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[Wind whistling]
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[Crow caws]
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♪♪
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-Sometimes people say to me,
"Joe Bob, you should go to
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a remote cabin
and write your book."
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I can't write a book
in a remote cabin.
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Too much to do.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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-♪ Hey, everybody,
have you heard the news? ♪
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♪ Joe Bob is back in town ♪
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♪ He's over at the drive-in,
hanging around ♪
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♪ Watching crazy movies,
so come on down ♪
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♪ To Joe Bob's
"Last Drive-In" show ♪
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♪ Blood, beasties,
boobies, and more ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's
"Last Drive-In" show ♪
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♪ It's a spooky good time
with monsters and ghosts ♪
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♪ Crazy, kooky fun with
the world's greatest host ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's
"Last Drive-In" show ♪
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♪ It's gonna be legendary ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's
"Last Drive-In" show ♪
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♪ It's gonna be very scary ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's
"Last Drive-In" show ♪
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♪ Let's go ♪
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♪♪
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[Static crackles]
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-And so yeah, here we are!
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Back again to invade
your Friday nights.
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I'm Joe Bob Briggs,
and if I'm a little
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grumpy this year, it's because
you guys did it to me.
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You started messing with
the master plan
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of "The Last Drive-In."
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Last season, coronavirus hit us,
then civil unrest hit us,
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and our plan to make
"The Last Drive-In"
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America's problem free zone
became corrupted by
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a few of you,
and you know who you are,
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griping about stuff unrelated
to the body count
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in "Mother's Day."
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We are a simple type
of people here.
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We come here every week to watch
people getting killed,
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terrorized, mutilated,
and eaten.
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And we don't need an outside
agitators disturbing
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the beauty of that.
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And yes, I just revealed
the kick off marquis flick
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for season 3 of
"The Last Drive-In."
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And we're showing the classic
"Mother's Day"
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for several reasons,
which I'll get to in a minute.
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But first, let me make myself
absolutely crystal clear.
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This year, we will not be saving
the whales on this show.
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You can go to
the sports networks for that.
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Even though we love the whales,
especially Moby Dick.
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Actually Moby Dick proves you
don't have to save the whales.
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He killed the whole cast
on his own.
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He's the "Death Wish" whale.
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He takes care of whale business
in his own whale way.
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But we will not be crusading,
debating, lecturing,
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or posting memes about whose
fault it is.
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We don't care whose fault it is.
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We already assume everything is
somebody's fault.
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And now that I mentioned
"Death Wish" in the first
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major digression of the year,
oh, man, where am I?
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We're gonna talk about that
movie later, too, both of them.
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The original one and the remake
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because I have
a co-host tonight.
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Last year, it was Chris Jericho.
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Tonight, it's none other
than Eli Roth,
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renaissance man, creator of some
of the most amazing kill scenes
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in horror history.
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Oh, whoops, don't call him
a horror director.
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He's one of those guys, he's
no longer a horror director.
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But he's actually
a horror historian.
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Eli does
the "History of Horror" show
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over at our sister network, AMC.
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Well, I'm calling it
a sister network.
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It's actually
our "Big Brother" network.
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It's our massively
bigger than us,
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can beat us up at any moment,
sibling overlord.
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So we asked if we could borrow
Eli from one of the space age
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real studios
that they have over there.
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And so they helicoptered him in
from wherever he was.
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And we're going to go
mano-a-mano
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on history of horror,
"Mother's Day", "Death Wish",
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because he he did
the remake of "Death Wish."
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And I love the remake.
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And of course "Hostel"
and "Cabin Fever"
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and "The Green Inferno",
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and all of Eli's
very disturbing movies.
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Does anybody ever say, "Hey,
I'm going on vacation with Eli?"
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No, they do not.
Nobody ever.
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'Cause the lesson
of all Eli's movies
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is never leave
your house, right?
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Anyway, Eli is
in our virtual house tonight.
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And of course,
Darcy is in our real house.
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[Cheers and applause]
Darcy the Mail Girl,
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ladies and gentlemen,
here to accept your tweets,
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your e-mails, your DMS,
your Insta posts,
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whatever you got.
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We even got a lot of
snail mail last season.
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Are you ready to do
this, Darcy?
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-Hell, yeah. Let's do it.
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-Do you think, and I think
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I already know
the answer to this,
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but I want a woman's
point of view.
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Is Eli Roth the most handsome
director in the history of film?
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-Shouldn't we judge him
on the merits of his work
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instead of his appearance?
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-Well, yeah, but I mean,
come on, he's good looking guy.
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I mean, the director
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is not supposed to be
that good looking.
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The director is supposed to be
the guy in the grimy sweatshirt
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with, you know, hair that hadn't
been brushed in three days.
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But Eli Roth, it's like in the
1960s, somebody said,
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"Okay, George Hamilton
is going to direct now."
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You know, in the '50s,
you know, "Montgomery Clift,
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you're a director now."
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You know, they didn't let guys
that handsome direct.
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I mean, they tried it one time
with Warren Beatty.
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What did we get? "Reds."
We got "Reds" from Warren.
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You know, does anybody
remember "Reds"?
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Nine-hour movie about
a journalist
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in the Russian Revolution?
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That's what you get when you let
the good looking guy direct.
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But Eli is an actor.
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I mean, he could just do that.
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He had to go against tradition,
start knocking out hit movies.
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Okay, Eli Roth is
in the virtual cabin.
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We got him on satellite.
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Yuki, you got
this covered, right?
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We're going to get Eli
on satellite, I think.
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-[Shouts indistinctly]
-All right, but right now,
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we're going to watch a movie
that Eli Roth idolizes.
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The movie he borrowed from
when he made
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his first movie, "Cabin Fever."
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And of course, I'm talking
about "Mother's Day",
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the wonderful, heartwarming
2016 romantic comedy
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starring Jennifer Aniston,
Kate Hudson, and Julia Roberts.
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One of Gary Marshall's most
enduring films about
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family values and raising
children and -- what?
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Really? No, it's not
that "Mother's Day"?
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No, it's not
the 2016 "Mother's Day"?
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Oh, it's the 1980
Charles Kaufman
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sadistic backwoods torture
"Mother's Day"?
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Oh, okay.
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All right, if you insist,
we'll show that.
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But, you know,
I'm glad we picked this one
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because I think the scariest
thing you ever find in a flick
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is not a goo-faced,
bug eyed monster,
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and it's not Freddy Krueger
or Jason or Leatherface,
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and it's not a bunch
of skinheads with razor blades.
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The scariest thing you find
in a movie is the psycho hag.
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[Laughter]
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The psycho hag
is a spooky old lady,
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and she's the same kind of lady
who rams your grocery cart
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for no reason, you know, and
cuts in front of you in line,
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and stomps on the shoes
of young girls
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with her clunky tennis shoes.
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The only difference
in the movies
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is that the psycho hag
also has weapons.
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You know, the first psycho hag
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I ever met was
my sixth grade teacher.
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She had so much rouge
on her cheeks,
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they glowed like a chipmunk
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that's been zapped
with nuclear radiation.
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She had those tight lips
with the little lines
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all the way around them and hair
that stuck to her head
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like a football helmet.
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And her favorite thing to say
was, "Joe Bob, all four legs of
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your desk must be on the floor
at all times."
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But the thing that made
this particular psycho hag
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really scary
was that she was relentless.
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If she said,
"We are not leaving this room
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until somebody tells me
who made the filthy drawing,"
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then we didn't leave the room
until she found some weak
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Nazi collaborator,
somebody like Sarah Scroggins,
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who would break under
the pressure and say,
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"Joe Bob did it."
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I saw him pass the paper
to Frankie
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right before you grabbed it.
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And then Sarah Scroggins would
watch me walk to the gas chamber
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without even
being bothered by it.
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She was probably a psycho hag
in training.
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Anyhow, there's a great
tradition of psycho hag movies.
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"Whatever Happened
to Baby Jane?"
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That may be the very first
horror flick I ever saw.
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Bette Davis was
terrifying in that.
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And in
"Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte."
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Actually, in "Whatever
Happened to Baby Jane",
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you had dueling psycho hags.
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You had Bette with
Joan Crawford,
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and then Joan Crawford
went psycho hag
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a second time in
"Strait Jacket."
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What are the other great ones?
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Oh, "The Night Evelyn
Came Out of the Grave."
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Louise Fletcher in
"Flowers in the Attic."
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I don't know
if you'd count "Dead Alive."
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You know, the mother
who becomes a hideous zombie.
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Oh, the movie "Mother."
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Diane Ladd and Olympia Dukakis
from -- psycho hag tag team.
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"Mother" was one of the greatest
movies ever made in Rochester.
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Oh, Ruth Roman!
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Anybody remember Ruth Roman?
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She had a movie called
"The Baby",
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where she didn't want
her son to grow up
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so she stunted his growth
and got her two daughters
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to help keep him
imprisoned in his crib
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well into adulthood.
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Classic psycho hag material.
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Anyway, "Mother's Day"
is a very early Troma film,
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one of the best Troma films.
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Directed by Charles Kaufman,
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brother of Troma
founder Lloyd Kaufman.
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And it's the sensitive story
of a deranged psycho hag
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with two brain damaged sons
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living in the wilds
of New Jersey.
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Yes, that's what I said.
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These are New Jersey
hillbillies.
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And, of course,
like all flicks in the '80s,
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if you go into the woods,
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you might not come
out of the woods.
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This is one of the few spam in
a cabin comedies from that era.
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I mean, I say comedy.
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It's a comedy,
and it's not a comedy.
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Some people think
it's more horrifying
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because they tried
to put jokes in it.
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And I think it's modeled
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on the Pine Barrens region
of New Jersey,
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not far from here,
where you have families
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that haven't come out of
those woods for two centuries.
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They call it "the deep barrens"
in the movie.
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And it was not actually filmed
in the Pine Barrens.
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You probably don't want to film
in the actual Pine Barrens.
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I don't know. Maybe they're
afraid to go in there.
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But it was filmed up
in Sussex County.
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Actually, where we are, where
they film "Friday the 13th",
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right around the same lake
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that was used as Crystal Lake
near Stillwater,
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right by the Appalachian Trail.
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Am I getting too specific?
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Anyway, it was not filmed
in the Pine Barrens,
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which is a shame.
241
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You know, I don't
want to do any spoilers
242
00:11:07,321 --> 00:11:08,806
because we're going to go
deep on this one
243
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once Eli gets out here.
244
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So let's look at
the Drive-In totals
245
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and kick this sucker off.
246
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We have 6 1/2 dead bodies,
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six breasts,
spike through the neck,
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hatchet to the groin,
249
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electric turkey carver
face plunging.
250
00:11:23,234 --> 00:11:25,754
One crazy inspirational
self-help speech,
251
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one head begging ritual
vintage TV to the head,
252
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dead hippies, strangulations,
surprise head hacking,
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face licking, fake boob
pool toy suffocation.
254
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Perhaps the only time that
has been achieved in cinema.
255
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Elaborate rape role play.
256
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One weight room prison,
full frontal college flashback,
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beer can wilderness tracking,
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heavy breathing POV
bush camera,
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burlap bag beating,
ax dexterity training,
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groin kicking, tree branch
to the face, ear in a box.
261
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Gratuitous belly dancing,
gratuitous banjo foreshadowing,
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head rolls,
baby raccoon leg rolls.
263
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Neck brace fu,
multiple cocaine fu,
264
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fruit stand fu,
sleeping bag fu,
265
00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:10,695
watermelon fu, Drano fu.
266
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Drive-In Academy Award
nominations for
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Beatrice Pons,
in the title role, for saying,
268
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"Darlings, you have made
your mother very proud,
269
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and you will never leave me."
270
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Nancy Hendrickson as Abbey,
for bloodying her hands
271
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to save her soul sister.
272
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Frederick Coffin as Ike,
the alpha inbred enforcer
273
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for saying, "I'm sorry
I shamed you, Ma.
274
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Give me another chance.
I'll kill him good."
275
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And Charles Kaufman,
the director for doing things
276
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the Drive-In way before
embarking on a successful career
277
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as a baker of French
pastries in San Diego.
278
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Four stars.
Joe Bob says check it out.
279
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Good to be back.
280
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[Cheering]
281
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Even if we are out here
in the woods,
282
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You know, John McPhee.
The Pine Barrens,
283
00:13:02,609 --> 00:13:05,060
John McPhee wrote a book called
"The Pine Barrens"
284
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that every journalist knows
because he went into
285
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the Pine Barrens of New Jersey,
and he described these people
286
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who live one hour
from New York City
287
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and less than one hour
from Philadelphia.
288
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But they have this their own
289
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isolated culture
in the deep woods.
290
00:13:19,005 --> 00:13:20,454
Some of them
don't even have phones,
291
00:13:20,454 --> 00:13:22,249
or they didn't have
phones in 1968,
292
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which is when
that book came out.
293
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And they have a reputation
for being wild and mysterious.
294
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Now, not to be confused
with the Jackson Whites
295
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in northern New Jersey,
in the Ramapough Mountains,
296
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who are supposedly
descended from --
297
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they're descended
from three people.
298
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They're descended from the Brits
who fled the Revolutionary War.
299
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And they married runaway slaves.
300
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And Ramapough Indians.
301
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So they're white,
Black, and Indian,
302
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and they never
leave the mountains,
303
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and they don't believe
in trusting the police
304
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or the Pinay people
of South Jersey.
305
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If a Jackson White killed
a Piney man or vice versa,
306
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nobody would ever know.
307
00:14:00,978 --> 00:14:02,393
[Laughs]
308
00:14:02,393 --> 00:14:05,327
So it's no accident
that so many horror flicks
309
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are filmed right here in Jersey.
310
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Is Eli ready for this?
311
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Did they, you know,
did they send a limo
312
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to take him to wherever
he's going to be on satellite?
313
00:14:16,062 --> 00:14:19,548
I think he's actually --
I'm not making this up.
314
00:14:19,548 --> 00:14:24,415
He is on the Isle of Capri
in Italy
315
00:14:24,415 --> 00:14:29,454
on his AMC expense account,
you know?
316
00:14:29,454 --> 00:14:31,732
Maybe, you know, if he was here,
we could soak him for drinks,
317
00:14:31,732 --> 00:14:33,700
but he's not here.
318
00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:37,428
So if he ever comes here,
Austin, you know, hey,
319
00:14:37,428 --> 00:14:39,430
just pay for a VIP dressing room
or something.
320
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:44,987
So -- of course we don't have
a dressing room,
321
00:14:44,987 --> 00:14:48,888
but, you know, in the future,
we should have one.
322
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♪♪
323
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[Static crackles]
324
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♪♪
325
00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:09,529
♪♪
326
00:15:14,258 --> 00:15:22,300
♪♪
327
00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:30,343
♪♪
328
00:15:30,343 --> 00:15:38,385
♪♪
329
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♪♪
330
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-All right, dirt bags,
now kiss your neighbor
331
00:15:50,846 --> 00:15:53,297
and say, "Thank you
for sharing with me."
332
00:15:53,297 --> 00:15:56,438
[Indistinct shouting]
333
00:15:57,335 --> 00:16:00,338
-Thank you for sharing with me.
I love you.
334
00:16:00,338 --> 00:16:03,410
-Thank you for sharing with me.
I love you.
335
00:16:03,410 --> 00:16:06,862
-And remember,
once you go out those doors,
336
00:16:06,862 --> 00:16:09,727
don't stop to think
about what you feel,
337
00:16:09,727 --> 00:16:12,488
because once you stop to think
about what you feel,
338
00:16:12,488 --> 00:16:14,214
you doubt what you know.
339
00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:16,147
And once you doubt
what you know,
340
00:16:16,147 --> 00:16:17,528
you can assume
you don't know it.
341
00:16:17,528 --> 00:16:19,737
Why?
Because you don't act on it.
342
00:16:19,737 --> 00:16:23,499
Once you know what you know,
you act on it.
343
00:16:23,499 --> 00:16:26,709
[Cheers and applause]
344
00:16:26,709 --> 00:16:28,746
Now, listen to me.
345
00:16:28,746 --> 00:16:31,611
As of 5:00 p.m.,
346
00:16:31,611 --> 00:16:33,406
right now,
347
00:16:33,406 --> 00:16:35,822
you are all graduates
of E.G.O.
348
00:16:35,822 --> 00:16:37,065
Congratulations!
349
00:16:37,065 --> 00:16:38,998
[Cheers and applause]
350
00:16:40,516 --> 00:16:42,829
-It was beautiful.
351
00:16:42,829 --> 00:16:45,590
With us, based on,
like real love.
352
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:47,282
And real feelings.
353
00:16:47,282 --> 00:16:50,216
Man, so many feelings,
all of us.
354
00:16:50,216 --> 00:16:53,702
-That Ernie.
His mother must be so proud.
355
00:16:53,702 --> 00:16:55,669
Such a nice boy.
356
00:16:55,669 --> 00:16:59,432
-And it's like we all had
the materials provided inside us
357
00:16:59,432 --> 00:17:02,366
and God handed them down to us.
358
00:17:02,366 --> 00:17:05,162
Charlie, we've got to split.
359
00:17:05,162 --> 00:17:07,095
You know, it takes like
15 minutes to walk
360
00:17:07,095 --> 00:17:08,406
to the bus station.
361
00:17:08,406 --> 00:17:10,546
-Maybe we get a lift
from somebody, huh?
362
00:17:10,546 --> 00:17:12,203
-Charlie!
-Oh, don't be silly.
363
00:17:12,203 --> 00:17:14,378
I was going to offer you
a lift anyways.
364
00:17:14,378 --> 00:17:16,207
It ain't like I was giving
a ride to strangers.
365
00:17:16,207 --> 00:17:18,313
After all we've been through.
366
00:17:18,313 --> 00:17:27,046
♪♪
367
00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:35,847
♪♪
368
00:17:35,847 --> 00:17:37,918
-You know, after this weekend,
369
00:17:37,918 --> 00:17:41,370
I really realized just how
beautiful people are...
370
00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:43,303
underneath.
371
00:17:43,303 --> 00:17:46,686
-Hey, lady, you like music?
372
00:17:46,686 --> 00:17:49,171
-Oh, sure, sure, sure.
373
00:17:50,276 --> 00:17:58,146
♪♪
374
00:17:58,146 --> 00:18:06,015
♪♪
375
00:18:06,015 --> 00:18:13,920
♪♪
376
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,578
-Is your husband
waiting for you?
377
00:18:16,578 --> 00:18:18,097
-What?
378
00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,271
-I mean, do you live
in the woods all alone?
379
00:18:20,271 --> 00:18:22,411
I'm prying.
380
00:18:22,411 --> 00:18:26,001
It's just that people are
my hobby, right, Charlie?
381
00:18:26,001 --> 00:18:27,692
-Sure.
382
00:18:27,692 --> 00:18:30,454
-Your city folks think because
I'm living out in the way
383
00:18:30,454 --> 00:18:34,596
I'm out of touch, but I say only
happens if you let it.
384
00:18:34,596 --> 00:18:36,977
TV and all, I keep in touch
with everything.
385
00:18:36,977 --> 00:18:38,979
I take what's good
from the city,
386
00:18:38,979 --> 00:18:40,878
and the rest, you can't keep.
387
00:18:40,878 --> 00:18:43,708
And one of the good things is
that nice young man
388
00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:45,745
on the morning news.
389
00:18:45,745 --> 00:18:49,266
I heard all about this here
training from him.
390
00:18:49,852 --> 00:18:51,509
[Car clattering, popping]
391
00:18:51,509 --> 00:18:53,684
Oh!
392
00:18:53,684 --> 00:18:55,272
Damn!
393
00:18:56,583 --> 00:18:58,620
Oh, not again.
394
00:18:58,620 --> 00:19:01,450
Not to worry, honey.
Happens all the time.
395
00:19:01,450 --> 00:19:02,555
-Do you need any help?
396
00:19:02,555 --> 00:19:04,936
-Oh, no, you'll only get
your hands dirty.
397
00:19:04,936 --> 00:19:06,455
Don't you trouble yourself.
398
00:19:06,455 --> 00:19:08,492
[Grunts]
399
00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:13,290
[Door closes]
400
00:19:15,188 --> 00:19:16,672
The hood didn't release.
401
00:19:16,672 --> 00:19:18,881
Can you pull that
doohickey again?
402
00:19:21,436 --> 00:19:29,685
♪♪
403
00:19:29,685 --> 00:19:31,860
-Come on!
-No.
404
00:19:31,860 --> 00:19:40,248
♪♪
405
00:19:40,248 --> 00:19:48,670
♪♪
406
00:19:48,670 --> 00:19:50,292
[Rock music plays]
407
00:19:50,292 --> 00:19:52,743
-Thanks.
408
00:19:52,743 --> 00:19:58,231
♪♪
409
00:19:58,231 --> 00:19:59,715
-[Gasps, screams]
410
00:20:01,407 --> 00:20:03,581
Oh, God!
411
00:20:08,068 --> 00:20:09,518
-[Grunts]
412
00:20:09,518 --> 00:20:11,313
-[Panting]
413
00:20:13,695 --> 00:20:14,592
[Gasping]
414
00:20:14,592 --> 00:20:16,594
-Aaah!
415
00:20:17,561 --> 00:20:19,425
[Groans]
416
00:20:19,425 --> 00:20:21,875
[Grunting]
417
00:20:26,639 --> 00:20:29,780
-Stop it, boy! That's enough.
418
00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,231
-Get off!
419
00:20:32,507 --> 00:20:34,025
You too.
420
00:20:34,025 --> 00:20:36,235
-[Gasping]
421
00:20:39,203 --> 00:20:41,343
[Screams]
422
00:20:50,594 --> 00:20:51,629
Please!
423
00:20:53,562 --> 00:20:55,702
Please don't kill me.
424
00:20:57,601 --> 00:20:59,154
Please. What have I done?
425
00:21:00,224 --> 00:21:02,468
-[Chuckles]
426
00:21:03,192 --> 00:21:04,435
-Please.
427
00:21:04,435 --> 00:21:09,337
-Thank you for sharing with me.
I love you.
428
00:21:09,337 --> 00:21:12,512
♪♪
429
00:21:12,512 --> 00:21:14,376
-[Gasps]
430
00:21:14,376 --> 00:21:22,419
♪♪
431
00:21:22,419 --> 00:21:30,496
♪♪
432
00:21:30,496 --> 00:21:32,843
-[Groans]
433
00:21:35,155 --> 00:21:37,226
[Groans]
434
00:21:40,057 --> 00:21:41,921
-[Laughs]
435
00:21:41,921 --> 00:21:46,339
-Darlings, you have made
your mother very proud.
436
00:21:46,339 --> 00:21:48,928
[Echoing] Proud, proud, proud...
437
00:21:50,964 --> 00:21:57,246
♪♪
438
00:21:57,246 --> 00:22:03,563
♪♪
439
00:22:03,563 --> 00:22:06,014
-Come on! Wait a minute.
440
00:22:06,014 --> 00:22:07,187
[Cheering]
441
00:22:07,187 --> 00:22:09,258
-Adam, will you sit down?
Come on.
442
00:22:09,258 --> 00:22:11,295
-The library,
would you look at us?
443
00:22:11,295 --> 00:22:14,022
-Taking this roll
last semester before finals.
444
00:22:14,022 --> 00:22:16,024
There she is,
Trina hard at work.
445
00:22:16,024 --> 00:22:17,922
-Jesus! Who took that picture?
446
00:22:17,922 --> 00:22:19,545
You two are real sneaks.
447
00:22:19,545 --> 00:22:22,099
-Ralph!
448
00:22:22,099 --> 00:22:24,826
-Now I see why you two
hit it off so well, Trina.
449
00:22:24,826 --> 00:22:27,242
Look! The dorm!
450
00:22:27,242 --> 00:22:29,278
-That one's from
five months ago.
451
00:22:29,278 --> 00:22:31,971
-Oh!
-Our sign!
452
00:22:32,627 --> 00:22:34,076
-You know, I'm working
on a new sign.
453
00:22:34,076 --> 00:22:35,595
It will take up the whole door,
454
00:22:35,595 --> 00:22:37,321
and our names will be
much bigger.
455
00:22:37,321 --> 00:22:39,150
You know, we should have
calling cards and stuff.
456
00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:40,773
-Oh, look at that one.
-So that after we play a joke
457
00:22:40,773 --> 00:22:43,016
on someone or something,
we can just casually
458
00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:44,363
hand them a card.
459
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,847
-Yeah, like,
"Congratulations, you've just
460
00:22:45,847 --> 00:22:47,366
been goofed on by the Rat Pack."
461
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:49,954
-Uh-oh.
-Do you really think that
462
00:22:49,954 --> 00:22:51,300
Paul is sick?
463
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,441
-Abbey Warnet, pot head.
464
00:22:53,441 --> 00:22:55,408
-If my mother
ever saw this picture...
465
00:22:55,408 --> 00:22:58,273
-Now we're going to Jackie's
arty slides.
466
00:22:58,273 --> 00:23:00,413
-Ooh, icky! Change the slide.
467
00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:02,484
-Okay, okay. Look, Mr. Conroy.
468
00:23:02,484 --> 00:23:05,384
-That guy was the worst
teacher in life.
469
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:06,730
-Oh, Jesus, was he ever.
470
00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:08,387
-Jackie, how did you take those
without him seeing?
471
00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:10,147
-Wait, wait, wait. Just watch.
472
00:23:10,147 --> 00:23:14,841
[Laughter]
473
00:23:14,841 --> 00:23:16,153
-Oh, God, look at you!
474
00:23:16,153 --> 00:23:18,362
-My God, the rubber spider.
That one was so great.
475
00:23:18,362 --> 00:23:20,053
-Look at her. She's sleeping
with her mouth open.
476
00:23:20,053 --> 00:23:22,435
-Next morning at 9:00.
477
00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:26,197
-Why am I not not surprised
how immature you two can be
478
00:23:26,197 --> 00:23:27,613
-Hey, what was that?
479
00:23:27,613 --> 00:23:29,304
-The all-American beauty.
480
00:23:29,304 --> 00:23:30,961
-Oh.
-Remember that one?
481
00:23:30,961 --> 00:23:33,826
-Don't be gross, Trina.
What was I seeing then?
482
00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:35,793
Oh, my God.
-Oh, you had a date
483
00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:37,554
after curfew, and we had to
lower you out the window
484
00:23:37,554 --> 00:23:39,314
-Shh!
-And it worked till we get you
485
00:23:39,314 --> 00:23:42,075
all the way to the ground
without a scratch.
486
00:23:42,075 --> 00:23:44,353
-Look, Bill!
-Bill Ford!
487
00:23:44,353 --> 00:23:48,047
Let's keep living together and
having fun, even after college.
488
00:23:48,047 --> 00:23:50,774
-Come on. Can you see us
as 80-year-old roommates?
489
00:23:50,774 --> 00:23:53,052
-At least we can have
Rat Pack reunions.
490
00:23:53,052 --> 00:23:54,709
-I wonder what we will be doing,
491
00:23:54,709 --> 00:23:57,090
you know,
like 10 years from now.
492
00:23:57,090 --> 00:23:59,196
What are our lives
going to be like?
493
00:23:59,196 --> 00:24:02,337
[Laughter]
494
00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:10,172
[Indistinct chatter]
495
00:24:10,172 --> 00:24:12,554
-What's up?!
-Whoo!
496
00:24:17,317 --> 00:24:19,354
-It means a lot.
497
00:24:21,977 --> 00:24:23,427
-We get a lower grade audience.
498
00:24:23,427 --> 00:24:25,222
-Trina, darling, this simply...
499
00:24:28,328 --> 00:24:31,746
-Yee-hoo!
-[Screams]
500
00:24:31,746 --> 00:24:34,576
-There are three rules
in the film business --
501
00:24:34,576 --> 00:24:38,511
distribution, distribution
and distribution.
502
00:24:39,926 --> 00:24:43,551
[Rock music playing]
503
00:24:43,551 --> 00:24:50,834
♪♪
504
00:24:50,834 --> 00:24:58,151
♪♪
505
00:24:58,151 --> 00:25:01,189
-Trina, darling, where did you
find all these attractive men?
506
00:25:01,189 --> 00:25:03,950
-Maggie, I simply told them
you'd be here.
507
00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:05,780
[Laughter]
508
00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:08,472
-I want to hors d'oeuvres
cleared in 15 minutes sharp.
509
00:25:08,472 --> 00:25:10,647
And tell Joshua to stop
jerking off in the kitchen
510
00:25:10,647 --> 00:25:12,062
and bring some ice now.
511
00:25:12,062 --> 00:25:13,304
-Yes, ma'am.
512
00:25:13,304 --> 00:25:15,134
-Jonathan, so nice of you
to make it.
513
00:25:15,134 --> 00:25:17,516
-What was it Kubrick said?
514
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:20,173
The manipulation
of light and color
515
00:25:20,173 --> 00:25:24,350
produces an illusion
of profound intensity?
516
00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:33,946
♪♪
517
00:25:33,946 --> 00:25:35,672
-No, man, you take
the Hollywood Freeway
518
00:25:35,672 --> 00:25:38,157
to Sepulveda,
not Sepulveda Boulevard,
519
00:25:38,157 --> 00:25:39,365
Sepulveda Lane.
520
00:25:39,365 --> 00:25:41,298
-What was it Kubrick said?
521
00:25:41,298 --> 00:25:45,544
-You've got to have gross
points, not net points,
522
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,269
but gross points.
523
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:49,686
-Did you say gross point?
I'm from Gross Point.
524
00:25:49,686 --> 00:25:52,965
-Frank, your party last night
was just incredible.
525
00:25:52,965 --> 00:25:55,415
-Thank you very much.
526
00:25:55,415 --> 00:25:57,694
-Madame, a telegram for you.
527
00:26:26,654 --> 00:26:29,691
-Who is it?!
528
00:26:29,691 --> 00:26:31,141
-It's me, Mother.
529
00:26:31,141 --> 00:26:33,177
-You didn't lock the door?!
530
00:26:33,177 --> 00:26:34,420
-Yes, mother.
531
00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:36,802
-It's about time
you got home, slut!
532
00:26:36,802 --> 00:26:39,011
Your out whoring around
when you know I have to
533
00:26:39,011 --> 00:26:41,358
take my pills at 6:00.
534
00:26:41,358 --> 00:26:43,498
Don't tell me where you been.
535
00:26:43,498 --> 00:26:46,259
I'm a sick woman!
You know that!
536
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:48,468
You never do
a damn thing for me.
537
00:26:48,468 --> 00:26:50,988
After all I've done for you!
538
00:26:50,988 --> 00:26:55,027
If I could walk,
I wouldn't ask you for anything!
539
00:26:55,027 --> 00:26:58,996
But I'm a sick woman!
I'm a sick woman!
540
00:26:58,996 --> 00:27:01,965
I'm a sick woman!
541
00:27:01,965 --> 00:27:03,483
Do you hear me?!
542
00:27:03,483 --> 00:27:05,520
The doctors said I need
help at night.
543
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,004
You know that!
544
00:27:07,004 --> 00:27:09,455
He said I should never
be left alone!
545
00:27:09,455 --> 00:27:12,216
But you don't care about
your own mother!
546
00:27:12,216 --> 00:27:15,841
Do you hear me?!
I'm a sick woman!
547
00:27:15,841 --> 00:27:18,222
[Echoing] I'm a sick woman!
548
00:27:32,892 --> 00:27:35,446
-Hi, Winston.
549
00:27:37,828 --> 00:27:39,727
[Ringing]
550
00:27:39,727 --> 00:27:41,798
-Hello, Jackie,
this is your mother.
551
00:27:41,798 --> 00:27:43,972
I ran into Davey Babcock
last night.
552
00:27:43,972 --> 00:27:45,387
You remember.
553
00:27:45,387 --> 00:27:47,079
Now, I'm not pushing him on you,
554
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,461
but your father thinks he's
going to be very successful.
555
00:27:50,461 --> 00:27:53,395
He'll be calling you.
Trust me on this.
556
00:27:53,395 --> 00:27:55,708
I'm your mother.
-Hi, Jackie.
557
00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:57,710
The accountant says
we still file jointly this year,
558
00:27:57,710 --> 00:27:59,574
even with our divorce.
559
00:27:59,574 --> 00:28:02,439
Sorry I never got back to you.
560
00:28:02,439 --> 00:28:05,960
But, uh, you know
how things are.
561
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,272
[Dial tone]
562
00:28:09,239 --> 00:28:15,555
♪♪
563
00:28:15,555 --> 00:28:17,419
-[Gasps]
564
00:28:26,325 --> 00:28:27,878
-[Groans]
565
00:28:27,878 --> 00:28:31,710
-[Laughs]
-You son of a bitch!
566
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,608
I thought you had
something to do today.
567
00:28:33,608 --> 00:28:36,266
-Yeah, but things came up.
568
00:28:36,266 --> 00:28:38,647
Hey, babe, I thought
you'd be happy to see me.
569
00:28:38,647 --> 00:28:40,339
-I am.
570
00:28:40,339 --> 00:28:41,650
I've got to get going.
571
00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:43,411
-That's cool.
572
00:28:43,411 --> 00:28:45,620
Listen, you mind if
I crash here for the weekend?
573
00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:47,726
Thanks. You're a doll.
574
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,244
Is there anything
I can do for you,
575
00:28:49,244 --> 00:28:50,763
help you pack or something?
576
00:28:50,763 --> 00:28:53,145
-No, thanks. I'm all set.
577
00:28:54,871 --> 00:28:56,700
You know, Jackie, I envy you.
578
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:57,943
-Sure.
-No, really.
579
00:28:57,943 --> 00:29:00,669
I wish I could work
a steady job.
580
00:29:00,669 --> 00:29:04,397
I don't know, sometimes I wish
I wasn't so sensitive.
581
00:29:04,397 --> 00:29:06,675
-Yeah.
-That I didn't have so much
582
00:29:06,675 --> 00:29:09,126
art in me.
583
00:29:09,126 --> 00:29:12,267
You don't realize how hard it is
on a male ego to stay in bed
584
00:29:12,267 --> 00:29:14,822
while his lover
goes off to work.
585
00:29:17,445 --> 00:29:20,551
You know I'd work 9-to-5
if I could, but...
586
00:29:20,551 --> 00:29:22,726
[Sniffs]
587
00:29:24,452 --> 00:29:27,179
...that damn theater
just won't let go.
588
00:29:27,179 --> 00:29:30,872
One question.
Where do you keep your razor?
589
00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:33,495
-Look on the side of
the bath tub.
590
00:29:33,495 --> 00:29:35,981
-Listen, Ted,
I'll be seeing you.
591
00:29:42,711 --> 00:29:44,817
-I love you.
592
00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:46,888
-Alright, take care.
593
00:29:53,653 --> 00:29:55,690
-Have a good weekend, Winston.
594
00:29:55,690 --> 00:29:57,865
-Yeah, sure, I'm supposed to
have a good weekend
595
00:29:57,865 --> 00:29:59,521
stuck here in the city.
596
00:29:59,521 --> 00:30:01,730
-Hey, if you're free for the
weekend, there's a lot going on.
597
00:30:01,730 --> 00:30:03,525
This is New York.
598
00:30:03,525 --> 00:30:07,736
-Free for the weekend?
Free for the weekend?
599
00:30:07,736 --> 00:30:09,186
Free for the weekend?!
600
00:30:09,186 --> 00:30:12,811
I'll never be free as long
as I'm a Black man in America!
601
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:16,884
-[Singing indistinctly]
602
00:30:16,953 --> 00:30:20,197
-Rockefeller makes
a million dollars a day!
603
00:30:20,197 --> 00:30:23,683
-Rockefeller makes a million
dollars a day!
604
00:30:23,683 --> 00:30:26,997
Rockefeller makes a million
dollars a day!
605
00:30:26,997 --> 00:30:30,276
Rockefeller makes a million
dollars a day!
606
00:30:30,276 --> 00:30:32,140
[Woman continues singing]
607
00:30:34,004 --> 00:30:37,214
[Engine revs]
608
00:30:37,214 --> 00:30:40,528
[Rock music playing]
609
00:30:40,528 --> 00:30:47,569
♪♪
610
00:30:47,569 --> 00:30:54,576
♪♪
611
00:30:54,576 --> 00:31:01,687
♪♪
612
00:31:01,687 --> 00:31:05,794
-Hey, you things from the
Hoboken Historical Society?
613
00:31:05,794 --> 00:31:08,245
I've been going for 20 years...
614
00:31:08,245 --> 00:31:10,351
[continues indistinctly]
615
00:31:10,351 --> 00:31:11,352
[Engine revs]
616
00:31:11,352 --> 00:31:13,872
[Horn honks]
617
00:31:17,289 --> 00:31:18,531
-Hey!
618
00:31:18,531 --> 00:31:20,879
You know where a girl
can get laid around here?
619
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,639
-Nice of you to show up, Jackie.
620
00:31:22,639 --> 00:31:25,400
-Jackie!
-God, you look good.
621
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,850
-My cable said we were
supposed to meet at 2:00.
622
00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:28,196
What'd yours say, Abbey?
623
00:31:28,196 --> 00:31:30,681
-Well, mine did say 2:00.
624
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,339
-Hey, you two pills are lucky
I even showed up at all.
625
00:31:33,339 --> 00:31:35,617
-Real nice of you to drop by.
626
00:31:35,617 --> 00:31:37,688
Abbey and I were just getting
into the unspoiled
627
00:31:37,688 --> 00:31:40,795
natural beauty of --
where the hell are we anyway?
628
00:31:40,795 --> 00:31:43,384
-Uh, Rexburg, New Jersey.
629
00:31:43,384 --> 00:31:45,179
-Well, I don't know about
the two of you,
630
00:31:45,179 --> 00:31:47,491
but I'm getting out of here.
-Wait for me.
631
00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:57,363
♪♪
632
00:31:57,363 --> 00:31:58,778
-Now, where are we going?
633
00:31:58,778 --> 00:32:00,677
It can't be
any place around here.
634
00:32:00,677 --> 00:32:02,955
This is awful.
-I'm not telling. It's a secret.
635
00:32:02,955 --> 00:32:05,026
-Are we going skin diving?
636
00:32:05,026 --> 00:32:08,719
-It's so good to be
with you two again.
637
00:32:08,719 --> 00:32:10,998
-Aw!
-I still have that
638
00:32:10,998 --> 00:32:13,000
garnet necklace that
you gave us last year.
639
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,622
-Mine too.
-It's so nice.
640
00:32:14,622 --> 00:32:16,072
-I never take mine off.
641
00:32:16,072 --> 00:32:17,349
-Jackie.
-What?
642
00:32:17,349 --> 00:32:18,729
-You're still wearing your ring.
643
00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:21,215
-Oh, I can't believe it.
That tacky school ring?
644
00:32:21,215 --> 00:32:24,045
-All right. On with the bags.
645
00:32:24,045 --> 00:32:26,703
-Oh, my God. You mean we have
to put these on again?
646
00:32:26,703 --> 00:32:28,118
-Come on, Jackie.
647
00:32:28,118 --> 00:32:29,464
Couldn't we just forget it
this year?
648
00:32:29,464 --> 00:32:32,053
-And have you know
where we're going? Never.
649
00:32:32,053 --> 00:32:33,330
-Oh, pew, Jackie.
650
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:35,091
What do you keep in these bags?
Kitty litter?
651
00:32:35,091 --> 00:32:37,369
-Just shut up and put the bags
over your heads.
652
00:32:37,369 --> 00:32:39,612
Come on. Both of you.
653
00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:42,684
-Hey, which way do you guys
want to go? Left or right?
654
00:32:42,684 --> 00:32:44,755
I got a decision. Quick.
Come on, quick. Which way?
655
00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:47,517
-You know where we're going.
Got to be left of right.
656
00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:49,484
-Left, right? Right.
657
00:32:49,484 --> 00:32:52,073
No, no, left!
658
00:32:52,073 --> 00:32:53,626
[Tires squeal]
659
00:32:53,626 --> 00:32:56,940
[Banjo playing]
660
00:32:59,184 --> 00:33:00,633
-Pit stop!
661
00:33:00,633 --> 00:33:03,705
-We want beer! We want beer!
662
00:33:03,705 --> 00:33:07,123
We want beer!
We want beer!
663
00:33:13,439 --> 00:33:15,821
[Door closes]
664
00:33:15,821 --> 00:33:18,444
-Hi.
665
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,807
-Thanks, but that'll be
all for today.
666
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:38,085
How much?
667
00:33:38,085 --> 00:33:40,501
Oh, by the way,
how far is it to Deep Barrens?
668
00:33:40,501 --> 00:33:41,640
-You alone?
669
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,367
-No. With friends?
Two of them.
670
00:33:44,367 --> 00:33:45,954
How far is it to Deep Barrens?
671
00:33:45,954 --> 00:33:48,681
-Why do you want
to go up there, lady?
672
00:33:48,681 --> 00:33:52,616
Don't go messing up
in Deep Barrens.
673
00:33:54,860 --> 00:33:55,895
Oh, look.
674
00:33:55,895 --> 00:33:57,828
-What?
675
00:33:58,829 --> 00:34:00,728
Oh, Jesus!
676
00:34:00,728 --> 00:34:02,488
I thought I told you two
to stay in the car.
677
00:34:02,488 --> 00:34:05,181
-Jackie!
678
00:34:05,181 --> 00:34:06,768
Jackie?
679
00:34:06,768 --> 00:34:09,219
-Aaah!
680
00:34:18,125 --> 00:34:19,747
-[Speaks indistinctly]
681
00:34:19,988 --> 00:34:21,576
God, you guys.
682
00:34:21,576 --> 00:34:23,578
Wait a minute, whoa, whoa.
Hold up.
683
00:34:23,578 --> 00:34:26,064
Both of you. Here we go.
684
00:34:30,585 --> 00:34:33,312
It's all right.
We're all college roommates.
685
00:34:34,382 --> 00:34:36,764
Jesus.
686
00:34:36,764 --> 00:34:37,627
[Clattering]
687
00:34:37,627 --> 00:34:39,249
-Hm.
688
00:34:41,907 --> 00:34:43,150
[Girls laughing]
689
00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:47,326
You get what you deserve,
ya "les-beens"!
690
00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:52,090
You won't be causing
no one no trouble no more!
691
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,401
[Static crackles]
692
00:34:56,335 --> 00:34:57,888
-Yo, Yuki.
693
00:34:57,888 --> 00:34:59,062
[Static]
694
00:34:59,062 --> 00:35:02,928
Uh, yeah, um, Eli Roth is in...
695
00:35:02,928 --> 00:35:04,999
He's actually in Italy.
696
00:35:04,999 --> 00:35:07,174
He's on the Isle of Capri.
697
00:35:07,174 --> 00:35:09,659
Do we got to bounce that baby
off the --
698
00:35:09,659 --> 00:35:11,454
you go over the poles,
you bounce that baby
699
00:35:11,454 --> 00:35:13,352
off the Norway satellite.
700
00:35:13,352 --> 00:35:16,010
-I'm working on it. I'm on it.
701
00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:17,632
-All right, good.
702
00:35:20,256 --> 00:35:23,086
-"Don't go mixing up in
the Deep Barrens,"
703
00:35:23,086 --> 00:35:24,984
says the guy whose job it is
to tell the campers
704
00:35:24,984 --> 00:35:27,987
not to do whatever it is
they're about to do.
705
00:35:27,987 --> 00:35:31,474
One interesting thing about this
movie is that the three stars,
706
00:35:31,474 --> 00:35:36,099
Trina, Abbey, and Jackie,
are known only for this movie.
707
00:35:36,099 --> 00:35:37,997
Jackie, the one with
the creep boyfriend
708
00:35:37,997 --> 00:35:40,966
who never gets a break,
is played by Deborah Luce.
709
00:35:40,966 --> 00:35:43,693
And this is her
only movie role ever.
710
00:35:43,693 --> 00:35:46,799
Nancy Hendrickson as Abbey,
the Chicago woman who has
711
00:35:46,799 --> 00:35:49,699
to take care of the sick mother
who yells at her all the time,
712
00:35:49,699 --> 00:35:52,219
this is her only film credit.
713
00:35:52,219 --> 00:35:54,117
And Trina,
the blonde on roller skates
714
00:35:54,117 --> 00:35:56,050
who runs the pool party
in Beverly Hills,
715
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:57,741
and I'm not sure what that was.
716
00:35:57,741 --> 00:35:59,087
Are we supposed to think
she runs a high end
717
00:35:59,087 --> 00:36:00,951
escort service or something?
718
00:36:00,951 --> 00:36:04,990
She is played by Tiana Pierce,
who had two other
719
00:36:04,990 --> 00:36:07,303
very small roles
and then left the business.
720
00:36:07,303 --> 00:36:10,375
And by the way, the older
gentleman at the pool party
721
00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:13,792
doing the line of cocaine,
that's Stanley Kaufman,
722
00:36:13,792 --> 00:36:16,484
father of director
Charles Kaufman
723
00:36:16,484 --> 00:36:20,902
and his brother Lloyd Kaufman
as well as Susan Kaufman,
724
00:36:20,902 --> 00:36:22,525
the Kaufman brother's sister,
725
00:36:22,525 --> 00:36:24,837
who serves as production
designer on the film.
726
00:36:24,837 --> 00:36:29,463
This was Kaufman-palooza
out there in the Jersey Woods.
727
00:36:29,463 --> 00:36:31,499
During the slide show
when they're giggling
728
00:36:31,499 --> 00:36:34,122
about their college pranks
and their fun times,
729
00:36:34,122 --> 00:36:38,368
the teacher is Charles Kaufman,
doing his Hitchcock moment,
730
00:36:38,368 --> 00:36:39,473
if you were wondering.
731
00:36:39,473 --> 00:36:40,784
But I'm talking like
732
00:36:40,784 --> 00:36:42,855
I have insider
"Mother's Day" knowledge,
733
00:36:42,855 --> 00:36:46,273
when we have here with us
tonight film historian,
734
00:36:46,273 --> 00:36:52,244
director, writer, bon vivant,
raconteur Eli Roth.
735
00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:54,212
Hi there, Eli.
736
00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:55,765
What I haven't told them yet
is that we're showing
737
00:36:55,765 --> 00:36:58,526
this movie specifically
because you said
738
00:36:58,526 --> 00:36:59,803
it's one of your favorites.
739
00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:02,012
I believe you said
that when you were a kid,
740
00:37:02,012 --> 00:37:04,808
it was the favorite
of the movies you loved,
741
00:37:04,808 --> 00:37:08,571
and you called it at one time
a, quote, "masterpiece."
742
00:37:08,571 --> 00:37:11,367
-That is entirely true.
I stand by all of it.
743
00:37:11,367 --> 00:37:14,611
I believe the film
is truly a masterpiece.
744
00:37:14,611 --> 00:37:16,268
It was for one reason
or another,
745
00:37:16,268 --> 00:37:19,167
I can't explain why it became
my absolute obsession
746
00:37:19,167 --> 00:37:20,721
and favorite movie as a kid.
747
00:37:20,721 --> 00:37:22,481
I showed it at my bar mitzvah.
748
00:37:22,481 --> 00:37:23,655
-Wait!
749
00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:26,347
You showed this movie
at your bar mitzvah.
750
00:37:26,347 --> 00:37:27,728
Why?
751
00:37:27,728 --> 00:37:29,108
-Because I wasn't friends
with any girls
752
00:37:29,108 --> 00:37:30,627
so I couldn't have a dance,
so everyone else
753
00:37:30,627 --> 00:37:33,389
was having dances,
so I rented arcade machines,
754
00:37:33,389 --> 00:37:35,322
and we showed "Mother's Day."
755
00:37:35,322 --> 00:37:38,670
And I have like 5-year-old
cousins from Scarsdale
756
00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:40,534
who were completely
traumatized.
757
00:37:40,534 --> 00:37:42,881
I mean, you have all
the '80s Jewish parents
758
00:37:42,881 --> 00:37:46,229
with the big hair upstairs
and all the kids in the basement
759
00:37:46,229 --> 00:37:47,575
are watching.
760
00:37:47,575 --> 00:37:49,888
Now, I think about it.
and it was just bananas,
761
00:37:49,888 --> 00:37:52,511
but it's sort of because
the movie was so inappropriate
762
00:37:52,511 --> 00:37:55,134
to love, it made us love it
that much more.
763
00:37:55,134 --> 00:37:58,034
-Eli, how many people
were at your bar mitzvah?
764
00:37:58,034 --> 00:37:59,898
How many kids had to see that?
765
00:37:59,898 --> 00:38:01,555
-It was about 40.
766
00:38:01,555 --> 00:38:03,522
I was a little fat Jewish kid,
767
00:38:03,522 --> 00:38:07,457
so it was like 40 or 50
of my super nerd friends.
768
00:38:07,457 --> 00:38:10,218
And my friend Jeff Rendell,
who I wrote my "Mother's Day"
769
00:38:10,218 --> 00:38:11,668
Thanksgiving fake trailer with,
770
00:38:11,668 --> 00:38:14,464
which was very much inspired --
I mean, the Thanksgiving
771
00:38:14,464 --> 00:38:16,017
was very much inspired
by "Mother's Day" --
772
00:38:16,017 --> 00:38:17,398
the font, the letters.
773
00:38:17,398 --> 00:38:19,642
We looked at the lighting
of the way they lit the shots.
774
00:38:19,642 --> 00:38:21,954
I really was trying
to get the "Mother's Day" look,
775
00:38:21,954 --> 00:38:24,405
Jeff got me that videotape
for my bar mitzvah,
776
00:38:24,405 --> 00:38:26,614
and it was like 40
or 50 of us screaming,
777
00:38:26,614 --> 00:38:28,892
cheering, eating pizza,
and I just thought,
778
00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:30,515
[high-pitched voice]
"I'm a man now."
779
00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:33,103
[Normal voice] Like,
this is like being a man is.
780
00:38:33,103 --> 00:38:34,519
-Well, sure.
781
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,762
I mean, "Mother's Day"
is an important rite of passage
782
00:38:36,762 --> 00:38:41,974
for every 13-year-old's first
steps into the adult world.
783
00:38:41,974 --> 00:38:45,219
-Then, of course, I grew up
to meet Charles Kaufman
784
00:38:45,219 --> 00:38:46,876
and ask him all the questions
about "Mother's Day."
785
00:38:46,876 --> 00:38:48,222
It was amazing.
786
00:38:48,222 --> 00:38:50,983
-Now, your first movie
was the great "Cabin Fever."
787
00:38:50,983 --> 00:38:52,675
We love "Cabin Fever" here.
788
00:38:52,675 --> 00:38:54,159
-Thank you very much.
789
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:56,575
-And you did not go into
the wilds of New Jersey, though,
790
00:38:56,575 --> 00:38:59,337
but you did go into the wilds
of North Carolina,
791
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,477
and you had a few
of the standard
792
00:39:01,477 --> 00:39:02,685
"spam in the cabin" themes.
793
00:39:02,685 --> 00:39:04,859
We call this genre
"spam in a cabin."
794
00:39:04,859 --> 00:39:07,483
You had the stop
at the general store.
795
00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,864
-You better get the warning
from the old man.
796
00:39:09,864 --> 00:39:12,350
[Imitating old man] "You get
what you deserve, you lesbians!"
797
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,386
[Normal voice] Like,
"Friday the 13th" had it.
798
00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:15,525
"Mother's Day" had it.
799
00:39:15,525 --> 00:39:18,079
I sat down,
when I wrote "Cabin Fever",
800
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,359
and I watched every cabin movie
and the camp movie,
801
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:22,877
and I wrote them structurally.
802
00:39:22,877 --> 00:39:25,535
Scene one, packing and leaving,
scene two, the general store.
803
00:39:25,535 --> 00:39:26,950
Scene three,
arrival at the cabin.
804
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:29,228
Scene four, there's some sex
and hankie panky.
805
00:39:29,228 --> 00:39:30,851
First bit of mischief.
806
00:39:30,851 --> 00:39:32,784
And I noticed that
they all had certain things
807
00:39:32,784 --> 00:39:35,165
in common structurally,
so I really like --
808
00:39:35,165 --> 00:39:36,650
-In other words,
you were shameless.
809
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:39,342
You were really shameless
about doing the formula.
810
00:39:39,342 --> 00:39:41,413
-Well, I was worried
I couldn't film
811
00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:42,932
90 minutes of dialogue.
812
00:39:42,932 --> 00:39:44,692
It's hard when -- I wrote
it when I was 22.
813
00:39:44,692 --> 00:39:46,591
So I wrote the story
when I was 19,
814
00:39:46,591 --> 00:39:48,178
and then the movie
when I was 22,
815
00:39:48,178 --> 00:39:49,456
and I was like,
"How do you write a movie?"
816
00:39:49,456 --> 00:39:51,699
Well, you basically look at
a blueprint of your
817
00:39:51,699 --> 00:39:53,977
favorite movie and go, "I want
it to kind of be like that."
818
00:39:53,977 --> 00:39:55,427
And then you write
your own characters
819
00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:57,256
and your own personal
experiences into it.
820
00:39:57,256 --> 00:39:59,811
But then I forgot how much
I stole from the movie
821
00:39:59,811 --> 00:40:01,260
until I rewatched it.
822
00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:03,401
I was like, "What if we did
these weird flashes to red?
823
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,540
And then I watched
"Mother's Day",
824
00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:06,231
I was like, "Oh, yeah."
825
00:40:06,231 --> 00:40:08,889
It's like all these little
things that are such deep
826
00:40:08,889 --> 00:40:10,546
programing in your DNA.
827
00:40:10,546 --> 00:40:12,858
It happens like
in every movie you do,
828
00:40:12,858 --> 00:40:15,171
like, you suddenly will go back
and rewatch "Mother's Day"
829
00:40:15,171 --> 00:40:18,726
and be like, "Huh, I completely
took that for 'Mother's Day.'"
830
00:40:18,726 --> 00:40:21,177
-Well, you do. You have
the warning in the woods.
831
00:40:21,177 --> 00:40:23,386
You have the scary rednecks.
832
00:40:23,386 --> 00:40:26,458
What you did not do, though,
is you did not build the story
833
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,805
around the evil redneck
blood lust,
834
00:40:28,805 --> 00:40:30,807
which is what a lot
of these films have.
835
00:40:30,807 --> 00:40:34,915
I think you combined Sam Raimi's
spam in the cabin with
836
00:40:34,915 --> 00:40:37,124
Tobe Hooper spam in the cabinet.
837
00:40:37,124 --> 00:40:39,782
But what I want to know is,
what do you remember
838
00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:41,646
getting specifically
from "Mother's Day"?
839
00:40:41,646 --> 00:40:44,959
-Well, Ike and Addley I thought
were the greatest
840
00:40:44,959 --> 00:40:46,133
characters ever.
841
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:47,893
And so I do have
some redneck bloodlust
842
00:40:47,893 --> 00:40:50,965
because no one in "Cabin Fever"
dies from the disease.
843
00:40:50,965 --> 00:40:53,899
That's kind of the joke,
is that they die from panic.
844
00:40:53,899 --> 00:40:55,004
They die from shooting
each other,
845
00:40:55,004 --> 00:40:56,419
smash in the face with a shovel.
846
00:40:56,419 --> 00:40:59,284
And they die from pissing off
the locals, the rednecks,
847
00:40:59,284 --> 00:41:01,631
because they come in like
they're much smarter than them.
848
00:41:01,631 --> 00:41:03,322
And then, of course,
they beg them for help.
849
00:41:03,322 --> 00:41:05,117
-Right.
-It's interesting because
850
00:41:05,117 --> 00:41:07,361
I tried to track down
Michael McCleery,
851
00:41:07,361 --> 00:41:11,089
the actor who plays
who plays Addley,
852
00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:12,918
and I really wanted to find Ike.
853
00:41:12,918 --> 00:41:15,783
And Ike, on IMDB, is listed as
Frederick Coffin,
854
00:41:15,783 --> 00:41:17,613
but it is not Frederick Coffin.
855
00:41:17,613 --> 00:41:20,512
The guy's name is Gary --
and I want to say Gary Lockwood.
856
00:41:20,512 --> 00:41:22,031
But it's not.
857
00:41:22,031 --> 00:41:25,034
But a guy I know is like
a crazy "Mother's Day" nut
858
00:41:25,034 --> 00:41:26,794
who tracked down Tiana Pierce,
859
00:41:26,794 --> 00:41:29,728
and apparently she was
having a thing with him.
860
00:41:29,728 --> 00:41:31,661
-With the actor
that played Ike?
861
00:41:31,661 --> 00:41:35,078
-They're like Ike --
Ike and Trina were actually
862
00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:36,597
an item during the shooting.
863
00:41:36,597 --> 00:41:38,634
So she remembers
his name was Gary
864
00:41:38,634 --> 00:41:40,325
and that he was on
"Edge of Night",
865
00:41:40,325 --> 00:41:43,570
which was also starring
Niles McMaster.
866
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:45,295
So I've been looking
for these episodes
867
00:41:45,295 --> 00:41:49,748
because I believe there might be
a soap opera crossover
868
00:41:49,748 --> 00:41:52,268
between the future stars
of "Bloodsucking Freaks"
869
00:41:52,268 --> 00:41:53,580
and "Mother's Day."
870
00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:55,305
So I have not found it.
871
00:41:55,305 --> 00:41:58,205
-Wow, that'd be a star studded
crossover event
872
00:41:58,205 --> 00:41:59,689
for people like us.
873
00:41:59,689 --> 00:42:01,070
-And then when I met
Charles Kaufman,
874
00:42:01,070 --> 00:42:04,142
then they told me they made
the movie for $150,000.
875
00:42:04,142 --> 00:42:06,282
They shot it at the same lake
where they shot
876
00:42:06,282 --> 00:42:08,249
"Friday the 13th",
literally across the lake,
877
00:42:08,249 --> 00:42:09,285
at the same time.
878
00:42:09,285 --> 00:42:11,218
They had a joint
wrap party together.
879
00:42:11,218 --> 00:42:12,944
Sorry if I'm ruining your facts
you're going to say
880
00:42:12,944 --> 00:42:14,152
about the movie.
-Not at all.
881
00:42:14,152 --> 00:42:16,326
-But I remember thinking, like,
882
00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:20,538
"I want to go in the woods,
make a movie with my friends."
883
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,643
But the pattern, for sure,
was "Evil Dead."
884
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:24,438
I was like, "Okay, you're
a zombie,
885
00:42:24,438 --> 00:42:26,336
you're with your friends,
you have to kill your friend.
886
00:42:26,336 --> 00:42:27,821
But it's the thing that's inside
of your friend."
887
00:42:27,821 --> 00:42:30,271
And sort of the loss
of control of the body.
888
00:42:30,271 --> 00:42:33,136
-All right, well, "Cabin Fever"
was a hell of a first movie.
889
00:42:33,136 --> 00:42:36,381
I mean, you said you were
inspired by getting a rash
890
00:42:36,381 --> 00:42:37,900
where your skin falls off
891
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:41,213
during a family vacation
in Iceland?
892
00:42:41,213 --> 00:42:44,665
-Yes, I was working on a horse
farm in Selfoss, Iceland,
893
00:42:44,665 --> 00:42:47,599
when I was 19 years old,
and I was with my brother Adam.
894
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,395
And one night, I'm like
sitting there scratching,
895
00:42:50,395 --> 00:42:52,880
and in the middle of the night,
it's bright like this.
896
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,261
So I'm scratching,
I'm scratching,
897
00:42:54,261 --> 00:42:56,643
and I just felt this weird itch,
and I looked at my hand,
898
00:42:56,643 --> 00:42:59,266
and there were just chunks
of flesh
899
00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:01,544
under my fingernails in my hand.
900
00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:03,511
And so then I went to shave,
and I literally
901
00:43:03,511 --> 00:43:05,168
shaved half of my face off.
902
00:43:05,168 --> 00:43:06,549
-Yikes.
-And I thought,
903
00:43:06,549 --> 00:43:08,655
"Wow, this would make
a really cool horror movie."
904
00:43:08,655 --> 00:43:10,967
And I went to see
a doctor in Iceland.
905
00:43:10,967 --> 00:43:13,211
And if you're ever in
a foreign country at a hospital
906
00:43:13,211 --> 00:43:14,661
where you don't speak
the language,
907
00:43:14,661 --> 00:43:16,455
the last thing you want
is for the doctor
908
00:43:16,455 --> 00:43:17,871
to look at you like...
909
00:43:17,871 --> 00:43:19,735
[Laughter]
910
00:43:19,735 --> 00:43:20,977
Which is exactly what happened.
911
00:43:20,977 --> 00:43:23,048
But thank God it was some
kind of infection.
912
00:43:23,048 --> 00:43:24,671
It was not
necrotizing fasciitis,
913
00:43:24,671 --> 00:43:28,226
which is what I based
the "Cabin Fever" one on.
914
00:43:28,226 --> 00:43:30,849
But I had this ringworm,
and it just tore my face off.
915
00:43:30,849 --> 00:43:34,232
-All right, well, you have
that Icelandic character
916
00:43:34,232 --> 00:43:36,234
in "Hostel."
917
00:43:36,234 --> 00:43:38,305
-Of course.
-You have an Iceland thing.
918
00:43:38,305 --> 00:43:40,203
The only Icelander I ever met
919
00:43:40,203 --> 00:43:43,413
was Gunnar Hansen,
the original Leatherface.
920
00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:45,692
So I guess, yeah,
it makes an odd sort of sense.
921
00:43:45,692 --> 00:43:48,591
Viking stock.
But you're from Boston.
922
00:43:48,591 --> 00:43:50,558
-Yeah. Newton.
923
00:43:50,558 --> 00:43:51,801
-Tell us briefly,
because we have
924
00:43:51,801 --> 00:43:53,458
a lot of filmmakers
who watch the show.
925
00:43:53,458 --> 00:43:56,426
They wonder, how do you find
a million and a half dollars
926
00:43:56,426 --> 00:43:58,014
for your very first feature?
927
00:43:58,014 --> 00:43:59,878
I mean, low budget.
928
00:43:59,878 --> 00:44:01,915
But for our guys,
that's not a low budget.
929
00:44:01,915 --> 00:44:03,088
You had that big cash.
930
00:44:03,088 --> 00:44:04,814
You had money
for special effects.
931
00:44:04,814 --> 00:44:06,920
How did you raise
that first million and a half?
932
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,335
-It was really hard.
933
00:44:08,335 --> 00:44:10,682
I mean, like, raising the money
for a movie is difficult.
934
00:44:10,682 --> 00:44:12,926
Okay, so at 22,
I write the script,
935
00:44:12,926 --> 00:44:15,169
and then I sat down
with a lawyer and I go,
936
00:44:15,169 --> 00:44:17,793
"Can you help me put together,
how do I raise money?"
937
00:44:17,793 --> 00:44:20,347
And I basically went around
to -- I was living in
938
00:44:20,347 --> 00:44:22,004
New York City, I had graduated
film school.
939
00:44:22,004 --> 00:44:23,902
I had my student film,
which was like
940
00:44:23,902 --> 00:44:25,835
a student Academy Award
winner called
941
00:44:25,835 --> 00:44:28,286
"Restaurant Dogs",
which was a Tarantino parody.
942
00:44:28,286 --> 00:44:30,564
I was the original
Tarantino rip off.
943
00:44:30,564 --> 00:44:32,946
And I would show that film
and show my script and go,
944
00:44:32,946 --> 00:44:34,223
"Please give me money."
945
00:44:34,223 --> 00:44:36,259
And for six years,
people said no.
946
00:44:36,259 --> 00:44:38,917
-But you can't take no
for an answer, can you?
947
00:44:38,917 --> 00:44:43,025
-You just have to have a script,
have a plan, have confidence,
948
00:44:43,025 --> 00:44:44,889
and okay, you don't know anyone
who has money.
949
00:44:44,889 --> 00:44:48,271
All right. So what did I do?
I was on sets. I got coffee.
950
00:44:48,271 --> 00:44:50,688
Finally, we met Sam Froelich,
who was a producer
951
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:52,241
out of North Carolina,
and he's like,
952
00:44:52,241 --> 00:44:54,899
"I can put up
the first $200,000.
953
00:44:54,899 --> 00:44:56,314
We're like,
"Great, let's start."
954
00:44:56,314 --> 00:44:59,420
And then we shot the movie,
and I edited the movie together,
955
00:44:59,420 --> 00:45:02,354
but we still needed $300,000
to finish it.
956
00:45:02,354 --> 00:45:05,806
And there was a group
of investors in Connecticut
957
00:45:05,806 --> 00:45:07,256
that were going to
give us the money.
958
00:45:07,256 --> 00:45:08,636
And we were on
the sound mixing stage,
959
00:45:08,636 --> 00:45:10,397
and we'd been accepted
to the Toronto Film Festival.
960
00:45:10,397 --> 00:45:12,399
We're like, "This is our chance.
We can sell the movie.
961
00:45:12,399 --> 00:45:14,228
What do we do?"
We're in the mixing stage.
962
00:45:14,228 --> 00:45:15,643
They're like, "We didn't
get your money."
963
00:45:15,643 --> 00:45:18,716
We're like waiting for this
wire, and we call this guy.
964
00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:20,510
He's showing it
to his 12-year-old son.
965
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:21,995
-Oh. Oh, no.
966
00:45:21,995 --> 00:45:23,479
And the 12-year-old kid goes,
967
00:45:23,479 --> 00:45:24,791
"Dad, this is better
than 'American Pie.'"
968
00:45:24,791 --> 00:45:26,585
And he goes,
"Okay, wire the money."
969
00:45:26,585 --> 00:45:28,967
Literally the entire --
my entire career
970
00:45:28,967 --> 00:45:30,417
was in the hands
of a 12-year-old.
971
00:45:30,417 --> 00:45:31,936
It's like something
out of a David Lynch movie,
972
00:45:31,936 --> 00:45:34,179
where you go to see
the cowboy at the ranch,
973
00:45:34,179 --> 00:45:36,078
and he makes a phone call,
and your movie's back on.
974
00:45:36,078 --> 00:45:38,977
But it's what we had to do.
It took six years, though.
975
00:45:38,977 --> 00:45:42,705
-And does it help to go to
NYU or Tisch?
976
00:45:42,705 --> 00:45:44,880
You're supposed to call it
"Tisch" now.
977
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,192
-Tisch School of the Arts.
It helped me.
978
00:45:47,192 --> 00:45:48,538
I mean, here's the thing.
979
00:45:48,538 --> 00:45:51,852
I'm immature now, so you can
imagine me at 18.
980
00:45:51,852 --> 00:45:53,267
The great thing
about film school
981
00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:55,580
is it's a really safe way
to make mistakes.
982
00:45:55,580 --> 00:45:57,030
You know, you talk to Tarantino,
983
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:58,756
he watch movies
in a video store.
984
00:45:58,756 --> 00:45:59,929
I mean, he's a very
special case.
985
00:45:59,929 --> 00:46:02,518
He didn't need it.
It wasn't right for him.
986
00:46:02,518 --> 00:46:05,383
But for me, I was a kid
that did well in school,
987
00:46:05,383 --> 00:46:07,212
and I liked the structure
of that.
988
00:46:07,212 --> 00:46:09,490
But a lot of the people
on my first movies
989
00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:11,527
and even up through "The House
with a Clock in Its Walls"
990
00:46:11,527 --> 00:46:13,529
are friends that I made
in film school.
991
00:46:13,529 --> 00:46:15,462
-Well, one reason I ask is
that I hosted one
992
00:46:15,462 --> 00:46:17,602
of those Stephen King
Dollar Baby festivals,
993
00:46:17,602 --> 00:46:20,122
you know, where Stephen King
gives student filmmakers
994
00:46:20,122 --> 00:46:23,470
the right to film one of his
short stories for one dollar,
995
00:46:23,470 --> 00:46:25,644
just as long as they don't
release it commercially.
996
00:46:25,644 --> 00:46:29,407
And the kid from
NYU spent $80,000
997
00:46:29,407 --> 00:46:30,753
on a 10-minute short film.
998
00:46:30,753 --> 00:46:33,618
So I go,
"Wow, some of these guys
999
00:46:33,618 --> 00:46:35,620
had resources there, I guess."
1000
00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:37,898
-There's always that kid.
That was a big problem.
1001
00:46:37,898 --> 00:46:40,728
And in fact, after I graduated,
they put time limits
1002
00:46:40,728 --> 00:46:43,766
and money limits because
you'd have these rich kids,
1003
00:46:43,766 --> 00:46:46,838
and one kid spend $110,000
on a student film,
1004
00:46:46,838 --> 00:46:49,496
and it's like $110,000
piece of crap.
1005
00:46:49,496 --> 00:46:51,291
I mean, it was terrible.
1006
00:46:51,291 --> 00:46:53,638
I spent maybe 8 grand, 10 grand.
1007
00:46:53,638 --> 00:46:55,157
I worked as
a resident assistant,
1008
00:46:55,157 --> 00:46:56,779
so I didn't -- I was an R.A.,
so I didn't
1009
00:46:56,779 --> 00:46:58,160
have to spend housing money.
1010
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,162
So I used that
to make my student film.
1011
00:47:00,162 --> 00:47:03,130
I mean, I saved up for years.
1012
00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:07,790
-Okay, well which is
better, USC or NYU?
1013
00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:12,553
-I liked NYU only because
at USC, it's crazy competitive.
1014
00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:13,831
At NYU, everyone shoots.
1015
00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,418
If you want to make a movie,
you can.
1016
00:47:15,418 --> 00:47:17,248
And at USC, everyone pitches,
1017
00:47:17,248 --> 00:47:19,422
and only a few projects
get picked,
1018
00:47:19,422 --> 00:47:20,838
and those are the ones
that get crewed.
1019
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:23,461
And that, I think,
was for most of the kids,
1020
00:47:23,461 --> 00:47:24,634
that was a big thing.
1021
00:47:24,634 --> 00:47:26,291
-Well, that actually
makes sense.
1022
00:47:26,291 --> 00:47:28,224
All right, let's get back
to the movie.
1023
00:47:28,224 --> 00:47:29,777
Roll the film.
1024
00:47:29,777 --> 00:47:33,195
And send in your questions
for Eli.
1025
00:47:33,195 --> 00:47:34,817
Darcy, get us those questions,
1026
00:47:34,817 --> 00:47:37,993
especially if they're about
"don't go on vacation" movies.
1027
00:47:37,993 --> 00:47:40,650
Will anybody actually
travel with you, Eli?
1028
00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:41,997
-I love travel horror.
1029
00:47:41,997 --> 00:47:44,102
I'm really interested
in clash of culture.
1030
00:47:44,102 --> 00:47:45,724
I usually have a nice time
when I travel,
1031
00:47:45,724 --> 00:47:48,313
but I always think it's all fun
until it isn't.
1032
00:47:48,313 --> 00:47:51,144
And you always have that moment
where you walk into a room
1033
00:47:51,144 --> 00:47:53,940
and the people stop talking
or they're talking
1034
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:55,389
in their language
and they're looking at you
1035
00:47:55,389 --> 00:47:56,874
and you know
they're looking at you.
1036
00:47:56,874 --> 00:47:59,152
I think it's just great
opportunities for Americans
1037
00:47:59,152 --> 00:48:01,637
to embarrass themselves and get
into all kinds of trouble.
1038
00:48:01,637 --> 00:48:03,328
-Well, it feels like people
would think twice
1039
00:48:03,328 --> 00:48:06,228
before accepting an invitation
to go anywhere with you.
1040
00:48:06,228 --> 00:48:10,059
You know, hey, going to Prague?
I don't think so, Eli.
1041
00:48:10,059 --> 00:48:12,165
You know, want to go down
to the Amazon with me?
1042
00:48:12,165 --> 00:48:15,685
"Nah, Eli, we'll just have
coffee or something."
1043
00:48:15,685 --> 00:48:16,859
-But yeah, the tourist boards
are like,
1044
00:48:16,859 --> 00:48:19,379
"Please stop making movies
about us.
1045
00:48:19,379 --> 00:48:21,691
Like, just no more. No more."
1046
00:48:21,691 --> 00:48:23,555
[Laughter]
1047
00:48:28,215 --> 00:48:29,561
[Static crackles]
1048
00:48:29,561 --> 00:48:34,256
♪♪
1049
00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:38,916
♪♪
1050
00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:40,987
-All clear.
-You got to be kidding me.
1051
00:48:40,987 --> 00:48:42,609
-Come on. We'll never get there.
1052
00:48:42,609 --> 00:48:45,508
-Wait a minute.
Let me put this beer can down.
1053
00:48:45,508 --> 00:48:48,580
-Oh.
1054
00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:51,135
-Whoa.
-How you doing back there?
1055
00:48:51,135 --> 00:48:52,722
-[Groans]
1056
00:48:52,722 --> 00:48:54,172
Okay.
1057
00:48:54,172 --> 00:48:56,519
-Gee, we'll be able to find
our way back from
1058
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:57,900
all these beer cans.
1059
00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:59,557
-Oh.
-I'm serious, Jackie.
1060
00:48:59,557 --> 00:49:02,974
If we're still in New Jersey,
I must see the Newark Library.
1061
00:49:02,974 --> 00:49:05,494
-Oh, hey, did you guys
lock the car doors?
1062
00:49:05,494 --> 00:49:08,221
-Jackie, don't be so paranoid.
We're not in a city.
1063
00:49:14,365 --> 00:49:17,644
-This is great, Jackie.
1064
00:49:17,644 --> 00:49:19,197
-Wait!
-Wait!
1065
00:49:19,197 --> 00:49:22,960
I can't bring this.
-No stopping! No stopping!
1066
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,618
[Laughter]
1067
00:49:26,618 --> 00:49:28,172
-That's awful.
1068
00:49:28,172 --> 00:49:31,209
Remember the time when we used
to put Jackie the sleeping bag
1069
00:49:31,209 --> 00:49:34,454
when she was gonna meet --
-Yeah, and you almost
1070
00:49:34,454 --> 00:49:36,180
dropped me every single time.
1071
00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:37,871
Watch it, Trina.
1072
00:49:37,871 --> 00:49:40,632
We could hardly pick up that bag
she was so fat.
1073
00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:42,220
I noticed you lost
a lot of weight.
1074
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:44,774
-That'll teach me to say things
like that.
1075
00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:48,571
-♪ Mountain lodge ♪
1076
00:49:49,089 --> 00:49:50,366
-Jackie!
1077
00:49:50,366 --> 00:49:52,541
-You make me take one more step,
and you'll be served
1078
00:49:52,541 --> 00:49:55,302
with a summons from my
podiatrist when we get back.
1079
00:49:55,302 --> 00:49:58,409
-Move to Bev Hills and already
you forgot how to walk.
1080
00:49:58,409 --> 00:50:01,239
-Gee, what's Paul Williams
really like?
1081
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,312
-Hey, no one's forcing you
to live in these septic tanks.
1082
00:50:05,312 --> 00:50:07,107
You've chosen the grit.
1083
00:50:07,107 --> 00:50:10,110
-And I have chosen the glamour.
1084
00:50:10,110 --> 00:50:11,560
-Watch out! It's bear doodie
over there!
1085
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,595
-[Screams]
1086
00:50:12,595 --> 00:50:15,219
[Laughter]
1087
00:50:15,460 --> 00:50:17,462
-This is gonna be
a long weekend.
1088
00:50:17,462 --> 00:50:20,707
[Laughter]
1089
00:50:23,882 --> 00:50:26,437
Hey, wait for me!
1090
00:50:32,615 --> 00:50:41,659
♪♪
1091
00:50:41,659 --> 00:50:43,557
-Welcome to our weekend.
1092
00:50:43,557 --> 00:50:46,905
-Oh, Jackie, it's perfect.
1093
00:50:46,905 --> 00:50:52,083
♪♪
1094
00:50:52,083 --> 00:50:57,295
♪♪
1095
00:50:57,295 --> 00:50:59,815
-You mean they don't have them
in Brazil?
1096
00:50:59,815 --> 00:51:01,644
-No.
1097
00:51:01,644 --> 00:51:02,818
[Coughs]
1098
00:51:03,715 --> 00:51:05,890
These weekends are
the only times I ever get
1099
00:51:05,890 --> 00:51:07,409
stoned anymore.
1100
00:51:07,409 --> 00:51:10,205
-Aren't you getting a little
tired of this whole thing?
1101
00:51:10,205 --> 00:51:12,931
I mean, last year's
was ridiculous.
1102
00:51:12,931 --> 00:51:15,762
I brought a whole suitcase
of summer clothes with me.
1103
00:51:15,762 --> 00:51:18,075
We went skiing.
1104
00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:19,904
-What about Budapest?
1105
00:51:19,904 --> 00:51:22,700
-Jackie, I told you,
outside the United States,
1106
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:24,564
they don't have marshmallows.
1107
00:51:24,564 --> 00:51:28,775
-But it's like the only
really American food.
1108
00:51:28,775 --> 00:51:30,639
-Wow!
1109
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:32,399
-Next year's your year, right?
1110
00:51:32,399 --> 00:51:35,885
-Yeah. I'm getting a little
bored with this whole thing.
1111
00:51:35,885 --> 00:51:38,543
I mean, once a year,
no matter what,
1112
00:51:38,543 --> 00:51:39,958
we drop everything
and get together
1113
00:51:39,958 --> 00:51:42,547
for our little mystery
weekend together.
1114
00:51:42,547 --> 00:51:44,687
Aren't we getting
a little too old for it?
1115
00:51:44,687 --> 00:51:47,034
-You wouldn't really think
of not showing up one year,
1116
00:51:47,034 --> 00:51:48,864
would you?
1117
00:51:48,864 --> 00:51:52,039
I mean, sometimes I think
that these weekends
1118
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:56,078
are the only thing that keeps me
sane from one year to the next.
1119
00:51:57,631 --> 00:51:59,840
-Where's Jackie?
1120
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,704
-Jackie?
1121
00:52:01,704 --> 00:52:03,913
Jackie?
-Jackie?
1122
00:52:03,913 --> 00:52:05,708
-Where are you?
1123
00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:07,331
-Jackie?
1124
00:52:09,574 --> 00:52:11,921
Jackie, are you all right?
1125
00:52:11,921 --> 00:52:14,372
[Screams]
1126
00:52:15,753 --> 00:52:18,169
-Oh, my God.
1127
00:52:20,447 --> 00:52:22,484
-[Laughs]
1128
00:52:22,484 --> 00:52:23,657
What's the matter?
1129
00:52:23,657 --> 00:52:26,384
Can't I tinkle without
asking permission?
1130
00:52:26,384 --> 00:52:29,525
-What, do you always carry
a knife when you take a leak?
1131
00:52:29,525 --> 00:52:30,837
-Sure.
1132
00:52:30,837 --> 00:52:33,046
It's a jungle out there.
1133
00:52:33,046 --> 00:52:34,427
-What are you afraid of?
1134
00:52:34,427 --> 00:52:37,154
Being jumped by a gang of wild
Puerto Rican chickens?
1135
00:52:37,154 --> 00:52:40,122
Look, Jackie, one weekend
a year, you can relax.
1136
00:52:40,122 --> 00:52:43,436
When you're with the Rat Pack,
no one dumps on you.
1137
00:52:43,436 --> 00:52:45,921
-Hey, you talking to me?
1138
00:52:45,921 --> 00:52:47,888
Are you talking to me?
1139
00:52:47,888 --> 00:52:49,511
I know how to handle myself.
1140
00:52:49,511 --> 00:52:54,412
-Oh, yeah. Like with with...
with -- oh, what was his name?
1141
00:52:54,412 --> 00:52:56,794
-Christ.
-Don't bring that up again.
1142
00:52:56,794 --> 00:52:59,797
-Yeah, Jackie.
What was his name?
1143
00:52:59,797 --> 00:53:01,419
-Dobson.
1144
00:53:01,419 --> 00:53:03,835
Brad Dobson.
1145
00:53:03,835 --> 00:53:06,942
His name is Brad Dobson...
1146
00:53:06,942 --> 00:53:08,737
-But everybody calls him
Dobber.
1147
00:53:08,737 --> 00:53:10,290
-Dobber. [Laughs]
1148
00:53:10,290 --> 00:53:11,567
What an asshole.
1149
00:53:11,567 --> 00:53:13,983
-Goodbye, Dobber.
1150
00:53:13,983 --> 00:53:17,159
-You know, I don't know if this
is really the way to do it.
1151
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:19,920
-Jackie, this guy's been
shitting on you for six months.
1152
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,336
-There he is!
-Where?
1153
00:53:21,336 --> 00:53:23,338
-Oh, God.
1154
00:53:27,928 --> 00:53:29,758
-Hey, doll. Give me a kiss.
1155
00:53:29,758 --> 00:53:31,311
-Brad, not here.
1156
00:53:31,311 --> 00:53:33,865
-Okay, okay, I can wait.
1157
00:53:33,865 --> 00:53:35,695
Come on.
1158
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:41,563
This is awesome, babe.
It's awesome.
1159
00:53:42,633 --> 00:53:45,567
You know, I once pitched
a no hitter against SC
1160
00:53:45,567 --> 00:53:47,189
on this month.
1161
00:53:47,189 --> 00:53:49,605
It's the same mound where
you and I are going to be
1162
00:53:49,605 --> 00:53:51,711
doing the dirty deed.
1163
00:53:51,711 --> 00:53:53,402
-Brad!
1164
00:53:53,402 --> 00:53:58,131
-Uh-huh. Yeah.
1165
00:53:58,131 --> 00:54:00,616
You know, Jack,
I got to hand it to you.
1166
00:54:00,616 --> 00:54:03,654
You held out a lot longer
than most broads.
1167
00:54:03,654 --> 00:54:05,587
Showed an amazing
amount of control.
1168
00:54:05,587 --> 00:54:08,935
-Hey, Brad,
I forgot the body oils.
1169
00:54:12,007 --> 00:54:14,389
-Hey, I thought I told you
you can call me Dobber.
1170
00:54:14,389 --> 00:54:17,115
-Yeah, right.
1171
00:54:17,115 --> 00:54:20,774
-Hey, we'll be waiting for you.
1172
00:54:20,774 --> 00:54:23,812
-♪ Trying to get away
into the night ♪
1173
00:54:23,812 --> 00:54:25,779
♪ And then you put
your arms around me ♪
1174
00:54:25,779 --> 00:54:28,713
♪ And we tumble to the ground
and then you say ♪
1175
00:54:28,713 --> 00:54:31,682
♪ I think we're alone now ♪
1176
00:54:31,682 --> 00:54:35,996
♪ There doesn't seem
to be anyone around ♪
1177
00:54:35,996 --> 00:54:38,896
♪ I think we're alone now ♪
1178
00:54:38,896 --> 00:54:42,831
♪ The beating of our hearts
is the only sound ♪
1179
00:54:42,831 --> 00:54:44,522
[Clears throat]
1180
00:54:47,007 --> 00:54:50,597
♪ Look at the way ♪
1181
00:54:50,597 --> 00:54:54,291
♪ We got to hide
what we're doin' ♪
1182
00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:56,154
♪ 'Cause what would they say ♪
1183
00:54:56,154 --> 00:54:58,191
[Laughter]
1184
00:54:58,191 --> 00:55:00,918
♪ If they ever knew
and so we're ♪
1185
00:55:00,918 --> 00:55:02,402
[Laughter]
1186
00:55:02,402 --> 00:55:04,646
♪ Running just as fast
as we can ♪
1187
00:55:04,646 --> 00:55:06,682
♪ Holding on to
one another hands ♪
1188
00:55:06,682 --> 00:55:08,443
-My gosh.
1189
00:55:08,443 --> 00:55:11,756
♪ Trying to get away
into the night ♪
1190
00:55:11,756 --> 00:55:13,551
-Good evening,
ladies and gentlemen,
1191
00:55:13,551 --> 00:55:16,934
and welcome to
Well Springs Memorial Stadium.
1192
00:55:16,934 --> 00:55:19,626
It's a beautiful night
for our first annual
1193
00:55:19,626 --> 00:55:21,318
asshole invitational.
1194
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:22,526
And there off.
1195
00:55:22,526 --> 00:55:24,631
Tonight, we're thrilled to
present that guy
1196
00:55:24,631 --> 00:55:29,326
who dreams in instant replay,
the biggest asshole on campus,
1197
00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:32,708
Brad "Call me Dobber" Dobson.
1198
00:55:32,708 --> 00:55:35,228
And there goes Dobson now.
1199
00:55:35,228 --> 00:55:38,714
Ladies and gentlemen,
just look at that boy run.
1200
00:55:38,714 --> 00:55:40,889
Such flair, such grace.
1201
00:55:40,889 --> 00:55:43,650
Have you ever seen
anything like it?
1202
00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:45,031
-Oh!
1203
00:55:45,031 --> 00:55:49,553
♪ The beating of our hearts
is the only sound ♪
1204
00:55:49,553 --> 00:55:50,416
-How rad!
1205
00:55:50,416 --> 00:55:52,210
-Pack forever.
1206
00:55:52,210 --> 00:55:54,074
-Rats.
-Forever.
1207
00:55:54,074 --> 00:55:55,559
-Rat. Pack. Forever.
1208
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:57,664
-Rat. Pack. Forever.
-Rat. Pack. Forever.
1209
00:55:57,664 --> 00:55:59,217
[Laughter]
1210
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,980
-Oh, poor Jackie.
1211
00:56:02,980 --> 00:56:05,741
Men were always
pushing you around.
1212
00:56:05,741 --> 00:56:07,053
-Men?
1213
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:10,539
Being pushed around
is the story of Jackie's life.
1214
00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:14,992
-You know, sometimes I wish
1215
00:56:14,992 --> 00:56:18,098
I still had the Rat Pack
to protect me.
1216
00:56:18,098 --> 00:56:21,308
-Remember when we were seniors
and Trina brought in that
1217
00:56:21,308 --> 00:56:23,794
calendar with the pictures
of all the men with no clothes?
1218
00:56:23,794 --> 00:56:25,416
-Oh, God!
1219
00:56:25,416 --> 00:56:28,523
-[Heavy breathing]
1220
00:56:29,213 --> 00:56:30,835
-Bet she never saw a naked man.
1221
00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:31,802
[Laughter]
1222
00:56:31,802 --> 00:56:32,803
-Probably not.
1223
00:56:32,803 --> 00:56:41,190
♪♪
1224
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:49,578
♪♪
1225
00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:24,164
♪♪
1226
00:57:24,164 --> 00:57:32,897
♪♪
1227
00:57:32,897 --> 00:57:41,630
♪♪
1228
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:50,397
♪♪
1229
00:57:58,198 --> 00:58:01,547
-[Screams]
1230
00:58:03,169 --> 00:58:05,482
[Screaming]
1231
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,519
Oh!
1232
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:10,763
Trina!
1233
00:58:11,073 --> 00:58:13,938
This is...the rest of my life!
1234
00:58:13,938 --> 00:58:15,630
[Laughter]
1235
00:58:16,423 --> 00:58:18,115
[Shouting indistinctly]
1236
00:58:31,128 --> 00:58:33,475
-You guys! Come on!
1237
00:58:33,475 --> 00:58:35,166
[Screaming]
1238
00:58:43,968 --> 00:58:45,901
[Laughter]
1239
00:58:45,901 --> 00:58:48,214
Here, Jackie.
1240
00:58:48,214 --> 00:58:49,905
[Laughter]
1241
00:58:54,323 --> 00:58:56,636
[Heavy breathing]
1242
00:58:56,636 --> 00:59:00,226
♪♪
1243
00:59:00,226 --> 00:59:02,297
[Laughter]
1244
00:59:02,297 --> 00:59:04,057
-Oh, yeah.
1245
00:59:04,057 --> 00:59:12,514
♪♪
1246
00:59:12,514 --> 00:59:13,653
Shh.
1247
00:59:13,653 --> 00:59:15,931
[Laughter]
1248
00:59:15,931 --> 00:59:20,418
♪♪
1249
00:59:20,418 --> 00:59:23,145
-You know, we could really
make this place into something.
1250
00:59:23,145 --> 00:59:26,183
Six lanes of blacktop
right there to the lake.
1251
00:59:26,183 --> 00:59:28,772
Pave that whole area
there for a parking lot.
1252
00:59:28,772 --> 00:59:30,739
Maybe a taco stand here.
1253
00:59:30,739 --> 00:59:32,741
Some landfill shopping centers.
1254
00:59:32,741 --> 00:59:33,846
Casinos.
1255
00:59:33,846 --> 00:59:35,364
-Aw, Jackie.
1256
00:59:35,364 --> 00:59:36,434
Look at that little fish
over there.
1257
00:59:36,434 --> 00:59:37,677
He's so cute.
1258
00:59:37,677 --> 00:59:39,541
He's just swimming around
the rocks there. Look.
1259
00:59:39,541 --> 00:59:40,887
-Where?
-Underneath the rocks.
1260
00:59:40,887 --> 00:59:42,751
Look, he's right
over by your line.
1261
00:59:42,751 --> 00:59:44,684
-Aah! I got. Aah!
1262
00:59:44,684 --> 00:59:46,859
My God. I got. Wait, wait, wait,
I got him. I got him.
1263
00:59:46,859 --> 00:59:48,515
No, you have to do this.
You have to turn him around.
1264
00:59:48,515 --> 00:59:50,621
I know. Okay, I remember.
I got it.
1265
00:59:50,621 --> 00:59:52,899
-'Cause I thought --
-God, look how big he is!
1266
00:59:52,899 --> 00:59:54,832
I don't believe it!
I got him! I got him!
1267
00:59:54,832 --> 00:59:58,042
No, I got him, I got him.
Look at him.
1268
00:59:58,042 --> 00:59:59,112
Look at him! Look at him!
1269
00:59:59,112 --> 01:00:00,769
-Oh, Jackie, you got him!
-Aah!
1270
01:00:00,769 --> 01:00:02,046
-Look at him.
What do you think it is?
1271
01:00:02,046 --> 01:00:03,323
-Oh, he's beautiful.
What is it?
1272
01:00:03,323 --> 01:00:04,221
-I think it's a Boston...
1273
01:00:04,221 --> 01:00:06,464
-God!
1274
01:00:06,464 --> 01:00:07,983
-[Screams]
1275
01:00:07,983 --> 01:00:09,019
-Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
1276
01:00:09,019 --> 01:00:12,229
-[Screams]
-He's not gonna bite!
1277
01:00:12,229 --> 01:00:14,300
God! No!
1278
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:15,784
-It's a goddamn trout.
1279
01:00:28,107 --> 01:00:30,040
-Thanks, Trina.
1280
01:00:31,144 --> 01:00:33,112
Thanks, Jackie.
1281
01:00:33,112 --> 01:00:34,665
-You're welcome.
1282
01:00:34,665 --> 01:00:36,184
-What for?
1283
01:00:36,184 --> 01:00:39,118
-I've never thanked you/
1284
01:00:39,118 --> 01:00:41,741
-For what?
1285
01:00:41,741 --> 01:00:44,157
-For being my friends.
1286
01:00:44,157 --> 01:00:48,196
For getting me to do things
I wouldn't do by myself,
1287
01:00:48,196 --> 01:00:50,716
for making me feel like
somebody.
1288
01:00:50,716 --> 01:00:51,820
-You're welcome.
1289
01:00:51,820 --> 01:00:54,547
-But you are somebody, Abbey.
1290
01:00:54,547 --> 01:00:56,238
We only let you see that.
1291
01:00:56,238 --> 01:00:58,551
[Screams]
1292
01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:02,141
-What's going on?!
1293
01:01:03,383 --> 01:01:05,627
-Let me out! Get off me!
1294
01:01:05,627 --> 01:01:07,664
[Screams]
1295
01:01:10,011 --> 01:01:11,840
[Screams]
1296
01:01:13,462 --> 01:01:16,155
Jesus! What the hell is this?!
1297
01:01:16,224 --> 01:01:18,536
[Indistinct shouting]
1298
01:01:18,536 --> 01:01:20,159
[Screaming]
1299
01:01:22,989 --> 01:01:26,441
-Jackie, what's happening?!
1300
01:01:26,441 --> 01:01:28,374
[Screaming]
1301
01:01:31,653 --> 01:01:33,655
[Screaming]
1302
01:01:42,871 --> 01:01:46,254
[Indistinct shouting]
1303
01:01:46,254 --> 01:01:48,497
-Who is this?!
1304
01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:49,740
[Screams]
1305
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:52,087
God damn it!
1306
01:01:52,087 --> 01:01:53,848
Stop it!
1307
01:01:55,435 --> 01:01:57,714
Aah!
1308
01:01:58,300 --> 01:01:59,819
Abbey!
1309
01:01:59,819 --> 01:02:01,821
Abbey, are you there?
1310
01:02:01,821 --> 01:02:03,927
What's happening?
1311
01:02:03,927 --> 01:02:05,583
Jackie?
1312
01:02:08,103 --> 01:02:09,104
[Screams]
1313
01:02:09,104 --> 01:02:10,796
[Static crackles]
1314
01:02:10,796 --> 01:02:14,765
-And so the inciting incident
comes 33 minutes
1315
01:02:14,765 --> 01:02:18,044
into the movie
as our three snappy patter girls
1316
01:02:18,044 --> 01:02:19,632
are bagged in their
sleeping bags
1317
01:02:19,632 --> 01:02:21,599
and dragged deeper
into the Barrens
1318
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:25,017
by two guys who look scary,
mainly because they look crazy.
1319
01:02:25,017 --> 01:02:26,984
I think it's that
leather aviator helmet
1320
01:02:26,984 --> 01:02:28,123
that Ike wears.
1321
01:02:28,123 --> 01:02:30,401
Like Howard Hughes
flying the Spruce Goose.
1322
01:02:30,401 --> 01:02:33,266
Where would a Jersey hillbilly
even find that thing?
1323
01:02:33,266 --> 01:02:35,372
Which is the point, of course.
1324
01:02:35,372 --> 01:02:36,822
I want to mention
a couple of things.
1325
01:02:36,822 --> 01:02:40,170
When they go into the woods,
there's a big sign that says,
1326
01:02:40,170 --> 01:02:44,312
"Entering the Deep Barrens.
Proceed at your own risk."
1327
01:02:44,312 --> 01:02:48,212
Like there are warning signs
on wooded areas.
1328
01:02:48,212 --> 01:02:50,697
I mean, maybe there should be,
but that's almost like something
1329
01:02:50,697 --> 01:02:53,079
you'd find in
a Roadrunner cartoon.
1330
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:56,117
And then they have
lots of camera breathing.
1331
01:02:56,117 --> 01:02:59,396
You know, where the POV camera
sounds like it has asthma.
1332
01:02:59,396 --> 01:03:00,742
And correct me if I'm wrong,
1333
01:03:00,742 --> 01:03:04,125
but I think the skinny dipping
scene is a direct steal
1334
01:03:04,125 --> 01:03:05,609
from "I Spit On Your Grave."
1335
01:03:05,609 --> 01:03:08,439
Same shot from the opposite
bank of the river.
1336
01:03:08,439 --> 01:03:11,546
But the main thing is, Eli,
1337
01:03:11,546 --> 01:03:14,238
this is "Hostel 2", right?
1338
01:03:14,238 --> 01:03:16,654
-Oh, yeah.
1339
01:03:16,654 --> 01:03:18,242
Yeah, it is.
1340
01:03:18,242 --> 01:03:19,657
Of course it's "Hostel 2."
1341
01:03:19,657 --> 01:03:21,211
I didn't even think of that,
1342
01:03:21,211 --> 01:03:24,559
But "Hostel 2", I wanted
to look like a 1973-74
1343
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,355
Sergio Martino giallo film.
1344
01:03:27,355 --> 01:03:29,322
I shot it to look like "Torso."
1345
01:03:29,322 --> 01:03:31,566
Kind of the opening scenes
with the piazza
1346
01:03:31,566 --> 01:03:33,188
and the way he shoots
in the tracking shots
1347
01:03:33,188 --> 01:03:34,776
and the telephoto lenses.
1348
01:03:34,776 --> 01:03:36,640
But man, now that you say it --
1349
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,194
it's weird because there's
such deep programing
1350
01:03:39,194 --> 01:03:41,438
from watching that movie
so many times
1351
01:03:41,438 --> 01:03:44,096
that I don't realize that
I'm remaking "Mother's Day"
1352
01:03:44,096 --> 01:03:45,649
over and over and over.
1353
01:03:45,649 --> 01:03:47,754
I swear to you,
I'm not conscious of it.
1354
01:03:47,754 --> 01:03:49,584
-Well, you certainly
like the slow build up.
1355
01:03:49,584 --> 01:03:51,897
Nothing happens till 33 minutes
in this film.
1356
01:03:51,897 --> 01:03:53,726
You like to make us
love the characters
1357
01:03:53,726 --> 01:03:56,971
before you destroy
the characters, don't you?
1358
01:03:56,971 --> 01:03:59,870
-Well, I think that
we're there for a certain thing,
1359
01:03:59,870 --> 01:04:03,046
but if you really take time
to get to know the characters,
1360
01:04:03,046 --> 01:04:05,496
you care about it
when something happens to them.
1361
01:04:05,496 --> 01:04:10,225
If you've done a good job,
or even if you don't like them,
1362
01:04:10,225 --> 01:04:11,917
you know, you're happy
to see them get it.
1363
01:04:11,917 --> 01:04:15,161
-And your equivalent of
the leather aviator helmet
1364
01:04:15,161 --> 01:04:18,855
would be in "Hostel 1",
those tight, shiny
1365
01:04:18,855 --> 01:04:21,202
leather jackets that the guys
in Eastern Europe wear,
1366
01:04:21,202 --> 01:04:23,273
you know,
brawny guy, tight jackets.
1367
01:04:23,273 --> 01:04:25,068
You do a great job casting guys
1368
01:04:25,068 --> 01:04:27,139
that just -- they just
look like killers,
1369
01:04:27,139 --> 01:04:29,141
and all they're doing
is getting out of a car
1370
01:04:29,141 --> 01:04:30,383
or walking down a hallway.
1371
01:04:30,383 --> 01:04:31,591
Do you know
what I'm talking about?
1372
01:04:31,591 --> 01:04:33,007
-Oh, I know what you're
talking about,
1373
01:04:33,007 --> 01:04:35,699
because first of all, I looked
for Members Only jackets.
1374
01:04:35,699 --> 01:04:38,633
I really tried very hard
to find those.
1375
01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:41,498
I had a whole thing
where I was like, at first,
1376
01:04:41,498 --> 01:04:42,982
I used a lot of crew members.
1377
01:04:42,982 --> 01:04:45,364
So there's a guy like named
Karel who has this voice
1378
01:04:45,364 --> 01:04:46,641
like this smoking.
1379
01:04:46,641 --> 01:04:48,332
I mean, the guy is just amazing,
his voice.
1380
01:04:48,332 --> 01:04:51,266
I used him doing the voice
the puppet show in "Hostel 2"
1381
01:04:51,266 --> 01:04:53,061
where he's saying
the most offensive things
1382
01:04:53,061 --> 01:04:56,444
you can say in Slovak
during the puppet show.
1383
01:04:56,444 --> 01:04:57,755
Like, the crew member
couldn't believe that
1384
01:04:57,755 --> 01:05:00,758
I was like having children
laughing at the puppets.
1385
01:05:00,758 --> 01:05:02,968
I'll meet the weirdest
looking crew member
1386
01:05:02,968 --> 01:05:05,418
and be like, "You have to be
in the film."
1387
01:05:05,418 --> 01:05:08,663
-Sometimes non-actors, though,
are just the way to go with you.
1388
01:05:08,663 --> 01:05:10,630
-Then in "Cabin Fever",
we just wandered around,
1389
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:12,770
like, the big guy who
gets a screwdriver in his ear,
1390
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:15,601
in my Romero rip-off moment,
1391
01:05:15,601 --> 01:05:17,672
we found him wandering around
a grocery store,
1392
01:05:17,672 --> 01:05:19,536
and it turns out
he had just been released
1393
01:05:19,536 --> 01:05:21,055
from a mental institution
1394
01:05:21,055 --> 01:05:24,196
for driving his daddy's
tractor 'round town.
1395
01:05:24,196 --> 01:05:26,681
But he was very excited
to work with Rider Strong,
1396
01:05:26,681 --> 01:05:28,372
who he referred to as
"Boy Meets World."
1397
01:05:28,372 --> 01:05:30,098
He's like, "I'm going to be in
a movie with Boy Meets World!"
1398
01:05:30,098 --> 01:05:31,444
And I was like,
"Yeah, Boy Meets World
1399
01:05:31,444 --> 01:05:32,894
is going to put a screwdriver
through your head."
1400
01:05:32,894 --> 01:05:34,344
He's like, "Oh, man, oh, man!"
1401
01:05:34,344 --> 01:05:38,451
So often a lot of the people
that are those extras,
1402
01:05:38,451 --> 01:05:40,522
that's my favorite part
of making the movie,
1403
01:05:40,522 --> 01:05:42,800
is like trying to make
that person famous.
1404
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,319
They love it.
1405
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:47,874
-Did you have some bad
experiences in Slovakia
1406
01:05:47,874 --> 01:05:49,221
at some point in your life?
1407
01:05:49,221 --> 01:05:52,327
Can you even go to Slovakia
safely at this point?
1408
01:05:52,327 --> 01:05:55,710
Have they ever invited you
to the Bratislava Film Festival?
1409
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:57,574
And would you trust them
if they did?
1410
01:05:57,574 --> 01:05:59,403
-I fully -- I owned it.
1411
01:05:59,403 --> 01:06:01,923
I called for a press conference
with every Czech
1412
01:06:01,923 --> 01:06:04,581
and Slovak writer,
1413
01:06:04,581 --> 01:06:06,272
and I showed the movie,
and I was like,
1414
01:06:06,272 --> 01:06:08,102
"I just want to explain myself.
1415
01:06:08,102 --> 01:06:11,001
You can all hate the movie,
but this movie is pointing out
1416
01:06:11,001 --> 01:06:13,486
the ridiculousness of Americans
rather than Slovakians."
1417
01:06:13,486 --> 01:06:15,178
And it actually was
a big hit over there, so...
1418
01:06:15,178 --> 01:06:17,594
-Did they buy that?
1419
01:06:17,594 --> 01:06:19,354
-They bought it.
1420
01:06:19,354 --> 01:06:22,012
-Okay, one "Hostel" question,
and then we'll move on.
1421
01:06:22,012 --> 01:06:25,326
Why does an American cost more?
1422
01:06:25,326 --> 01:06:26,879
I think I know
the answer to this,
1423
01:06:26,879 --> 01:06:29,019
but I've never
heard it explained.
1424
01:06:29,019 --> 01:06:32,126
-Well, because the Americans
don't travel as much.
1425
01:06:32,126 --> 01:06:35,888
Getting from America
to Slovakia is hard.
1426
01:06:35,888 --> 01:06:37,510
You have to find people
with passports,
1427
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:39,996
which is I think now
12% of Americans.
1428
01:06:39,996 --> 01:06:41,549
Then you have to find people
that want to travel
1429
01:06:41,549 --> 01:06:44,621
and then people
that want to travel to Slovakia.
1430
01:06:44,621 --> 01:06:47,210
So it's almost like
that's the rarest thing.
1431
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:48,176
And it's like --
1432
01:06:48,176 --> 01:06:49,902
-So Americans are just exotic?
1433
01:06:49,902 --> 01:06:51,835
-In Slovakia,
Americans are exotic.
1434
01:06:51,835 --> 01:06:53,423
-Because there's that thing
with Europeans,
1435
01:06:53,423 --> 01:06:56,184
especially when they're being
really, really nice to you,
1436
01:06:56,184 --> 01:06:58,945
that underlying sense
that they would like to kill you
1437
01:06:58,945 --> 01:07:01,638
because, A, you're a tourist,
and, B, they think
1438
01:07:01,638 --> 01:07:04,779
you're shallow because all
Americans are shallow, and, C,
1439
01:07:04,779 --> 01:07:07,126
they're forced to talk to you
because they need your money.
1440
01:07:07,126 --> 01:07:08,645
Would you agree with that?
1441
01:07:08,645 --> 01:07:10,405
-Yeah, I would.
There's also a thing where
1442
01:07:10,405 --> 01:07:13,684
when there's an American room,
there's certain cultures,
1443
01:07:13,684 --> 01:07:16,515
like in Chile, when if you're
the American in the room
1444
01:07:16,515 --> 01:07:19,069
and you don't speak Spanish,
they'll all speak English,
1445
01:07:19,069 --> 01:07:20,898
and, like, they make
accommodations.
1446
01:07:20,898 --> 01:07:23,970
They're very polite, the
Europeans and South Americans.
1447
01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:25,593
But yeah, it drives them crazy.
1448
01:07:25,593 --> 01:07:27,940
And for sure, you know,
that they're thinking like,
1449
01:07:27,940 --> 01:07:30,839
"Just give me your money,
you stupid tourist."
1450
01:07:30,839 --> 01:07:33,014
-All right.
Do we have your seal of approval
1451
01:07:33,014 --> 01:07:36,259
for Charles Kaufman's character
build up?
1452
01:07:36,259 --> 01:07:39,020
-I'm all about it.
I love the slow build.
1453
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:40,677
Because, by the way,
you know the audience
1454
01:07:40,677 --> 01:07:42,403
is getting mad at you,
and I like that.
1455
01:07:42,403 --> 01:07:44,922
I like people going, "When's
this movie going to start?"
1456
01:07:44,922 --> 01:07:46,752
Because that's when you get 'em.
1457
01:07:46,752 --> 01:07:48,064
-And by the way,
as you probably know,
1458
01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:49,686
Charles Kaufman today
1459
01:07:49,686 --> 01:07:54,000
is an extremely successful baker
in San Diego.
1460
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,866
He makes 10,000 pounds
of bread each day
1461
01:07:57,866 --> 01:08:00,283
or 5 million loaves a year,
1462
01:08:00,283 --> 01:08:04,114
plus dozens of varieties
of French pastries and pies.
1463
01:08:04,114 --> 01:08:07,152
So Charles goes from working
on the "Bob Hope Show"
1464
01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:08,601
to porn.
1465
01:08:08,601 --> 01:08:12,536
He made a 1977 movie called
"The Secret Dreams of Mona Q",
1466
01:08:12,536 --> 01:08:13,848
which features the song,
1467
01:08:13,848 --> 01:08:16,195
"I'm Going To Fuck You
Till You Die."
1468
01:08:16,195 --> 01:08:17,265
[Laughter]
1469
01:08:17,265 --> 01:08:19,923
Lloyd Kaufman ran camera
on that movie.
1470
01:08:19,923 --> 01:08:22,822
And then he made a great
thriller called "Jakarta",
1471
01:08:22,822 --> 01:08:25,411
which is not nearly as famous
as "Mother's Day."
1472
01:08:25,411 --> 01:08:28,345
and then he made
"When Nature Calls" for Troma.
1473
01:08:28,345 --> 01:08:31,210
And then he said, "Screw this,
I'm making bread!"
1474
01:08:31,210 --> 01:08:35,490
So we had some stuff
flown in for the show.
1475
01:08:35,490 --> 01:08:38,942
We had a couple of his
24 varieties of bread,
1476
01:08:38,942 --> 01:08:41,047
plus his cinnamon roll,
1477
01:08:41,047 --> 01:08:45,845
his banana pecan cake,
a little apple rhubarb,
1478
01:08:45,845 --> 01:08:48,538
raspberry pie,
his French macaroons,
1479
01:08:48,538 --> 01:08:51,230
his éclairs and his tiramisu.
1480
01:08:51,230 --> 01:08:52,990
And we're going to eat
all this stuff
1481
01:08:52,990 --> 01:08:54,716
and do Drive-In totals.
1482
01:08:54,716 --> 01:08:57,133
And then we're going to have
to answer the question,
1483
01:08:57,133 --> 01:08:58,824
was civilization better served
1484
01:08:58,824 --> 01:09:02,931
by Charles Kaufman
making bread or making art?
1485
01:09:02,931 --> 01:09:06,832
Okay, back to the movie.
1486
01:09:06,832 --> 01:09:11,043
Oh, I forgot to ask you about
the Dobber flashback.
1487
01:09:11,043 --> 01:09:13,425
The guy who goes full frontal
in the baseball stadium
1488
01:09:13,425 --> 01:09:15,806
so the Rat Pack
can make fun of him.
1489
01:09:15,806 --> 01:09:18,223
Do we need that
flashback sequence?
1490
01:09:18,223 --> 01:09:20,259
-We did not at all,
and that's, in fact,
1491
01:09:20,259 --> 01:09:22,019
one of the weirdest
things in the movie,
1492
01:09:22,019 --> 01:09:24,850
because you're just like,
"Why is this in there?"
1493
01:09:24,850 --> 01:09:27,232
It's such deep character detail.
1494
01:09:27,232 --> 01:09:28,957
But that's what I love
about the movie,
1495
01:09:28,957 --> 01:09:32,029
is that it's one of these movies
that takes unnecessary
1496
01:09:32,029 --> 01:09:34,239
detour after unnecessary detour.
1497
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:36,793
It's sort of like the way,
me when I talk all the time,
1498
01:09:36,793 --> 01:09:38,588
so maybe that's why
I relate to it.
1499
01:09:38,588 --> 01:09:40,141
-I saw an article one time
where you said
1500
01:09:40,141 --> 01:09:41,798
your favorite horror film
1501
01:09:41,798 --> 01:09:44,525
is the same as the favorite
horror film of our director,
1502
01:09:44,525 --> 01:09:47,804
Austin, which has inspired
much frenzied debate
1503
01:09:47,804 --> 01:09:50,255
in the category of
why, Austin, why?
1504
01:09:50,255 --> 01:09:53,119
And that movie is "Pieces."
1505
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:54,293
-Hell yeah.
-I love "Pieces."
1506
01:09:54,293 --> 01:09:56,192
-Oh, "Pieces" is
a beautiful work of art.
1507
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:57,917
I have a 35 millimeter
print of it.
1508
01:09:57,917 --> 01:10:00,334
I love Juan Piquer Simón's
"Pieces."
1509
01:10:00,334 --> 01:10:01,921
It's one of my
favorite films of all time.
1510
01:10:01,921 --> 01:10:04,200
I actually had a very --
I was with Tarantino,
1511
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,684
and we watch "Pieces"
with a friend of his
1512
01:10:05,684 --> 01:10:07,548
who had kind of a brilliant
1513
01:10:07,548 --> 01:10:09,205
just another --
speaking of detours --
1514
01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:11,448
-Man, where are these
Hollywood "Pieces"
1515
01:10:11,448 --> 01:10:12,794
screening parties happening?
1516
01:10:12,794 --> 01:10:16,108
-Basically, the movie is
about this guy, Kendall Morgan,
1517
01:10:16,108 --> 01:10:18,386
the campus stud, and he's
having sex with those women,
1518
01:10:18,386 --> 01:10:19,870
and he just discards them.
1519
01:10:19,870 --> 01:10:21,838
I mean, just like he's done
with them right after.
1520
01:10:21,838 --> 01:10:23,011
And there's the girl
in bed going,
1521
01:10:23,011 --> 01:10:24,496
"Oh, Kendall, come back to me."
1522
01:10:24,496 --> 01:10:25,911
Meanwhile this person,
Edmund Purdom,
1523
01:10:25,911 --> 01:10:27,395
is chopping people up
kind of right
1524
01:10:27,395 --> 01:10:29,673
after he makes "Absurd"
with Joe D'Amato.
1525
01:10:29,673 --> 01:10:32,711
Another great movie probably
made the same week probably.
1526
01:10:32,711 --> 01:10:34,195
-Probably.
-And then at the end,
1527
01:10:34,195 --> 01:10:37,371
this body comes back to life
and castrates him.
1528
01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:41,375
And it's as if it's the residual
anger of all the women
1529
01:10:41,375 --> 01:10:44,205
that he has discarded
coming back
1530
01:10:44,205 --> 01:10:47,657
to seek vengeance
on the testicles.
1531
01:10:47,657 --> 01:10:50,176
It's kind of brilliant,
or it's just like
1532
01:10:50,176 --> 01:10:52,109
some masterpiece,
or it's just like another
1533
01:10:52,109 --> 01:10:53,490
piece of crap horror film.
1534
01:10:53,490 --> 01:10:56,355
-That is the best explanation
for the rationale
1535
01:10:56,355 --> 01:10:59,116
of the "Pieces" plot
that I have ever heard, Eli.
1536
01:10:59,116 --> 01:11:00,359
Thank you for that.
1537
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,293
You've done
Juan Piquer Simón proud.
1538
01:11:03,293 --> 01:11:05,364
We don't all have to agree
on where "Pieces" ranks
1539
01:11:05,364 --> 01:11:07,228
in the upper echelons of horror.
1540
01:11:07,228 --> 01:11:10,024
But thank you, Eli.
1541
01:11:15,063 --> 01:11:16,513
[Static crackles]
1542
01:11:16,513 --> 01:11:20,137
♪♪
1543
01:11:20,137 --> 01:11:22,243
-Come on, Ike!
1544
01:11:22,243 --> 01:11:23,934
-Alright.
1545
01:11:24,418 --> 01:11:27,006
Hey, Ma!
1546
01:11:29,630 --> 01:11:31,873
Ma, we got some!
1547
01:11:33,875 --> 01:11:37,672
[Gunfire on television]
1548
01:11:41,607 --> 01:11:45,508
[Whooping on television]
1549
01:11:59,384 --> 01:12:01,627
-We got the girls
at Fairview Lake.
1550
01:12:01,627 --> 01:12:04,906
-Yeah, and I got
the one that almost got away.
1551
01:12:04,906 --> 01:12:06,908
-You did not.
You didn't even get her --
1552
01:12:06,908 --> 01:12:08,910
-Ike and Addley!
1553
01:12:08,910 --> 01:12:11,016
-Didn't you boys
forget something?
1554
01:12:11,016 --> 01:12:13,363
[Gunfire on television]
1555
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:35,420
And?
1556
01:12:45,395 --> 01:12:49,434
I swear, sometimes you boys
act just like little savages.
1557
01:12:49,434 --> 01:12:51,090
[Laughs]
1558
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:52,368
-Jesus Christ!
1559
01:12:52,368 --> 01:12:53,921
What are you crazy out there?!
1560
01:12:53,921 --> 01:12:57,131
Let us the fuck out!
Let me out!
1561
01:12:57,131 --> 01:12:58,408
Who the fuck are you, anyway?
1562
01:12:58,408 --> 01:13:00,928
-Can we open them now, Ma?
Can we open them now?
1563
01:13:00,928 --> 01:13:02,688
Come on, slow poke!
1564
01:13:02,688 --> 01:13:05,139
-I got two of them, you got one,
for crying out loud.
1565
01:13:05,139 --> 01:13:07,383
-That's 'cause you're bigger.
Dumb!
1566
01:13:07,383 --> 01:13:10,144
-I'm not dumb.
-You're dumb. You like punk.
1567
01:13:10,144 --> 01:13:13,216
-Shut up. Mom don't like you
to call me dumb.
1568
01:13:13,216 --> 01:13:15,667
Disco is stupid.
1569
01:13:15,667 --> 01:13:18,083
-You stink.
1570
01:13:18,083 --> 01:13:20,154
[Gunfire on television]
1571
01:13:20,154 --> 01:13:22,432
-Come on, help me with these.
1572
01:13:22,432 --> 01:13:24,986
-You're weak.
1573
01:13:30,267 --> 01:13:31,683
-All right, Ike and Addley.
1574
01:13:31,683 --> 01:13:34,755
Now let's see
what you brought mother.
1575
01:13:34,755 --> 01:13:36,653
-Oh!
1576
01:13:36,653 --> 01:13:39,380
-Well, let's see her.
1577
01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:41,762
-Ah. Ah!
1578
01:13:45,006 --> 01:13:46,836
Oh.
1579
01:14:04,578 --> 01:14:06,338
-[Chuckles]
1580
01:14:09,099 --> 01:14:10,756
-[Whimpers]
-Get on here.
1581
01:14:12,827 --> 01:14:14,760
-[Groans]
1582
01:14:17,832 --> 01:14:19,351
-Open up.
1583
01:14:19,351 --> 01:14:21,836
[Grunts]
1584
01:14:22,527 --> 01:14:24,529
-[Muffled scream]
1585
01:14:28,912 --> 01:14:30,569
-[Gasps]
1586
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:35,022
-Ah!
1587
01:14:37,576 --> 01:14:39,992
-You're a real pretty girl.
1588
01:14:41,718 --> 01:14:44,445
-Don't touch me,
you sadistic motherfucker!
1589
01:14:44,445 --> 01:14:46,585
[Laughter]
1590
01:14:49,208 --> 01:14:52,522
-Don't you do that!
1591
01:14:52,522 --> 01:14:54,144
Addley! Addley!
1592
01:14:54,144 --> 01:14:55,594
-Get off of me!
1593
01:14:57,251 --> 01:14:58,873
God damn it!
1594
01:15:00,634 --> 01:15:04,948
Fuck you crazy bastards.
1595
01:15:04,948 --> 01:15:06,294
[Grunting]
1596
01:15:11,541 --> 01:15:14,130
-We got her now.
1597
01:15:16,339 --> 01:15:18,065
-[Muffled scream]
1598
01:15:19,929 --> 01:15:21,896
-Hey! Don't you do that to me,
you bitch!
1599
01:15:21,896 --> 01:15:23,553
-Ike!
1600
01:15:26,245 --> 01:15:29,214
-Ma, I want her first,
her first.
1601
01:15:29,214 --> 01:15:31,975
-Not as the first one, dear.
1602
01:15:34,599 --> 01:15:36,670
Her first.
1603
01:15:37,567 --> 01:15:39,017
-Aw, but, Ma, she kicked me --
1604
01:15:39,017 --> 01:15:41,709
-Ike! That's it.
1605
01:15:44,194 --> 01:15:46,680
-[Gasps]
1606
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,233
-Hold on.
1607
01:15:48,233 --> 01:15:50,442
[Grunting]
1608
01:15:50,442 --> 01:15:52,340
The ropes.
1609
01:15:52,789 --> 01:15:56,552
Come on, we'll put this on you.
1610
01:15:56,552 --> 01:15:57,414
-[Laughing]
1611
01:15:57,414 --> 01:15:59,175
-Come on.
1612
01:15:59,175 --> 01:16:01,004
-[Clears throat]
1613
01:16:01,004 --> 01:16:04,387
-[Gasping]
1614
01:16:07,252 --> 01:16:09,530
[Gunfire on television]
1615
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,120
-Get out of here!
1616
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,053
See you later.
1617
01:16:15,053 --> 01:16:17,434
[Door slams]
1618
01:16:17,434 --> 01:16:19,436
-Have a good day.
1619
01:16:27,928 --> 01:16:30,275
-[Speaking indistinctly]
1620
01:16:32,933 --> 01:16:34,106
Let's go.
1621
01:16:34,106 --> 01:16:37,454
-No!
-Come on!
1622
01:16:37,454 --> 01:16:39,249
You don't like that?
1623
01:16:39,249 --> 01:16:41,113
-Thank you kindly.
1624
01:16:41,113 --> 01:16:43,564
That's real nice.
1625
01:16:43,564 --> 01:16:44,772
-Addley, what do you want to do?
1626
01:16:44,772 --> 01:16:46,153
-I don't know.
What do you want to do?
1627
01:16:46,153 --> 01:16:47,706
-I don't know.
What do you want to do?
1628
01:16:47,706 --> 01:16:49,259
-The park bench!
The park bench!
1629
01:16:49,259 --> 01:16:51,089
Park bench. Okay, Ma?
The park bench?
1630
01:16:51,089 --> 01:16:52,780
-Okay.
1631
01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:54,230
You'll have to split it.
1632
01:16:54,230 --> 01:16:55,369
-Come on, Ike, come on.
1633
01:16:55,369 --> 01:16:59,580
-Right here.
Don't you move.
1634
01:16:59,580 --> 01:17:01,478
-[Gasps]
1635
01:17:03,791 --> 01:17:06,449
-I haven't done this
in a long time.
1636
01:17:10,833 --> 01:17:13,767
-Sit down.
1637
01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:15,492
Sit down!
1638
01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:18,323
-Alright, alright,
now it's a beautiful day.
1639
01:17:18,323 --> 01:17:20,808
You see? You see?!
1640
01:17:20,808 --> 01:17:23,017
You're all alone in the park,
1641
01:17:23,017 --> 01:17:25,537
sitting on a park bench,
and you're reading
1642
01:17:25,537 --> 01:17:27,228
something real good.
1643
01:17:27,228 --> 01:17:29,575
-Yeah, like a muscle magazine.
1644
01:17:29,575 --> 01:17:31,992
Now read this.
1645
01:17:31,992 --> 01:17:36,203
Now, I want you to be
just like this,
1646
01:17:36,203 --> 01:17:38,446
your leg there,
and your arm right here, okay?
1647
01:17:38,446 --> 01:17:40,414
Okay.
1648
01:17:40,414 --> 01:17:45,730
-Oh, that's -- that's
a very naughty girl, Fifi.
1649
01:17:45,730 --> 01:17:48,940
Oh, that is a very bad dog,
Fifi!
1650
01:17:48,940 --> 01:17:52,184
You don't go to the bathroom
on the poor man's leg.
1651
01:17:52,184 --> 01:17:54,117
Bad! Bad dog!
1652
01:17:54,117 --> 01:17:55,636
-Please let me go.
-Bad girl!
1653
01:17:55,636 --> 01:17:57,431
-Let my friends go.
-Bad girl!
1654
01:17:57,431 --> 01:17:59,813
-I don't know what you want.
1655
01:17:59,813 --> 01:18:01,953
-Sit down!
1656
01:18:05,542 --> 01:18:07,683
Bad dog! Bad!
1657
01:18:17,727 --> 01:18:19,384
-[Screams]
1658
01:18:24,285 --> 01:18:27,047
-[Whimpers]
-Ma said it was gonna be fun.
1659
01:18:27,047 --> 01:18:29,705
-[Whimpering]
1660
01:18:29,705 --> 01:18:31,051
-Aren't you?
1661
01:18:31,051 --> 01:18:32,569
Get this in there.
Come on now.
1662
01:18:32,569 --> 01:18:33,812
[Whistle blows]
1663
01:18:33,812 --> 01:18:35,918
-Ike, I saw one of her
hands free over there.
1664
01:18:35,918 --> 01:18:38,196
-That was Addley's fault!
That was Addley's fault.
1665
01:18:38,196 --> 01:18:39,611
-That was your fault!
-It was your fault!
1666
01:18:39,611 --> 01:18:41,199
You know what I was
in charge of?
1667
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:46,445
-I don't care
whose fault it was.
1668
01:18:46,445 --> 01:18:48,827
Guys!
1669
01:18:48,827 --> 01:18:51,105
I want you to be the best.
1670
01:18:51,105 --> 01:18:55,765
You want your mother
to be proud of you, don't you?
1671
01:18:55,765 --> 01:18:58,837
Okay, that was good cooperation.
1672
01:18:58,837 --> 01:18:59,804
Next. [Claps]
1673
01:18:59,804 --> 01:19:00,874
-Let's do the Kojak!
1674
01:19:00,874 --> 01:19:02,668
-No, no, the Sniper.
We'll do the --
1675
01:19:02,668 --> 01:19:06,569
-I'll decide!
Sit on the side.
1676
01:19:06,569 --> 01:19:08,882
Um...
1677
01:19:08,882 --> 01:19:10,849
The Shirley Temple.
1678
01:19:10,849 --> 01:19:12,748
-Oh, Ma,
I hate the Shirley Temple.
1679
01:19:12,748 --> 01:19:14,991
-Now, stop it, stop it,
both of you.
1680
01:19:14,991 --> 01:19:18,719
I'm getting me such a migraine
here.
1681
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:23,931
Ike, why don't you get
the Kodak?
1682
01:19:23,931 --> 01:19:25,864
-I'll get the Kodak.
-Yeah!
1683
01:19:25,864 --> 01:19:27,832
-I'll get the Kodak, yeah.
-Good.
1684
01:19:27,832 --> 01:19:29,730
Good boy.
1685
01:19:29,730 --> 01:19:37,634
♪♪
1686
01:19:37,634 --> 01:19:39,705
-Okay, lady.
1687
01:19:39,705 --> 01:19:44,262
Now walk like a little girl.
1688
01:19:44,262 --> 01:19:46,229
[Chuckles]
1689
01:19:47,299 --> 01:19:49,577
Like a little girl!
1690
01:19:49,577 --> 01:19:52,028
[Laughs fiendishly]
1691
01:19:52,028 --> 01:19:57,033
♪♪
1692
01:19:57,033 --> 01:19:59,484
-[Screams and groans]
1693
01:19:59,484 --> 01:20:01,348
[Crying]
1694
01:20:01,348 --> 01:20:02,970
-[Grunting]
1695
01:20:02,970 --> 01:20:04,558
-Aah!
1696
01:20:04,558 --> 01:20:08,079
♪♪
1697
01:20:08,079 --> 01:20:11,116
[Continues crying]
1698
01:20:11,116 --> 01:20:17,329
♪♪
1699
01:20:17,329 --> 01:20:20,125
[Screams]
1700
01:20:20,125 --> 01:20:22,956
-Bitch! Bitch! Bitch! Bitch!
1701
01:20:22,956 --> 01:20:26,200
Bitch! Bitch!
1702
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,512
[Spits]
1703
01:20:27,512 --> 01:20:29,825
-Uh! Uh!
1704
01:20:29,825 --> 01:20:35,865
♪♪
1705
01:20:35,865 --> 01:20:41,871
♪♪
1706
01:20:41,871 --> 01:20:45,047
[Crying]
1707
01:20:45,047 --> 01:20:54,608
♪♪
1708
01:20:54,608 --> 01:21:04,307
♪♪
1709
01:21:04,307 --> 01:21:13,938
♪♪
1710
01:21:13,938 --> 01:21:16,492
-Can she stay in our room
tonight, Ma? Huh?
1711
01:21:16,492 --> 01:21:17,803
-Yeah, can she, Ma?
1712
01:21:17,803 --> 01:21:19,253
-Well, okay.
1713
01:21:19,253 --> 01:21:21,428
But I don't want you two
complaining tomorrow
1714
01:21:21,428 --> 01:21:24,120
about how tired you are.
1715
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:30,092
♪♪
1716
01:21:30,092 --> 01:21:33,267
Ike, you better bolt that door
good tonight.
1717
01:21:33,267 --> 01:21:36,063
-Ma, there is nobody
out there --
1718
01:21:36,063 --> 01:21:38,548
-Now, you just do as I say.
1719
01:21:38,548 --> 01:21:42,311
Queenie's out there.
I just know it.
1720
01:21:42,311 --> 01:21:49,387
♪♪
1721
01:21:49,387 --> 01:21:50,629
[Static crackling]
1722
01:21:50,629 --> 01:21:58,223
♪♪
1723
01:21:58,223 --> 01:22:01,951
-Okay, it's kind of hard to
enjoy a Charles Kaufman
1724
01:22:01,951 --> 01:22:04,367
chocolate croissant
while watching a Charles Kaufman
1725
01:22:04,367 --> 01:22:07,784
inbred-hillbilly-pedophilia-
roleplay rape scene
1726
01:22:07,784 --> 01:22:09,579
carried out for the benefit
of a cackling,
1727
01:22:09,579 --> 01:22:13,894
sadistic she-demon
played by Beatrice Pons.
1728
01:22:13,894 --> 01:22:16,034
Beatrice used a fake name
in the credits
1729
01:22:16,034 --> 01:22:19,210
because she was a fairly
well-known comedienne.
1730
01:22:19,210 --> 01:22:22,385
She had been in two hit
TV series in the '50s,
1731
01:22:22,385 --> 01:22:25,388
"The Phil Silvers Show"
and "Car 54, Where Are You?"
1732
01:22:25,388 --> 01:22:27,839
And in both shows,
she was the wife
1733
01:22:27,839 --> 01:22:29,841
of comedian Joe E. Ross,
1734
01:22:29,841 --> 01:22:32,154
but her career went back
to the 1930s.
1735
01:22:32,154 --> 01:22:34,121
She was one of the first women
to do standup.
1736
01:22:34,121 --> 01:22:35,536
She had a nightclub act.
1737
01:22:35,536 --> 01:22:37,400
She would do impressions
of famous singers
1738
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,368
and actors and comedians.
1739
01:22:39,368 --> 01:22:42,164
And she really,
really wanted this role,
1740
01:22:42,164 --> 01:22:44,545
so she faked her name
to avoid getting caught
1741
01:22:44,545 --> 01:22:48,894
by the Screen Actors Guild
and losing her pension.
1742
01:22:48,894 --> 01:22:50,655
Eli...
1743
01:22:50,655 --> 01:22:52,622
rape comedy.
1744
01:22:52,622 --> 01:22:53,830
-Okay.
1745
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:55,729
-What's your position
on this scene?
1746
01:22:55,729 --> 01:22:59,043
-Well, it is
an indefensible scene.
1747
01:22:59,043 --> 01:23:02,529
There's nothing you can say
about this being necessary.
1748
01:23:02,529 --> 01:23:04,186
It's -- it's one of the things
in the movie
1749
01:23:04,186 --> 01:23:06,533
that's like --
it's -- it's --
1750
01:23:06,533 --> 01:23:08,224
of all the stuff
when you're watching as a kid,
1751
01:23:08,224 --> 01:23:09,708
you want the decapitation.
1752
01:23:09,708 --> 01:23:12,435
And there's some other things
that come up later in the movie.
1753
01:23:12,435 --> 01:23:16,646
But the rape scene, over time,
is reallydisturbing.
1754
01:23:16,646 --> 01:23:18,200
It's like -- it's like
one of those things
1755
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,753
in "Last House on the Left.
1756
01:23:19,753 --> 01:23:20,892
I asked Charles Kaufman,
1757
01:23:20,892 --> 01:23:22,342
"What was it like
shooting that scene?"
1758
01:23:22,342 --> 01:23:24,516
'Cause that scene is just --
it's so nuts,
1759
01:23:24,516 --> 01:23:26,829
it kind of crosses a line
with the audience.
1760
01:23:26,829 --> 01:23:29,383
It basically dares you
to keep watching the movie
1761
01:23:29,383 --> 01:23:32,421
and kind of says, "This is not
gonna be pleasant.
1762
01:23:32,421 --> 01:23:34,043
Like, whatever you thought
this movie was,
1763
01:23:34,043 --> 01:23:36,390
this is gonna be
wayworse than you thought."
1764
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:40,187
-Well, it's really a point
of no return for the audience.
1765
01:23:40,187 --> 01:23:43,846
-Um, and he said that
Beatrice Pons was really upset.
1766
01:23:43,846 --> 01:23:45,675
Like, she went for it
and she did it,
1767
01:23:45,675 --> 01:23:47,160
but she was a theater actress
1768
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,714
and she just didn't want, you
know, anything to do with it.
1769
01:23:49,714 --> 01:23:51,543
That was the scene,
and I think they may have done
1770
01:23:51,543 --> 01:23:53,442
some other wider shots
of the double,
1771
01:23:53,442 --> 01:23:56,203
but that was the scene
that she did not approve of.
1772
01:23:56,203 --> 01:23:58,378
-Yeah, well,
as a student of horror,
1773
01:23:58,378 --> 01:24:01,277
what do you think about
the whole rape-revenge genre?
1774
01:24:01,277 --> 01:24:03,935
You know, I pointed out earlier
that they were apparently
1775
01:24:03,935 --> 01:24:05,730
aware of "I Spit on Your Grave."
1776
01:24:05,730 --> 01:24:07,111
They did that shot.
1777
01:24:07,111 --> 01:24:09,147
-You know, rape is difficult
because it crosses a line
1778
01:24:09,147 --> 01:24:10,838
with an audience
'cause it's so real.
1779
01:24:10,838 --> 01:24:12,357
And if you don't
handle it right,
1780
01:24:12,357 --> 01:24:15,981
the audience feels like you're
using it as entertainment.
1781
01:24:15,981 --> 01:24:18,018
And movies like
"Last House on the Left" --
1782
01:24:18,018 --> 01:24:19,813
they're not pleasant
experiences.
1783
01:24:19,813 --> 01:24:22,609
And you can tell yourself
it's only a movie,
1784
01:24:22,609 --> 01:24:24,231
but it's sort of --
1785
01:24:24,231 --> 01:24:26,095
it's like you're kicking
the audience in the balls.
1786
01:24:26,095 --> 01:24:27,717
It sort of crosses a line.
1787
01:24:27,717 --> 01:24:30,513
It's one of those things
where you're telling a story.
1788
01:24:30,513 --> 01:24:32,170
You can do it.
1789
01:24:32,170 --> 01:24:33,689
If you're gonna do it,
1790
01:24:33,689 --> 01:24:35,449
you better have a strong reason
for putting it in your movie,
1791
01:24:35,449 --> 01:24:38,073
and you better be intelligent
about how you handle it,
1792
01:24:38,073 --> 01:24:39,798
because even in a movie,
1793
01:24:39,798 --> 01:24:42,387
it's not something
that anyone can watch.
1794
01:24:42,387 --> 01:24:44,527
Like, look, I think anyone
can do anything in a movie,
1795
01:24:44,527 --> 01:24:45,666
but if you're gonna do it,
1796
01:24:45,666 --> 01:24:47,530
you better be smart about it,
really.
1797
01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:49,705
-Well, you can take things
to extremes,
1798
01:24:49,705 --> 01:24:54,606
but you also have a lot
of comic moments in your films.
1799
01:24:54,606 --> 01:24:56,470
Do people say
that you cross the line?
1800
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:58,507
I mean, you get to asked
about that a lot?
1801
01:24:58,507 --> 01:25:00,992
You know,
"That's not funny, Eli."
1802
01:25:00,992 --> 01:25:03,132
-Yeah, well, every time
I write a script,
1803
01:25:03,132 --> 01:25:04,754
people go, "You can't do that."
1804
01:25:04,754 --> 01:25:06,031
And that's when I keep going.
1805
01:25:06,031 --> 01:25:07,240
Or when I'm shooting a scene,
1806
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:08,620
whether it's Heather Matarazzo
upside down,
1807
01:25:08,620 --> 01:25:10,243
like, sometimes you don't know.
1808
01:25:10,243 --> 01:25:11,899
Like, the gun scene
in "Cabin Fever"
1809
01:25:11,899 --> 01:25:12,866
and the N-word joke --
people were like,
1810
01:25:12,866 --> 01:25:14,143
"You can't do this."
1811
01:25:14,143 --> 01:25:15,489
I was like,
"No, this has to be in there.
1812
01:25:15,489 --> 01:25:17,526
This is what happened to me.
This is what it's like.
1813
01:25:17,526 --> 01:25:19,562
This is a tension.
This is real.
1814
01:25:19,562 --> 01:25:21,150
And this is gonna
pay off later."
1815
01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:23,359
So that worked,
and then other times
1816
01:25:23,359 --> 01:25:24,774
you do something
and audiences are like,
1817
01:25:24,774 --> 01:25:26,224
"This is too much"
where like,
1818
01:25:26,224 --> 01:25:27,777
"We can't forgive you
for what you did
1819
01:25:27,777 --> 01:25:29,883
to Heather Matarazzo,"
even though you'll see her
1820
01:25:29,883 --> 01:25:31,540
doing press before,
during, after
1821
01:25:31,540 --> 01:25:32,886
showing you the makeup effects.
1822
01:25:32,886 --> 01:25:34,508
-Right.
-The tears are too real.
1823
01:25:34,508 --> 01:25:35,889
The girl's screaming
and crying for her mom.
1824
01:25:35,889 --> 01:25:37,339
It's too upsetting.
1825
01:25:37,339 --> 01:25:40,307
So there's certain stuff
that you want to do
1826
01:25:40,307 --> 01:25:42,033
to push an audience to extremes.
1827
01:25:42,033 --> 01:25:44,518
But other things
just aren't fun.
1828
01:25:44,518 --> 01:25:46,071
And you just got to show people,
1829
01:25:46,071 --> 01:25:47,280
otherwise, they're not --
like, I didn't know
1830
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:48,660
I was gonna get killed
for "Hostel II."
1831
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:50,524
I thought it was
the same as "Hostel I,"
1832
01:25:50,524 --> 01:25:52,077
but it crossed the line
for people.
1833
01:25:52,077 --> 01:25:54,183
And then in "Green Inferno,"
people went with it.
1834
01:25:54,183 --> 01:25:55,357
-Well, all right.
1835
01:25:55,357 --> 01:25:57,566
We're gonna go back
to the movie and --
1836
01:25:57,566 --> 01:25:59,430
oh, I know you were
tweeting along with us
1837
01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:01,294
the night we showed
"Cannibal Holocaust."
1838
01:26:01,294 --> 01:26:02,709
-Oh, not only was I tweeting,
1839
01:26:02,709 --> 01:26:05,298
I was sending videos
to Ruggero Deodato going,
1840
01:26:05,298 --> 01:26:07,576
"I'm watching your movie
on cable in America.
1841
01:26:07,576 --> 01:26:09,164
This has never happened before."
1842
01:26:09,164 --> 01:26:10,510
And, of course,
Ruggero was like,
1843
01:26:10,510 --> 01:26:13,789
"Why? Why am not on the show?
Why I am not there?"
1844
01:26:13,789 --> 01:26:16,619
-And you made a virtual love
letter to "Cannibal Holocaust"
1845
01:26:16,619 --> 01:26:18,311
called "The Green Inferno,"
1846
01:26:18,311 --> 01:26:22,004
which just for having the iron
balls to make that movie --
1847
01:26:22,004 --> 01:26:23,212
we're gonna talk about that
later.
1848
01:26:23,212 --> 01:26:25,525
But we love you for that, Eli.
-Thank you.
1849
01:26:25,525 --> 01:26:27,458
-I want to talk about that
later, but first,
1850
01:26:27,458 --> 01:26:29,391
have a croissant.
1851
01:26:29,391 --> 01:26:32,394
[Laughs]
You can't. Okay. Roll film.
1852
01:26:32,394 --> 01:26:34,913
You know, there's always
two ways to do spam in a cabin.
1853
01:26:34,913 --> 01:26:36,363
You know, the cast
goes into the woods
1854
01:26:36,363 --> 01:26:38,158
and they stay in the cabin
1855
01:26:38,158 --> 01:26:41,644
and it becomes a siege movie
like "Evil Dead,"
1856
01:26:41,644 --> 01:26:44,199
or the cast is just in the woods
1857
01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:45,717
and they get dragged
to the cabin
1858
01:26:45,717 --> 01:26:47,788
that belongs to
the deranged family,
1859
01:26:47,788 --> 01:26:49,721
like in
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
1860
01:26:49,721 --> 01:26:54,450
Of the two, I think I pre--
well, you go first, Eli.
1861
01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:56,763
You've studied this more.
Which do you prefer?
1862
01:26:56,763 --> 01:26:58,040
-Oh, dragged to the house.
1863
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,421
I -- for sure.
I mean, look,
1864
01:26:59,421 --> 01:27:02,113
I love when you go to the house
and bad things happen,
1865
01:27:02,113 --> 01:27:04,115
whether it's "Evil Dead,"
"Cabin in the Woods,"
1866
01:27:04,115 --> 01:27:05,530
any of those kinds of movies.
1867
01:27:05,530 --> 01:27:07,774
But for me, it's
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
1868
01:27:07,774 --> 01:27:08,844
Like, you're going
somewhere else.
1869
01:27:08,844 --> 01:27:10,363
You take a detour, you stop.
1870
01:27:10,363 --> 01:27:12,227
And that becomes, like,
the fatal flaw.
1871
01:27:12,227 --> 01:27:13,504
That thing --
that becomes a thing
1872
01:27:13,504 --> 01:27:14,953
that's the worst decision
of your life.
1873
01:27:14,953 --> 01:27:17,301
-Yeah, I like the cabin
being mysterious,
1874
01:27:17,301 --> 01:27:20,096
the forbidden place where
we don't know what's in there.
1875
01:27:20,096 --> 01:27:22,271
You have a cabin
in most of your movies.
1876
01:27:22,271 --> 01:27:25,723
It may not be an actual cabin,
but it's that forbidden place.
1877
01:27:25,723 --> 01:27:27,621
Right?
1878
01:27:27,621 --> 01:27:29,347
-We're all making
the same movie.
1879
01:27:29,347 --> 01:27:31,176
Every movie I do, I think
will be completely different.
1880
01:27:31,176 --> 01:27:34,249
But first it was a cabin,
then it was a hostel.
1881
01:27:34,249 --> 01:27:35,940
My last movie was --
then it was a hostel again.
1882
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:37,597
My last movie was about a house.
1883
01:27:37,597 --> 01:27:40,013
It's like, you just --
it's the same obsession.
1884
01:27:40,013 --> 01:27:42,153
"Green Inferno" it's the cage,
it's the hut.
1885
01:27:42,153 --> 01:27:44,259
-That's true.
All forbidden places.
1886
01:27:44,259 --> 01:27:47,434
-I love the sense of adventure
of I'm going -- you know,
1887
01:27:47,434 --> 01:27:50,023
I'm leaving my comfort zone,
but as soon as you're there,
1888
01:27:50,023 --> 01:27:52,197
you wish you had
all the comforts of home.
1889
01:27:52,197 --> 01:27:54,407
-Do you camp in real life?
1890
01:27:54,407 --> 01:27:55,580
-I did when I was a kid.
1891
01:27:55,580 --> 01:27:56,857
I was, like,
really into camping.
1892
01:27:56,857 --> 01:27:58,273
You know, I lived in Newton.
1893
01:27:58,273 --> 01:27:59,895
It was the safest city
in America.
1894
01:27:59,895 --> 01:28:01,483
So I'd sit there,
and everyone's like,
1895
01:28:01,483 --> 01:28:02,898
"Oh, let's ride our bikes."
1896
01:28:02,898 --> 01:28:04,762
It was like -- it was like
growing up in an Amblin movie.
1897
01:28:04,762 --> 01:28:06,073
And I was always thinking, like,
1898
01:28:06,073 --> 01:28:08,248
"Well, what happens
when Leatherface shows up?"
1899
01:28:08,248 --> 01:28:10,802
-So you lived in the safest
place in the world,
1900
01:28:10,802 --> 01:28:13,736
but you went on to destroy
North Carolina tourism,
1901
01:28:13,736 --> 01:28:16,256
Eastern Europe tourism,
Vegas tourism,
1902
01:28:16,256 --> 01:28:17,947
anything in the Amazon,
1903
01:28:17,947 --> 01:28:20,225
and probably
all of Latin America.
1904
01:28:20,225 --> 01:28:23,919
You should be proud
of yourself, Eli.
1905
01:28:23,919 --> 01:28:26,439
-Thank you. It's weird.
It's -- it's --
1906
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:27,854
yeah, there's not many places
left.
1907
01:28:27,854 --> 01:28:29,269
[Laughter]
1908
01:28:33,722 --> 01:28:35,724
[Static crackling]
1909
01:28:35,724 --> 01:28:45,250
♪♪
1910
01:28:45,250 --> 01:28:47,494
-[Crying]
1911
01:28:47,494 --> 01:28:51,222
♪♪
1912
01:28:51,222 --> 01:28:53,431
-Wake up!
It's me, Big Bird,
1913
01:28:53,431 --> 01:28:54,708
and it's time to get up.
1914
01:28:54,708 --> 01:28:56,641
Open your little eyes now.
1915
01:28:56,641 --> 01:28:58,574
Don't roll over
and go back to sleep.
1916
01:28:58,574 --> 01:29:00,818
Come on, now.
One foot out of bed.
1917
01:29:00,818 --> 01:29:02,095
-[Grunts]
-Now the other one.
1918
01:29:02,095 --> 01:29:03,786
Okay, have a nice day.
1919
01:29:03,786 --> 01:29:05,788
And don't forget to...
1920
01:29:05,788 --> 01:29:08,101
-Rise and shine, boys!
1921
01:29:08,101 --> 01:29:11,932
Rise and shine!
1922
01:29:11,932 --> 01:29:14,107
-Wake up!
It's me, Big Bird,
1923
01:29:14,107 --> 01:29:15,591
and it's time to get up.
1924
01:29:15,591 --> 01:29:17,352
Open your little eyes now.
1925
01:29:17,352 --> 01:29:19,319
Don't roll over
and go back to sleep.
1926
01:29:19,319 --> 01:29:25,532
♪♪
1927
01:29:25,532 --> 01:29:31,711
♪♪
1928
01:29:31,711 --> 01:29:33,920
-Mm! Mm.
1929
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:42,480
♪♪
1930
01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:44,517
-[Urinating]
1931
01:29:44,517 --> 01:29:47,623
[Television playing indistinctly
in background]
1932
01:29:47,623 --> 01:29:51,938
♪♪
1933
01:29:51,938 --> 01:29:53,836
-[Laughs]
1934
01:29:53,836 --> 01:29:58,979
[Television continues playing
indistinctly]
1935
01:29:58,979 --> 01:30:00,533
[Indistinct] sucks.
1936
01:30:00,533 --> 01:30:02,949
-Disco's stupid.
1937
01:30:02,949 --> 01:30:06,573
-[Gargling loudly]
1938
01:30:06,573 --> 01:30:08,610
[Indistinct] sucks!
Pah!
1939
01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:11,060
-Disco's stupid.
1940
01:30:13,856 --> 01:30:15,996
-[Speaks indistinctly,
gargles]
1941
01:30:15,996 --> 01:30:17,895
[Laughs]
1942
01:30:17,895 --> 01:30:24,453
♪♪
1943
01:30:24,453 --> 01:30:30,977
♪♪
1944
01:30:30,977 --> 01:30:32,357
[Television continues playing
indistinctly]
1945
01:30:32,357 --> 01:30:35,775
Guys, look!
Look what got away last night.
1946
01:30:37,397 --> 01:30:39,917
-Baby raccoon's leg.
1947
01:30:39,917 --> 01:30:42,264
-Addley, you're gonna get blood
all over the floor.
1948
01:30:42,264 --> 01:30:44,749
Now, give me that.
1949
01:30:44,749 --> 01:30:47,442
I'm guessing it ate its way
out of the trap.
1950
01:30:47,442 --> 01:30:51,169
[Laughs] Must have spent all
night chewing its own leg off.
1951
01:30:51,169 --> 01:30:52,792
-Oh, poor fella.
1952
01:30:52,792 --> 01:30:56,071
[Both laugh]
1953
01:30:56,071 --> 01:31:04,631
♪♪
1954
01:31:04,631 --> 01:31:13,053
♪♪
1955
01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:21,579
♪♪
1956
01:31:21,579 --> 01:31:23,512
-...yelling, "Take it off,
take it off."
1957
01:31:23,512 --> 01:31:24,962
-Finish your cheese spread,
all right?
1958
01:31:24,962 --> 01:31:26,377
It's good for the liver.
1959
01:31:26,377 --> 01:31:30,450
[Television continues playing
indistinctly]
1960
01:31:30,450 --> 01:31:32,487
What happened to you girlfriend?
1961
01:31:32,487 --> 01:31:36,974
-Uh, she ain't feeling so good
this morning, Ma, you know?
1962
01:31:36,974 --> 01:31:39,010
[Laughs] I don't think
she'll be coming down.
1963
01:31:39,010 --> 01:31:40,909
-Ah-ah.
1964
01:31:40,909 --> 01:31:42,669
[Laughter]
1965
01:31:42,669 --> 01:31:45,810
[Cackles]
1966
01:31:45,810 --> 01:31:52,161
♪♪
1967
01:31:52,161 --> 01:31:54,750
-[Grunting]
1968
01:31:54,750 --> 01:32:00,653
♪♪
1969
01:32:00,653 --> 01:32:06,521
♪♪
1970
01:32:06,521 --> 01:32:09,075
-We gonna feed
the other two now?
1971
01:32:09,075 --> 01:32:13,010
-Okay, but hurry down.
We got to do our exercises.
1972
01:32:13,010 --> 01:32:15,046
[Clattering]
1973
01:32:17,462 --> 01:32:20,362
My boys.
1974
01:32:20,362 --> 01:32:26,230
♪♪
1975
01:32:26,230 --> 01:32:30,268
-Breakfast, breakfast,
breakfast, breakfast!
1976
01:32:30,268 --> 01:32:33,548
-Hey, looks like my
little babe's been sleepwalking.
1977
01:32:36,033 --> 01:32:38,898
-[Screaming]
1978
01:32:42,867 --> 01:32:45,076
-You thinking
of going somewhere?
1979
01:32:45,076 --> 01:32:48,252
Why, you ain't even ate yet.
[Spits]
1980
01:32:48,252 --> 01:32:49,840
-You bastard.
-What do we got over here?
1981
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,842
-Where's Jackie?
1982
01:32:51,842 --> 01:32:54,569
-Oh, now, she wants to know
where she is.
1983
01:32:54,569 --> 01:32:55,811
-[Spits]
1984
01:32:55,811 --> 01:32:59,366
-You backwards,
perverted piece of shit.
1985
01:33:01,403 --> 01:33:03,474
Aah!
1986
01:33:03,474 --> 01:33:05,372
-Addley! I...
1987
01:33:05,372 --> 01:33:07,236
-Don't you ever say "backwards"
again.
1988
01:33:07,236 --> 01:33:09,480
We city-fied.
You look around!
1989
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:11,724
-Come on, let's go
do the exercises.
1990
01:33:11,724 --> 01:33:13,691
Come on, let's go, Ike.
1991
01:33:13,691 --> 01:33:15,106
Ike, come on!
1992
01:33:15,106 --> 01:33:17,384
Ike, come on!
1993
01:33:17,384 --> 01:33:18,662
Come on, Ike.
1994
01:33:18,662 --> 01:33:20,111
-Girls are not tied.
They're gonna get away.
1995
01:33:20,111 --> 01:33:22,251
We gotta tie them up.
-They're not going no place.
1996
01:33:22,251 --> 01:33:24,184
-[Gasps]
-Are you okay?
1997
01:33:24,184 --> 01:33:27,118
-Now, come on! Exercises.
Ma wants us, now!
1998
01:33:27,118 --> 01:33:29,431
-I think so.
1999
01:33:29,431 --> 01:33:34,194
♪♪
2000
01:33:34,194 --> 01:33:37,715
-Okay, boys,
now let's get to work!
2001
01:33:37,715 --> 01:33:38,854
[Blows whistle]
2002
01:33:38,854 --> 01:33:40,545
-Aahhh!
2003
01:33:40,545 --> 01:33:42,755
[Grunting]
2004
01:33:42,755 --> 01:33:52,696
♪♪
2005
01:33:52,696 --> 01:34:02,706
♪♪
2006
01:34:02,706 --> 01:34:12,647
♪♪
2007
01:34:12,647 --> 01:34:22,622
♪♪
2008
01:34:22,622 --> 01:34:32,528
♪♪
2009
01:34:32,528 --> 01:34:34,599
Aaah!
2010
01:34:35,842 --> 01:34:38,120
-[Grunting]
2011
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,364
♪♪
2012
01:34:40,364 --> 01:34:43,298
-Now take care of the big one,
Ike!
2013
01:34:43,298 --> 01:34:46,025
-[Grunts and laughs]
2014
01:34:46,025 --> 01:34:55,551
♪♪
2015
01:34:55,551 --> 01:34:58,589
-A lot more thrust, son!
2016
01:34:58,589 --> 01:35:08,323
♪♪
2017
01:35:08,323 --> 01:35:18,057
♪♪
2018
01:35:18,057 --> 01:35:19,817
-[Grunts]
2019
01:35:22,578 --> 01:35:25,789
-Okay, boys,
now take a break.
2020
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,001
-Abbey, come over here now.
2021
01:35:42,012 --> 01:35:43,841
-[Snoring]
2022
01:35:43,841 --> 01:35:49,053
[Television playing indistinctly
in background]
2023
01:35:49,053 --> 01:35:52,919
[Continues snoring]
2024
01:35:52,919 --> 01:35:55,611
[Television continues playing
indistinctly]
2025
01:36:09,039 --> 01:36:11,835
-[Laughs]
2026
01:36:11,835 --> 01:36:14,251
Ah!
2027
01:36:14,251 --> 01:36:16,771
-[Laughs]
2028
01:36:16,771 --> 01:36:19,118
[Television continues playing
indistinctly]
2029
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:31,924
♪♪
2030
01:36:31,924 --> 01:36:33,615
-Yeah!
-Ah!
2031
01:36:33,615 --> 01:36:36,583
Oh! Oh! Oof!
2032
01:36:36,583 --> 01:36:38,620
[Both grunting and laughing]
2033
01:36:38,620 --> 01:36:47,215
♪♪
2034
01:36:47,215 --> 01:36:55,775
♪♪
2035
01:36:55,775 --> 01:37:04,370
♪♪
2036
01:37:04,370 --> 01:37:12,930
♪♪
2037
01:37:12,930 --> 01:37:21,525
♪♪
2038
01:37:30,914 --> 01:37:36,264
♪♪
2039
01:37:36,264 --> 01:37:41,614
♪♪
2040
01:37:41,614 --> 01:37:45,100
-I'm gonna get you, Addley!
I'm gonna get you.
2041
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:55,076
♪♪
2042
01:37:55,076 --> 01:38:05,155
♪♪
2043
01:38:05,155 --> 01:38:15,096
♪♪
2044
01:38:15,096 --> 01:38:25,106
♪♪
2045
01:38:25,106 --> 01:38:35,081
♪♪
2046
01:38:35,081 --> 01:38:45,091
♪♪
2047
01:38:45,091 --> 01:38:55,032
♪♪
2048
01:38:55,032 --> 01:38:57,345
-Aaah! [Laughs]
2049
01:38:57,345 --> 01:38:59,450
[Both grunting]
2050
01:38:59,450 --> 01:39:09,219
♪♪
2051
01:39:09,219 --> 01:39:18,883
♪♪
2052
01:39:18,883 --> 01:39:20,437
-Well!
2053
01:39:20,437 --> 01:39:23,474
Look what we've got here.
2054
01:39:23,474 --> 01:39:27,582
You sure are frisky, aren't
you?
2055
01:39:27,582 --> 01:39:29,998
I'm gonna get you.
2056
01:39:29,998 --> 01:39:31,931
Some Burger Bits.
2057
01:39:31,931 --> 01:39:33,553
I know you love Burger Bits,
2058
01:39:33,553 --> 01:39:35,452
and I know they're good
for you, too.
2059
01:39:35,452 --> 01:39:38,800
They've got all the vitamins
and minerals a young pup needs
2060
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,596
to grow into a healthy dog.
2061
01:39:41,596 --> 01:39:43,218
And you know they're good
for you, too.
2062
01:39:43,218 --> 01:39:46,704
Otherwise, the Farmland people
wouldn't put their names on it.
2063
01:39:46,704 --> 01:39:48,465
So don't forget,
it's Burger Bits --
2064
01:39:48,465 --> 01:39:50,812
B-u-r-g-e-r B-i-t-s --
2065
01:39:50,812 --> 01:39:52,848
for a healthy young dog.
2066
01:39:52,848 --> 01:39:59,786
♪♪
2067
01:39:59,786 --> 01:40:01,650
-Abbey, come on.
We gotta get Jackie.
2068
01:40:01,650 --> 01:40:03,618
Abbey!
2069
01:40:03,618 --> 01:40:11,902
♪♪
2070
01:40:11,902 --> 01:40:15,423
Abbey, come on.
We gotta get Jackie.
2071
01:40:15,423 --> 01:40:24,190
♪♪
2072
01:40:24,190 --> 01:40:32,957
♪♪
2073
01:40:32,957 --> 01:40:41,725
♪♪
2074
01:40:41,725 --> 01:40:50,561
♪♪
2075
01:40:50,561 --> 01:40:52,184
[Whispering]
Jackie?
2076
01:40:52,184 --> 01:40:57,844
♪♪
2077
01:40:57,844 --> 01:41:03,643
♪♪
2078
01:41:03,643 --> 01:41:05,887
Jackie, where are you?
2079
01:41:05,887 --> 01:41:15,414
♪♪
2080
01:41:15,414 --> 01:41:24,906
♪♪
2081
01:41:24,906 --> 01:41:34,398
♪♪
2082
01:41:34,398 --> 01:41:37,608
-[Belches]
2083
01:41:37,608 --> 01:41:40,680
-What'd you do with
my disco magazine?
2084
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,925
[Brothers speaking indistinctly]
2085
01:41:43,925 --> 01:41:53,659
♪♪
2086
01:41:53,659 --> 01:42:03,427
♪♪
2087
01:42:03,427 --> 01:42:13,161
♪♪
2088
01:42:19,581 --> 01:42:21,997
♪♪
2089
01:42:21,997 --> 01:42:23,758
It's Jackie.
2090
01:42:23,758 --> 01:42:26,588
Oh, my God.
2091
01:42:26,588 --> 01:42:28,521
She's still alive.
2092
01:42:28,521 --> 01:42:31,731
Abbey, come and help me
get her out of here.
2093
01:42:31,731 --> 01:42:35,045
Abbey.
Abbey, come and help me.
2094
01:42:35,045 --> 01:42:37,599
We gotta get out of here.
2095
01:42:39,463 --> 01:42:42,777
Oh. Oh.
2096
01:42:42,777 --> 01:42:44,710
-Jackie?
2097
01:42:44,710 --> 01:42:48,023
-[Gasping weakly]
2098
01:42:48,023 --> 01:42:50,923
[Brother continue speaking
indistinctly in background]
2099
01:43:00,139 --> 01:43:03,522
-They're stupid!
-They're not stupid.
2100
01:43:03,522 --> 01:43:05,213
I'll show you.
2101
01:43:07,250 --> 01:43:10,425
-Oh, yeah, now.
-Oh.
2102
01:43:10,425 --> 01:43:12,324
[Television playing indistinctly
in background]
2103
01:43:12,324 --> 01:43:14,809
-Shut the door.
2104
01:43:16,431 --> 01:43:19,054
-With a combination bloodhound,
pointer, and hunting dog,
2105
01:43:19,054 --> 01:43:21,850
how could you get lost?
2106
01:43:21,850 --> 01:43:24,267
-Trina, I'm scared.
2107
01:43:24,267 --> 01:43:26,269
-It'll be all right.
2108
01:43:26,269 --> 01:43:28,926
[Television continues playing
indistinctly]
2109
01:43:30,859 --> 01:43:32,896
-Wait. She's slipping.
2110
01:43:32,896 --> 01:43:35,450
-Ah!
2111
01:43:35,450 --> 01:43:38,004
-You watch what you want to
watch and nobody...
2112
01:43:38,004 --> 01:43:39,454
-Hey!
2113
01:43:39,454 --> 01:43:41,560
[Brothers arguing indistinctly
in background]
2114
01:43:46,012 --> 01:43:47,393
-Ma!
2115
01:43:47,393 --> 01:43:49,706
[Television channels switching
in background]
2116
01:43:49,706 --> 01:43:56,299
♪♪
2117
01:43:56,299 --> 01:44:02,960
♪♪
2118
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,756
-[Screams]
2119
01:44:05,756 --> 01:44:08,656
Addley! Get in here!
It's play time!
2120
01:44:08,656 --> 01:44:12,004
[Women screaming]
2121
01:44:12,004 --> 01:44:17,837
♪♪
2122
01:44:17,837 --> 01:44:20,461
Think you were going away
without saying goodbye?
2123
01:44:20,461 --> 01:44:22,152
Huh? You're staying here.
-Ike!
2124
01:44:22,152 --> 01:44:23,567
-[Screams]
2125
01:44:23,567 --> 01:44:27,916
Ike! Addley!
Addley, Ike!
2126
01:44:27,916 --> 01:44:29,918
-Okay, let's get her
out of here.
2127
01:44:29,918 --> 01:44:32,507
-Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
2128
01:44:32,507 --> 01:44:35,130
She'll attack anything.
Anything!
2129
01:44:35,130 --> 01:44:37,892
Queenie's in the woods.
I've just seen her.
2130
01:44:37,892 --> 01:44:39,065
I don't know what
would have happened to me
2131
01:44:39,065 --> 01:44:40,584
if you boy hadn't come along!
2132
01:44:40,584 --> 01:44:41,758
-Aw, Ma.
2133
01:44:41,758 --> 01:44:44,070
-Your mother
was practically killed
2134
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:48,799
because you left me here
all alone, both of you!
2135
01:44:48,799 --> 01:44:50,249
Oh!
-Ma, Ma.
2136
01:44:50,249 --> 01:44:51,837
The girls are getting away.
The girls are getting away.
2137
01:44:51,837 --> 01:44:54,805
-Just help me up now.
2138
01:44:54,805 --> 01:44:58,188
Oh! And never mind the girls.
We'll get the girls.
2139
01:44:58,188 --> 01:45:01,985
But you just thank God
that your mother's all right.
2140
01:45:01,985 --> 01:45:04,815
[Complaining indistinctly]
2141
01:45:04,815 --> 01:45:13,721
♪♪
2142
01:45:13,721 --> 01:45:22,557
♪♪
2143
01:45:22,557 --> 01:45:31,428
♪♪
2144
01:45:31,428 --> 01:45:33,361
-[Grunting]
2145
01:45:33,361 --> 01:45:40,368
♪♪
2146
01:45:40,368 --> 01:45:47,375
♪♪
2147
01:45:47,375 --> 01:45:54,348
♪♪
2148
01:45:56,108 --> 01:45:58,869
We can't make it to the car
this way.
2149
01:45:58,869 --> 01:46:00,561
I'm sorry, Jackie.
2150
01:46:00,561 --> 01:46:02,356
Put her -- put her down.
Here.
2151
01:46:02,356 --> 01:46:05,773
[Grunting]
2152
01:46:09,949 --> 01:46:12,400
-[Moaning]
2153
01:46:28,865 --> 01:46:32,489
-Listen, I'm all right now,
2154
01:46:32,489 --> 01:46:34,698
I can handle this.
2155
01:46:34,698 --> 01:46:36,320
You go get help.
2156
01:46:40,601 --> 01:46:48,816
♪♪
2157
01:46:48,816 --> 01:46:56,962
♪♪
2158
01:46:56,962 --> 01:47:05,211
♪♪
2159
01:47:05,211 --> 01:47:13,427
♪♪
2160
01:47:13,427 --> 01:47:21,642
♪♪
2161
01:47:27,786 --> 01:47:30,029
-[Moaning]
2162
01:47:30,029 --> 01:47:39,694
♪♪
2163
01:47:39,694 --> 01:47:49,290
♪♪
2164
01:47:49,290 --> 01:47:51,499
-Son of a bitch!
2165
01:47:51,499 --> 01:47:55,814
♪♪
2166
01:47:55,814 --> 01:47:57,747
[Static crackling]
2167
01:47:57,747 --> 01:48:00,335
-By the way, the house
where all this takes place
2168
01:48:00,335 --> 01:48:02,993
had been abandoned
for 15 years at the time
2169
01:48:02,993 --> 01:48:05,271
Charles Kaufman and crew
took it over
2170
01:48:05,271 --> 01:48:07,722
and dressed it up
with pop-culture artifacts,
2171
01:48:07,722 --> 01:48:10,000
including the Big Bird
alarm clock
2172
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,864
that wakes Ike and Addley
every morning
2173
01:48:11,864 --> 01:48:15,696
so they can continue to train
to a fake "Rocky" theme
2174
01:48:15,696 --> 01:48:17,767
before setting out
to rape and kill
2175
01:48:17,767 --> 01:48:19,907
for the amusement of Mother.
2176
01:48:19,907 --> 01:48:22,668
And as I pointed out earlier,
it was Susan Kaufman,
2177
01:48:22,668 --> 01:48:24,636
the other Kaufman sibling,
2178
01:48:24,636 --> 01:48:27,431
who served as the
production designer/art director
2179
01:48:27,431 --> 01:48:29,951
and graffitied the house up
and outfitted it
2180
01:48:29,951 --> 01:48:33,023
with all those toys and gadgets
that we sometimes hear about
2181
01:48:33,023 --> 01:48:35,992
on 900-number commercials,
the same commercials
2182
01:48:35,992 --> 01:48:38,442
that are constantly
playing on the soundtrack.
2183
01:48:38,442 --> 01:48:41,722
The obvious implication
is that this insane family
2184
01:48:41,722 --> 01:48:44,241
is trying to improve itself,
2185
01:48:44,241 --> 01:48:46,209
because when Trina calls Ike
2186
01:48:46,209 --> 01:48:48,452
"a backwoods, perverted
piece of shit,"
2187
01:48:48,452 --> 01:48:51,559
the only word he objects to
is "backwoods."
2188
01:48:51,559 --> 01:48:53,492
Okay, Eli, turning it over
to you.
2189
01:48:53,492 --> 01:48:55,425
Any thoughts
on this last segment?
2190
01:48:55,425 --> 01:48:57,738
-Yeah, I -- I love
that training montage.
2191
01:48:57,738 --> 01:49:00,016
Like, and I also like
the music choices, that...
2192
01:49:00,016 --> 01:49:03,122
♪ Do-do-duuuun,
do-do-dun ♪
2193
01:49:03,122 --> 01:49:05,090
I asked Charles Kaufman
for copy of the score.
2194
01:49:05,090 --> 01:49:06,229
He said it's buried
in his house somewhere.
2195
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:07,506
I've been trying to get it,
2196
01:49:07,506 --> 01:49:12,131
but I wanted to get that
[vocalizing]
2197
01:49:12,131 --> 01:49:15,065
I loved it -- like, that switch
when they're joking around --
2198
01:49:15,065 --> 01:49:16,826
because that's one of the things
the movie does,
2199
01:49:16,826 --> 01:49:19,242
is it forces you
to like Ike and Addley.
2200
01:49:19,242 --> 01:49:21,520
-That's true.
They really do grow on you.
2201
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,315
-Like, they're monsters
and they're hillbillies,
2202
01:49:23,315 --> 01:49:24,627
but they're not like the fam--
2203
01:49:24,627 --> 01:49:26,387
not like
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
2204
01:49:26,387 --> 01:49:28,803
Like, you spend so much time
with these guys.
2205
01:49:28,803 --> 01:49:30,702
It's one of those movies
like "Maniac"
2206
01:49:30,702 --> 01:49:32,566
where you spend too much time
with a killer,
2207
01:49:32,566 --> 01:49:34,222
so you start to empathize
with them.
2208
01:49:34,222 --> 01:49:36,293
And you're like,
"Okay, if they didn't do that,
2209
01:49:36,293 --> 01:49:38,675
they'd be kind of fun."
-[Chuckles]
2210
01:49:38,675 --> 01:49:41,575
You do the soundtrack
way too well, Eli.
2211
01:49:41,575 --> 01:49:44,888
-It's like deep, deep --
you know, what is it? --
2212
01:49:44,888 --> 01:49:47,201
MKUltra programing
for "Mother's Day."
2213
01:49:47,201 --> 01:49:49,410
-I also wanted to ask you --
we didn't really talk
2214
01:49:49,410 --> 01:49:51,930
about the opening scene
of the movie,
2215
01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:54,691
which is a satire
of a self-help seminar
2216
01:49:54,691 --> 01:49:58,488
similar to Est
only it's called "Ego."
2217
01:49:58,488 --> 01:50:01,664
And everybody hugs and talks
about being transformed.
2218
01:50:01,664 --> 01:50:04,287
And the leader of it
is an obvious bullshitter
2219
01:50:04,287 --> 01:50:05,668
who's taking their money.
2220
01:50:05,668 --> 01:50:08,256
And you have something
parallel to that
2221
01:50:08,256 --> 01:50:10,327
in one of your other movies,
"The Green Inferno,"
2222
01:50:10,327 --> 01:50:12,571
only it's people
on a college campus
2223
01:50:12,571 --> 01:50:14,193
going to meetings about saving
2224
01:50:14,193 --> 01:50:16,333
the indigenous peoples
of the world.
2225
01:50:16,333 --> 01:50:18,853
And, actually, the whole movie
is kind of an indictment
2226
01:50:18,853 --> 01:50:21,615
of social justice warrior
motives.
2227
01:50:21,615 --> 01:50:23,064
-And it's about getting involved
in causes
2228
01:50:23,064 --> 01:50:25,239
you don't really understand
and vanity activism.
2229
01:50:25,239 --> 01:50:27,551
You know, the kids don't want
to save the Amazon.
2230
01:50:27,551 --> 01:50:29,657
They want credit
for saving the Amazon.
2231
01:50:29,657 --> 01:50:31,832
But I'll tell you something --
that Est opening
2232
01:50:31,832 --> 01:50:33,627
in "Mother's Day"
happened to me.
2233
01:50:33,627 --> 01:50:34,938
-Really? What do you mean?
2234
01:50:34,938 --> 01:50:37,527
-Friend of mine said --
I was at dinner with her,
2235
01:50:37,527 --> 01:50:39,909
and she said, "I got invited
to hear this guy speak.
2236
01:50:39,909 --> 01:50:41,945
He's this brilliant guy.
2237
01:50:41,945 --> 01:50:43,740
There's, like --
my roommate's going."
2238
01:50:43,740 --> 01:50:45,466
So I -- we went to this guy,
2239
01:50:45,466 --> 01:50:49,090
and he was this very handsome,
charming Mexican guy.
2240
01:50:49,090 --> 01:50:51,023
And then they start
passing out these things.
2241
01:50:51,023 --> 01:50:53,854
We realized they wanted
$10,000 from everybody
2242
01:50:53,854 --> 01:50:55,856
for a weekend therapy marathon.
-Whoa!
2243
01:50:55,856 --> 01:50:57,340
-So I started asking questions.
I was like,
2244
01:50:57,340 --> 01:50:58,928
"Why would you do that?
You're just tricking -- "
2245
01:50:58,928 --> 01:51:01,689
And I -- and the guy starts
getting mad at me,
2246
01:51:01,689 --> 01:51:03,104
basically like
I'm a troublemaker.
2247
01:51:03,104 --> 01:51:04,209
And I said to this girl,
2248
01:51:04,209 --> 01:51:06,004
"We're being recruited
for a cult.
2249
01:51:06,004 --> 01:51:08,765
This character, this guy" --
whose name was Alejandro --
2250
01:51:08,765 --> 01:51:10,387
"we're being recruited
for a cult."
2251
01:51:10,387 --> 01:51:12,942
And she's like, "Really?
But my friends are in it."
2252
01:51:12,942 --> 01:51:14,288
We left.
Do you know what it was?
2253
01:51:14,288 --> 01:51:16,911
-What?
-NXIVM, the sex cult.
2254
01:51:16,911 --> 01:51:19,017
-Oh, wow!
-That's what that was.
2255
01:51:19,017 --> 01:51:22,261
So that character, Alejandro,
of the charismatic guy
2256
01:51:22,261 --> 01:51:23,918
who has all the answers and
blah, blah, blah --
2257
01:51:23,918 --> 01:51:25,644
I wrote it into "Green Inferno."
2258
01:51:25,644 --> 01:51:29,441
-I find "The Green Inferno"
to be the hardest to watch
2259
01:51:29,441 --> 01:51:31,305
of all your movies,
2260
01:51:31,305 --> 01:51:33,548
um, once the cannibalism starts.
2261
01:51:33,548 --> 01:51:35,999
And I know you got criticized
by various organizations
2262
01:51:35,999 --> 01:51:38,692
for supposedly
perpetuating stereotypes
2263
01:51:38,692 --> 01:51:40,970
about wild Indian tribes
in the Amazon.
2264
01:51:40,970 --> 01:51:42,799
But the main thing
that impressed me
2265
01:51:42,799 --> 01:51:44,559
is you went to a village,
2266
01:51:44,559 --> 01:51:46,492
and you screened
"Cannibal Holocaust"
2267
01:51:46,492 --> 01:51:49,150
for villagers who had
never seen a movie before.
2268
01:51:49,150 --> 01:51:51,152
-I was in [indistinct] Aguirre
where he shot --
2269
01:51:51,152 --> 01:51:53,120
last movie that was there was
"Aguirre, the Wrath of God"
2270
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:54,431
in 1972.
2271
01:51:54,431 --> 01:51:56,882
And I went with
my Chilean producer
2272
01:51:56,882 --> 01:51:58,781
and we just got on a boat
and went up the river,
2273
01:51:58,781 --> 01:52:00,886
and then I saw these straw huts.
I'm like, "What is that?"
2274
01:52:00,886 --> 01:52:02,267
And they're like
"Oh, that's a village."
2275
01:52:02,267 --> 01:52:03,578
And we get off.
2276
01:52:03,578 --> 01:52:05,684
And I was, like, the first
white person they'd seen
2277
01:52:05,684 --> 01:52:08,169
And it was 300 people
that live in a village,
2278
01:52:08,169 --> 01:52:09,308
but they're farmers.
2279
01:52:09,308 --> 01:52:10,965
And I said,
"Can we film a movie here?"
2280
01:52:10,965 --> 01:52:13,278
And they said, "Well, we got to
explain to them what a movie is,
2281
01:52:13,278 --> 01:52:14,451
'cause they've never seen one."
2282
01:52:14,451 --> 01:52:16,419
-So how exactly did that work?
2283
01:52:16,419 --> 01:52:17,972
-I said to the producer,
Gustavo --
2284
01:52:17,972 --> 01:52:19,733
he's like, "We're gonna
come back with a television
2285
01:52:19,733 --> 01:52:20,941
and a generator,
2286
01:52:20,941 --> 01:52:23,115
and we're gonna show
the village a movie."
2287
01:52:23,115 --> 01:52:25,324
And so then I was in Chile,
and they called and they said,
2288
01:52:25,324 --> 01:52:26,463
"Hey, guess what?
The village said yes."
2289
01:52:26,463 --> 01:52:27,464
I was like, "Oh, what did you
show them?
2290
01:52:27,464 --> 01:52:28,603
'E.T.'? 'Wizard of Oz'"?
2291
01:52:28,603 --> 01:52:30,226
They said, "Cannibal Holocaust."
2292
01:52:30,226 --> 01:52:32,124
-Oh, my God.
[Laughter]
2293
01:52:32,124 --> 01:52:33,954
-He was like, "But don't worry.
They thought it was a comedy."
2294
01:52:33,954 --> 01:52:36,404
So I said, "Why would you
show them 'Cannibal Holocaust'?"
2295
01:52:36,404 --> 01:52:39,718
And they said, "Because we want
them to know how to act."
2296
01:52:39,718 --> 01:52:42,721
-Well, sure.
But for their first movie ever?
2297
01:52:42,721 --> 01:52:44,067
-The villagers loved it.
2298
01:52:44,067 --> 01:52:46,345
I mean, these people made
more money in three weeks
2299
01:52:46,345 --> 01:52:48,520
than they had
in years of working.
2300
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,040
And we got everyone involved
in the village.
2301
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,663
Everyone worked on the movie,
and they loved acting.
2302
01:52:53,663 --> 01:52:54,871
I mean, they were
some of the best actors
2303
01:52:54,871 --> 01:52:56,114
I ever worked with.
2304
01:52:56,114 --> 01:52:57,563
-Well, you would think.
given its reputation
2305
01:52:57,563 --> 01:53:00,497
that it's impossible
to do an homage
2306
01:53:00,497 --> 01:53:03,535
to "Cannibal Holocaust,"
but somehow you pulled that off,
2307
01:53:03,535 --> 01:53:07,228
and you became buddies
with Ruggero Deodato, right?
2308
01:53:07,228 --> 01:53:08,920
-I -- I love Ruggero.
2309
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,405
I met Ruggero when I came to --
to --
2310
01:53:11,405 --> 01:53:13,717
uh, I went to Rome
with "Hostel,"
2311
01:53:13,717 --> 01:53:15,719
and I got to meet, like,
Dario Argento,
2312
01:53:15,719 --> 01:53:17,998
Ruggero Deodato, Sergio Martino.
2313
01:53:17,998 --> 01:53:20,794
I just sought out
all my favorite directors,
2314
01:53:20,794 --> 01:53:22,968
screened the movie for them,
had lunch with them,
2315
01:53:22,968 --> 01:53:25,246
and Ruggero was so funny
and so warm
2316
01:53:25,246 --> 01:53:27,110
and had the best stories
that I wrote a part for him
2317
01:53:27,110 --> 01:53:29,250
in "Hostel II"
playing a cannibal.
2318
01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:30,907
-Perfect casting. All right.
2319
01:53:30,907 --> 01:53:33,289
Well, we're starting to ramp up
the violence in "Mother's Day,"
2320
01:53:33,289 --> 01:53:35,222
so let's get back to the movie.
2321
01:53:35,222 --> 01:53:37,880
And since you're here with us,
I want to -- I want you
2322
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:41,262
to give us your opinion
of the quality of these kills,
2323
01:53:41,262 --> 01:53:43,126
'cause we always
talk about this.
2324
01:53:43,126 --> 01:53:45,370
Do you care whether it's
practical effects or not?
2325
01:53:45,370 --> 01:53:46,750
-I do.
2326
01:53:46,750 --> 01:53:48,683
I do. I prefer practical,
2327
01:53:48,683 --> 01:53:50,409
but until it becomes
impractical.
2328
01:53:50,409 --> 01:53:52,826
You know, I think that
digital effects, like anything,
2329
01:53:52,826 --> 01:53:55,035
is an art form and you really
need an eye for it.
2330
01:53:55,035 --> 01:53:57,278
But I also don't just
give it over to a scene
2331
01:53:57,278 --> 01:53:59,211
becausethey use
practical effects.
2332
01:53:59,211 --> 01:54:00,212
It still has to be a good scene.
2333
01:54:00,212 --> 01:54:02,421
-Okay, back to the movie.
2334
01:54:02,421 --> 01:54:04,803
And, Eli,
2335
01:54:04,803 --> 01:54:08,600
you did that thing that we hate
here at "The Last Drive-In."
2336
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:10,844
You gave an interview
where you said,
2337
01:54:10,844 --> 01:54:13,536
"Don't call me
a horror director."
2338
01:54:13,536 --> 01:54:15,538
Do you have any defense
for yourself?
2339
01:54:15,538 --> 01:54:17,712
-When people use
the term "horror director,"
2340
01:54:17,712 --> 01:54:20,370
they use it as a diss,
so that's what I don't like.
2341
01:54:20,370 --> 01:54:24,064
It's like that when people say
that you're a horror director,
2342
01:54:24,064 --> 01:54:26,204
it's like we don't make
realmovies.
2343
01:54:26,204 --> 01:54:27,999
It's like, well, actually,
the movies that I make,
2344
01:54:27,999 --> 01:54:29,379
horror movies are the ones
we're talking about
2345
01:54:29,379 --> 01:54:30,864
40 years later.
2346
01:54:30,864 --> 01:54:33,936
Your "art movies" that are
at Sundance or Oscar winners --
2347
01:54:33,936 --> 01:54:35,247
people forget about them
two years later.
2348
01:54:35,247 --> 01:54:36,490
They don't make
a mark on culture.
2349
01:54:36,490 --> 01:54:37,698
Nobody cares about them.
2350
01:54:37,698 --> 01:54:39,148
They're not still running
on television.
2351
01:54:39,148 --> 01:54:40,597
"Oh, you make torture porn."
2352
01:54:40,597 --> 01:54:42,634
It's like, I made a movie.
Someone else called it that.
2353
01:54:42,634 --> 01:54:44,291
I have no control over that.
2354
01:54:44,291 --> 01:54:45,602
So it's not like --
I'm not like,
2355
01:54:45,602 --> 01:54:46,914
"Don't call me
a horror director!"
2356
01:54:46,914 --> 01:54:48,157
I just go, "Okay."
2357
01:54:48,157 --> 01:54:50,159
If someone refers to me
as a horror director,
2358
01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:52,713
I kind of know what they think
of horror movies, that's all.
2359
01:54:52,713 --> 01:54:54,301
It's just a character reveal.
2360
01:54:54,301 --> 01:54:57,718
-Okay, well, see, we think
you can bea horror director
2361
01:54:57,718 --> 01:54:59,375
and still do other things.
2362
01:54:59,375 --> 01:55:01,791
It's a term of honor
in our circle.
2363
01:55:01,791 --> 01:55:04,552
Although you made
a children's movie, Eli.
2364
01:55:04,552 --> 01:55:06,658
That might be unforgivable.
2365
01:55:06,658 --> 01:55:08,073
-It was a children's
horror movie.
2366
01:55:08,073 --> 01:55:10,282
If you're 8 years old,
that's a scary movie.
2367
01:55:10,282 --> 01:55:14,804
I wanted to do a PG scary movie,
like a Tim Burton kind of film.
2368
01:55:14,804 --> 01:55:17,013
-All right, then I -- I guess
we can let that slide.
2369
01:55:17,013 --> 01:55:18,946
[Laughter]
2370
01:55:23,295 --> 01:55:25,228
[Static crackling]
2371
01:55:25,228 --> 01:55:28,991
♪♪
2372
01:55:28,991 --> 01:55:31,407
[Wind whistling,
insects chirping]
2373
01:55:54,637 --> 01:56:03,439
♪♪
2374
01:56:03,439 --> 01:56:12,206
♪♪
2375
01:56:12,206 --> 01:56:13,656
[Brakes screech]
2376
01:56:13,656 --> 01:56:15,623
-Oh, please stop!
2377
01:56:15,623 --> 01:56:18,730
Officer. Officer.
2378
01:56:18,730 --> 01:56:20,939
Oh.
2379
01:56:20,939 --> 01:56:23,838
Officer, Officer, thank God!
2380
01:56:23,838 --> 01:56:25,323
Thank God you're here.
2381
01:56:25,323 --> 01:56:28,395
[Sobbing]
2382
01:56:28,395 --> 01:56:30,914
♪♪
2383
01:56:30,914 --> 01:56:33,158
After us.
-You'll be fine.
2384
01:56:33,158 --> 01:56:34,918
You'll be safe.
2385
01:56:34,918 --> 01:56:36,127
-They -- they --
2386
01:56:36,127 --> 01:56:39,268
-♪ The very first one you meet ♪
2387
01:56:39,268 --> 01:56:41,511
-[Screaming]
2388
01:56:41,511 --> 01:56:47,586
♪♪
2389
01:56:47,586 --> 01:56:49,588
-[Singing indistinctly]
2390
01:56:49,588 --> 01:56:52,039
-[Screaming]
2391
01:56:52,039 --> 01:56:54,352
-[Continues singing]
2392
01:56:54,352 --> 01:56:56,181
Oh!
2393
01:56:56,181 --> 01:57:02,015
♪♪
2394
01:57:02,015 --> 01:57:04,189
[Gunshots]
2395
01:57:04,189 --> 01:57:07,123
♪♪
2396
01:57:07,123 --> 01:57:11,162
-[Moaning]
2397
01:57:11,162 --> 01:57:12,784
-Jackie.
2398
01:57:18,445 --> 01:57:20,585
Jackie?
2399
01:57:24,554 --> 01:57:26,177
Jackie.
2400
01:57:29,421 --> 01:57:31,941
Jackie!
2401
01:57:32,907 --> 01:57:35,600
[Sobbing] No!
2402
01:57:36,911 --> 01:57:39,017
Jackie!
2403
01:57:40,984 --> 01:57:50,442
♪♪
2404
01:57:50,442 --> 01:57:59,900
♪♪
2405
01:57:59,900 --> 01:58:09,461
♪♪
2406
01:58:09,461 --> 01:58:11,946
-[Panting]
2407
01:58:11,946 --> 01:58:19,885
♪♪
2408
01:58:19,885 --> 01:58:27,859
♪♪
2409
01:58:27,859 --> 01:58:35,832
♪♪
2410
01:58:35,832 --> 01:58:37,179
Oh!
2411
01:58:37,179 --> 01:58:39,526
[Grunts]
2412
01:58:40,837 --> 01:58:43,392
-You're not going anywhere now,
bitch!
2413
01:58:43,392 --> 01:58:45,842
-[Panting, gasping]
2414
01:58:45,842 --> 01:58:53,643
♪♪
2415
01:58:53,643 --> 01:58:56,715
[Insects chirping,
labored breathing]
2416
01:58:56,715 --> 01:59:06,139
♪♪
2417
01:59:06,139 --> 01:59:15,527
♪♪
2418
01:59:15,527 --> 01:59:24,812
♪♪
2419
01:59:24,812 --> 01:59:28,230
[Panting]
2420
01:59:28,230 --> 01:59:30,577
♪♪
2421
01:59:30,577 --> 01:59:34,719
-[Shouting indistinctly]
2422
01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:43,037
♪♪
2423
01:59:43,037 --> 01:59:51,322
♪♪
2424
01:59:51,322 --> 01:59:59,571
♪♪
2425
01:59:59,571 --> 02:00:00,883
[Grunts]
2426
02:00:00,883 --> 02:00:03,506
-[Grunting]
2427
02:00:03,506 --> 02:00:05,094
-You bitch!
2428
02:00:05,094 --> 02:00:06,958
You're dead now!
2429
02:00:06,958 --> 02:00:14,345
♪♪
2430
02:00:14,345 --> 02:00:21,731
♪♪
2431
02:00:21,731 --> 02:00:29,118
♪♪
2432
02:00:29,118 --> 02:00:31,016
[Ragged breathing]
2433
02:00:31,016 --> 02:00:40,612
♪♪
2434
02:00:40,612 --> 02:00:50,208
♪♪
2435
02:00:50,208 --> 02:00:59,769
♪♪
2436
02:00:59,769 --> 02:01:01,737
[Rustling]
2437
02:01:01,737 --> 02:01:07,743
♪♪
2438
02:01:07,743 --> 02:01:10,711
[Ragged breathing]
2439
02:01:10,711 --> 02:01:19,479
♪♪
2440
02:01:19,479 --> 02:01:28,246
♪♪
2441
02:01:28,246 --> 02:01:36,979
♪♪
2442
02:01:36,979 --> 02:01:45,712
♪♪
2443
02:01:45,712 --> 02:01:49,129
[Exhales]
2444
02:01:49,129 --> 02:01:58,725
♪♪
2445
02:01:58,725 --> 02:02:08,424
♪♪
2446
02:02:08,424 --> 02:02:18,020
♪♪
2447
02:02:18,020 --> 02:02:27,685
♪♪
2448
02:02:27,685 --> 02:02:37,280
♪♪
2449
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,455
-[Grunting softly]
2450
02:02:39,455 --> 02:02:43,666
♪♪
2451
02:02:43,666 --> 02:02:46,566
-[Whooping]
Whoa!
2452
02:02:46,566 --> 02:02:51,191
[Grunting, groaning]
2453
02:02:51,191 --> 02:02:56,955
♪♪
2454
02:02:56,955 --> 02:03:02,823
♪♪
2455
02:03:02,823 --> 02:03:05,792
You bitch!
2456
02:03:05,792 --> 02:03:10,003
You...bitch!
2457
02:03:10,003 --> 02:03:12,868
[Frustrated roar]
2458
02:03:12,868 --> 02:03:17,182
[Insects chirping]
2459
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,292
[Rusting, gasping]
2460
02:03:24,707 --> 02:03:26,122
-Abbey! Are you --
2461
02:03:26,122 --> 02:03:28,918
Oh! Jesus! Abbey!
[Gasping]
2462
02:03:28,918 --> 02:03:31,749
I c--
I can't...
2463
02:03:31,749 --> 02:03:33,440
Je--
2464
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:36,926
We're fucked,
he's the police!
2465
02:03:36,926 --> 02:03:39,860
[Gasping]
2466
02:03:39,860 --> 02:03:46,004
♪♪
2467
02:03:46,004 --> 02:03:51,769
[Wailing]
2468
02:03:51,769 --> 02:03:58,741
[Sobbing, breathing raggedly]
2469
02:04:11,996 --> 02:04:13,446
-We'll get them.
2470
02:04:16,794 --> 02:04:20,073
We'll get those bastards.
2471
02:04:20,073 --> 02:04:25,181
♪♪
2472
02:04:25,181 --> 02:04:28,806
[Static, folksy tune]
2473
02:04:28,806 --> 02:04:31,429
♪♪
2474
02:04:31,429 --> 02:04:33,845
-You know, I've always said
that the Kaufman family
2475
02:04:33,845 --> 02:04:35,157
will do anything,
2476
02:04:35,157 --> 02:04:37,262
Lloyd, especially --
there is nothing he feels
2477
02:04:37,262 --> 02:04:38,850
that's beyond
the boundaries of taste.
2478
02:04:38,850 --> 02:04:40,749
He'll put babies in gun battles.
2479
02:04:40,749 --> 02:04:42,440
He'll make jokes about AIDS.
2480
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,028
But I think that here
2481
02:04:44,028 --> 02:04:47,341
where Jackie has been
literally raped to death,
2482
02:04:47,341 --> 02:04:49,999
I think all the Kaufmans
would agree
2483
02:04:49,999 --> 02:04:52,243
the hillbillies have to pay.
2484
02:04:52,243 --> 02:04:53,727
What do you say, Eli?
2485
02:04:53,727 --> 02:04:55,453
-Yeah, you can't just
get away with that.
2486
02:04:55,453 --> 02:04:58,387
You know, even in 1980,
you couldn't just get away.
2487
02:04:58,387 --> 02:04:59,802
Let your char--
It's not "Funny --"
2488
02:04:59,802 --> 02:05:01,701
"Funny Games"
hadn't been invented yet.
2489
02:05:01,701 --> 02:05:04,082
You had to -- if you're going
to do something
2490
02:05:04,082 --> 02:05:05,739
that horrible
to the female characters,
2491
02:05:05,739 --> 02:05:07,776
the guys have to really,
really get it.
2492
02:05:07,776 --> 02:05:09,536
-The actual hillbilly house
for this
2493
02:05:09,536 --> 02:05:11,124
was in Newton, New Jersey.
2494
02:05:11,124 --> 02:05:14,230
There had been a murder
there many years before,
2495
02:05:14,230 --> 02:05:16,094
which is why it was abandoned.
2496
02:05:16,094 --> 02:05:18,165
And they also filmed
in Stillwater,
2497
02:05:18,165 --> 02:05:20,133
and more importantly,
Blairstown,
2498
02:05:20,133 --> 02:05:21,997
which is where
many scenes from
2499
02:05:21,997 --> 02:05:23,826
"Friday the 13th"
were filmed.
2500
02:05:23,826 --> 02:05:26,242
I'm surprised you didn't go
to these iconic
2501
02:05:26,242 --> 02:05:29,211
New Jersey locations
for "Cabin Fever."
2502
02:05:29,211 --> 02:05:30,971
-I wanted to shoot,
but North Carolina
2503
02:05:30,971 --> 02:05:32,455
was where the money
was coming out of.
2504
02:05:32,455 --> 02:05:33,767
So I looked for places
2505
02:05:33,767 --> 02:05:35,976
that looked like
"Mother's Day," for sure.
2506
02:05:35,976 --> 02:05:39,359
But I did almost make a movie
set in the Pine Barrens.
2507
02:05:39,359 --> 02:05:40,912
It's actually
a very bizarre place
2508
02:05:40,912 --> 02:05:42,707
with a lot of cool folklore.
2509
02:05:42,707 --> 02:05:45,089
-Also, I want to mention
the co-screenwriter,
2510
02:05:45,089 --> 02:05:50,543
along with Charles Kaufman,
Warren Leight,
2511
02:05:50,543 --> 02:05:52,924
who wrote the immortal
"Stuck on You!" --
2512
02:05:52,924 --> 02:05:54,063
a Troma sex comedy
2513
02:05:54,063 --> 02:05:55,824
starring Professor Irwin Corey,
2514
02:05:55,824 --> 02:05:57,308
if anybody remembers him.
2515
02:05:57,308 --> 02:05:59,068
And Warren Leight today is
2516
02:05:59,068 --> 02:06:01,554
the chief writer
and showrunner on
2517
02:06:01,554 --> 02:06:04,073
"Law & Order:
Special Victims Unit."
2518
02:06:04,073 --> 02:06:06,869
What else before we
wind this up?
2519
02:06:06,869 --> 02:06:11,322
Oh, the movie was banned
in the United Kingdom
2520
02:06:11,322 --> 02:06:12,875
right up until 2015.
2521
02:06:12,875 --> 02:06:14,428
Have you been banned
in the UK, Eli?
2522
02:06:14,428 --> 02:06:16,707
-Yeah, for sure.
2523
02:06:16,707 --> 02:06:19,157
In fact, a member of
parliament in England
2524
02:06:19,157 --> 02:06:21,021
tried to make
all press materials
2525
02:06:21,021 --> 02:06:23,645
and all material illegal,
2526
02:06:23,645 --> 02:06:25,370
anything "Hostel II" related.
2527
02:06:25,370 --> 02:06:28,201
So I'd like to thank
MP Charles Walker for that.
2528
02:06:28,201 --> 02:06:30,583
I was so happy, I think I wrote
him a thank you note.
2529
02:06:30,583 --> 02:06:32,757
It was the best press
I ever got for a movie.
2530
02:06:32,757 --> 02:06:35,829
-So the parallels
with "Mother's Day" continue.
2531
02:06:35,829 --> 02:06:38,591
It was on Roger Ebert's
most hated movies list.
2532
02:06:38,591 --> 02:06:42,595
You know, what was up with
Roger Ebert and horror anyway?
2533
02:06:42,595 --> 02:06:44,735
-I remember watching Roger
review "The Children"
2534
02:06:44,735 --> 02:06:46,771
and hating that movie --
one of my favorite movies --
2535
02:06:46,771 --> 02:06:49,671
another Massachusetts-set
horror movie, great film.
2536
02:06:49,671 --> 02:06:51,880
He hated --
Anything that's a great
2537
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:54,710
horror movie, if Roger Ebert
hated it, as a kid,
2538
02:06:54,710 --> 02:06:56,850
like "Motel Hell,"
it just made me
2539
02:06:56,850 --> 02:06:58,438
want to see it
a hundred times more.
2540
02:06:58,438 --> 02:07:00,647
That was like a qualification
as a kid,
2541
02:07:00,647 --> 02:07:03,029
for it had to get
the "Dog of the Week."
2542
02:07:03,029 --> 02:07:06,239
-Well, there was also a remake
of "Mother's Day" in 2012,
2543
02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:08,517
very loose remake
that got rid of all the comedy.
2544
02:07:08,517 --> 02:07:10,105
What did you think
of the remake?
2545
02:07:10,105 --> 02:07:12,141
-Darren Bousman asked me
to play a character
2546
02:07:12,141 --> 02:07:15,731
named Charlie Kaufman in it,
but I was unable to do it.
2547
02:07:15,731 --> 02:07:19,045
And I like Darren, but yeah, for
me, the movie is those actors,
2548
02:07:19,045 --> 02:07:21,219
like, Ike and Addley
make the movie for me.
2549
02:07:21,219 --> 02:07:23,877
-I totally agree --
and so, sum it up for us, Eli,
2550
02:07:23,877 --> 02:07:25,776
since you're one of
the world's foremost experts
2551
02:07:25,776 --> 02:07:27,329
on "Mother's Day,"
2552
02:07:27,329 --> 02:07:30,746
what's the combination that made
it such a groundbreaking movie
2553
02:07:30,746 --> 02:07:33,438
in the year 1980?
2554
02:07:33,438 --> 02:07:36,269
-In the year 1980,
everything was the slasher POV
2555
02:07:36,269 --> 02:07:40,583
and the final girl and the sort
of the Michael Myers shape
2556
02:07:40,583 --> 02:07:43,276
or Jason;
the killers didn't talk.
2557
02:07:43,276 --> 02:07:44,829
I mean, it's one of the reasons
Dracula endures,
2558
02:07:44,829 --> 02:07:46,210
you know, the mummy doesn't
talk, the wolf man doesn't.
2559
02:07:46,210 --> 02:07:49,834
Like, Freddy Krueger
kind of changed that in 1984.
2560
02:07:49,834 --> 02:07:51,456
-Right.
-'Cause he was a slasher
2561
02:07:51,456 --> 02:07:53,493
who spoke --
same thing with Chucky.
2562
02:07:53,493 --> 02:07:56,151
But at the time
you weren't watching a movie.
2563
02:07:56,151 --> 02:07:57,842
It wasn't a normal movie.
2564
02:07:57,842 --> 02:08:00,396
It didn't play by the rules
of normal films
2565
02:08:00,396 --> 02:08:03,434
because you're spending
so much time with the murderers,
2566
02:08:03,434 --> 02:08:05,747
with the mom and with
the characters, the kids.
2567
02:08:05,747 --> 02:08:07,541
So that wasn't normally done.
2568
02:08:07,541 --> 02:08:09,233
That wasn't like
"The Prowler,"
2569
02:08:09,233 --> 02:08:10,855
where you're guessing
who the killer is.
2570
02:08:10,855 --> 02:08:13,030
They're showing you the killer
in broad daylight,
2571
02:08:13,030 --> 02:08:14,825
not only are they revealing
who the killer is,
2572
02:08:14,825 --> 02:08:17,241
you're learning literally
everything about them
2573
02:08:17,241 --> 02:08:18,518
and all of their back stories.
2574
02:08:18,518 --> 02:08:20,071
That's what makes it
so different.
2575
02:08:20,071 --> 02:08:21,452
And even as a kid, I was like,
2576
02:08:21,452 --> 02:08:23,557
there's just something
different about this movie.
2577
02:08:23,557 --> 02:08:25,456
-Well, I'm going to have you
write these kill scenes
2578
02:08:25,456 --> 02:08:27,147
at the beginning
of the next movie
2579
02:08:27,147 --> 02:08:28,735
because we got to
take care of business.
2580
02:08:28,735 --> 02:08:32,187
But by now,
we finished off about,
2581
02:08:32,187 --> 02:08:33,878
I don't know,
16 different kinds
2582
02:08:33,878 --> 02:08:37,468
of Charles Kaufman pastries,
breads and pies.
2583
02:08:37,468 --> 02:08:39,781
And so it's time for a verdict.
2584
02:08:39,781 --> 02:08:43,439
Austin, is he a better
director...
2585
02:08:43,439 --> 02:08:46,270
or Baker?
2586
02:08:46,270 --> 02:08:48,859
Oh, your mouth is full, okay!
2587
02:08:48,859 --> 02:08:51,482
[Laughing]
I guess we got our answer.
2588
02:08:51,482 --> 02:08:55,210
Oh, well, you grew up
in Boston, Eli.
2589
02:08:55,210 --> 02:08:57,971
Where would you go to watch
a movie like "Mother's Day"?
2590
02:08:57,971 --> 02:09:00,180
Did you ever go
to the old Combat Zone?
2591
02:09:00,180 --> 02:09:02,665
Did they have grindhouses
in the Combat Zone?
2592
02:09:02,665 --> 02:09:05,254
Something tells me you would
know your way around there.
2593
02:09:05,254 --> 02:09:08,948
-By the time I got old enough
to go there, it got cleaned up.
2594
02:09:08,948 --> 02:09:11,882
The Combat Zone was still
dangerous when I was a kid,
2595
02:09:11,882 --> 02:09:13,987
and there were
grindhouse theaters,
2596
02:09:13,987 --> 02:09:15,817
there was a theater
called the Pussycat Theatre.
2597
02:09:15,817 --> 02:09:18,405
Now there's like vintage mugs
and t-shirts of it.
2598
02:09:18,405 --> 02:09:20,373
But that was the last place
2599
02:09:20,373 --> 02:09:22,168
you could go
to see those kinds of films.
2600
02:09:22,168 --> 02:09:23,548
-That is such a shame.
2601
02:09:23,548 --> 02:09:24,998
-There was one drive-in
2602
02:09:24,998 --> 02:09:27,449
that was like way
the hell out there,
2603
02:09:27,449 --> 02:09:29,002
and that drive-in
would show movies
2604
02:09:29,002 --> 02:09:31,971
like "The Gates of Hell"
or "Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
2605
02:09:31,971 --> 02:09:34,318
But I really saw these movies
on video
2606
02:09:34,318 --> 02:09:35,975
because by the time, you know,
when I was
2607
02:09:35,975 --> 02:09:37,010
eight, nine, 10 years old,
2608
02:09:37,010 --> 02:09:38,494
looking at
the ads in the newspaper,
2609
02:09:38,494 --> 02:09:40,117
I was too young to go.
2610
02:09:40,117 --> 02:09:43,120
[Static, folksy tune]
2611
02:09:46,882 --> 02:09:49,264
-Grooming, some worshippers say
they love it,
2612
02:09:49,264 --> 02:09:52,405
but dermatologists are worried
about the nation's new
2613
02:09:52,405 --> 02:09:53,889
year-round suntan craze.
2614
02:09:53,889 --> 02:09:56,236
Amy Nevin concludes
her special report,
2615
02:09:56,236 --> 02:09:59,136
"Tanning Clinics:
Safe or sorry?"
2616
02:09:59,136 --> 02:10:01,586
-What types of reactions do you
get from customers...
2617
02:10:01,586 --> 02:10:03,623
[Dice rattling]
2618
02:10:03,623 --> 02:10:06,005
-Well, I have everything from,
"Oh, its the most marvelous
2619
02:10:06,005 --> 02:10:07,834
thing I ever heard of,
this is what I've been
2620
02:10:07,834 --> 02:10:09,008
waiting for all my life," to,
2621
02:10:09,008 --> 02:10:10,595
"This is the height
of decadence --"
2622
02:10:10,595 --> 02:10:13,357
-Addley, I just doubled ya!
2623
02:10:13,357 --> 02:10:15,704
-Ma, I can't with those
girls out there!
2624
02:10:15,704 --> 02:10:19,501
-Now, that is Ike's job,
and Ike'll bring 'em back!
2625
02:10:19,501 --> 02:10:21,952
Now, come on, Addley,
you gotta always wanna play,
2626
02:10:21,952 --> 02:10:23,850
'cause that's polite
2627
02:10:23,850 --> 02:10:26,266
-Well, I want
to be out there with Ike!
2628
02:10:26,266 --> 02:10:27,889
Getting the girls and stuff.
2629
02:10:27,889 --> 02:10:31,133
-Girls, girls, girls --
what about me?
2630
02:10:31,133 --> 02:10:35,586
I want someone here with me
when Queenie's on the prowl.
2631
02:10:35,586 --> 02:10:37,519
[Chuckles]
And besides,
2632
02:10:37,519 --> 02:10:39,072
ain't we havin' fun?
2633
02:10:39,072 --> 02:10:40,591
[Laughs]
2634
02:10:40,591 --> 02:10:43,490
-Grandma says
Queenie's dead.
2635
02:10:43,490 --> 02:10:45,665
-Now, come on, Addley,
it's your roll.
2636
02:10:45,665 --> 02:10:47,460
-...healthy looking tan,
2637
02:10:47,460 --> 02:10:49,462
save up your money
and go to Jamaica,
2638
02:10:49,462 --> 02:10:50,877
or take a trip to one of
2639
02:10:50,877 --> 02:10:53,569
New Jersey's
new tanning salons.
2640
02:10:53,569 --> 02:10:57,263
-All my life, I ain't never seen
no Queenie.
2641
02:10:57,263 --> 02:11:00,162
Ike says you say
Queenie's still alive
2642
02:11:00,162 --> 02:11:02,095
just so as you can
keep us around you.
2643
02:11:04,442 --> 02:11:07,687
-I try to give you boys
a respectful life,
2644
02:11:07,687 --> 02:11:09,620
and this is the thanks I get!
2645
02:11:09,620 --> 02:11:12,140
Okay, get out there and have fun
with your brother Ike!
2646
02:11:12,140 --> 02:11:15,626
Don't worry about me
being here with nobody around!
2647
02:11:15,626 --> 02:11:18,077
-Aw, Ma --
-Addley, my sister Queenie
2648
02:11:18,077 --> 02:11:19,975
was evil from birth!
2649
02:11:19,975 --> 02:11:22,944
She was the most contrary baby
they ever did see!
2650
02:11:22,944 --> 02:11:24,704
Why, she was the only baby
they ever seen
2651
02:11:24,704 --> 02:11:27,845
with a full head of long
white hair when she was born.
2652
02:11:27,845 --> 02:11:31,745
And you know she broke my neck
while I was still in the crib!
2653
02:11:31,745 --> 02:11:35,680
-Yeah, but Grandma says
she shot Queenie after that,
2654
02:11:35,680 --> 02:11:37,579
cut off her ear to prove it.
2655
02:11:37,579 --> 02:11:39,546
-She swears that
her customers are --
2656
02:11:39,546 --> 02:11:42,135
-That ear don't mean nothin'!
2657
02:11:42,135 --> 02:11:44,862
I know she set Queenie loose,
'cause I seen her,
2658
02:11:44,862 --> 02:11:46,277
livin' like a swamp rat,
2659
02:11:46,277 --> 02:11:50,074
feeding off animal waste
and garbage and flesh!
2660
02:11:50,074 --> 02:11:51,904
And that no more
than 50 yards away
2661
02:11:51,904 --> 02:11:55,114
from where
I am sitting right now!
2662
02:11:55,114 --> 02:11:58,186
I saw Queenie outrace
a mongrel wolf
2663
02:11:58,186 --> 02:12:00,533
and then rip open its throat
with her bare hands
2664
02:12:00,533 --> 02:12:02,707
just so she could
see it bleed!
2665
02:12:02,707 --> 02:12:06,159
And you want to leave me here
with nobody around?!
2666
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:08,230
-Aw, Ma, I don't want
to leave you alone.
2667
02:12:08,230 --> 02:12:11,164
-Then you will
never leave me.
2668
02:12:11,164 --> 02:12:13,926
You just promise me
that you and your brother
2669
02:12:13,926 --> 02:12:17,170
will never leave me, ever!
2670
02:12:17,170 --> 02:12:20,725
♪♪
2671
02:12:20,725 --> 02:12:22,417
-Yes, Ma.
2672
02:12:22,417 --> 02:12:30,735
♪♪
2673
02:12:30,735 --> 02:12:39,089
♪♪
2674
02:12:39,089 --> 02:12:47,407
♪♪
2675
02:12:47,407 --> 02:12:55,760
♪♪
2676
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:57,624
-[Grunts]
Ow!
2677
02:12:57,624 --> 02:13:06,392
♪♪
2678
02:13:06,392 --> 02:13:15,056
♪♪
2679
02:13:15,056 --> 02:13:23,719
♪♪
2680
02:13:23,719 --> 02:13:32,383
♪♪
2681
02:13:32,383 --> 02:13:41,047
♪♪
2682
02:13:41,047 --> 02:13:44,326
-[Grunting]
2683
02:13:47,295 --> 02:13:49,262
-I want Jackie to see this.
2684
02:13:52,921 --> 02:13:56,131
Jackie, everywhere you turned
in life, you got shit.
2685
02:13:58,340 --> 02:14:01,136
Well, now we'll do
the fighting back for you.
2686
02:14:27,162 --> 02:14:30,303
It's the only thing we can do.
2687
02:14:30,303 --> 02:14:34,066
We can't give up,
we've gotten this far!
2688
02:14:39,726 --> 02:14:42,729
Brat...
2689
02:14:42,729 --> 02:14:45,215
-Pack...
-Pack.
2690
02:14:45,215 --> 02:14:47,527
Forever.
2691
02:14:47,527 --> 02:14:55,397
♪♪
2692
02:14:55,397 --> 02:14:58,262
-There's a film on your teeth
2693
02:14:58,262 --> 02:14:59,712
to the gum and beneath
2694
02:14:59,712 --> 02:15:03,198
that can make
any smile look inferior.
2695
02:15:03,198 --> 02:15:04,648
♪ For this film
on your teeth -- ♪
2696
02:15:04,648 --> 02:15:07,306
-After all my teachin'
and workin' and trainin',
2697
02:15:07,306 --> 02:15:09,135
this is what get.
2698
02:15:09,135 --> 02:15:12,069
He loses two city gals
in the woods!
2699
02:15:12,069 --> 02:15:15,624
[Snorts, scoffs]
2700
02:15:15,624 --> 02:15:20,526
-"E," uh, "O,"
2701
02:15:20,526 --> 02:15:25,082
"T," "E."
2702
02:15:25,082 --> 02:15:26,290
Boat!
2703
02:15:26,290 --> 02:15:29,811
I got it, Ma -- Ouija says
they're on a boat!
2704
02:15:29,811 --> 02:15:32,400
-Idiot, they can't go nowhere
without the car!
2705
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:34,747
-Addley, you tell your brother
Ike, a hound dog
2706
02:15:34,747 --> 02:15:36,783
that comes home with nothing
in his mouth,
2707
02:15:36,783 --> 02:15:38,509
should keep it closed.
2708
02:15:38,509 --> 02:15:40,718
-Ike, Ma says a hound dog
2709
02:15:40,718 --> 02:15:44,584
that comes home...
2710
02:15:44,584 --> 02:15:47,277
e-empty handed, should keep...
2711
02:15:47,277 --> 02:15:49,382
keep your
big fat mouth shut!
2712
02:15:49,382 --> 02:15:51,557
-Shut up, idiot,
I got ears!
2713
02:15:51,557 --> 02:15:55,940
-♪ ...if you have got
in your oral... ♪
2714
02:15:55,940 --> 02:15:59,151
-Ma?
2715
02:15:59,151 --> 02:16:04,949
Well, she fooled me,
I'm all tor up about it, Ma.
2716
02:16:04,949 --> 02:16:06,675
I'm sorry, I sh--
2717
02:16:08,712 --> 02:16:11,853
I'm sorry I shamed ya, Ma.
2718
02:16:11,853 --> 02:16:13,786
Give me another chance?
2719
02:16:13,786 --> 02:16:15,995
I'll kill 'em good.
2720
02:16:15,995 --> 02:16:17,410
-Addley, you tell your brother
2721
02:16:17,410 --> 02:16:19,274
this time
we're going to do it right,
2722
02:16:19,274 --> 02:16:22,450
no more police car gags.
2723
02:16:22,450 --> 02:16:25,729
You go into the kitchen
and bring me my woods map!
2724
02:16:31,666 --> 02:16:33,081
♪♪
2725
02:16:33,081 --> 02:16:35,601
-Get the antenna
out of the bag.
2726
02:16:35,601 --> 02:16:42,504
♪♪
2727
02:16:42,504 --> 02:16:44,541
[Thud]
2728
02:16:46,577 --> 02:16:47,854
-Ma?
2729
02:16:51,858 --> 02:16:53,860
Ma...?
2730
02:16:56,069 --> 02:16:59,797
I'm really gonna make you
proud of me this time, Ma.
2731
02:16:59,797 --> 02:17:03,767
I'm gonna make you real proud of
me this time, Ma.
2732
02:17:03,767 --> 02:17:05,527
We'll get 'em good.
2733
02:17:07,184 --> 02:17:09,807
-Oh, Ike!
2734
02:17:09,807 --> 02:17:12,224
Ike!
2735
02:17:19,541 --> 02:17:25,892
[Rattling]
2736
02:17:25,892 --> 02:17:27,377
♪♪
2737
02:17:27,377 --> 02:17:30,621
[Addley screams]
2738
02:17:30,621 --> 02:17:33,521
[Muffled screaming]
2739
02:17:33,521 --> 02:17:37,732
♪♪
2740
02:17:37,732 --> 02:17:39,734
[Muffled screaming,
blood squirting]
2741
02:17:39,734 --> 02:17:43,669
[Screaming]
2742
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:49,399
♪♪
2743
02:17:49,399 --> 02:17:51,470
[Screams muffled]
2744
02:17:51,470 --> 02:17:57,786
♪♪
2745
02:17:57,786 --> 02:18:04,241
♪♪
2746
02:18:04,241 --> 02:18:06,312
[Screams stop]
2747
02:18:06,312 --> 02:18:14,216
♪♪
2748
02:18:14,216 --> 02:18:18,945
[Muffled screaming]
2749
02:18:18,945 --> 02:18:23,467
♪♪
2750
02:18:23,467 --> 02:18:27,057
[Screams stop]
2751
02:18:27,057 --> 02:18:29,093
-Come on, Abbey, he's dead.
2752
02:18:29,093 --> 02:18:31,095
Let's get him out of here.
2753
02:18:31,095 --> 02:18:40,242
♪♪
2754
02:18:40,242 --> 02:18:49,390
♪♪
2755
02:18:49,390 --> 02:18:53,877
[Screaming]
2756
02:18:53,877 --> 02:18:56,086
[Boards clattering]
2757
02:18:56,086 --> 02:19:01,298
♪♪
2758
02:19:01,298 --> 02:19:03,265
[Ike muttering]
2759
02:19:03,265 --> 02:19:06,993
[Trina gasping, groaning]
2760
02:19:06,993 --> 02:19:09,237
-You killed my brother!
2761
02:19:09,237 --> 02:19:12,585
You killed
my brother!
2762
02:19:12,585 --> 02:19:16,555
You killed my brother!
You killed --
2763
02:19:16,555 --> 02:19:18,384
[Ike screams, Trina choking]
2764
02:19:18,384 --> 02:19:20,386
You killed my brother!
2765
02:19:20,386 --> 02:19:22,906
You -- you killed my him!
2766
02:19:22,906 --> 02:19:24,183
You killed my brother--
2767
02:19:24,183 --> 02:19:27,048
[Ike screaming]
2768
02:19:27,048 --> 02:19:31,293
[Gurgling]
2769
02:19:31,293 --> 02:19:35,815
♪♪
2770
02:19:35,815 --> 02:19:39,267
[Groaning, gasps]
2771
02:19:39,267 --> 02:19:44,583
♪♪
2772
02:19:44,583 --> 02:19:47,517
[Screams]
2773
02:19:47,517 --> 02:19:49,346
[Trina panting]
2774
02:19:49,346 --> 02:19:53,488
[Coughing]
2775
02:19:53,488 --> 02:20:02,842
♪♪
2776
02:20:02,842 --> 02:20:05,604
[Coughing]
2777
02:20:05,604 --> 02:20:08,400
[Screams]
2778
02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:12,438
[Electricity arcing,
Ike screaming]
2779
02:20:12,438 --> 02:20:22,379
♪♪
2780
02:20:22,379 --> 02:20:32,354
♪♪
2781
02:20:32,354 --> 02:20:42,261
♪♪
2782
02:20:42,261 --> 02:20:43,849
-Son of a bitch!
2783
02:20:43,849 --> 02:20:47,956
[Electricity crackling]
2784
02:20:47,956 --> 02:20:49,751
-You wanted him, didn't you?
2785
02:20:58,864 --> 02:21:01,004
♪♪
2786
02:21:01,004 --> 02:21:02,868
[Trina screams]
2787
02:21:02,868 --> 02:21:08,183
♪♪
2788
02:21:08,183 --> 02:21:13,603
♪♪
2789
02:21:13,603 --> 02:21:16,053
[Screams]
2790
02:21:16,053 --> 02:21:23,198
♪♪
2791
02:21:23,198 --> 02:21:30,378
♪♪
2792
02:21:30,378 --> 02:21:37,523
♪♪
2793
02:21:37,523 --> 02:21:40,630
[Electric knife whirring]
2794
02:21:40,630 --> 02:21:50,087
♪♪
2795
02:21:50,087 --> 02:21:59,545
♪♪
2796
02:21:59,545 --> 02:22:01,374
[Knife whirring]
2797
02:22:01,374 --> 02:22:04,516
♪♪
2798
02:22:10,694 --> 02:22:13,904
[Door creaking]
2799
02:22:16,873 --> 02:22:21,291
[Door creaking]
2800
02:22:21,291 --> 02:22:26,676
♪♪
2801
02:22:26,676 --> 02:22:28,125
-Insurance companies said today
2802
02:22:28,125 --> 02:22:31,301
they'll stop writing policies
on high risk drivers
2803
02:22:31,301 --> 02:22:33,717
if the state orders them
to spread out the cost
2804
02:22:33,717 --> 02:22:35,305
to other customers.
2805
02:22:35,305 --> 02:22:37,031
The word came
from Michael McCabe,
2806
02:22:37,031 --> 02:22:38,826
the counsel for
Allstate Insurance,
2807
02:22:38,826 --> 02:22:40,793
he's concerned about a proposal
being studied
2808
02:22:40,793 --> 02:22:42,830
by the state
insurance department
2809
02:22:42,830 --> 02:22:45,487
that would slash premiums in
high risk urban areas
2810
02:22:45,487 --> 02:22:48,249
and among young drivers...
2811
02:22:48,249 --> 02:22:53,875
[Stairs creaking]
2812
02:22:53,875 --> 02:22:58,121
[Reporter continues
indistinctly]
2813
02:22:58,121 --> 02:23:01,745
[Screaming]
2814
02:23:01,745 --> 02:23:05,542
[Mother laughing]
2815
02:23:05,542 --> 02:23:08,994
-Good work, boys!
[Laughing]
2816
02:23:08,994 --> 02:23:11,030
Oh, my God!
[Laughing]
2817
02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:12,894
Aah! Huh?
What is this?!
2818
02:23:12,894 --> 02:23:14,655
No! No! No!
2819
02:23:14,655 --> 02:23:16,139
You let me be!
You let me be!
2820
02:23:16,139 --> 02:23:17,761
I'm a sick w-woman!
2821
02:23:17,761 --> 02:23:19,452
Don't hurt me!
I'm a --
2822
02:23:19,452 --> 02:23:21,627
I am a sick woman!
2823
02:23:21,627 --> 02:23:23,422
Let me go!
Don't hurt me!
2824
02:23:23,422 --> 02:23:25,735
-It's all right! It's all right!
-No! No! I'm a --
2825
02:23:25,735 --> 02:23:28,392
I'm a sick woman!
[Echoes] I'm a sick woman!
2826
02:23:28,392 --> 02:23:29,980
-We'll take care of you.
2827
02:23:29,980 --> 02:23:31,119
-You --
2828
02:23:31,119 --> 02:23:33,570
I'm a sick woman!
2829
02:23:33,570 --> 02:23:35,296
-We'll take care of you.
2830
02:23:35,296 --> 02:23:36,987
-Addley!
2831
02:23:36,987 --> 02:23:41,578
-Sure.
2832
02:23:41,578 --> 02:23:44,754
We'll take care of you.
2833
02:23:44,754 --> 02:23:48,896
Just like we've done
all these years.
2834
02:23:48,896 --> 02:23:50,414
-[Coughs]
Let me go!
2835
02:23:50,414 --> 02:23:53,417
-Don't worry...
2836
02:23:53,417 --> 02:23:56,489
your daughter
will take care of you.
2837
02:23:56,489 --> 02:23:58,802
[Muffled screaming]
2838
02:23:58,802 --> 02:24:01,391
You stay in bed!
2839
02:24:01,391 --> 02:24:03,565
And we'll get your clothes,
2840
02:24:03,565 --> 02:24:06,051
and make your food.
2841
02:24:06,051 --> 02:24:08,985
and take care of everything!
2842
02:24:08,985 --> 02:24:11,850
[Muffled screaming]
2843
02:24:11,850 --> 02:24:13,575
You stay in bed!
2844
02:24:13,575 --> 02:24:17,856
Why?!
Because you're a sick woman!
2845
02:24:17,856 --> 02:24:20,306
I'll take care of you!
2846
02:24:20,306 --> 02:24:24,656
And you'll never have to worry
about anything ever again!
2847
02:24:24,656 --> 02:24:29,039
♪♪
2848
02:24:29,039 --> 02:24:31,973
[Voice echoing]
2849
02:24:31,973 --> 02:24:34,666
[Gasping]
2850
02:24:34,666 --> 02:24:38,911
♪♪
2851
02:24:38,911 --> 02:24:41,707
-Do you hear me?!
2852
02:24:41,707 --> 02:24:43,813
Do you
hear me?!
2853
02:24:43,813 --> 02:24:46,125
Do you hear me?!
2854
02:24:46,125 --> 02:24:50,371
[Screams]
2855
02:24:50,371 --> 02:24:54,478
♪♪
2856
02:24:54,478 --> 02:24:57,585
[Wailing]
2857
02:24:57,585 --> 02:25:05,110
♪♪
2858
02:25:05,110 --> 02:25:12,565
♪♪
2859
02:25:12,565 --> 02:25:16,224
It just doesn't seem fair.
2860
02:25:16,224 --> 02:25:18,744
-There's a reason we survived.
2861
02:25:18,744 --> 02:25:22,161
You just have to believe
that much.
2862
02:25:22,161 --> 02:25:24,439
-What do you mean?
2863
02:25:24,439 --> 02:25:27,132
♪♪
2864
02:25:27,132 --> 02:25:29,410
-We were meant to survive,
2865
02:25:29,410 --> 02:25:32,102
we were strong, both of us.
2866
02:25:32,102 --> 02:25:34,242
And don't ever forget it.
2867
02:25:34,242 --> 02:25:35,761
♪♪
2868
02:25:35,761 --> 02:25:38,730
[Growling, snarling]
2869
02:25:38,730 --> 02:25:47,808
[Screaming]
2870
02:25:47,808 --> 02:25:50,983
♪♪
2871
02:25:53,261 --> 02:25:57,058
♪♪
2872
02:25:57,058 --> 02:26:00,821
♪♪
2873
02:26:00,821 --> 02:26:04,583
♪♪
2874
02:26:04,583 --> 02:26:08,311
♪♪
2875
02:26:08,311 --> 02:26:12,108
♪♪
2876
02:26:12,108 --> 02:26:15,870
♪♪
2877
02:26:15,870 --> 02:26:19,598
♪♪
2878
02:26:19,598 --> 02:26:23,360
♪♪
2879
02:26:23,360 --> 02:26:27,157
♪♪
2880
02:26:27,157 --> 02:26:30,851
♪♪
2881
02:26:30,851 --> 02:26:34,613
♪♪
2882
02:26:34,613 --> 02:26:38,341
♪♪
2883
02:26:38,341 --> 02:26:42,138
♪♪
2884
02:26:42,138 --> 02:26:45,900
♪♪
2885
02:26:45,900 --> 02:26:49,628
♪♪
2886
02:26:49,628 --> 02:26:53,390
♪♪
2887
02:26:53,390 --> 02:26:57,187
♪♪
2888
02:26:57,187 --> 02:27:00,984
♪♪
2889
02:27:00,984 --> 02:27:04,712
♪♪
2890
02:27:04,712 --> 02:27:08,440
♪♪
2891
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:12,237
♪♪
2892
02:27:12,237 --> 02:27:15,999
♪♪
2893
02:27:15,999 --> 02:27:19,727
♪♪
2894
02:27:19,727 --> 02:27:23,489
♪♪
2895
02:27:23,489 --> 02:27:27,252
♪♪
2896
02:27:27,252 --> 02:27:31,014
♪♪
2897
02:27:31,014 --> 02:27:34,776
♪♪
2898
02:27:34,776 --> 02:27:38,470
♪♪
2899
02:27:38,470 --> 02:27:42,267
♪♪
2900
02:27:42,267 --> 02:27:46,029
♪♪
2901
02:27:46,029 --> 02:27:50,758
♪♪
2902
02:27:50,758 --> 02:27:53,554
[Static]
2903
02:27:53,554 --> 02:27:55,936
-Shocking ending to
"Mother's Day."
2904
02:27:55,936 --> 02:27:58,662
I love that extra ending,
where Queenie,
2905
02:27:58,662 --> 02:27:59,940
which just might be a version
2906
02:27:59,940 --> 02:28:01,838
of New Jersey's
most famous monster,
2907
02:28:01,838 --> 02:28:05,807
the Jersey Devil, leaps out
of the woods and freeze frames.
2908
02:28:05,807 --> 02:28:08,603
Sadly, there was
no "Mother's Day 2."
2909
02:28:08,603 --> 02:28:11,054
Okay, I have to admit,
before I saw this movie,
2910
02:28:11,054 --> 02:28:15,162
I was unaware of the existence
of giant blow-up party boobs.
2911
02:28:15,162 --> 02:28:17,474
And shame on me
for not knowing about that,
2912
02:28:17,474 --> 02:28:20,201
but it took Charles Kaufman
to envision
2913
02:28:20,201 --> 02:28:23,515
giant blow-up party boobs
as a weapon of death.
2914
02:28:23,515 --> 02:28:27,312
My question is, what's the
original use of those things?
2915
02:28:27,312 --> 02:28:29,245
Is that a sex toy?
2916
02:28:29,245 --> 02:28:31,868
Is it a pool toy?
2917
02:28:31,868 --> 02:28:34,422
After searching for them
on several Web sites
2918
02:28:34,422 --> 02:28:37,874
and finding out that indeed
they are widely available,
2919
02:28:37,874 --> 02:28:40,773
and very reasonably priced,
ranging from, I don't know,
2920
02:28:40,773 --> 02:28:43,362
three bucks to 15 bucks
for those things,
2921
02:28:43,362 --> 02:28:45,330
I'm convinced that
they're basically used
2922
02:28:45,330 --> 02:28:46,710
for amateur theatricals,
2923
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:50,680
like when you need something
extra silly for a party,
2924
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:53,959
mostly purchased
and worn by men, of course.
2925
02:28:53,959 --> 02:28:58,274
Anyhow, I think each backwoods
brother gets killed three times.
2926
02:28:58,274 --> 02:29:01,760
Addley gets a spike
through the back of the head,
2927
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:06,558
a claw hammer to the groin,
suffocated by being sat on,
2928
02:29:06,558 --> 02:29:09,250
Ike gets a can of Drano
dumped into his mouth,
2929
02:29:09,250 --> 02:29:12,150
an entire TV set
jammed on to his head,
2930
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:14,462
and an electric turkey carver
all over his body.
2931
02:29:14,462 --> 02:29:16,844
Very satisfying --
more satisfying,
2932
02:29:16,844 --> 02:29:18,225
I would endeavor to say,
2933
02:29:18,225 --> 02:29:20,227
than the inflatable breast
smothering,
2934
02:29:20,227 --> 02:29:21,953
which, yeah, I get it.
2935
02:29:21,953 --> 02:29:24,748
She's being killed by the symbol
of smothering motherhood
2936
02:29:24,748 --> 02:29:26,267
that she herself represents.
2937
02:29:26,267 --> 02:29:27,751
We'll talk to Eli about that
2938
02:29:27,751 --> 02:29:29,891
when he comes out here
for our next movie.
2939
02:29:29,891 --> 02:29:32,618
And we're going to mix it up a
little bit with that next movie.
2940
02:29:32,618 --> 02:29:35,794
I have some strong opinions
about that movie,
2941
02:29:35,794 --> 02:29:37,313
and so does Eli,
2942
02:29:37,313 --> 02:29:40,040
but I think we're probably
on opposite sides of the fence.
2943
02:29:40,040 --> 02:29:42,421
So I thought
that might be interesting.
2944
02:29:42,421 --> 02:29:45,355
-Darcy, come on over.
Oh, wow!
2945
02:29:45,355 --> 02:29:48,255
You got the --
you did the cover.
2946
02:29:48,255 --> 02:29:51,292
You did the famous cover
version of "Mother's Day."
2947
02:29:51,292 --> 02:29:54,088
-I brought you a present.
-Oh, thank you so much, Darcy,
2948
02:29:54,088 --> 02:29:55,538
that's -- Darcy, you are --
2949
02:29:55,538 --> 02:29:57,160
you like "Mother's Day," right?
2950
02:29:57,160 --> 02:29:58,541
-I do, I love this movie.
2951
02:29:58,541 --> 02:30:01,026
And it has male
full frontal nudity in it.
2952
02:30:01,026 --> 02:30:03,580
So you're always on a soapbox
about nudity, you love that.
2953
02:30:03,580 --> 02:30:06,859
-Yes! There needs to be a lot
more male nudity in films.
2954
02:30:06,859 --> 02:30:08,413
-I should have put that
in the Drive In Totals --
2955
02:30:08,413 --> 02:30:09,690
two buttocks.
2956
02:30:09,690 --> 02:30:11,347
We rarely have buttocks
in the movie,
2957
02:30:11,347 --> 02:30:13,452
but now what about the remake?
2958
02:30:13,452 --> 02:30:17,870
You always love the remakes.
2959
02:30:17,870 --> 02:30:19,079
-Mm, not in this case.
It's pretty bland. -Yeah.
2960
02:30:19,079 --> 02:30:21,564
In the flashback scene
2961
02:30:21,564 --> 02:30:23,255
with The Dobber
2962
02:30:23,255 --> 02:30:25,775
in the baseball stadium,
2963
02:30:25,775 --> 02:30:28,226
do you know what song
that was, that they used?
2964
02:30:28,226 --> 02:30:31,091
-Unh-uh.
-It's "I Think We're Alone Now"
2965
02:30:31,091 --> 02:30:32,816
by Tommy James
and The Shondells,
2966
02:30:32,816 --> 02:30:36,337
great bubblegum -- bubblegum
band from Michigan.
2967
02:30:36,337 --> 02:30:37,994
You know, Tommy James
and The Shondells?
2968
02:30:37,994 --> 02:30:40,962
-I think I know
the Tiffany version.
2969
02:30:40,962 --> 02:30:42,550
-Tiffany version?
2970
02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:44,552
Tiffany sang,
"I Think We're Alone Now"?
2971
02:30:44,552 --> 02:30:46,037
-♪ I think we're along now ♪
Yeah.
2972
02:30:46,037 --> 02:30:48,108
-Oh, yeah, okay, well,
the great Tiffany song,
2973
02:30:48,108 --> 02:30:49,626
"I Think We're Alone Now."
2974
02:30:49,626 --> 02:30:51,697
You don't know Tommy James
and The Shondells,
2975
02:30:51,697 --> 02:30:56,357
"Crystal Blue Persuasion,"
"Crimson and Clover."
2976
02:30:56,357 --> 02:30:58,532
Come on,
Tommy James was the lead singer
2977
02:30:58,532 --> 02:31:01,224
and they were six Shondells,
you know, I mean, over the years
2978
02:31:01,224 --> 02:31:03,399
there have been about
197 Shondells,
2979
02:31:03,399 --> 02:31:06,298
but originally six Shondells
along with Tommy.
2980
02:31:06,298 --> 02:31:09,888
But my point is, I don't know
how the Kaufman family
2981
02:31:09,888 --> 02:31:11,821
afforded licensing that song,
2982
02:31:11,821 --> 02:31:15,204
'cause "I Think We're Alone Now"
was a number one hit,
2983
02:31:15,204 --> 02:31:17,413
especially for a throwaway
flashback scene
2984
02:31:17,413 --> 02:31:19,139
in the middle of the movie.
2985
02:31:19,139 --> 02:31:21,762
-That's -- that's fascinating.
[Laughter]
2986
02:31:21,762 --> 02:31:23,936
-All right.
It's not Weezer.
2987
02:31:23,936 --> 02:31:26,732
-No, it is not.
-Okay, well, I have to say
2988
02:31:26,732 --> 02:31:30,874
that what you did last year
with the Silver Bolo Award
2989
02:31:30,874 --> 02:31:33,636
was truly amazing,
and thank you for that.
2990
02:31:33,636 --> 02:31:36,535
People were putting up pictures
of their Silver Bolo
2991
02:31:36,535 --> 02:31:38,019
all over the Internet.
2992
02:31:38,019 --> 02:31:40,850
And so we're starting off
with that again, right?
2993
02:31:40,850 --> 02:31:42,403
Yeah.
-Heck yeah.
2994
02:31:42,403 --> 02:31:44,819
-We're going to continue to
honor excellence in horror media
2995
02:31:44,819 --> 02:31:46,269
wherever we find it.
2996
02:31:46,269 --> 02:31:49,341
And so where did we find it
this first week?
2997
02:31:49,341 --> 02:31:52,724
-All right. Well, we found it
in an animated Web series
2998
02:31:52,724 --> 02:31:54,622
called "Screaming Soup."
2999
02:31:54,622 --> 02:31:56,072
-I've heard of
"Screaming Soup."
3000
02:31:56,072 --> 02:31:57,384
-The host of
"Screaming Soup"
3001
02:31:57,384 --> 02:32:00,041
is a skeleton cowboy who reviews
horror films,
3002
02:32:00,041 --> 02:32:02,872
and he' backed up by a cast of
animated monsters,
3003
02:32:02,872 --> 02:32:05,461
weirdos and creepy things.
3004
02:32:05,461 --> 02:32:09,361
Their motto is, "We scrutinize,
bastardize and idolize
3005
02:32:09,361 --> 02:32:11,191
the horror genre
with our review."
3006
02:32:11,191 --> 02:32:15,126
-So it's real horror hosting,
but it's in an animated format.
3007
02:32:15,126 --> 02:32:17,473
Is it good animation?
-It's great animation.
3008
02:32:17,473 --> 02:32:19,233
-Okay.
-It's halfway between
3009
02:32:19,233 --> 02:32:22,271
a Saturday morning cartoon
and what we do on this show.
3010
02:32:22,271 --> 02:32:24,065
-Who is the -- in real life,
3011
02:32:24,065 --> 02:32:27,241
who is the skeleton cowboy
host of "Screaming Soup"?
3012
02:32:27,241 --> 02:32:31,901
-Dan Fowler of, I believe,
Greenville, South Carolina.
3013
02:32:31,901 --> 02:32:33,765
-Oh, no, no, no.
-Oh, yeah.
3014
02:32:33,765 --> 02:32:35,663
-No, no, no.
You did not do that.
3015
02:32:35,663 --> 02:32:37,251
-Yes, I did.
3016
02:32:37,251 --> 02:32:40,081
-We're rewarding people
for being from South Carolina
3017
02:32:40,081 --> 02:32:42,118
and not -- not -- not
just South Carolina;
3018
02:32:42,118 --> 02:32:44,189
Greenville, South Carolina,
you know,
3019
02:32:44,189 --> 02:32:45,639
where our director is from.
3020
02:32:45,639 --> 02:32:47,917
Austin is from Greenville,
South Carolina.
3021
02:32:47,917 --> 02:32:53,025
Anyway, so you agree with this
nepotism that we're doing here?
3022
02:32:53,025 --> 02:32:55,235
-It's not nepotism,
they earned it.
3023
02:32:55,235 --> 02:32:57,098
It's an amazing Web series.
3024
02:32:57,098 --> 02:32:59,618
-All right.
Well, I just and you,
3025
02:32:59,618 --> 02:33:00,757
and, um, Yuki,
3026
02:33:00,757 --> 02:33:05,141
I want you to take
this silver bolo tie
3027
02:33:05,141 --> 02:33:09,525
and make sure that it gets
to Dan Fowler in South Carolina.
3028
02:33:09,525 --> 02:33:13,529
And, uh, okay.
3029
02:33:13,529 --> 02:33:16,842
Okay, how'd you like Eli Roth?
3030
02:33:16,842 --> 02:33:18,361
-I love Eli Roth.
-You know,
3031
02:33:18,361 --> 02:33:20,294
this is the first time
we've had a guest stay
3032
02:33:20,294 --> 02:33:23,159
for two movies on this show.
-Oh, my God, it is!
3033
02:33:23,159 --> 02:33:25,299
We should bring it back
as much as we can.
3034
02:33:25,299 --> 02:33:26,887
-What's your favorite
Eli Roth movie?
3035
02:33:26,887 --> 02:33:28,268
-"Hostel"!
I love "Hostel"
3036
02:33:28,268 --> 02:33:29,579
and I wish you're showing it.
3037
02:33:29,579 --> 02:33:31,754
-Okay, well, you know,
he also works
3038
02:33:31,754 --> 02:33:34,205
for the big network.
3039
02:33:34,205 --> 02:33:36,552
You know, the upstairs guys.
3040
02:33:36,552 --> 02:33:38,278
If you go to
the headquarters of AMC,
3041
02:33:38,278 --> 02:33:40,659
which is in one of those
giant skyscrapers
3042
02:33:40,659 --> 02:33:43,075
next to Penn Station
in New York City,
3043
02:33:43,075 --> 02:33:45,768
you know, and sit there waiting
on your appointment,
3044
02:33:45,768 --> 02:33:48,667
you know...
[Both laugh]
3045
02:33:48,667 --> 02:33:50,773
In the lobby,
3046
02:33:50,773 --> 02:33:53,500
they have these
giant display cases
3047
02:33:53,500 --> 02:33:55,226
and a bunch
of sculptures and things.
3048
02:33:55,226 --> 02:33:57,089
And they have a big mural,
3049
02:33:57,089 --> 02:33:59,644
and it has logos
of all the stuff
3050
02:33:59,644 --> 02:34:03,613
that AMC owns
all around the world.
3051
02:34:03,613 --> 02:34:05,788
And Shudder is like...
3052
02:34:05,788 --> 02:34:07,755
"We're one of the logos."
3053
02:34:07,755 --> 02:34:10,413
-Maybe we should give them
a Silver Bolo.
3054
02:34:10,413 --> 02:34:12,243
-Why would we give them
a Silver Bolo?
3055
02:34:12,243 --> 02:34:14,624
-So then we could be
in that bigshot display case.
3056
02:34:14,624 --> 02:34:17,109
-Oh, right. Yeah, yeah.
They're going to put
3057
02:34:17,109 --> 02:34:19,974
the Silver Bolo right next to
the Emmy for "Mad Men,"
3058
02:34:19,974 --> 02:34:22,425
or the Emmy for "Breaking Bad"
or "Walking Dead."
3059
02:34:22,425 --> 02:34:23,875
Yeah, they're gon--
-Why not?
3060
02:34:23,875 --> 02:34:26,222
-Well, they're not going to
do that!
3061
02:34:26,222 --> 02:34:28,604
An Emmy weighs,
like, 12 pounds.
3062
02:34:28,604 --> 02:34:32,090
-But is it genuine silver?
3063
02:34:32,090 --> 02:34:34,644
-Actually, I don't think --
I think it's g--
3064
02:34:34,644 --> 02:34:38,027
it's gold color, but I don't
think it's real gold.
3065
02:34:38,027 --> 02:34:39,477
-See?
-I can make it gold.
3066
02:34:39,477 --> 02:34:42,997
[Shaking spray paint can]
3067
02:34:42,997 --> 02:34:44,205
-Okay, Yuki!.
3068
02:34:44,205 --> 02:34:46,380
All right.
We'll call on you, Yuki.
3069
02:34:46,380 --> 02:34:48,589
All right, that's enough --
congratulations to
3070
02:34:48,589 --> 02:34:51,143
"Screaming Soup"
and Dan Fowler,
3071
02:34:51,143 --> 02:34:53,594
and this is Joe Bob Briggs
reminding you
3072
02:34:53,594 --> 02:34:56,770
to always keep skunks
and bankers at a distance.
3073
02:34:56,770 --> 02:34:58,806
The drive-in will never die.
3074
02:34:58,806 --> 02:35:01,878
You know the difference between
a golf ball and a G-spot.
3075
02:35:01,878 --> 02:35:04,847
-Hmm.
-Come on, humor me.
3076
02:35:04,847 --> 02:35:06,400
-Okay, what is the difference
3077
02:35:06,400 --> 02:35:08,402
between a golf ball
and a G-spot?
3078
02:35:08,402 --> 02:35:12,993
-A man will spend half an hour
looking for a golf ball.
3079
02:35:12,993 --> 02:35:14,822
-I'm taking my present back.
3080
02:35:14,822 --> 02:35:16,721
[Laughter]
3081
02:35:16,721 --> 02:35:21,242
♪♪
3082
02:35:21,242 --> 02:35:24,211
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warbling, static]
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