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Well, now, as we come towards
the end of this evening on BBC 1,
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Michael Fish takes a late
look at the weather.
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Again, a good deal of cloud.
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A little rain from time to time
for much of the day,
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but later on that rain is going
to become ever more persistent
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and eventually,
I think that rain
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will probably turn out to be
fairly heavy.
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What you've seen in any
documentary about any band,
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before or since, is how great
and wonderful everything is.
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It's not the truth of it.
It's hell, it's hard.
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It's horrible.
It's enjoyable to a small degree
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but if you know what you're
doing it for,
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you'll tolerate all that
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because the work, at the end
of the day, is what matters.
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We managed to offend
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all the people we were
fucking fed up with.
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The Labour Party, who'd promised
so much after the war
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had done so little
for the working class
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that the working class were
confused about even themselves
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and didn't even understand what
working class meant anymore.
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It was cold and miserable.
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No one had any jobs.
You couldn't get job.
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Everyone was on the dole.
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If you weren't born into money,
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then you might as well have kissed
your fucking life goodbye,
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you weren't gonna amount
to anything.
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The germ, the seed
of the Sex Pistols
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generated from that.
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Now is the winter
of our discontent
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made glorious summer...
By this sun of York.
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England was in a state
of social upheaval.
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It was a very, very
different time.
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Total social chaos.
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There was rioting
all over the place.
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You have to join
the picket line.
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There were strikes on every kind
of amenity you could think of.
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Pound power.
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The TV channels would
go on and off randomly.
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People were fed up
with the old way.
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The old way was clearly
not working.
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There's a little bit
sticking up there.
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You can see it
in the reflection.
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Ultra Bright gets you noticed.
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You're told at school,
you're told at the job center,
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you're told by everyone
that you don't stand a chance.
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And you should just accept
your lot, and get on with it.
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That's where you're gonna get
the social strife.
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Hate and war...
and race hate.
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When you feel powerless...
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you will grab any power
you can...
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to retain some kind
of self-respect.
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Want something on how many
people have been mugged?
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Don't lay your hand on me...
I'll break your fucking jaw!
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That man is sad
'cause he's misinformed,
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and he's misled, and he's used.
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Yes... I am a racialist.
And why?
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Who's made me a racialist?
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This government...
The conservatives,
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and every stingy,
stinking councilor
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who sticks up for the nigger.
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And I'll stand by my words,
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'cause I don't like these people,
never will do!
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Words are my weapons.
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Violence is something
I'm not very good at.
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I don't think you can explain
how things happen,
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other than sometimes
they just should,
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and the Sex Pistols
should have happened, and did.
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We went out in the garden.
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Get off your arse!
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I was born
in Queen Charlotte's Hospital
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on September 3rd, 1955...
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And I lived with my mother
and my stepfather
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who I thought was my dad,
in the basement
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in Shepherd's Bush.
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And I slept at the edge
of their bed on a camp bed.
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My real dad, he bailed
when I was two.
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His name was Don Jarvis.
He was an amateur boxer.
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I definitely didn't feel
wanted as a child.
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Well, I was born and raised
around West London,
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the Shepherd's Bush
and Hammersmith area.
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It was typically working class.
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I met Steve 'cause we lived around
the corner from each other.
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I went to school
near Paul and Steve,
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next to Wormwood Scrubs Prison.
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Me dad was a factory worker,
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and mum worked at
a powder puff factory.
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If you were to look back at me
as a school kid,
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you'd see a very shy, quiet,
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little church mouse kind of
character in North London.
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Irish immigrant parents.
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My mum taught me
to read and write
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after meningitis, a serious
illness I had at seven,
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when I was in a coma for a year.
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When I came out of hospital,
I was completely brain wiped...
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Old memories had been erased...
Didn't remember anything at all.
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Just backwards in everything.
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It was like having to start
all over again.
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# Pictures of Lily... #
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How does it get from the man
to the egg?
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I actually got put back a year
'cause I was so stupid.
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And I would never pay
any attention in class,
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I was just always daydreaming.
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Steve was quite wild at 1 0,
1 1 years old.
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I think he was always getting
into trouble then.
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You should make sure that you've
got the thing around the right way.
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On the other hand...
I got four fingers and a thumb.
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I question everything,
I always have done.
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If we were doing Shakespeare,
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a teacher would give me
a hard time,
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and he wouldn't tell me
what I wanted to know.
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I'd ask outright questions,
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and you're not supposed
to do that.
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You're just supposed to accept,
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"It's Shakespeare.
It's great, you're not."
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That's not good enough for me.
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I would steal. I mean,
that's all I knew how to do.
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I used to watch my parents steal
at Tescos when I was six.
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And I was always
getting in trouble.
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And so that's all
there was... music.
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# Flavors of the
mountain streamline... #
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I was totally into music...
Roxy Music and Bowie.
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I thought that musicians fell
from the sky at that point.
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I didn't think anyone
could be a musician.
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# School's out forever! #
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I was very quiet at school
up until about 14 or 1 5,
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when I decided I'd had enough.
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I knew we were being
fobbed off...
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and basically given a shoddy
third-rate version of reality.
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So you would not be capable
of questioning your future,
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because you didn't have one.
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My mother loved Alice Cooper
as much as I did.
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She had an extremely
varied taste for everything
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from Irish folk music
to T. Rex...
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To some early Bowie.
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Lots of the heavy metal
that was around at the time,
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everything.
Extremely Catholic taste.
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# I want all you skinheads
to get up on your feet #
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# Put your braces together
and your boots on your feet #
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There was a lot of black kids
down Shepherd's Bush,
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and we used to go
to their parties
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and listen to ska music.
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It sort of developed
from there really,
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I think, our interest in music.
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I think it was Wally...
the famous Wally Nightingale,
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who said,
"Well, let's start a band."
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At the time, Wally said
Steve would be the singer,
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and I would be on drums.
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Wally actually played guitar,
and so it was up to each of us
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to go off and learn
our instruments.
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We used to rehearse
and rehearse,
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and just kind of like,
fantasize, really.
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If I wanted to wear something
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that T. Rex was wearing
the week before,
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I'd go down King's Road
and fucking steal it.
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I always used to end up
at "Let It Rock" which was owned
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by Malcolm McLaren
and Vivienne Westwood.
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All the other shops we went in
down King's Road,
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you'd walk in and you'd get
1 0 poofs on you,
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asking you what you want,
"Can I help you?"
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That's why we'd always
end up at Vivienne's,
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because it was like a hang-out.
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I liked the clothes,
they were different.
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It weren't all flares
and kipper ties.
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It was Teddy Boy clothes.
It was a lot more rebellious,
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and obviously
I was drawn to that.
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The Teddy Boy thing, for me,
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was all about the idea
of being a peacock,
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and standing out in the crowd,
but at the same time
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feeling a sense that you are
part of the dispossessed,
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which... at the end
of my art school term,
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I thought I could make
a profit by.
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I became friends with Malcolm
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because he had a lot
of contacts in music.
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He seemed to know everybody.
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He finds a way in
with his blague,
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which is perfect for a manager.
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I walked up and down
the King's Road
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with complete anger
and resentment.
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People were extremely absurd,
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and still stuck into flares
and platform shoes
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and neatly coiffured
longish hair,
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and pretending the world
wasn't really happening.
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It was an escapism
that I resented.
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There was also a garbage strike
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going on for years
and years and years,
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and there was trash piled
1 0 foot high.
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They seem to have missed that.
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Wear the garbage bag,
for God's sake...
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And then you're dealing with it.
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And that's what I
would be doing...
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I would wrap myself
basically in trash.
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And that so lamely
and unfashionable...
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that dogs bark at me
as I halt by them.
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I've got news for you.
Dogs bark at me.
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In a weird way, that whole
persona of, say, "Richard Ill"
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helped when I joined
the Sex Pistols.
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Deformed, hilarious,
grotesque...
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And the "Hunchback
of Notre Dame" is in there,
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and just bizarre characters
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that somehow or other,
through all of their deformities
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managed to achieve something.
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# ...Just for a short while #
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# She'll scratch in the sand #
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# Won't let go of his hand... #
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Steve was a kind
of a kleptomaniac, really.
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I'm sure he would be
diagnosed as that, you know,
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because he couldn't keep
his hands in his pockets...
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which was quite handy, really.
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We'd always know a way in round
the back of Hammersmith Odeon,
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being our local area.
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# The Jean Genie... #
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David Bowie was playing
the Ziggy farewell thing,
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and while the roadies
was asleep in the front row,
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he'd be going around on stage
snipping all the microphones off.
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We had great guitars,
amplifiers,
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great drum kits,
PA system, everything,
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but, you know, we couldn't
play it properly.
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To prevent myself
from being beaten up
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by what were Uxbridge Teddy Boys
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coming in,
pilfering in the store,
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I decided to go down
another route...
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Rubber and leather fetish wear.
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I felt that...
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that would look fun and exciting
on the King's Road
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because it would have
a similar effrontery
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that Teddy Boy clothes had,
except it would be new.
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Malcolm's shop interested me
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because of the rubber wear.
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Fascinating that people can get
themselves into such a predicament
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that the only way they can
have sex is in a face mask
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and a rubber T-shirt.
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With a bollock weight.
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How does it become that way?
It becomes like that for you
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because you just cannot
face reality.
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Steve just came back one day,
and said,
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"I found a bass player."
I said, "Who's that?"
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He said, "This guy, Glen,
who works in Malcolm's shop."
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Lo and behold, I started
rehearsing with them.
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They had so much equipment that
Steve had "assembled," shall we say?
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We were always pestering
Malcolm to manage us,
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and he said he'd be interested
if we got rid of Wally.
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He came down once, he said,
"You shouldn't sing,
243
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you should play guitar.
You should get a singer."
244
00:14:00,305 --> 00:14:03,141
We realized wally was gonna
have to go.
245
00:14:04,643 --> 00:14:07,270
Alas, poor...
246
00:14:07,312 --> 00:14:09,773
I knew him, Horatio.
247
00:14:09,815 --> 00:14:12,192
Round this time
there was a group of guys
248
00:14:12,234 --> 00:14:14,319
who came from the north side
of London,
249
00:14:14,361 --> 00:14:16,071
who used to come into the shop
250
00:14:16,113 --> 00:14:18,365
probably for the same reasons
we did,
251
00:14:18,407 --> 00:14:19,866
you know, on a Saturday,
whatever...
252
00:14:19,908 --> 00:14:22,828
there was the group of them,
apparently all called "John."
253
00:14:22,869 --> 00:14:25,789
Steve and Paul never believed
we were all called John...
254
00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:28,125
They could never take that.
255
00:14:28,166 --> 00:14:30,127
Sid's real name is John.
256
00:14:30,168 --> 00:14:31,878
They just thought we were
257
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,340
like a "Clockwork Orange" gang,
you know... "The Johns."
258
00:14:36,341 --> 00:14:39,636
I've no idea why
they picked me out...
259
00:14:39,678 --> 00:14:43,682
other than they thought I looked
well different from the pack.
260
00:14:44,725 --> 00:14:47,269
We arranged to meet John
one night...
261
00:14:47,310 --> 00:14:49,187
in a pub just down the road.
262
00:14:49,229 --> 00:14:52,524
We had a few pints, and then
we came back to the shop.
263
00:14:53,567 --> 00:14:56,069
We gave the singer an audition
264
00:14:56,111 --> 00:14:59,406
in my shop, later on,
after the pub had closed,
265
00:14:59,448 --> 00:15:01,533
for him to imitate,
266
00:15:01,575 --> 00:15:04,536
and for him to try to sing along
267
00:15:04,578 --> 00:15:07,581
with an Alice Cooper track
on the jukebox
268
00:15:07,622 --> 00:15:10,292
called "Eighteen",
which I adored.
269
00:15:10,333 --> 00:15:13,837
And he sung it like
"The Hunchback of Notre Dame."
270
00:15:16,214 --> 00:15:18,467
# I'm eighteen #
271
00:15:18,508 --> 00:15:21,094
# And I don't know what I want #
272
00:15:21,136 --> 00:15:23,555
I always did view myself
273
00:15:23,597 --> 00:15:26,558
as one damn ugly fucker.
274
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,312
I certainly weren't
no belle of the ball.
275
00:15:30,353 --> 00:15:32,706
John just started...
276
00:15:32,731 --> 00:15:35,442
going into spasms
in front of the jukebox,
277
00:15:35,484 --> 00:15:37,694
and singing, and doing his act,
278
00:15:37,736 --> 00:15:40,572
what later became what everyone
knows and loves, you know.
279
00:15:41,656 --> 00:15:44,868
And I knew right away then
that he was the singer.
280
00:15:44,910 --> 00:15:47,871
He was... gonna be the one,
really.
281
00:15:48,872 --> 00:15:51,166
I personally wouldn't
have got him in the band,
282
00:15:51,208 --> 00:15:53,059
even though he looked
like a star.
283
00:15:53,084 --> 00:15:56,797
I thought he was a wanker for taking
the piss, and he wasn't serious...
284
00:15:56,838 --> 00:15:59,216
But then, after speaking to him
for a while,
285
00:15:59,257 --> 00:16:01,676
I realize that
that was his own insecurity
286
00:16:01,718 --> 00:16:04,805
to take the piss because
he wasn't really a singer.
287
00:16:06,765 --> 00:16:09,242
John was from a different world
from me and Cookie.
288
00:16:09,267 --> 00:16:11,978
He's more of an intellectual,
John.
289
00:16:13,188 --> 00:16:15,857
I knew what Steve was.
290
00:16:15,899 --> 00:16:20,070
I knew he had potential
to be a great person.
291
00:16:20,111 --> 00:16:23,365
There's something in him
that's genuine.
292
00:16:23,406 --> 00:16:28,078
I can see that there's a tragedy
in him, just like in me.
293
00:16:28,119 --> 00:16:31,498
Deep down inside,
they're wounded people.
294
00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:33,750
And then there's Glen...
295
00:16:33,792 --> 00:16:37,754
waffling on about nice things
like the Beatles.
296
00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:41,675
We're the very first people
to call each other cunts
297
00:16:41,716 --> 00:16:43,510
outright...
298
00:16:43,552 --> 00:16:46,179
Face on... and know it.
299
00:16:46,221 --> 00:16:49,766
And we are. We all are...
All in our way.
300
00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:51,935
You put all this
together, and it...
301
00:16:51,977 --> 00:16:56,189
it makes for high drama,
a bit like a Harold Pinter play.
302
00:16:56,231 --> 00:16:58,775
It shouldn't work, but it does.
303
00:17:23,508 --> 00:17:26,469
All our first rehearsals
were a nightmare.
304
00:17:26,511 --> 00:17:29,014
I couldn't hold a damn note,
305
00:17:29,055 --> 00:17:32,684
Paul couldn't really keep time,
I couldn't play guitar.
306
00:17:32,726 --> 00:17:36,563
I fucking hated it.
It was just a fucking noise,
307
00:17:36,605 --> 00:17:40,025
but I just stuck in there,
because that's all I had.
308
00:17:40,066 --> 00:17:42,277
# ...no lip, child #
309
00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:45,196
# And I mean what I say #
310
00:17:46,656 --> 00:17:49,159
# Don't give me no lip, child #
311
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,120
# You'll be sorry one day #
312
00:17:52,162 --> 00:17:55,457
Oh, fuck, it's awful.
I hate songs like that.
313
00:17:56,499 --> 00:17:59,352
Right from the start,
we'd argue...
314
00:17:59,377 --> 00:18:02,672
Bitterly, bitterly,
from day one rehearsal,
315
00:18:02,714 --> 00:18:04,799
pure, full-on row.
316
00:18:04,841 --> 00:18:07,052
It would be constantly,
317
00:18:07,093 --> 00:18:09,179
"You know, you've gotta
learn to sing."
318
00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:11,348
And it's like, "Why?"
319
00:18:11,389 --> 00:18:14,059
"Says who?
Who wrote the rules here?"
320
00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:18,438
But that's all right, you need
that difference of character.
321
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,149
I didn't think,
if I could be a sculptor,
322
00:18:21,191 --> 00:18:23,693
I necessarily needed clay...
323
00:18:23,735 --> 00:18:27,697
I suddenly thought,
"You can use people!"
324
00:18:27,739 --> 00:18:32,577
And it's people that I used,
like an artist.
325
00:18:32,619 --> 00:18:35,372
I manipulated.
326
00:18:35,413 --> 00:18:39,918
So, creating something
called the "Sex Pistols"
327
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,005
was my painting, my sculpture,
328
00:18:44,047 --> 00:18:45,966
my little "Artful Dodgers."
329
00:18:46,007 --> 00:18:49,552
Humph... you don't create me...
330
00:18:49,594 --> 00:18:51,638
I am me.
331
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,640
There is a difference.
332
00:18:53,682 --> 00:18:57,602
Everyone on the planet
knows Malcolm's full of shit.
333
00:18:57,644 --> 00:19:00,397
He's convinced people now
that he's full of shit,
334
00:19:00,438 --> 00:19:03,650
by all the shit that he says,
it gets worse and worse.
335
00:19:03,692 --> 00:19:06,361
And the idea of the name
"Sex Pistols"
336
00:19:06,403 --> 00:19:10,782
was sexy young assassins.
"Pistol" meaning a gun...
337
00:19:11,783 --> 00:19:14,953
And then "pistol" meaning
a kind of penis.
338
00:19:14,995 --> 00:19:18,832
There was never a relationship
with the manager... for me,
339
00:19:18,873 --> 00:19:22,002
other than he would always try
to steal my ideas,
340
00:19:22,043 --> 00:19:24,087
and claim them to be his own.
341
00:19:24,129 --> 00:19:27,007
I had to accept
that he was the manager
342
00:19:27,048 --> 00:19:30,802
because he was their manager
before I joined the band.
343
00:19:30,844 --> 00:19:33,138
I think they're the same
fucking star sign.
344
00:19:33,179 --> 00:19:35,390
They're the same kind
of personality.
345
00:19:35,432 --> 00:19:37,308
They were always butting heads.
346
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:40,145
It was definitely John
who steered the ship
347
00:19:40,186 --> 00:19:41,855
into the way we looked.
348
00:19:41,896 --> 00:19:45,442
Torn, safety pin,
zips all over the gaff,
349
00:19:45,483 --> 00:19:47,610
third rate tramp thing.
350
00:19:47,652 --> 00:19:50,780
That was poverty, really.
Lack of money.
351
00:19:50,822 --> 00:19:53,116
The arse of your
pants falls out,
352
00:19:53,158 --> 00:19:55,744
you just use safety pins.
353
00:19:55,785 --> 00:19:57,912
And I always used
to call him "rotten,"
354
00:19:57,954 --> 00:20:00,306
'cause his fucking teeth
were like, dreadful,
355
00:20:00,331 --> 00:20:02,308
they looked like dog-ends,
356
00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:04,794
and... it just stuck.
357
00:20:04,836 --> 00:20:08,757
Steve always looked like
a hairdresser on the high road.
358
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,592
He had a perm,
359
00:20:10,633 --> 00:20:13,011
and unfortunately,
it became permanent.
360
00:20:17,015 --> 00:20:19,684
I don't have any heroes.
361
00:20:19,726 --> 00:20:21,770
They're all useless.
362
00:20:21,811 --> 00:20:24,022
I mean, there's no bands around,
is there?
363
00:20:24,064 --> 00:20:25,732
None.
364
00:20:25,774 --> 00:20:27,667
None that are accessible.
365
00:20:27,692 --> 00:20:30,153
It's Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
366
00:20:34,824 --> 00:20:36,993
All those super bands
at that time...
367
00:20:37,035 --> 00:20:41,247
Emerson, Lake and Palmer,
Yes... they were dinosaurs,
368
00:20:41,289 --> 00:20:44,667
They were dreadful, because
they were fucking boring.
369
00:20:44,709 --> 00:20:48,671
Uriah Heep...
Fucking, you know... Gong!
370
00:20:48,713 --> 00:20:52,592
I wanted the Sex Pistols
to compete
371
00:20:52,634 --> 00:20:54,928
with the Bay City Rollers!
372
00:20:54,969 --> 00:20:59,182
Can you imagine Johnny Rotten
singing "Shang-a-Lang"?
373
00:21:00,433 --> 00:21:02,685
# Shang-a-Lang #
374
00:21:04,270 --> 00:21:06,189
# Shang-a-Lang #
375
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:09,359
# Shang-a-Lang, shang-a-Lang #
376
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,194
Ugh-hh!
377
00:21:11,236 --> 00:21:14,489
Stradivarius...
Was a terrible painter...
378
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,830
and Rembrandt...
Made rotten violins.
379
00:21:22,872 --> 00:21:25,166
I got interested in the arts,
380
00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:27,752
and ended up going
to St. Martin's for a year.
381
00:21:27,794 --> 00:21:30,255
I walked in there and asked
to see the social secretary,
382
00:21:30,296 --> 00:21:32,257
and this guy said,
"Well, I am."
383
00:21:32,298 --> 00:21:34,551
And it was Sebastian Conran.
384
00:21:34,592 --> 00:21:36,528
And he said, "Well, what's
the name of your band?"
385
00:21:36,553 --> 00:21:38,930
And I said, "The Sex Pistols,"
and Sebastian went...
386
00:21:38,972 --> 00:21:42,559
"The Sex Pistols?
Oh, we must have them."
387
00:21:43,768 --> 00:21:47,230
I remembered being
just fucking terrified,
388
00:21:47,272 --> 00:21:50,233
and I had to take a Mandrax
to calm down.
389
00:21:50,942 --> 00:21:52,569
Hello.
390
00:21:53,611 --> 00:21:56,030
Hello, I'm pissed again.
391
00:21:56,072 --> 00:21:59,075
I think I took two Mandrax.
We went up there,
392
00:21:59,117 --> 00:22:02,095
and it was all these arty-farty
fuckers in this one room.
393
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,038
There was no stage,
394
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,374
and there was another band
called "Bazooka Joe"
395
00:22:06,416 --> 00:22:08,268
that Adam Ant
was the bass player in,
396
00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:10,503
and we were all
knocking the pints back...
397
00:22:10,545 --> 00:22:13,506
And it was time to go on,
and the Mandrax were kicking in,
398
00:22:13,548 --> 00:22:15,550
and we started playing...
399
00:22:16,426 --> 00:22:19,429
# ...you to know
that I ain't your baby #
400
00:22:19,470 --> 00:22:22,390
# I want you to know
I don't care #
401
00:22:27,854 --> 00:22:30,148
I remembered looking
at John, and thinking,
402
00:22:30,190 --> 00:22:32,609
"This is fucking fantastic.
I love this."
403
00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:34,694
It was like one of them
magical moments.
404
00:22:34,736 --> 00:22:37,989
Everything in the universe
fucking clicked.
405
00:22:38,031 --> 00:22:40,491
# What'cha gonna do
about it... #
406
00:22:41,576 --> 00:22:45,288
Glen definitely wanted to be
on "Top of the Pops."
407
00:22:46,497 --> 00:22:49,542
# I want you to know
I don't care... #
408
00:22:49,584 --> 00:22:52,629
# I want you to know
that I love you baby... #
409
00:22:52,670 --> 00:22:54,714
To me, that's really naff.
410
00:22:54,756 --> 00:22:58,092
It's saying, "I want you to know
I don't care"
411
00:22:58,134 --> 00:23:00,720
Comes quite naturally.
412
00:23:00,762 --> 00:23:04,098
If I take other people's songs,
I put a twist on them.
413
00:23:10,688 --> 00:23:13,441
Finally... we're actually
playing in a band,
414
00:23:13,483 --> 00:23:16,336
I ain't the singer,
I'm comfortable playing the guitar...
415
00:23:16,361 --> 00:23:18,363
Mind you, I was fucked up...
416
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,746
And next thing I know,
they've pulled the plug on us,
417
00:23:26,788 --> 00:23:29,082
and it was all over.
We're just like out of it,
418
00:23:29,123 --> 00:23:32,085
and wandering around
down Piccadilly Circus.
419
00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:35,922
I die of nerves
before I go on stage,
420
00:23:35,964 --> 00:23:38,858
cause I don't know
what I'm gonna do.
421
00:23:38,883 --> 00:23:42,428
And because of that,
I'd have to just pull things out
422
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:45,640
from deep down inside.
423
00:23:45,682 --> 00:23:50,186
Hello... # 76 trombones
to the hit parade #
424
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:55,233
Look, there's Arthur Askey
in there.
425
00:23:55,275 --> 00:23:58,361
There's Ken Dodd...
# We are the Daddymen... #
426
00:23:58,403 --> 00:24:00,822
# We come from Notty Ash #
427
00:24:00,863 --> 00:24:02,156
There's even...
428
00:24:02,198 --> 00:24:04,701
"There's nothing wrong
with me."
429
00:24:04,742 --> 00:24:06,786
- Do we know any...
- Oi...
430
00:24:06,828 --> 00:24:09,831
Do we know any other
fucking songs that we could do?
431
00:24:09,872 --> 00:24:13,293
What England didn't understand
about the Sex Pistols
432
00:24:13,334 --> 00:24:15,962
is that we are music hall.
433
00:24:16,004 --> 00:24:18,131
Shall we do "Roadrunner"?
434
00:24:19,173 --> 00:24:22,218
I hate that.
It's fucking awful. Stop it.
435
00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:24,887
Stop it, it's fucking awful!
436
00:24:27,515 --> 00:24:31,352
There was always a sense
of piss take, and fun to it.
437
00:24:31,394 --> 00:24:34,439
Shout out what... how it starts.
What's the first line?
438
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,067
There's a sense of comedy
in the English,
439
00:24:38,109 --> 00:24:41,029
even in your grimmest moment.
440
00:24:41,070 --> 00:24:43,364
Right... can you start
at the beginning?
441
00:24:45,033 --> 00:24:46,451
I can't hear you, Paul.
442
00:24:46,492 --> 00:24:48,077
You laugh.
443
00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:52,749
Who wants a bunk-up?
444
00:24:54,083 --> 00:24:55,168
Who wants a bunk-up?
445
00:24:57,462 --> 00:24:59,130
Who wants a bunk-up?
446
00:24:59,172 --> 00:25:00,798
# With the radio on... #
447
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,216
"Deform'd, unfinish'd..."
448
00:25:02,258 --> 00:25:05,011
# Roadrunner, roadrunner...
449
00:25:06,804 --> 00:25:09,307
"Deform'd, unfinish'd..."
450
00:25:11,768 --> 00:25:14,103
Deform'd, unfinish'd...
451
00:25:15,688 --> 00:25:18,441
One week we'd be
playing up in high Wycombe
452
00:25:18,483 --> 00:25:20,610
opening up
for Screaming Lord Sutch,
453
00:25:20,651 --> 00:25:24,280
and I remember seeing
some faces, guys with long hair.
454
00:25:24,322 --> 00:25:27,617
"When all other indications
suggest..."
455
00:25:27,658 --> 00:25:29,911
When all other indications
suggest...
456
00:25:29,952 --> 00:25:32,997
Then, a week later,
we'd be playing at "The Nashville,"
457
00:25:34,624 --> 00:25:37,293
that we're in for a dirty night.
458
00:25:38,669 --> 00:25:40,004
"a dirty night."
459
00:25:40,046 --> 00:25:43,007
And I'd see the same people
with their hair cut short,
460
00:25:43,049 --> 00:25:45,385
and wearing a ripped-up t-shirt.
461
00:25:46,427 --> 00:25:49,138
# Goin' a thousand miles
an hour #
462
00:25:49,847 --> 00:25:53,267
Every gig you'd see a few more,
and a few more, and a few more,
463
00:25:53,309 --> 00:25:55,603
people who just got converted.
464
00:26:01,067 --> 00:26:06,030
The Sex Pistols definitely
created new environments.
465
00:26:08,491 --> 00:26:13,955
It was incredible good to see
the audience being individual.
466
00:26:13,996 --> 00:26:16,791
# ...radio on... #
467
00:26:16,833 --> 00:26:19,168
# Roadrunner, roadrunner... #
468
00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:20,837
"Ain't nothing wrong with me."
469
00:26:20,878 --> 00:26:23,464
Oh, God, I don't know it.
Fucking ridiculous.
470
00:26:23,506 --> 00:26:28,010
There was some absolutely stunning
original people out there.
471
00:26:29,262 --> 00:26:31,013
"There's nothing wrong with me."
472
00:26:32,056 --> 00:26:33,850
Sioux cat woman...
473
00:26:33,891 --> 00:26:37,353
That woman required a lot
of skill, style and bravery...
474
00:26:39,188 --> 00:26:41,315
to look like a cat.
475
00:26:50,992 --> 00:26:52,994
There was a couple
of years there
476
00:26:53,035 --> 00:26:54,871
where it was stunning.
477
00:26:54,912 --> 00:26:59,625
People that had no self-respect
suddenly started to view themselves
478
00:26:59,667 --> 00:27:02,879
as beautiful in
not being beautiful.
479
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,048
Women started
to appreciate themselves
480
00:27:06,090 --> 00:27:08,509
as not second class citizens.
481
00:27:08,551 --> 00:27:11,179
Punk made that clear.
482
00:27:13,848 --> 00:27:16,142
I've always talked
to the audience
483
00:27:16,184 --> 00:27:18,644
in a one-to-one way after gigs.
484
00:27:18,686 --> 00:27:21,397
"Where do you live?
What's life like for you?"
485
00:27:21,439 --> 00:27:23,900
Absolute basics.
486
00:27:24,817 --> 00:27:27,236
# She put her bicycle #
487
00:27:27,278 --> 00:27:29,572
# under a tree #
488
00:27:29,614 --> 00:27:33,034
# I think that girl took
a fancy to me... #
489
00:27:33,075 --> 00:27:35,077
But it was fun, I guess,
talking to them.
490
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,997
Actually, I didn't give a
fuck about talking about the band,
491
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,625
I just wanted to get
me dick sucked, really.
492
00:27:40,666 --> 00:27:43,419
That was always the first thing
on my mind.
493
00:27:43,461 --> 00:27:46,589
I wasn't interested in talking
about politics after the show,
494
00:27:46,631 --> 00:27:49,967
I didn't even know who the fucking
Prime Minister was at the time.
495
00:27:50,009 --> 00:27:52,803
# Let's have a ride
on your bike #
496
00:27:52,845 --> 00:27:55,556
I pretty much just wanted
to have a bunk-up,
497
00:27:55,598 --> 00:27:58,267
like any good teenager does.
498
00:27:59,143 --> 00:28:03,189
# I was born with a plastic
spoon in my mouth... #
499
00:28:11,822 --> 00:28:15,117
# You didn't look me
in the eye #
500
00:28:15,159 --> 00:28:18,829
# Crocodile tears
are what you cry #
501
00:28:22,959 --> 00:28:24,835
"Substitute" I liked...
502
00:28:24,877 --> 00:28:28,172
but I only liked
certain phrases in it.
503
00:28:28,214 --> 00:28:30,149
So I'd twist them about.
504
00:28:30,174 --> 00:28:33,427
# You're so fat,
I see right through... #
505
00:28:35,012 --> 00:28:39,308
"Oh, no you can't do that,
it's a classic,"
506
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:41,060
says Glen.
507
00:28:44,438 --> 00:28:46,148
Fuck off!
508
00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:55,616
I think when we started
writing our own stuff...
509
00:28:55,658 --> 00:28:58,244
is when it got more interesting.
510
00:28:59,203 --> 00:29:03,124
Because that's when it became
our own musical force.
511
00:29:05,418 --> 00:29:08,838
Glen was coming up with most
of the ideas for songs,
512
00:29:08,879 --> 00:29:11,007
and John would just be
sitting in the corner,
513
00:29:11,048 --> 00:29:12,925
scribbling his lyrics out,
there and then,
514
00:29:12,967 --> 00:29:14,427
while we were playing along
to it.
515
00:29:14,468 --> 00:29:16,512
We had something,
we had a spirit.
516
00:29:16,554 --> 00:29:18,889
But what we didn't have,
we didn't have a way
517
00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:21,017
of putting that into words...
518
00:29:21,058 --> 00:29:22,685
which is what John had.
519
00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:27,064
The first line I wrote,
was "I am an antichrist,"
520
00:29:27,106 --> 00:29:31,193
and I couldn't think of a damn
thing that rhymed with it,
521
00:29:31,235 --> 00:29:35,031
and "anarchist" just fitted
really nicely.
522
00:29:35,823 --> 00:29:37,992
The only thing I didn't like
about "Anarchy"
523
00:29:38,034 --> 00:29:40,036
was the dreadful rhyme...
524
00:29:40,077 --> 00:29:43,164
"antichrist... anarchist,"
it used to always make me wince.
525
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:48,753
Oh, some decent fucking music
at last!
526
00:29:54,342 --> 00:29:56,302
# Right... #
527
00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:58,220
# Now #
528
00:30:03,643 --> 00:30:07,104
# I am an antichrist #
529
00:30:07,146 --> 00:30:10,733
# I am an anarchist #
530
00:30:10,775 --> 00:30:14,487
# Don't know what I want,
but I know how to get it #
531
00:30:14,528 --> 00:30:17,990
# I wanna destroy passerby #
532
00:30:18,032 --> 00:30:21,243
# 'Cause I... #
533
00:30:21,285 --> 00:30:23,996
# Wanna be... #
534
00:30:25,247 --> 00:30:26,832
# Anarchy #
535
00:30:26,874 --> 00:30:28,918
This band wasn't about
making people happy,
536
00:30:28,959 --> 00:30:30,836
it was attack...
537
00:30:30,878 --> 00:30:32,963
Attack, attack, attack.
538
00:30:33,589 --> 00:30:36,801
# Anarchy for the UK #
539
00:30:36,842 --> 00:30:40,721
# It's coming sometime maybe #
540
00:30:40,763 --> 00:30:44,433
# I give a wrong time,
stop a traffic line #
541
00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:48,062
# Your future dream
is a shopping scheme #
542
00:30:48,104 --> 00:30:51,023
# 'Cause I... #
543
00:30:51,065 --> 00:30:53,526
# I wanna be... #
544
00:30:54,985 --> 00:30:57,780
# Anarchy #
545
00:31:05,788 --> 00:31:09,458
Sid, he was the total
Pistols fan, really.
546
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,961
I fucking loved that band.
547
00:31:12,002 --> 00:31:14,422
Along with a couple
of other kids that knew John,
548
00:31:14,463 --> 00:31:18,217
I think I was about the biggest
fan they ever had.
549
00:31:23,347 --> 00:31:27,268
# How many ways to get
what you want #
550
00:31:27,309 --> 00:31:30,563
# I use the best
I use the rest... #
551
00:31:30,604 --> 00:31:33,315
Rotten was like, incredible.
552
00:31:33,357 --> 00:31:35,835
Just like unbelievable.
553
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:38,946
And Steve was fucking great
as well.
554
00:31:38,988 --> 00:31:41,449
Glen was a cunt, as always.
555
00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:44,994
# Wanna be... #
556
00:31:45,035 --> 00:31:47,413
# Anarchy #
557
00:31:47,455 --> 00:31:50,624
What made the Sex Pistols
different was John Rotten,
558
00:31:50,666 --> 00:31:53,519
'cause he was a total anti-star.
559
00:31:53,544 --> 00:31:56,213
He didn't like wiggle his bum
or shake his hips,
560
00:31:56,255 --> 00:31:59,508
he did robot dances,
and just fucked around,
561
00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:01,635
and took the piss
out of everybody
562
00:32:01,677 --> 00:32:04,597
in a real nasty, snidy way.
563
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,104
# Is this the MPLA #
564
00:32:12,146 --> 00:32:16,150
# Or is this the UDA #
565
00:32:16,192 --> 00:32:19,737
# Or is this the IRA #
566
00:32:19,779 --> 00:32:23,616
# I thought it was the UK... #
567
00:32:26,744 --> 00:32:30,247
The Bromley Contingent
all the front row lot,
568
00:32:30,289 --> 00:32:32,541
they all ended up in bands,
569
00:32:32,583 --> 00:32:36,086
hence you got the punk movement.
570
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,595
# I am an antichrist #
571
00:32:44,637 --> 00:32:47,723
# I am an anarchist #
572
00:32:47,765 --> 00:32:50,935
To see us playing like,
just three chords
573
00:32:50,976 --> 00:32:53,687
gave the message that anybody
could do this.
574
00:32:53,729 --> 00:32:56,023
Which was great...
All these other bands started...
575
00:32:56,065 --> 00:32:58,484
I enjoyed watching the Clash,
I enjoyed the Damned.
576
00:32:58,526 --> 00:33:01,420
It just happened so quick,
and it was so exciting,
577
00:33:01,445 --> 00:33:05,324
you'd think, "Wow, there's
really a movement starting here."
578
00:33:10,454 --> 00:33:12,431
One chick came down one night
579
00:33:12,456 --> 00:33:15,876
wearing a polka dot
see-through mac...
580
00:33:15,918 --> 00:33:18,087
And nothing else.
581
00:33:18,128 --> 00:33:22,424
I actually saw one tourist
stagger as she came into the club.
582
00:33:22,466 --> 00:33:25,010
He was so amazed
by her appearance.
583
00:33:29,223 --> 00:33:31,392
Sid was amazing, because he was
584
00:33:31,433 --> 00:33:33,769
a stand out character
in the crowd,
585
00:33:33,811 --> 00:33:35,354
because he wasn't
in the band then.
586
00:33:35,396 --> 00:33:37,231
He invented the pogo
all by himself.
587
00:33:37,273 --> 00:33:39,733
He'd just sort of jump on
the shoulders of some people
588
00:33:39,775 --> 00:33:41,443
to get a better look.
589
00:33:41,485 --> 00:33:44,154
In the end he just started
jumping up and down anyway.
590
00:33:44,196 --> 00:33:47,283
Yeah, I started it 'cause
I hated the Bromley Contingent,
591
00:33:47,324 --> 00:33:49,368
and I invented a dance
that would involve
592
00:33:49,410 --> 00:33:53,122
being able to knock them
all over the fucking "1 00 Club,"
593
00:33:53,163 --> 00:33:55,791
so I just used to
throw myself about.
594
00:33:55,833 --> 00:33:58,502
Leap up like horizontal,
and sideways,
595
00:33:58,544 --> 00:34:00,296
just like boing...
596
00:34:00,337 --> 00:34:02,172
Boing, boing, boing.
597
00:34:02,214 --> 00:34:05,509
You'd like land on them,
and smash them into the floor.
598
00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:08,095
Yeah...
599
00:34:08,137 --> 00:34:10,264
My name is Nick Kent.
600
00:34:10,306 --> 00:34:12,308
I'm a...
601
00:34:12,349 --> 00:34:15,853
A once-renowned journalist
for "The New Musical Express."
602
00:34:15,895 --> 00:34:18,230
Well, Sid, as he was known then,
603
00:34:18,272 --> 00:34:22,443
who I'd encountered once before,
I'd not actually met him...
604
00:34:22,484 --> 00:34:25,337
Was obviously under
the influence
605
00:34:25,362 --> 00:34:27,823
of some sort of amphetamines
606
00:34:27,865 --> 00:34:32,202
or extreme adrenaline
propulsing stimulants.
607
00:34:32,244 --> 00:34:34,747
Sid Vicious was looking
for a fight.
608
00:34:34,788 --> 00:34:37,249
Just fucking watch out, pal,
all right?
609
00:34:37,291 --> 00:34:40,794
Or otherwise I'll fucking
slice you open.
610
00:34:40,836 --> 00:34:43,505
He hit me over the head
a few times with a chain,
611
00:34:43,547 --> 00:34:45,925
which didn't require
any stitches, fortunately.
612
00:34:45,966 --> 00:34:48,677
I sort of wandered upstairs
in a complete...
613
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,222
lather of blood and confusion.
614
00:34:52,264 --> 00:34:56,685
I truly admire their attitude,
615
00:34:56,727 --> 00:34:59,855
I thought it was...
very brave.
616
00:34:59,897 --> 00:35:03,651
Immediately before this attack
occurred,
617
00:35:03,692 --> 00:35:07,321
John Rotten was deep
in discussion with Sid.
618
00:35:07,363 --> 00:35:12,326
I figure that John was...
"Johnny"... as he's known,
619
00:35:12,368 --> 00:35:15,204
was setting me up,
'cause this is all true.
620
00:35:15,245 --> 00:35:18,207
In fact, Sid got the name
"Vicious" from that fight.
621
00:35:18,248 --> 00:35:21,627
John Rotten christened him
"Vicious" from that fight.
622
00:35:21,669 --> 00:35:24,421
Said he, falling
against the door.
623
00:35:24,463 --> 00:35:27,967
Sid Vicious got the name
after my pet hamster,
624
00:35:28,008 --> 00:35:30,469
that bit him one day...
625
00:35:30,511 --> 00:35:33,055
when he was trying
to be sweet to it.
626
00:35:33,097 --> 00:35:37,142
And its name was Sid,
and he really liked that.
627
00:35:38,185 --> 00:35:40,896
"Your Sid was vicious."
628
00:35:40,938 --> 00:35:44,274
The group were doing a very
private, I think, secret show,
629
00:35:44,316 --> 00:35:46,527
at "The Screen on the Green,"
Islington.
630
00:35:47,778 --> 00:35:50,739
I went along with a couple
of our A&R people,
631
00:35:50,781 --> 00:35:52,783
and Chris Wright, the chairman.
632
00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:56,704
Knocked on the door, somebody opened
the door, and said, "Fuck off!"
633
00:35:59,289 --> 00:36:01,041
Well we weren't gonna be
dissuaded,
634
00:36:01,083 --> 00:36:04,461
so we sort of tapped on the door
again and said, "We're invited."
635
00:36:04,503 --> 00:36:06,880
And a head popped 'round again,
and said, "Fuck Off!"
636
00:36:09,383 --> 00:36:11,343
They were a particularly
ugly band.
637
00:36:11,385 --> 00:36:14,847
# We're so pretty,
oh, so pretty #
638
00:36:16,515 --> 00:36:18,434
# We're vacant #
639
00:36:18,475 --> 00:36:22,062
# We're so pretty,
oh, so pretty #
640
00:36:23,731 --> 00:36:25,315
# Vacant #
641
00:36:25,357 --> 00:36:28,610
# Don't ask us to attend
'cause we're not all there #
642
00:36:28,652 --> 00:36:31,488
# Don't pretend,
'cause I don't care #
643
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:34,491
And there was only a little bit
of a scuffle, nothing much.
644
00:36:41,081 --> 00:36:43,250
I've known musicians
to defend themselves
645
00:36:43,292 --> 00:36:45,502
if the thing goes
onto the stage,
646
00:36:45,544 --> 00:36:47,646
But I've never seen musicians
drop their instruments
647
00:36:47,671 --> 00:36:50,257
And sort of dive in
at a small scrap
648
00:36:50,299 --> 00:36:52,801
And extend it,
and forget about the music.
649
00:36:52,843 --> 00:36:54,928
And I found that a bit much.
650
00:36:58,474 --> 00:37:01,268
I went back two or three times
after that,
651
00:37:01,310 --> 00:37:03,479
just to make sure that...
you know, they were as bad
652
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,314
as I thought they were
the first time.
653
00:37:07,566 --> 00:37:10,360
# ...and we don't care! #
654
00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:13,947
Ever!
655
00:37:13,989 --> 00:37:17,826
Why all the infamous language?
656
00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:20,037
"Infamous language"?
You're joking.
657
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,165
I speak nothing but the fucking
English language.
658
00:37:23,207 --> 00:37:27,086
And if that's "Infamous,"
Then, huh-huh-huh, tough titters.
659
00:37:27,628 --> 00:37:30,522
Basically, the Pistols'
attitude to the press
660
00:37:30,547 --> 00:37:32,925
was one of completely
like "Fuck you," you know?
661
00:37:32,966 --> 00:37:35,803
I mean, just absolutely
"Fuck you."
662
00:37:35,844 --> 00:37:39,515
Which was great... I mean,
it was the perfect antidote
663
00:37:39,556 --> 00:37:44,228
to all the 99% of other
stupid rock groups
664
00:37:44,269 --> 00:37:46,980
who like, licked the arse
of the press,
665
00:37:47,022 --> 00:37:49,775
and, I mean, it worked
perfectly for them.
666
00:37:49,817 --> 00:37:51,985
Most journalists are masochists.
667
00:37:52,027 --> 00:37:54,321
They're just toss pots,
most of them.
668
00:37:54,363 --> 00:37:58,158
Don't accept the old order.
Get rid of it.
669
00:38:02,746 --> 00:38:05,332
We've been there
for five years or more,
670
00:38:05,374 --> 00:38:08,544
just waiting for this to happen,
and now it's happened.
671
00:38:08,585 --> 00:38:11,046
It had to, it was the only thing
that could happen.
672
00:38:11,088 --> 00:38:13,273
It was the only thing that
didn't come from the industry...
673
00:38:13,298 --> 00:38:16,802
It came from the kids themselves.
Something had to come from the kids.
674
00:38:22,432 --> 00:38:24,685
# Come on and join us #
675
00:38:24,726 --> 00:38:27,146
# We're the young nation #
676
00:38:27,187 --> 00:38:29,648
# Come on and join us #
677
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:31,900
# Nationwide... #
678
00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:38,574
# Right... #
679
00:38:38,615 --> 00:38:40,492
# Now #
680
00:38:46,331 --> 00:38:49,710
# I am an antichrist #
681
00:38:49,751 --> 00:38:53,338
# I am an anarchist... #
682
00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:55,966
This group are leaders
of a whole new teenage cult
683
00:38:56,008 --> 00:38:58,260
that seems to be on the way
to being as big
684
00:38:58,302 --> 00:39:00,262
as mods and rockers were
in the '60s.
685
00:39:00,304 --> 00:39:03,849
The cult is called "punk,"
the music, "punk rock."
686
00:39:03,891 --> 00:39:07,895
Basic rock music...
Raw, outrageous and crude,
687
00:39:07,936 --> 00:39:10,606
like their fan magazine,
"Sniffing Glue."
688
00:39:10,647 --> 00:39:12,608
I think our music
is very honest.
689
00:39:12,649 --> 00:39:17,237
It's the most honest thing that's
been happening in the last 1 5 years.
690
00:39:17,279 --> 00:39:18,572
Nothing to beat it.
691
00:39:18,614 --> 00:39:21,491
Finding places to play
is becoming harder,
692
00:39:21,533 --> 00:39:24,995
thanks to the reputation punks
are getting as troublemakers,
693
00:39:25,037 --> 00:39:28,290
and the Sex Pistols themselves
even had to hire a strip club
694
00:39:28,332 --> 00:39:31,877
to get their music heard.
Nowhere else would take them.
695
00:39:37,341 --> 00:39:38,842
# Anarchy #
696
00:39:38,884 --> 00:39:40,093
From the street.
697
00:39:44,723 --> 00:39:47,392
I find the Pistols
very believable,
698
00:39:47,434 --> 00:39:50,729
I find it's all related
to violence...
699
00:39:50,771 --> 00:39:53,065
in the mind, not in the body.
700
00:39:56,652 --> 00:39:58,904
Malcolm began to get
a little bit serious about it,
701
00:39:58,946 --> 00:40:01,907
and he brought in a lawyer
by the name of Fisher...
702
00:40:01,949 --> 00:40:06,453
That dreadful lawyer whose name
I refuse to speak...
703
00:40:06,495 --> 00:40:08,121
There was...
704
00:40:08,163 --> 00:40:11,083
basically an auction
between Polydor and EMl.
705
00:40:11,124 --> 00:40:13,835
We came up with a contract
which gave the Pistols
706
00:40:13,877 --> 00:40:17,172
total creative control.
707
00:40:18,548 --> 00:40:20,759
Malcolm decided to go with EMl.
708
00:40:25,472 --> 00:40:27,474
I went into the A&R department,
I said,
709
00:40:27,516 --> 00:40:29,226
"Who are these crazy guys?"
710
00:40:29,268 --> 00:40:31,411
They said, "It's the Sex Pistols,
we just signed them.
711
00:40:31,436 --> 00:40:32,604
They're tremendous."
712
00:40:32,646 --> 00:40:34,982
And my first actual plug
for them was, after all this,
713
00:40:35,023 --> 00:40:37,859
was by phoning up
the "Today" program.
714
00:40:37,901 --> 00:40:39,695
They phoned back, said, "Yes...
715
00:40:39,736 --> 00:40:42,698
We'd like to use
the Sex Pistols," you know,
716
00:40:42,739 --> 00:40:45,617
"Will that be okay?" I said,
"I'm sure it'll be all right."
717
00:40:45,659 --> 00:40:49,079
They slung us in the green room,
with a fridge,
718
00:40:49,121 --> 00:40:50,831
and I remember downing
719
00:40:50,872 --> 00:40:53,208
about fucking four bottles
of "Blue Nun,"
720
00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:56,336
and I was fucking just...
Having a good old time,
721
00:40:56,378 --> 00:40:59,631
pissed at this point,
by the time we went out there.
722
00:40:59,673 --> 00:41:01,425
And that's all I remember.
723
00:41:01,466 --> 00:41:05,637
They are "punk rockers."
the new craze, they tell me.
724
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,180
They are heroes...
725
00:41:07,222 --> 00:41:10,392
Not the nice, clean,
Rolling Stones.
726
00:41:10,434 --> 00:41:13,395
They are as drunk as I am.
They are clean by comparison,
727
00:41:13,437 --> 00:41:16,606
they are a group
called "the Sex Pistols,"
728
00:41:16,648 --> 00:41:20,027
I am told that that group...
729
00:41:20,068 --> 00:41:23,363
have received �40,000
from a record company.
730
00:41:23,405 --> 00:41:25,782
Doesn't that seem to be
slightly opposed
731
00:41:25,824 --> 00:41:28,785
to their anti-materialistic
view of life?
732
00:41:28,827 --> 00:41:30,912
- No, the more, the merrier.
- Really?
733
00:41:30,954 --> 00:41:32,622
- Oh, yeah.
- Tell me more about it.
734
00:41:32,664 --> 00:41:33,957
We've fucking spent it.
735
00:41:33,999 --> 00:41:36,710
- I don't know. Have you?
- Yeah, it's all gone.
736
00:41:36,752 --> 00:41:39,838
No one even heard that one,
'cause he was drunk himself,
737
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,757
and he wasn't paying attention
when he asked,
738
00:41:41,798 --> 00:41:45,052
"What did you do with the money?"
and I said, "We fucking spent it."
739
00:41:45,093 --> 00:41:47,596
- Tell me more about it.
- We've fucking spent it.
740
00:41:47,637 --> 00:41:50,432
- I don't know. Have you?
- Yeah, it's all gone.
741
00:41:50,474 --> 00:41:52,601
- Really?
- Down the boozer.
742
00:41:52,642 --> 00:41:54,269
Really?
Good Lord!
743
00:41:54,311 --> 00:41:56,229
Now, I want to know one thing:
744
00:41:56,271 --> 00:41:59,399
Beethoven, Mozart, Bach
and Brahms have all died...
745
00:41:59,441 --> 00:42:02,611
- They're all heroes of ours.
- Really? What were you saying?
746
00:42:02,652 --> 00:42:04,446
- They're wonderful people.
- Are they?
747
00:42:04,488 --> 00:42:07,532
- Yes, they really turn us on.
- But they're dead.
748
00:42:07,574 --> 00:42:09,910
Suppose they turn
other people on?
749
00:42:09,951 --> 00:42:11,787
That's just their tough shit.
750
00:42:11,828 --> 00:42:15,290
Rotten, he slipped up and said
"shit" under his breath.
751
00:42:15,332 --> 00:42:17,959
- It's what?
- Nothing, a rude word.
752
00:42:18,001 --> 00:42:20,128
- Next question.
- No, no...
753
00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:22,130
What was the rude word?
754
00:42:22,172 --> 00:42:24,800
- Shit.
- Was it really? Good heavens.
755
00:42:24,841 --> 00:42:27,719
- You frighten me to death.
- All right, so you play games...
756
00:42:27,761 --> 00:42:30,889
He's like your dad,
ain't he, this geezer?
757
00:42:30,931 --> 00:42:32,099
Or your granddad.
758
00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:34,201
Are you worried, or are you just
enjoying yourself?
759
00:42:34,226 --> 00:42:35,936
- Enjoying myself.
- Are you?
760
00:42:35,977 --> 00:42:37,437
That's what I thought.
761
00:42:37,479 --> 00:42:39,773
- I always wanted to meet you.
- Did you really?
762
00:42:39,815 --> 00:42:42,734
Siouxsie, she was just being
coy with him,
763
00:42:42,776 --> 00:42:44,694
And he said,
"Oh, maybe we'll meet after?"
764
00:42:44,736 --> 00:42:46,822
We'll meet afterwards, shall we?
765
00:42:46,863 --> 00:42:50,409
You dirty sod.
You dirty old man.
766
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:52,702
Steve completely understood
767
00:42:52,744 --> 00:42:55,288
that he was talking to a drunk
768
00:42:55,330 --> 00:42:57,707
as you would a drunk in a pub,
769
00:42:57,749 --> 00:43:00,001
and he just topped him.
770
00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:04,714
Go on, you've got
another five seconds,
771
00:43:04,756 --> 00:43:07,134
- say something outrageous.
- You dirty bastard.
772
00:43:07,175 --> 00:43:09,136
I just remember
this fucking cunt
773
00:43:09,219 --> 00:43:12,013
just started provoking us,
and we coated him off.
774
00:43:12,055 --> 00:43:14,141
- Go on... again.
- You dirty fucker.
775
00:43:14,182 --> 00:43:17,018
- What a clever boy.
- What a fucking rotter.
776
00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:20,439
That's it for tonight.
The other rocker, Eamonn,
777
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,983
and I'm saying nothing else about
him, will be back tomorrow.
778
00:43:23,066 --> 00:43:25,293
I'll be seeing you soon.
I hope I'm not seeing you again.
779
00:43:25,318 --> 00:43:26,711
From me, though, goodnight.
780
00:43:26,736 --> 00:43:29,072
McLaren was there.
He was terrified.
781
00:43:29,114 --> 00:43:30,907
He was shitting himself.
782
00:43:30,949 --> 00:43:33,034
He was death-white,
you know, going
783
00:43:33,076 --> 00:43:35,454
"We'd fucking better
get out of here, quick!"
784
00:43:35,495 --> 00:43:38,248
But the very next day,
it was all his big idea.
785
00:43:41,126 --> 00:43:45,046
It was perfect stand-up comedy.
It was Arthur Askey.
786
00:43:46,089 --> 00:43:49,301
# Well, I don't mind
the things that you say #
787
00:43:49,342 --> 00:43:52,737
# I don't even mind
goin' out of my way #
788
00:43:52,762 --> 00:43:56,266
# I try and do
these things for you #
789
00:43:56,308 --> 00:44:00,061
# Why should I do it?
I'm always untrue #
790
00:44:03,773 --> 00:44:06,776
That's all, a four letter word
done everything.
791
00:44:09,029 --> 00:44:11,740
# Goin' outta my head #
792
00:44:13,325 --> 00:44:14,993
I loved it...
793
00:44:15,035 --> 00:44:19,122
I fucking loved it.
It was like finally, I've arrived.
794
00:44:19,164 --> 00:44:22,083
Let the circus begin.
795
00:44:24,336 --> 00:44:27,797
# The bog is no place
to see your face... #
796
00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:29,758
The committee have decided,
797
00:44:29,799 --> 00:44:32,093
that in fairness
to the public of Derby,
798
00:44:32,135 --> 00:44:35,805
the Sex Pistols will not
perform here tonight,
799
00:44:35,847 --> 00:44:39,100
but we are quite agreeable
that the three other groups
800
00:44:39,142 --> 00:44:42,354
that have already been booked
will go on.
801
00:44:43,563 --> 00:44:46,066
For the last 1 2 months,
punk rock has become
802
00:44:46,149 --> 00:44:48,610
almost a battle cry
in British society.
803
00:44:48,652 --> 00:44:51,363
For many people, it's a bigger
threat to our way of life
804
00:44:51,404 --> 00:44:54,032
than Russian Communism
or hyper-inflation,
805
00:44:54,074 --> 00:44:57,969
and it generates more popular
excitement than either of those.
806
00:44:57,994 --> 00:45:00,497
We hope tonight, by this protest
807
00:45:00,539 --> 00:45:04,251
to make Wales know, and to let
the people of this town know,
808
00:45:04,292 --> 00:45:08,004
that we do protest
and it is by no fault of ours,
809
00:45:08,046 --> 00:45:10,340
that this thing
has come to Caerphilly.
810
00:45:10,382 --> 00:45:13,385
When your local council
didn't ban the punk rock concert,
811
00:45:13,426 --> 00:45:16,012
you actually went down there
and tried to stop it yourself?
812
00:45:16,054 --> 00:45:18,181
No, we never went
to stop it at any time.
813
00:45:18,223 --> 00:45:20,350
We went there with a very
positive Gospel message.
814
00:45:20,392 --> 00:45:23,144
We have done everything
humanly possible
815
00:45:23,186 --> 00:45:25,146
to ban this thing
and to stop it.
816
00:45:25,188 --> 00:45:27,190
Sir, can I ask you why
you're here tonight?
817
00:45:27,232 --> 00:45:31,194
Because I am...
recognized as a Christian.
818
00:45:31,236 --> 00:45:34,864
If I thought one of mine was
in there, I'd go drag them out.
819
00:45:34,906 --> 00:45:38,243
They're outside, freezing.
We're in here, we're all right.
820
00:45:41,538 --> 00:45:43,832
This one's about
Harold Wilson...
821
00:45:43,873 --> 00:45:46,501
It's called "Liar."
822
00:45:46,543 --> 00:45:48,295
# You lie, lie, lie,
lie lie... #
823
00:45:48,336 --> 00:45:53,758
# Sleep in heavenly peace #
824
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,261
# Should have realized... #
825
00:45:57,721 --> 00:46:00,390
On the "Anarchy" tour
we was actually followed
826
00:46:00,432 --> 00:46:03,184
everywhere across the country,
from gig to gig,
827
00:46:03,226 --> 00:46:06,855
and we had to turn up
to show willingness to play,
828
00:46:06,896 --> 00:46:08,940
so presumably we would get
the money,
829
00:46:08,982 --> 00:46:11,901
although it looked pound to a penny
that they wasn't gonna let us play.
830
00:46:14,195 --> 00:46:17,365
Mr. Stabler, you can't watch
punk concerts in Newcastle either?
831
00:46:17,407 --> 00:46:20,869
The decision was made when
we discovered it was mere children
832
00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:23,288
that would be watching
the performance.
833
00:46:23,330 --> 00:46:26,666
The average adult will go see
a strip show, or a blue film.
834
00:46:26,708 --> 00:46:30,462
Banned in this town, and being
banned in that town.
835
00:46:30,503 --> 00:46:33,465
And it really wasn't
about us playing any more,
836
00:46:33,506 --> 00:46:36,509
it was about this controversy
that we were like,
837
00:46:36,551 --> 00:46:39,262
throwing up on stage,
and spitting.
838
00:46:40,597 --> 00:46:43,058
And I remember going
across the Pennines,
839
00:46:43,099 --> 00:46:45,644
being followed by a fleet
of press people,
840
00:46:45,685 --> 00:46:48,688
and we went to stop
to get coffee and a sandwich,
841
00:46:48,772 --> 00:46:51,066
and we could hear what these
press people were saying.
842
00:46:51,107 --> 00:46:52,651
One press guy said to the other,
843
00:46:52,692 --> 00:46:54,169
"Did you get anything?"
and the other one said,
844
00:46:54,194 --> 00:46:56,738
"I got two 'fucks' and a 'shit'
from Johnny Rotten."
845
00:46:56,780 --> 00:46:59,824
Can I now turn to Bernard
Brook-Partridge in London...
846
00:46:59,866 --> 00:47:03,662
Most of these groups would be
vastly improved by sudden death.
847
00:47:03,703 --> 00:47:06,373
The worst, currently,
are the Sex Pistols.
848
00:47:06,414 --> 00:47:08,833
They are the antithesis
of humankind...
849
00:47:09,876 --> 00:47:11,878
And the whole world
would be vastly improved
850
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,838
by their total and utter
non-existence.
851
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,257
# You're a liar #
852
00:47:18,009 --> 00:47:20,470
# Lie, lie, lie, lie... #
853
00:47:21,388 --> 00:47:24,432
The day Johnny Rotten goes back on
the words he writes in his songs,
854
00:47:24,474 --> 00:47:26,643
is the day he dies.
I know that for a fact.
855
00:47:26,685 --> 00:47:29,104
I think people did feel
that this was...
856
00:47:29,145 --> 00:47:31,189
this was a sort of
a downhill thing,
857
00:47:31,231 --> 00:47:34,442
and was a monster in our
presence, and actually would,
858
00:47:34,484 --> 00:47:37,737
cause problems of image
for the record industry.
859
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:41,241
At that point, someone at EMI
took the decision
860
00:47:41,282 --> 00:47:44,119
that they no longer wished
to have the act on the label.
861
00:47:47,163 --> 00:47:49,124
This is about EMl.
862
00:47:51,084 --> 00:47:54,337
They're major labels
with major attitudes,
863
00:47:54,379 --> 00:47:58,466
and they want everything to be
fake and easily manipulative.
864
00:47:58,508 --> 00:48:01,678
And you can't be having that
with people like us.
865
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:05,265
- Let's call it chaos!
- It just doesn't happen.
866
00:48:05,306 --> 00:48:08,643
# An unlimited supply #
867
00:48:08,685 --> 00:48:11,312
# And there is no reason why #
868
00:48:11,354 --> 00:48:13,690
They told us
that they were unable
869
00:48:13,732 --> 00:48:15,942
to continue
to promote the act...
870
00:48:15,984 --> 00:48:17,819
And would we kindly leave.
871
00:48:19,362 --> 00:48:21,072
# E-M-l #
872
00:48:21,114 --> 00:48:22,949
"Let's call it chaos!"
873
00:48:22,991 --> 00:48:24,659
# E-M-l #
874
00:48:24,701 --> 00:48:26,327
"Let's call it chaos!"
875
00:48:26,369 --> 00:48:28,163
# E-M-l #
876
00:48:28,204 --> 00:48:29,873
"Let's call it chaos!"
877
00:48:33,626 --> 00:48:35,044
Ouch.
878
00:48:35,086 --> 00:48:38,523
# ...With an unlimited
supply #
879
00:48:38,548 --> 00:48:42,260
# That was the only reason #
880
00:48:42,302 --> 00:48:46,055
# We all had to say goodbye #
881
00:48:46,097 --> 00:48:49,851
# Unlimited supply... E-M-l #
882
00:48:49,893 --> 00:48:53,313
# There is no reason why...
E-M-l #
883
00:48:53,354 --> 00:48:55,440
# Unlimited supply #
884
00:48:55,482 --> 00:48:56,858
# E-M-l #
885
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:58,818
# Hello, EMI #
886
00:48:58,860 --> 00:49:01,446
# Good... bye! #
887
00:49:02,906 --> 00:49:06,826
It started with John and Glen
falling out, really.
888
00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:08,870
Over what, I don't really know,
889
00:49:08,912 --> 00:49:11,039
just a clash of personalities,
et cetera.
890
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,374
When you talk
like an arsehole...
891
00:49:13,416 --> 00:49:16,419
and look like an arsehole,
you're an arsehole.
892
00:49:16,461 --> 00:49:19,714
There was obviously a big
problem between me and John.
893
00:49:19,756 --> 00:49:22,342
I felt that once John
got his face in the papers,
894
00:49:22,383 --> 00:49:24,594
he'd become
a different person...
895
00:49:24,636 --> 00:49:26,346
Which I didn't
particularly like.
896
00:49:26,387 --> 00:49:30,016
When we went to Holland, my last
gig with them was at the Paradiso.
897
00:49:30,058 --> 00:49:32,477
I felt everybody was on my case.
898
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:35,688
He was always complaining
that we were too outrageous,
899
00:49:35,730 --> 00:49:38,900
and it's a funny thing,
but he was always washing himself.
900
00:49:38,942 --> 00:49:40,944
Whenever we'd get into a hotel,
901
00:49:40,985 --> 00:49:44,072
he'd be washing his
fucking feet in the sink.
902
00:49:44,113 --> 00:49:46,115
Me and Steve were like that,
I suppose,
903
00:49:46,157 --> 00:49:48,117
and John always felt
on the outside.
904
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,745
He thought by bringing Sid in,
he would have someone there,
905
00:49:50,787 --> 00:49:52,622
like a partner, you know?
906
00:49:52,664 --> 00:49:54,415
Someone a bit closer to him.
907
00:49:56,251 --> 00:49:57,894
I'd heard that they'd been
rehearsing with Sid.
908
00:49:57,919 --> 00:50:00,088
Nobody had the courtesy
to tell me.
909
00:50:11,683 --> 00:50:13,935
It had become like
a cartoon strip band,
910
00:50:13,977 --> 00:50:16,980
as opposed to a rock and roll
band that actually plays
911
00:50:17,021 --> 00:50:18,648
and does something for real.
912
00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:20,900
# I got no emotions
for anybody else #
913
00:50:20,942 --> 00:50:23,695
# You better understand
I'm in love with myself #
914
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,490
Glen had reached a point
where he decided
915
00:50:27,532 --> 00:50:31,119
that the band's direction
was absolutely alien
916
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,788
to anything he wanted
to be associated with.
917
00:50:33,830 --> 00:50:35,540
That's absolute bollocks.
918
00:50:35,582 --> 00:50:38,626
I think one of Malcolm's games
was, sort of divide and conquer.
919
00:50:38,668 --> 00:50:40,837
Malcolm had told John
I'd said a lot of stuff
920
00:50:40,879 --> 00:50:42,964
which I hadn't said,
and Malcolm had told me
921
00:50:43,006 --> 00:50:45,633
John had said a lot
of stuff that he hadn't said.
922
00:50:46,718 --> 00:50:49,470
I respect him.
I always did.
923
00:50:49,512 --> 00:50:51,489
He taught them to play.
924
00:50:51,514 --> 00:50:54,142
I kind of regretted
him leaving...
925
00:50:54,183 --> 00:50:57,145
because Sid couldn't play
a fucking note.
926
00:50:57,186 --> 00:51:00,315
# ...see his picture hanging
on your wall #
927
00:51:05,528 --> 00:51:08,781
I feel guilty about Sid,
928
00:51:08,823 --> 00:51:13,494
because I wish I could have
told him more...
929
00:51:13,536 --> 00:51:15,788
about what to expect.
930
00:51:17,665 --> 00:51:20,627
Well... I was getting
my own group together,
931
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:22,629
"The Flowers of Romance,"
932
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:25,256
and Rotten asked me
if I wanted to join the...
933
00:51:25,298 --> 00:51:27,258
There was this big hoo-ha,
and Malcolm said,
934
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:29,677
"It's all a big secret, man,"
you know...
935
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,472
"Come down to this pub
at such and such and that,"
936
00:51:32,513 --> 00:51:34,891
and I thought they were
gonna do me over
937
00:51:34,933 --> 00:51:38,269
'cause I didn't turn up to one
of Rotten's parties or something.
938
00:51:38,311 --> 00:51:41,022
He gets touchy
over things like that.
939
00:51:41,064 --> 00:51:43,483
And... I went down there
and he said,
940
00:51:43,524 --> 00:51:45,360
"Do you wanna play bass
for the Sex Pistols?"
941
00:52:00,166 --> 00:52:03,211
# Turn the page and it's
the scoop of the century #
942
00:52:03,252 --> 00:52:06,756
# Don't wanna be I seven
I've had enough of this #
943
00:52:06,798 --> 00:52:10,176
# This is brainwash
and this is a clue #
944
00:52:10,218 --> 00:52:13,554
# To the stars who fooled you #
945
00:52:14,931 --> 00:52:16,599
Sid was my mate.
946
00:52:16,641 --> 00:52:18,643
Very, very close mate.
947
00:52:18,685 --> 00:52:20,561
He'd just...
laugh at everything.
948
00:52:21,646 --> 00:52:25,149
Genius in that way,
and his name was John.
949
00:52:30,571 --> 00:52:33,741
# I got you in the camera,
I got you in my camera #
950
00:52:33,783 --> 00:52:37,286
# A second of your life
ruined for life #
951
00:52:37,328 --> 00:52:40,164
We'd do lots of mad things
together, me and Sid.
952
00:52:40,206 --> 00:52:42,417
We used to busk too,
for money...
953
00:52:43,459 --> 00:52:45,795
Me with a violin,
Sid with a tambourine,
954
00:52:45,837 --> 00:52:49,257
maybe a broken guitar,
doing Alice Cooper songs.
955
00:52:49,298 --> 00:52:51,300
"I Love the Dead"
was our favorite.
956
00:52:51,342 --> 00:52:53,344
That would get us
the most money.
957
00:52:53,386 --> 00:52:55,638
"Just please shut up."
958
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,765
"Here... take the money,
go somewhere else."
959
00:53:03,438 --> 00:53:06,691
Why dost thou spit... at me?
960
00:53:09,652 --> 00:53:13,614
The best time of the band of all
was when Sid first joined,
961
00:53:13,656 --> 00:53:17,160
and he was really determined
to learn the bass
962
00:53:17,201 --> 00:53:18,786
and fit in and be part
of the band.
963
00:53:18,828 --> 00:53:21,080
He definitely looked great,
Sid...
964
00:53:21,122 --> 00:53:23,750
Yeah, he definitely was a face.
A real laugh.
965
00:53:23,791 --> 00:53:26,127
He used to take the piss
out of Rotten.
966
00:53:26,169 --> 00:53:28,296
All I did was cash in
on the fact
967
00:53:28,337 --> 00:53:31,257
that I'm good-looking,
and I have a good figure,
968
00:53:31,299 --> 00:53:33,259
and girls like me.
969
00:53:33,342 --> 00:53:37,096
What do they want, a fucking
angel in flares and an anorak?
970
00:53:37,138 --> 00:53:39,348
'Cause if they want that...
971
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:41,976
that ain't me, baby.
972
00:53:44,562 --> 00:53:46,731
Found myself in this rather
curious little shop,
973
00:53:46,773 --> 00:53:49,192
in the company of Johnny Rotten,
Sid Vicious,
974
00:53:49,233 --> 00:53:51,944
and other assorted Sex Pistols.
975
00:53:51,986 --> 00:53:53,321
Hello, Mr. Nimmo.
976
00:54:00,286 --> 00:54:02,455
And the last they heard,
a donkey had him cornered
977
00:54:02,497 --> 00:54:04,082
up a back alley in Fulham.
978
00:54:07,251 --> 00:54:10,088
After EMI dumped
the Sex Pistols,
979
00:54:10,129 --> 00:54:12,006
A&M Records picked them up,
980
00:54:12,048 --> 00:54:14,342
and staged a contract signing
ceremony
981
00:54:14,383 --> 00:54:16,344
in front of Buckingham Palace.
982
00:54:16,385 --> 00:54:19,305
Malcolm was honest
in one respect...
983
00:54:19,347 --> 00:54:23,142
That he always said
he had no control over us.
984
00:54:23,184 --> 00:54:24,811
And he didn't.
985
00:54:24,852 --> 00:54:28,314
And a bloody good punch-up,
in a limo,
986
00:54:28,356 --> 00:54:32,819
before a signing
was not really unusual.
987
00:54:33,903 --> 00:54:36,155
It was a good fight, too.
988
00:54:36,197 --> 00:54:38,199
"No, you're the biggest cunt,"
989
00:54:38,241 --> 00:54:40,218
"No, you're the worst cunt,"
990
00:54:40,243 --> 00:54:42,787
"No, you're the cunt,"
et cetera, et cetera.
991
00:54:42,829 --> 00:54:45,706
There was only one cunt
I wanted to smack,
992
00:54:45,748 --> 00:54:48,501
and that was Malcolm.
Then the door opened,
993
00:54:48,543 --> 00:54:50,545
and then we had to do
the signing.
994
00:54:51,587 --> 00:54:53,506
At this point, the Sex Pistols,
995
00:54:53,548 --> 00:54:56,717
despite having been fired,
were not exactly suffering.
996
00:54:56,759 --> 00:54:58,886
Here they were,
signing a new contract
997
00:54:58,928 --> 00:55:00,680
that could make them
a lot of money,
998
00:55:00,721 --> 00:55:03,683
and they already had a song
to record for A&M
999
00:55:03,766 --> 00:55:05,893
in honor of the Queen's jubilee.
1000
00:55:05,935 --> 00:55:09,063
Sid's father
was a Grenadier guard.
1001
00:55:09,105 --> 00:55:13,151
Imagine that... Sid signing
a very, very expensive contract,
1002
00:55:13,192 --> 00:55:17,321
while his old man's on guard
inside the fence.
1003
00:55:17,363 --> 00:55:19,615
It was genius.
1004
00:55:21,617 --> 00:55:25,037
According to the story,
after this happy signing ceremony,
1005
00:55:25,121 --> 00:55:28,416
everyone went back to
the A&M offices to celebrate.
1006
00:55:29,625 --> 00:55:32,461
The four Sex Pistols
apparently over celebrated,
1007
00:55:32,503 --> 00:55:34,589
and lived up to
their public image
1008
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:36,883
of thorough obnoxiousness.
1009
00:55:36,924 --> 00:55:38,259
- How are you doing?
- Get away.
1010
00:55:38,301 --> 00:55:40,094
When we got to A&M records,
1011
00:55:40,136 --> 00:55:42,346
total bedlam broke out there
as well.
1012
00:55:42,388 --> 00:55:44,140
I can't remember what happened,
1013
00:55:44,182 --> 00:55:46,058
but the secretaries
were terrified,
1014
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:48,227
and Sid's foot was bleeding.
1015
00:55:48,269 --> 00:55:51,647
I had a black eye,
Malcolm was running around,
1016
00:55:51,689 --> 00:55:54,400
Steve was flirting
with all the secretaries,
1017
00:55:54,442 --> 00:55:57,403
and then we got in the car,
then went to the studio,
1018
00:55:57,445 --> 00:55:59,922
where we were recording "God Save
the Queen" with Chris Thomas,
1019
00:55:59,947 --> 00:56:03,117
and there's this school next door,
and all the kids come running out
1020
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:05,536
'cause we were there.
And they called the police as well.
1021
00:56:05,578 --> 00:56:07,413
It was just total mad day.
1022
00:56:07,455 --> 00:56:09,457
The next day we woke up,
Malcolm said,
1023
00:56:09,498 --> 00:56:11,834
"Well, A&M have fired you."
1024
00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,796
The anti-establishment
Sex Pistols
1025
00:56:15,838 --> 00:56:17,882
called in
the establishment press
1026
00:56:17,924 --> 00:56:19,800
to protest
what had happened to them.
1027
00:56:19,842 --> 00:56:22,929
We feel that we're like
some contagious disease.
1028
00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:24,680
When you walk
in and out of a company,
1029
00:56:24,722 --> 00:56:26,824
and the guy just gives you...
"Look... Take this money
1030
00:56:26,849 --> 00:56:28,768
and don't come back."
1031
00:56:28,809 --> 00:56:31,020
What are you supposed
to think about that?
1032
00:56:31,062 --> 00:56:32,438
Have you had the money?
1033
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,149
Yes, they gave us the check
last night.
1034
00:56:35,191 --> 00:56:37,818
Makes it very clear
where their heads are at...
1035
00:56:38,694 --> 00:56:39,528
Nowhere.
1036
00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:42,657
We weren't the nice boys
they thought we were.
1037
00:56:42,698 --> 00:56:44,742
We aren't nice boys.
1038
00:56:44,784 --> 00:56:47,578
We were fucking
nasty little bastards.
1039
00:56:49,330 --> 00:56:50,873
And we still are.
1040
00:56:52,041 --> 00:56:53,542
Virgin Records signed them,
1041
00:56:53,584 --> 00:56:55,127
and Johnny Rotten got to record
1042
00:56:55,211 --> 00:56:57,421
his Queen's jubilee
memorial song...
1043
00:56:57,463 --> 00:56:59,340
"God Save the Queen."
1044
00:57:00,883 --> 00:57:02,927
You don't write
"God Save the Queen"
1045
00:57:02,969 --> 00:57:05,680
because you hate
the English race.
1046
00:57:05,721 --> 00:57:08,724
You write a song like that
because you love them,
1047
00:57:08,766 --> 00:57:12,228
and you're fed up
with them being mistreated.
1048
00:57:32,123 --> 00:57:35,042
# God save the Queen #
1049
00:57:35,084 --> 00:57:37,128
# The fascist regime #
1050
00:57:38,838 --> 00:57:41,048
# They made you a moron #
1051
00:57:42,216 --> 00:57:44,385
# Potential H-bomb #
1052
00:57:45,386 --> 00:57:47,054
# God save the Queen #
1053
00:57:48,514 --> 00:57:50,725
# She ain't no human being #
1054
00:57:52,101 --> 00:57:54,145
# There is no future #
1055
00:57:55,438 --> 00:57:58,774
# In England's dreamin' #
1056
00:57:58,816 --> 00:58:01,902
# Don't be told what you want #
1057
00:58:01,944 --> 00:58:05,406
# Don't be told what you need #
1058
00:58:05,448 --> 00:58:08,826
# There's no future, no future #
1059
00:58:08,868 --> 00:58:12,038
# No future for you #
1060
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:13,956
# God save the Queen #
1061
00:58:15,499 --> 00:58:17,543
# We mean it, man #
1062
00:58:18,669 --> 00:58:20,838
# We love our Queen #
1063
00:58:22,131 --> 00:58:23,841
# God saves #
1064
00:58:25,801 --> 00:58:27,720
# God save the Queen #
1065
00:58:28,971 --> 00:58:30,931
# 'Cause tourists are money #
1066
00:58:32,433 --> 00:58:34,310
# Our figurehead... #
1067
00:58:36,812 --> 00:58:39,523
Shall I be plain?
I wish the bastards dead.
1068
00:58:39,565 --> 00:58:41,442
# Oh, God save history #
1069
00:58:42,568 --> 00:58:44,445
# God save the mad parade #
1070
00:58:45,905 --> 00:58:49,241
# Oh, Lord God have mercy #
1071
00:58:49,283 --> 00:58:52,286
# All crimes are paid #
1072
00:58:52,328 --> 00:58:55,873
# When there's no future
how can there be sin #
1073
00:58:55,915 --> 00:58:59,293
# We're the flowers
in your dustbin #
1074
00:58:59,335 --> 00:59:02,671
# We're the poison
in your human machine #
1075
00:59:02,713 --> 00:59:06,092
# We're the future...
Your future #
1076
00:59:06,133 --> 00:59:08,094
# God save the Queen #
1077
00:59:09,261 --> 00:59:11,347
# We mean it, man #
1078
00:59:12,765 --> 00:59:14,934
# We love our Queen #
1079
00:59:15,976 --> 00:59:17,895
# God saves #
1080
00:59:26,362 --> 00:59:28,948
I really don't think what he
was singing about was outrageous.
1081
00:59:28,989 --> 00:59:31,784
He's not saying "Let's kill her,"
or "Let's fuck her."
1082
00:59:31,826 --> 00:59:34,328
He was pointing out
what the truth was.
1083
00:59:35,204 --> 00:59:36,705
# God save the Queen #
1084
00:59:38,290 --> 00:59:40,292
# We mean it, man #
1085
00:59:41,877 --> 00:59:43,712
# There is no future #
1086
00:59:44,797 --> 00:59:47,216
# In England's dreaming #
1087
00:59:48,801 --> 00:59:52,096
# No future #
1088
00:59:52,138 --> 00:59:55,182
# No future #
1089
00:59:55,224 --> 00:59:59,603
# No future for you #
1090
01:00:02,189 --> 01:00:05,651
# No future #
1091
01:00:05,734 --> 01:00:08,988
# No future #
1092
01:00:09,029 --> 01:00:14,201
# No future for me #
1093
01:00:14,243 --> 01:00:15,911
Chop off his head, man.
1094
01:00:15,953 --> 01:00:19,390
# No future #
1095
01:00:19,415 --> 01:00:22,751
# No future #
1096
01:00:22,793 --> 01:00:27,673
# No future for you #
1097
01:00:27,715 --> 01:00:29,884
# No future #
1098
01:00:29,925 --> 01:00:32,803
# No future for you #
1099
01:00:40,227 --> 01:00:42,897
It alienated the entire country.
1100
01:00:42,938 --> 01:00:46,025
If they'd have hung us
at traitor's gate,
1101
01:00:46,066 --> 01:00:49,361
it would have been applauded
by 56 million.
1102
01:00:53,282 --> 01:00:56,660
You can't beat that, man.
That's National Gallery status.
1103
01:00:58,537 --> 01:01:00,998
It's raining silver
in "The Sun" this week.
1104
01:01:02,458 --> 01:01:04,335
"God Save the Queen"
1105
01:01:04,376 --> 01:01:07,588
was the alternative
national anthem.
1106
01:01:09,298 --> 01:01:11,592
What we offered to England...
1107
01:01:11,634 --> 01:01:12,760
was...
1108
01:01:14,929 --> 01:01:17,640
a pivotal point.
We were the maypole
1109
01:01:17,681 --> 01:01:19,892
that they danced around.
1110
01:01:22,061 --> 01:01:26,190
# Go away, I hate you,
hate you, hate you #
1111
01:01:26,232 --> 01:01:30,027
# Go away, I hate you,
far across the sea #
1112
01:01:35,366 --> 01:01:38,327
Where better to celebrate
the release of "God Save the Queen"
1113
01:01:38,369 --> 01:01:40,496
than down the Thames,
and start playing
1114
01:01:40,538 --> 01:01:41,847
outside the Houses
of Parliament?
1115
01:01:41,872 --> 01:01:45,709
"God Save the Queen," and
"Anarchy in the UK" on Jubilee Day.
1116
01:01:48,254 --> 01:01:50,548
I just wanted out
of the country...
1117
01:01:50,589 --> 01:01:52,675
And there was no way out.
1118
01:01:55,761 --> 01:01:58,138
Ever get the feeling
you've been trapped?
1119
01:01:59,723 --> 01:02:01,684
This is obscene,
the whole thing.
1120
01:02:02,977 --> 01:02:04,436
All of this, it's bullshit.
1121
01:02:05,938 --> 01:02:08,440
Well, I've had enough
of your bullshit.
1122
01:02:09,149 --> 01:02:11,318
I'm too cold now.
I'm going back downstairs.
1123
01:02:12,528 --> 01:02:15,155
I loved it. I was getting
my 20 quid a week,
1124
01:02:15,197 --> 01:02:16,907
thinking everything was great.
1125
01:02:16,949 --> 01:02:19,451
I didn't wanna fucking deal
with the business side of it,
1126
01:02:19,493 --> 01:02:21,203
I didn't really question it.
1127
01:02:21,245 --> 01:02:23,789
I was McLaren's friend
before the band,
1128
01:02:23,872 --> 01:02:26,417
so I trusted McLaren
like a friend.
1129
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:44,852
# Too many problems
why am I here #
1130
01:02:44,893 --> 01:02:48,188
# Don't need to be me
'cause you're all too clear #
1131
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:51,817
# I can see there's something
wrong with you #
1132
01:02:51,859 --> 01:02:54,903
# But what do you
expect me to do? #
1133
01:02:54,945 --> 01:02:58,382
# At least I gotta know
what I wanna be #
1134
01:02:58,407 --> 01:03:01,994
# Don't come to me
if you need pity #
1135
01:03:02,036 --> 01:03:05,539
# Are you lonely
you got no one #
1136
01:03:05,581 --> 01:03:08,959
# You get your body
in suspension #
1137
01:03:09,001 --> 01:03:11,378
# That's no problem #
1138
01:03:12,546 --> 01:03:14,798
# Problems #
1139
01:03:16,050 --> 01:03:20,554
# Problems the problem is you #
1140
01:03:20,596 --> 01:03:23,182
The reason we're here
is because it's the Sex Pistols.
1141
01:03:23,223 --> 01:03:25,659
If it wasn't the Sex Pistols
there'd be no interest in this,
1142
01:03:25,684 --> 01:03:27,311
in this... boat tonight.
1143
01:03:27,353 --> 01:03:30,814
Look, we've got Richard Branson
looking like "Catweazel."
1144
01:03:33,484 --> 01:03:36,236
# They know a doctor
gonna take you away #
1145
01:03:36,278 --> 01:03:39,782
# They take you away
and throw away the key #
1146
01:03:39,823 --> 01:03:42,826
# They don't want you
and they don't want me #
1147
01:03:42,868 --> 01:03:46,121
# You got a problem... #
1148
01:03:47,665 --> 01:03:49,291
What happened to Malcolm?
1149
01:03:51,126 --> 01:03:54,004
# Problems, problems #
1150
01:03:54,046 --> 01:03:56,757
# Problems, problems #
1151
01:03:56,799 --> 01:03:58,676
# Problems, problems... #
1152
01:04:03,972 --> 01:04:06,642
# Problems... problems... #
1153
01:04:10,270 --> 01:04:12,439
# Problems... problems. #
1154
01:04:15,484 --> 01:04:18,487
We declared war on England...
1155
01:04:18,529 --> 01:04:21,740
without meaning to.
1156
01:04:21,782 --> 01:04:24,576
At eight, the Muppets'
"Halfway Down the Stairs,"
1157
01:04:24,618 --> 01:04:27,162
at seven, the Alessi Brothers
and "O, Lori,"
1158
01:04:27,204 --> 01:04:29,665
at number six,
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
1159
01:04:29,707 --> 01:04:31,667
and "Fanfare
for the Common Man,"
1160
01:04:31,709 --> 01:04:33,877
at five, The Electric Light
Orchestra, "Phone Line,"
1161
01:04:33,919 --> 01:04:35,963
four...
Stranglers and "Peaches,"
1162
01:04:36,004 --> 01:04:37,756
three... Queen, "Lover Boy,"
1163
01:04:37,798 --> 01:04:40,217
and two,
Eagles, "Hotel California,"
1164
01:04:40,259 --> 01:04:42,761
the Sex Pistols' current record
"God Save the Queen"
1165
01:04:42,803 --> 01:04:44,972
is at number one
in the Capital Hit Line today.
1166
01:04:45,013 --> 01:04:48,183
But the IBA, which administers
the broadcasting act
1167
01:04:48,225 --> 01:04:51,228
has advised us that
particularly at this time,
1168
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:53,647
this record is likely
to cause offense
1169
01:04:53,689 --> 01:04:55,441
to a number of our listeners,
1170
01:04:55,482 --> 01:04:58,318
and have asked us not to play it
in our normal programming.
1171
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,821
"God Save the Queen"
was never number one.
1172
01:05:00,863 --> 01:05:03,449
There was no number one
that week.
1173
01:05:05,993 --> 01:05:08,495
Whatever we were saying
and doing
1174
01:05:08,537 --> 01:05:12,291
really hit a nerve, a raw nerve.
1175
01:05:12,332 --> 01:05:14,501
It was fucked up.
1176
01:05:14,543 --> 01:05:17,129
I still had to bunk
on the subways,
1177
01:05:17,171 --> 01:05:18,964
couldn't afford a cab,
1178
01:05:19,006 --> 01:05:22,885
and all of that the management
didn't want to deal with.
1179
01:05:22,926 --> 01:05:25,679
Completely from there on in,
1180
01:05:25,721 --> 01:05:27,848
walking around
the streets of London
1181
01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:30,058
on my own, was impossible.
1182
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:33,061
I would be attacked on sight.
1183
01:05:33,687 --> 01:05:37,274
You felt like a werewolf
being, like hounded.
1184
01:05:39,902 --> 01:05:43,280
Constantly in fear
of your life, really.
1185
01:05:45,991 --> 01:05:48,202
"God Save the Queen", eh, John?
1186
01:05:56,543 --> 01:06:00,172
I got a machete blade
ripped down this leg,
1187
01:06:00,214 --> 01:06:03,675
and the blade stuck
in my kneecap...
1188
01:06:03,759 --> 01:06:05,969
and they couldn't pull it out,
1189
01:06:06,011 --> 01:06:08,388
so I had to like,
walk off with that.
1190
01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:12,059
I got a stiletto blade
through my wrist here,
1191
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:16,522
lucky not to have had
one of my eyes gouged out,
1192
01:06:16,605 --> 01:06:19,274
'cause a bottle
was shoved in here.
1193
01:06:19,316 --> 01:06:20,734
Got to the hospital...
1194
01:06:20,776 --> 01:06:23,403
first thing they do
is call the police.
1195
01:06:23,445 --> 01:06:28,909
And I get arrested for
"suspicion of causing an affray."
1196
01:06:28,951 --> 01:06:31,829
And the telephone call
from the editor...
1197
01:06:31,870 --> 01:06:35,582
who would say, "Malcolm,
we'll print anything,
1198
01:06:35,624 --> 01:06:37,793
'cause you sell more papers
1199
01:06:37,835 --> 01:06:40,087
than we ever did
on Armistice Day."
1200
01:06:40,379 --> 01:06:43,632
It's 7:00 on Wednesday,
the 1 7th of August.
1201
01:06:43,674 --> 01:06:46,718
Elvis Presley, at one time
known to millions
1202
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,428
as "The King of Rock and Roll,"
1203
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:50,848
has died suddenly
at the age of 42.
1204
01:06:50,889 --> 01:06:53,100
The king of rock and roll
died yesterday.
1205
01:06:53,141 --> 01:06:55,978
He was found face down
on a bathroom floor.
1206
01:06:56,019 --> 01:06:57,771
There had been numerous reports
1207
01:06:57,813 --> 01:07:00,023
that Presley
was a heavy drug user.
1208
01:07:00,065 --> 01:07:01,775
All that time
when Malcolm was saying,
1209
01:07:01,817 --> 01:07:04,611
"We can't get gigs in the UK,"
we could have played abroad.
1210
01:07:04,653 --> 01:07:07,281
We could have fucking done that,
couldn't we, Julien?
1211
01:07:07,322 --> 01:07:11,410
Who needs the fucking UK?
It's a load of fucking shit.
1212
01:07:13,245 --> 01:07:16,206
Got a lot of wax
in my ears today.
1213
01:07:16,748 --> 01:07:19,293
So we were left doing nothing.
I was just sitting there,
1214
01:07:19,334 --> 01:07:21,962
with... like, we didn't even
fucking rehearse,
1215
01:07:22,004 --> 01:07:24,464
nobody wanted to fucking
rehearse or do anything.
1216
01:07:24,506 --> 01:07:27,968
So, like, you know...
It's a logical conclusion,
1217
01:07:28,010 --> 01:07:30,220
d'you know what I mean?
Boredom...
1218
01:07:30,262 --> 01:07:34,933
And, like, I'm that way inclined
so what do I turn to?
1219
01:07:34,975 --> 01:07:37,603
No, I couldn't take them off.
1220
01:07:37,895 --> 01:07:40,814
My nose is broken,
I'm keeping them on.
1221
01:07:40,856 --> 01:07:44,276
And she showed up with Sid,
and I was thinking,
1222
01:07:44,359 --> 01:07:48,155
"Who the fuck is this cunt?
This is an 'orrible person."
1223
01:07:48,196 --> 01:07:50,157
It was like,
the weirdest thing...
1224
01:07:50,198 --> 01:07:53,410
I'd never felt such
a negative energy from someone.
1225
01:07:53,452 --> 01:07:56,079
There was just a dark cloud...
1226
01:07:56,121 --> 01:07:58,874
Over this bird,
and I fucking hated her.
1227
01:07:58,916 --> 01:08:01,460
The first time
I came across Nancy,
1228
01:08:01,543 --> 01:08:03,921
I think Steve was shagging her
in the toilet.
1229
01:08:03,962 --> 01:08:06,340
I didn't like her.
1230
01:08:06,381 --> 01:08:09,509
Nancy was a hooker...
1231
01:08:09,551 --> 01:08:13,764
That was on the coattails
of the "New York Dolls."
1232
01:08:15,515 --> 01:08:18,894
And I actually introduced her
to Sid.
1233
01:08:18,936 --> 01:08:21,188
Shame on me.
1234
01:08:22,648 --> 01:08:26,026
In New York I was dancing
without any clothes on.
1235
01:08:26,068 --> 01:08:28,528
I used to go down to the guys
and dance in front of them,
1236
01:08:28,570 --> 01:08:30,447
and then get tips off them,
1237
01:08:30,489 --> 01:08:32,282
and you'd do
a little hand job, you know,
1238
01:08:32,324 --> 01:08:34,826
for... ten bucks,
or they wanted to fuck.
1239
01:08:36,244 --> 01:08:38,205
I just... you know...
1240
01:08:39,414 --> 01:08:42,000
did it, you know, I just...
1241
01:08:42,042 --> 01:08:43,752
There wasn't really
anything to it,
1242
01:08:43,794 --> 01:08:46,463
I just give good blowjobs.
1243
01:08:49,007 --> 01:08:51,343
"It'll rip your balls off."
1244
01:08:51,385 --> 01:08:53,845
I read the first Sex Pistols
review,
1245
01:08:53,887 --> 01:08:56,348
which was shit, and I said,
"I gotta get over there."
1246
01:08:56,431 --> 01:08:59,226
I wanted to see
something exciting.
1247
01:08:59,810 --> 01:09:04,731
Nancy, as his heroin dealer/
girlfriend...
1248
01:09:04,773 --> 01:09:09,653
Was pumping him up with gear
every chance she could get.
1249
01:09:09,695 --> 01:09:12,197
He didn't like me
'cause I was a junkie.
1250
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,367
He tried to keep me and Sid
apart for months,
1251
01:09:15,409 --> 01:09:17,244
months, months.
1252
01:09:17,285 --> 01:09:20,247
Everyone knows when a bird
starts poking her nose
1253
01:09:20,288 --> 01:09:23,041
into a rock and roll band,
that it's suicidal.
1254
01:09:23,083 --> 01:09:25,502
'Cause that's when he really
started getting fucked up,
1255
01:09:25,544 --> 01:09:27,504
and not caring about playing.
1256
01:09:27,546 --> 01:09:29,297
And I didn't want
anything to do with her.
1257
01:09:29,339 --> 01:09:31,299
We did everything
to get rid of Nancy
1258
01:09:31,341 --> 01:09:33,510
that was physically possible.
1259
01:09:33,552 --> 01:09:35,554
I even dangled her
1260
01:09:35,637 --> 01:09:38,849
out of a window one night,
by her ankles.
1261
01:09:38,890 --> 01:09:41,560
And the rest of the band
hated me...
1262
01:09:41,601 --> 01:09:43,937
'cause I was with
the New York Dolls...
1263
01:09:43,979 --> 01:09:46,064
Johnny and Jerry,
and they were junkies.
1264
01:09:46,106 --> 01:09:47,774
# Fix #
1265
01:09:47,816 --> 01:09:50,152
# My baby... #
1266
01:09:56,158 --> 01:09:58,493
They definitely brought
a lot of heroin around, too.
1267
01:09:58,535 --> 01:10:01,747
And I know Sid was totally into
Johnny Thunders.
1268
01:10:01,788 --> 01:10:03,874
I like the New York Dolls,
1269
01:10:03,915 --> 01:10:07,586
'cause they were nasty and mean,
and they wore makeup,
1270
01:10:07,627 --> 01:10:09,254
and they didn't give a shit.
1271
01:10:09,296 --> 01:10:11,548
And they played
godawful rock and roll.
1272
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:14,301
And they had good names,
and good hairdos.
1273
01:10:14,342 --> 01:10:16,678
It definitely had
a big effect on me.
1274
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,638
I thought he was
the coolest thing ever...
1275
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,390
Thunders, at that time.
1276
01:10:20,432 --> 01:10:22,434
I started stealing
some of his stances,
1277
01:10:22,517 --> 01:10:24,686
and his looks, and, you know,
his moves on stage.
1278
01:10:24,728 --> 01:10:27,272
I look back at it now,
and I'm embarrassed
1279
01:10:27,355 --> 01:10:29,816
at how much I fucking was trying
to copy him.
1280
01:10:29,858 --> 01:10:32,486
I didn't need to do that.
I had my own thing already.
1281
01:10:32,527 --> 01:10:35,155
My invention to the Sex Pistols
1282
01:10:35,197 --> 01:10:36,990
was the hanky on the head.
1283
01:10:37,908 --> 01:10:40,994
It was kind of funny, actually,
when I used to see fans doing it,
1284
01:10:41,036 --> 01:10:43,538
I thought, "Oh, look, they're
doing something I invented."
1285
01:10:43,580 --> 01:10:45,624
Cunt, shit, bollocks.
1286
01:10:45,665 --> 01:10:47,584
Bill Grundy's a poof!
1287
01:10:47,626 --> 01:10:50,378
Because I've made my self-esteem
rise an inch.
1288
01:10:51,797 --> 01:10:55,008
Leatherjackets
came with the heroin.
1289
01:10:55,050 --> 01:10:59,179
Vampirish goth look
came with the heroin.
1290
01:10:59,221 --> 01:11:01,515
This ruined Sid...
1291
01:11:01,556 --> 01:11:03,934
Here, want one of these?
1292
01:11:03,975 --> 01:11:06,853
Because he was a complete
gullible fashion victim.
1293
01:11:07,729 --> 01:11:11,316
Sid went straight into the worst
kind of rock and roll idiot
1294
01:11:11,358 --> 01:11:13,860
you could ever hope to have
a nightmare about.
1295
01:11:15,403 --> 01:11:17,989
He didn't get that
what we were doing was...
1296
01:11:18,031 --> 01:11:20,408
Who wants some safety pins?
1297
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:22,619
Our culture, our life.
1298
01:11:24,579 --> 01:11:26,164
Who else wants something?
1299
01:11:26,248 --> 01:11:28,750
Come on if you want
something, you cunts!
1300
01:11:30,961 --> 01:11:34,631
Alls I can tell you is yes,
I can take on England,
1301
01:11:34,673 --> 01:11:37,676
but I couldn't take on
one heroin addict.
1302
01:11:37,759 --> 01:11:40,470
Oh, look, Sid.
1303
01:11:43,807 --> 01:11:46,643
At a time where we should have
been the tightest,
1304
01:11:46,685 --> 01:11:49,062
it couldn't be looser.
1305
01:11:55,527 --> 01:11:58,864
# There's no point in asking,
you'll get no reply #
1306
01:11:58,905 --> 01:12:02,367
# Oh, just remember
I don't decide #
1307
01:12:02,450 --> 01:12:05,620
# I got no reason,
it's all too much #
1308
01:12:05,662 --> 01:12:08,456
# You'll always find us #
1309
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:12,586
# Out to lunch #
1310
01:12:14,588 --> 01:12:17,841
# We're so pretty,
oh, so pretty #
1311
01:12:19,134 --> 01:12:21,178
# We're vacant #
1312
01:12:21,219 --> 01:12:23,430
It's a pity in a way.
All these rich kids...
1313
01:12:23,471 --> 01:12:26,808
Becoming punks.
I find that revolting.
1314
01:12:26,850 --> 01:12:28,602
It's like an army now,
1315
01:12:28,643 --> 01:12:31,855
a faction... chic.
1316
01:12:31,897 --> 01:12:33,857
I'm not chic.
1317
01:12:33,899 --> 01:12:36,359
I could never be chic.
1318
01:12:36,401 --> 01:12:38,570
I was in it from its inception.
1319
01:12:38,612 --> 01:12:41,990
# There's no point in asking,
you'll get no reply #
1320
01:12:42,032 --> 01:12:45,577
# Just remember I don't decide #
1321
01:12:45,660 --> 01:12:46,828
The punks ruined it...
1322
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:51,291
They adopted a uniform image
in attitude,
1323
01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:55,253
and the whole thing
was about being yourself.
1324
01:12:57,631 --> 01:13:01,134
# We're so pretty,
oh, so pretty... #
1325
01:13:01,176 --> 01:13:04,095
# Ah... vacant #
1326
01:13:04,721 --> 01:13:08,475
The cliche punk look
which became the postcard punk
1327
01:13:08,516 --> 01:13:11,436
with a Mohican, and all black,
with spiky hair and all that.
1328
01:13:11,478 --> 01:13:13,396
It was never like that
to start with.
1329
01:13:13,438 --> 01:13:15,565
They didn't have the money
1330
01:13:15,607 --> 01:13:17,525
to go out and buy
a 50 quid leatherjacket
1331
01:13:17,567 --> 01:13:20,487
it was very much a do-it-yourself
kind of thing, you know?
1332
01:13:21,655 --> 01:13:23,823
# ...and we don't care #
1333
01:13:26,076 --> 01:13:28,245
And all those garbage,
trashy bands...
1334
01:13:28,286 --> 01:13:30,830
Basically all saying,
"Yeah, we're a punk band,"
1335
01:13:30,872 --> 01:13:35,543
wrecked it outright.
It became acceptable...
1336
01:13:35,585 --> 01:13:38,129
Absorbed back into the system.
1337
01:13:38,171 --> 01:13:40,215
The shitstem.
1338
01:13:43,385 --> 01:13:45,845
# We're pretty... #
1339
01:13:46,179 --> 01:13:47,764
# Pretty vacant #
1340
01:13:47,806 --> 01:13:48,723
I'm a punk!
1341
01:13:48,765 --> 01:13:51,434
# And we don't care! #
1342
01:13:56,022 --> 01:13:57,983
Mummy, mummy, come quick!
1343
01:13:59,276 --> 01:14:00,902
They've killed Bambi!
1344
01:14:02,654 --> 01:14:05,115
"Who killed Bambi"
was Malcolm's idea.
1345
01:14:05,156 --> 01:14:08,535
We were musicians.
We didn't want to make a film.
1346
01:14:09,786 --> 01:14:12,747
Malcolm was very good at
spending other people's money.
1347
01:14:12,789 --> 01:14:15,083
But there was a load
being put into the film
1348
01:14:15,125 --> 01:14:17,877
from the band's royalties,
which we didn't know about.
1349
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,800
I remember just turning up
to do a scene...
1350
01:14:23,842 --> 01:14:26,069
there was this guy there, I thought,
"Oh, he looks familiar..."
1351
01:14:26,094 --> 01:14:28,722
Do you know the way
to Hindley Airfield, mate?
1352
01:14:28,763 --> 01:14:30,557
And I said,
"I know you from somewhere,"
1353
01:14:30,598 --> 01:14:32,267
and it was Sting.
1354
01:14:32,309 --> 01:14:35,312
It was his motion picture debut,
I believe.
1355
01:14:35,353 --> 01:14:38,023
So it's flying lessons
you're after, is it?
1356
01:14:39,274 --> 01:14:43,820
Well, you've come
to the right place, Sex Pistol.
1357
01:14:43,862 --> 01:14:45,989
Be advised, drummer boy...
1358
01:14:46,031 --> 01:14:49,701
We're the sensational
new Blow Waves,
1359
01:14:49,743 --> 01:14:52,078
and we know how to sell
more records
1360
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,247
than Malcolm McLaren.
1361
01:14:54,289 --> 01:14:56,416
And I knew
that it was just trash,
1362
01:14:56,458 --> 01:14:59,836
rubbishing
the whole point and purpose.
1363
01:14:59,878 --> 01:15:02,380
We believe in rock and roll,
1364
01:15:02,422 --> 01:15:05,175
and we don't need you,
Sex Pistol.
1365
01:15:05,216 --> 01:15:07,218
The record companies know
1366
01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:09,137
that our music
means more to them
1367
01:15:09,179 --> 01:15:11,598
than your sick anarchy ever did.
1368
01:15:11,639 --> 01:15:13,433
Get out of my car, you cunts!
1369
01:15:13,475 --> 01:15:15,560
He used to really
get the hump, McLaren,
1370
01:15:15,602 --> 01:15:17,437
when we started asking
for money,
1371
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,147
so I stopped asking for it.
1372
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:21,691
We never had our own lawyer,
which is insanity.
1373
01:15:21,733 --> 01:15:25,236
That's the closest thing to being
in one of these boy bands...
1374
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,614
Is that they all get reamed,
1375
01:15:27,655 --> 01:15:30,742
and we were getting reamed
in that department.
1376
01:15:30,784 --> 01:15:33,870
How can you be a Sex Pistol
with no money?
1377
01:15:33,912 --> 01:15:37,332
You ring the office,
you get zero response,
1378
01:15:37,374 --> 01:15:40,418
your checks weren't paid,
1379
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:44,798
no rent, no earnings,
a complete disaster.
1380
01:15:44,839 --> 01:15:49,302
It was wonderful.
"God Save the Queen"!
1381
01:15:49,344 --> 01:15:51,971
It was a monkey's tea party.
1382
01:15:52,013 --> 01:15:54,474
What the fuck
was the manager doing?
1383
01:15:54,516 --> 01:15:57,936
The one that claimed that
he was manipulating everything...
1384
01:15:57,977 --> 01:16:00,438
Manipulated nothing.
1385
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:02,982
He was clueless at that point.
1386
01:16:03,024 --> 01:16:05,360
Once we said,
"We're fucking leaving the group
1387
01:16:05,402 --> 01:16:08,822
unless you fucking get us some gigs,
you stupid little cunt,"
1388
01:16:08,863 --> 01:16:11,199
he got something together
the next day.
1389
01:16:11,241 --> 01:16:13,368
Well, he could have done that
all the time.
1390
01:16:13,410 --> 01:16:17,288
"Spots" was a good one...
Sex Pistols on tour.
1391
01:16:17,330 --> 01:16:19,916
But I thought it was dreadful
that we had to, like,
1392
01:16:19,958 --> 01:16:23,336
not be ourselves, and go
under secret monikers.
1393
01:16:23,378 --> 01:16:26,548
I'm a Sex Pistol, and that's it.
1394
01:16:32,429 --> 01:16:35,098
And we just did these secret
gigs in the small clubs,
1395
01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:38,351
and it was just packed with fans
who'd never seen us.
1396
01:16:38,393 --> 01:16:40,103
And they were like
the best shows, man.
1397
01:16:40,145 --> 01:16:42,021
They were fucking great.
1398
01:16:49,195 --> 01:16:52,198
# A cheap holiday
in other people's misery #
1399
01:16:58,496 --> 01:17:01,583
# I don't want a holiday
in the sun #
1400
01:17:01,624 --> 01:17:04,836
# I wanna go to the new Belsen #
1401
01:17:04,878 --> 01:17:07,964
# I wanna see some history #
1402
01:17:08,006 --> 01:17:10,967
# 'Cause now I got
a reasonable economy #
1403
01:17:11,009 --> 01:17:14,387
# Now I got a reason,
now I got a reason #
1404
01:17:14,429 --> 01:17:17,765
# Now I got a reason,
and I'm still waiting #
1405
01:17:17,807 --> 01:17:20,894
# Now I got a reason,
now I got a reason #
1406
01:17:20,935 --> 01:17:23,371
# To be waiting #
1407
01:17:23,396 --> 01:17:25,857
# The Berlin wall #
1408
01:17:33,823 --> 01:17:38,119
I thought "Holidays in the Sun"
was our crowning glory.
1409
01:17:40,788 --> 01:17:44,209
# Sensurround sound
in a two-inch wall #
1410
01:17:44,250 --> 01:17:47,587
# I was waiting
for the communist call #
1411
01:17:47,629 --> 01:17:51,049
# I didn't ask for sunshine
and I got World War Ill #
1412
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:54,802
# I'm looking over the wall
and they're looking at me #
1413
01:17:54,844 --> 01:17:57,597
# Now I got a reason,
now I got a reason #
1414
01:17:57,639 --> 01:18:01,017
# Now I got a reason,
and I'm still waiting #
1415
01:18:01,059 --> 01:18:04,312
# Now I got a reason,
now I got a reason #
1416
01:18:04,354 --> 01:18:06,397
# To be waiting #
1417
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,733
# The Berlin Wall #
1418
01:18:21,996 --> 01:18:25,124
Huddersfield, I remember
very fondly.
1419
01:18:25,166 --> 01:18:27,919
Two concerts, a matinee,
1420
01:18:27,961 --> 01:18:31,272
with children
throwing pies at me,
1421
01:18:31,297 --> 01:18:35,426
and later on that night,
striking union members.
1422
01:18:35,468 --> 01:18:37,929
It was heaven.
1423
01:18:37,971 --> 01:18:40,640
He wants dad back at work,
1424
01:18:40,682 --> 01:18:43,643
which I think
is a very good idea, indeed.
1425
01:18:43,685 --> 01:18:45,603
It was like
our Christmas party, really.
1426
01:18:45,645 --> 01:18:47,897
I remember everyone being
really relaxed that day.
1427
01:18:47,939 --> 01:18:50,108
Everyone was getting on
really well,
1428
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:52,193
and everyone
was in such a great mood.
1429
01:18:52,235 --> 01:18:54,445
'Cause it was a benefit
for the kids
1430
01:18:54,487 --> 01:18:56,906
of firemen who were on strike
around that time,
1431
01:18:56,948 --> 01:18:59,075
and who'd been on strike
for a long time.
1432
01:18:59,117 --> 01:19:01,369
And I've written
to Santa Claus today,
1433
01:19:01,411 --> 01:19:03,580
and I have got you a skateboard.
1434
01:19:03,621 --> 01:19:05,832
Lot of love in the house,
1435
01:19:05,873 --> 01:19:09,043
and Sid was great that day.
1436
01:19:09,085 --> 01:19:12,964
Everything about it
was just wonderful.
1437
01:19:14,716 --> 01:19:18,720
Okay, gang, this party
is given to you absolutely free
1438
01:19:18,761 --> 01:19:21,639
and at the expense
of the Sex Pistols,
1439
01:19:21,681 --> 01:19:23,558
so let's have a big cheer
for the Sex Pistols.
1440
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:24,934
Come on, let's hear you!
1441
01:19:42,243 --> 01:19:45,163
# She was a girl
from Birmingham #
1442
01:19:45,204 --> 01:19:48,249
# She just had an abortion #
1443
01:19:48,291 --> 01:19:51,519
# She was a case of insanity #
1444
01:19:51,544 --> 01:19:54,797
# Her name was Pauline,
she lived in a tree #
1445
01:19:54,839 --> 01:19:57,800
# She was a no one
who killed her baby #
1446
01:19:57,842 --> 01:20:01,095
# She sent her letter
from the country #
1447
01:20:01,137 --> 01:20:03,848
# She was an animal #
1448
01:20:03,890 --> 01:20:06,934
# She was a bloody disgrace #
1449
01:20:06,976 --> 01:20:09,704
# Body #
1450
01:20:09,729 --> 01:20:12,190
# I'm not an animal #
1451
01:20:13,608 --> 01:20:16,486
# Body #
1452
01:20:16,527 --> 01:20:18,488
# I'm not an animal #
1453
01:20:19,864 --> 01:20:22,325
It's not a question
of an Ml5 blacklist,
1454
01:20:22,367 --> 01:20:25,119
there are certain groups
whom we do not regard with favor,
1455
01:20:25,161 --> 01:20:27,705
and whom I personally will do
everything I can
1456
01:20:27,747 --> 01:20:30,083
within the law to prevent
ever coming to London again.
1457
01:20:30,124 --> 01:20:33,086
# Fuck this and fuck that #
1458
01:20:33,127 --> 01:20:36,464
# Fuck it all
and fuck the fucking brat #
1459
01:20:36,506 --> 01:20:39,759
# She don't want a baby
who looks like that #
1460
01:20:39,801 --> 01:20:42,970
# I don't want a baby
who looks like that #
1461
01:20:43,012 --> 01:20:45,473
# Body #
1462
01:20:45,515 --> 01:20:47,558
# I'm not an animal #
1463
01:20:49,435 --> 01:20:52,397
# Body #
1464
01:20:52,438 --> 01:20:54,273
# An unborn kid #
1465
01:20:55,775 --> 01:20:57,568
# An animal #
1466
01:20:58,820 --> 01:21:00,947
# I'm not an animal #
1467
01:21:02,198 --> 01:21:04,242
# I'm not an animal, an animal #
1468
01:21:04,283 --> 01:21:06,869
# I'm not an animal
I ain't no animal #
1469
01:21:08,621 --> 01:21:10,373
# I'm not a body #
1470
01:21:11,874 --> 01:21:14,627
# I'm not an animal, an animal #
1471
01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:17,171
# I ain't no an animal
I'm not an animal #
1472
01:21:17,213 --> 01:21:19,006
# I'm not an animal... #
1473
01:21:19,048 --> 01:21:20,967
# Mommy! #
1474
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:31,769
I think that was
our last gig in England.
1475
01:21:33,146 --> 01:21:35,106
- Who's this?
- Sex Pistols.
1476
01:21:35,148 --> 01:21:36,441
Sid Vicious?
1477
01:21:36,482 --> 01:21:37,817
Yes.
1478
01:21:37,859 --> 01:21:40,628
This is Rodney Bingenheimer
from "Rodney on the Roq" show.
1479
01:21:40,653 --> 01:21:43,781
Oh, hi, man.
No future.
1480
01:21:43,823 --> 01:21:46,576
Is Johnny Rotten there?
1481
01:21:46,617 --> 01:21:49,454
- Yeah.
- Hey, how are you doing?
1482
01:21:49,495 --> 01:21:51,372
I'm doing all right.
1483
01:21:51,414 --> 01:21:54,167
You'll be coming to America
soon, won't you?
1484
01:21:54,208 --> 01:21:56,627
Get work, move to California.
1485
01:21:56,669 --> 01:21:59,480
- Come to California
- It's the best.
1486
01:21:59,505 --> 01:22:01,632
Oh, I don't know...
1487
01:22:01,674 --> 01:22:04,218
Can you get egg and chips?
1488
01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:06,763
You can do anything
you want here, man.
1489
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:11,100
No one is repressed in L.A.
1490
01:22:11,142 --> 01:22:14,645
Oh, yes you are.
Mentally repressed, dear.
1491
01:22:14,687 --> 01:22:17,398
Right... that's true.
1492
01:22:20,234 --> 01:22:22,737
This week on Don Kirshner's
Rock Concert...
1493
01:22:22,779 --> 01:22:24,572
The incredible Kansas...
1494
01:22:24,614 --> 01:22:27,200
Family Funk from the Sylvers...
1495
01:22:27,241 --> 01:22:30,620
The outrageousness
of the Sex Pistols.
1496
01:22:30,661 --> 01:22:33,456
Some slick dealing
from Ricky Jay,
1497
01:22:33,498 --> 01:22:36,459
and funnyman Robert Aguayo.
1498
01:22:37,919 --> 01:22:39,854
We had trouble getting our visas
1499
01:22:39,879 --> 01:22:42,173
'cause we had criminal records,
all of us.
1500
01:22:42,215 --> 01:22:44,717
They strip-searched us
at the airport,
1501
01:22:44,759 --> 01:22:48,513
and thank god Sid was
the first one they strip-searched,
1502
01:22:48,554 --> 01:22:52,183
'Cause as soon as they've seen
his underwear...
1503
01:22:52,225 --> 01:22:54,352
That was it, we were safe.
1504
01:22:54,393 --> 01:22:58,231
They had no wish to play
1505
01:22:58,272 --> 01:23:01,025
with the rest of our willies
after that point.
1506
01:23:01,317 --> 01:23:02,860
Across the globe
1507
01:23:02,902 --> 01:23:06,531
they achieved a notoriety
in 19 languages.
1508
01:23:06,572 --> 01:23:10,535
In the city, voted
"Young businessmen of the year"
1509
01:23:10,576 --> 01:23:12,370
by the Investors' Review.
1510
01:23:12,411 --> 01:23:15,164
On Fleet Street,
they sold more papers
1511
01:23:15,206 --> 01:23:17,083
than the Armistice.
1512
01:23:17,124 --> 01:23:19,544
They didn't care
about the music...
1513
01:23:19,585 --> 01:23:22,129
They were purely into chaos.
1514
01:23:22,171 --> 01:23:24,298
Security was tight
for the arrival
1515
01:23:24,340 --> 01:23:28,052
of the infamous punk rock group
known as the Sex Pistols,
1516
01:23:28,094 --> 01:23:30,763
that naughty bunch
of counter-culture radicals.
1517
01:23:30,805 --> 01:23:32,765
Warner records had warned
1518
01:23:32,807 --> 01:23:35,434
that the group might attack
members of the American Press,
1519
01:23:35,476 --> 01:23:37,353
but when Steve Jones, Paul Cook,
1520
01:23:37,395 --> 01:23:39,939
Johnny Rotten,
and Sid Vicious arrived,
1521
01:23:39,981 --> 01:23:42,275
this is what they had to say...
1522
01:23:44,527 --> 01:23:45,945
Nothing.
1523
01:23:46,404 --> 01:23:48,281
Well, coming to America...
1524
01:23:48,322 --> 01:23:50,867
was definitely
a strange experience.
1525
01:23:50,908 --> 01:23:53,870
Ow-ww! Fucking kick me
in the fucking balls?
1526
01:23:53,911 --> 01:23:55,580
We had, like,
these bodyguards...
1527
01:23:55,621 --> 01:23:57,248
With walkie-talkies, and that...
1528
01:23:57,290 --> 01:24:00,543
Continually followed by,
like, FBI
1529
01:24:00,585 --> 01:24:03,880
and fucking CIA,
and 50 journalists.
1530
01:24:03,921 --> 01:24:05,882
It was kinda scary.
1531
01:24:05,923 --> 01:24:09,110
And here they are...
At least two of them...
1532
01:24:09,135 --> 01:24:11,095
In a hotel room in Atlanta,
1533
01:24:11,137 --> 01:24:13,848
waiting for the other two
to do a promised interview.
1534
01:24:13,890 --> 01:24:15,641
But they're in a strange mood...
1535
01:24:15,683 --> 01:24:19,103
Flaky... demanding they be paid
ten bucks
1536
01:24:19,145 --> 01:24:22,481
before they'll do any
"bleep-bleep" interview.
1537
01:24:22,523 --> 01:24:24,692
Denied that, they stomp off.
1538
01:24:24,734 --> 01:24:26,986
"Bleep," they say.
1539
01:24:28,154 --> 01:24:31,198
When the four young men left,
their spit was on the carpet,
1540
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,783
their butts on the floor.
1541
01:24:32,825 --> 01:24:35,369
The dregs of an afternoon's
beer and booze,
1542
01:24:35,411 --> 01:24:38,748
and a couple of empty boxes
of Clearasil.
1543
01:24:38,789 --> 01:24:42,752
They left the hotel
to go to a sex devices store,
1544
01:24:42,793 --> 01:24:46,130
and then to their first concert
in America.
1545
01:24:50,676 --> 01:24:54,555
We didn't come from America,
we didn't understand America,
1546
01:24:54,597 --> 01:24:56,991
so how the fuck
could they understand us?
1547
01:24:57,016 --> 01:24:59,518
Okay, all you cowboys.
1548
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,145
You faggots!
1549
01:25:01,187 --> 01:25:05,833
And I said, "You fucking
motherfucking faggot cowboys."
1550
01:25:05,858 --> 01:25:09,195
They were throwing
a rain of bottles and beer cans,
1551
01:25:09,236 --> 01:25:11,656
and pigs' noses,
and fuck knows what.
1552
01:25:11,697 --> 01:25:13,658
Anarchy in...
1553
01:25:13,699 --> 01:25:16,010
I got a full can of beer
smashed right on my lip.
1554
01:25:16,035 --> 01:25:17,411
The U-S of A.
1555
01:25:17,453 --> 01:25:20,414
Fucking big fat lip
with blood dripping down it.
1556
01:25:20,456 --> 01:25:22,850
The gigs were
pretty frightening,
1557
01:25:22,875 --> 01:25:25,586
'cause of all the publicity
that had preceded us.
1558
01:25:25,628 --> 01:25:27,880
People were coming there
just to see this freak show.
1559
01:25:27,922 --> 01:25:30,132
They thought we were gonna be
sick on stage,
1560
01:25:30,174 --> 01:25:32,360
crap on stage,
beat each other up,
1561
01:25:32,385 --> 01:25:34,929
kill each other...
Well, it was partly true.
1562
01:25:36,013 --> 01:25:38,557
# I am an antichrist #
1563
01:25:38,599 --> 01:25:41,894
# I am an anarchist... #
1564
01:25:42,895 --> 01:25:44,897
Then Sid started
beating himself,
1565
01:25:44,939 --> 01:25:49,318
cutting himself on stage,
and totally being out to lunch.
1566
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,570
# L... #
1567
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:54,323
# Wanna be #
1568
01:25:54,365 --> 01:25:56,867
Birds were better looking
in America, that's for sure.
1569
01:25:56,909 --> 01:25:58,719
I really enjoyed
that part of it,
1570
01:25:58,744 --> 01:26:00,121
and they knew how to suck dick.
1571
01:26:00,162 --> 01:26:02,373
They learn at an early age here.
1572
01:26:03,541 --> 01:26:06,085
Sid loved the Pistols...
1573
01:26:06,127 --> 01:26:08,087
As a fan...
1574
01:26:08,129 --> 01:26:11,966
but being on stage with us,
he couldn't cope.
1575
01:26:12,008 --> 01:26:13,901
He wasn't being himself anymore,
1576
01:26:13,926 --> 01:26:15,970
he was trying to be
Johnny Rotten...
1577
01:26:16,012 --> 01:26:18,139
with the drugs.
1578
01:26:18,180 --> 01:26:21,225
And that showed, I think,
to my mind, very bad.
1579
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,565
The fucking Texas patrolmen
took me...
1580
01:26:27,648 --> 01:26:29,917
and threw me out the door.
1581
01:26:29,942 --> 01:26:31,669
And they have the authority
'cause they have a badge,
1582
01:26:31,694 --> 01:26:33,529
and they have a fucking
billy club and a gun.
1583
01:26:37,533 --> 01:26:40,244
Malcolm, he liked the idea
of Sid being outrageous,
1584
01:26:40,286 --> 01:26:42,872
however much it
fucked things up for the band.
1585
01:26:42,913 --> 01:26:45,958
I think he encouraged him.
I remember Sid saying once...
1586
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,436
"He could never be
outrageous enough."
1587
01:26:48,461 --> 01:26:50,421
And Malcolm's going,
"Yes, yes, I agree."
1588
01:26:50,463 --> 01:26:52,757
"You can go mad,
go all the way."
1589
01:26:54,133 --> 01:26:56,761
It says to me that I should do
what I wanna do, you know?
1590
01:26:56,802 --> 01:26:59,055
And just fuck everybody else.
1591
01:26:59,096 --> 01:27:01,390
Just fuck everybody else,
you know? Just fuck 'em.
1592
01:27:04,477 --> 01:27:06,395
They moved me,
they made me shake
1593
01:27:06,437 --> 01:27:08,272
more than I've ever
shook before,
1594
01:27:08,314 --> 01:27:10,524
and that's what...
what makes them the best.
1595
01:27:15,321 --> 01:27:16,989
I think I heard one time
that they...
1596
01:27:17,031 --> 01:27:18,299
urinated on the audience
one time.
1597
01:27:18,324 --> 01:27:20,034
Why, I don't know.
It just sounds goofy.
1598
01:27:20,076 --> 01:27:22,411
- Get outta here!
- What are they saying?
1599
01:27:22,453 --> 01:27:24,246
Get outta here!
1600
01:27:24,288 --> 01:27:26,916
It's better than homework.
1601
01:27:26,957 --> 01:27:29,085
Get the fuck outta here!
1602
01:27:31,545 --> 01:27:33,422
You faggot fucker!
1603
01:27:36,467 --> 01:27:40,321
Yeah, the guy fucking tried
to climb up on stage
1604
01:27:40,346 --> 01:27:42,264
and fucking attack me,
1605
01:27:42,306 --> 01:27:45,601
so I smashed his fucking brains
in with my guitar.
1606
01:27:45,643 --> 01:27:48,020
He knew that I meant
physical harm,
1607
01:27:48,062 --> 01:27:50,356
and I have to say
I was ugly about it.
1608
01:27:50,397 --> 01:27:53,025
But he came out and hit us
over the head with the bass.
1609
01:27:53,067 --> 01:27:54,860
They were great.
1610
01:27:54,902 --> 01:27:57,613
If I could only make out
the words, they'd be greater.
1611
01:27:57,655 --> 01:28:00,074
That was my first time
in America.
1612
01:28:00,116 --> 01:28:04,036
Sid would sit next to me,
and we'd look out the window,
1613
01:28:04,078 --> 01:28:08,332
and we'd stare
at that endless scenery,
1614
01:28:08,374 --> 01:28:11,127
and imagine John Wayne
and the Indians.
1615
01:28:11,168 --> 01:28:14,630
You wouldn't sleep.
You wouldn't want to,
1616
01:28:14,672 --> 01:28:17,800
because it was so first time.
1617
01:28:26,684 --> 01:28:31,372
Steve and Paul flew
around America with Malcolm.
1618
01:28:31,397 --> 01:28:33,482
Steven,
what kind of badge you got?
1619
01:28:33,524 --> 01:28:35,526
I don't know.
Safety department.
1620
01:28:35,568 --> 01:28:37,403
Safety department.
That's very good.
1621
01:28:37,444 --> 01:28:39,405
Say goodbye.
Say goodbye.
1622
01:28:39,446 --> 01:28:41,740
They didn't want to be
on the tour bus,
1623
01:28:41,782 --> 01:28:46,787
'cause they were "really bored
with that reggae, man."
1624
01:28:47,955 --> 01:28:50,374
Steve and Paul
are a pair of sheep.
1625
01:28:51,625 --> 01:28:54,211
They do what Malcolm says.
1626
01:28:54,253 --> 01:28:56,547
Sid was just looking for smack,
1627
01:28:56,589 --> 01:28:59,425
and being an idiot.
Rotten got into his ego...
1628
01:28:59,466 --> 01:29:02,553
it just got really depressing,
really quick.
1629
01:29:02,595 --> 01:29:05,431
But the point is, Sid's my mate,
1630
01:29:05,472 --> 01:29:08,058
and I don't want him
to be a junkie.
1631
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:10,394
This is why we traveled
on the bus,
1632
01:29:10,436 --> 01:29:13,147
this is why Sid was to stick
with me,
1633
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:14,957
and like, the others
just didn't understand.
1634
01:29:14,982 --> 01:29:18,152
They thought,
"Oh, you can handle it, man."
1635
01:29:18,194 --> 01:29:20,362
But, like, dope sickness
isn't like that.
1636
01:29:20,404 --> 01:29:22,615
It's not something
that you can just blow away.
1637
01:29:22,656 --> 01:29:25,534
It's the worst sickness
you could ever imagine.
1638
01:29:25,576 --> 01:29:29,079
He was far too young
for that shit,
1639
01:29:29,121 --> 01:29:32,625
and un-American for that shit.
1640
01:29:32,666 --> 01:29:36,212
I can drink,
and I can drink a druggie
1641
01:29:36,253 --> 01:29:38,297
out of being a druggie.
1642
01:29:38,339 --> 01:29:41,300
And I will do that
for my friends,
1643
01:29:41,342 --> 01:29:44,178
every time, any time.
1644
01:29:44,220 --> 01:29:47,014
You can't get comfortable,
and you sweat...
1645
01:29:47,056 --> 01:29:50,226
and you're boiling hot
and you pour with sweat.
1646
01:29:50,267 --> 01:29:52,519
And your nose dribbles and...
1647
01:29:52,561 --> 01:29:54,788
and all of a sudden
you get the colds,
1648
01:29:54,813 --> 01:29:56,982
and the sweat turns
to fucking ice on you,
1649
01:29:57,024 --> 01:29:59,026
and you put a jumper on.
1650
01:29:59,068 --> 01:30:01,128
Then you're boiling hot again,
and you take it off, and, like,
1651
01:30:01,153 --> 01:30:04,031
you get cold again and, like,
you just can't win.
1652
01:30:04,073 --> 01:30:06,467
And you lie down,
and that's not comfortable,
1653
01:30:06,492 --> 01:30:08,677
you sit up, that's not comfortable.
It drives you insane.
1654
01:30:08,702 --> 01:30:10,971
I despise Sid for it,
1655
01:30:10,996 --> 01:30:15,668
and I'll despise anyone
for messing with it ever since.
1656
01:30:15,709 --> 01:30:22,007
It is the only drug that really
cancels out all creativity.
1657
01:30:22,049 --> 01:30:24,485
It is about self-pity.
1658
01:30:24,510 --> 01:30:29,014
It is the lowest,
worst form of life.
1659
01:30:31,183 --> 01:30:33,352
Well, he wasn't even playing
at the end.
1660
01:30:33,394 --> 01:30:35,479
You know, he could barely
play it anyway.
1661
01:30:35,521 --> 01:30:37,164
Half the time he wasn't even
plugged in.
1662
01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:38,857
It was like a joke.
It was like...
1663
01:30:38,899 --> 01:30:40,567
"What the fuck am I up here for?
1664
01:30:40,609 --> 01:30:44,113
What am I doing with this fucking,
like, kind of circus?"
1665
01:30:44,154 --> 01:30:45,864
I just didn't want
any part of it.
1666
01:30:45,906 --> 01:30:48,659
In the end, like,
I was the only one
1667
01:30:48,701 --> 01:30:50,452
who had any anarchy left in me.
1668
01:30:50,494 --> 01:30:52,830
The rest of the band,
they couldn't fucking take it.
1669
01:30:52,871 --> 01:30:57,084
And then we got to, like...
Like I said, San Francisco,
1670
01:30:57,126 --> 01:31:00,020
and Malcolm's in town,
1671
01:31:00,045 --> 01:31:01,855
and Sid goes off with Malcolm,
1672
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,342
suddenly Sid comes back
smacked up.
1673
01:31:07,219 --> 01:31:09,054
Winterland...
The final countdown.
1674
01:31:09,096 --> 01:31:12,141
It wasn't a rock and roll party.
1675
01:31:12,182 --> 01:31:14,059
It was more like a dying horse
1676
01:31:14,101 --> 01:31:16,645
that needed putting
out of its misery.
1677
01:31:17,688 --> 01:31:20,065
But Malcolm saw it more
as a media circus.
1678
01:31:20,107 --> 01:31:22,359
He didn't realize
what a great band we were.
1679
01:31:22,401 --> 01:31:24,903
This is KSAM in San Francisco,
1680
01:31:24,945 --> 01:31:27,906
with the Sex Pistols,
live from Winterland.
1681
01:31:29,408 --> 01:31:32,720
Throughout the show, people
were hurling things at them.
1682
01:31:32,745 --> 01:31:35,497
From all over...
From above, from the sides,
1683
01:31:35,539 --> 01:31:37,541
from right down below...
And there were people
1684
01:31:37,583 --> 01:31:40,210
jumping up on stage
and being carried off.
1685
01:31:40,252 --> 01:31:41,879
The stage is...
1686
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,756
Here they come.
1687
01:31:46,008 --> 01:31:49,737
It's not really impossible
in San Francisco
1688
01:31:49,762 --> 01:31:52,890
to have monitors that work.
1689
01:31:52,931 --> 01:31:54,308
Is it?
1690
01:31:54,350 --> 01:31:57,269
Is it impossible
to have a sound check?
1691
01:31:57,311 --> 01:31:58,896
No.
1692
01:31:58,937 --> 01:32:01,231
Here's the encore
of the Sex Pistols.
1693
01:32:02,441 --> 01:32:05,569
Malcolm would set it up
to look ridiculous.
1694
01:32:05,611 --> 01:32:07,279
We were all cheated...
1695
01:32:07,321 --> 01:32:10,824
Audience...
and lead singer alike.
1696
01:32:12,493 --> 01:32:15,037
You'll get one number
and one number only,
1697
01:32:15,079 --> 01:32:17,039
'cause I'm a lazy bastard.
1698
01:32:17,081 --> 01:32:20,334
You have to understand,
they stayed in a very nice hotel.
1699
01:32:20,376 --> 01:32:22,211
This is "no fun."
1700
01:32:22,252 --> 01:32:26,173
Me and Sid were not allowed
in that very nice hotel.
1701
01:32:26,215 --> 01:32:30,386
We had to stay with
the road crew in a motel.
1702
01:32:30,427 --> 01:32:34,782
The sheer lack of respect...
for Malcolm...
1703
01:32:34,807 --> 01:32:37,284
And him not returning a call...
1704
01:32:37,309 --> 01:32:39,520
That was it for me.
1705
01:32:43,107 --> 01:32:45,292
It wasn't connived at all.
1706
01:32:45,317 --> 01:32:47,027
We got to our hotel
and booked in.
1707
01:32:47,069 --> 01:32:49,530
I wasn't aware that he didn't
get a room there.
1708
01:32:49,571 --> 01:32:51,782
So he ended up staying
somewhere else.
1709
01:32:53,951 --> 01:32:57,371
# No fun, my babe #
1710
01:32:57,413 --> 01:32:59,640
# No fun #
1711
01:32:59,665 --> 01:33:02,292
Malcolm was fucking with me.
1712
01:33:02,334 --> 01:33:06,713
I had no credit card,
and no money, no ticket.
1713
01:33:08,048 --> 01:33:09,633
He was trying to wreck
1714
01:33:09,675 --> 01:33:13,011
the very thing that made
the Sex Pistols great,
1715
01:33:13,053 --> 01:33:15,597
and he managed to achieve it
that night.
1716
01:33:15,639 --> 01:33:18,642
# ...fun to be alone #
1717
01:33:18,684 --> 01:33:20,994
# In love #
1718
01:33:21,019 --> 01:33:23,856
# With nobody else #
1719
01:33:25,274 --> 01:33:27,234
John came over,
and we tried to have
1720
01:33:27,276 --> 01:33:29,486
a "clear the air" talk,
and we said to him,
1721
01:33:29,528 --> 01:33:31,738
"l don't wanna carry on,
really much longer
1722
01:33:31,780 --> 01:33:34,491
the way this is going.
It's, like, just totally pointless.
1723
01:33:34,533 --> 01:33:36,343
Someone's gonna get killed,
you know?"
1724
01:33:36,368 --> 01:33:38,846
John said he thought
the problem was Malcolm,
1725
01:33:38,871 --> 01:33:41,498
and we should get rid
of Malcolm and carry on,
1726
01:33:41,540 --> 01:33:43,500
and try and work
it out that way.
1727
01:33:43,542 --> 01:33:46,753
# Fun to be alone #
1728
01:33:46,795 --> 01:33:50,424
# Walkin' by myself #
1729
01:33:50,466 --> 01:33:53,677
# Fun to be alone #
1730
01:33:53,719 --> 01:33:56,138
# In love #
1731
01:33:56,180 --> 01:33:58,849
# With nobody else #
1732
01:33:58,891 --> 01:34:00,350
I didn't really
hang out with John.
1733
01:34:00,392 --> 01:34:03,187
He was always draining to me.
Took up a lot of energy.
1734
01:34:03,228 --> 01:34:07,149
Malcolm I got along with, so
I kinda went on to McLaren's side.
1735
01:34:07,191 --> 01:34:09,067
Another thing I regret.
1736
01:34:09,109 --> 01:34:11,545
# Maybe call somebody
on the telephone #
1737
01:34:11,570 --> 01:34:14,323
# Well come on, my babe #
1738
01:34:14,364 --> 01:34:16,492
# Come on #
1739
01:34:20,078 --> 01:34:22,664
I'd have dropped Sid in a second
1740
01:34:22,706 --> 01:34:25,125
at that particular point
for the band,
1741
01:34:25,167 --> 01:34:27,294
because I knew
he was fucking up.
1742
01:34:27,336 --> 01:34:28,729
# No fun... #
1743
01:34:28,754 --> 01:34:30,063
That's a load of cobblers.
1744
01:34:30,088 --> 01:34:32,382
I was just playing bass,
and going crazy,
1745
01:34:32,424 --> 01:34:34,401
and leaping up and down.
And he thought I was trying
1746
01:34:34,426 --> 01:34:38,430
to take over his position
as the "New Johnny Rotten."
1747
01:34:38,472 --> 01:34:40,140
# No fun #
1748
01:34:42,184 --> 01:34:43,310
# No fun #
1749
01:34:43,352 --> 01:34:45,479
I don't wanna be a junkie
for the rest of my life.
1750
01:34:45,521 --> 01:34:48,023
I don't wanna be a junkie at all.
1751
01:34:52,694 --> 01:34:55,614
I knew the second
Sid would smack himself up again
1752
01:34:55,656 --> 01:34:57,908
that was the end.
1753
01:34:59,826 --> 01:35:02,871
# No... no fun #
1754
01:35:02,913 --> 01:35:05,098
# No fun #
1755
01:35:05,123 --> 01:35:08,502
# Alone... no fun #
1756
01:35:08,544 --> 01:35:09,770
# By myself, it's no fun... #
1757
01:35:09,795 --> 01:35:11,922
I was the one who said
"I've had enough."
1758
01:35:11,964 --> 01:35:13,382
I couldn't handle it any more.
1759
01:35:13,423 --> 01:35:16,426
I didn't want nothing to do
with Rotten and Vicious.
1760
01:35:17,469 --> 01:35:20,472
Oh, bollocks,
why should I carry on?
1761
01:35:20,514 --> 01:35:23,725
I regret saying
that I wanted out, and leaving.
1762
01:35:23,767 --> 01:35:25,978
I regret it, I really do.
1763
01:35:26,019 --> 01:35:29,690
And I apologized to John
that I fucking bailed.
1764
01:35:29,731 --> 01:35:31,942
# No fun #
1765
01:35:31,984 --> 01:35:35,445
We might have continued
if we'd have got rid of Malcolm.
1766
01:35:36,488 --> 01:35:38,782
# No fun... #
1767
01:35:38,824 --> 01:35:40,784
But that's just the way I felt.
1768
01:35:40,826 --> 01:35:43,579
And I couldn't get away
from my feelings at the time.
1769
01:35:46,206 --> 01:35:48,292
I knew it had to end.
1770
01:35:48,333 --> 01:35:50,335
I didn't think it would end...
1771
01:35:50,377 --> 01:35:54,214
with them being
total wanker cowards.
1772
01:35:57,384 --> 01:36:00,512
Steve and Paul
fannied out on me.
1773
01:36:03,223 --> 01:36:06,310
The last show was the worst show
I think we've ever played.
1774
01:36:06,351 --> 01:36:08,812
It was just like,
this ain't going nowhere.
1775
01:36:08,854 --> 01:36:12,065
This ain't going anywhere,
it's fucking over.
1776
01:36:13,567 --> 01:36:15,986
Cookie agreed,
and we just fucked off.
1777
01:36:24,578 --> 01:36:26,496
The night the group split up,
1778
01:36:26,538 --> 01:36:29,207
Vicious was pulled off a plane
at Kennedy Airport,
1779
01:36:29,249 --> 01:36:31,585
the victim of a drug overdose.
1780
01:36:32,544 --> 01:36:35,255
Despite all the hassles,
what was it that you thought
1781
01:36:35,297 --> 01:36:37,215
the Pistols were really
trying to do?
1782
01:36:37,257 --> 01:36:39,926
Was it just like really kick
the establishment up the arse?
1783
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,388
Sid?
1784
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:47,559
Sid, he's not interviewing me.
Please try and wake up.
1785
01:36:47,601 --> 01:36:49,603
Ow-ww!
1786
01:36:51,855 --> 01:36:54,524
Sid, damn you!
1787
01:36:56,401 --> 01:36:58,236
Fuck.
1788
01:37:01,365 --> 01:37:03,867
Everybody was for Sid...
I mean, Sid was like...
1789
01:37:03,909 --> 01:37:06,119
I don't know if you saw
any of the gigs,
1790
01:37:06,161 --> 01:37:09,056
but Sid was like,
really shining out.
1791
01:37:09,081 --> 01:37:11,917
And John was being
like, nothing.
1792
01:37:14,086 --> 01:37:16,963
The only people... the only
two people that I can think of...
1793
01:37:17,005 --> 01:37:20,008
that I would like
to play with...
1794
01:37:26,556 --> 01:37:28,600
Sid...?
1795
01:37:28,642 --> 01:37:30,477
Oh, my God...
1796
01:37:30,519 --> 01:37:35,357
I feel nothing but grief,
sorrow and sadness for Sid.
1797
01:37:35,399 --> 01:37:37,234
To the point, like,
1798
01:37:37,275 --> 01:37:39,528
if I really like, talk about it,
1799
01:37:39,569 --> 01:37:41,738
I just fucking burst out
in tears.
1800
01:37:41,780 --> 01:37:44,241
He was someone
I really cared for.
1801
01:37:44,282 --> 01:37:47,703
You see?
He's one of the Johns.
1802
01:37:47,744 --> 01:37:50,789
I care about every single one
of the Johns.
1803
01:37:50,831 --> 01:37:53,417
The gang of Johns
should have been the band.
1804
01:37:53,458 --> 01:37:56,461
- Wake up, Sid.
- Yeah, okay. I'm waking up.
1805
01:37:56,503 --> 01:37:58,213
Now what's the next question?
1806
01:37:58,255 --> 01:38:00,799
I can't be more
honest than that.
1807
01:38:00,841 --> 01:38:03,510
Don't drop it on me again.
1808
01:38:28,285 --> 01:38:31,471
Well, the room was...
very bloody.
1809
01:38:31,496 --> 01:38:34,307
There was blood on the sheets,
and blood on the mattress
1810
01:38:34,332 --> 01:38:37,085
there was tracks of blood
leading into the bathroom,
1811
01:38:37,127 --> 01:38:40,797
where the body of the female
was found lying under the sink.
1812
01:38:40,839 --> 01:38:43,175
She was stabbed in the stomach.
1813
01:38:49,681 --> 01:38:52,058
The whole thing lasted
no more than three minutes,
1814
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:54,478
and out they went.
Vicious made no attempt
1815
01:38:54,519 --> 01:38:56,855
to duck the cameras waiting
outside the courtroom,
1816
01:38:56,897 --> 01:39:00,108
but he refused to respond to any
of the reporters' questions,
1817
01:39:00,150 --> 01:39:02,611
and shoved persistent
microphones out of his path.
1818
01:39:02,652 --> 01:39:06,406
The grand jury will decide whether
or not to indict Vicious for murder.
1819
01:39:06,448 --> 01:39:10,202
If indicted, the case moves to the
Supreme Court for further action.
1820
01:39:10,243 --> 01:39:12,329
Vicious was ordered
to Ryker's Island.
1821
01:39:12,370 --> 01:39:14,706
If convicted of the stabbing
death of Miss Spungen,
1822
01:39:14,748 --> 01:39:17,417
Vicious faces 1 5 years
to life in prison.
1823
01:39:17,459 --> 01:39:20,003
# No fun... #
1824
01:39:20,045 --> 01:39:23,023
Are you having fun
at the moment?
1825
01:39:23,048 --> 01:39:24,758
Are you kidding?
1826
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,552
No, I'm not having fun at all.
1827
01:39:30,347 --> 01:39:32,432
Where would you like to be?
1828
01:39:33,725 --> 01:39:35,727
Under the ground.
1829
01:39:37,103 --> 01:39:38,814
Are you serious?
1830
01:39:38,855 --> 01:39:40,565
Oh, yeah.
1831
01:39:53,495 --> 01:39:56,164
I've lost my friend.
1832
01:39:56,206 --> 01:39:59,876
I couldn't have changed it.
I was too young.
1833
01:39:59,918 --> 01:40:02,462
God, I wish I was smarter.
1834
01:40:02,504 --> 01:40:05,590
You can look back on it, and go,
1835
01:40:05,632 --> 01:40:08,510
"l could have done
something."
1836
01:40:08,552 --> 01:40:11,638
He died, for fuck's sake.
1837
01:40:14,307 --> 01:40:18,687
They just turned it
into making money.
1838
01:40:18,728 --> 01:40:21,106
"Ha, ha, ha, ha..."
1839
01:40:21,147 --> 01:40:23,984
How hilarious for them.
1840
01:40:24,025 --> 01:40:25,861
Fucking cheek.
1841
01:40:25,902 --> 01:40:29,447
I'll hate them forever
for doing that.
1842
01:40:34,953 --> 01:40:39,374
You can't get more evil than that.
Can you, Julien? You know?
1843
01:40:42,002 --> 01:40:44,337
No respect.
1844
01:40:44,379 --> 01:40:47,173
Vicious... poor sod.
1845
01:40:53,305 --> 01:40:55,682
# No fun... #
1846
01:40:56,975 --> 01:40:59,019
# No fun! #
1847
01:40:59,060 --> 01:41:02,522
# No fun... no fun #
1848
01:41:02,564 --> 01:41:05,066
# No fun... #
1849
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,739
# No fun... my babe #
1850
01:41:10,780 --> 01:41:12,991
# No fun #
1851
01:41:14,784 --> 01:41:18,138
# Fun to be alone #
1852
01:41:18,163 --> 01:41:21,708
# Walkin' by myself #
1853
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:24,794
# Fun to be alone #
1854
01:41:24,836 --> 01:41:26,838
# In love... #
1855
01:41:27,839 --> 01:41:31,301
And I said, "You fucking
motherfucking faggot cowboys,
1856
01:41:31,343 --> 01:41:34,154
you can throw any fucking thing
in the world at us,
1857
01:41:34,179 --> 01:41:36,222
and you won't get us
off this stage."
1858
01:41:36,264 --> 01:41:39,309
# Maybe goin' out
maybe stay at home #
1859
01:41:39,351 --> 01:41:42,270
# Maybe call somebody
on the telephone #
1860
01:41:42,312 --> 01:41:44,522
# Come on #
1861
01:41:44,564 --> 01:41:46,650
# No fun #
1862
01:41:53,573 --> 01:41:55,992
We gave it fucking 200 percent
1863
01:41:56,034 --> 01:41:58,286
for, like two years,
and that was it.
1864
01:41:58,328 --> 01:41:59,829
I think we run out of steam.
1865
01:41:59,871 --> 01:42:01,957
You dirty fucker.
1866
01:42:01,998 --> 01:42:03,708
I loved being a Sex Pistol.
1867
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:06,127
I'll always be a Sex Pistol.
1868
01:42:06,169 --> 01:42:08,254
But at least, you know,
when I die
1869
01:42:08,296 --> 01:42:10,298
at least I can say
I've done something.
1870
01:42:10,340 --> 01:42:12,050
# No fun... #
1871
01:42:12,092 --> 01:42:15,345
Press the self-destruct button,
and start again.
1872
01:42:15,387 --> 01:42:17,097
Which is what it was all about.
1873
01:42:20,850 --> 01:42:22,535
# No fun... #
1874
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:27,232
So creating something
called the Sex Pistols
1875
01:42:27,273 --> 01:42:30,543
was my painting, my sculpture,
1876
01:42:30,568 --> 01:42:33,446
my little artful dodgers.
1877
01:42:34,572 --> 01:42:37,242
Are you still waffling, Malcolm?
1878
01:42:38,576 --> 01:42:40,286
The Sex Pistols ended
1879
01:42:40,328 --> 01:42:44,057
at exactly the right time
for all the wrong reasons,
1880
01:42:44,082 --> 01:42:47,419
but the wrong reasons
were continued,
1881
01:42:47,460 --> 01:42:50,964
and people continued
to perpetrate lies...
1882
01:42:51,006 --> 01:42:52,799
About a reality.
1883
01:42:58,847 --> 01:43:00,390
Ah, ha, ha...
1884
01:43:00,432 --> 01:43:03,243
Ever get the feeling
you've been cheated?
1885
01:43:03,268 --> 01:43:05,103
Goodnight.
1886
01:43:12,527 --> 01:43:14,487
We did what we had to do...
1887
01:43:14,529 --> 01:43:16,656
and that's why
we didn't survive.
1888
01:43:16,698 --> 01:43:19,909
Only the fakes survive.
1889
01:43:19,951 --> 01:43:22,996
All I want is for
future generations
1890
01:43:23,038 --> 01:43:26,041
to just go,
"Fuck it, I've had enough,
1891
01:43:26,082 --> 01:43:28,126
here's the truth."
1892
01:43:30,211 --> 01:43:32,605
Infamy, infamy!
1893
01:43:32,630 --> 01:43:34,966
They've all got it in for me.
1894
01:43:52,233 --> 01:43:56,696
# I'm on a submarine mission
for you, baby #
1895
01:43:56,738 --> 01:44:00,967
# I feel the way
you were goin' #
1896
01:44:00,992 --> 01:44:04,746
# Picked you up
on my TV screen #
1897
01:44:04,788 --> 01:44:08,666
# Feel your undercurrent
flowing #
1898
01:44:27,936 --> 01:44:31,831
# You've got me
pretty deep, baby #
1899
01:44:31,856 --> 01:44:35,860
# I can't figure out
your watery love #
1900
01:44:35,902 --> 01:44:39,739
# I gotta solve your mystery #
1901
01:44:39,781 --> 01:44:43,409
# You're sitting it out
in heaven above #
1902
01:44:43,451 --> 01:44:47,413
# Submission #
1903
01:44:47,455 --> 01:44:51,209
# Goin' down, down
draggin' me down #
1904
01:44:51,251 --> 01:44:55,255
# Submission #
1905
01:44:55,296 --> 01:44:59,968
# I can't tell ya
what I've found #
1906
01:45:04,097 --> 01:45:06,641
# The mystery #
1907
01:45:08,393 --> 01:45:11,020
# Under the water #
1908
01:45:14,065 --> 01:45:17,235
# In the sea #
1909
01:45:37,380 --> 01:45:41,259
# Submission #
1910
01:45:41,301 --> 01:45:45,263
# Goin' down, down
draggin' me down #
1911
01:45:45,305 --> 01:45:48,933
# Submission #
1912
01:45:48,975 --> 01:45:53,104
I wanna drown...
# I can't tell ya what I've found #
1913
01:45:58,568 --> 01:46:01,696
# In the water #
1914
01:46:04,365 --> 01:46:07,535
# In the sea #
1915
01:46:16,169 --> 01:46:20,798
# A submarine mission
for you, baby #
1916
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,552
# Feel the way you were goin' #
1917
01:46:24,594 --> 01:46:28,640
# Picked you up
on my TV screen #
1918
01:46:28,681 --> 01:46:32,268
# Feel your undercurrent
flowing #
1919
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:35,939
# Submission #
1920
01:46:35,980 --> 01:46:40,068
# I'm goin down, down
draggin' me down #
1921
01:46:40,109 --> 01:46:44,072
# Submission #
1922
01:46:44,113 --> 01:46:48,284
# I can't tell ya
what I've found #
1923
01:46:59,170 --> 01:47:05,260
# Sub - miss - ion #
1924
01:47:11,015 --> 01:47:15,728
# Sub - miss - ion #
1925
01:47:18,773 --> 01:47:24,070
# Sub - miss - ion #
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