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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,674 Someone came up to me and said, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,676 "When you fell through the bar, was it an accident?" 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,672 "Did you mean to do it?" 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,834 There are hundreds of feet of film of us just laughing — 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,991 trying to get the dialogue out. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,633 Ray said, "This chandelier we are about to drop cost £6,000, 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,350 "and if you laugh, I'LL fire you." 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,113 (DIRTY LAUGH) 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,400 I think I can sum up the formula for its success in four words — 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,551 John Sullivan, John Sullivan. 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,715 (DAVID JASON) From this very, very quiet, ordinary guy 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,190 comes this amazing comedy. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 He's had no formal education. 14 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:53,471 To produce out of his head what he produces... 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,554 it does make you think it's a bit spooky. 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,350 # My name is Ginger, I'm getting so much stick 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,115 # 'Cause of my banger 1 need to get rid of it 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,796 # If you's a drinker, then get drunk I insist 19 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:12,476 # If you's a raver then please bubble to this... # 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,836 My father was a very funny man. 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,277 The whole family were great comedians. 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Very Irish — a mixture of Irish and English. 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,077 My father's family come from Cork, my mother's from Kent. 24 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,915 Every Christmas and birthday was hilarious. 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,550 The street I lived in was full of characters. 26 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,714 Anywhere you go in the country — Newcastle, Liverpool — 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,679 when you get these ghetto—type streets, 28 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,549 you do get these wonderful characters and incidents. 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,509 You don't realise how colourful they are ill you move out. 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,479 and realise the rest of the city's boring. 31 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,109 So I had the comedy all around me. 32 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,400 As a kid, coming down Monday morning to go to school... 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,076 and the living room's filled with a fog of cigarette smoke 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,993 and six men playing poker. 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,994 They'd been playing since Sunday night all night. 36 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,199 My dad was this great gambling man. 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,196 It wasn't anything that shocked you. That was life. 38 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,112 How many? 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,789 Un, deux, trois, quatre. 40 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,350 Four?! 41 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,515 1 had a very good teacher — Jim Trowers. Brilliant man. 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,390 He excelled at understanding — understanding the characters. 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,791 In particular, I taught them Dickens. 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,351 1 taught the characters by acting them. 45 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,875 For example, I would use an accent — 46 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,750 "Barkis be willing, my lad!" — which they enjoyed. 47 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,799 He was a good enough teacher 48 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,590 to understand all these difficult sentences 49 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,593 and then explain what the man was saying, 50 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,230 so you could get into the flow of Charles Dickens. 51 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,835 And he was a very funny writer. 52 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,640 Not many people realise how funny he is. 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,791 1 fell in love with his work 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,511 because he was the first serious classic writer 55 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,150 who wrote about an area I knew — a London I understood. 56 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,994 He also wrote about poverty. 57 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,515 1 enjoyed writing at school 58 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,560 We used to do these compositions — not essays — 59 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,711 and I used to do well at them. 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,633 A little while after I met him, 61 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,997 I gave him an essay to write — 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,470 I gave the whole class an essay — 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,235 and it was one of those usual things that a teacher does. 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,074 I said, "You have the Epsom races. 65 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,835 "Write me a short piece from any aspect at all 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,277 "Perhaps a bookie or someone laying a bet." 67 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,717 And they all did this, except John Sullivan. 68 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,113 He wrote it as though he were one of the horses in the race, 69 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:22,271 which I found fascinating. 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,876 It showed incredible inventiveness at the time. 71 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,398 English, history and football, basically, 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,757 were the only things I liked at school. 73 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,311 Other than that, I hated every minute of it. 74 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,270 So I had that love of writing even then. 75 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,590 When I left, I took that with me. 76 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,917 1 think I really wanted to get out from this slum area 77 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,152 and move somewhere nice — I wanted money... 78 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,471 which everyone else did. 79 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,474 That's why I tried the car trade — there was money in that — 80 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,677 but I wasn't tough enough. 81 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:07,198 Then, I remember one night...'62, "63... 82 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,797 watching the BBC Comedy Playhouse. 83 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,070 And there was one called "The Offer" by Galton and Simpson, 84 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,390 which was "Steptoe and Son". 85 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,430 I watched that and I realised what you can do with comedy. 86 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,389 It was so funny and filled with drama and pathos. 87 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,032 So you've made up your mind, have you? 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,909 Yes, I have! I've got a full life in front of me. 89 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,233 I could have been a company director, but you held me back! 90 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,711 You and that rotten horse and cart keeping me back. 91 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,998 But I'm going to strike out on me own 92 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,390 and you ain't gonna stop me. 93 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,234 Believe me, Harold Steptoe's going up! 94 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,960 1 thought, "That's what I want to do." 95 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,432 For the past two weeks, I've been taking stock of my Life. 96 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,991 Who I am, what I am, and where I'm going. 97 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,597 That's taken you a fortnight?! 98 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,311 I could have answered all them during a commercial break! 99 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,915 What I'm trying to say is... 100 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,678 I'm thinking of breaking up the partnership. 101 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,276 What partnership? 102 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,752 In '67, I worked in a brewery and met a friend from school — 103 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,911 a guy called Paul Saunders — 104 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,074 who was a great comedian, a very clever guy. 105 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,993 He was the one who suggested that we write a script, 106 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,237 which we did, and it got turned down. 107 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,309 He kind of lost interest immediately we'd been rejected, 108 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,917 but I loved it, I so enjoyed the process of inventing characters 109 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,117 and writing the dialogue 110 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,750 that it just became, basically, a hobby. 111 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,992 It kept me off the streets 112 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,391 and I didn't spend too much money on beer 113 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,393 because I was writing every evening. 114 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:16,112 I suppose the dream was I still hoped to get into this business. 115 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,633 1 sent in these ideas to the BBC over maybe ten years. 116 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,033 Sometimes I'd change the titles or my name to try to fool them, 117 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,840 but they realised they were crap. 118 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,516 And you'd just get reject notes come back. 119 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,833 So I thought, "I'll have to get a job in the business." 120 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,992 1 wrote to the BBC, and they came back 121 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,678 and said, "You've got a job, but don't annoy the stars." 122 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,157 1 started off working on props 123 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,517 and then I did dressing the actual sets. 124 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,911 Then I did scene shifting, building sets. 125 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,960 I worked on the Morecambe and Wise "Singing In The Rain" one. 126 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,114 I actually put down all the waterproofing 127 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,590 and the kerbstones. 128 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,152 One Sunday, we were sitting having lunch in the BBC Club, 129 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,679 and my foreman said, "You know who that is?" about this guy. 130 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,639 I said, "No." He said, "Dennis Main Wilson." 131 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,314 He did "Till Death Us Do Part", "The Goons" 132 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,278 and "Hancock's Half Hour." 133 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,431 Hancock's Half Hour. 134 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,355 It was the first time I had a target to go to. 135 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,720 Eventually, I plucked up the courage to go and talk to him. 136 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,430 "f thought I'd introduce myself. I'm john Sullivan. 137 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,069 "We're going to be working together." 138 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,551 He said, "What on?" 1 said, "I haven't written it." 139 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,031 And he just laughed and said, "Let's have a drink." 140 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,239 Great guy. Of all the people I could have seen, he was perfect. 141 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,837 1 went to see Ronnie Barker on the "Porridge" set. 142 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,039 I said, "Do you read sketches by anyone?" He said, "Yeah." 143 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,512 This time, I did actually have a couple of sketches. 144 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,796 And he gave me a contract. 145 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,989 1 worked on the Ronnies for five seasons, I think. 146 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,549 I've never had a racing pigeon before. 147 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,633 You bought a racing pigeon? 148 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,599 But you're illogical to feathers. 149 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,311 — But this one was going cheap. — All birds go cheep! 150 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,391 In the meantime, 151 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,951 Dennis Main Wilson had read the "Smith" script. 152 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,069 Dennis Main Wilson walked into my office and he said, 153 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,073 "I've just seen the most fantastic script 154 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,949 "from a new guy who's working as a scene shifter here. 155 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,159 "I'm not going to go on about it, just read it." 156 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,075 So 1 read it and it was instant with me too. 157 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,870 You were just so relieved and pleased 158 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,670 to have a script that didn't need any work on it 159 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,956 It was ready for production. 160 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,636 The structure was right, the characters were right. 161 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,155 It was beautifully worked out, 162 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,153 very funny, the settings were original 163 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:17,832 Power to the people! 164 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,196 (BABY CRIES) 165 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:24,836 And that's how I really started. 166 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,719 First, by taking scripts home. 167 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,678 Learning the layout. 168 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,959 1 never had any idea how to lay a script out. 169 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,000 What I didn't realise was that these were camera scripts, 170 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,074 so you'd have lines there such as... 171 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,032 "Fletcher reacts" in "Porridge". 172 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,194 In the original script, you'd have put what the reaction was. 173 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,079 1 used to write my scripts — 174 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,835 the first ones I did — "Rodney reacts." 175 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,119 He still writes that. "Rod reacts." 176 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,958 You go up to him and say, "Do you want...? 177 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,754 "What reaction do you want?" 178 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,993 He says, "I don't know. You do the faces. I'll do the writing." 179 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,310 It took me four years to realise 180 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,074 that I should be telling them what to do. 181 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,078 That Sidney Potter's a good actor, in't he, Rodney? 182 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,392 He was marvellous in "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner". 183 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:29,790 Yeah. Knockout, Grandad. 184 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,999 Sidney Potter? 185 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,349 So "Smith" had finished and I had no work. I had nothing... 186 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,150 I was out in the real pubs — the south London pubs — 187 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,834 but you weren't seeing that in comedies. 188 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,197 It was still an old-fashioned London. 189 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,593 There were no black people, except in the background. 190 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,116 There was so much new stuff out there 191 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,672 and I just wanted to try and bring in the real characters 192 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,232 that were out there in the pubs and streets now, at this time. 193 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,874 We met in my local pub in North End Road, 194 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,031 and we chatted and chatted. 195 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,192 At that time, in the press, 196 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,070 one headline was the "black economy" and we discussed that. 197 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,153 We got on well. We come from a similar background. 198 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,311 He's east London, I'm south. 199 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,790 We both worked in markets. 200 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,511 His parents, I think, had a stall in the Roman Road 201 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,433 and I used to work in Hill Street Market. 202 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,991 So we'd always talk about markets a lof, 203 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,552 and we realised nobody had ever done a market comedy. 204 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,270 He asked me, "Who was your favourite market character?" 205 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,911 It was the fly pitcher, because they had to be comedians. 206 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,039 (PITCHER) These slips will not cling to your knickers. 207 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,556 I can't promise you I won't, but these slips... 208 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,872 They always had a younger lookout. 209 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:08,070 The young guy used to be the target for most of the gags. 210 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,189 See how stylish it is as modelled by my brother Rodney. 211 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,836 (LAUGHTER) 212 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,550 They must be related. Nobody else would stand it. 213 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,631 Cousins or something. 214 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,156 ..And quilted in natural nylon. 215 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,712 This jacket would set you back about £120 at Lilywhites, 216 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,271 but this can be yours for a mere £35 217 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,431 and it comes in all sizes. 218 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,274 All this equipment is manufactured 219 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,751 by a country that leads the world in Alpine clothing — 220 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,593 namely Fiji. 221 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,597 Just a moment. This is probably the Austria Olympic squad 222 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,434 wanting to increase their order. Hello? 223 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,036 Trotters Independent Traders, Arctic Clothing. 224 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,191 All right, Dave? 225 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,315 Ray said, "Why don't you put it forward?" 226 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,040 "Readies", it was called then. 227 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,191 "Have another go with that." 228 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,637 1 went and saw jimmy Gilbert and he just agreed. 229 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,829 And instead of saying, "Do a pilot," he gave me the series. 230 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,230 I don't know if that was out of pity — 231 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,596 he's a nice man and I was in trouble — 232 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,630 or because "Minder" had started about seven months before 233 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,474 and that had gone down very well. 234 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,314 When you start reading a new script, 235 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,632 you can tell in three pages if it's going to work. 236 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,237 It doesn't matter who's in it or who's working on it, 237 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,916 if you ain't got the script, you ain't got the show. 238 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,358 That's why "Fools and Horses" has worked — a great script. 239 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,716 It was a good real situation, 240 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,874 and there were at least three good gags on every page. 241 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,998 Some shows have one good gag every three pages. 242 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,152 Chinese, Japanese, it's all the same to me. 243 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,234 If you go for a job interview, what are you going to say? 244 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,199 "I've got qualifications and experience. 245 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,352 "Two GCEs, an 18—month suspended sentence 246 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,558 "and I know a good joint when I puff one"? 247 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,873 Your feet won't touch, bruv. 248 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,554 No. I'm afraid not, Rodney. 249 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,350 At the ripe old age of 23, you are a social leper. 250 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,393 Society's put you in the darkest corner of its deepest cellar 251 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,871 to grow moss and be forgotten about. 252 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,952 Never mind, eh? Vive La France. No need to get depressed. 253 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:47,638 The essence of comedy is that the basis has to be truthful. 254 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,189 It's got to be believable. 255 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,069 Once you've got a good thread running that's believable, 256 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,754 you can bend it and take liberties. 257 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,039 The family, in Derek Trotter's eyes, 258 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,316 is the number one thing. 259 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:09,795 If you watch the series, you may not believe that sometimes! 260 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,474 — Stay out of this, Albert! - Oi! 261 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,870 Don't talk to a war hero like that! 262 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,190 He's getting on me bloody nerves! 263 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,113 It's your own fault, Rodney. 264 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,309 You had a lovely wife, lovely flat, good job and you blew it! 265 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,472 He shouts at them and tells them off. 266 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,439 The way he treats Grandad and Uncle Albert. 267 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,035 There you are, you mucky old sod! 268 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,999 Have you seen the state of my Persian rug? 269 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,754 You run the I Edgar over it. 270 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,072 You should see it. Give me a Manhattan, Mike. 271 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,231 Small rum for him. Spit in it. 272 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:51,078 But deep down it's born out of love — family bond. 273 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,880 I think this is where john got it from. 274 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,593 (JOHN) I came from a strong family 275 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,276 and I wanted to put them in a strong family. 276 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,434 There was a big age gap between my sister and I — 1 years. 277 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,912 and in the street where I lived, this was quite common 278 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,071 because of the war. 279 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,516 People had children prior to the war 280 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,671 and couldn't afford any more. 281 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,071 But six years of war, then the men come home 282 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,880 and there's a baby boom. 283 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,511 So you had lots of brothers with ten years, 12 years... 284 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,560 difference in their age, and no one had ever used it. 285 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,918 I began to think back to the street. 286 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,630 I don't think it's just an Irish thing. I know... 287 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,680 The mothers who'd passed on were almost sainted, 288 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,629 You expected to find a shrine to them. 289 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,874 Men used to cry over their mothers, who'd died 20 years ago. 290 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Our mum was a wonderful woman. 291 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,871 She had long golden—blonde hair... 292 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,478 sometimes. 293 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,640 She'd be sitting at the bar at the Nag's Head 294 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,589 in her simulated beaverskin with her rum and pep in one hand. 295 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,391 20 Senior Service in the other. 296 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,519 1 thought that was an interesting area I could use. 297 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,469 The mother, even though we never meet her, is so important — 298 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,076 so powerful in the set—up of this family. 299 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,756 I remember what Mum said on her deathbed. 300 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,592 She said to me... "Del?" she said. 301 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,072 "Please give little Rodney all the encouragement you can. 302 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,074 "Never, Del... Never hold him back." 303 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,879 She'd didn't "alf say a lot on her deathbed. 304 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,992 My grandfather, Tom, with a drink inside him, 305 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,879 was a bit handy with my nan. 306 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,953 If your mother was alive, I'd kill her! 307 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:04,795 When my dad got to a certain age, he beat his father up. 308 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,430 My grandfather left home and I never saw him again. 309 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,876 So I brought that in as well 310 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,031 My dad went potty. 311 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,113 He was shouting at Del, calling him names. 312 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,875 Del's ducking round the room, trying to escape. 313 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,318 Then it all turned violent 'cause he'd been out drinking. 314 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,071 He took his belt off, started whacking him, punching him. 315 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,957 That's what he was like. 316 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:38,591 My mum was screaming, "Don't hit him!" and I was crying. 317 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,639 God. Poor Rodney. 318 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,958 — Was he hurt? — Not too bad. 319 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,350 He was in hospital for a few days. 320 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,716 Me mum took me to visit him. 321 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,951 What happened to your father? 322 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,951 I'm talking about me father. 323 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,350 I thought you meant Del! 324 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,757 When I was in the car trade, about 16, 325 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,629 working for a successful car trader with a couple of sites, 326 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,155 some properties in London. 327 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,392 And he used to say these Latin phrases 328 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,552 and strange phrases we never understood. 329 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,076 There was a total lack of communication with him. 330 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,074 He'd ask you to do something but you never understood him. 331 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,675 Mon Dieu! Mon Dieu! 332 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,559 Ah, oui. Je t'aime. Je t'adore... 333 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,678 Sur la pont d'Avignon. 334 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,232 It was all to impress, to make himself important. 335 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,199 I took that side of things for Del. 336 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,351 Apres moi, love the luge. 337 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,397 Oh, a la bruchette! 338 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:49,238 They're the things I brought with me into "Fools and Horses". 339 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,756 1 ended up with this dysfunctional family. 340 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,752 No mother, no father. 341 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,829 That's why I got the three—wheeled van — 342 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,551 I wanted something missing in every aspect of their life. 343 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,678 1 had intended later on to change it, 344 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,277 but everyone fell in love with this yellow van and I couldn't. 345 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,479 So I made them a two—car family with a horrible green Capri, 346 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,792 The Capris nice — it's a real piece of crap. 347 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,510 1 thought, "The van's going to be there forever. " 348 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,876 1 always try to paint a picture. 349 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,477 I remember the first episode of "Fools and Horses" 350 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,031 describing the clash of the curtains 351 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,396 with the wallpaper and the carpet. 352 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,030 1 said it should look like the start of a bad trip. 353 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,840 That's how I described it to the designer. 354 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,551 1 described what's in the boxes in the background. 355 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,917 Everything... With these kind of people, 356 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,994 you can buy almost anything off them — these traders. 357 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:00,234 If you say, "I love that table." "Yours for a fiver. Take it." 358 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,357 That's how it was. 359 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,399 If you can make some money on it, sell it. 360 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,437 Everything is for sale. 361 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,833 When we started off, we usually had a running gag 362 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,710 that every week this room would be full of hooky gear 363 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,235 that they'd knocked off that week. 364 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,474 It was always broken — dodgy telephones and dartboards. 365 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,157 We tried to change it. We used to change the table every week. 366 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,200 One week a bit of teak, then it'd be a garden table. 367 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,512 It was just a throwaway gag 368 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,150 to show they were wheelers and dealers. 369 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,551 — What's the weather like out? - It's parky, Del. 370 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,438 Good, good. 371 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:49,476 — Nice thick frost? — Bit slippery underfoot, yeah. 372 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,110 Triffic. Lots of flecks of snow in the air, is there? 373 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,113 - Yeah, a bit of sleet. — Oh, cushty. 374 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,558 Nice northerly wind howling in from the Urals, is there? 375 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,155 h you. ight throug me " Lovely. 376 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,713 Because today, owing to young Rodney's foresight and GCEs... 377 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,237 while the other plonkers in the market are selling woolly hats, 378 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,394 we're going to make a right killing. Do you know why? 379 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,470 We haven't got woolly underwear, 380 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,393 we've got suntan lotion. 381 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,915 The first thing is get the right script. 382 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,594 The second thing is get the right cast. 383 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,071 The first person we cast, the first lead actor, 384 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,039 was Rodney — the dipstick, the plonker. 385 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,999 Beautifully played by Nicholas Lyndhurst. 386 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,439 He was 19 years old at the time, but such a mature, superb actor. 387 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,640 You little plonker! 388 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,594 That was John Sullivan. 389 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,993 He'd seen him in "Butterflies". He looked perfect. 390 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,597 Next problem was, apart from finding a lead... 391 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,717 ..was to find a Grandad. 392 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,919 Lennard Pearce seemed to fit the part beautifully, 393 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,549 so I put him on stand by. 394 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,351 When casting a three—hander, you cast them one at a time, 395 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,993 but have to see them together. So my next problem was the lead. 396 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,791 A schedule had been set and we were approaching filming. 397 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,759 A date for filming and we hadn't got a lead. 398 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,116 The two guys we wanted first — 399 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,989 one had turned down, the other one wasn't available. 400 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,595 I was at home on a Sunday night, 401 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,390 and they were doing a re-run of "Open All Hours". 402 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,120 And I saw David jason... 403 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,750 doing a virtuoso piece in the back storeroom. 404 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,670 Beefy chunks in gravy. 405 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,673 And I said, "That's Del Boy." 406 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,549 1 rang john and said, "/ think David will be good." 407 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,430 When I read "Only Fools and Horses" for the first time, 408 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,319 I saw this character, Derek Trotter, 409 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,714 that was an amazing, amazing go—getter, a winner. 410 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,191 Your average tourist gets fed up of the same places — 411 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:57,752 the Houses of Parliament, Buck House, the National Gallery. 412 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,629 Once you've seen one Rubens, you've seen them all 413 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,918 This is where a dynamic person like me steps in. 414 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,152 — Wake up. I'm being dynamic. — Sorry. Go on. 415 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,994 Although he was, in fact, a loser. 416 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,791 But a really brash, upfront character. 417 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,749 But the writing was so good 418 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,311 and the character, I thought, was so different. 419 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,994 1 thought, "I've got to play this." 420 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,958 Ethnic London. 421 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,157 - Ethnic London? - Yeah. 422 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,871 All those romantic places you've only heard about in fairy tales. 423 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,237 The Lee Valley Viaduct. Eh? 424 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,117 The glow of lower Edmonton at dusk. 425 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,432 The excitement of a walkabout in Croydon. 426 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,551 Look what I've had printed. 427 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,793 I don't believe this. "Trotters Ethnic Tours"? 428 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,078 I didn't know there was at that time... 429 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,791 a number of people who were against casting me 430 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,951 as the lead role. 431 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:10,069 And one of them was, in fact, John Sullivan himself! 432 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,110 Which he openly admits. Bless him! 433 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,309 My concern with David was I'd never seen him play a tough man. 434 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Ray assured me — Ray knew him, knew David well — 435 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,115 and he said he could do that. 436 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,433 You couldn't bring David Jason in to audition. 437 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,672 You either offered him the part or not. 438 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,277 I came into the office the next day and told my guv'nor 439 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,638 that I'd like to approach David, and he didn't like the idea. 440 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,838 (DAVID) Some people were against casting me 441 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,233 because I'd never played a lead role or carried a series. 442 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,835 With Ray Butt's conviction 443 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,039 that I was an actor whose talents had not been explored, 444 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,354 he pushed for me and that finally swayed the vote. 445 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,115 When I was an electrician, I worked in the East End, 446 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,831 and I worked for a company called Derek Hockley, 447 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,958 who used to do a lot of work for breweries. 448 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,159 This man dressed like a lord and spoke like a fishmonger, 449 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,470 but he was a charming man, 450 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,873 and I couldn't get him out of my mind when I was reading it, 451 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,271 and thought this was an interesting way to go. 452 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,590 A la mode. A la mode. 453 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,754 The character of Rodney I did draw quite heavily on... 454 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,910 I had a friend years ago and he had a younger brother. 455 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,071 — Give him a bell - Who? 456 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,279 This young boy was always trying to be older than his years. 457 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,276 Trying to be cool. He never knew what to do with his hands. 458 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,752 He'd never stop moving, and the more he'd try to look relaxed, 459 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,231 the more awkward and gawky he became. 460 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,596 So / borrowed a bit of that. 461 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,195 And I'm six foot plus, 462 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,797 so it's quite easy to accentuate any awkward gawkiness 463 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,600 that you can get into a character. 464 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,515 1 suppose the first two or three days of filming, 465 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,277 1 realised that David was a very dynamic performer. 466 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,829 The only date you would have got with her was 10 o'clock... 467 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,072 He's always doing something on set. 468 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,312 He's always pouring a drink or something. 469 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,357 That's what people do. 470 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,909 And he often used to tease me. 471 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,313 He'd say, "Why don't you get off your arse and come and help me? 472 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040 "That's real life." 473 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,273 And I'd say, "I'll just sit here because that's real life too. 474 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,513 "We can't both bounce off the set. The camera can't follow us, 475 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,398 "so I'll sit here." 476 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,033 1 think it's worked with my character being more lugubrious 477 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,113 and just sitting there reading the papers. 478 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,719 Del's character is the hustler, he's the get up and goer, 479 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,158 whereas Rodney is happy to be carried along with things. 480 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,790 He'll be the first to say, "I told you that would happen." 481 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,429 But he's quite happy to sit there. 482 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,870 (LOUD BANG) 483 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,271 (DAVID JASON) It's very Laurel and Hardy in my mind. 484 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:34,595 Laurel and Hardy is an unknowing fool and a knowing fool 485 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,400 I told you not to make that last payment. 486 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,633 I think that the qualities you have in "Fools and Horses" 487 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,792 can be very similar to that. 488 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,397 All of the characters are fools. Rodney is a fool 489 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,039 Del! 490 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,112 Derek can be a fool. 491 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,236 And Uncle Albert or Grandad are always fools. 492 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,471 Time for your wash. 493 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,319 Not you! 494 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,917 Rodney and Del's characters seem pretty well planted 495 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,311 with the actors who play them — David and Nicky. 496 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,472 Trigger was a hard character to come to 497 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,632 because how do you make somebody believable 498 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,838 who makes such ridiculous comments 499 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,833 and has stupid responses to things? 500 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,389 I had a relationship break up. 501 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,631 She worked at my council depot. 502 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,952 — A lady roadsweeper? - No. She was management. 503 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,875 A high—flyer. You had to go to her if you wanted a new broom. 504 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,794 His way of getting accepted by people 505 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,954 was to agree to everything or to suggest himself... 506 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,272 suggest something that might be wrong to keep... 507 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,434 He would always get it wrong, but from his point of view. 508 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,753 I always played him as if it was everybody else who was wrong. 509 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,719 He had insight into things. 510 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,558 Anyway, she'd heard about this hotel near Henley—on—Thames, 511 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,350 and she said, "How about spending a weekend there?" 512 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,990 - Yeah? — what? 513 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,959 — What happened? — Was it a nice weekend? 514 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,432 Yeah. I thought it was, but she didn't want to see me after it. 515 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040 I don't like to pry, Trig, but... 516 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,919 No, no. It's a bit personal. 517 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,959 Hang on, Bronco. Trig, what happened? 518 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,991 She got jealous. 519 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,677 I heard later, through friends, that she wanted to go with me. 520 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,957 I've used aspects of myself that I can find. 521 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,317 I've used a sort of dumb insolence 522 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,110 that I used to use with my dad when I was in trouble, 523 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,193 and I've found it quite helpful... 524 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,115 over the years generally, actually! 525 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,271 So I pulled that out. 526 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:11,675 So I've used aspects of myself to inform Trigger of Life. 527 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,160 Duke! 528 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,789 The basis of the character of Boycie 529 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,555 was I knew this guy in the 70s in a pub who fascinated me. 530 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,839 He was an extraordinary lonely—type character — 531 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,312 someone who knew a little bit about practically everything. 532 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,519 He used to stop the conversation and stop the drinking in the pub 533 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,833 by pontificating about all sorts of different things. 534 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,880 This is a high—tech investment in my video leisure company. 535 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,510 This thing can pick up the whole of Scandinavia. 536 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,032 I can therefore record films of the more adult variety 537 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,158 and show them to my more discerning clients. 538 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,711 - You mean perverts? - If you must be medical, yes. 539 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,191 1 had an inkling, when I came to do "Fools and Horses", 540 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,637 that Boycie might have similar characteristics. 541 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,877 The laugh has become enormous — people keep wanting me to do it. 542 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,795 It's useful at charity things because people pay to hear it. 543 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,396 (LOUD CACKLE) 544 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,190 I don't know how it happened. It just sort of happened 545 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,354 and everybody laughed at me laughing, which is gratifying. 546 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,716 John Sullivan seemed to like it. 547 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,273 The next script I was in said, "Boycie does one of his laughs." 548 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,829 I couldn't remember what I'd done. 549 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,598 So we had to go back and replay the episode where I'd laughed. 550 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,274 "Oh, it's that one." So I did it. 551 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,795 It's actually quite difficult. 552 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,591 Somebody will say, "Do your laugh" and pay some money, 553 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,558 so I'll go... 554 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,029 (DIRTY LAUGH) 555 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,794 And that's enough. Was that enough? 556 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,113 As soon as you had Boycie, you'd say, "Remember Marlene?" 557 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,749 And all the boys remembered Marlene. 558 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,311 - Hello, Marlene, my love. - Hello, sweetheart. 559 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,551 — Wha—hey! — Ooh! 560 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,509 John wanted no one to see her because everybody had a picture 561 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,990 of the dreadful Marlene! 562 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,916 It was really because of the dog that I got my first episode. 563 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,551 She had huge fuzzy hair, far too much make-up, 564 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,839 very high heels, tight little dress, huge fur coat. 565 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,833 As 1 read it, I heard her voice. 566 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,799 Don't worry, he's house—trained. 567 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,190 Wwe live in a flat. 568 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,354 She just was me. She was the tart in me. 569 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,034 It was terribly releasing to play. 570 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,479 It's bliss. And you flirt with anything that moves. It's fun. 571 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,836 Come on. Kiss him goodbye. 572 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,559 Bye, Dell. 573 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,111 For Gawd's sake, the dog, Marlene! 574 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,035 As far as I knew, that was the end of my life as Marlene. 575 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,513 Which was sad because it had been an amazingly jolly morning. 576 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,629 The script was hysterical, the people welcomed me, 577 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,475 and I wanted to go on doing it forever, but I waved goodbye. 578 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,840 A fortnight later, Sullivan rang and said they'd loved the scene 579 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,630 and said, "I've got some ideas for some more storylines." 580 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,791 I'm so sorry. 581 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,158 It's OK. It's an easy mistake to make. This one's yours. 582 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,314 - How do you know it's mine? — It's got your name in it. 583 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,836 The Raquel—Cassandra side, bringing those girls in, 584 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,879 was such a potentially dangerous thing to do. 585 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,479 The audience might not accept their "lads" being family men. 586 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,510 What appealed to me about her was that she was her own woman. 587 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,240 Very independent, doing her own thing. 588 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,678 I was surprised they'd written a girlfriend for Rodney like that. 589 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,756 In the past, his girlfriends weren't really of that ilk. 590 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,992 Something smells good. I'm starving. 591 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,278 I did myself one of those ready-made meals. 592 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,592 Oh. well, I'm starving. 593 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,310 I didn't know I'd be marrying into the Trotter family. 594 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,632 I thought I was just coming in for one episode. 595 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,919 I didn't know it would continue. It was lovely as it evolved. 596 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,720 It was funny to have a name change 597 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,078 when you'd only had the name for about a week! One series. 598 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:53,518 Which was great. To become a Trotter — what an honour! 599 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,956 There's plenty in the freezer. 600 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,599 Good. 601 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,270 — What a clean oven we've got. - Sorry? 602 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,274 I was just remarking how clean one can keep these ovens. 603 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,831 Especially when one never bloody cooks in them. 604 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,669 — Are you going out? - Yeah. 605 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,116 That'll make a nice change. 606 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,750 What is it tonight? The bank's final exams? 607 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,958 The bank's annual cheese and wine orgy? 608 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,476 The bank's annual yoga and target practice course? 609 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,713 - I'm playing badminton. — Oh, I see. Where? 610 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,315 The bank's sports club. 611 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,236 By introducing both Cassandra for Rodney's character 612 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,870 and Raquel for Derek, I think John broadened it. 613 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,795 He thought, "We'll try and extend that family 614 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,236 "and see whether it can take that, 615 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,392 "and see how it will affect the two men." 616 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,358 Is it Derek? 617 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,031 — Raquel? - Yes. 618 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,669 - Hi. - Hello. Hello. 619 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,909 Oh, sorry. These are for you. 620 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,674 Are they? You shouldn't have gone to all this expense. 621 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,116 Mais oui. Mais oui. 622 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,598 I've booked a table at my most favourite restaurant. 623 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,320 — Sounds lovely. — Right. 624 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,797 - Your carriage awaits. - Thank you. 625 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,360 This is a bit like "Brief Encounter". 626 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,037 - Do you reckon? — That's my favourite film. 627 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,909 Oh, yeah, and it's mine. 628 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,310 — Really? - Yeah. 629 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,519 My favourite bit is when the big spaceship comes down 630 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,671 and the Martians come out. 631 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,595 It was interesting to play her from that early time 632 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,991 with her as quite a naive, vulnerable person, 633 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,913 to becoming more streetwise. 634 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,833 That was an interesting journey for her. 635 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,389 Eat your breakfast, Del. 636 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,393 You said fried stuff was bad for me veins. 637 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,709 Eat your breakfast, Del. 638 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,394 I really loved Raquel 639 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,269 She was trying to make a go of her career of acting, 640 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,910 she'd had a failed marriage, she was very vulnerable, 641 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,199 she'd gone to an agency because she didn't have much confidence 642 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,510 but she wanted a boyfriend, 643 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,389 and met this extraordinary man who was also scared. 644 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,597 He was these other things — 645 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,072 a confident man who had so much to offer. 646 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,834 I think the development of how they met 647 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,470 and their early days was so interesting. 648 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,156 Both those characters were so truthful and real, 649 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,757 and both so in love with the boys, despite everything, 650 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,480 that it's been a glorious addition to the show. 651 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,399 "Only Fools and Horses" started in 1981 652 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,836 and met with modest success. 653 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,037 When we started it, we... 654 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,273 Series One, I think, was watched by myself, David 655 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,434 and my Auntie Peggy in Chessington. No one else saw it. 656 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,799 We were getting less than half of the normal viewers 657 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,997 that shows were getting then. 658 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,758 A comedy should expect to reach 10-12 million to be a success. 659 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,514 1 think "Only Fools" got seven. 660 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,469 It was one of those many comedies that started 661 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,395 and had a question mark over whether it would continue. 662 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,110 The BBC, although they never said anything, 663 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,590 quite obviously didn't like it. 664 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,435 I remember David Jason phoning me and saying 665 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,470 that he had just been in to the BBC main foyer 666 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,429 and they had pictures of all their forthcoming comedies, 667 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,594 but no "Fools and Horses" — it was the only one missing. 668 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,674 1 arranged to meet David, and we went to see the Head of Comedy. 669 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,789 He said, "There is a picture. It's on the sixth floor." 670 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,793 He took us up to show us this picture. 671 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,431 1 think it was on the wall of Michael Checkland's bog. 672 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,632 John Howard Davis invited me to his office 673 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,791 to talk about the future. 674 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,954 He said, "You don't want to make any more of them, do you?" 675 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,112 I said, "Actually, I do. We all enjoyed it." 676 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,590 We had great faith in it. 677 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,230 And the BBC always give you a second go. 678 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,110 So we did the second one, which I thought was better. 679 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,229 But that had the same reaction. The figures were very bad. 680 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,710 Then there was a great silence. 681 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,635 I couldn't get a reply to my calls or anything. 682 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,715 And I remember we were going away on holiday, my family, 683 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,076 to a caravan in Hastings. 684 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:11,837 Before we left, they started repeating "Fools and Horses". 685 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,153 One day I bought a Daily Mirror and I sat reading it, 686 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,755 and they used to give you the top TV. 687 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,719 There's "Fools and Horses" at number five. 688 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,871 The repeats had taken off. 689 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,670 "Only Fools" gradually got bigger audiences. 690 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,959 It almost took off as late as '88-'89 691 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,351 when it went to the 50-minute format. 692 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,750 At its last showing in "96, 693 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,912 it got 27.9 million viewers. 694 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,072 I don't watch it because I'm too frightened to, 695 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,870 but you know that whilst you're doing the washing—up, 696 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,635 half the nation is watching you perform. 697 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,632 That's quite a laxative. 698 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,792 Everything I've written about has happened in my life. 699 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,270 We had the joy of birth... 700 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,230 — What is it, Del? - It's a little baby, Rodney! 701 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,355 And the grief of losing someone. 702 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,875 1 just write about life. 703 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:17,992 1 think all writers take from their own experience so much. 704 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,280 Very rarely do you use the actual incidents you witness. 705 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,231 You alter them into where you want them to go for your characters. 706 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,233 It's another way, but you know it's true. 707 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,839 My father was a very, very funny man — a great man — 708 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,675 but he was also a great socialist. 709 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,879 He'd been shop steward on the building sites where he worked. 710 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,033 And he was warning me 711 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,113 about double—checking everything in my life — 712 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,271 being sure what I put up to. 713 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,909 Don't just trust people. 714 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,357 He told me this tale about when he was an apprentice. 715 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,230 They'd gone to this big manor house to remove a chandelier. 716 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,354 They were on one chandelier and a guy's banging the other one... 717 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,117 He said there was no communication. 718 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,069 I was on the floor laughing and he was really angry with me. 719 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,709 "15 men got the sack for that!" 720 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,351 This was a time when if you got the sack you could starve, 721 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,750 so it was very serious to him. 722 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,312 I remember meeting David jason and telling him the story. 723 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,951 I was hysterical. I said, "John, you have to write it for us." 724 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,714 He said, "But it was only a story." 725 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,475 - I said, "But it's so funny." - He said, "We must do it." 726 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,350 I read it and just burst out laughing. Such a funny idea. 727 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,718 Then I thought, "How the hell am I going to do it?" 728 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,953 The first problem was finding a stately—looking home 729 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,353 which would allow you to drop loads of glass on their floor. 730 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,989 That came down with a hell of a whack. 731 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,199 If it had a wood floor, it could do a lot of damage, 732 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,990 so people didn't want to know, obviously. 733 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,917 In the end, we did it in a minor public school down in Dorset. 734 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,875 Oh, toujours la politesse, toujours. 735 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,999 This is beautiful. Bet you've held a few balls in here. 736 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,074 What?! Oh. Yes, we have. 737 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,119 Because we knew one was crashing down, 738 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,638 we got a prop firm to make one so we could break it. 739 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,998 So we had one chandelier that was the real one... 740 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,119 — That's beautiful, innit? - Yes. Good buy. 741 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,159 - French crystal? - Yes, actually. 742 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,871 It was a tricky thing to shoot because it was a one—off. 743 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,112 It had to happen in one take. 744 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,114 Ray brought in two or three cameras to cover it all 745 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,750 Grandad, you pop upstairs and get the floorboards up. 746 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,675 - You know what you're doing? - Leave it to me. 747 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,195 Right. He's a craftsman. 748 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,155 Grandad, do you want a jemmy? 749 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,753 No. Had one before we left, Del. 750 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,914 Ray, who's only a little guy, but fierce with it, 751 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,117 came up to me and said, 752 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,036 "This chandelier that we're about to drop cost £6,000. 753 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,670 "If you laugh when it's dropped, we've lost the end scene. 754 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,832 "If we've lost the end scene, we've lost the episode. 755 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,992 "If we've lost the episode, we've lost the series 756 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,800 "because the BBC will only transmit six. 757 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,511 "So if you laugh when that drops, I will fire you." 758 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,995 — Is there anything you want? - Yeah. I want to go home. 759 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,636 So David and I went up the ladders, 760 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,270 holding our sacking or tarpaulin or whatever, 761 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,434 and Ray is right there in my eye—line, looking daggers at me. 762 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,273 Grandad, we're ready! 763 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,875 (TONY DOW) He tried to make sure 764 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,158 that you were not aware of the other chandelier. 765 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,033 So the stuff with the chandelier they were trying to get down 766 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,191 was done all in foreground, 767 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,716 and all we had was subliminally this other chandelier. 768 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,909 Right. Brace yourself, Rodney. Brace yourself. 769 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,355 You can probably see they're desperately trying not to laugh. 770 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,113 (NICHOLAS LYNDHURST) Ten seconds went past 771 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,272 and I could see his shoulders going like this. 772 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,149 And they got more and more and more violent. 773 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,472 I'm looking at David. "You're going to get fired." 774 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,631 Ray is still like that. 775 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,155 I see him, out of the corner of my eye, 776 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,075 reach into his parka and pull out a handkerchief... 777 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,670 and just stuff the whole thing into his mouth... 778 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,517 and go like that. 779 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,958 Somebody said, "Cut! That's it!" after 30 seconds. 780 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,272 I came down that ladder and the air went blue. 781 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,477 I swore my head off at him. 782 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,270 We then had a load of crystal from a broken chandelier 783 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,956 that we strewed in and took a close-up of. 784 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,872 The other funny thing was that as they were ready to catch it, 785 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,318 you saw a shot of Grandad hitting it to make it go. 786 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,438 That was shot in the back bedroom 787 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,594 of my then girlfriend down in Southall 788 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,435 We took the floorboards up and shot that there. 789 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,989 You never see it join. 790 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,869 After every show went out, my dad would ring — 791 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,031 always first on the phone. 792 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,670 And I dreaded it. Thought, "What is going to happen now?" 793 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,834 The phone rang and he just said, "You were right. It was funny." 794 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,073 He'd seen it on TV and realised that it was amusing. 795 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,431 — Know what I did last night? - I bet it was depressing. 796 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,479 I read my diaries from when I was a schoolkid. 797 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,597 See? I was right. 798 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:44,358 Not quite. I noticed moments of hope within those pages. 799 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,439 There is no other writer in television 800 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,230 who can take you along that fine line between comedy and drama — 801 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,994 and occasionally comedy and tragedy — 802 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,515 and push you off one side or the other. 803 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,275 I've never felt sodding pain like that in all my Life! 804 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,152 — Is Cassandra hurting? — Of course she is. 805 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,070 How do you know? You haven't talked to her about it. 806 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,959 No. And you know why? It's because... 807 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,112 It's because it's almost as if if I don't talk about it, 808 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,510 it might not be true. 809 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,194 - well, it is. - I know, I know. 810 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,911 — But if I don't say it... - If you don't say what? 811 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,310 We lost our baby. 812 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,349 But you did...and you have said it. 813 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,400 Yeah. 814 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,758 John does not write comedy when the worst thing that happens 815 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,912 is that they run out of ice for the gin and tonic. 816 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,517 John does not write that kind of comedy and never has done. 817 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,432 There's always a depth 818 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,558 which distinguishes him from other writers. 819 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:15,715 One of the defining moments of "Fools and Horses" was when... 820 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,157 John always had the ability to make people laugh, 821 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,359 but he then realised he had the ability to make people cry. 822 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,832 I remember doing the first series of the 50-minuters. 823 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,037 - You off, bruv? - Yeah. 824 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,830 And we were doing the scene where Rodney got married. 825 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,959 I just wanted to... I just wanted to say, Rodney... 826 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,955 I'm really very proud of you. 827 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,433 You've got it all now — new job, new flat... 828 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,836 new wife. New life. 829 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,756 He left Del in the reception and it was a lovely moment. 830 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,912 A very poignant moment with a Simply Red song. 831 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,631 John was pacing up and down here getting very twitchy. 832 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,872 We were recording it in front of a live audience. 833 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,873 And he said, "They're not laughing." 834 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,635 1 said, "They're not laughing because they're crying." 835 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,271 (SONG: "HOLDING BACK THE YEARS" BY SIMPLY RED) 836 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,675 # I'll keep holding on... # 837 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,351 He's had serious subjects. 838 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,720 Cassandra and her miscarriage, death in the family. 839 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,679 All the things that do affect people. 840 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,117 But he makes you smile at them. 841 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,400 And he has a way with his words of saying, "It's not so bad." 842 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,518 Lennard Pearce wasn't well — Grandad. 843 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,753 He'd been in hospital and we were filming without him. 844 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,993 And someone came on the set and said unfortunately he'd died. 845 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,790 So we went back to our caravans. 846 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,749 David and I were pretty convinced that was it. 847 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,958 We certainly didn't feel funny anymore. 848 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,114 But the series had been commissioned 849 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,749 and we were halfway through it. 850 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,431 So we had about five days off, I think... 851 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,160 with frantic phone calls going on. 852 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,960 And within the week... 853 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,760 we came to a meeting 854 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,312 to discuss what we were going to do with the series. 855 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:45,431 And one or two of the bigwigs said that it was very sad, 856 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,591 but we must carry on. 857 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,436 Someone said maybe we could have an aunt — have a woman in it 858 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,920 Where's Grandad? 859 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,278 1 said, "I'm not playing it with a woman." He said, "Why?" 860 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,991 1 said, "It's not that, but how can we treat a woman 861 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,549 "like we treat the old man? 862 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:09,190 "Call him a daft old git and throw him in the van? 863 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,711 "I couldn't do that to a woman." 864 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,595 And we decided that we would have a funeral for Grandad, 865 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,038 A relation would come out of the woodwork 866 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,919 and it would be Uncle Albert. 867 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,390 And that was the most amazing thing, 868 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,076 that john Sullivan in a week grasped the nettle 869 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,710 and decided to have a funeral 870 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,238 of a character that was in a series on screen. 871 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,391 Never been done before. 872 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,194 (NICHOLAS LYNDHURST) It was freezing cold and snowing. 873 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,673 David and I just staring into this grave. 874 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,149 And we'd done it for real the week before. 875 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,838 There was that joke. 876 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,072 — Lovely service, vicar. - Thank you. 877 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,437 You suddenly realised it was the wrong hat. 878 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,797 Has anyone seen my hat? It was here. 879 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,719 There was just that moment... 880 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,111 and you'd seen all the characters upset and sad — 881 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,237 "We've got to get on with it. 882 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,473 "Let's go back and have a drink. Poor old Grandad." — 883 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,632 and then just that little smile. 884 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,071 It makes you smile thinking about it. 885 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,559 Our backgrounds, without question, 886 00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:13,511 have been a major part of the construction of the series. 887 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,990 1 came from north London, 888 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,152 but from a poor working-class family. 889 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,676 John Sullivan came from south London — Peckham! 890 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,832 He based the series out of truth! 891 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,038 And Ray Butt came from the East End. 892 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,237 So in all of those elements, 893 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,960 we knew what we were talking about. 894 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,112 We knew the people john was writing about. 895 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,319 There is er...a very important thing 896 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,316 about knowing how people of London speak. 897 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,039 And... 898 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,158 it's something they could sense instantly. 899 00:57:53,320 --> 00:58:00,238 If we were not able to speak London working-class well, 900 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,394 they would know and we wouldn't have been so successful. 901 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,349 Canadian Club's all round. Have one yourself, Michael. 902 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,433 Cheers, Del. Call it 25 quid for cash. 903 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,389 — OK. Put it on the slate. - No. No slate, mate. 904 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,154 I've had a visit from the brewery. 905 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,152 Oh, all right. 906 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,880 OK. There's a fiver and er... 907 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,111 Would you Adam and Eve it? 908 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920 I've gone and left me wallet at home. 909 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,117 Damien was playing with it. 910 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,794 I was teaching him financial management — 911 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,554 how to avoid expensive pubs. 912 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,111 - I'lL sell them to someone. — They're second-hand! 913 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,272 - I'll sell them cheap. — Here's a fiver for them. 914 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,558 It's not my fault. It's the brewery. 915 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,711 They've got this new rule. 916 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,874 From now on, customers have to pay for their drinks. 917 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,031 These new—fangled ideas! 918 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,237 I've got a pretty good ear. 919 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,598 I'm interested in how people speak. I like to imitate people. 920 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,958 It was important to get it right and I picked it up quickly, 921 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,751 because Ray Butt spoke... He never lost his accent. 922 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,278 And if you were in trouble about how to pronounce something, 923 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,670 Ray was there and he talked like that. 924 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,434 He was just one of them. That is Ray Butt. 925 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,833 He never put on airs and graces even with the top brass here. 926 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,957 We got a lot from him. 927 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,318 John is a bit of a social scientist in a way. 928 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,790 He reflects what he sees around him. 929 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,158 When we used to rehearse in Chiswick, we went to a local pub, 930 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,836 and this pub was right opposite an undertaker's. 931 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,991 One day we were in there, 932 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,189 and there's an old pot man — old Tom who was about 78, 79 — 933 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,351 used to clear all the tables. 934 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,718 One of the hearses pulled up outside opposite 935 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,952 and the boys who'd just done the funeral came in. 936 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,796 As they came in, a wag shouted, "Tom, your minicab's arrived!" 937 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,474 That turned up in the script. 938 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,029 I don't believe you! 939 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,714 Hang up. Hats off. 940 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,793 Hello, your minicab's arrived, Albert. 941 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,078 Boycie! 942 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,991 Is that Dave? 943 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,398 Yeah. 944 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,871 You git! 945 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,471 You rotten git! 946 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,598 You never told me my new job was Chief Mourner! 947 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,036 Rodney! Show some respect. 948 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,114 (JOHN SULLIVAN) You do hear things in pubs, in restaurants, 949 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,556 in bus queues, anywhere. 950 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,350 You hear the most wonderful lines by just listening. 951 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,591 The best lines are out of life. 952 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,720 That fall through the bar I saw happen. 953 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,110 Trig! Trigger! Over here. 954 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,636 Pub called The George on top of Balham Hill a guy did it... 955 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,158 exactly like that, showing off to some girls with some mates. 956 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,470 Showing off to some girls here. 957 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,280 I was there with a couple of my mates. 958 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,910 He lent forward to get a light from his mate's lighter, 959 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,710 the barman come out, and he went through. 960 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,679 He never hit the floor. He stumbled and got up 961 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,959 and did one of those embarrassed giggles — "I meant to do that." 962 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,396 It just stuck with me. 963 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,915 Again, I think I was up the BBC Club 964 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,119 and I said to David Jason "I saw this thing, Id love to use it, 965 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,840 "but I don't know how or where." 966 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,790 We must have waited ten years before we got the opportunity. 967 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,396 Someone came up to me one day and said, 968 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,871 "I want to ask you a question, Mr Jason. 969 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,238 "You know that thing when you fell through the bar?" 970 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,232 And I said, "Yes." 971 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,914 And he said, "Was it an accident?" 972 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,711 I said, "What do you mean?" He said, "Did you mean to do it?" 973 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,760 The construction that went into that to make that work 974 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,718 was very interesting. 975 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,511 (TONY DOW) We didn't think then it was a classic moment. 976 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,150 Everybody thinks, "Oh, he fell through the bar." 977 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,880 But it was meticulously rehearsed. 978 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,475 He didn't fall through the bar every day, 979 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,190 but David and I had long conversations about it. 980 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,034 I had a tremendous grounding in the theatre, 981 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,159 and I did all the Brian Rix farces... 982 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,871 and I was on tour in plays. 983 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,396 The things I did were very physical 984 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,996 I was very fortunate in being able to enjoy 985 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,154 getting thrown out of doors and diving through hatches. 986 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,994 So it was quite natural for me. 987 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,393 — We just learn their language. — Why? Are they foreign? 988 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,150 We had Roger Lloyd Pack and David Jason 989 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,231 trying to chat up two birds. 990 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,518 The important thing was never to cut — 991 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,671 to hold the shot. 992 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,470 If you look at it, we never cut. We just held the shot. 993 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,438 In quite a loose shot. 994 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,798 Normally, with a funny moment, you cut in to make it bigger, 995 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,590 but if we'd done that, people would have known it was coming. 996 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,276 When it happened, nobody suspected it at all 997 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,954 I think we're on a winner here, Trig. 998 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,909 Play it nice and cool, son. Nice and cool. 999 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,198 David held that fantastic rigid position. 1000 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,676 Then you got another laugh as Roger does a Trigger moment 1001 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,798 where he just looks — "What happened there?" 1002 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,316 Then David popped up with that immortal line. 1003 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,951 Drink up, Trig. We're leaving. 1004 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,598 What about them birds? 1005 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,912 No, mate. You're cramping my style. 1006 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,634 It doesn't get better than that! 1007 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,991 Over the years, "Fools and Horses" has developed. 1008 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,755 It's stayed in Peckham, but the actors have got older, 1009 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,389 the characters they play have got older. 1010 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,076 Rodney married and we brought in Cassandra. 1011 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,631 He's got one of those silly little ponytails! 1012 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,552 What a wally. 1013 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,870 Looks like a Davey Crockett hat! 1014 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,553 Then Raquel. 1015 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,396 I'm not trying to meet sensitive people. I'm happy with you! 1016 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,871 They married, and we ended up with Damien. 1017 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,795 Mars and something else have come into conjunction 1018 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,113 and decided that He will be born in Peckham. 1019 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,712 The family cycle has moved on. 1020 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,794 Let me introduce you to Damien. 1021 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,510 (SPOOKY MUSIC) 1022 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:28,118 I believe the public are saying, "This almost mirrors our lives 1023 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,033 "because we've moved along with it." 1024 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,194 (JOHN SULLIVAN) Of course they've changed, 1025 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,876 but the focus is still the same. It's always survival 1026 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,352 and, beyond survival, trying to become very rich. 1027 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,632 This time next year...we'll be millionaires. 1028 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,071 My name's Perry Aghajanoff. 1029 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,996 I'm President of the "Only Fools and Horses" Appreciation Society. 1030 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,074 I've grown up with Rodney. He's my age. 1031 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,072 And I've experienced the same things. 1032 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,312 It's grown into quite a phenomenon. 1033 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,598 It's kind of taken the country by storm. 1034 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,229 We have 6,000 members worldwide. 1035 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,791 We produce our own newsletter called "Hookie Street", 1036 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,954 Our latest venture — as Del would say, we've diversified — 1037 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,193 is Trotters Ethnic Tours, taking the Trotters to the people 1038 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,752 to experience the wonders of Peckham, shall we say. 1039 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,673 Once a year, we put on conventions, 1040 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,309 generally in the Midlands. 1041 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,279 We get most of the actors along. 1042 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,115 Attendances range from 1500 to 2,500. 1043 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:49,992 People travel from all over Europe and get into the spirit. 1044 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,198 People turn up in their Trotter vans. 1045 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,637 Some people come dressed as Uncle Albert or Del Boy. 1046 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,758 They meet the actors, get their autographs. 1047 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,036 They can pose for photographs. 1048 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,239 They want to grab out further and touch the show, 1049 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,394 and through the society, they can actually do that. 1050 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,593 We know it's not real, but it's got to almost be real 1051 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,311 It's just touched on the British psyche. It's just out there. 1052 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,510 (TONY DOW) You can imagine what it's like on the road. 1053 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,435 As soon as anybody hears that "Fools and Horses" is filming, 1054 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,069 the whole world turns up. 1055 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,119 The other thing is that our lovely press 1056 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,877 do their best to try and shoot some of what you're filming, 1057 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,876 so they can say, "This happens in the Christmas special." 1058 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,476 (GARETH GWENLAN) You'd have to ask them 1059 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:57,159 why they think they're getting an exclusive to blow a story 1060 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,200 that millions of people are going to watch on Christmas Day. 1061 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,957 Why they feel it's their duty to spoil the story, only they know. 1062 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,158 We're having to film in public places, 1063 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,553 so you can't actually protect the story. 1064 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,076 (RODNEY) You said we was only going for a few hours. 1065 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,800 (TONY DOW) The Batman and Robin sequence... 1066 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,351 They're going to a fancy dress party and the car breaks down, 1067 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,955 so they have to go through town. 1068 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,591 What was brilliant was that john then took that idea 1069 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,149 and invented the mugging situation. 1070 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,231 They were mugging this woman. 1071 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,074 Out of the mist came Batman and Robin, 1072 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,914 which made the thing doubly funny. 1073 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,993 When we came to shoot it, it was a nightmare. 1074 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,677 We'd heard that nearly every press man from London 1075 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,309 had come to Bristol to try to shoot this. 1076 01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:55,189 We had this street and we had people parking lorries, 1077 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,113 we had security in hanging up blankets, 1078 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,750 trying to stop any press people coming down. 1079 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,753 I had these guys dressed as Batman and Robin. 1080 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,232 If they got one shot, it would be front of a tabloid paper. 1081 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,997 So we did this whole number about trying to hide it. 1082 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,596 We had them sitting around while we put this security in. 1083 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,991 We got them to run down the road twice. 1084 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,358 1 shot it on one size and shot it on another size. 1085 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,309 So the whole sequence, apart from when he spoke to the woman, 1086 01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:31,676 was just two shots. 1087 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,354 (MUSIC: "BATMAN" THEME) 1088 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,679 The simplest thing I'd ever shot, but the most effective. 1089 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,275 If I could have shot what I wanted, 1090 01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:46,832 I'd have overcomplicated it — taken shots of faces and feet. 1091 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,479 Del! 1092 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,838 Let's go! 1093 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,953 Sorry. Must dash. Duty calls. 1094 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,952 The thing about all these characters 1095 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,838 is that they are decent people. 1096 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,995 They are loyal to each other and have great love for each other. 1097 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,992 You all right, Unc? 1098 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,951 What you two doing here? 1099 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,318 We were worried about you. Silly old git. 1100 01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:31,949 What's this all about, eh? 1101 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,235 Running away from home at your age. 1102 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,791 Lot of things been going through my mind lately. 1103 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,759 I didn't know if I was coming or going. 1104 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,549 I feel I let the family down. 1105 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:49,239 - I let you two down. - No. 1106 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,869 Don't be so bloody daft. 1107 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:56,591 Sure, Del does some dodgy deals, 1108 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,277 but compared with politicians, they're really pretty good eggs. 1109 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:05,991 For all that john Sullivan laughs at these characters, 1110 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,393 you know that he's really fond of them, he really likes them. 1111 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,597 He loves writing about them. 1112 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,718 That's why we've done so many episodes. 1113 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,713 If he didn't enjoy it, he wouldn't do it. 1114 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,110 It seems to be timeless. 1115 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,193 No one gets hurt. It's not cruel. 1116 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:30,311 And it's — dare I say this? — it's simple humour. 1117 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:35,270 The story, the characters are not that complicated. 1118 01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,592 You know about them when you see them. 1119 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,878 You can readily absorb them and you trust them. 1120 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,112 That's the magic that John's managed to create. 1121 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,636 He's a flash git, really, when you think about it. 1122 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,476 What a git to be that clever. Hate him. 1123 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,398 So...what was the final outcome? 1124 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,394 It was bought by an anonymous bidder. 1125 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,394 He's giving it to the Maritime Museum at Greenwich. 1126 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,712 Well, that's nice, innit? 1127 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,515 Oh, you wally! 1128 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,115 What was the final score? What exactly did it go for? 1129 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,479 oh. 1130 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,749 6.2 million. 1131 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,671 So that's... 1132 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,754 just over three million each. 1133 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,320 Well, we've had worse days. 1134 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,236 Do you want to go first or shall I? 1135 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,800 well, why don't we go together? 1136 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,837 Yeah, all right. 1137 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,276 One, two, three... 1138 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,429 Yes! Whoo—ooh! 1139 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,950 At the time I was happy to let them wander off... 1140 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,397 but there was an awful lot of public 1141 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,758 and press pressure on us to bring them back. 1142 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,958 We were very uncertain whether to do it or not, 1143 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,634 but eventually we all agreed 1144 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,633 to bring them back for one more run. 1145 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,314 (THEME TUNE PLAYS) 1146 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,872 A few were critical of it and said bad things about it, 1147 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,511 but I thought it a bit unfair as we'd lost Buster — Uncle Albert, 1148 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,639 and shortly before filming we lost Ken, who was Mike. 1149 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,397 So we had major problems there to overcome. 1150 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,952 I thought they'd let us off for good behaviour, but they didn't. 1151 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,193 1'd got to start them off in their rich world — 1152 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,478 they're millionaires — and rich ain't funny. 1153 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,838 So I tried to bring them back to Peckham as soon as possible. 1154 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,789 One thing Del says as he's walking up the yellow brick road 1155 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,474 is to invest in futures. 1156 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,191 She said on her deathbed, "If ever you and Rodney become rich, 1157 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,034 "you must invest in the futures market." 1158 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,874 About four months after that, it crashed. 1159 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,637 It was a massive market and the Trotters would have been in it. 1160 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,749 So they would have lost their money within four months. 1161 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,595 1, at one point, made it clear 1162 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,912 that Del had bought the flat in Nelson Mandela House, 1163 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,550 and that was there as a sort of safety net. 1164 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,793 Obviously, if it was a council flat and they'd left it, 1165 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,951 somebody else would be in it, 1166 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,555 so I arranged for Del to buy it. 1167 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:28,032 So that was a good bit of thinking on my part. 1168 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,511 You are witnessing one of nature's great phenomenons — 1169 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,469 one that sadly David Attenborough has ignored. 1170 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,270 It's called the Trotter brothers trying to park. 1171 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,950 Hard on your left! 1172 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,680 — Right hand down. - Hard left, Dave. 1173 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,911 Right... Will you shut up?! 1174 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,551 Episode Two is an old-fashioned "Fools and Horses" episode, 1175 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,633 one that could have come from anywhere. 1176 01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,590 There's no point to them once being rich or not. 1177 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,752 It's just Del and Rodney back in Peckham. 1178 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,718 At last! 1179 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,112 You can't park there, Dave. 1180 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,959 If people really love it and aren't getting tired of it, 1181 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,238 I think we'll all be happy to do some more, 1182 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:32,110 but you always have that fear... It's been going a long time. 1183 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,353 There are great new things — "The Office", Alan Partridge, 1184 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,033 things like that. 1185 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,989 They may get tired of "Fools", and when they do, 1186 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,073 that's fine, we're very happy, 1187 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,517 we'll just all shuffle off to the nearest pub 1188 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,876 and all the public will hear from us 1189 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,759 is a heartfelt thank you and bonjour. 1190 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,993 # My name is Ginger I'm getting so much stick 1191 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,516 # 'Cause of my banger 1 need to get rid of it 1192 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,275 # If you's a drinker, then get drunk I insist 1193 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:09,070 # If you's a raver, then please bubble to this... # 98209

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