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NARRATOR: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.
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Is Mount Shasta
a source of energy
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contributing to the experience
that people are having, or is it
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something much more sinister?
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MAN: Bringing her up.
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Oh, well, look at that.
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Wow, look at that.
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- Totally different.
- There we go.
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There we go.
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So Mount Shasta has kind
of a long history of people
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that have gone missing.
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You're talking about
people just vanishing,
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like without a trace.
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That's right.
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WOMAN: See those orbs?
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This is the light shows
that happen every night.
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NARRATOR: For years,
scientists have
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been working to reveal the
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible
that the clues
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to unlock the
mystery are located
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beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?
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Wow.
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NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA
agent and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high stakes
mission across America.
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Look at all this
activity that's happening.
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PAUL: That's unbelievable.
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ANDY: That is right
over our heads.
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That's it, that's
it, right there!
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NARRATOR: The goal--
uncover evidence that
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may finally expose the truth.
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MAN 1: How is this happening?
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MAN 2: Now it's going
to get interesting.
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MAN 3: Look, it's moving!
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Look at that!
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MAN 4: This is
just the beginning.
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Well, it's great to
be back with you guys.
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As we saw in the past,
some exciting things
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happened at Mount Shasta.
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To have so much evidence.
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You know, so many
unique findings.
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The question that we left
Mount Shasta with last time
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was, why?
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Why are we seeing
what we're seeing?
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What's driving the energy flow
coming to and from the mountain?
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What helps to explain
the incredible anomalies
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that are there, really?
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And it makes me
wonder whether or not
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we're dealing with
a situation where
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energy might be going somewhere,
might be disappearing.
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NARRATOR: In their previous
visit to Mount Shasta,
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Andy and Paul investigated
this hotspot of strange energy
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that draws people
from around the world.
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WOMAN: OK, totally
disorients here.
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Look at that.
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It's telling me
north is that way.
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North is this way.
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NARRATOR: While investigating
at the mountain,
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the team recorded
anomalous radio
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frequencies that corresponded
with multiple UAPs.
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Look at this.
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What is that?
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At 1.71 gigahertz.
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Oh, here's something right here.
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Darted straight across.
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ANDY: What is that?
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NARRATOR: When they went 16
stories down into the mountain
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system, they detected strange
radio frequency spikes that
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shouldn't be present in a cave.
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It seems like
as we climb higher
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into these more
privileged zones,
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you see more of
these energy bursts.
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I can't, for the
life of me, figure
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out how you get a microwave
signal down inside a cave.
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Why are we getting 1.6 gigahertz
signals inside this cave
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at Mount Shasta?
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Makes no sense to me.
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What there isn't right now
is any kind of evidence that's
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measurable in nature that shows
the energetics of the mountain
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itself.
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What we're hoping
to do is find a way
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that we can actually
answer that question in
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a measurable, scientific way.
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Is Mount Shasta special?
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Is it different?
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Does it contain energy?
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Does it retain energy?
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Does it transmit energy?
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And whether or not there is
something that we can measure
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that helps to define whether
or not the phenomenon
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there has some sort of
malevolent intent or benevolent
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intent, if intent at all.
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If there is something
uniquely energetic going on
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at Mount Shasta, you
know, I want to trace
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that energy to its source.
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You know, I really think that
is our ultimate objective.
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The holy grail here is finding
out its root cause analysis.
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You cited several
energetic effects
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during the course of the
work that you've done so far.
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I want to continue
along that line.
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Even if it turns
out that we can't
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put our finger on a
causation, what we do know
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is that there is an effect.
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Yeah.
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People are going
there for some reason.
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Well, if your first
investigation of Mount Shasta
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is any indication as to what can
hopefully be seen in the future
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and what you may yet
find out, I think we have
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some exciting results in store.
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We'll try to move the
ball further down the field.
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PAUL: Yeah, further
up the mountain.
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All right.
That's what it's all about.
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Can't wait to
see what you get.
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All right.
Thanks, guys.
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MAN: Good luck, man.
PAUL: Thank you.
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I'll tell you what, man.
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I am really excited to be
going back to Mount Shasta.
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Our first time here, we were
really just looking to see,
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can we measure the energy?
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Can we quantify the energy?
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Can we put data
behind the stories?
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We put a ton of data
behind the stories.
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Now we know exactly
what we want to do.
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We want to push this mountain
as far as we can push it.
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Right now, we want to provoke
this beast as much as we can.
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There's such an established
culture here that the mountain
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is somehow positive.
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Right, like it's a
benefactor of some sort.
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But the data that we collected
in our first investigation
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could potentially point at
something much more sinister.
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Is the mountain really a source
of energy that's contributing
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to the experience that
people are having, or is it
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somehow like a
sink that's taking
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energy away from the people--
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Absorbing it.
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You know, I'm really
looking forward to meeting
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up with Sheriff LaRue again.
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I mean, he was such a
great resource last time.
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NARRATOR: In their
previous visit,
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Paul met with Sheriff Jeremiah
LaRue to hear about some
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of the anomalies
documented at Mount Shasta.
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This mountain puts
out a lot of energy.
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It drives a lot of
people to this area.
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And then we, of course,
have the aerial phenomena
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that is unique to the area.
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NARRATOR: Now, he has
some more recent reports
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to share with Andy and Paul.
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SHERIFF JEREMIAH: Yeah,
thanks for coming back.
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PAUL: Absolutely.
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So Mount Shasta has kind
of a long history of people
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that have gone missing.
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And--
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Like completely disappearing?
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Yes.
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So we do get a lot of
missing people in the area.
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People that go, you know,
backpacking or hiking.
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But we usually find them.
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You know, we go out
and look for them.
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But there's always a
handful that we don't find.
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You're talking about
people just vanishing,
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like without a trace.
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That's right.
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So what about the stories that
you get back from the people
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who you do recover?
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What leads to their absence,
their disappearance?
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Do they have any
experiences that are
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relevant to our investigation?
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So people have reported
being disoriented.
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Just not feeling themselves,
feeling nauseated.
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But feeling drawn in
a certain direction.
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Sometimes people are going
to be affected by altitude.
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But you're talking
about something else.
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Like, people are reporting
some kind of energy presence,
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it sounds like.
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Even not at high altitudes,
they just feel a sense
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that they're not feeling well.
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And they feel pulled
in a certain direction.
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There's maybe
more to the story
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of the energy of
Mount Shasta than, you
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know, previously believed.
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What we're seeing is
high levels of energy.
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But we don't know whether the
source of energy is underground,
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or whether the underground
location is drawing
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energy from the surface.
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So since you were
last here, we've had
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a lot of additional reports.
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Primarily in the McCloud area.
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It's about 10, 15
miles from here.
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And it's just to the east.
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And one of the hot spots
is the Healing Place.
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Great view of Mount
Shasta, and people
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report similar things that what
you experienced the last time
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you were here.
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Orbs in the sky or seeing, you
know, just different aircraft
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or maybe even possibly UAP.
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Did people actually
file reports?
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Is that what you got?
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Yeah, I actually
have one right here
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I can kind of discuss with you.
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And it describes a fireball
coming down out of the sky.
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Can I take this?
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Absolutely.
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Go ahead and look at it.
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ANDY: "UFO protocol
has been initiated.
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Beale Airforce Base has it
on their radar, but is not
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at liberty to say what it is."
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Wait, what?
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It sounds like we should
head out to McCloud.
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Yeah.
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Is it possible for us to get
onto the grounds of the healing
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place that you mentioned?
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Yes, absolutely.
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Great, OK.
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Thank you, Sheriff.
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SHERIFF JEREMIAH:
Thanks for stopping by.
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PAUL: Well, we've got
our work cut out for us.
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ANDY: Yeah.
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NARRATOR: The Healing Place is a
nature retreat located 10 miles
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southeast of Mount Shasta.
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Jamie Mayfield is
the owner and has
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experienced multiple strange
incidents on the property.
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It's pretty crazy, huh?
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You wake up to that every day.
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Every day.
It's--
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Amazing.
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--gorgeous.
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It's like a painting.
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It is.
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PAUL: Incredible.
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So tell us about this place.
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How did you end up here?
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2018, I came here to
look at vacation rental.
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I looked at the
mountain, and I said,
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take me where I need to be.
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And this property was listed
the day that I came up.
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People talk about
feeling drawn to be here.
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You know, it sounds
like you always
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knew that you were coming here.
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It felt like that.
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Jamie, have you had
personal experiences here?
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Yes.
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I was in bed and couldn't sleep.
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And I get up, and I go
off outside on the deck.
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And I saw an orange ship
hovering right over those trees.
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So I go inside, and I lay down.
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And I have my face turned
towards the window.
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And I see this white
orb come right in.
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And it's about this big.
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And then all of a
sudden, I got paralyzed.
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Was there a trigger?
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Was it--
- Hum.
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I hear it.
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A hum?
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Yeah, I hear a hum.
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Hums, paralysis.
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I mean, we've heard
this stuff before.
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I was going to say,
these are things that are--
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while your experience is
really intense, that we
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have heard and seen elsewhere.
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We have infrared cameras
set up all around this house.
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Running every night.
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Do you have
recordings of those?
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Of course, I'll
show them to you.
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OK, great.
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This is off of this deck.
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See those orbs?
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This is the light shows
that happen every night.
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ANDY: If these are insects,
we see no wing activity.
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PAUL: No.
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And this-- you're
going to trip out.
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PAUL: That's snow, right?
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No.
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This is August 23rd.
- Whoa.
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ANDY: Look at that.
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JAMIE: All of my cameras.
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PAUL: What is that?
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Every single one of these
cameras all night long did this.
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It's the craziest thing.
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Now I've seen it four
times since then.
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PAUL: What is that, Andy?
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What do you think that is?
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I have no idea.
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It's so concentrated.
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It's so intense.
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PAUL: It can't be dust.
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No, it wouldn't be focused.
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It wouldn't have
that kind of signature.
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And then this was
just like a whiteout.
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So this one's pretty faint.
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But I have a bigger
picture that I blew up.
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Right there.
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PAUL: Whoa.
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Look at that baby.
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Look, you can see the
body and everything.
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PAUL: It's like it's looking--
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JAMIE: It's not
so warm and fuzzy.
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No.
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It sounds like a
number of the sightings
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that you've had have been
towards the mountain.
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Which is consistent with what
we've seen before here as well.
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So we need some way
of seeing in the dark.
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Light enhancement and
thermal will let us do that.
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If there's a way to
instigate a response--
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We're going to try it.
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Jamie, I know you
hold gatherings here
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at the Healing Place,
but I bet you've never
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seen anything quite like this.
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NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are
with experiencer Jamie Mayfield
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at her nature retreat,
the Healing Place,
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in the foothills of Mount
Shasta, where they're setting
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up for their first experiment.
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So Jamie, just a really
quick walkthrough of what we
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have here as we're checking in.
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This is a spectrum
analyzer that we're
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using to listen in to the
radio frequency signals,
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the radio energy around us.
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Here, we have our two UFODAPs.
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The UFODAPs are really unique.
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You can actually see
the displays out there.
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What they are is an AI
powered camera that are really
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going to be eyes on the sky.
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They're going to
pick up anything
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unusual that's not a plane,
that's not a satellite.
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And really instantly analyze
it against a huge library
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of information.
- Great.
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Yeah.
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They're very cool.
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And then in real
time, we'll be
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tracking satellite
movement around the earth,
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specifically around us.
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And FAA flight data.
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That's also around us.
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So between the UFODAPs and these
two pieces of equipment here,
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we'll be able to
track in real time
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anything we might see and rule
out if it's something manmade.
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Definitely.
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And then the last two
cameras that we have here
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are thermal imaging cameras.
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So you are using
infrared at your house.
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And the infrared you're
using enhances light.
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The infrared that
we're using here
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actually tracks thermal energy
instead of light energy.
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Now, on the table over here, we
have our team from Nu-Salt. Now,
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you guys were at Skinwalker
Ranch recently, too, right?
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Yeah.
Yeah, we were.
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NARRATOR: Joining
the team tonight
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are laser experts Tim Anderson
and Jeremy Fenton from Nu-Salt
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Laser, who've conducted
several experiments
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at Skinwalker Ranch in an
effort to stimulate anomalies.
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TIM: Holy cow.
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Look at that.
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NARRATOR: That resulted
in a correlating
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UAP sighting in 2021.
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- You see this.
- Yeah.
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What the crap is that?
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MAN: Unbelievable.
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NARRATOR: Now,
Andy and Paul want
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to see what will
happen when they
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shine lasers in the
direction of Mount
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Shasta from Jamie's property.
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Now, how many projectors
do we have here?
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We have two 40-watt
laser light show
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projectors and we
have two 100-watt
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laser light show projectors.
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NARRATOR: In this
experiment, the lasers
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will scan toward Mount
Shasta in a linear pattern.
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By adding light energy
to the environment,
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the hope is to
stimulate UAP activity.
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Or the beams could detect
other aerial phenomena
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if they bend or disappear while
refracting off the anomaly.
371
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How's everything going, Tim?
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Well, we're having some
connection problems right now,
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so we're trying to
connect the computer
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to the laser projectors.
375
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Is this something the kind
of problem you've had before,
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or is it--
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No, it's not very common.
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PAUL: Huh.
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In fact, all these lasers
were working in the shop
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when we tested them yesterday.
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This is weird, right?
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This is very weird.
383
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But we're going to stay
at it, and I'll let you
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know if we have some changes.
- OK.
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Yeah, OK.
386
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Thanks.
387
00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,667
Nu-Salt Laser is a team
of proven professionals.
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I mean, these guys have taken
their equipment to Skinwalker
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Ranch and had it work in
incredibly difficult conditions
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on a very unpredictable ranch.
391
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But somehow, Mount
Shasta seems to be
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getting the better of them.
393
00:14:04,208 --> 00:14:06,917
Well, let's start getting
some baseline readings here.
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So I want to check the spectrum.
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All right, rounding
up on 1.4 gigahertz,
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where we're starting to
get into privileged bands.
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The team is monitoring the
privileged 1.4 to 1.8 gigahertz
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radio frequencies-- a
range that often coincides
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with strange anomalies.
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00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:27,292
Ooh.
401
00:14:27,375 --> 00:14:27,875
What's all that?
402
00:14:27,958 --> 00:14:29,000
PAUL: Wow.
403
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That's different, for sure.
404
00:14:31,167 --> 00:14:33,625
See if we can zoom in
on this a little bit.
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Significant.
406
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ANDY: Do you know what
this reminds me of,
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is what Travis and
Eric were telling us
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about with a comb pattern
on the radio spectrum.
409
00:14:43,125 --> 00:14:44,833
You can see the energy
swells happening, too.
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00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:47,583
You see that on the left?
411
00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:48,583
Whoa!
You see that?
412
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Look at that.
413
00:14:49,542 --> 00:14:50,708
Look at that.
414
00:14:50,833 --> 00:14:52,667
ANDY: That is strange.
415
00:14:52,708 --> 00:14:53,625
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
416
00:14:53,708 --> 00:14:54,458
Look at this, Paul.
417
00:14:54,542 --> 00:14:55,875
Look at this, Paul.
418
00:14:55,958 --> 00:14:59,125
Look at what happens
right at 1.6 gigahertz.
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00:14:59,208 --> 00:15:01,000
What could cause that?
420
00:15:01,125 --> 00:15:03,042
I've never seen
anything like that.
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ANDY: The energy seems to
change right at 1.6 gigahertz.
422
00:15:08,542 --> 00:15:10,500
I'm going to keep going
up and see what we see.
423
00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:17,083
PAUL: What's that
massive spike there?
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ANDY: I don't know.
425
00:15:19,167 --> 00:15:21,583
Let's tune into this one and see
if we can't make sense of it.
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[crackling]
427
00:15:29,083 --> 00:15:30,542
We've never heard
that sound before.
428
00:15:33,208 --> 00:15:34,042
Yes.
429
00:15:34,125 --> 00:15:37,833
I don't know what this is, Paul.
430
00:15:37,917 --> 00:15:40,917
That kind of transmission
is not like anything
431
00:15:40,917 --> 00:15:42,042
I've ever heard before.
432
00:15:42,125 --> 00:15:45,667
What that is, it's beyond me.
433
00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:48,042
Boys, we're seeing all sorts
of strange stuff on our side.
434
00:15:48,167 --> 00:15:49,667
How are things looking for you?
435
00:15:49,708 --> 00:15:52,333
So right now, I'm reloading
the software completely.
436
00:15:52,417 --> 00:15:54,875
A fresh version, and
to see if that will
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connect with the projectors.
438
00:15:56,375 --> 00:15:58,417
Have you seen a
failure like this before?
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Nowhere.
440
00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:01,000
Yeah, this is a first for me.
441
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Usually they work perfectly.
442
00:16:03,542 --> 00:16:05,208
And they're not.
443
00:16:05,292 --> 00:16:08,042
Let me take us up above 1.7
gigahertz and see what happens.
444
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,292
Here's another strange signal.
445
00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:17,625
Let's see if we can
zoom in on this guy.
446
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1.745.
447
00:16:19,667 --> 00:16:22,583
[electronic whirring]
448
00:16:22,667 --> 00:16:24,167
PAUL: That sound like to you?
449
00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:27,250
I've never heard
anything like that.
450
00:16:27,375 --> 00:16:32,167
There's a short period
cycling in there.
451
00:16:32,250 --> 00:16:35,042
[mocks electronic sounds]
452
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And then there's a
clicking sound in the back.
453
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Let see if can get us closer to
the main center of this sound.
454
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It gets more
intense, as you say,
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as we focus in on the main peak.
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And then it starts to die out as
we get into the larger waveform.
457
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NARRATOR: Andy
and Paul have just
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discovered energy signals
on the spectrum analyzer
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in multiple frequency zones.
460
00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:08,792
And each signal looks
and sounds different,
461
00:17:08,875 --> 00:17:12,958
which indicates that they're
coming from separate sources.
462
00:17:13,042 --> 00:17:15,292
There's something
generating intense energy
463
00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:17,250
in the entire Shasta region.
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00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:23,583
Oh.
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00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,292
Look at this, look at this.
466
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Do you see the rhythm,
the pattern of it?
467
00:17:27,542 --> 00:17:29,333
Look at that.
468
00:17:29,458 --> 00:17:31,500
What could be driving
something like that?
469
00:17:31,542 --> 00:17:32,250
ANDY: Steady.
470
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PAUL: That's a pulse.
471
00:17:33,917 --> 00:17:34,875
ANDY: Whoa!
PAUL: Whoa.
472
00:17:34,958 --> 00:17:36,000
ANDY: Did you see the waves?
473
00:17:36,042 --> 00:17:37,792
PAUL: What is going on?
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Let's listen in.
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[crackling]
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It's very rhythmic.
477
00:17:46,708 --> 00:17:47,833
That's really interesting.
478
00:17:47,917 --> 00:17:48,708
ANDY: Very strange.
479
00:17:48,792 --> 00:17:49,500
Look at that fall.
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What is that?
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After our previous
investigation in Mount Shasta,
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I absolutely expected to
see aerial phenomenon.
483
00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:57,875
Orbs.
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00:17:57,958 --> 00:17:59,500
Strange, unidentified UAPs.
485
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Something centering
on the mountain.
486
00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:03,458
But we're not
seeing that at all.
487
00:18:03,542 --> 00:18:06,417
Instead, we're seeing this
extremely strange footprint
488
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of radio frequency energy that's
happening on the spectrum,
489
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both in terms of shape and
in terms of sound itself.
490
00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:17,292
In between the
crackles, there is a--
491
00:18:17,375 --> 00:18:18,750
So there is information there.
492
00:18:18,833 --> 00:18:20,167
There is stuff there.
493
00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:21,500
That's interesting.
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[rhythmic crackling]
495
00:18:27,208 --> 00:18:28,500
Paul, what a strange thing.
496
00:18:28,583 --> 00:18:30,792
Yeah, I don't know
what to make of that.
497
00:18:30,875 --> 00:18:31,833
ANDY: Yeah, we're back up.
498
00:18:31,917 --> 00:18:33,583
It has power now.
499
00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:36,167
NARRATOR: The Nu-Salt Laser
team has been dead in the water
500
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so far because of strange
connection issues.
501
00:18:39,458 --> 00:18:42,667
So now, they're bypassing
their computer controller
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00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:45,542
and simply operating
the projectors locally.
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00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,250
When you're ready,
I'll turn that on.
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00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:48,667
PAUL: Yeah, go for it.
Let's give it a shot.
505
00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:50,292
OK.
506
00:18:50,375 --> 00:18:51,458
We don't know how much
longer before our equipment
507
00:18:51,542 --> 00:18:52,333
stops working.
508
00:18:52,375 --> 00:18:54,750
Yeah.
509
00:18:54,875 --> 00:18:55,875
All right.
510
00:18:55,958 --> 00:18:56,958
Lasers on.
- Hey!
511
00:18:57,042 --> 00:18:58,000
- Look at that.
- All right.
512
00:18:58,042 --> 00:18:58,750
Great.
513
00:19:02,625 --> 00:19:04,917
Tim, are you running, like,
a test pattern right now?
514
00:19:05,042 --> 00:19:06,042
That's what that is?
515
00:19:06,125 --> 00:19:07,292
That's exactly what I'm doing.
516
00:19:07,375 --> 00:19:08,083
OK.
517
00:19:08,208 --> 00:19:09,792
Yeah, look.
518
00:19:09,875 --> 00:19:12,083
NARRATOR: Because Nu-Salt
is bypassing their computer
519
00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:16,000
controller, the lasers only have
the ability to project patterns
520
00:19:16,083 --> 00:19:19,333
several feet in front of them in
the direction of the mountain.
521
00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:21,708
So we're seeing some response
here in the radio spectrum
522
00:19:21,792 --> 00:19:22,708
potentially.
523
00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:23,958
See, look at this.
524
00:19:24,042 --> 00:19:24,958
You see this?
ANDY: Yeah.
525
00:19:25,083 --> 00:19:26,542
I wonder what's going on there.
526
00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:27,375
TIM: I don't know.
527
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,250
But it started with the lasers.
528
00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:33,000
Look at how broad the energy
is with the lasers on.
529
00:19:33,083 --> 00:19:35,000
But it wasn't
there a second ago.
530
00:19:35,042 --> 00:19:37,250
Strange phenomenon
on the radio spectrum
531
00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:39,125
seemed to be a solid
indicator that you're
532
00:19:39,208 --> 00:19:40,375
in some kind of a hotspot.
533
00:19:40,458 --> 00:19:42,125
But what's really
blowing me away
534
00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:44,083
is that what we're seeing
on the spectrum right now,
535
00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:46,000
that's tied to the fact
that the Nu-Salt team
536
00:19:46,083 --> 00:19:48,000
just started sending
out electrical impulses
537
00:19:48,042 --> 00:19:49,000
with their lasers.
538
00:19:49,042 --> 00:19:51,375
Through 1.78 gigahertz.
539
00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:53,125
Continuing and continuing.
540
00:19:53,208 --> 00:19:54,625
PAUL: Wow.
541
00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:56,875
I mean, it's, for sure,
slapping us in the face.
542
00:19:56,958 --> 00:20:00,375
That's a wide surge in
energy across the spectrum.
543
00:20:00,458 --> 00:20:01,167
Whoa!
544
00:20:04,875 --> 00:20:06,208
We lose a projector?
545
00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:07,292
ANDY: Looks like it.
546
00:20:11,833 --> 00:20:16,083
We lost the projector at the
same time we lost the signal.
547
00:20:16,167 --> 00:20:18,167
Holy smokes, Paul.
548
00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:21,667
The lasers came on, and
the radio spectrum changed.
549
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:24,708
We lose 50% of our
laser capability.
550
00:20:24,792 --> 00:20:25,792
- Yeah.
- And--
551
00:20:25,875 --> 00:20:27,083
And the signal changed again.
552
00:20:27,083 --> 00:20:28,458
And the signal changes again.
553
00:20:28,542 --> 00:20:30,833
We often have
equipment problems.
554
00:20:30,917 --> 00:20:32,417
But this is on a new level.
555
00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:33,125
Yeah.
556
00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:34,750
Really.
557
00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:37,375
And guys, I mean, this is
the best we can do, right.
558
00:20:37,458 --> 00:20:39,042
We can't get out of
the test pattern.
559
00:20:39,125 --> 00:20:40,333
This is it.
- Yeah, this is it.
560
00:20:40,375 --> 00:20:41,958
It just seems like
there's too much
561
00:20:42,042 --> 00:20:44,500
interference
between our computer
562
00:20:44,583 --> 00:20:46,375
and our laser light
show projectors.
563
00:20:46,458 --> 00:20:48,458
What would you expect
to happen if the energy
564
00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:50,375
was being pulled from it?
565
00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:53,458
It would have
connection problems.
566
00:20:53,458 --> 00:20:55,958
Like what we're talking
about right now.
567
00:20:56,042 --> 00:20:57,417
I don't know, man.
568
00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:58,167
Yes.
569
00:20:58,250 --> 00:20:59,958
Very strange.
570
00:21:00,042 --> 00:21:01,208
All right.
571
00:21:01,292 --> 00:21:03,208
Well, with that,
thank you, Jamie.
572
00:21:03,333 --> 00:21:04,292
Thanks, guys.
573
00:21:04,375 --> 00:21:05,958
And I guess let's break it down.
574
00:21:06,042 --> 00:21:07,000
Break it down
575
00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:08,333
JAMIE: Well, thank you,
guys, too.
576
00:21:08,375 --> 00:21:10,000
ANDY: Pack it up.
577
00:21:10,083 --> 00:21:11,833
Thank you.
578
00:21:16,792 --> 00:21:19,458
I did not expect to see
what happened at McCloud.
579
00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:22,500
With the equipment failure,
with the spectrum analyzer,
580
00:21:22,583 --> 00:21:24,208
with the audio
signal that turned
581
00:21:24,375 --> 00:21:27,500
into an actual palpitation
of some kind of heartbeat
582
00:21:27,583 --> 00:21:29,250
or some sort of
metallic drumbeat.
583
00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:30,833
That was wild.
584
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,417
The stories about Shasta that
I've heard the most about
585
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,375
are what happens in the
skies around the place.
586
00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:38,667
The orbs, the, you know,
the UFOs, the UAPs.
587
00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:40,833
But this was a
whole new dimension.
588
00:21:40,875 --> 00:21:42,458
And now it certainly
seems like there
589
00:21:42,542 --> 00:21:44,417
is some sort of strange
phenomenon emanating
590
00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,167
from the energy in the mountain.
- Right.
591
00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:47,875
I feel like the
mountain is trying
592
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,125
to keep its secrets from
us, and we need to get
593
00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:51,333
a little bit more aggressive.
594
00:21:51,417 --> 00:21:53,000
What do you think
we should do now?
595
00:21:53,042 --> 00:21:57,875
The idea that the mountain is
somehow supercharged with energy
596
00:21:57,958 --> 00:22:00,667
or that it's it's able
to deliver that energy
597
00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:02,333
to the community
around it, I mean,
598
00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:04,000
that's something
that we should be
599
00:22:04,083 --> 00:22:05,792
able to actually measure in the
geology of the mountain itself.
600
00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:07,500
Right.
601
00:22:07,583 --> 00:22:08,667
We just have to be able to
take a sample of the mountain
602
00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:10,625
and then expose it
to certain energy.
603
00:22:10,625 --> 00:22:12,875
And one of the perfect energy
forms that I think we can use
604
00:22:12,958 --> 00:22:14,375
is electrical energy.
605
00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:17,458
I want to take rock
samples from Mount Shasta.
606
00:22:17,542 --> 00:22:18,833
OK.
607
00:22:18,917 --> 00:22:22,333
And kind of run a
Frankenstein experiment on them.
608
00:22:22,417 --> 00:22:25,083
Put a bolt on
either side and see
609
00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:27,458
if we can run current through
them and what they'll do.
610
00:22:27,542 --> 00:22:29,000
Wait, so you
want to try to run
611
00:22:29,083 --> 00:22:30,833
electricity through the rocks?
612
00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:33,167
Because that'll give us
a chance to actually see,
613
00:22:33,292 --> 00:22:35,167
do they have their own energy?
614
00:22:35,292 --> 00:22:36,958
Do they conduct energy?
615
00:22:37,042 --> 00:22:37,958
Or do they store energy?
616
00:22:38,042 --> 00:22:39,750
Right.
617
00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:41,333
I mean, no matter what, we're
going to see how they respond.
618
00:22:41,417 --> 00:22:43,333
And I think I know just
the person to help us.
619
00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:44,792
Well, I think I know
where you're going.
620
00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:45,833
Tesla coils.
Cameron.
621
00:22:45,875 --> 00:22:46,667
Exactly right.
622
00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:47,917
Cameron Prince.
623
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,667
NARRATOR: In 2020,
the Skinwalker team
624
00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:53,500
brought in Tesla coil
expert Cameron Prince
625
00:22:53,583 --> 00:22:55,333
to stimulate the environment.
626
00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:56,667
Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.
627
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,167
What is that?
628
00:22:58,250 --> 00:23:00,667
NARRATOR: Which seemed to
trigger the appearance of a UAP.
629
00:23:00,708 --> 00:23:04,375
Andy and Paul will now bring
Cameron to Mount Shasta
630
00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:06,792
to do an experiment
with the Tesla coil
631
00:23:06,875 --> 00:23:10,000
never before tried
at Skinwalker Ranch.
632
00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:12,958
With a Tesla coil, the
energy goes in the path
633
00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:14,250
of least resistance.
634
00:23:14,375 --> 00:23:16,542
So if we see the energy
jump from the Tesla coil
635
00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:19,125
to a rock from
Mount Shasta, we'll
636
00:23:19,208 --> 00:23:21,958
also be able to measure whether
or not that electrical current
637
00:23:22,042 --> 00:23:23,333
carries through the rock.
638
00:23:23,417 --> 00:23:25,583
And we'll learn with one
experiment two answers.
639
00:23:25,667 --> 00:23:27,625
One, are the rocks
attracting the energy?
640
00:23:27,708 --> 00:23:29,833
And two, will they store
the energy or conduct it?
641
00:23:29,917 --> 00:23:31,125
Yeah.
OK.
642
00:23:31,208 --> 00:23:32,708
I like it.
643
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:36,333
I mean, it's crazy, but, I
mean, at this point, you know,
644
00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:37,292
why not?
645
00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:37,875
Yeah.
646
00:23:49,042 --> 00:23:51,417
Cameron, I'm really pumped
to have you back tonight.
647
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:52,917
It's always great
to see you, man.
648
00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:55,208
We know literally sparks
are going to fly whenever
649
00:23:55,292 --> 00:23:56,250
Cameron Prince is around.
650
00:23:56,333 --> 00:23:57,333
You know it.
651
00:23:57,417 --> 00:23:59,042
Glad to be here.
Thank you.
652
00:23:59,125 --> 00:24:01,000
NARRATOR: Andy and Paul have
brought in Skinwalker veteran
653
00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:05,167
Cameron Prince to shoot
electricity from a Tesla coil
654
00:24:05,292 --> 00:24:07,833
into the rocks here
at Mount Shasta.
655
00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:09,542
So we have two main
objectives tonight.
656
00:24:09,625 --> 00:24:11,125
One is to determine
whether or not
657
00:24:11,208 --> 00:24:14,375
the rocks that are native to
this area can conduct energy.
658
00:24:14,458 --> 00:24:15,792
Second, we want to
know whether or not
659
00:24:15,875 --> 00:24:18,292
these rocks can absorb energy.
660
00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:20,750
Now, I gave you a number
of native samples.
661
00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:22,417
Where are those?
Have you prepped those already?
662
00:24:22,542 --> 00:24:23,542
They're right back here.
663
00:24:23,625 --> 00:24:25,000
We've got most of them.
- OK.
664
00:24:25,083 --> 00:24:26,000
OK.
665
00:24:26,083 --> 00:24:28,125
Beautiful.
666
00:24:28,208 --> 00:24:29,667
Oh, wow.
667
00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:31,333
So you've got them set up
already with electrodes.
668
00:24:31,417 --> 00:24:32,875
Yes.
669
00:24:32,958 --> 00:24:34,583
NARRATOR: Cameron has
prepped multiple rocks
670
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:36,667
so they can see what
happens when they
671
00:24:36,750 --> 00:24:39,375
try to run the electricity
from the Tesla coil
672
00:24:39,458 --> 00:24:40,833
through each stone.
673
00:24:40,958 --> 00:24:42,792
I have no idea what
it's going to do.
674
00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:45,500
I've never done this sort of
thing before with a Tesla coil.
675
00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,083
So first for me.
676
00:24:47,208 --> 00:24:49,625
We're going to light
these rocks up and find out.
677
00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:51,667
NARRATOR: For this
experiment, Cameron
678
00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:55,000
has attached an electrode
to both sides of each rock.
679
00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:58,500
He'll then fire off the
electricity from the Tesla coil
680
00:24:58,542 --> 00:25:00,917
into the rock to
see what happens.
681
00:25:01,042 --> 00:25:03,125
If the current goes
around the rock,
682
00:25:03,208 --> 00:25:06,917
it's repelling the electricity
and is not conductive.
683
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,042
If the current goes
through the rock,
684
00:25:09,125 --> 00:25:13,958
it's absorbing the electricity
and conducting energy.
685
00:25:14,042 --> 00:25:15,458
OK.
686
00:25:15,542 --> 00:25:17,375
NARRATOR: In addition to
firing off the Tesla coil,
687
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:19,417
the team will be
using their tools
688
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,958
to monitor for any
other strange anomalies
689
00:25:22,042 --> 00:25:25,667
happening within the rocks or
in the surrounding environment.
690
00:25:25,792 --> 00:25:27,833
So Cameron, we've set
up all of our, like,
691
00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:29,333
kind of core equipment here.
692
00:25:29,417 --> 00:25:30,958
We've got multiple
thermal cameras at work.
693
00:25:31,042 --> 00:25:33,417
We have a spectrum analyzer
to check the radio spectrum.
694
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,625
We also have a pretty
cool tool here.
695
00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:37,042
It's a big lens, guys.
696
00:25:37,125 --> 00:25:39,250
So this is a high speed
camera that's actually
697
00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:43,583
taking 1,910 frames per second.
698
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,667
NARRATOR: The Edgertronic
camera is a professional grade
699
00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:49,750
high speed camera that
can capture video 80
700
00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:52,083
times slower than in real life.
701
00:25:52,167 --> 00:25:55,292
It was originally invented
for professional baseball
702
00:25:55,375 --> 00:25:58,083
to slow down 100
mile per hour pitches
703
00:25:58,167 --> 00:26:02,375
to show the spin of the
ball for training purposes.
704
00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:05,250
And we'll be able to
review the footage right
705
00:26:05,375 --> 00:26:06,458
after we run this experiment.
706
00:26:06,542 --> 00:26:07,875
Great.
707
00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:09,667
We have no idea what's
going to happen here.
708
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,375
We are literally lighting
up rocks with electricity
709
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:13,625
from a Tesla coil.
710
00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:15,125
This is going to be fascinating.
711
00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:16,542
This is awesome.
712
00:26:16,625 --> 00:26:18,250
NARRATOR: The first
rock they'll be testing
713
00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:21,458
is a piece of limestone that
Cameron brought with him
714
00:26:21,542 --> 00:26:23,042
from his home in Alabama.
715
00:26:23,125 --> 00:26:25,208
They'll use this
as a control rock
716
00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:29,000
to compare against the rocks
found here at Mount Shasta.
717
00:26:29,083 --> 00:26:30,083
Bringing her up.
718
00:26:30,208 --> 00:26:31,917
[buzzing]
719
00:26:32,042 --> 00:26:33,000
Oh, whoa.
720
00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:34,958
Wow, look at that.
721
00:26:35,042 --> 00:26:36,667
Look at the rock smoking, man.
722
00:26:36,792 --> 00:26:38,542
PAUL: I was just going to
say, it immediately starts.
723
00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:45,208
ANDY: Yeah, look at that.
724
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:50,208
Look at that.
725
00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:55,583
It's not heating up, though.
726
00:27:01,375 --> 00:27:04,167
Yeah, I'd say
it's not conductive.
727
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:06,417
So what we saw there
was the arc actually going
728
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,792
around the outside of the rock.
729
00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:10,000
Just jump the rock
completely to the electrode
730
00:27:10,083 --> 00:27:11,167
on the other side.
731
00:27:11,208 --> 00:27:13,833
ANDY: Exactly.
732
00:27:13,917 --> 00:27:15,333
Is it hot to the touch, Cameron?
733
00:27:15,417 --> 00:27:16,208
Nope.
734
00:27:19,458 --> 00:27:21,042
What we're seeing
is a rock that
735
00:27:21,125 --> 00:27:24,125
is rejecting any electrical
current through it at all.
736
00:27:24,125 --> 00:27:27,458
And that's why we're seeing
it arc around, over, behind.
737
00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:29,042
Anywhere it can go, right.
738
00:27:29,042 --> 00:27:30,542
Any place it can go, because
the rock won't let it
739
00:27:30,667 --> 00:27:32,667
go through the rock.
740
00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:36,000
Alabama limestone
is a cool customer.
741
00:27:36,083 --> 00:27:38,875
NARRATOR: After flooding
the Alabama limestone
742
00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:43,167
with electricity, the team will
now review the super slow motion
743
00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:44,833
camera footage.
744
00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:47,125
So on the limestone, it's
clearly tracing the surface.
745
00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:48,833
CAMERON: Yep.
746
00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:50,125
PAUL: Yeah, the current does not
want to go through that rock.
747
00:27:50,208 --> 00:27:52,333
NARRATOR: Since the
electricity went around,
748
00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:54,500
the limestone and
the rock didn't
749
00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:57,333
heat up with thermal
energy, this proves
750
00:27:57,375 --> 00:27:59,542
that it's not conductive.
751
00:27:59,625 --> 00:28:00,333
All right.
752
00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,708
So what's up next?
753
00:28:02,792 --> 00:28:04,000
We got to go with blue opal.
754
00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:05,167
OK.
755
00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:06,917
NARRATOR: The second
rock they'll test
756
00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:10,000
is a blue opal, which was
collected from the surface
757
00:28:10,083 --> 00:28:11,250
of Mount Shasta.
758
00:28:11,333 --> 00:28:14,500
This gemstone is also
found across the world
759
00:28:14,583 --> 00:28:16,625
and is known to be
a poor conductor
760
00:28:16,708 --> 00:28:18,667
of heat and electricity.
761
00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:20,875
So if this sample
from Mount Shasta
762
00:28:20,958 --> 00:28:23,750
is like the blue opal from
the rest of the world,
763
00:28:23,833 --> 00:28:26,667
electrical current should
go around the rock,
764
00:28:26,708 --> 00:28:30,458
and it shouldn't heat up.
765
00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,083
So look at this.
766
00:28:32,167 --> 00:28:33,667
This is going right
into the open.
767
00:28:33,792 --> 00:28:34,792
- Wow, look at that.
- It is.
768
00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:41,208
ANDY: This is going
right into the open.
769
00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:42,375
PAUL: Wow, look at that.
770
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:45,333
That means the stone
is conducting the energy.
771
00:28:45,417 --> 00:28:48,583
NARRATOR: The team is with
Cameron Prince at Mount Shasta,
772
00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:52,125
testing rocks native to the
area with a Tesla coil to see
773
00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:56,083
if they can conduct
or absorb electricity.
774
00:28:56,167 --> 00:28:58,583
Not only is it going
into the blue opal,
775
00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:02,292
but it's only one
stream of power coming
776
00:29:02,375 --> 00:29:03,542
from the Tesla coil, too.
777
00:29:03,625 --> 00:29:05,375
It's not splitting in any way.
778
00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:06,458
Interesting.
779
00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:07,625
It's totally different behavior.
780
00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:08,667
ANDY: Completely different.
781
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:09,875
Totally different.
782
00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:11,583
NARRATOR: They're
testing a theory
783
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,292
that rather than releasing what
many believe is healing energy,
784
00:29:14,375 --> 00:29:17,583
the mountain actually
absorbs energy away
785
00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:20,583
from the outside environment.
786
00:29:20,667 --> 00:29:23,250
It's not heating up, though.
787
00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:24,583
Oh.
Or is it?
788
00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:25,375
Yep, it is.
There we go.
789
00:29:25,458 --> 00:29:26,250
There we go.
790
00:29:26,333 --> 00:29:27,000
PAUL: For sure.
791
00:29:29,375 --> 00:29:31,125
Look at that.
792
00:29:31,208 --> 00:29:33,708
Pretty good.
793
00:29:33,792 --> 00:29:35,875
For sure, without a
doubt, the rock heated up.
794
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,500
So we know at least thermal
energy from the electric current
795
00:29:38,583 --> 00:29:40,333
got into the rock.
796
00:29:40,417 --> 00:29:41,958
Now it's going to look cool.
797
00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:44,333
NARRATOR: After flooding the
blue opal with electricity,
798
00:29:44,417 --> 00:29:47,167
the team will now review the
footage on the slow motion
799
00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:50,750
camera to see if they can
confirm that electricity was
800
00:29:50,833 --> 00:29:52,708
conducting through the rock.
801
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,542
PAUL: It's like it's
just absorbing all of it.
802
00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:55,833
Exactly.
803
00:29:55,917 --> 00:29:57,542
It really is taking
all of the current,
804
00:29:57,625 --> 00:30:00,208
carrying all of the current,
conducting all of the current.
805
00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:01,958
No arcing at all.
806
00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:03,667
And then, of course, we did see
the temperature increase, which
807
00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,167
means thermal energy
was being stored
808
00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:07,917
from the electrical energy
that was being input.
809
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,917
I mean, one thing
is, is evident, right,
810
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,125
is that the rock
from Mount Shasta
811
00:30:12,208 --> 00:30:14,042
is behaving
completely differently
812
00:30:14,125 --> 00:30:15,875
from the Alabama stone.
813
00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:17,542
ANDY: Yeah, I agree.
814
00:30:17,625 --> 00:30:20,292
NARRATOR: A quartz crystal
taken from deep inside the Mount
815
00:30:20,375 --> 00:30:24,000
Shasta caves is the final
rock the team will test.
816
00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:26,625
The caves are one of the
places they investigated
817
00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,333
during their first visit here.
818
00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:30,875
It was in these caverns
that they documented
819
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,375
a strange anomaly, when a
parabolic microphone failed
820
00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:37,667
to record their voice and
the sound waves seemed to be
821
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:39,417
swallowed up by the mountain.
822
00:30:39,542 --> 00:30:41,667
I'm just going to do a
real quick listen through.
823
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:42,583
Hold on, hold on.
824
00:30:42,667 --> 00:30:43,500
MAN: There's nothing.
825
00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:44,542
ANDY: There's no data.
826
00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:45,792
But I did say three, two, one.
827
00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:46,583
Absolutely.
828
00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:48,333
You did.
829
00:30:48,458 --> 00:30:52,417
What if the cave is absorbing
the energy we put out there?
830
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,958
Wait, what?
831
00:30:54,042 --> 00:30:56,167
I am very suspicious
right now that there could
832
00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:58,667
be some kind of event
where the phenomenon
833
00:30:58,792 --> 00:31:01,917
here is consuming energy.
834
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000
So you're saying the cave
is somehow drawing energy away
835
00:31:05,042 --> 00:31:06,833
so the mic can't pick it up.
836
00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:08,625
How would that be possible?
837
00:31:08,708 --> 00:31:10,208
NARRATOR: Quartz
crystal around the world
838
00:31:10,333 --> 00:31:13,292
is considered to be a poor
conductor of electricity.
839
00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:16,333
So now, the team will test to
see if the quartz from the Mount
840
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,333
Shasta caves is unique.
841
00:31:18,417 --> 00:31:21,375
If the electrical current is
forced around the crystal,
842
00:31:21,458 --> 00:31:24,250
it will show that it's
also non-conductive.
843
00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,292
But if it absorbs
the electricity,
844
00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:28,583
it will show the
quartz crystal at Mount
845
00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:31,083
Shasta is conductive
and different
846
00:31:31,208 --> 00:31:33,750
from other areas of the world.
847
00:31:33,833 --> 00:31:35,167
PAUL: All right.
848
00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:37,667
Let's see if our courts
can hold some power.
849
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,167
[buzzing]
850
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:40,875
All right.
851
00:31:40,958 --> 00:31:42,000
Once more with feeling.
852
00:31:51,917 --> 00:31:53,792
It's heating up very quickly.
853
00:31:53,875 --> 00:31:55,875
Yeah.
854
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,833
That air gap.
855
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:57,625
Wow, look at that!
856
00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:03,875
I mean, it's creating
tons of thermal energy.
857
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,583
Look at the arc.
858
00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:09,417
It's got a-- it's more
prominent toward the rock
859
00:32:09,542 --> 00:32:10,708
than it is the coil.
860
00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:12,292
ANDY: Yeah, how do
you explain that?
861
00:32:12,292 --> 00:32:13,417
I don't know.
862
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,292
It's pretty wild.
863
00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:17,083
Yeah.
864
00:32:17,167 --> 00:32:18,458
Oh, you got fire.
865
00:32:18,542 --> 00:32:19,250
We got fire.
866
00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:23,250
Oh.
867
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:24,625
You cooked it.
868
00:32:24,708 --> 00:32:25,417
It's smoking.
869
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:31,292
PAUL: Here we go.
870
00:32:31,375 --> 00:32:33,500
ANDY: You can see
it going through it.
871
00:32:33,625 --> 00:32:35,542
You can see it going through it.
872
00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:37,250
Wow, yeah.
873
00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,500
The most intense of all the
rock samples that we've had
874
00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:45,833
is really the one that's
coming from the caves.
875
00:32:45,917 --> 00:32:47,500
ANDY: That is absolutely
going through.
876
00:32:47,542 --> 00:32:48,333
Look at that.
877
00:32:48,417 --> 00:32:50,000
PAUL: Yep.
878
00:32:50,042 --> 00:32:53,500
CAMERON: And then that one's
definitely going through.
879
00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:56,083
I was not expecting to
see anything like this.
880
00:32:56,167 --> 00:32:57,750
So without a doubt,
what we have here
881
00:32:57,833 --> 00:33:01,583
is that these rocks from Mount
Shasta, these native rocks,
882
00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:03,542
are more conductive.
883
00:33:03,667 --> 00:33:06,292
They retain thermal energy.
884
00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:10,250
So we know for sure that there's
an element of these rocks that
885
00:33:10,375 --> 00:33:13,333
is retaining energy
and is converting it
886
00:33:13,417 --> 00:33:15,167
into a different form of energy.
887
00:33:15,250 --> 00:33:16,625
Yeah.
888
00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:18,292
Whereas our control rock
didn't do any of those things.
889
00:33:18,375 --> 00:33:19,708
No, it totally went around it.
890
00:33:19,792 --> 00:33:20,958
Yeah.
891
00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,458
These are
absorbing or passing.
892
00:33:23,542 --> 00:33:26,542
It's a totally different
behavior than our control.
893
00:33:26,625 --> 00:33:29,167
We came here to answer the
question of whether or not
894
00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:33,167
the phenomenon of Mount Shasta
might actually be pulling energy
895
00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:34,458
rather than giving energy.
- Yeah.
896
00:33:34,542 --> 00:33:36,250
I mean, certainly there
is more to the story
897
00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:38,208
here than this is
just, you know, a place
898
00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:40,542
of completely positive energy.
899
00:33:40,625 --> 00:33:43,083
The question is, what
is drawing people here?
900
00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:45,167
And what is being
drawn from them?
901
00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:47,167
Trying to take it back
to the Skinwalker team
902
00:33:47,208 --> 00:33:49,083
and let them make sense of it.
- Yeah.
903
00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:50,625
Well, Cameron, thanks
again for your help, man.
904
00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:58,792
Welcome back, guys.
905
00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:01,375
We're really excited to see
what you have to present to us.
906
00:34:01,458 --> 00:34:03,375
And I know the data
portion is going
907
00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:04,958
to be of particular interest.
908
00:34:05,042 --> 00:34:06,500
You know, when we were
preparing to go back
909
00:34:06,542 --> 00:34:08,500
to Mount Shasta, Erik, you
told us to keep an eye out
910
00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:10,708
for anything that we could
collect that would speak
911
00:34:10,792 --> 00:34:12,417
to the source of the energy.
912
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,250
And what we found started
off really hot as soon
913
00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:16,917
as we sat with Sheriff LaRue.
914
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Sheriff LaRue said there's
been more reports, particularly
915
00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:22,208
from the outlying areas
around Mount Shasta
916
00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:24,333
in an area called McCloud.
917
00:34:24,417 --> 00:34:29,042
And this is an area where people
very recently are seeing orbs.
918
00:34:29,042 --> 00:34:30,667
They're seeing
lights in the sky.
919
00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:33,042
So we set up our first round
of experiments at McCloud with
920
00:34:33,167 --> 00:34:36,250
the Nu-Salt laser team, with
all of our standard kit,
921
00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:39,167
with the Nu-Salt team there,
and with all of the experience
922
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:40,417
and all of their background.
923
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,125
They were struggling
with the inability
924
00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:45,667
to get any of their laser
equipment up and running.
925
00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:48,167
While they were struggling
with their laser equipment,
926
00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:51,333
we were seeing strange activity
on the spectrum analyzer.
927
00:34:51,458 --> 00:34:52,875
Let's tune in to
this one and see
928
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,125
if we can't make sense of it.
929
00:34:56,208 --> 00:34:58,917
We've never heard
that sound before.
930
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,083
So there's a peak in this plot
that's already got my attention.
931
00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,500
TRAVIS: Um Hm.
932
00:35:03,583 --> 00:35:04,833
ANDY: But this was one
of the things that had us
933
00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:05,958
scratching our heads, for sure.
PAUL: Absolutely.
934
00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:06,833
ANDY: We had never
seen this before
935
00:35:06,917 --> 00:35:08,042
in any of our investigations.
936
00:35:08,167 --> 00:35:10,417
I've never seen it
anywhere except here.
937
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:13,958
And now that you've
found it somewhere else,
938
00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:15,125
I find it really interesting.
939
00:35:15,208 --> 00:35:16,500
OK, look right there.
940
00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:18,417
You see the two off
to the right of that?
941
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:19,333
OK.
942
00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:21,375
And we see this pair of peaks.
943
00:35:21,458 --> 00:35:24,250
And there seems to
be like a tradeoff.
944
00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:25,833
Don't move that screen.
945
00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:27,875
But this, guys, I want you
all to pay attention to this,
946
00:35:27,958 --> 00:35:32,083
because this is absolutely one
of the best, most structured
947
00:35:32,167 --> 00:35:34,458
signals that you've ever caught.
948
00:35:34,542 --> 00:35:37,167
And I'm really excited about it.
949
00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:38,917
Well, the first thing
that jumps out at you
950
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,750
is you have this central
peak here, right.
951
00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:44,000
And that's at about 1.616.
952
00:35:44,125 --> 00:35:47,083
Now, look, you got
structure here.
953
00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:49,000
It's mirror images
of each other, right.
954
00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,292
And then you got
this structure here.
955
00:35:51,375 --> 00:35:52,833
Another mirror image.
956
00:35:52,917 --> 00:35:55,000
And you got this structure
here, this structure here.
957
00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:56,375
We call that dual sideband.
958
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,167
These are the
sidebands, and this
959
00:35:58,250 --> 00:36:01,208
is your main carrier signal.
960
00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:04,542
This is a communication
signal of some sort.
961
00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:06,500
When you see that
going that stable
962
00:36:06,583 --> 00:36:08,833
for a long period
of time, something
963
00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:10,417
is sending that signal.
964
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,750
That's not a random
thing happening.
965
00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:17,667
Question is, what is
sending that signal?
966
00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:19,000
Right.
967
00:36:19,083 --> 00:36:25,625
So this is like your
Shasta 1.6 gigahertz.
968
00:36:25,708 --> 00:36:28,333
Wow.
969
00:36:28,417 --> 00:36:30,250
Right?
970
00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,042
So that night, we actually
had multiple persistent signals
971
00:36:33,167 --> 00:36:35,833
that each had a
different auditory
972
00:36:35,917 --> 00:36:39,833
response or an auditory output.
973
00:36:39,917 --> 00:36:40,875
It's very rhythmic.
974
00:36:40,875 --> 00:36:44,167
[rhythmic crackling]
975
00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:50,375
That one is just
like the other one.
976
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:51,667
Isn't that's weird?
977
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:55,458
We're watching the
whole noise floor go up.
978
00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:59,833
There's possible mechanisms
that Mother Nature can create
979
00:36:59,917 --> 00:37:01,208
electromagnetic phenomena.
980
00:37:01,292 --> 00:37:03,208
But not communication signals.
981
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:06,667
Not technologically
generated signal.
982
00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:08,667
That is a technologically
generated signal.
983
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:11,500
There is a piece of
technology somewhere near you
984
00:37:11,625 --> 00:37:14,292
that is doing that,
and that's a high tech
985
00:37:14,375 --> 00:37:15,542
piece of technology doing that.
986
00:37:15,625 --> 00:37:17,333
Again, this is all
throughout the night
987
00:37:17,375 --> 00:37:19,458
at different phases of
the troubleshooting that's
988
00:37:19,542 --> 00:37:21,000
happening with the lasers.
989
00:37:21,083 --> 00:37:23,125
With all this
electromagnetic noise,
990
00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:26,625
I don't doubt that
Tim and the Nu-Salt
991
00:37:26,708 --> 00:37:28,500
guys were having difficulty.
ANDY: Pulling out their hair.
992
00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:29,833
So what were they
able to tell you
993
00:37:29,917 --> 00:37:31,375
about the nature of the
technical difficulties
994
00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:33,167
they were having?
995
00:37:33,208 --> 00:37:35,667
They couldn't give us any sort
of information that explained
996
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:37,375
why they had
failures, why it was
997
00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:40,542
happening on multiple devices,
after multiple resets.
998
00:37:40,625 --> 00:37:43,000
So the most they were able
to do was run a test pattern.
999
00:37:43,083 --> 00:37:44,333
Which is--
- On what?
1000
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,208
What were they
shining the lasers at?
1001
00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:48,500
Well, the idea originally
was to have them hit Mount
1002
00:37:48,583 --> 00:37:50,500
Shasta, which we couldn't do.
1003
00:37:50,542 --> 00:37:52,167
So the test pattern
is really just
1004
00:37:52,167 --> 00:37:54,750
into the woods that
were sort of, you know,
1005
00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:57,042
maybe a couple
hundred yards away.
1006
00:37:57,042 --> 00:37:59,583
So what does this all mean?
1007
00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:02,625
Think about what your original
intent was with this experiment.
1008
00:38:02,708 --> 00:38:05,875
Your original intent was to
shine a laser at the mountain.
1009
00:38:05,958 --> 00:38:09,708
And you were not allowed to
shine the laser at the mountain.
1010
00:38:09,792 --> 00:38:12,125
And whether that's just pure
serendipity, which I don't
1011
00:38:12,208 --> 00:38:17,125
really believe in, you
know, why is the intent
1012
00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:20,542
of your experiment befuddled?
1013
00:38:20,625 --> 00:38:23,167
Now, our experimentation
started at McCloud.
1014
00:38:23,292 --> 00:38:25,000
But we also called
in Cameron Prince
1015
00:38:25,042 --> 00:38:28,667
to help us see if we couldn't
identify or help to really hone
1016
00:38:28,792 --> 00:38:32,667
in on, is there any sort of
difference in how Mount Shasta
1017
00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:35,500
rocks in the mountain
or in the caves
1018
00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:38,708
respond to electrical inputs,
and whether or not they
1019
00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:40,375
retain any electricity,
whether or not
1020
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,917
they conduct the electricity?
1021
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,750
We had Cameron pack in his
carry-on bag a little bit
1022
00:38:44,875 --> 00:38:46,125
of Alabama limestone.
1023
00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:47,458
Oh, sure.
1024
00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:48,958
So that we could
get a non-Californian,
1025
00:38:49,042 --> 00:38:51,583
non-area sample as a control.
1026
00:38:51,583 --> 00:38:53,708
And what we saw with
the Alabama limestone
1027
00:38:53,792 --> 00:38:57,333
from outside of this region
is that it was not conducted.
1028
00:38:57,417 --> 00:38:59,708
[buzzing]
1029
00:38:59,833 --> 00:39:00,833
Yeah, look at that.
1030
00:39:03,625 --> 00:39:06,792
So it must be going
around it on the back side.
1031
00:39:06,875 --> 00:39:09,375
The Tesla coil and the
energy from the Tesla coil
1032
00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,542
was finding a more conductive
path around the stone
1033
00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:12,708
than through the stone.
1034
00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:13,917
TRAVIS: OK.
1035
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,500
So that first sample
was our our control,
1036
00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:17,417
what it looks like
outside of Mount Shasta.
1037
00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:22,333
Our final experiment with the
actual crystalline rock from
1038
00:39:22,375 --> 00:39:24,417
inside Mount Shasta caves--
1039
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,000
Look at the arc.
1040
00:39:26,083 --> 00:39:29,917
It's got a-- it's more
prominent toward the rock
1041
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,042
than it is the coil.
1042
00:39:31,125 --> 00:39:32,667
Yeah, how do you explain that?
1043
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:33,792
I don't know.
1044
00:39:33,875 --> 00:39:34,750
That's pretty wild.
1045
00:39:34,833 --> 00:39:35,750
PAUL: Yeah.
1046
00:39:35,833 --> 00:39:37,375
Interesting.
1047
00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:38,792
TRAVIS: Oh, that is a
beautiful picture right there.
1048
00:39:38,875 --> 00:39:40,583
- That's a great shot.
- That is absolutely beautiful.
1049
00:39:40,583 --> 00:39:43,500
And this is from inside the
heart of the Shasta caves.
1050
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,292
The same caves where
there was reported
1051
00:39:46,292 --> 00:39:49,500
portal activity that connected
back to Mount Shasta itself.
1052
00:39:49,542 --> 00:39:51,167
So you guys didn't
find the smoking gun,
1053
00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:52,458
you found the glowing gun.
1054
00:39:52,542 --> 00:39:53,292
PAUL: Yeah.
1055
00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:55,083
I like it.
1056
00:39:55,167 --> 00:39:58,792
Imagine you're from somewhere
else or when else or whatever,
1057
00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:05,000
and you repower your systems
through some sort of geophysics
1058
00:40:05,042 --> 00:40:06,833
or natural phenomena.
1059
00:40:06,833 --> 00:40:12,000
And where would you go to
recharge your batteries?
1060
00:40:12,083 --> 00:40:15,333
You would go to a place
where it's clearly easy.
1061
00:40:15,417 --> 00:40:16,917
It's natural, it's
happening right there.
1062
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,500
- Something energetic going on.
- Yeah.
1063
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,167
It sounds like
what we're saying
1064
00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:22,083
is that there's a possibility
that the mountain itself
1065
00:40:22,208 --> 00:40:24,833
is almost amplifying the energy
that's being attracted to it.
1066
00:40:24,958 --> 00:40:26,833
It's certainly
interacting with it.
1067
00:40:26,875 --> 00:40:29,833
Whether it's amplifying
it, changing it.
1068
00:40:29,917 --> 00:40:33,333
The geophysics of Mount Shasta
and the surrounding area
1069
00:40:33,375 --> 00:40:36,875
is in a symbiotic
electromagnetic relationship
1070
00:40:36,958 --> 00:40:41,583
with anything else in the
area that is electromagnetic.
1071
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:44,375
You may have just
validated that Mount
1072
00:40:44,458 --> 00:40:46,542
Shasta is a charging station.
1073
00:40:46,625 --> 00:40:48,750
You've now taken
it out of the realm
1074
00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:53,542
of the anecdotal and stories
that have been filtering out
1075
00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:56,500
of the community for
years and were grounding
1076
00:40:56,583 --> 00:40:58,833
a lot of that in science.
1077
00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:01,833
And it doesn't make it
any less mysterious.
1078
00:41:01,875 --> 00:41:07,833
In fact, if anything, it makes
it that much more baffling.
1079
00:41:07,958 --> 00:41:11,708
I think what we're seeing is
that the ranch and Mount Shasta
1080
00:41:11,833 --> 00:41:15,292
and some of the other places
are members of a class
1081
00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:17,167
of very special locations.
1082
00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:19,583
It may not be exactly the
same physics playing out.
1083
00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:22,292
But we're seeing commonalities.
1084
00:41:22,375 --> 00:41:23,958
And, you know, that's
not wasted on me.
1085
00:41:24,042 --> 00:41:26,167
And here's where the
malevolence or the benevolence
1086
00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:27,750
comes into play.
1087
00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:29,667
Think about what people
keep saying they see there
1088
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:32,958
and stories about portals,
stories about UAPs,
1089
00:41:33,042 --> 00:41:36,667
or even if it's just some sort
of electromagnetic phenomena
1090
00:41:36,708 --> 00:41:38,542
that at least gives you
the impression of that.
1091
00:41:38,625 --> 00:41:39,583
Well, we're
asking the question,
1092
00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:41,000
you know, is this malevolent?
1093
00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:42,333
Is it benevolent?
1094
00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:43,833
Is there intentionality
associated with it?
1095
00:41:43,958 --> 00:41:45,833
You know, it reminds me of
the question of, you know,
1096
00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:48,833
is fire or sunlight
malevolent or benevolent?
1097
00:41:48,875 --> 00:41:51,333
You know, it can keep you
warm or it can burn you.
1098
00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:52,708
So I'm not sure
that we should be
1099
00:41:52,792 --> 00:41:55,417
attaching intentionality to it.
1100
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:57,042
It's just energetic.
1101
00:41:57,125 --> 00:41:59,958
It's like sometimes a
brick is just a brick.
1102
00:42:00,042 --> 00:42:01,667
I can hit you in
the head with it,
1103
00:42:01,708 --> 00:42:03,417
or I could build
a house with it.
1104
00:42:03,542 --> 00:42:05,500
[laughs]
1105
00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:07,042
Thank you, gentlemen.
This is--
1106
00:42:07,042 --> 00:42:07,833
Well, thank you.
1107
00:42:07,917 --> 00:42:09,333
--incredible.
1108
00:42:09,375 --> 00:42:10,792
Excited for the next one.
1109
00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:12,167
BRANDON: Thank you so much.
Great work, guys.
1110
00:42:12,250 --> 00:42:12,875
PAUL: Thanks, sir.
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