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Previously,
on "The InBetween"...
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I see ghosts. I hear them.
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Cassie!
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Sometimes they send me
a message.
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You have to stop him.
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And sometimes they just show up.
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My daughter has
certain abilities
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that can be very helpful.
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She's over here!
She's still alive.
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But what she sees...
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It's incredibly rough on her.
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I saw some strange stuff
last night,
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and I think it might be
related to your case.
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Let me out!
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Everybody,
your attention, please.
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Sergeant Ballion has agreed
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let our task force address you
before role call
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so that we can give you as much
information as possible today
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before you're out on the street.
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As you all know,
the last three years,
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three newlywed couples
have been brutally murdered
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in their own homes.
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The man has been tortured
and shot.
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The woman has been drowned.
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The killer always strikes
on the same date: Today.
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This is the year
that we stop him.
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Our team will comb the tip lines
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and get you the best leads
you can follow up on.
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Bulletins have been sent
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to all neighborhood
watch offices and HOAs.
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There is no question
this guy stalks his victims,
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possibly for the 12 months
leading up to each kill.
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So don't be too quick
to dismiss reports
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of men and women saying
they are being followed
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or complaints their homes
have been vandalized.
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Everything must be checked out,
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especially if the complainant
has been married
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for less than one year.
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We are not gonna let this guy
slip through the net again.
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All right,
let's hit the streets.
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We're doing everything we can.
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Seattle's practically
on lockdown.
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I just hope it's enough.
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What smells so delicious?
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- Waffles.
- My favorite.
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Go for it.
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Tom went into work early,
so you're gonna eat his share
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as well as your own.
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Not bad news, I hope.
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- You mean the newlywed killer.
- Yeah.
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So far, all is quiet.
That reminds me,
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Tom got you
a pepper spray keychain.
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To go with the TASER he got you
when you went off to college.
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And the self-defense classes
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in high school.
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I was one badass freshman.
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I made way too much food here.
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You know what, think I'm gonna
bring some over
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to the precinct later.
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I'm sure they'd appreciate that.
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Let me help you.
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No!
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Is there any way
you can identify her?
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Maybe we could still
get to her in time.
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I could barely make out her face
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just through all the water.
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I didn't see anything else.
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I'm sorry.
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That's all right, kid.
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Listen, I appreciate
you calling.
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Bye.
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You made all this food.
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Kinda lost my appetite.
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He's just so stressed
about this case.
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I just wish
I could be more helpful.
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Hey, come on,
you're doing your best.
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We all just want to stop this
guy before he strikes again.
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Yeah.
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Which reminds me,
Tom got you a present.
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It's a pepper spray keychain.
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To go with the taser he got
me when I left for college.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Brian, you gave me this already.
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Right, of course.
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I'm gonna get some more coffee.
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Detective,
is it the newlywed killer?
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Did he strike again?
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Detective, do you have
any leads?
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- What have we got?
- Jim and Shelly Edwards.
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Married seven months.
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Looks like the killer
gained access
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when Shelly was alone
Saturday afternoon.
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No forced entry.
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So she let him in
just like the other victims.
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Husband arrived around 8:00 p.m.
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We think he was struck
on the head
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as he entered the house.
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Restrained, tortured all night,
and then shot.
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Shelly was drowned
in their bathtub.
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No sexual assault, no robbery.
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Wallets were left full of cash.
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Exactly the same
as the last three years.
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Well, not quite.
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This way.
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Looks like he got
his hands free.
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Probably while the killer
was filling the bath.
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Edwards managed to dial 911,
but he was shot
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before he could tell them
their address.
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Still gave them a chance
to GPS the phone.
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Uniforms were here
in ten minutes.
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A pink flower petal.
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In our previous murders,
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the killer has had time
to clean up.
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This time, he's in a bit
of a rush.
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Any other flowers
around the house?
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No. Looks like a carnation.
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Shelly Edward's sister is here.
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She's in the living room.
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We found these,
flower petals in their room.
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Do you think she'd let in
a flower delivery man?
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I wanna say no,
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but Jim would sometimes
send her a bouquet
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for no reason.
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They were happy? No problems?
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Not that I know of.
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But a few days ago
Shelly and I went for coffee,
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and she was very anxious,
looking around a lot, jumpy.
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I asked her what was wrong
and she told me
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she thought someone
was following her.
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Now, thinking back on it,
there was more to it.
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Something she didn't want
to tell me.
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Like she knew the guy?
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Maybe.
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I remember thinking
she doesn't just look scared,
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she looks...
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guilty.
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It's in pretty good shape
if you wanna take a look.
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- Melinda!
- Cassie.
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My God!
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- How are you?
- I'm good!
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Yeah, I'm okay.
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- It's been a long time.
- Yeah.
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I'd love to catch up,
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see what you've been doing
since high school.
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You're kind of looking at it.
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I get a break
in about 20 minutes.
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Sounds great.
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Until then, how about a mimosa?
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On the house.
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Thank you.
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I'll see you in a bit.
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Hey, you made it.
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- Brilliant.
- Yeah, thanks to you
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I'm officially consulting
on this case.
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Damien, right?
Good to see you again.
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- Same here.
- Manny worked these murders
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since day one.
We could use his experience.
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Biggest regret
was taking retirement
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with this bastard
still on the loose.
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Mind if I walk the scene? Sure.
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I'll stay and take you through.
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Meet you back at the precinct.
Sounds good.
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Hey.
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So we're, shorthanded today,
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so I really only have
five minutes, but...
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what if we got lunch
later this week?
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I'd like that.
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It is really good to see you.
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For what it's worth,
I still feel awful
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about the way I acted
back in school.
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Cass.
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You were going through
a hard time.
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You'd just lost your mom.
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I know, but...
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you tried to be there for me
and II just cut you off.
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I'm really sorry.
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Now I feel like a jerk.
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I knew you worked here
when I came in.
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Okay.
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I wanted to talk to you
about something.
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About what?
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Do you remember, um...
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sophomore year
when Craig Hasler died?
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Sure.
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It was a brain aneurysm.
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Yeah.
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Maybe a week later you, me,
some of the other girls
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decided to contact him
on a Ouija board.
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Nothing was happening,
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and then suddenly,
you started to...
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freak out.
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You said
that you could see Craig.
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I mean, the other girls
were pissed.
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They thought you were just
trying to scare them, but...
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You were the only one
who believed me.
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I was your best friend.
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Yeah.
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And after that is when
you stopped speaking to me.
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I should have been more honest
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about what was going on with me.
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And the truth is, it's still
kind of complicated.
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Would it be okay
if we talked about it later
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when we have more time?
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- Yeah, of course.
- Yeah.
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Of course, I didn't mean
to upset you.
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You're engaged?
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Yeah, I was.
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She had a car accident.
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We had had an argument.
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I don't even remember
what it was about, but...
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Jenna...
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was driving home.
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She called me to apologize.
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Sheshe said, "There's
something I want you to know."
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Something important."
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But before she could...
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It has been two years.
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I cannot take this ring off
of my finger.
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I can't stop thinking about
what she wanted
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to tell me that night.
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Is she trying
to get through to me?
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It's just that I...
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can't hear her.
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But maybe I can.
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So you want me to try
to talk to her?
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You can say no...
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But please don't.
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Of course.
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I mean, I can try.
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Thank you.
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Thanks. Ballistics are in.
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Our victim, Jim Edwards,
was shot with the same weapon
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as the previous three husbands:
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A .22 caliber.
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Well, our killer's
consistent, I'll give him that.
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Always seemed odd
to use such a small gun.
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I mean, why not a .38, a .44?
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Well, a .22 makes less racket,
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00:10:59,006 --> 00:11:00,921
still gets the job done
close range.
240
00:11:02,052 --> 00:11:03,271
Where are we?
241
00:11:03,314 --> 00:11:05,034
Forensics is still processing
the apartment.
242
00:11:05,058 --> 00:11:06,666
We found a carnation petal
at the scene.
243
00:11:06,709 --> 00:11:08,549
Uniforms are canvassing
the local flower shops.
244
00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:10,340
I've gotta update
the mayor's office in 20.
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00:11:10,364 --> 00:11:11,714
Any new insights?
246
00:11:11,758 --> 00:11:13,498
I've been reviewing the files,
247
00:11:13,542 --> 00:11:15,718
putting together a profile
of the killer.
248
00:11:15,762 --> 00:11:17,807
He's all about power
and control.
249
00:11:17,851 --> 00:11:19,591
Rituals are clearly important.
250
00:11:19,635 --> 00:11:22,682
He's detail-oriented...
Meticulous, even.
251
00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:24,335
But here's what's
tripping me up:
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00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:25,815
Usually, when a couple
is murdered,
253
00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:28,731
one gender is obviously
the real target.
254
00:11:28,775 --> 00:11:31,734
David Berkowitz, for example,
shot couples parked in cars,
255
00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:33,997
but his motivation
was anger towards women
256
00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:35,303
for rejecting him.
257
00:11:35,346 --> 00:11:37,653
With this guy, I...
I'm not so sure.
258
00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:39,655
He spends hours with the women
259
00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:41,352
before the husband comes home.
260
00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:43,267
Now, if she is
the primary target,
261
00:11:43,311 --> 00:11:45,574
he could just kill her
and leave,
262
00:11:45,617 --> 00:11:47,445
never even deal with the man.
263
00:11:47,484 --> 00:11:48,724
Only the husbands are tortured.
264
00:11:48,748 --> 00:11:50,268
The real point
is having them together
265
00:11:50,312 --> 00:11:52,192
so they can see what the other
is going through.
266
00:11:52,216 --> 00:11:53,713
Maybe he was engaged, married.
267
00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:55,540
Ended badly.
Wife might have left him
268
00:11:55,584 --> 00:11:57,717
for another guy.
So the female victim's
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00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,196
a surrogate
for the bride he lost
270
00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,373
and the husband represents
the man who stole her away.
271
00:12:02,417 --> 00:12:04,636
I went through the victim's
calendars, and get this,
272
00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,726
Shelly Edwards
has the same notation
273
00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:09,380
every Thursday at 6:00 p.m.
274
00:12:09,424 --> 00:12:12,775
Which is... "NWSG."
275
00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:15,038
That's it? Just an acronym?
276
00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:16,344
No address, no notes.
277
00:12:16,387 --> 00:12:17,787
Did you ask the sister
about this?
278
00:12:17,811 --> 00:12:19,695
No one close to her
seems to know what it is.
279
00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:22,567
And the first entry
is six months ago.
280
00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:24,411
That's right after
the Edwards were married.
281
00:12:24,435 --> 00:12:28,051
Do you remember NWSG
with any previous murder?
282
00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:29,935
- No, it's new to me.
- But anything that might
283
00:12:29,978 --> 00:12:32,067
have to do with their wedding
is worth looking into.
284
00:12:32,111 --> 00:12:34,884
I agree.
Let me know what you find.
285
00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,974
I'll be right back.
286
00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:22,932
- "Ashley."
- That's what it read.
287
00:13:22,976 --> 00:13:24,804
- First name, last name?
- I couldn't tell.
288
00:13:24,847 --> 00:13:27,110
But you're positive
it's connected to our case?
289
00:13:27,154 --> 00:13:28,895
Well, from all the slashing
that went on
290
00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:30,722
and the drowning earlier, yeah.
291
00:13:30,766 --> 00:13:32,855
Yeah, I'm positive.
292
00:13:32,899 --> 00:13:34,552
Anyway, I'm gonna go home.
293
00:13:34,596 --> 00:13:36,554
I'll let you know
if I see anything else.
294
00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:39,122
- Thanks, kid.
- Yeah.
295
00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:41,081
There's never been a victim
or a witness
296
00:13:41,124 --> 00:13:43,953
on this case before
named Ashley.
297
00:13:43,997 --> 00:13:46,434
If our killer was abandoned
by a fiancée at some point,
298
00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:49,306
her name could be Ashley.
299
00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:50,830
- Hey, Hackett?
- Yeah.
300
00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:52,309
I've got something.
301
00:13:52,353 --> 00:13:54,616
There are no security cameras
on the Edwards' block,
302
00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:56,487
but I pulled up as much footage
as I could
303
00:13:56,531 --> 00:13:59,186
from the places they frequent.
304
00:13:59,229 --> 00:14:00,970
And I found this.
305
00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:02,885
So the sister was right.
306
00:14:02,929 --> 00:14:04,769
Shelly did know the guy
that was following her.
307
00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:07,063
Yeah, the sister also said
Shelly was acting guilty.
308
00:14:07,107 --> 00:14:09,979
Maybe she was having an affair.
309
00:14:10,023 --> 00:14:11,633
Is there more
than one encounter?
310
00:14:11,676 --> 00:14:13,591
Yeah, he was persistent.
311
00:14:13,635 --> 00:14:15,855
This is Shelly's fitness studio.
312
00:14:15,898 --> 00:14:18,292
I put it through the DMV
facial recognition software
313
00:14:18,335 --> 00:14:20,207
Clay Rollins.
314
00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:21,686
Does he have a record?
315
00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:24,080
Mostly petty stuff,
but he did 13 months
316
00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:26,343
for domestic battery
on his ex-wife.
317
00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:32,262
Let's bring him in.
318
00:14:32,306 --> 00:14:33,960
How did you know Shelly?
319
00:14:34,003 --> 00:14:36,323
We used to date in college,
but it wasn't anything serious.
320
00:14:36,347 --> 00:14:38,529
Then why do we have you
on security tape harassing her
321
00:14:38,573 --> 00:14:40,401
the week before
she was murdered?
322
00:14:40,444 --> 00:14:41,881
I wasn't harassing her.
323
00:14:41,924 --> 00:14:44,187
I ran into Shelly
about four months ago.
324
00:14:44,231 --> 00:14:46,189
We went for a drink
and she started telling me
325
00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,799
that she wasn't happy.
326
00:14:47,843 --> 00:14:49,683
Marriage was more complicated
than she thought,
327
00:14:49,707 --> 00:14:50,802
blah, blah, blah.
328
00:14:50,846 --> 00:14:52,892
I've been married before,
so I gave her some advice.
329
00:14:52,935 --> 00:14:55,024
- You said you had a drink.
- Yeah.
330
00:14:55,068 --> 00:14:57,244
- Where?
- The bar at Columbia Hotel.
331
00:14:57,287 --> 00:14:59,115
At what point in the evening
did you decide
332
00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:01,335
to take your conversation
upstairs to one of the rooms?
333
00:15:01,378 --> 00:15:03,032
We didn't.
334
00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:06,427
That particular night
we had sex in my car.
335
00:15:08,037 --> 00:15:09,734
How long were you seeing
each other?
336
00:15:09,778 --> 00:15:11,606
Couple of months.
337
00:15:11,649 --> 00:15:13,913
We'd get together
once a week or so.
338
00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:15,836
She had a standing
Thursday night appointment.
339
00:15:15,860 --> 00:15:18,047
Was that you?
No, Thursdays I play poker.
340
00:15:18,091 --> 00:15:20,571
- We need to check your alibi.
- You can have at it.
341
00:15:20,615 --> 00:15:22,573
Digsy's Poker Palace
in Georgetown.
342
00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:24,575
I'm a regular.
You do a lot of gambling
343
00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:25,925
for a guy on parole, Clay.
344
00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:27,752
Look, Shelly and I had a thing.
345
00:15:27,796 --> 00:15:29,580
She ended it,
I tried to change her mind.
346
00:15:29,624 --> 00:15:31,974
- That is it.
- Why'd she end it?
347
00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:35,325
She had this crazy reason.
348
00:15:35,369 --> 00:15:37,153
Someone left a bunch of flowers
at her work
349
00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:40,026
and she thought
it was me being cute.
350
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:42,158
She was pissed.
I don't blame her.
351
00:15:42,202 --> 00:15:45,466
Yeah, but that's the thing...
It wasn't me.
352
00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:48,860
Did she say what kind
of flowers they were?
353
00:15:48,904 --> 00:15:51,733
Pink carnations.
354
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,177
I remember that bouquet, sure.
355
00:16:01,221 --> 00:16:02,700
It was about two weeks ago.
356
00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:04,398
I was pulling into
the parking lot
357
00:16:04,441 --> 00:16:07,270
and I saw a guy just
leaving them by the back door.
358
00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:08,619
Was there a card?
359
00:16:08,663 --> 00:16:10,447
No, nothing,
so I brought them in
360
00:16:10,491 --> 00:16:12,101
and told Shelly about it
when she got in.
361
00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:13,363
But she wasn't happy.
362
00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,148
Did she seem frightened?
363
00:16:15,191 --> 00:16:17,019
More annoyed than anything.
364
00:16:17,063 --> 00:16:18,623
I said maybe they were
from her husband,
365
00:16:18,647 --> 00:16:20,066
and she said Jim knew better.
366
00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:22,198
He'd send roses, not carnations.
367
00:16:22,242 --> 00:16:23,882
She went around
asking all the instructors
368
00:16:23,906 --> 00:16:26,594
if they were expecting flowers,
and everyone said no,
369
00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:28,074
so she tossed them in the trash
370
00:16:28,117 --> 00:16:29,437
and that's the last
I heard of it.
371
00:16:29,461 --> 00:16:31,468
Could you describe the guy?
372
00:16:31,512 --> 00:16:34,776
He was pretty far away
but, um, white,
373
00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:36,430
tall, average build.
374
00:16:36,473 --> 00:16:37,953
Was he driving a car?
375
00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,738
I'm not sure, but after
he dropped the flowers
376
00:16:40,782 --> 00:16:43,654
I heard a motorcycle start up
around the corner.
377
00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:27,959
Jenna.
378
00:17:29,222 --> 00:17:32,138
Jenna.
379
00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:35,837
If you have a message
for Melinda,
380
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,100
you can tell me.
381
00:18:22,927 --> 00:18:25,365
We've checked with
as many friends and relatives
382
00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,584
of the former victims
as we can find
383
00:18:27,628 --> 00:18:30,065
asking about
mysterious flower deliveries
384
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:31,762
prior to the murders.
385
00:18:31,806 --> 00:18:34,330
Debra Carpenter's mother said
she thinks maybe carnations
386
00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:35,694
were dropped off
to Debra's office
387
00:18:35,723 --> 00:18:37,420
about a month before
the murders.
388
00:18:37,464 --> 00:18:38,639
But, I mean, without card
389
00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:39,964
they just assumed
it was a mistake.
390
00:18:39,988 --> 00:18:41,531
Everyone else says
they didn't know anything
391
00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:43,165
about any flowers,
or they've forgotten.
392
00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:44,649
That's a lead I'd have
followed up on
393
00:18:44,673 --> 00:18:46,588
like a bloodhound...
Nobody ever mentioned that.
394
00:18:46,632 --> 00:18:48,301
Well, no one realized
it was important.
395
00:18:48,344 --> 00:18:50,041
I mean, Shelly Edwards
only mentioned it
396
00:18:50,085 --> 00:18:51,845
because she thought the flowers
were delivered by Clay Rollins.
397
00:18:51,869 --> 00:18:54,394
And with no card, it's
possible the other two victims
398
00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:55,960
didn't get flowers.
For the killer,
399
00:18:56,004 --> 00:18:58,180
it's just about
the ritual of leaving them.
400
00:18:58,224 --> 00:18:59,573
It's all about the game.
401
00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:01,836
- Why pink carnations?
- I did a little research.
402
00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:04,404
Apparently, they are symbolic
of a woman's love.
403
00:19:04,447 --> 00:19:07,146
Maybe, but women
don't like 'em. I mean...
404
00:19:07,962 --> 00:19:09,602
Well, they mean something
to the killer.
405
00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:11,933
He delivered flowers
to Shelly Edwards at work,
406
00:19:11,976 --> 00:19:14,414
and Jim Edwards had
a carnation petal in his hand.
407
00:19:14,457 --> 00:19:16,137
He's bringing flowers
to the murder scene
408
00:19:16,161 --> 00:19:18,244
and taking them with him
when he goes.
409
00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:19,767
Okay, listen, I suggest
410
00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,410
we release this information
to the press.
411
00:19:21,434 --> 00:19:24,511
We've gotta set up a tip line
for any random flower drops.
412
00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:27,905
Okay, I'll work on it.
Good work, guys.
413
00:19:27,949 --> 00:19:29,733
I stayed on the road
for another hour
414
00:19:29,777 --> 00:19:31,909
trying to talk to Jenna,
but she couldn't hear me.
415
00:19:31,953 --> 00:19:34,042
The accident
just kept happening.
416
00:19:34,085 --> 00:19:37,263
Over and over.
417
00:19:37,306 --> 00:19:40,179
It's like she's caught in...
418
00:19:40,222 --> 00:19:43,443
some kind of death echo.
419
00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:45,445
Is that like a technical term?
420
00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:48,404
No, I just made it up.
421
00:19:48,448 --> 00:19:50,667
But that's what it feels like.
422
00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:53,104
She's...
423
00:19:53,148 --> 00:19:55,890
she's stuck.
424
00:19:55,933 --> 00:19:58,066
There was this kid
at my old high school...
425
00:19:58,109 --> 00:20:00,242
Craig Heslerhe died
of a brain aneurysm
426
00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:01,504
when we were 14.
427
00:20:01,548 --> 00:20:03,463
Did you know him?
428
00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:06,727
Not when he was alive,
but after...
429
00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:09,120
I would see him at school.
430
00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:11,384
He'd be wandering the halls
431
00:20:11,427 --> 00:20:13,647
and hiding in dark corners
432
00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:17,216
just clutching his head
and screaming...
433
00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:19,522
like he was still
feeling the pain
434
00:20:19,566 --> 00:20:21,481
of the moment when he died.
435
00:20:21,524 --> 00:20:24,048
What happened to him?
436
00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:26,137
I don't know.
437
00:20:26,181 --> 00:20:29,793
Kinda quit going to school,
if you remember.
438
00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:32,187
Too well.
439
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,667
There were a lot of reasons
440
00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,070
that I couldn't handle
high school,
441
00:20:35,094 --> 00:20:37,148
but one of the big ones
was that Craig Hesler
442
00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:39,716
scared the crap out of me.
443
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,199
I wanted to help him
but I didn't know how...
444
00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:47,028
so I walked away.
445
00:20:47,071 --> 00:20:51,206
And I don't want
to do that with Jenna.
446
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,687
Okay.
447
00:20:53,730 --> 00:20:56,472
Well, let's talk about
what's holding her back.
448
00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:58,779
Could be the trauma
from the accident.
449
00:20:58,822 --> 00:21:01,695
Maybe something about Melinda.
450
00:21:03,174 --> 00:21:07,266
When I first saw the crash,
Melinda had grabbed my arm...
451
00:21:08,528 --> 00:21:10,443
And she still wears
the engagement ring,
452
00:21:10,486 --> 00:21:13,533
and it's like it carries
a lot of...
453
00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:15,448
I don't know, energy.
454
00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,276
I could feel it.
455
00:21:19,582 --> 00:21:23,194
The ring is a symbol
of their love.
456
00:21:23,238 --> 00:21:24,718
When Jenna was alive,
457
00:21:24,761 --> 00:21:28,330
the bond they shared
made them strong.
458
00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:30,593
But now...
459
00:21:31,768 --> 00:21:34,162
Now it's like a weight.
460
00:21:38,906 --> 00:21:40,951
I just got off the phone
with the mayor.
461
00:21:40,995 --> 00:21:42,779
His office is releasing
a statement
462
00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:44,143
about the carnations
to the press.
463
00:21:44,167 --> 00:21:46,261
Excellent,
hopefully we'll get a hit.
464
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,545
- Whoa, where you guys going?
- We got a lead on Shelly's
465
00:21:48,569 --> 00:21:50,047
mysterious Thursday appointment.
466
00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:52,789
The acronym, NWSGcell calls
she made on Thursday evenings
467
00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:54,443
ping a tower in Crown Hill.
468
00:21:54,487 --> 00:21:55,923
When we checked
her credit cards,
469
00:21:55,966 --> 00:21:57,926
we found a $40 charge
every fifth Thursday evening
470
00:21:57,968 --> 00:21:59,840
to the DiSavino Bake Shop
in Crown Hill.
471
00:21:59,883 --> 00:22:01,972
It goes back six months,
472
00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:05,149
same time that NWSG started
appearing in her calendar.
473
00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:09,240
Headed to the bakery
to check it out.
474
00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:15,769
Sorry, we're closed.
475
00:22:15,812 --> 00:22:17,901
We just need a minute.
476
00:22:17,945 --> 00:22:19,773
Have you seen this woman?
477
00:22:19,816 --> 00:22:22,776
Yeah, she was in here
a few times.
478
00:22:22,819 --> 00:22:24,499
We're trying to work out
what she was doing
479
00:22:24,523 --> 00:22:26,177
in the neighborhood
on Thursday nights.
480
00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:27,737
Well, I can't say for sure,
481
00:22:27,781 --> 00:22:29,421
but the community center
across the street
482
00:22:29,445 --> 00:22:31,698
offers classes and meetings
during the week,
483
00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:34,788
and sometimes people stop in
before to pick up snacks.
484
00:22:34,831 --> 00:22:36,659
Okay, we'll check it out.
485
00:22:36,703 --> 00:22:39,662
Ask for Lyla James.
She runs the place.
486
00:22:39,706 --> 00:22:43,231
Thank you,
you've been very helpful.
487
00:22:51,718 --> 00:22:54,547
- Can I help you?
- Lyla James?
488
00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:56,113
The coordinator for the center?
489
00:22:56,157 --> 00:22:57,941
That's right.
490
00:22:57,985 --> 00:23:00,335
Do you recognize this woman?
491
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,684
Seen her on the news.
492
00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:03,688
That's the woman who was killed
on Saturday night.
493
00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:06,515
Shelly Edwards.
Has she been here?
494
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,996
We were at
the DiSavino Bakery next door.
495
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,119
They told us Shelly picked up
a box of pastries there
496
00:23:11,143 --> 00:23:12,434
every few weeks.
497
00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:13,678
Apparently that's not uncommon
498
00:23:13,722 --> 00:23:15,158
for people attending
meetings here.
499
00:23:15,201 --> 00:23:17,265
Yes, anonymous meetings.
500
00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:21,008
We'll try to keep anything
you tell us confidential.
501
00:23:21,051 --> 00:23:23,184
It's terrible
what happened to Shelly,
502
00:23:23,227 --> 00:23:26,230
but it's my responsibility
to protect the privacy
503
00:23:26,274 --> 00:23:28,276
of the people who come here
seeking help.
504
00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:29,451
Even if they're dead?
505
00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,061
Even then.
506
00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:35,370
It's not just Shelly's privacy,
it's everyone else's, too.
507
00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:38,155
I'm really sorry.
508
00:23:38,199 --> 00:23:40,419
Thank you.
509
00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:44,945
"Newlywed Women's
Support Group."
510
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:46,816
I entered the address
of the community center,
511
00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:49,863
and a Thursday meeting time
along with the acronym NWSG,
512
00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:51,386
and that's what came up.
513
00:23:53,083 --> 00:23:54,911
Newlyweds need support for what?
514
00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:56,435
According to
the club's description,
515
00:23:56,459 --> 00:23:58,698
it's for modern women who are
having trouble adjusting
516
00:23:58,741 --> 00:24:00,047
to the demands and difficulties
517
00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:01,831
of building a life
with a new partner.
518
00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:05,400
Mutual decision-making,
shared spaces,
519
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,402
compromises, sacrifices...
520
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:08,534
Marriage.
521
00:24:08,577 --> 00:24:10,144
Clay said Shelly wasn't happy.
522
00:24:10,187 --> 00:24:12,886
Marriage was more complicated
than she thought it'd be.
523
00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:15,628
Are any of our other
female victims members?
524
00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:17,238
Both Lucy Aquila
and Debra Carpenter
525
00:24:17,281 --> 00:24:19,041
were in couples' therapy
with their husbands.
526
00:24:19,065 --> 00:24:21,285
I followed up the lead
at the time, it went nowhere.
527
00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:23,287
Could it be that those wives
were in that group?
528
00:24:23,331 --> 00:24:25,551
But the only way to be sure
is to get a complete list
529
00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:26,900
of former and current members.
530
00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,783
But the center won't release
that information
531
00:24:28,807 --> 00:24:31,600
without a warrant, and a judge
won't issue a warrant
532
00:24:31,644 --> 00:24:33,124
without a direct
and immediate threat.
533
00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:35,087
Let me tell you from
experience, lots of people
534
00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:36,805
don't even sign in
to those meetings at all
535
00:24:36,848 --> 00:24:38,048
or don't use their real names.
536
00:24:38,072 --> 00:24:39,521
That's what the "anonymous"
is about.
537
00:24:39,565 --> 00:24:41,436
It's, a protection.
538
00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:43,830
Our killer knows that.
539
00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:46,746
If everyone's anonymous,
we can't connect the victims.
540
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:49,009
Perfect hunting ground.
541
00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,671
You know I'll help if I can,
but I haven't seen anything
542
00:24:58,714 --> 00:24:59,759
since the name Ashley.
543
00:24:59,802 --> 00:25:01,369
Yes, I know,
and you'll always call
544
00:25:01,412 --> 00:25:02,979
when you have something.
545
00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:05,982
It's just, we think
our four female victims
546
00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:07,466
all belong
to the same support group.
547
00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:11,335
We can't prove it, and...
And I guess I was just hoping.
548
00:25:11,379 --> 00:25:14,513
I was just hoping...
549
00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:17,559
Can I get you a cup of tea?
550
00:25:17,603 --> 00:25:19,343
Yes, please.
551
00:25:22,346 --> 00:25:23,870
You're a good daughter.
552
00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:09,176
Tom?
553
00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:13,155
Did she tell you
where the ticket was issued?
554
00:26:13,179 --> 00:26:14,834
No, just said
it was a parking infraction.
555
00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:16,487
It could be
by the Edwards' house
556
00:26:16,531 --> 00:26:18,577
- or the community center.
- Yeah.
557
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,230
Well, let's get the team on it.
558
00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,406
Yeah.
559
00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,236
- Thanks for coming over.
- Thanks for reaching out.
560
00:26:28,717 --> 00:26:31,241
Did you... see Jenna?
561
00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:34,070
Did you... talk to her?
562
00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:38,814
I did see her, yes.
563
00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:42,252
And the thing is, you're right.
564
00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:43,645
She's still here.
565
00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:46,779
It's just not in the way
that you think.
566
00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,130
There's nothing romantic
567
00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:53,263
about what she's going through.
568
00:26:53,307 --> 00:26:56,919
She's not a guardian angel
watching over you.
569
00:26:56,963 --> 00:26:59,574
She's not trying to get you
that message of love.
570
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:02,272
She's caught.
571
00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:06,668
I don't understand.
572
00:27:06,712 --> 00:27:10,106
For the last two years...
573
00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:12,456
you haven't wanted
to face the fact
574
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,763
that she's gone.
575
00:27:14,807 --> 00:27:18,288
You want her back so much...
576
00:27:18,332 --> 00:27:21,770
and you keep putting
all of that energy out there,
577
00:27:21,814 --> 00:27:24,338
and it's like she's...
578
00:27:24,381 --> 00:27:25,948
she's driving toward it
579
00:27:25,992 --> 00:27:28,951
even though she can't
get to you.
580
00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:31,780
She will never get to you.
581
00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:36,306
Is she in pain?
582
00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:40,702
I don't think it's pain
like we feel, but...
583
00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:43,705
she isn't at peace.
584
00:27:48,362 --> 00:27:50,190
I think the only way
for this to end
585
00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:53,976
is for one of you
to walk away...
586
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,457
and Jenna can't,
so it has to be you.
587
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,853
How?
588
00:28:00,896 --> 00:28:05,684
I think maybe you should
take your ring off.
589
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:10,514
It's like it's connecting
you both in a way that...
590
00:28:10,558 --> 00:28:14,170
it's not healthy anymore.
591
00:28:17,086 --> 00:28:19,610
And you're sure
about all of this?
592
00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:24,354
I'm sure about what I saw...
593
00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:27,270
but I'm not always sure
about what it means.
594
00:28:28,881 --> 00:28:30,186
You asked for my help,
595
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:33,407
and I know you wanted
a message from Jenna...
596
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:36,715
something you can
think of as closure.
597
00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:39,239
I'm sorry I can't give you that.
598
00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,721
When I was wearing this ring,
599
00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:45,158
I felt like Jenna
was still with me.
600
00:28:45,201 --> 00:28:46,855
Yeah.
601
00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:51,207
I guess it's time
to do it on my own.
602
00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:05,613
How will you know it worked?
603
00:29:07,484 --> 00:29:11,445
If you want,
I can go back and check.
604
00:29:11,488 --> 00:29:13,752
What if she's still there?
605
00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:18,800
Then I'll keep trying.
606
00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,803
Thank you.
607
00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:32,252
Yeah, that's perfect.
Thanks again.
608
00:29:32,276 --> 00:29:33,249
Bye.
609
00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:34,773
Hey, I think I got it.
610
00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:36,731
A parking ticket was issued
to a motorcycle
611
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,820
parked in the alley behind
Shelly's fitness studio
612
00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:40,039
two weeks ago.
613
00:29:40,082 --> 00:29:41,762
That's when the flowers
were dropped off.
614
00:29:41,786 --> 00:29:44,043
Yeah, and get this:
Wade Modell works
615
00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:45,392
at the Kenmore Flower Market.
616
00:29:45,435 --> 00:29:48,134
He did ten months
on an assault charge in 2016
617
00:29:48,177 --> 00:29:50,440
and he owns a .22.
618
00:29:50,484 --> 00:29:52,791
Very good.
619
00:29:59,710 --> 00:30:02,104
Landlady says Modell isn't home.
620
00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,193
Usually gets in around 7:00 p.m.
621
00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:06,413
- What is that?
- It's my dinner.
622
00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:08,937
Not in the car, thank you.
623
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,723
It's Modell.
624
00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:17,990
Stop, police!
625
00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,863
Stop!
626
00:30:39,402 --> 00:30:42,318
Wade Modell,
you're under arrest.
627
00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:45,017
You have the right
to remain silent.
628
00:30:47,062 --> 00:30:49,238
Do you know her?
629
00:30:49,282 --> 00:30:51,066
Never seen her before.
630
00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:53,808
Are you sure about that?
631
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:57,116
So you don't know them either?
632
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,466
What the hell is this?
633
00:31:00,206 --> 00:31:03,209
It's a murder case, Wade.
Serial murder.
634
00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:04,732
II didn't kill anybody.
635
00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:05,883
You delivered flowers
to Shelly Edwards
636
00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:07,517
two weeks before
she was murdered.
637
00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:09,041
You mean at the gym?
638
00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:11,739
I was just doing her a favor.
Doing Shelly a favor?
639
00:31:11,782 --> 00:31:14,002
No, the other lady.
640
00:31:17,832 --> 00:31:19,225
Take us through it, Wade.
641
00:31:19,268 --> 00:31:21,140
Slowly.
642
00:31:21,183 --> 00:31:24,012
This girl comes up
to the stand where I work,
643
00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:26,972
and she buys a big bouquet
of pink carnations.
644
00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:29,415
Said she wanted to get them to
her friend but she had to run.
645
00:31:29,439 --> 00:31:31,759
Gave me 20 bucks to take them
into the city for her
646
00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:34,109
on my bike.
What did she look like?
647
00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:39,114
She was a redhead.
648
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,379
Unis say that no one is home
at Lyla James' place.
649
00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:44,598
They're gonna wait.
650
00:31:44,641 --> 00:31:45,923
There is another car
checking the center.
651
00:31:45,947 --> 00:31:47,787
You're sure about this?
The killer's a woman?
652
00:31:47,811 --> 00:31:48,689
Absolutely.
653
00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:50,014
The support group,
the pink carnations?
654
00:31:50,038 --> 00:31:51,407
Lyla's the only thing
linking them together.
655
00:31:51,431 --> 00:31:52,606
And there were signs.
656
00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,738
No sexual assault
on the female victims,
657
00:31:54,782 --> 00:31:55,914
the small caliber hand gun,
658
00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:58,090
the fact that every woman
opened the door.
659
00:31:58,133 --> 00:31:59,526
They trusted her.
660
00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:02,442
She's that nice woman
that works at the center.
661
00:32:02,485 --> 00:32:04,966
Lyla James was engaged in 2014,
662
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:07,316
but her fiancé broke it off
the day of the wedding.
663
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,752
The theme was pink carnations.
664
00:32:08,796 --> 00:32:11,059
They put an order in
at every shop in the city.
665
00:32:11,103 --> 00:32:13,279
Eight months later,
Lyla's groom eloped
666
00:32:13,322 --> 00:32:14,628
with their wedding planner.
667
00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:16,586
This weekend
was their anniversary...
668
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:18,371
Ashley and Joni Bennett.
669
00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:22,418
- Ashley's a guy.
- When he got married
670
00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:23,787
to someone else,
that's when Lyla snapped.
671
00:32:23,811 --> 00:32:25,378
Lyla's parents say
she was devastated.
672
00:32:25,421 --> 00:32:26,466
She's been in and out
673
00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:28,294
of psychiatric hospitals
ever since.
674
00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:29,295
They thought
she was getting better.
675
00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:30,731
They were very mistaken.
676
00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:32,734
Lyla didn't show up
for her shift at the center.
677
00:32:32,758 --> 00:32:34,778
No one's seen her for 24 hours.
She's on the run.
678
00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:36,780
We've put out a BOLO,
she won't get far.
679
00:32:36,824 --> 00:32:38,434
Question is,
what's her next move?
680
00:32:38,478 --> 00:32:40,718
Lyla's been murdering proxies
for the last three years.
681
00:32:40,742 --> 00:32:42,786
The newlywed victims
were just stand-ins
682
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:43,962
for Ashley and his wife.
683
00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:45,528
Why didn't she kill them first?
684
00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:47,966
In Lyla's mind, what she
feels for Ashley is true love.
685
00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:50,533
Maybe she was hoping
he'd come back for her.
686
00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:52,144
Well, that dream is over.
687
00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:54,107
You think she'd be
going after the Bennetts next?
688
00:32:54,131 --> 00:32:56,975
- It's a possibility.
- It's a distinct possibility.
689
00:32:57,018 --> 00:33:00,804
We need to get them
into protective custody, now.
690
00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:33,837
Surprise.
691
00:33:52,769 --> 00:33:56,338
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
But listen, are you okay?
692
00:33:57,861 --> 00:34:00,690
All right, appreciate the call.
693
00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:02,301
Cassie?
694
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:05,391
Redheaded woman just tried to
drown her in her own bathtub.
695
00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:07,262
Lyla's already at the house.
696
00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:28,936
Look at him.
697
00:34:28,979 --> 00:34:30,285
I said, look at him!
698
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:32,809
He's dying, and it's your fault.
699
00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:35,595
You made me do this,
both of you.
700
00:34:35,638 --> 00:34:38,511
All these years he should have
been with me.
701
00:34:38,554 --> 00:34:41,427
He needed me,
but you tricked him!
702
00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:43,429
Stole him from me!
703
00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,953
You made him believe
our love didn't matter,
704
00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:48,608
but it's everything to us.
705
00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:50,958
You still love me, Ashley,
don't you?
706
00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,482
Even now.
707
00:34:53,526 --> 00:34:55,136
You know we would have been
happy forever
708
00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:57,399
if this bitch hadn't ruined it.
709
00:34:57,443 --> 00:35:00,794
But don't worry,
she's gonna pay.
710
00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:02,230
Say good-bye.
711
00:35:02,274 --> 00:35:03,840
Let's go, your turn.
712
00:35:03,884 --> 00:35:05,146
Lyla!
713
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,714
Drop your weapon
or I'll kill her.
714
00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:10,020
Do it or she's dead!
715
00:35:19,856 --> 00:35:22,468
That's quite a scam
you had there, Lyla.
716
00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,514
Start a club
for unhappy newlywed brides,
717
00:35:25,558 --> 00:35:28,735
pick them off one by one.
718
00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:31,259
They were like lambs
to the slaughter, weren't they?
719
00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:38,397
I didn't think anyone
would even sign up.
720
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,139
Who doesn't want to be married?
721
00:35:41,182 --> 00:35:43,141
But I had more
than I could handle.
722
00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:45,447
This one?
723
00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:47,754
She didn't want
to be married either.
724
00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:50,496
She joked about it with me
while we were sampling cakes
725
00:35:50,539 --> 00:35:52,150
for my wedding.
726
00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,629
Eight months later,
727
00:35:53,673 --> 00:35:56,415
I hear Ashley had
to talk her into eloping.
728
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,157
Had to get down
on both knees and beg.
729
00:36:01,333 --> 00:36:04,466
Why do men want women
who don't want them?
730
00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:07,687
I don't know.
731
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:11,517
I would ask them that,
the women...
732
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,650
while the tub was filling
and their men were dying...
733
00:36:14,694 --> 00:36:17,566
and they didn't know either.
734
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:20,569
They were so sorry.
735
00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:23,485
"Do you love him now?"
I would ask.
736
00:36:23,529 --> 00:36:25,357
"Do you wish you had
another chance
737
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,056
to show him just how much
he means to you?"
738
00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:31,014
You know what they said?
739
00:36:31,058 --> 00:36:33,626
All of them?
740
00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:35,280
"I do."
741
00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:36,890
Lyla, no!
742
00:36:38,457 --> 00:36:40,807
Don't move.
743
00:36:55,474 --> 00:36:57,040
Thanks for coming with me.
744
00:36:57,084 --> 00:36:59,086
My pleasure.
745
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:17,800
I think she's gone.
746
00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,153
It worked.
747
00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:27,810
I couldn't have done it
without you.
748
00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:30,683
Well, I'm not so sure
about that.
749
00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:38,343
This is gonna sound
so selfish, but...
750
00:37:38,386 --> 00:37:40,823
I need you to be okay.
751
00:37:42,738 --> 00:37:46,568
I can't have anything
happen to you.
752
00:37:46,612 --> 00:37:49,005
Where is this coming from?
753
00:37:49,049 --> 00:37:52,618
Lately, you've been
forgetting things,
754
00:37:52,661 --> 00:37:55,751
and when you say you remember
I think you're lying.
755
00:37:57,884 --> 00:38:00,800
I'm scared...
756
00:38:00,843 --> 00:38:03,585
and I need you
to get checked out.
757
00:38:03,629 --> 00:38:07,154
You know, doctors
make the worst patients.
758
00:38:08,155 --> 00:38:09,983
Please?
759
00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:20,472
Okay.
760
00:38:20,515 --> 00:38:22,778
- I will.
- Okay.
761
00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:24,519
I promise.
762
00:38:29,373 --> 00:38:30,893
That was County Medical
on the phone.
763
00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:34,094
It was touch and go, but
Ashley Bennett's gonna live.
764
00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:37,184
So that's eight counts
of first-degree murder
765
00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:38,359
for Lyla instead of nine.
766
00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:39,882
Still enough for life in prison.
767
00:38:39,926 --> 00:38:42,276
Well, Lyla's parents
have hired an attorney
768
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,974
and he's already making noise
about an insanity defense.
769
00:38:45,018 --> 00:38:47,368
I predict
she'll go down swinging.
770
00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:50,023
At least she's going down.
771
00:38:56,899 --> 00:38:59,293
Melinda, I was gonna call you
in the morning.
772
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,687
That's okay, I already know.
773
00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:05,081
Yeah?
774
00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:07,475
She's free.
775
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,696
I can feel it.
776
00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,394
Thank you so much.
777
00:39:15,831 --> 00:39:18,356
And I meant what I said
about catching up.
778
00:39:18,399 --> 00:39:19,705
I miss you.
779
00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:22,011
I could really use a friend
right now.
780
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:24,274
Me, too.
781
00:39:24,318 --> 00:39:26,407
- I'll call you.
- Yeah.
782
00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:29,758
Bye.
783
00:39:32,892 --> 00:39:35,895
Still got an empty glass.
784
00:39:38,593 --> 00:39:41,422
- Top it off.
- Yep.
785
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,293
Hey, another one?
786
00:39:43,337 --> 00:39:46,732
Yeah, sure.
787
00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:48,516
You seem a little down
788
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,692
for a guy who just caught
a serial killer.
789
00:39:50,736 --> 00:39:54,609
No, I'mno, it's just...
790
00:39:54,653 --> 00:39:56,437
I bought into
some easy assumptions
791
00:39:56,481 --> 00:39:59,135
thinking it had to be a guy.
792
00:39:59,962 --> 00:40:01,882
Could have cost the
investigation months of time.
793
00:40:01,925 --> 00:40:03,753
Another couple
could have lost their lives.
794
00:40:03,797 --> 00:40:06,142
Yeah, but they didn't.
795
00:40:06,186 --> 00:40:07,405
I'm starting to think
796
00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,885
that you and I
aren't that different
797
00:40:09,929 --> 00:40:11,452
in terms of what we do.
798
00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,628
Hey, can I get another?
799
00:40:13,672 --> 00:40:17,110
The information comes in,
and we decipher it.
800
00:40:17,153 --> 00:40:18,981
We interpret it.
801
00:40:19,025 --> 00:40:22,289
We see if it fits this puzzle
that we're putting together.
802
00:40:24,204 --> 00:40:26,728
We do the best we can.
803
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:29,514
Here.
804
00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:32,125
Thank you.
805
00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:54,147
Jenna?
806
00:40:55,191 --> 00:40:57,803
I just wanted to say thank you.
807
00:40:59,152 --> 00:41:01,981
And I want to see
one last sunrise before I go.
808
00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:13,035
You're all right.
809
00:41:14,907 --> 00:41:17,997
I'm glad I could help.
810
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,696
Do me a favor and don't tell
Melinda you saw me.
811
00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:24,351
Are you sure?
812
00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:27,267
It's better this way.
813
00:41:27,310 --> 00:41:29,704
Melinda told me about you.
814
00:41:29,748 --> 00:41:31,793
Her best friend
from high school.
815
00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:34,622
She said you could see ghosts
and scary things
816
00:41:34,666 --> 00:41:36,842
that weren't there.
817
00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,409
And I remember thinking...
818
00:41:39,453 --> 00:41:41,934
"That must suck."
819
00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:45,415
Sometimes.
820
00:41:47,592 --> 00:41:51,421
But not today.
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