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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,100 The years of the Spanish Inquisition were a hell on earth for people accused 2 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:15,900 practicing witchcraft and being in league with the devil. 3 00:00:16,420 --> 00:00:21,040 Many times condemned by their own friends and neighbors, they were tried 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,800 tortured by official inquisitors until they pleaded guilty of the charges 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,960 against them, whether they were guilty or not. 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,560 What is not so commonly known about this terrible error, however, 7 00:00:33,390 --> 00:00:37,310 is that some of the inquisitors actually enjoyed torturing their victims. 8 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:42,230 They derived great pleasure out of hearing their prisoners' screams of 9 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:47,130 and sometimes they would even force their unwilling captives to commit acts 10 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:53,130 depravity, simply because, beneath their righteous -minded exteriors, they 11 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:55,830 themselves were extremely depraved creatures. 12 00:00:56,590 --> 00:01:02,570 But as a psychiatrist specializing in all kinds of sexual psychoses, I've made 13 00:01:02,570 --> 00:01:08,150 lifelong study of human history, and I can assure you that while the era of the 14 00:01:08,150 --> 00:01:13,590 Inquisition is far behind us, the secret and suppressed sexual urges of mankind 15 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:16,510 are still very much with us. 16 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:18,110 Even today. 17 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,420 Claire Green is 23 years old, and when she came to see me at my office in San 18 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:39,140 Francisco, she told me she had started sneaking around her neighborhood and 19 00:02:39,140 --> 00:02:42,120 looking in people's windows shortly after she was married. 20 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,010 When I was returning home from shopping, I had... I heard all sorts of 21 00:02:57,010 --> 00:03:00,530 intriguing sounds coming from my neighbor's house next door. 22 00:03:01,170 --> 00:03:03,330 And I was curious about them. 23 00:03:03,710 --> 00:03:09,070 So, very carefully, I snuck up to their window and I looked inside. 24 00:03:12,610 --> 00:03:14,150 They were having sex. 25 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,080 Claire admitted that at first she was startled by what she saw when she looked 26 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,080 through the window. 27 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:36,000 She started becoming very excited at seeing what her neighbors Fred and Angie 28 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,160 were doing with each other. 29 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,140 Claire said she had never before seen other people having sex. 30 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,060 The more I watched, the more I realized how turned on I was getting. 31 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Fred and Angie weren't really doing anything my husband and I didn't do in 32 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,280 But it was very exciting for me to watch somebody else doing it. 33 00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:13,160 Then I suddenly realized something. 34 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:16,940 I thought it was odd that it hadn't struck me right away. 35 00:04:17,180 --> 00:04:22,079 But I suppose the first shock of seeing Fred and Angie in bed together, it may 36 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,000 be temporarily forget the most... 37 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,640 startling thing about it. 38 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,840 That Fred and Angie were brother and sister. 39 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:58,850 Claire Green watched her neighbors all through the afternoon, fascinated by 40 00:04:58,850 --> 00:05:00,470 their incestuous lovemaking. 41 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:06,190 She began wondering, for example, what other people might be like in the 42 00:05:06,190 --> 00:05:07,190 of their bedrooms. 43 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:11,230 What kind of secret lusts and desires did others have? 44 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:15,670 Was she suppressing secret sexual desires? 45 00:05:16,730 --> 00:05:17,990 She didn't know. 46 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:22,650 But now, she knew she had to find out. 47 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,240 It became an obsession with me. 48 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,340 Going out, sneaking around, and peeking into bedroom windows to see what I could 49 00:05:37,340 --> 00:05:39,700 see. I kept it up for months. 50 00:05:40,540 --> 00:05:45,300 I was seeing people I knew, and seeing them as I had never seen them before. 51 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:50,840 Many times I was absolutely shocked by what I saw them doing. 52 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,260 And other times, what they did in bed filled me with such excitement I thought 53 00:05:57,260 --> 00:05:58,260 I'd go crazy. 54 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,860 I'd get the idea I wanted to show myself to them. 55 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:04,600 And then jump right into bed with them. 56 00:06:05,980 --> 00:06:10,120 I've never in my whole life been in bed with two people at one time. 57 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:13,780 And I couldn't help wondering what it would be like. 58 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:17,940 Oh, but that isn't what really started bothering me after a while. 59 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,280 It was something else. 60 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 And it had to do with girls I'd seen in bed. 61 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Girls. Like Bonnie Simpson. 62 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,020 Very good friend of mine. 63 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,520 She was so lovely, I thought. 64 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,640 It wasn't just Bonnie Simpson, though, who began fascinating Claire so much. 65 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,680 It was, she told me, really all the girls she'd watched in bed. 66 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,160 And she became frightened of this attraction. 67 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,020 Afraid to think about what it might really mean. 68 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,900 More than getting myself excited by watching other people having sex, I 69 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:04,840 realizing that I was actually becoming obsessed with the crazy, wild feelings 70 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:07,840 I'd get whenever I saw a naked girl in bed. 71 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:14,680 I'd catch myself breathlessly watching her mouth, her body, everything about 72 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,460 her. And sometimes, late at night, when my husband and I were having sex at 73 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:21,460 home, 74 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,500 I'd watch myself dreaming that it wasn't my husband who was going down on me. 75 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,160 But a girl. 76 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,160 A girl like Bonnie. 77 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,220 Or some other girl. Any girl. 78 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:39,980 The thought of another girl crawling down my body and going down on me drove 79 00:07:39,980 --> 00:07:41,440 wild with sexiness. 80 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:43,160 And I knew it. 81 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,740 And that's when I started drinking heavily. 82 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Trying to drown myself in alcohol. 83 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:54,620 Rather than stay sober and wonder if my suppressed sex desire was that I wanted 84 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:55,620 to be a lesbian. 85 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,900 Was that it? 86 00:07:57,380 --> 00:08:00,040 Did I secretly want to be a lesbian? 87 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:06,440 No matter how frightened these thoughts made me, the next day there I was again, 88 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,400 sneaking around and watching, watching and enjoying the girls I was looking at. 89 00:08:20,810 --> 00:08:21,810 Hmm. 90 00:09:27,820 --> 00:09:28,860 Thank you. 91 00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:39,740 Yes, it was true. 92 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:45,180 Claire started drinking, trying to confuse her thoughts so she wouldn't be 93 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:49,100 thinking about what kind of secret sexual urges she might have been trying 94 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:51,760 suppress for who knows how many years. 95 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,440 But she was hardly alone. 96 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:59,300 Many people have resorted to alcohol for exactly the same reasons. 97 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:05,340 On the other hand, however, there have been those people who have given full 98 00:11:05,340 --> 00:11:07,640 vent to their urges no matter what they were. 99 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,620 One alarming example of this that I can recall is the group of young women and 100 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:16,720 men who called themselves the Cycle Devils. 101 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,540 of freaked out, maladjusted young people who, three years ago, rode their way 102 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:59,980 into a hellish reputation of terror, violence, sexual assault, and even 103 00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:05,140 Whatever they felt like doing, no matter what it was, they did it. 104 00:12:22,730 --> 00:12:27,850 held back on any of their insane desires and depraved lusts, and it finally took 105 00:12:27,850 --> 00:12:32,530 the combined might of the authorities of three counties in southwestern Utah to 106 00:12:32,530 --> 00:12:36,470 finally put an end to their insidious and despicable ways. 107 00:12:38,370 --> 00:12:44,330 Led by Mose Anderson, a hulking brute who enjoyed torturing people, the cycle 108 00:12:44,330 --> 00:12:49,310 devils often kidnapped helpless young girls and took them to their secret 109 00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:51,070 hideout in the Pine Valley Mountains. 110 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,780 At their hideout, they subjected their frightened prisoners to some of the most 111 00:12:56,780 --> 00:12:58,620 depraved rituals ever recorded. 112 00:12:59,580 --> 00:13:04,600 But this was exactly what Mose Anderson, their leader, wanted them to do. 113 00:13:05,540 --> 00:13:11,720 He was a deranged psychopath who demanded strict obedience to his evil 114 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,060 and the members of his gang seemed only too glad to satisfy him. 115 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,580 Under his orders, they inflicted great pain and suffering on their prisoners. 116 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:26,290 Girls who often died because of all of the abuse heaped on them. 117 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:32,190 The cycle devils are one of the most extreme examples of letting loose hidden 118 00:13:32,190 --> 00:13:33,890 urges that I can think of. 119 00:13:34,610 --> 00:13:40,350 The opposite would, of course, be a girl like Claire Green, who took to drink to 120 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:44,810 suppress her thoughts and desires and not face them for whatever they might 121 00:13:44,810 --> 00:13:45,810 mean. 122 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Yeah! 123 00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:26,860 I kept drinking heavily, hoping my husband would never find out. 124 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,840 But after a while, drinking didn't help at all. 125 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,540 And I realized I couldn't run away anymore for what I was really thinking 126 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,080 For who I was thinking about. 127 00:15:39,860 --> 00:15:40,860 Annie. 128 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Annie Conway. 129 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,900 We had gone to school together. 130 00:15:46,340 --> 00:15:48,880 I was intrigued by Annie. 131 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:51,020 Yes, that's the word. 132 00:15:51,940 --> 00:15:52,940 Intrigued. 133 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:59,020 At school, I'd always hear these really incredible stories about her, and I was 134 00:15:59,020 --> 00:16:00,040 intrigued by them. 135 00:16:00,940 --> 00:16:03,840 Was Annie really as amoral as everybody said? 136 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,740 I used to hear that she was some kind of peeping Tom, and that she'd had her 137 00:16:09,740 --> 00:16:11,660 first pair by the time she was 13. 138 00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:18,520 The guys at school used to say she'd do anything you wanted, if she liked you. 139 00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:24,210 She could also get a hold of liquor and dirty magazines and let you look at 140 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:25,109 them. 141 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:27,050 But she had to like you first. 142 00:16:27,770 --> 00:16:33,230 I think I was particularly fascinated by hearing about how she'd even go to bed 143 00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:35,550 with a girl if she liked the girl. 144 00:16:36,410 --> 00:16:40,610 Do you think you started becoming a peeping Tom because you heard that your 145 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:43,070 friend Annie also went around looking in windows? 146 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:45,930 I don't know. 147 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:48,050 Homer, I don't know what to think. 148 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,220 But Annie certainly seemed to lead a wild life compared to mine. 149 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,980 My life was always so sheltered. 150 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,860 And Annie's was so carefree and promiscuous. 151 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:26,190 No! No! 152 00:20:03,709 --> 00:20:07,310 Individuality and freedom have almost always appealed to people. 153 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:11,650 And certainly Anne Conway seemed to express both these qualities. 154 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:16,810 It was little wonder she held such fascination for a girl like Claire then. 155 00:20:17,670 --> 00:20:22,910 But the product of a broken home, Anne Conway's life was hardly the exciting 156 00:20:22,910 --> 00:20:24,890 life Claire thought the girl was leading. 157 00:20:25,870 --> 00:20:30,430 As they say, the grass always looks greener on the other side. 158 00:20:44,709 --> 00:20:47,510 oh oh 159 00:21:53,550 --> 00:21:54,550 Yes, 160 00:21:54,910 --> 00:21:57,390 Ann Conway was a devilish girl, all right. 161 00:21:57,790 --> 00:22:01,630 Looking into windows and spying on people while they had sex. 162 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:06,050 Going to limits with guys and other girls from a school. 163 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:10,530 Even making obscene phone calls when the mood suited her. 164 00:22:11,450 --> 00:22:12,670 But actually... 165 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Anne was a very lonely girl, shy and lonely. 166 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,780 She didn't have many real friends at all. 167 00:22:20,740 --> 00:22:25,680 Even the father she lived with didn't seem to like her very much, nor for that 168 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,360 matter did most of her school friends. 169 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,660 When she put out for them, she was okay in their book, but otherwise they really 170 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:34,240 didn't want much to do with her. 171 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:37,880 So she sought her own private pleasures. 172 00:22:51,530 --> 00:22:55,850 Mixed up about sex in her endless tormented search for love and 173 00:22:56,270 --> 00:23:02,010 Anne later became involved with Sookie, a Korean housegirl who worked for a most 174 00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:08,290 unusual family, a husband and wife who enjoyed sex orgies with their friends 175 00:23:08,290 --> 00:23:09,970 who wanted Sookie to join in. 176 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:17,330 Afraid to lose her job, Sookie Khan did join in, and often Anne would secretly 177 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:18,570 watch the goings -on. 178 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:37,010 those people seeming to have such a good time together on drugs and sex made Ann 179 00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:38,990 feel that much more lonely, however. 180 00:26:39,930 --> 00:26:43,270 But she liked Suki well enough, and they got along. 181 00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:48,650 A few years after Claire and Ann had their affair, Ann and Suki took an 182 00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:49,650 apartment together. 183 00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:54,830 It was a relationship that was destined to end in misery, though. 184 00:26:55,850 --> 00:27:00,070 Because high on drugs one evening, Ann committed suicide. 185 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:03,580 She did it unwittingly, of course. 186 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:09,780 But perhaps that ultimate escape from the loneliness of her life was what she 187 00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:11,740 had secretly been yearning for all along. 188 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,440 We shall never know. 189 00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:24,920 Anne Conway hasn't been the only girl who's ever turned to promiscuous sex 190 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,920 because of loneliness. 191 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,790 Many insecure girls who are seeking companionship and who will even accept a 192 00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:37,430 false notion of love in their desperation, have, in fact, become 193 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:38,430 prostitutes. 194 00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:44,010 To such girls, being a prostitute means that they are always in demand by 195 00:27:44,010 --> 00:27:45,010 someone. 196 00:27:45,390 --> 00:27:47,310 They need never be lonely again. 197 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:55,410 But during my past 27 years of practicing psychotherapy here in San 198 00:27:55,410 --> 00:28:00,280 have talked many times with such girls, and I can readily assure you that far 199 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,380 from being chic and happy call girls. 200 00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,560 Many prostitutes are very sad creatures. 201 00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:11,220 They all have their stories to tell, how they became prostitutes, their reasons 202 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:15,900 why, and of course they can talk also interestingly for hours about the 203 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:19,520 different kinds of men and women who have come to them for their services. 204 00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:27,440 More often they come to a prostitute for offbeat, even bizarre sex acts. 205 00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:32,640 They want things from prostitutes they would be afraid to ask for from their 206 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,640 wives or girlfriends. 207 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,300 This is, of course, an example of the individual not feeling completely free 208 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:43,620 give way to his true basic sex urges with someone he knows. 209 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:50,300 He thinks his wife or girlfriend might be shocked if she knew what kind of sex 210 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:51,660 he really wanted from her. 211 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:56,880 He believes the prostitute supposedly a woman of the world. 212 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,500 will understand him and comply with his desires no matter what they are. 213 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,620 And basically this is true. 214 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,740 Most prostitutes will do anything asked of them. 215 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,560 As the girls themselves have told me, that's what they are there for after 216 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,140 Sometimes, however, the girl will run into a very peculiar situation, totally 217 00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:22,360 surprised by it. 218 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,600 There is the case of Darla McIntyre, for example. 219 00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:31,840 a San Francisco prostitute who picked up a rather mild -mannered young man at a 220 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,600 cocktail lounge one evening a few years ago, and then went back with him to his 221 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,600 apartment. 222 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,260 He told her he wanted to massage her body. 223 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,840 He said he loved massaging girls' bodies, but that his girlfriend wouldn't 224 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,740 him do it because she thought massaging was weird. 225 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:56,300 But it was only after Dollar was at his apartment that she realized he had 226 00:29:56,300 --> 00:30:00,060 something, Much more in mind than simply giving her a massage. 227 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,220 He had other lusts, other desires that she knew nothing about. 228 00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:12,040 And she never suspected. 229 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,980 Until it was too late. 230 00:31:53,639 --> 00:31:56,440 No! No! 231 00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:11,400 Dala was dead. 232 00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:14,480 She never had a chance to defend herself. 233 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,780 Dala's confused search to end loneliness had only succeeded in ending her life. 234 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,340 Just as it had eventually ended the life of Anne Conway. 235 00:33:51,790 --> 00:33:54,390 There was another girl I knew who was like Anne. 236 00:33:55,150 --> 00:33:59,650 But she moved away to Las Vegas shortly after we graduated from high school. 237 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:01,430 Her name was Cynthia. 238 00:34:03,030 --> 00:34:07,410 But I have to admit that I was never as strongly attracted to Cynthia as I was 239 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:08,409 to Anne. 240 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:10,929 Tell me about her, Claire. 241 00:34:11,610 --> 00:34:14,670 Well, like I said, Cynthia was something like Anne. 242 00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:18,710 She always had the gumption to do whatever she felt like doing. 243 00:34:19,659 --> 00:34:21,719 She wasn't inhibited at all. 244 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,360 Not like me. 245 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,699 And she was always very open about what she liked and didn't like. 246 00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:33,400 She told me she never tried to deny herself anything at all. 247 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:37,440 If she wanted something, she went after it. 248 00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:39,820 And she usually always got it. 249 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,300 She wasn't afraid to try. 250 00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:46,620 To give in her to her desires and urges. 251 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,300 I was always... 252 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,719 Did you ever think you were falling in love with her, Claire? 253 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:57,160 Who, Cynthia? 254 00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:58,840 No, not at all. 255 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,240 I just like to be with her and listen to her tell me about all the things she 256 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,240 liked to do. 257 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,980 Cynthia was a real sex freak, you see. 258 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,460 She could tell you the wildest stories about her experiences in the bedroom. 259 00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:17,700 And I guess when she told me about her bedroom adventures... 260 00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,450 I was living vicariously through her. 261 00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:23,590 I really liked hearing about them. 262 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:29,290 They were exciting, and I never got tired of listening to her talk about how 263 00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:30,650 much she liked going to bed. 264 00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:33,250 She really loved it. 265 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:38,630 Lots of times, she told me about how she would keep a fellow in bed with her 266 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:40,990 long after she had exhausted him. 267 00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:46,910 She always wanted more and more, and she wasn't ashamed to admit it. 268 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,620 Cynthia was something else, all right. 269 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,720 Completely free and uninhibited. 270 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:55,880 She loved it. 271 00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:39,970 No. No. 272 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,260 We had some old stag movies we used to run at our house sometimes. 273 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:29,300 When we were first married, my husband bought a projector and we'd run them in 274 00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:30,300 our bedroom. 275 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,060 Usually they turned me on so much I really got wild in bed. 276 00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:36,920 And John liked it. 277 00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:41,480 But after a while, John wasn't interested in looking at them anymore. 278 00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:44,400 So we put them away in a closet. 279 00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:51,900 But a lot of times when he wasn't around, I'd bring them out and have a 280 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,420 and look at them by myself. 281 00:38:55,820 --> 00:39:00,620 Was there any one particular film that you liked better than any other? 282 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,940 Actually, there was. 283 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:06,140 It was called Amy's Two Lovers. 284 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,980 It showed this really attractive girl enjoying herself with a vibrator. 285 00:39:12,860 --> 00:39:16,420 Then later in the film, she put aside her vibrator. 286 00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:18,660 And made love to a real person. 287 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,960 Her boyfriend, I suppose. 288 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480 You say you found this girl very attractive? 289 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:26,140 I did. 290 00:39:26,780 --> 00:39:30,100 I... I... Well, I... Yes, Claire. 291 00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:32,060 You what? 292 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:37,600 Well, she seemed to remind me in so many ways of Anne Conway. 293 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,380 I don't mean that she looked like Anne. 294 00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:44,280 I mean, she just seemed to be the same sort of girl. 295 00:39:45,580 --> 00:39:48,360 She seemed to be in control of her life. 296 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,120 She was a dominating figure. 297 00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:53,540 She seemed so secure. 298 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,200 She didn't seem afraid of what she liked or wanted. 299 00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:01,780 If she liked to play with a vibrator, all right. 300 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,860 She just went ahead and did it. 301 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:10,040 If she wanted to fool around with a fellow, any fellow, I got the idea she 302 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,320 the kind of girl who'd just go ahead and do it. 303 00:40:14,350 --> 00:40:16,390 She seemed very uninhibited that way. 304 00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:19,050 And so she reminded me of Annie. 305 00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:24,230 Oh, I used to watch that film of hers all the time. 306 00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:26,310 Over and over and over. 307 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:29,230 Again and again and again. 308 00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:32,290 Oh, I was so satisfied. 309 00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:09,020 Where did you get these films, Clara? 310 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:14,580 After John and I got married, we bought them from Cynthia's sister, Rosemary. 311 00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:16,500 Cynthia's sister? 312 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,680 Yes, I told you about Cynthia. 313 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,960 She was the girl who was a sex freak and who moved to Las Vegas shortly after we 314 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,220 graduated from high school. 315 00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:41,960 Cynthia had a sister named Rosemary, who was always a bit on the wild side, too. 316 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,940 I didn't know Rosemary as well as I did Cynthia, of course. 317 00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:48,060 But I did see her around. 318 00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:51,200 She was always with some new guy, it seemed. 319 00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:55,400 I didn't hear many stories in school about her. 320 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:59,480 But if you ask me, I think she was just as uninhibited as Cynthia. 321 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,820 Both of those girls didn't care to hold any urges back. 322 00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:11,540 I guess you might say they were both out for all they could get in life, by way 323 00:42:11,540 --> 00:42:13,380 of sexual gratification, at least. 324 00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:18,240 Rosemary had some context to get sexy movies. 325 00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:23,940 And when John and I got married, her wedding gift to us was a dozen dirty 326 00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:28,100 She said we should watch them and enjoy. 327 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,780 Ah, Rosemary was something else, all right. 328 00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:35,340 She had such a big appetite for life. 329 00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:38,700 I haven't seen her in years now. 330 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,760 But I'll bet she hasn't changed. 331 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,060 I'll bet she's still doing what she likes to do. And doing a lot of it, too. 332 00:43:20,669 --> 00:43:23,390 Thank you. 333 00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:40,820 Thank you. 334 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,360 Oh! 335 00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:17,500 Tell me again what happened that day when you actually realized that one of 336 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,840 secret suppressed desires was to make love to your girlfriend, Ann Conway. 337 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,060 I was at home watching one of the stag movies one afternoon. 338 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,580 And I'd had a few drinks. 339 00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:35,240 And I suddenly realized that ever since high school, I'd wanted to go to bed 340 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,480 with Ann Conway. 341 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,940 I had a few more drinks. 342 00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:42,970 And suddenly I was on my way to Annie's place. 343 00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:50,710 Come hell or high water, I knew if I stopped, I'd never go 344 00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:51,710 through with it. 345 00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:54,270 It was now or never, I realized. 346 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,740 felt my heartbeat quicken. 347 00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:32,220 She shocked me. 348 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:37,520 She said she wasn't at all surprised to see me again. The only thing that did 349 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,120 surprise her, she said, was that it had taken me so long to come. And then the 350 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,280 next thing I knew, we were in bed together. 351 00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:47,220 It was unreal. 352 00:50:26,060 --> 00:50:28,460 I'll ever forget that afternoon with Annie. 353 00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:32,360 She let me do anything I wanted to her. 354 00:50:33,260 --> 00:50:37,040 Wild, insane things I'd dreamt about. 355 00:50:37,780 --> 00:50:43,520 And I was so frantically excited about it, I must have climaxed four or five 356 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,460 times the first hour alone. 357 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,240 Oh, it was all such madness. 358 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,780 It was an incredible day with Annie. 359 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,440 But I never saw her again. 360 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,040 Only that once. 361 00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:02,880 I've never had any desire to see her again either, Doctor. 362 00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,360 But I'm still worried. 363 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,940 Am I a lesbian? 364 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,660 Is that really my secret desire? 365 00:51:14,020 --> 00:51:16,440 Well, I don't think you have anything to worry about, Claire. 366 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,500 The fact that you never went back to Anne Conway. 367 00:51:20,810 --> 00:51:24,550 And the fact you've never had such a relationship with any other girl either 368 00:51:24,550 --> 00:51:28,510 convinces me that you're still a perfectly normal young woman. 369 00:51:29,610 --> 00:51:30,630 You'll be all right. 370 00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:33,050 Let me tell you something. 371 00:51:33,850 --> 00:51:35,910 It's about a girl from New York. 372 00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:39,950 Before leaving the aircraft, we'd like to remind you to please check the 373 00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:44,030 overhead racks, underneath your seat, and the seat pockets for all your 374 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:45,030 belongings. 375 00:51:45,290 --> 00:51:47,330 On behalf of your stewardesses... 376 00:51:47,980 --> 00:51:49,760 It's been our pleasure serving you tonight. 377 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,840 We hope you've enjoyed your ride. 378 00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:05,740 Her name was Josie, 379 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,140 and she worked at an answering service. 380 00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:12,480 She came to me as a patient with much the same worry you had. 381 00:52:12,970 --> 00:52:19,010 that because she had given in to a suppressed urge at one time, that she 382 00:52:19,010 --> 00:52:21,310 have become seriously affected by it. 383 00:52:22,690 --> 00:52:28,530 She didn't have a regular boyfriend, and often after work she'd go to a nearby 384 00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:30,770 singles bar and pick up somebody. 385 00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:37,050 But one night, having had too much to drink, she came home with a fellow who 386 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:41,070 promised her that he was going to give her exactly what she had been secretly 387 00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:42,150 wanting all her life. 388 00:52:43,250 --> 00:52:49,310 You see, Josie had gotten so drunk that night that she actually admitted to this 389 00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:52,930 fellow, Edward, one of her secret suppressed urges. 390 00:52:53,570 --> 00:52:59,130 At first, they played around with each other, but after a while, they got down 391 00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:05,330 to the nitty -gritty of Josie's secret sexual fantasy, which, for the first 392 00:53:05,330 --> 00:53:07,870 in her life now, became a blunt reality. 393 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:16,720 Please. 394 00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:55,240 When she came to my office here in San Francisco some years later, she told me 395 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:57,220 she had really freaked out that night. 396 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,840 It was like nothing she had ever experienced before. 397 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,680 It was humiliating, of course, but as I explained to her, that was what she 398 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,120 wanted, to be humiliated. 399 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,140 It was a guilt feeling expressing itself. 400 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,080 Guilt she felt for picking up a new fellow each night and thinking too much 401 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,080 about sex. 402 00:57:18,730 --> 00:57:22,410 She wanted to be punished because she knew she was wrong. 403 00:57:23,950 --> 00:57:27,690 Outwardly, that night, of course, she was so drunk she thought she was 404 00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:28,690 herself. 405 00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:34,890 The next morning, however, she realized what she'd done and considered suicide. 406 00:57:36,550 --> 00:57:38,870 Fortunately, though, she didn't take her life. 407 00:57:39,790 --> 00:57:44,250 Instead, she moved away from New York to start a new life for herself here in 408 00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:45,250 San Francisco. 409 00:57:46,990 --> 00:57:51,430 Then two years later, wanting to talk to somebody about it, she came to me. 410 00:57:53,230 --> 00:57:58,210 Normally, of course, I would never discuss another patient's case, but she 411 00:57:58,210 --> 00:57:59,350 given me permission to. 412 00:58:01,830 --> 00:58:04,830 She thought it might help some other girl with a similar problem. 413 00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:09,510 The problem of self -doubt, like you had, Claire. 414 00:58:09,830 --> 00:58:13,210 You say she's perfectly normal now, Doctor? 415 00:58:14,030 --> 00:58:18,370 Oh, yes, indeed. Her secret urge was something abominable that she had to get 416 00:58:18,370 --> 00:58:19,370 out of her system. 417 00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:22,870 But fortunately, you see, no one was hurt in the process. 418 00:58:23,710 --> 00:58:28,350 But yes, Claire, she has been cured and leads a perfectly normal life now. 419 00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:32,450 As a matter of fact... Yes, Doctor? 420 00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:36,370 As a matter of fact, I married her. 35096

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