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- Tonight, on
"The Proof is Out There."
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Lasers in the Hawaiian sky.
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Is this a secret space weapon?
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- These lasers
are very sinister.
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They're part of a
targeting system
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that was targeting
the state of Hawaii.
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- [Tony] A mysterious claw.
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Did a sea monster
attack a navy ship?
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- Really one of the
most remarkable things
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that has ever happened involving
an unknown sea creature
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of gigantic proportions.
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- [Tony] Does a remarkable
photo prove Bigfoot
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or his cousin is
after your dogs?
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- You've heard of Bigfoot,
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but have you heard of Gugwe?
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- [Misty] That is weird.
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- [Tony] And what's
that ring of lights
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near a historic government lab?
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- This area has been a hotspot
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for UFO sightings for 70 years.
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[dramatic music]
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- [Tony] Around the
globe are videos.
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- [Witness] What are
those things?
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- [Bystander] It's moving.
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- [Tony] Photos and sounds
that defy explanation.
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[noise screeching]
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[dramatic music]
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- [Female Expert] We don't know
where they come from,
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who made them, or
how they operate.
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- [Tony] What are they?
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- [Male Expert] Some sort
of bizarre mutation.
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- [Enthusiast] What's exciting
is nobody really knows.
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- Extraordinary claims
need extraordinary proof.
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[dramatic music]
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- I'm Tony Harris.
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And as a journalist
for more than 30 years,
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I've followed the facts
where they take me.
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Now I'm bringing that
spirit of investigation
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to the world's strangest
sounds and images.
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We'll analyze each
one with top experts.
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[vehicle crashing]
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- It's a credible case,
it's a credible video.
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- [Tony] And pass a
verdict on what it is.
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- This video was clearly faked.
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- The proof starts now.
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[dramatic music]
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Good evening, everyone,
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and welcome to
"The Proof is Out There."
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Since laser beams were first
introduced in the 1960s,
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they've been put
to many good uses,
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from lifesaving surgeries
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to laser-triggered home alarms.
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But this next video
will leave you wondering
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if lasers are also being used
for more sinister purposes,
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specifically in the sky.
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It's January 2023, on
the big island of Hawaii,
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atop the summit of
the Mauna Kea volcano,
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a camera on the Subaru telescope
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captures the early morning
sky over the Pacific.
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The camera is livestreaming
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when from out of nowhere
a series of green lasers
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appears to sweep across
the sky from left to right.
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[mysterious music]
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Take another look. It only
lasts for about a second.
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And when we freeze it,
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we can clearly see the
parallel green lines
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beam down from above,
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then flicker, and disappear
as quickly as they came.
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Astrophotography expert
Andrew McCarthy says
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some wonder if
these beams of light
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could be a directed
energy weapon.
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- Directed energy weapons
use concentrated energy,
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like from a laser,
instead of projectiles,
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to destroy a target.
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This technology was
first deployed
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in 2014 on the USS Ponce.
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- [Tony] The Ponce's
30-kilowatt infrared laser beam
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is a defensive weapon
that can fry sensors,
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burn out motors, and detonate
explosive materials.
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[explosion]
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It has demonstrated that
it can down a small drone
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in less than two seconds.
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- Since then, the US
has floated the idea
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of using space-based DEWs
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specifically to prevent
missile attacks.
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- [Tony] McCarthy
adds that technically
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the use of such weapons
for offensive purposes
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can be deemed illegal.
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- The Outer Space Treaty in 1967
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forbade the use of any
weapons of mass destruction,
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military bases, or
other weapons in space.
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However, many speculate
the militarization
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of space is already underway.
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- [Tony] Still, others question
if these strange lights
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could have a more alien origin.
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- What this video reminds
me of is a story from 1969
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in Berkshire County,
Massachusetts.
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There were 40 eyewitnesses
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that claimed to
see UFOs in the sky
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and that coincided
with abduction stories
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where people claimed
tractor beams,
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much like these
green laser beams,
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were used to abduct them.
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[gentle dramatic music]
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- The camera that
captured this footage
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is in a remote location,
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giving us a great
view of the skies.
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So did it livestream something
truly out of this world
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or something that could
alter the course of life
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on the planet?
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Our experts take a closer look.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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First, could this be
something natural,
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like the Northern Lights?
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- This is a level of uniformity
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that suggests this
is a technology.
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This is not a naturally
occurring phenomenon.
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Nature doesn't work with
that much uniformity.
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- [Tony] If this isn't natural,
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could these green
lights actually
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be some sort of alien
technology, like tractor beams?
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- There's nothing that's
characteristic of UFO sightings.
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There's nothing I see here
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that can't be accounted
for by Earth technology.
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- [Tony] So could this be
a directed energy weapon
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capable of shooting
at Earth from space?
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DEWs are meant to
pinpoint a target.
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So it's unlikely
beams from a weapon
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would've moved indiscriminately
across the sky like this.
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And these lasers didn't seem
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to destroy anything
in the process,
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so astronomer and
video effects designer
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Marc D'Antonio has his doubts.
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- At first glance,
you would think
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that this could potentially
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have some type of
military application,
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and that's not untrue.
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However, in-depth analysis shows
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that this is probably
a scientific endeavor.
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- There was some speculation
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that this was related to
NASA's ICESat-2 satellite.
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However, upon further
investigation,
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it turns out that the
NASA ICESat-2 satellite
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actually wasn't in
the area at that time.
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NASA did try to
determine what satellite
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may have been in that
particular region.
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And the satellite that
NASA was able to pinpoint
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based on trajectory measurements
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was the Chinese Daqi-1.
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- [Tony] The official
purpose of the Daqi-1
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is to use the laser-scanning
technology, known as lidar,
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to measure pollutants.
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But security expert
Richard Fisher worries
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that's not the only data
this device is gathering.
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- China's space program
is entirely dual use.
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Everything the
Chinese put into space
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is designed to produce
a military benefit.
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The environmental
monitoring satellite,
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Daqi-1, also measures,
very precisely,
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the density of the
atmosphere over the target,
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and this is crucial
information for China's latest
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hypersonic glide
vehicle armed missile.
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- Having accurate maps is
crucial in a warfare scenario.
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So certainly it's not beyond
the realm of possibility
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that data that's
being collected here
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could be used in a military
setting in the event of a war.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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- Our verdict, these green beams
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are pollution-detecting lidar
from a Chinese satellite,
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though there is a
chance these lasers
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may also have had a
more covert mission.
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This unusual pattern was
likely visible that day
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because it was filmed with
a special low-light camera,
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and dense atmospheric conditions
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caused the beams to
expand and scatter.
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[gentle dramatic music]
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Now let's get deep,
like deep underwater.
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We've covered many incidents
involving strange encounters
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between US Navy warships
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and unidentified
objects in the air.
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This story is about
a famous encounter
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with an unidentified
object in the ocean,
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and this one
allegedly had teeth.
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1978 on the Pacific
Ocean, the USS Stein,
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a US Navy destroyer escort,
is conducting routine tests,
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when suddenly the radar system
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responsible for identifying
submarine threats
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becomes inoperable.
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The Stein heads for land
and reaches dry dock
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where upon inspection
of the sonar dome,
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the engineers find this.
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This vintage film shows
the rubber no-foul coating
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of the sonar dome is shredded,
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with large tears as
big as four feet long.
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And what's more,
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embedded at the bottom of the
scratches are curved claws.
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- The USS Stein
incident has become
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one of the most famous incidents
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in the annals of cryptozoology
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that have to deal with a
possible unknown sea creature.
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And, of course, what's
really remarkable
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is that we have this
physical evidence
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of whatever it was that damaged
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this rubber no-foul coating.
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- [Tony] The no-foul coating
is specifically designed
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to create a smooth
nonstick surface
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so barnacles and other sea
creatures can't stick to it.
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- The navy called in
their top scientist,
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a marine biologist by
the name of F.G. Wood,
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in order to investigate
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and to examine these
strange tooth-like
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or claw-like structures
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that were embedded
in the rubber dome
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in order to see if
they could identify
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and equate them to any
type of known species.
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He concluded that they most
resembled the so-called teeth
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that lined the
suckers of squids.
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[water gurgling]
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- [Tony] The giant squid,
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a terrifying tale
amongst seafaring folk,
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that was widely
considered a myth.
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But after corpses started
to wash up on ocean shores,
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and a Japanese science team
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caught one on
camera back in 2012,
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it proved to be a real-life
monster of the deep.
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Scientists believe
these colossal creatures
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could grow up to 66 feet long.
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- Giant squid, in addition
to their eight tentacles,
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they have these two
incredibly long predatory arms
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with hooks or teeth
in its suckers
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to grasp and tear prey apart.
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Upon examination of these teeth,
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F.G. Wood determined that the
squid that left them behind
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would be somewhere
in the neighborhood
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of 150 feet in length,
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which essentially is
about half the height
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of the Statue of Liberty.
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We know that invertebrates
are pretty much unlimited
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in terms of growth potential,
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particularly in the deep ocean.
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- [Tony] But there is
another possibility,
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very real and very ugly,
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the frightful fish once
thought to be extinct,
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the frilled shark.
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- Until recent years,
it was safe to conclude
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that the frilled shark had
gone the way of the megalodon.
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- [Tony] This was
mainly due to the rarity
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of sightings of the
deep sea creature.
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But new research is showing
that this population
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is alive and thriving,
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and Gerhard says the
teeth of these sharks
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match the evidence.
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- The frilled shark
has 25 rows of teeth.
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And the fact that we found
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so many of these
tooth-like structures
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embedded in the no-foul
dome of the USS Stein
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would indicate that a frilled
shark is one possibility.
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- In 2014, two
Greenpeace submariners
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had their own "20,000 Leagues
Under the Sea" experience
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when a squad of red devil
squid attacked their vessel.
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So, we know they can
get aggressive with
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manmade sea craft.
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Could a belligerent sea
creature be responsible
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for what happened
to the USS Stein?
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We let our experts
dig their teeth in.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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Could the damage be
from the frilled shark
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as Gerhard suggests?
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- I don't see the
types of tooth marks
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that I would expect to
see from a frilled shark.
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We would see evidence
of serrated teeth.
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The way that a shark bites
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is by grabbing onto
something with its mouth,
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and then using the
serrations in its teeth
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to tear through the flesh
of that animal or object.
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- [Tony] And as for
those claw-like fragments
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found stuck in the sonar dome.
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- This could be the claw
of some kind of cephalopod.
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It's absolutely possible
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that this could have
been a giant squid.
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Giant squid and sperm
whales are known enemies.
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I wonder if this wasn't
some sort of a giant squid
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that thought this sonar device
was actually a sperm whale
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trying to echolocate and
it attacked the boat.
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- [Tony] So the giant
squid theory is seaworthy.
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But remember that by
Wood's calculations,
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this squid would have
to be 150 feet long.
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Impossible? Think again.
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- The idea that there's a
giant squid in our ocean
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that is much larger than any
other documented specimen
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is totally possible.
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We've only found a
few of these animals
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'cause they live in a
deep ocean environment.
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But when a large animal
dies in the deep sea
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because there's so
much water pressure,
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they almost immediately sink
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and we probably
would never see them.
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So imagine how
many unique animals
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are living and dying
in our oceans today
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that we've just
never encountered,
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and this could be one of them.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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- Our verdict, we're going
with a potential giant squid.
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Our experts back up the navy
scientist's original theory.
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The damage left on the ship
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seems to indicate a giant squid,
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but one that would have
to be on a monstrous scale
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unlike any squid
ever seen before.
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- We are always
talking about Bigfoot
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potentially being the missing
link between ape and man,
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but we never consider
if, over the millennia,
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Bigfoot itself has evolved
into a new subspecies.
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Could this next story be
proof of such an offshoot?
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June 1st, 2005, the Parc des
Sept-Chutes in Quebec, Canada.
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Louie, a construction
truck driver,
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was taking photos while
on a hike in the park.
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When he gets home, he looks
at the images he's captured,
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when he sees this.
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The figure is in the shadows.
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But as we crop the image
and lighten the area,
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it sure looks like
this thing has a snout
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and is carrying something white.
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Amazingly, the
creature appears to be
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staring at the photographer
who doesn't notice it.
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Field researcher Cliff Barackman
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points out some key features
of the creature in this image.
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- I like the color of the
figure in this photograph.
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It turns out if you
have a Sasquatch hair
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and you backlight it,
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they all shine red.
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Under the forest canopy,
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the sunlight is filtered by the
leaves in the foliage above,
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and the first
wavelengths of light
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to disappear are
the red wavelengths.
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Anything red under the canopy,
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like a Sasquatch,
would appear black.
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- [Tony] And while
some suggested
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this could be a Bigfoot,
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others believe this could
be something new altogether.
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- Some people in the Bigfoot
community look at this picture
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and say it's a more
baboon-like species
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with a more prominent
prognathism,
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a jutting forward of the jaw.
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Maybe it's a new
species of Sasquatch.
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They've even put the
name Gugwe on it,
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which is a local term used
in this part of the country.
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- [Tony] Some say this Gugwe
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is a much more
ferocious Bigfoot,
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and that this white
object is actually a dog
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about to become its next meal.
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Supposedly, the day before
the image was taken,
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a woman's small dog had gone
missing and was never found.
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- Sasquatch would shift their
diet over to meat eating
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for probably most of the winter.
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Frankly, if you're making
your living out there
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eating whatever moves,
crawls, or slithers,
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you can't be too picky.
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- Bigfoot made
Canadian headlines,
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when, in 2018, a
believer's lawsuit
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claiming that British
Columbia failed in its duty
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to recognize the
legendary creature
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was dismissed by the courts.
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But now, could
this picture prove
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there is a large,
aggressive apex creature
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hunting in the woods in Quebec?
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We turned to our
experts to find out.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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Biologist Floyd Hayes
looks into whether this
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could be the misidentification
of a Canadian bear.
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- The only bear that lives
in Quebec is the black bear.
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But in this image,
we're seeing something
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that looks like
there's too much white
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in the middle of the
body and up in the head.
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And bears also don't
carry an object
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in a single arm like that.
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The head looks
more like a baboon.
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- [Tony] A baboon in
the Great White North?
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- It doesn't make sense
for it to be a monkey,
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because this is in Canada.
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There are no primates
in this area.
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Monkeys can't
survive in the cold.
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There's only one
species of monkey
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that can live in the cold,
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and they are the ones
that use the hot springs
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to help them through the winter.
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- [Tony] If it isn't a baboon,
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could it be a large
primate, like a Bigfoot?
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- You cannot clearly
make out a primate.
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It's really pixelated.
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And then, we also don't have
other supporting evidence,
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like tracks, scat,
nests, things like that.
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- [Tony] And according to Manka,
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even if this were a
primate of some kind,
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it's highly unlikely that
a dog would be its prey.
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- Most primates feed
on meat sporadically
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or opportunistically,
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and it makes up less
than 1% of the diet
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of almost all 89
primate species.
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- [Tony] Dr. Manka believes
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this could be an
example of pareidolia,
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people seeing patterns that
resemble something familiar
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to them and who want to
believe that's what it is.
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- I can see how people can
make out an animal shape,
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but it really doesn't
have the level of detail
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to be seen as a
baboon-like animal.
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That's really lending a
lot to the imagination.
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It looks a lot like a
dead tree, a tree stump.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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- So our experts think this
is just a piece of the forest,
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like a tree stump.
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And although we're
not 100% certain,
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we're inclined to agree.
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Many in the Bigfoot community
remain highly interested
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in the possibility of more
evidence from this area.
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If you, or someone you know
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has more images or
videos of the Gugwe,
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please contact us.
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- A ring of strange
lights in the sky
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is an odd sight in itself,
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but when it's seemingly buzzing
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and not far from an infamous
US government laboratory,
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well, you just know we
have to investigate.
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August 3rd, 2015, just after
10:00 PM, Misty Strevel,
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along with her daughter
and another passenger,
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are driving on a highway
in Knoxville, Tennessee,
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when Misty's daughter sees a
strange sight in the night sky.
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- She's like, "Mom,
what are those red
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and green lights in the sky?"
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And, first thought, I'm
like, "It's an airplane."
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That is weird.
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- [Daughter] Dude, it's buzzing.
- [Misty] It sure is.
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- [Tony] Misty captures a light
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floating in a sea of darkness.
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But as we zoom in,
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something even more
interesting can be seen.
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It's not just one light, but,
in fact, a ring of lights.
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- [Misty] You know
what the crazy thing?
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The lights, on this,
it's showing white,
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but that's all red and green.
- [Daughter] Yeah.
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- It was maybe 50 feet
above the used car lot sign.
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It was just, I've never
seen anything like it.
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- [Passenger] A UFO, y'all.
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- [Daughter] Holy...
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- [Passenger] Space
people coming to us.
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- [Tony] If this is a UFO,
writer Amy Teitel says
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it wouldn't be the
first to be seen
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over this part of
Eastern Tennessee.
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- Knoxville has a really
interesting history with UFOs
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dating back to the
Second World War,
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when the Oak Ridge
National Laboratory
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was founded about half
an hour outside the city.
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- [Tony] During World War II,
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Oak Ridge was
cloaked in secrecy.
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Its purpose was to
enrich uranium
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for the Manhattan Project
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and Robert Oppenheimer's
atomic bomb.
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[explosion blasts]
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- There were some
strange phenomena
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that happened in the area
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a few years after
it was established.
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In October of 1950, William Fry,
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who is the assistant chief
of security at the lab,
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saw a bright, glowing light
over the movie theater in town.
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It flashed red and green
before finally disappearing.
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10 minutes later,
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U.S. Air Force Major
Lawrence Ballweg
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saw the same thing
from his house.
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Though both witnesses
were extremely credible,
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neither of these
sightings was ever solved.
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[suspenseful music]
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- What's even more eerie?
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Seven years after
Misty's encounter,
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a similar ring of lights
appeared again in 2022.
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So is what Misty
saw a real-deal UFO?
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Let's see what
our experts think.
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[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
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We begin with physicist
Matthew Szydagis.
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Is it possible that
taking into account
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Oak Ridge's classified past,
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this light is a secret
craft connected to the base?
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- Oak Ridge National Laboratory
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is focused on nuclear
physics, not aerospace.
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Oak Ridge is not Area
51 or Groom Lake.
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Moreover, you can't just
fly secret craft anywhere.
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These craft are going to be
tested at specific ranges,
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usually in the
middle of nowhere.
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- [Tony] If it's not secret
US government technology,
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is it possible
these eyewitnesses
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were right on target?
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- [Passenger] A UFO, y'all.
- [Daughter] Holy...
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- [Passenger] Space
people coming to us.
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- Obviously something is flying,
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but we don't see the
extreme behaviors
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that oftentime get
attributed to UFOs.
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Misty reports to have seen
lights that are red and green,
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in addition to the
white light that we see.
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- [Misty] The lights, on
this, it's showing white,
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but that's all red and green.
- [Daughter] Yeah.
501
00:21:44,417 --> 00:21:45,750
- [Tony] That matters,
502
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:47,917
because the FAA requires
navigation lights
503
00:21:47,917 --> 00:21:50,875
to be red on the left
wing, green on the right,
504
00:21:50,875 --> 00:21:52,250
and white on the tail.
505
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:54,625
Seems unlikely aliens
would take pains
506
00:21:54,625 --> 00:21:57,333
to comply with FAA regulations.
507
00:21:57,333 --> 00:22:00,750
Still, Hernandez believes
this isn't an airplane.
508
00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:02,917
- It was a hot summer
day across Knoxville.
509
00:22:02,917 --> 00:22:04,542
The winds overall were calm,
510
00:22:04,542 --> 00:22:07,625
which were excellent for flying
drones this specific day.
511
00:22:07,625 --> 00:22:09,833
We hear the noise
of the propellers.
512
00:22:11,083 --> 00:22:13,542
Very confident that what we're
looking at here is a drone.
513
00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:16,500
- [Tony] But Szydagis says
514
00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:18,542
don't let your eyes
and ears fool you.
515
00:22:18,542 --> 00:22:21,042
- I can explain the noise
516
00:22:21,042 --> 00:22:24,125
as simply background noise
517
00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:25,375
of a noisy environment,
518
00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:29,292
and it's impossible
to judge the distance
519
00:22:29,292 --> 00:22:31,375
to an object and its speed,
520
00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:35,042
especially at night with
no reference points.
521
00:22:35,042 --> 00:22:38,375
An object that is small
and close to a camera
522
00:22:38,375 --> 00:22:41,375
will look the same
size in the camera lens
523
00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:44,708
as an object that is
both larger and far away.
524
00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,583
- [Tony] That's why
Szydagis actually thinks
525
00:22:46,583 --> 00:22:48,542
this could be a balloon.
526
00:22:48,542 --> 00:22:51,458
- I think this is a very
special kind of balloon.
527
00:22:51,458 --> 00:22:54,708
I believe that what
we are seeing here
528
00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:58,750
is part of something called
the Google Loon Project.
529
00:22:59,833 --> 00:23:01,917
- [Tony] Loon was
Google's experiment
530
00:23:01,917 --> 00:23:03,250
to provide internet access
531
00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,500
to rural and remote
areas across the globe.
532
00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:07,625
The company used
high-altitude balloons
533
00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:09,958
about 12 miles up
in the stratosphere
534
00:23:09,958 --> 00:23:12,875
to create an aerial
wireless network.
535
00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:16,125
It's a plausible theory,
but Hernandez disagrees.
536
00:23:16,125 --> 00:23:17,708
- Obviously, we can see this,
537
00:23:17,708 --> 00:23:20,875
but Project Loon balloons
are fairly hard to notice
538
00:23:20,875 --> 00:23:23,958
given that they're about
65,000 feet above the surface,
539
00:23:23,958 --> 00:23:26,833
much higher than a
commercial jet liner,
540
00:23:26,833 --> 00:23:30,417
and would be moving fairly
fast with the jet stream.
541
00:23:30,792 --> 00:23:32,583
We don't see that
kind of motion here.
542
00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:37,625
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
543
00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:41,417
- Wow, both of our experts
make compelling arguments
544
00:23:41,417 --> 00:23:43,750
for two completely
different things.
545
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:48,458
So our verdict, for now,
we're going with genuine UFO,
546
00:23:48,458 --> 00:23:50,042
though we certainly can't
say it's an alien craft.
547
00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:57,000
- Over the years, we've
investigated several recordings
548
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,875
of alleged Bigfoot sounds.
549
00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:02,250
Some have turned out
to be amateurish fakes.
550
00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:04,500
We debunked those easily.
551
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,792
But not this one,
give it a listen.
552
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:10,958
It's the night of
July 2nd, 2022.
553
00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:12,667
In Loudonville, Ohio,
554
00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,125
Bigfoot Field Research
Organization Member
555
00:24:15,125 --> 00:24:17,500
Suzanne Ferencak is with friends
556
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,458
watching some early fireworks.
557
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:22,292
Around 10:00 PM, they
hear something strange.
558
00:24:22,292 --> 00:24:24,083
- When there was a quiet time,
559
00:24:24,083 --> 00:24:26,792
all five of us heard some howls.
560
00:24:26,792 --> 00:24:29,708
Immediately, we're quiet
and looked at each other,
561
00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:31,333
like, "What was that?"
562
00:24:31,333 --> 00:24:32,542
You know, it was
just kind of like,
563
00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:34,500
"Okay, ears up, maybe
there's something
564
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:36,208
to pay attention to."
565
00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,375
- [Tony] Later that night,
566
00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:40,083
Suzanne hears the
same howls again,
567
00:24:40,083 --> 00:24:42,208
but this time she's recording.
568
00:24:42,208 --> 00:24:45,542
[creature howling]
569
00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,750
A quiet howl,
increasing in pitch,
570
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:49,458
is followed by another one.
571
00:24:49,458 --> 00:24:52,458
[creature howling]
572
00:24:54,375 --> 00:24:58,375
- This was at 3:42 AM,
I heard these howls,
573
00:24:58,375 --> 00:24:59,833
and they sounded
similar to the ones
574
00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:03,042
that we had heard about
10 o'clock that night.
575
00:25:03,042 --> 00:25:06,542
I was excited that I finally
got something decent.
576
00:25:06,542 --> 00:25:09,292
At least, you know,
I think I did.
577
00:25:09,292 --> 00:25:12,125
[creature howling]
578
00:25:14,375 --> 00:25:16,375
- Suzanne's hometown
of Loudonville
579
00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:18,375
is in a rural stretch of Ohio,
580
00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,917
located right next to
Mohican State Park,
581
00:25:20,917 --> 00:25:23,083
home to thousands
of wooden acres.
582
00:25:23,083 --> 00:25:24,875
- Many, many sighting
reports come out
583
00:25:24,875 --> 00:25:28,375
of the immediate vicinity near
Suzanne's property,
584
00:25:28,375 --> 00:25:30,875
and for several
miles in all directions.
585
00:25:30,875 --> 00:25:33,708
There is corn here
for much of the year.
586
00:25:33,708 --> 00:25:36,750
And that corn not only gives
Sasquatches and other animals
587
00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:39,167
places to hide and a
possible food source,
588
00:25:39,167 --> 00:25:41,125
but it brings in the deer,
589
00:25:41,125 --> 00:25:45,542
the key to why Sasquatches might
be in this particular area.
590
00:25:45,542 --> 00:25:46,792
- [Tony] That's
because Barackman,
591
00:25:46,792 --> 00:25:48,583
and other Sasquatch researchers,
592
00:25:48,583 --> 00:25:50,708
believe the creatures
are omnivores,
593
00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:53,000
eating meat, as
well as vegetables.
594
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,417
And Barackman vouches
for Suzanne herself.
595
00:25:55,417 --> 00:25:57,542
- Suzanne is a
friend, I know her.
596
00:25:57,542 --> 00:26:00,042
So we have a recording here
597
00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:04,792
that I don't have to question
the motivation of the witness.
598
00:26:04,792 --> 00:26:08,125
So the only question left
here is what makes that noise?
599
00:26:08,125 --> 00:26:11,042
[creature howling]
600
00:26:11,042 --> 00:26:12,458
[suspenseful music]
601
00:26:13,042 --> 00:26:15,042
- This recording is
the latest in the trove
602
00:26:15,042 --> 00:26:18,708
of Ohio Bigfoot materials
we've investigated,
603
00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:21,875
including these famous
1994 Ohio howls,
604
00:26:21,875 --> 00:26:24,042
recorded by Matt Moneymaker.
605
00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:26,375
They didn't match
any local animals.
606
00:26:26,375 --> 00:26:29,458
[creature howling]
607
00:26:29,458 --> 00:26:32,042
So Ohio's a hotspot for sure.
608
00:26:32,042 --> 00:26:34,750
Let's see if our
experts think this sound
609
00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:36,083
could be the real deal.
610
00:26:36,083 --> 00:26:40,625
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
611
00:26:40,625 --> 00:26:43,375
First, forensic audio
analyst Rob Maher
612
00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,542
authenticates the recording.
613
00:26:45,542 --> 00:26:48,583
[creature howling]
614
00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:51,708
- The background sounds
are consistent throughout,
615
00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:54,333
and the unknown sounds
are very prominent
616
00:26:54,333 --> 00:26:57,208
in the section of the recording
where they're present.
617
00:26:57,208 --> 00:26:59,750
So it seems to be an
authentic recording.
618
00:26:59,750 --> 00:27:02,375
- [Tony] So we know
it's not a fake.
619
00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:04,625
Could these be the
howls of coyotes?
620
00:27:04,625 --> 00:27:07,250
[coyote barking and howling]
621
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:09,208
Coyotes aren't native to Ohio,
622
00:27:09,208 --> 00:27:12,708
but their population exploded
in the early 20th century
623
00:27:12,708 --> 00:27:15,333
when settlers exterminated
their main predator,
624
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:16,875
the gray wolf.
625
00:27:16,875 --> 00:27:19,167
- If we look at a recording
of an actual coyote,
626
00:27:19,167 --> 00:27:23,750
they have a very distinctive
rising frequency to begin with,
627
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:26,708
and then continue on more
of a sustained pitch.
628
00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:29,625
[coyote howling]
629
00:27:31,042 --> 00:27:32,792
The frequency is a little higher
630
00:27:32,792 --> 00:27:35,500
than what we observed
in the Ohio recording.
631
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,167
[coyote howling]
632
00:27:40,083 --> 00:27:43,458
[creature howling]
633
00:27:43,458 --> 00:27:45,208
So although this is similar,
634
00:27:45,208 --> 00:27:47,875
there are some significant
differences here.
635
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:51,042
- [Tony] So if it's not a
coyote, could it be Bigfoot?
636
00:27:51,042 --> 00:27:53,958
- To my ear, it's very
reminiscent of the whoop
637
00:27:53,958 --> 00:27:56,750
produced by gibbons
and siamangs.
638
00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:59,542
[siamang whooping]
639
00:27:59,542 --> 00:28:02,042
They have this
inflatable throat sac
640
00:28:02,042 --> 00:28:05,083
that serves as a
resonating chamber
641
00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:09,625
for projecting these
extremely loud whoops
642
00:28:09,625 --> 00:28:11,208
that carry through the forest.
643
00:28:11,208 --> 00:28:14,083
I have suggested that
if Sasquatch nests
644
00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:17,083
within this family of primates,
645
00:28:17,083 --> 00:28:21,333
they may as well possess
these extra laryngeal sacs.
646
00:28:22,583 --> 00:28:24,375
- [Tony] Maher goes
with the Bigfoot theory,
647
00:28:24,375 --> 00:28:26,042
and decides to test this audio
648
00:28:26,042 --> 00:28:30,042
against the 1971 Sierra
Sounds from California,
649
00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:32,792
believed by some to be
a genuine Sasquatch.
650
00:28:32,792 --> 00:28:35,125
- The Sierra Sound that's
attributed to Bigfoot
651
00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:39,000
has a rising sound and
then sort of a whoop.
652
00:28:39,458 --> 00:28:43,083
[creature howls and whoops]
653
00:28:44,708 --> 00:28:46,208
The initial rise we see here
654
00:28:46,208 --> 00:28:49,292
from the 300 or 400
hertz frequency range
655
00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,500
is very similar to the
Ohio Sound recording.
656
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:55,125
The last part of the
utterance from this recording
657
00:28:55,125 --> 00:28:57,708
that has the whoop at the end
658
00:28:57,708 --> 00:28:59,875
is not present in
the Ohio recording.
659
00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:03,875
[creature howls and whoops]
660
00:29:03,875 --> 00:29:07,500
[creature howling]
661
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,833
So although the first part
of this is very similar
662
00:29:09,833 --> 00:29:11,500
to what's observed,
663
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,500
the second part is different.
664
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,583
- [Tony] But how about
that other famous Ohio howl
665
00:29:16,583 --> 00:29:17,583
we told you about?
666
00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:20,625
[creature howling]
667
00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:22,708
- If we compare
the Ohio recording
668
00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:26,292
to the recordings
from Matt Moneymaker,
669
00:29:26,292 --> 00:29:29,000
we can see the fundamental
frequencies here
670
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,708
are approximately in
the same vicinity.
671
00:29:31,708 --> 00:29:34,750
[creature howling]
672
00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:39,375
[creature howling]
673
00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:41,167
So the characteristics here
674
00:29:41,167 --> 00:29:44,042
seem to occupy the
right frequency range
675
00:29:44,042 --> 00:29:47,375
between this example recording
and the Ohio recording.
676
00:29:47,375 --> 00:29:50,417
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
677
00:29:51,917 --> 00:29:55,375
- Our verdict, we're going
with possible Bigfoot sounds,
678
00:29:55,375 --> 00:29:58,750
but that's as far as we
feel comfortable going.
679
00:29:58,750 --> 00:30:01,542
While Suzanne's recordings
aren't a close match
680
00:30:01,542 --> 00:30:03,042
with the famous Sierra Sounds,
681
00:30:03,042 --> 00:30:05,250
they do possess
many similarities
682
00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:09,500
to Matt Moneymaker's 1994
howls, also recorded in Ohio.
683
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:12,292
So maybe she finally did
capture the call of the big guy.
684
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:20,833
- Can spirits of the dead
contact us from beyond?
685
00:30:20,833 --> 00:30:24,125
One man in Texas says, "Yes."
686
00:30:24,125 --> 00:30:27,625
And he says this next video
from his home security camera
687
00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:29,333
is what made him a believer.
688
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:33,250
November 2020, Cypress, Texas.
689
00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:35,208
It's a quiet night
in this community
690
00:30:36,542 --> 00:30:37,500
about 30 miles outside Houston.
691
00:30:37,667 --> 00:30:39,958
But then, an infrared
security camera
692
00:30:39,958 --> 00:30:43,208
alerts a slumbering
Chip Byas-Ortega
693
00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:46,292
that something unusual is
going on outside his house.
694
00:30:46,292 --> 00:30:49,125
- We have several
motion-activated cameras
695
00:30:49,125 --> 00:30:51,125
set up around our home.
696
00:30:51,125 --> 00:30:53,583
This night, they started ringing
697
00:30:53,583 --> 00:30:56,125
at about 3:30 in the morning,
698
00:30:56,125 --> 00:30:59,208
and something told me,
"Get up and look at this."
699
00:30:59,208 --> 00:31:02,083
- [Tony] Chip checks out
the footage and finds this.
700
00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:06,792
At first glance, nothing
seems out of the ordinary,
701
00:31:06,792 --> 00:31:08,375
but look again.
702
00:31:08,375 --> 00:31:11,625
On the right side of the video
is a small ball of light.
703
00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:13,875
It hovers swirling
back and forth.
704
00:31:13,875 --> 00:31:17,375
A smaller secondary orb
appears above the main orb
705
00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:20,958
for a split second,
and then disappears.
706
00:31:20,958 --> 00:31:24,500
- I am, first of all, blown away
707
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,458
that I have right in front
of you on this video,
708
00:31:27,458 --> 00:31:30,208
a dancing, huge orb.
709
00:31:30,208 --> 00:31:32,000
It's unexplainable to me.
710
00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:35,375
- [Tony] Chip believes this
may have been an encounter
711
00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:37,958
with the ghost of a
loved one who's died.
712
00:31:37,958 --> 00:31:40,125
- My Aunt Clara and
I would always talk
713
00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:45,042
about after we pass, I want
a sign, do something for me.
714
00:31:45,042 --> 00:31:47,875
Aunt Clara would say, "Oh,
you'll know when I'm here."
715
00:31:48,750 --> 00:31:50,583
So, Aunt Clara, hey.
716
00:31:51,958 --> 00:31:54,375
- [Tony] Texas has its
own mysterious history
717
00:31:54,375 --> 00:31:55,542
with glowing orbs.
718
00:31:55,542 --> 00:31:58,042
And as journalist
Alexis Brooks tells us,
719
00:31:58,042 --> 00:32:02,333
these ethereal balls of light
have a name, spirit orbs.
720
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:05,500
- Spirit orbs are
these balls of energy
721
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,375
that are intelligent.
722
00:32:07,375 --> 00:32:08,667
In the 1900s,
723
00:32:08,667 --> 00:32:10,542
there was another case
724
00:32:10,542 --> 00:32:12,667
that plagued East Texas,
725
00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:14,875
known as the Light of Saratoga.
726
00:32:14,875 --> 00:32:17,750
Legend has it that this railman
727
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:20,208
was in a very, very
horrible accident,
728
00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:22,042
was actually decapitated.
729
00:32:22,042 --> 00:32:25,000
And it's believed that
the ghost of this brakeman
730
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,375
is actually searching
for his decapitated head,
731
00:32:27,375 --> 00:32:30,708
and it's his lantern
that looks to be an orb
732
00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:32,792
sort of traveling
down the tracks.
733
00:32:32,792 --> 00:32:34,625
[suspenseful music]
734
00:32:35,875 --> 00:32:37,375
- You may remember
when we covered
735
00:32:37,375 --> 00:32:40,042
the Marfa Lights
from West Texas,
736
00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:42,542
bright orbs that have
mystified eyewitnesses.
737
00:32:42,542 --> 00:32:46,542
We weren't able to determine
the cause for that light show.
738
00:32:46,542 --> 00:32:48,667
Could this more
intimate spirit orb
739
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:52,083
help explain what's lighting
up the Lone Star State?
740
00:32:52,083 --> 00:32:54,417
It's time to
conjure our experts.
741
00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:59,042
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
742
00:32:59,042 --> 00:33:01,667
We begin with forensic video
analyst Michael Primeau
743
00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:03,208
to answer our first question,
744
00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:06,000
is this security camera
footage even authentic?
745
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,917
- Through a structural analysis,
746
00:33:07,917 --> 00:33:09,833
we were able to
identify the signature
747
00:33:09,833 --> 00:33:11,625
from the Blink camera app.
748
00:33:11,625 --> 00:33:13,833
Through a manual comparison
of that structural data
749
00:33:13,833 --> 00:33:15,667
with other known Blink exhibits,
750
00:33:15,667 --> 00:33:19,250
no editing signatures, no
third-party signatures, no CGI.
751
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:22,167
So, yes, this video is real.
752
00:33:23,208 --> 00:33:24,708
- [Tony] If what
we're seeing is real,
753
00:33:24,708 --> 00:33:27,917
could the glow of these orbs
be from a nearby light source,
754
00:33:27,917 --> 00:33:29,708
like the passing cars?
755
00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:32,625
- When headlights appear,
the orbs are still there.
756
00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:35,208
When the headlights disappear,
the orbs are still there.
757
00:33:35,208 --> 00:33:37,333
They're also not in alignment
with those headlights.
758
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:41,042
So it doesn't appear
to be headlights.
759
00:33:41,042 --> 00:33:42,875
- [Tony] Perhaps our
lights aren't emitting
760
00:33:42,875 --> 00:33:44,583
from an artificial source.
761
00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:47,250
But what about a natural
one, like fireflies?
762
00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:51,042
- Fireflies that you see in
some areas of the country,
763
00:33:51,042 --> 00:33:53,417
flash, but they flash
by flashing on and off.
764
00:33:53,417 --> 00:33:55,042
They don't really
flash in the way
765
00:33:55,042 --> 00:33:57,583
that this appears
to be flashing.
766
00:33:57,583 --> 00:33:59,458
- [Tony] How about a moth?
767
00:33:59,458 --> 00:34:01,958
- Typically you would see the
wings moving if it was a moth.
768
00:34:01,958 --> 00:34:04,375
I don't see any
wings flapping here.
769
00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:06,708
I think this is something
we actually fairly often
770
00:34:06,708 --> 00:34:10,792
on security camera footage,
which is a spiderweb.
771
00:34:10,792 --> 00:34:12,208
- [Tony] A thread of spiderweb
772
00:34:12,208 --> 00:34:15,083
can be just three thousandths
of a millimeter across,
773
00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:17,958
that's thinner than a
strand of human hair.
774
00:34:17,958 --> 00:34:19,333
That's why we don't see the web,
775
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:21,958
just a byproduct left behind.
776
00:34:21,958 --> 00:34:24,250
- If there's a
spot on the strand,
777
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:27,542
which sometimes is a spot
of the spider's glue,
778
00:34:27,542 --> 00:34:30,542
that will reflect the light
from the infrared camera.
779
00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:33,458
- [Tony] Spider glue is a
substance in the spider's glands
780
00:34:33,458 --> 00:34:35,667
that makes the lines
of the web sticky
781
00:34:35,667 --> 00:34:38,167
by absorbing water
from the atmosphere.
782
00:34:38,167 --> 00:34:41,542
West says this orb isn't
yards away from the camera,
783
00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:42,667
merely inches.
784
00:34:42,667 --> 00:34:45,208
- Here's the camera,
here's the spider silk,
785
00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:47,542
just like one or two
inches in front of it.
786
00:34:47,542 --> 00:34:50,417
So it's just kind
of drifting around,
787
00:34:50,417 --> 00:34:53,000
and it just gradually
moves across the scene,
788
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,500
and then back again.
789
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,000
- [Tony] And take a look at
another security cam video.
790
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,500
Here we see a spider
actually weaving a web,
791
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,542
and leaving the same
type of orbs behind.
792
00:35:02,458 --> 00:35:05,542
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
793
00:35:06,875 --> 00:35:09,125
Our verdict, spiderweb.
794
00:35:09,125 --> 00:35:11,625
Much as nature intended,
795
00:35:11,625 --> 00:35:13,042
this near-invisible silk
796
00:35:13,042 --> 00:35:15,708
has us caught in
its phantom thread.
797
00:35:15,708 --> 00:35:18,167
But we certainly hope
the spirit of Aunt Clara
798
00:35:18,167 --> 00:35:19,083
stays with Chip forever.
799
00:35:23,292 --> 00:35:25,042
But we certainly hope
thbeginning of flight,ra- e
800
00:35:25,042 --> 00:35:26,958
we think of the Wright
Brothers' success
801
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,625
with their twin-propeller plane
802
00:35:28,625 --> 00:35:32,250
in Kitty Hawk, North
Carolina, in 1903.
803
00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:33,667
But five years earlier,
804
00:35:33,667 --> 00:35:36,208
there was a discovery
in North Africa
805
00:35:36,208 --> 00:35:38,958
that has experts asking if
the first flying machine
806
00:35:38,958 --> 00:35:41,750
was invented thousands
of years earlier.
807
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:46,542
Saqqara, Egypt, 1898,
in a vast burial site
808
00:35:47,375 --> 00:35:48,833
near the country's
oldest step pyramid,
809
00:35:48,833 --> 00:35:52,750
archaeologists make a unique
and confounding find.
810
00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:54,458
This 2,200-year-old carving
811
00:35:54,458 --> 00:35:56,417
that looks like a model airplane
812
00:35:56,417 --> 00:35:58,625
is known as the Saqqara Bird.
813
00:35:59,667 --> 00:36:02,208
- The Saqqara Bird
is a small figurine
814
00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:05,292
that was excavated from
the tomb of Pa-di-Imen.
815
00:36:05,292 --> 00:36:07,292
It's about 5 1/2 inches long
816
00:36:07,292 --> 00:36:10,292
with a wingspan almost
over seven inches,
817
00:36:10,292 --> 00:36:12,542
weighs in at about 1 1/2 ounces,
818
00:36:12,542 --> 00:36:15,458
and it's made of
sycamore and maple wood.
819
00:36:15,458 --> 00:36:18,250
- [Tony] Most experts think
it's a model of a bird.
820
00:36:18,250 --> 00:36:21,042
And for years it was kept
with other ancient bird art
821
00:36:21,042 --> 00:36:23,250
in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.
822
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,792
But when it was
rediscovered in 1969
823
00:36:25,792 --> 00:36:30,083
by Egyptologist Khalil Messiha
in a box of old exhibits,
824
00:36:30,083 --> 00:36:32,625
a new more radical
theory emerged.
825
00:36:32,625 --> 00:36:36,083
- All the characteristics of
this model are more intrinsic
826
00:36:36,083 --> 00:36:39,208
to a modern-day airplane
than that of a bird.
827
00:36:39,208 --> 00:36:42,500
Its aerodynamic precision,
and shape of the wing,
828
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:45,083
and fuselage all seem
to have similarities
829
00:36:45,083 --> 00:36:46,875
to modern engineering.
830
00:36:46,875 --> 00:36:48,042
- [Tony] Messiha also noted
831
00:36:48,042 --> 00:36:50,583
that typical ancient
Egyptian bird models
832
00:36:50,583 --> 00:36:52,333
have their wings folded back,
833
00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:55,083
and also have legs
and painted feathers,
834
00:36:55,083 --> 00:36:57,125
but the Saqqara Bird does not.
835
00:36:57,125 --> 00:36:58,375
This led him to believe
836
00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:00,750
that this was a scale
model of a glider,
837
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:04,292
albeit, one that was
lacking a key component.
838
00:37:04,292 --> 00:37:07,000
- There seems to be a
missing 90-degree tail
839
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
that has yet to be discovered.
840
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,750
And you can see
that there's a notch
841
00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:13,000
that may have contained
that at some point.
842
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,792
Some researchers looked at
the rear end of this craft
843
00:37:15,792 --> 00:37:18,500
and said without
that missing tail fin,
844
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:20,125
this wouldn't have
the aerodynamics
845
00:37:20,125 --> 00:37:21,833
to have capable flight.
846
00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:24,375
- [Tony] Yet, Messiha claimed
the back of the glider
847
00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:27,708
could serve as a rudder
to keep it going straight.
848
00:37:27,708 --> 00:37:29,958
Still, how could
the people of Egypt
849
00:37:29,958 --> 00:37:31,875
have such advanced aeronautics
850
00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:35,375
more than two millennia
before the first plane?
851
00:37:35,375 --> 00:37:39,542
Is it possible they learned
it from extraterrestrials?
852
00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:42,042
Well, British astronomer
Charles Piazzi Smyth
853
00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:45,292
believed the Egyptians used
the Great Pyramid of Cheops
854
00:37:45,292 --> 00:37:47,375
as an astronomical observatory,
855
00:37:47,375 --> 00:37:48,750
and there's evidence
they charted
856
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:51,750
what they saw in the
skies on their tombs.
857
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:54,208
So did the ancient Egyptians
gain more knowledge
858
00:37:54,208 --> 00:37:56,292
from their observations
than we'll ever know?
859
00:37:56,292 --> 00:37:57,750
- This is one of
the many reasons
860
00:37:57,750 --> 00:38:00,792
why the Saqqara Bird
could be so controversial.
861
00:38:00,792 --> 00:38:02,458
[dramatic music]
862
00:38:03,292 --> 00:38:05,250
- The Egyptian
Ministry of Culture
863
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,042
created an entire committee
864
00:38:07,042 --> 00:38:09,750
to investigate
Messiha's findings,
865
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:12,708
and agreed the Saqqara
Bird does display
866
00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:15,625
advanced principles
of aircraft design.
867
00:38:15,625 --> 00:38:18,583
So is the Saqqara Bird proof
868
00:38:18,583 --> 00:38:21,542
of an ancient Egyptian
technology lost to time
869
00:38:21,542 --> 00:38:24,583
like its advanced
pyramid building skills?
870
00:38:24,583 --> 00:38:26,208
Let's see if our experts
871
00:38:26,208 --> 00:38:28,542
can shake a tail
feather on this one.
872
00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:32,708
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
873
00:38:32,708 --> 00:38:36,167
So the big question here is
can this thing really fly?
874
00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:38,375
Aerodynamics expert
Simon Sanderson
875
00:38:38,375 --> 00:38:41,333
has long been fascinated
by the Saqqara Bird.
876
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:44,458
In 2006, he built a
replica five times larger
877
00:38:44,458 --> 00:38:47,750
than the original carving to
test its flight worthiness.
878
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:49,458
- I just made it
in a combination
879
00:38:49,458 --> 00:38:51,750
of balsa wood for the wings,
880
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:54,542
and polystyrene for
the fuselage and tail.
881
00:38:54,542 --> 00:38:55,875
The main thing we wanted to do
882
00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:58,458
was to measure the
aerodynamic properties.
883
00:38:58,458 --> 00:38:59,750
So, we took them to the
884
00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:02,417
Manchester University
Wind Tunnel.
885
00:39:02,417 --> 00:39:03,583
In the wind tunnel,
886
00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:05,917
it showed that it
had perfectly okay
887
00:39:05,917 --> 00:39:07,458
aerodynamic characteristics,
888
00:39:07,458 --> 00:39:10,333
not optimum but usable.
889
00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:12,042
- [Tony] Sanderson
continued his research
890
00:39:12,042 --> 00:39:13,417
at Liverpool University,
891
00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:15,708
where he programmed the
bird's specifications
892
00:39:15,708 --> 00:39:19,000
into a flight simulator
and added a tailplane.
893
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,917
The simulation showed the design
could have achieved flight,
894
00:39:21,917 --> 00:39:24,792
but likely not for long
given its glide angle,
895
00:39:24,792 --> 00:39:26,542
the angle at which
the flight path
896
00:39:26,542 --> 00:39:28,125
intersects with the ground.
897
00:39:28,125 --> 00:39:29,500
- [Simon] The
properties are such
898
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,500
that the glide angle
might not be very good.
899
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,083
But I would say, if anything,
900
00:39:34,083 --> 00:39:37,833
it was something that was
being used to explore flight.
901
00:39:37,833 --> 00:39:39,500
- [Tony] So we might
see this object
902
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:42,292
as a sort of paper airplane
or cardboard glider,
903
00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:44,875
toys we all put together
when we were children.
904
00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:47,292
And anthropologist
Kathy Strain wonders,
905
00:39:47,292 --> 00:39:48,708
if that's all this is.
906
00:39:48,708 --> 00:39:52,167
- I would expect that
if Egyptians understood
907
00:39:52,167 --> 00:39:54,000
how to create flight,
908
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,917
that we would see hieroglyphs
that depicted them flying,
909
00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:01,042
and yet we don't have
anything like that.
910
00:40:01,042 --> 00:40:03,875
This, to me, is just something
911
00:40:03,875 --> 00:40:08,125
that the person loved
when they were a child,
912
00:40:08,125 --> 00:40:10,333
and they buried it with them
913
00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,375
for him to have it
on the other side.
914
00:40:12,375 --> 00:40:14,125
It's just simply a toy.
915
00:40:14,125 --> 00:40:17,042
- [Tony] Archaeologist Dr.
Ed Barnhart tends to agree.
916
00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:21,167
- It is absolutely clear
that the Egyptians had a love
917
00:40:21,167 --> 00:40:26,042
for creating art
depicting animals,
918
00:40:26,042 --> 00:40:29,292
especially birds of prey.
919
00:40:29,292 --> 00:40:33,000
Sometimes a bird is just a bird.
920
00:40:33,375 --> 00:40:36,917
[suspenseful music]
[letters clicking]
921
00:40:38,042 --> 00:40:41,375
- Our verdict, this is
likely a carved-bird toy
922
00:40:41,375 --> 00:40:42,958
or ritual object.
923
00:40:42,958 --> 00:40:45,375
Since it's unique,
there's still a chance
924
00:40:45,375 --> 00:40:46,917
it was an aircraft model,
925
00:40:46,917 --> 00:40:49,417
but its poor aerodynamic
characteristics
926
00:40:49,417 --> 00:40:50,875
mean a full-size version
927
00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:54,167
likely wouldn't have been
able to glide for very long,
928
00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:56,208
especially without a tail.
929
00:40:56,208 --> 00:40:57,333
And that's our show for tonight.
930
00:40:57,333 --> 00:40:58,875
Thank you so much for watching!
931
00:40:58,875 --> 00:41:01,708
And, as always, keep
those cameras rolling.
932
00:41:01,708 --> 00:41:05,083
[gentle dramatic music]
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