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I was hired by Wasco Countyas the senior planner in July of 1981.
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We had to make a number of tripsdown to the ranch,
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evaluate what was built...
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and then to start issuing citations.
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None of those trips were very pleasant.
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As we made the turn out of Antelope,you always get a knot in your stomach.
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And we were required to only gowith the sheriff's deputy.
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We also worebulletproof vests under our clothing
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because there were a lot of guns.
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There were a lot of street people.
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So, we were out there on an inspection.
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We got trapped behind a truck
at an angle across the road.
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We didn't think it was a setup.
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You're getting in the way.
We're trying to take pictures
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- and you're standing in the way is all.
- Sorry.
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They're blocking the road effectively?
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They did an excellent job
of blocking the road.
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Couldn't have it any done better.
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And the moment Sheela showed up,
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I said,
"You know, this is becoming a circus."
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Sheela, was this an accident?
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I don't know. I just come here.
What do you want me to do?
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I've just come. Let me see.
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Do you want to move?
Let me see what it is.
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Is this is a joke? Are you joking?
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No, I'm not joking, I'm serious.
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This my few people's lives
is concerned here. This is no joke.
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So, we drove off the main road,turned around
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and immediately started coming out.
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And there were
three single-wide structures.
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And I wanted to go in,so we got out of the car.
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K.D. pulled in right ahead of us.
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I said, "I'd like to go in this building."
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And he said,
"Oh, it's just janitorial supplies.
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You know, there's no need to..."
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He went up and said, "Oh, it's locked
and I don't have the key."
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I can still pretty much hear those words.
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And so we didn't really knowwhat we were going to do,
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and it was getting darker.
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So, we felt for our protection,
we're going back to The Dalles.
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So, we all got in the car and left.
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I thought about that often since.
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Had I pressed the issue,
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what would have happened that day?
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Turns out that was their lab.
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Health officials are puzzled by this one.
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They say they've never seen a case
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where the symptomshave developed so quickly.
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They'll be working over the weekend
to try to pinpoint the cause.
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In the meantime,
they're asking people who develop symptoms
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to contact their county
health department immediately.
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Phones were ringing off the hook
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at Wasco County Health Departmentfor two days.
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The callers are sick. They're throwing up,have headaches and diarrhea.
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Everyone is frightened.
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And I don't blame them. I'm frightened.
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I wouldn't want to go out and eat either
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if I thought there was something
going around out here
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and not knowing what it is.
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An investigator
from the State Health Division
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arrived in The Dalles this afternoon
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and one from the Center
for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia
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is due in today or tomorrow,
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all in an effort to try and find out what
is causing this mysterious food poisoning.
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Meanwhile,Oregon congressman Jim Weaver
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is organizing two days of hearingsin Portland next week,
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saying it's time government agenciesaddress the issue.
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Strange things are happening. Just saying
"remain calm" doesn't do any good.
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That's one of the reasons
I'm gonna hold a hearing.
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I'm going to ask the federal agencies,
"What can you do?"
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Mr. Speaker.
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"Mr. Speaker, I have a strange
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and terrifying tale to tell the House.
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It is about a town that was poisoned."
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Who would do such a terrifying thing?
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Who would poison a whole town?
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"Seven hundred were taken violently ill."
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Is there a madman lurking in The Dalles?
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There must be such a person or personswith a motive and innate ability
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to assault this town...
for it actually happened.
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Ma Anand Sheela...
...was a piece of work, let me tell you.
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Salmonella outbreak in The Dalles.
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Salmonella can be very serious,
causing extreme dehydration.
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That salmonella outbreak--
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A mysterious outbreak left 750 people ill.
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Food poisoningsof more than 750 people in The Dalles.
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Well, certainly it was unprecedented,
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uh... in terms of the number of people
that were getting sick by the salmonella.
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And the numbers just kept growing
and coming in and, um, it was chaotic.
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Someone is out therewho poisoned an entire town.
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If they're capable of such a heinous act,
they're capable of anything.
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Started getting sick to my stomach,
you know?
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And I got chills and you get to shaking,
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and you get so cold
that you just can't get warmed up.
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My son-in-law was admittedto the hospital this morning.
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And my daughter is pretty sick
and she's also pregnant,
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so we're quite concerned over that.
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Once people started getting sickby the dozens and then hundreds,
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we set up sort of a command area
in the health department
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and we started tracking
what was going on.
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Where people had eaten,what they had eaten.
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And there didn't seemto be any particular source
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that all this information was pointing to.
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It was sort of just scattered all over
and everyone,
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including the Center for Disease Control,
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couldn't make heads or tailsof what was going on.
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Well, we didn't know, and we engaged
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in good old ordinary investigation
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to try to piece together
what the facts were.
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So far,three restaurants have been linked
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to the outbreak:Arlo's, The Portage Inn, and Shakey's.
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But health officials say they don't knowif the contamination is from a patron
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or from the food handlersat the restaurant.
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The preliminary conclusionfrom state investigators in The Dalles
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blames contamination of raw foodsby infected food handlers.
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The health authorities blamed it
on food handlers.
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It's clear that many restaurant employees
live in the same household.
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So, we believe it's very plausible
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that there was sort of
a chain of transmission.
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They advisedthe food workers be better trained.
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And I said that's the silliest thing
I've ever heard.
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Food handlers have nothing
to do with this.
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This is one of the most greatest
terrorist acts in our country,
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the poisoning of an entire town.
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Different people in the office at the time
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had different degrees of certainty about
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the fact that there were...
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That the Rajneeshees were involved.
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The Rajneesh Medical Corporation
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has a well-equipped medical laboratory
at Rajneeshpuram.
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I can only conclude and very positively
conclude that sabotage did take place.
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Today the Rajneeshees blasted Weaver.
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A spokeswomanfor the Rajneesh Medical Corporation
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called Weaver's speech outrageousand purely malicious.
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It's absolutely false.
It's an ugly, cowardly lie.
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Jim Weaver from halfway across the country
attacked a religious minority
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here in his own home state.
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It's a despicable and outrageous thing,
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and the Rajneesh Medical Corporation
is outraged.
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I was also coordinating
the legal department,
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and so I had certain responsibilities
that I need to ensure were taken care of.
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I was sent by Sheela to support them.
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I was filled with rage,
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and I did a Sheela.
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And we are going to infect.
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We are going to infect
not only The Dalles,
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not only Portland, not only Salem,
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not only the whole state of Oregon,
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and the whole country
of the United States of America.
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Rajneeshees are going
to infect the whole world
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with joy and with laughter
on epidemic proportions.
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All hell broke loose.
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The whole state went bananas.
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And they made me look like an idiot.
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Main article written
in The Oregonian newspaper began,
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"Weaver in another rambling,
incoherent speech."
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My 18-year-old daughter
thought I was crazy,
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because I was taking a lot of shit.
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I have no direct concrete evidence
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to implicate anyone.
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I want to make that very clear.
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No direct concrete evidence
to implicate anyone.
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But you have some of your own ideas?
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I have my own views,
there is no question of that.
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And Bill Bowerman cameinto my office and said,
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"Jim, do you know that these people
are murderers and cutthroats?"
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And that was enough for me to say,
"Hey, wait a minute.
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Nobody else is doing anything about it,
so I'm going to."
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And I began investigating.
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Sheela was in a really difficult position.
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Because the Share-A-Home project
was failing,
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we had Sheela on somewhat shaky ground.
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So, when Bhagwan told Sheela
she needed to be sure
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that Rajneeshees were elected
to the county commission,
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it was for her so important
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because this may mean the difference
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between her remaininghis secretary or not.
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By this time, a small group of people,
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rich people in their own right,
had come to Rajneeshpuram.
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They were known as the Hollywood crowd.
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This was something very radical.
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Her position as his secretary was...
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in jeopardy.
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When we learnedthat upscale, well-educated professionals
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in Los Angeleswere following an Indian guru
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and giving their money
to support meditation centers
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here in Southern California,
we wanted to know more.
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And there was a new group.
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They called them the Hollywood crowd.
Hasya was the center of this group.
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I've always wanted nothing but the best.
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I would call myself
a connoisseur of... the best.
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She had been married to Al Ruddy,
the producer of The Godfather.
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And the winner...
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And the winner is...
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...Albert S. Ruddy, The Godfather.
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Hasya was soft-spoken,
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made a lot of money, and beautiful.
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And they had this big house.
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Big white Mediterranean kind of structure.
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Big swimming pool.
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I actually was in that housea number of times.
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It was a lot of fun.
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They start throwing parties
back in Hollywood
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to raise money for Bhagwan.
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John bought this mansionin West Hollywood for the Bhagwan,
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the perfect placefor their Sannyasin friends
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to meditate and collect money.
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We're looking for a way to express
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his essence in Los Angelesin a way that people could come into it
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and just go, "Wow."
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It's used as a sort of recruiting center.
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Wealthy people are invited to parties
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and introduced to the joysof surrendering to the master.
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The Hollywood people,
they start feeding Bhagwan
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with brochures of fantastic jewelry.
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Things that Sheela
would never have shown him
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because she knew he would want them.
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He was like this-- This kind of bird,
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this blackbird that collects shiny things.
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The Hollywood people
bought him a diamond watch.
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It cost a million dollars.
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He likes the fine things,like all of us do.
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And more than that, his disciples want
to give him the best of everything.
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How much money, John,
do you think you've given Bhagwan?
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Few hundred thousand.
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- Hasya?
- Also a few hundred thousand.
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By this time, the Hollywood peoplehad direct access to Bhagwan.
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Access to Bhagwan was everything.
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He would invite them to comeand spend time with him
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without Sheela to accompany them.
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When you start having Hasya,
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a rich woman from California
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who had fairly recently come to the ranch,
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Sheela felt threatened.
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She suspected that there were other people
now who were having his ear.
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Bhagwan even went so faras to call Sheela into his house
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and to explain to heranother corporation was to be set up,
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and Hasya and Johnwould run this corporation.
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That made Sheela really, really angry.
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I remember my father...
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he would always say,
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"You and Bhagwan are meant to be together.
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You are a team that is unbreakable."
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When Bhagwan is behind me,
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I always felt I could do anything.
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I had this power of trust and love.
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Protecting Bhagwan's vision,
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protecting Bhagwan's people
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was highest in my existence.
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I took his people as my people.
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I was with Bhagwanbecause I fell in love with him.
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And we went through a big journey.
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But, unfortunately...
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Bhagwan got sidetracked.
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Some of his talks were not so coherent.
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You see this behavior changes.
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Bhagwan started going down the hill.
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Bhagwan had started speaking to Sheela
about a doomsday scenario.
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The world would be in chaosand fall apart.
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His Sannyasins would be safe.
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There wouldbe underground dwellings built.
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They would be able to emerge
as the new man and live his vision.
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So, I see this irrational behavior.
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He has to go. Press must go.
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One day our pharmacistcomes totally upset to me.
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Brought with him the prescription
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that was written by Bhagwan's doctor
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to get drugs for Bhagwan.
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I was horrified.
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This rich group of people have
gotten Bhagwan hooked onto the drugs,
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combination of laughing gas, valium.
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To wait till the evening,
I go speak with Bhagwan.
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It was a long day for me...
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because I was so upset.
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I gave every argumentthat I could think of.
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The drugs would be attracting
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every legal entity to shut us down.
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That's exactly what they are waiting for.
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He heard everything.
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And then simply said...
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"You stay out of it.
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Let Deva Raj do his... work."
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I came out of his room in tears,
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heartbroken.
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On one hand, he wants me to protect...
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his vision, his teachings, his commune...
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and him.
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And now he says...
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"Stay out of it."
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I could not tolerate it.
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There I lost my patience.
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In the United States...
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if the governmentdoes decide to get you...
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they're going to get you.
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I mean, they have the resources
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and the ability
to basically go after anybody and succeed.
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But to have it done to your community,
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and to have the governmentnot be just be unwelcoming...
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but to twist and violate their own laws,their own procedures,
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and to be self-righteous in doing that.
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Immigration was clearly a tool
to destroy the community.
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I mean, immigration was the biggest tool
to destroy the community
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because there was a whole lot
of pressure from Washington D.C.
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to go after this guy
and get rid of this guy.
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The immigration investigation started
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when a political donor to the president
wrote to Edwin Meese
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and told Meese about this cult in Oregon
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and that they should get rid of Osho.
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One of the INS commissionerswrote in a memo
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that perhaps it's wishful thinking,
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but our pressures may force themto pick up and leave.
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You know, they were spending timewith anti-cult experts.
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They were sayingthat he cannot be a religious leader
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because what he teachesis the antipathy of religion.
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In November of '82,
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he applied for a visaas a religious teacher and leader.
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His goal was to convinceofficials he should remain in the U.S.
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He now wants to change his statusto that of religious worker
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and remainat his central Oregon ranch permanently.
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The INS issued a denial.
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The Immigrationand Naturalization Service has denied
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the Bhagwan's request for an adjustment ofstatus from visitor to religious worker.
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Deportation efforts are pending.
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Trouble betweenRajneeshees and authorities has grown
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since the governmentordered the Bhagwan deported.
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Today's protest concerneda meeting between the Rajneeshees
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and the immigration officials.
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I want that guru and his evil influence
out of my city.
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The immigration office
knows he's in this country illegally
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and I want them to uphold the law
and get him out.
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The deportation orderagainst the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
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is now under review.
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No definite date has been set
for his return to India.
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The denials were a trip.
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Our position was that as a result of
his silence for about a year and a half,
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he could not and had not
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performed the duties that the organization
described in their own document.
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The only thing I'm hearing from you,
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and I want to give you an opportunity
to tell me something more
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if there is something, is that the man
doesn't talk publicly. Is that it?
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He was not participating actively
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in the religious ceremonies...
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duties that the organization
described him as--
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Or described as necessary
to the performance of his duties.
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All right, Niren,
do you want to respond?
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Clearly, he qualified.
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I mean, if he's not a religious teacher
and leader, nobody's a teacher and leader.
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I was outraged by it.
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The INS is now simply uncomfortable with
the ludicrous nature of their position,
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and that is that if you're in silence
you can't be a religious leader.
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It's a bit like saying if the pope
has laryngitis, he stops being pope.
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It doesn't make sense.
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It's our position, and we have evidence
that there is bias,
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there is prejudgment,
there is religious discrimination,
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there is racial discrimination.They want him out of the country.
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And to try and get rid
of the rest of the disciples
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who are in this country legally as well.
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I was actually a hero in that community...
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because I was, in a sense,
the tip of the spear,
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fighting to survive.
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People were so loving, so beautiful to me,
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so happy and gratefulthat I was there to do what I could do.
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I formed a nonprofit legal corporation.
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We ended up with having like 20 lawyers,25 paralegals at the ranch.
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Every issue was rebutted
with mountains of evidence.
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On Thursday,the guru's attorneys appeared
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at the immigration service officein downtown Portland
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with over 1,000 pages of material
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explaining why their gurushould be allowed to stay.
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The INS had found that they couldn't,
they could not win.
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Their whole investigationwas replete with bias.
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Their decisions were against the law.
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Are we running?
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"On February 16, 1984,"
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which happened to be my birthday,
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"the INS granted his visa
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as a religious teacher and leader."
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They acknowledged he was
a religious teacher and leader.
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All right! All right!
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We didn't win much in Oregon...
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but we won that one.
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But then...
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Charles Turner got involved in this case.
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The INS, having failed to deport him,
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they referred it to the U.S. Attorneyto try and find a criminal prosecution.
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Charlie Turner wasthe gold standard for law enforcement.
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When Ronald Reagan was elected president,
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Charlie Turner was appointedthe United States attorney
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and asked me to serve
as his criminal division chief,
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which I was honored to do.
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So when the Immigration Servicereturned to us in sometime in 1983,
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the case was there, the evidence wasn't.
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And Charlie and I picked upthe pace substantially.
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The two of us did nothing
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but work on this case for about two years.
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These people were basically amoral people
who could not or would not conform
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to the laws of our society.
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But anytime you find people
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that are unwilling or unable
to conform to the mores of society,
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you find a person
who is a potential criminal.
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Turner knew,
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"Unless I prosecute it, he stays,
so I'm going to dig as much as I can."
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If you take three giant steps backwards
and contemplate the fact
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that one of the most discussed topics
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of the philosophyof Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
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was his view that marriageis a worthless institution,
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that it interferes with the freedom
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that you need to achieve
spiritual enlightenment.
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And suddenly you see so many Sannyasins
on the ranch getting married.
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You know, conspiracyis a federal prosecutor's best friend.
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The conspiracy was an agreement
to defraud the United States.
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So the typical case would be this:
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Swami Prem Robert, an American citizen,
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would be ordered to go to Houston, Texas.
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Ma Hanna, a foreign Sannyasin,
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would be ordered to go to Houston, Texas.
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And the two of them would be instructed
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to go back
to their original non-Sannyasin names.
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They would each get jobs.
They would get an apartment together.
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They would establish what ostensiblylooked like a committed life together.
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They would go to city hall.They would get a marriage license.
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A few weeks later,
go to the Immigration Service and say,
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"We are in a committed relationship,
and under the immigration laws
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we would like a green card."
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A green card would issue. Zoom!
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Both parties make a hasty retreatback to the ranch...
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and return to their original lives
and original partners that they had.
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And this was done in Dallas,
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Southern California,
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Seattle,
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Trenton, New Jersey, and in Philadelphia,
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all around the United States
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so that the pattern was harder to detect.
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This was the largest immigration fraud
case in the history of the United States.
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And Charlie and I,as we pursued the case...
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the conclusion was unavoidablethat Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh himself
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was involved in the planning
and execution of this.
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By that time, I think it was
the safe assumption on everyone's part,
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including the Rajneeshees,
that if he was charged and deported,
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Rajneeshpuram would disappear
off the face of the earth.
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About this time when one was calledinto Sheela's room in Jesus Grove,
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a list was being made
of enemies of the commune.
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People were talking
about killing other people.
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Sheela considered Mr. Turnera real enemy of the commune.
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Mr. Turner had the last say
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when it came to whether or not Bhagwan
could stay in America.
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When there was talk of shooting people,
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Sheela had said,
"Shanti B will do it. She's a good shot."
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It was just put out there that,"Okay, I'm the good shot. I'll do that."
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Sheela told me I was to go to Portland
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and meet up with a woman there.
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And when I met her, she was a Sannyasin,
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but wearing regular street clothes.
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And she took me with herto an apartment in Portland
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which she told me was a safe house.
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In the apartment, the cupboards
were full of regular street clothes,
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and she told me to choose
from these clothes something to wear.
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Somebody came to us and told us what kind
of guns he thought we should get.
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He said we should get smaller guns.
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Pistols because they
would be easier to transport.
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The small group in the car I was in
drove to where Mr. Turner worked.
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And we sat in McDonald's,early in the morning.
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Drank coffee. For the first timein my life I smoked a cigarette.
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But we were watching
the park house entrance
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where Mr. Turner was expected to walk out.
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And at that point my companion said to me,
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"Come on. We'll go down
and we'll show you where he comes out."
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And pointed out where
Mr. Turner parked his car.
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I was saying to myself,
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"What are we doing?
This is absolutely crazy. This is like--
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We're in the middle of town.
And we're gonna kill somebody here?"
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No, he didn't come out that day,
so I didn't ever see him.
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And as we drove away
back towards the main road,
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the three people in the car,
including myself,
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talked about the possibility of perhaps
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shooting him there in the park house.
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I've been a journalistall of my life.
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I did my first newspaper
when I was in the third grade,
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and I've done it ever since,
for 50 years in the state of Oregon.
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I feel I was born
to be an investigative reporter.
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I just have a knack for it.
I have an inclination. I can find stories.
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The best ones are those
that I sort of have an instinct for it
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that something isn't right here
and I'm going to dig into it
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and I'm going to find out why.
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We came into it when the controversy
between the Rajneeshee community
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and Oregon was ramping up considerably.
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There were political tensions,
religious tensions, civil rights tensions.
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The influx of people, the influx of moneywas continuing to grow.
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So the question loomed pretty largefor us, suddenly, is who were they?
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Where did they come from?Why are they in Oregon?
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And what's really going on here?
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I got assigned to go to India
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00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:19,706
because they came from India
and they left for a reason.
494
00:33:20,248 --> 00:33:23,168
I collected, like,35,000 pages of material
495
00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:25,629
and established the historyof the organization.
496
00:33:27,631 --> 00:33:32,302
It became quite clear
that the commune had fled India
497
00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:36,640
ahead of getting indicted
and arrested by Indian authorities.
498
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:40,435
They were facing immigration fraud...
499
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:44,898
tax issues at several government levels...
500
00:33:45,607 --> 00:33:48,485
the smuggling in currency, in gold...
501
00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:53,198
arsons, sophisticated criminal conduct.
502
00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:59,955
I spent 18 months writingwhat became a 20-part series,
503
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:04,459
which to this day remains the longest
series ever published by The Oregonian.
504
00:34:08,755 --> 00:34:12,050
I went down to the ranch, to city hall,
505
00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:15,595
and we asked to see every check
that the city had issued.
506
00:34:16,137 --> 00:34:18,890
It was a spider web of financial contacts.
507
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:24,062
The Oregon operationhad an insatiable need for cash,
508
00:34:24,145 --> 00:34:26,856
to create this illusion
of great prosperity,
509
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:31,528
that we're building nirvana in the desert.
Well, that took money.
510
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:39,035
I think it became very apparent that this
was no longer a sustainable fantasy.
511
00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:44,124
You came from where?
512
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:49,337
The honeymoon is over at Rajneeshpuram
between the followers of the Bhagwan
513
00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:51,548
and many of the street peoplethey invited there.
514
00:34:51,631 --> 00:34:53,592
The street people claim that yesterday
515
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:56,761
Ma Anand Sheela calledthe entire street people population
516
00:34:56,845 --> 00:35:00,515
into this large assembly halland held a trial of sorts.
517
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,476
So, what I would like you to understand
518
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,231
that I'm not going
to tolerate problem-makers,
519
00:35:08,315 --> 00:35:11,359
any sort of hanky-panky from today on.
520
00:35:12,027 --> 00:35:15,697
Tomorrow morning you will start receiving
messages that you need to leave,
521
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:16,656
you need to leave.
522
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:23,913
She says, "You. You're on the bus."
523
00:35:23,997 --> 00:35:26,374
And the man is immediately escorted out
524
00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:30,295
and held under tight security
while he packs his things and leaves.
525
00:35:30,378 --> 00:35:32,881
I saw five or six guys just completely,
you know,
526
00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:36,551
like, physically being dragged out,
you know, by the security guards.
527
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:43,475
I got a call around midnightfrom the governor's office
528
00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:46,394
telling me that Rajneeshees
529
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:51,775
were driving around The Dalles in vans
530
00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:55,111
and dropping homeless people off
in neighborhoods
531
00:35:55,195 --> 00:35:59,157
and if anybody encountered them
and asked what they were doing,
532
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,662
they were pointing automatic weapons
at them and making them back away.
533
00:36:04,412 --> 00:36:06,039
And she said, "What should we do?"
534
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:13,129
To this day, that's probably still
the most unusual and difficult request
535
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:15,965
for legal advice that I've gotten
from a client.
536
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:19,469
Up until now,
most of the folks who've left the ranch
537
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,262
have left of their own accord.
538
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:24,015
But this latest batch seems
to represent something new.
539
00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:27,560
Rajneeshees are booting people out
wholesale, and they're getting physical.
540
00:36:28,103 --> 00:36:31,690
There were people on the streets
that came to our place
541
00:36:31,773 --> 00:36:34,401
that were not in their full capacity,
542
00:36:34,484 --> 00:36:36,653
that really required major medication.
543
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:39,155
There were people who were violent.
544
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,828
There were people who were
really living on the edge of psychosis.
545
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:46,538
Rajneesh officials today said
546
00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:49,541
the four men who were dropped offin Portland are troublemakers.
547
00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:51,209
They call us troublemakers, yes,
548
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:56,297
and we have openly admitted
that we did act out of anger.
549
00:36:56,381 --> 00:37:01,720
We were going to tip
their, uh, ticket booth over
550
00:37:01,803 --> 00:37:04,848
and start tipping all their A-frames over
right down the line.
551
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,810
They couldn't control
those independent street people...
552
00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:11,938
...even with tranquilizers.
553
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,150
They couldn't do it.
554
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,694
Well, I wanted to check it out.
555
00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:20,530
And the guy that we're worshipping,
he looks like a damn devil.
556
00:37:20,613 --> 00:37:22,615
What would you tell another young person?
557
00:37:22,699 --> 00:37:25,326
Not to come...
unless you want to be a queer.
558
00:37:26,703 --> 00:37:29,164
'Cause there's all kind of queers,
I seen it myself.
559
00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:32,083
They were kissing and hugging,
and the lesbians too.
560
00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:36,129
Men are sleeping in this room here
on the floor, on benches, on the chairs,
561
00:37:36,212 --> 00:37:39,758
wherever they can find a space.
They all came from Rajneeshpuram
562
00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:43,011
and now they're all stranded
in the city of Portland.
563
00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:46,556
And then they ended up
in towns in central Oregon.
564
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,892
Some of them then later in Portland,
565
00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:52,187
where they begged or stole
what they needed to survive.
566
00:37:53,062 --> 00:37:57,776
So, it created enormous tension
inside the community
567
00:37:57,859 --> 00:37:59,611
and outside the community.
568
00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:05,200
Some residents of Madras, Oregon
say they fear for their safety tonight
569
00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:08,912
as disillusioned street peoplecontinue to leave Rajneeshpuram.
570
00:38:08,995 --> 00:38:11,790
The residents of that town
are being advised by the mayor
571
00:38:11,873 --> 00:38:15,126
to lock their doors to protect themselves
against homeless people
572
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:17,086
who might leave nearby Rajneeshpuram.
573
00:38:17,170 --> 00:38:19,714
Some people had reached
the point of hysteria,
574
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:22,300
being afraid to go out
of the house, you know?
575
00:38:23,384 --> 00:38:25,553
The people in Madras
are fearing for their lives.
576
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,097
They are afraid that they will show up,
577
00:38:28,181 --> 00:38:30,809
and some might maybe even
slaughter them in their beds.
578
00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:33,102
People of Madras, Oregonhave thrown up their hands.
579
00:38:33,186 --> 00:38:36,564
They don't know what to do withthe rejected recruits from Rajneeshpuram
580
00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:38,233
who have converged on their town.
581
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:44,531
The rejects that they don't want,dump them in here on us?
582
00:38:44,614 --> 00:38:46,449
Just send them back where they come from.
583
00:38:47,242 --> 00:38:51,246
We're not obligated
to take care of their rejects.
584
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,539
We don't want them here.
585
00:38:53,456 --> 00:38:55,583
Now what's gonna happen
if they dump them here in town
586
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:57,001
and they don't have any money?
587
00:38:58,002 --> 00:38:59,003
You tell me.
588
00:39:01,381 --> 00:39:04,467
I think it's time
that somebody does something.
589
00:39:04,551 --> 00:39:07,887
The release of the homeless people
and how that was done,
590
00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:11,641
it was pretty obvious
that things were sort of boiling up
591
00:39:11,724 --> 00:39:15,061
and coming to a head here
with this election process.
592
00:39:15,603 --> 00:39:18,273
I'm scared just like the rest of us
around here, you know?
593
00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:20,942
We're just, uh, worried,
594
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:24,404
and we won't know until the sixth,
I guess, how this is gonna come out.
595
00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:26,531
You know, you can only push so far.
596
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:32,954
Wasco County was looking for a fight.
597
00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:36,791
Last night a large group
of angry Oregonians gathered
598
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:40,962
to map out anti-Rajneesh strategy.
Although they'd been warned against it,
599
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:44,591
many in the group vowed to follow through
with a plan to register illegally
600
00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:46,092
to vote against the Rajneeshees.
601
00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:49,721
The plan,organized by Albany resident JoAnne Boies,
602
00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:52,015
is to registerthe day before the election,
603
00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:54,225
vote, and leave the next day.
604
00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,311
Let me tell you,
if you don't get off your duffs,
605
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:59,731
you're gonna be wearing a picture
of the Bhagwan around your neck.
606
00:40:01,024 --> 00:40:04,110
We don't want them
taking over the state of Oregon
607
00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:08,239
or any other state in the United States.
This is our country.
608
00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:16,623
The controversy in WascoCounty has made some national headlines
609
00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:19,751
concerning whether or not the Rajneeshees
would actually go to the poll.
610
00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:22,253
A record voter turnout is expected there.
611
00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:27,675
Voters were turning outat a record pace at Wasco County polls.
612
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:31,346
Lines began forming when the polls openedat 8 a.m., and they never let up.
613
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:33,097
Never hadanything like this before.
614
00:40:34,223 --> 00:40:37,268
May have this crowd
maybe six, seven o'clock at night,
615
00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:38,603
but not like this in the morning.
616
00:40:38,895 --> 00:40:40,271
It was a big number.
617
00:40:40,355 --> 00:40:43,191
I think it showed
they were paying attention to the news.
618
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:45,151
They understood what was at stake,
619
00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:48,154
and they came out and voted
to protect their own democracy.
620
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:51,741
Sheela's been saying all the time
what they're going to do.
621
00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:53,910
You know, and that's-- That's dirty pool.
622
00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:57,747
The people don't want the red shirts
to take us over, I guess.
623
00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:59,374
How important is this election?
624
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:00,333
Very important.
625
00:41:01,709 --> 00:41:03,169
Um...
626
00:41:03,252 --> 00:41:05,672
We need the votes for our side.
627
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:10,468
The Rajneeshees were way under
what they needed to do a block vote
628
00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:13,262
and get their own people
into the county commission.
629
00:41:13,805 --> 00:41:16,307
The problem was that Wasco County
was a little bigger
630
00:41:16,391 --> 00:41:21,187
than the Rajneeshees could control
just by sheer numbers.
631
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,524
And it fell apart before the election.
632
00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:27,694
November sixth means different things
for different people,
633
00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,656
but today at Rajneeshpuram, its meaning
is being translated into protest.
634
00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:33,449
- ...the Constitution!
- Yeah!
635
00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:35,660
Telling us we can't vote!
636
00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:38,538
Voters at Rajneeshpuramwere greeted by demonstrators
637
00:41:38,621 --> 00:41:41,249
protesting because they cannot enterthe voting booth.
638
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:46,754
What people told me
was they think this process stinks.
639
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:49,924
Anybody feel that way?
640
00:41:51,759 --> 00:41:53,011
And this is democracy.
641
00:41:54,053 --> 00:41:55,346
Well, I've had enough of it.
642
00:41:56,889 --> 00:41:59,308
Sheela dropped byto view the proceedings.
643
00:41:59,392 --> 00:42:01,936
She said even if she could vote,she would not.
644
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,605
It was misuse of power
645
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:07,066
and it was misuse of power
646
00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:10,153
against their own citizens.
647
00:42:11,112 --> 00:42:12,947
Against Americans.
648
00:42:13,489 --> 00:42:16,909
Against American war veterans.
649
00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:22,123
This ugly mentality,
650
00:42:22,915 --> 00:42:24,542
I have no words for.
651
00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:28,421
Anti-climactic best describes
Wasco County's election.
652
00:42:28,504 --> 00:42:32,467
Fears that Rajneeshees would castenough ballots to take over the county
653
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,135
proved all for naught.
654
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:38,181
Well, although that Rajneeshee takeover
threat never really got off the ground,
655
00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:40,892
it did spur a record voter turnout.
656
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,311
Ninety-three percent turnout.
That is really something.
657
00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:45,063
Pretty amazing and the county clerk
658
00:42:45,146 --> 00:42:46,397
was very happy about that.
659
00:42:46,481 --> 00:42:50,193
Frankly, everyone in Wasco County is also
happy that the Rajneeshees did not vote.
660
00:42:50,276 --> 00:42:53,780
We did it, we did it correctly,
we did it legally, we did it properly,
661
00:42:53,863 --> 00:42:56,783
and the integrity of the ballot
has been preserved.
662
00:42:56,866 --> 00:42:59,535
Officials here share a sigh of relief
663
00:42:59,619 --> 00:43:02,622
and a sense of pride
in a community that stood together
664
00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:05,792
facing one of the greatest challenges
to the democratic process
665
00:43:05,875 --> 00:43:08,002
any county in the country
has had to endure.
666
00:43:08,711 --> 00:43:11,964
Well, in Sheela's case, um...
667
00:43:12,048 --> 00:43:15,718
she did not take losing lightly.
668
00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:17,970
She did not leave her guns at the door.
669
00:43:18,054 --> 00:43:20,389
She wasn't calm for very long.
670
00:43:20,473 --> 00:43:23,351
She got militant pretty darn fast.
671
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:26,729
If they want to demolish us,
they can throw a bomb on us.
672
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,690
We'll be happily ready to die.
673
00:43:32,026 --> 00:43:35,488
But to become victim
of fascist government,
674
00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:38,449
that's not Rajneeshee way.
675
00:43:39,158 --> 00:43:41,661
It's like Hitler's troops are waiting...
676
00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:47,792
to massacre the Allies.
677
00:43:48,709 --> 00:43:51,003
As things began to unravel,
678
00:43:51,087 --> 00:43:56,384
there was a great risk that itcould boil over into actual violence.
679
00:43:56,884 --> 00:43:57,927
Oregonians.
680
00:43:59,137 --> 00:44:00,555
It's a rare breed.
681
00:44:01,389 --> 00:44:04,475
That's the only thing I can say.
It's a rare breed.
682
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,270
Next thing they want
to know is what do you mean by that?
683
00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:08,563
What do I mean by that?
684
00:44:10,857 --> 00:44:14,610
They haven't learned their lesson... yet.
685
00:44:15,611 --> 00:44:18,030
By 1984, this whole thing was on fire.
686
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:20,908
I mean, on fire.
687
00:44:22,869 --> 00:44:27,290
I'm sound asleep and the phone rang
in the middle of a deep sleep.
688
00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:30,877
And it was my secretary
who had been called and said that,
689
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,753
"You gotta come downto the planning office.
690
00:44:32,837 --> 00:44:34,422
There's been a fire."
691
00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:36,549
Sure enough, there was a fire.
692
00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:40,219
What they did was two or three broke in
693
00:44:40,303 --> 00:44:43,890
and almost every file was pulled
out of its drawer and thrown around
694
00:44:44,557 --> 00:44:48,519
and they cut the candles off and squirted
everything with the lighter fluid.
695
00:44:48,603 --> 00:44:52,648
Once it caught fire, everythingon the wall, it was all blistered.
696
00:44:54,275 --> 00:44:57,320
One day everybody got a box of chocolates.
697
00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:00,865
A box of chocolates arrives.
698
00:45:00,948 --> 00:45:02,658
Dark Secrets.
699
00:45:02,742 --> 00:45:06,454
Outside, they look just likeordinary chocolates, but inside...
700
00:45:07,914 --> 00:45:11,334
And it says, "Thank you for your support
701
00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:13,294
to preserve the Columbia River Gorge."
702
00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:15,963
So we open the boxand we start eating them.
703
00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:21,135
A day or two later, Bob's riding
in the elevator and he sees Bowen Blair,
704
00:45:21,218 --> 00:45:23,638
director of Friends of the Columbia Gorge,
and says,
705
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,307
"Bowen, thank you
for the chocolates you sent us."
706
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:30,144
And Bowen says, "I'm not aware
that we sent you any chocolate."
707
00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:33,940
They found one candy
in the center of the box
708
00:45:34,023 --> 00:45:37,318
with a pinprick in the bottom of it, uh...
709
00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:40,196
that was loaded with something fun.
710
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:43,950
Mike Sullivan,
the district attorney in Jefferson County,
711
00:45:44,033 --> 00:45:47,286
almost died, and nobody knew why.
712
00:45:48,537 --> 00:45:51,415
My skin was starting
to turn different shades of colors
713
00:45:51,499 --> 00:45:54,669
and my lips turned blue
because of a lack of oxygen.
714
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:56,754
Bill Hulse traveled to the ranch,
715
00:45:56,837 --> 00:45:59,757
and at some point
they offered him some water.
716
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,553
Having drunk that water,
I came down with a violent, uh...
717
00:46:04,637 --> 00:46:06,806
stomach bowel upset.
718
00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:09,141
He became violently ill.
719
00:46:09,225 --> 00:46:11,060
We almost lost Bill.
720
00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:13,938
And it was-- It was touch and go.
721
00:46:14,021 --> 00:46:17,024
People feared for their lives
and there was a reason for that.
722
00:46:19,819 --> 00:46:23,155
We in the U.S. Attorney's office
were concerned about our safety.
723
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:26,450
Two state police detectives showed up
724
00:46:26,534 --> 00:46:29,286
and they took me into one
of our small interview rooms,
725
00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:31,622
and they proceeded to explain to me
726
00:46:31,706 --> 00:46:33,874
that they had developed
credible information
727
00:46:33,958 --> 00:46:36,127
that I had been targeted for murder.
728
00:46:37,044 --> 00:46:39,338
These folks were so diabolical
729
00:46:40,423 --> 00:46:43,759
that they would consider killing me
for doing my job.
730
00:46:43,843 --> 00:46:47,221
The Rajneeshee rumor hotline has been
operating only since yesterday afternoon,
731
00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:50,558
but already it has received
up to 3,000 phone calls
732
00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:52,435
from citizens worried about
the Rajneeshees.
733
00:46:54,478 --> 00:46:56,022
State police.
734
00:46:57,773 --> 00:47:00,735
Oh, sure. I can answer that.
735
00:47:01,861 --> 00:47:06,490
The challenge was to sift through
what's real and what's not,
736
00:47:06,574 --> 00:47:11,704
because some of the things that we
were hearing were just... fantastical.
737
00:47:11,787 --> 00:47:16,792
A very strange story continues to unfold
at the Oregon commune of Rajneeshpuram.
738
00:47:16,876 --> 00:47:19,920
There's a new accusationagainst Sheela and her gang,
739
00:47:20,004 --> 00:47:22,423
and it was a plot to blow upthe Wasco County courthouse.
740
00:47:22,506 --> 00:47:26,093
An Air Rajneesh pilotsays he refused a demand from Sheela
741
00:47:26,177 --> 00:47:27,928
to bomb a nearby courthouse.
742
00:47:28,012 --> 00:47:30,306
People prefer to believe the rumors.
743
00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:32,975
People prefer
not to be confused by the facts.
744
00:47:33,059 --> 00:47:36,562
And as long as that's the case, we
will have possible violence because of it.
745
00:47:36,645 --> 00:47:38,147
One rumor claimedthe Rajneeshees
746
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:40,399
caused the recent salmonella outbreak.
747
00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:43,360
Other callers worriedabout weapons in Rajneeshpuram.
748
00:47:43,444 --> 00:47:45,946
The hotline saysit knows of nothing illegal.
749
00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:49,033
The threat comes not from Rajneeshpuram
and Rajneeshees.
750
00:47:49,116 --> 00:47:53,621
The threat of violence comes
from these people and people like them.
751
00:47:53,704 --> 00:47:54,914
People who are bigoted.
752
00:47:54,997 --> 00:47:59,627
And for this court to allow itself to be
degraded in this way is disgusting.
753
00:48:01,128 --> 00:48:02,797
The state of Oregon is dead.
754
00:48:03,005 --> 00:48:07,218
We had no doubtthat Sheela and her crew
755
00:48:07,301 --> 00:48:11,055
were... were very deeply involved.
756
00:48:11,138 --> 00:48:14,433
It's hard to believe
that anybody would do that.
757
00:48:14,517 --> 00:48:17,186
And yet in retrospect, we now know
758
00:48:17,269 --> 00:48:20,272
that much of what we were hearing
was true.
759
00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:28,447
We were in the middleof the battle, but we weren't winning.
760
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,992
Sheela intended to beat the stateand she didn't.
761
00:48:32,952 --> 00:48:37,957
She was deteriorating
in a way that you could see visibly.
762
00:48:38,499 --> 00:48:43,337
I think the fear
and the anxiety and the tension--
763
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:46,173
I think it wore her thin,
764
00:48:46,257 --> 00:48:49,176
but we didn't know how thin
she had been worn.
765
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:51,971
And not just parents who are retarded,
teachers-- Uh, students--
766
00:48:52,054 --> 00:48:57,017
I saw more paranoia, and not just paranoia
from the people outside.
767
00:48:57,101 --> 00:48:59,019
Now it was moving inside.
768
00:49:05,276 --> 00:49:07,611
There had always been some tension
769
00:49:07,695 --> 00:49:12,032
between Sheelaand the people in Bhagwan's house.
770
00:49:12,449 --> 00:49:17,246
Sheela did not likeBhagwan's personal physician,
771
00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:21,333
and Hasya married Deva Raj,Bhagwan's doctor.
772
00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:25,838
I do know that a problem
between her and myself began
773
00:49:25,921 --> 00:49:28,048
shortly after I married Deva Raj.
774
00:49:28,132 --> 00:49:31,343
Something changed,
very shortly after my marriage.
775
00:49:32,761 --> 00:49:38,267
So, Hasya had even more accessto Bhagwan than Sheela did.
776
00:49:44,023 --> 00:49:46,775
For Sheela, this was the last straw.
777
00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:52,531
She realized that she had lost the battle.
778
00:49:53,699 --> 00:49:57,119
And in the middle of all this,unknown to Bhagwan,
779
00:49:57,203 --> 00:50:00,998
she had his room wiretapped...
780
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:03,334
in order to protect him.
781
00:50:03,876 --> 00:50:07,463
Sheela would be awareof any possible danger to Bhagwan.
782
00:50:09,048 --> 00:50:14,803
I felt she wanted to hear and control
what was being said to Bhagwan.
783
00:50:20,392 --> 00:50:24,146
And we had a tower around his house.
784
00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,733
This was where the recordings were made.
785
00:50:27,816 --> 00:50:30,694
I would be up thereand K.D. would climb up
786
00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:34,907
and take out a cassette outof the recorder and put in another one.
787
00:50:36,075 --> 00:50:38,410
And then this cassette would be taken down
788
00:50:38,494 --> 00:50:41,121
and somebody would sit and listen to it
789
00:50:41,205 --> 00:50:43,749
and report to Sheela what was being said.
790
00:50:45,834 --> 00:50:48,420
Sheela played a tape to me
791
00:50:48,504 --> 00:50:52,383
that was more shockingthan anything I could have imagined.
792
00:50:53,384 --> 00:50:58,264
Bhagwan was asking his doctorhow death could be induced
793
00:50:58,347 --> 00:51:01,475
in a dignified, painless way.
794
00:51:03,310 --> 00:51:05,062
Bhagwan's doctor explained to him,
795
00:51:05,145 --> 00:51:11,151
first morphine would be injectedinto the blood vessel.
796
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:16,323
curare would be addedthat would paralyze the body...
797
00:51:16,782 --> 00:51:20,286
and then a third substancewould be added to stop the heart.
798
00:51:21,954 --> 00:51:25,416
On the wiretap,
Bhagwan's doctor said to him
799
00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:28,335
that the medications had arrived
800
00:51:28,419 --> 00:51:31,672
and Bhagwan told the doctor to bury them
801
00:51:31,755 --> 00:51:35,759
in a safe place in the gardenuntil they were needed.
802
00:51:37,094 --> 00:51:42,599
Bhagwan ordered Sheela to arrangefor the building of a crematorium.
803
00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:51,650
He also told Sheela that he would dieon a Master's Day, the sixth of July.
804
00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:57,865
It was too awful to contemplate.
805
00:51:57,948 --> 00:52:00,993
I didn't know what it meant.
It frightened me terribly.
806
00:52:02,745 --> 00:52:04,371
But it was just awful.
807
00:52:05,581 --> 00:52:08,500
From that day on, I listened to Sheela
808
00:52:08,584 --> 00:52:11,378
when she talked
about the dangers to Bhagwan...
809
00:52:12,838 --> 00:52:14,590
of his doctor and his dentist.
810
00:52:15,341 --> 00:52:18,969
We complain about not to use
rats and rabbits...
811
00:52:19,887 --> 00:52:21,889
for medical experiment.
812
00:52:23,724 --> 00:52:27,061
And they take this intellectual giant...
813
00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:29,480
for this stupid experiment.
814
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:32,816
How stupid they can be.
815
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:37,321
They have no ethics.
They have no ethics in medical field.
816
00:52:37,821 --> 00:52:40,199
They have no human ethics.
817
00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:43,660
And definitely, they don't know
818
00:52:43,744 --> 00:52:47,915
the relationship of guru and disciple.
819
00:52:52,169 --> 00:52:55,172
On the eve of Master's Day,
820
00:52:55,255 --> 00:52:57,466
July the sixth, 1985...
821
00:52:58,509 --> 00:53:02,513
Sheela called a group of us to her house.
822
00:53:03,222 --> 00:53:06,225
Sheela looked terrible that evening.
823
00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,062
She was really pale.
824
00:53:10,145 --> 00:53:12,523
And she told us,
825
00:53:12,606 --> 00:53:15,901
"Tomorrow Bhagwan is going
to orchestrate his death.
826
00:53:15,984 --> 00:53:19,988
Tomorrow Deva Raj is going to kill him.
827
00:53:20,072 --> 00:53:23,784
We've got to stop it.
We have to do something.
828
00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:27,329
If we can stop Deva Raj,
if we can kill Deva Raj,
829
00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:28,831
Bhagwan won't die.
830
00:53:30,249 --> 00:53:31,500
Who will do it?"
831
00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:35,295
Nobody spoke.
832
00:53:37,548 --> 00:53:39,967
We were all in shocked silence.
833
00:53:40,426 --> 00:53:43,762
It was impossible. It was just
impossible that Bhagwan should die.
834
00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:49,101
But when somebody spoke
and said, "I will do it,"
835
00:53:51,103 --> 00:53:53,730
that was me. That was my voice...
836
00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:59,361
that rose up in that silence
and said, "I will do it."
837
00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:03,740
And then there wasjust general pandemonium.
838
00:54:03,824 --> 00:54:07,453
People were all talking at once,
but I had retreated into myself.
839
00:54:07,536 --> 00:54:10,497
I wasn't really listening.
I didn't really hear what they said.
840
00:54:10,581 --> 00:54:15,335
And after, when everybody had gone,
I went by myself, completely alone.
841
00:54:15,419 --> 00:54:16,753
I went to Sheela's nurse.
842
00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:20,132
She gave me what I would need.
843
00:54:21,133 --> 00:54:23,385
A syringe, the substance.
844
00:54:23,886 --> 00:54:27,931
I went to the clothing room
and chose the clothes I would wear...
845
00:54:29,766 --> 00:54:32,811
so that I had a pocket
to put the syringe in.
846
00:54:35,689 --> 00:54:38,317
It was all about...
847
00:54:39,401 --> 00:54:41,945
keeping Bhagwan alive.
848
00:54:42,654 --> 00:54:44,656
Bhagwan must live.
849
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:05,177
When I dressed that morning to go,I was...
850
00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:09,431
I was not afraid.
851
00:55:11,141 --> 00:55:15,354
I felt very strong
and very clear in what I was doing.
852
00:55:16,688 --> 00:55:18,148
I went to the festival.
853
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:23,820
I felt like a medieval knight.
854
00:55:23,904 --> 00:55:26,823
I felt like Joan of Arc
who was going into battle.
855
00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:37,960
I sat close behind the doctor.
856
00:55:45,842 --> 00:55:50,264
The festivities took their known pattern.
857
00:55:50,889 --> 00:55:54,309
There was enormous noise, music, dancing.
858
00:55:59,314 --> 00:56:03,277
And as Bhagwan stood up to leave,
859
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,822
and everybody cheered
and waved their hands
860
00:56:06,905 --> 00:56:09,992
in absolute ecstasy and joy...
861
00:56:11,326 --> 00:56:17,541
I approached Deva Raj
and said something into his ear.
862
00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:22,462
And as he leaned towards me,
I pushed the syringe.
863
00:56:26,883 --> 00:56:29,428
He instantly grabbed behind him,
864
00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:31,805
grabbed my hand with the syringe in it,
865
00:56:31,888 --> 00:56:33,599
and there was a bit of a struggle,
866
00:56:33,682 --> 00:56:37,519
but I got it out again and threw it away.
867
00:56:37,603 --> 00:56:40,647
The woman who had arranged to pick it up,
picked it up.
868
00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:48,030
I behaved to Deva Raj
as though nothing had happened.
869
00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:52,075
I looked at him quizzically,
"What's wrong with you?
870
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:53,869
What are you-- What's the problem?"
871
00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:58,081
He stood up, staggered, walked backwards.
872
00:56:58,165 --> 00:56:59,207
I followed him.
873
00:57:00,042 --> 00:57:02,169
"What's wrong with you?
What's the problem?
874
00:57:03,337 --> 00:57:05,339
What is-- What's the problem?"
875
00:57:06,131 --> 00:57:08,300
And as he staggered away from me...
876
00:57:10,761 --> 00:57:12,971
I turned and walked away.
877
00:57:13,388 --> 00:57:14,848
I walked through the crowd.
878
00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:17,100
I walked out the other side.
879
00:57:17,476 --> 00:57:21,730
And I walked
back to Jesus Grove where I lived.
880
00:57:21,813 --> 00:57:23,231
Completely alone.
881
00:57:24,983 --> 00:57:27,611
Nobody spoke to me and I spoke to nobody.
882
00:57:27,986 --> 00:57:29,404
And I wanted to be alone.
883
00:57:29,988 --> 00:57:32,991
There was the part of me who felt...
884
00:57:34,076 --> 00:57:35,911
I had saved Bhagwan's life.
885
00:57:36,495 --> 00:57:38,330
I had done what I had to do.
886
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:42,709
But deep inside of me, I was shattered.
887
00:57:43,835 --> 00:57:47,631
I had grown up clearly understanding
888
00:57:47,714 --> 00:57:49,341
that thou shalt not kill.
889
00:57:50,968 --> 00:57:53,470
And now I had tried to kill somebody.
890
00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:56,598
What had happened?
891
00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:02,396
I knew... I had gone beyond the pale.
892
00:58:02,479 --> 00:58:05,315
I knew I had stepped over the line.
893
00:58:07,192 --> 00:58:11,196
And on that day,
I also knew I had to leave.
894
00:58:20,288 --> 00:58:25,085
When you seesome photos of me in last months,
895
00:58:25,669 --> 00:58:27,421
I was worn out.
896
00:58:30,507 --> 00:58:32,718
I was totally heartbroken.
897
00:58:35,095 --> 00:58:38,306
Every night, my mother would come.
898
00:58:39,766 --> 00:58:41,810
She sits on my bed...
899
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:45,188
and pours tears,
900
00:58:45,272 --> 00:58:47,774
"If you will continue like this...
901
00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:51,153
you will die soon."
902
00:58:53,405 --> 00:58:56,867
I can still see my mother's pain.
903
00:59:00,287 --> 00:59:01,329
This was...
904
00:59:04,458 --> 00:59:08,587
the straw that broke camel's back.
905
00:59:09,671 --> 00:59:12,674
Two days after, I left Rajneeshpuram.
906
00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:22,392
Those last two days...
907
00:59:25,103 --> 00:59:26,521
they were full of pain.
908
00:59:32,903 --> 00:59:34,237
To leave Bhagwan...
909
00:59:35,822 --> 00:59:39,076
a man I thought was unsep--
910
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:41,661
Unseparable from me.
911
00:59:43,413 --> 00:59:46,083
I'm taking the decision to leave.
912
00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:50,921
I'm taking decision to leave
913
00:59:51,004 --> 00:59:54,883
from all these beautiful people
who love me.
914
00:59:56,885 --> 01:00:00,514
I knew I would be excommunicated.
915
01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:04,142
But I'm leaving.
916
01:00:06,561 --> 01:00:11,399
I had learned from Bhagwan,
burn your bridges.
917
01:00:13,652 --> 01:00:15,070
Go forward.
918
01:00:27,874 --> 01:00:32,462
Sheela and her closest associates took off
in broad daylight aboard this airplane,
919
01:00:32,546 --> 01:00:36,216
leaving Rajneeshees to wonder
what other secrets they left behind.
920
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:40,011
Sheela was looking very serious.
921
01:00:41,096 --> 01:00:44,015
And I looked around--
I didn't know what was happening.
922
01:00:44,099 --> 01:00:45,725
I said, "What's happening?"
923
01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:48,270
And Sheela looked at me
and she said, "I'm leaving."
924
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:51,648
And in that minute, it just came.
925
01:00:51,731 --> 01:00:53,900
I said, "If you're leaving,
I'm leaving too."
926
01:00:55,777 --> 01:01:00,240
Thirteenth of September, 1985
927
01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:03,160
was my personal independence day.
928
01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:09,249
That was the day I left Bhagwan.
929
01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:15,088
The main peoplewho work with me day and night,
930
01:01:15,172 --> 01:01:17,132
they left with me.
931
01:01:17,215 --> 01:01:21,761
Their loyalty to Bhagwan,
they had transferred it to me...
932
01:01:23,221 --> 01:01:27,058
because they saw genuine loyalty in me.
933
01:01:27,976 --> 01:01:29,436
The pilot who flew them out says
934
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:31,354
they left with 20 pieces of luggage.
935
01:01:31,438 --> 01:01:34,816
About 100 Rajneesheesgathered here to see them off.
936
01:01:34,900 --> 01:01:37,903
Once in the air, the former presidentof the commune was heard to say,
937
01:01:37,986 --> 01:01:40,113
"At least we left like queens."
938
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:45,076
When I came to work, somebodytold me that Sheela had left the ranch
939
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,329
and a bunch of her peoplehad gone with her.
940
01:01:47,412 --> 01:01:48,705
And I...
941
01:01:52,542 --> 01:01:54,753
I thought that--
I mean, I was just-- I was...
942
01:01:57,422 --> 01:01:58,840
aghast-- Not--
943
01:01:58,924 --> 01:02:03,303
I-- I was just in shock that Sheela
would just up and leave overnight.
944
01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:05,513
The commune is rocked by news
945
01:02:05,597 --> 01:02:08,683
that Bhagwan's fiery personal secretary,Ma Anand Sheela,
946
01:02:08,767 --> 01:02:11,645
has left Rajneeshpuram with group leaders.
947
01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:14,356
But once my daughterand I were on the plane
948
01:02:14,439 --> 01:02:19,861
and the break had been really made,
I was overwhelmed.
949
01:02:19,945 --> 01:02:22,030
I had left the master.
950
01:02:22,113 --> 01:02:24,241
This is impossible.
951
01:02:24,324 --> 01:02:26,284
We were flying away.
952
01:02:26,368 --> 01:02:30,830
We were flying to a new life
and we didn't know what it was.
953
01:02:30,914 --> 01:02:34,167
Time had come.
I had to go on my own.
954
01:02:34,751 --> 01:02:37,963
I had to figure out life for myself.
955
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:46,638
And after I left Bhagwan,
956
01:02:47,931 --> 01:02:51,351
we never cross each other's path again.
957
01:02:54,271 --> 01:02:57,440
The person who was Sheela's secretary
958
01:02:57,524 --> 01:03:00,568
called Lao Tzu house
and made an appointment to speak to Osho
959
01:03:00,652 --> 01:03:03,405
and went up and spoke to Osho
and told him what was going on.
960
01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:07,701
And he was not happy. He was--
He was--
961
01:03:09,494 --> 01:03:12,747
He had vengeance.
He was going to prosecute.
962
01:03:12,831 --> 01:03:16,501
He was interested in getting her.
He wanted her caught.
963
01:03:16,584 --> 01:03:21,589
And within 24 hours of a lot
of that information coming to him,
964
01:03:21,673 --> 01:03:23,466
he came out and spoke.
965
01:03:25,468 --> 01:03:28,096
I fully expected the shit to hit the fan.
966
01:03:29,431 --> 01:03:32,183
The leader of the sect
is Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh.
967
01:03:32,267 --> 01:03:34,644
He has been something of a mystery
to say the least.
968
01:03:34,728 --> 01:03:37,188
He has not spoken publicly in four years,
969
01:03:37,272 --> 01:03:40,442
but now, for reasons
that are not entirely clear to us,
970
01:03:40,525 --> 01:03:42,193
he has finally broken his silence.
971
01:03:42,277 --> 01:03:45,780
And there's more going on at the ranch.
The Bhagwan silence is over.
972
01:03:46,448 --> 01:03:49,409
News 8 learned this afternoonthat just two hours from now
973
01:03:49,492 --> 01:03:52,329
the Bhagwan will begin speakingto Rajneeshee faithful.
974
01:03:52,746 --> 01:03:55,373
We're gonna be having
a press conference this evening.
975
01:03:55,457 --> 01:03:57,792
And it's going to be with Bhagwan.
976
01:03:57,876 --> 01:04:00,628
We're just announcing it to the press
in case they want to come.
977
01:04:42,087 --> 01:04:47,133
I have been silent
for three and a half years.
978
01:04:47,217 --> 01:04:49,844
The people who were in power
979
01:04:50,553 --> 01:04:54,599
took advantage of my silence.
980
01:04:56,059 --> 01:04:58,144
Sheela and her group,
981
01:04:58,228 --> 01:05:01,398
they tried to kill three people.
982
01:05:04,776 --> 01:05:06,611
They have attempted
983
01:05:08,363 --> 01:05:11,658
to murder people in the commune.
984
01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:18,039
They have attempted
to murder people in The Dalles.
985
01:05:18,123 --> 01:05:22,627
They have attempted
bugging people's houses.
986
01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:25,380
My own house.
987
01:05:27,507 --> 01:05:31,219
These people are absolutely criminals.
988
01:05:35,473 --> 01:05:36,516
Inhuman.
989
01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:39,894
Brutal.
990
01:05:42,814 --> 01:05:45,442
Fascist in their outlook.
991
01:05:47,444 --> 01:05:49,904
On a different level,
the news out of Rajneeshpuram
992
01:05:49,988 --> 01:05:51,698
is getting more bizarre every day.
993
01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:54,617
The number one sourceof new rumors is Bhagwan himself.
994
01:05:54,701 --> 01:05:57,370
Just about every appearance,there's a new accusation.
995
01:05:57,454 --> 01:06:00,498
A palace coup,
alleged theft of millions of dollars.
996
01:06:00,582 --> 01:06:03,960
The whereabouts of Ma Anand Sheela
are still a mystery tonight.
997
01:06:04,043 --> 01:06:06,629
According to Bhagwan,
it was all the work of Sheela
998
01:06:06,713 --> 01:06:08,965
and what he calls her gang of fascists.
999
01:06:10,758 --> 01:06:13,761
She should have been here and faced me.
1000
01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:21,394
She did not even come
to say goodbye to me.
1001
01:06:27,275 --> 01:06:31,779
People who don't commit crime
don't escape like that.
1002
01:06:33,948 --> 01:06:35,783
How long you can hide?
1003
01:06:38,828 --> 01:06:42,457
And if the police
is not going to take the action...
1004
01:06:44,584 --> 01:06:47,003
then my people will take the action.
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