes it felt more like he was waiting 316 00:19:35,509 --> 00:19:39,762 - for them to slip up. You know? - Like they were the criminals 317 00:19:39,763 --> 00:19:42,182 he was looking to protect the city from. 318 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:48,455 I worried about him in the beginning. 319 00:19:48,556 --> 00:19:50,091 You know, he was coming from a place 320 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:53,094 where if he was in your life, it was as a celebrity. 321 00:19:53,695 --> 00:20:00,400 Like this professional lifesaver that the least controversial person imaginable. 322 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:03,604 But how do you keep this up when your job 323 00:20:03,705 --> 00:20:07,709 is to make judgments about who's a good guy and who's a bad guy? 324 00:20:09,644 --> 00:20:13,246 If you're not naturally the kind of person who craves attention 10 THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WARDEN. 325 00:20:13,681 --> 00:20:17,585 and suddenly millions of people you've never met have opinions about you 326 00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:20,588 being under that microscope gets to you. 327 00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:26,127 I remember he told me about the first time 328 00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:29,197 he stopped a robbery, I think it was 329 00:20:30,531 --> 00:20:34,769 at a gas station, and the guy had stolen like 60 bucks. 330 00:20:32,482 --> 00:20:39,489 WARDEN STOPS ROBBERYAT A GAS STATION DOWNTOWN. 331 00:20:34,902 --> 00:20:39,574 So he tackled the robber and the guy starts screaming, howling, 332 00:20:39,674 --> 00:20:42,110 like making noises that you've never heard in your life. 333 00:20:44,679 --> 00:20:47,048 And at some point, he looks at the guy and 334 00:20:48,182 --> 00:20:51,119 he sees that the guy is not well 335 00:20:51,219 --> 00:20:54,122 and he's not armed or anything. 336 00:20:54,222 --> 00:20:57,759 And he was like, Is this who I'm fighting? 337 00:20:57,859 --> 00:20:59,994 So I think this was really tough for him. 338 00:21:00,528 --> 00:21:03,497 The problem was this was all legally very tenuous. 339 00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:06,934 He wasn't the type of guy who wanted to read you your rights. 340 00:21:07,568 --> 00:21:11,172 He hadn't been trained in the police department's use of force standards. 341 00:21:11,773 --> 00:21:15,610 He was a superhero not some recruits with a rulebook. 342 00:21:16,077 --> 00:21:19,312 In my office, we got signals from certain judges that to them 343 00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:23,851 what one was doing was surveillance on private citizens without a warrant. 344 00:21:23,951 --> 00:21:26,220 It was an untenable situation. 345 00:21:28,890 --> 00:21:32,994 Warden had agreed to let some TV producers put a camera crew on him. 346 00:21:34,061 --> 00:21:36,531 That was how Brazilian Hero started. 347 00:21:36,631 --> 00:21:39,600 These were the people who thought up his new international name. 348 00:21:40,001 --> 00:21:42,570 So of course, they didn't keep it in Brazil. 349 00:21:43,504 --> 00:21:49,143 Right away they packaged it as Our Hero and licensed it all around the world. 350 00:21:49,243 --> 00:21:51,279 It's a massive hit. 351 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:52,980 People call me a Warden. 352 00:21:54,115 --> 00:21:55,550 Ever since I was young, 353 00:21:55,650 --> 00:21:57,919 I've known I was a little different. 354 00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:07,929 I don't think he loved having cameras around all the time, 355 00:22:08,663 --> 00:22:12,166 but he figured at least he could control the message. 356 00:22:13,034 --> 00:22:17,905 It also brought in a huge stream of revenue for Warden. 357 00:22:18,438 --> 00:22:24,045 It just cements him as this internationally beloved figure. 358 00:22:25,112 --> 00:22:29,717 So he's coming in to millions of people's homes every week, 359 00:22:30,117 --> 00:22:35,723 doing these heroic, basically magical things in front of the camera. 360 00:22:35,939 --> 00:22:39,150 Definitely, it wasn't an encouraging backdrop 361 00:22:39,151 --> 00:22:41,695 to open an investigation in. 362 00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:50,938 Davi Lopes is the state representative that falls on that grenade 363 00:22:51,038 --> 00:22:54,709 and tries to act on some of the concerns coming from the police. 364 00:22:54,809 --> 00:22:59,747 The "OAB" the Order of Attorneys of Brazil and some members of the community 365 00:23:00,589 --> 00:23:02,381 INVESTIGATION: LOPES TO LEADSTATE HOUSE: WARDEN WORKS FOR US. 366 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:04,091 I decided that the way you make sure 367 00:23:04,092 --> 00:23:06,844 everyone's needs get addressed 368 00:23:06,845 --> 00:23:09,640 is to find smart people, people from who know the law. 369 00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:14,394 and you have them look at whatWarden's doing. What he's intending to do. 370 00:23:14,645 --> 00:23:17,439 You figure out how Warden can workwith the community, 371 00:23:17,898 --> 00:23:21,151 with the police, with the courts, and you decide on some rules. 372 00:23:21,944 --> 00:23:24,321 And if he's infringed on anybody's rights, 373 00:23:25,072 --> 00:23:28,116 we're able to assurethere are consequences for that. 374 00:23:29,377 --> 00:23:33,147 Consequences. So this is really the first time 375 00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:36,751 that anyone's had to wrestle with this question. 376 00:23:36,851 --> 00:23:39,787 Can you apply the law to a demi god? 377 00:23:39,887 --> 00:23:44,225 Can you arrest him? How? 378 00:23:45,425 --> 00:23:48,129 What kind of laws do we need? 379 00:23:49,764 --> 00:23:53,534 If you can't just let him do whatever he wants. 380 00:23:53,634 --> 00:23:54,769 Can you? 381 00:23:56,270 --> 00:23:59,206 The investigation. 382 00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:02,376 I think it really just changed the way he thought about things. 383 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:05,478 You know, he saw what he did as a community service 384 00:24:05,913 --> 00:24:08,683 that, you know, everyone's super hero. 385 00:24:08,783 --> 00:24:11,552 And then these politicians come along and treated him as a punching bag. 386 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,721 He saw it as a game to them. LOOKS LIKE A JOKE, UNBELIEVABLE! 387 00:24:14,755 --> 00:24:18,259 So that was the first time I actually saw him get frustrated. 388 00:24:19,126 --> 00:24:21,629 Well, it turned out investigating him was very unpopular. 389 00:24:22,263 --> 00:24:24,632 Warden wasn't the guy handing speeding tickets. 390 00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:27,634 WARDEN STOPS CRIMEOVERPASS CLOSED AFTER PURSUIT 391 00:24:24,899 --> 00:24:28,836 People were seeing him stopping awful, violent people every single day. 392 00:24:28,936 --> 00:24:31,305 And more importantly, they were seeing it on TV. 393 00:24:32,707 --> 00:24:34,642 You threatened to take that away from people. 394 00:24:34,742 --> 00:24:36,677 And, you know, you playing with fire. 395 00:24:37,244 --> 00:24:42,883 We forget the salience of the feeling of physical safety in politics. 396 00:24:43,784 --> 00:24:46,554 You know, in Brazil, people saw this reality. 397 00:24:47,288 --> 00:24:50,558 Tens of thousands of murders and rapes every year. 398 00:24:50,658 --> 00:24:53,594 And no matter who you are, your survival instincts kick in 399 00:24:54,195 --> 00:24:56,864 and you think my security first. 400 00:24:57,631 --> 00:24:59,567 Other people we'll talk about later. 401 00:24:59,667 --> 00:25:02,536 And they said to the politicians, I don't want to hear anything 402 00:25:02,636 --> 00:25:04,772 you have to say until you fix this. 403 00:25:06,007 --> 00:25:07,575 How can you keep me safe 404 00:25:07,975 --> 00:25:10,311 in my home, in my city? 405 00:25:11,612 --> 00:25:14,115 It was a top voting issue in the country. 406 00:25:14,215 --> 00:25:16,484 And so everybody acted. 407 00:25:16,984 --> 00:25:19,954 And if you're Brazilian and you feel like the system is 408 00:25:20,054 --> 00:25:24,258 sacrificing your safety for some abstract concept like due process, 409 00:25:24,725 --> 00:25:27,762 you get that lizard brain reaction, 410 00:25:28,195 --> 00:25:31,065 you're making me unsafe 411 00:25:31,165 --> 00:25:33,167 and you get fed up. 412 00:25:37,204 --> 00:25:40,509 As it turns out, public opinion didn't matter one way or the other. 413 00:25:40,499 --> 00:25:41,749 ...leaked documents revealing 414 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:46,213 an illegal donation to StateRepresentative Davi Lopes's campaign. 415 00:25:46,313 --> 00:25:50,117 So this scandal breaks and it's just the perfect 416 00:25:50,217 --> 00:25:53,888 stew of ingredients that get people actually interested in local news. 417 00:25:53,971 --> 00:26:00,519 LOPES FACES CORRUPTION CHARGESOPPOSITION CALLS FOR RESIGNATION LOPES FACES CORRUPTION CHARGESOPPOSITION CALLS FOR RESIGNATION 418 00:26:00,928 --> 00:26:02,930 He doesn't stand a chance. 419 00:26:02,646 --> 00:26:05,648 Davi Lopes offered his resignation today, 420 00:26:05,649 --> 00:26:11,070 in the face of mounting calls to step downover the Illegal donations accusation. 421 00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:12,029 He acknowledged that 422 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:17,536 the scandal had“become a huge distraction.” 423 00:26:17,661 --> 00:26:20,163 “The people of Nova São Paulodeserve better.” 424 00:26:20,414 --> 00:26:22,541 the statement read. 425 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:25,001 #BYELOPES 426 00:26:25,002 --> 00:26:27,503 I can take pressure... 427 00:26:27,504 --> 00:26:28,421 You know? 428 00:26:28,422 --> 00:26:30,256 I came a long way. 429 00:26:30,257 --> 00:26:33,051 I can take threats. 430 00:26:33,677 --> 00:26:36,763 But all the time, 431 00:26:37,890 --> 00:26:39,683 from thousands of people? 432 00:26:41,059 --> 00:26:44,188 Then it becomes a choice between my job, 433 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:46,440 and my family's safety. 434 00:26:47,074 --> 00:26:51,345 Everybody, millions of people knew that he wasn't happy with this investigation 435 00:26:51,445 --> 00:26:56,350 and that anything that would make Lopes' life harder would be good for him. 436 00:26:56,951 --> 00:27:00,688 So it just took, you know, someone out there who decided they knew 437 00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:01,956 how to help. 438 00:27:02,323 --> 00:27:05,626 With Davi Lopes out of the way and his supporters silent. 439 00:27:05,926 --> 00:27:08,496 The coast was really clear for Warden to do things his way. 440 00:27:08,629 --> 00:27:10,532 The first time I thought 441 00:27:11,432 --> 00:27:13,868 maybe that feeling you've got to watch your back, 442 00:27:13,968 --> 00:27:17,671 that if you're not on his side, something bad was going to happen. 443 00:27:19,406 --> 00:27:21,275 That's what he wants. 444 00:27:21,408 --> 00:27:24,078 Maybe Warden is someone you've got to watch out for. 445 00:27:28,449 --> 00:27:32,219 What is the superhero way? 446 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:33,954 To fight crime. 447 00:27:34,388 --> 00:27:36,824 And part of it's about optics, right? 448 00:27:36,924 --> 00:27:40,494 The spectacle. Every arrest showcases 449 00:27:40,595 --> 00:27:44,031 that you're faster, stronger, tougher than the bad guys. 450 00:27:44,131 --> 00:27:46,433 You maybe humiliate them. 451 00:27:47,468 --> 00:27:50,505 Part of the superheroes job is to be a moral force. 452 00:27:51,272 --> 00:27:55,342 You're embodying in one person the values of an entire community, 453 00:27:55,610 --> 00:28:00,714 and you're delivering the smackdown that community wishes 454 00:28:00,814 --> 00:28:04,619 it could give to anyone or anything that threatens it. 455 00:28:04,985 --> 00:28:09,023 You're saying our side, the side of order and righteous violence 456 00:28:09,156 --> 00:28:12,561 beats your side, the side of disorder and unrighteous violence. 457 00:28:12,661 --> 00:28:17,765 But what the superhero way really means is no rules. 458 00:28:17,865 --> 00:28:21,135 You have the heroes sense of morality and you trust it. 459 00:28:21,735 --> 00:28:25,706 But Warden isn't, you know, filing an arrest report. 460 00:28:25,806 --> 00:28:26,974 And he's certainly not going 461 00:28:27,074 --> 00:28:29,476 to show up in court to testify at the trial. 462 00:28:47,936 --> 00:28:50,230 Is everyone good? Nobody hurt? 463 00:28:51,899 --> 00:28:56,337 I think people celebrated Warden because they made that connection. 464 00:28:57,505 --> 00:29:00,040 They realized he is us. 465 00:29:00,941 --> 00:29:05,580 This is what we would do if we had the power. 466 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,350 The question is, where does that fit into the legal system? 467 00:29:09,718 --> 00:29:13,588 So you can see how things might be on a collision course. 468 00:29:16,790 --> 00:29:18,859 I don't know how to explain it. 469 00:29:18,959 --> 00:29:21,929 It felt like he was himself again. 470 00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:25,099 You know, everybody had this idea of who he should be 471 00:29:25,199 --> 00:29:29,203 or what he should do or wanted something from him. 472 00:29:29,303 --> 00:29:33,207 And suddenly he felt like he could define himself. 473 00:29:33,608 --> 00:29:35,610 And he came alive. 474 00:29:36,578 --> 00:29:38,212 It was an amazing combination 475 00:29:38,312 --> 00:29:41,482 of the person I grew up with and the man I was getting to know. 476 00:29:43,484 --> 00:29:44,985 It had to be a secret, though. 477 00:29:45,085 --> 00:29:47,622 Obviously, he wanted to protect me. 478 00:29:57,298 --> 00:29:59,967 You sense this new confidence watching him. 479 00:30:00,401 --> 00:30:03,505 You know, the sex offender gets a hot shot to his crotch, 480 00:30:03,605 --> 00:30:06,574 the dope fiend gets hauled in with drugs all around him. 481 00:30:07,341 --> 00:30:09,076 He was showing his sense of humor. 482 00:30:09,176 --> 00:30:11,011 Let the punishment fit the crime. 483 00:30:11,111 --> 00:30:13,914 So as you'd expect, everybody on the force gave him a wide lane. 484 00:30:14,448 --> 00:30:16,751 On the one hand that it was his popularity, 485 00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:20,187 you knew you'd be shouted down even before you opened your mouth. 486 00:30:20,988 --> 00:30:23,290 But there was also this intimidation factor. 487 00:30:23,625 --> 00:30:27,762 Every time he flexed his muscles and ran someone down, he was reminding you, 488 00:30:27,861 --> 00:30:30,197 I'm stronger than you. I'm faster than you. 489 00:30:30,464 --> 00:30:32,066 Essentially, I'm unstoppable. 490 00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:34,034 And he didn't have to open his mouth. 491 00:30:34,134 --> 00:30:36,203 Warden never felt like the best 492 00:30:36,303 --> 00:30:39,473 use of his time was chasing drug pushers or any random street criminals. 493 00:30:39,774 --> 00:30:42,677 Here in Brazil, we say that's like trying to dry ice. 494 00:30:42,777 --> 00:30:44,579 Even when he tries going 495 00:30:44,679 --> 00:30:47,147 after organized crime, he's hitting the corner dealers, the triggerman, 496 00:30:47,549 --> 00:30:49,950 those street level guys go down, you've got another five 497 00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:51,720 replacing them in the next day. 498 00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:54,488 The fundamental problem stays. 499 00:30:54,823 --> 00:30:58,959 It's clear Warden is starting to think if this is the best use of his abilities. 500 00:30:59,059 --> 00:31:03,364 But this time there are people around Warden who have very strong ideas 501 00:31:03,464 --> 00:31:07,301 about what problems need to be solved and they have his attention. 502 00:31:08,837 --> 00:31:10,371 Warden had these 503 00:31:10,471 --> 00:31:13,808 relationships with the Nova Sao Paulo business community. 504 00:31:13,907 --> 00:31:17,812 The idea was since Warden didn't want to get paid by the government, 505 00:31:18,078 --> 00:31:21,949 they make donations to support his new Justice Initiative operation. 506 00:31:22,049 --> 00:31:25,152 There were a few examples where a company would bring him 507 00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:27,388 in to give a lecture to their employees. 508 00:31:28,972 --> 00:31:33,142 Earlier, in the lobby, someone was askingme what it was like to have superpowers. 509 00:31:33,143 --> 00:31:36,188 Which is a question I get a lot, as you can imagine. 510 00:31:37,648 --> 00:31:41,109 And I told him, “You work here. 511 00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:45,155 To me, coding in Python is a superpower.” 512 00:31:46,281 --> 00:31:48,408 And I'm serious. 513 00:31:49,076 --> 00:31:52,495 The world is full of peoplewith superpowers 514 00:31:52,496 --> 00:31:55,832 and we all have to answerthe same question: 515 00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,794 How can I use my power 516 00:31:59,795 --> 00:32:02,172 to give other people back their power? to give other people back their power? 517 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,178 I've spent the past yearserving this city. 518 00:32:08,929 --> 00:32:11,390 I've never hidden who I wasor what I wanted. 519 00:32:12,099 --> 00:32:14,475 I've also met many of you, 520 00:32:14,476 --> 00:32:16,603 Lots of you have the same questionI've been asking: 521 00:32:17,521 --> 00:32:20,815 How can we go on arrestingthe bad people, 522 00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:23,401 putting the peoplewho want to harm you behind bars, 523 00:32:23,402 --> 00:32:25,362 and yet nothing changes? 524 00:32:26,488 --> 00:32:30,367 The problem runs deeperthan a few criminals. 525 00:32:31,034 --> 00:32:33,495 The problem is a systemthat's been corrupted. 526 00:32:34,288 --> 00:32:38,207 It's a system of entrenched powerthat makes this city a paradise 527 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:43,964 for a few wealthy people like me, and makes it a hell for everyone else. 528 00:32:44,673 --> 00:32:47,383 We didn't create this system, 529 00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:49,093 but we've been living in it. 530 00:32:49,094 --> 00:32:51,680 And I'm going to help you break it. 531 00:32:56,185 --> 00:32:58,269 It was an offer to the city. 532 00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:02,106 - He'd sweep away the obstacles. - He'd cut the red tape. - He'd sweep away the obstacles. - He'd cut the red tape. 533 00:33:02,107 --> 00:33:04,109 - He'd be the bulldozer. - All on behalf of the people. 534 00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:06,527 But it didn't take long fora lot of people to decide they liked it. 535 00:33:06,528 --> 00:33:08,654 New arrests, this morning... 536 00:33:08,655 --> 00:33:10,907 ...A dramatic raid happened today... 537 00:33:10,908 --> 00:33:13,242 ...Was taken into custody for the third... 538 00:33:13,243 --> 00:33:16,747 ...Facing accusations that he was runninga human trafficking ring... 539 00:33:16,831 --> 00:33:20,300 All of a sudden, Warden was making these huge arrests. 540 00:33:20,535 --> 00:33:24,939 Was white collar, financial crime, criminal leaders, even politicians. 541 00:33:25,038 --> 00:33:28,275 All the people that you thought were untouchable. Falling like dominoes. 542 00:33:28,475 --> 00:33:33,180 They would show up at the courthouse, essentially gift wrapped with evidence 543 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,819 for the prosecutors to make their cases and cameras to get the public exciting. 544 00:33:38,151 --> 00:33:40,788 None of the evidence would hold up in court 545 00:33:40,889 --> 00:33:45,593 because it was collected extrajudicially and violated due process 546 00:33:46,026 --> 00:33:48,563 that only made Warden more popular. 547 00:33:48,663 --> 00:33:50,932 The defense lawyers weren't happy. 548 00:33:51,533 --> 00:33:54,468 The civil liberties groups cried bloody murder. But 549 00:33:54,569 --> 00:33:58,840 when the courts had to let these criminal big shots go free on technicalities 550 00:33:59,841 --> 00:34:02,242 that made Warden the hero 551 00:34:02,342 --> 00:34:04,779 and the legal system the villain. 552 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,283 He was saying, You've all complained about this for years now. 553 00:34:09,817 --> 00:34:12,820 Everybody stand back whilst I do something about it. 554 00:34:19,661 --> 00:34:21,295 It's an iron law 555 00:34:21,395 --> 00:34:23,598 in all times, in all places. 556 00:34:24,999 --> 00:34:27,367 It's extremely unwise 557 00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:32,006 to be rich and not befriend the authorities. 558 00:34:32,105 --> 00:34:34,909 Now, whenever you have one of these anti-corruption campaigns 559 00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:39,479 led by one person, one savior who's all about cracking down, 560 00:34:39,581 --> 00:34:40,949 all about putting that villain 561 00:34:41,049 --> 00:34:44,184 or handful of villains on stage for the public to hate 562 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,187 without passing laws 563 00:34:47,555 --> 00:34:51,993 that change the incentives that create the corruption in the first place. 564 00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:55,730 What you have is not an anti-corruption campaign. 565 00:34:56,263 --> 00:35:00,702 What you have is a pro your friends corruption campaign. 566 00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:05,138 Write it down. Take it to the bank. 567 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:08,241 Every time. 568 00:35:08,576 --> 00:35:10,277 You talk to him by then 569 00:35:10,377 --> 00:35:14,147 And it was millions of ideas all the time, like green speedways, 570 00:35:14,247 --> 00:35:17,384 bust these criminals disaster response system. 571 00:35:17,484 --> 00:35:19,988 He said his eyes were opening to the world. 572 00:35:20,387 --> 00:35:23,156 It was good to be with someone that cared so much. 573 00:35:23,558 --> 00:35:27,662 You know, he really thought he really believed that he could change the world. 574 00:35:29,396 --> 00:35:32,767 And the more his plans grew, the more the organization grew. 575 00:35:36,838 --> 00:35:39,974 He had the lawyers had the digital forensic team. 576 00:35:40,074 --> 00:35:42,644 He had the liaison to handle business with the city. 577 00:35:42,744 --> 00:35:46,514 He had the PR guy, all of them recommendation from his business friends, 578 00:35:46,614 --> 00:35:48,016 for what it's worth. 579 00:35:48,116 --> 00:35:51,184 The smart businesses started to make contributions 580 00:35:51,284 --> 00:35:53,755 to his justice initiative straight away. JUSTICE INITIATIVEOF NOVA SAO PAULO 581 00:35:53,988 --> 00:35:57,058 And there's a subtext to those payments. 582 00:35:57,157 --> 00:35:58,392 It's not settle. 583 00:35:58,492 --> 00:36:01,129 It's maybe don't look so closely at me. 584 00:36:15,308 --> 00:36:17,679 The buildings collapsed right at sunrise. 585 00:36:18,311 --> 00:36:20,347 I'd say that was the next phase. 586 00:36:20,138 --> 00:36:23,308 We're seeing a shockingscene of destruction. 587 00:36:23,725 --> 00:36:26,227 We've been told that policeand first-responders 588 00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,856 are on their way to the scene, but already neighbors are reporting... 589 00:36:28,956 --> 00:36:31,759 You know it was just this 590 00:36:31,859 --> 00:36:35,730 big empty eye sore that the owners wanted to replace 591 00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:38,166 with this city of tomorrow. 592 00:36:38,566 --> 00:36:41,869 And the City has just tied them up in court for years. 593 00:36:42,235 --> 00:36:44,772 citing historical preservation of the site. 594 00:36:44,872 --> 00:36:47,575 And it turns out that the owners had 595 00:36:47,675 --> 00:36:50,578 become big donors to Warden's Justice Initiative. 596 00:36:50,678 --> 00:36:54,115 So when the buildings come down, it looks like pretty clear 597 00:36:54,481 --> 00:36:57,819 that there's one group that has a financial stake in this 598 00:36:58,251 --> 00:37:00,420 and one person who could have done it for them. 599 00:37:01,789 --> 00:37:03,423 You know, you have this 600 00:37:03,524 --> 00:37:07,327 unauthorized demolition, this explosion in a residential area. 601 00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:10,998 You're going around the courts, around the whole legal process. RESIDENSTS SUFFER WITH THE DUST CLOUD. 602 00:37:11,398 --> 00:37:12,800 You have people in the neighborhood 603 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,937 getting sick from the chemicals this puts into the air. 604 00:37:16,704 --> 00:37:21,642 Most of us look to the State Attorney General, Romeu Filho. 605 00:37:21,743 --> 00:37:24,377 Everyone's waiting to see what he does ROMEUS THOMAS FILHO'S SILENCEIS CONCERNING. 606 00:37:26,514 --> 00:37:28,082 and he does nothing. 607 00:37:27,998 --> 00:37:31,626 The authorities are decliningto file any charges 608 00:37:31,627 --> 00:37:34,713 in connection with the destructionof the historic complex last month. 609 00:37:35,056 --> 00:37:38,492 So if you're keeping score, the people 610 00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:42,362 who go around the law: Warden and the owners. 611 00:37:43,296 --> 00:37:45,265 No charges against them. 612 00:37:45,365 --> 00:37:50,605 The people who call out the people who break the law, they get investigated. 613 00:37:51,205 --> 00:37:53,808 For me, that was "what the fuck" moment. 614 00:37:54,942 --> 00:37:56,677 I think anyone who reviewed the suits 615 00:37:56,778 --> 00:38:00,081 that the city filed to prevent the demolition as I had. 616 00:38:00,948 --> 00:38:04,018 Found them to be in bad faith and without merit. 617 00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:08,890 More than that, it's important to remember that our whole legal system exists 618 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:12,425 as a channel for the people's sense of justice and fairness. 619 00:38:12,727 --> 00:38:16,197 And when courts have thwarten what people understand to be justice, 620 00:38:16,664 --> 00:38:20,168 when they're undermining the public's confidence that the system works, 621 00:38:21,068 --> 00:38:23,004 then you have a problem. 622 00:38:24,471 --> 00:38:27,181 This is a man who'd always beenabsolutely by-the-book. 623 00:38:27,182 --> 00:38:28,266 Who had no problem 624 00:38:28,267 --> 00:38:32,311 going after the politicians, the big builders, everyone who was... 625 00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:33,813 supposed to be off-limits. 626 00:38:33,814 --> 00:38:36,191 And you'd talk to people who knew him. 627 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:40,528 They had no ideawhere this was coming from. 628 00:38:40,529 --> 00:38:43,782 Did Warden have something on him? 629 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,202 But they all said, even behind closed doors, 630 00:38:48,203 --> 00:38:51,915 Romeu Filho claims to believe inwhat he's doing. Nobody's forcing him, 631 00:38:52,875 --> 00:38:56,003 which somehow makes it more disturbing. 632 00:38:56,211 --> 00:39:01,592 At least you can understand someonewho's got a gun to his head. Right? At least you can understand someonewho's got a gun to his head. Right? 633 00:39:02,143 --> 00:39:04,178 Whatis the justice system for? 634 00:39:04,278 --> 00:39:07,915 If you can imagine the tribe of early humans coming back from a mammoth hunts. 635 00:39:08,316 --> 00:39:11,384 Yeah, they discover that somebody has committed a murder. 636 00:39:12,485 --> 00:39:17,258 The entire society is rattled in its anger and vendettas and distrust, 637 00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:20,161 and you need domestic order to be restored. 638 00:39:21,095 --> 00:39:25,032 That's what the job of the law is, to be our collective retribution. 639 00:39:26,067 --> 00:39:30,104 When you look at our system today, it's gotten so complex and so far removed 640 00:39:30,204 --> 00:39:35,243 from that basic, original purpose that bad actors know they can exploit it. 641 00:39:35,877 --> 00:39:38,279 The demolition case. 642 00:39:38,411 --> 00:39:41,315 They were just a small example, and Warden helped people 643 00:39:41,414 --> 00:39:44,819 see how they were standing in the way of the public interest. 644 00:39:45,219 --> 00:39:47,588 And that paved all the work we did. 645 00:39:47,688 --> 00:39:49,422 And I think that's a great thing. 646 00:39:49,523 --> 00:39:52,260 And that was essentially the way things were going to go. 647 00:39:52,459 --> 00:39:54,562 Warden would play the wrecking ball, WARDEN AND THE BIG BUILDERS 648 00:39:54,662 --> 00:39:58,332 Romeu Filho would play the legal bodyguard, and their friends would play by 649 00:39:58,431 --> 00:40:00,067 their own rules. 650 00:40:00,167 --> 00:40:02,603 Now, if you're a reasonable 651 00:40:02,703 --> 00:40:07,375 person or a reasonable business, you would look at that situation and say, 652 00:40:08,342 --> 00:40:10,443 I want to be Warden's friend. 653 00:40:11,045 --> 00:40:13,948 You started seeing changes right away. 654 00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:17,652 There's a wave of construction. The streets were cleaner. 655 00:40:17,752 --> 00:40:20,288 You're talking to people. They are telling you they feel safer. 656 00:40:20,379 --> 00:40:24,215 New figures from the state policerepresentatives out this morning 657 00:40:24,216 --> 00:40:26,384 showing a steep decline 658 00:40:26,385 --> 00:40:29,679 in Nova São Paulo'smurder rate this quarter. 659 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,182 The State Government attributing thatto improved economic conditions 660 00:40:33,183 --> 00:40:35,936 and “innovative crime prevention tactics.” 661 00:40:36,037 --> 00:40:37,805 It's all a powerful statement. 662 00:40:37,905 --> 00:40:41,342 You know, you have one person standing 663 00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:46,614 against all the old, creaky bureaucracy and red tape and he's winning. 664 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,884 So people pay attention to that. 665 00:41:03,297 --> 00:41:05,232 Thank you and thanks, guys. 666 00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:09,170 In a very short term, we've had some huge changes in Sao Paulo. 667 00:41:09,603 --> 00:41:13,240 We've seen some landmark arrests, which I think perhaps the very best 668 00:41:13,341 --> 00:41:17,078 investigators in your country will be just a little bit jealous of you. 669 00:41:17,511 --> 00:41:21,515 Yeah. You know, hopefully most of us don't have enemies. 670 00:41:21,615 --> 00:41:23,818 And I know I didn't when I was younger. 671 00:41:23,918 --> 00:41:27,888 But now when you start doing things that impact a lot of people, 672 00:41:28,289 --> 00:41:30,825 the enemies you make tell you a lot about who you are. 673 00:41:30,958 --> 00:41:35,763 So back when you started, there were some doubts, right? 674 00:41:35,863 --> 00:41:39,100 Were there? I hadn't heard. Okay. 675 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,035 So that's news to you. I know. 676 00:41:41,135 --> 00:41:44,238 At this point you'd hear things unofficially. 677 00:41:44,538 --> 00:41:49,543 Police chief gets advice to drop an investigation, journalist gets a story 678 00:41:49,643 --> 00:41:53,848 killed, a prosecutor gets reassigned, but nothing illegal. 679 00:41:54,782 --> 00:41:59,453 And nobody can come forward because they will know that somewhere 680 00:41:59,553 --> 00:42:03,624 along the chain of things that are there to stop bad things from happening. 681 00:42:03,724 --> 00:42:09,463 There's going to be someone who's afraid, corrupt or just plain not on their side. 682 00:42:09,988 --> 00:42:12,157 We invented this system. 683 00:42:12,407 --> 00:42:15,159 We did itso some lonely old lady gets to have a say 684 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,080 when a millionaire wants to decidewhat happens to her neighborhood. 685 00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:19,830 I'm the first to admit 686 00:42:19,831 --> 00:42:23,167 that the dialogue withe average citizencould very much piss you off, 687 00:42:23,168 --> 00:42:26,337 but this wasn't Wardenbringing balance to the system. 688 00:42:26,338 --> 00:42:29,883 This was Warden decidingwho gets justice and who doesn't. 689 00:42:30,092 --> 00:42:31,968 And who has to follow the rulesand who doesn't. 690 00:42:31,969 --> 00:42:33,595 There was no system. 691 00:42:34,972 --> 00:42:36,056 Just him. 692 00:42:38,267 --> 00:42:39,893 We had seen it before. 693 00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:43,647 We called them kings. 694 00:42:45,499 --> 00:42:48,769 Everything. All the criticism that I've heard of what I'm doing, it 695 00:42:48,869 --> 00:42:52,106 basically boils down to, well, what about the system? 696 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,275 Trust the system. 697 00:42:54,375 --> 00:42:57,678 The system wasn't representing people. What I am. 698 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,488 Now, at this point, 699 00:43:07,588 --> 00:43:10,024 if I'm Warden, I'm feeling pretty good. 700 00:43:10,124 --> 00:43:12,460 I got these circles of protection around me. 701 00:43:12,927 --> 00:43:17,031 So there's the real one, which is the politicians and the businessmen 702 00:43:17,131 --> 00:43:18,432 and the courts and the press people 703 00:43:18,533 --> 00:43:20,434 who are all letting Warden make his own rules. 704 00:43:20,968 --> 00:43:26,307 Then there's the people who've decided, I'm for them, I'm their champion, NATIONAL HERO 705 00:43:26,407 --> 00:43:29,176 and if I'm doing something dicey, they don't even want to hear about it. 706 00:43:29,276 --> 00:43:32,413 The feeling that Warden stoked in us. 707 00:43:33,114 --> 00:43:36,317 It was ancient. It's been with humans since the beginning. 708 00:43:36,750 --> 00:43:40,589 He was the demigod who held the world on his shoulders. 709 00:43:40,888 --> 00:43:45,226 He was the folk hero who went around the law to deliver justice 710 00:43:45,326 --> 00:43:48,295 and stick his thumb in the eyes of the powerful people. 711 00:43:49,063 --> 00:43:52,166 Someone like that, even when they're fundamentally different from us. 712 00:43:52,633 --> 00:43:55,269 There's this feeling that he is us. 713 00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:58,005 His struggles are our 714 00:43:58,105 --> 00:44:01,242 struggles and his enemies are our enemies. 715 00:44:01,675 --> 00:44:06,480 You know, every day it would be the rescues, the show, the handshake, 716 00:44:06,581 --> 00:44:11,418 the strategy session next week, next quarter, next targeted, next project. I'LL SEE YOU TODAY, THEN? 717 00:44:09,191 --> 00:44:12,319 TODAY IS HARD FOR ME... I'M SWAMPED.MY BAD... 718 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,388 It's hard to compete with that. 719 00:44:15,022 --> 00:44:16,857 You know, people felt connected to him. 720 00:44:16,957 --> 00:44:20,194 So I'm going into this with my eyes wide opened. 721 00:44:20,461 --> 00:44:24,331 And I decided to ask him if we could be officially out dating. 722 00:44:25,966 --> 00:44:30,137 And next day, his team calls me into his office. 723 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,645 And there's everyone lawyers, consultants, managers. 724 00:44:37,945 --> 00:44:41,882 And they all agreed that being out dating would be the worst thing possible. 725 00:44:43,518 --> 00:44:45,853 For me, obviously 726 00:44:45,769 --> 00:44:49,647 As a father, is there anything moreyou wish you could've done for him? 727 00:44:49,648 --> 00:44:53,442 Anything to prepare himfor the life he was entering into? 728 00:44:53,443 --> 00:44:56,487 I don't know anythingabout that kind of life. 729 00:44:56,488 --> 00:44:58,365 Actually, I don't think anybody does, 730 00:44:59,116 --> 00:45:00,325 except him. except him. 731 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,286 There's one thing I regret. 732 00:45:03,287 --> 00:45:07,416 It's not about teaching himto be a super, whatever. 733 00:45:09,042 --> 00:45:10,752 It's about being a man. 734 00:45:11,712 --> 00:45:14,840 The way I tried to be strongafter his mother died. 735 00:45:15,257 --> 00:45:17,384 And the way I was, after that. 736 00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:20,596 Alone, no relationships. 737 00:45:22,139 --> 00:45:24,432 I worry it taught him 738 00:45:24,433 --> 00:45:27,269 that love is... 739 00:45:28,103 --> 00:45:30,981 a kind of weakness. 740 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,469 the more the time passed, the bigger he got and the more 741 00:45:35,570 --> 00:45:42,276 the distance between the public figure and the man would disappear. 742 00:45:42,876 --> 00:45:48,583 There's a sense in which a superhero is just another kind of celebrity, 743 00:45:49,283 --> 00:45:53,854 and what celebrities and powerful people are really good at is creating 744 00:45:53,954 --> 00:45:58,792 these hermetically sealed universes where everyone loves you. 745 00:45:59,093 --> 00:46:01,862 And all the news is good news. 746 00:46:01,962 --> 00:46:05,099 In Warden's case, you take that celebrity bubble 747 00:46:05,399 --> 00:46:07,868 and you add years of reading about superheroes 748 00:46:08,402 --> 00:46:12,006 and their promises of power and hyper competency. 749 00:46:12,273 --> 00:46:14,942 And you've got someone whose life hasn't 750 00:46:15,042 --> 00:46:18,212 exactly been primed for committed relationships. 751 00:46:18,445 --> 00:46:20,682 So how come there's only one of you? 752 00:46:20,781 --> 00:46:24,351 I would have thought if we'd looked into your story of origin. 753 00:46:24,619 --> 00:46:27,656 We'd been cranking out at least a dozen more of you superheroes. 754 00:46:28,355 --> 00:46:32,259 Yeah, well, how do you know you wouldn't get a super villain? 755 00:46:48,075 --> 00:46:51,078 The show's ratings were still strong and getting stronger. 756 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,881 People want to know everything about him. 757 00:46:54,516 --> 00:46:57,985 You have gossip sites paying thousands of dollars 758 00:46:58,085 --> 00:47:02,557 for any whiff of information about who might be involved with Warden 759 00:47:03,057 --> 00:47:07,928 who went to lunch with him, who was seen leaving his apartment last night. WHO IS THE GIRL SEEN WITH WARDEN? 760 00:47:08,295 --> 00:47:10,164 But it was like a mirage. 761 00:47:10,264 --> 00:47:13,867 Any time you go too close to one of these stories, it would disappear. 762 00:47:15,502 --> 00:47:18,773 I never told anyone about us. 763 00:47:18,872 --> 00:47:21,710 He called it "the plan", and I was all in on it. 764 00:47:22,009 --> 00:47:24,178 It was our future. IT'S BEEN HARD... 765 00:47:24,278 --> 00:47:28,717 But most of the time, I just felt like he was gone and he was actually gone. YOU'RE NEVER HERE! 766 00:47:27,264 --> 00:47:31,393 I PROMISE YOU THINGS WILL BE BETTER. 767 00:47:28,817 --> 00:47:31,318 Like he would disappear for days. 768 00:47:31,418 --> 00:47:35,356 And when he'd show it up again, he'd apologize and apologize. 769 00:47:35,456 --> 00:47:39,126 Say how important everything he was doing was. 770 00:47:39,226 --> 00:47:43,230 Be romantic for a day, then get back to normal and then disappear again. 771 00:47:43,565 --> 00:47:47,968 There's a very clear difference and everybody figure it out pretty quickly. 772 00:47:48,369 --> 00:47:51,171 Investigating Warden's personal life is okay. 773 00:47:51,305 --> 00:47:53,608 He kind of dances with you. He likes the mystery 774 00:47:53,907 --> 00:47:57,144 investigating what was going on in Warden's professional life. I'D KILL FOR WARDEN. I'D KILL FOR WARDEN. 775 00:47:57,512 --> 00:48:01,215 Some of the things the city was doing, that's when you get the threats. 776 00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:04,686 How do you silence someone in the 21st century? 777 00:48:05,986 --> 00:48:08,723 It doesn't look like the old way. 778 00:48:09,156 --> 00:48:13,394 As humans, we hunt for patterns, we're told, all the time. 779 00:48:13,494 --> 00:48:15,563 History repeats itself, right? 780 00:48:15,663 --> 00:48:18,666 So we're very good at spotting 781 00:48:18,767 --> 00:48:22,202 the last threat to a free society. 782 00:48:22,771 --> 00:48:24,938 Book burnings. Canceled elections. 783 00:48:25,038 --> 00:48:27,809 Thugs marching in the street. No way. You're not going to slip that by us. 784 00:48:28,676 --> 00:48:31,945 But then we pour all our energy into convincing people 785 00:48:32,279 --> 00:48:35,850 that what we're seeing now is just like the last thing. 786 00:48:36,751 --> 00:48:41,955 Problem is when people realize, no, it's not just like the last thing 787 00:48:43,323 --> 00:48:45,426 they decide. It's not worth worrying about. 788 00:48:45,527 --> 00:48:50,297 So what we're not good at is spotting the next threat. 789 00:48:51,265 --> 00:48:54,401 These days, you don't need thugs going around knocking on people's doors. 790 00:48:55,035 --> 00:48:56,970 That's inefficient. It's ugly. 791 00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:58,807 You don't need to say a word. You're thugs. 792 00:48:58,907 --> 00:49:03,177 They don't even have to be your thugs. 793 00:49:03,277 --> 00:49:05,379 And I'll ask you one more question. 794 00:49:05,479 --> 00:49:07,849 Do you think about your limitations sometimes? 795 00:49:08,282 --> 00:49:11,151 Like there's something you just can accomplish no matter how 796 00:49:11,251 --> 00:49:13,688 strong or fast you are? 797 00:49:13,788 --> 00:49:15,355 No. 798 00:49:15,456 --> 00:49:18,560 No? No. Because I'm 799 00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:23,363 the least important part of what's happening in Nova Sao Paulo. 800 00:49:23,464 --> 00:49:26,366 It's not about what I've done. 801 00:49:26,467 --> 00:49:29,002 Everything I've accomplished will vanish overnight. 802 00:49:29,102 --> 00:49:33,273 Without this movement, these thousands of people, 803 00:49:33,741 --> 00:49:37,377 good people who know the difference between right and wrong 804 00:49:37,978 --> 00:49:40,682 and want to fight hard to make this 805 00:49:40,782 --> 00:49:44,586 a better place for all of us to live. 806 00:49:44,686 --> 00:49:48,857 In a way, people embraced Warden for the same reason they embraced 807 00:49:48,957 --> 00:49:52,760 superheroes during other periods of high social anxiety. In the U.S, 808 00:49:52,993 --> 00:49:55,730 you had superheroes going to war for America in the 1940s, 809 00:49:55,930 --> 00:49:58,900 and then they were protecting us from nuclear weapons during the Cold War. 810 00:49:58,999 --> 00:50:00,501 And then we saw them deployed 811 00:50:00,602 --> 00:50:03,103 as guardians looking out for us after September the 11th. 812 00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:07,909 Now, I think during periods of declining trust in institutions 813 00:50:08,108 --> 00:50:12,145 and a sort of societal unwinding like what was happening in Brazil, 814 00:50:12,647 --> 00:50:17,351 Warden looked to a lot of people like the solution. 815 00:50:17,392 --> 00:50:21,395 You know, some of these scholar typesraised important questions. 816 00:50:21,396 --> 00:50:24,106 but their political views 817 00:50:24,107 --> 00:50:27,777 were so far removed fromeverything Warden was doing, 818 00:50:27,778 --> 00:50:31,030 and everything people were hearing, that the message was getting lost. 819 00:50:31,031 --> 00:50:34,575 Warden getting shout-outs from thechiefs-of-state, and celebrities, 820 00:50:34,576 --> 00:50:36,577 his audience only got bigger. 821 00:50:36,578 --> 00:50:39,248 Everyone who mattered was for him. 822 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,126 Everyone who bothered to speak upwas for him. 823 00:50:43,669 --> 00:50:46,462 Getting rid ofthe Secretary of Public Security, 824 00:50:46,463 --> 00:50:50,759 I think, was part of the planto keep it that way. 825 00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:56,356 It's important to understand how police works in Brazil, there's two types. 826 00:50:57,257 --> 00:50:59,426 The military police who are responsible 827 00:50:59,527 --> 00:51:03,998 for patrolling the streets, enforcing laws, and the civil police 828 00:51:04,097 --> 00:51:07,635 who are mostly responsible for investigating crime. 829 00:51:07,902 --> 00:51:10,872 One might catch a criminal in the act 830 00:51:11,238 --> 00:51:15,242 and take him to the other for arrest and investigation. 831 00:51:15,342 --> 00:51:20,380 So dividing the responsibilities that you might find in another country's police department. 832 00:51:20,748 --> 00:51:25,252 But both sides answer to the state secretary of public security. 833 00:51:25,335 --> 00:51:26,878 Talks between Warden 834 00:51:26,879 --> 00:51:29,380 and the Nova São Paulo Governor, Romero Silva, 835 00:51:29,381 --> 00:51:31,174 have stalled over key provisions 836 00:51:31,175 --> 00:51:32,800 in a consent decree 837 00:51:32,801 --> 00:51:36,721 that would set rules onhow the superhero works 838 00:51:36,722 --> 00:51:38,640 with law enforcement agencies. 839 00:51:38,733 --> 00:51:41,168 There have been more complaints about Warden 840 00:51:41,268 --> 00:51:44,606 interfering with police work, costing them cases. 841 00:51:44,706 --> 00:51:49,142 So the Secretary of Public Security decided that he needed 842 00:51:49,242 --> 00:51:53,047 to get on the same page with Warden, and they need to get it in writing. 843 00:51:53,146 --> 00:51:57,619 So Warden's people go, sure, here are our terms. 844 00:51:58,035 --> 00:52:00,578 Sources familiar with the talks say Sources familiar with the talks say 845 00:52:00,579 --> 00:52:04,540 the sticking point was a demandby Warden that the current 846 00:52:04,541 --> 00:52:07,503 State Secretary of Public Securitystep down. 847 00:52:07,929 --> 00:52:11,298 His people didn't explain it, didn't try to convince anybody. 848 00:52:11,398 --> 00:52:14,802 It was just, here you go, take it or leave it. 849 00:52:15,594 --> 00:52:19,430 The former Secretary has hada 35-year career in public security 850 00:52:19,431 --> 00:52:23,100 and had a term marked by advancesin the war on crime in the state 851 00:52:23,101 --> 00:52:26,563 strengthening the relationship betweenthe police and community leaders. 852 00:52:26,814 --> 00:52:30,652 And none of that mattered when Warden wanted to get rid of him. 853 00:52:30,752 --> 00:52:35,155 If Warden was against someone, it didn't matter what his supporters thought before. RESIGN SECRETARY! 854 00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:37,625 Suddenly everyone was in lockstep. 855 00:52:37,725 --> 00:52:40,028 It was just like with Davi Lopes. 856 00:52:40,128 --> 00:52:42,362 Warden's concern. The concern of his team was 857 00:52:42,462 --> 00:52:46,366 that the Secretary became less interested in protecting the residents of this city 858 00:52:46,466 --> 00:52:50,104 and more interested in protecting himself and some shady interests. 859 00:52:50,705 --> 00:52:53,007 Warden's position was that the Governor should appoint 860 00:52:53,107 --> 00:52:55,009 Michel Borba as the new Secretary. 861 00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:57,979 Michel Borba was the head of the Cyber Crimes Unit, 862 00:52:58,378 --> 00:53:00,515 at the Warden's Justice Initiative. 863 00:53:00,615 --> 00:53:01,883 And Warden's 864 00:53:01,983 --> 00:53:04,351 argument, reasonably, was that 865 00:53:04,451 --> 00:53:07,021 his cybercrimes unit was pioneering the crime 866 00:53:07,121 --> 00:53:10,457 fighting technology that the police would use in the coming years. 867 00:53:10,725 --> 00:53:13,161 So why not put him in charge? It was simple. 868 00:53:14,027 --> 00:53:15,153 Michel Borba. 869 00:53:20,902 --> 00:53:24,072 So now Warden is asking for a voice in the political process. 870 00:53:24,172 --> 00:53:25,740 A very large voice. 871 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,442 And I can't blame the governor for listening. 872 00:53:28,543 --> 00:53:31,612 How do you go up against the most popular personality in the world 873 00:53:31,713 --> 00:53:34,549 who, by the way, uses violence professionally? 874 00:53:34,982 --> 00:53:37,819 The newest move from Warden has raised alarm from critics PRESSURE FOR BORBA BOTHERS THE GOVERNOR 875 00:53:37,919 --> 00:53:41,421 who warn that Brazil's justice system is bending to serve one man. 876 00:53:41,805 --> 00:53:45,392 representatives for Wardenwelcomed the Secretary's resignation, 877 00:53:46,018 --> 00:53:49,228 and said they expected the immediatenomination of Michel Borba 878 00:53:49,229 --> 00:53:52,064 emphasizing thatBorba will be impartial 879 00:53:52,065 --> 00:53:54,902 and instrumental in combattingthe violence in the city. 880 00:53:55,368 --> 00:53:58,539 At that point, I knew that if Warden wanted anything, 881 00:53:58,673 --> 00:53:59,674 he was going to get it. 882 00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:06,662 It's Hero Day. 883 00:54:06,663 --> 00:54:11,334 Big crowds expectedat Nova Paulista Avenue, 884 00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:15,964 and we're giving away four passesto the V.I.P. area... 885 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,563 The 19th of June. 886 00:54:24,699 --> 00:54:27,135 Essentially the whole city coming together 887 00:54:27,935 --> 00:54:31,572 for a big party, was going to be bigger than the last carnival. 888 00:54:31,939 --> 00:54:34,041 But this was was Warden's carnival. 889 00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:38,813 They were expecting hundreds and thousands of people. 890 00:54:41,916 --> 00:54:43,618 And then... 891 00:54:45,035 --> 00:54:46,661 Reports of one active shooter 892 00:54:46,662 --> 00:54:50,456 near the entrance to Nova Paulista Avenue, where the celebration 893 00:54:50,457 --> 00:54:51,791 for Hero Day are kicking off. 894 00:54:51,792 --> 00:54:54,919 Local authorities have confirmedmultiple injuries 895 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,337 and possibly deaths. 896 00:54:56,338 --> 00:55:00,300 Large crowds were expected in the area, so that toll is expected to rise. Large crowds were expected in the area, so that toll is expected to rise. 897 00:55:01,602 --> 00:55:04,505 I had never, ever seen him like he was that day. 898 00:55:09,143 --> 00:55:13,648 He said that he could feel himself losing control like he liked it when 899 00:55:14,615 --> 00:55:17,018 he killed that man. 900 00:55:17,118 --> 00:55:19,352 You couldn't stop saying I did this. 901 00:55:19,452 --> 00:55:21,055 He came after me. 902 00:55:21,155 --> 00:55:23,356 He blamed himself and he said it would never happen again. 903 00:55:26,426 --> 00:55:28,361 It was a young man who several years earlier 904 00:55:28,461 --> 00:55:32,200 had been removed from the police after a series of disciplinary problems. 905 00:55:34,367 --> 00:55:37,505 He seemed to have developed some kind of obsession with Warden. 906 00:55:39,339 --> 00:55:42,176 He killed 33 people in less than 2 minutes 907 00:55:42,877 --> 00:55:45,146 before a thankfully Warden could stop him. 908 00:55:47,281 --> 00:55:50,885 Immediately, people were asking questions. 909 00:55:50,985 --> 00:55:56,624 You know, there had been murders under Warden's watch, but this one was different. 910 00:55:57,424 --> 00:56:00,393 Mass shootings like these are not common in Brazil. 911 00:56:00,962 --> 00:56:03,097 And never on this scale and in broad daylight. 912 00:56:03,631 --> 00:56:05,233 The victims were families. 913 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,501 Kids. 914 00:56:10,787 --> 00:56:14,625 We continue to mourn the lossesin our community last month. 915 00:56:15,709 --> 00:56:17,627 Families of the victimsand members of the public 916 00:56:17,628 --> 00:56:21,756 have rightfully demanded answers. 917 00:56:21,757 --> 00:56:26,552 They've pointed outa troubling pattern of interactions 918 00:56:26,553 --> 00:56:29,138 between the alleged shooter 919 00:56:29,139 --> 00:56:33,101 and public officialsthat should be worthy of our trust. 920 00:56:33,977 --> 00:56:35,771 We're investigating. 921 00:56:36,605 --> 00:56:40,274 My office has beguna thorough investigation 922 00:56:40,275 --> 00:56:43,653 into any irregularitiessurrounding this action. 923 00:56:43,654 --> 00:56:48,158 And we are committed to bringing justicefor the victims and their families. 924 00:56:48,276 --> 00:56:51,512 There was a sense that Warden's enemies were lurking everywhere. 925 00:56:51,612 --> 00:56:56,284 They were in corporate boardrooms, the local newsrooms, but especially 926 00:56:56,384 --> 00:57:02,523 they were in government, he was sure, and his supporters especially were sure. 927 00:56:58,710 --> 00:57:05,717 THE SYSTEM THAT WON'T GIVE UP THE SYSTEM THAT WON'T GIVE UP 928 00:57:02,924 --> 00:57:05,893 But this was their way, his enemies way of 929 00:57:06,127 --> 00:57:09,830 of shaking their confidence in him, the sense that he was protecting. 930 00:57:10,131 --> 00:57:14,467 And I'll be honest with you, there was conspiracy theory from the other side 931 00:57:15,069 --> 00:57:18,005 that Warden had planned the attack WHY MANY THINKWARDEN PLANNED THE ATTACK? 932 00:57:18,105 --> 00:57:19,607 as a false flag operation, 933 00:57:19,707 --> 00:57:22,944 and he would use that panic to unleash the next phase of 934 00:57:24,312 --> 00:57:26,247 whatever he wanted. 935 00:57:28,416 --> 00:57:30,885 I think a lot of the wilder claims that my office 936 00:57:30,985 --> 00:57:35,323 was giving credence to conspiracy theories and so on, even at the time, 937 00:57:35,423 --> 00:57:38,693 it was fairly clear that those claims were advanced by people 938 00:57:38,793 --> 00:57:42,830 with a political agenda who wanted to discredit the justice system. 939 00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:47,001 What I saw from the vantage of my office was a series of troubling connections. 940 00:57:47,101 --> 00:57:50,571 Now, those connections may not have amounted to anything, 941 00:57:50,938 --> 00:57:55,142 but I was obligated to pursue the truth wherever it took me. 942 00:57:57,078 --> 00:58:00,081 I don't think he slept for a month. 943 00:58:00,181 --> 00:58:02,550 You know, he looked at the guy, the shooter, 944 00:58:02,650 --> 00:58:05,686 and he saw the whole system trying to defend itself. 945 00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:08,389 You know, like a disease body rejecting medicine. 946 00:58:09,156 --> 00:58:13,527 He said that he could finally understand how far they were willing to go 947 00:58:13,627 --> 00:58:16,564 and that he was going to fight back. 948 00:58:16,664 --> 00:58:18,032 Who benefits? 949 00:58:19,033 --> 00:58:20,167 Just smells funny. 950 00:58:20,267 --> 00:58:22,336 I'm just asking questions. 951 00:58:22,436 --> 00:58:25,272 Movies and TV and comic books 952 00:58:25,373 --> 00:58:29,977 have trained us for decades to look behind the scenes for the hidden hand. 953 00:58:30,644 --> 00:58:34,715 It just makes stories more interesting and it's perfect for our brains, CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND SUPERHEROSMEET EACH OTHER 954 00:58:35,883 --> 00:58:38,185 cause and effect patterns. 955 00:58:38,452 --> 00:58:42,690 If something happens, it's because someone wanted it to happen. 956 00:58:42,790 --> 00:58:44,025 Randomness, coincidences. 957 00:58:44,125 --> 00:58:45,826 There's nothing interesting about that. 958 00:58:45,926 --> 00:58:48,863 Oh, and if you don't see the patterns, if you think a coincidence 959 00:58:48,963 --> 00:58:54,035 is just a coincidence, there's an explanation for that. You're a sheep. 960 00:58:54,135 --> 00:58:57,905 And I asked him how he felt about the whole thing. DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY COULD HAVE... 961 00:58:58,339 --> 00:59:01,542 Did he actually think that these people were willing OF COURSE! OF COURSE! 962 00:59:00,541 --> 00:59:05,003 YOU ARE SO INNOCENT. 963 00:59:01,642 --> 00:59:04,912 to kill women and children just to make him look bad? 964 00:59:05,713 --> 00:59:08,182 And he said, I was naive, like used to be. 965 00:59:09,083 --> 00:59:12,253 And I honestly didn't know anything about corruption and I didn't know 966 00:59:12,353 --> 00:59:17,124 how far people were willing to go just to, you know, stop change. 967 00:59:17,858 --> 00:59:21,595 He said that he needed to be ready to go as far as they were. 968 00:59:22,930 --> 00:59:25,399 That was a shift in him. 969 00:59:25,399 --> 00:59:28,860 ...Chamber of Commercehas been distributing 970 00:59:28,861 --> 00:59:31,821 “We're with Warden” decals 971 00:59:31,822 --> 00:59:35,032 to small business ownerswho want to show their support 972 00:59:35,033 --> 00:59:38,078 in the wake of the shooting last week. 973 00:59:37,578 --> 00:59:40,181 The companies decided that they needed 974 00:59:40,281 --> 00:59:43,451 to signal that they were in the right side of the Warden issue. 975 00:59:43,552 --> 00:59:46,654 You saw the Warden sign in people's profile pictures. 976 00:59:46,787 --> 00:59:49,390 You saw the resignations at different companies. 977 00:59:49,590 --> 00:59:51,625 You could feel the temperature rising. 978 00:59:51,717 --> 00:59:54,594 THE DANGER OF WARDEN'S FANATICS 979 00:59:54,595 --> 00:59:58,055 I can't say if Warden wanted tosee me as... 980 00:59:58,056 --> 01:00:00,516 this enemy mastermindlurking behind the scenes. this enemy mastermindlurking behind the scenes. 981 01:00:00,517 --> 01:00:02,810 But that's what they made me. 982 01:00:02,811 --> 01:00:04,855 And all of a sudden, I'm being investigated. 983 01:00:06,398 --> 01:00:08,649 I leave it to Secretary Borba 984 01:00:08,650 --> 01:00:11,778 to run Public Securityin Nova São Paulo 985 01:00:12,571 --> 01:00:16,699 - As I think he's doing a great job. - Absolutely. 986 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:18,911 We support our police officers, 987 01:00:19,828 --> 01:00:22,080 but like anything that's been aroundfor a long time, 988 01:00:22,539 --> 01:00:25,876 sometimes you need to shake it upand get the dust off. 989 01:00:27,711 --> 01:00:30,588 You know, I tried to contact peopleI knew in the State Attorney's office. 990 01:00:30,589 --> 01:00:32,216 Honest people. 991 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:37,678 But by then everyone had all beenrelocated. Or some of them, 992 01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:41,432 it was like they woke up one dayand they were all in on what Romeu Filho 993 01:00:41,433 --> 01:00:43,351 and Warden were doing. 994 01:00:43,352 --> 01:00:46,938 There are reportsthat the ex-representative, Davi Lopes, 995 01:00:46,939 --> 01:00:52,361 has been seen around townaccompanied by armed thugs. 996 01:00:54,112 --> 01:00:58,700 Am I crazy to thinkthere's a message in that? 997 01:00:59,618 --> 01:01:03,288 I started to pay for securitybefore I left the House. I started to pay for securitybefore I left the House. 998 01:01:03,997 --> 01:01:07,416 There were the threats online, and on my phone, 999 01:01:07,417 --> 01:01:10,127 but the police assessedthat these were low-risk threats 1000 01:01:10,128 --> 01:01:12,672 from peoplewho weren't all that likely to act. 1001 01:01:12,673 --> 01:01:15,925 YOU MAGGOT. BEWARE!YOU'RE GONNA DIE. 1002 01:01:15,926 --> 01:01:18,178 Still, I'm not gonna lie. 1003 01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:21,347 It's hard when you've gotta sit there andlisten to somebody explain 1004 01:01:21,348 --> 01:01:24,350 the difference between a crazy personwho actually might kill you 1005 01:01:24,351 --> 01:01:27,270 and a crazy person that's too lazyto follow through 1006 01:01:27,271 --> 01:01:30,691 having to trust them to be right. 1007 01:01:31,759 --> 01:01:34,596 In these circles, there was this feeling 1008 01:01:35,162 --> 01:01:38,199 that the walls were closing in on the bad guys. 1009 01:01:39,066 --> 01:01:41,670 And it kept everything at this fever pitch. 1010 01:01:42,303 --> 01:01:46,006 There were these incidents where teachers, middle school or high school teachers 1011 01:01:46,473 --> 01:01:51,145 would say something that sounded skeptical of Warden 1012 01:01:51,245 --> 01:01:54,148 or some of the actions he seemed to be endorsing. 1013 01:01:54,683 --> 01:01:56,984 And some student would hear it posted on 1014 01:01:57,084 --> 01:02:00,821 social media and there would be a wave of harassment. 1015 01:02:01,755 --> 01:02:03,123 See, the Internet 1016 01:02:03,224 --> 01:02:06,393 was the perfect hothouse for these things to grow in. 1017 01:02:06,493 --> 01:02:09,196 Some of those teachers had to leave the city. 1018 01:02:10,231 --> 01:02:14,101 I can tell you the city felt tense in a way I'd never experienced before. 1019 01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:18,939 One day you'll see Warden walking down, shaking hands 1020 01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:22,776 and talking about how we're all cleaning this place up. 1021 01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:26,480 The next day, you'd see them fighting wildfires or rescuing people 1022 01:02:26,581 --> 01:02:30,184 in mudslides, just in case you forgot what he could do to you 1023 01:02:30,284 --> 01:02:33,087 if you didn't get with the program. 1024 01:02:37,626 --> 01:02:40,127 So at this time, every time you talk to him, 1025 01:02:40,227 --> 01:02:45,032 it would be about his enemies, his enemies in this radio station 1026 01:02:45,132 --> 01:02:48,402 or, you know, the office that's working against him and. 1027 01:02:49,638 --> 01:02:52,273 I really wanted to be on his side. 1028 01:02:52,373 --> 01:02:56,443 You know, I really wanted our relationship to be something apart from all of this. 1029 01:02:56,578 --> 01:02:59,313 And it was actually the point of keeping it a secret. 1030 01:02:59,547 --> 01:03:02,149 But at this point, I just feel like he's testing me. 1031 01:03:02,283 --> 01:03:05,587 He'd want to see my phone. He'd want to know who I was talking to. 1032 01:03:07,288 --> 01:03:08,822 And at some point 1033 01:03:08,922 --> 01:03:11,425 in the streets I started noticing some people following me. 1034 01:03:11,959 --> 01:03:14,729 So I went back home and I asked him ARE YOU SERIOUS? 1035 01:03:16,497 --> 01:03:19,567 and he said, Yes, it's for your own safety. WHAT? 1036 01:03:20,008 --> 01:03:24,929 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 1037 01:03:22,469 --> 01:03:24,905 That was the limit for me. 1038 01:03:25,005 --> 01:03:28,809 I told him he was turning into someone I didn't know and that he really needed THAT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. 1039 01:03:28,909 --> 01:03:32,046 to think if he wanted to keep going on a path 1040 01:03:30,018 --> 01:03:31,894 THEN WE SHOULD STOP RIGHT HERE. 1041 01:03:32,146 --> 01:03:36,917 that was making him so unhappy in that I definitely wasn't going with him STAY CALM. 1042 01:03:37,686 --> 01:03:40,755 and I didn't really see myself anywhere in here. 1043 01:03:42,022 --> 01:03:44,592 I always think it's ironic that when you have a leader 1044 01:03:44,693 --> 01:03:49,263 who sees plotters and coups everywhere, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. 1045 01:03:49,664 --> 01:03:51,198 And the more they lash out 1046 01:03:51,298 --> 01:03:53,934 at their imaginary enemies, the more real enemies they make. 1047 01:03:54,751 --> 01:03:57,044 I was basically alreadysort of enemy of the state. 1048 01:03:57,045 --> 01:03:58,713 So I was way out in the wilderness. 1049 01:03:58,714 --> 01:04:02,175 But that also made other peoplecome to me with their secrets. But that also made other peoplecome to me with their secrets. 1050 01:04:02,176 --> 01:04:04,343 Who was I gonna tell, right? 1051 01:04:04,344 --> 01:04:08,974 I thought that these people should knowabout each other. 1052 01:04:09,049 --> 01:04:11,385 I had been talking to Davi on background 1053 01:04:11,485 --> 01:04:14,988 and I told him about this conversation I had with a police officer. 1054 01:04:15,623 --> 01:04:19,059 He'd gotten a call and gone to the scene. 1055 01:04:20,861 --> 01:04:23,732 The suspect essentially 1056 01:04:24,865 --> 01:04:28,302 it been what I would describe as tortured and killed by Warden. 1057 01:04:29,036 --> 01:04:33,874 But the officer decides to investigate a little further and he realizes 1058 01:04:34,241 --> 01:04:36,477 and he has the proof 1059 01:04:36,578 --> 01:04:39,647 that Warden got the wrong guy. 1060 01:04:39,748 --> 01:04:42,517 It tortured and killed an innocent man. 1061 01:04:44,485 --> 01:04:48,422 It's just. Beyond words. 1062 01:04:49,691 --> 01:04:51,626 So the officer, you know, 1063 01:04:51,726 --> 01:04:54,294 does the paperwork, files the report 1064 01:04:54,863 --> 01:04:58,899 and his boss tells him to destroy all the evidence. 1065 01:05:00,067 --> 01:05:02,302 So he goes to his boss. His boss and. 1066 01:05:02,570 --> 01:05:07,341 And what they on this guy's table is a photo of him shaking hands with Warden. 1067 01:05:08,041 --> 01:05:12,913 So the officer takes one look at that photo and decides 1068 01:05:14,081 --> 01:05:16,417 it's clearly not safe for me to know what I know. 1069 01:05:18,586 --> 01:05:20,254 So I'm going to shut up. 1070 01:05:20,588 --> 01:05:23,558 It wasn't just police officers that were starting to talk. 1071 01:05:24,091 --> 01:05:29,029 It was like a handful of people in the State Attorney General's office, 1072 01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:34,435 a handful of people in the courts, a few teachers, a bunch of journalists. 1073 01:05:34,017 --> 01:05:37,229 FIND ALL DOCUMENTS ATTACHED. 1074 01:05:37,304 --> 01:05:39,741 At this point, everyone is communicating separately. 1075 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:44,879 There's this feeling of paranoia that if the wrong person 1076 01:05:44,978 --> 01:05:48,482 gets wind of this, something terrible could happen to you. 1077 01:05:49,082 --> 01:05:51,485 It's called the coordination problem. 1078 01:05:51,586 --> 01:05:55,155 Nobody wants to be the soldier that jumps out of a trench and gets gunned down. 1079 01:05:55,590 --> 01:05:58,025 But if everybody jumps out at the same time, 1080 01:05:58,125 --> 01:06:00,795 there's a decent chance that some of them will make it to the target. 1081 01:06:01,328 --> 01:06:05,700 The problem is, how do you know anybody's going to jump out with you, 1082 01:06:06,433 --> 01:06:09,604 especially when you don't even know who else is in the trench? 1083 01:06:10,179 --> 01:06:14,473 - We needed a lot of people. - And they needed to be in step on timing. 1084 01:06:14,474 --> 01:06:17,143 And I needed to knowI could trust everyone 1085 01:06:17,144 --> 01:06:20,981 because if this gets out, a lot of lives are over. 1086 01:06:21,081 --> 01:06:24,384 After I told Davi about this story. 1087 01:06:24,919 --> 01:06:28,989 He said to me, You know, there are other people who had similar stories. 1088 01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:31,559 I said, How many? 1089 01:06:31,659 --> 01:06:32,993 There were a lot. 1090 01:06:34,328 --> 01:06:35,496 He showed me a video, 1091 01:06:35,830 --> 01:06:40,334 something the Brazilian Hero producers tried to bury. 1092 01:06:40,434 --> 01:06:44,271 There's a man and he's taunting Warden 1093 01:06:45,439 --> 01:06:49,644 and Warden just snapped. Killed him. 1094 01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:58,285 I felt sick. 1095 01:07:01,271 --> 01:07:04,316 The message had to beimpossible to ignore. 1096 01:07:04,816 --> 01:07:08,028 We knew Warden was justgetting more powerful. 1097 01:07:11,064 --> 01:07:14,969 So I guess you could say I'm getting used to this superhero thing. 1098 01:07:15,068 --> 01:07:18,438 I've stopped some bad guys and helped to fix my hometown, 1099 01:07:18,706 --> 01:07:22,042 and I've learned more about my powers. 1100 01:07:22,376 --> 01:07:26,581 More importantly, I've gotten to connect with people. Still. 1101 01:07:26,981 --> 01:07:29,984 It's a funny thing being called a superhero all the time. 1102 01:07:30,852 --> 01:07:33,487 Maybe this is the year when everything changes. 1103 01:07:43,397 --> 01:07:46,099 I was in the front yard when my wife called out to me. 1104 01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:47,936 Turn the news on. 1105 01:07:48,201 --> 01:07:49,737 And I thought, oh, shit. 1106 01:07:49,837 --> 01:07:52,674 Disturbing images emerging today from what sources 1107 01:07:52,774 --> 01:07:54,943 and the prosecutor's office in Nova, Sao Paulo 1108 01:07:55,043 --> 01:07:58,913 say was an act of brutality carried out by Warden. 1109 01:07:58,996 --> 01:08:02,665 Emails obtained from sources in theNova Sao Paulo State Attorney's Emails obtained from sources in theNova Sao Paulo State Attorney's 1110 01:08:02,666 --> 01:08:07,795 reveal a policy of shelving investigationsabout Warden's crimes 1111 01:08:07,796 --> 01:08:11,675 creating an environmentwhere the laws don't apply. 1112 01:08:12,342 --> 01:08:15,095 A sophisticated scheme assembled to... 1113 01:08:14,629 --> 01:08:18,900 Guard the skeletons in Warden's closet, Literally and figuratively. 1114 01:08:25,138 --> 01:08:28,509 I walked away that morning. 1115 01:08:29,077 --> 01:08:30,845 You know, it comes to a point where 1116 01:08:30,945 --> 01:08:34,348 the whole thing that you've constructed, something gets inside 1117 01:08:34,448 --> 01:08:37,250 and it's just really easy to tear the whole thing down. 1118 01:08:38,553 --> 01:08:42,222 He had been calling me and texting me the whole day, but I wasn't answering. 1119 01:08:42,322 --> 01:08:46,794 So he showed up at my apartment, just furious that these people for, 1120 01:08:46,995 --> 01:08:50,632 you know, try and destroy him and at me for being on their side. 1121 01:08:52,499 --> 01:08:56,070 And I told him I was done and he didn't like that. 1122 01:08:56,470 --> 01:09:01,676 And honestly, that was. Scary. 1123 01:09:01,776 --> 01:09:04,512 He said that there were people trying to hurt me, that he was 1124 01:09:04,612 --> 01:09:06,914 the only one keeping me safe 1125 01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:10,918 and I wasn't saying anything. I was done. 1126 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,589 So he got really quiet 1127 01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:17,525 and he said, You're not a part of this anymore. 1128 01:09:18,425 --> 01:09:20,795 And then he just left. 1129 01:09:21,763 --> 01:09:23,831 Reports from Brazil that Warden has left 1130 01:09:23,931 --> 01:09:28,268 Nova Sao Paulo amid a wave of explosive allegations in recent days. 1131 01:09:28,368 --> 01:09:31,673 We knew immediately that this was the product of a sophisticated 1132 01:09:31,773 --> 01:09:36,144 media operation and there was really no effort to hide it or hide the agenda. 1133 01:09:38,846 --> 01:09:43,450 I think that people from Nova Sao Paulo saw right through it. I really do. 1134 01:09:44,384 --> 01:09:47,021 But the national media has its own imperatives. Right? 1135 01:09:48,056 --> 01:09:49,289 And they smell the story. 1136 01:09:49,356 --> 01:09:53,317 About the complaints that... 1137 01:09:53,318 --> 01:09:56,822 Warden's crime-fighting activitieshave devolved 1138 01:09:58,031 --> 01:10:02,286 into arbitrary justice, brutality, into arbitrary justice, brutality, 1139 01:10:02,703 --> 01:10:05,789 rigging of city institutions. 1140 01:10:06,748 --> 01:10:09,293 To me, this is... 1141 01:10:10,085 --> 01:10:11,545 "conspiracy" 1142 01:10:12,171 --> 01:10:14,798 of the corrupt and bureaucratic 1143 01:10:15,174 --> 01:10:19,052 who want to take our heroof their activities. 1144 01:10:21,054 --> 01:10:26,559 The reality is this guyhas the hardest job in the world, 1145 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:31,481 You are there on the couch judging. 1146 01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:35,110 Let the man work. 1147 01:10:35,485 --> 01:10:38,196 And I think the people stand with Warden. 1148 01:10:38,197 --> 01:10:41,449 They stand with this campaignto tear down bureaucracy 1149 01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:44,368 and make our institutions work again. 1150 01:10:44,369 --> 01:10:49,457 And any attempt to underminewhat the people of this city want. 1151 01:10:49,458 --> 01:10:54,963 I believe that no authority would be ableto control the wrath it'd cause. 1152 01:10:59,510 --> 01:11:03,180 People did pay attention. So it worked. People did pay attention. So it worked. 1153 01:11:03,722 --> 01:11:05,806 But they didn't all agree. 1154 01:11:05,807 --> 01:11:07,350 There's going to bea congressional investigation. 1155 01:11:07,351 --> 01:11:09,310 But Warden had cultivatedso many politicians, 1156 01:11:09,311 --> 01:11:13,105 they couldn't make anything happenin the House or the Senate. 1157 01:11:13,106 --> 01:11:17,318 The President decliningto take action against Warden, 1158 01:11:17,319 --> 01:11:21,156 saying it's a matter for stateand local authorities... 1159 01:11:21,490 --> 01:11:24,450 And all this time, Warden is gone. 1160 01:11:24,451 --> 01:11:28,204 - No statement from his publicist. - No tweets from his producers. 1161 01:11:28,205 --> 01:11:30,498 - He stops showing up for work. - It was a stalemate. 1162 01:11:30,499 --> 01:11:32,876 So, there were consequences. 1163 01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:36,963 But they were all coming down on us. 1164 01:11:36,964 --> 01:11:40,383 New developmentsin the Bandeirantes Palace this morning, 1165 01:11:40,384 --> 01:11:43,094 where the governor and authoritiesmet overnight 1166 01:11:43,095 --> 01:11:46,138 to discuss potential action on Warden, 1167 01:11:46,139 --> 01:11:50,102 in what were reportedly bitter talksthat lasted until morning. 1168 01:11:50,644 --> 01:11:53,563 At this hour, the Superior Court of Justice is issuing 1169 01:11:53,564 --> 01:11:57,358 the search and seizure warrantfor the Justice Initiative building 1170 01:11:57,359 --> 01:12:02,738 as part of the investigations for murder, assault, and obstruction of justice as part of the investigations for murder, assault, and obstruction of justice 1171 01:12:02,739 --> 01:12:05,074 of Daniel Dias, also known by the name Warden. 1172 01:12:05,075 --> 01:12:08,911 The governor has issuedthe following statement: 1173 01:12:08,912 --> 01:12:11,914 “The citizen known as Warden 1174 01:12:11,915 --> 01:12:15,751 has come to represent justiceand security for all of us. 1175 01:12:15,752 --> 01:12:18,504 Now, Warden has an opportunityto show us 1176 01:12:18,505 --> 01:12:20,339 that he believes in those ideals 1177 01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:22,592 by facing trialfor the serious offenses 1178 01:12:22,593 --> 01:12:25,762 documented by our authorities. 1179 01:12:28,716 --> 01:12:34,454 7:14 a.m... A search warrant was issued for the Justice Initiative Building. 1180 01:12:34,555 --> 01:12:38,526 At 7:20, the military police deployed its forces to 1181 01:12:38,626 --> 01:12:40,728 Sao Paulo to take him into custody. 1182 01:12:40,986 --> 01:12:42,737 WARDEN IS UNDER POLICE CROSSHAIRS 1183 01:12:42,738 --> 01:12:45,490 I was informed that this city mustbe prepared for an assault. 1184 01:12:45,991 --> 01:12:49,077 An unprecedented assaultsince the birth of our democracy. 1185 01:12:50,787 --> 01:12:54,290 You're seeing imageswhere the first thousands of policemen 1186 01:12:54,291 --> 01:12:56,960 are deployingtoward the downtown area. 1187 01:12:57,085 --> 01:13:00,046 Their orders: To seizeand enter the Justice Initiative Their orders: To seizeand enter the Justice Initiative 1188 01:13:00,047 --> 01:13:02,257 with a search and seizure warrant. 1189 01:13:04,718 --> 01:13:07,595 What the politicians, who've now shown 1190 01:13:07,596 --> 01:13:10,974 they're willing to use violenceto subvert the will of the people. 1191 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,896 What the politicians don't see is thatthey are the ones who've unleashed forces 1192 01:13:16,146 --> 01:13:18,357 they can't no longer control. 1193 01:13:19,066 --> 01:13:21,359 Romeu Filho was already talkinglike a populist 1194 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,529 and not as the State Attorney Generalof Nova São Paulo. 1195 01:13:24,530 --> 01:13:27,114 Large crowds beginning to formthis morning, 1196 01:13:27,115 --> 01:13:29,535 in anticipation of the police's arrival. 1197 01:13:29,952 --> 01:13:33,455 They've gathered around Warden'sJustice Initiative building access areas 1198 01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:36,625 as a kind of human shieldto prevent the troops from entering... 1199 01:13:37,376 --> 01:13:39,585 The governor's office, meanwhile, 1200 01:13:39,586 --> 01:13:43,005 announced that they are in contactwith the Ministry of Justice 1201 01:13:43,006 --> 01:13:45,591 for a possible deploymentof the National Security Force 1202 01:13:45,592 --> 01:13:46,552 in the city. 1203 01:13:48,762 --> 01:13:52,014 The governor thinks he can decide for you. 1204 01:13:52,015 --> 01:13:55,142 The media think they can decide for you. 1205 01:13:55,143 --> 01:13:58,730 Are you going to let themtake away your city in a fight? 1206 01:13:58,806 --> 01:14:02,343 The police had assembled their forces along a two kilometer 1207 01:14:02,442 --> 01:14:06,180 perimeter around a building sort of sending a message like, 1208 01:14:06,614 --> 01:14:09,283 look, we are serious, but we don't have to do this. 1209 01:14:11,652 --> 01:14:13,888 That's when Warden showed up. 1210 01:14:13,988 --> 01:14:17,658 This was the first time anybody had seen him since the story came out, 1211 01:14:19,209 --> 01:14:23,255 You're here to do your jobs, and that's good. 1212 01:14:23,922 --> 01:14:26,216 That's what we need. 1213 01:14:26,592 --> 01:14:29,970 But I promised all those people back therethat I'd do my job, too. 1214 01:14:31,471 --> 01:14:34,933 And I'm sorry your governordoesn't respect what they want. 1215 01:14:35,767 --> 01:14:41,356 But I do. So my offer to the governorand the justice is this: 1216 01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:44,693 If you leave, then we're all good. 1217 01:14:46,236 --> 01:14:50,823 But if you keep going andand choose to clash with people 1218 01:14:50,824 --> 01:14:55,579 who defend better days, we're not onthe same side anymore. 1219 01:14:57,664 --> 01:15:00,625 What happens after that, that's on your head. What happens after that, that's on your head. 1220 01:15:00,626 --> 01:15:03,378 An ultimatum from Warden to the Governor. 1221 01:15:03,712 --> 01:15:06,131 We're expecting a responsewithin the hour. 1222 01:15:06,548 --> 01:15:08,425 We knew it could come to this point. 1223 01:15:09,676 --> 01:15:12,762 And that maybe it had to happen. 1224 01:15:12,763 --> 01:15:15,349 But in that moment... 1225 01:15:16,558 --> 01:15:19,268 I just wanted it all to stop. 1226 01:15:19,269 --> 01:15:20,896 I wanted everything to go back to normal. 1227 01:15:22,564 --> 01:15:24,065 It didn't. 1228 01:15:24,066 --> 01:15:27,568 Word from the commanding officersaying their orders have not changed. 1229 01:15:27,569 --> 01:15:28,778 They are advancing towards 1230 01:15:28,779 --> 01:15:31,697 the Justice Initiativeand they are prepared 1231 01:15:31,698 --> 01:15:35,369 to hold it until the warrantis executed by the agents 1232 01:15:35,803 --> 01:15:37,371 In his mind. 1233 01:15:37,805 --> 01:15:40,141 This is the ultimate battle, 1234 01:15:38,830 --> 01:15:43,710 WARDEN'S ULTIMATE 1235 01:15:40,241 --> 01:15:41,809 good versus evil. 1236 01:15:41,909 --> 01:15:44,412 He's defending his city. 1237 01:15:44,513 --> 01:15:47,014 This is what superheroes do. 1238 01:15:47,381 --> 01:15:51,952 The police basic doctrine was we acknowledge 1239 01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:56,457 that any one officer, any hundred is no match for Warden. 1240 01:15:56,891 --> 01:15:58,559 But he can't be everywhere at once. 1241 01:15:58,659 --> 01:16:02,463 So we're going to advance and presume that he is not going 1242 01:16:02,563 --> 01:16:06,300 to start a bloodbath with thousands of civilian lives on the line. 1243 01:16:07,168 --> 01:16:09,603 And we're going to dare him to fire the first shot. 1244 01:16:11,272 --> 01:16:12,440 He accepted. 1245 01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:17,111 I didn't think 1246 01:16:17,546 --> 01:16:20,114 whether it was safe from the studio. 1247 01:16:21,015 --> 01:16:25,352 It was just these words repeating over and over "just get through it". 1248 01:16:25,453 --> 01:16:27,288 "just get through it" 1249 01:16:27,388 --> 01:16:29,924 It takes 2 hours for the Army to take the first block. 1250 01:16:30,024 --> 01:16:32,426 Fighting continues to rage in Nova Sao Paulo. 1251 01:16:32,527 --> 01:16:36,630 Well, after dark, the White House issuing a statement urging all sides. 1252 01:16:37,898 --> 01:16:39,700 It was taking its toll. 1253 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,670 A big toll was police against civilians. 1254 01:16:42,770 --> 01:16:46,974 Warden was doing damage but trying to avoid a body count. 1255 01:16:47,074 --> 01:16:51,045 Shocking images of violence in the streets of Nova Sao Paulo as residents 1256 01:16:51,145 --> 01:16:54,181 gathered as an act of protest that appears to have descended into violence. 1257 01:16:54,281 --> 01:16:56,050 This brawl. 1258 01:16:56,484 --> 01:16:59,086 People in masks just tearing into each other. 1259 01:16:59,328 --> 01:17:01,704 We have reports of conflictbetween the population We have reports of conflictbetween the population 1260 01:17:01,705 --> 01:17:05,208 and police forces around the city. 1261 01:17:05,209 --> 01:17:08,629 The governor is urging all residentsto stay indoors. 1262 01:17:08,729 --> 01:17:10,698 As bad as it was for the police. 1263 01:17:10,798 --> 01:17:13,467 They're taking territory, they're holding it, 1264 01:17:13,734 --> 01:17:16,137 and they're pacifying the civilian population. 1265 01:17:16,504 --> 01:17:20,141 Finally that evening, they have a tight cordon around Warden's 1266 01:17:20,241 --> 01:17:24,044 building and more police units mobilizing. 1267 01:17:24,245 --> 01:17:25,813 He's surrounded. 1268 01:17:25,913 --> 01:17:27,214 He's not going anywhere. 1269 01:17:27,314 --> 01:17:29,683 Now, this is the dilemma. 1270 01:17:30,151 --> 01:17:31,752 There's only one way into that building. 1271 01:17:31,818 --> 01:17:33,819 POLICE SURROUND JUSTICE INITIATIVE 1272 01:17:32,853 --> 01:17:36,991 And the police know that they're not going in there without losing VIOLENCE, LOOTING CONTINUESIN NOVA SAO PAULO 1273 01:17:37,592 --> 01:17:41,061 hundreds of troops and possibly more civilians. 1274 01:17:41,195 --> 01:17:44,832 They're not going to be able to arrest Warden. It's a siege. 1275 01:17:45,699 --> 01:17:48,002 And the plan was to see how far Warden would go. 1276 01:17:49,002 --> 01:17:51,712 We're here next tothe Justice Initiative building 1277 01:17:51,713 --> 01:17:54,424 minutes after the startof negotiations. 1278 01:17:54,509 --> 01:17:56,611 And now you've got pressure on the Governor. 1279 01:17:56,844 --> 01:17:58,613 You've got the President calling. 1280 01:17:58,712 --> 01:18:02,016 You've got casualties, damage in the water and power 1281 01:18:02,116 --> 01:18:05,520 supplies, the possibility of unrest in other cities. ATTENTIONBLOCKED STREETS 1282 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,889 Everything is pushing toward a fast resolution. 1283 01:18:08,989 --> 01:18:13,260 And I think it occurred to a lot of people, especially around Warden, 1284 01:18:14,061 --> 01:18:16,565 that times like these times of crisis 1285 01:18:17,364 --> 01:18:20,868 are when you get to make the big changes to your wish list. 1286 01:18:20,968 --> 01:18:22,236 Warden did his part 1287 01:18:23,304 --> 01:18:26,307 and he faced those policemen, thousands of them, outside his building, 1288 01:18:26,740 --> 01:18:30,244 and he made it clear that he wasn't going to abandon his city. 1289 01:18:30,579 --> 01:18:33,615 My job was to make sure that this incursion 1290 01:18:34,248 --> 01:18:36,383 didn't turn into facts on the ground. 1291 01:18:36,466 --> 01:18:39,719 Sources are saying the governor'soffice has brokered a deal 1292 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,515 with Warden through the State AttorneyRomeu Thomas Filho, in which 1293 01:18:44,516 --> 01:18:49,228 it has acceded to the superhero's demandsto withdraw all forces immediately. 1294 01:18:49,229 --> 01:18:50,772 We're havinga press conference later. 1295 01:18:50,864 --> 01:18:52,601 This was the deal. 1296 01:18:53,033 --> 01:18:56,571 The state would withdraw all of its emergency forces out of the city 1297 01:18:57,204 --> 01:19:00,174 and the state will allow the city to govern its affairs in accordance 1298 01:19:00,274 --> 01:19:02,776 with the wishes of the people who lived here. 1299 01:19:03,043 --> 01:19:05,446 That meant holding a vote, a plebiscite. 1300 01:19:05,879 --> 01:19:09,684 The people from Nova Sao Paulo would decide whether to investigate Warden 1301 01:19:09,917 --> 01:19:13,854 or give him the legal tools he needed to best serve the city 1302 01:19:14,121 --> 01:19:15,690 and to the rest of the country. 1303 01:19:15,789 --> 01:19:17,458 It was a statement We want our business, you mind yours 1304 01:19:17,382 --> 01:19:19,927 PLEBISCITE TO DECIDETHE FUTURE OF THE CITY 1305 01:19:20,060 --> 01:19:22,963 and by our example we'll show you that we've got the better way. 1306 01:19:23,063 --> 01:19:24,798 Voters in Nova Sao Paulo 1307 01:19:24,898 --> 01:19:28,269 They'll decide whether to grant Warden sweeping new powers or leave 1308 01:19:28,369 --> 01:19:29,970 the justice system intact. 1309 01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:32,172 Warden has promised to abide by the result, 1310 01:19:32,273 --> 01:19:36,578 even if a no vote would force him to face prosecution by the state government. 1311 01:19:33,315 --> 01:19:36,818 VOTE "YES" FOR WARDEN 1312 01:19:42,824 --> 01:19:44,243 It was a surrender. 1313 01:19:45,035 --> 01:19:47,246 The vote never stood a chance. 1314 01:19:47,496 --> 01:19:49,414 What the voters, 1315 01:19:50,874 --> 01:19:53,293 the ones who were allowed to cast votes, 1316 01:19:55,045 --> 01:19:57,297 decided was to pass two laws 1317 01:19:57,506 --> 01:20:03,135 One giving Warden legal immunityfrom any harm to life, One giving Warden legal immunityfrom any harm to life, 1318 01:20:03,136 --> 01:20:07,307 or property caused in the course of hislaw-enforcement activities. So he can't 1319 01:20:07,641 --> 01:20:11,061 face consequences for killing someone. 1320 01:20:11,436 --> 01:20:14,940 The other, giving him the powerto suspend any law 1321 01:20:16,358 --> 01:20:18,818 that he believes is interferingwith his work. 1322 01:20:18,819 --> 01:20:24,825 THANKS WARDEN FOR SAVING NOVA SPFROM THE CRIMINALS 1323 01:20:20,454 --> 01:20:24,358 There's this thing that a lot of us think that the king, 1324 01:20:24,925 --> 01:20:28,429 the emperor, just marches up to the throne and says, I'm in charge now. 1325 01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:31,065 But that's not true. 1326 01:20:31,165 --> 01:20:33,067 That's not how it happens. 1327 01:20:33,167 --> 01:20:37,639 The first Roman emperor was given his powers one at a time 1328 01:20:37,871 --> 01:20:43,177 by the Senate to save the republic. 1329 01:20:43,277 --> 01:20:45,446 They didn't even call him the emperor. 1330 01:20:45,547 --> 01:20:47,948 They called him the Princeps. 1331 01:20:48,048 --> 01:20:50,518 It meant first citizen. 1332 01:20:50,851 --> 01:20:53,788 On the surface, it was the status quo. WARDEN AND SECRETARY BORBA MEETTO DISCUSS PLANNED REFORMS. 1333 01:20:54,355 --> 01:20:58,058 But behind the scenes, Warden had been given a state within a state, 1334 01:20:58,992 --> 01:21:00,595 he could run things his way. 1335 01:21:00,695 --> 01:21:03,197 Whatever that meant on any given day, and anybody who didn't like 1336 01:21:03,297 --> 01:21:05,633 could just get the hell out. 1337 01:21:07,134 --> 01:21:09,370 I left as soon as the fighting stopped. 1338 01:21:10,839 --> 01:21:14,108 It felt like witness protection, 1339 01:21:14,542 --> 01:21:18,445 you know, new city, new home, new friends. 1340 01:21:19,179 --> 01:21:22,617 And I know that if he wants to, he'll find me or it'll be someone 1341 01:21:22,717 --> 01:21:25,687 he doesn't even know who wants to be part of the movement. But. 1342 01:21:27,421 --> 01:21:30,891 I wanted to tell the truth first. 1343 01:21:47,991 --> 01:21:49,243 And that was it. 1344 01:21:53,872 --> 01:21:55,791 Nova Sao Paulo is my home. 1345 01:21:59,336 --> 01:22:03,674 My daughter. My wife. My daughter. My wife. 1346 01:22:04,675 --> 01:22:06,718 I know them very well. 1347 01:22:09,346 --> 01:22:12,307 I'm just not sureif I know my home anymore. 1348 01:22:14,101 --> 01:22:17,539 I have been told the execs from our parent company were flying 1349 01:22:17,639 --> 01:22:22,342 in the next morning to meet with my producers , so I knew that wasn't good. 1350 01:22:22,911 --> 01:22:26,180 People were already trying to get me off the air. 1351 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,015 I was a liability. 1352 01:22:28,115 --> 01:22:30,552 And with the meeting happening, 1353 01:22:31,151 --> 01:22:35,956 I pretty much knew that night would be my last broadcast. 1354 01:22:36,758 --> 01:22:38,893 They were shooting right at the messenger. 1355 01:22:38,992 --> 01:22:43,865 So I received a call from my boss in the UK headquarters. 1356 01:22:44,566 --> 01:22:48,870 So very polite conversation wherein I was informed 1357 01:22:49,503 --> 01:22:54,876 that the owners had essentially terminated 1358 01:22:55,242 --> 01:22:58,412 the whole newsroom in Brazil, effective immediately. 1359 01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:04,218 You look at the news coverage since we left, I think Warden's been pretty happy. THE NEW ORDER THE NEW ORDER 1360 01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:07,956 Warden was about controlling the message. But look 1361 01:23:09,289 --> 01:23:11,826 Yeah. What's that line? 1362 01:23:12,292 --> 01:23:14,995 Democracy is the theory that. 1363 01:23:16,296 --> 01:23:18,600 People know what they want 1364 01:23:18,700 --> 01:23:23,036 and deserve to get it good and hard. 1365 01:23:25,773 --> 01:23:29,009 I think people. Got what they asked for. 1366 01:23:36,283 --> 01:23:39,621 I was very proud of the work I done as a state attorney general. 1367 01:23:40,487 --> 01:23:42,256 But after speaking with Warden, 1368 01:23:42,356 --> 01:23:45,192 we came to the conclusion that I would best serve the city as Mayor. 1369 01:23:45,793 --> 01:23:48,362 And fortunately, people agreed. ROMEU FILHO ELECTEDWITH 70% OF THE VOTES 1370 01:23:48,462 --> 01:23:52,065 And I think all the work we did speaks for itself. 1371 01:23:53,801 --> 01:23:55,302 There's no denying that. 1372 01:23:55,402 --> 01:23:58,606 Nova Paulo, the city that Romeu Filho and Warden 1373 01:23:58,706 --> 01:24:01,041 are building will impress you. 1374 01:24:02,075 --> 01:24:04,378 It wants to impress you. 1375 01:24:04,913 --> 01:24:07,649 Its skyline is its own message. 1376 01:24:07,749 --> 01:24:10,450 Look at what we can do. 1377 01:24:10,552 --> 01:24:13,287 It's one part Singapore, one part Sparta. 1378 01:24:13,922 --> 01:24:16,591 In this state of perpetual high alert, 1379 01:24:16,991 --> 01:24:21,663 looking every day for attacks from without and traitors from within. 1380 01:24:21,763 --> 01:24:24,732 There it is. He has his city. 1381 01:24:25,332 --> 01:24:27,869 He enforces the law his way. 1382 01:24:28,770 --> 01:24:33,073 Frankly, I think it's the perfect expression of what a superhero is. 1383 01:24:33,741 --> 01:24:36,109 A lot of it, you'll recognize, looks the same. 1384 01:24:36,209 --> 01:24:39,079 But there's an iron curtain. 1385 01:24:39,179 --> 01:24:43,317 You don't get a lot of news that's real. You get rumors. 1386 01:24:43,751 --> 01:24:47,354 Now, Warden is doing less and less public appearances. 1387 01:24:47,454 --> 01:24:49,489 He is spending more time alone. 1388 01:24:49,591 --> 01:24:52,994 He's angrier. He's paranoid. 1389 01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:55,462 He sees enemies and rats everywhere. 1390 01:24:55,563 --> 01:24:58,666 Ever since people came forward about him. 1391 01:24:58,766 --> 01:25:02,135 Now, if you live in Nova Sao Paulo, 1392 01:25:02,604 --> 01:25:05,773 you're going to think twice before criticizing Warden. 1393 01:25:05,873 --> 01:25:07,775 And if you read anything about the city, 1394 01:25:07,875 --> 01:25:10,845 it's because Warden allowed it to be published. 1395 01:25:11,278 --> 01:25:14,782 Anything else gets branded a conspiracy theory and shouted down. 1396 01:25:15,550 --> 01:25:18,686 So the truth is getting murkier and murkier, 1397 01:25:19,787 --> 01:25:24,559 and the collective sense of reality is slipping away. 1398 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,755 Warden, you're filminganother season of your show, correct? 1399 01:25:30,923 --> 01:25:33,424 That's right. Especially after everythingthat's happened, 1400 01:25:33,425 --> 01:25:37,261 with all the lies out there, I think it's important 1401 01:25:37,262 --> 01:25:39,806 to be able to speak directlyto the people. 1402 01:25:40,516 --> 01:25:42,434 - That sounds good.-Yes. 1403 01:25:43,435 --> 01:25:47,689 Yeah, you know. I've been thinking a lotabout the comics I used to read. 1404 01:25:48,649 --> 01:25:52,778 You'd always have this supervillainwho's fighting the hero. 1405 01:25:54,321 --> 01:25:56,365 But in real life, it's not that simple. 1406 01:25:57,407 --> 01:26:00,744 Sometimes it's the lie that's the villain. Sometimes it's the lie that's the villain. 1407 01:26:01,662 --> 01:26:04,038 Sometimes it's the system. 1408 01:26:04,632 --> 01:26:07,769 You hear his obsessed with his legacy. AND NOW, WHAT'S NEXT? 1409 01:26:07,869 --> 01:26:10,905 He needs to know what comes after him. 1410 01:26:11,005 --> 01:26:12,840 You hear about researchers. 1411 01:26:12,940 --> 01:26:17,679 He has them doing experiments trying to duplicate whatever made him 1412 01:26:17,779 --> 01:26:20,280 everything he swore not to do. 1413 01:26:20,380 --> 01:26:26,020 Criminals. Suspects disappear, but 1414 01:26:26,954 --> 01:26:30,692 We don't know that. Romeu Filho keeps it under guard 1415 01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:33,861 the new way can't be wrong. 1416 01:26:34,696 --> 01:26:36,396 It's still too much to gain for the winners. 1417 01:26:36,496 --> 01:26:40,802 So the message from everyone every day, business, news 1418 01:26:41,201 --> 01:26:42,737 is that the city is thriving. 1419 01:26:42,837 --> 01:26:45,238 The city is safe. 1420 01:26:45,338 --> 01:26:47,407 The city is defying its critics. 1421 01:26:47,508 --> 01:26:50,712 It's silenced the doubts. It's kicked out the traitors. 1422 01:26:50,812 --> 01:26:52,647 It's found a better way. 1423 01:26:52,747 --> 01:26:54,048 It has its Warden. 1424 01:26:54,006 --> 01:26:55,132 ...its guardian. 1425 01:26:55,550 --> 01:26:58,351 And now the real work can begin. 1426 01:26:59,761 --> 01:27:02,597 - Answer the question.- What's the question? - Answer the question.- What's the question? 1427 01:27:02,598 --> 01:27:05,851 Where do you see yourself in five years? 1428 01:27:06,393 --> 01:27:08,312 I don't know. 1429 01:27:09,813 --> 01:27:10,981 Say something. 1430 01:27:13,317 --> 01:27:15,151 The stuff I'm doing here, 1431 01:27:15,152 --> 01:27:20,073 if it works here, it should work everywhere. 1432 01:27:23,535 --> 01:27:24,786 So, that's my answer. 126733

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