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DICK:
That's Italian.
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You can go pump
or auto.
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SCHWARZENEGGER: The .45 Long
Slide with laser sighting.
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These are brand new.
We just got them in.
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That's a good gun.
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Just touch the trigger,
the beam comes on...
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Yeah, I remember after
shooting this scene
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thinking,
"That guy is good.
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He oughta run
for Governor."
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LAINIE:
Schwarzenegger?
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What Schwarzenegger?
Me!
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Friend of mine was
working for Roger Corman.
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And he had to go
drop something off
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and I said,
"Can I go with ya?"
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Dick Miller was
an essential part
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of those early
Corman films.
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He's in quite a
number of them.
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You got a thought,
or do you want to sit here
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and play with
your blocks?
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I'll play with your blocks.
Here, give him this.
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Sometimes he has a small part,
sometimes one of the leads.
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CORMAN: Bucket of Blood was
probably Dick's best role.
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He played
Walter Paisley.
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Oh Walter,
I want to be with you!
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LAINIE: Let's call
the character Walter!
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Yo, Walter!
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MAN: Hey, Walter,
it's your wife.
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LAINIE: It's just one
of those things.
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It sort of got
attached to him.
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MAN: Walter Paisley
is born!
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But you did shoot
with naked ladies.
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No, I don't remember
naked ladies.
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Dick did his share
of gangsters,
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and he did policemen -
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You know,
working stiff parts.
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I don't know an actor who
has been in the business
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as long as Dick has
been in the business
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who isn't hiding
a million wounds.
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Dick came out here
as a writer
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and that's what
he wanted to do.
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Our childhood was probably
like everybody else's.
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Who knows?
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You hear stories,
you don't hear stories.
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I've been mistaken
for him several times
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and I always thought I was
better lookin' than him.
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Ah, sorry pal, you're over
the limit on this card.
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SAYLES:
He's that guy.
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He's the guy that when
you're watching a movie
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and you see him,
you say, "There's that guy!"
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He's in everything.
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He's like the
Washington Monument of actors.
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You can't turn on the TV
or go to the movies
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without seeing this man's career
spill out before you.
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Listen to me, punk,
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I've handled jaywalkers
who were tougher than you.
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I do hope you'll
write my book.
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I grew up with Dick Miller.
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I mean I really did.
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INTERVIEWER:
Ever flub a line?
No.
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I take Master Charge,
American Express -
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I blew the fuckin' line!
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Yeah, maybe once
or twice...
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Dick Miller is the
quintessential character actor.
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Lets get outta here.
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I hate cul de sacs.
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There's only one way out
and the people are weird.
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FELDMAN: He's in every
Joe Dante movie, isn't he?
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What was he in Innerspace?
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BOTH: Would you shut up!
Get back in your cab!
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I never thought about
being a filmmaker.
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I was going to be a cartoonist.
I was just a film fan.
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But then when finally I got
a chance to make a movie,
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I couldn't do it without
Dick Miller.
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I had to have
Dick Miller in it.
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Joe seems to adore Dick.
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They seem to get
along fantastically.
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What's so great
about Dick is -
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It's the fact that
he's so Dick Miller.
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He's so himself.
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Completely,
100 percent,
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undiluted,
pure Dick Miller.
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He's so completely
authentic.
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You're never going to
steal a scene from him.
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Because how can you
steal a scene from
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somebody who's so real?
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You're never going to
steal a scene from reality.
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No, that's what I said.
No, that's what I said!
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No, I said forget it.
I said...
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We're in New York because
Dick is doing a film.
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I'm so excited!
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DICK: Back in New York -
This is my stomping ground.
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I started out here,
a Bronx boy.
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I haven't been here
in a couple of years.
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It's nice.
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This one is
with Abe Vigoda
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and it's called
Cutaways.
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I've never worked
with him before.
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He's a nice,
quiet old gentleman.
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My friends are
still amazed -
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and the people
that I work with -
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that my brother's an actor
and he's been in so many films
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and he's such a
well known face.
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You look at him and you say,
"I know that guy."
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GENE: But he made
so many films...
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Somebody told me
he made about 300,
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which is an
awful lot.
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Can we have the check?
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It's on the house.
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Really?
Sure, what the hell.
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Different rules apply
when it gets this late.
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Know what I mean?
It's like after hours.
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KAPLAN:
I love having him around.
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I love working with him.
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Cause Dick's got a New York
accent, you know?
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You feel at home.
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Dick is a dyed in the wool
kind of New Yorker.
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He's a super authentic guy.
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He's a no bullshit guy.
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This is my first
professional picture...
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"Sorority Girl,
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featuring
Dick Miller."
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Here's some more junk.
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This is from
Gremlins.
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This is a Walter
Paisely sign.
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I've got Walter Paisely
signs all over the house.
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The Undead...
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INTERVIEWER: You played a
leper in that movie, right?
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Yeah, he cleared up
my skin nice.
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Ahh, this is War
of the Satellites...
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Rock All Night...
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INTERVIEW: How many movies
did you do for Roger?
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Do you remember?
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I've been associated
with him in about...
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49 pictures...
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That's he's either
directed or produced,
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or something
or the other.
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The first film Dick and I worked
on together was Apache Woman,
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a two-week western.
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I think it was my
third or fourth picture.
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I was just learning
how to be a director.
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I was five when he
made his first movie -
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Apache Woman -
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where he plays Tall Tree.
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I would've made a
great Apache Chief...
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Wouldn't I have,
Tall Tree?
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Mmm, Good Chief.
You Chief now.
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SADLER: And I think
that's really the secret
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to his longevity
in the film industry -
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is his height.
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Because there's always room
for somebody who is that small.
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You'll have to ask
Dick about his secret.
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I have no idea
what his secret is.
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DICK: I was playing an
Indian in my first picture,
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and I felt good about it.
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He says, "When you
finish your work here,
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how would you like to play
a homesteader for me?"
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I said, "Yeah, sure.
When does that start?"
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He says, "Tomorrow!"
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So I played a cowboy and an
Indian in my first movie.
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I think part of the
success of Corman
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was that everything was
well planned in advance.
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Roger Corman was a
well-educated young man
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who sort of stumbled
into the movie business.
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Corman was his own
director and producer,
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and knew how to make these
films quickly and efficiently,
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and had no pretense
of them being great art.
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Won't be laying that track
for two weeks yet.
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We're all waiting for
that big letter.
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Yeah, and I'm waiting
to carry it.
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DICK: Roger was on
a Western kick then.
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I played cowboys for him.
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I played a Pony Express
rider for him.
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I was making a buck.
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Dick came out as an
actor from New York
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and started getting cast
in all those movies
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and became
this presence.
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Frankly, at the time
of those movies,
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I wasn't aware of Dick.
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But looking at it
in retrospect,
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he's a thread that you see
throughout those movies.
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He's like the everyman.
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Jonathan Haze,
by the way,
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was the one who introduced me
to Roger the first time.
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What do you do, kid?
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I'm here to keep
Mr. Johnson healthy.
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I don't even
think we had
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each other's phone
numbers in those days.
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No, who had
telephones?
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I want to rustle some cows.
Don't be stupid.
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Who's stupid?
You're stupid.
Who's got any cows out here?
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Alright, I'll go rustle
some chickens.
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HAZE: That was all
pretty much ad-libbed.
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But it was the first
time that Dick and I
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got to work together
as a comedy team.
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It's not here?
Si, way back in there.
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It's too big for this
little squad, I think.
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HAZE: And it gave
Roger some ideas
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about us playing comedy
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that paid off later on
with Bucket of Blood
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and Little Shop of Horrors.
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Jonathan Haze -
Dick calls him Jackie.
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But he's Jonathan Haze.
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They've been together as
friends since New York.
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They've known each other
longer than Dick knows me.
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DICK:
When Jonathan Haze said
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he was going to
introduce me to Roger,
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I thought, "I'm gonna sell him
some science fiction if I can."
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Didn't happen.
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Roger at that time,
he said, "What do you do?"
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I said,
"I'm a writer."
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He said, "We don't need writers.
We need actors."
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I said,
"I'm an actor!"
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The State Theatre
in Boonton, New Jersey.
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That's where I saw my
first Dick Miller movie,
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which was
"Not of this Earth".
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Mornin'. I represent the
Air Wave Vacuum Company.
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You the gentlemen
of the house?
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This is my house.
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Crazy. I'd like to
show you the product.
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DANTE:
I didn't know Dick,
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because I hadn't seen
any of his other movies.
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But the vacuum salesman
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definitely made
an impression on me.
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So when I saw him again
in another AIP picture -
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"Oh, that's the guy!
That's the vacuum cleaner guy."
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I know that better
than you do, sergeant.
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How well are
you doing?
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Half my men are dead.
Nothing can stop that thing.
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In Not of This Earth,
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Dick plays a
door-to-door salesman.
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This, they say
in the vernacular,
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is the darling of the
vacuum cleaning world.
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ROGER: And it was really
one of the high-points,
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if not THE high-point
of the picture.
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It's a vacuum cleaner.
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You purchase,
you don't wanna purchase.
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You wanna purchase,
you purchase.
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I don't want ya
to purchase, mister.
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I just want to give you
a free demonstration.
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You wanna purchase,
you purchase.
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You don't wanna purchase,
you don't purchase.
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I ain't gonna force
you to purchase.
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ROGER: It was a
well-written scene,
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but Dick re-wrote
it just slightly,
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just changed a little
bit of the dialogue.
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Crazy.
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I said,
"Wait a second..."
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Among my many occupations,
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I was also a
door-to-door salesman.
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I said,
"And I didn't have a spiel.
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I just spoke naturally."
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It's a very simple operation.
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MALTIN: When people try to do
homages to these B-movies,
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they do it sometimes
with a wink.
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The actors who worked
for Corman never did that.
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There's no condescending
to the material.
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It's done with
conviction.
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I must have met
a thousand cops
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and every one
of them is stupid
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Tangling with punks like you
for the money they draw,
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maybe they are.
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"Got a picture here
called Rock All Night."
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I said,
"What do I do in it?"
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He said,
"You're the lead."
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CORMAN:
In Rock All Night,
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Dick played what we used to
refer to as The Little Guy.
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Let go of me,
you big ape!
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Now beat it!
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Dick's a very real guy.
He doesn't cut you any slack.
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Fill it, will ya?
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And he's got that
sort of New York
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attitude in his
performances
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Say somethin' nice,
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or I'm gonna bounce you
right off that wall.
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Now start talkin'!
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I'm talkin'.
You listenin'?
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What he was
was the underdog
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who rises to the occasion
and conquers.
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LAINIE:
Roger started his career.
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All of the people who
grew up in the Corman camp
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wouldn't be using Dick
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if Dick hadn't been an
actor for Roger Corman.
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DAVISON:
I grew up in New Jersey
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and was a big fan
of Roger Corman's.
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I went to see Attack
of The Crab Monsters
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and Not of This Earth
when I was eight years old,
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and I don't think I've ever
been as scared since.
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He was able to get the money
to make those little movies.
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I guess little by little,
he got better at it.
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People liked them...
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which surprised
the hell out of me.
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But in high school, I learned
to appreciate Dick Miller.
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I learned to appreciate how
he was able to give life
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to even the smallest
of roles.
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We don't have
much time, Dave.
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We've got
plenty of time.
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They're just calling
for Rocket One.
I'm going on Rocket One.
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Dick Miller's first 10
feature film acting jobs
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were all for Roger.
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Dick is top billed in
War of the Satellites,
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and he tries hard to
suppress his Bronx accent,
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and is pretty
successful with it.
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Is it fantastic that there's
an intelligent race out there
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that stops at nothing to keep us
quarantined on our own planet?
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Is the Sigma Barrier
fantastic?
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But he plays it more
like a leading man
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than the character
actor that he is...
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And manages, I think
quite convincingly,
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to play against his
blue collar persona
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and portray a scientist.
314
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It's harder then anything we
have yet been able to devise.
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And it has a fantastic
thermal resistance.
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Hm. I didn't know that.
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I think the first
movie I saw
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was War of the
Satellites.
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I remember, years after,
my brother Gene said,
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"You know, where did Dick
learn all those big words?"
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Now the gentlemen here
ask themselves why
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these aliens are so
concerned that we do not
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penetrate the
Sigma Barrier?
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If Lenny Bruce
could've acted,
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he would've been
Dick Miller.
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Especially the young
Dick Miller,
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'cause Dick
had this kind of
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hipster quality
about him.
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Hello?
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Hello, Sybil?
This is Dave.
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BEHR: One of my
favorite moments
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in the Dick Miller
filmography
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is in War of the
Satellites,
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where he plays this
absolute hipster scientist.
335
00:13:05,052 --> 00:13:07,222
They never identify
him as a hipster,
336
00:13:07,254 --> 00:13:10,524
but you know he's off boppin'
at night, smokin' reefer.
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00:13:10,557 --> 00:13:12,127
And there's one moment
338
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when he comes in to
see Richard Devon...
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I was wondering if I can ask
you a question, personally.
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Certainly...
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BEHR:
Dick sits down
342
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and he does this little
thing with his head
343
00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:24,565
that he sometimes does.
344
00:13:24,604 --> 00:13:26,474
Which is the
exact same thing
345
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that Lenny Bruce used
to do in his act.
346
00:13:30,210 --> 00:13:33,050
That's the coolest
guy in movies, guys!
347
00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,880
So that's why when he gets
to play Walter Paisley,
348
00:13:35,916 --> 00:13:38,586
people use that
as a reference
349
00:13:38,618 --> 00:13:41,088
to who Dick Miller is...
350
00:13:41,121 --> 00:13:43,291
That's not
Dick Miller at all!
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DICK: For a while I was
writing in New York.
352
00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:51,001
So I came out here
with a bunch of stories,
353
00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:53,101
science fiction things.
354
00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:54,373
GENE:
I knew he was writing,
355
00:13:54,401 --> 00:13:57,471
but I really thought that what
was going to happen in the end
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00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,074
would be his acting,
357
00:13:59,106 --> 00:14:00,966
because he's gone to
a theatrical school
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00:14:01,008 --> 00:14:03,978
and he seemed to have
a lot of talent.
359
00:14:04,011 --> 00:14:05,411
But I knew he'd
been writing.
360
00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:08,075
But I didn't know is he was
successful with that or not.
361
00:14:08,115 --> 00:14:09,875
DICK:
I got out of the service,
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00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:11,577
so I went to an
upholstery school.
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00:14:11,618 --> 00:14:13,618
I went down there and filled
out all of the papers.
364
00:14:13,653 --> 00:14:16,023
He said, "We don't have
any night classes anymore,
365
00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:18,356
just the day classes.
366
00:14:18,391 --> 00:14:20,491
Start at 8 o'clock
in the morning."
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00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:21,687
I said, "That's no good.
368
00:14:21,728 --> 00:14:25,328
I don't go to sleep until 3
or 4 o'clock in the morning.
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00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:28,535
Right next to the New York
School of Upholstery
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00:14:28,568 --> 00:14:32,108
was the New York Theatre
School of Dramatic Arts.
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00:14:32,139 --> 00:14:34,269
I called them - "What time
do your classes start?"
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00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:37,277
BILL: He was on his own
at a young age.
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00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:40,280
He always learned
to rely on himself,
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00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:42,153
and I think
that's good.
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00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:44,952
I really didn't know
much about acting.
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00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:46,945
I didn't care
to be an actor.
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00:14:46,987 --> 00:14:49,057
I had fooled
around a little -
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00:14:49,089 --> 00:14:51,319
Played drums,
sang a little.
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00:14:51,358 --> 00:14:53,288
So maybe the
formative years
380
00:14:53,326 --> 00:14:55,526
and the separation
from the parents
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00:14:55,562 --> 00:14:58,202
had more of an
affect on him than,
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00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:01,101
psychologically,
he wants to admit.
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00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:05,439
GENE: My mother,
she was an opera star.
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00:15:05,472 --> 00:15:07,672
She was soprano
and very good.
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00:15:07,707 --> 00:15:11,237
And we were raised, really,
on that type of music.
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00:15:11,278 --> 00:15:14,548
But she was very talented,
quite talented.
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00:15:14,581 --> 00:15:17,551
DICK: Oh, I was about 8
or 9 years old, I guess.
388
00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:21,254
I came home to just one
of the usual arguments.
389
00:15:21,288 --> 00:15:23,388
Of course, my mother
and father divorced.
390
00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:27,093
I think all of his
interest in show business
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00:15:27,127 --> 00:15:30,157
stemmed from his mother.
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00:15:30,197 --> 00:15:32,697
DICK: My mother was prepared
to give up everything.
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00:15:32,732 --> 00:15:34,702
He just couldn't
understand
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00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:36,574
why she wanted
to sing
395
00:15:36,603 --> 00:15:38,273
and wanted
to be happy.
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00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,465
It had a big
affect upon Dick.
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00:15:40,507 --> 00:15:42,537
And I think Dick,
overall, felt
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00:15:42,575 --> 00:15:45,145
my father wasn't
fair to his mother.
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00:15:46,613 --> 00:15:49,283
DICK: I didn't know
why they got divorced.
400
00:15:49,316 --> 00:15:51,676
My father was living
someplace else -
401
00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:53,188
and that was it.
402
00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:56,190
So he went out to California,
sort of alone.
403
00:15:56,223 --> 00:15:59,233
You know,
Gene was going his own way
404
00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:01,559
and we had a big family
in California.
405
00:16:01,594 --> 00:16:04,564
So they took care of
him to a large extent,
406
00:16:04,597 --> 00:16:06,767
but mostly he took
care of himself.
407
00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:10,299
I was busy living life.
408
00:16:10,337 --> 00:16:12,737
And I came out
to California...
409
00:16:12,772 --> 00:16:14,742
Unfortunately...
410
00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:17,744
my mom died before
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00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:21,277
she could see
any of my films.
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00:16:25,352 --> 00:16:27,692
MAN:
I will talk to you of art.
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00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,420
For there is nothing
else to talk about -
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00:16:30,457 --> 00:16:33,157
For there is nothing else.
415
00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,363
Life is an obscure hobo,
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00:16:35,395 --> 00:16:38,625
bumming a ride on
the omnibus of art.
417
00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,565
Burn gas buggies
418
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,200
and whip your sour cream
of circumstance,
419
00:16:44,237 --> 00:16:45,607
and hope.
420
00:16:45,638 --> 00:16:49,238
And go ahead and sleep
your bloody heads off.
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00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:50,776
SCHLESINGER: When you
talk about quintessential
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00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:52,280
Dick Miller roles,
423
00:16:52,312 --> 00:16:53,682
the common agreement is that
424
00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:56,123
it's Walter Paisley in
A Bucket of Blood.
425
00:16:56,149 --> 00:16:59,119
Yes, man, yes!
Hi!
426
00:16:59,152 --> 00:17:01,092
The image we have
of Dick Miller
427
00:17:01,121 --> 00:17:03,261
was created in
Bucket of Blood.
428
00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:04,560
ARKUSH:
Bucket of Blood, I think,
429
00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:07,391
is maybe my favorite
Roger Corman movie.
430
00:17:07,427 --> 00:17:09,597
Hey, that's a pretty
far out name for a statue.
431
00:17:09,629 --> 00:17:11,659
I saw a statue once -
It was called
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00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:14,368
'The Third Time Phyllis
Saw Me She Exploded'.
433
00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:17,371
It's a role where he does
play kind of an idiot,
434
00:17:17,404 --> 00:17:20,374
even though he's
kind of good natured.
435
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,377
You alright, Franky?
436
00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:24,379
Dick is in no sense
437
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,381
like that
character in life.
438
00:17:26,413 --> 00:17:29,353
He is much more
like the character
439
00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,552
in Rock All Night.
440
00:17:31,584 --> 00:17:33,654
I thought you said that life
was like an obscure hobo,
441
00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:35,656
bumming a ride on the -
I do believe
in that Walter,
442
00:17:35,688 --> 00:17:37,818
but I also believe
creative living.
443
00:17:37,857 --> 00:17:40,227
He could play
a comedy role
444
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:42,200
and bring
a depth to it,
445
00:17:42,229 --> 00:17:43,829
and a seriousness to it,
446
00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:46,173
that gave it an
added dimension.
447
00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:48,299
The artist is -
All others are not.
448
00:17:48,335 --> 00:17:50,295
That's most intriguing.
449
00:17:50,337 --> 00:17:52,137
Are you a painter?
450
00:17:52,172 --> 00:17:55,142
His ambition
is to be an artist.
451
00:17:55,175 --> 00:17:56,505
What's it called?
452
00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:57,543
Dead Cat?
453
00:17:57,577 --> 00:17:59,547
He takes the cat,
and he covers it in plaster,
454
00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,149
and he shows it to people,
455
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:02,581
and they think it's
a great sculpture.
456
00:18:02,615 --> 00:18:04,575
Man, you are in!
Oh, Walter...
457
00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:07,787
Then he has to do more
and he kills a man.
458
00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:12,162
So there's interesting
levels of one killing
459
00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:13,662
for the sake of beauty,
460
00:18:13,693 --> 00:18:16,163
and is that the right
thing to do, you know?
461
00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:18,426
Is that fraudulent?
Is it not art?
462
00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:20,425
Yeah, you're a
real artist now.
463
00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:23,197
I think people do relate
to Walter Paisley.
464
00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:24,736
We've all been through that -
465
00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:26,511
Trying to break in,
466
00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:28,379
trying to get started.
467
00:18:28,408 --> 00:18:31,508
A canvas is a canvas,
or a painting.
468
00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:34,354
A rock is a rock,
or a statue...
469
00:18:34,381 --> 00:18:36,551
ARKUSH: Like in all
other parts of life
470
00:18:36,583 --> 00:18:39,253
and in social settings,
there's a hierarchy.
471
00:18:39,286 --> 00:18:40,586
People respond
to hierarchies,
472
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,520
whether it's
professional sports
473
00:18:42,555 --> 00:18:43,615
and you're the
quarterback,
474
00:18:43,656 --> 00:18:46,186
or, in the this case,
instead of the quarterback,
475
00:18:46,226 --> 00:18:47,856
you're the poet
or the artist
476
00:18:47,894 --> 00:18:51,534
who is the center of
beatnik life in the coffee shop.
477
00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:53,504
Bring me an espresso,
Walter.
478
00:18:53,533 --> 00:18:54,833
ARKUSH:
Walter is on the fringe.
479
00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:56,467
He's got no
artistic talent,
480
00:18:56,503 --> 00:18:58,213
he's got nothing
going for him,
481
00:18:58,238 --> 00:18:59,568
and he can't get girls -
482
00:18:59,606 --> 00:19:01,836
which is kind of a big
motivating factor for him.
483
00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:03,644
Crazy, what did he say?
484
00:19:03,676 --> 00:19:05,646
Didn't you hear him?
No man, I'm too far out.
485
00:19:05,678 --> 00:19:07,378
KARASZEWSKI:
A Bucket of Blood is a hoot!
486
00:19:07,414 --> 00:19:08,684
It sort of takes
487
00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:11,375
what would be a generic
drive-in picture
488
00:19:11,418 --> 00:19:14,588
and, all of a sudden,
gives it an odd spin.
489
00:19:14,621 --> 00:19:17,491
Its really a sophisticated,
brilliant little satire
490
00:19:17,524 --> 00:19:20,734
for a low-budget,
quickie B-movie.
491
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,800
For some reason,
Chuck Griffith's writing,
492
00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:25,469
which can be very dark and
funny at the same time,
493
00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:27,428
was the perfect
match for Dick.
494
00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:30,437
CORMAN: Chuck Griffith and I
went out and had dinner,
495
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:31,600
and I said to Chuck,
496
00:19:31,638 --> 00:19:35,308
"Let's spend the night going
from beatnik coffee house
497
00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:36,612
to beatnik coffee house,
498
00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:39,953
and we will put together
an outline from which
499
00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:41,809
you will do
the treatment."
500
00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:44,278
I don't want you to
make any more statues.
501
00:19:44,317 --> 00:19:45,617
Do you understand?
502
00:19:45,652 --> 00:19:47,622
No more statues!
Why not?
503
00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:49,294
If you do the lead
in the picture,
504
00:19:49,322 --> 00:19:50,592
you do the lead
in the picture.
505
00:19:50,623 --> 00:19:52,433
They're all
pretty much the same.
506
00:19:52,459 --> 00:19:55,499
But that's the one
that I like the best.
507
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:57,698
It really is, I think,
his best performance,
508
00:19:57,730 --> 00:20:00,570
and he's been known for it
in sort of a cult way.
509
00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:06,835
Did you call me,
Mr. Mushnik?
510
00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:09,543
No, I was calling
John D. Rockefeller
511
00:20:09,576 --> 00:20:12,276
for to make a loan
on my Rolls Royce!
512
00:20:12,312 --> 00:20:13,782
JACKIE: Oh,
I'll tell you something.
513
00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:16,453
But it's the first time
I really saw Dick.
514
00:20:16,483 --> 00:20:18,723
He was in a movie called
Bucket of Blood,
515
00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:21,391
and I knew Antoney Carbone,
who was in it -
516
00:20:21,421 --> 00:20:23,461
we went to school together.
517
00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:25,530
So, naturally,
I went to see the movie
518
00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:27,728
and Dick was the star.
519
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,730
So that's how
I felt on the set.
520
00:20:30,763 --> 00:20:32,733
Look, here I got
a new customer.
521
00:20:32,765 --> 00:20:34,665
JACKIE: When Dick
stepped on the set,
522
00:20:34,701 --> 00:20:37,341
you just know that
he's somebody special.
523
00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,340
Now what can I
do for you, sir?
524
00:20:39,372 --> 00:20:40,542
My name is
Burson Fouch.
525
00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:43,283
Excellent,
I'm Gravis Mushnik.
Oh, that's a good one.
526
00:20:43,310 --> 00:20:44,910
Who's gonna
get my roses?
527
00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:47,814
The Little Shop of
Horrors went so fast,
528
00:20:47,847 --> 00:20:50,747
nobody had time to have
small talk, really,
529
00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:53,023
'cause you're running
from scene to scene.
530
00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:54,952
It was a two-day movie.
531
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:57,317
AUDREY II:
Feed me!
532
00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:58,457
HAZE:
We had to shoot it fast,
533
00:20:58,491 --> 00:21:01,561
and a lot of the times we
would just have to ad lib
534
00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:03,064
because we'd
lose ourselves -
535
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:04,625
we didn't know
where we were.
536
00:21:04,664 --> 00:21:06,674
Little Shop of Horrors
was the next picture
537
00:21:06,699 --> 00:21:08,569
after Bucket of Blood.
538
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,671
By the time Roger
was getting ready
539
00:21:10,703 --> 00:21:12,413
to do Little Shop
of Horrors,
540
00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:14,339
I'd heard that
he had Chuck Griffith
541
00:21:14,374 --> 00:21:16,644
writing a comedy
for Dick Miller.
542
00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:18,806
Now came Little
Shop of Horrors.
543
00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:20,975
I said, "This is the
same character."
544
00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:23,523
HAZE: Dick read it and decided
that he didn't want to do it
545
00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:26,020
because it was similar
to Bucket of Blood.
546
00:21:26,052 --> 00:21:27,392
In those days,
547
00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:28,790
there weren't
any sequels.
548
00:21:28,821 --> 00:21:30,491
I resented
doing the part.
549
00:21:30,523 --> 00:21:31,963
I said, "I don't
wanna do this.
550
00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:33,591
Give it to Jonathan Haze."
551
00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:36,056
I said, "Well, I'll do
anything in it to be workin'."
552
00:21:36,095 --> 00:21:37,555
Are you crazy?
553
00:21:37,597 --> 00:21:38,897
Who, who?
You, you!
554
00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:42,501
So I felt that it was
a good payback time
555
00:21:42,535 --> 00:21:45,035
by giving him a lead
in this picture.
556
00:21:45,071 --> 00:21:46,641
Dick was in scenes with me,
557
00:21:46,673 --> 00:21:48,113
'cause I worked
in the Flower Shop
558
00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,410
and he came in and
ate the flowers.
559
00:21:50,443 --> 00:21:51,983
Of course,
what else?
560
00:21:52,011 --> 00:21:53,781
DICK: I said,
"Get me clean flowers."
561
00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:57,453
I think he got them from a
funeral house or something,
562
00:21:57,484 --> 00:21:59,454
'cause they
tasted terrible.
563
00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:01,446
You didn't mean it...
564
00:22:01,488 --> 00:22:03,758
ROGER: I did have,
to a certain extent,
565
00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:05,790
a stock company,
as much as you can.
566
00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,985
Dick was one of
my favorite actors.
567
00:22:08,027 --> 00:22:09,897
I always thought he was
a brilliant actor.
568
00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:12,129
One of his best friends,
Jonathan Haze,
569
00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:14,604
was among them,
as well.
570
00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:16,704
HAZE: Well, I mean,
I've heard that story.
571
00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:18,706
I've heard all about
stock companies
572
00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:21,838
and the Corman Acting School
and all that stuff.
573
00:22:21,874 --> 00:22:24,144
There wasn't any
kind of any of that.
574
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,106
There was no stock company.
575
00:22:26,145 --> 00:22:29,775
There was no unified group of
actors that were his group.
576
00:22:29,816 --> 00:22:31,676
If you worked for him
and he liked you,
577
00:22:31,718 --> 00:22:33,388
he'd use you again.
578
00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:35,150
Except for Jackie
and Jack Nicholson,
579
00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:37,157
we'd all worked
together before.
580
00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:39,159
Is this Doctor
Forbes's office?
581
00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:41,131
DEL VALLE:
Dick Miller...
582
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,060
I thought his performance
in A Bucket of Blood
583
00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:45,726
was every bit as good
584
00:22:45,765 --> 00:22:48,865
as Jack Nicholson's in
The Little Shop of Horrors.
585
00:22:48,901 --> 00:22:50,601
Oh, my God,
586
00:22:50,637 --> 00:22:52,607
don't stop now!
587
00:22:52,639 --> 00:22:54,469
Hollywood is not
based on talent.
588
00:22:54,507 --> 00:22:56,477
It's not based on anything
other than being
589
00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:57,979
in the right place,
at the right time,
590
00:22:58,010 --> 00:23:01,610
and having within you whatever
that is that someone wants.
591
00:23:01,648 --> 00:23:04,118
It's all a matter of luck.
592
00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:07,790
Little Shop of Horrors is
interesting because, originally,
593
00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:10,490
Roger wanted Dick to
play the lead character
594
00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:12,023
and he felt,
"I've already done that.
595
00:23:12,058 --> 00:23:14,028
Let Jonathan play it.
Give me something else to do."
596
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,700
In a way, it seemed like
a missed opportunity.
597
00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:19,699
But maybe it sort of,
in some peculiar way,
598
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:22,072
confirmed his decision that
being the star of the movie
599
00:23:22,101 --> 00:23:25,641
isn't necessarily always
the best thing to be.
600
00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:27,772
DICK: There wasn't
a large pool of actors
601
00:23:27,807 --> 00:23:32,777
that were ready to work
for Roger Corman.
602
00:23:32,812 --> 00:23:35,082
He worked like lightning.
603
00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:37,584
The only reason Roger
did a second take
604
00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:40,587
was if the camera fell over.
605
00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:42,490
He did his best work
606
00:23:42,522 --> 00:23:44,522
in casting his pictures.
607
00:23:44,557 --> 00:23:46,127
And I think
that when
608
00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:48,058
a newcomer
comin' along
609
00:23:48,094 --> 00:23:49,664
did a good job
for him,
610
00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:51,956
he'd say,
"Let's use him again."
611
00:23:51,998 --> 00:23:54,668
In the name of the
government of France,
612
00:23:54,701 --> 00:23:56,641
I order you to
open this door!
613
00:24:00,707 --> 00:24:03,237
Your pardon, young sir,
I was at my devotions.
614
00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:04,775
I did not hear you.
615
00:24:04,811 --> 00:24:06,081
I'm sorry, sir.
616
00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:09,082
But surely I made enough
noise to awaken the dead.
617
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:12,685
I don't what Jack really
wanted to do at the beginning.
618
00:24:12,719 --> 00:24:14,149
Yes, Baron?
619
00:24:14,186 --> 00:24:16,686
Cognac,
for our guest.
620
00:24:16,723 --> 00:24:18,993
Yes, Baron.
621
00:24:19,025 --> 00:24:21,485
DICK: He was ill-suited
for the part.
622
00:24:21,528 --> 00:24:22,628
Right after that,
623
00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:26,272
he did some other pictures
that he was marvelous in.
624
00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:27,828
The legend goes
that Roger wrapped
625
00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:29,097
The Raven three days early.
626
00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:32,505
So he still had Karloff under
contract for a couple of days
627
00:24:32,539 --> 00:24:33,839
and the sets were
still standing.
628
00:24:33,873 --> 00:24:35,843
So he decided to
shoot another movie,
629
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:37,005
right then and there.
630
00:24:37,043 --> 00:24:39,953
Even as a kid, I had no clue
what that movie was about.
631
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,709
They didn't have a script.
632
00:24:41,748 --> 00:24:43,578
They would just scribble
down a bunch of stuff.
633
00:24:43,616 --> 00:24:45,586
You know,
Roger would have Boris
634
00:24:45,618 --> 00:24:46,888
walk across the room,
635
00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:48,859
change his jacket,
and walk back.
636
00:24:48,888 --> 00:24:51,858
Karloff just walks through
this movie in smoking jackets.
637
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:53,961
[Imitating Karloff]
"Where do you want me, Roger?
638
00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:56,633
Three days is
too much time."
639
00:24:56,663 --> 00:24:58,703
None of this was
cutting together.
640
00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:00,171
DEL VALLE:
When Karloff did The Terror,
641
00:25:00,199 --> 00:25:02,939
he said, "I never want to hear
that man's name again."
642
00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:05,069
And I always thought
that was funny.
643
00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:07,144
Because Vincent Price said,
"Well, I hear it all the time,
644
00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:08,913
and I don't have
a problem with it."
645
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,741
But Boris was
kind of cranky.
646
00:25:10,777 --> 00:25:12,847
Plus he had guys
like Monte Hellman,
647
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:14,679
and Francis Coppola,
and Jack Hill
648
00:25:14,714 --> 00:25:16,284
out shooting
second unit stuff.
649
00:25:16,315 --> 00:25:18,145
Allow me to show
you something...
650
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,754
One of the problems with
the movie also was that,
651
00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:22,857
for a horror movie,
652
00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:24,919
it didn't really have
the kind of scenes
653
00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:26,127
that you want for
a horror movie.
654
00:25:26,158 --> 00:25:28,958
So I added in a scene where
the Jonathan Haze character
655
00:25:28,995 --> 00:25:31,625
is up on top
of the cliff.
656
00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:33,904
Somehow I got the
role of a deaf mute!
657
00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:36,343
HILL: This falcon comes
down out of the sky,
658
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:37,768
flies into his face,
659
00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:39,644
and tears his eyes out.
660
00:25:39,672 --> 00:25:41,812
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
661
00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:43,611
So Jack Nicholson
grabs Dick -
662
00:25:43,643 --> 00:25:44,683
"Alright!
663
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:45,951
Tell me everything that's
going on around here!"
664
00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:48,818
The Baron did return that night
to find Eric with the Baroness,
665
00:25:48,848 --> 00:25:50,078
and he did kill her.
666
00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:51,916
SCHLESINGER: Then Dick spends
the next minute and a half or so
667
00:25:51,951 --> 00:25:55,191
literally summarizing the
entire plot up to that point,
668
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:58,191
including things he could
not possibly have known!
669
00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:00,194
But it got the
audience up to speed
670
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:04,026
and made the picture
half-way sensible.
671
00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:04,763
Ahhh!
672
00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:05,967
HAZE:
I liked that picture.
673
00:26:05,998 --> 00:26:09,698
I liked wearing all the weird
costumes and being crazy.
674
00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:11,796
And it was good working
with Boris Karloff,
675
00:26:11,838 --> 00:26:14,708
who was an old hero of mine.
676
00:26:14,741 --> 00:26:16,681
My thrill of a lifetime
677
00:26:16,709 --> 00:26:18,649
was working with
Boris Karloff.
678
00:26:18,678 --> 00:26:21,148
I think Karloff,
Gable, and Cagney
679
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:24,850
were the three big giants
I met in this business.
680
00:26:24,884 --> 00:26:26,954
You meet actors today,
they're nice guys,
681
00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,956
but they're not giants.
682
00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:30,958
KAPLAN: As much film history
as he's seen,
683
00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:32,960
and given
where he started -
684
00:26:32,992 --> 00:26:34,962
with Jack Nicholson
and that whole gang -
685
00:26:34,994 --> 00:26:37,964
You would expect to see some
bitterness or something in him
686
00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:39,767
that a lot of
the people around him
687
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:41,229
went on to make it big,
688
00:26:41,267 --> 00:26:44,737
and Dick is still playing
the smaller roles.
689
00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:47,911
Write your thoughts down here
and he will read them to you.
690
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:49,940
Just by pressing them
against his forehead.
691
00:26:49,976 --> 00:26:52,136
Anything you want to write.
Anything at all!
692
00:26:52,178 --> 00:26:54,208
How about my
mother-in-law's will?
693
00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:57,416
KAPLAN: He's a throwback to the
studio system actors, you know?
694
00:26:57,449 --> 00:27:00,249
LAINIE: I knew about whatever
he was he was doing at the time,
695
00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:02,386
but we were so involved
696
00:27:02,421 --> 00:27:04,721
in starting our relationship,
697
00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:07,057
I didn't really
get involved
698
00:27:07,093 --> 00:27:09,933
in knowing
about his work.
699
00:27:13,232 --> 00:27:15,002
I saw my husband in
700
00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:16,904
War of the Satellites.
701
00:27:16,936 --> 00:27:20,236
I was in the movie theatre
with a fella I was dating.
702
00:27:20,272 --> 00:27:22,912
I made one of those
unforgivable,
703
00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:26,252
embarrassing,
glib remarks at the time.
704
00:27:26,278 --> 00:27:30,918
I said, "That guy can put his
shoes under my bed any time."
705
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:32,920
When I was 16,
706
00:27:32,952 --> 00:27:35,152
I wound up in California.
707
00:27:35,187 --> 00:27:37,217
And Dick came
a little bit later
708
00:27:37,256 --> 00:27:39,886
and started working
on his own career.
709
00:27:39,926 --> 00:27:41,786
And then he met Elaine,
710
00:27:41,828 --> 00:27:44,298
and he
got outta my house. [Laughing]
711
00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:46,130
Carla...
712
00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:49,295
I don't wanna make
statues anymore.
713
00:27:49,335 --> 00:27:50,835
I wanna get married...
714
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:52,170
to you.
715
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:55,044
LAINIE: I came here when
I was 17 and a half.
716
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:58,754
Another actor introduced
me to Dick in Schwabbs.
717
00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:01,048
I almost fell
flat on my face
718
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080
that I was
meeting this guy,
719
00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:06,785
that I had seen
a couple of years earlier
720
00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:09,259
in a picture.
721
00:28:09,288 --> 00:28:11,258
I met Dick
722
00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:13,790
in May 1959
723
00:28:13,826 --> 00:28:16,796
and we got married
the following October -
724
00:28:16,829 --> 00:28:18,329
Five months.
725
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:22,870
GENE: It's a terribly
good relationship.
726
00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:24,142
It's shown
over the years.
727
00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:26,070
She was in show business
at the time.
728
00:28:26,105 --> 00:28:29,035
I'm trying to remember
when I met Lainie.
729
00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:32,505
I think I knew that
Lainie was in The Graduate
730
00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:34,014
before I met her.
731
00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:37,276
I think Dick had told me
that that was her.
732
00:28:37,316 --> 00:28:40,016
What do you want to know
about The Graduate?
733
00:28:40,052 --> 00:28:41,352
I mean, I'm not
Mike Nichols,
734
00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:43,957
so I can't answer
from his perspective.
735
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:45,960
He had seen
something I did
736
00:28:45,992 --> 00:28:47,962
where I played
a voodoo witch.
737
00:28:47,994 --> 00:28:51,464
He asked his production
coordinator who that was
738
00:28:51,497 --> 00:28:53,297
and she looked
and said,
739
00:28:53,332 --> 00:28:55,202
"Oh my God,
that's my neighbor!"
740
00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:56,874
And the next
thing I know,
741
00:28:56,903 --> 00:28:58,303
she's knocking
on my door saying,
742
00:28:58,337 --> 00:29:00,937
"Mike Nichols wants
you for The Graduate."
743
00:29:05,812 --> 00:29:07,982
MAN:
Sit down!
744
00:29:10,917 --> 00:29:12,247
LAINIE:
That's how it happened.
745
00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:16,264
I asked Dick, "Do you mind
if I play a stripper?"
746
00:29:16,288 --> 00:29:19,528
It seems that I've gotten
known for this
747
00:29:19,558 --> 00:29:23,128
little, itty-bitty role
I did in The Graduate.
748
00:29:23,162 --> 00:29:26,832
Because, for its time,
I suppose it was rather racy.
749
00:29:26,866 --> 00:29:28,426
But by today's
standard,
750
00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:30,467
it's just
another dancer.
751
00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:37,476
This is a portrait
I did of Dick
752
00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,009
in 1966.
753
00:29:40,046 --> 00:29:41,876
INTERVIEWER:
What inspired you to do it?
754
00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:43,024
Me!
755
00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:45,149
Who do you
think?
756
00:29:45,184 --> 00:29:46,894
BILL: They love
being with each other.
757
00:29:46,919 --> 00:29:48,419
They love bickering
with each other.
758
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,294
They can have
their own radio show.
759
00:29:50,322 --> 00:29:52,292
What do you mean?
I don't know
what it is.
760
00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:56,004
That's what the trouble is
for 55 years or whatever.
761
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:58,198
What was our
first argument?
762
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,400
That's what I'm trying
to argue about.
763
00:29:59,431 --> 00:30:02,501
Of course I understand that
these two would be together.
764
00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:05,174
You didn't like what
I made you for diner.
765
00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:06,874
I wouldn't even
call it bickering.
766
00:30:06,906 --> 00:30:08,336
It's just sort of...
767
00:30:08,374 --> 00:30:09,444
Pork chops!
768
00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:11,105
Pork chops!
Alright.
769
00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:12,583
No, it wasn't
pork chops was it?
770
00:30:12,611 --> 00:30:14,111
DANTE:
It's very funny,
771
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:16,446
in a sort of
sitcom way.
772
00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:19,922
She's never cooked
anything since then.
773
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:21,392
And you
deserve it!
774
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,060
She has trouble
boiling water.
775
00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:26,260
She doesn't know what
temperature it boils at.
776
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,260
INTERVIEWER:
What temperature does it?
I don't know.
777
00:30:39,471 --> 00:30:42,111
LAINIE:
As all actors can tell you,
778
00:30:42,141 --> 00:30:45,581
it's not a gravy train
all the way through.
779
00:30:45,611 --> 00:30:47,211
The foibles of
being an actor -
780
00:30:47,246 --> 00:30:49,276
You just don't get
that much work.
781
00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:51,945
DOEL: The first film
that I actually worked on
782
00:30:51,984 --> 00:30:53,954
was in fact The Wild Angels.
783
00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:57,086
And that, I believe, was the
first time I saw Dick Miller.
784
00:30:57,123 --> 00:30:58,423
Hey, what's the matter
with you guys?
785
00:30:58,457 --> 00:31:00,087
You're supposed to be doing
some work around here.
786
00:31:00,126 --> 00:31:01,586
Cool it, I'm just
talking to my buddy.
787
00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:02,787
Yeah?
Yeah.
788
00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:06,328
What's with the Iron Cross?
You one of those dumb angels?
789
00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:09,495
ANNOUNCER:
Their intimacies -
790
00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:11,595
A rape of decency...
791
00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:14,337
DOEL:
Defiance of authority...
792
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,383
Not trusting people
over 30...
793
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:19,048
I think Roger
responded to that,
794
00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:21,308
because, even though
he didn't hang out
795
00:31:21,347 --> 00:31:23,017
with the counter-culture -
796
00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:24,579
really except for
purposes of research -
797
00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:27,446
I think he had some
instinctive sympathy
798
00:31:27,486 --> 00:31:31,086
with the idea of
mistrust of authority,
799
00:31:31,123 --> 00:31:33,393
which is something he
had very strongly.
800
00:31:33,425 --> 00:31:35,085
ANNOUNCER:
Their emblems -
801
00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:37,097
Those of the defeated,
the despised...
802
00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:39,099
I didn't see it happening.
803
00:31:39,131 --> 00:31:41,671
To me,
a job was a job...
804
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:43,440
Kasch, Kasch.
This is Paul.
805
00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:45,139
How you doin'?
Good to meet ya.
806
00:31:45,171 --> 00:31:46,341
LAINIE:
At that particular point,
807
00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:49,382
he was more playing
the establishment roles
808
00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:53,008
and they were playing
the anti-establishment roles.
809
00:31:53,045 --> 00:31:54,545
I don't know whether
it amused him,
810
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,550
I don't know whether it
interested him at all,
811
00:31:56,582 --> 00:31:59,422
but he definitely wasn't
part of it, I never felt.
812
00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:02,321
Listen, I'll tell
you something now.
813
00:32:02,354 --> 00:32:03,994
The pay in those
days was, I think,
814
00:32:04,023 --> 00:32:06,433
300 or 350 dollars a week.
815
00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:09,028
I remember telling
my daughter once -
816
00:32:09,061 --> 00:32:10,701
We were talking
about money,
817
00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:15,029
and I said, "I've gotten by
on 15 for the year!"
818
00:32:15,067 --> 00:32:18,067
She said that $15,000
was a lot of money.
819
00:32:18,104 --> 00:32:19,644
I said, "Wait a second,
wait a second -
820
00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:23,041
$1,500."
821
00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:25,605
She said,
"You made five pictures!"
822
00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:27,354
I said, "That's right."
823
00:32:27,379 --> 00:32:29,549
There just wasn't any money.
824
00:32:29,581 --> 00:32:31,981
LAINIE: There were
a couple of years
825
00:32:32,018 --> 00:32:34,518
when so little came
into the house
826
00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:36,463
from Dick's acting
827
00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:39,458
and from me
going to school...
828
00:32:39,491 --> 00:32:41,331
BILL: I remember,
in those days,
829
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,030
when I first went out
to California,
830
00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:45,202
Dick never wanted
to leave the house.
831
00:32:45,231 --> 00:32:46,471
I had a lot of agents.
832
00:32:46,498 --> 00:32:48,568
They didn't do a thing for me.
833
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,040
BILL: And he never even wanted
to go 10 or 15 minutes way,
834
00:32:52,071 --> 00:32:55,111
because he was afraid
he'd miss a call.
835
00:32:55,141 --> 00:32:58,211
When I got a call,
I got a part.
836
00:32:58,244 --> 00:33:00,214
Tell us,
Miss Campbell,
837
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,546
did you ever dream of being
a star in those days?
838
00:33:02,581 --> 00:33:04,551
I used to dream
about getting away
839
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,553
from Fitzwilliam,
New Hampshire.
840
00:33:06,585 --> 00:33:09,185
BILL: I remember,
maybe 40 years ago,
841
00:33:09,221 --> 00:33:11,191
35 years ago maybe,
842
00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:14,493
he wasn't getting as many
parts as he deserved.
843
00:33:14,526 --> 00:33:16,726
Gene was the coroner
of Orange County
844
00:33:16,762 --> 00:33:19,232
and he got him
some interviews.
845
00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:21,465
Dick resisted it
in the worst way.
846
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:25,100
Eventually, he said, "Alright,
I'll go to the interviews."
847
00:33:25,137 --> 00:33:26,767
And they set up the interviews
848
00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:29,075
and Dick just never showed up.
849
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:30,178
[Laughs]
850
00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:32,239
I don't know whether I
should laugh at that or not.
851
00:33:32,278 --> 00:33:34,748
Dick is the type of person
that does not want to do
852
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:36,580
what he doesn't want to do.
853
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:38,475
Not that he didn't do
what he didn't want to do,
854
00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,247
but he knew what
he did want to do -
855
00:33:40,286 --> 00:33:41,716
And he wanted to be an actor.
856
00:33:41,753 --> 00:33:44,663
And he didn't care if he was
going through a dry spot
857
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:47,560
or he wasn't getting
called upon in those days.
858
00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:49,263
He was just going
to wait it out,
859
00:33:49,295 --> 00:33:50,655
and do what
he wanted to do,
860
00:33:50,696 --> 00:33:52,826
'cause he knew what
was best for himself.
861
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,474
GENE:
It wasn't easy.
862
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:56,470
And it never is, I think.
863
00:33:56,502 --> 00:33:57,802
I think the fact
that he was liked
864
00:33:57,836 --> 00:34:00,666
by producers and directors
helped him, though.
865
00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:03,336
We couldn't afford
vacations, the truth is.
866
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:06,305
The very first
time we did
867
00:34:06,345 --> 00:34:09,575
anything that
resembled a vacation
868
00:34:09,615 --> 00:34:13,245
was when he making
The Long Ride Home and I came.
869
00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:16,255
You've hurt yourself more
than once on a picture,
870
00:34:16,288 --> 00:34:17,758
doing stunts.
871
00:34:17,789 --> 00:34:19,289
DICK:
I get hurt.
872
00:34:19,325 --> 00:34:21,285
On The Long Ride Home,
873
00:34:21,327 --> 00:34:24,597
I busted my tailbone
early in the picture.
874
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:28,470
Did some very, very
fancy riding after that.
875
00:34:32,571 --> 00:34:35,211
DOEL: Roger had
a deal at Columbia
876
00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:37,541
and was preparing to
shoot a western,
877
00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:40,406
with Robert Towne
re-writing the script.
878
00:34:42,481 --> 00:34:45,121
This script was not
The Magnificent Seven.
879
00:34:45,151 --> 00:34:46,621
[Laugh]
880
00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:53,428
It soon turned out that there
were some very serious people
881
00:34:53,459 --> 00:34:56,629
who thought they were
doing Shakespeare.
882
00:34:58,464 --> 00:35:01,904
The company broke
into two camps...
883
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:03,903
There were
the Union soldiers
884
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,895
and the Rebs.
885
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:07,907
And that's why,
to this day,
886
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,739
I'm friends
with Dick Miller.
887
00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:14,406
We stayed in a town that had
as many churches as bars
888
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:17,416
and there were about 20
shootings every weekend.
889
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,749
The experience was -
890
00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:23,285
How many things on a movie
can be made difficult?
891
00:35:25,791 --> 00:35:30,431
One of the things that
may have been a sign early on -
892
00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:32,762
Every day, there would be
memos sent around
893
00:35:32,798 --> 00:35:35,228
from the Columbia
Production Department
894
00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:38,597
listing such things as the
equipment that would be sent.
895
00:35:40,439 --> 00:35:43,239
And Roger would study
these lists very carefully
896
00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:45,235
and he would
instruct me sometimes
897
00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:46,807
to strike things off.
898
00:35:46,845 --> 00:35:48,445
"Two generators?
899
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,850
I assume if they send a
generator to the location,
900
00:35:51,883 --> 00:35:54,623
it's going to work!"
901
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,693
DICK: I remember
all the suits came out
902
00:35:56,722 --> 00:35:58,692
and I said,
"What's going on?"
903
00:35:58,724 --> 00:36:01,894
And they said, "He's getting
chewed out up there."
904
00:36:04,296 --> 00:36:05,926
PETERSEN:
Roger wanted some freedom.
905
00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:08,574
He didn't want to move
30 pieces of equipment
906
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,440
to get the shot he wanted.
907
00:36:10,469 --> 00:36:12,399
It was a new way
to make a picture,
908
00:36:12,438 --> 00:36:14,668
and, frankly,
I agreed with him.
909
00:36:14,706 --> 00:36:17,806
DOEL: The Columbia guys
were worried that Roger,
910
00:36:17,843 --> 00:36:19,683
from his AIP,
911
00:36:19,711 --> 00:36:22,351
low budget,
exploitation background,
912
00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:25,881
was going to make
a cheap-looking movie.
913
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,689
DICK:
"Don't go up there.
914
00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:31,691
You're gonna pass these
guys in the suits
915
00:36:31,723 --> 00:36:33,393
and they'll
remember you!"
916
00:36:33,425 --> 00:36:34,425
And all kinds of panic.
917
00:36:34,460 --> 00:36:35,730
I said, "Ah, bull!"
918
00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:37,431
And I did pass a
guy on the stairs.
919
00:36:37,463 --> 00:36:38,733
"Are you on this picture?"
920
00:36:38,764 --> 00:36:40,934
I said, "Yeah,
I think so..."
921
00:36:44,336 --> 00:36:46,636
PETERSEN: And we had
the directorial change -
922
00:36:46,672 --> 00:36:49,712
the sudden and abrupt
dismissal of Roger Corman -
923
00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:52,241
which I didn't
support then.
924
00:36:52,278 --> 00:36:53,748
And I still
argue to this day
925
00:36:53,779 --> 00:36:56,579
he was going to make a better
picture than we deserved.
926
00:36:56,615 --> 00:36:58,845
DOEL: He was bent on
bringing in the movie
927
00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:00,494
on time and on budget -
928
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,289
even under budget -
929
00:37:02,321 --> 00:37:03,621
and he simply assumed that
930
00:37:03,655 --> 00:37:06,625
they would like it
if he did that.
931
00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:09,328
DICK: He went off and
did another picture.
932
00:37:09,361 --> 00:37:10,461
Hello, boys.
933
00:37:10,496 --> 00:37:13,866
Something I can
do for you?
Yeah, you can shut up.
934
00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:15,369
He didn't
miss a beat.
935
00:37:15,401 --> 00:37:19,411
[Gunfire]
936
00:37:29,415 --> 00:37:30,675
DICK:
I was writing.
937
00:37:30,716 --> 00:37:32,346
I wasn't selling
too much.
938
00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:33,954
And at that point,
939
00:37:33,985 --> 00:37:35,485
becoming an actor,
940
00:37:35,521 --> 00:37:37,791
I just gave up the writing.
941
00:37:37,823 --> 00:37:39,763
Not entirely,
but I decided,
942
00:37:39,791 --> 00:37:42,691
"I'm concentrating on
something else now."
943
00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:45,298
I sold a couple of scripts.
944
00:37:45,331 --> 00:37:47,501
I remember
"Which Way To The Front?"
945
00:37:47,533 --> 00:37:49,373
with Jerry Lewis -
946
00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:51,701
One of the sore spots
of my career.
947
00:37:51,737 --> 00:37:53,467
One of my first
moviegoing experiences
948
00:37:53,505 --> 00:37:55,805
was being taken
to see a film
949
00:37:55,841 --> 00:37:57,481
called "Which Way
To The Front?"
950
00:37:57,509 --> 00:37:58,639
with Jerry Lewis.
951
00:37:58,677 --> 00:38:01,077
It might actually be Jerry
Lewis' last studio picture.
952
00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:02,982
Yaaa-vwaoit!
953
00:38:03,014 --> 00:38:04,424
It has a great plot -
954
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:06,320
just really weird execution.
955
00:38:06,352 --> 00:38:08,522
Fuehrer!
956
00:38:08,554 --> 00:38:11,394
An acquaintance of mine,
who was an actor,
957
00:38:11,423 --> 00:38:12,563
he had worked
for Jerry, I guess,
958
00:38:12,591 --> 00:38:14,031
and he bought my script.
959
00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:16,599
And, little by little,
I started hearing about it.
960
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:17,858
The studio bought it,
961
00:38:17,896 --> 00:38:19,096
and all of a sudden
they announced it
962
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:20,800
and it was in the trades...
963
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:22,802
And I saw my name's
not on there.
964
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:24,574
And I took it
to the guild,
965
00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:26,573
and we had a hearing,
966
00:38:26,605 --> 00:38:28,065
and I got my
credit for it.
967
00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:29,876
I love it!
I love it!
968
00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:31,408
What they did was
969
00:38:31,443 --> 00:38:32,813
they had a re-write on it,
970
00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:36,524
and they changed
the battle from
971
00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:38,878
the Pacific Islands
to Germany.
972
00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:44,717
[**]
973
00:38:44,756 --> 00:38:46,556
KARASZEWSKI: I like to
forgive Jerry Lewis
974
00:38:46,592 --> 00:38:48,732
only because I find
that it's so watchable.
975
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,460
Even when it's a car crash,
it's really watchable.
976
00:38:51,497 --> 00:38:53,997
Well, it was funny for
a Jerry Lewis picture.
977
00:38:56,502 --> 00:38:58,102
BEHR:
It's a tough business,
978
00:38:58,136 --> 00:38:59,636
and its full of hopes,
979
00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:01,571
and dreams,
and disappointments.
980
00:39:01,607 --> 00:39:04,377
I think that Dick has
gone through a lot,
981
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:06,380
and because of that,
982
00:39:06,412 --> 00:39:07,852
I don't think he
allows himself
983
00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,919
to be totally
accessible.
984
00:39:09,948 --> 00:39:12,078
LAINIE: He had a couch
and a Murphy Bed.
985
00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:13,587
When we got married,
986
00:39:13,619 --> 00:39:15,389
we just kept all
of that stuff -
987
00:39:15,421 --> 00:39:16,861
'Cause I came from Canada.
988
00:39:16,888 --> 00:39:18,018
What did I have?
989
00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:19,456
He had his typewriter.
990
00:39:19,491 --> 00:39:21,791
That was his
main possession.
991
00:39:21,827 --> 00:39:24,157
DICK: I was just
staying alive,
992
00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:25,725
making movies.
993
00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:27,704
I think I must have been in
four or five pictures
994
00:39:27,733 --> 00:39:30,443
before I realized
I was a movie actor.
995
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:32,639
I'm still trying
to sell scripts...
996
00:39:32,671 --> 00:39:33,871
Wasn't selling.
997
00:39:33,905 --> 00:39:35,735
KARASZEWSKI: He seems to have
come out here to be a writer
998
00:39:35,774 --> 00:39:37,814
and sort of ignored
it completely
999
00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:40,883
until, for some reason,
around 1970 -
1000
00:39:40,912 --> 00:39:42,882
Which he gets
two writing credits.
1001
00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:44,784
He gets a writing
credit on a western
1002
00:39:44,816 --> 00:39:46,616
called Four Rode Out,
or something.
1003
00:39:46,652 --> 00:39:47,752
It's with Sue Lyon.
1004
00:39:47,786 --> 00:39:50,156
He does that and the Jerry
Lewis movie back-to-back.
1005
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:52,158
Maybe working
for Jerry Lewis
1006
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:54,560
makes you give it up
completely.
1007
00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:59,058
BEHR: It didn't really
hit me until the first time
1008
00:39:59,097 --> 00:40:02,697
that I was invited to
Dick and Lainie's house.
1009
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:04,774
And the two things that
I discovered there
1010
00:40:04,803 --> 00:40:07,213
were the photos of Dick,
1011
00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,708
with the big lions,
and the cats,
1012
00:40:09,741 --> 00:40:12,181
and I realized how much
they loved animals.
1013
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,580
And then there was
this art...
1014
00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:20,948
DICK: That is kind of a
strange little face.
1015
00:40:20,986 --> 00:40:24,186
What's this?
1016
00:40:24,222 --> 00:40:26,062
Here's an interesting thing...
1017
00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:28,891
What have you got?
It's a thing I made!
1018
00:40:31,497 --> 00:40:34,927
DICK: They're all made
about 50 years ago, really.
1019
00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:36,696
INTERVIEWER:
Did you draw a lot?
1020
00:40:36,735 --> 00:40:38,895
I drew constantly.
1021
00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:40,937
I drew thousands
of pictures.
1022
00:40:40,972 --> 00:40:43,642
These are the few
that are left.
1023
00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:46,205
"The Family of Man."
1024
00:40:46,244 --> 00:40:48,654
INTERVIEWER:
They seem sexual.
1025
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,950
DICK: I believe all my
pictures are sexual.
1026
00:40:50,982 --> 00:40:53,492
I just like life
that way...
1027
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,489
If I drew girls -
1028
00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:56,821
They loved it
when I drew them.
1029
00:40:56,855 --> 00:40:59,015
Or else it was strictly
from my imagination.
1030
00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:06,495
INTERVIEWER: Was there a
particular part of the anatomy
1031
00:41:06,532 --> 00:41:08,232
that you liked drawing?
1032
00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:10,096
DICK:
Well, God, no!
1033
00:41:10,135 --> 00:41:12,235
I guess, as I got
working as an actor,
1034
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:15,540
the need to draw disappeared.
1035
00:41:15,574 --> 00:41:18,184
I got a job once,
The Andersonville Trial,
1036
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:21,179
because I could draw...
1037
00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:23,252
Oh God, there -
1038
00:41:23,281 --> 00:41:25,251
That was the set.
1039
00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:26,793
I'm George C. Scott.
1040
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:28,118
It's my happy
job this evening
1041
00:41:28,153 --> 00:41:31,523
to give you an
improvisational introduction
1042
00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:33,857
to The Andersonville Trial -
1043
00:41:33,892 --> 00:41:35,832
a play by Saul Levit.
1044
00:41:35,861 --> 00:41:37,731
I asked George C. Scott -
1045
00:41:37,763 --> 00:41:38,803
he was the director
at the time.
1046
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:41,770
I think it one of the
first things he directed.
1047
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,540
I asked him,
"Were there many lines?"
1048
00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:45,039
He said,
"Not too many at all.
1049
00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:47,210
You're playing
a court reporter."
1050
00:41:47,238 --> 00:41:50,638
And I drew a picture of him
in about two seconds flat.
1051
00:41:50,676 --> 00:41:51,976
I said,
"You mean like this?"
1052
00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:53,850
"Oh yeah,
that's good!"
1053
00:41:58,049 --> 00:41:59,889
I remember,
when I was a kid,
1054
00:41:59,918 --> 00:42:03,558
a guy came over from
Disney to my mother.
1055
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:05,559
He wanted to stick me
in pictures.
1056
00:42:05,591 --> 00:42:06,561
I didn't know that.
1057
00:42:06,592 --> 00:42:08,962
I thought he was going
to make me an animator.
1058
00:42:08,994 --> 00:42:10,334
I said, "Yeah,
I wanna do that!
1059
00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:11,701
I wanna do that!"
1060
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:12,830
He told
me, "You're gonna be an actor."
1061
00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:14,704
I said, "Nah,
I don't wanna do that."
1062
00:42:14,733 --> 00:42:16,003
Who knew?
1063
00:42:16,034 --> 00:42:17,104
You want a portrait
of yourself?
1064
00:42:17,135 --> 00:42:20,005
He'll make it for you in
pen and ink in ten minutes.
1065
00:42:20,038 --> 00:42:21,908
BILL:
Dick and my father had
1066
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:24,080
a little bit of an
interesting relationship.
1067
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:26,809
If you ask Gene about
the early childhood -
1068
00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:28,745
"Oh, it was perfectly fine!
1069
00:42:28,780 --> 00:42:31,650
It was perfectly fine!"
So...
1070
00:42:31,683 --> 00:42:32,923
GENE:
He was a nice guy,
1071
00:42:32,951 --> 00:42:35,221
but very much involved
in his own life,
1072
00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:36,823
his own affairs.
1073
00:42:36,855 --> 00:42:39,755
Both Dick and I would
see him occasionally,
1074
00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:41,291
and go to lunch
or something,
1075
00:42:41,326 --> 00:42:43,796
and that was
really about it.
1076
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:46,129
BILL: When I was about 17,
18 years old,
1077
00:42:46,164 --> 00:42:49,004
my father put me on
an airplane with him.
1078
00:42:50,836 --> 00:42:52,936
We were going
to California,
1079
00:42:52,971 --> 00:42:55,071
and he said, "You're
gonna meet some people
1080
00:42:55,106 --> 00:42:57,336
who are gonna
call me dad."
1081
00:42:57,375 --> 00:43:00,345
And I met Dick and Gene.
1082
00:43:00,378 --> 00:43:04,018
You know, my father had a
drawer in his apartment.
1083
00:43:04,049 --> 00:43:05,819
And he had some
pictures of Dick
1084
00:43:05,851 --> 00:43:07,691
in a movie called
Rock All Night
1085
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,219
where he was on the
back of Variety.
1086
00:43:09,254 --> 00:43:11,094
And there was pictures
of Gene in the Navy.
1087
00:43:11,122 --> 00:43:14,262
You know, these guys look
so much like my father
1088
00:43:14,292 --> 00:43:17,362
that, even as a young kid,
1089
00:43:17,395 --> 00:43:19,255
I said, "Something
weird here..."
1090
00:43:19,297 --> 00:43:22,027
But, you know,
Brooklyn has its own vibe.
1091
00:43:22,067 --> 00:43:25,167
DICK: I knew about Bill
from the very beginning.
1092
00:43:25,203 --> 00:43:27,713
I didn't know that Bill
didn't know about me.
1093
00:43:27,739 --> 00:43:30,709
I first saw Bill
when I got out of the Navy
1094
00:43:30,742 --> 00:43:32,842
and went home to see
my mother and Dick.
1095
00:43:32,878 --> 00:43:34,378
And I went up
to see my father
1096
00:43:34,412 --> 00:43:36,882
and Bill was his child,
1097
00:43:36,915 --> 00:43:39,275
sittin' in
a high chair...
1098
00:43:41,152 --> 00:43:42,852
BILL: But Dick will
never admit it.
1099
00:43:42,888 --> 00:43:44,858
He doesn't have
the most positive thoughts
1100
00:43:44,890 --> 00:43:47,860
about my father.
1101
00:43:47,893 --> 00:43:50,103
DICK: My father,
our relationship was -
1102
00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:51,858
I didn't see
him that much.
1103
00:43:51,897 --> 00:43:54,267
Me?
I was the perpetual bum.
1104
00:43:54,299 --> 00:43:56,299
LAINIE: He really
didn't have any respect
1105
00:43:56,334 --> 00:43:58,904
for show business whatsoever,
his father.
1106
00:44:00,739 --> 00:44:02,739
BILL: He was born
in Russia in the 1890s
1107
00:44:02,774 --> 00:44:04,444
and he came during
World War I.
1108
00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:06,405
I don't know if he
was a Socialist,
1109
00:44:06,444 --> 00:44:09,684
but times were
different then.
1110
00:44:09,715 --> 00:44:11,075
My father was a fighter,
1111
00:44:11,116 --> 00:44:14,416
a little bit like Dick,
ya know?
1112
00:44:14,452 --> 00:44:15,752
My father had a temper,
1113
00:44:15,787 --> 00:44:17,957
and he didn't suffer
fools gladly,
1114
00:44:17,989 --> 00:44:20,889
and Dick doesn't
suffer fools gladly.
1115
00:44:20,926 --> 00:44:24,226
So sometimes when people
have a lot in common,
1116
00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:26,902
there's certainly more
issues between them.
1117
00:44:26,932 --> 00:44:28,102
Though, God forbid,
1118
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:29,873
if Dick thought I was
psychoanalyzing him,
1119
00:44:29,901 --> 00:44:32,801
he'd think I was
completely crazy.
1120
00:44:32,838 --> 00:44:36,038
My father, I know,
was very proud of Dick.
1121
00:44:36,074 --> 00:44:39,244
He really was
very proud of Dick.
1122
00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:42,177
You know, if Dick came from
the perfect family -
1123
00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:45,183
I dunno, maybe he woulda
been an accountant.
1124
00:44:45,216 --> 00:44:48,316
Though that's hard
to believe, right?
1125
00:44:48,353 --> 00:44:50,323
When Roger started
New World Pictures,
1126
00:44:50,355 --> 00:44:54,025
he sort of updated the
exploitation formula
1127
00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:57,499
that he first worked
with at AIP in the 50s.
1128
00:44:57,528 --> 00:44:59,128
And this is
now the 70s.
1129
00:44:59,164 --> 00:45:01,134
So now things were
a little grittier.
1130
00:45:01,166 --> 00:45:02,796
The screen was a
little more freer.
1131
00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:04,144
The marvel of
all this is that
1132
00:45:04,169 --> 00:45:07,139
the young guys
that Roger hired,
1133
00:45:07,172 --> 00:45:10,182
they all were fans of
the early Corman films.
1134
00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:11,808
They'd grown up
on those films
1135
00:45:11,843 --> 00:45:13,043
and now they were
working for him.
1136
00:45:13,078 --> 00:45:17,478
Dick Miller had somehow fallen
out of the Corman Universe.
1137
00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:21,115
He hadn't been in a Corman
picture for about four years
1138
00:45:21,152 --> 00:45:24,092
and he'd never been in
a New World Picture.
1139
00:45:24,122 --> 00:45:26,492
I think it was because Roger
had stopped directing
1140
00:45:26,524 --> 00:45:28,464
and so he wasn't casting.
1141
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:30,333
I thought it was
really wonderful
1142
00:45:30,361 --> 00:45:33,131
that the new young
directors who came in
1143
00:45:33,164 --> 00:45:36,374
recognized the guys who
had been working with me,
1144
00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:38,971
and they continued
working with them.
1145
00:45:39,004 --> 00:45:41,444
And Dick was probably
the most important.
1146
00:45:41,472 --> 00:45:43,912
JULIE: I first became
very clearly aware
1147
00:45:43,942 --> 00:45:46,412
of Dick Miller
as a presence
1148
00:45:46,444 --> 00:45:49,514
when I started making
films with New World.
1149
00:45:49,547 --> 00:45:52,947
In fact, I used to read a
treatment or a script
1150
00:45:52,984 --> 00:45:55,854
and say, "Wait, where's
the Dick Miller part?"
1151
00:45:55,887 --> 00:45:57,917
You know, Dick is sort
of a laid back guy
1152
00:45:57,956 --> 00:45:59,986
in the sense
that he never
1153
00:46:00,025 --> 00:46:02,525
went out
to seek work.
1154
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,200
It either came to him
1155
00:46:04,229 --> 00:46:07,069
or he didn't
get work.
1156
00:46:07,098 --> 00:46:09,528
I went to film school
with Jon at NYU.
1157
00:46:09,567 --> 00:46:11,167
And I knew of Joe
1158
00:46:11,202 --> 00:46:13,272
because Joe and Jon
were very good friends.
1159
00:46:13,304 --> 00:46:15,274
Jon and I not only went
to film school together,
1160
00:46:15,306 --> 00:46:17,436
but we worked at a
rock 'n' roll theatre together,
1161
00:46:17,475 --> 00:46:19,275
along with Jonathan Kaplan.
1162
00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:22,110
And when Jonathan and Jon
came out to Los Angeles
1163
00:46:22,147 --> 00:46:23,877
to work for Roger Corman,
1164
00:46:23,915 --> 00:46:25,115
I came out eventually
1165
00:46:25,150 --> 00:46:26,890
and lived in their
houses for free,
1166
00:46:26,918 --> 00:46:27,988
and slept in their garage,
1167
00:46:28,019 --> 00:46:30,819
and all that kinda stuff
you did when you were broke.
1168
00:46:30,856 --> 00:46:32,816
Jonathan cast Dick in -
1169
00:46:32,858 --> 00:46:34,858
I guess it was
Night Call Nurses.
1170
00:46:34,893 --> 00:46:36,163
ANNOUNCER:
Come and spend the night
1171
00:46:36,194 --> 00:46:38,064
with The Night Call Nurses.
1172
00:46:38,096 --> 00:46:41,066
They nurse patients
the way no doctor can.
1173
00:46:41,099 --> 00:46:43,029
From New World
Pictures...
1174
00:46:43,068 --> 00:46:44,998
ARKUSH: Essentially,
Jonathan got the first job
1175
00:46:45,036 --> 00:46:46,296
and brought everyone
else along.
1176
00:46:46,337 --> 00:46:48,207
When Jonathan Kaplan
gave me the chance
1177
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,009
to write Night Call Nurses
with Dan Opatashu,
1178
00:46:51,042 --> 00:46:52,312
I was thrilled.
1179
00:46:52,343 --> 00:46:54,513
I mean, that was the
biggest break of my life.
1180
00:46:54,545 --> 00:46:57,175
And I said, "Do me a favor -
Hire Dick Miller.
1181
00:46:57,215 --> 00:46:59,345
I'll write him a part
for the picture."
1182
00:46:59,384 --> 00:47:04,194
[**]
1183
00:47:04,222 --> 00:47:05,522
I don't know
how smart it is
1184
00:47:05,556 --> 00:47:07,886
for a young lady to be
hitchhiking alone at night.
1185
00:47:07,926 --> 00:47:09,386
KAPLAN: When Dick
walked in the room,
1186
00:47:09,427 --> 00:47:12,197
it was like,
"Oh, I know this guy!"
1187
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:14,000
So when he came
in to audition,
1188
00:47:14,032 --> 00:47:16,002
he was a little put off.
1189
00:47:16,034 --> 00:47:17,144
I don't audition good.
1190
00:47:17,168 --> 00:47:18,998
KAPLAN: He said, "I don't
audition. I read terribly.
1191
00:47:19,037 --> 00:47:20,307
I'm a terrible reader."
1192
00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:22,308
I didn't know who Jonathan
Kaplan was at the time.
1193
00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:24,210
I'm gonna read this,
and you're gonna say to me,
1194
00:47:24,242 --> 00:47:25,642
when I'm done,
"That was terrible."
1195
00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:26,636
Good director.
1196
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,477
He was right!
1197
00:47:28,513 --> 00:47:29,883
He can't audition.
1198
00:47:29,915 --> 00:47:31,245
But you got the part anyway.
1199
00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:33,522
LAINIE: Everybody from
the Corman camp, they said,
1200
00:47:33,551 --> 00:47:36,891
"If Dick worked for Roger,
he could work for us!"
1201
00:47:36,922 --> 00:47:38,992
My ass!
1202
00:47:39,024 --> 00:47:41,394
Hey Gallager,
kiss my jolly!
1203
00:47:41,426 --> 00:47:44,096
Dick Miller became
their good luck charm.
1204
00:47:44,129 --> 00:47:45,399
He's definitely a
good luck charm.
1205
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:47,600
They used him in every
movie they ever did.
1206
00:47:47,632 --> 00:47:48,672
If you're
talking about
1207
00:47:48,699 --> 00:47:50,039
what I think you're
talking about,
1208
00:47:50,068 --> 00:47:51,238
I ain't gonna
talk about it!
1209
00:47:51,269 --> 00:47:53,969
WORONOV: They prayed and hoped
that he would, once again,
1210
00:47:54,005 --> 00:47:56,265
pull them through
a crappy movie.
1211
00:47:56,307 --> 00:47:58,977
He has a Jimmy Cagney kind
of rhythm to his delivery.
1212
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:00,650
Well, he had a gun.
1213
00:48:00,678 --> 00:48:02,978
He said he was going to shoot
my ear off - That ain't nice.
1214
00:48:03,014 --> 00:48:04,284
Sheriff...
1215
00:48:04,315 --> 00:48:05,545
SAYLES:
Most good directors,
1216
00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:08,253
the first thing they do is see
what the actors are going to do,
1217
00:48:08,286 --> 00:48:10,586
because they may do something
the director hadn't thought of.
1218
00:48:10,621 --> 00:48:12,991
He's dumb enough
to get married.
Twice!
1219
00:48:13,024 --> 00:48:14,494
You saw the
first one...
1220
00:48:18,329 --> 00:48:20,269
DAVISON:
I think Roger has
1221
00:48:20,298 --> 00:48:22,528
a genuine affection
for Dick,
1222
00:48:22,567 --> 00:48:25,367
as much as he has an
affection for anybody.
1223
00:48:25,403 --> 00:48:28,373
Especially if Dick
works for scale -
1224
00:48:28,406 --> 00:48:30,936
Then the affection
is definitely there.
1225
00:48:30,976 --> 00:48:32,276
DANTE: When I came out
to Hollywood,
1226
00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:34,950
Jon Davison was
the head of publicity
1227
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:36,280
for New World Pictures,
1228
00:48:36,314 --> 00:48:38,554
and he had raided
the NYU group
1229
00:48:38,583 --> 00:48:40,553
and brought them out
to work for Roger.
1230
00:48:40,585 --> 00:48:41,685
And so Allan Arkush and I
1231
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,689
became the trailer department
at New World Pictures.
1232
00:48:43,721 --> 00:48:45,191
They were
kind of wild men
1233
00:48:45,223 --> 00:48:47,633
who came up with these
crazy ideas.
1234
00:48:47,658 --> 00:48:50,228
ANNOUNCER: Flying out of the
skies and onto your lap...
1235
00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:53,101
They battle the flying feet
of kung-fu killers!
1236
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,329
DANTE: One of the first
trailers that we did
1237
00:48:56,367 --> 00:48:58,037
was for Big Bad Mama.
1238
00:48:58,069 --> 00:49:01,209
ANNOUNCER: Angie Dickinson
is Big Bad Mama!
1239
00:49:03,008 --> 00:49:05,378
Wilma gave her
daughters everything...
1240
00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:07,050
DANTE: Dick is in the movie,
and I thought,
1241
00:49:07,078 --> 00:49:09,448
"This is a kind of rough and
tough gangster kind of picture
1242
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,150
and Dick's got
that kinda voice.
1243
00:49:11,182 --> 00:49:12,452
Maybe we should get him
to do the narration?"
1244
00:49:12,483 --> 00:49:15,123
ANNOUNCER:
Big Bad Mama, rated R.
1245
00:49:15,153 --> 00:49:17,723
Working at New World Pictures
was a lot of fun.
1246
00:49:17,755 --> 00:49:23,025
[**]
1247
00:49:23,061 --> 00:49:24,331
BEYDA: There was
definitely structure,
1248
00:49:24,362 --> 00:49:26,032
but it was also
very free wheeling,
1249
00:49:26,064 --> 00:49:27,374
because everybody
was quite young
1250
00:49:27,398 --> 00:49:29,068
and just
getting started.
1251
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,200
It was a very
exciting time.
1252
00:49:31,236 --> 00:49:34,206
I met Dick Miller in
Griffith Park in 1975.
1253
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,469
I got a job from
Jonathan Demme -
1254
00:49:36,507 --> 00:49:38,077
Crazy Mama.
1255
00:49:38,109 --> 00:49:39,479
It was produced
by Julie Corman.
1256
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:41,210
JULIE: He brought more
than his performance,
1257
00:49:41,246 --> 00:49:43,506
which was always
wonderful to look at.
1258
00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:46,218
I mean, Dick Miller
arrives in whatever scene.
1259
00:49:46,251 --> 00:49:48,221
And he brought a certain
presence to the film.
1260
00:49:48,253 --> 00:49:49,693
"He's coming tomorrow!
He's gonna work tomorrow!"
1261
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:50,690
Ya know?
1262
00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:52,121
And people who weren't
even working that day
1263
00:49:52,157 --> 00:49:53,457
would show up to
see Dick Miller.
1264
00:49:53,491 --> 00:49:55,131
The main thing
is the film.
1265
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,030
You're all there
to make a good film.
1266
00:49:57,062 --> 00:49:58,462
Did you do good?
Were you articulate?
1267
00:49:58,496 --> 00:50:00,026
Did you tell the story
in a good way?
1268
00:50:00,065 --> 00:50:01,225
Is it new?
1269
00:50:01,266 --> 00:50:02,696
Did it extend the tradition?
1270
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:04,243
Every part counts.
1271
00:50:04,269 --> 00:50:05,539
It's like poetry -
1272
00:50:05,570 --> 00:50:07,740
Each thing adds up
to the whole.
1273
00:50:09,574 --> 00:50:12,514
There were very few film
schools in those days,
1274
00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:14,483
so, for us,
this was our way
1275
00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:17,482
of really learning
our trade.
1276
00:50:17,515 --> 00:50:20,485
DOEL: When I realized that
these first-time directors -
1277
00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:22,488
It was very
important for them
1278
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,790
to have an actor
on the set
1279
00:50:24,822 --> 00:50:27,632
who was good,
who they admired,
1280
00:50:27,658 --> 00:50:31,298
and that they could
absolutely rely on.
1281
00:50:31,329 --> 00:50:34,629
I found myself not having
to direct him a lot.
1282
00:50:34,665 --> 00:50:37,295
There was no need
to do other takes.
1283
00:50:37,335 --> 00:50:39,495
He made the scenes work.
1284
00:50:39,537 --> 00:50:42,237
When he walked in,
I started smiling.
1285
00:50:42,273 --> 00:50:45,543
Here was a guy
that I never met before,
1286
00:50:45,576 --> 00:50:48,446
and yet I felt like
I knew him for years.
1287
00:50:50,715 --> 00:50:53,815
DOEL: When I really had
more to do with Dick Miller
1288
00:50:53,851 --> 00:50:55,591
was when Roger hired him
1289
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:58,290
to write the script
for TNT Jackson.
1290
00:50:58,323 --> 00:50:59,863
The thing was a stinker.
1291
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:07,400
[Fighting and shouting]
1292
00:51:07,432 --> 00:51:09,872
I think Roger and I
had a slight argument -
1293
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,870
"Go in to meet with Roger."
1294
00:51:11,902 --> 00:51:13,442
It just fell apart.
1295
00:51:13,471 --> 00:51:16,341
"Dick, this all just dialogue!
1296
00:51:16,374 --> 00:51:18,214
This is terrible!"
1297
00:51:18,243 --> 00:51:19,843
I'll pay you hard cash
for raw heroin
1298
00:51:19,877 --> 00:51:21,577
any day at
those prices.
1299
00:51:21,612 --> 00:51:23,612
And I was supposed
to do the lead in it.
1300
00:51:23,648 --> 00:51:26,378
When we wrote dialogue,
dialogue, dialogue,
1301
00:51:26,417 --> 00:51:27,847
it was with
the understanding
1302
00:51:27,885 --> 00:51:29,445
that you may not
need all of it -
1303
00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:30,687
But you may need some.
1304
00:51:30,721 --> 00:51:33,221
The re-write was about
90% of the picture.
1305
00:51:33,258 --> 00:51:35,288
The reader needs some
dialogue sometimes
1306
00:51:35,326 --> 00:51:38,756
to understand why
TNT Jackson is kicking ass.
1307
00:51:38,796 --> 00:51:41,296
[Screaming]
1308
00:51:41,332 --> 00:51:42,602
I don't know what -
1309
00:51:42,633 --> 00:51:44,443
I really literally
don't know what happened
1310
00:51:44,469 --> 00:51:46,439
after that meeting.
1311
00:51:46,471 --> 00:51:48,341
Except I know that,
of course,
1312
00:51:48,373 --> 00:51:50,343
I did know that
the script was re-written.
1313
00:51:50,375 --> 00:51:53,805
It was probably re-written
on location or so.
1314
00:51:53,844 --> 00:51:55,354
Damn...
1315
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:57,750
DOEL: He was a brilliant
dialogue writer,
1316
00:51:57,782 --> 00:51:59,252
absolutely brilliant.
1317
00:51:59,284 --> 00:52:01,294
The humor and
the timing...
1318
00:52:01,319 --> 00:52:03,619
It was that rhythm
that he got.
1319
00:52:03,654 --> 00:52:05,364
I would call it -
1320
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:08,190
It was so
working class,
1321
00:52:08,226 --> 00:52:10,196
ordinary-Joe American.
1322
00:52:10,228 --> 00:52:12,698
It was perfect.
1323
00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:15,870
INTERVIEWER:
Why did you stop writing?
1324
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:17,370
I don't know...
1325
00:52:17,402 --> 00:52:19,202
LAINIE:
Okay...
1326
00:52:19,237 --> 00:52:20,907
I have several
scripts here.
1327
00:52:20,938 --> 00:52:23,168
This is...
1328
00:52:23,208 --> 00:52:25,678
"Rock n Roll Killer..."
1329
00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:28,350
"Help, There's a
Spy in My Bed..."
1330
00:52:28,379 --> 00:52:30,379
"Rancho Bikini..."
1331
00:52:30,415 --> 00:52:32,675
"The Assassination..."
1332
00:52:32,717 --> 00:52:34,487
INTERVIEWER: Did you ever
think you would go back?
1333
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:36,919
Yeah, continuously.
1334
00:52:36,954 --> 00:52:40,294
But each time I did,
something else would come up.
1335
00:52:40,325 --> 00:52:42,625
Usually my projects,
whatever they were,
1336
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:45,300
always interfered
with pictures.
1337
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:46,630
They came first.
1338
00:52:46,664 --> 00:52:48,804
I would think
that there was
1339
00:52:48,833 --> 00:52:51,943
more satisfaction and
enjoyment to be had,
1340
00:52:51,969 --> 00:52:55,669
if you were as good
an actor as Dick Miller -
1341
00:52:55,706 --> 00:52:57,436
to do that,
1342
00:52:57,475 --> 00:52:59,275
rather than sit and
sweat by yourself
1343
00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:01,780
and have your work
torn up by other people.
1344
00:53:03,614 --> 00:53:05,454
DANTE: Paul Bartel
was a friend of mine
1345
00:53:05,483 --> 00:53:07,723
and he made Death
Race 2000, which was a huge hit.
1346
00:53:07,752 --> 00:53:10,322
And he did this picture,
Cannonball,
1347
00:53:10,355 --> 00:53:12,285
which was based on a
cross-country road race
1348
00:53:12,323 --> 00:53:13,723
for an independent producer
1349
00:53:13,758 --> 00:53:15,628
named Sam Gelfman
and Run Run Shaw.
1350
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:16,690
They're doing it again.
1351
00:53:16,727 --> 00:53:17,857
Well, they're in
for a surprise.
1352
00:53:17,895 --> 00:53:18,695
If they're
racing anywhere,
1353
00:53:18,729 --> 00:53:20,469
they're gonna race
to the impound lot.
1354
00:53:20,498 --> 00:53:22,968
Get me the
Highway Patrol!
1355
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,470
Paul was viciously unhappy.
1356
00:53:25,503 --> 00:53:27,473
ANNOUNCER:
Cannonball!
1357
00:53:27,505 --> 00:53:28,805
WORONOV:
He thought, "Oh God,
1358
00:53:28,839 --> 00:53:31,579
I have to work with cars
for the rest of my life!"
1359
00:53:31,609 --> 00:53:33,479
ANNOUNCER:
Cannonball!
1360
00:53:33,511 --> 00:53:35,811
You're the
outlaw racer!
1361
00:53:35,846 --> 00:53:37,976
Geez, a real pleasure,
Mr. Cannonball,
1362
00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,475
a real pleasure.
1363
00:53:39,517 --> 00:53:41,247
ANNOUNCER:
Cannonball!
1364
00:53:41,286 --> 00:53:43,586
Allan and I were
persuaded to appear
1365
00:53:43,621 --> 00:53:45,591
as actors
in the movie.
1366
00:53:45,623 --> 00:53:46,893
If Cannonball
Buckman wins
1367
00:53:46,924 --> 00:53:49,334
the Trans-American
Grand Prix in our car,
1368
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,960
we're gonna be
two heavy dudes.
1369
00:53:50,995 --> 00:53:53,625
Dick had a part as
David Carradine's brother.
1370
00:53:53,664 --> 00:53:55,334
Hey Danny,
where you been?
1371
00:53:55,366 --> 00:53:56,596
I thought you weren't
gonna show up!
1372
00:53:56,634 --> 00:53:57,804
What, are you kidding me?
1373
00:53:57,835 --> 00:53:59,335
You think I'm gonna
miss my kid brother's
1374
00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:00,470
first big race after
he just got out?
1375
00:54:00,505 --> 00:54:01,805
Dick is really
good in this movie.
1376
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:03,609
It's actually one of
the best performances
1377
00:54:03,641 --> 00:54:05,311
I think he ever gave.
1378
00:54:05,343 --> 00:54:06,743
This is important to me.
1379
00:54:06,777 --> 00:54:08,647
Its not just the money -
My life is on the line!
1380
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,719
DANTE: And I was privileged
to look at the dailies.
1381
00:54:10,748 --> 00:54:12,748
I was just really
impressed with Dick,
1382
00:54:12,783 --> 00:54:14,593
at how good he
was in this part.
1383
00:54:14,619 --> 00:54:15,749
And I thought, you know,
1384
00:54:15,786 --> 00:54:17,556
"This guy doesn't get
enough big parts."
1385
00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:20,388
Joe says to me, "You and I
did a picture together!"
1386
00:54:20,425 --> 00:54:23,025
If you don't start with Roger,
I don't know where you end up.
1387
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:25,330
I thought Joe
was either
1388
00:54:25,363 --> 00:54:28,633
a production assistant
or a producer.
1389
00:54:28,666 --> 00:54:30,336
It wasn't quite clear.
1390
00:54:30,368 --> 00:54:31,868
And Dick was in
that movie, as well.
1391
00:54:31,902 --> 00:54:35,042
And I think we may have met
during the screening of that.
1392
00:54:35,072 --> 00:54:36,612
I'd say,
"Hey, Dick!"
1393
00:54:36,641 --> 00:54:38,611
I don't think he knew
who I was, frankly.
1394
00:54:38,643 --> 00:54:40,043
ANNOUNCER:
Cannonball!
1395
00:54:40,077 --> 00:54:43,507
I think I may have known Allan
when I was in New York.
1396
00:54:43,548 --> 00:54:45,048
We formed a very close
working relationship,
1397
00:54:45,082 --> 00:54:47,752
to the point that when
we got a chance to do a movie,
1398
00:54:47,785 --> 00:54:50,415
it was the trailer department's
movie, basically -
1399
00:54:50,455 --> 00:54:51,755
Hollywood Boulevard -
1400
00:54:51,789 --> 00:54:53,559
Which was made up
of sequences from
1401
00:54:53,591 --> 00:54:55,561
a zillion other pictures
that we had done trailers for.
1402
00:54:55,593 --> 00:54:56,893
ANNOUNCER:
Hollywood Boulevard,
1403
00:54:56,927 --> 00:54:58,657
the street where
starlets are made.
1404
00:54:58,696 --> 00:55:00,596
On Monday,
Candy came to Hollywood.
1405
00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:02,531
On Tuesday,
she lost her blouse!
1406
00:55:02,567 --> 00:55:05,397
On Thursday, she massacred
300 rebel soldiers.
1407
00:55:05,436 --> 00:55:06,696
WORONOV:
There they were,
1408
00:55:06,737 --> 00:55:08,467
and they were
the directors,
1409
00:55:08,506 --> 00:55:11,036
and we were told that
they were a team,
1410
00:55:11,075 --> 00:55:14,405
and we were told that this
was a spoof on a Corman movie.
1411
00:55:14,445 --> 00:55:15,575
Cut!
1412
00:55:15,613 --> 00:55:17,523
I don't think they
told Corman that.
1413
00:55:17,548 --> 00:55:19,818
You, fucking fly!
1414
00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:21,990
I kept seeing Dick
Miller everywhere.
1415
00:55:22,019 --> 00:55:23,089
I saw him
in Big Bad Mama,
1416
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,560
I saw him in all the Nurses
movies that he was in.
1417
00:55:25,590 --> 00:55:27,560
He was just a
friend of Roger's
1418
00:55:27,592 --> 00:55:29,092
who kept getting hired
over and over again.
1419
00:55:29,126 --> 00:55:32,656
I guess I met him and worked
with him on Hollywood Boulevard.
1420
00:55:32,697 --> 00:55:35,097
I may have met him in
passing before that.
1421
00:55:35,132 --> 00:55:36,532
But Hollywood Boulevard,
1422
00:55:36,567 --> 00:55:38,697
where he plays Walter Paisley,
1423
00:55:38,736 --> 00:55:40,836
that's where I
spent time with him.
1424
00:55:40,871 --> 00:55:42,971
DICK: It's a nudie picture
with a $2,000 budget.
1425
00:55:43,007 --> 00:55:44,737
No script,
a ten-hour shooting schedule,
1426
00:55:44,775 --> 00:55:47,075
and it opens in 22 cities
at the end of the week.
1427
00:55:47,111 --> 00:55:48,381
You want it
or don't ya?
1428
00:55:48,413 --> 00:55:49,583
I was signed to do this part.
1429
00:55:49,614 --> 00:55:52,724
And the character was named
something and the guys said,
1430
00:55:52,750 --> 00:55:55,390
"Can we change the name
to Walter Paisley?"
1431
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:56,950
I said,
"That's the same name."
1432
00:55:56,987 --> 00:55:58,987
What did you want to
talk to me about, Walter?
1433
00:55:59,023 --> 00:56:01,933
DICK: I believe Joe Dante
said, "Yeah, let's us that."
1434
00:56:01,959 --> 00:56:02,729
Inside gag.
1435
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,660
And that seemed
to be a good idea.
1436
00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:05,955
It's not the same character.
1437
00:56:05,996 --> 00:56:07,526
People say, "Well, that's
the same character."
1438
00:56:07,565 --> 00:56:09,725
No, it's not the
same character -
1439
00:56:09,767 --> 00:56:11,037
just the name is the same.
1440
00:56:11,068 --> 00:56:14,138
So I think it was out of
the Walter Paisely role
1441
00:56:14,171 --> 00:56:16,811
that most of the
affection these
1442
00:56:16,841 --> 00:56:19,641
young directors had for
Dick Miller came.
1443
00:56:19,677 --> 00:56:21,747
You know, we saw
ourselves as giving a leg-up
1444
00:56:21,779 --> 00:56:23,979
to the Walter Paisely's
of the world.
1445
00:56:25,816 --> 00:56:27,746
They were so busy
doing things
1446
00:56:27,785 --> 00:56:29,645
that they'd
never done before,
1447
00:56:29,687 --> 00:56:31,787
like, you know,
looking at sunlight,
1448
00:56:31,822 --> 00:56:34,532
that they didn't pay any
attention to me and Paul.
1449
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,059
And I have a habit
of ad-libbing.
1450
00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:37,063
Your money
or your life.
1451
00:56:37,094 --> 00:56:39,034
No feeling Mary -
"Your money or your life."
1452
00:56:39,063 --> 00:56:41,203
Your money
or your life!
Terrible, Mary.
1453
00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:42,201
Your money
or your life!
1454
00:56:42,232 --> 00:56:44,032
Magnificent,
wonderful...
1455
00:56:44,068 --> 00:56:46,198
GOLDBLATT: The first time
I saw Dick Miller
1456
00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:49,036
was when we shot
the big party scene,
1457
00:56:49,073 --> 00:56:52,183
which takes place at the
end of Hollywood Boulevard.
1458
00:56:52,209 --> 00:56:53,979
You really handle
that trey nice.
1459
00:56:54,011 --> 00:56:55,551
Oh, thank you.
1460
00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:57,880
Actually, I'm not a waiter -
I'm a robot.
1461
00:56:57,915 --> 00:57:00,175
I was a production
assistant.
1462
00:57:00,217 --> 00:57:02,687
This was my
first legitimate
1463
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,190
Hollywood feature job.
1464
00:57:04,221 --> 00:57:06,821
So I saw Dick Miller in a
scene with Robby The Robot.
1465
00:57:06,857 --> 00:57:08,827
500 a piece.
Be reasonable!
1466
00:57:08,859 --> 00:57:10,129
Say, man,
who you tryin' to jive?
1467
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,630
KARASZEWSKI:
There was a period in the 70's
1468
00:57:12,663 --> 00:57:14,163
where he was wearing a
pink jacket all the time.
1469
00:57:14,198 --> 00:57:16,468
So, clearly, he's bringing
his own clothing to the movies.
1470
00:57:16,501 --> 00:57:17,941
So I could say, "It's the guy
with the pink jacket!"
1471
00:57:17,968 --> 00:57:20,098
But I don't know if that
would really help anyone.
1472
00:57:20,137 --> 00:57:22,067
Hi there.
1473
00:57:22,106 --> 00:57:24,776
I'm Joe Littman and
welcome to Guess Word.
1474
00:57:24,809 --> 00:57:26,539
GOTTLIEB:
We had him for a day.
1475
00:57:26,577 --> 00:57:28,077
His wardrobe was
a sports jacket -
1476
00:57:28,112 --> 00:57:30,782
A pink sport jacket
that I guess he owned.
1477
00:57:30,815 --> 00:57:32,245
This is how
he showed up.
1478
00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:33,382
Number 7!
1479
00:57:33,417 --> 00:57:35,887
Karen, that's really very
good for your first spin.
1480
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,020
Hi, Joe.
1481
00:57:37,054 --> 00:57:39,224
Ready for the question from
behind the Magic Hole Board?
1482
00:57:39,256 --> 00:57:40,826
We certainly are.
1483
00:57:40,858 --> 00:57:43,958
This has been in
about ten pictures.
1484
00:57:43,994 --> 00:57:45,704
GOTTLIEB:
And there was a wit there.
1485
00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:47,570
There was an intrinsic wit.
1486
00:57:47,598 --> 00:57:49,568
And probably still is.
1487
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,270
That says
"Death Before Dishonor".
1488
00:57:52,302 --> 00:57:55,942
Oh, I didn't have Death
Before Dishonor put on it.
1489
00:57:55,973 --> 00:57:56,673
[Laughs]
1490
00:57:56,707 --> 00:57:59,137
I figured it's
too much to pay.
1491
00:58:00,044 --> 00:58:01,254
Those Ramones
are peculiar.
1492
00:58:01,278 --> 00:58:05,118
They're ugly,
ugly, ugly people.
1493
00:58:05,149 --> 00:58:07,819
INTERVIEWER:
Did you ad-lib your line?
DICK: Yes.
1494
00:58:07,852 --> 00:58:10,052
I had a long
speech there
1495
00:58:10,087 --> 00:58:12,857
about "Where are they - "
I forget what it was.
1496
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:14,630
But I looked
at these guys
1497
00:58:14,659 --> 00:58:17,129
and I thought,
"They're ugly people!"
1498
00:58:17,161 --> 00:58:19,131
[Laughs]
That's funny.
1499
00:58:19,163 --> 00:58:21,173
I'm sure
he ad-libbed it.
1500
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:25,870
BEYDA: I was there the night
they blew up the high school.
1501
00:58:25,903 --> 00:58:27,173
And Dick was there,
of course,
1502
00:58:27,204 --> 00:58:29,214
and, you know,
Mary Woronov and everybody.
1503
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:31,279
That's probably the first
time I met Dick, actually.
1504
00:58:31,308 --> 00:58:34,608
It was like two in the morning
in South Central LA.
1505
00:58:34,645 --> 00:58:36,245
They gave me the uniform
and they said,
1506
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,080
"Leave your jacket off
until we're ready to shoot."
1507
00:58:39,116 --> 00:58:40,616
I said, "Why?"
1508
00:58:40,651 --> 00:58:41,921
They said,
"You may get killed."
1509
00:58:41,952 --> 00:58:44,292
Whenever there's a part
that I can fit Dick in,
1510
00:58:44,321 --> 00:58:45,991
I try and find
a place for him.
1511
00:58:46,023 --> 00:58:48,293
Well, you know, Piranha
was written by John Sayles
1512
00:58:48,325 --> 00:58:51,895
and he was stuck in the
role of Buck Gardner.
1513
00:58:51,929 --> 00:58:53,559
There were two pictures -
1514
00:58:53,598 --> 00:58:54,898
Rock n Roll High School
and Piranha.
1515
00:58:54,932 --> 00:58:56,202
Rock n Roll High School
1516
00:58:56,233 --> 00:58:58,003
was a much more interesting
subject, I thought,
1517
00:58:58,035 --> 00:58:59,765
but Allan had been
living his whole life
1518
00:58:59,804 --> 00:59:01,114
waiting to do this picture.
1519
00:59:01,138 --> 00:59:03,768
So he got that one and I got
Piranha, the fish story.
1520
00:59:03,808 --> 00:59:05,308
Excuse me,
I'm on the phone.
1521
00:59:05,342 --> 00:59:06,842
But the piranhas...
1522
00:59:06,877 --> 00:59:08,307
I thought I told you not
to even say that word!
1523
00:59:08,345 --> 00:59:09,345
But the piranhas...
1524
00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:10,879
What about the
Goddamn piranhas?!
1525
00:59:10,915 --> 00:59:13,875
They're eating
the guests, sir.
1526
00:59:13,918 --> 00:59:16,918
SAYLES: And I just remember
Dick playing this guy,
1527
00:59:16,954 --> 00:59:18,864
who's trying to
run the whole show,
1528
00:59:18,889 --> 00:59:22,259
and the stupid piranhas come
and start eating the guests
1529
00:59:22,292 --> 00:59:24,632
and mess up
all his plans.
1530
00:59:24,662 --> 00:59:26,332
I met Dick
in Austin, Texas,
1531
00:59:26,363 --> 00:59:28,803
when they were filming
the big scene in Piranha.
1532
00:59:28,833 --> 00:59:30,273
And Joe said, "You gotta
come watch this guy.
1533
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:31,470
He's just great."
1534
00:59:31,501 --> 00:59:35,011
Look, I want all incoming
calls switched directly to me.
1535
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:37,009
I blew that. I know it.
It stinks.
1536
00:59:37,041 --> 00:59:38,741
BALASKI:
He's so fast,
1537
00:59:38,776 --> 00:59:40,946
and he's so furious,
and he's so delicious!
1538
00:59:40,978 --> 00:59:43,948
In a lot of his roles
he has something like that -
1539
00:59:43,981 --> 00:59:46,081
Which is basically a
straight part, in a way.
1540
00:59:46,116 --> 00:59:48,816
But he understands
the tone of the movie
1541
00:59:48,853 --> 00:59:50,993
and so it ends up
being very funny.
1542
00:59:51,021 --> 00:59:52,891
He doesn't have
punch lines, per se,
1543
00:59:52,923 --> 00:59:55,793
but it ends up being
a funny performance.
1544
00:59:55,826 --> 00:59:57,086
Schmuck...
1545
00:59:57,127 --> 00:59:58,797
Joe was a great
mentor to me.
1546
00:59:58,829 --> 01:00:00,099
I noticed that both of us
1547
01:00:00,130 --> 01:00:01,870
and some of our friends
like Jon Davison,
1548
01:00:01,899 --> 01:00:03,069
Allan Arkush,
1549
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,340
also loved
genre pictures.
1550
01:00:05,369 --> 01:00:07,169
And Dick was right there.
1551
01:00:07,204 --> 01:00:08,944
Piranhas!
Jeez...
1552
01:00:08,973 --> 01:00:11,083
Dick was making the movies
that we were watching
1553
01:00:11,108 --> 01:00:13,138
that were driving us
insane with delight.
1554
01:00:13,177 --> 01:00:15,377
LAINIE: Actually,
all of these kids
1555
01:00:15,412 --> 01:00:17,752
that came up with
Roger Corman...
1556
01:00:17,782 --> 01:00:19,352
When they grew
beyond that
1557
01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:20,853
and went to
the studio level,
1558
01:00:20,885 --> 01:00:23,345
they gave Dick
his third career...
1559
01:00:23,387 --> 01:00:27,187
[**]
1560
01:00:27,224 --> 01:00:29,694
FORSTER: Well, the first thing
most people don't know -
1561
01:00:29,727 --> 01:00:31,857
certainly I didn't know
when I started -
1562
01:00:31,896 --> 01:00:34,396
was that there are
this many of us
1563
01:00:34,431 --> 01:00:36,971
and that many jobs.
1564
01:00:37,001 --> 01:00:39,941
Every one of those jobs
is politically given.
1565
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:42,010
You don't have a
batting average.
1566
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:44,269
You can't walk in and say,
"Look, I bat 350.
1567
01:00:44,308 --> 01:00:46,738
Put me in the line-up."
No, no, no.
1568
01:00:46,777 --> 01:00:48,677
Somebody who likes
you has got to say,
1569
01:00:48,713 --> 01:00:50,883
"No, no, Dick Miller is the
right guy for this one."
1570
01:00:50,915 --> 01:00:52,875
Or, "Bob Forster is the
right guy that part.
1571
01:00:52,917 --> 01:00:53,817
We want him."
1572
01:00:53,851 --> 01:00:55,751
ANNOUNCER: We return now
to Divorce Court.
1573
01:00:55,786 --> 01:00:57,146
Being sworn in
is Jim Breen,
1574
01:00:57,187 --> 01:00:59,157
testifying on the behalf
of Walter Higgins.
1575
01:00:59,189 --> 01:01:00,929
Well, Walter and me
used to be partners
1576
01:01:00,958 --> 01:01:03,428
and we've been friends
for nigh on 40 years now.
1577
01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:05,400
I think maybe
I first became aware
1578
01:01:05,429 --> 01:01:07,029
of Dick Miller
at breakfast.
1579
01:01:07,064 --> 01:01:09,374
There was a breakfast
place that I went to.
1580
01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:12,769
And Dick Miller -
if he wasn't working -
1581
01:01:12,803 --> 01:01:14,773
he was sittin' there
every single day.
1582
01:01:14,805 --> 01:01:16,835
We all met
at this place
1583
01:01:16,874 --> 01:01:18,914
about 10:30
in the morning.
1584
01:01:18,943 --> 01:01:21,853
We had a pretty good
group of people -
1585
01:01:21,879 --> 01:01:23,449
Robert Forster,
1586
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,980
Dick, and I...
1587
01:01:25,015 --> 01:01:26,775
Every day, he would
eat the same thing.
1588
01:01:26,817 --> 01:01:28,287
It would be
a scoop of tuna
1589
01:01:28,318 --> 01:01:30,918
with chopped up onions on it,
or egg salad.
1590
01:01:30,955 --> 01:01:32,255
Well, Harry was a
part of the group.
1591
01:01:32,289 --> 01:01:33,919
I know a lot of
stories about him.
1592
01:01:33,958 --> 01:01:36,058
I don't know if he's told
any of these stories.
1593
01:01:36,093 --> 01:01:38,363
DICK: There was a picture
called White Dog.
1594
01:01:38,395 --> 01:01:40,195
And they said,
"Sam Fuller's gonna direct."
1595
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:42,270
And I said, "Gee, I'd like to
get in on that."
1596
01:01:42,299 --> 01:01:44,029
Jon Davison was
the producer.
1597
01:01:44,068 --> 01:01:45,468
He says,
"You go down there.
1598
01:01:45,502 --> 01:01:47,072
The guy's got
a monkey for ya."
1599
01:01:47,104 --> 01:01:48,344
He says,
"He's your monkey.
1600
01:01:48,372 --> 01:01:50,212
He's a nice little guy.
Weighs about 30 pounds.
1601
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,780
In the event that he
starts to bite ya -"
1602
01:01:52,810 --> 01:01:54,080
I said, "What?"
1603
01:01:54,111 --> 01:01:55,751
He says, "No, no,
it's not bad.
1604
01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:57,080
He'll just nibble
on you a little."
1605
01:01:57,114 --> 01:01:58,854
"I ain't gonna work with
no monkey that nibbles."
1606
01:01:58,883 --> 01:02:01,353
He says, "Just listen to me.
It works -
1607
01:02:01,385 --> 01:02:02,815
Bite the monkey."
1608
01:02:02,853 --> 01:02:05,193
Up this road,
on the right, is the arena.
1609
01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:07,122
The monkey starts
nibbling on me...
1610
01:02:07,157 --> 01:02:09,127
I say, "Stop it!
Cut that out!
1611
01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:10,959
Don't do that!
Stop it!"
1612
01:02:10,995 --> 01:02:12,995
The monkey looks
up at me like that.
1613
01:02:13,030 --> 01:02:14,330
I got it whipped.
1614
01:02:14,364 --> 01:02:16,104
Leave it up to me -
I know what I'm doin'.
1615
01:02:16,133 --> 01:02:17,503
And they said, "Alright,
get ready for the retakes."
1616
01:02:17,534 --> 01:02:18,644
I said, "What retakes?"
1617
01:02:18,668 --> 01:02:22,038
He says, "Look at you -
The monkey peed all over ya!"
1618
01:02:22,072 --> 01:02:23,512
We get into -
1619
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:26,040
I changed my clothes
by the way.
1620
01:02:26,076 --> 01:02:28,006
All of a sudden,
the monkey's biting on my wrist.
1621
01:02:28,045 --> 01:02:29,475
He's tearing me up!
1622
01:02:29,513 --> 01:02:31,853
"Will you do what I say?
Just bite the monkey.
1623
01:02:31,882 --> 01:02:33,152
We're gonna do this
scene once more.
1624
01:02:33,183 --> 01:02:34,553
Go change your clothes."
1625
01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:36,094
I said, "What?!
1626
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,090
The monkey - you should
pardon the expression -
1627
01:02:38,122 --> 01:02:40,092
crapped on me."
1628
01:02:40,124 --> 01:02:41,564
The monkey
starts nibbling,
1629
01:02:41,591 --> 01:02:43,861
the guy's in the
background going,
1630
01:02:43,894 --> 01:02:46,204
"Bite the monkey!"
1631
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:48,370
And I bite the
monkey on the neck.
1632
01:02:48,398 --> 01:02:49,868
We finished the scene.
1633
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:51,570
The monkey never
laid a hand on me.
1634
01:02:51,601 --> 01:02:53,371
I go outside to
find Jon Davison.
1635
01:02:53,403 --> 01:02:54,873
"You fixed me up good!
1636
01:02:54,905 --> 01:02:56,365
I got a monkey
that pees on me,
1637
01:02:56,406 --> 01:02:58,006
that craps on me."
1638
01:02:58,042 --> 01:03:00,312
And he says,
"The legend lives!"
1639
01:03:00,344 --> 01:03:02,484
So there's two things
that I learned
1640
01:03:02,512 --> 01:03:05,352
about this business...
1641
01:03:05,382 --> 01:03:08,352
One - The legend,
which is me, lives...
1642
01:03:08,385 --> 01:03:11,015
And two - Whenever you
think you know something,
1643
01:03:11,055 --> 01:03:13,015
there's always somebody
who knows
1644
01:03:13,057 --> 01:03:15,527
a little bit more
about it than you.
1645
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:17,929
"Bite the monkey!"
[Chuckle]
1646
01:03:17,962 --> 01:03:19,932
Well, as the years went by,
1647
01:03:19,964 --> 01:03:22,304
and Dick took on this
sort of iconic status,
1648
01:03:22,332 --> 01:03:25,902
his mere presence sort of
became self-referential.
1649
01:03:25,936 --> 01:03:28,036
And I think
probably the key person
1650
01:03:28,072 --> 01:03:29,912
responsible for this
is Joe Dante,
1651
01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:31,310
who him in every one
of his pictures.
1652
01:03:31,341 --> 01:03:33,981
Please, you gonna
purchase, purchase.
1653
01:03:34,011 --> 01:03:35,981
Now leave 'em alone,
you'll get 'em greasy.
1654
01:03:36,013 --> 01:03:37,383
HORA: The first day
on The Howling
1655
01:03:37,414 --> 01:03:39,384
was when we did Dick's
scene in the shop,
1656
01:03:39,416 --> 01:03:41,186
where he has
the silver bullets.
1657
01:03:41,218 --> 01:03:43,388
And I just thought it
was a magical scene.
1658
01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:45,390
Your classic werewolf can
change shape any time it wants.
1659
01:03:45,422 --> 01:03:47,062
Day or night - Whenever
it takes a notion to 'em.
1660
01:03:47,091 --> 01:03:48,561
That's why they call
'em shapeshifters.
1661
01:03:48,592 --> 01:03:50,062
I got a dozen
books on it.
1662
01:03:50,094 --> 01:03:51,934
BALASKI: I love the
book store scene,
1663
01:03:51,962 --> 01:03:54,202
because, to me,
this is a packed scene.
1664
01:03:54,231 --> 01:03:56,871
How to survive
a packed scene -
1665
01:03:56,901 --> 01:03:58,201
that's a whole
other issue!
1666
01:03:58,235 --> 01:04:00,335
He's the perfect person
to own a store
1667
01:04:00,370 --> 01:04:03,040
that sells curios
and odd ball things,
1668
01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:04,613
because he doesn't really
believe any of it.
1669
01:04:04,641 --> 01:04:06,141
But he'll sell anything.
1670
01:04:06,176 --> 01:04:07,606
What am I, an idiot?
I'm makin' a buck here.
1671
01:04:07,644 --> 01:04:09,084
You want books?
I got books.
1672
01:04:09,113 --> 01:04:10,483
I didn't write it
specifically for Dick,
1673
01:04:10,514 --> 01:04:13,154
but in Joe's mind,
it was a Dick Miller-type guy -
1674
01:04:13,183 --> 01:04:14,623
"And I know I can get Dick!"
1675
01:04:14,651 --> 01:04:15,891
They say he steals
every scene.
1676
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,420
The Manson people used to hang
out around here and shoplift...
1677
01:04:18,455 --> 01:04:19,955
Buncha deadbeats!
1678
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:21,290
So I think it's
a good thing
1679
01:04:21,325 --> 01:04:23,225
it was only one scene
we had together.
1680
01:04:23,260 --> 01:04:26,130
I have no idea how much of
the dialog is John Sayles
1681
01:04:26,163 --> 01:04:29,033
or how much of it was
embroidered by Dick.
1682
01:04:29,066 --> 01:04:31,936
You just know that
no one can pack 30 seconds
1683
01:04:31,969 --> 01:04:33,469
with as many words
as he can.
1684
01:04:33,503 --> 01:04:35,343
I take Bank of America
Card, American Express, Visa.
1685
01:04:35,372 --> 01:04:37,012
You gonna buy that
or what?
1686
01:04:37,041 --> 01:04:38,511
In the early 1980's,
1687
01:04:38,542 --> 01:04:40,142
Joe Dante was a guy
1688
01:04:40,177 --> 01:04:41,947
that we really
looked up to.
1689
01:04:41,979 --> 01:04:43,249
And I think that
during the 80s' -
1690
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,480
particularly
the Spielberg years,
1691
01:04:45,515 --> 01:04:47,175
where everything
was sort of sweet -
1692
01:04:47,217 --> 01:04:49,347
Joe came in there,
particularly with Gremlins.
1693
01:04:49,386 --> 01:04:52,986
He just really took that
archetype and really twisted it.
1694
01:04:53,023 --> 01:04:54,993
When I first
saw Gremlins,
1695
01:04:55,025 --> 01:04:56,285
the movie,
1696
01:04:56,326 --> 01:04:58,296
Phoebe and I -
I think we were both like,
1697
01:04:58,328 --> 01:05:00,498
"What did we just see?"
1698
01:05:02,366 --> 01:05:04,466
FELDMAN: You never know
what's gonna hit
1699
01:05:04,501 --> 01:05:05,471
and what's not.
1700
01:05:05,502 --> 01:05:07,342
You never know what's
going to be a success
1701
01:05:07,371 --> 01:05:09,141
in this business
and what's not,
1702
01:05:09,173 --> 01:05:11,043
what will have sustainability
and a life after,
1703
01:05:11,075 --> 01:05:12,535
and all that
sort of thing.
1704
01:05:12,576 --> 01:05:13,636
With Gremlins,
we knew.
1705
01:05:13,677 --> 01:05:15,477
All of Gremlins,
for me,
1706
01:05:15,512 --> 01:05:17,252
was madness.
1707
01:05:17,281 --> 01:05:19,451
We had a tremendous amount
of technical challenges
1708
01:05:19,483 --> 01:05:22,453
on stuff that
I had never done before.
1709
01:05:22,486 --> 01:05:25,086
The puppet part was
really, really hard.
1710
01:05:25,122 --> 01:05:27,022
It was a nightmare
working with these puppets.
1711
01:05:27,057 --> 01:05:28,957
WALAS:
Everything about it was insane.
1712
01:05:28,993 --> 01:05:31,033
Everything about it was wrong.
1713
01:05:31,061 --> 01:05:34,331
Just staring at
these puppets -
1714
01:05:34,364 --> 01:05:38,044
That was the most
tedious...
1715
01:05:38,068 --> 01:05:39,998
boring...
1716
01:05:40,037 --> 01:05:41,607
vile footage
1717
01:05:41,638 --> 01:05:43,538
I have ever lived with.
1718
01:05:43,573 --> 01:05:45,113
On an hourly basis,
1719
01:05:45,142 --> 01:05:47,042
I just kept questioning
my sanity
1720
01:05:47,077 --> 01:05:49,077
for taking the project
in the first place.
1721
01:05:49,113 --> 01:05:50,413
Gremlins...
1722
01:05:50,447 --> 01:05:52,077
DEL VALLE:
If ever there was a movie
1723
01:05:52,116 --> 01:05:54,986
that brought the Wizard of Oz
vibe to a movie,
1724
01:05:55,019 --> 01:05:56,319
it was Gremlins.
1725
01:05:56,353 --> 01:05:57,993
It was a
Christmas movie,
1726
01:05:58,022 --> 01:05:59,462
it had a
Wicked Witch...
1727
01:05:59,489 --> 01:06:01,229
Deposit this
to my account.
1728
01:06:01,258 --> 01:06:03,728
And there was
Dick Miller...
1729
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,560
There was someone
that anchored
1730
01:06:05,595 --> 01:06:08,725
the movie in our
childhood nostalgia.
1731
01:06:08,765 --> 01:06:10,725
W-W-eye-eye.
1732
01:06:10,767 --> 01:06:12,467
When we made Gremlins,
1733
01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:15,172
I didn't know there were any
difficulties at all making this.
1734
01:06:15,205 --> 01:06:17,365
See that plow?
15 years old.
1735
01:06:17,407 --> 01:06:19,377
Hasn't given me a
day's trouble in 15 years.
1736
01:06:19,409 --> 01:06:21,379
You know why?
Kentucky Harvester.
1737
01:06:21,411 --> 01:06:23,481
I think I was
brought in,
1738
01:06:23,513 --> 01:06:25,453
and they just said,
"Hello,
1739
01:06:25,482 --> 01:06:27,452
we'd love to have you
in our picture."
1740
01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:29,454
You have
the thingy.
Huh?
1741
01:06:29,486 --> 01:06:32,116
DICK: Jackie Joseph was
my wife in so many things,
1742
01:06:32,156 --> 01:06:34,416
I thought I was
married to her!
1743
01:06:36,593 --> 01:06:38,603
JACKIE JOSEPH: Knowing
I was working with Dick,
1744
01:06:38,628 --> 01:06:41,498
I think these wonderful
producers and director
1745
01:06:41,531 --> 01:06:44,071
just thought, "Wouldn't it
be funny to work with
1746
01:06:44,101 --> 01:06:46,601
those people from
Little Shop of Horrors?"
1747
01:06:46,636 --> 01:06:50,266
Murray, did you hear
from the noodle factory?
1748
01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:52,607
Sheila, the noodle factory
is not gonna re-open.
1749
01:06:52,642 --> 01:06:55,112
HORA: I really like
the Futtermans.
1750
01:06:55,145 --> 01:06:57,105
They're totally
believable.
1751
01:06:57,147 --> 01:06:59,447
And limited as they are,
I understand them.
1752
01:06:59,483 --> 01:07:02,453
INTERVIEWER: Are you at all
like Murray Futterman?
No.
1753
01:07:02,486 --> 01:07:05,656
Murray Futterman is a
man who makes mistakes...
1754
01:07:07,657 --> 01:07:09,257
Errors.
1755
01:07:09,293 --> 01:07:10,833
I'm perfect.
1756
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:13,130
But he's a guy who's
set in his ways.
1757
01:07:13,163 --> 01:07:15,173
Ah...
1758
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:17,169
Well, maybe.
1759
01:07:17,201 --> 01:07:19,171
I'm set in some ways.
1760
01:07:19,203 --> 01:07:21,813
What?
See, the dog knows.
1761
01:07:21,838 --> 01:07:23,508
DANTE: The critical reaction
was surprisingly good.
1762
01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:25,280
I mean, it really
put me on the map.
1763
01:07:25,309 --> 01:07:27,279
Suddenly, I was this
person made a movie
1764
01:07:27,311 --> 01:07:28,611
that got pretty
good reviews,
1765
01:07:28,645 --> 01:07:31,275
because it was weird and
also made a lot of money.
1766
01:07:31,315 --> 01:07:33,815
So it was like,
"OK, put him on that list."
1767
01:07:33,850 --> 01:07:36,650
I stayed on that list until
my next picture came out.
1768
01:07:36,686 --> 01:07:39,686
Then
I went off that list. [Laughs]
1769
01:07:39,723 --> 01:07:43,363
WOMAN: [Screams]
Look out behind you!
1770
01:07:43,393 --> 01:07:45,163
MAN:
It came out of the screen!
1771
01:07:45,195 --> 01:07:46,455
HIRSCH:
What I see in his films
1772
01:07:46,496 --> 01:07:49,296
is this quality that
I call "density".
1773
01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:51,703
It's different from a
lot of people's work.
1774
01:07:51,735 --> 01:07:53,695
One of the things
about Joe Dante's movies
1775
01:07:53,737 --> 01:07:57,437
that's pretty consistent
is that his movies
1776
01:07:57,474 --> 01:08:01,114
are all love letters
to movies.
1777
01:08:01,145 --> 01:08:02,645
I don't know -
1778
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:05,249
Somehow he just manages
to capture
1779
01:08:05,282 --> 01:08:07,382
the love of
and the fun of
1780
01:08:07,417 --> 01:08:09,247
these genre movies
1781
01:08:09,286 --> 01:08:10,746
in a way that
nobody else really can.
1782
01:08:10,787 --> 01:08:12,517
One of my favorite
Dick Miller scenes
1783
01:08:12,556 --> 01:08:15,726
in the Joe Dante oeuvre
is his scene in Explorers.
1784
01:08:17,527 --> 01:08:20,227
Look man, I've been having
dreams about this lately and -
1785
01:08:20,264 --> 01:08:22,434
Yes, really!
1786
01:08:24,268 --> 01:08:25,868
The weird thing is...
1787
01:08:25,902 --> 01:08:28,572
I haven't had dreams like this
since I was a kid.
1788
01:08:28,605 --> 01:08:30,365
You know,
he's the helicopter pilot,
1789
01:08:30,407 --> 01:08:33,407
and when he discovers
what the kids have done,
1790
01:08:33,443 --> 01:08:36,753
and you get the sense that
was a childhood dream of his
1791
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,350
that they have realized.
1792
01:08:38,382 --> 01:08:40,622
In all of his movies that
center on young characters,
1793
01:08:40,650 --> 01:08:43,890
there's always a feeling
that the movie is also
1794
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,360
gratifying for an adult
looking back and remembering
1795
01:08:47,391 --> 01:08:50,531
that part of
their own life.
1796
01:08:53,597 --> 01:08:55,767
No way - Wednesday night,
I'm on a league.
1797
01:08:55,799 --> 01:08:58,199
This seminar can
change your life, Vic.
1798
01:08:58,235 --> 01:09:00,165
The man is
a great healer.
1799
01:09:00,204 --> 01:09:01,514
And I'm a
great bowler!
1800
01:09:01,538 --> 01:09:04,508
There was a lot of
ad-libbing in The 'Burbs.
1801
01:09:04,541 --> 01:09:06,781
Joe would just let the
camera keep running,
1802
01:09:06,810 --> 01:09:09,480
and when the actors
finished the scripted lines,
1803
01:09:09,513 --> 01:09:11,223
they would
just kind of go.
1804
01:09:11,248 --> 01:09:15,388
It had a wonderful cast with
Tom Hanks and Carrie Fischer.
1805
01:09:15,419 --> 01:09:18,719
And the scene with Dick
was just hilarious.
1806
01:09:18,755 --> 01:09:20,885
What the hell is wrong
with these people?
1807
01:09:20,924 --> 01:09:22,534
He has a right
to know, Vic.
1808
01:09:22,559 --> 01:09:24,229
Don't start up
with me!
1809
01:09:24,261 --> 01:09:26,231
STEVENS:
It was the type of scene where
1810
01:09:26,263 --> 01:09:28,533
he could control the situation.
1811
01:09:28,565 --> 01:09:30,525
I think Joe Dante
gave him a lot of leeway
1812
01:09:30,567 --> 01:09:32,537
as to how
he would go with it.
1813
01:09:32,569 --> 01:09:34,239
When I first met Dick,
1814
01:09:34,271 --> 01:09:35,671
I really didn't know
anything about him
1815
01:09:35,705 --> 01:09:37,805
other than
that he was an actor
1816
01:09:37,841 --> 01:09:39,681
that Joe really
loved to work with.
1817
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:41,679
The irony is, for all the
movies that we're together,
1818
01:09:41,711 --> 01:09:45,351
we only really share
the screen in The 'Burbs.
1819
01:09:45,382 --> 01:09:47,822
Look, I don't want any
of your bullshit either!
1820
01:09:47,851 --> 01:09:50,491
The question here is garbage
and who picks up this mess!
1821
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,360
I was pretty reckless
by that point.
1822
01:09:52,389 --> 01:09:54,519
I know that I was
smoking weed on the set.
1823
01:09:54,558 --> 01:09:55,958
I remember being
in my trailer,
1824
01:09:55,992 --> 01:09:58,662
and I was friends with
Sam Kinison, the comedian.
1825
01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:00,325
I'd open the door
and there would just be
1826
01:10:00,364 --> 01:10:01,834
weed bellowing out of it.
1827
01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:02,825
He was a
smart-ass kid.
1828
01:10:02,866 --> 01:10:04,966
* What else could you
do with those hooves? *
1829
01:10:05,001 --> 01:10:07,671
Shut the fuck up, kid.
We're trying to do some acting.
1830
01:10:07,704 --> 01:10:09,714
FELDMAN:
"I don't have a problem.
1831
01:10:09,739 --> 01:10:12,379
I'm good. I'm fine.
What are you talking about?"
1832
01:10:12,409 --> 01:10:13,639
DANTE: It was shot
during a writer's strike,
1833
01:10:13,677 --> 01:10:17,007
so I decided that we would shoot
it on the Universal back lot,
1834
01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:18,646
where it would be
a little stylized
1835
01:10:18,682 --> 01:10:20,582
and wouldn't
look too real.
1836
01:10:20,617 --> 01:10:22,287
We could shoot
in sequence.
1837
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:23,719
And then, if people
wanted to improv,
1838
01:10:23,753 --> 01:10:24,723
it would be OK,
1839
01:10:24,754 --> 01:10:26,594
because we wouldn't be
affecting the ending,
1840
01:10:26,623 --> 01:10:28,363
because we'd be doing
it in sequence...
1841
01:10:28,392 --> 01:10:29,862
All of you,
go to hell!
1842
01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:31,463
Cut!
[Laughing]
1843
01:10:31,495 --> 01:10:32,755
DANTE:
It seems odd,
1844
01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:34,596
but that picture got
the worst reviews
1845
01:10:34,631 --> 01:10:36,271
of any picture
I ever did.
1846
01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:37,770
Yet, I'd go to
dentists offices
1847
01:10:37,801 --> 01:10:39,601
and people would say,
"You did The 'Burbs?
1848
01:10:39,636 --> 01:10:41,506
You made the The 'Burbs?
Oh, I love that movie!"
1849
01:10:41,538 --> 01:10:43,338
MAN: They're playing
this thing on Saturday,
1850
01:10:43,373 --> 01:10:45,343
unless you people
stop them!
1851
01:10:45,375 --> 01:10:46,775
Ask the people that
run this theatre.
1852
01:10:46,810 --> 01:10:48,580
Ask 'em why they're
sailing this town's kids -
1853
01:10:48,612 --> 01:10:49,882
your kids -
down the river.
1854
01:10:49,913 --> 01:10:52,583
HARVEY: I think my
favorite Dick Miller role,
1855
01:10:52,616 --> 01:10:55,886
of the movies
I've worked on, was in Matinee.
1856
01:10:55,919 --> 01:10:58,989
I'm Lawrence Woolsey,
who are you fellas?
1857
01:10:59,022 --> 01:11:01,662
We're from Citizens for Decent
Entertainment, Mr. Woolsey.
1858
01:11:01,691 --> 01:11:04,331
He was teamed up
with John Sayles...
1859
01:11:04,361 --> 01:11:05,361
I don't know.
1860
01:11:05,395 --> 01:11:06,855
You'd have to ask
Joe about this.
1861
01:11:06,896 --> 01:11:10,026
I think he was thinking
that I'm 6 foot 4,
1862
01:11:10,066 --> 01:11:11,636
and Dick's not.
1863
01:11:11,668 --> 01:11:13,498
HARVEY: And they played
the two hucksters
1864
01:11:13,537 --> 01:11:15,637
that have been
hired covertly
1865
01:11:15,672 --> 01:11:17,612
by Lawrence Woolsey
1866
01:11:17,641 --> 01:11:19,941
to drum up
controversy
1867
01:11:19,976 --> 01:11:21,906
over Woolsey's movies.
1868
01:11:21,945 --> 01:11:23,975
Well, this was a movie
that was close my heart,
1869
01:11:24,013 --> 01:11:26,553
in that I was the age
of the kids in the movie
1870
01:11:26,583 --> 01:11:28,753
when the Cuban Missile
Crisis happened.
1871
01:11:31,355 --> 01:11:33,015
And if you
weren't there,
1872
01:11:33,056 --> 01:11:34,756
it's hard to explain
to people
1873
01:11:34,791 --> 01:11:36,961
how tense an
atmosphere it was.
1874
01:11:38,795 --> 01:11:41,695
HARVEY: I think of all
the things in Matinee
1875
01:11:41,731 --> 01:11:45,401
that are probably
autobiographical for Joe,
1876
01:11:45,435 --> 01:11:46,665
that's the moment.
1877
01:11:46,703 --> 01:11:48,473
I can see Joe as a kid,
1878
01:11:48,505 --> 01:11:50,405
watching these
Corman movies,
1879
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:52,510
and going home
and thumbing through
1880
01:11:52,542 --> 01:11:55,582
his Famous Monsters
of Filmland Magazines
1881
01:11:55,612 --> 01:11:57,382
and figuring out,
1882
01:11:57,414 --> 01:11:59,384
"Oh, wait a minute!
This guy!"
1883
01:11:59,416 --> 01:12:01,046
And it may be,
out of all the movies
1884
01:12:01,084 --> 01:12:02,554
that Dick Miller's been in,
1885
01:12:02,586 --> 01:12:04,346
I think that may be
the only time
1886
01:12:04,388 --> 01:12:06,688
he actually
played an actor.
1887
01:12:06,723 --> 01:12:08,563
I think, if you look back
at all directors,
1888
01:12:08,592 --> 01:12:09,932
and you look at
their filmographies,
1889
01:12:09,959 --> 01:12:11,929
you see the same actors
popping up in all the movies.
1890
01:12:11,961 --> 01:12:14,431
And so I did end
up with a somewhat
1891
01:12:14,464 --> 01:12:16,634
Preston Sturges -
Ingmar Bergman -
1892
01:12:16,666 --> 01:12:18,566
John Ford-type
group of people
1893
01:12:18,602 --> 01:12:21,572
that appear incessantly
in my movies.
1894
01:12:21,605 --> 01:12:24,065
Sometimes in smaller
parts, sometimes in big parts.
1895
01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:25,577
The great thing about Dick
1896
01:12:25,609 --> 01:12:27,579
is that he comes
from this tradition
1897
01:12:27,611 --> 01:12:30,881
where you can be memorable
in one scene in a movie,
1898
01:12:30,914 --> 01:12:33,954
or you can have the
second or third lead -
1899
01:12:33,983 --> 01:12:35,793
either one is OK.
1900
01:12:35,819 --> 01:12:37,949
It's always a pleasure to
work with someone like that,
1901
01:12:37,987 --> 01:12:39,457
editorially.
1902
01:12:39,489 --> 01:12:40,889
Because you don't have to
look for choices
1903
01:12:40,924 --> 01:12:44,094
to make something work,
'cause he's right there.
1904
01:12:46,095 --> 01:12:47,895
Lobby!
1905
01:12:47,931 --> 01:12:50,071
Don't mess with
Murray Futterman!
1906
01:12:50,099 --> 01:12:54,499
[**]
1907
01:12:54,538 --> 01:12:57,408
Many people who know
Dick through Roger,
1908
01:12:57,441 --> 01:12:59,741
and who know Dick
through Joe,
1909
01:12:59,776 --> 01:13:01,746
call up and ask
if Dick
1910
01:13:01,778 --> 01:13:04,008
will be in
their movies.
1911
01:13:04,047 --> 01:13:05,517
Hi, Walt.
1912
01:13:05,549 --> 01:13:07,519
Well, well, well,
Detective Cameron.
1913
01:13:07,551 --> 01:13:08,851
Son of a gun.
Is that really you?
1914
01:13:08,885 --> 01:13:10,485
Yeah, it's me alright,
Walt.
1915
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,490
How's about you?
Hey, can't complain.
1916
01:13:12,522 --> 01:13:13,922
Cannot complain,
Raymond.
1917
01:13:13,957 --> 01:13:15,727
I never considered
anybody else.
1918
01:13:15,759 --> 01:13:17,889
I wrote this police
armourer character
1919
01:13:17,927 --> 01:13:19,597
and said, "Well, that's
gonna be Dick Miller."
1920
01:13:19,629 --> 01:13:21,869
Flamethrower?
Flamethrower!?
1921
01:13:21,898 --> 01:13:23,698
Yeah!
1922
01:13:23,733 --> 01:13:25,503
Flamethrower, Jesus!
1923
01:13:25,535 --> 01:13:27,465
I think it plays to
a general audience,
1924
01:13:27,504 --> 01:13:29,944
but it helps if you're
a movie buff.
1925
01:13:29,973 --> 01:13:33,113
Most of the people who
really love this movie
1926
01:13:33,142 --> 01:13:34,842
and revisit it,
1927
01:13:34,878 --> 01:13:36,748
particularly in the
last couple of years,
1928
01:13:36,780 --> 01:13:38,780
know who he is
and instantly see him.
1929
01:13:38,815 --> 01:13:40,775
And he generally gets
a round of applause
1930
01:13:40,817 --> 01:13:42,687
just for being in
the goddamn thing.
1931
01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:44,689
By the way, you gotta
watch out for this baby.
1932
01:13:44,721 --> 01:13:45,961
Once you light the pilot,
1933
01:13:45,989 --> 01:13:48,529
it goes out and it plays hard
to get like a son of a bitch.
1934
01:13:48,558 --> 01:13:50,688
You looking
for somethin'?
1935
01:13:51,528 --> 01:13:53,998
Yeah, I wanted
to use the phone...
1936
01:13:55,832 --> 01:13:57,672
AVIS:
We had a cop car.
1937
01:13:57,701 --> 01:14:01,001
We used to go out on weekends
with the cop car,
1938
01:14:01,037 --> 01:14:04,007
pull over crew members
who were driving drunk.
1939
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,510
Not because Dick wanted
to be in character,
1940
01:14:06,543 --> 01:14:08,713
but just because
it was hilarious.
1941
01:14:10,547 --> 01:14:12,247
Having someone
like that on set,
1942
01:14:12,281 --> 01:14:13,821
who you can ask
questions to,
1943
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:16,220
or they'll just give you
a wink and say "Try that."
1944
01:14:16,252 --> 01:14:18,152
Because,
a lot of the time,
1945
01:14:18,187 --> 01:14:21,527
you don't want to let actors
tell you how to direct.
1946
01:14:21,558 --> 01:14:23,058
'Cause once you open that door,
1947
01:14:23,092 --> 01:14:26,462
next thing they're all over you
with their suggestions.
1948
01:14:28,798 --> 01:14:30,098
INTERVIEWER:
Could you talk to us about
1949
01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:33,773
some of the TV episodes
that Dick has directed?
1950
01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:36,743
You know, IMDB has it wrong.
1951
01:14:36,773 --> 01:14:39,143
He has not directed anything.
1952
01:14:39,175 --> 01:14:41,745
There was somebody with
the same name who has.
1953
01:14:41,778 --> 01:14:44,578
He hasn't directed anything
on an official basis -
1954
01:14:44,614 --> 01:14:46,224
let me just put it that way.
1955
01:14:46,249 --> 01:14:48,719
It's dusty, Dick!
1956
01:14:48,752 --> 01:14:50,522
You remember him?
1957
01:14:50,554 --> 01:14:51,964
Do I?
Yes.
1958
01:14:51,988 --> 01:14:54,058
I'm lucky I remember
who you are!
1959
01:14:54,090 --> 01:14:56,630
OLEN RAY:
Dick's a working actor.
1960
01:14:56,660 --> 01:14:59,930
That equalizes out
to all of the films
1961
01:14:59,963 --> 01:15:03,603
that you may say here or there
are questionable choices.
1962
01:15:03,633 --> 01:15:05,233
Oh my God!
1963
01:15:05,268 --> 01:15:07,898
OLEN RAY: He didn't like
the way he died in Evil Toons.
1964
01:15:07,937 --> 01:15:10,107
He said it was
very humiliating.
1965
01:15:11,975 --> 01:15:14,805
You clumsy sonavabitch!
Look what ya did!
1966
01:15:14,844 --> 01:15:16,814
I outta turn you into
scrap metal for this.
1967
01:15:16,846 --> 01:15:19,146
Whenever these young directors
1968
01:15:19,182 --> 01:15:21,152
reference nostalgia,
1969
01:15:21,184 --> 01:15:23,654
they get Dick Miller.
1970
01:15:23,687 --> 01:15:26,987
And Chopping Mall
was no different...
1971
01:15:27,023 --> 01:15:29,193
ROBOT: Thank you.
Have a nice day.
1972
01:15:34,798 --> 01:15:36,098
In the past few years,
1973
01:15:36,132 --> 01:15:38,972
we've been doing a few
of the conventions.
1974
01:15:42,672 --> 01:15:45,312
INTERVIEWER: Do you have fun
going to these conventions?
Sometimes.
1975
01:15:45,341 --> 01:15:47,541
Seeing your friends?
What friends?
1976
01:15:52,816 --> 01:15:55,046
LAINIE: It's so funny,
because you have people
1977
01:15:55,084 --> 01:15:57,724
coming with kids
in strollers -
1978
01:15:57,754 --> 01:15:59,924
"Remember, that's the
guy that the Gremlins
1979
01:15:59,956 --> 01:16:02,126
ran over with
the snow plow!"
1980
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,700
SADLER: You wouldn't happen
to know of a place around here
1981
01:16:05,729 --> 01:16:07,699
where I can bed down
for the night, would ya'?
1982
01:16:07,731 --> 01:16:09,601
Well, it just so
happens I do...
1983
01:16:09,633 --> 01:16:11,603
That's one of my
favorite parts -
1984
01:16:11,635 --> 01:16:13,235
was Demon Knight.
1985
01:16:15,071 --> 01:16:17,111
LAINIE:
I was extremely pleased
1986
01:16:17,140 --> 01:16:19,210
when he was cast
in that movie,
1987
01:16:19,242 --> 01:16:22,882
because now was
an opportunity to work,
1988
01:16:22,912 --> 01:16:24,882
yet with a different
group of people.
1989
01:16:24,914 --> 01:16:26,884
You know, the character
of Uncle Willy -
1990
01:16:26,916 --> 01:16:29,386
I'm trying to figure out,
"Who can I get to play this?
1991
01:16:29,418 --> 01:16:33,088
Can we get Dick Miller?"
1992
01:16:33,122 --> 01:16:34,992
Jeryline...
1993
01:16:35,024 --> 01:16:37,334
You wouldn't hurt your old
Uncle Willy now, wouldya baby?
1994
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,960
It was a movie that we did
of Tales from the Crypt.
1995
01:16:39,996 --> 01:16:41,356
I think it was the
first one that we did.
1996
01:16:41,397 --> 01:16:43,827
We were all worried about
it being a feature movie
1997
01:16:43,867 --> 01:16:45,097
and if it would hold up.
1998
01:16:45,134 --> 01:16:46,944
And Dick was one
of our performers.
1999
01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:49,140
It did very well.
2000
01:16:50,974 --> 01:16:52,384
I found myself
in a situation -
2001
01:16:52,408 --> 01:16:56,048
To work with people whose
work I grew up with.
2002
01:16:56,079 --> 01:16:57,909
Ernest Dickerson was
very collaborative.
2003
01:16:57,947 --> 01:17:00,177
We worked very closely
on the script.
2004
01:17:00,216 --> 01:17:02,186
We worked very
closely on the casting.
2005
01:17:02,218 --> 01:17:04,848
I was next to him every day,
shot by shot...
2006
01:17:04,888 --> 01:17:07,158
Get the pussy
off the table!
2007
01:17:07,190 --> 01:17:08,990
[Laugh]
2008
01:17:09,025 --> 01:17:11,995
The great secret,
it seems to me,
2009
01:17:12,028 --> 01:17:14,028
to the craft of acting,
is to work,
2010
01:17:14,063 --> 01:17:16,273
and work with the
best people you can.
2011
01:17:16,299 --> 01:17:18,839
DICKERSON: It was just
a really good ensemble
2012
01:17:18,868 --> 01:17:21,298
and they felt very much
at ease with each other.
2013
01:17:23,172 --> 01:17:25,142
Whenever you kill
an actor in a movie,
2014
01:17:25,174 --> 01:17:26,984
you seem to kind of know
them a little differently.
2015
01:17:27,010 --> 01:17:28,180
Yeah, he was a
pain in the neck.
2016
01:17:28,211 --> 01:17:31,281
We tried to cut off his head.
He wouldn't let us do it.
2017
01:17:31,314 --> 01:17:32,784
Oh, man!
2018
01:17:32,816 --> 01:17:34,116
So there was a lot of
togetherness on the set.
2019
01:17:34,150 --> 01:17:35,750
It was sort of
like every scene
2020
01:17:35,785 --> 01:17:37,345
involved the whole group
2021
01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:38,886
running frightened
2022
01:17:38,922 --> 01:17:40,362
from Billy Zane
and company.
2023
01:17:40,389 --> 01:17:41,959
Fuckin' ho dunk,
po dunk,
2024
01:17:41,991 --> 01:17:43,791
well-them-there
mother fuckers!
2025
01:17:43,827 --> 01:17:45,387
[Laughs]
2026
01:17:45,428 --> 01:17:47,398
Holy shit!
2027
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:49,700
Hi, Uncle Willy!
2028
01:17:49,733 --> 01:17:50,833
Poor Uncle Willy...
2029
01:17:50,867 --> 01:17:52,897
LAINIE: Demon Knight,
the ladies -
DICK: We shot -
2030
01:17:52,936 --> 01:17:54,036
LAINIE: They didn't have
any clothes on!
2031
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:56,840
We shot 17 or 18
takes on that.
2032
01:17:56,873 --> 01:17:58,443
What else could Dick do?
2033
01:17:58,474 --> 01:18:00,214
I mean, really?
2034
01:18:00,243 --> 01:18:03,183
It was kinda like
a dairy farm...
2035
01:18:03,212 --> 01:18:05,082
DICKERSON:
He's always been Dick.
2036
01:18:05,114 --> 01:18:07,084
I think it is his personality.
2037
01:18:07,116 --> 01:18:11,246
INTERVIEWER:
Who is that?
That's my wife.
2038
01:18:11,287 --> 01:18:12,887
Lainie!
2039
01:18:12,922 --> 01:18:14,392
Lookin' at
your picture!
2040
01:18:14,423 --> 01:18:16,133
DICKERSON:
No matter what role he plays,
2041
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:17,889
who he is always comes out.
2042
01:18:17,927 --> 01:18:20,997
BEHR: I was looking at
his old school tats.
2043
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:22,770
I was asking
him about it,
2044
01:18:22,799 --> 01:18:24,099
and he talked about
how he got them.
2045
01:18:24,133 --> 01:18:26,473
He was a sailor
and he was young.
2046
01:18:26,502 --> 01:18:28,442
And he looked at me
2047
01:18:28,471 --> 01:18:31,071
and he said,
really serious -
2048
01:18:31,107 --> 01:18:32,937
with a twinkle,
but serious -
2049
01:18:32,976 --> 01:18:34,936
"If I ever find out
2050
01:18:34,978 --> 01:18:37,078
that you get a tattoo,
2051
01:18:37,113 --> 01:18:39,223
I'm gonna fuckin'
kill you.
2052
01:18:39,248 --> 01:18:42,218
Because what's
cool at 20...
2053
01:18:42,251 --> 01:18:45,091
is an embarrassment
at 50."
2054
01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:49,330
It is wisdom.
2055
01:18:49,358 --> 01:18:51,428
When I met Dick,
2056
01:18:51,460 --> 01:18:52,960
I thought I'd get,
you know,
2057
01:18:52,996 --> 01:18:55,296
a whole bunch of
things from him,
2058
01:18:55,331 --> 01:18:57,301
but I never really
thought about wisdom.
2059
01:18:57,333 --> 01:18:59,473
You don't think about wisdom
with actors, necessarily.
2060
01:18:59,502 --> 01:19:01,972
You don't have any ID.
2061
01:19:02,005 --> 01:19:03,805
You don't have
any money,
2062
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,340
and you're both
dressed like clowns.
2063
01:19:05,374 --> 01:19:06,844
You figure it out.
2064
01:19:06,876 --> 01:19:08,406
BEHR: By the time
I was running Deep Space,
2065
01:19:08,444 --> 01:19:11,084
I thought, OK, I really
wanted something special.
2066
01:19:11,114 --> 01:19:13,984
We had this part
of this camp guard
2067
01:19:14,017 --> 01:19:16,987
who could have been
played by a 30 year old,
2068
01:19:17,020 --> 01:19:19,990
tall, muscular guy.
2069
01:19:20,023 --> 01:19:21,993
And I thought,
"No, no, no.
2070
01:19:22,025 --> 01:19:23,525
This is the part
for Dick."
2071
01:19:23,559 --> 01:19:25,329
Now sit down,
shut up,
2072
01:19:25,361 --> 01:19:26,561
fill out the forms,
2073
01:19:26,595 --> 01:19:28,995
and if you have any problems,
don't come to me with them.
2074
01:19:29,032 --> 01:19:30,532
BEHR:
The guy carrying this
2075
01:19:30,566 --> 01:19:33,266
big-ass futuristic rifle
2076
01:19:33,302 --> 01:19:36,412
is not maybe
your first thought
2077
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,409
for a Dick Miller role.
2078
01:19:38,441 --> 01:19:40,881
But he plays it -
2079
01:19:40,910 --> 01:19:42,910
You know, you
never question it.
2080
01:19:42,946 --> 01:19:45,146
And I wish
that more people
2081
01:19:45,181 --> 01:19:48,021
had cast him in
that kinda thing,
2082
01:19:48,051 --> 01:19:50,521
because he
just had chops
2083
01:19:50,553 --> 01:19:53,393
to do a wider range
of parts.
2084
01:19:53,422 --> 01:19:56,562
LAINIE: Dick used to go to
Theodore's for breakfast.
2085
01:19:56,592 --> 01:19:59,402
Quentin Tarantino comes in...
2086
01:19:59,428 --> 01:20:02,198
He told Dick
what a fan he was of his.
2087
01:20:02,231 --> 01:20:04,071
Low and behold,
the next day,
2088
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:05,430
our phone rings at home
2089
01:20:05,468 --> 01:20:08,298
and they're calling
for Pulp Fiction!
2090
01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:13,440
He played Monster Joe.
2091
01:20:13,476 --> 01:20:15,846
Monster Joe
was a guy
2092
01:20:15,879 --> 01:20:17,849
who had a junkyard.
2093
01:20:17,881 --> 01:20:19,181
But that's what he did
2094
01:20:19,215 --> 01:20:22,185
and that whole scene
was cut out!
2095
01:20:22,218 --> 01:20:24,188
Tell ya what -
If you ever need it,
2096
01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:26,560
I'll dispose of a
body part for free.
2097
01:20:26,589 --> 01:20:28,219
How about
an upgrade?
2098
01:20:28,257 --> 01:20:30,257
DICK: Pulp Fiction got
me a little bugged.
2099
01:20:30,293 --> 01:20:31,963
If you make
enough pictures,
2100
01:20:31,995 --> 01:20:34,925
you're gonna hit all
the stops in the road.
2101
01:20:34,964 --> 01:20:38,074
LAINIE: Not that he hadn't
been cut out of things before.
2102
01:20:38,101 --> 01:20:39,401
In an actor's life,
2103
01:20:39,435 --> 01:20:42,205
I can't tell you how many
times the averages is
2104
01:20:42,238 --> 01:20:45,638
that somebody gets cut out of
something that they've shot.
2105
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:48,144
But this was
a big deal for him.
2106
01:20:48,177 --> 01:20:50,107
[Laughing]
I could take out an ad
in the Yellow Pages.
2107
01:20:50,146 --> 01:20:52,316
I gotta run that past
my accountant.
2108
01:20:57,153 --> 01:21:00,363
LAINIE:
Cutaways was a short
2109
01:21:00,389 --> 01:21:01,889
that is directed
2110
01:21:01,925 --> 01:21:04,955
by a lady named
Agnieszka Kurant.
2111
01:21:04,994 --> 01:21:08,134
She is actually an
artist and sculptor.
2112
01:21:08,164 --> 01:21:11,234
But she wrote and
directed this short
2113
01:21:11,267 --> 01:21:13,997
about people who were
2114
01:21:14,037 --> 01:21:16,137
cut out of movies -
2115
01:21:16,172 --> 01:21:19,642
Abe Vigoda, who was in
The Conversation,
2116
01:21:19,675 --> 01:21:21,945
and Dick,
with Pulp Fiction.
2117
01:21:21,978 --> 01:21:24,548
So her premise in
using these people
2118
01:21:24,580 --> 01:21:28,150
is they meet somewhere
in the Netherworld,
2119
01:21:28,184 --> 01:21:31,454
and it's really
quite interesting.
2120
01:21:31,487 --> 01:21:33,557
You know, I didn't
know what to expect.
2121
01:21:33,589 --> 01:21:37,029
It has been a long time
since Pulp Fiction came out.
2122
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:39,030
And all of a sudden,
2123
01:21:39,062 --> 01:21:41,932
when the director
yells "Action,"
2124
01:21:41,965 --> 01:21:43,925
all of the years
peel off of Dick,
2125
01:21:43,967 --> 01:21:46,437
and there he is -
again.
2126
01:21:48,304 --> 01:21:50,944
BILL: That's one of the
great things about Dick -
2127
01:21:50,974 --> 01:21:52,614
that he loves,
2128
01:21:52,641 --> 01:21:55,011
loves being an actor.
2129
01:21:55,044 --> 01:21:56,154
If you're lucky enough -
2130
01:21:56,179 --> 01:21:59,279
and I say this about what
I do to a certain extent -
2131
01:21:59,315 --> 01:22:02,285
but if you can have a job like,
or do something,
2132
01:22:02,318 --> 01:22:04,948
that's you're so committed to,
that you love so much,
2133
01:22:04,988 --> 01:22:07,018
I think that really is
2134
01:22:07,056 --> 01:22:09,326
the most important
thing in life.
2135
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,430
LAINIE: There were
so many years
2136
01:22:12,461 --> 01:22:13,631
we would have loved
to have a vacation.
2137
01:22:13,662 --> 01:22:16,202
We never could put the money
together to have a vacation.
2138
01:22:16,232 --> 01:22:18,202
We didn't even
really have a honeymoon
2139
01:22:18,234 --> 01:22:21,704
until he went to do
The Long Ride Home.
2140
01:22:21,737 --> 01:22:24,107
And when I showed up,
2141
01:22:24,140 --> 01:22:26,140
we called that
our honeymoon.
2142
01:22:26,175 --> 01:22:28,435
Since then,
things have changed.
2143
01:22:28,477 --> 01:22:32,117
And we've gone to Hawaii
a number of times...
2144
01:22:32,148 --> 01:22:37,148
[**]
2145
01:22:50,199 --> 01:22:52,599
BILL: He's always so
committed to being an actor.
2146
01:22:52,635 --> 01:22:55,135
He's so focused
on being an actor.
2147
01:22:55,171 --> 01:22:56,611
I would say it's an important
part of his life,
2148
01:22:56,639 --> 01:22:58,509
I would say,
being an actor, I guess.
2149
01:22:58,541 --> 01:23:02,211
Elaine and being an actor
is his whole life.
2150
01:23:02,245 --> 01:23:04,205
And I think
the two of them
2151
01:23:04,247 --> 01:23:06,217
have gotten along
absolutely famously.
2152
01:23:06,249 --> 01:23:08,219
I know that he regards
her very highly,
2153
01:23:08,251 --> 01:23:09,521
and I know
she really loves him.
2154
01:23:09,552 --> 01:23:11,392
I don't have any
doubts about that.
2155
01:23:11,420 --> 01:23:14,760
Because, although I was really
not in show business myself,
2156
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:16,630
I worked in the
film studios.
2157
01:23:16,659 --> 01:23:18,289
And getting to know
some of the people
2158
01:23:18,327 --> 01:23:19,627
who were there
all the time,
2159
01:23:19,662 --> 01:23:21,762
I'm proud at the fact
that he made it.
2160
01:23:21,797 --> 01:23:29,107
[**]
2161
01:23:29,138 --> 01:23:31,238
LAINIE:
Every role is special.
2162
01:23:31,274 --> 01:23:33,384
He just looks
at each role -
2163
01:23:33,409 --> 01:23:35,439
that there
is nothing else
2164
01:23:35,478 --> 01:23:38,478
and it doesn't matter if
the picture is a big picture,
2165
01:23:38,514 --> 01:23:40,224
or if the picture
is a small picture,
2166
01:23:40,249 --> 01:23:42,349
whatever it is,
2167
01:23:42,385 --> 01:23:44,115
and I think
that's his secret.
2168
01:23:44,153 --> 01:23:47,123
Because he gives
everything his all.
2169
01:23:47,156 --> 01:23:50,126
One of the words
he uses a lot....
2170
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:51,829
I understand why
he uses it,
2171
01:23:51,860 --> 01:23:53,400
but personally,
2172
01:23:53,429 --> 01:23:55,659
it's a little bit
of a knife to me.
2173
01:23:55,698 --> 01:23:58,168
He goes, "Oh yeah, that was
a nice little part.
2174
01:23:58,201 --> 01:23:59,671
That was a nice little part."
2175
01:23:59,702 --> 01:24:01,372
That's what he says a lot.
2176
01:24:01,404 --> 01:24:03,744
And I hate the little
of it, you know?
2177
01:24:03,772 --> 01:24:05,272
Dick did an ER.
2178
01:24:05,308 --> 01:24:06,738
I don't know if
you saw that clip.
2179
01:24:06,775 --> 01:24:08,575
That's one of his best, too.
2180
01:24:08,611 --> 01:24:12,281
Oh, Mr. Ackerman I can't take
you outside to smoke marijuana.
2181
01:24:12,315 --> 01:24:16,285
I'm probably not able
to inhale anyway...
2182
01:24:16,319 --> 01:24:18,349
"Now this ER thing,
they don't cut.
2183
01:24:18,387 --> 01:24:20,257
This is gonna be
on the air, right?"
2184
01:24:20,289 --> 01:24:21,559
I said, "Yeah,
2185
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:23,260
you're damn right
it's gonna be on the air.
2186
01:24:23,292 --> 01:24:24,392
"Because she's in it!"
2187
01:24:24,427 --> 01:24:26,597
"Yeah, it's gonna be on the air
because she's in it."
2188
01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:30,129
If you're on screen for a
very short period of time,
2189
01:24:30,166 --> 01:24:31,426
you don't have a lot of time
2190
01:24:31,467 --> 01:24:33,397
to establish a
character or any quirks,
2191
01:24:33,436 --> 01:24:35,836
so you work in slightly
bolder strokes.
2192
01:24:35,871 --> 01:24:38,271
And I think that's one of the
things that a good day-player,
2193
01:24:38,307 --> 01:24:39,637
a good character actor does,
2194
01:24:39,675 --> 01:24:41,705
no matter what size
of the part.
2195
01:24:41,744 --> 01:24:43,654
They embody the
character so much,
2196
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:46,349
you feel like when the
camera leaves that shop
2197
01:24:46,382 --> 01:24:47,822
or wherever you encountered
that character,
2198
01:24:47,850 --> 01:24:49,820
the character is still
there doing business.
2199
01:24:49,852 --> 01:24:52,492
And you could have stayed,
and that would have been
2200
01:24:52,521 --> 01:24:54,391
an interesting person
to hang around with.
2201
01:24:54,423 --> 01:24:56,163
I've always been delighted
2202
01:24:56,192 --> 01:24:59,462
when guys who started
with me move on,
2203
01:24:59,495 --> 01:25:01,755
and I'm proud of
what Dick has done.
2204
01:25:03,599 --> 01:25:06,169
LAINIE: We love going on
cruises and traveling.
2205
01:25:06,202 --> 01:25:09,472
We like to
see new places.
2206
01:25:09,505 --> 01:25:11,865
We like to meet
new people.
2207
01:25:11,907 --> 01:25:15,207
We really like to meet up
again with old friends
2208
01:25:15,244 --> 01:25:18,214
that we haven't seen
for a long time.
2209
01:25:18,247 --> 01:25:20,517
We'll go
anywhere to dance,
2210
01:25:20,549 --> 01:25:23,389
especially if it's
got good music.
2211
01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:30,292
How do you like that?
2212
01:25:30,326 --> 01:25:32,296
LAINIE:
Like what?
2213
01:25:32,328 --> 01:25:34,528
The boating thing.
I could do that.
2214
01:25:38,667 --> 01:25:41,297
Dick is one of my
treasured friends
2215
01:25:41,337 --> 01:25:42,807
and colleagues.
2216
01:25:42,838 --> 01:25:45,508
I would certainly think
that my work over the years
2217
01:25:45,541 --> 01:25:47,381
wouldn't have been
quite as much fun,
2218
01:25:47,410 --> 01:25:49,380
for me or for the people
who watch it,
2219
01:25:49,412 --> 01:25:50,912
if Dick wasn't involved.
2220
01:25:54,583 --> 01:25:56,753
That's it.
That's the end of the picture.
2221
01:25:58,587 --> 01:26:00,557
Unfortunately,
I think it's my last one.
2222
01:26:00,589 --> 01:26:04,259
I really do.
I'm tired...
2223
01:26:04,293 --> 01:26:05,893
It's time to retire.
2224
01:26:05,928 --> 01:26:08,258
LAINIE: Dick,
you got a phone call.
Just a second.
2225
01:26:08,297 --> 01:26:09,927
And I've had it.
2226
01:26:09,965 --> 01:26:12,735
I don't think I'll do anymore,
that's the end of it.
2227
01:26:12,768 --> 01:26:14,798
I'm through, really.
2228
01:26:14,837 --> 01:26:17,807
Hello?
2229
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,840
Yeah, I'm available!
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