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Episode three was... Oh, my God.
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As a fan I thought, "Wow."
As a DP, I thought, "Fuck."
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If you take Hardhome
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and you take Bob,
and to take the lake,
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and you add them together,
add a five-by-four,
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you have episode three.
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We had 11 weeks of night shooting,
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so that was quite a feat
for any crew to go through.
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We knew this episode
was gonna be almost entirely battle.
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It's well over an hour
and it's mostly action.
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And part of what we cared
about a lot here
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was getting Miguel on board
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and forcing him to shoot
55 straight nights.
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I never ever want to do that again.
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I don't think anybody who did
that ever wants to do it again.
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Yeah, that was tough.
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And I don't think
it was something
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that anybody really realized
just how hard it was gonna be.
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"The Long Night."
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When I was doing it,
it was minus 14.
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Just chilling. Minus 14.
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In a field.
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You know, it's too cold to snow.
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When it's too cold to snow,
you know you got trouble.
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Chris and the rest of
the team, they were there day in, day out.
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We would start your evening
at six o'clock at night,
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and then you'd go home
at five o'clock in the morning
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and it just... That's brutal.
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Your body never acclimates
to that 100 percent.
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By, like, week three, they...
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people looked
slightly haunted.
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The cast, stunts,
background, crew,
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everybody just looked like,
this is...
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This is, like, getting into us.
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This is, like,
getting into our spirits.
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I... I'm not gonna lie, it was horrible.
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We enjoyed the work
and I said to my guys,
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"You know, you might not
want to do it again,
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but you won't regret
doing it the first time,
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because the product,
what you've achieved, is amazing."
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I think the crew,
they enjoyed the...
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The result is, you know,
you didn't do all this and think,
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"That's not really impressive."
There's no doubt about it.
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It's really
an impressive sequence.
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And I think the nights are just one of
the things we're gonna get through this.
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It's just another notch
in the belt
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of the crew on Game of Thrones that they'd
done things that feel quite unique.
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I'm proud of everyone.
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I'm proud of the work
that was put in.
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I think it was a mammoth task
that we were faced with.
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And we did it,
and it just feels incredible.
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That first week
after night shoots,
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seeing the crew, like,
smiling at the sun.
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What they went through
was pretty stunning,
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and, look, it's not...
You know,
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there's no special prize for being the
toughest crew, but there probably should be.
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Working in the pitch
dark in the rain, in the mud,
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it's a real testament
to the entire Belfast crew,
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who... gave us something that no
amount of money could ever buy.
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The task that we had, which was
the primary task on three,
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was how do we keep this
interesting?
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'Cause simply,
battle fatigue, you know.
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You just get bored,
you get exhausted.
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We really wanted to make sure
we were telling
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a coherent story with the whole
thing and not just having...
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battle-beat, battle-beat,
battle-beat.
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There needs to be a shape to it
and a propulsion to it.
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It became clear when we started planning it,
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that the battle was gonna be
a series of concentric circles.
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It would be
walls of defenses failing,
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and the dead getting closer
and closer to the center,
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into the heart of Winterfell
and taking over everything.
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The way that I concepted
episode three visually,
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was to create a color scheme that
developed throughout the whole episode.
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So, it starts with
a moonlit night...
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because the Night King brings
the storm and the clouds.
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The moon becomes dissipated
and the moonlight takes over,
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but in a very diffused
kind of way.
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And then the next stage would be
the trench going up.
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We wanted the trench to be
this overpowering light.
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And in prep for a long time,
Miguel always mentioned hell to me.
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It's turning into Hell
for each character.
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So the blood-red fire of the
trench takes over the image and...
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completely drains out the blue
of the moon until the end,
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because the trench
is dying down.
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The moonlight suddenly
gets introduced again.
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So that was kind of the way
for me to...
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To break it up into sections.
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So,
you have something that's visually different,
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so it's refreshing
in that respect.
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But how do we take it
one step further?
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So, what we decided was to
give each act a genre.
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So,
basically Act I is suspense and it's buildup.
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And the best way to do
buildup is...
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In any sort of
kinda monster movie,
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which is what this is,
is to not see the monster.
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Act II is actually,
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from the moment that Arya
is on the back foot
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and enters into the castle,
that's the horror movie.
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And then Act III
is an action movie.
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And so,
by breaking it into genres,
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it allowed us to change rhythm
and go off on tangents
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when we followed
specific characters
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for a longer period of time
rather than worried about
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what was happening
to everyone else.
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The core of it is the people you care about.
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You wanna care about
the people fighting,
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so every effort is made
to make sure that
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you center that conflicts
around the people you know.
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So, whether
it's Arya's storyline,
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or Sansa and Tyrion
down in the crypt,
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or Jon Snow and Dany
up on the dragons,
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it's kinda like all these separate little
battles within the greater battle.
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Light the trench!
Light the trench!
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Ah, fuck!
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Sorry, I'm really sorry.
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The living do have some
time to prepare for this battle.
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And one of the things they know
going into it
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is that they're gonna be
outnumbered,
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and another thing they know
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is that the wights
don't like fire.
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So, they dig a massive trench around the
entire castle, and fill it with kindling.
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To read the word "trench"
on the page doesn't sound like anything,
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but it took such a lot of work
to try and resolve it to a point
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that it was a convincing method
of defense.
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It was important
that this trench
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not be something that anybody
could jump over.
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So, we needed to construct
these bridges
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that would then collapse
and create another barrier.
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The trench had
real wooden spikes,
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real wooden logs lining
throughout the trench.
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Then the real logs were replaced
by steel logs
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that could burn
over a number of weeks
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without burning away.
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We had to accommodate
a whole special effects rig.
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So, the considerations
are enormous.
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Then, yeah, the trench
sort of encompasses...
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pretty much the whole
of the castle.
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As trenches go, it was a good trench.
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And I've done some trenches.
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Light the trenches!
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And then the reality
of how do we light a...
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nine-hundred foot-long thing
full of bitumen,
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with hundreds of people
running at it
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and stunt people in it.
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Oh, I mean...
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So...
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The complicated process
of the trenches began
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with the concept of it
being a first line of defense.
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Therefore, it had to be impressive,
it had to be very big.
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So, we had to devise a way
we could produce a flame
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which is big enough
for the outside environment.
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So we came up with a system,
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which is just a simple
water trough.
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It makes the most economical
flame out of propane.
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And then, of course, you've got to
think about the consumable part of it.
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You can't have real logs in there,
it has to be a steel thing.
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It has to be able to endure
the heat and the fire.
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I think we did 900 steel logs,
and we did 16 steel troughs.
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And then you have to work out how you
get that amount of gas to each trough.
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We've got one four-ton tanker
with a mobile unit,
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which is five ton.
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So, with the combination
of the two,
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we convert liquid
into the gas,
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and that's what gives us
our gas of life.
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We run it off an electronic
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valve system that's
tied in with a firing box.
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And each one is ignited by an
individual gas bank in a sequence.
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It uses a lot of gas.
A lot of gas.
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- Got your gas bill yet?
- Haven't got my gas bill. Dreading that one.
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When you see the Red Priestess
come out and light that trench,
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that that would be such an
extraordinary moment,
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as it just...
...lights around Winterfell.
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In terms of imagery, I always thought
that was such a fantastic thing.
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So, you really were seeing for the
first time the ice and fire meeting.
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So, that was something that I thought
was a really lovely image to establish.
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I got a call from Miguel,
like, a year before we started shooting.
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Basically, he was like,
"I can't tell you anything
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but get your endurance up now,
I want you to be training.
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You have a lot to do.
It's gonna be night shoots.
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We're gonna do three months
of night shoots."
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And I was just like, "Okay!"
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Like, I think I was in Boston
at the time,
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like, eating cheese fries,
like, "Cool!"
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Her entire fight through
the battlements
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was just a real great moment,
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and everything that I have learned
really did come down to that
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and I did use every sort of skill
that I'd learned in that fight.
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It's one thing to go on the battlements,
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but then over the top
of Winterfell,
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you've got these two staircases that go
up to the middle section of castellation.
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So, we thought it would be
really claustrophobic
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and dark and scary to be
in there with wights,
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but that's when the full staff
doesn't really work.
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We all know these tunnels
are very small
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and the last thing you want
is a five-and-a-half
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or a six-foot quarter staff going
through small, little alleyways.
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So, what I decided to do
on this one,
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be able to cut it in half
so it'd be able to disassemble
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within the fight sequence,
and then have two,
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so she could use both in each hand.
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Which is great, and it gave
Arya then the stunts,
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something else to play with
and to train with.
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Yeah, 'cause if I concentrate
on doing the move,
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one of them does it,
and then the other one doesn't.
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And it's like...
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One of the incredible things about
Maisie is that she's a righty.
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Because Arya in the books
is left-handed,
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she decided she was gonna learn
how to fight left-handed.
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So, in season one,
when she's training with Syrio Forel,
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she's training
with her left hand
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and it was incredibly challenging,
but what it does mean was that
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she's learned how to fight left-handed
and she's actually right-handed,
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so she's become
an ambidextrous fighter.
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Maisie does almost
all of this stuff on her own.
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She has an excellent stuntwoman
for the dangerous stuff,
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but most of it is actually
Maisie.
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Her coordination and she's really quick.
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You know, can make changes
on the spot and it actually...
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She's really easy to work with.
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It's one thing practicing
a fight,
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which is like a spar,
a sparring fight, you know.
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But then when you're actually
fighting for your life...
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...with loads of stuntmen
who, like, do this day-to-day
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and are not scared of anything,
and they're covered in this crazy makeup
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and they're coming at you
like...
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It's just a completely
different ballgame.
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And I think I probably hold the
record for the most apologies on set.
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Fucking hell! I'm so sorry.
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Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!
Fuck! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry!
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Sorry, guys!
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They're fine,
they got pads on.
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We knew any situation where
lots of people are fighting,
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Arya needs to play
a central role
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'cause she's
one of the best at it.
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That's amazing,
and it's a lot of fun to watch,
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but it's also... It's one note
and to try to play that note
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through the whole episode, it wouldn't
have worked. So, having her wounded,
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and having her almost taken out
of commission
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and almost rewinding the clock on who Arya
Stark is, would really be interesting.
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It would also give us a chance to change up
the nature of the story we were telling.
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The library sequence was
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I need to have a marked shift,
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where the audience, instead
of coming back and going,
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"And more battle,"
they come back and they go, "Oh.
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Change in style."
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Hopefully, what it does is it refreshes
the audience, and they're like, you know,
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"We wanna know what's going on
outside, but we're okay
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to be inside for a minute
and slow things down.
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And we're also okay to be
with Arya," who's suddenly,
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from being this incredibly
confident character
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that she's been now
for quite some time,
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is completely traumatized
by what's happened to her.
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One of the things we did
when we shot that sequence is
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we designed the library in a certain way,
and then I took Maisie in there,
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and I got nine wights
or something in there,
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and I gave them all a path
and then I told her
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she had to make her way
through it without being seen.
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And we figured out
this whole choreographed piece
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where everything was a near miss and
everything was just about not seeing her,
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and everything had to be silent.
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And it was really fun to do.
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Oh, my God, that was so scary.
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So the hero wights
in the library.
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Miguel, he was after somebody
who could get themselves
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into quite
an interesting position,
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but have the physique which
would be a little bit unworldly,
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which would suggest
they're dead basically.
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I knew of this performer,
Spanish performer,
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called Javier Botet,
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and he's double, triple jointed. He can do
the most ridiculous things with his body,
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and he's been covered
in prosthetics
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pretty much all his career,
so I knew he was the guy
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that could pretty much sell it
for us.
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And from a prosthetics
point of view,
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he's got a couple of little bits
and pieces.
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He's got some little cheek bone
appliances.
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We got a few little scrapes
and wounds, and then we just did
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this sort of airbrushed
body painting on him as well,
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and just really accentuated
all his sort of shadows
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and all his muscles
and his bone structure
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and his movement just sold it
for us.
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We're all in love
with Lyanna Mormont.
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I think the whole world is,
so we wanted this to be
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her absolute heroic moment.
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Oh,
when I found out I was dying,
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it was, like,
it was the best thing, really.
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It sounds strange,
but I either decided I'd be happy
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if I ended up on the throne,
which I thought was very, very unlikely,
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or I had a great death,
so I'm very happy.
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And the whole giant thing,
that's just really cool.
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Bang.
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All the shots
with Lyanna and Krum...
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were all really
pretty complicated,
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and they all had lots of pieces
to them.
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So, it started out at tomb,
where we shot the Winterfell set,
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and we shot a lot of
the backgrounds for the shots,
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and where we wanted to frame
for the giant,
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we used this technology
called INCAM,
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and this allowed us to playback
sort of an animation
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of what the giant's performance would
be that was synced to the camera.
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And so that when Sean Savage,
who's the A camera operator,
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is operating on the day,
he can actually see the giant
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at its proper scale in the set.
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So, they were able to operate it
as if it was a real thing.
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We got it.
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Yeah, that better, boys.
Let's move that out.
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The giant is real.
He could be 3D,
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but we prefer to shoot real, organic
live photograph people wherever we can.
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Our giant performer, Ian White,
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who's seven-foot five,
I believe,
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he performed all the actions
of the giant
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in front of green screen,
but we shot him in a way
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to double his scale.
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For the shots where he had
to pick up Lyanna,
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we put tracking markers on
a green doll that he picked up,
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and we motion captured that
and would use it to drive
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a robotic arm, basically,
to pick up our actress, Bella,
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and that would move her around
as if she's being held by Krum.
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You know,
for some of those shots,
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there's at least four or five
elements that we photographed
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at different times that will all
go into making that final shot.
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Really, it's just bringing
the lowest techs,
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miniature props approach,
and the very highest tech,
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digital scaling
and digital handoffs.
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Yeah, I think it's
very fitting for Lyanna to die,
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like, doing something like that,
stabbing a giant in the eye.
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It's a bit like...
I realized today,
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it's a bit
like David and Goliath.
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The same sort of thing...
that just a stab in eye kills him.
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With this little Lyanna Mormont.
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Down in the crypt
becomes just a complete horror movie.
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It's terrifying down there.
We're in a crypt.
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Nobody thought of that.
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He's bringing all
the dead people back to life.
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And they've put women
and children in a crypt
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with all the dead people,
so...
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Tyrion is smart,
but I guess not that smart.
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Yeah, the whole
action was really fun,
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'cause I never get to do
any action.
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In between setups, Peter and I
would be joking around,
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like, with our guns, like,
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running between podium to podium
trying to catch a wight.
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We felt like action stars,
even though
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we're probably
around, like, five meters.
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With the wights in the crypt,
for us, that was exciting,
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'cause we realized we could do
some really cool mummified,
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and dried husky sort of,
um, wights.
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We referenced ancient mummies.
We looked at corpses
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and there are some tombs which
have got these figures which are
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exactly the inspiration
we were looking for
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and they're these dried,
wizened bodies
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which still have dried
encrusted skin all over them.
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They still have hair, and they're
hundreds and hundreds of years old.
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They have their teeth.
Really, really dusty,
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and completely different
to what we'd seen before.
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There was one point
where I had to, like,
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run through a crowd of people,
and wights were coming out,
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and one came up to me,
and I actually started crying,
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I was so scared, like...
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Whenever I get scared,
I just cry and it was so awful.
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Those wights are horrible.
Just as scary in real life. I hate them.
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They're around
dark corners, and you're like...
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You don't fully know
where they're all coming from.
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I mean, everything's safe
and mapped out,
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but it's still...
You get into it.
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And you're just going
by candlelight,
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we don't have any other lighting
sources down there, really.
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It's creepy. It was fun.
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A week underground
with dead people.
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Think we're such nice people,
but, you know, we...
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It's just such violence
that we're portraying,
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and, uh, I've often said,
"How did we end up here?"
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I think the lesson
that we learned
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on Battle of the Bastards
was just how difficult it is
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to work with dead bodies,
to work with these prop bodies.
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How expensive it is,
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how difficult they are
to move around...
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so Rob Cameron and Gavin Jones,
our prop maker, came up
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with the idea of molding
these bodies into these disks.
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The brief was to try and create
a lightweight version of bodies
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as a sort of relief.
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We would get eight or nine
dummies dressed in their armor,
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and then we would make
a huge mold of that.
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So, our mold could capture
all of the detail,
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the limbs and the fabric
and the armor.
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We had, I think,
probably about 300 body piles,
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which we would've painted
up in different elements,
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you know, give them some skin tone,
give them a bit of a palette,
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and individually pull out
each body.
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And the good thing
about these, the weight of them,
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we can actually mound them up,
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so the prop boys came up
with this great idea of wedges
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and then building them up,
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so it's total carnage
and devastation, really.
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It looks great.
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I've got to say, they work
really, really, well.
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The prop guys
will never wanna see
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another one
of these disks again,
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because they spent a hell
of a lot of their time
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walking them around, moving them
from the right flank.
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Okay, now we've gotta dress
the left flank.
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So, all the bodies have to
move across to the left flank.
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Fucking hell!
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For close up stuff,
interspersed with that,
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would be live people
dressed as dead bodies.
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When you walk on set sometimes,
and they're about to shoot,
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suddenly one of them will twitch
or sort of move or something
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and it's like, "Oh, my God!"
because that's actually an extra
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who's been dressed
as a dead body.
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And will sort of be in there
amongst the ones we put in.
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Yeah, it's very disconcerting.
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It's a strange place to be.
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The last third of the movie
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where we move
into an action film,
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Jon realizes that the real task
still at hand
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is to, essentially,
protect Bran.
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- Bran!
- Go!
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And so, he heads into
Winterfell and we follow him on a journey.
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We've used Automus Maxima,
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it's a handheld device
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either the camera operator
or the grip can carry it,
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and then one
of the camera operators
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will operate it remotely.
You know, it's like...
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It's like a remote control
steady cam, really.
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It's very clever.
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The camera flows through
the castle,
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and stays with the character.
I think the audience
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is gonna feel like
they're traveling with them,
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and right up front with them.
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That was the real kind of heart
of, I think, that episode,
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is that long sequence with all
those different characters.
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We needed Jon to make
his way through the courtyard,
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and bear witness to all of the characters
that we know and we care about,
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that he knows and he cares
about, being overwhelmed.
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What we essentially did is
we took each group of people
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and gave them all a fight,
and they learn the fight,
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and we shot the fight,
and we use little pieces of it.
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They were all losing battles.
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I got to do,
like, a flippy move.
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Got to fling my spear,
like, around my head,
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I like doing that stuff.
A bit of flair.
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I loved,
loved, filming the sequence
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where we are really up
against it
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and it is overwhelming
for Brienne,
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and Brienne is in battle mode.
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It was really all-encompassing
that night.
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Being there was so intimidating
and so, you know,
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we were all really panicked
by how claustrophobic it was,
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and I think that really adds
to the work.
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One of my highlights
from that episode is standing
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on the pile of bodies
and fighting for my life.
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And the funny thing was that
we said to the stunt guys,
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if you manage to get me down,
take me down,
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so on some takes, I died...
...or Tormund died.
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I was really fighting
for my life.
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Kristofer's life.
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Strong arms, that.
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One of the shots
that I really love there
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is Jon looks over at his best...
Sees his best friend
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being attacked
by all these wights,
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and in any other circumstance,
Jon would, of course, rush over
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to try to help Samwell.
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It was great,
because it was this idea of...
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Sam being one person
Jon has always gone back for,
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has always relied on,
has always been his true friend,
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and he had to sacrifice him
to go after the Night King,
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and then it was finalized
with a moment where...
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00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:02,792
at some point, we just ran out
of stunt guys to throw at Sam,
470
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,333
and so he sat there, and he just
started crying and it was great,
471
00:26:09,041 --> 00:26:12,250
because it truly was crying
amidst all this violence.
472
00:26:12,333 --> 00:26:14,625
So seeing John do that
with Sam,
473
00:26:14,709 --> 00:26:16,059
I thought it was really,
really great.
474
00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:17,583
Again, he felt true
to the character.
475
00:26:17,667 --> 00:26:19,643
If you're involved
in a battle scene,
476
00:26:19,667 --> 00:26:21,667
you like to see yourself
as a fighter,
477
00:26:21,959 --> 00:26:24,291
and you like to make it look
as good as you possibly can,
478
00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:26,810
and Miguel was the one who has
to keep reigning me in and say,
479
00:26:26,834 --> 00:26:28,309
"Remember, you're playing
Samwell Tarly,
480
00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:30,458
and Samwell Tarly
is not a fighter."
481
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,417
The reason that Sam is in there
is because he's not a fighter,
482
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:39,125
and it's because he can show
how normal people would cope.
483
00:26:41,583 --> 00:26:43,500
So we had to
really dial him down
484
00:26:43,583 --> 00:26:45,583
and we just make it
in such a way
485
00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,291
that we wouldn't allow him
to be cool.
486
00:26:47,375 --> 00:26:49,417
We just put him
under so much pressure,
487
00:26:49,667 --> 00:26:51,583
which is not fair to him
as a person,
488
00:26:51,667 --> 00:26:54,083
because we could pr... We could
do it to everybody else too,
489
00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:58,125
but we just don't. We made Kit
look really cool. We do.
490
00:26:58,208 --> 00:26:59,750
You know, it's like...
All right,
491
00:27:00,041 --> 00:27:02,208
what can we do to make Kit
look cooler?
492
00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:10,643
So, one of the most
challenging shots
493
00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:13,291
was when we traveled through
the courtyard extensively
494
00:27:13,375 --> 00:27:16,500
and then we head down to what
we used to call the old kennels,
495
00:27:16,875 --> 00:27:19,333
and as he's running down
this very long, dark corridor,
496
00:27:19,709 --> 00:27:22,333
we had to coordinate
about 15 stuntmen
497
00:27:22,417 --> 00:27:24,083
dropping out of the roof
around him.
498
00:27:25,625 --> 00:27:28,166
They're obviously going
to arrive in a certain zone,
499
00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:30,208
certain moment, certain second.
500
00:27:30,458 --> 00:27:32,125
Which...
between the stunt guys and Kit,
501
00:27:32,208 --> 00:27:33,351
they had to
coordinate perfectly.
502
00:27:33,375 --> 00:27:34,726
...against the wall.
Now put it on his neck,
503
00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:35,875
and then drag it out.
504
00:27:35,959 --> 00:27:38,125
But take your time.
I wouldn't kill him...
505
00:27:38,542 --> 00:27:40,750
I wouldn't kill him
until you see the next guy.
506
00:27:43,291 --> 00:27:45,309
And everything was really
based around the idea of, like,
507
00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:47,166
how can we make it feel
as messy as possible?
508
00:27:49,959 --> 00:27:51,393
Well, then we had to
obviously put
509
00:27:51,417 --> 00:27:54,041
one of our stabilized
handheld rigs behind him,
510
00:27:54,583 --> 00:27:56,041
and still stay
really close to him
511
00:27:56,125 --> 00:27:58,000
to make the audience
feel that jeopardy,
512
00:27:58,083 --> 00:27:59,542
the danger
of what was happening.
513
00:28:00,417 --> 00:28:03,208
After we've choreographed it
and rehearsed it, what have you,
514
00:28:03,291 --> 00:28:05,917
and when we're shooting it,
my job is the safety of it
515
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,458
and making sure it all works.
516
00:28:07,542 --> 00:28:09,583
Then I'm queuing,
because, obviously,
517
00:28:09,875 --> 00:28:11,291
we all need to be in sync.
518
00:28:15,542 --> 00:28:16,667
- Now!
- Good!
519
00:28:16,917 --> 00:28:18,726
That was probably
one of the greatest challenges,
520
00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:20,393
just to be in the right time
and right place.
521
00:28:20,417 --> 00:28:23,417
And it had to be in, you know,
fractions of seconds to do it.
522
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:25,500
And the camera did
a 180 around him
523
00:28:25,583 --> 00:28:27,417
at one point
during all this chaos.
524
00:28:27,834 --> 00:28:30,500
Um... And we run backwards
at that point
525
00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:33,041
until the great big
steel door is...
526
00:28:33,291 --> 00:28:35,125
on... on railings is shot
527
00:28:35,208 --> 00:28:37,168
right in front of these guys
near the last second.
528
00:28:37,375 --> 00:28:39,458
And it feels like Jon Snow's
just got through there,
529
00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:42,375
as has just... the camera's
just got through as well.
530
00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:44,333
So, yeah. It's a very cool shot.
531
00:28:44,417 --> 00:28:46,750
Go, go, go, go, go!
532
00:28:46,834 --> 00:28:48,935
That's gotta be it.
533
00:28:48,959 --> 00:28:52,250
Just 'cause we fancy
making you do it again.
534
00:28:53,542 --> 00:28:56,041
But ultimately,
the key thing there
535
00:28:56,125 --> 00:28:59,667
was to give Kit
the fight of his life
536
00:29:00,083 --> 00:29:02,792
and then, at the end of it,
present him with
537
00:29:03,125 --> 00:29:06,667
a... insurmountable odd,
which is...
538
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:08,667
a dead dragon.
539
00:29:10,291 --> 00:29:11,917
Or an undead one.
Or not-dead.
540
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:19,750
The zombie dragon lands,
541
00:29:19,959 --> 00:29:24,208
having his face been torn off,
can't exactly see,
542
00:29:24,291 --> 00:29:30,041
smashes through the ravenry.
Just an insane fight where
543
00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:33,625
Jon is ducking
behind these pieces of set
544
00:29:33,709 --> 00:29:38,750
as this icy blue fire
is blasting over the top of him.
545
00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:41,834
But the fun thing is
that Viserion is so damaged
546
00:29:42,417 --> 00:29:45,250
by this point, he already has
a hole through his neck
547
00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:47,083
from being taken down
by the Night King.
548
00:29:47,166 --> 00:29:49,375
Now he's missing half his face,
so he's leaking.
549
00:29:49,458 --> 00:29:51,834
So, you know, this blue fire
550
00:29:51,917 --> 00:29:53,792
is kind of leaking
and shooting around.
551
00:29:54,458 --> 00:29:56,542
There's fire blasting
all over the place,
552
00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:59,875
which we shoot photographically,
for real,
553
00:30:00,125 --> 00:30:03,625
using
a 3D motion control camera,
554
00:30:03,875 --> 00:30:07,375
blasting fire
in a darkened stage.
555
00:30:07,709 --> 00:30:10,959
We actually did
laser cuts for Viserion
556
00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:13,625
from the digital model
of those openings.
557
00:30:13,875 --> 00:30:17,500
And then bronze casts were made
and then fitted
558
00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:20,041
by Sam Conway and his team
with fire jets.
559
00:30:20,834 --> 00:30:24,709
And then that was put onto
this robot with a quick arm
560
00:30:24,792 --> 00:30:27,333
so that the fire
would leak out of openings
561
00:30:27,417 --> 00:30:29,083
that were accurate
to the dragon.
562
00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:32,291
And there were so many
moving parts in this scene,
563
00:30:32,375 --> 00:30:35,917
because you've got
the environment he's living in,
564
00:30:36,041 --> 00:30:39,166
which is partially
the courtyard dressed
565
00:30:39,417 --> 00:30:41,000
and largely virtual
566
00:30:41,083 --> 00:30:44,250
because of the destruction
that's needed to be created.
567
00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:47,500
And there's shooting Kit
in the set piece,
568
00:30:47,583 --> 00:30:51,208
so that he's got something
to really duck behind
569
00:30:51,291 --> 00:30:54,291
and have interactive lighting
wrap around him.
570
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:57,250
Fire!
571
00:30:59,792 --> 00:31:02,208
We did a lot of
destruction in that courtyard.
572
00:31:02,291 --> 00:31:04,125
We like building things,
but equally,
573
00:31:04,208 --> 00:31:07,125
we like destroying things.
That's always quite fun.
574
00:31:07,333 --> 00:31:10,375
So we go at it
with flamethrowers, paint,
575
00:31:10,792 --> 00:31:13,417
earth, mud, you name it,
we just...
576
00:31:13,792 --> 00:31:16,917
take it in there and do whatever
it takes to destroy the thing.
577
00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:20,208
I asked for a load of wood
to be removed.
578
00:31:20,291 --> 00:31:21,834
We made a huge bonfire of it.
579
00:31:21,917 --> 00:31:23,375
We burned it for about a day
580
00:31:23,458 --> 00:31:27,083
until it's charcoaled,
it's almost destroyed.
581
00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:29,750
Then actually, we get something
rather beautiful.
582
00:31:29,834 --> 00:31:31,125
It's rather wonderful.
583
00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:37,625
Just when you think
that it's all over,
584
00:31:37,875 --> 00:31:41,291
just when you think that
Jon Snow's gonna be the hero,
585
00:31:41,583 --> 00:31:43,667
again, we realize...
586
00:31:43,959 --> 00:31:46,667
that Arya appears
through the mist.
587
00:31:56,959 --> 00:31:59,041
I mean, you're like,
"Ooh, maybe I'll get him!
588
00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:00,125
I'm not gonna get him."
589
00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:01,726
And then you're reading,
you're like, "Ooh,
590
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:02,917
maybe Jon's gonna get him!
591
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,583
Wait, he's not gonna..."
And I remember
592
00:32:04,667 --> 00:32:07,250
actually being like, "Whoa!"
593
00:32:07,333 --> 00:32:10,625
And kind of applauding in my head,
and you know, "Yeah!"
594
00:32:11,208 --> 00:32:12,768
And then in the read-through
when, like,
595
00:32:12,792 --> 00:32:15,041
when Maisie was doing it,
and we were all just like
596
00:32:15,125 --> 00:32:17,000
wooping and cheering.
597
00:32:17,250 --> 00:32:18,250
Yeah, it's amazing.
598
00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:19,933
I think Maisie
thought it was super cool.
599
00:32:20,166 --> 00:32:21,709
She's like, "Yeah,
I'm gonna kill him."
600
00:32:22,083 --> 00:32:25,458
Um... Kit
was really fine with it.
601
00:32:25,542 --> 00:32:26,583
I was pissed.
602
00:32:27,333 --> 00:32:29,142
I was pissed that it wasn't me
killing the Night King.
603
00:32:29,166 --> 00:32:31,667
I could've... I would've sw...
I would've given you, like...
604
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:33,917
I'd have bet you thousands.
605
00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:35,917
Before we read the finals,
I was like,
606
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,125
"Yeah, it's definitely me."
607
00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:40,375
And then they lead you on,
Jon's chasing the Night King.
608
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Jon Snow has always
been the hero,
609
00:32:43,709 --> 00:32:45,000
the one who's been the savior,
610
00:32:45,083 --> 00:32:49,250
but... it just didn't seem right
to us for this moment.
611
00:32:49,625 --> 00:32:51,810
It's probably three years now,
or something, we've known
612
00:32:51,834 --> 00:32:55,208
that it was gonna be Arya
who delivers that fatal blow.
613
00:32:55,458 --> 00:32:59,750
Dan and David let me break
all the Game of Thrones rules
614
00:32:59,834 --> 00:33:00,834
for that sequence.
615
00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:03,458
Majority of it is shot
96 frames a second,
616
00:33:03,959 --> 00:33:08,208
it's all super-slow motion,
it's all heightened reality,
617
00:33:08,417 --> 00:33:10,375
which is not what
they usually do.
618
00:33:10,667 --> 00:33:12,166
It's a surreal nightmare.
619
00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:15,375
Finally, the Night King and Bran
are finding each other.
620
00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:24,750
The music plays a big part
in creating
621
00:33:24,834 --> 00:33:28,041
that sense of despair that
should exist in that moment.
622
00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:29,834
And you're intercutting
with Jon,
623
00:33:29,917 --> 00:33:32,250
who's clearly
not going to make it.
624
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:34,667
And you're intercutting
with all our other characters,
625
00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:36,500
where they're just...
they're so fucked.
626
00:33:36,583 --> 00:33:37,583
Everybody's fucked.
627
00:33:38,083 --> 00:33:39,768
I mean, that was literally...
that was the phrase we kept using.
628
00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:41,917
It's like, "Let's do
the "it's fucked" shot."
629
00:33:42,250 --> 00:33:44,000
And then everyone
would shoot a shot
630
00:33:44,083 --> 00:33:45,685
where it just feels like
there's no escape.
631
00:33:45,709 --> 00:33:48,875
Everyone's going to die right now.
You know they're not,
632
00:33:48,959 --> 00:33:51,667
but we want you to feel
that same feeling
633
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,583
of, "Oh, my God. It's...
634
00:33:53,667 --> 00:33:56,500
We can't. What's the recovery?
How do we come back from this?"
635
00:33:56,583 --> 00:33:58,709
And we've all forgotten about,
you know,
636
00:33:58,792 --> 00:34:01,208
that little innocent girl
from all those years ago
637
00:34:01,291 --> 00:34:04,166
who's turned into a trained killer,
who's coming out of nowhere.
638
00:34:08,959 --> 00:34:11,166
'Cause essentially,
she does jump out of nowhere,
639
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:12,291
and that's a wire rig.
640
00:34:12,959 --> 00:34:15,875
It's a wire rig we did on the location,
but the location wasn't ideal.
641
00:34:15,959 --> 00:34:17,709
It was really hard
to get a crane in there,
642
00:34:17,792 --> 00:34:19,917
and we've obviously got
the weirwood tree.
643
00:34:20,834 --> 00:34:22,250
So it was tricky to do it there,
644
00:34:22,333 --> 00:34:25,333
and we did a version of it there,
but then we had to redo it
645
00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,667
because we didn't have the ability
to control it as much as we'd hoped.
646
00:34:29,125 --> 00:34:32,041
And it needed to be a real
"boom, out of nowhere" moment
647
00:34:32,125 --> 00:34:35,417
and a real... you know,
a locking together of these two characters.
648
00:34:39,583 --> 00:34:42,125
Shooting that was tedious,
but...
649
00:34:42,625 --> 00:34:47,291
so great to be able to perform
all these different beats
650
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:50,125
within maybe, like,
two seconds of footage.
651
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,135
We knew it had to be
Valyrian steel.
652
00:34:53,375 --> 00:34:55,834
To the exact spot where
the Child of the Forest
653
00:34:55,917 --> 00:34:58,667
put the dragonglass blade
to create the Night King.
654
00:34:59,333 --> 00:35:02,750
And that weapon has been one of
the totemic pieces for us,
655
00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:05,375
and ultimately, we've known
for a long, long time
656
00:35:05,458 --> 00:35:06,917
that was gonna
end the Night King.
657
00:35:07,709 --> 00:35:10,291
When Samwell's reading
the book about dragonglass
658
00:35:10,375 --> 00:35:12,417
there is a picture
of the dagger.
659
00:35:12,834 --> 00:35:15,709
The Targaryens used
dragonglass to decorate their weapons
660
00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:18,458
without even knowing
what the First Men used it for.
661
00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:21,792
It is very possible
that the same thing
662
00:35:21,875 --> 00:35:23,917
that created the Night King
663
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,250
is the thing that was necessary
to destroy the Night King,
664
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:28,917
or maybe it's Valyrian steel,
or...
665
00:35:29,542 --> 00:35:31,041
Figure it out for yourself.
666
00:35:31,291 --> 00:35:32,583
Not gonna say.
667
00:35:35,291 --> 00:35:36,531
I think that's such a...
668
00:35:36,625 --> 00:35:38,417
nice little full-circle thing
as well,
669
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,875
that that's the knife
that was destined to kill Bran,
670
00:35:40,959 --> 00:35:42,375
and here it is, saving him.
671
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:45,875
That's, like, an iconic moment.
672
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,250
You know, the fall of the dead.
673
00:35:48,458 --> 00:35:49,709
It's exactly what you need.
674
00:35:50,166 --> 00:35:52,583
Like, oh, yeah!
675
00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:54,750
She, like, takes him down!
676
00:35:54,834 --> 00:35:57,000
It's so good. It's so good.
677
00:35:57,375 --> 00:35:58,375
It's perfect.
678
00:35:58,709 --> 00:36:00,875
I think it's, uh,
it's an inspired move.
679
00:36:01,458 --> 00:36:05,041
Um... You've always been waiting
as to what purpose...
680
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:09,583
Arya's assassin skills
were gonna lead to.
681
00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:12,125
And it's for
the most important purpose.
682
00:36:12,667 --> 00:36:15,458
Reading what I get to achieve
683
00:36:15,792 --> 00:36:20,667
and Arya's whole purpose in this world
and everything she's trained for
684
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:23,250
comes down to this one episode.
685
00:36:23,583 --> 00:36:24,625
It's just amazing.
686
00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:28,250
And it's just... it's beautiful.
It's poetry.
687
00:36:28,667 --> 00:36:30,750
And I'm grateful that
it was me and not Kit.
688
00:37:00,041 --> 00:37:02,375
Think about Jorah.
From the first time we met him,
689
00:37:02,458 --> 00:37:04,041
he was with Dany, you know.
690
00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:05,643
And the first time you meet him
is at Dany's wedding,
691
00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:08,041
when he's giving her
the books of Westerosi history.
692
00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:11,166
And from that time, he's been
mostly by her side.
693
00:37:12,291 --> 00:37:13,917
If Jorah could have chosen
a way to die,
694
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,458
it would have been
protecting Dany.
695
00:37:17,792 --> 00:37:19,583
There was a lot
of input from Iain
696
00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:21,041
and from Emilia about
697
00:37:21,125 --> 00:37:23,709
making sure their characters
stayed true to who they were.
698
00:37:23,792 --> 00:37:26,583
Not having Jorah
lose sight of his goal,
699
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,709
which is protect his queen
at all costs.
700
00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:34,041
Emilia didn't want to be
completely damsel-in-distress.
701
00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:36,917
My hero.
702
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,500
She didn't feel
that her character
703
00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:41,223
would be like that.
But then, we didn't...
704
00:37:41,291 --> 00:37:43,333
we've never seen her
do anything in that vein,
705
00:37:43,417 --> 00:37:46,250
so we needed to make her
not look like
706
00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,917
she was completely ineffective
and disinterested
707
00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:51,500
in saving Jorah.
708
00:37:52,625 --> 00:37:54,184
And then you don't care
what happens to...
709
00:37:54,208 --> 00:37:56,834
No, that's why I'm trying
to play up the "Waaah."
710
00:37:57,083 --> 00:37:59,083
But also, this was
Iain's big moment.
711
00:38:00,875 --> 00:38:03,417
We realized that
all he ever wanted to do
712
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,083
was to serve her.
And all he ever wanted to do
713
00:38:06,166 --> 00:38:08,667
was to... was to fight
to protect her
714
00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:12,333
and there'd never been a moment
where she more needed
715
00:38:12,625 --> 00:38:15,500
someone to fight to protect her
than this moment.
716
00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:17,709
And Iain himself, I think, was...
717
00:38:17,875 --> 00:38:19,834
I think he was happy
to go down fighting,
718
00:38:19,917 --> 00:38:21,037
'cause he's very good at it.
719
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,041
My favorite scene to shoot
was my demise.
720
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:29,500
Yeah. Yeah.
721
00:38:29,542 --> 00:38:32,125
Just... just because
it required most of me.
722
00:38:32,208 --> 00:38:35,166
It was the most demanding
and the most fulfilling scene.
723
00:38:35,417 --> 00:38:39,959
And it felt the right conclusion
for Jorah's role.
724
00:38:40,041 --> 00:38:42,458
And being given a good setting,
725
00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:45,250
a very kind of dramatic
and telling setting.
726
00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:51,768
Incredible performance from Iain
727
00:38:51,792 --> 00:38:54,041
and also from Emilia
at the very end there
728
00:38:54,125 --> 00:38:56,333
as she's holding him
in her arms, and just that...
729
00:38:56,917 --> 00:38:59,500
you know, it's really hard
to fake that kind of...
730
00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:00,750
of pure grief.
731
00:39:00,917 --> 00:39:02,559
And Emilia just really
broadened those moments.
732
00:39:02,583 --> 00:39:04,792
I think part of it was 'cause
she's such a good actress,
733
00:39:04,875 --> 00:39:06,333
but I think part of it
is because
734
00:39:06,417 --> 00:39:07,810
she and Iain
had been working together
735
00:39:07,834 --> 00:39:10,125
for so, so long and have become
very, very close,
736
00:39:10,208 --> 00:39:12,166
and they've had
so many scenes together,
737
00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:13,726
and it's all coming to an end,
you know.
738
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:16,041
Both their characters'
relationship on the show,
739
00:39:16,125 --> 00:39:20,125
but also, our time together
working on the show.
740
00:39:22,083 --> 00:39:23,208
It was really hard.
741
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:27,417
You know,
I just had to look at Iain's...
742
00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:29,750
face, and it was like...
743
00:39:31,709 --> 00:39:35,208
it's all there, it's all... that's our
relationship, it's like, the whole...
744
00:39:35,834 --> 00:39:38,625
You know, we've been
with these characters
745
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,208
for so many years.
746
00:39:40,291 --> 00:39:43,125
We've been, like,
to hell and back with them.
747
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
It's been, uh, it's been...
748
00:39:48,208 --> 00:39:49,667
It's been quite a journey.
749
00:40:03,125 --> 00:40:04,250
Can't find the words.
750
00:40:04,667 --> 00:40:06,625
You know? It's just...
751
00:40:08,166 --> 00:40:10,125
great fun and, uh...
752
00:40:11,208 --> 00:40:12,000
yeah.
753
00:40:12,083 --> 00:40:16,458
I'm so really,
very, very chuffed
754
00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:20,667
to be a part of the whole
mad, wonderful thing of it all.
63248
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