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♪ ...not so self-assured ♪
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♪ Now I find I've changed my mind ♪
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♪ I've opened up the doors ♪
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♪ Help me if you can, I'm feeling down ♪
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♪ And I do appreciate you being 'round ♪
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♪ There are places I remember
all my life ♪
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♪ Though some have changed ♪
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♪ Some forever, not for better ♪
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♪ Some have gone and some remain ♪
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♪ All these places had their moments ♪
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♪ With lovers and friends
I still can recall ♪
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♪ Some are dead and some are living ♪
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♪ In my life I've loved them all ♪
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♪ But of all these friends and lovers ♪
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♪ There is no one compares with you ♪
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♪ And these memories lose their meaning ♪
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♪ When I think of love as something new ♪
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♪ Though I know
I'll never lose affection ♪
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♪ For people and things that went before ♪
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♪ I know I'll often stop
and think about them ♪
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♪ In my life I love you more ♪
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♪ Though I know
I'll never lose affection ♪
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♪ For people and things that went before ♪
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♪ I know I'll often stop
and think about them ♪
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♪ In my life I love you more ♪
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♪ In my life I love you more ♪
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-♪ Help! ♪
-♪ I need somebody ♪
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-♪ Help! ♪
-♪ Not just anybody ♪
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-♪ Help! ♪
-♪ You know I need someone ♪
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Help!
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Let's go back and get 'em, eh?
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-I'm game.
-Yeah, let's smash 'em.
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-Let's find that temple, eh?
-Right! To the temple.
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A man's got to do what he's got to do.
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I don't reckon
all this running away.
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Let's go back...
back, back, back...
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...back, back, back, back,
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back, back, back, back,
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back, back, back, back,
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back, back, back, back,
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back, back, back, back,
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back, back, back, back,
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back, back, back, back...
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♪ We'll meet again ♪
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♪ Don't know where, don't know when... ♪
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My mother used to say that, uh,
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because I was born,
the Second World War started.
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♪ Some sunny day... ♪
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I spent some time
with Mother up till about four,
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then me father split.
He was a merchant seaman,
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you know, you can imagine, and...
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and it was 1940s in the War, and all that.
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♪ ...always do... ♪
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♪ 'Til the blue skies drive
the dark clouds ♪
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♪ Far away... ♪
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My mum was a Catholic.
Dad was a Protestant.
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They got married quite late.
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I think they had me
when they were, like, 40,
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or something. It was quite sort of late.
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♪ ...be long ♪
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♪ They'll be happy to know ♪
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♪ That as you saw me go ♪
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♪ I was singing... ♪
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My father was driving
a bus at the time I was born,
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and I lived in a two-up
and two-down, 12 Arnold Grove.
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♪ Don't know where, don't know when ♪
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♪ But I know we'll meet again ♪
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♪ Some sunny day ♪
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We were all roughly the same age,
and we were like the first...
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...group of, uh, people
who didn't go in the Army.
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Halt!
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Me mum was a nurse.
She was a midwife as well.
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And my dad was a cotton salesman.
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I was raised by my auntie.
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Me father and me mother split
when I was about four.
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But I spent some time
with Mother up till about four.
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Then I was brought up by an auntie.
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Dad, uh, was a, uh...
he made cakes,
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so we always had sugar through the War.
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Mum? She ended up doing a lot of jobs
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'cause he left when I was three.
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He decided that was enough of that,
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and, uh, so she did any
down-home job she could get
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to feed and clothe me.
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My mother was, um,
from an Irish family
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called French,
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and, uh, she had lots
of brothers and sisters,
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uncles who had bald heads,
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who used to say they got their bald heads
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by knocking pub doors open!
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I was terrible at school
because I didn't spend much time there
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because I was also very sick as a kid.
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I had, uh, peritonitis
when I was six and a half,
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which just means burst appendix
and you're gonna die.
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And they said to my mother,
"He'll be dead" three times.
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But here we are. We're still here.
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My dad was a musician,
amateur musician,
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and, uh, he would play piano
around the house.
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We always had a piano.
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And I've got some lovely
childhood memories
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of sort of lying on the floor
and hearing him play.
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In those days,
they had those radios,
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like crystal sets.
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You used to have to take the battery
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down to some shop on the corner,
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and then leave it with them
for about three days
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to charge it up.
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Everybody has
their party piece in Liverpool.
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You have to sing a song.
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And, uh, my mother's was, uh...
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"Little Drummer Boy",
she would sing to me,
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and I would sing "Nobody's Child" to her,
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and she'd always cry.
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♪ I'm nobody's child... ♪ Mum.
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John really loved his mother,
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'cause she was great. I loved her, too.
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And she played a little ukulele.
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And then, unfortunately,
she was, uh, run over
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by an off-duty policeman
who was drunk at the time.
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My mum had died,
actually, at this point.
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My mum died when I was, uh, 14,
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which is, you know,
the big shock in my teenage years.
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She died of cancer.
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And John's mum having died,
this was always a very big bond
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between John and I.
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Rock and roll was real.
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Everything else was unreal.
To me, it got through.
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It was the only thing to get through to me
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out of all the things that were happening
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when I was 15, you know.
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♪ You women have heard of jalopies ♪
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♪ You've heard the noise they make ♪
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♪ Well, let me introduce
my new Rocket 88... ♪
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There was no such thing
as an English record, you know.
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I think the first English record
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that was anywhere near anything
was "Move It" by Cliff Richard,
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and before that, there'd been nothing.
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But the fact was
that there hadn't been a history
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of making that kind of music,
whereas there had in America.
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♪ You made me cry when you said goodbye ♪
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♪ Ain't that a shame... ♪
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You can't imagine a time
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when rock and roll
was only one of the musics.
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♪ No other love have I... ♪
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Whatever record was being played,
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you'd try and listen to it.
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You know, you couldn't even get
a cup of sugar,
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let alone a rock and roll record.
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So I went to art school.
I was at art school for five years.
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When I went... this is a sort
of college, you know.
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I went in there,
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they would only allow jazz
to be played, you know.
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They wouldn't allow rock and roll in.
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It was frowned upon those days.
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So we had to con them
into letting us play rock and roll
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there on the record player,
by calling it "blues", you know.
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♪ Well, that's all right, mama ♪
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♪ That's all right with you ♪
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♪ That's all right, mama ♪
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♪ Just any way you do ♪
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♪ That's all right... ♪
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I remember being in school
when I was a kid
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and, uh, somebody had a picture
in one of the musical papers,
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uh, of Elvis.
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And I just looked at it
and I just thought,
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"He's just so good looking!"
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He just looked perfect.
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When I was 16,
Elvis was what was happening.
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A guy with long, greasy hair,
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wiggling his ass,
and singing "Hound Dog" and, uh,
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"That's All Right, Mama"
on those early Sun Records,
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which I think are his great period.
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That's him!
That is the guru we have been waiting for.
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The Messiah has arrived.
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♪ You ain't nothin' but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Cryin' all the time ♪
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog, hound dog ♪
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♪ Cryin' all the time ♪
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♪ Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit ♪
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♪ You ain't no friend of mine ♪
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♪ Yes, it's me and I'm in love again ♪
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♪ Had no lovin' since you know when... ♪
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I was about 12 or 13
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when I first heard Fats Domino,
"I'm In Love Again".
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That was what I would call
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the first "rock and roll" record
I ever heard.
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And then later on, you know,
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Elvis, Little Richard and Buddy Holly.
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♪ I love you, Peggy Sue ♪
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♪ With a love so rare and true ♪
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♪ Oh Peggy, my Peggy Sue... ♪
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There were lots of people
coming up then,
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and one of them was Buddy Holly.
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We loved his vocal sound
and we loved his guitar playing.
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But most of all, I think, was the fact
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that he actually wrote the stuff himself.
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That's what turned us on.
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♪ Why... ♪
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We got to hear people
like Big Bill Broonzy.
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I think he might have even done
a tour of England.
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♪ ...just for these earthly things? ♪
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♪ Why did you lose your little halo? ♪
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♪ Baby, why'd you drop your wings? ♪
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I was a big fan of his...
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...and, actually, Frankie Laine.
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♪ If ever a pair of eyes
promised paradise ♪
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♪ Deceiving me, grieving me,
leaving me blue... ♪
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I was listening to a lot
of Country and Western then.
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Skiffle was coming through.
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You know, all those "train" songs
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and, uh, you know, "Rock Island Line",
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and all that stuff.
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♪ Well, the Rock Island Line
is a mighty good road ♪
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♪ Well, the Rock Island Line
is the road to ride ♪
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♪ Yeah, the Rock Island Line
is a mighty good road ♪
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♪ And if you want to ride it,
gotta ride it like you find it ♪
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♪ Get your ticket at the station
on the Rock Island Line... ♪
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I think the first music
I can remember hearing
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as guitar-oriented music...
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...was this record my dad brought
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from New York.
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Uh, it was a guy called Jimmie Rodgers,
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The Singing Brakeman.
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♪ T for Texas, T for Tennessee ♪
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♪ T for Thelma ♪
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♪ That gal that made
a wreck out of me... ♪
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I went to see, um,
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Rock Around The Clock in the Isle of Man.
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My grandparents took me there
after I came out of hospital.
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And it was just sensational
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because, um, they ripped up the cinema,
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and this was good for me to see.
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♪ When the chimes ring
five, six, and seven... ♪
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In those days, you know,
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they say "beggars can't be choosers",
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and we were just desperate.
You'd just get anything.
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Whatever film came,
you'd just try and see it.
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♪ ...gonna rock around
the clock tonight ♪
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♪ Goin' to the corner ♪
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♪ Pick up my sweetie pie ♪
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♪ She's my rock and roll baby,
she's the apple of my eye ♪
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♪ I'm ready... ♪
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So when
Girl Can't Help It came along,
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instead of us looking at these
old black-and-white movies,
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suddenly this was in color,
and this was in wide screen.
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And there's a famous bit at the mi...
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at the beginning of Girl Can't Help It,
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where Tom Ewell comes on
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and he sort of says, "Okay, now..."
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"Widescreen!"
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"Color!"
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Gorgeous lifelike color by DeLuxe.
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Sometimes you wonder
who's minding the store.
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And you cut to Jayne Mansfield.
And that's it. The game's over.
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♪ If she walks by,
the menfolks get engrossed ♪
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♪ She can't help it,
the girl can't help it ♪
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♪ If she winks an eye,
the bread slice turn to toast ♪
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♪ She can't help it,
the girl can't help it... ♪
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You know, you went to see those movies
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with Elvis or somebody in it
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when we were still in Liverpool...
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...and you'd see everybody
waiting to see him, right?
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And I'd be waiting there too.
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And they'd all scream
when he came on the screen.
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So we thought, "That's a good job!"
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♪ Ready, ready, ready to rock and roll ♪
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When I was a kid,
I was a fan of Elvis Presley,
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and Little Richard, and Chuck Berry.
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I was just interested in the music
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and how to do it. How can I do that?
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And I studied the records.
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What did they sing? How are they doing it?
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How do they make this music?
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What is it that they're doing
that excites me,
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that I wanna do it?
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When I was 16, I re-established
a relationship with me mother
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for about four years. She taught me music.
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She first of all taught me the banjo.
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And from that
I progressed to guitar. She...
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The first song I learnt
was "Ain't That A Shame",
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an old rock hit, Fats Domino.
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It was a joke in the family,
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a guitar's all right for a hobby,
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but it won't earn you any money.
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Me dad used to be a trumpet
player himself,
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and for my birthday
he once bought me a trumpet
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from Rushworth and Dreaper's.
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It was one of the music stores
in, uh, Liverpool.
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But I suddenly figured out
that I wouldn't be able to sing
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with this thing stuck in me mouth.
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So I went back to the shop
and traded it in for a guitar.
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So that was a Zenith.
First guitar I ever had.
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I think hearing a little bit
of guitar music,
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um, made me want a guitar.
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I used to be at the back
of the class, drawing,
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trying to draw guitars,
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big cello cutaway guitars with f-holes,
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and little solid ones
with pointy cutaways,
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and rounded cutaways.
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And, you know, I was totally into guitars.
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And I heard about this kid
who had a guitar
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and it was three pound ten.
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It was just a little acoustic,
round-hole type guitar.
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And I got the three pound ten
off my mother.
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That was a lot of money in those days.
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I used to look in shops and see drums.
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That's all I looked at.
I never looked at guitars, or anything.
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I bought a 30-bob bass drum, 30 shillings.
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Huge mother!
Just a huge one-sided bass drum.
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And in our area
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there used to be lots and lots of parties.
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You know, your uncle,
who would play banjo,
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or the harmonica.
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My grandparents played mandolin
and banjo...
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um... There was always
someone playing something.
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And so I would play my big drum
and drive 'em mad.
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But because I was a kid,
uh, they'd let me do it.
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George and I lived very near
each other in Liverpool
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so, in fact, we were just
a bus stop away from each other.
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I'd get on the bus,
and then the stop afterwards,
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George'd get on.
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So, being quite close in age,
we'd sit together
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and we'd talk about stuff, and that.
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So, I suppose I used
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to talk down to him a little bit.
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It might have been a failing of mine
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to tend to sort of talk down to him,
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'cause I'd known him as a younger kid.
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He was always
nine months older than I.
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Even now, he's still
nine months older than me.
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Paul and I used to just kind
of get together,
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played a bit, but it was...
we were just schoolboys then.
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There was no groups involved
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till a little bit later.
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-♪ Whaah! ♪
-♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Baby, now ♪
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♪ Shake it up, baby ♪
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♪ Twist and shout ♪
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♪ Twist and shout ♪
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♪ Come on, come on, come on,
come on, baby, now ♪
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♪ Come on, baby ♪
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♪ Come on and work it on out ♪
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♪ Work it on out ♪
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Paul met me
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the first day I did
"Be-Bop-A-Lula" live on stage,
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and a f... a mutual friend brought him
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to see my group called The Quarry Men.
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I had a mate at school
who was called Ivan.
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Ivan Vaughan.
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And we were born on exactly
the same day, in Liverpool,
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so we... we were great mates.
And, uh, one day he said,
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"Do you want to come
to the Woolton Village Fete?"
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So I said, "Yeah, all right."
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So we went along one Saturday afternoon.
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I remember coming into, uh, the field
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where they had the fete,
and just a bit over there,
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there was a wagon, uh,
and on the back of this...
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or a little stage or something, on...
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up on this stage there was
a few lads around.
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And there was one particular guy
I noticed at the front
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had a sort of checked shirt...
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...sort of blondish
kinda hair, a little bit curly,
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sideboards, looking pretty cool,
and he was playing,
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sort of, one of these guitars
guaranteed not to crack,
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you know, not a very good one. But, um...
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But he was making a very good job of it,
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you know, and I remember
being quite impressed.
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And he was doing a song by The Del-Vikings
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called "Come Go With Me".
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And the thing about it was,
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he obviously didn't know the words,
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but he was pulling in lyrics
from blues songs.
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So instead of going, uh...
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♪ Come little darlin',
come and go with me ♪
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which is right, he'd then go...
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♪ Down, down, down to the penitentiary ♪
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And he'd be doing sort of stuff
he'd heard on
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Big Bill Broonzy records, and stuff.
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So I thought, "That's clever. That's..."
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"He's... He's pretty good." That was John.
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And we met,
and we talked after the show.
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And... And I saw he had talent.
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And he was playing guitar backstage,
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and doing "Twenty Flight Rock"
by Eddie Cochran.
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♪ Ooh, well, I've got a girl
with a record machine ♪
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♪ When it comes to rockin'
she's the queen ♪
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♪ We love to dance on a Saturday night ♪
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♪ All alone
where I can hold her tight... ♪
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But the thing I think impressed
him the most was, um,
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I knew all the words.
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♪ So I walked one, two flight,
three flight, four ♪
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♪ Five, six, seven flight... ♪
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♪ Eight flight more ♪
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♪ Up on the 12th I'm startin' to drag ♪
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♪ 15 before I'm ready to sag ♪
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♪ Get to the top, I'm too tired to rock ♪
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♪ Well, called me up on the telephone ♪
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♪ Said, "Come on over, baby,
'cause I'm all alone" ♪
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♪ I said "Baby, you're mighty sweet" ♪
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♪ "But I'm in bed with achin' feet" ♪
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♪ This went on for a couple of days ♪
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♪ But I couldn't stay away ♪
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♪ So I walked one,
two flight, three flight, four ♪
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♪ Five, six, seven flight,
eight flight more ♪
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♪ Up on the 12th I'm startin' to sag ♪
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♪ 15 before I'm ready to drag ♪
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♪ I get to the top,
I'm too tired to rock ♪
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I was the singer and the leader.
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Well, I made the decision
whether to have him
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in the group or not.
Was it better to have a...
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a guy who was better
than the people I had in?
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Obviously. Or not?
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And that decision was to let Paul in,
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to make the group stronger.
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And I turned around
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to him right then
on first meeting and said,
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"Do you wanna join the group?"
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And I think he said yes the next day.
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Now, George came through Paul.
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I said,
"Well, I've got... I've got...
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I've got this friend who's...
who's really good, you know."
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And they said, "Well, yeah,
like, what?" you know.
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And I said, "Well, he can play
'Raunchy' perfectly."
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"Dow, dow, dow, daga-da, dahn."
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And we all loved that song.
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So we said, "Well,
gotta... gotta try him out."
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I remember we ended up
on the top deck of a bus, empty,
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late-night-bus kind of thing,
and just us there,
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and I just, "Go on, George,
get your guitar out. Go on."
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You show 'em, man." I thought, you know...
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And he got it out.
"Dow, dow..."
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Sure enough, note perfect.
"Raunchy". "You're in!"
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We were together much longer
than the public knew us.
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You know, it wasn't just from '64.
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I was 24 in '64,
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and I'd been playing with Paul
since I was 15,
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and he's very nice...
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...and...
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...and George about
a year later, or something.
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So it's a long time
we spent together in...
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in all the most
extraordinary circumstances.
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♪ Well, that'll be the day,
when you say goodbye ♪
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♪ Yeah, that'll be the day,
when you make me cry ♪
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♪ You say you're gonna leave,
you know it's a lie ♪
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♪ 'Cause that'll be the day
when I die... ♪
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The first thing we ever recorded
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was "That'll Be The Day",
a Buddy Holly song,
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and one of Paul's, called, uh,
"In Spite Of All The Danger".
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And somewhere, it might be around,
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it's in Liverpool somewhere, that record,
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that's the actual
first recording we ever made.
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I think it was starting
to dawn on us
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that it would be a good idea, if we could,
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to write our own stuff,
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'cause there were so many people
doing cover versions.
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And then I sang
"In Spite Of All The Danger",
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which is a little self-penned thing
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which was very influenced by Elvis.
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♪ In spite of all the danger ♪
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♪ In spite of all that may be ♪
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♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah ♪
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♪ I'll do anything for you ♪
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♪ Anything you want me to ♪
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-♪ If you'll be true to me ♪
-♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah... ♪
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Everybody hung 'round in this...
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in this club in Liverpool
called the Jacaranda,
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which was near the art school,
near Paul and George's school,
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in the center of Liverpool.
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And so we started
hanging 'round there
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before we really formed a band, you know,
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when there was just me,
Paul and George.
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The early days, we used to show up at gigs
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with just three of us, me,
George and John, with guitars.
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And the fella who booked us'd say,
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"Where's the drummer?"
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We'd say, "The rhythm's in the guitars."
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We... We once tried
to do this audition
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for Carroll Levis... There was this guy,
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Carroll Levis Discoveries.
And the scam, what it was,
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was that, you know,
everybody'd go on and audition
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and then they'd pick out somebody for...
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to, you know,
out of the auditions, and say,
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"Okay, you, you and you."
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And they'd pick out
about probably 20 different acts to go on.
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And they'd have an audience,
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and then they'd have the Clapometer,
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and whoever won
would go on into the final,
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or come back next week,
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and it was just something
that kept on going.
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We went in for one of those.
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So we were going up on the train
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from Liverpool to Manchester,
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rehearsing what we were going to do,
494
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,597
and only me and George had our guitars.
495
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,477
I think John, he must have sold his,
496
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,597
or bust it, or something.
He didn't have his with him.
497
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,317
Okay, there's just the two of us
with guitars.
498
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,877
And, as it happened, it looked good,
499
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
'cause Paul was, like, left-handed,
500
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,200
and I was right-handed, and still am,
501
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,157
and John was in the middle.
And, like, John stood there
502
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,200
with a hand on each shoulder, you know.
503
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,797
♪ Think it over what you just said ♪
504
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,037
♪ Pa, pa, pah... ♪
505
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,960
Me and George, John'd do the lead.
506
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,440
And we were also gonna do "Rave On".
507
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,757
So we went. We did it.
508
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,717
He put his arms around us,
and stuff, and it was okay.
509
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,160
We didn't win, as usual.
510
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,397
But I believe that day
some unfortunate person in that,
511
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,640
uh, theater was relieved of his guitar.
512
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,757
Stuart was
John's friend mainly, from art college.
513
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,597
Stuart was a very good painter.
514
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,070
We were all slightly jealous
of John's friendship.
515
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,197
So when Stuart came in,
516
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,677
it was a little bit of a sort of...
517
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,677
he was sort of taking
a little bit of that position
518
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,757
away from us.
519
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,757
We sort of had to take
a little bit of a, um,
520
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,837
back seat.
521
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,554
The famous story
is where he sold his painting
522
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,920
to John Moore Exhibition,
or something like that.
523
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,300
So the question was,
"What do you do with 75 quid?"
524
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,277
So we said, "Do you know,
that happens to be"
525
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,440
the exact amount it takes
to buy a Höfner bass,
526
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,877
"and that'd be a great thing
to spend the money on."
527
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,277
He said, "No, no, I'm a painter.
528
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,520
I've gotta spend it on paints,
and suchlike, you know."
529
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,517
We said, "No, Stuart, really."
530
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,957
And John and I kind of gave him
quite a sort of persuasive argument
531
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,717
that the best thing to do, obviously,
532
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,720
was to buy this Höfner bass.
533
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,477
Which he did. He went and did that.
534
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760
And, um, only trouble was,
he couldn't play it.
535
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,720
But it was better
to have a bass player who,
536
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,117
uh, couldn't play
537
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,054
than to not have a bass player at all.
538
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:57,280
♪ Well, don't leave me alone out here ♪
539
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,517
♪ Have courage
and follow me, my dear ♪
540
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,477
♪ Well, she says she's travelling ♪
541
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,400
♪ On the one after 909 ♪
542
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,040
♪ I said move over, honey
I'm travelling on that line ♪
543
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,120
♪ I said move over once, move over twice ♪
544
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,640
♪ Come on, baby don't be cold as ice ♪
545
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,440
♪ She said she's travelling
on the one after 909... ♪
546
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,677
Instead of going
to school, I'd go down
547
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,520
to his place, he had a piano.
548
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,997
And if I'd started something,
or he'd started something,
549
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,557
we'd say, "Here, I've got this."
And he'd say, "I've got this."
550
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,157
And we'd start helping
each other write our own songs
551
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,877
like that. So any combination
of the two of us writing,
552
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,320
that's how we wrote.
553
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,117
John and Stuart had this...
this flat in a place
554
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,517
called Gambier Terrace,
555
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,597
right near the Liverpool Institute,
556
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,840
near College of Art.
557
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,280
And, uh, I remember one day they came up.
558
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,677
John was all excited, saying,
559
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,837
"Oh, I've thought of this name,
The Beatles."
560
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,397
John thought
of the name "Beatles",
561
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,080
and he'll tell you about it now.
562
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Well, I had a vision when I was 12,
563
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,517
and I saw a man
on a flaming pie, and he said,
564
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,560
"You are Beatles with an A." And we are.
565
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,677
John put this thing in, um,
566
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,517
The Mersey Beat, right,
which was also started
567
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,480
by Bill Harry, who went
to art college with John,
568
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,797
just saying that, uh,
this little guy appeared
569
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,160
on a flaming pie,
570
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,837
you know, in the sky, and said,
571
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,200
"Let there be Beatles with an A."
572
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,197
I was looking
for a name, like The Crickets,
573
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,520
that meant two things,
574
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:36,827
and from Crickets I got to Beatles.
575
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,797
When you said it,
people thought of crawly things.
576
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,831
And when you read it, it was beat music.
577
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,557
You know, I realized by watching
The Wild One,
578
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,480
that the band... the... the gang
was all called the Beetles.
579
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,200
And here it is now.
580
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,760
You know, I've missed you.
581
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Ever since the club split up I missed you.
582
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,917
We all missed you! Do you miss him?
583
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,877
-Yeah! Sure!
-Yeah. The Beetles missed you.
584
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,277
All the Beetles missed you!
585
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,037
And we are.
586
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,757
When we started off, um, we had a manager
587
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,547
in Liverpool called Allan Williams,
588
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,997
who was a small bloke, uh,
a little sort of high voice,
589
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,275
little Welsh accent he had.
"All right, lads?"
590
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,637
He was a great bloke.
He was a real good motivator.
591
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,797
He was very good for us
at the time, you know.
592
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
And we did a tour of Scotland.
593
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,160
It was a pretty pathetic tour.
By the end of it we were broke.
594
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,517
We had no money.
595
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,680
We were all cold and freezing and,
596
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,477
you know, just miserable and...
and that was it, you know.
597
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,440
We all came back to Liverpool
and nothing happened really.
598
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,117
We didn't really know...
599
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,157
I felt really sad
'cause we were like orphans,
600
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,237
or something. We didn't have...
601
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,077
Our shoes were all full of holes,
602
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,600
and our trousers were a mess.
603
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,637
I would say to the others
when they were depressed,
604
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,117
or we were all depressed, you know,
605
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,757
thinking that the group was going nowhere
606
00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,997
and this is a shitty deal
607
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,040
and we're in a shitty dressing room,
608
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,094
I'd say, "Where are we goin', fellas?"
609
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,277
And they'd go, "To the top, Johnny"
610
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,917
in pseudo-American voices.
611
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,756
And I'd say, "Where's that, fellas?"
612
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,997
And they'd say,
"To the top per most of the pop per most."
613
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,280
And I'd say, "Right!"
614
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,560
Then we'd all sort of cheer up.
615
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,959
And then later,
Allan came to us and said,
616
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,597
"Okay, lads, you can have
this job in Germany.
617
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,597
The only problem is
you've got to be five people.
618
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680
He's asked for a five-piece band."
619
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920
At that point, Paul was the drummer
620
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,000
because all the drummers didn't show up!
621
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,157
And so, oh, that's right,
622
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,957
I said, "Okay. I remember this guy
623
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,477
who went up to this club,
and that we're gonna...
624
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,487
you know, Pete Best. And he had
this drum kit for Christmas."
625
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,957
He was known on Merseyside
626
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,360
as "Mean, Moody
and Magnificent Pete Best".
627
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,397
People who owned drum kits were far
628
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,529
and few between. It was an expensive item.
629
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,782
And they were usually idiots, you know.
630
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,840
We got Pete Best
just 'cause we needed a drummer
631
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,423
the next day to go to Hamburg.
632
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,800
He came down to the Jacaranda club.
633
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,597
We did a quick audition with him,
634
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,400
and jumped in the van
and went to Hamburg.
635
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,637
♪ We're gonna write a little letter ♪
636
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,440
♪ Gonna mail it to my local D.J. ♪
637
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,960
♪ It's a rockin' little record
I want my jockey to play ♪
638
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,880
♪ Roll over Beethoven,
gotta hear it again today ♪
639
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,637
♪ You know my temperature's... ♪
640
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,477
We ended up in Hamburg
at... um, very late one night.
641
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,840
We'd got the timing wrong.
642
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,677
There was no one there to meet us,
643
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880
but we could find Hamburg off the map
644
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,597
but then trying to find St. Pauli,
645
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,037
the little district in the Reeperbahn.
646
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,117
But everyone knew.
647
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,757
"Oh,
Reeperbahn, ja, it's dis vay,
648
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,037
you von't miss it," you know,
"Keep right aus, and..."
649
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,037
Okay. So we went down,
650
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,197
and we found the street and the club,
651
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,520
but it was all closed.
652
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,597
But we were there
with no hotel or anything,
653
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,757
and it was now...
...bedtime, you know.
654
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,037
So we managed to shake up someone
655
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,437
from a neighboring club, or something.
656
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,637
They... They found the guy,
and he opened the club,
657
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,637
and we slept
the first night in the alcoves
658
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,560
on the little red leather seats.
659
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,957
The second night
we moved in the Bambi Kino,
660
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,200
and then we were there for ages,
like, two months, three months.
661
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,477
Everything else was such a buzz,
662
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,797
you know, being right in the middle
663
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,117
of the naughtiest city
in the world at 17 years old.
664
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,320
It was kind of exciting.
665
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,557
And learning, you know, about,
well, there's all the gangsters,
666
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,877
and there's the transvestites,
and there's the...
667
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,437
You know, it was like that,
and there's the hookers.
668
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,237
At that time, we were just kids
669
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,877
let off the leash, really,
670
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,911
come straight from Liverpool to Hamburg,
671
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720
and we were used
to these little Liverpool girls.
672
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,277
But by the time you got to Hamburg,
673
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,917
if you... if you got a girlfriend there...
674
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,637
...she was likely to be a stripper,
675
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,397
which was the only kind
of people who were around
676
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
at the time we were around
late at night there. So...
677
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,557
I mean, you'd...
678
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,357
And for someone
who'd not really had much sex
679
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,879
in their lives before,
which none of us really had,
680
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,917
to be suddenly involved
with a sort of hard-core
681
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,640
striptease artist,
682
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920
who obviously knew a thing
or two about sex,
683
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
um, was quite an eye-opener.
684
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,956
♪ The best things in life are free ♪
685
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,560
♪ But you can keep 'em
for the birds and bees ♪
686
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,117
-♪ Now give me money ♪
-♪ That's what I want ♪
687
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,677
-♪ That's what I want ♪
-♪ That's what I want ♪
688
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,840
-♪ That's what I want, yeah ♪
-♪ That's what I want ♪
689
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,240
♪ That's what I want... ♪
690
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,757
In Hamburg, 'cause we had to work
691
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880
six or seven hours a night...
692
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400
on stage with no rest...
693
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,040
the waiters always had
these pills called Preludin.
694
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,837
And so the waiters, when they'd see
695
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,840
the musicians falling over
with tiredness or with drink,
696
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,420
they'd give you the pill.
697
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,240
You'd take the pill, you'd be
talking, you'd sober up.
698
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,157
You know, you could work almost endlessly
699
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,517
until the pill wore off,
then you'd have to have another.
700
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,157
We used to just be up there
frothing, you know,
701
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,877
at the mouth, just foaming,
702
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,237
just stomping away,
doing this, so...
703
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Those were the days.
704
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,357
We had to play
all the tunes for hours
705
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,877
and hours on end, you know.
706
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,837
That's why every song lasted 20 minutes
707
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,560
and had 20 solos in it.
708
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,317
But we'd be playing, like,
eight or ten hours a night,
709
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,397
or something.
710
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,637
And that's what improved
the playing, you know.
711
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,957
We thought we were the best
in Hamburg and Liverpool
712
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,517
before anybody else had heard us.
713
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,157
We thought we were the best!
714
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,077
Just a matter of time
before everybody else caught on.
715
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,677
And believing that
is what made us what we were.
716
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,957
By the time
717
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,157
we all met up in Germany,
718
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,923
they were playing one club,
we were playing another, um,
719
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,040
they were just great by then.
720
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,157
Ringo was a professional drummer
721
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,797
who sang and performed,
and had "Ringo Starr Time!"
722
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,637
And he was in the... one
of the top groups in Liverpool
723
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,517
before we even had a drummer!
724
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,837
Because we used to do long hours.
725
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,560
We used to do 12 hours
in a weekend between two bands,
726
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,677
uh, when we ended up
on the same club, and that.
727
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,520
So if they had the last set,
I'd sort of be semi-drunk
728
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,037
and demanding they play slow songs.
729
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,997
We made friends
with a lot of people.
730
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,997
The ones who became our real friends
731
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,480
were Klaus Voormann, Jürgen Vollmer,
732
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,797
and Astrid, who took
733
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,320
all the famous photographs
of us at that period.
734
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
Well, she was the one
who made us look good.
735
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,117
You know, those early Beatle photographs,
736
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,760
they look fantastic.
The Beatles look great.
737
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,360
She was dressed like that,
the leather kecks,
738
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,997
you know, and the hair
like the Beatle haircuts,
739
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,877
and so they gave us confidence
to, like, leave it that way.
740
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480
They weren't really
Rockers or Mods,
741
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,637
they were something in the middle.
742
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:55,120
They called themselves
"Exis". Existentialists.
743
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,917
They were art students, really.
744
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,720
♪ My girl is red hot ♪
745
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,237
-♪ My girl is red hot ♪
-♪ Ooh! ♪
746
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,240
♪ My girl is red hot ♪
747
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,200
♪ My girl is red hot ♪
748
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,637
♪ She ain't got no money ♪
749
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,077
♪ But, man, she's really got a lot ♪
750
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,240
-♪ My girl is red hot ♪
-♪ Hey! ♪
751
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,277
♪ I've got a girl that's six foot four ♪
752
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,637
♪ Sleeps in the kitchen
with her feet out the door ♪
753
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,520
♪ My girl is red hot ♪
754
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,960
♪ My girl is red hot... ♪
755
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,957
I was 17 when we first went out
756
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,917
and they had this
kind of situation in Germany
757
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,080
which I'd never come across before...
758
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,117
...which was a curfew, um,
759
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,997
and after ten o'clock at night,
760
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,757
anybody who was under 18 had to get out.
761
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,237
And I was only 17,
I was sitting in the band
762
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560
and I kept... started getting worried.
763
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,237
And eventually somebody found out
764
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,880
we didn't have any work permits or visas,
765
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,917
so they started closing in on us.
766
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,917
And the police came one day,
767
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,560
and then they just booted me out.
768
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,757
So the second time
we went back when I was 18,
769
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,837
this fella came into the club
who was... they said,
770
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,517
"Oh, he's this famous
record producer and musician,"
771
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,997
and he was called Bert Kaempfert.
772
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,440
He came in the club,
773
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,597
and I remember this buzz went around,
774
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,237
"We've gotta be good. Play really good.
775
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,040
We may get a chance to record,"
776
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,037
which we did, and we got
all pleased with ourselves.
777
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,535
And then we got to the studio
778
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,037
and he just wanted us to,
like, back up Tony Sheridan.
779
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,677
I remember feeling a little depressed.
780
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,157
But we did, nevertheless,
get to do that "My Bonnie".
781
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,480
♪ My Bonnie lies over the ocean ♪
782
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,477
♪ My Bonnie lies over the sea ♪
783
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,560
♪ Well, my Bonnie lies over the ocean ♪
784
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,400
♪ Yeah, bring back my Bonnie to me... ♪
785
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,957
While we were out there,
we started to see other groups,
786
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,197
and stuff, and started to get
a little bit dissatisfied
787
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,477
with Pete. Not massively,
788
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,117
but just a little bit of dissatisfaction
789
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,437
started to creep in.
790
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,757
I seem to remember him, you know,
791
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,637
starting to not turn up for gigs,
792
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,597
and then we kept getting Ringo in.
793
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,157
Every time Ringo sat in with the band,
794
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,797
it just seemed like this was it.
795
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,197
And this happened
three or four times,
796
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,277
and then that was the end.
797
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,157
You know, we were just pals,
and we'd have a drink after it,
798
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,157
and then I'd be back with Rory.
799
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:20,557
And round about this time,
800
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,877
Stuart and I got a little bit fraught too.
801
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,917
See, 'cause I... I claim
that what I was trying to do
802
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,240
was make sure we were musically very good,
803
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,757
but this did create a couple of rifts,
804
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,767
and I can see now how I could
have been more sensitive to it.
805
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,310
But who's sensitive at that age?
Certainly not me.
806
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,637
Well, when we first met him,
807
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,917
he couldn't play at all, uh,
and he learned a few tunes.
808
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,677
Occasionally, it was a bit embarrassing.
809
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,160
He didn't... You know, if it had
a lot of changes to it he was...
810
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,397
But he knew that, too.
That's why, you know,
811
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,597
he was never really that at ease
being in the band,
812
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,168
and that's why he decided
to go back to art college.
813
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
At that point,
Paul was still playing a guitar,
814
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,797
and I remember saying,
815
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,221
"Well, one of us
is going to be the bass player."
816
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,637
I remember saying, "And it's not me."
817
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,037
"I'm not doing it." And John said,
818
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,388
"I'm not doing it either."
819
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,797
I got lumbered with it, really.
820
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,157
I didn't wanna be the bass player,
821
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,517
but there was no one left.
So I went and got...
822
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,477
I went, uh... Before we left Hamburg,
823
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,797
I went and got, um,
824
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,197
my Höfner bass down in the city center.
825
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,240
He went for it.
826
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,237
♪ You tell lies thinking I can't see ♪
827
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,717
♪ You can't cry
'cause your laughing at me ♪
828
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,477
-♪ I'm down ♪
-♪ I'm really down ♪
829
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,597
-♪ I'm down ♪
-♪ Down on the ground ♪
830
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,917
-♪ I'm down ♪
-♪ I'm really down ♪
831
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,877
♪ How can you laugh
when you know I'm down? ♪
832
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,477
-♪ How can you laugh ♪
-♪ When you know I'm down? ♪
833
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,637
And then we went back to Liverpool
834
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,397
and got quite a few bookings,
you know, they all thought
835
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,637
we were German.
836
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,157
You know, we were billed
as "from Hamburg",
837
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,757
and they were all saying,
"You speak good English..."
838
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,437
...you know, things like that.
839
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,517
So we went back to Germany,
840
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,197
and we had a bit more
money the second time,
841
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,477
so we bought leather pants
842
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,414
and we looked like four Gene Vincents,
843
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,400
only a bit younger, I think.
844
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,757
Anyway, we got back to Liverpool,
845
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,547
and all the groups there were doing
846
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080
the sort of Shadows type of stuff.
847
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,277
That's why, you know,
we became popular
848
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,837
because they couldn't believe it.
849
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,037
There was all these
♪ Dum, de-dum, de-dum, de-dum ♪
850
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,837
♪ de-diddlee-dum... ♪
851
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,000
...and then suddenly we come on,
wild men in leather suits.
852
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,717
I think it was Pete Best...
853
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,597
...said to them that, uh, you know,
854
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680
I would, uh, drive them, uh,
855
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,917
to the gigs and stuff. And, uh, I got...
856
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,640
I think I got a pound a night,
or a pound a gig, you know.
857
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Five bob off each of 'em.
858
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,597
You know, they needed transport
to get them to the Cavern
859
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,265
and wherever, 'cause they were
using cabs at the time.
860
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,357
I mean, on the street in Liverpool,
861
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560
and unless you were in the suburbs,
862
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,117
yeah, I mean, you had to walk
close to the wall, you know?
863
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,437
And to get to the Cavern, you know,
864
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,397
for those of you who remember all that,
865
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,717
it was no easy matter,
even at lunchtime sometimes.
866
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,437
I mean, it's a tense place.
867
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,677
We played the Cavern
before we ever went to Hamburg,
868
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,920
I believe,
869
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160
in the days when it was a jazz
and folk club.
870
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,957
I seem to remember playing there
871
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,797
and them handing us
these notes saying,
872
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,760
"Stop playing this music.
This is a jazz club."
873
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,957
Had a couple of requests
to do a tune
874
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,397
called "Kansas City",
875
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,090
so we'd like to do "Kansas City".
876
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,037
One, two, three...
877
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,329
So anyway,
we did well at the Cavern
878
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880
and, uh, attracted some big audiences.
879
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,797
And the word got around.
880
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,957
What had happened was a kid had gone
881
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,237
into Brian Epstein's record store
882
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,960
and had asked for "My Bonnie".
883
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,317
And then he found out
884
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,477
that the Beatles were supposed
to be a Liverpool band
885
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,797
and they were playing in the Cavern,
886
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,477
so he went down the street
and... and checked us out.
887
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,600
Because I remember Bob Wooler,
the disc jockey, saying,
888
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,117
"And we have a Mr. Epstein,
889
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,157
who owns NEMS Enterprises, in here."
890
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,517
And everybody was going,
"Ooh! Wow!" you know.
891
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Big, big deal.
892
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
♪ ...one more time, whoa, whoa ♪
893
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,800
♪ It's just a-one, two, three, four... ♪
894
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,892
This was quite
a new world really for me.
895
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,877
Uh, I was amazed by this sort of dark,
896
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,157
smoky, dank atmosphere
897
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,920
with this beat music playing away.
898
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,437
And, um, the Beatles
were then just four lads
899
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,757
on that rather dimly-lit stage...
900
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,757
...uh, somewhat ill-clad,
and their presentation was,
901
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,317
well, left a little to be desired
902
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,597
as far as I was concerned,
903
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,557
'cause I'd been interested in the theatre
904
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,520
and acting for a long time.
905
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,760
But amongst all that,
something tremendous came over,
906
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,717
and, uh, I was immediately struck
907
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
by their... their...
their music, their beat
908
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,320
and, uh, their sense of humor,
actually, on stage.
909
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,077
And even afterwards, when I met them,
910
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,480
I was struck again
by their personal charm.
911
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,637
And, uh, it was there
that really it all started.
912
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,757
Brian had this shop and,
you know, it was good.
913
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,277
We used to get... pick
a couple of records,
914
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,477
and he had this big Zephyr Zodiac,
915
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,717
and he wanted to manage us,
916
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960
and we weren't going anywhere anyway, so,
917
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,437
you know, we said,
"Yes, he might as well."
918
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,957
Straight away he got us some jobs,
919
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,440
got us a bit more money
920
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,357
and, um, then started
getting us radio shows,
921
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,717
and things like that. And then,
you know, as we go ahead,
922
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,640
we got into our suits.
923
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,440
You know, he talked
us out of the leather suits.
924
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,849
It was a bit
sort of old hat anyway,
925
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,640
all wearing leather gear,
926
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,960
and we decided we didn't
wanna look sort of ridiculous
927
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,757
just going on, because y...
more often than not,
928
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,800
sort of people, too many people'd laugh.
929
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,917
It was just stupid. And we didn't wanna
930
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,840
sort of appear as a gang of idiots.
931
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,517
And Brian suggested that we just
sort of wore ordinary suits.
932
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,797
I mean, we cleaned up a bit.
933
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,560
Brian cleaned us up a bit
when he discovered us...
934
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:03,440
or we discovered him, as Paul says.
935
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,597
It was later
put around that, uh,
936
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,437
I'd betrayed our heavy leather image
937
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,520
that we had at the time,
and I wanted us to get suits.
938
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,677
But I seem to recall that we,
uh, all went quite happily.
939
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,957
I didn't have to drag anyone
there, uh, to the tailors.
940
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,440
They all went quite happily.
941
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,237
You know,
Brian put us into suits,
942
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,197
and all that,
and we made it very, very big.
943
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,560
But we sold out, you know.
944
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,517
So, you know,
we gladly switched into suits,
945
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,597
you know, if it was...
946
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,436
if we were gonna get
some more money,
947
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,477
get some more gigs.
948
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,117
Brian was a...
a beautiful guy, Brian Epstein,
949
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,877
and he was, uh,
an intuitive, theatrical guy,
950
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,399
and he knew we had something.
He presented us well.
951
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,277
So Brian contributed as much
as us in the early days,
952
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,920
although we were the talent
and he was the hustler.
953
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,397
Yeah, I remember
we had to drive down to London
954
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,277
on, uh, New Year's Eve,
955
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,760
because we did, uh, a session for Decca.
956
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,957
You know, an audition for Decca.
957
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,077
♪ Well, up popped that first cool cat ♪
958
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,477
♪ He said, "Man, look at that! ♪"
959
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,120
♪ Man, do you see what I see?" ♪
960
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,677
♪ Well, now, I want that middle chick ♪
961
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,317
♪ I want that little chick ♪
962
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,677
♪ Hey, man, save one chick for me! ♪
963
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,080
-♪ Yeah! ♪
-♪ Three cool chicks ♪
964
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,877
♪ Three cool chicks ♪
965
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,357
♪ Ah-hah! ♪
966
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,837
♪ Cha-cha boom! ♪
967
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,680
♪ Bésame, bésame mucho... ♪
968
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,768
And when you hear
the tape, it's pretty good.
969
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,637
You know, it's not great, but it's good.
970
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,400
And it's certainly good for then.
971
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,757
Dick Rowe,
the man who didn't sign us,
972
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,560
the head of Decca, he said,
973
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,760
"Guitar groups are on the way
out, Mr. Epstein."
974
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,720
♪ Cha-cha boom! ♪
975
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:50,160
♪ Bésame, bésame mucho ♪
976
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,117
♪ Love me forever ♪
977
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,520
♪ And say that you'll always be mine ♪
978
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,477
♪ Cha-cha boom! ♪
979
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,437
So Brian then had this tape
which he hawked around.
980
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,757
If he hadn't gone
round London on foot
981
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,240
with the tapes under his arm
982
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,597
and gone from place
to place, to place to place,
983
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,280
and finally to George Martin...
984
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,637
we would never have made it,
985
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:14,208
because we didn't have the push
to do it on our own.
986
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,760
And I think it was somebody
in the HMV shop on Oxford Street
987
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,597
knew George Martin, and told Brian to go
988
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,157
and play the tape to George Martin,
989
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,837
and then he gave us
the audition at, um, Abbey Road.
990
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,997
And, uh,
they came down here
991
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,760
and I spent some time with them,
992
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,797
went through all their stuff,
and tried to make up my mind
993
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,597
which was the Cliff Richard
of the group, you know.
994
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,077
Because one gets... one was focused,
995
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,877
in those days, on a... a lead
singer and a backing group.
996
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,477
And, uh, suddenly
realized at the end of it all
997
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,717
that it was nonsense.
998
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,640
It was a group
that I had to take as it was.
999
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,397
George had done little of...
1000
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,037
no rock and roll when we met him,
1001
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,397
and we'd never been in the studio,
1002
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,997
so we did a lot of learning together.
1003
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,397
He had a very great
1004
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,080
musical knowledge and background.
1005
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,837
Even though they had, uh,
1006
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,557
nothing really behind them,
1007
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,797
they were still fairly
irreverent even in those days,
1008
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,317
which I... which I loved, you know.
1009
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040
I... I... I like a little bit
of rebel in people,
1010
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,930
and I liked their sense of humor.
1011
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680
After all, that was my main
stock-in-trade, too.
1012
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,997
And I guess they quite liked
what I'd been doing
1013
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,917
with Peter Sellers and the Goons,
1014
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,560
and that kind of thing.
Um, no, I... I don't...
1015
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,485
They... They had tremendous charisma.
1016
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640
I knew that that alone would sell them.
1017
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,157
And we did a reasonable
audition, not very good.
1018
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,520
But the thing he didn't like
was our drummer.
1019
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,640
We really started to think we, um,
1020
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,880
needed the great drummer in Liverpool.
1021
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,477
Uh, it was a Wednesday,
and Brian called.
1022
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,853
"Would you join the band?"
1023
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,837
And I said,
"What do you mean?" He said,
1024
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
"No, really join the band."
1025
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,717
And I said,
"Sure. Yeah. When?" And he said,
1026
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
"Now!" Well, I said, "No, I can't do that
1027
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,437
'cause we've got
these other four guys here.
1028
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,957
There's... We've got a gig for months
1029
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,637
"and, you know, I can't just
pull out now and it all end."
1030
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,920
So I said, "I'll join you Saturday,"
1031
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,197
because we used to have Saturday off,
1032
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,719
'cause that's when they used
to change the campers.
1033
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,757
And so I gave Rory
Thursday, Friday, Saturday
1034
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,477
to bring someone in, 'cause...
1035
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,557
to open again on Sunday,
which I thought was giving him
1036
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,250
a hell of a lot of time.
1037
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,040
And... uh, and that was it.
1038
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,797
Historically, it may look like
we did something nasty to Pete,
1039
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,357
and it may... may have been
1040
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,157
that we could have done it better.
1041
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,597
But the thing was, as history also shows,
1042
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,397
Ringo was the... the member of the band.
1043
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,277
It's just that he didn't enter
the s... the film
1044
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
until that particular scene, you know?
1045
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,197
I met Paul and said,
1046
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,134
"Do you wanna join me band?" you know.
1047
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,237
And then George joined.
And then Ringo joined.
1048
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,600
We were just a band who made
it very, very big, that's all.
1049
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,920
At this midday
session at the Cavern,
1050
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,597
we proudly present The Beatles.
1051
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,317
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1052
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,597
♪ Has taken my love
away from me, oh now ♪
1053
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,120
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1054
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,437
♪ Has taken away
my sweet desire, oh now ♪
1055
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,237
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1056
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,237
♪ I just don't wanna hold
my head, oh now ♪
1057
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,800
♪ I'm the lonely one ♪
1058
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,160
♪ As lonely as I can feel, all right ♪
1059
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,520
♪ Some other guy ♪
1060
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,117
♪ You're steppin' on my honey
like a yellow dog, oh now ♪
1061
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,837
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1062
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,920
♪ Has taken my love
just like a hog, oh now ♪
1063
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,677
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1064
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,957
♪ Has taken my love
away from me, oh now ♪
1065
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680
♪ I'm the lonely one ♪
1066
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,160
♪ As lonely as I can feel, all right ♪
1067
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,320
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1068
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,040
♪ Some other guy ♪
1069
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,357
♪ You're making me
very, very mad, oh now ♪
1070
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,960
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1071
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,240
♪ You've taken the padlock
off my pad, oh now ♪
1072
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,957
♪ Some other guy now ♪
1073
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,237
♪ You took the first girl
I've ever had, oh now ♪
1074
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,037
♪ I'm the lonely one ♪
1075
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,640
♪ As lonely as I can feel, all right now ♪
1076
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,360
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1077
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000
♪ I'm a-talkin' to you, right now ♪
1078
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,577
We want Pete!
1079
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,157
We played the Cavern.
1080
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,997
There was a lot of fighting and shouting.
1081
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,637
Half of them hated me,
half of them loved me.
1082
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,964
There was a few people there
who were shouting,
1083
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,037
"Ringo never! Pete Best forever!"
1084
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,397
And after about half an hour,
I said, "Oh, bugger off"
1085
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,840
or something and,
uh, stepped out of this...
1086
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,360
you know, the Cavern had this...
it was three tunnels,
1087
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,757
and we stepped out
of what was the dressing room
1088
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,277
into this dark tunnel,
and some guy just, like,
1089
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,280
butted me right in the eye.
1090
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,000
That was a bad day.
And then I walked under a bus.
1091
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Got hit by a double-deck bus.
1092
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,320
George fought for me.
1093
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,397
What I think
about the Beatles is that
1094
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,997
even if there'd been Paul
and John and two other people,
1095
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,517
we'd never have been The Beatles.
1096
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,517
It had to take that combination
of Paul, John,
1097
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,280
George and Ringo to make The Beatles.
1098
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,477
When Ringo
came to the session
1099
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,760
for the first time,
1100
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
nobody told me that he was coming.
1101
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,400
Ringo turns up expecting to play,
1102
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,717
and I said, "Well, you know,
I've been bitten once,
1103
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,997
I'm not going to have that.
I don't even know who you are."
1104
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,597
He'd originally told us
he wanted another drummer
1105
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,997
besides Pete Best.
We'd gone away. We'd changed.
1106
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,637
We brought the new drummer,
the best in Liverpool,
1107
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,597
and now he didn't like the new drummer!
1108
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,277
I'd already booked Andy White,
1109
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,397
and I told Brian Epstein
I was going to do this.
1110
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,997
I said, "I just want the three others,
1111
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,477
and that's fine.
We're going to have Andy White,
1112
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,720
thank you very much."
1113
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,797
And I then I had to find
a hit song for them.
1114
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,360
The best I could find from them
was "Love Me Do".
1115
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,800
No, I was devastated!
I came down, ready to roll, and,
1116
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960
"We've got Andy White,
the professional drummer."
1117
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,837
But he's apologized several times since,
1118
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,200
has old George Martin.
1119
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,037
But it was... it was devastating.
1120
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,757
And then we did that, which...
which Andy plays on,
1121
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,440
and then we did the album,
which I play on.
1122
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,240
You know, so Andy
wasn't doing anything so great.
1123
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,157
Well, he wasn't doing anything
so great I couldn't copy
1124
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,797
when we did the album.
1125
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,997
Oh, Ringo, to this day,
bears those scars.
1126
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,617
He says, you know, "You didn't
let me play, did you?"
1127
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,797
Well, "Love Me Do"
was one of the first ones
1128
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,757
we wrote ourselves, you know,
and Paul started writing that
1129
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,437
when he must have been about 15.
1130
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,520
It was the first one we'd sort
of dared do of our own.
1131
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,520
♪ Love, love me do ♪
1132
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,880
♪ You know I love you ♪
1133
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,280
♪ I'll always be true ♪
1134
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,400
♪ So please ♪
1135
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,040
♪ Love me do ♪
1136
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,477
Actually,
their first record did very well.
1137
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,037
It sold 100,000 copies.
That was "Love Me Do".
1138
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,080
The best thing was, it came
to the charts in two days.
1139
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,797
And everybody thought it was a fiddle
1140
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,877
because our manager's stores
send in these,
1141
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,077
-what is it, record things?
-Returns.
1142
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Returns.
1143
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,037
And everybody down south
thought,
1144
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,757
"Ah, he's buying them himself,
1145
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,557
"or he's just fiddling
the charts," you know.
1146
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,680
But he wasn't.
1147
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,237
It was bought by the kids.
1148
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,920
I mean, we had a big following.
1149
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,237
And who'd had a record? It was...
1150
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,477
You know, Arthur Askey
was the last one, I think,
1151
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,600
out of Liverpool.
1152
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:16,157
♪ Someone to love ♪
1153
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,720
♪ Someone like you ♪
1154
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,680
♪ Love, love me do ♪
1155
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,080
♪ You know I love you ♪
1156
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,400
♪ I'll always be true ♪
1157
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:35,960
♪ So please love me do ♪
1158
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,840
♪ Whoa, oh, love me do ♪
1159
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,880
♪ Love, love me do ♪
1160
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040
♪ You know I love you ♪
1161
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,320
♪ I'll always be true ♪
1162
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,560
♪ So please ♪
1163
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,120
♪ Love me do ♪
1164
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,840
♪ Whoa, oh, love me do ♪
1165
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,160
♪ Yeah, love me do ♪
1166
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,040
♪ Oh, oh, love me do... ♪
1167
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,757
We made the record
of "Love Me Do".
1168
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,797
It went to No. 17,
1169
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,120
probably based upon the sales
in Liverpool.
1170
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,800
EMI was kinda happy to have us back.
1171
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,280
"Welcome back, lads!"
1172
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,117
We were starting to be this group
1173
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,000
that had done its own material.
1174
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,597
But normally you'd be offered
a number of songs
1175
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,957
by a publisher, and they'd say,
1176
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,117
"Get your boys to do this one.
This is a hit."
1177
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,397
When we first got in the studio,
1178
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,077
they tried to give us
other people's songs.
1179
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,400
They didn't like ours.
1180
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,677
Well, it was quite normal
in those days to find material
1181
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,397
for artists by going to Tin Pan Alley
1182
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,717
and listening
to all the publishers' wares.
1183
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,917
I mean, that was a regular part
of my life.
1184
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,951
I'd spend a long time looking for songs.
1185
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,397
And the songs that I was looking for
1186
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,597
for the Beatles was really a hit song,
1187
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,480
it didn't matter, so long
as it suited their... the group.
1188
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,277
And "Love Me Do", as I say,
was the best one
1189
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,600
they were able to offer.
1190
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,557
The kind of song I was looking for,
1191
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,920
I did actually find.
1192
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,237
And that was a song by Mitch Murray
1193
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,588
called "How Do You Do It?"
1194
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,951
And I was convinced this was a hit song.
1195
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,437
It forced us to do a version of...
1196
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,677
♪ How do you do what you do to me? ♪
1197
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,037
♪ I wish I knew... ♪
1198
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,397
You know, like that.
1199
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,517
And we did record it.
Um... John took the lead.
1200
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,040
♪ How do you do what you do to me? ♪
1201
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,280
♪ I wish I knew ♪
1202
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,280
♪ If I knew how you do it to me,
I'd do it to you ♪
1203
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,917
George said, "Well, it's a No. 1 song.
1204
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,800
If you want a No. 1, this is it."
1205
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,600
We said, "Yeah, but we cannot go
back up to Liverpool"
1206
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,197
singing that.
1207
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,517
We cannot be seen with that song."
1208
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,649
So we didn't ever issue
"How Do You Do It?"
1209
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
But I did later give it
to Gerry and the Pacemakers,
1210
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,480
and it did become No. 1.
1211
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,166
♪ How do you do what you do to me? ♪
1212
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,680
♪ I wish I knew ♪
1213
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,760
♪ If I knew how you do it to me,
I'd do it to you ♪
1214
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,877
So George Martin says,
1215
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,357
"Well, have you got anything
you'd like to do?"
1216
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,517
We said...
1217
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,397
..."We've got a song
called 'Please Please Me'."
1218
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,720
This is one John had just written,
1219
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,997
and it was kind of slow
Roy Orbison kind of thing.
1220
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,957
♪ Come on, jum-jum ♪
1221
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,317
♪ Come on,
please, please me ♪
1222
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,320
Big note at the end, just like Orbison.
1223
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,237
And I'd heard Roy Orbison doing
1224
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,677
"Only The Lonely" or something,
and I was trying to...
1225
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,797
♪ Please me... ♪
1226
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,077
That's where that came from.
1227
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,277
And also I was always intrigued
by the words of...
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00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,317
♪ Please,
lend your little ears to my pleas... ♪
1229
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,280
A Bing Crosby song.
I was always intrigued by the...
1230
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,080
the double use of the word "please".
1231
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,037
And I said, "Okay. We'll give it a whirl.
1232
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,240
Let's try your song.
Let's see if it works."
1233
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,077
And we did.
1234
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,557
And at the end of that session,
1235
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:06,960
I was able to say to them,
1236
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,197
"You've got your first No. 1. Great!"
1237
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,680
♪ Last night I said these words
to my girl ♪
1238
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,360
♪ I know you never even try, girl ♪
1239
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,637
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1240
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,237
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1241
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,957
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1242
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,277
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1243
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:34,240
♪ Please, please me, whoa, yeah,
like I please you ♪
1244
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,520
♪ You don't need me
to show the way, love ♪
1245
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,200
♪ Why do I always have to say, love ♪
1246
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,557
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1247
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,237
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1248
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,957
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1249
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,317
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1250
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,280
♪ Please, please me, whoa, yeah,
like I please you ♪
1251
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,237
♪ I don't want to sound complaining ♪
1252
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,717
♪ But you know there's always
rain in my heart ♪
1253
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,437
-♪ In my heart ♪
-♪ In my heart ♪
1254
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,117
♪ I do all the pleasing with you ♪
1255
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,037
♪ It's so hard to reason with you ♪
1256
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,320
♪ Oh yeah,
why do you make me blue? ♪
1257
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,880
♪ Last night I said these words
to my girl ♪
1258
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,600
♪ I know you never even try, girl ♪
1259
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,677
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1260
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,400
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1261
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,237
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1262
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,717
-♪ Come on ♪
-♪ Come on ♪
1263
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,517
♪ Please, please me, whoa, yeah,
like I please you ♪
1264
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,880
♪ Me, whoa, yeah, like I please you ♪
1265
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,437
♪ Me, whoa, yeah, like I please you ♪
1266
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:03,160
And Bob Wooler got on the stage,
telegram in his hand.
1267
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,557
"I've got news for you.
1268
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,077
The Beatles' record, 'Please Please Me'
1269
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680
has reached No. 1 in the national charts."
1270
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,400
And the lads themselves
just stopped and looked at him.
1271
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,797
You know, they thought he was joking,
1272
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,877
he must have been.
1273
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,106
You know, that was Paul,
"He must be joking."
1274
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,837
And there... there were a lot of people
1275
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,277
who didn't know the Beatles,
1276
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,680
and they all started cheering
and clapping.
1277
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,077
And there were about three rows
of girls at the front,
1278
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,400
and every one of us started crying.
1279
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,440
It was a terrible night.
You know, we knew then,
1280
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,957
they'll get famous and they'll go away
1281
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,650
and they'll belong to us no more.
1282
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,360
♪ You better leave ♪
1283
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,680
♪ My kitten all alone ♪
1284
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,760
♪ You better leave ♪
1285
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,240
♪ My kitten all alone ♪
1286
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,200
♪ Well, I told you, big fat bulldog ♪
1287
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,480
♪ You better leave her alone ♪
1288
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,880
♪ You better leave ♪
1289
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,240
♪ My kitten all alone ♪
1290
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,400
♪ You better leave ♪
1291
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,800
♪ My kitten all alone ♪
1292
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,600
♪ This dog is gonna get you ♪
1293
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,080
♪ If you don't leave her alone ♪
1294
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,317
♪ Well, Mister Dog ♪
1295
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,797
♪ I'm gonna hit you ♪
1296
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,120
♪ On the top of your head ♪
1297
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,557
♪ That child is gonna miss you ♪
1298
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,757
♪ You're gonna wish ♪
1299
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:48,997
♪ That you was dead ♪
1300
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,597
♪ If you don't leave ♪
1301
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,320
♪ My kitten all alone ♪
1302
01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,877
♪ Well, I told you ♪
1303
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,560
♪ Big fat bulldog ♪
1304
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
♪ You better leave her alone ♪
1305
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,480
♪ All right! ♪
1306
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,600
♪ Hey, hey, hey, come on! ♪
1307
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,360
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah! ♪
1308
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,117
♪ Yeah, yeah! ♪
1309
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,280
♪ Well, Mister Dog ♪
1310
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,437
♪ I'm gonna hit you ♪
1311
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,000
♪ On the top of your head ♪
1312
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,477
♪ That child is gonna miss you ♪
1313
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,557
♪ You're gonna wish ♪
1314
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:46,637
♪ That you was dead ♪
1315
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,237
♪ If you don't leave ♪
1316
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,080
♪ My kitten all alone ♪
1317
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,160
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
1318
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,437
♪ Well, I told you ♪
1319
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,040
♪ Big fat bulldog ♪
1320
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,360
♪ You better leave her alone ♪
1321
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,720
♪ Hey, hey ♪
1322
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,440
♪ You better leave ♪
1323
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,720
♪ You better leave ♪
1324
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,400
♪ You better leave ♪
1325
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,840
♪ Yeah, you better leave ♪
1326
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,360
♪ You better leave ♪
1327
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,440
♪ Oh, you gotta leave ♪
1328
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,560
♪ Hey, hey ♪
1329
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,117
♪ Well, I told you ♪
1330
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,640
♪ Big, fat bulldog ♪
1331
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,000
♪ You better leave her alone ♪
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