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Nate! Finally.
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Buddy, I can't believe
you're missing this, dude.
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The view up here is insane.
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The sunset on top of the bridge
is mind-blowing.
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They weren't joking when they said...
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What'd you say?
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I'm in Chinatown. There's...
there's some festival going on.
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Huh? What?
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I can barely hear you.
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Sorry, Tyler, there's people everywhere.
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Where are you?
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Yeah, I can't hear you. Say that again.
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Hang on a minute. I'm gonna move
away from the crowd.
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Huh? Can you say that
again, man? Where are you?
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Oh, it is chaos down here.
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You didn't show, so I tried calling you.
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Yeah, sorry.
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It's all good, I mean...
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I mean, the tour was at 8:00,
but where you been?
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The trolls were waiting
for me in the hotel lobby.
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Trolls? You lose 'em?
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so.
- Okay, good.
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Come to me. Jump in a cab and
I'll meet you when we get down.
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- Hello?
- Okay, I'll be there soon.
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- Oh!
- Nate?
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- The hell was that?
- Nate?
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Oh!
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Hello? Nate?
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You still with me, buddy?
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Nate!
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Stop messing around, dude.
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Hello?
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Nate!
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Hello? Nate?
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What's going on, buddy?
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Ugh. Shooter.
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Did you say 'shooter'?
Dude, it's hard to hear you.
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Did you say 'shooter'?
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- Someone's trying to kill me.
- What are you...
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What are you talking about?
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Okay, you need to
give me your location, man.
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Like, a street name, anything.
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- Just give me something.
- Ugh.
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Nate?
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Nate, buddy?
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Talk to me, Nate!
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Nate?!
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Dammit! Nate!
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Nate, talk to me!
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Buddy! Nate!
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Synced & corrected by -robtor-
www.addic7ed.com
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Special Agent Mackey, NCIS.
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Is there a problem?
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Thank you, Special Agent Mackey.
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Chief Petty Officer
Nathaniel 'Nate' Holbrook,
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stationed out of Mayport, Florida.
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He was out here on leave.
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Flew out with his brother
a few days ago.
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Thank you.
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Welcome to Sydney.
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The shots were fired about
a hundred meters down the road.
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That's where he caught
the wound to his torso.
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Stuffing from a toy koala.
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The shot went right through them both.
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Poor bastard ran
till he was brought down.
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Second round must
have gone through his heart
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if he dropped like that.
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He would have...
He would have died in seconds.
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- Anyone else hit?
- No.
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Packed street, and the killer
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focuses his fire on our boy.
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Why?
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Yeah, he seems to have a fan base too.
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- Holbrook, right?
- Yeah, Nathaniel Holbrook.
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Justice for Zoe!
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Justice for Zoe.
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True crime podcast superfans.
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Marsh Family Murders.
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It's a podcast based on
an Aussie family,
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two parents and a daughter,
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who were murdered on Thanksgiving Day.
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What happened in the end?
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Well, according to this,
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absolutely nothing.
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No one ever stood trial
for their deaths.
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But the main suspect
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was US Navy Chief Petty Officer...
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Nate Holbrook.
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Nate used to date the murdered
daughter, Zoe Marsh.
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Looks like someone
got their justice in the end.
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Sorry, little fella.
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You're supposed to be
a protected species.
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Evie!
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Got another one.
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Come on.
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Check it out.
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.308, full metal jacket.
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Favored by long-distance shooters.
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That's comforting.
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Sounds like we got ourselves a sniper.
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Angle of fire suggests the shooter
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had an elevated position.
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Plenty of options.
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Let's narrow 'em down, then.
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Damn! Hell of a shot.
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Yeah, I could make that.
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Girl, in your dreams.
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I took out Hansie from a moving boat.
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A croc chalked up that hit.
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- Oh, whatever.
- Ugh!
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Shooter doesn't seem
bothered about leaving evidence.
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D.
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What is that? Opal?
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Yeah, not just any opal. Black opal.
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Rarest of the rare.
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Not something you leave behind.
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Unless you're making a statement.
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Zoe Marsh, her mother, Jacquie,
and her father, Brendan,
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sat down to celebrate Thanksgiving
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with Zoe's boyfriend,
US Navy sailor Nate Holbrook.
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None of the Marsh family
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made it through to
the pumpkin pie dessert.
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Zoe's boyfriend
was found covered in blood,
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clutching a shotgun,
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with gunpowder residue on his hands.
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He had no plausible alibi, yet
the case never went to trial.
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Five years on and a lot
of people are still asking why.
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I'm Lucinda Wainwright.
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Join me as I find answers to
what really happened that day.
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The real mystery is why
they were celebrating Thanksgiving.
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It was Thanksgiving Day.
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It's not an Aussie thing, D.
You know that, right?
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Y'all appropriate Halloween.
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You know, why miss out on a chance
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to eat turkey and cornbread
with your nearest and dearest?
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Because turkey's a dry bird.
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See, now,
you ain't tried my grandma's turkey.
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The trick is buttermilk brine.
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Three whole days.
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Then there's the butter
that she slips under the skin.
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D...
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Bacon grease all over the breast meat.
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Then that special basting of her
garlic butter every half-hour.
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D, come on, you're giving me
hunger pains.
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Yeah, giving me a coronary.
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Does the podcast
have a theory as to motive?
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Episode 2: The Letters.
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Covers Nate's possible motive.
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According to the podcast,
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Zoe was suspected of cheating on Nate.
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He supposedly found letters
to her from a mystery lover
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and just snapped.
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Hmm.
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Theory is
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Nate then draped the letters
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over Zoe's body after he shot her.
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- The police charged him, right?
- Initially.
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But the Department
of Public Prosecutions
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declined to prosecute,
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as featured on Episode 6:
Justice Never Served.
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So what happened? Not enough evidence?
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See, to answer that, y'all
want Episode 7: Cover-Up.
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Which is part 1 of 2. It's a banger.
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Who did the covering up?
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Well, according to this, we did.
The US Navy.
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The NCIS case at the time
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states Nate was granted emergency leave.
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Once he returned to the States,
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charges were mysteriously dropped.
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- I want that file.
- Sitting in your inbox.
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Hey, Blue, how are we going,
uh, fingerprint-wise?
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Uh, not very wise. No prints.
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But I'm running the DNA
from the coffee cup
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and cigarettes from the sniper's nest.
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Figure we'll check out
the gun ranges around town.
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Guy was a hotshot.
Only comes with practice.
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Or natural talent.
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Bit of luck, we match the gun and ammo
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with the names from
the podcast's subscriber list.
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Now, um, I believe
you have my brother's body.
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Appreciate everything
you're... you're doing
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to catch whoever killed
my little brother.
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Why did Nate come back
after all these years?
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Wainwright got in contact.
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Sweet-talked Nate
into coming to Australia
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to tell his side of events.
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- Nate went on the podcast?
- Yeah.
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He recorded a vlog interview
yesterday with Lucinda.
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The Marshes were like a family to Nate.
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Zoe was his sweetheart.
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He couldn't stand the thought
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that the actual killer
was still out there, so...
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I mean, I came out to make sure
he had someone in his corner.
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I had to perform a full autopsy.
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I've, uh, sewn him back up,
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but you might find...
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..my handiwork a little confronting.
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I'd like to say
goodbye, if that's all right.
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That's fair enough.
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Hmm.
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He... uh, he worked
with his hands, I see.
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah, um, he was a machinist's mate.
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He said pulling engines apart and
putting them back together was...
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Well, it was his happy place.
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Mm-hm.
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God, I'm so sorry, bro.
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I let you down.
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Listen, son.
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You take your time.
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I mean, the grief of losing
someone close is unimaginable.
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But...
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Losing family, it's...
it's on another level entirely.
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You speaking from experience?
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Hmm.
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Just one thing that's been bugging me.
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Your brother, did he own a toy koala?
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Clarence.
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- Oh?
- Yeah, we, uh...
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I bought him for...
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..for, uh, our niece.
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We made sure Clarence
photobombed all of our pictures.
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We were actually gonna go hiking
in the Blue Mountains today.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry for your loss.
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I pulled the cold case files.
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Maybe shed some light on whether
Nate really killed that family.
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It's kind of beside the point.
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All that really matters is whether
or not our killer believed he did.
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Hi. Come on through.
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Oh, my ex enjoyed
The Chancery Lane Killings.
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Used to listen to it on long
road trips down the coast.
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Killer went down for it in the end,
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thanks to your investigation,
if I remember.
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I like to think I played a small part
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in reopening the case.
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What about you, Agent Mackey?
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I liked Serial. That one of yours?
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No.
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Hm.
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Maybe we should talk about
Nate Holbrook's murder.
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Yeah, that was horrible.
The poor brother.
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Do you have any leads yet?
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Ah, running a few angles.
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Internet vigilantism is one of them.
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Really? As in one of my listeners?
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#Justice4ZoeMarsh had a big
presence at our crime scene.
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Well, word travels fast. People care.
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People who'd be willing to take
matters into their own hands?
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I mean, I have over a million
subscribers. How would I know?
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You got a chat room?
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Anyone use violent language
directed at Nate?
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Some.
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But would any of them
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take their frustration
beyond the keyboard?
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I really couldn't say.
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- You interviewed Nate yesterday.
- He reached out.
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We heard it was the other way around.
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No, he was desperate to clear his name.
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I just gave him the opportunity.
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I'm gonna need a copy of that recording.
262
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Sure.
263
00:12:35,042 --> 00:12:37,187
You know, if Nate's killer is
264
00:12:37,211 --> 00:12:39,481
some sort of internet vigilante,
265
00:12:39,505 --> 00:12:42,467
chances are they listen
to my podcast, right?
266
00:12:43,593 --> 00:12:44,528
So?
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00:12:44,552 --> 00:12:46,345
So you should come on my show
268
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and talk to them direct.
269
00:12:48,572 --> 00:12:50,033
You know, maybe that's not
such a crazy idea...
270
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- That is a crazy idea.
- Oh, go on.
271
00:12:52,351 --> 00:12:54,663
We could go live.
272
00:12:54,687 --> 00:12:57,374
You can engage with
my listeners directly.
273
00:12:57,398 --> 00:12:58,649
And who knows?
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You might even catch a break.
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Thanks for your time.
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- Can I help you?
- Luka Litchfield?
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Yep, that's me.
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Special Agent Jackson, NCIS.
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Constable Evie Cooper, AFP.
We called ahead.
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00:13:32,934 --> 00:13:34,411
Thought you said lunchtime.
281
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We've been to every gun range in Sydney.
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You're lucky last.
283
00:13:37,967 --> 00:13:40,375
Oh, remind me to buy a lottery ticket.
284
00:13:41,484 --> 00:13:43,712
We're gonna need a list
of all your target shooters
285
00:13:43,736 --> 00:13:45,589
and their registered firearms
with your club.
286
00:13:45,613 --> 00:13:47,216
Specifically high-caliber rifles
287
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firing .308 full metal jacket rounds.
288
00:13:51,702 --> 00:13:53,764
Oh, we've got a new fandangled system,
289
00:13:53,788 --> 00:13:54,973
so it'll take me a beat.
290
00:13:54,997 --> 00:13:56,290
Oh, we can wait.
291
00:14:00,336 --> 00:14:01,522
Ooh!
292
00:14:01,546 --> 00:14:03,714
- While we do...
- Really?
293
00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:06,652
You seriously wanna get
shown up, soldier boy?
294
00:14:06,676 --> 00:14:08,070
Hope you brought your textbook,
295
00:14:08,094 --> 00:14:09,488
'cause I'm taking you to school.
296
00:14:09,512 --> 00:14:11,973
Oh.
297
00:14:18,229 --> 00:14:19,498
Whoo-hoo-hoo!
298
00:14:21,107 --> 00:14:23,961
Four center circle, two outside.
299
00:14:23,985 --> 00:14:26,296
Three center circle.
300
00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,632
That one is outside the line, D.
301
00:14:28,656 --> 00:14:29,925
On the line.
302
00:14:29,949 --> 00:14:32,868
NRL rules, baby. On the line is out.
303
00:14:43,129 --> 00:14:45,756
- Three center circle.
- Three outside.
304
00:14:46,674 --> 00:14:48,301
We tied again.
305
00:14:49,218 --> 00:14:51,655
Go again? Next one wins?
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00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:53,490
Oi, you two.
307
00:14:53,514 --> 00:14:55,993
Sorry, I got into the register,
but it's telling me
308
00:14:56,017 --> 00:14:58,495
the printer's not connected
or something.
309
00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:00,122
Oh, yeah, yeah, email's fine.
310
00:15:00,146 --> 00:15:02,916
We're under the gun, so to speak.
311
00:15:08,654 --> 00:15:11,258
I don't know what
the hell happened that day.
312
00:15:11,282 --> 00:15:12,551
You know, I wish I did.
313
00:15:12,575 --> 00:15:14,678
And where were you
at the time of the murders?
314
00:15:14,702 --> 00:15:16,346
Well, party was going well.
315
00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:18,515
You know, we were having a good time.
316
00:15:18,539 --> 00:15:21,184
Um, I went out to get some beer.
317
00:15:21,208 --> 00:15:24,295
When I got back, Zoe...
318
00:15:25,588 --> 00:15:27,089
Her entire family...
319
00:15:29,050 --> 00:15:30,760
There was a lot of blood.
320
00:15:30,997 --> 00:15:32,571
I got it all over me.
321
00:15:32,595 --> 00:15:35,140
You were clocked leaving
the liquor store at 2:25,
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00:15:35,164 --> 00:15:37,334
but you didn't call the police
until 3:30.
323
00:15:37,358 --> 00:15:38,994
- What happened in the interim?
- Yeah.
324
00:15:39,018 --> 00:15:40,478
I got a flat tire on the way home.
325
00:15:41,341 --> 00:15:43,482
I had no jack in the back of my pickup,
326
00:15:43,506 --> 00:15:45,250
so I had to use what I had.
327
00:15:45,274 --> 00:15:46,918
I've been over this.
328
00:15:46,942 --> 00:15:49,546
Seriously? The old flat-tire alibi?
329
00:15:49,570 --> 00:15:51,548
What does he think this is,
Murder, She Wrote?
330
00:15:51,572 --> 00:15:53,417
- Is anyone buying this?
- What, the alibi?
331
00:15:53,441 --> 00:15:55,719
Or the fact that you name-
checked a 40-year-old TV show?
332
00:15:55,743 --> 00:15:57,763
- Come on.
- You're on the news, boss.
333
00:15:57,787 --> 00:15:59,973
Or should I say, you are the news.
334
00:15:59,997 --> 00:16:03,143
In the latest installment of
the Marsh Family Murders,
335
00:16:03,167 --> 00:16:05,145
the net widens as NCIS
336
00:16:05,169 --> 00:16:07,064
investigate Nate Holbrook's murder.
337
00:16:07,088 --> 00:16:08,940
Will they unveil the truth
338
00:16:08,964 --> 00:16:11,342
or will the cover-up continue?
339
00:16:13,844 --> 00:16:16,114
- We should go on her show.
- She's baiting us.
340
00:16:16,138 --> 00:16:18,408
That's been up there,
what, half an hour.
341
00:16:18,432 --> 00:16:20,702
- Have a go at all the likes.
- I'm not doing it.
342
00:16:20,726 --> 00:16:23,914
Come on, she's offering us
a chance to connect directly
343
00:16:23,938 --> 00:16:25,457
with millions of listeners
344
00:16:25,481 --> 00:16:26,917
who might be able to help us
with the case.
345
00:16:26,941 --> 00:16:30,712
It is a podcast, JD,
and we're cops. At least I am.
346
00:16:30,736 --> 00:16:33,340
Chances are Nate's killer's
gonna tune in.
347
00:16:33,364 --> 00:16:36,868
And when they do, I want us to be there.
348
00:16:45,835 --> 00:16:48,397
For the record, this is
one of your stupider ideas.
349
00:16:48,421 --> 00:16:49,856
You really don't like her, do you?
350
00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,066
I have no opinion either way.
351
00:16:51,090 --> 00:16:53,110
Is it 'cause of her success
in solving crime?
352
00:16:53,134 --> 00:16:54,194
Let's be clear.
353
00:16:54,218 --> 00:16:56,988
She sells advertising space,
I solve crime.
354
00:16:58,431 --> 00:17:01,451
Hey, just remember, when you
speak, to modulate your voice.
355
00:17:01,475 --> 00:17:03,245
You don't want the listeners
falling asleep
356
00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:04,663
'cause you're all Monotone Mackey.
357
00:17:04,687 --> 00:17:07,290
Okay, Wolfman Jack,
just worry about yourself.
358
00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:10,502
Today we are lucky enough
359
00:17:10,526 --> 00:17:13,839
to be joined by NCIS
Special Agent Michelle Mackey
360
00:17:13,863 --> 00:17:16,925
and her AFP counterpart,
Sergeant Jim Dempsey.
361
00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:20,178
I am so excited to have you
both on the show.
362
00:17:20,202 --> 00:17:23,014
Our first transcontinental
crime-fighting duo.
363
00:17:23,038 --> 00:17:25,308
- Pleasure to be here.
- Thanks for the invite.
364
00:17:25,332 --> 00:17:26,793
Can I start by asking
365
00:17:26,817 --> 00:17:29,444
why you both came on the show
in the first place?
366
00:17:30,963 --> 00:17:32,715
Hi there, folks.
367
00:17:35,092 --> 00:17:37,028
It's simple, really.
368
00:17:37,052 --> 00:17:39,156
We're investigating
Nate Holbrook's murder
369
00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:41,658
and wondering if anyone
has seen anything,
370
00:17:41,682 --> 00:17:44,870
heard anything, that might
relate to what happened.
371
00:17:44,894 --> 00:17:46,663
Right on, Macka.
372
00:17:46,687 --> 00:17:50,475
So, over to you good people at home.
373
00:17:50,499 --> 00:17:51,835
If you have any information
374
00:17:51,859 --> 00:17:54,463
that could point us in
the direction of Nate's shooter,
375
00:17:54,487 --> 00:17:57,758
be sure to call or text
the number on the screen.
376
00:17:57,782 --> 00:17:59,634
You heard Sergeant Dempsey.
377
00:17:59,658 --> 00:18:01,136
We are now open for questions.
378
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,097
#MarshFamilyMurders.
379
00:18:04,121 --> 00:18:05,307
Next one.
380
00:18:05,331 --> 00:18:06,641
Stirling Merrifield.
381
00:18:08,083 --> 00:18:11,670
- Evie. Stirling Merrifield.
- Shh!
382
00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:15,275
While we wait for
the calls to come through,
383
00:18:15,299 --> 00:18:16,526
perhaps you can tell us about
384
00:18:16,550 --> 00:18:19,321
the US-Australian
Law Enforcement Partnership.
385
00:18:19,345 --> 00:18:21,948
How's that going for you, Agent Mackey?
386
00:18:21,972 --> 00:18:23,216
It's terrific.
387
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,701
Believe it or not, we're a great
388
00:18:24,725 --> 00:18:25,994
cultural fit.
389
00:18:26,018 --> 00:18:27,329
There...
390
00:18:33,192 --> 00:18:34,586
There were some...
391
00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:38,006
There were
some natural teething issues at first.
392
00:18:38,030 --> 00:18:40,550
Uh, I think they thought we'd last,
393
00:18:40,574 --> 00:18:42,177
you know, like, two weeks.
394
00:18:42,201 --> 00:18:44,763
But here we are, still doing our thing.
395
00:18:44,787 --> 00:18:47,165
- Yeah.
- Uh...
396
00:18:47,189 --> 00:18:48,648
Doing our thang.
397
00:18:51,102 --> 00:18:54,189
Did I say what a tremendous opportunity
398
00:18:54,213 --> 00:18:55,440
it is to be on the show?
399
00:18:55,464 --> 00:18:58,944
Mm, I think what Agent Mackey
is trying to say is
400
00:18:58,968 --> 00:19:01,538
how much she enjoys working with
the Australian law enforcement.
401
00:19:01,562 --> 00:19:03,514
I'm so glad to hear that.
402
00:19:03,538 --> 00:19:06,117
Can I start with a question
for you, Agent Mackey?
403
00:19:06,141 --> 00:19:07,160
Shoot.
404
00:19:07,184 --> 00:19:08,495
Let's talk about Nate Holbrook
405
00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:10,539
and the multiple homicide charges
406
00:19:10,563 --> 00:19:11,873
that have been leveled against him.
407
00:19:11,897 --> 00:19:13,542
As you know, Lucinda,
408
00:19:13,566 --> 00:19:16,127
the public prosecutor
declined to take the case
409
00:19:16,151 --> 00:19:17,921
and dropped all charges.
410
00:19:17,945 --> 00:19:20,382
That's technically true, but they had to
411
00:19:20,406 --> 00:19:22,217
because Nate skipped the country.
412
00:19:22,241 --> 00:19:25,178
According to the affidavit,
he had a health emergency.
413
00:19:25,202 --> 00:19:27,514
Nate needed treatment
back in the States.
414
00:19:27,538 --> 00:19:29,558
A health emergency
that kicked in a day before
415
00:19:29,582 --> 00:19:31,917
the case was supposed to go
to a committal hearing?
416
00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:36,273
Uh, bad timing, for sure.
417
00:19:36,297 --> 00:19:37,858
Police files and evidence boxes
418
00:19:37,882 --> 00:19:41,051
from the original case that
JD requested, with more to come.
419
00:19:41,455 --> 00:19:42,988
Is there anything from your listeners?
420
00:19:43,012 --> 00:19:44,656
Nothing yet, but that happens.
421
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:45,907
No one wants to go first.
422
00:19:45,931 --> 00:19:48,159
Just takes one person
to get the ball rolling.
423
00:19:48,183 --> 00:19:51,580
All right, come on, folks.
We need your help.
424
00:19:51,604 --> 00:19:53,636
Doesn't matter how irrelevant
you think it might be.
425
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:55,000
Any piece of information
426
00:19:55,024 --> 00:19:57,335
could be the lead that
helps break our case.
427
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,753
Wow.
428
00:19:58,777 --> 00:20:00,922
They are dying out there.
429
00:20:00,946 --> 00:20:04,009
You should help them
out. Throw 'em a bone.
430
00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:06,303
God, no. This is amazing.
431
00:20:06,327 --> 00:20:08,329
Shove over.
432
00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:14,126
Really? That's your bone?
433
00:20:15,127 --> 00:20:18,440
Okay, we do have one question
from Nicky Rimz.
434
00:20:18,464 --> 00:20:20,275
Have you ever used your handcuffs
435
00:20:20,299 --> 00:20:23,218
or any other form of restraints
on each other?
436
00:20:26,698 --> 00:20:29,618
Oh, man, damn! Is that the best you got?
437
00:20:29,642 --> 00:20:32,203
I'm just trying to get
the conversation started.
438
00:20:32,227 --> 00:20:35,290
That is a negative, Nicky.
439
00:20:35,314 --> 00:20:39,210
Okay. Uh, and another one
from Hugh Jarse.
440
00:20:41,403 --> 00:20:42,964
Do you practice patting each other down?
441
00:20:42,988 --> 00:20:45,550
All right, okay, folks.
Let's stay on track.
442
00:20:45,574 --> 00:20:47,677
We need your help to catch a killer.
443
00:20:47,701 --> 00:20:49,804
Out of all the people
you've traded words with
444
00:20:49,828 --> 00:20:51,139
in the podcast chat room,
445
00:20:51,163 --> 00:20:54,541
who would be your go-to person
of interest you'd want to speak to?
446
00:20:54,945 --> 00:20:57,270
We do have one name being offered up
447
00:20:57,294 --> 00:20:58,949
by some of the listeners.
448
00:20:59,546 --> 00:21:02,216
Freddy Rasmussen.
Does that mean anything to you?
449
00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:04,152
Not yet.
450
00:21:04,176 --> 00:21:05,928
Pulling up his chat log now.
451
00:21:07,304 --> 00:21:08,448
Whoa.
452
00:21:08,472 --> 00:21:09,783
"Only justice for Zoe
453
00:21:09,807 --> 00:21:13,594
"comes in the form of 180-grain
full metal jacket."
454
00:21:13,618 --> 00:21:14,746
Gun club records show
455
00:21:14,770 --> 00:21:17,356
that Rasmussen owns a Winchester .308.
456
00:21:28,909 --> 00:21:30,495
Freddy Rasmussen.
457
00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:31,846
Sergeant Dempsey, AFP.
458
00:21:31,870 --> 00:21:33,956
I'd like to ask you a few questions.
459
00:21:34,235 --> 00:21:36,834
Special Agent Mackey, NCIS.
460
00:21:37,071 --> 00:21:39,771
We've already met, haven't we, Freddy?
461
00:21:39,795 --> 00:21:41,189
In Chinatown.
462
00:21:41,213 --> 00:21:42,549
You got a warrant?
463
00:21:42,573 --> 00:21:44,161
Are we gonna need one?
464
00:21:48,345 --> 00:21:49,739
Where were you yesterday
465
00:21:49,763 --> 00:21:50,974
between 8:00 and 10:00pm?
466
00:21:50,998 --> 00:21:52,017
I was out.
467
00:21:52,041 --> 00:21:54,251
Out where? Doing what?
468
00:21:54,588 --> 00:21:56,311
Keeping vigil for Zoe.
469
00:21:57,007 --> 00:21:59,849
"Keeping vigil"? What does that mean?
470
00:21:59,873 --> 00:22:01,459
I stood outside a hotel
471
00:22:01,483 --> 00:22:03,712
waiting for that coward
Nate Holbrook to show.
472
00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:05,863
I wanted to give him a piece of my mind.
473
00:22:06,478 --> 00:22:08,036
And did you?
474
00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:10,301
Holbrook saw me, ran out the back way.
475
00:22:10,325 --> 00:22:12,220
Old habits die hard.
476
00:22:12,244 --> 00:22:13,888
You own a Winchester .308?
477
00:22:13,912 --> 00:22:15,515
You know I do. It's why you're here.
478
00:22:15,539 --> 00:22:18,018
- Where do you keep it?
- The gun club, usually.
479
00:22:18,042 --> 00:22:19,155
Usually?
480
00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:20,979
It's in my car.
481
00:22:21,003 --> 00:22:22,533
Going away for the weekend.
482
00:22:45,388 --> 00:22:47,140
Fired it recently?
483
00:22:47,905 --> 00:22:49,740
Not that I can recall.
484
00:22:54,536 --> 00:22:57,599
Rasmussen's wife, Helen,
was murdered three years ago.
485
00:22:57,623 --> 00:22:59,684
That's what the shrine
in his house was about.
486
00:22:59,708 --> 00:23:02,896
Killer took his own life before
the case could go to trial.
487
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,339
So he never got justice
for his wife's murder?
488
00:23:06,215 --> 00:23:07,758
Maybe he can for Zoe?
489
00:23:11,095 --> 00:23:12,971
Sorry about your wife, mate.
490
00:23:14,014 --> 00:23:15,432
Helen, isn't it?
491
00:23:17,536 --> 00:23:19,162
You got people around you?
492
00:23:20,896 --> 00:23:23,124
I joined the Victims of Crime
support group.
493
00:23:23,148 --> 00:23:24,733
They have regular meet-ups.
494
00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:26,795
Does it help?
495
00:23:30,405 --> 00:23:32,425
A guy there suggested I find a hobby.
496
00:23:32,449 --> 00:23:34,409
It's how I came to target shooting.
497
00:23:35,410 --> 00:23:37,121
Helped fill the days.
498
00:23:37,913 --> 00:23:42,000
It's the nights that are, uh,
the hardest, though, right?
499
00:23:42,935 --> 00:23:44,395
The midnight to dawn.
500
00:23:44,419 --> 00:23:47,214
Everyone wants you to leave
the past in the past.
501
00:23:48,356 --> 00:23:49,734
How are you supposed to do that
502
00:23:49,758 --> 00:23:51,653
when you lose the reason
you have for living?
503
00:23:51,677 --> 00:23:54,114
Did you kill Nate Holbrook?
504
00:23:54,138 --> 00:23:55,264
Yep.
505
00:23:58,976 --> 00:24:00,435
Every night in my head.
506
00:24:01,131 --> 00:24:02,772
How about last night in Chinatown?
507
00:24:07,401 --> 00:24:10,445
I haven't got it in me
to take someone's life.
508
00:24:12,364 --> 00:24:13,782
Really?
509
00:24:15,813 --> 00:24:17,512
"Only justice for Zoe
510
00:24:17,536 --> 00:24:21,057
"comes in the form of
a 180-grain full metal jacket."
511
00:24:21,081 --> 00:24:22,433
Meant to mean something?
512
00:24:22,457 --> 00:24:25,794
Well, you tell me. I'm quoting you.
513
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:33,678
Yeah, sometimes I... I lose
myself in those chat rooms.
514
00:24:33,702 --> 00:24:36,914
Stuff comes bubbling up.
I didn't mean anything by it.
515
00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:42,745
"You know it's gonna make it
that much better
516
00:24:42,769 --> 00:24:46,124
"when we can say goodnight
and stay together."
517
00:24:46,148 --> 00:24:48,710
Seriously? I mean,
who writes this stuff?
518
00:24:48,734 --> 00:24:51,029
- It's poetry. It's beautiful.
- It's Beach Boys.
519
00:24:51,053 --> 00:24:53,430
Yeah, I guess Zoe loved the classics.
520
00:24:55,908 --> 00:24:57,242
Wait.
521
00:24:59,620 --> 00:25:01,890
I thought you said black opal is rare.
522
00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:03,224
It is.
523
00:25:03,248 --> 00:25:04,475
What do you got, D?
524
00:25:04,499 --> 00:25:06,352
It looks like
the same type of black opal
525
00:25:06,376 --> 00:25:08,104
links both crime scenes, boss.
526
00:25:08,128 --> 00:25:10,106
So is there a chance
that whoever killed Nate
527
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:11,465
was there the day Zoe died?
528
00:25:11,827 --> 00:25:14,676
If so, Nate's not the murderer.
529
00:25:15,414 --> 00:25:17,512
He's just another innocent victim.
530
00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:20,932
It all goes back
to the Thanksgiving lunch.
531
00:25:44,873 --> 00:25:47,018
I want everything as it was
back in the day.
532
00:25:47,042 --> 00:25:49,020
Use your crime scene photos
as your guide.
533
00:25:49,044 --> 00:25:50,980
You seriously think
here's where we get answers?
534
00:25:51,004 --> 00:25:53,274
That, or dysentery.
535
00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:17,215
All right now, big one. Big smiles.
536
00:26:17,239 --> 00:26:19,300
- Happy Thanksgiving.
- Happy Thanksgiving!
537
00:26:42,681 --> 00:26:45,451
That's great, yeah!
538
00:26:45,475 --> 00:26:47,829
Oh, sweet!
539
00:27:47,412 --> 00:27:50,795
Wow. Who needs roadside service, eh?
540
00:27:50,819 --> 00:27:52,602
Just testing out Nate's alibi.
541
00:27:52,626 --> 00:27:55,605
Turns out it is possible to
change a tire without a jack
542
00:27:55,629 --> 00:27:58,524
and only a tire iron
and chainsaw for company.
543
00:27:58,548 --> 00:28:00,234
Huh.
544
00:28:00,258 --> 00:28:01,486
So what's the beer for, then?
545
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:02,862
Well, Nate was off buying beers,
546
00:28:02,886 --> 00:28:04,655
so I'm just trying to keep it real.
547
00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:05,680
Oh.
548
00:28:06,416 --> 00:28:07,920
And for knockoff.
549
00:28:09,476 --> 00:28:11,412
Yikes! Your hands.
550
00:28:11,436 --> 00:28:13,855
Ah, it's just brake pad dust
from the wheels.
551
00:28:14,259 --> 00:28:16,834
Don't worry, Mum. I'm going to
wash my hands...
552
00:28:16,858 --> 00:28:19,629
No, no, no, no. Don't do that.
Don't do that, whatever you do.
553
00:28:19,653 --> 00:28:21,530
Not until I am done with you.
554
00:28:26,324 --> 00:28:28,327
So the father was shot here, right?
555
00:28:28,351 --> 00:28:29,518
Mm-hm.
556
00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:31,182
Where does that put the shooter?
557
00:28:31,206 --> 00:28:33,226
Well, here, I guess.
558
00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:36,562
Oh, well, that's what
the police report suggests.
559
00:28:36,586 --> 00:28:38,773
But as per the coroner's report,
560
00:28:38,797 --> 00:28:40,483
which came out afterwards,
561
00:28:40,507 --> 00:28:42,860
the blast struck Brandon's
carotid artery,
562
00:28:42,884 --> 00:28:45,863
meaning a lot of blood
would have sprayed forward.
563
00:28:45,887 --> 00:28:49,700
So if Nate was the shooter,
blood would have sprayed on him.
564
00:28:49,724 --> 00:28:51,285
Leaving a blood silhouette behind him.
565
00:28:51,309 --> 00:28:52,995
But there isn't one on that photo
566
00:28:53,019 --> 00:28:55,897
because Nate didn't kill Brandon.
567
00:28:58,942 --> 00:29:00,172
Okay, so who did?
568
00:29:00,196 --> 00:29:01,904
Well, based on what we're seeing here,
569
00:29:01,928 --> 00:29:03,589
I'd say
570
00:29:03,613 --> 00:29:05,532
Brandon killed Brandon.
571
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:08,261
- What, murder-suicide? Why?
- Hm.
572
00:29:08,285 --> 00:29:10,320
'Cause Zoe wasn't
the one having the affair.
573
00:29:10,344 --> 00:29:12,598
I went back and managed to
access her public playlist.
574
00:29:12,622 --> 00:29:15,143
Travis Scott, Nicki Minaj, J. Cole.
575
00:29:15,167 --> 00:29:16,894
She had a poster
of Hilltop Hoods on her wall.
576
00:29:16,918 --> 00:29:19,814
But the love letters are full of
Beach Boys lyrics. Old school.
577
00:29:19,838 --> 00:29:22,191
See, that ain't the way
to a hip-hop girl's heart.
578
00:29:22,215 --> 00:29:23,860
Hm. These weren't Zoe's.
579
00:29:23,884 --> 00:29:25,194
We think they were her mum's.
580
00:29:25,218 --> 00:29:27,888
You're telling me Jacquie
was having the affair?
581
00:29:29,848 --> 00:29:31,242
How did the cops miss this?
582
00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:32,743
Well, you think about it.
583
00:29:32,767 --> 00:29:34,672
You come through the door, you find Nate
584
00:29:34,696 --> 00:29:37,264
holding the murder weapon
covered in the victim's blood,
585
00:29:37,288 --> 00:29:39,041
gunpowder residue all over him.
586
00:29:39,065 --> 00:29:40,585
With a "cat ate my homework" alibi.
587
00:29:40,609 --> 00:29:43,212
Someone didn't do the work.
Went for the low-hanging fruit.
588
00:29:43,236 --> 00:29:44,714
Jumped to the conclusion
that if it flaps
589
00:29:44,738 --> 00:29:46,048
like a duck and quacks like a duck...
590
00:29:46,072 --> 00:29:47,216
The wrong person goes to prison.
591
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,594
And years later,
has podcasts made about them.
592
00:29:49,618 --> 00:29:51,179
Pff!
593
00:29:51,203 --> 00:29:53,181
Okay, great job, team.
594
00:29:53,205 --> 00:29:55,308
Let's not slap ourselves
on the back too hard yet.
595
00:29:55,332 --> 00:29:57,290
We may have solved the cold case,
596
00:29:57,314 --> 00:30:00,115
but we aren't any closer
to working out who killed Nate.
597
00:30:06,092 --> 00:30:07,737
Come on, kiddo, don't do this.
598
00:30:07,761 --> 00:30:09,030
We just solved the cold case.
599
00:30:09,054 --> 00:30:10,865
- DNA doesn't lie.
- Exactly.
600
00:30:10,889 --> 00:30:12,200
So Dad killed his wife and daughter
601
00:30:12,224 --> 00:30:13,925
and then turned the gun on himself.
602
00:30:13,949 --> 00:30:15,092
I mean, it totally tracks.
603
00:30:15,116 --> 00:30:16,787
Except in this case, he couldn't have.
604
00:30:16,811 --> 00:30:17,872
Why not, exactly?
605
00:30:17,896 --> 00:30:20,249
Because I ran DNA analysis
on the historic victims
606
00:30:20,273 --> 00:30:23,652
and it turns out that Brandon
and Zoe's DNA don't match.
607
00:30:25,443 --> 00:30:26,485
What...
608
00:30:26,509 --> 00:30:27,798
Call me old-fashioned,
609
00:30:27,822 --> 00:30:29,425
but shouldn't a father
and daughter's DNA match
610
00:30:29,449 --> 00:30:30,718
on some level?
611
00:30:30,742 --> 00:30:33,846
Yes, absolutely, if they are
in fact father and daughter.
612
00:30:33,870 --> 00:30:37,308
Wait, Brandon wasn't Zoe's
biological dad?
613
00:30:37,332 --> 00:30:39,519
Nope, not according to
the laws of science.
614
00:30:39,543 --> 00:30:41,521
So who is Zoe's biological father?
615
00:30:41,545 --> 00:30:43,314
That is what I've been trying
to tell you.
616
00:30:43,338 --> 00:30:47,193
So Zoe's DNA is a match
for the DNA on the coffee cup
617
00:30:47,217 --> 00:30:49,946
and the cigarette butts found at
the scene of Nate's shooting.
618
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:51,799
- Where we found the opal?
- Yes.
619
00:30:51,823 --> 00:30:55,076
- So whoever shot Nate...
- is Zoe's biological father.
620
00:30:58,687 --> 00:31:00,300
What are we missing?
621
00:31:00,971 --> 00:31:03,709
Thanksgiving dinner.
Everyone's a few drinks in.
622
00:31:03,733 --> 00:31:07,088
Brandon somehow stumbles onto
Jacquie's love letters...
623
00:31:07,112 --> 00:31:09,034
Proving his wife had had an affair.
624
00:31:09,058 --> 00:31:10,508
Confirming his suspicions
625
00:31:10,532 --> 00:31:13,494
that the daughter he'd raised
as his own wasn't actually his.
626
00:31:13,518 --> 00:31:15,335
So he snaps hard.
627
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:16,889
He shoots Zoe in front of Mum,
628
00:31:16,913 --> 00:31:20,935
placing the love letters over
Zoe's body to humiliate Jacquie,
629
00:31:20,959 --> 00:31:22,744
just like she humiliated him.
630
00:31:22,768 --> 00:31:24,230
The love letters I get,
631
00:31:24,254 --> 00:31:26,716
but why place Mom's
opal necklace over Zoe?
632
00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:29,151
And why are there black opals
at both of the crime scenes?
633
00:31:29,175 --> 00:31:32,280
Yo, got confirmation from
Customs and Immigration
634
00:31:32,304 --> 00:31:34,448
regarding Nate's exit from
the country after the murders.
635
00:31:34,472 --> 00:31:35,616
- And?
- And he didn't hop
636
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,243
a commercial flight back to L.A.
637
00:31:37,267 --> 00:31:38,578
How'd he get back, then?
638
00:31:38,602 --> 00:31:41,439
Turns out his brother, Tyler,
was in the Navy back in the day too.
639
00:31:41,463 --> 00:31:42,790
And that's important because...
640
00:31:42,814 --> 00:31:45,692
Because his brother
was in Navy transport logistics.
641
00:31:48,486 --> 00:31:51,048
Yeah, I admit it.
I called in some favors.
642
00:31:51,072 --> 00:31:52,925
So your brother wouldn't face charges?
643
00:31:52,949 --> 00:31:54,260
Charges he was innocent of.
644
00:31:54,284 --> 00:31:57,370
- And you knew that how?
- Because he's my little brother.
645
00:31:57,816 --> 00:31:59,081
And I asked him straight up,
646
00:31:59,105 --> 00:32:00,891
I told him I'd stand by him either way,
647
00:32:00,915 --> 00:32:02,418
but if I found out down the track
648
00:32:02,442 --> 00:32:04,444
he was lying to me,
then I'd kick his ass.
649
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:11,694
I've been looking after Nate
since he was in diapers, right?
650
00:32:11,718 --> 00:32:14,387
You think I don't know when
my baby brother's lying to me?
651
00:32:16,431 --> 00:32:18,576
I made a promise to my dad
on his deathbed
652
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,369
I would look after Nate, all right?
653
00:32:20,393 --> 00:32:21,631
So that's what I did.
654
00:32:22,312 --> 00:32:24,874
And you figured that meant
getting him out of Australia
655
00:32:24,898 --> 00:32:26,566
to avoid police charges?
656
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,571
Okay, if I could have
my time over, I... I...
657
00:32:31,892 --> 00:32:33,698
..I would let it go to trial,
658
00:32:33,977 --> 00:32:35,950
and his alibi would have come to light,
659
00:32:36,271 --> 00:32:38,137
there would have been no podcast,
660
00:32:38,161 --> 00:32:42,582
and Nate might still be alive.
661
00:32:44,668 --> 00:32:46,145
But...
662
00:32:52,092 --> 00:32:53,986
So looking into
Zoe's biological dad means
663
00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:55,780
I gotta go back 26 years,
664
00:32:55,804 --> 00:32:58,098
figure out what Mum was doing
way back when.
665
00:32:58,418 --> 00:33:01,351
Turns out she was
a regional flight attendant.
666
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,998
And one of her regular routes
was to Lightning Ridge,
667
00:33:06,022 --> 00:33:08,542
which happens to be
Australia's opal capital,
668
00:33:08,566 --> 00:33:10,211
famous for black opal.
669
00:33:10,235 --> 00:33:12,213
And who said you don't
do the daily groundwork?
670
00:33:12,237 --> 00:33:15,907
You, mostly, while I'm
making you look good.
671
00:33:16,741 --> 00:33:18,302
What have you got?
672
00:33:18,326 --> 00:33:19,970
Passenger manifests from every one
673
00:33:19,994 --> 00:33:21,722
of Jacquie's flights back in the day.
674
00:33:21,746 --> 00:33:23,516
I'm trying to work out
which were opal miners
675
00:33:23,540 --> 00:33:27,085
and linking them
to any big finds of black opal.
676
00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:29,271
If Jacquie had an affair,
677
00:33:29,295 --> 00:33:31,607
it was likely with one of those miners.
678
00:33:31,631 --> 00:33:34,042
Sure. Or...
679
00:33:35,286 --> 00:33:37,512
..we could just ask
the jeweler who set both opals.
680
00:33:40,849 --> 00:33:44,031
I remember this stone.
One of two for the same client.
681
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:45,287
Two stones?
682
00:33:45,311 --> 00:33:47,623
The first one, 20-some years ago,
683
00:33:47,647 --> 00:33:49,500
the second one, maybe five years back.
684
00:33:49,524 --> 00:33:51,877
Mm. You still got the client's details?
685
00:33:51,901 --> 00:33:53,445
Oh, I should do.
686
00:33:54,738 --> 00:33:57,591
So let's assume the first opal
is a gift for Jacquie.
687
00:33:57,615 --> 00:33:59,301
And the second one's for Zoe.
688
00:33:59,325 --> 00:34:01,804
Maybe. But why the delay?
689
00:34:01,828 --> 00:34:02,972
Dunno.
690
00:34:02,996 --> 00:34:04,849
Maybe he just found out he was a dad.
691
00:34:04,873 --> 00:34:07,500
Got the second opal set for the
daughter he didn't know he had.
692
00:34:08,458 --> 00:34:10,322
I found the original invoices.
693
00:34:17,635 --> 00:34:21,431
Damn. Didn't see that coming.
694
00:34:23,808 --> 00:34:24,952
What have you got, Blue?
695
00:34:24,976 --> 00:34:28,038
- Worms?
- Nope, better. Excitement.
696
00:34:28,062 --> 00:34:30,124
Ballistics came through the lab
on Rasmussen's rifle
697
00:34:30,148 --> 00:34:31,208
with a positive match.
698
00:34:31,232 --> 00:34:32,418
We certain about that?
699
00:34:32,442 --> 00:34:33,627
According to Team Bang-Bang,
700
00:34:33,651 --> 00:34:35,863
the firing pin indent
and extractor claw marks
701
00:34:35,887 --> 00:34:37,131
match his rifle.
702
00:34:42,786 --> 00:34:44,537
People come up to me all the time.
703
00:34:45,192 --> 00:34:48,708
They talk to me about needing
to move on after Helen.
704
00:34:50,168 --> 00:34:51,781
"It's been years, mate," they say.
705
00:34:52,737 --> 00:34:54,451
"Time to let her go."
706
00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:57,735
Bit rich if you've never been there.
707
00:34:57,759 --> 00:34:59,539
Hear, hear.
708
00:35:01,066 --> 00:35:02,609
Uh, let's take a five-minute break.
709
00:35:06,017 --> 00:35:07,442
What are you doing here?
710
00:35:07,466 --> 00:35:09,622
We ran a ballistics check on your gun.
711
00:35:09,646 --> 00:35:11,398
Came back positive for the weapon used
712
00:35:11,422 --> 00:35:13,042
to kill Nate Holbrook.
713
00:35:13,066 --> 00:35:14,919
I don't understand.
714
00:35:14,943 --> 00:35:16,170
Yeah, we know.
715
00:35:16,194 --> 00:35:19,423
Hey, mate. White with two,
just how you like it.
716
00:35:19,447 --> 00:35:22,218
Hi. I'm Luka. Welcome to the group.
717
00:35:22,242 --> 00:35:23,636
Jim Dempsey, AFP.
718
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,864
Special Agent Michelle Mackey, NCIS.
719
00:35:25,888 --> 00:35:27,473
We were just talking
to your friend Freddy
720
00:35:27,497 --> 00:35:28,641
about the murder of Nate Holbrook.
721
00:35:28,665 --> 00:35:31,560
Yeah, his rifle's a ballistics
match to the gun the killer used.
722
00:35:31,584 --> 00:35:33,878
We're gonna need to take Freddy
down to the station with us.
723
00:35:35,898 --> 00:35:39,384
Unless, of course, there's something
else you want to tell us, Luka.
724
00:35:42,387 --> 00:35:45,199
Sorry, Freddy, this wasn't
supposed to come back to you.
725
00:35:47,392 --> 00:35:48,828
I don't understand.
726
00:35:48,852 --> 00:35:51,480
I used my master key
to access your rifle
727
00:35:51,504 --> 00:35:52,922
in the lock-up at the club.
728
00:35:55,859 --> 00:35:57,235
Wait.
729
00:35:58,444 --> 00:36:00,047
You shot Nate Holbrook?
730
00:36:00,071 --> 00:36:01,573
He killed my kid.
731
00:36:02,625 --> 00:36:04,251
What was I gonna do?
732
00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:13,543
Freddy!
733
00:36:18,756 --> 00:36:20,985
Talk to me about the opal necklace.
734
00:36:21,009 --> 00:36:23,279
It was from the same seam of black opal
735
00:36:23,303 --> 00:36:26,807
that I discovered
on the day I met Jacquie.
736
00:36:26,831 --> 00:36:28,576
Why leave it at the crime scene?
737
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,244
What's the significance for Zoe?
738
00:36:30,268 --> 00:36:32,855
I couldn't have a relationship
with her mum,
739
00:36:32,879 --> 00:36:34,256
so I thought...
740
00:36:35,899 --> 00:36:38,151
..maybe I could connect with her.
741
00:36:40,436 --> 00:36:43,602
We arranged to meet face-to-face
at the botanic gardens.
742
00:36:46,192 --> 00:36:48,027
She never showed.
743
00:36:49,996 --> 00:36:52,474
Her Navy boyfriend made sure of that.
744
00:36:52,498 --> 00:36:54,500
Nate didn't kill Zoe.
745
00:36:57,295 --> 00:36:59,714
What are you...
What are you talking about?
746
00:37:02,342 --> 00:37:03,611
Course he did.
747
00:37:03,635 --> 00:37:04,987
There was...
748
00:37:05,011 --> 00:37:06,071
..evidence.
749
00:37:06,095 --> 00:37:08,348
It was an open-and-shut case. It...
750
00:37:09,724 --> 00:37:12,536
There was no one else
in the house that day.
751
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,996
The cops were all over it.
752
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:17,833
The police made some critical
errors in their investigation.
753
00:37:17,857 --> 00:37:19,627
It was a murder-suicide.
754
00:37:19,651 --> 00:37:21,378
Brandon killed Zoe.
755
00:37:21,402 --> 00:37:23,321
Then he killed Jacquie, and then...
756
00:37:24,656 --> 00:37:26,032
..himself.
757
00:37:27,367 --> 00:37:28,701
Over these.
758
00:37:33,498 --> 00:37:35,236
Your love letters to Jacquie.
759
00:37:36,042 --> 00:37:37,770
You quote the Beach Boys.
760
00:37:37,794 --> 00:37:39,855
That's how we knew they weren't for Zoe.
761
00:37:39,879 --> 00:37:41,547
The Beach Boys.
762
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:47,821
That's what was playing
on the night we first met.
763
00:37:51,191 --> 00:37:55,654
She was standing there in her
hostess uniform, by the jukebox.
764
00:37:58,022 --> 00:37:59,732
I asked her to dance.
765
00:38:00,566 --> 00:38:04,654
I'd just discovered
the mother lode of black opal.
766
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,408
A seam as long as my arm.
767
00:38:11,494 --> 00:38:14,539
I was 24 and rich
beyond my wildest dreams.
768
00:38:16,666 --> 00:38:18,543
Suddenly, I couldn't care less.
769
00:38:20,878 --> 00:38:22,131
I didn't know it at the time,
770
00:38:22,155 --> 00:38:25,200
but that was the night we made Zoe.
771
00:38:36,894 --> 00:38:38,341
What have I done?
772
00:38:44,068 --> 00:38:46,946
We've actually decided
to get him cremated here.
773
00:38:47,235 --> 00:38:50,071
Nate always loved the Australian bush.
774
00:38:50,908 --> 00:38:53,828
Well, there's no shortage of
that around here. I mean...
775
00:38:54,149 --> 00:38:56,306
Blue Mountains would be my pick.
776
00:38:56,330 --> 00:38:58,434
Megalong Valley, something like that.
777
00:38:58,458 --> 00:39:00,394
- Mega-long?
- Ha.
778
00:39:00,418 --> 00:39:02,062
Okay, I'll bear that in mind.
779
00:39:02,086 --> 00:39:04,815
There's a lookout where
you get to watch the sun go down
780
00:39:04,839 --> 00:39:06,108
over two valleys.
781
00:39:07,175 --> 00:39:09,761
It makes you feel small,
but in a good way.
782
00:39:12,638 --> 00:39:16,642
Don't suppose you'd...
want to come along?
783
00:39:18,311 --> 00:39:21,833
Well, the place I'm talking about
784
00:39:21,857 --> 00:39:23,192
can be tricky to find,
785
00:39:23,216 --> 00:39:25,343
and I wouldn't want you
getting lost out there.
786
00:39:31,866 --> 00:39:33,034
Tire iron.
787
00:39:33,868 --> 00:39:36,513
Similar to the one Nate used
to change a flat tire.
788
00:39:36,537 --> 00:39:39,324
You're not still going on
about the missing jack, are you?
789
00:39:39,348 --> 00:39:40,934
There was no one there
to corroborate it.
790
00:39:40,958 --> 00:39:43,103
I deal in facts, Agent Mackey.
791
00:39:43,127 --> 00:39:45,689
Fact, he had the victim's
blood on his clothes.
792
00:39:45,713 --> 00:39:47,399
Fact, fingerprints on the murder weapon.
793
00:39:47,423 --> 00:39:50,069
Fact, gunshot residue
all over his hands.
794
00:39:50,093 --> 00:39:53,638
And all over yours right now.
795
00:39:54,972 --> 00:39:57,451
All that black powder on the tire rim,
796
00:39:57,475 --> 00:39:58,952
that's brake pad dust.
797
00:39:58,976 --> 00:40:01,955
When Nate changed the tire,
he got it all over him.
798
00:40:01,979 --> 00:40:03,791
No, the police analyzed it. It was...
799
00:40:03,815 --> 00:40:09,153
Barium, the main ingredient
in gunpowder and brake pad dust.
800
00:40:10,004 --> 00:40:11,590
Well, the police
should have picked that up.
801
00:40:11,614 --> 00:40:13,242
Maybe you should have too.
802
00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:14,643
Might be an episode in that.
803
00:40:14,667 --> 00:40:16,064
Yeah.
804
00:40:23,668 --> 00:40:25,145
Hoo-hoo-hoo!
805
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,609
Bull's-eye!
806
00:40:30,633 --> 00:40:33,553
Oh, bull's-eye, my arse!
807
00:40:34,285 --> 00:40:36,323
Off like old salami, mate.
808
00:40:36,347 --> 00:40:38,892
Fine. Show me what you got, girl.
809
00:40:38,916 --> 00:40:41,335
Oh, okay.
810
00:40:46,357 --> 00:40:49,278
Is there a cross-draft in here?
You feel that?
811
00:40:49,302 --> 00:40:50,921
Uh-huh.
812
00:40:50,945 --> 00:40:53,257
Come on, guys, wrap it up. We're closed.
813
00:40:53,281 --> 00:40:55,717
We just need a couple more
minutes to finish this off.
814
00:40:55,741 --> 00:40:56,760
Thank you.
815
00:40:58,536 --> 00:41:03,082
Next closest to the center
is the champion of the world.
816
00:41:03,579 --> 00:41:05,080
You're on.
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