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MOCEAN MELVIN: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch--
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: There
really is something
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about this area that points
to all the same telltale signs
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of a portal.
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You've never seen this before?
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Never seen it
like that before.
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That is a massive--
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Look at that thing.
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--massive rocket.
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That is taller than you, Allen.
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4, 3, 2, 1.
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Oh!
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[rocket whooshing]
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MOCEAN MELVIN: For
years, scientists
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have been working to reveal the
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible
that the clues
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to unlock the
mystery are located
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beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?
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Wow!
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MOCEAN MELVIN: Now, an ex-CIA
agent and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high stakes
mission across America.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look at all
this activity that's happening.
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PAUL BEBAN: That's unbelievable.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That
is right over our heads.
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That's it!
That's it right there!
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MOCEAN MELVIN: The goal--
uncover evidence that
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may finally expose the truth.
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MAN 1: How is this happening?
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MAN 2: Now it's going
to get interesting.
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MAN 3: Look, it's moving!
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Look at that!
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[screaming]
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MAN 4: This is
just the beginning.
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[music playing]
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ERIK BARD: Paul and Andy,
tell us what you got for us.
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Well, I think
what we want to do
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is talk to you about why we
want to go back to someplace
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we found so interesting.
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And you may recall
Rocky Mountain Ranch.
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Oh, yeah.
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah?
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Rocky Mountain Ranch
first came across our radar
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when we were reading the
book Hunt for the Skinwalker.
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ERIK BARD: Yes.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Inside that book,
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there's a ranch
referenced in Colorado,
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but the ranch is
anonymized in the book.
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We were able to actually
uncover the true location of it
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and connect it back to
researcher, Katie Paige, who was
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actually a child on that ranch.
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And a big part of
her experience there
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is what led her to become a
well respected UFO researcher.
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Now, we went there and we
took Katie back to the ranch
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the first time in 40 years?
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- 40 years--
- Wow.
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--at least.
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There was just such an abundance
of data that came out of this.
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We have a lot of jumping
off points to go back to.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: During
the 2023 investigation,
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while exploring an area on Rocky
Mountain Ranch that has been
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a hotspot of activity,
Andy and the current owners
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heard the strange humming
sound that Katie reported
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hearing as a young girl.
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WOMAN: What is that noise?
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That doesn't
sound like a plane or a drone.
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That's a pitched hum.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: This led the
team to conduct rocket tests.
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Something caused the first
rocket to go wildly off course
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from its normal flight path.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Greg, is that it?
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Is that it?
GREG: Yeah, there it is.
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Holy [bleep].
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What's it doing over here?
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GREG: Wow.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: This
is way off course.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: The second
rocket failed in mid-air.
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[rocket whooshing]
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The team speculated
that this might
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have been caused by passing
through an aerial anomaly.
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MAN 5: It's like it
hit a wall up there.
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MAN 6: She's dropping.
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[music playing]
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TRAVIS TAYLOR: And
this thing tumbled?
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- Yes.
- Like it hit something, yeah.
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ERIK BARD: Yes.
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There was a noticeable bump.
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Of all the findings
from that site,
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which did you consider
to be the ones that
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warranted the most follow up?
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Our goal is to dig into
three different locations.
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Those locations are what
we call the tree line
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to the northern side
of the property,
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the location where our rocket
actually fell out of the sky--
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that's the second location
we want to explore.
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And then the cistern, the area
where we first heard that hum.
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That's a heck of a list.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yeah.
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PAUL BEBAN: Absolutely.
All right.
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All right, guys.
Well, good luck.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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TRAVIS TAYLOR: We'll see
you when you get back.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Appreciate it.
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[music playing]
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MOCEAN MELVIN: Due to
the sensitive nature
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of this investigation, the
current owners of Rocky Mountain
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Ranch have asked for
their names and location
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to be kept anonymous.
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[music playing]
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PAUL BEBAN: I'm really
excited to be coming
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back to Rocky Mountain Ranch.
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I mean, our first
investigation here totally
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blew me out of the water.
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Yeah.
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For all the data we collected,
we barely scratched the surface.
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And the remote viewers
are just one example.
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MOCEAN MELVIN:
Andy and Paul want
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to revisit data collected
during their first investigation
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at Rocky Mountain Ranch.
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They worked with a
former US Army Special
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Operations officer, David
Morehouse, an expert
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in remote viewing.
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We assembled 70
remote viewers from
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six different countries that
produced over 3,000 data points.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: This
controversial surveillance
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technique was first developed
in 1972 by the US defense
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intelligence agency, and
used since the Cold War
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to spy on enemies.
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Andy and Paul
believe this data may
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help to provide more insight
into the anomalies at the ranch.
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I think this is
a great opportunity
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to dig deeper into those
targets and see what
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we might be able to
understand about what's
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going on at this place.
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We have a lot of
work ahead of us,
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and I think what we can do here
is you should go to the ranch
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and talk to Katie.
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And then I'll start
with David Morehouse
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and try to get some more
information about how we can
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really make the best use of this
massive amount of information
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that the remote viewers
have drawn up for us.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: All right,
man, this looks like your stop.
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PAUL BEBAN: Perfect.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Good
luck with Dr. Morehouse.
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Thank you.
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Say hi to Katie, and
I'll see you soon.
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You got it.
All right, buddy.
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[music playing]
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David, it's so exciting to
be working with you again.
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I feel like we learn so
much from you last time.
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I'm really excited
to have you back.
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Thanks, Paul.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: David Morehouse
was one of the first trainees
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in the government remote viewing
program called Project Stargate.
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Over the past few decades, he
has trained over 23,000 students
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in 16 different countries.
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Just remind us, what
exactly is remote viewing?
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How does it work?
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The best sound bite
I ever heard for that--
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or the best description that
was an elevator pitch for it--
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was allegedly put together
by Admiral Stansfield
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Turner when he was the
director of the Central
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Intelligence Agency.
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He said that this
is a learned ability
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to enter an altered
state of consciousness,
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to transcend space and time,
to view persons, places, events
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and things remote
in space and time,
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and to gather and
report intelligence
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information on the same.
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So remote viewing
is just another tool
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all in the investigative toolbox
to try to get to the bottom
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of some of these mysteries?
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Absolutely.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: For
this assignment,
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the remote viewers were given a
target map faded to 3% opacity,
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keeping the location and
topography of the ranch hidden.
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The team of psychics then
drew pictures and wrote down
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what they sensed happened on the
property over the past 50 years.
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The final results were
collected by Dr. Morehouse
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and grouped together as data
points on a map of the ranch.
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All of these blue
orbs that you see
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here, those are plotted points.
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Now, they're not being
represented three dimensionally,
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but all of these
points stack up.
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Are you saying that these
dots are at different altitudes
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above the ranch?
- Absolutely.
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OK.
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Because right away when
I'm looking at this--
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I mean, this cluster
right here, this
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is where we had our big
instrument rocket go down.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah.
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Where we literally
thought this thing
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hit something in space.
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And you're saying this is the
cluster that is distributed
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through that altitude?
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Right.
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This is an enhanced
sketch of what they're
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seeing at that sense point.
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18 viewers sketched versions
of this in different ways.
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Not every viewer is necessarily
a good artist or a good sketch,
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so that's why viewers are taught
to probe and label the sketches.
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So the descriptors of
this is that energy
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is pouring out of one portal,
down through another portal.
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And then it is spilling
heavily out in the ranch
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and the surrounding area.
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PAUL BEBAN: OK.
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And it was described as
a wall of hardened energy,
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a downward flow of force that
was spilling over the ranch
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and the surrounding area.
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PAUL BEBAN: When that
rocket malfunctioned,
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I feel like one of
us actually said it's
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like it hit a wall up there.
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I mean, that's remarkable.
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[music playing]
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MOCEAN MELVIN:
While Paul continues
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to discuss the findings
from the remote viewers,
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Andy meets with Katie Paige
and current resident Nicole
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to get briefed on
new revelations
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since the last time
they were on the ranch.
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[music playing]
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- Hey, Nicole.
- Hey.
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How's it going?
- It's good.
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It's good to see you again.
- Yeah, you too.
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Welcome back.
- Thank you.
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Hey, buddy.
KATIE PAIGE: Hey.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Good
to see you again, Katie.
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KATIE PAIGE: Good to see you.
- You remember Nicole?
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I do.
Hi, Nicole.
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- Hey, Katie.
- How are you?
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Thanks for having me back.
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NICOLE: Of course.
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This is Oscar.
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KATIE PAIGE: Hi, Oscar.
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How does it feel for you
coming back a second time?
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It feels OK in the
daytime, but I still
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have those butterflies
being back here.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: As a
nine-year-old girl,
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Katie Paige was terrorized by
strange phenomena at the ranch.
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It was like this
heavy feeling of just
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being uneasy, being watched.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: One of her
most traumatizing memories
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was when a strange,
disembodied electronic voice
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threatened her family.
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KATIE PAIGE: And it
basically stated, you know,
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we have allowed you to remain.
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Your friends will be instructed
to remain silent concerning us.
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Concerning us?
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Concerning us.
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That must have
been terrifying.
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KATIE PAIGE: It was terrifying.
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But here I am, back here to face
it because that's how I feel.
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I feel empowered as an adult
now that I want to face
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whatever this is head on.
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Well, the last
time we were here,
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one of the strangest
things to happen
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was that a rocket
actually crashed
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over my left shoulder here.
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It did, right there.
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I have something that I need
to tell you about that area
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where that rocket crashed.
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So my sister and I was on a
typical spring Colorado day,
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you know, with the sun
shining a lot like today.
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NICOLE: Come on.
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Come on, Osc.
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We already have him getting a
little nervous coming up here.
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What's going on?
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He doesn't like
coming up this hill.
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Oh, look at him.
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He has his tail down.
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Come on, Oscar.
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That's really interesting.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: He
does not want to come.
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Look at that.
KATIE PAIGE: He does not.
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Look at that.
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Come on.
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It's OK.
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[music playing]
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He just will not come up here.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: He just totally
slipped out of his own leash.
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He's gone.
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Wow.
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NICOLE: Yeah.
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I never understood it,
but it's just this area
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that you're taking us to.
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He doesn't want to go there.
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Really?
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Mm hm.
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Isn't that something.
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Wow.
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So what happened here, Katie?
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KATIE PAIGE: It was
a wet, heavy snow,
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a few inches on the ground.
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And what was really strange
is there was this very large,
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dry dirt, snowless
circle, as if something
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was sitting here or something.
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It was just so odd.
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And then fast forward decades
later, when I finally acquired
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the APRO report as
confirmation to the experiences
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that I remember having.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: Unknown
to Katie, back in 1978,
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a group known as the Aerial
Phenomena Research Organization,
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or APRO, also documented the
strange events at the ranch
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around the same time she was
living there as a young girl.
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And it actually says
that the investigators saw
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the snowless circle, and
that it was approximately
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75 feet in diameter.
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Really bizarre.
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Yeah, that's super strange.
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And this is the area?
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Yeah, it was right
in this area in here.
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There's a cistern.
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So that rocket
would have come down
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just somewhere right over here.
- Yeah.
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Right.
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And it would have lost power
almost right above this area.
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Wow.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE: Next,
we're going to transition
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over into below surface.
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Look at this area here.
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Mm hm.
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In the tree line.
DAVID MOREHOUSE: Right.
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PAUL BEBAN: I mean,
that's where we
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launched another
one of our rockets
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and had it go wildly off course.
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But I mean, look at this huge
cluster right by the cistern.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah, wow.
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32 individual viewers sketched
versions of this cistern.
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PAUL BEBAN: Mm hm.
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But the data-- the verbal
sensory data that supported this
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was widening cracks
and low tunnels down
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underneath it that spun off.
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So--
PAUL BEBAN: Oh, wow.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah.
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These are corridors.
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These things were all discussed
by viewers as militaristic.
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PAUL BEBAN: Mm hm.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE:
People in uniform.
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PAUL BEBAN: Right.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE: Man made
tunnels, overhead lighting.
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How deep?
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Well, we asked them
to sense to 10,000 feet.
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Right.
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DAVID MOREHOUSE: But-- and how
deep it might be, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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You know, this makes me think
that Andy and I are going
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to have to try to get some more
survey information about what's
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underground under the ranch.
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Yeah, just don't
go down there.
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[laughing]
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[music playing]
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Welcome back, gents.
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- Team Terra.
- Good to see you.
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It's always good
to see you guys.
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How are you?
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ROBERT LEONARD:
Good to see y'all.
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Oh, are you bundled up
for some action today?
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Yes.
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It always seems to
be cold with you guys
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[laughing]
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MOCEAN MELVIN: For the first
experiment on Rocky Mountain
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Ranch, Andy and Paul have
brought in geophysical survey
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experts Terra
Exploration Group to help
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investigate the targets
the remote viewer
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sensed underground.
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This is an area that has
data that we've collected
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from a remote viewer
experiment, which showed
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multiple types of
strange anomalies
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that might exist
underground and overhead.
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And we've seen some really
strange effects here.
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We had a rocket that
launched here and deployed
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a normal chute, but then
that chute went wildly
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off course, miles off course.
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[rocket whooshing]
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Wow.
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00:13:33,708 --> 00:13:35,833
OK, I just lost it.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Greg, is that it?
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Is that it?
GREG: Yeah, there it is.
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Holy [bleep].
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00:13:39,417 --> 00:13:40,667
What's it doing over here?
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This is way off course.
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I've got the grid
programmed in here already,
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and it's basically to
cover that whole field.
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And we're just going to go over
there and push some buttons
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and be ready to go.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: In 2020,
the Skinwalker Ranch team
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used a magnetometer drone that
identified a magnetic anomaly
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below ground next to the mesa.
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ERIK BARD: It's
telling us there's
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something going
on in the ground,
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particularly there at
the homestead area.
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I mean, it's clearly a
magnetic anomaly there.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: Now,
the Terra group
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will use the same technology
to see if they can identify
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anything underground at the
treeline that could possibly
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validate the cluster
of targets sensed here
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by the remote viewers,
and help explain
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what made the team's rocket
go completely off course.
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Beautiful day
for a drone launch.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yeah.
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MOCEAN MELVIN:
Terra's drone flies
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in a grid pattern that
is pre-programmed using
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GPS coordinates for navigation.
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The attached
magnetometer will scan
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for evidence of possible
voids and tunnels
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all around the treeline area.
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ROBERT LEONARD:
OK, we're going up.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Let's do it.
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00:14:44,917 --> 00:14:47,833
[drone whirring]
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00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:51,000
PAUL BEBAN: Whoa.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: OK, that
didn't sound good, did it?
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That doesn't look good either.
PAUL BEBAN: Where's it going?
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Fighting
the wind, for sure.
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PAUL BEBAN: Oh, oh.
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That our grid pattern?
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PAUL BEBAN: Whoa.
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ROBERT LEONARD: See how
it's kind of squirrely?
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00:15:00,875 --> 00:15:02,500
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Is that normal?
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00:15:02,583 --> 00:15:03,875
ROBERT LEONARD: No, it should
fly straighter than that.
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PAUL BEBAN: It's
struggling with altitude.
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ROBERT LEONARD: Tell you, it
does not like flying over here.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
It's just not happy.
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00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:11,083
ROBERT LEONARD: There's some
kind of disturbance over here
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that it's not liking.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Sure looks like it.
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ROBERT LEONARD: We're
just going to let it keep
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going so we can get the data.
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That right there--
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you see that?
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Yeah, I saw it.
Oh.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Oh, man.
Watch out.
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PAUL BEBAN: It's swinging that
magnetometer all over the place.
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ROBERT LEONARD: Turbulence.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Watch out.
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ROBERT LEONARD: Oh, boy.
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PAUL BEBAN: And
it's fighting hard.
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ROBERT LEONARD: All
right, we're coming home.
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00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:29,708
OK.
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00:15:29,833 --> 00:15:31,167
PAUL BEBAN: Oh, boy.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That is
not a happy device, man.
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PAUL BEBAN: Not at all.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT LEONARD: Phew.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Ooh,
that was touch and go.
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ROBERT LEONARD: Yeah.
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00:15:39,042 --> 00:15:40,667
What was going
on up there, Rob?
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00:15:40,708 --> 00:15:44,042
It either doesn't
like the cold.
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00:15:44,042 --> 00:15:46,833
There may be something to
these strange occurrences
447
00:15:46,917 --> 00:15:49,167
you guys keep running into.
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00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:50,833
But we'll get a
look at this data
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because we got most
of the grids, so--
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- OK.
- Yeah.
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- Perfect.
- Cool.
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These initial results give
us a whole new dimension
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to look at this property from.
- Yeah.
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Let's do it.
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00:16:00,375 --> 00:16:02,333
Well, we're glad that it
came down in one piece.
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00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:04,583
That was an interesting
start to the day.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: For the next
stage of their investigation,
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Andy and Paul lead the Terra
team to the landing site.
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This is the location
where the team
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had a rocket crash in their
first visit to the ranch.
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00:16:16,417 --> 00:16:19,042
It's also the area where
the remote viewers sensed
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strange double
portals in the sky,
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00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:24,000
and where Katie
Paige, as a child,
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saw the barren
circle on the ground.
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I mean, this is
literally the crash site.
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Hopefully, it won't be
crash site part two.
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00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,667
Keep your head on a swivel,
and expect the unexpected
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in this place.
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00:16:34,667 --> 00:16:35,458
All right?
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[drone whirring]
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ROBERT LEONARD: All right, baby.
Come on.
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00:16:39,208 --> 00:16:40,542
PAUL BEBAN: That
looks promising.
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00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:43,458
[drone whirring]
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[music playing]
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00:16:45,875 --> 00:16:48,417
Whoa, whoa.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Boy, it's
really fighting the wind.
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00:16:50,667 --> 00:16:53,125
ROBERT LEONARD: Oh, doesn't like
that turn around down there.
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That's a tough place to turn.
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00:16:54,542 --> 00:16:55,375
Yeah.
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00:16:55,500 --> 00:16:56,875
Come on.
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00:16:56,958 --> 00:16:57,833
Oh, boy.
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00:16:57,917 --> 00:17:00,208
[drone whirring]
483
00:17:00,333 --> 00:17:01,042
Watch out.
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00:17:01,125 --> 00:17:02,917
You saw that rock, right?
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00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,250
We're coming home.
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ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Had enough of that.
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00:17:06,875 --> 00:17:09,833
[drone whirring]
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00:17:09,917 --> 00:17:13,833
[music playing]
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00:17:13,875 --> 00:17:16,958
We got data in there good.
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00:17:17,042 --> 00:17:18,292
So where do we going next?
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Our last hotspot is
up here at the cistern
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right at the top of the hill.
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ROBERT LEONARD: OK, let's go
over there, see what we got.
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BROGAN LEONARD: Keep it moving.
All right.
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MOCEAN MELVIN: The final
hotspot for the team to explore
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is the cistern.
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This is the location where Andy
and the current ranch owners
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heard a strange hum during
their first investigation.
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00:17:36,333 --> 00:17:37,250
Did you hear a noise?
500
00:17:37,333 --> 00:17:38,583
WOMAN: Just a humming noise.
501
00:17:38,667 --> 00:17:40,542
[humming]
- Oh, that is a humming noise.
502
00:17:40,625 --> 00:17:42,042
I hear that, too.
503
00:17:42,042 --> 00:17:43,708
MOCEAN MELVIN: And where
the remote viewers sensed
504
00:17:43,792 --> 00:17:45,833
large underground tunnels.
505
00:17:45,917 --> 00:17:49,292
Our primary objective here
is to see what anomaly, if any,
506
00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:50,875
exists underground.
ROBERT LEONARD: OK.
507
00:17:50,958 --> 00:17:52,750
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: And we have
the cistern kind of blocking
508
00:17:52,833 --> 00:17:54,458
our path in many ways.
- Yeah.
509
00:17:54,542 --> 00:17:56,833
So trying to do the magnetometer
here would be a waste of time
510
00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:59,750
because it's just going to say
that's an anomaly right there,
511
00:17:59,833 --> 00:18:00,667
but we know it's there.
512
00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:02,167
Right.
513
00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:03,833
So resistivity will not
be affected by any anomaly
514
00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:05,292
out there.
515
00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:06,625
We've never had any
issues with resistivity.
516
00:18:06,708 --> 00:18:09,375
MOCEAN MELVIN: In 2019,
the Skinwalker team
517
00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,167
did a resistivity
survey that identified
518
00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:15,250
a potential underground
cave in the east field.
519
00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:18,583
So this is the raw data
plotted over a 2D grid.
520
00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:20,458
So blues are going
to be more conductive
521
00:18:20,542 --> 00:18:22,333
and reds are going
to be more resistive.
522
00:18:22,375 --> 00:18:24,375
MAN 7: More resistive
might mean a hole.
523
00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:25,083
PAUL BEBAN: Yep.
524
00:18:25,167 --> 00:18:27,417
So that could be a cave.
525
00:18:27,542 --> 00:18:30,500
MOCEAN MELVIN: Now Andy,
Paul, and the Terra group
526
00:18:30,625 --> 00:18:32,792
will use the same
technology to see
527
00:18:32,792 --> 00:18:36,667
if they can find evidence of a
tunnel system under the cistern.
528
00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:39,208
This is one of the most
simple technologies that's been
529
00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:40,708
around since the early 1900s.
530
00:18:40,792 --> 00:18:43,125
It's just shock the
ground and read the ohms.
531
00:18:43,208 --> 00:18:43,833
Shocking all.
532
00:18:43,917 --> 00:18:45,667
Yeah.
533
00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,833
MOCEAN MELVIN: Resistivity uses
metal stakes and wires to send
534
00:18:48,917 --> 00:18:51,667
electric currents into the
ground that will bounce
535
00:18:51,792 --> 00:18:54,375
off any solid objects or voids.
536
00:18:54,458 --> 00:18:56,708
The team will test
down to 80 feet
537
00:18:56,833 --> 00:18:59,125
to see if they can find
the tunnels that were
538
00:18:59,208 --> 00:19:00,750
sensed by the remote viewers.
539
00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:04,083
[music playing]
540
00:19:06,542 --> 00:19:08,500
Robert, I feel a little
bit like we just built
541
00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:09,917
the nuclear football here, man.
542
00:19:09,917 --> 00:19:12,208
ROBERT LEONARD: Exactly.
543
00:19:12,292 --> 00:19:15,500
OK, so now we got it all set up.
544
00:19:15,583 --> 00:19:17,208
PAUL BEBAN
(VOICEOVER): We really
545
00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:19,458
want to understand what's
going on with this anomaly
546
00:19:19,542 --> 00:19:21,333
deep underground
under the cistern,
547
00:19:21,417 --> 00:19:24,958
how that might tie in to all
of these strange experiences
548
00:19:25,083 --> 00:19:26,500
here on the ranch.
549
00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:28,208
Will we get something
completely unexpected?
550
00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:29,375
You know, who knows?
551
00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:30,625
All right, that's what we got.
552
00:19:30,708 --> 00:19:32,500
[music playing]
553
00:19:32,542 --> 00:19:34,500
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: What's
the initial data look like?
554
00:19:34,583 --> 00:19:36,250
I'll go plug it in
on that other program
555
00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:37,542
and we'll take a look.
556
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:40,208
Expect the unexpected is
what I would have to say.
557
00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:41,250
- OK.
- All right?
558
00:19:41,250 --> 00:19:41,958
All right.
Let's do it.
559
00:19:41,958 --> 00:19:44,292
[music playing]
560
00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:50,042
[music playing]
561
00:19:50,208 --> 00:19:51,083
I'm actually really
excited to see the results
562
00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:52,500
that you came up with today
- OK.
563
00:19:52,583 --> 00:19:54,125
Because we have not had a
chance to look underground
564
00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:55,750
on this ranch at all.
565
00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:58,375
MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy, Paul,
and Terra Exploration Group
566
00:19:58,458 --> 00:20:00,792
conducted magnetometer
and resistivity
567
00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:04,708
surveys at three hotspots
on Rocky Mountain Ranch.
568
00:20:04,792 --> 00:20:07,833
Now they're meeting
to review the results.
569
00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:09,042
All right.
570
00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:10,042
Well, let's just dig into it.
571
00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:11,500
All right.
572
00:20:11,583 --> 00:20:13,917
So this is what we did
on the cistern up there.
573
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,667
We ran the resistivity.
574
00:20:15,792 --> 00:20:18,167
The reds are going to
be more conductive,
575
00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:20,042
and the blues are going
to be less conductive.
576
00:20:20,125 --> 00:20:23,500
So in my mind, haven't picked
up anything strange there.
577
00:20:23,542 --> 00:20:25,500
But this shows our
equipment's working
578
00:20:25,625 --> 00:20:27,333
good because you
can see right here
579
00:20:27,417 --> 00:20:29,458
in the middle is the cistern.
580
00:20:29,583 --> 00:20:33,083
And then underneath it, it
was just a higher resistance.
581
00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:34,667
So it's probably
just really dry.
582
00:20:34,708 --> 00:20:36,458
And what's our
maximum depth here?
583
00:20:36,542 --> 00:20:37,667
This goes about 80 feet.
584
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:39,167
PAUL BEBAN: OK.
585
00:20:39,208 --> 00:20:40,375
So, I mean, one thing
to keep in mind here,
586
00:20:40,458 --> 00:20:42,500
Andy, is what we
learned from Morehouse
587
00:20:42,583 --> 00:20:43,958
and the remote
viewing team is they
588
00:20:44,083 --> 00:20:47,250
were identifying targets
that were thousands of feet
589
00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:48,542
underground.
590
00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:50,125
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: So,
yeah, it certainly
591
00:20:50,208 --> 00:20:51,458
seems like whatever
underground anomalies
592
00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:54,667
might exist at that cistern,
they exceed 80 feet.
593
00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:57,042
Yeah, deeper than we can
detect with this equipment.
594
00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:58,333
ROBERT LEONARD: All right.
595
00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:01,792
So this is what we
did to the tree line.
596
00:21:01,875 --> 00:21:06,458
And we flew our drone up there
and didn't have a whole lot
597
00:21:06,542 --> 00:21:07,500
of luck flying the drone.
598
00:21:07,583 --> 00:21:10,167
It was not-- it was not happy.
599
00:21:10,250 --> 00:21:12,667
But we did get some
pretty good data.
600
00:21:12,708 --> 00:21:14,375
When we use a
magnetometer, we're reading
601
00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:15,833
the Earth's magnetic field.
602
00:21:15,875 --> 00:21:17,792
The blues are going
to be less conductive.
603
00:21:17,875 --> 00:21:20,167
And you can see on
the little scale chart
604
00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,167
there, not much of a change.
605
00:21:22,208 --> 00:21:25,500
So I, myself, would just kind
of pass this off as nothing.
606
00:21:25,542 --> 00:21:27,708
But that doesn't mean something
weird isn't going on there,
607
00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:29,500
it's just we can't
see it underground.
608
00:21:29,583 --> 00:21:31,542
PAUL BEBAN: This was
the launch site where
609
00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:34,000
on our last investigation
here, the rocket
610
00:21:34,083 --> 00:21:35,500
just veered wildly off course.
611
00:21:35,583 --> 00:21:37,333
But what you're saying, it
doesn't look like there's
612
00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:38,833
anything on the ground--
613
00:21:38,917 --> 00:21:40,333
Right.
614
00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:41,333
--or underground that
would have caused that.
615
00:21:41,417 --> 00:21:43,083
ROBERT LEONARD: It looks--
616
00:21:43,208 --> 00:21:45,000
I mean, that's kind of as plain
as you're ever going to see it.
617
00:21:45,083 --> 00:21:47,500
What we're seeing in the
tree line, what we're seeing
618
00:21:47,542 --> 00:21:51,167
at the cistern, is not strange
in terms of the first 80
619
00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:52,667
to 100 feet of topsoil.
620
00:21:52,708 --> 00:21:55,333
Just happy we didn't
crash it this time.
621
00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,375
All right, you ready to
go to the landing site?
622
00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:58,792
Yeah, let's do it.
623
00:21:58,792 --> 00:22:01,542
This one's a little
perplexing to me.
624
00:22:01,625 --> 00:22:03,667
We were able to get
most of our grid.
625
00:22:03,708 --> 00:22:09,000
But all that black area there
is no magnetometer data.
626
00:22:09,167 --> 00:22:10,250
I can't explain it.
627
00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:11,542
It's never happened before.
628
00:22:11,625 --> 00:22:13,167
You've never seen this before?
629
00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:14,542
Never seen it
like that before.
630
00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:16,292
But the GPS was working.
631
00:22:16,375 --> 00:22:17,667
The drone was flying
over this area.
632
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:20,042
It just wasn't-- the
magnetometer was not
633
00:22:20,125 --> 00:22:21,417
collecting data from that area.
634
00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:23,000
ROBERT LEONARD: Yeah.
Think about it.
635
00:22:23,083 --> 00:22:24,208
It has to go back and forth.
636
00:22:24,292 --> 00:22:26,167
So now it's collecting,
now it's not.
637
00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:27,542
Now it's collecting,
now it's not.
638
00:22:27,667 --> 00:22:29,292
So that's what I
don't understand.
639
00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:31,292
So it's like an
on/off, on/off--
640
00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:32,208
ROBERT LEONARD: Yeah.
641
00:22:32,292 --> 00:22:33,750
So weird.
642
00:22:33,833 --> 00:22:36,167
That's where we were
flipping the Frisbee where
643
00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:37,875
we had that snowless circle.
644
00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:39,500
PAUL BEBAN: This is
also the place where
645
00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,583
during our first
investigation on this ranch,
646
00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:44,208
our rocket failed
to deploy its chute
647
00:22:44,292 --> 00:22:46,708
and crash landed right
inside that black area.
648
00:22:46,792 --> 00:22:50,333
And we've hypothesize that the
reason it crashed is because it
649
00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:52,667
passed through
some kind of aerial
650
00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:57,833
anomaly at some 1,400 to 1,600
feet above this location.
651
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Dr. Morehouse also showed us
a very distinct drawing compiled
652
00:23:01,125 --> 00:23:03,667
from multiple remote viewers
that showed two different types
653
00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:06,125
of anomalies at two
different altitudes
654
00:23:06,208 --> 00:23:09,333
with two different energies
that coincided with each other.
655
00:23:09,375 --> 00:23:10,958
PAUL BEBAN: Right.
656
00:23:11,042 --> 00:23:13,833
Is there some kind of
disturbance at different levels?
657
00:23:13,917 --> 00:23:16,958
Whatever electronic
interference is going on,
658
00:23:16,958 --> 00:23:19,875
there's some kind of
pattern you guys are onto.
659
00:23:19,875 --> 00:23:21,667
Something weird's
going on out here.
660
00:23:21,708 --> 00:23:23,500
We're getting
all this weird data
661
00:23:23,583 --> 00:23:28,000
that keeps asking us to look
up, look up at the sky here.
662
00:23:28,083 --> 00:23:30,458
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Specifically
in that landing site area.
663
00:23:30,542 --> 00:23:32,167
There really is
something about this area
664
00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:35,250
that points to all the same
telltale signs of a portal.
665
00:23:35,375 --> 00:23:38,500
[music playing]
666
00:23:41,625 --> 00:23:44,083
You know, we came here looking
to see if there was something
667
00:23:44,167 --> 00:23:45,833
worth exploring underground.
668
00:23:45,917 --> 00:23:48,625
And all of our data is pointing
us back towards the sky.
669
00:23:48,708 --> 00:23:51,333
Even with the Terra team, even
with Terra Exploration where
670
00:23:51,458 --> 00:23:53,000
we're looking to figure
out what's going on
671
00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:55,750
with these underground
anomalies that Morehouse
672
00:23:55,833 --> 00:23:57,542
and the remote viewers
pointed us toward,
673
00:23:57,625 --> 00:23:59,000
we're still looking
up in the sky.
674
00:23:59,083 --> 00:24:02,083
We saw the drone fighting
right as we tried to get it
675
00:24:02,167 --> 00:24:03,542
to fly over the landing site.
676
00:24:03,625 --> 00:24:04,958
I don't know what
was going on there,
677
00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:08,125
but we lost half of the
data from the magnetometer.
678
00:24:08,208 --> 00:24:10,875
I feel like we need to find
a way to engage the phenomenon,
679
00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:13,833
actually explore the boundaries
of the anomaly overhead.
680
00:24:13,917 --> 00:24:15,500
In that case, I
mean, I think there's
681
00:24:15,583 --> 00:24:17,417
only really one way to go.
682
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,125
We've got to bring
in like precision.
683
00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:20,417
We need to launch more rockets.
684
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,125
Yeah, rockets seem
like the best solution
685
00:24:22,208 --> 00:24:24,667
here because we get to decide
when they go, where they go,
686
00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:25,833
and how high they go.
687
00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,667
One of the things
I want to do is
688
00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:28,542
I want to put some careful
attention into the payloads
689
00:24:28,625 --> 00:24:29,792
that we put into the rockets.
690
00:24:29,875 --> 00:24:31,792
Really, every rocket
we launch should
691
00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:34,208
have a payload with multiple
data sensors inside it.
692
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:35,917
That way, we have
multiple chances
693
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,875
to collect whatever data is
actually happening in the sky.
694
00:24:37,875 --> 00:24:38,875
Right.
695
00:24:38,875 --> 00:24:40,833
Bigger payloads, bigger
rockets, just a bigger
696
00:24:40,833 --> 00:24:42,125
shot at this this time around.
697
00:24:42,125 --> 00:24:44,792
[music playing]
698
00:24:50,792 --> 00:24:52,417
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Morning, guys.
PAUL BEBAN: Morning.
699
00:24:52,542 --> 00:24:53,583
MIKE TURICIK: How are you?
- Good to see you again.
700
00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:54,833
PAUL BEBAN: Good to see you.
701
00:24:54,917 --> 00:24:56,167
MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy
and Paul have called
702
00:24:56,292 --> 00:24:57,667
in Skinwalker rocket experts.
703
00:24:57,708 --> 00:25:00,833
Allen Isdell and Mike
Turicik from Loc Precision
704
00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:04,000
to help them conduct a rocket
test at the landing site,
705
00:25:04,083 --> 00:25:07,375
an area where they think there
could be a possible portal
706
00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:08,958
above Rocky Mountain Ranch.
707
00:25:09,042 --> 00:25:10,458
We're excited
to have you back.
708
00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:12,208
This area specifically
that we're set up on
709
00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:14,750
is one of the strangest from
our first experiment here.
710
00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,208
Yeah.
No, the last year was--
711
00:25:16,208 --> 00:25:17,833
I mean, that was
a very odd launch.
712
00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:20,958
Good flight up, no
ejection charge, right?
713
00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:23,292
Rocket never separated,
no parachute.
714
00:25:23,375 --> 00:25:24,333
That was not common.
715
00:25:24,375 --> 00:25:27,042
[rocket whirring]
716
00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:28,917
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: We had
some sort of anomaly
717
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,125
that brought our
previous rocket down
718
00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:33,708
almost exactly on this spot.
719
00:25:33,792 --> 00:25:34,500
[bleep]
720
00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:37,375
What is going on?
721
00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:41,708
And it was a very distinct, very
significant spike in EMF energy
722
00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:45,292
at altitude at the peak
of the rocket's launch.
723
00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:46,667
Right.
724
00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:47,917
And since then, we've
confirmed that there's
725
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,542
multiple sources
of data that show
726
00:25:49,625 --> 00:25:51,375
that there's some kind
of anomalous activity
727
00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:53,000
somewhere around here.
728
00:25:53,083 --> 00:25:55,292
So we've actually opted to
have two launch sites and two
729
00:25:55,375 --> 00:25:56,667
different rockets
that we're trying
730
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:58,583
to launch into the same area.
731
00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:01,042
MOCEAN MELVIN: The plan is to
launch two rockets from two
732
00:26:01,125 --> 00:26:04,042
different locations, both
aimed at the airspace
733
00:26:04,167 --> 00:26:07,792
above the landing site where
the data the team has collected
734
00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,167
suggests there
could be a portal.
735
00:26:10,292 --> 00:26:12,833
See if we can't really poke
that hornet's nest a little bit
736
00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:14,167
and see what's going on.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Awesome.
737
00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:15,500
PAUL BEBAN: Perfect.
738
00:26:15,583 --> 00:26:16,542
You can tell Allen's
been on our team
739
00:26:16,625 --> 00:26:17,667
with the terminology he uses.
740
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,417
ALLEN ISDELL: Yep.
741
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:21,042
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: He's picking
up on the Skinwalker lingo.
742
00:26:21,125 --> 00:26:22,333
I like it.
743
00:26:22,458 --> 00:26:23,750
MOCEAN MELVIN: The
Warlock is a four
744
00:26:23,833 --> 00:26:25,583
and a half foot
rocket that can reach
745
00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:28,000
a height of almost 2,000 feet.
746
00:26:28,042 --> 00:26:32,292
Since an electromagnetic spike
was recorded at 1,800 feet right
747
00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:35,125
before the rocket crashed
in their first investigation
748
00:26:35,208 --> 00:26:39,000
at Rocky Mountain ranch, Andy
and Paul will equip this rocket
749
00:26:39,083 --> 00:26:42,750
with a payload consisting of a
trifield meter that will capture
750
00:26:42,833 --> 00:26:45,917
the electromagnetic energy
readings throughout the launch,
751
00:26:46,042 --> 00:26:48,875
and a camera that
will record the data.
752
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:50,958
This rocket will be
launched directly
753
00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:53,917
underneath the aerial
target at the landing site.
754
00:26:54,042 --> 00:26:56,750
The team will watch for any
alterations in the rocket's
755
00:26:56,875 --> 00:26:58,917
normal flight path
that might indicate
756
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,000
the presence of a portal or
unknown force in the sky.
757
00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:06,667
I have to admit, this
particular launch has me on pins
758
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,417
and needles a little bit.
759
00:27:08,417 --> 00:27:10,792
It was so unnatural seeing the
rocket tumble to the ground
760
00:27:10,875 --> 00:27:12,458
last time right here.
- Right.
761
00:27:12,542 --> 00:27:14,958
And now we're actually doing it
right from the same location.
762
00:27:15,042 --> 00:27:17,458
And we know we're targeting
a specific altitude.
763
00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:18,917
We've got a larger rocket.
764
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,792
It kind of feels like
we're looking for trouble.
765
00:27:20,875 --> 00:27:22,625
Yeah, that's
one way to put it.
766
00:27:22,708 --> 00:27:26,125
[music playing]
767
00:27:30,208 --> 00:27:31,292
All right.
768
00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:32,167
All right.
769
00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:33,667
Skies clear, Mike?
770
00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,167
MIKE TURICIK: Skies
clear, free of aircraft.
771
00:27:35,208 --> 00:27:36,125
ALLEN ISDELL: All right.
772
00:27:36,208 --> 00:27:37,667
Arm in the pad.
773
00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:39,167
Range is hot.
774
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:44,583
Going in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
775
00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:48,042
[music playing]
776
00:27:49,208 --> 00:27:51,167
[rocket whirring]
777
00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:52,292
GREG: Good flight.
778
00:27:52,375 --> 00:27:53,208
All right.
779
00:27:53,292 --> 00:27:54,583
Watch for an event.
780
00:27:54,667 --> 00:27:55,875
It's out.
Come on.
781
00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:57,375
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look out.
- Come on.
782
00:27:57,375 --> 00:27:58,500
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look out.
783
00:27:58,542 --> 00:27:59,333
MIKE TURICIK: Give
me your chute.
784
00:27:59,417 --> 00:28:00,500
Give me your chute.
785
00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:02,000
[music playing]
786
00:28:02,042 --> 00:28:02,667
Oh!
787
00:28:02,708 --> 00:28:05,042
Oh my goodness.
788
00:28:05,125 --> 00:28:08,292
ALLEN ISDELL:
Yeah, that's twice.
789
00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:09,417
Twice.
790
00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:12,375
Outside of here
and Skinwalker,
791
00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,000
95% or better success rate.
792
00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:15,500
PAUL BEBAN: Uh huh.
- Oh, wow.
793
00:28:15,583 --> 00:28:16,375
OK.
794
00:28:16,458 --> 00:28:18,208
Here, 50/50.
795
00:28:18,292 --> 00:28:19,875
I was going to say.
796
00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:21,167
ALLEN ISDELL: Right at apogee,
you know, it's perfect.
797
00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:23,125
Nice arc over,
everything looked good.
798
00:28:23,208 --> 00:28:25,542
And then we should have
had our chute deploy--
799
00:28:25,625 --> 00:28:26,667
nothing.
800
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:29,833
What caused that to not deploy?
801
00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:33,083
This may have been right
in the exact same spot.
802
00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:34,958
MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy
and Greg head off
803
00:28:35,042 --> 00:28:38,375
to retrieve the rocket to see
if any of the data inside it
804
00:28:38,458 --> 00:28:40,333
survived the crash.
805
00:28:40,375 --> 00:28:42,667
Whoo.
806
00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:43,667
Oh, man.
807
00:28:46,083 --> 00:28:48,458
This guy is just destroyed.
808
00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:50,250
This is a punch to the gut.
809
00:28:50,375 --> 00:28:53,500
Almost everything got destroyed
when this rocket hit the ground.
810
00:28:53,625 --> 00:28:55,167
But the one silver
lining here, though,
811
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:56,875
is that we're getting
repeat results.
812
00:28:56,875 --> 00:28:58,583
This is almost the
exact same outcome
813
00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:02,542
that we had when we launched a
large rocket from the cistern
814
00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:03,625
during our first experiment.
815
00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:05,583
[music playing]
816
00:29:05,708 --> 00:29:07,292
Ho, ho, ho, man.
817
00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:09,667
I don't know if our little egg
survived that crash test, man.
818
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:10,583
PAUL BEBAN: Oh my god.
819
00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:11,500
Look at that.
820
00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:12,583
Oh, wow.
Look at that.
821
00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:13,958
Wow.
Ooh.
822
00:29:14,083 --> 00:29:14,667
Oof.
823
00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:15,375
Oh, man.
824
00:29:17,458 --> 00:29:18,667
ALLEN ISDELL: Oh.
825
00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:19,333
PAUL BEBAN: Well,
that's not promising.
826
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,917
No.
827
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,167
Everyone's heart just
kind of drops to the floor
828
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:23,958
because this thing is
completely shattered,
829
00:29:24,042 --> 00:29:25,417
just catastrophic failure.
830
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:26,667
We're picking up the pieces.
831
00:29:26,708 --> 00:29:28,917
But in those pieces,
this is data.
832
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,708
This is results that
we can use to try
833
00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:32,333
to further this investigation.
834
00:29:32,375 --> 00:29:36,458
So the good news is that
these are still in one piece--
835
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:37,917
the two cameras.
836
00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:39,833
MIKE TURICIK: We'll be
able to pull the cards.
837
00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:42,583
Where is the
charge that should
838
00:29:42,667 --> 00:29:44,500
have launched the parachute?
839
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:45,708
ALLEN ISDELL: Never went off.
840
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:46,625
It never went off?
841
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:47,458
Never went off.
842
00:29:47,542 --> 00:29:48,833
Never deployed.
843
00:29:48,875 --> 00:29:49,708
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Huh.
844
00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:51,250
That's odd.
845
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:52,958
That's very odd.
846
00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:58,000
It burned through, and there's a
charred residue from the powder.
847
00:29:58,042 --> 00:30:01,417
But it never kicked out the
cap to deploy the rocket.
848
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,625
Which would have been
the cap getting pushed out.
849
00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,958
I mean, to see it
burned and still have
850
00:30:06,042 --> 00:30:08,333
that little plug cap
in, it's the first time
851
00:30:08,417 --> 00:30:10,167
we've ever seen this happen.
852
00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:11,833
Wow.
853
00:30:11,875 --> 00:30:13,667
You know, there's definitely
some phenomenon going on.
854
00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:15,833
Well, the phenomenon
is not with the rocket.
855
00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:17,792
The phenomenon is what the
rocket is entering into.
856
00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:18,583
- Right.
- It's got to be.
857
00:30:18,667 --> 00:30:20,083
PAUL BEBAN: Exactly.
858
00:30:20,167 --> 00:30:22,417
I mean, here we have two
instances separated by time,
859
00:30:22,542 --> 00:30:24,500
and we have very
similar results.
860
00:30:24,583 --> 00:30:25,750
This is weird.
861
00:30:25,833 --> 00:30:28,042
There's something
going on up there.
862
00:30:28,125 --> 00:30:30,333
Let's see if the next
one will do better.
863
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,875
MOCEAN MELVIN: For
the final launch,
864
00:30:36,958 --> 00:30:39,167
the team sets up their
next rocket about
865
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:42,375
350 feet south at the cistern.
866
00:30:42,458 --> 00:30:45,833
Having already targeted the
aerial anomaly from the landing
867
00:30:45,917 --> 00:30:49,208
site itself, the plan is
to launch the second rocket
868
00:30:49,292 --> 00:30:51,833
directed at the same
area in the sky,
869
00:30:51,958 --> 00:30:53,875
but this time from
a different angle
870
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,750
to see what additional
data it might collect.
871
00:30:56,875 --> 00:30:57,750
All right.
872
00:30:57,833 --> 00:30:59,500
The grand finale.
873
00:30:59,583 --> 00:31:01,958
We've got our largest payload,
too, that we've ever flown here.
874
00:31:01,958 --> 00:31:04,125
So, I mean, whatever aerial
anomaly might be here,
875
00:31:04,208 --> 00:31:05,750
we're looking at hitting it
right now from a completely
876
00:31:05,833 --> 00:31:07,333
different angle.
877
00:31:07,375 --> 00:31:09,292
And by going up 3,000
feet, we potentially have
878
00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:11,417
the opportunity to hit
it going up and then
879
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,458
again coming back down.
880
00:31:12,542 --> 00:31:13,375
Right.
881
00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:14,375
That is a massive--
882
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:15,333
Look at that thing.
883
00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:16,208
--massive rocket.
884
00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:17,333
That is taller than you, Allen.
885
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:18,833
[laughing]
886
00:31:18,917 --> 00:31:20,583
Well, are we ready to
put it up in the air?
887
00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:22,292
ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Yes, absolutely.
888
00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:23,250
I can't wait.
889
00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:25,083
MOCEAN MELVIN: The
eight foot tall
890
00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:29,167
Loc VII rocket can reach an
altitude of up to 3,000 feet.
891
00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:32,208
The Loc VII is equipped
with a trifield meter,
892
00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:36,167
spectrum analyzer, Geiger
counter, and GPS tracker.
893
00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:38,958
If this launch is
successful, it would collect
894
00:31:39,042 --> 00:31:41,667
more data than any
rocket experiment
895
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:43,667
executed on Skinwalker Ranch.
896
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:44,833
[beeping]
897
00:31:44,875 --> 00:31:46,625
All right, we're good.
898
00:31:46,708 --> 00:31:47,917
All right, let's do it.
899
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,875
[music playing]
900
00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:52,375
All right.
901
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:53,417
Sky clear?
902
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:54,333
MIKE TURICIK: Yes, sir.
903
00:31:54,417 --> 00:31:55,792
[music playing]
904
00:31:55,875 --> 00:31:58,625
ALLEN ISDELL: Pad's armed.
905
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:04,333
Going in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
906
00:32:04,417 --> 00:32:06,458
[music playing]
907
00:32:06,542 --> 00:32:08,417
[high pitched buzzing]
908
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:11,000
[rocket whirring]
909
00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:12,042
PAUL BEBAN: Holy smokes.
910
00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:13,417
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Wow.
911
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,917
Good flight.
912
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,708
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That
is right over our heads.
913
00:32:16,792 --> 00:32:18,167
ALLEN ISDELL: We're at apogee.
914
00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:19,042
It's down.
915
00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:21,625
Oh, nice.
We got a chute.
916
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:22,458
Wow.
917
00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:24,500
Woo.
918
00:32:24,542 --> 00:32:26,500
I'll tell you what, my
heart was in my throat
919
00:32:26,583 --> 00:32:27,375
there for a second.
920
00:32:27,458 --> 00:32:28,208
I was like--
921
00:32:28,292 --> 00:32:29,500
Hands up.
922
00:32:29,542 --> 00:32:30,792
It's right over us.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yep.
923
00:32:30,875 --> 00:32:32,417
ALLEN ISDELL: It's
a beautiful thing.
924
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,000
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Still coming
down right at us, though.
925
00:32:34,125 --> 00:32:35,500
Make sure you got a clear
path if you need to move.
926
00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:36,833
MIKE TURICIK: You got it.
927
00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:38,417
ALLEN ISDELL: Let's
see, into the trees.
928
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:39,833
Clear the power lines.
929
00:32:39,917 --> 00:32:40,875
She's on the ground.
930
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,833
MIKE TURICIK: In the trees.
931
00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:44,500
ALLEN ISDELL: Yep,
she's on the ground.
932
00:32:44,542 --> 00:32:45,667
All right.
- Beautiful.
933
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:46,542
Greg, you ready, man?
934
00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:47,458
Yes let's go.
935
00:32:47,458 --> 00:32:49,208
[music playing]
936
00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,208
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: We had
a textbook launch that's
937
00:32:51,292 --> 00:32:53,167
going to bring back the
largest payload of data
938
00:32:53,292 --> 00:32:55,917
that we've ever had in any of
our previous investigations.
939
00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:58,375
Not only is today going
to inform Paul and I's
940
00:32:58,458 --> 00:33:00,750
ongoing investigations here
in Rocky Mountain Ranch,
941
00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:03,083
but it's also going to inform
the investigations that are
942
00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:05,375
happening at Skinwalker Ranch.
943
00:33:05,542 --> 00:33:06,000
There she is.
944
00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:09,333
[music playing]
945
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:12,667
Yeah, the payload
should be fine.
946
00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:13,583
Everything looks good.
947
00:33:13,667 --> 00:33:16,625
[music playing]
948
00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:18,833
What's the matter?
949
00:33:18,917 --> 00:33:21,333
It's saying we hit 1,300 feet.
950
00:33:21,417 --> 00:33:24,333
But the other one
was 1,400, right?
951
00:33:24,375 --> 00:33:25,500
Yeah.
952
00:33:25,583 --> 00:33:26,833
It looked a lot--
953
00:33:26,917 --> 00:33:28,583
And that appeared
to go a lot higher.
954
00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:30,333
It sure seemed like it.
955
00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:33,250
So that's-- obviously,
that's completely off.
956
00:33:33,333 --> 00:33:35,083
The altitude
definitely seems wrong.
957
00:33:35,167 --> 00:33:39,583
The range-- distance from
launch pad to where it landed--
958
00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:42,958
I mean, this is saying it's
less than 1,000 feet away.
959
00:33:43,042 --> 00:33:44,750
That's definitely
more than 1,000 feet.
960
00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,958
PAUL BEBAN: That looks
like more than 1,000 feet.
961
00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:48,542
And that's more
like half mile.
962
00:33:48,625 --> 00:33:50,583
So, I mean, what is this
telling you right now?
963
00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:52,708
I mean, the GPS is not
functioning properly.
964
00:33:52,792 --> 00:33:54,917
There's definitely
something going on with that.
965
00:33:55,042 --> 00:33:56,292
Yeah, we'll have to
download the data and see.
966
00:33:56,375 --> 00:33:57,625
Yeah.
967
00:33:57,625 --> 00:33:58,542
PAUL BEBAN (VOICEOVER):
So we got a clean launch
968
00:33:58,625 --> 00:34:00,292
and landing here.
969
00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:01,750
But already, we're seeing that
there's some kind of problems.
970
00:34:01,833 --> 00:34:04,625
Even when it seems like
everything has gone perfectly,
971
00:34:04,708 --> 00:34:07,833
the ranch seems to be
interfering with our instruments
972
00:34:07,958 --> 00:34:09,500
once again.
973
00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:11,125
I mean, we just can't figure
out what's going on here.
974
00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:12,833
You know, because
line of sight is good.
975
00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:14,333
PAUL BEBAN: Yep.
976
00:34:14,375 --> 00:34:15,958
But with this, we're
communicating via satellite,
977
00:34:16,042 --> 00:34:17,458
so it's signals
going up and down.
978
00:34:17,542 --> 00:34:18,833
Right.
979
00:34:18,917 --> 00:34:20,042
So that means something
going up and down
980
00:34:20,125 --> 00:34:21,958
is throwing that off.
981
00:34:22,042 --> 00:34:24,500
I mean, it speaks to--
again-- possibly some kind
982
00:34:24,583 --> 00:34:27,625
of electromagnetic
anomaly that's possibly
983
00:34:27,708 --> 00:34:28,583
affecting the instruments.
984
00:34:28,708 --> 00:34:30,083
Yeah.
985
00:34:30,167 --> 00:34:31,208
PAUL BEBAN: Already,
things are a little weird.
986
00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:32,792
ALLEN ISDELL: They are.
987
00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:34,708
PAUL BEBAN: All right.
ALLEN ISDELL: How's she look?
988
00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:35,667
Aw, man.
989
00:34:35,708 --> 00:34:37,167
Pretty awesome.
990
00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:38,833
Hot rocket coming.
991
00:34:38,875 --> 00:34:39,667
Here you go.
992
00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:43,125
[music playing]
993
00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:45,958
Looking good.
994
00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:47,208
Well, everything is in tact.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look at that.
995
00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:48,667
MIKE TURICIK:
Intact and running.
996
00:34:48,708 --> 00:34:49,625
Everything's running.
997
00:34:49,708 --> 00:34:50,458
Yep.
998
00:34:50,542 --> 00:34:52,042
Fantastic.
999
00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,708
I think we can safely say
this was the single most
1000
00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:56,542
successful rocket experiment--
1001
00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,208
Right.
1002
00:34:58,208 --> 00:35:00,333
--on this ranch or
Skinwalker Ranch because every
1003
00:35:00,417 --> 00:35:01,833
payload they put up like this--
1004
00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,167
Yeah.
1005
00:35:03,250 --> 00:35:04,583
--I think has been
affected in some way.
1006
00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,208
We got our rocket
and our instruments.
1007
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:07,792
- All back.
- First.
1008
00:35:07,875 --> 00:35:09,250
Well, wait until you hear.
1009
00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:11,542
So we got good flight,
good recovery, weird data.
1010
00:35:11,625 --> 00:35:12,333
What?
1011
00:35:12,375 --> 00:35:13,542
Yeah.
1012
00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:15,833
GPS data is going
all over the place.
1013
00:35:15,875 --> 00:35:16,917
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: No way.
- Yeah.
1014
00:35:17,042 --> 00:35:18,208
OK.
1015
00:35:18,292 --> 00:35:19,833
So what looked
like a pretty awesome
1016
00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:23,458
launch still had some anomalous
readings in the GPS arena?
1017
00:35:23,542 --> 00:35:24,667
Yeah.
1018
00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:26,417
Let's pack up and take
it back to the shop.
1019
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:27,125
Sounds good.
1020
00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:27,833
PAUL BEBAN: OK.
1021
00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:37,958
Andy and Paul, tell
us about your adventures
1022
00:35:38,042 --> 00:35:39,542
at Rocky Mountain Ranch.
1023
00:35:39,625 --> 00:35:41,708
PAUL BEBAN: It's always an
adventure, that is for sure.
1024
00:35:41,792 --> 00:35:45,417
We got some results here that I
think both confirm a lot of what
1025
00:35:45,542 --> 00:35:47,833
we set out to understand,
but opened up,
1026
00:35:47,917 --> 00:35:49,333
again, just more questions.
1027
00:35:49,375 --> 00:35:51,250
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: We started
by splitting up right
1028
00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:52,708
out of the gate so
that we could try
1029
00:35:52,792 --> 00:35:54,333
to maximize our time on target.
PAUL BEBAN: Yes.
1030
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:56,542
And I took Katie Paige,
the original experiencer,
1031
00:35:56,625 --> 00:35:57,667
back to the ranch.
1032
00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:00,542
She shared with me the
location of a place
1033
00:36:00,625 --> 00:36:03,458
where she and her sister,
as a child, used to play.
1034
00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:06,250
An area that she described
as strange because it
1035
00:36:06,375 --> 00:36:07,708
was perpetually barren.
1036
00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:09,542
How large of an area
are we talking about here?
1037
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:10,667
ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
About 70 feet across--
1038
00:36:10,708 --> 00:36:12,167
Oh, wow.
1039
00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:13,292
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: --and
an almost perfect circle.
1040
00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:14,667
Yeah, so it's a
pretty big space.
1041
00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:17,875
And it actually also
corresponds with details written
1042
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,625
in the APRO report as well.
1043
00:36:19,708 --> 00:36:22,792
And then this is where
our rocket crashed.
1044
00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:25,917
Last time we were there, the
rocket fell in the same location
1045
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,375
as that circle.
1046
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,750
So we have this corresponding
location that she
1047
00:36:29,875 --> 00:36:31,708
calls the landing site.
1048
00:36:31,792 --> 00:36:33,167
That's really interesting.
1049
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:34,458
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: So
during our investigation,
1050
00:36:34,542 --> 00:36:36,333
we had the Terra
Exploration Team join us.
1051
00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:40,292
And they ran a
aerial magnetometer
1052
00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:42,042
over the landing site.
1053
00:36:42,125 --> 00:36:46,333
The black area is an area where
the drone and the magnetometer
1054
00:36:46,417 --> 00:36:48,458
failed to pick up any data.
1055
00:36:48,542 --> 00:36:52,458
Isn't the circle right
where the black dot data is?
1056
00:36:52,542 --> 00:36:54,208
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yes, sir.
1057
00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:55,708
TRAVIS TAYLOR: So they
couldn't get magnetometer
1058
00:36:55,792 --> 00:36:56,917
data of the circle?
1059
00:36:57,042 --> 00:36:58,042
ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
That's exactly right.
1060
00:36:58,167 --> 00:36:59,208
That's important to me.
1061
00:36:59,292 --> 00:37:00,667
That's very suggestive.
1062
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,417
Yeah.
1063
00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:05,542
We also called in one of the
largest remote viewing exercises
1064
00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:08,167
to have ever been done,
led by Dr. Morehouse.
1065
00:37:08,208 --> 00:37:09,667
I remember that now, yes.
1066
00:37:09,708 --> 00:37:11,250
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yeah.
1067
00:37:11,375 --> 00:37:13,917
And some of the results that
the remote viewing team was
1068
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,333
able to give us about what
they were sensing and viewing
1069
00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:20,167
at this location
is energy flowing
1070
00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:22,583
through a second set of energy.
1071
00:37:22,667 --> 00:37:26,000
The story is really coalescing
around this one location--
1072
00:37:26,083 --> 00:37:27,667
the landing site--
1073
00:37:27,667 --> 00:37:30,167
so we decided to double
down on exploring
1074
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:31,917
our aerial anomalies more.
1075
00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:34,292
We called in Loc Precision
because of the results
1076
00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:36,333
that we just got from the
Terra Exploration Team.
1077
00:37:36,375 --> 00:37:38,125
I'm very comfortable
with that approach.
1078
00:37:38,208 --> 00:37:39,375
You're being led by your data.
1079
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,125
That's what we say
here all the time.
1080
00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:44,000
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Here is our
actual rocket launch centered
1081
00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:47,667
in the landing site itself,
launched from the ground up
1082
00:37:47,708 --> 00:37:49,667
through the anomaly
near the landing site.
1083
00:37:49,833 --> 00:37:50,958
ERIK BARD: OK.
1084
00:37:51,042 --> 00:37:54,250
[rocket whirring]
1085
00:37:55,667 --> 00:37:56,667
MIKE TURICIK: Come on.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look out.
1086
00:37:56,792 --> 00:37:57,917
MIKE TURICIK: Give
me your chute.
1087
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,708
Give me your chute.
1088
00:37:58,792 --> 00:38:01,583
[beeping]
1089
00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:02,375
Oh!
1090
00:38:02,458 --> 00:38:03,458
MIKE TURICIK: Lawn dart.
1091
00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:04,708
Very similar to
the malfunction
1092
00:38:04,708 --> 00:38:06,083
that we had the
first time we sent
1093
00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:07,583
something through this anomaly.
1094
00:38:07,667 --> 00:38:11,000
And all of the SD
cards were corrupted.
1095
00:38:11,083 --> 00:38:12,500
Wow.
1096
00:38:12,583 --> 00:38:15,250
We sent them to a data
recovery specialist,
1097
00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:16,542
and could not pull the data.
1098
00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:18,542
The cards were
completely corrupted.
1099
00:38:18,625 --> 00:38:20,708
What got us excited
about this experiment
1100
00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:23,583
was that we had a
repeatable experiment.
1101
00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:26,292
We put a rocket through
the same aerial anomaly
1102
00:38:26,375 --> 00:38:28,167
at a different point in time.
1103
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:30,917
But in both cases, there
was systematic failure
1104
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,333
of the rocket.
1105
00:38:32,417 --> 00:38:34,167
And in this case, with
the payload on board,
1106
00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:35,500
we also had some
sort of electrical
1107
00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:37,667
or digital corruption.
1108
00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:40,083
I got to tell you, Andy,
that point is not wasted on us.
1109
00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:41,333
TRAVIS TAYLOR: No.
1110
00:38:41,458 --> 00:38:42,542
ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
So we came prepared
1111
00:38:42,625 --> 00:38:43,750
for this, which
is why we launched
1112
00:38:43,833 --> 00:38:45,875
a second rocket right
from the cistern
1113
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,667
aiming at the same anomaly.
1114
00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:48,917
ERIK BARD: OK.
1115
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,333
[rocket whirring]
1116
00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:51,542
TRAVIS TAYLOR: Oh,
that's massive.
1117
00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:52,833
ERIK BARD: That's gorgeous.
1118
00:38:52,917 --> 00:38:53,708
TRAVIS TAYLOR:
Beautiful launch, man.
1119
00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:54,458
Love that.
1120
00:38:54,542 --> 00:38:55,750
PAUL BEBAN: Holy smokes.
1121
00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:56,917
Wow.
1122
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,583
That is right over our heads.
1123
00:38:58,667 --> 00:39:01,708
So here's the live feed
from inside the rocket.
1124
00:39:01,792 --> 00:39:03,250
ERIK BARD: Yes.
Man, that's awesome.
1125
00:39:03,333 --> 00:39:04,083
The data is working.
1126
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:08,250
[rattling]
1127
00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:09,292
OK.
1128
00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:10,250
TRAVIS TAYLOR: Oh.
Oh.
1129
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:11,250
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
1130
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,333
ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
Yep, right here.
1131
00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:13,083
There
ERIK BARD: Right there.
1132
00:39:13,167 --> 00:39:14,000
There's a blip.
1133
00:39:14,042 --> 00:39:15,500
That gets my attention.
1134
00:39:15,583 --> 00:39:16,833
And, you know, the spectrum
analyzer is interesting.
1135
00:39:16,917 --> 00:39:19,292
It went-- it had a 1.7,
and it jumped to 1.4
1136
00:39:19,375 --> 00:39:21,458
when the trifield meter jumps.
1137
00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:22,375
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yes.
1138
00:39:22,458 --> 00:39:23,917
Now, that is interesting.
1139
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
I don't know what the
assignable cause for that
1140
00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:26,458
would be.
1141
00:39:26,542 --> 00:39:27,792
And we didn't have
an explanation for it.
1142
00:39:27,792 --> 00:39:29,667
But where both of
our minds took us was
1143
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:31,417
actually right back to this--
1144
00:39:31,542 --> 00:39:34,708
this drawing from the
remote viewing team.
1145
00:39:34,792 --> 00:39:38,333
Are we descending through
some kind of dynamic anomaly?
1146
00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:40,125
ERIK BARD: Yes.
1147
00:39:40,208 --> 00:39:47,000
Now, let's assume that this
is right in the peak location
1148
00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:50,542
that you were launching the
rocket toward this weird thing
1149
00:39:50,625 --> 00:39:51,667
here.
1150
00:39:51,792 --> 00:39:54,708
Before it gets to
that point, you're
1151
00:39:54,792 --> 00:40:00,167
seeing a 1.7 gigahertz signal
on the spectrum analyzer.
1152
00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:04,333
And then instantly, at some
point, we see a burst in the EMP
1153
00:40:04,458 --> 00:40:05,833
on the trifield meter.
1154
00:40:05,958 --> 00:40:10,667
You see it shift down
to 1.423 gigahertz.
1155
00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:13,875
That would mean that you
had a frequency change.
1156
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,625
And since frequency is telling
you what changing energy is
1157
00:40:17,625 --> 00:40:19,917
happening, then that
tells us that you
1158
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,417
went through some sort
of anomalous region
1159
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,917
that would be
reminiscent of a portal.
1160
00:40:25,042 --> 00:40:27,250
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: I mean, to
hear you talk about some sort
1161
00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:31,167
of portal behavior that is
stacked above the landing site
1162
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:34,958
that Katie remembers as a child,
that is in line with the area
1163
00:40:35,042 --> 00:40:37,417
that the ranch animals
don't want to go to,
1164
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,167
that is also in
line with where we
1165
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:42,583
lost magnetometer data from
the Terra Exploration Team.
1166
00:40:42,667 --> 00:40:45,000
I mean, this seems like
too many things happening
1167
00:40:45,125 --> 00:40:47,958
in one 70 foot diameter circle.
1168
00:40:47,958 --> 00:40:48,667
PAUL BEBAN: Right.
1169
00:40:48,792 --> 00:40:50,500
Like a pillar through sky.
1170
00:40:50,625 --> 00:40:53,792
I was just thinking, I was
just picturing this as a column.
1171
00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:57,333
TRAVIS TAYLOR: But you know
what it reminds me of, Eric?
1172
00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,750
The circle--
ERIK BARD: The circle.
1173
00:40:58,833 --> 00:41:00,708
--from the LiDAR data
that we got this year.
1174
00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:03,833
We measured a donut
about 50 feet in the air.
1175
00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:06,792
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: There
is a ring of data.
1176
00:41:06,875 --> 00:41:08,583
TRAVIS TAYLOR: Yes,
it looks like a donut.
1177
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,417
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yep.
1178
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:12,875
TRAVIS TAYLOR: What
in the actual crap?
1179
00:41:12,958 --> 00:41:15,583
That looks just like the
LiDAR data we took the summer,
1180
00:41:15,708 --> 00:41:17,333
and it's freaking me out.
1181
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:18,708
ANDY BUSTAMENTE:
That's interesting.
1182
00:41:18,792 --> 00:41:20,625
It is absolutely
freaking me out.
1183
00:41:20,708 --> 00:41:23,542
What we have found
here with this return
1184
00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:27,917
to Rocky Mountain Ranch is that
this landing site could really
1185
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,833
hold the key to whatever else is
happening on the entire ranch.
1186
00:41:31,875 --> 00:41:33,333
We're not done.
1187
00:41:33,458 --> 00:41:35,208
After two visits,
we're still not
1188
00:41:35,292 --> 00:41:36,667
done at Rocky Mountain Ranch.
1189
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:37,333
Right.
1190
00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:38,958
ERIK BARD: Yeah.
1191
00:41:39,042 --> 00:41:41,333
So we'll do some planning,
and we'll see you again soon.
1192
00:41:41,417 --> 00:41:42,167
All right, man.
1193
00:41:42,208 --> 00:41:43,000
Great work.
1194
00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:44,625
Fantastic work, guys.
1195
00:41:44,625 --> 00:41:45,667
Thank you for that.
ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Thank you.
1196
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:46,917
TRAVIS TAYLOR: Good stuff.
1197
00:41:47,042 --> 00:41:49,958
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