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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,680 Nate! Finally. 2 00:00:08,681 --> 00:00:10,648 Buddy, I can't believe you're missing this, dude. 3 00:00:10,649 --> 00:00:11,816 The view up here is insane. 4 00:00:11,817 --> 00:00:14,819 The sunset on top of the bridge is mind-blowing. 5 00:00:14,820 --> 00:00:16,688 They weren't joking when they said... 6 00:00:16,689 --> 00:00:18,256 What'd you say? 7 00:00:18,257 --> 00:00:21,326 I'm in Chinatown. There's... there's some festival going on. 8 00:00:21,327 --> 00:00:22,460 Huh? What? 9 00:00:22,461 --> 00:00:23,595 I can barely hear you. 10 00:00:23,596 --> 00:00:25,430 Sorry, Tyler, there's people everywhere. 11 00:00:25,431 --> 00:00:26,698 Where are you? 12 00:00:26,699 --> 00:00:28,266 Yeah, I can't hear you. Say that again. 13 00:00:28,267 --> 00:00:30,602 Hang on a minute. I'm gonna move away from the crowd. 14 00:00:30,603 --> 00:00:32,870 Huh? Can you say that again, man? Where are you? 15 00:00:32,871 --> 00:00:35,507 Oh, it is chaos down here. 16 00:00:35,508 --> 00:00:37,342 You didn't show, so I tried calling you. 17 00:00:37,343 --> 00:00:38,476 Yeah, sorry. 18 00:00:38,477 --> 00:00:39,844 It's all good, I mean... 19 00:00:39,845 --> 00:00:42,514 I mean, the tour was at 8:00, but where you been? 20 00:00:42,515 --> 00:00:45,450 The trolls were waiting for me in the hotel lobby. 21 00:00:45,451 --> 00:00:47,485 Trolls? You lose 'em? 22 00:00:47,486 --> 00:00:49,521 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. - Okay, good. 23 00:00:49,522 --> 00:00:51,689 Come to me. Jump in a cab and I'll meet you when we get down. 24 00:00:51,690 --> 00:00:54,326 - Hello? - Okay, I'll be there soon. 25 00:00:54,327 --> 00:00:55,693 - Oh! - Nate? 26 00:00:55,694 --> 00:00:57,562 - The hell was that? - Nate? 27 00:00:57,563 --> 00:00:58,963 Oh! 28 00:00:58,964 --> 00:01:00,198 Hello? Nate? 29 00:01:00,199 --> 00:01:01,733 You still with me, buddy? 30 00:01:01,734 --> 00:01:02,934 Nate! 31 00:01:02,935 --> 00:01:04,502 Stop messing around, dude. 32 00:01:04,503 --> 00:01:06,472 Hello? 33 00:01:07,673 --> 00:01:08,840 Nate! 34 00:01:10,143 --> 00:01:12,277 Hello? Nate? 35 00:01:15,281 --> 00:01:16,414 What's going on, buddy? 36 00:01:16,415 --> 00:01:17,915 Ugh. Shooter. 37 00:01:17,916 --> 00:01:20,084 Did you say 'shooter'? Dude, it's hard to hear you. 38 00:01:20,085 --> 00:01:21,386 Did you say 'shooter'? 39 00:01:21,387 --> 00:01:23,455 - Someone's trying to kill me. - What are you... 40 00:01:23,456 --> 00:01:24,856 What are you talking about? 41 00:01:24,857 --> 00:01:26,658 Okay, you need to give me your location, man. 42 00:01:26,659 --> 00:01:28,193 Like, a street name, anything. 43 00:01:28,194 --> 00:01:30,027 - Just give me something. - Ugh. 44 00:01:30,028 --> 00:01:31,763 Nate? 45 00:01:31,764 --> 00:01:33,731 Nate, buddy? 46 00:01:33,732 --> 00:01:34,799 Talk to me, Nate! 47 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,635 Nate?! 48 00:01:37,436 --> 00:01:38,937 Dammit! Nate! 49 00:01:39,905 --> 00:01:41,439 Nate, talk to me! 50 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,977 Buddy! Nate! 51 00:02:20,779 --> 00:02:22,447 Special Agent Mackey, NCIS. 52 00:02:23,916 --> 00:02:25,551 Is there a problem? 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,921 Thank you, Special Agent Mackey. 54 00:02:36,061 --> 00:02:38,230 Chief Petty Officer Nathaniel 'Nate' Holbrook, 55 00:02:38,231 --> 00:02:40,097 stationed out of Mayport, Florida. 56 00:02:40,098 --> 00:02:41,466 He was out here on leave. 57 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:43,167 Flew out with his brother a few days ago. 58 00:02:43,168 --> 00:02:44,702 Thank you. 59 00:02:44,703 --> 00:02:46,070 Welcome to Sydney. 60 00:02:49,107 --> 00:02:52,143 The shots were fired about a hundred meters down the road. 61 00:02:52,144 --> 00:02:54,380 That's where he caught the wound to his torso. 62 00:02:56,181 --> 00:02:57,982 Stuffing from a toy koala. 63 00:02:57,983 --> 00:02:59,517 The shot went right through them both. 64 00:02:59,518 --> 00:03:01,986 Poor bastard ran till he was brought down. 65 00:03:01,987 --> 00:03:04,256 Second round must have gone through his heart 66 00:03:04,257 --> 00:03:05,791 if he dropped like that. 67 00:03:06,525 --> 00:03:09,261 He would have... He would have died in seconds. 68 00:03:09,262 --> 00:03:11,195 - Anyone else hit? - No. 69 00:03:11,196 --> 00:03:13,465 Packed street, and the killer 70 00:03:13,466 --> 00:03:15,199 focuses his fire on our boy. 71 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,668 Why? 72 00:03:16,669 --> 00:03:19,337 Yeah, he seems to have a fan base too. 73 00:03:19,338 --> 00:03:22,140 - Holbrook, right? - Yeah, Nathaniel Holbrook. 74 00:03:25,043 --> 00:03:27,045 Justice for Zoe! 75 00:03:34,887 --> 00:03:36,554 Justice for Zoe. 76 00:03:36,555 --> 00:03:38,990 True crime podcast superfans. 77 00:03:38,991 --> 00:03:41,326 Marsh Family Murders. 78 00:03:41,327 --> 00:03:43,328 It's a podcast based on an Aussie family, 79 00:03:43,329 --> 00:03:44,529 two parents and a daughter, 80 00:03:44,530 --> 00:03:46,564 who were murdered on Thanksgiving Day. 81 00:03:46,565 --> 00:03:47,565 What happened in the end? 82 00:03:47,566 --> 00:03:49,501 Well, according to this, 83 00:03:49,502 --> 00:03:51,068 absolutely nothing. 84 00:03:51,069 --> 00:03:53,204 No one ever stood trial for their deaths. 85 00:03:53,205 --> 00:03:54,706 But the main suspect 86 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:56,908 was US Navy Chief Petty Officer... 87 00:03:56,909 --> 00:03:58,577 Nate Holbrook. 88 00:04:00,178 --> 00:04:02,814 Nate used to date the murdered daughter, Zoe Marsh. 89 00:04:02,815 --> 00:04:05,784 Looks like someone got their justice in the end. 90 00:04:10,923 --> 00:04:13,358 Sorry, little fella. 91 00:04:13,359 --> 00:04:15,126 You're supposed to be a protected species. 92 00:04:15,127 --> 00:04:16,495 Evie! 93 00:04:19,565 --> 00:04:21,133 Got another one. 94 00:04:23,569 --> 00:04:25,236 Come on. 95 00:04:25,237 --> 00:04:26,938 Check it out. 96 00:04:26,939 --> 00:04:29,541 ...308, full metal jacket. 97 00:04:29,542 --> 00:04:31,476 Favored by long-distance shooters. 98 00:04:31,477 --> 00:04:33,045 That's comforting. 99 00:04:35,113 --> 00:04:37,483 Sounds like we got ourselves a sniper. 100 00:04:38,283 --> 00:04:40,017 Angle of fire suggests the shooter 101 00:04:40,018 --> 00:04:42,354 had an elevated position. 102 00:04:42,355 --> 00:04:44,189 Plenty of options. 103 00:04:45,290 --> 00:04:46,859 Let's narrow 'em down, then. 104 00:04:56,335 --> 00:04:58,970 Damn! Hell of a shot. 105 00:04:58,971 --> 00:05:01,406 Yeah, I could make that. 106 00:05:01,407 --> 00:05:03,240 Girl, in your dreams. 107 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:05,777 I took out Hansie from a moving boat. 108 00:05:05,778 --> 00:05:07,311 A croc chalked up that hit. 109 00:05:07,312 --> 00:05:08,981 - Oh, whatever. - Ugh! 110 00:05:10,683 --> 00:05:12,951 Shooter doesn't seem bothered about leaving evidence. 111 00:05:21,494 --> 00:05:22,995 D. 112 00:05:26,665 --> 00:05:28,099 What is that? Opal? 113 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,935 Yeah, not just any opal. Black opal. 114 00:05:30,936 --> 00:05:32,470 Rarest of the rare. 115 00:05:32,471 --> 00:05:34,038 Not something you leave behind. 116 00:05:34,039 --> 00:05:36,041 Unless you're making a statement. 117 00:05:48,921 --> 00:05:52,089 Zoe Marsh, her mother, Jacquie, and her father, Brendan, 118 00:05:52,090 --> 00:05:53,758 sat down to celebrate Thanksgiving 119 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:58,362 with Zoe's boyfriend, US Navy sailor Nate Holbrook. 120 00:05:58,363 --> 00:05:59,664 None of the Marsh family 121 00:05:59,665 --> 00:06:01,766 made it through to the pumpkin pie dessert. 122 00:06:01,767 --> 00:06:04,402 Zoe's boyfriend was found covered in blood, 123 00:06:04,403 --> 00:06:05,637 clutching a shotgun, 124 00:06:05,638 --> 00:06:07,939 with gunpowder residue on his hands. 125 00:06:07,940 --> 00:06:12,076 He had no plausible alibi, yet the case never went to trial. 126 00:06:12,077 --> 00:06:16,147 Five years on and a lot of people are still asking why. 127 00:06:16,148 --> 00:06:17,749 I'm Lucinda Wainwright. 128 00:06:17,750 --> 00:06:22,186 Join me as I find answers to what really happened that day. 129 00:06:24,089 --> 00:06:25,156 The real mystery is 130 00:06:25,157 --> 00:06:26,991 why they were celebrating Thanksgiving. 131 00:06:26,992 --> 00:06:28,225 It was Thanksgiving Day. 132 00:06:28,226 --> 00:06:30,928 It's not an Aussie thing, D. You know that, right? 133 00:06:30,929 --> 00:06:32,464 Y'all appropriate Halloween. 134 00:06:32,465 --> 00:06:33,965 You know, why miss out on a chance 135 00:06:33,966 --> 00:06:36,367 to eat turkey and cornbread with your nearest and dearest? 136 00:06:36,368 --> 00:06:37,635 Because turkey's a dry bird. 137 00:06:37,636 --> 00:06:38,636 See, now, 138 00:06:38,637 --> 00:06:40,438 you ain't tried my grandma's turkey. 139 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:42,807 The trick is buttermilk brine. 140 00:06:42,808 --> 00:06:44,108 Three whole days. 141 00:06:44,109 --> 00:06:46,511 Then there's the butter that she slips under the skin. 142 00:06:46,512 --> 00:06:47,445 D... 143 00:06:47,446 --> 00:06:49,013 Bacon grease all over the breast meat. 144 00:06:49,014 --> 00:06:51,649 Then that special basting of her garlic butter every half-hour. 145 00:06:51,650 --> 00:06:53,651 D, come on, you're giving me hunger pains. 146 00:06:53,652 --> 00:06:55,119 Yeah, giving me a coronary. 147 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,522 Does the podcast have a theory as to motive? 148 00:06:57,523 --> 00:06:59,290 Episode 2: The Letters. 149 00:06:59,291 --> 00:07:01,826 Covers Nate's possible motive. 150 00:07:01,827 --> 00:07:03,495 According to the podcast, 151 00:07:03,496 --> 00:07:05,797 Zoe was suspected of cheating on Nate. 152 00:07:05,798 --> 00:07:08,399 He supposedly found letters to her from a mystery lover 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,801 and just snapped. 154 00:07:09,802 --> 00:07:10,868 Hmm. 155 00:07:10,869 --> 00:07:11,969 Theory is 156 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:13,738 Nate then draped the letters 157 00:07:13,739 --> 00:07:16,140 over Zoe's body after he shot her. 158 00:07:16,141 --> 00:07:18,275 - The police charged him, right? - Initially. 159 00:07:18,276 --> 00:07:20,545 But the Department of Public Prosecutions 160 00:07:20,546 --> 00:07:21,946 declined to prosecute, 161 00:07:21,947 --> 00:07:25,817 as featured on Episode 6: Justice Never Served. 162 00:07:25,818 --> 00:07:27,519 So what happened? Not enough evidence? 163 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,187 See, to answer that, y'all want Episode 7: Cover-Up. 164 00:07:30,188 --> 00:07:32,389 Which is part 1 of 2. It's a banger. 165 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:33,891 Who did the covering up? 166 00:07:33,892 --> 00:07:37,361 Well, according to this, we did. The US Navy. 167 00:07:37,362 --> 00:07:39,564 The NCIS case at the time 168 00:07:39,565 --> 00:07:41,533 states Nate was granted emergency leave. 169 00:07:41,534 --> 00:07:43,034 Once he returned to the States, 170 00:07:43,035 --> 00:07:44,902 charges were mysteriously dropped. 171 00:07:44,903 --> 00:07:47,372 - I want that file. - Sitting in your inbox. 172 00:07:48,173 --> 00:07:50,341 Hey, Blue, how are we going, uh, fingerprint-wise? 173 00:07:50,342 --> 00:07:53,377 Uh, not very wise. No prints. 174 00:07:53,378 --> 00:07:55,680 But I'm running the DNA from the coffee cup 175 00:07:55,681 --> 00:07:57,414 and cigarettes from the sniper's nest. 176 00:07:57,415 --> 00:08:00,151 Figure we'll check out the gun ranges around town. 177 00:08:00,152 --> 00:08:02,386 Guy was a hotshot. Only comes with practice. 178 00:08:02,387 --> 00:08:03,721 Or natural talent. 179 00:08:03,722 --> 00:08:05,557 Bit of luck, we match the gun and ammo 180 00:08:05,558 --> 00:08:07,359 with the names from the podcast's subscriber list. 181 00:08:16,769 --> 00:08:20,237 Now, um, I believe you have my brother's body. 182 00:08:20,238 --> 00:08:21,873 Appreciate everything you're... you're doing 183 00:08:21,874 --> 00:08:23,741 to catch whoever killed my little brother. 184 00:08:23,742 --> 00:08:25,910 Why did Nate come back after all these years? 185 00:08:25,911 --> 00:08:27,945 Wainwright got in contact. 186 00:08:27,946 --> 00:08:29,914 Sweet-talked Nate into coming to Australia 187 00:08:29,915 --> 00:08:31,115 to tell his side of events. 188 00:08:31,116 --> 00:08:33,417 - Nate went on the podcast? - Yeah. 189 00:08:33,418 --> 00:08:37,656 He recorded a vlog interview yesterday with Lucinda. 190 00:08:39,892 --> 00:08:42,060 The Marshes were like a family to Nate. 191 00:08:42,995 --> 00:08:44,596 Zoe was his sweetheart. 192 00:08:44,597 --> 00:08:45,963 He couldn't stand the thought 193 00:08:45,964 --> 00:08:49,234 that the actual killer was still out there, so... 194 00:08:50,903 --> 00:08:53,972 I mean, I came out to make sure he had someone in his corner. 195 00:08:58,076 --> 00:09:00,845 I had to perform a full autopsy. 196 00:09:00,846 --> 00:09:02,647 I've, uh, sewn him back up, 197 00:09:02,648 --> 00:09:04,281 but you might find... 198 00:09:04,282 --> 00:09:07,019 ...my handiwork a little confronting. 199 00:09:10,522 --> 00:09:13,591 I'd like to say goodbye, if that's all right. 200 00:09:13,592 --> 00:09:15,828 That's fair enough. 201 00:09:32,277 --> 00:09:33,746 Hmm. 202 00:09:35,547 --> 00:09:38,616 He... uh, he worked with his hands, I see. 203 00:09:38,617 --> 00:09:40,952 I'm sorry. 204 00:09:40,953 --> 00:09:43,655 Yeah, um, he was a machinist's mate. 205 00:09:43,656 --> 00:09:45,122 He said pulling engines apart 206 00:09:45,123 --> 00:09:46,824 and putting them back together was... 207 00:09:46,825 --> 00:09:49,026 Well, it was his happy place. 208 00:09:49,027 --> 00:09:50,428 Mm-hm. 209 00:09:51,563 --> 00:09:54,065 God, I'm so sorry, bro. 210 00:09:54,066 --> 00:09:56,201 I let you down. 211 00:10:02,374 --> 00:10:03,741 Listen, son. 212 00:10:03,742 --> 00:10:05,310 You take your time. 213 00:10:06,344 --> 00:10:10,381 I mean, the grief of losing someone close is unimaginable. 214 00:10:10,382 --> 00:10:11,717 But... 215 00:10:13,886 --> 00:10:18,355 Losing family, it's... it's on another level entirely. 216 00:10:18,356 --> 00:10:20,025 You speaking from experience? 217 00:10:21,059 --> 00:10:22,895 Hmm. 218 00:10:24,229 --> 00:10:28,532 Just one thing that's been bugging me. 219 00:10:28,533 --> 00:10:31,035 Your brother, did he own a toy koala? 220 00:10:31,036 --> 00:10:33,337 Clarence. 221 00:10:33,338 --> 00:10:34,706 - Oh? - Yeah, we, uh... 222 00:10:34,707 --> 00:10:36,708 I bought him for... 223 00:10:36,709 --> 00:10:39,210 ...for, uh, our niece. 224 00:10:39,211 --> 00:10:42,147 We made sure Clarence photobombed all of our pictures. 225 00:10:44,983 --> 00:10:48,253 We were actually gonna go hiking in the Blue Mountains today. 226 00:10:49,254 --> 00:10:50,756 I'm sorry. 227 00:10:52,791 --> 00:10:54,592 I'm sorry for your loss. 228 00:11:05,403 --> 00:11:07,138 I pulled the cold case files. 229 00:11:07,139 --> 00:11:09,707 Maybe shed some light on whether Nate really killed that family. 230 00:11:09,708 --> 00:11:11,208 It's kind of beside the point. 231 00:11:11,209 --> 00:11:12,376 All that really matters 232 00:11:12,377 --> 00:11:13,945 is whether or not our killer believed he did. 233 00:11:15,113 --> 00:11:17,983 Hi. Come on through. 234 00:11:21,119 --> 00:11:23,587 Oh, my ex enjoyed The Chancery Lane Killings. 235 00:11:23,588 --> 00:11:26,924 Used to listen to it on long road trips down the coast. 236 00:11:26,925 --> 00:11:28,760 Killer went down for it in the end, 237 00:11:28,761 --> 00:11:30,928 thanks to your investigation, if I remember. 238 00:11:30,929 --> 00:11:32,964 I like to think I played a small part 239 00:11:32,965 --> 00:11:33,998 in reopening the case. 240 00:11:33,999 --> 00:11:36,934 What about you, Agent Mackey? 241 00:11:36,935 --> 00:11:39,871 I liked Serial. That one of yours? 242 00:11:39,872 --> 00:11:40,905 No. 243 00:11:40,906 --> 00:11:42,140 Hm. 244 00:11:44,609 --> 00:11:46,744 Maybe we should talk about Nate Holbrook's murder. 245 00:11:46,745 --> 00:11:49,914 Yeah, that was horrible. The poor brother. 246 00:11:49,915 --> 00:11:52,383 Do you have any leads yet? 247 00:11:52,384 --> 00:11:54,618 Ah, running a few angles. 248 00:11:54,619 --> 00:11:56,821 Internet vigilantism is one of them. 249 00:11:56,822 --> 00:11:58,956 Really? As in one of my listeners? 250 00:11:58,957 --> 00:12:02,626 #Justice4ZoeMarsh had a big presence at our crime scene. 251 00:12:02,627 --> 00:12:04,696 Well, word travels fast. People care. 252 00:12:05,697 --> 00:12:08,165 People who'd be willing to take matters into their own hands? 253 00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:12,469 I mean, I have over a million subscribers. How would I know? 254 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:13,805 You got a chat room? 255 00:12:13,806 --> 00:12:16,841 Anyone use violent language directed at Nate? 256 00:12:16,842 --> 00:12:17,842 Some. 257 00:12:17,843 --> 00:12:18,943 But would any of them 258 00:12:18,944 --> 00:12:20,411 take their frustration beyond the keyboard? 259 00:12:20,412 --> 00:12:22,080 I really couldn't say. 260 00:12:22,848 --> 00:12:26,083 - You interviewed Nate yesterday. - He reached out. 261 00:12:26,084 --> 00:12:28,652 We heard it was the other way around. 262 00:12:28,653 --> 00:12:30,487 No, he was desperate to clear his name. 263 00:12:30,488 --> 00:12:32,457 I just gave him the opportunity. 264 00:12:33,391 --> 00:12:35,226 I'm gonna need a copy of that recording. 265 00:12:35,227 --> 00:12:36,828 Sure. 266 00:12:36,829 --> 00:12:38,996 You know, if Nate's killer is 267 00:12:38,997 --> 00:12:41,298 some sort of internet vigilante, 268 00:12:41,299 --> 00:12:44,302 chances are they listen to my podcast, right? 269 00:12:45,403 --> 00:12:46,337 So? 270 00:12:46,338 --> 00:12:48,205 So you should come on my show 271 00:12:48,206 --> 00:12:50,307 and talk to them direct. 272 00:12:50,308 --> 00:12:51,843 You know, maybe that's not such a crazy idea... 273 00:12:51,844 --> 00:12:54,145 - That is a crazy idea. - Oh, go on. 274 00:12:54,146 --> 00:12:56,480 We could go live. 275 00:12:56,481 --> 00:12:59,183 You can engage with my listeners directly. 276 00:12:59,184 --> 00:13:00,485 And who knows? 277 00:13:01,386 --> 00:13:03,655 You might even catch a break. 278 00:13:11,596 --> 00:13:13,265 Thanks for your time. 279 00:13:24,709 --> 00:13:27,078 - Can I help you? - Luka Litchfield? 280 00:13:27,079 --> 00:13:28,679 Yep, that's me. 281 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:30,514 Special Agent Jackson, NCIS. 282 00:13:30,515 --> 00:13:33,751 Constable Evie Cooper, AFP. We called ahead. 283 00:13:34,752 --> 00:13:36,220 Thought you said lunchtime. 284 00:13:36,221 --> 00:13:38,055 We've been to every gun range in Sydney. 285 00:13:38,056 --> 00:13:39,356 You're lucky last. 286 00:13:39,357 --> 00:13:42,193 Oh, remind me to buy a lottery ticket. 287 00:13:43,261 --> 00:13:44,295 We're gonna need a list 288 00:13:44,296 --> 00:13:45,529 of all your target shooters 289 00:13:45,530 --> 00:13:47,398 and their registered firearms with your club. 290 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:49,033 Specifically high-caliber rifles 291 00:13:49,034 --> 00:13:52,004 firing .308 full metal jacket rounds. 292 00:13:53,505 --> 00:13:55,572 Oh, we've got a new fandangled system, 293 00:13:55,573 --> 00:13:56,773 so it'll take me a beat. 294 00:13:56,774 --> 00:13:58,110 Oh, we can wait. 295 00:14:02,114 --> 00:14:03,347 Ooh! 296 00:14:03,348 --> 00:14:05,582 - While we do... - Really? 297 00:14:05,583 --> 00:14:08,452 You seriously wanna get shown up, soldier boy? 298 00:14:08,453 --> 00:14:09,887 Hope you brought your textbook, 299 00:14:09,888 --> 00:14:11,288 'cause I'm taking you to school. 300 00:14:11,289 --> 00:14:13,791 Oh. 301 00:14:20,065 --> 00:14:21,298 Whoo-hoo-hoo! 302 00:14:22,901 --> 00:14:25,769 Four center circle, two outside. 303 00:14:25,770 --> 00:14:28,105 Three center circle. 304 00:14:28,106 --> 00:14:30,441 That one is outside the line, D. 305 00:14:30,442 --> 00:14:31,742 On the line. 306 00:14:31,743 --> 00:14:34,679 NRL rules, baby. On the line is out. 307 00:14:44,957 --> 00:14:47,592 - Three center circle. - Three outside. 308 00:14:48,493 --> 00:14:50,128 We tied again. 309 00:14:51,029 --> 00:14:53,464 Go again? Next one wins? 310 00:14:53,465 --> 00:14:55,299 Oi, you two. 311 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:57,801 Sorry, I got into the register, but it's telling me 312 00:14:57,802 --> 00:15:00,304 the printer's not connected or something. 313 00:15:00,305 --> 00:15:01,939 Oh, yeah, yeah, email's fine. 314 00:15:01,940 --> 00:15:04,708 We're under the gun, so to speak. 315 00:15:10,482 --> 00:15:13,084 I don't know what the hell happened that day. 316 00:15:13,085 --> 00:15:14,351 You know, I wish I did. 317 00:15:14,352 --> 00:15:16,487 And where were you at the time of the murders? 318 00:15:16,488 --> 00:15:18,155 Well, party was going well. 319 00:15:18,156 --> 00:15:20,324 You know, we were having a good time. 320 00:15:20,325 --> 00:15:22,994 Um, I went out to get some beer. 321 00:15:22,995 --> 00:15:26,098 When I got back, Zoe... 322 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:28,900 Her entire family... 323 00:15:30,868 --> 00:15:32,603 There was a lot of blood. 324 00:15:32,604 --> 00:15:34,371 I got it all over me. 325 00:15:34,372 --> 00:15:37,008 You were clocked leaving the liquor store at 2:25, 326 00:15:37,009 --> 00:15:39,210 but you didn't call the police until 3:30. 327 00:15:39,211 --> 00:15:40,811 - What happened in the interim? - Yeah. 328 00:15:40,812 --> 00:15:42,346 I got a flat tire on the way home. 329 00:15:42,347 --> 00:15:45,349 I had no jack in the back of my pickup, 330 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:47,051 so I had to use what I had. 331 00:15:47,052 --> 00:15:48,719 I've been over this. 332 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,355 Seriously? The old flat-tire alibi? 333 00:15:51,356 --> 00:15:53,357 What does he think this is, Murder, She Wrote? 334 00:15:53,358 --> 00:15:54,858 - Is anyone buying this? - What, the alibi? 335 00:15:54,859 --> 00:15:57,528 Or the fact that you name- checked a 40-year-old TV show? 336 00:15:57,529 --> 00:15:59,563 - Come on. - You're on the news, boss. 337 00:15:59,564 --> 00:16:01,732 Or should I say, you are the news. 338 00:16:01,733 --> 00:16:04,968 In the latest installment of the Marsh Family Murders, 339 00:16:04,969 --> 00:16:06,903 the net widens as NCIS 340 00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:08,872 investigate Nate Holbrook's murder. 341 00:16:08,873 --> 00:16:10,741 Will they unveil the truth 342 00:16:10,742 --> 00:16:13,145 or will the cover-up continue? 343 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,914 - We should go on her show. - She's baiting us. 344 00:16:17,915 --> 00:16:20,217 That's been up there, what, half an hour. 345 00:16:20,218 --> 00:16:22,519 - Have a go at all the likes. - I'm not doing it. 346 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,722 Come on, she's offering us a chance to connect directly 347 00:16:25,723 --> 00:16:27,258 with millions of listeners 348 00:16:27,259 --> 00:16:28,725 who might be able to help us with the case. 349 00:16:28,726 --> 00:16:32,529 It is a podcast, JD, and we're cops. At least I am. 350 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:35,099 Chances are Nate's killer's gonna tune in. 351 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:38,735 And when they do, I want us to be there. 352 00:16:49,681 --> 00:16:52,216 For the record, this is one of your stupider ideas. 353 00:16:52,217 --> 00:16:53,684 You really don't like her, do you? 354 00:16:53,685 --> 00:16:54,885 I have no opinion either way. 355 00:16:54,886 --> 00:16:56,920 Is it 'cause of her success in solving crime? 356 00:16:56,921 --> 00:16:58,021 Let's be clear. 357 00:16:58,022 --> 00:17:00,824 She sells advertising space, I solve crime. 358 00:17:02,227 --> 00:17:05,262 Hey, just remember, when you speak, to modulate your voice. 359 00:17:05,263 --> 00:17:07,064 You don't want the listeners falling asleep 360 00:17:07,065 --> 00:17:08,465 'cause you're all Monotone Mackey. 361 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:11,102 Okay, Wolfman Jack, just worry about yourself. 362 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:14,305 Today we are lucky enough 363 00:17:14,306 --> 00:17:17,641 to be joined by NCIS Special Agent Michelle Mackey 364 00:17:17,642 --> 00:17:20,744 and her AFP counterpart, Sergeant Jim Dempsey. 365 00:17:20,745 --> 00:17:23,947 I am so excited to have you both on the show. 366 00:17:23,948 --> 00:17:26,817 Our first transcontinental crime-fighting duo. 367 00:17:26,818 --> 00:17:29,120 - Pleasure to be here. - Thanks for the invite. 368 00:17:29,121 --> 00:17:30,621 Can I start by asking 369 00:17:30,622 --> 00:17:33,325 why you both came on the show in the first place? 370 00:17:34,792 --> 00:17:36,528 Hi there, folks. 371 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:40,831 It's simple, really. 372 00:17:40,832 --> 00:17:42,966 We're investigating Nate Holbrook's murder 373 00:17:42,967 --> 00:17:45,469 and wondering if anyone has seen anything, 374 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:48,705 heard anything, that might relate to what happened. 375 00:17:48,706 --> 00:17:50,474 Right on, Macka. 376 00:17:50,475 --> 00:17:54,245 So, over to you good people at home. 377 00:17:54,246 --> 00:17:55,646 If you have any information 378 00:17:55,647 --> 00:17:58,282 that could point us in the direction of Nate's shooter, 379 00:17:58,283 --> 00:18:01,585 be sure to call or text the number on the screen. 380 00:18:01,586 --> 00:18:03,454 You heard Sergeant Dempsey. 381 00:18:03,455 --> 00:18:04,955 We are now open for questions. 382 00:18:04,956 --> 00:18:07,924 #MarshFamilyMurders. 383 00:18:07,925 --> 00:18:09,126 Next one. 384 00:18:09,127 --> 00:18:10,461 Stirling Merrifield. 385 00:18:11,863 --> 00:18:15,500 - Evie. Stirling Merrifield. - Shh! 386 00:18:17,202 --> 00:18:19,102 While we wait for the calls to come through, 387 00:18:19,103 --> 00:18:20,337 perhaps you can tell us about 388 00:18:20,338 --> 00:18:23,140 the US-Australian Law Enforcement Partnership. 389 00:18:23,141 --> 00:18:25,776 How's that going for you, Agent Mackey? 390 00:18:25,777 --> 00:18:26,977 It's terrific. 391 00:18:26,978 --> 00:18:28,512 Believe it or not, we're a great 392 00:18:28,513 --> 00:18:29,813 cultural fit. 393 00:18:29,814 --> 00:18:31,148 There... 394 00:18:37,021 --> 00:18:38,355 There were some... 395 00:18:38,356 --> 00:18:40,824 There were some natural teething issues 396 00:18:40,825 --> 00:18:41,825 at first. 397 00:18:41,826 --> 00:18:44,361 Uh, I think they thought we'd last, 398 00:18:44,362 --> 00:18:45,996 you know, like, two weeks. 399 00:18:45,997 --> 00:18:48,565 But here we are, still doing our thing. 400 00:18:48,566 --> 00:18:51,034 - Yeah. - Uh... 401 00:18:51,035 --> 00:18:52,537 Doing our thang. 402 00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:58,008 Did I say what a tremendous opportunity 403 00:18:58,009 --> 00:18:59,276 it is to be on the show? 404 00:18:59,277 --> 00:19:02,746 Mm, I think what Agent Mackey is trying to say is 405 00:19:02,747 --> 00:19:04,981 how much she enjoys working with the Australian law enforcement. 406 00:19:04,982 --> 00:19:06,883 I'm so glad to hear that. 407 00:19:06,884 --> 00:19:09,920 Can I start with a question for you, Agent Mackey? 408 00:19:09,921 --> 00:19:10,987 Shoot. 409 00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:12,323 Let's talk about Nate Holbrook 410 00:19:12,324 --> 00:19:14,358 and the multiple homicide charges 411 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,692 that have been leveled against him. 412 00:19:15,693 --> 00:19:17,361 As you know, Lucinda, 413 00:19:17,362 --> 00:19:19,896 the public prosecutor declined to take the case 414 00:19:19,897 --> 00:19:21,732 and dropped all charges. 415 00:19:21,733 --> 00:19:24,201 That's technically true, but they had to 416 00:19:24,202 --> 00:19:26,036 because Nate skipped the country. 417 00:19:26,037 --> 00:19:29,005 According to the affidavit, he had a health emergency. 418 00:19:29,006 --> 00:19:31,342 Nate needed treatment back in the States. 419 00:19:31,343 --> 00:19:33,377 A health emergency that kicked in a day before 420 00:19:33,378 --> 00:19:35,747 the case was supposed to go to a committal hearing? 421 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:40,083 Uh, bad timing, for sure. 422 00:19:40,084 --> 00:19:41,685 Police files and evidence boxes 423 00:19:41,686 --> 00:19:44,921 from the original case that JD requested, with more to come. 424 00:19:44,922 --> 00:19:46,757 Is there anything from your listeners? 425 00:19:46,758 --> 00:19:48,459 Nothing yet, but that happens. 426 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:49,726 No one wants to go first. 427 00:19:49,727 --> 00:19:51,928 Just takes one person to get the ball rolling. 428 00:19:51,929 --> 00:19:55,399 All right, come on, folks. We need your help. 429 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,601 Doesn't matter how irrelevant you think it might be. 430 00:19:57,602 --> 00:19:58,835 Any piece of information 431 00:19:58,836 --> 00:20:01,104 could be the lead that helps break our case. 432 00:20:01,105 --> 00:20:02,573 Wow. 433 00:20:02,574 --> 00:20:04,741 They are dying out there. 434 00:20:04,742 --> 00:20:07,778 You should help them out. Throw 'em a bone. 435 00:20:07,779 --> 00:20:10,113 God, no. This is amazing. 436 00:20:10,114 --> 00:20:12,149 Shove over. 437 00:20:15,587 --> 00:20:17,955 Really? That's your bone? 438 00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:22,259 Okay, we do have one question from Nicky Rimz. 439 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:24,094 Have you ever used your handcuffs 440 00:20:24,095 --> 00:20:27,064 or any other form of restraints on each other? 441 00:20:30,468 --> 00:20:33,437 Oh, man, damn! Is that the best you got? 442 00:20:33,438 --> 00:20:35,972 I'm just trying to get the conversation started. 443 00:20:35,973 --> 00:20:39,109 That is a negative, Nicky. 444 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:42,979 Okay. Uh, and another one from Hugh Jarse. 445 00:20:45,216 --> 00:20:46,783 Do you practice patting each other down? 446 00:20:46,784 --> 00:20:49,386 All right, okay, folks. Let's stay on track. 447 00:20:49,387 --> 00:20:51,488 We need your help to catch a killer. 448 00:20:51,489 --> 00:20:53,624 Out of all the people you've traded words with 449 00:20:53,625 --> 00:20:54,958 in the podcast chat room, 450 00:20:54,959 --> 00:20:57,160 who would be your go-to person of interest 451 00:20:57,161 --> 00:20:58,395 you'd want to speak to? 452 00:20:58,396 --> 00:21:01,097 We do have one name being offered up 453 00:21:01,098 --> 00:21:03,334 by some of the listeners. 454 00:21:03,335 --> 00:21:06,036 Freddy Rasmussen. Does that mean anything to you? 455 00:21:06,037 --> 00:21:07,971 Not yet. 456 00:21:07,972 --> 00:21:09,741 Pulling up his chat log now. 457 00:21:11,142 --> 00:21:12,275 Whoa. 458 00:21:12,276 --> 00:21:13,610 "Only justice for Zoe 459 00:21:13,611 --> 00:21:17,348 "comes in the form of 180-grain full metal jacket." 460 00:21:17,349 --> 00:21:18,515 Gun club records show 461 00:21:18,516 --> 00:21:21,185 that Rasmussen owns a Winchester .308. 462 00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:34,365 Freddy Rasmussen. 463 00:21:34,366 --> 00:21:35,666 Sergeant Dempsey, AFP. 464 00:21:35,667 --> 00:21:37,801 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 465 00:21:37,802 --> 00:21:40,704 Special Agent Mackey, NCIS. 466 00:21:40,705 --> 00:21:43,607 We've already met, haven't we, Freddy? 467 00:21:43,608 --> 00:21:45,008 In Chinatown. 468 00:21:45,009 --> 00:21:46,377 You got a warrant? 469 00:21:46,378 --> 00:21:48,346 Are we gonna need one? 470 00:21:52,183 --> 00:21:53,550 Where were you yesterday 471 00:21:53,551 --> 00:21:54,851 between 8:00 and 10:00pm? 472 00:21:54,852 --> 00:21:55,886 I was out. 473 00:21:55,887 --> 00:21:58,154 Out where? Doing what? 474 00:21:58,155 --> 00:22:00,190 Keeping vigil for Zoe. 475 00:22:00,191 --> 00:22:03,627 "Keeping vigil"? What does that mean? 476 00:22:03,628 --> 00:22:05,228 I stood outside a hotel 477 00:22:05,229 --> 00:22:07,531 waiting for that coward Nate Holbrook to show. 478 00:22:07,532 --> 00:22:09,733 I wanted to give him a piece of my mind. 479 00:22:09,734 --> 00:22:11,201 And did you? 480 00:22:11,202 --> 00:22:14,070 Holbrook saw me, ran out the back way. 481 00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:16,039 Old habits die hard. 482 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,708 You own a Winchester .308? 483 00:22:17,709 --> 00:22:19,342 You know I do. It's why you're here. 484 00:22:19,343 --> 00:22:21,845 - Where do you keep it? - The gun club, usually. 485 00:22:21,846 --> 00:22:23,614 Usually? 486 00:22:23,615 --> 00:22:24,781 It's in my car. 487 00:22:24,782 --> 00:22:26,851 Going away for the weekend. 488 00:22:49,073 --> 00:22:50,808 Fired it recently? 489 00:22:51,743 --> 00:22:53,578 Not that I can recall. 490 00:22:58,382 --> 00:23:01,418 Rasmussen's wife, Helen, was murdered three years ago. 491 00:23:01,419 --> 00:23:03,520 That's what the shrine in his house was about. 492 00:23:03,521 --> 00:23:06,723 Killer took his own life before the case could go to trial. 493 00:23:06,724 --> 00:23:09,160 So he never got justice for his wife's murder? 494 00:23:10,061 --> 00:23:11,596 Maybe he can for Zoe? 495 00:23:14,932 --> 00:23:16,801 Sorry about your wife, mate. 496 00:23:17,835 --> 00:23:19,270 Helen, isn't it? 497 00:23:21,473 --> 00:23:23,107 You got people around you? 498 00:23:24,742 --> 00:23:26,943 I joined the Victims of Crime support group. 499 00:23:26,944 --> 00:23:28,546 They have regular meet-ups. 500 00:23:29,581 --> 00:23:30,614 Does it help? 501 00:23:34,251 --> 00:23:36,219 A guy there suggested I find a hobby. 502 00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:38,255 It's how I came to target shooting. 503 00:23:39,256 --> 00:23:40,958 Helped fill the days. 504 00:23:41,726 --> 00:23:45,830 It's the nights that are, uh, the hardest, though, right? 505 00:23:46,864 --> 00:23:48,198 The midnight to dawn. 506 00:23:48,199 --> 00:23:51,035 Everyone wants you to leave the past in the past. 507 00:23:52,136 --> 00:23:53,537 How are you supposed to do that 508 00:23:53,538 --> 00:23:55,472 when you lose the reason you have for living? 509 00:23:55,473 --> 00:23:57,941 Did you kill Nate Holbrook? 510 00:23:57,942 --> 00:23:59,110 Yep. 511 00:24:02,814 --> 00:24:04,314 Every night in my head. 512 00:24:04,315 --> 00:24:06,650 How about last night in Chinatown? 513 00:24:11,222 --> 00:24:14,291 I haven't got it in me to take someone's life. 514 00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:17,595 Really? 515 00:24:19,463 --> 00:24:21,331 "Only justice for Zoe 516 00:24:21,332 --> 00:24:24,868 "comes in the form of a 180-grain full metal jacket." 517 00:24:24,869 --> 00:24:26,236 Meant to mean something? 518 00:24:26,237 --> 00:24:29,641 Well, you tell me. I'm quoting you. 519 00:24:34,378 --> 00:24:37,548 Yeah, sometimes I...I lose myself in those chat rooms. 520 00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:40,785 Stuff comes bubbling up. I didn't mean anything by it. 521 00:24:44,188 --> 00:24:46,557 "You know it's gonna make it that much better 522 00:24:46,558 --> 00:24:49,926 "when we can say goodnight and stay together." 523 00:24:49,927 --> 00:24:52,529 Seriously? I mean, who writes this stuff? 524 00:24:52,530 --> 00:24:54,898 - It's poetry. It's beautiful. - It's Beach Boys. 525 00:24:54,899 --> 00:24:57,301 Yeah, I guess Zoe loved the classics. 526 00:24:59,737 --> 00:25:01,072 Wait. 527 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,709 I thought you said black opal is rare. 528 00:25:05,710 --> 00:25:07,043 It is. 529 00:25:07,044 --> 00:25:08,278 What do you got, D? 530 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:10,146 It looks like the same type of black opal 531 00:25:10,147 --> 00:25:11,915 links both crime scenes, boss. 532 00:25:11,916 --> 00:25:13,917 So is there a chance that whoever killed Nate 533 00:25:13,918 --> 00:25:15,285 was there the day Zoe died? 534 00:25:15,286 --> 00:25:18,521 If so, Nate's not the murderer. 535 00:25:18,522 --> 00:25:21,325 He's just another innocent victim. 536 00:25:22,159 --> 00:25:24,961 It all goes back to the Thanksgiving lunch. 537 00:25:50,655 --> 00:25:52,789 I want everything as it was back in the day. 538 00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,791 Use your crime scene photos as your guide. 539 00:25:54,792 --> 00:25:56,760 You seriously think here's where we get answers? 540 00:25:56,761 --> 00:25:59,062 That, or dysentery. 541 00:26:20,852 --> 00:26:22,986 All right now, big one. Big smiles. 542 00:26:22,987 --> 00:26:25,088 - Happy Thanksgiving. - Happy Thanksgiving! 543 00:26:48,479 --> 00:26:51,214 That's great, yeah! 544 00:26:51,215 --> 00:26:53,616 Oh, sweet! 545 00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:56,179 Wow. Who needs roadside service, eh? 546 00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:58,381 Just testing out Nate's alibi. 547 00:27:58,382 --> 00:28:01,384 Turns out it is possible to change a tire without a jack 548 00:28:01,385 --> 00:28:04,320 and only a tire iron and chainsaw for company. 549 00:28:04,321 --> 00:28:06,022 Huh. 550 00:28:06,023 --> 00:28:07,257 So what's the beer for, then? 551 00:28:07,258 --> 00:28:08,624 Well, Nate was off buying beers, 552 00:28:08,625 --> 00:28:10,426 so I'm just trying to keep it real. 553 00:28:10,427 --> 00:28:11,527 Oh. 554 00:28:11,528 --> 00:28:13,597 And for knockoff. 555 00:28:15,266 --> 00:28:17,200 Yikes! Your hands. 556 00:28:17,201 --> 00:28:19,635 Ah, it's just brake pad dust from the wheels. 557 00:28:19,636 --> 00:28:22,605 Don't worry, Mum. I'm going to wash my hands... 558 00:28:22,606 --> 00:28:25,408 No, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that, whatever you do. 559 00:28:25,409 --> 00:28:27,344 Not until I am done with you. 560 00:28:32,249 --> 00:28:34,284 So the father was shot here, right? 561 00:28:34,285 --> 00:28:35,418 Mm-hm. 562 00:28:35,419 --> 00:28:36,953 Where does that put the shooter? 563 00:28:36,954 --> 00:28:39,022 Well, here, I guess. 564 00:28:39,023 --> 00:28:42,325 Oh, well, that's what the police report suggests. 565 00:28:42,326 --> 00:28:44,560 But as per the coroner's report, 566 00:28:44,561 --> 00:28:46,262 which came out afterwards, 567 00:28:46,263 --> 00:28:48,631 the blast struck Brandon's carotid artery, 568 00:28:48,632 --> 00:28:51,201 meaning a lot of blood would have sprayed forward. 569 00:28:51,202 --> 00:28:55,471 So if Nate was the shooter, blood would have sprayed on him. 570 00:28:55,472 --> 00:28:57,073 Leaving a blood silhouette behind him. 571 00:28:57,074 --> 00:28:58,775 But there isn't one on that photo 572 00:28:58,776 --> 00:29:01,712 because Nate didn't kill Brandon. 573 00:29:04,748 --> 00:29:05,715 Okay, so who did? 574 00:29:05,716 --> 00:29:07,750 Well, based on what we're seeing here, 575 00:29:07,751 --> 00:29:09,385 I'd say 576 00:29:09,386 --> 00:29:11,322 Brandon killed Brandon. 577 00:29:12,256 --> 00:29:14,024 - What, murder-suicide? Why? - Hm. 578 00:29:14,025 --> 00:29:15,792 'Cause Zoe wasn't the one having the affair. 579 00:29:15,793 --> 00:29:18,394 I went back and managed to access her public playlist. 580 00:29:18,395 --> 00:29:20,931 Travis Scott, Nicki Minaj, J. Cole. 581 00:29:20,932 --> 00:29:22,665 She had a poster of Hilltop Hoods on her wall. 582 00:29:22,666 --> 00:29:25,601 But the love letters are full of Beach Boys lyrics. Old school. 583 00:29:25,602 --> 00:29:27,971 See, that ain't the way to a hip-hop girl's heart. 584 00:29:27,972 --> 00:29:29,639 Hm. These weren't Zoe's. 585 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,974 We think they were her mum's. 586 00:29:30,975 --> 00:29:33,677 You're telling me Jacquie was having the affair? 587 00:29:35,646 --> 00:29:37,013 How did the cops miss this? 588 00:29:37,014 --> 00:29:38,514 Well, you think about it. 589 00:29:38,515 --> 00:29:39,682 You come through the door, 590 00:29:39,683 --> 00:29:41,852 you find Nate holding the murder weapon 591 00:29:41,853 --> 00:29:44,821 covered in the victim's blood, gunpowder residue all over him. 592 00:29:44,822 --> 00:29:46,356 With a "cat ate my homework" alibi. 593 00:29:46,357 --> 00:29:48,992 Someone didn't do the work. Went for the low-hanging fruit. 594 00:29:48,993 --> 00:29:50,493 Jumped to the conclusion that if it flaps 595 00:29:50,494 --> 00:29:51,828 like a duck and quacks like a duck... 596 00:29:51,829 --> 00:29:52,996 The wrong person goes to prison. 597 00:29:52,997 --> 00:29:55,365 And years later, has podcasts made about them. 598 00:29:55,366 --> 00:29:56,967 Pff! 599 00:29:56,968 --> 00:29:58,969 Okay, great job, team. 600 00:29:58,970 --> 00:30:01,071 Let's not slap ourselves on the back too hard yet. 601 00:30:01,072 --> 00:30:02,805 We may have solved the cold case, 602 00:30:02,806 --> 00:30:06,410 but we aren't any closer to working out who killed Nate. 603 00:30:13,918 --> 00:30:15,518 Come on, kiddo, don't do this. 604 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:16,819 We just solved the cold case. 605 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:18,388 - DNA doesn't lie. - Exactly. 606 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:19,990 So Dad killed his wife and daughter 607 00:30:19,991 --> 00:30:21,491 and then turned the gun on himself. 608 00:30:21,492 --> 00:30:22,492 I mean, it totally tracks. 609 00:30:22,493 --> 00:30:24,560 Except in this case, he couldn't have. 610 00:30:24,561 --> 00:30:25,661 Why not, exactly? 611 00:30:25,662 --> 00:30:26,863 Because I ran DNA analysis 612 00:30:26,864 --> 00:30:28,031 on the historic victims 613 00:30:28,032 --> 00:30:28,999 and it turns out 614 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,468 that Brandon and Zoe's DNA don't match. 615 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:34,370 What... 616 00:30:34,371 --> 00:30:35,571 Call me old-fashioned, 617 00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:37,207 but shouldn't a father and daughter's DNA match 618 00:30:37,208 --> 00:30:38,508 on some level? 619 00:30:38,509 --> 00:30:41,644 Yes, absolutely, if they are in fact father and daughter. 620 00:30:41,645 --> 00:30:45,081 Wait, Brandon wasn't Zoe's biological dad? 621 00:30:45,082 --> 00:30:47,317 Nope, not according to the laws of science. 622 00:30:47,318 --> 00:30:49,319 So who is Zoe's biological father? 623 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,087 That is what I've been trying to tell you. 624 00:30:51,088 --> 00:30:54,991 So Zoe's DNA is a match for the DNA on the coffee cup 625 00:30:54,992 --> 00:30:57,727 and the cigarette butts found at the scene of Nate's shooting. 626 00:30:57,728 --> 00:30:59,795 - Where we found the opal? - Yes. 627 00:30:59,796 --> 00:31:02,865 - So whoever shot Nate... - is Zoe's biological father. 628 00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:08,039 What are we missing? 629 00:31:08,906 --> 00:31:10,040 Thanksgiving dinner. 630 00:31:10,041 --> 00:31:11,507 Everyone's a few drinks in. 631 00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:14,877 Brandon somehow stumbles onto Jacquie's love letters... 632 00:31:14,878 --> 00:31:16,646 Proving his wife had had an affair. 633 00:31:16,647 --> 00:31:18,281 Confirming his suspicions 634 00:31:18,282 --> 00:31:21,351 that the daughter he'd raised as his own wasn't actually his. 635 00:31:21,352 --> 00:31:23,219 So he snaps hard. 636 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:24,687 He shoots Zoe in front of Mum, 637 00:31:24,688 --> 00:31:28,724 placing the love letters over Zoe's body to humiliate Jacquie, 638 00:31:28,725 --> 00:31:30,726 just like she humiliated him. 639 00:31:30,727 --> 00:31:32,028 The love letters I get, 640 00:31:32,029 --> 00:31:34,564 but why place Mom's opal necklace over Zoe? 641 00:31:34,565 --> 00:31:36,933 And why are there black opals at both of the crime scenes? 642 00:31:36,934 --> 00:31:40,070 Yo, got confirmation from Customs and Immigration 643 00:31:40,071 --> 00:31:42,238 regarding Nate's exit from the country after the murders. 644 00:31:42,239 --> 00:31:43,406 - And? - And he didn't hop 645 00:31:43,407 --> 00:31:45,041 a commercial flight back to L.A. 646 00:31:45,042 --> 00:31:46,376 How'd he get back, then? 647 00:31:46,377 --> 00:31:47,410 Turns out his brother, Tyler, 648 00:31:47,411 --> 00:31:49,279 was in the Navy back in the day too. 649 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,580 And that's important because... 650 00:31:50,581 --> 00:31:51,581 Because his brother 651 00:31:51,582 --> 00:31:53,484 was in Navy transport logistics. 652 00:31:56,287 --> 00:31:58,821 Yeah, I admit it. I called in some favors. 653 00:31:58,822 --> 00:32:00,723 So your brother wouldn't face charges? 654 00:32:00,724 --> 00:32:02,058 Charges he was innocent of. 655 00:32:02,059 --> 00:32:05,161 - And you knew that how? - Because he's my little brother. 656 00:32:05,162 --> 00:32:06,929 And I asked him straight up, 657 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:08,664 I told him I'd stand by him either way, 658 00:32:08,665 --> 00:32:10,266 but if I found out down the track 659 00:32:10,267 --> 00:32:12,303 he was lying to me, then I'd kick his ass. 660 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,475 I've been looking after Nate since he was in diapers, right? 661 00:32:19,476 --> 00:32:22,179 You think I don't know when my baby brother's lying to me? 662 00:32:24,248 --> 00:32:26,349 I made a promise to my dad on his deathbed 663 00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:28,151 I would look after Nate, all right? 664 00:32:28,152 --> 00:32:29,320 So that's what I did. 665 00:32:30,121 --> 00:32:32,655 And you figured that meant getting him out of Australia 666 00:32:32,656 --> 00:32:34,391 to avoid police charges? 667 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:39,429 Okay, if I could have my time over, I...I... 668 00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:41,497 ...I would let it go to trial, 669 00:32:41,498 --> 00:32:43,799 and his alibi would have come to light, 670 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,935 there would have been no podcast, 671 00:32:45,936 --> 00:32:50,374 and Nate might still be alive. 672 00:32:52,476 --> 00:32:53,943 But... 673 00:32:59,883 --> 00:33:01,784 So looking into Zoe's biological dad means 674 00:33:01,785 --> 00:33:03,553 I gotta go back 26 years, 675 00:33:03,554 --> 00:33:05,888 figure out what Mum was doing way back when. 676 00:33:05,889 --> 00:33:09,160 Turns out she was a regional flight attendant. 677 00:33:11,295 --> 00:33:12,628 And one of her regular routes 678 00:33:12,629 --> 00:33:13,796 was to Lightning Ridge, 679 00:33:13,797 --> 00:33:16,332 which happens to be Australia's opal capital, 680 00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:18,000 famous for black opal. 681 00:33:18,001 --> 00:33:20,002 And who said you don't do the daily groundwork? 682 00:33:20,003 --> 00:33:23,707 You, mostly, while I'm making you look good. 683 00:33:24,541 --> 00:33:26,076 What have you got? 684 00:33:26,077 --> 00:33:27,743 Passenger manifests from every one 685 00:33:27,744 --> 00:33:29,512 of Jacquie's flights back in the day. 686 00:33:29,513 --> 00:33:31,314 I'm trying to work out which were opal miners 687 00:33:31,315 --> 00:33:34,885 and linking them to any big finds of black opal. 688 00:33:35,719 --> 00:33:37,053 If Jacquie had an affair, 689 00:33:37,054 --> 00:33:39,389 it was likely with one of those miners. 690 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:42,825 Sure. Or... 691 00:33:42,826 --> 00:33:45,329 ...we could just ask the jeweler who set both opals. 692 00:33:48,665 --> 00:33:52,068 I remember this stone. One of two for the same client. 693 00:33:52,069 --> 00:33:53,069 Two stones? 694 00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:55,405 The first one, 20-some years ago, 695 00:33:55,406 --> 00:33:57,307 the second one, maybe five years back. 696 00:33:57,308 --> 00:33:59,675 Mm. You still got the client's details? 697 00:33:59,676 --> 00:34:01,245 Oh, I should do. 698 00:34:02,546 --> 00:34:05,381 So let's assume the first opal is a gift for Jacquie. 699 00:34:05,382 --> 00:34:07,083 And the second one's for Zoe. 700 00:34:07,084 --> 00:34:09,585 Maybe. But why the delay? 701 00:34:09,586 --> 00:34:10,753 Dunno. 702 00:34:10,754 --> 00:34:12,622 Maybe he just found out he was a dad. 703 00:34:12,623 --> 00:34:15,292 Got the second opal set for the daughter he didn't know he had. 704 00:34:16,093 --> 00:34:18,495 I found the original invoices. 705 00:34:25,402 --> 00:34:29,240 Damn. Didn't see that coming. 706 00:34:31,608 --> 00:34:32,742 What have you got, Blue? 707 00:34:32,743 --> 00:34:35,845 - Worms? - Nope, better. Excitement. 708 00:34:35,846 --> 00:34:37,913 Ballistics came through the lab on Rasmussen's rifle 709 00:34:37,914 --> 00:34:39,014 with a positive match. 710 00:34:39,015 --> 00:34:40,216 We certain about that? 711 00:34:40,217 --> 00:34:41,417 According to Team Bang-Bang, 712 00:34:41,418 --> 00:34:43,719 the firing pin indent and extractor claw marks 713 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:44,920 match his rifle. 714 00:34:50,594 --> 00:34:52,395 People come up to me all the time. 715 00:34:52,396 --> 00:34:56,533 They talk to me about needing to move on after Helen. 716 00:34:57,968 --> 00:35:00,136 "It's been years, mate," they say. 717 00:35:00,137 --> 00:35:02,373 "Time to let her go." 718 00:35:03,140 --> 00:35:05,508 Bit rich if you've never been there. 719 00:35:05,509 --> 00:35:08,212 Hear, hear. 720 00:35:08,979 --> 00:35:10,547 Uh, let's take a five-minute break. 721 00:35:13,817 --> 00:35:14,850 What are you doing here? 722 00:35:14,851 --> 00:35:17,420 We ran a ballistics check on your gun. 723 00:35:17,421 --> 00:35:19,255 Came back positive for the weapon used 724 00:35:19,256 --> 00:35:20,823 to kill Nate Holbrook. 725 00:35:20,824 --> 00:35:22,725 I don't understand. 726 00:35:22,726 --> 00:35:23,959 Yeah, we know. 727 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,197 Hey, mate. White with two, just how you like it. 728 00:35:27,198 --> 00:35:29,999 Hi. I'm Luka. Welcome to the group. 729 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,434 Jim Dempsey, AFP. 730 00:35:31,435 --> 00:35:33,603 Special Agent Michelle Mackey, NCIS. 731 00:35:33,604 --> 00:35:35,271 We were just talking to your friend Freddy 732 00:35:35,272 --> 00:35:36,439 about the murder of Nate Holbrook. 733 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Yeah, his rifle's a ballistics match 734 00:35:37,641 --> 00:35:39,342 to the gun the killer used. 735 00:35:39,343 --> 00:35:41,678 We're gonna need to take Freddy down to the station with us. 736 00:35:43,647 --> 00:35:45,448 Unless, of course, there's something else 737 00:35:45,449 --> 00:35:47,184 you want to tell us, Luka. 738 00:35:50,187 --> 00:35:52,988 Sorry, Freddy, this wasn't supposed to come back to you. 739 00:35:55,158 --> 00:35:56,626 I don't understand. 740 00:35:56,627 --> 00:35:59,329 I used my master key to access your rifle 741 00:35:59,330 --> 00:36:00,797 in the lock-up at the club. 742 00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:05,035 Wait. 743 00:36:06,237 --> 00:36:07,837 You shot Nate Holbrook? 744 00:36:07,838 --> 00:36:09,373 He killed my kid. 745 00:36:10,507 --> 00:36:12,142 What was I gonna do? 746 00:36:20,183 --> 00:36:21,352 Freddy! 747 00:36:26,557 --> 00:36:28,758 Talk to me about the opal necklace. 748 00:36:28,759 --> 00:36:31,060 It was from the same seam of black opal 749 00:36:31,061 --> 00:36:34,664 that I discovered on the day I met Jacquie. 750 00:36:34,665 --> 00:36:36,366 Why leave it at the crime scene? 751 00:36:36,367 --> 00:36:38,033 What's the significance for Zoe? 752 00:36:38,034 --> 00:36:40,703 I couldn't have a relationship with her mum, 753 00:36:40,704 --> 00:36:42,105 so I thought... 754 00:36:43,707 --> 00:36:45,976 ...maybe I could connect with her. 755 00:36:47,744 --> 00:36:51,648 We arranged to meet face-to-face at the botanic gardens. 756 00:36:53,784 --> 00:36:55,619 She never showed. 757 00:36:57,821 --> 00:37:00,256 Her Navy boyfriend made sure of that. 758 00:37:00,257 --> 00:37:02,293 Nate didn't kill Zoe. 759 00:37:05,095 --> 00:37:07,531 What are you... What are you talking about? 760 00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:11,401 Course he did. 761 00:37:11,402 --> 00:37:12,768 There was... 762 00:37:12,769 --> 00:37:13,869 ...evidence. 763 00:37:13,870 --> 00:37:16,172 It was an open-and-shut case. It... 764 00:37:17,541 --> 00:37:20,310 There was no one else in the house that day. 765 00:37:20,311 --> 00:37:21,777 The cops were all over it. 766 00:37:21,778 --> 00:37:25,615 The police made some critical errors in their investigation. 767 00:37:25,616 --> 00:37:27,417 It was a murder-suicide. 768 00:37:27,418 --> 00:37:29,151 Brandon killed Zoe. 769 00:37:29,152 --> 00:37:31,121 Then he killed Jacquie, and then... 770 00:37:32,456 --> 00:37:33,857 ...himself. 771 00:37:35,191 --> 00:37:36,527 Over these. 772 00:37:41,298 --> 00:37:43,799 Your love letters to Jacquie. 773 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,568 You quote the Beach Boys. 774 00:37:45,569 --> 00:37:47,637 That's how we knew they weren't for Zoe. 775 00:37:47,638 --> 00:37:49,340 The Beach Boys. 776 00:37:51,842 --> 00:37:55,611 That's what was playing on the night we first met. 777 00:37:58,715 --> 00:38:03,219 She was standing there in her hostess uniform, by the jukebox. 778 00:38:05,822 --> 00:38:07,524 I asked her to dance. 779 00:38:08,359 --> 00:38:12,463 I'd just discovered the mother lode of black opal. 780 00:38:14,097 --> 00:38:16,232 A seam as long as my arm. 781 00:38:19,302 --> 00:38:22,339 I was 24 and rich beyond my wildest dreams. 782 00:38:24,475 --> 00:38:26,343 Suddenly, I couldn't care less. 783 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:29,979 I didn't know it at the time, 784 00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:33,083 but that was the night we made Zoe. 785 00:38:44,695 --> 00:38:46,596 What have I done? 786 00:38:51,868 --> 00:38:54,737 We've actually decided to get him cremated here. 787 00:38:54,738 --> 00:38:57,641 Nate always loved the Australian bush. 788 00:38:58,709 --> 00:39:01,677 Well, there's no shortage of that around here. I mean... 789 00:39:01,678 --> 00:39:04,079 Blue Mountains would be my pick. 790 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,215 Megalong Valley, something like that. 791 00:39:06,216 --> 00:39:08,183 - Mega-long? - Ha. 792 00:39:08,184 --> 00:39:09,852 Okay, I'll bear that in mind. 793 00:39:09,853 --> 00:39:12,622 There's a lookout where you get to watch the sun go down 794 00:39:12,623 --> 00:39:13,889 over two valleys. 795 00:39:14,958 --> 00:39:17,561 It makes you feel small, but in a good way. 796 00:39:20,431 --> 00:39:24,468 Don't suppose you'd... want to come along? 797 00:39:26,102 --> 00:39:29,238 Well, the place I'm talking about 798 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,640 can be tricky to find, 799 00:39:30,641 --> 00:39:32,809 and I wouldn't want you getting lost out there. 800 00:39:39,683 --> 00:39:40,851 Tire iron. 801 00:39:41,685 --> 00:39:44,286 Similar to the one Nate used to change a flat tire. 802 00:39:44,287 --> 00:39:47,056 You're not still going on about the missing jack, are you? 803 00:39:47,057 --> 00:39:48,724 There was no one there to corroborate it. 804 00:39:48,725 --> 00:39:50,893 I deal in facts, Agent Mackey. 805 00:39:50,894 --> 00:39:53,496 Fact, he had the victim's blood on his clothes. 806 00:39:53,497 --> 00:39:55,197 Fact, fingerprints on the murder weapon. 807 00:39:55,198 --> 00:39:57,867 Fact, gunshot residue all over his hands. 808 00:39:57,868 --> 00:40:01,438 And all over yours right now. 809 00:40:02,773 --> 00:40:05,240 All that black powder on the tire rim, 810 00:40:05,241 --> 00:40:06,742 that's brake pad dust. 811 00:40:06,743 --> 00:40:09,745 When Nate changed the tire, he got it all over him. 812 00:40:09,746 --> 00:40:11,581 No, the police analyzed it. It was... 813 00:40:11,582 --> 00:40:16,953 Barium, the main ingredient in gunpowder and brake pad dust. 814 00:40:17,754 --> 00:40:19,388 Well, the police should have picked that up. 815 00:40:19,389 --> 00:40:21,090 Maybe you should have too. 816 00:40:21,091 --> 00:40:22,558 Might be an episode in that. 817 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,461 Yeah. 818 00:40:31,468 --> 00:40:32,935 Hoo-hoo-hoo! 819 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,407 Bull's-eye! 820 00:40:38,408 --> 00:40:41,377 Oh, bull's-eye, my arse! 821 00:40:42,145 --> 00:40:44,113 Off like old salami, mate. 822 00:40:44,114 --> 00:40:46,749 Fine. Show me what you got, girl. 823 00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:49,219 Oh, okay. 824 00:40:54,157 --> 00:40:57,126 Is there a cross-draft in here? You feel that? 825 00:40:57,127 --> 00:40:58,728 Uh-huh. 826 00:40:58,729 --> 00:41:01,030 Come on, guys, wrap it up. We're closed. 827 00:41:01,031 --> 00:41:03,499 We just need a couple more minutes to finish this off. 828 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:04,534 Thank you. 829 00:41:06,302 --> 00:41:10,940 Next closest to the center is the champion of the world. 830 00:41:10,941 --> 00:41:12,475 You're on. 57918

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