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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,917 --> 00:00:20,702 Roosevelt: I believe that we are going to get along very well 2 00:00:20,736 --> 00:00:22,871 With marshal stalin. 3 00:00:25,308 --> 00:00:28,009 The american people have always had guts 4 00:00:28,044 --> 00:00:29,177 And always will have. 5 00:00:29,195 --> 00:00:32,197 Crowd: We want wallace! We want wallace! 6 00:00:32,231 --> 00:00:34,082 We want wallace! 7 00:00:34,117 --> 00:00:36,918 Roosevelt: I'll accept the results of this conference 8 00:00:36,953 --> 00:00:40,839 As the beginnings of a permanent structure of peace. 9 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:46,912 Truman: Our demand has been, 10 00:00:46,946 --> 00:00:48,480 And it remains, 11 00:00:48,514 --> 00:00:50,698 Unconditional surrender. 12 00:01:02,128 --> 00:01:03,628 A short time ago, 13 00:01:03,663 --> 00:01:06,765 An american airplane dropped one bomb 14 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:08,433 On hiroshima 15 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:11,169 And destroyed its usefulness to the enemy. 16 00:01:12,672 --> 00:01:14,656 The japanese began the war from the air 17 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:15,991 At pearl harbor. 18 00:01:16,025 --> 00:01:18,844 They have been repaid manyfold. 19 00:01:18,895 --> 00:01:20,445 And the end is not yet. 20 00:01:21,914 --> 00:01:23,849 We shall destroy their docks, 21 00:01:23,883 --> 00:01:25,050 Their factories 22 00:01:25,084 --> 00:01:27,185 And their communications. 23 00:01:27,220 --> 00:01:28,820 Let there be no mistake-- 24 00:01:28,855 --> 00:01:30,005 We shall completely destroy 25 00:01:30,039 --> 00:01:32,891 Japan's power to make war. 26 00:01:32,925 --> 00:01:35,393 It is an atomic bomb. 27 00:01:35,428 --> 00:01:39,197 It is a harnessing of the basic power of the universe. 28 00:01:39,232 --> 00:01:43,151 Stone: This was August 6, 1945. 29 00:01:43,186 --> 00:01:45,954 The war in europe had ended close to three months before 30 00:01:45,972 --> 00:01:47,289 On may the 8th. 31 00:01:54,247 --> 00:01:57,766 Looming on November 1 was operation downfall-- 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,185 The invasion of the japanese islands, 33 00:02:00,219 --> 00:02:03,154 Overseen by general douglas macarthur. 34 00:02:03,189 --> 00:02:04,856 Many feared a bloodbath 35 00:02:04,907 --> 00:02:08,093 As americans confronted a fanatically hostile 36 00:02:08,127 --> 00:02:09,878 Civilian population 37 00:02:09,912 --> 00:02:14,099 As well as the remaining japanese imperial armed forces. 38 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:16,585 The climate for the war on japan 39 00:02:16,619 --> 00:02:18,119 Was shaped by the profound hatred 40 00:02:18,153 --> 00:02:21,256 Americans felt towards the japanese. 41 00:02:24,594 --> 00:02:27,528 Pulitzer prize-winning historian allan nevins 42 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:30,382 Wrote after the war, "probably in all our history, 43 00:02:30,416 --> 00:02:32,667 No foe has been so detested 44 00:02:32,685 --> 00:02:34,786 As were the japanese." 45 00:02:34,820 --> 00:02:37,122 Admiral william "bull" halsey, 46 00:02:37,156 --> 00:02:39,524 Commander of the south pacific force, 47 00:02:39,559 --> 00:02:41,459 Was notorious in this regard, 48 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:44,829 Urging his men to kill the "yellow monkeys" 49 00:02:44,864 --> 00:02:47,065 And "get some more monkey meat." 50 00:02:47,099 --> 00:02:49,751 Halsey: They were tough monkeys, but they could be had. 51 00:02:49,769 --> 00:02:52,404 Stone: An article in "time" magazine stated 52 00:02:52,455 --> 00:02:55,056 "the ordinary unreasoning jap is ignorant. 53 00:02:55,091 --> 00:02:57,359 Perhaps he is human. 54 00:02:57,393 --> 00:02:58,860 Nothing indicates it." 55 00:02:58,894 --> 00:03:00,962 The british embassy in washington 56 00:03:00,997 --> 00:03:04,199 Reported back to london that the americans viewed the japanese 57 00:03:04,233 --> 00:03:07,002 As a "nameless mass of vermin." 58 00:03:07,036 --> 00:03:09,504 When popular war correspondent ernie pyle 59 00:03:09,538 --> 00:03:11,439 Was transferred from europe to the pacific 60 00:03:11,474 --> 00:03:13,975 In February '45, he observed... 61 00:03:14,010 --> 00:03:16,611 Pyle: In europe, we felt that our enemies, 62 00:03:16,646 --> 00:03:18,363 Horrible and deadly as they were, 63 00:03:18,397 --> 00:03:19,698 Were still people. 64 00:03:19,732 --> 00:03:21,366 But out here I soon gathered 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,917 That the japanese were looked upon 66 00:03:22,951 --> 00:03:27,138 The way some people feel about cockroaches or mice. 67 00:03:27,173 --> 00:03:29,924 Stone: Some of this sentiment can be attributed 68 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:31,326 Certainly to racism. 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,895 But american rancor towards japan soared 70 00:03:33,929 --> 00:03:36,781 With the sneak attack at pearl harbor. 71 00:03:36,816 --> 00:03:38,183 And in early 1944, 72 00:03:38,217 --> 00:03:40,318 The government released information 73 00:03:40,369 --> 00:03:42,253 About the sadistic treatment of u.S. 74 00:03:42,288 --> 00:03:45,457 And filipino prisoners during the baton death March 75 00:03:45,508 --> 00:03:47,075 Two years earlier. 76 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:50,095 Reports of unspeakable japanese cruelty-- 77 00:03:50,129 --> 00:03:51,579 Torture, crucifixion, 78 00:03:51,597 --> 00:03:53,748 Castration, dismemberment, 79 00:03:53,783 --> 00:03:56,618 Beheading, burning and burying alive, 80 00:03:56,652 --> 00:03:58,136 Vivisection, 81 00:03:58,187 --> 00:03:59,437 Nailing prisoners to trees 82 00:03:59,472 --> 00:04:01,823 And using them for bayonet practice-- 83 00:04:01,857 --> 00:04:03,158 Flooded the media. 84 00:04:03,192 --> 00:04:05,560 Even president truman's bigotry 85 00:04:05,594 --> 00:04:09,431 Long antedated reports of japanese savagery. 86 00:04:09,465 --> 00:04:12,667 As a young man courting his future wife, he wrote... 87 00:04:12,702 --> 00:04:14,502 Truman: I think one man is as good as another, 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,438 So long as he's honest and decent 89 00:04:16,472 --> 00:04:18,289 And not a nigger or a chinaman. 90 00:04:18,324 --> 00:04:19,907 Uncle will says that the lord 91 00:04:19,925 --> 00:04:21,209 Made a white man of dust, 92 00:04:21,243 --> 00:04:23,044 A nigger from mud, 93 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:25,980 Then threw up what was left and it came down a chinaman. 94 00:04:26,015 --> 00:04:28,516 Stone: To be fair, truman was a product 95 00:04:28,551 --> 00:04:29,851 Of his time and place. 96 00:04:29,885 --> 00:04:32,420 His biographer merle miller reported... 97 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:34,906 Miller: Privately, mr. Truman always said 'nigger.' 98 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:37,108 At least he always did when I talked to him. 99 00:04:37,143 --> 00:04:40,061 Stone: This racism prevailed when president roosevelt 100 00:04:40,096 --> 00:04:43,381 In February 1942 signed an executive order 101 00:04:43,416 --> 00:04:47,318 Calling for the evacuation of over 110,000 102 00:04:47,353 --> 00:04:50,255 Japanese and japanese-americans 103 00:04:50,289 --> 00:04:52,924 From california, oregon and washington 104 00:04:52,958 --> 00:04:54,893 On the grounds that they 105 00:04:54,927 --> 00:04:57,729 "represented a threat to national security." 106 00:04:57,763 --> 00:05:01,533 70% of them were american citizens, 107 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:06,354 But still with few defending these citizens' constitutional rights, 108 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:10,408 They were eventually placed in 10 different camps, 109 00:05:10,443 --> 00:05:13,912 Often referred to at the time as concentration camps. 110 00:05:13,946 --> 00:05:15,914 Conditions here were deplorable. 111 00:05:15,948 --> 00:05:18,166 Lacking running water, bathroom facilities, 112 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,934 Decent schools, 113 00:05:19,969 --> 00:05:23,037 Insulated cabins and proper roofs. 114 00:05:23,072 --> 00:05:25,623 They worked under scorching desert sun 115 00:05:25,658 --> 00:05:27,442 For miniscule pay. 116 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:30,462 Evacuees were only allowed to bring what they could carry 117 00:05:30,496 --> 00:05:33,298 And some greedy westerners used the opportunity 118 00:05:33,332 --> 00:05:35,467 To seize their neighbor's properties 119 00:05:35,501 --> 00:05:38,436 At a fraction of their real value. 120 00:05:38,471 --> 00:05:41,506 The japanese lost an estimated $400 million 121 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:43,241 In personal property. 122 00:05:43,275 --> 00:05:45,610 Worth more than $5 billion today. 123 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:50,565 Japanese resoluteness in the face of defeat 124 00:05:50,583 --> 00:05:52,333 Was legendary. 125 00:05:52,368 --> 00:05:55,203 In February and March of 1945, 126 00:05:55,237 --> 00:05:58,189 After five weeks of combat at iwo jima, 127 00:05:58,224 --> 00:06:01,593 Almost 7,000 american sailors and marines 128 00:06:01,627 --> 00:06:04,846 Were killed and over 18,000 wounded. 129 00:06:06,182 --> 00:06:08,867 - Stryker! - Yes, sir? 130 00:06:08,918 --> 00:06:10,668 The colonel has ordered that we put up this flag 131 00:06:10,703 --> 00:06:12,337 As soon as the top is secured. 132 00:06:12,371 --> 00:06:14,789 - Be sure that it gets there. - Aye, aye, sir. 133 00:06:14,823 --> 00:06:16,357 Find something we can use for a standard 134 00:06:16,391 --> 00:06:17,575 And we'll put this up. 135 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:19,894 Even hollywood movie star john wayne 136 00:06:19,929 --> 00:06:21,896 Would fall victim. 137 00:06:23,249 --> 00:06:25,283 Well, conway, I see you made it. 138 00:06:25,334 --> 00:06:27,235 Yeah, I guess that little voice was wrong. 139 00:06:27,253 --> 00:06:28,703 I feel better. 140 00:06:28,737 --> 00:06:30,705 I feel a lot better too. 141 00:06:30,739 --> 00:06:33,241 As a matter of fact, I never felt so good in my life. 142 00:06:33,259 --> 00:06:35,844 - How about a cigarette? - ( gunshot ) 143 00:06:37,930 --> 00:06:42,584 ♪ first to fight for right and freedom ♪ 144 00:06:42,618 --> 00:06:47,455 ♪ then to keep our honor clean, we are... ♪ 145 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:49,574 All right! Saddle up! 146 00:06:49,625 --> 00:06:51,192 Let's get back in the war! 147 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:57,031 ♪ the United States marines. 148 00:06:57,049 --> 00:06:59,701 Stone: At okinawa, the bloodiest battle of the pacific, 149 00:06:59,735 --> 00:07:02,470 Over 12,000 americans were killed or missing 150 00:07:02,505 --> 00:07:04,906 And over 36,000 wounded. 151 00:07:04,940 --> 00:07:07,725 100,000 japanese soldiers 152 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,929 And an equivalent number of okinawan civilians 153 00:07:10,963 --> 00:07:12,263 Were killed. 154 00:07:12,298 --> 00:07:14,299 Many of them committed suicide. 155 00:07:18,304 --> 00:07:20,805 Americans were especially shocked 156 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,408 By the 1,900 kamikaze attacks 157 00:07:23,442 --> 00:07:27,595 Which sank 30 and damaged some 360 naval vessels. 158 00:07:31,467 --> 00:07:33,351 Japanese soldiers fought for the emperor, 159 00:07:33,402 --> 00:07:35,837 Who many worshipped as a god. 160 00:07:35,871 --> 00:07:38,239 They believed that surrender would shame their families, 161 00:07:38,257 --> 00:07:40,174 But that death on the battlefield 162 00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:41,759 Would bring the highest honor. 163 00:07:46,482 --> 00:07:48,233 All military planners agreed 164 00:07:48,267 --> 00:07:50,568 That an invasion would be costly. 165 00:07:51,871 --> 00:07:53,905 But the debate over just how costly 166 00:07:53,939 --> 00:07:55,857 Has raged for decades. 167 00:07:55,891 --> 00:07:57,842 Marshall told truman on June 18th, 168 00:07:57,893 --> 00:08:01,312 He expected no more than 31,000 casualties. 169 00:08:09,371 --> 00:08:12,790 America's moral threshold would be dramatically lowered 170 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:14,709 By world war ii. 171 00:08:14,743 --> 00:08:16,961 Urban area bombing had begun before 172 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:18,663 During the first world war 173 00:08:18,697 --> 00:08:22,000 When the europeans had bombed each others' cities. 174 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:24,886 And to its credit, the u.S. Had strongly condemned 175 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,173 Japanese bombing of chinese cities in 1937. 176 00:08:29,208 --> 00:08:32,343 When the war began in '39, 177 00:08:32,378 --> 00:08:34,145 Roosevelt implored combatants 178 00:08:34,179 --> 00:08:36,898 To refrain from the inhuman barbarism 179 00:08:36,932 --> 00:08:39,701 Involved in bombing defenseless cities. 180 00:08:41,537 --> 00:08:43,705 But by the mid 1940s, 181 00:08:43,739 --> 00:08:46,507 Great cities such as barcelona, madrid, 182 00:08:46,542 --> 00:08:49,027 Shanghai, beijing, nanjing, 183 00:08:49,061 --> 00:08:51,195 Warsaw, london, rotterdam, 184 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:53,398 Moscow, leningrad, budapest, 185 00:08:53,432 --> 00:08:55,617 Vienna, cologne, berlin, 186 00:08:55,651 --> 00:08:58,720 And many others had been severely bombed. 187 00:08:58,754 --> 00:09:02,106 Germany had begun with deadly raids on british cities, 188 00:09:02,141 --> 00:09:05,593 And the british responded with thousand-plane formations 189 00:09:05,628 --> 00:09:07,729 Over urban targets in germany. 190 00:09:08,998 --> 00:09:12,066 When u.S. Air force general curtis lemay 191 00:09:12,101 --> 00:09:15,203 Arrived in England in 1942, 192 00:09:15,237 --> 00:09:17,805 Air force strategy was targeting germany 193 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,991 With precision bombing of key industries 194 00:09:20,025 --> 00:09:24,479 And transportation networks in vast daylight raids. 195 00:09:24,513 --> 00:09:27,482 But the crews were being shot to pieces. 196 00:09:27,516 --> 00:09:28,866 Terrified for their lives, 197 00:09:28,901 --> 00:09:30,935 Many pilots simply aborted their missions 198 00:09:30,986 --> 00:09:32,620 And returned to base. 199 00:09:32,655 --> 00:09:35,156 Morale was at the point of collapse. 200 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:38,793 Lemay issued a severe order to his flyers. 201 00:09:38,827 --> 00:09:41,229 Lemay: Our abort rate is far too high. 202 00:09:41,263 --> 00:09:43,231 The cause of it is fear. 203 00:09:43,265 --> 00:09:45,433 Therefore I will be on the lead plane 204 00:09:45,467 --> 00:09:47,769 In these missions. And any crew that takes off 205 00:09:47,803 --> 00:09:49,570 And doesn't get to the target 206 00:09:49,605 --> 00:09:51,239 Will be court-marshaled. 207 00:09:51,273 --> 00:09:52,256 Attention! 208 00:10:00,599 --> 00:10:02,717 I can tell you now one reason I think 209 00:10:02,751 --> 00:10:04,702 You've been having hard luck. 210 00:10:04,737 --> 00:10:08,639 I saw it in your faces last night. 211 00:10:08,674 --> 00:10:10,742 I see it there now. 212 00:10:10,776 --> 00:10:14,262 You've been looking at a lot of air lately 213 00:10:14,296 --> 00:10:17,532 And you think you ought to have a rest. 214 00:10:17,566 --> 00:10:20,251 In short, you're sorry for yourselves. 215 00:10:20,285 --> 00:10:22,120 Now I don't have a lot of patience 216 00:10:22,154 --> 00:10:23,938 With this what-are- we-fighting-for stuff. 217 00:10:23,972 --> 00:10:26,124 We're in a war, a shooting war. 218 00:10:26,158 --> 00:10:28,142 We've got to fight. 219 00:10:28,177 --> 00:10:30,261 And some of us have got to die. 220 00:10:30,295 --> 00:10:33,398 I'm not trying to tell you not to be afraid. 221 00:10:33,432 --> 00:10:35,616 Fear is normal. 222 00:10:35,650 --> 00:10:37,485 But stop worrying about it 223 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:39,404 And about yourselves. 224 00:10:39,438 --> 00:10:40,621 Stop making plans. 225 00:10:40,656 --> 00:10:42,607 Forget about going home. 226 00:10:42,641 --> 00:10:44,926 Consider yourselves already dead. 227 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,961 Once you accept that idea, 228 00:10:46,995 --> 00:10:48,863 It won't be so tough. 229 00:10:48,897 --> 00:10:52,884 Now if any man here can't buy that, 230 00:10:52,918 --> 00:10:55,236 If he rates himself as something special 231 00:10:55,270 --> 00:10:58,306 With a special kind of hide to be saved, 232 00:10:58,340 --> 00:11:02,260 He'd better make up his mind about it right now. 233 00:11:03,395 --> 00:11:07,832 Because I don't want him in this group. 234 00:11:07,866 --> 00:11:09,917 I'll be in my office in five minutes. 235 00:11:09,952 --> 00:11:12,236 You can see me there. 236 00:11:12,271 --> 00:11:15,123 Stone: The abort rate dropped off to nothing. 237 00:11:15,157 --> 00:11:18,242 But even then, lemay looked to overhaul strategy, 238 00:11:18,293 --> 00:11:22,647 Frustrated with the restrictions of conventional bombing. 239 00:11:22,681 --> 00:11:24,782 His inspiration came from the british, 240 00:11:24,817 --> 00:11:28,319 And especially the notorious sir arthur "bomber" harris 241 00:11:28,353 --> 00:11:30,455 Who made no distinction between military 242 00:11:30,489 --> 00:11:32,390 And civilian targets. 243 00:11:32,424 --> 00:11:34,926 It was harris in February '42 244 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,597 Who masterminded the shift from precise but dangerous daytime bombing 245 00:11:39,631 --> 00:11:43,734 To notoriously imprecise nighttime area bombing raids 246 00:11:43,769 --> 00:11:46,471 That indiscriminately kill civilians. 247 00:11:46,505 --> 00:11:49,273 The u.S. Had in the past balked at such slaughter, 248 00:11:49,308 --> 00:11:52,477 But now round the clock bombing ensued. 249 00:11:52,511 --> 00:11:55,546 British at night, the americans by day. 250 00:11:55,581 --> 00:11:59,083 In July '43, british bombers, including harris, 251 00:11:59,118 --> 00:12:02,620 Destroyed the german city of hamburg, 252 00:12:02,654 --> 00:12:06,357 Creating fires higher than the empire state building. 253 00:12:06,391 --> 00:12:08,676 Lemay felt he could do even better. 254 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:12,697 And in November '43, the u.S. Air force destroyed munster. 255 00:12:12,731 --> 00:12:15,082 It was the beginning of a new war. 256 00:12:18,654 --> 00:12:22,123 On the night of February 13, 1945, 257 00:12:22,157 --> 00:12:24,458 The beautiful baroque city of dresden 258 00:12:24,493 --> 00:12:26,060 On the elbe river, 259 00:12:26,094 --> 00:12:29,680 Packed with refugees fleeing the red army, 260 00:12:29,731 --> 00:12:31,632 Disappeared from the face of the earth. 261 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:34,585 25,000 were killed by british bombers at night, 262 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:38,156 Followed by the u.S. Air force the next morning. 263 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:41,208 The city had little military value. 264 00:12:41,226 --> 00:12:44,128 The cost of allied area bombing in europe 265 00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:46,948 Was vast in terms of men and material, 266 00:12:46,982 --> 00:12:50,618 Representing almost a quarter of the entire british war effort, 267 00:12:50,652 --> 00:12:52,887 And much of the american. 268 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:54,405 But was it worth it? 269 00:12:54,439 --> 00:12:56,607 The bombing slowed the rate of increase 270 00:12:56,642 --> 00:12:58,209 In german armaments production 271 00:12:58,243 --> 00:13:00,461 And took its toll on civilian morale, 272 00:13:00,495 --> 00:13:03,548 Killing more than an estimated half million 273 00:13:03,582 --> 00:13:06,634 German, italian and french civilians. 274 00:13:06,668 --> 00:13:10,888 And it forced the luftwaffe to divert forces 275 00:13:10,939 --> 00:13:13,507 To defend the mainland, making them unavailable 276 00:13:13,525 --> 00:13:15,560 For the soviet front. 277 00:13:15,594 --> 00:13:19,280 But defending itself and repairing damage 278 00:13:19,314 --> 00:13:22,450 May have cost the germans less than the allies spent 279 00:13:22,484 --> 00:13:24,352 To wreak such damage. 280 00:13:24,386 --> 00:13:27,054 Over 79,000 u.S. 281 00:13:27,089 --> 00:13:29,690 And an equal number of british air crew members 282 00:13:29,725 --> 00:13:31,192 Were killed in action. 283 00:13:31,226 --> 00:13:34,795 Even churchill wondered out loud in 1943, 284 00:13:34,830 --> 00:13:36,264 "are we beasts? 285 00:13:36,298 --> 00:13:38,983 Are we taking this too far?" 286 00:13:39,017 --> 00:13:42,937 By mid-April, there was simply nothing worthwhile left 287 00:13:42,971 --> 00:13:45,339 To destroy in germany. 288 00:13:45,374 --> 00:13:46,924 Lemay argued... 289 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:49,260 Lemay: You gotta kill people. And when you kill enough, 290 00:13:49,294 --> 00:13:51,395 They stop fighting. 291 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:54,732 Stone: In late 1944, the man the japanese came to know 292 00:13:54,766 --> 00:13:56,867 As "demon lemay" 293 00:13:56,902 --> 00:13:58,669 Was transferred to the pacific 294 00:13:58,704 --> 00:14:01,138 Where he bombed japanese civilians 295 00:14:01,173 --> 00:14:03,407 With a ferocity never before witnessed 296 00:14:03,442 --> 00:14:05,209 In the annals of war. 297 00:14:05,244 --> 00:14:08,229 More explicit than the british area bombing, 298 00:14:08,263 --> 00:14:11,082 Lemay called it "terror bombing." 299 00:14:13,785 --> 00:14:15,686 In that year, the u.S. Was capturing 300 00:14:15,737 --> 00:14:18,706 More and more japanese-occupied territories, 301 00:14:18,740 --> 00:14:22,576 Bringing japan itself within range of u.S. Bombers. 302 00:14:22,611 --> 00:14:25,913 And on the night of March 9th, 1945, 303 00:14:25,948 --> 00:14:29,183 Lemay sent 330 planes over tokyo, 304 00:14:29,217 --> 00:14:30,751 The imperial capital... 305 00:14:32,621 --> 00:14:34,455 Carrying incendiary bombs, 306 00:14:34,489 --> 00:14:37,191 Consisting of napalm, thermite, 307 00:14:37,225 --> 00:14:38,359 White phosphorous, 308 00:14:38,393 --> 00:14:41,212 And other inflammable material. 309 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:49,487 Tokyo was a thousand-year-old concentration of bamboo and wood. 310 00:14:49,521 --> 00:14:52,590 It was called a paper city. 311 00:14:52,624 --> 00:14:55,593 B-29s destroyed 16 square miles, 312 00:14:55,627 --> 00:14:58,396 Killing up to 100,000 civilians 313 00:14:58,430 --> 00:15:01,882 And leaving an estimated one million homeless. 314 00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:04,869 The scalding inferno caused canals to boil, 315 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,538 Metal to melt, and people to burst 316 00:15:07,589 --> 00:15:10,207 Spontaneously into flames. 317 00:15:10,242 --> 00:15:12,743 The stench of burning flesh was so powerful 318 00:15:12,778 --> 00:15:16,681 That crew members vomited in their planes. 319 00:15:16,715 --> 00:15:20,351 The tokyo raid was to be known as lemay's masterpiece. 320 00:15:20,385 --> 00:15:21,686 He said... 321 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,354 Lemay: To confuse morality 322 00:15:23,388 --> 00:15:25,956 With what we were doing-- nuts. 323 00:15:25,991 --> 00:15:29,093 Stone: The american air force actually firebombed 324 00:15:29,127 --> 00:15:32,113 Up to an estimated 100 japanese cities, 325 00:15:32,147 --> 00:15:34,982 Some of no military significance, 326 00:15:35,017 --> 00:15:38,886 Taking more than an estimated half million lives. 327 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,888 Almost no one objected to the slaughter bombing 328 00:15:40,922 --> 00:15:42,373 Of japanese civilians. 329 00:15:42,424 --> 00:15:44,992 It was, as one brigadier general said, 330 00:15:45,010 --> 00:15:46,861 "one of the most ruthless and barbaric 331 00:15:46,895 --> 00:15:50,247 Killings of non-combatants in all history." 332 00:15:50,298 --> 00:15:55,052 Destruction reached 99.5% in the city of toyama. 333 00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:58,189 Secretary of war henry stimson told truman 334 00:15:58,223 --> 00:16:00,558 He did not want to have the u.S. Get the reputation 335 00:16:00,592 --> 00:16:02,760 Of outdoing hitler in atrocities. 336 00:16:04,246 --> 00:16:07,198 Seeing through the prism of the terrible destruction 337 00:16:07,232 --> 00:16:09,717 Being wrought by lemay's terror bombing, 338 00:16:09,751 --> 00:16:12,370 The atomic bomb can be viewed 339 00:16:12,404 --> 00:16:14,872 As a chilling, if logical, next step. 340 00:16:16,308 --> 00:16:18,159 But as it crept closer, 341 00:16:18,193 --> 00:16:21,245 Many scientists began to squirm. 342 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:23,263 Leo szilard and others 343 00:16:23,281 --> 00:16:25,583 Understood implicitly that this bomb they were building 344 00:16:25,617 --> 00:16:29,203 Was a primitive prototype to what was to follow. 345 00:16:29,237 --> 00:16:33,040 Szilard, nobel prize-winning chemist harold urey, 346 00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:34,775 And astronomer walter bartky 347 00:16:34,810 --> 00:16:36,444 Attempted to see truman 348 00:16:36,478 --> 00:16:38,412 To caution against use of the bomb. 349 00:16:38,447 --> 00:16:40,898 But they were rerouted to south carolina 350 00:16:40,932 --> 00:16:42,500 To speak with byrnes, 351 00:16:42,534 --> 00:16:45,252 Whose response appalled szilard. 352 00:16:45,286 --> 00:16:46,470 Szilard: Mr. Byrnes knew at that time, 353 00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:48,055 As the rest of the government knew, 354 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,391 That japan was essentially defeated. 355 00:16:50,425 --> 00:16:52,293 He was much concerned about the spreading 356 00:16:52,327 --> 00:16:53,761 Of russian influence in europe 357 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:56,397 And that our possessing and demonstrating the bomb 358 00:16:56,431 --> 00:16:58,833 Would make russia more manageable. 359 00:16:58,867 --> 00:17:00,668 Stone: Leslie groves also admitted 360 00:17:00,702 --> 00:17:04,205 That in his mind, russia had always been the enemy. 361 00:17:04,239 --> 00:17:06,140 Groves: There was never, from about two weeks 362 00:17:06,174 --> 00:17:08,409 From the time I took charge of this project, 363 00:17:08,443 --> 00:17:10,411 Any illusion on my part 364 00:17:10,445 --> 00:17:12,279 That russia was our enemy, 365 00:17:12,314 --> 00:17:15,249 And the project was conducted on that basis. 366 00:17:15,283 --> 00:17:18,352 Stone: In June, scientists at chicago's met lab 367 00:17:18,386 --> 00:17:22,189 Drafted a report warning that a nuclear attack on japan 368 00:17:22,224 --> 00:17:25,543 Would not only destroy america's moral position, 369 00:17:25,577 --> 00:17:28,212 But would instigate a nuclear arms race 370 00:17:28,246 --> 00:17:29,547 With the soviet union. 371 00:17:32,717 --> 00:17:36,420 The report also noted that because there was no secret to the bomb, 372 00:17:36,455 --> 00:17:38,906 The soviet union would soon catch up. 373 00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:41,842 When security officers banned its circulation, 374 00:17:41,877 --> 00:17:44,845 Szilard drafted a petition to truman 375 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,250 Signed by 155 project scientists. 376 00:17:49,284 --> 00:17:51,585 But robert oppenheimer barred its circulation 377 00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:53,988 At los alamos and alerted groves, 378 00:17:54,022 --> 00:17:58,058 Who made sure the petition did not reach truman. 379 00:17:58,093 --> 00:18:00,995 Groves' security agents had been conducting 380 00:18:01,029 --> 00:18:03,063 Extensive surveillance of szilard 381 00:18:03,098 --> 00:18:04,565 Throughout the war. 382 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:07,001 And at one point, groves had labeled szilard 383 00:18:07,035 --> 00:18:09,286 An "enemy alien" and requested 384 00:18:09,321 --> 00:18:13,140 That he be interned for the duration of the war. 385 00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:14,859 In may '45, 386 00:18:14,893 --> 00:18:17,461 General marshall supported oppenheimer's suggestion 387 00:18:17,496 --> 00:18:20,998 To share information with soviet scientists. 388 00:18:21,032 --> 00:18:25,553 If not, his proposal to invite soviet observers to the test, 389 00:18:25,587 --> 00:18:29,623 But byrnes in any case vetoed the whole idea. 390 00:18:29,657 --> 00:18:33,160 The bomb's use now seemed inexorable, unstoppable. 391 00:18:33,178 --> 00:18:35,079 And it came to an apocalyptic head 392 00:18:35,113 --> 00:18:36,730 In potsdam in July 393 00:18:36,748 --> 00:18:39,033 Where the big three were discussing the shape 394 00:18:39,067 --> 00:18:41,368 Of the postwar world. 395 00:18:41,403 --> 00:18:44,671 It was the perfect place to reveal the existence of the bomb. 396 00:18:46,741 --> 00:18:50,961 The conference setting was strange and otherworldly. 397 00:18:51,012 --> 00:18:54,915 Soviet troops occupied the wrecked capital of berlin. 398 00:18:54,949 --> 00:18:57,301 Truman had said his primary reason 399 00:18:57,335 --> 00:19:00,838 For going to potsdam was to insure the soviet entry 400 00:19:00,872 --> 00:19:02,856 Into the pacific war, 401 00:19:02,891 --> 00:19:06,460 An assurance that stalin was ready to give again. 402 00:19:06,494 --> 00:19:08,195 Truman wrote in his diary... 403 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:10,864 Truman: He'll be in the jap war on August 15th. 404 00:19:10,899 --> 00:19:12,833 Fini japs when that comes about. 405 00:19:12,867 --> 00:19:16,120 Stone: Allied intelligence concurred, reporting... 406 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:27,214 Yet, it was clear to most that the japanese 407 00:19:27,249 --> 00:19:28,949 Were already finished. 408 00:19:28,984 --> 00:19:30,751 By the end of 1944, 409 00:19:30,785 --> 00:19:33,487 The japanese navy had been decimated, 410 00:19:33,521 --> 00:19:35,155 The air force badly weakened, 411 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:37,942 The railroad transit system in tatters, 412 00:19:37,993 --> 00:19:40,227 The food supply shrunk, 413 00:19:40,245 --> 00:19:42,746 Public morale plummeting. 414 00:19:42,797 --> 00:19:45,699 Upon germany's defeat, the russian army began gathering 415 00:19:45,734 --> 00:19:49,236 In siberia in enormous numbers, preparing to invade 416 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:51,372 Japanese occupied manchuria 417 00:19:51,406 --> 00:19:54,875 In early August of 1945. 418 00:19:54,909 --> 00:19:57,378 In February of that year, prince konoe, 419 00:19:57,412 --> 00:20:00,147 The former prime minister had written to the emperor... 420 00:20:00,181 --> 00:20:02,149 ( speaking japanese ) 421 00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:08,872 Stone: In may, japan's supreme war council decided 422 00:20:08,907 --> 00:20:11,591 To feel out the soviets for peace terms. 423 00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:14,778 They wanted not only to keep the u.S.S.R. Out of their war, 424 00:20:14,829 --> 00:20:18,582 But also to see if the soviets could help secure 425 00:20:18,617 --> 00:20:22,086 Better surrender terms from the americans. 426 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:25,322 This was a delicate negotiation, 427 00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:28,525 But american intelligence had been intercepting 428 00:20:28,576 --> 00:20:31,762 Japanese cables since the start of the war. 429 00:20:31,796 --> 00:20:34,565 And a July 18 cable from tokyo 430 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:37,735 To the japanese ambassador in moscow 431 00:20:37,769 --> 00:20:41,338 Seeking surrender terms said unequivocally, 432 00:20:41,373 --> 00:20:45,242 "unconditional surrender is the only obstacle to peace." 433 00:20:46,511 --> 00:20:49,480 Truman, unambiguously characterized this 434 00:20:49,514 --> 00:20:52,900 As the "telegram from the jap emperor 435 00:20:52,934 --> 00:20:56,103 Asking for peace." 436 00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:57,821 Forrestal noted evidence 437 00:20:57,872 --> 00:21:00,824 Of a japanese desire to get out of the war. 438 00:21:00,859 --> 00:21:04,695 Stimson described japanese maneuverings for peace. 439 00:21:04,729 --> 00:21:08,899 Byrnes pointed to japanese peace feelers. 440 00:21:08,933 --> 00:21:11,635 They all knew the japanese were finished. 441 00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:13,504 The end was near. 442 00:21:13,538 --> 00:21:16,156 And several of truman's close advisors 443 00:21:16,190 --> 00:21:20,110 Urged him to modify the unconditional surrender 444 00:21:20,145 --> 00:21:23,130 To signal that japan could keep its emperor 445 00:21:23,164 --> 00:21:24,415 And speed the end of the war. 446 00:21:26,284 --> 00:21:29,119 To the people, the emperor was a sacred figure, 447 00:21:29,154 --> 00:21:32,256 And the center of their shinto religion. 448 00:21:34,109 --> 00:21:36,610 To see him hanged like mussolini in Italy 449 00:21:36,644 --> 00:21:39,146 Or humiliated in a war trial 450 00:21:39,164 --> 00:21:41,448 Would be more than they could bear. 451 00:21:41,483 --> 00:21:43,350 Macarthur's command reported, 452 00:21:43,384 --> 00:21:45,486 "the hanging of the emperor to them 453 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,274 Would be comparable to the crucifixion of christ to us. 454 00:21:50,308 --> 00:21:53,010 All would fight to die like ants." 455 00:21:56,281 --> 00:22:00,551 But jimmy byrnes told truman that he would be 456 00:22:00,585 --> 00:22:05,155 Crucified politically if the imperial system was retained. 457 00:22:05,206 --> 00:22:07,875 Once again, his advice prevailed. 458 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:10,844 Truman and byrnes believed they had a way to speed 459 00:22:10,879 --> 00:22:13,180 Japanese surrender on american terms 460 00:22:13,214 --> 00:22:15,432 Without soviet help, 461 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:18,302 Thereby denying the u.S.S.R. 462 00:22:18,336 --> 00:22:21,255 The territorial and economic concessions 463 00:22:21,289 --> 00:22:23,557 Promised by roosevelt. 464 00:22:23,591 --> 00:22:26,493 Truman had delayed the start of potsdam 465 00:22:26,528 --> 00:22:28,128 For two weeks, 466 00:22:28,163 --> 00:22:32,599 Giving the scientists time to ready the bomb test. 467 00:22:32,634 --> 00:22:34,201 It worked. 468 00:22:34,235 --> 00:22:36,270 Stimson gave him the news. 469 00:22:36,304 --> 00:22:39,857 The conference began the very next day. 470 00:22:39,891 --> 00:22:42,126 He later read the full report. 471 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,663 The test was terrifying, almost beyond comprehension. 472 00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:50,000 Truman's demeanor changed completely. 473 00:22:50,051 --> 00:22:53,086 Churchill was stunned by the transformation. 474 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:54,805 Churchill: I couldn't understand it. 475 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:56,673 He was a changed man. 476 00:22:56,724 --> 00:23:00,561 He told the russians just where they got on and off 477 00:23:00,595 --> 00:23:03,147 And generally bossed the whole meeting. 478 00:23:03,181 --> 00:23:06,900 Stone: On the 24th of July, truman informed stalin 479 00:23:06,935 --> 00:23:09,436 That the United States was in possession 480 00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:13,040 Of a new weapon of unusual destructive force. 481 00:23:13,074 --> 00:23:16,276 Mr. President, I remember you told stalin at potsdam 482 00:23:16,311 --> 00:23:18,245 That we had the atomic bomb. 483 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:19,780 - Yes. - Did he seem to be impressed 484 00:23:19,814 --> 00:23:22,649 - At that time? - No. I don't think 485 00:23:22,684 --> 00:23:24,418 He quite understood what I was talking about. 486 00:23:24,452 --> 00:23:28,222 I told him that we had discovered a tremendously powerful explosive 487 00:23:28,256 --> 00:23:31,725 And that we proposed to use it to end the war with japan. 488 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:34,061 And he smiled and said that he was very happy to hear it, 489 00:23:34,095 --> 00:23:36,196 Then the conversation ended and I went my way 490 00:23:36,231 --> 00:23:37,498 And he went his. 491 00:23:38,967 --> 00:23:41,401 Stone: But truman was naive in this matter. 492 00:23:41,436 --> 00:23:44,805 Klaus fuchs, a man of ideological conviction 493 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,140 Who was part of the british scientific mission 494 00:23:47,175 --> 00:23:48,475 At alamogordo, 495 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,277 Had delivered technical information 496 00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:54,081 Relating to the bomb to his soviet handlers. 497 00:23:54,115 --> 00:23:57,684 Stalin already knew when the test had been scheduled 498 00:23:57,702 --> 00:24:01,138 And now was being told it had succeeded. 499 00:24:01,172 --> 00:24:03,891 Anthony eden, british foreign secretary, 500 00:24:03,925 --> 00:24:06,009 Noted stalin's response to truman 501 00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:08,896 Was a nod and a muttered "thank you." 502 00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:11,882 Apparently, once he stepped away from the conference, 503 00:24:11,916 --> 00:24:14,751 Stalin called his secret police chief, 504 00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:18,155 Beria, and scolded him for not having told him 505 00:24:18,189 --> 00:24:20,591 Of the success of the test before truman. 506 00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:23,427 Foreign minister andrei gromyko reported 507 00:24:23,461 --> 00:24:25,562 That when stalin returned to his villa, 508 00:24:25,597 --> 00:24:28,765 He remarked that the americans would use their atomic monopoly 509 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,635 Now to dictate terms in europe. 510 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:34,137 But that he wouldn't give in to that blackmail. 511 00:24:34,172 --> 00:24:35,973 He ordered soviet military forces 512 00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:38,575 To speed their entry into the asian war 513 00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:40,844 And he ordered soviet scientists 514 00:24:40,879 --> 00:24:43,130 To pick up the pace of their research. 515 00:24:43,164 --> 00:24:45,048 Truman's behavior at potsdam 516 00:24:45,083 --> 00:24:47,584 Reinforced stalin's belief that the u.S. 517 00:24:47,619 --> 00:24:49,519 Intended to end the war quickly, 518 00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:53,724 And renege on its promised concessions in the pacific. 519 00:24:53,758 --> 00:24:56,193 On July the 25th, truman approved 520 00:24:56,227 --> 00:24:58,862 A directive signed by stimson and marshall 521 00:24:58,897 --> 00:25:01,932 Ordering the atomic bomb to be used against japan 522 00:25:01,966 --> 00:25:04,334 As soon after August 3rd 523 00:25:04,369 --> 00:25:06,670 As the weather permitted. 524 00:25:06,704 --> 00:25:09,606 He and byrnes fully expected the japanese government 525 00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:12,175 To reject the potsdam declaration, 526 00:25:12,210 --> 00:25:15,946 Which failed to give any reassurances about the emperor. 527 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:17,881 The u.S. Even vetoed 528 00:25:17,916 --> 00:25:21,018 Stalin's wish to sign the declaration. 529 00:25:21,052 --> 00:25:24,554 Adding stalin's signature would have signaled the japanese 530 00:25:24,589 --> 00:25:28,759 That the soviet union was about to come into the war. 531 00:25:28,793 --> 00:25:31,161 It was incredibly underhanded behavior 532 00:25:31,195 --> 00:25:33,630 By the u.S. Both towards the japanese 533 00:25:33,665 --> 00:25:35,499 And the u.S.S.R. 534 00:25:35,533 --> 00:25:36,900 While the hours were ticking off 535 00:25:36,935 --> 00:25:39,569 Until the atomic bomb was ready to use, 536 00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:41,972 The absence of a soviet signature 537 00:25:42,006 --> 00:25:44,391 Was encouraging the japanese 538 00:25:44,425 --> 00:25:46,910 To continue their futile diplomatic efforts 539 00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:50,781 Since may of that year to keep the soviets out of the war, 540 00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:52,983 Knowing that the entry of their giant army 541 00:25:53,017 --> 00:25:56,403 Would crush the japanese empire. 542 00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:58,655 Stimson, who had serious misgivings 543 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:02,192 About using the bomb-- referring to it as "the dreadful, 544 00:26:02,226 --> 00:26:04,661 The terrible, the diabolical"-- 545 00:26:04,696 --> 00:26:07,397 Repeatedly tried to convince truman and byrnes 546 00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:10,467 To assure the japanese about the emperor, 547 00:26:10,501 --> 00:26:13,470 But it was an exercise in futility. 548 00:26:13,504 --> 00:26:16,757 When stimson complained to truman about being ignored, 549 00:26:16,791 --> 00:26:20,160 Truman told his elderly, frail secretary of war 550 00:26:20,194 --> 00:26:24,064 That if he didn't like it, he could pack his bags and go home. 551 00:26:24,098 --> 00:26:26,233 Though truman always somewhat proudly 552 00:26:26,267 --> 00:26:28,601 Accepted responsibility for his decision, 553 00:26:28,619 --> 00:26:32,906 Groves, who drafted the final order to drop the bomb, 554 00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:36,243 Contended that truman really didn't decide. 555 00:26:36,277 --> 00:26:37,644 Groves: As far as I was concerned, 556 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,514 His decision was one of non-interference. 557 00:26:40,548 --> 00:26:45,352 Basically, a decision not to upset the existing plans. 558 00:26:45,386 --> 00:26:49,723 Truman did not so much say "yes," as not say "no." 559 00:26:49,757 --> 00:26:53,560 Stone: He described truman scornfully as a little boy on a toboggan. 560 00:26:55,897 --> 00:26:59,182 Truman's attitude in all this was puzzling. 561 00:26:59,217 --> 00:27:01,334 Though at times treating the bomb as a poker hand 562 00:27:01,369 --> 00:27:03,737 To hold over stalin's head, 563 00:27:03,755 --> 00:27:07,407 He also understood that it was really a sword of damocles 564 00:27:07,442 --> 00:27:10,193 Hanging over all humanity. 565 00:27:10,228 --> 00:27:12,329 He wrote in his potsdam diary... 566 00:27:12,363 --> 00:27:14,664 Truman: We have discovered the most terrible bomb 567 00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:16,600 In the history of the world. 568 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:18,602 It may be the fire destruction 569 00:27:18,636 --> 00:27:21,338 Prophesied in the euphrates valley era, 570 00:27:21,372 --> 00:27:24,074 After noah and his fabulous ark. 571 00:27:24,108 --> 00:27:27,010 Stone: Six of america's seven five-star officers 572 00:27:27,061 --> 00:27:29,696 Who received their final star in world war ii 573 00:27:29,731 --> 00:27:32,749 Declared the bomb morally reprehensible, 574 00:27:32,784 --> 00:27:34,985 Militarily unnecessary 575 00:27:35,019 --> 00:27:36,153 Or both. 576 00:27:36,187 --> 00:27:38,088 Eisenhower said... 577 00:27:38,122 --> 00:27:39,456 Eisenhower: So then stimson told me 578 00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:42,225 They were going to drop it on the japanese. 579 00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:45,028 I listened. I didn't volunteer anything 580 00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:48,448 Because after all, my war was over in europe 581 00:27:48,466 --> 00:27:51,001 And it wasn't up to me. 582 00:27:51,035 --> 00:27:53,653 But I was against it on two counts. 583 00:27:53,688 --> 00:27:56,590 First, the japanese were ready to surrender, 584 00:27:56,624 --> 00:28:01,094 And it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. 585 00:28:01,128 --> 00:28:03,630 Second, I hated to see our country 586 00:28:03,664 --> 00:28:07,284 Be the first to use such a weapon. 587 00:28:07,318 --> 00:28:11,805 Stone: General macarthur, supreme commander of allied forces in the pacific, 588 00:28:11,823 --> 00:28:14,241 Considered the bomb completely unnecessary 589 00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:16,877 From a military point of view. 590 00:28:16,911 --> 00:28:20,046 He later said that the japanese would have surrendered in may 591 00:28:20,081 --> 00:28:23,917 If the u.S. Had told them they could keep the emperor. 592 00:28:23,951 --> 00:28:25,685 Opposition was sufficiently known 593 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,355 That groves imposed a requirement 594 00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:30,423 That u.S. Commanders in the field 595 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,892 Clear all statements on the bombings 596 00:28:32,910 --> 00:28:34,394 With the war department. 597 00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:37,230 After three years of the highest tension-- 598 00:28:37,265 --> 00:28:39,366 Groves: We didn't want macarthur and others saying 599 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,035 The war could have been won without the bomb. 600 00:28:42,069 --> 00:28:45,222 Stone: Ironically, shortly after the war was over, 601 00:28:45,256 --> 00:28:48,024 General curtis "demon" lemay said... 602 00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:50,026 Lemay: Even without the atomic bomb 603 00:28:50,061 --> 00:28:52,229 And the russian entry into the war, 604 00:28:52,263 --> 00:28:55,298 Japan would have surrendered in two weeks. 605 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:56,967 The atomic bomb had nothing to do 606 00:28:57,001 --> 00:28:58,168 With the end of the war. 607 00:29:01,405 --> 00:29:04,774 Stone: The target committee had selected a number of sites 608 00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:08,094 On the japanese mainland. 609 00:29:08,129 --> 00:29:09,846 Stimson removed kyoto, 610 00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:13,266 The ancient cultural capital, which was spared its fate 611 00:29:13,301 --> 00:29:15,969 Over the strong opposition of groves. 612 00:29:16,003 --> 00:29:20,140 It was the city of hiroshima that was decided upon. 613 00:29:20,174 --> 00:29:22,209 It had been deliberately left undamaged 614 00:29:22,243 --> 00:29:24,544 By lemay's bombers. 615 00:29:24,579 --> 00:29:27,214 Here the u.S. Could showcase its new weapon. 616 00:29:34,455 --> 00:29:37,224 On August 6th at 2:45 a.M., 617 00:29:37,258 --> 00:29:40,627 Three b-29s took off from the island of tinian 618 00:29:40,661 --> 00:29:42,562 For japan. 619 00:29:42,597 --> 00:29:44,898 The lead plane, the enola gay, 620 00:29:44,932 --> 00:29:48,869 Carried the uranium bomb little boy. 621 00:29:48,903 --> 00:29:52,138 Pilot paul tibbets named the plane 622 00:29:52,156 --> 00:29:54,107 After his mother. 623 00:29:54,141 --> 00:29:57,010 Six and a half hours later, the enola gay 624 00:29:57,044 --> 00:29:58,879 Came into sight of its target. 625 00:29:58,913 --> 00:30:01,314 The doomed city lay quiet 626 00:30:01,349 --> 00:30:04,251 In the flooding early morning sunshine. 627 00:30:04,285 --> 00:30:06,970 Hiroshima's 300,000 civilians, 628 00:30:07,004 --> 00:30:08,705 43,000 soldiers, 629 00:30:08,739 --> 00:30:12,192 And 45,000 korean slave laborers 630 00:30:12,226 --> 00:30:15,512 Were just beginning their day. 631 00:30:15,546 --> 00:30:18,848 The target was a bridge near the center of the city. 632 00:30:21,085 --> 00:30:23,403 At 8:15, right on schedule, 633 00:30:23,437 --> 00:30:26,456 The giant plane went into its bombing run 634 00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:28,274 At 31,000 feet, 635 00:30:28,292 --> 00:30:30,744 Speed 330 miles per hour. 636 00:30:39,570 --> 00:30:42,439 As the bomb was released, the plane twisted violently 637 00:30:42,473 --> 00:30:45,642 To get as far as possible from the blast. 638 00:30:48,329 --> 00:30:50,964 At the last minute, a gust of wind blew the bomb 639 00:30:50,998 --> 00:30:53,300 Carrying it toward shima hospital 640 00:30:53,334 --> 00:30:54,951 At one end of the bridge. 641 00:30:54,986 --> 00:30:59,155 The bomb fell almost five miles to 2,000 feet 642 00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:01,992 And then the two masses of uranium 643 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,110 Came together at lightning speed 644 00:31:04,145 --> 00:31:05,946 And turned to energy. 645 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:16,456 The plane, now nine miles away 646 00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:18,591 Was battered by the shockwave. 647 00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:20,460 The fireball expanded outward 648 00:31:20,494 --> 00:31:23,847 Enveloping the densely populated center of the city. 649 00:31:23,881 --> 00:31:26,049 Its intense heat and blast 650 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,934 Driving outward to shatter buildings 651 00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:30,069 And ignite all debris. 652 00:31:30,087 --> 00:31:32,806 The bomb totally destroyed an area 653 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,494 Extending approximately 1.2 miles in all directions. 654 00:31:40,514 --> 00:31:42,065 An hour and a half later, 655 00:31:42,116 --> 00:31:44,601 From almost 400 miles away, 656 00:31:44,635 --> 00:31:48,538 The crew could look back and still see the mushroom cloud 657 00:31:48,572 --> 00:31:53,143 Rearing up to 40,000 feet or more. 658 00:31:53,177 --> 00:31:58,348 At the hypocenter where temperatures reached 5,400° fahrenheit, 659 00:31:58,382 --> 00:32:02,218 The fireball roasted people to bundles of smoking black char 660 00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:06,790 In a fraction of a second as their internal organs boiled away. 661 00:32:06,824 --> 00:32:09,125 Tens of thousands were killed instantly. 662 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,763 An estimated 140,000 were dead by the end of the year 663 00:32:13,798 --> 00:32:17,767 And 200,000 by 1950. 664 00:32:17,802 --> 00:32:22,706 The u.S. Officially reported only 3,243 665 00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:25,475 Japanese troops killed. 666 00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:28,978 Among the casualties were 23 american prisoners of war. 667 00:32:29,013 --> 00:32:31,715 Some of whom survived the blast 668 00:32:31,749 --> 00:32:35,185 Only to be beaten to death by bomb survivors. 669 00:32:35,236 --> 00:32:38,471 When the bomb had exploded at hiroshima, 670 00:32:38,506 --> 00:32:42,809 Truman, aboard the augusta, had gone from one crew member to another 671 00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:45,878 Telling them the great news like a town crier. 672 00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:48,848 Truman: This is the greatest thing in history. 673 00:32:48,882 --> 00:32:50,934 Stone: Responding to this, 674 00:32:50,968 --> 00:32:54,554 Catholic layworker and pacifist dorothy day wrote... 675 00:32:54,588 --> 00:32:58,892 Day: We have killed 318,000 japanese. 676 00:32:58,926 --> 00:33:01,428 Mr. Truman was jubilant. 677 00:33:01,462 --> 00:33:04,564 President truman-- true man. 678 00:33:04,598 --> 00:33:07,567 What a strange name, come to think of it. 679 00:33:07,601 --> 00:33:10,804 We refer to jesus christ as true god 680 00:33:10,838 --> 00:33:12,138 And true man. 681 00:33:12,172 --> 00:33:15,158 Truman is a true man of his time 682 00:33:15,192 --> 00:33:18,328 In that he was jubilant. 683 00:33:18,362 --> 00:33:22,248 Stone: But the japanese did not surrender. 684 00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:25,585 Stalin, honoring his pledge to roosevelt 685 00:33:25,619 --> 00:33:28,154 And having now moved one and a half million men 686 00:33:28,189 --> 00:33:32,058 To the eastern front, attacked japan on August 9th 687 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,961 On three fronts in manchuria. 688 00:33:34,995 --> 00:33:36,663 The fighting was bloody. 689 00:33:43,154 --> 00:33:46,256 The kwantung army was practically obliterated. 690 00:33:46,290 --> 00:33:51,561 Estimates range up to 700,000 japanese killed, wounded and captured. 691 00:33:51,595 --> 00:33:54,214 Stalin also attacked in korea 692 00:33:54,248 --> 00:33:57,016 And in the kuril islands and sakhalin island. 693 00:34:00,454 --> 00:34:04,224 This enormous event has been mostly forgotten to history, 694 00:34:04,258 --> 00:34:07,227 Because later that morning on August 9, 695 00:34:07,261 --> 00:34:09,395 Before japan had time to react 696 00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:11,214 To the soviet invasion, 697 00:34:11,248 --> 00:34:13,483 The United States dropped its second bomb, 698 00:34:13,517 --> 00:34:18,421 An implosive plutonium bomb nicknamed "fat man," 699 00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:19,756 On the city of nagasaki. 700 00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:29,582 Exploding ironically over the largest catholic cathedral 701 00:34:29,617 --> 00:34:33,386 In asia, with a force of 22 kilotons, 702 00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,573 40,000 died immediately. 703 00:34:36,607 --> 00:34:39,309 Of them, 250 soldiers. 704 00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:44,597 Henry wallace wrote of truman and byrnes 705 00:34:44,632 --> 00:34:46,533 In his diary on August 10th, 706 00:34:46,567 --> 00:34:49,135 One day after nagasaki... 707 00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:52,338 Wallace: It is obvious that the attitude of truman, byrnes, 708 00:34:52,373 --> 00:34:54,741 And both the war and navy departments 709 00:34:54,775 --> 00:34:57,560 Will make for war eventually. 710 00:34:57,611 --> 00:34:59,996 Stone: Yet neither the announcement of nagasaki 711 00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:03,066 Or army minister anami's fallacious report 712 00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:06,536 That the u.S. Had 100 more atomic bombs 713 00:35:06,570 --> 00:35:11,341 Moved tokyo any closer to surrendering unconditionally. 714 00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:13,159 After all, japanese cities 715 00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:16,462 Were being wiped out all through 1945. 716 00:35:16,497 --> 00:35:19,032 200 planes and thousands of bombs 717 00:35:19,066 --> 00:35:20,567 Or one plane and one bomb-- 718 00:35:20,601 --> 00:35:22,902 It didn't seem to make a noticeable difference. 719 00:35:22,937 --> 00:35:26,172 For japanese leaders, the devastating news on August 9 720 00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:30,043 Was the soviet invasion. 721 00:35:30,077 --> 00:35:33,062 Nagasaki was just one more city that was destroyed. 722 00:35:34,615 --> 00:35:37,784 But the red army easily overwhelming japanese forces 723 00:35:37,818 --> 00:35:39,852 In their richest colony, 724 00:35:39,887 --> 00:35:42,121 The puppet state of manchukuo, 725 00:35:42,156 --> 00:35:43,690 Was cause for alarm. 726 00:35:49,296 --> 00:35:52,665 General kawabe, the army deputy chief of staff 727 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:54,467 Explained... 728 00:35:54,501 --> 00:35:57,403 Kawabe: It was only in a gradual manner 729 00:35:57,438 --> 00:35:59,872 That the horrible wreckage which had been made 730 00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:02,475 Of hiroshima became known. 731 00:36:02,509 --> 00:36:05,745 In comparison, the soviet entry 732 00:36:05,779 --> 00:36:08,414 Into the war was a great shock, 733 00:36:08,449 --> 00:36:11,484 Because we had been in constant fear of it 734 00:36:11,518 --> 00:36:14,153 With a vivid imagination that the vast 735 00:36:14,188 --> 00:36:16,656 Red army forces in europe 736 00:36:16,690 --> 00:36:19,259 Were now being turned against us. 737 00:36:21,595 --> 00:36:23,563 Stone: Prime minister suzuki said... 738 00:36:23,597 --> 00:36:26,499 Suzuki: Japan must surrender immediately 739 00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:30,620 Or the soviet union will take not only manchuria, 740 00:36:30,654 --> 00:36:34,824 Korea, karafuto, but also hokkaido. 741 00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:38,795 This would destroy the foundation of japan. 742 00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:41,314 We must end the war 743 00:36:41,348 --> 00:36:44,834 When we can deal with the u.S. 744 00:36:44,868 --> 00:36:48,721 Stone: A top secret study done in January 1946 745 00:36:48,756 --> 00:36:51,207 By the intelligence staff of the war department's 746 00:36:51,258 --> 00:36:54,177 Operations division concludes... 747 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,399 Not only would the soviets destroy their empire, 748 00:37:16,433 --> 00:37:18,284 But they would have no qualms 749 00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:20,970 About destroying the emperor himself. 750 00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:24,023 After all, they murdered their own emperor in 1918. 751 00:37:42,376 --> 00:37:44,694 On August 14th, five days after 752 00:37:44,728 --> 00:37:47,897 The second bomb was dropped at nagasaki, 753 00:37:47,931 --> 00:37:50,333 And with desperate fighting still raging 754 00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:53,302 Against the soviets, emperor hirohito 755 00:37:53,337 --> 00:37:55,638 Now exerted his personal power. 756 00:37:55,673 --> 00:37:58,241 For centuries, the japanese emperors 757 00:37:58,275 --> 00:38:00,376 Had lived without contact with their people, 758 00:38:00,411 --> 00:38:02,545 Revered as divine beings. 759 00:38:02,579 --> 00:38:04,764 But now, hirohito, 760 00:38:04,798 --> 00:38:08,201 Speaking to the japanese people directly, 761 00:38:08,235 --> 00:38:10,336 Ordered surrender over the radio. 762 00:38:10,371 --> 00:38:12,572 ( hirohito speaking japanese ) 763 00:38:14,441 --> 00:38:15,641 Stone: It was the first time 764 00:38:15,676 --> 00:38:18,111 Most of them had heard the voice of god. 765 00:38:26,686 --> 00:38:28,771 Macarthur: Let us pray that peace 766 00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:32,375 Be now restored to the world 767 00:38:32,409 --> 00:38:35,628 And that god will preserve it 768 00:38:35,662 --> 00:38:37,880 Always. 769 00:38:37,915 --> 00:38:42,552 These proceedings are closed. 770 00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:45,021 Stone: The horrors and bloodshed of world war ii 771 00:38:45,055 --> 00:38:48,558 Coarsened a lot of people to the suffering of others. 772 00:38:48,609 --> 00:38:51,694 Freeman dyson, the renowned future physicist 773 00:38:51,729 --> 00:38:53,629 Who was part of the tiger force fleet 774 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:57,467 Of 300 british bombers explained... 775 00:38:57,501 --> 00:38:59,335 Dyson: I found this continuing slaughter 776 00:38:59,369 --> 00:39:00,703 Of defenseless japanese 777 00:39:00,738 --> 00:39:04,574 Even more sickening than the slaughter of germans, 778 00:39:04,608 --> 00:39:06,709 But still I did not quit. 779 00:39:06,744 --> 00:39:09,512 By that time, I had been at war so long 780 00:39:09,546 --> 00:39:12,849 That I could hardly remember peace. 781 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:14,734 No living poet had words 782 00:39:14,768 --> 00:39:17,203 To describe that emptiness of the soul 783 00:39:17,237 --> 00:39:20,189 Which allowed me to go on killing without hatred 784 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,408 And without remorse. 785 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,527 But shakespeare understood it. 786 00:39:24,578 --> 00:39:26,579 And he gave macbeth the words... 787 00:39:41,695 --> 00:39:45,681 Stone: In that spirit, 85% of the american public, 788 00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:48,067 Convinced that the bombs had ended the war, 789 00:39:48,101 --> 00:39:50,503 Applauded their use. 790 00:39:50,521 --> 00:39:52,505 Murrow: When the bomb was dropped, 791 00:39:52,539 --> 00:39:56,726 The war was near to ending anyway. 792 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,511 Was this the result of a miscalculation 793 00:39:58,545 --> 00:40:02,248 Of the japanese potential? Was our intelligence faulty in this area? 794 00:40:02,282 --> 00:40:06,853 It was done on the theory that the-- 795 00:40:06,887 --> 00:40:10,590 Our troops were expecting to invade japan 796 00:40:10,624 --> 00:40:12,175 In a very short time, 797 00:40:12,226 --> 00:40:13,726 And it was estimated that it would take 798 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,512 About a million and a half men to make that invasion, 799 00:40:16,563 --> 00:40:19,482 And in all probability there'd be a half a million of them of casualties 800 00:40:19,516 --> 00:40:22,285 And 250,000 of them killed. 801 00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:24,587 And we had this powerful new weapon. 802 00:40:24,621 --> 00:40:27,256 I had no qualms about using it, 803 00:40:27,291 --> 00:40:30,359 Because a weapon of war 804 00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:32,261 Is a destructive weapon. 805 00:40:32,296 --> 00:40:33,796 That's the reason none of us want war 806 00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:35,531 And all of us are against war. 807 00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,934 But when you have the weapon that will win the war, 808 00:40:37,968 --> 00:40:40,069 You'd be foolish if you didn't use it. 809 00:40:41,705 --> 00:40:44,273 Stone: Truman's estimates of american casualties 810 00:40:44,324 --> 00:40:46,642 Kept climbing as the years went by. 811 00:41:07,598 --> 00:41:10,600 Almost 50 years later, in 1991, 812 00:41:10,634 --> 00:41:13,636 President george bush praised truman's 813 00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:15,471 "tough calculating decision 814 00:41:15,505 --> 00:41:18,474 Which spared millions of american lives." 815 00:41:21,078 --> 00:41:23,112 Controversy over the atomic bombings 816 00:41:23,146 --> 00:41:25,514 Continued to roil american society. 817 00:41:25,549 --> 00:41:27,183 Protests by the american legion, 818 00:41:27,217 --> 00:41:29,118 The air force association 819 00:41:29,152 --> 00:41:30,987 And congressional conservatives 820 00:41:31,021 --> 00:41:34,257 Forced the smithsonian air and space museum 821 00:41:34,291 --> 00:41:37,627 To cancel a 1995 exhibit on the bombings. 822 00:41:40,697 --> 00:41:42,932 Young second lieutenant paul fussell, 823 00:41:42,966 --> 00:41:45,067 Who was in the pacific at the time of the bombing, 824 00:41:45,102 --> 00:41:49,589 Published "thank god for the atom bomb" in 1988 825 00:41:49,623 --> 00:41:51,157 In which he wrote... 826 00:41:51,191 --> 00:41:54,226 Fussell: For all the fake manliness of our facades, 827 00:41:54,261 --> 00:41:56,646 We cried with relief and joy. 828 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,547 We were going to live. 829 00:41:58,582 --> 00:42:02,752 We were going to grow up to adulthood after all. 830 00:42:02,786 --> 00:42:05,571 Stone: Like millions of others of his generation, 831 00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,306 And millions since, 832 00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:09,976 Fussell was convinced that truman and the bomb 833 00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:13,229 Saved them from invading japan. 834 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,980 But attributing victory to the bomb 835 00:42:14,998 --> 00:42:16,966 In a sense insults the memory 836 00:42:17,017 --> 00:42:20,236 Of the many men and women who gave their lives 837 00:42:20,270 --> 00:42:23,572 To defeat the japanese year by grinding year. 838 00:42:26,393 --> 00:42:28,711 Robert oppenheimer met with henry wallace 839 00:42:28,745 --> 00:42:30,579 Shortly after the war, 840 00:42:30,614 --> 00:42:32,715 Deeply worried at the eventual slaughter 841 00:42:32,749 --> 00:42:34,850 Of tens of millions. 842 00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:37,086 Earlier that year, he informed 843 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,055 Top military and civilian leaders 844 00:42:39,089 --> 00:42:40,723 That within three years, 845 00:42:40,757 --> 00:42:42,258 The u.S. Would likely have weapons 846 00:42:42,292 --> 00:42:45,962 Up to 7,000 times as powerful as the bomb 847 00:42:46,013 --> 00:42:47,763 That would destroy hiroshima. 848 00:42:48,966 --> 00:42:50,916 He proposed international control 849 00:42:50,934 --> 00:42:54,353 Of the atomic technology to assuage soviet fears 850 00:42:54,388 --> 00:42:56,555 Over u.S. Intentions. 851 00:42:56,589 --> 00:42:58,741 Wallace wrote in his diary... 852 00:42:58,775 --> 00:43:01,544 Wallace: The guilt consciousness of atomic scientists 853 00:43:01,578 --> 00:43:05,414 Is one of the most astounding things I have ever seen. 854 00:43:05,449 --> 00:43:07,016 Stone: He agreed with oppenheimer. 855 00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:09,418 What was needed was an olive branch. 856 00:43:09,453 --> 00:43:12,355 And it came from the most unexpected quarter. 857 00:43:12,406 --> 00:43:14,640 Henry stimson, "the colonel," 858 00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:16,776 Was a true old soldier, 859 00:43:16,810 --> 00:43:20,696 But he was terrified by the forces he'd helped unleash, 860 00:43:20,731 --> 00:43:23,449 And now wanted to put the genie back in the bottle. 861 00:43:23,483 --> 00:43:26,118 In early September, stimson sent a memo 862 00:43:26,153 --> 00:43:28,320 To truman saying that the soviets 863 00:43:28,355 --> 00:43:30,256 Should be treated as allies. 864 00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:32,992 Stimson: If we have this weapon rather ostentatiously 865 00:43:33,026 --> 00:43:35,244 On our hip, their suspicions 866 00:43:35,295 --> 00:43:37,913 And their distrust of our purposes and motives 867 00:43:37,964 --> 00:43:40,049 Will increase. The chief lesson 868 00:43:40,083 --> 00:43:42,251 That I have learned in a long life 869 00:43:42,302 --> 00:43:45,137 Is that the only way you can make a man trustworthy 870 00:43:45,172 --> 00:43:46,589 Is to trust him. 871 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,392 And the surest way to make him untrustworthy 872 00:43:49,426 --> 00:43:52,711 Is to distrust him and show your distrust. 873 00:43:52,729 --> 00:43:55,681 Stone: He proposed that the u.S. Dismantle its atomic bombs 874 00:43:55,716 --> 00:43:59,218 If the soviets agreed that both countries would ban 875 00:43:59,252 --> 00:44:00,553 Atomic weapons research. 876 00:44:00,587 --> 00:44:02,888 And thus submit to an international 877 00:44:02,923 --> 00:44:05,207 System of control. 878 00:44:05,242 --> 00:44:09,228 Truman devoted the historic September 21, 1945, 879 00:44:09,246 --> 00:44:12,214 Cabinet meeting-- stimson's last-- 880 00:44:12,265 --> 00:44:14,216 To discuss his proposal. 881 00:44:14,267 --> 00:44:16,552 Wallace allied himself with stimson, 882 00:44:16,603 --> 00:44:19,105 Indicating the absurdity of trying to keep 883 00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:22,191 - An atomic monopoly. - Wallace: I then went at some length 884 00:44:22,242 --> 00:44:24,794 Into the whole scientific background, 885 00:44:24,828 --> 00:44:27,730 Describing how foreign jewish scientists 886 00:44:27,764 --> 00:44:29,365 Had in the first place 887 00:44:29,399 --> 00:44:32,835 Sold the president in the fall of 1939. 888 00:44:32,869 --> 00:44:35,237 I indicated the degree to which the whole approach 889 00:44:35,272 --> 00:44:36,906 Had originated in europe, 890 00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:40,025 And that it was impossible to bottle the thing up, 891 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:42,328 No matter how much we tried. 892 00:44:42,362 --> 00:44:45,931 Stone: With byrnes away in london, navy secretary james forrestal 893 00:44:45,965 --> 00:44:48,651 Argued that the soviets could not be trusted. 894 00:44:48,685 --> 00:44:50,803 "the russians," he said, "like the japanese, 895 00:44:50,821 --> 00:44:53,856 Are essentially oriental in their thinking." 896 00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:57,059 The cabinet split sharply over stimson's proposal 897 00:44:57,110 --> 00:44:58,861 Which would have put the United States 898 00:44:58,895 --> 00:45:02,465 Squarely on the side of wanting world peace. 899 00:45:02,499 --> 00:45:05,201 But truman vacillated and ultimately yielded 900 00:45:05,235 --> 00:45:09,071 To the byrnes-forrestal hardline faction. 901 00:45:09,106 --> 00:45:13,058 The feared, and potentially suicidal arms race, 902 00:45:13,093 --> 00:45:14,560 Would continue. 903 00:45:14,594 --> 00:45:17,029 When truman finally met with robert oppenheimer 904 00:45:17,063 --> 00:45:18,731 In October 1945, 905 00:45:18,765 --> 00:45:21,033 He asked him to guess when the russians 906 00:45:21,067 --> 00:45:23,035 Would develop their own atomic bomb. 907 00:45:23,069 --> 00:45:25,371 Oppenheimer did not know. 908 00:45:25,405 --> 00:45:29,108 Truman responded that he knew the answer: "never." 909 00:45:29,142 --> 00:45:32,244 Clearly surprised by the president's truculent ignorance 910 00:45:32,279 --> 00:45:34,580 And frustrated that he did not understand 911 00:45:34,614 --> 00:45:37,583 The seriousness of the evolving crisis, 912 00:45:37,617 --> 00:45:39,919 Oppenheimer blurted out, "mr. President, 913 00:45:39,953 --> 00:45:42,254 I feel I have blood on my hands." 914 00:45:42,289 --> 00:45:44,123 Truman responded with anger. 915 00:45:44,157 --> 00:45:46,258 Truman: I told him the blood was on my hands 916 00:45:46,293 --> 00:45:48,527 And to let me worry about that. 917 00:45:48,562 --> 00:45:51,263 Stone: Afterwards, truman told dean acheson... 918 00:45:51,298 --> 00:45:52,798 Truman: I don't want to see that son of a bitch 919 00:45:52,833 --> 00:45:56,068 In this office ever again. 920 00:45:56,102 --> 00:45:59,338 Stone: Oppenheimer was later attacked by right-wing conservatives 921 00:45:59,372 --> 00:46:01,407 As an agent of the soviet union, 922 00:46:01,441 --> 00:46:03,676 And subjected to numerous investigations 923 00:46:03,710 --> 00:46:05,411 By the f.B.I. 924 00:46:05,445 --> 00:46:09,615 In 1954, his security clearance was revoked. 925 00:46:09,649 --> 00:46:12,685 His real crime in the eyes of american authorities 926 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,688 Was opposing building the new hydrogen bomb, 927 00:46:15,722 --> 00:46:18,591 Which he considered a weapon of genocide. 928 00:46:20,961 --> 00:46:24,547 Contrary to the belief of truman's inner circle, 929 00:46:24,598 --> 00:46:26,565 The dropping of the atomic bombs 930 00:46:26,583 --> 00:46:28,701 On hiroshima and nagasaki 931 00:46:28,735 --> 00:46:31,036 Did not make the soviet union 932 00:46:31,054 --> 00:46:32,037 Any more pliable. 933 00:46:34,925 --> 00:46:37,643 Soviet forces occupied the northern half 934 00:46:37,677 --> 00:46:39,228 Of the korean peninsula, 935 00:46:39,262 --> 00:46:42,364 Left face to face with u.S. Forces in the south. 936 00:46:42,399 --> 00:46:45,117 Korea would later become a major flash point 937 00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:47,853 In the cold war that would engulf the world 938 00:46:47,888 --> 00:46:50,155 For another 50 years. 939 00:46:51,508 --> 00:46:53,425 But on a far larger scale, 940 00:46:53,443 --> 00:46:57,062 The bombing haunted the soviet imagination. 941 00:46:57,096 --> 00:46:59,865 Future foreign minister andrei gromyko's son 942 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:03,002 Anatoly recalled his father telling him that 943 00:47:03,036 --> 00:47:07,122 Hiroshima set the heads of the soviet military spinning. 944 00:47:07,157 --> 00:47:09,541 The mood in the kremlin was neurotic. 945 00:47:09,576 --> 00:47:12,378 The mistrust towards the allies grew quickly. 946 00:47:12,412 --> 00:47:14,613 Opinions floated around to preserve 947 00:47:14,631 --> 00:47:17,750 A large land army to establish control 948 00:47:17,784 --> 00:47:19,885 Over extended territories 949 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,706 To lessen potential losses from another atomic bombing. 950 00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:27,409 And in what many consider a cruel irony, 951 00:47:27,444 --> 00:47:30,896 The japanese were allowed after all to keep the emperor, 952 00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:34,366 Whose retention most experts believed essential 953 00:47:34,401 --> 00:47:37,970 To postwar stability in japan. 954 00:47:38,004 --> 00:47:40,706 Truman suffered no political repercussions 955 00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:42,441 From this decision. 956 00:47:42,475 --> 00:47:43,842 Murrow: How did you manage it? How did you keep 957 00:47:43,877 --> 00:47:47,179 Your equilibrium? How did you sleep at night? 958 00:47:47,213 --> 00:47:49,481 No trouble sleeping at night. 959 00:47:49,516 --> 00:47:51,250 All my life, whenever it comes time 960 00:47:51,284 --> 00:47:52,985 To make a decision, I make it. 961 00:47:53,019 --> 00:47:55,921 And forget about it and go to work on something else. 962 00:47:55,956 --> 00:47:58,190 Murrow: Do you have any reason to think, in historical terms, 963 00:47:58,224 --> 00:48:00,059 That this new and terrible hydrogen weapon 964 00:48:00,093 --> 00:48:01,660 Will not be used? 965 00:48:01,695 --> 00:48:03,395 I hope it'll never have to be used, 966 00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:05,197 Because I hope we'll keep the peace in the world 967 00:48:05,231 --> 00:48:06,865 And it won't be necessary. 968 00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:09,468 If the world ever gets into turmoil, however, 969 00:48:09,502 --> 00:48:12,004 It will be used. You can be sure of that. 970 00:48:12,038 --> 00:48:13,989 Stone: As truman anticipated, 971 00:48:14,024 --> 00:48:17,726 The process he unleashed did indeed threaten 972 00:48:17,761 --> 00:48:20,796 The future existence of life on this planet. 973 00:48:20,830 --> 00:48:22,748 Even pugnacious winston churchill 974 00:48:22,782 --> 00:48:24,683 Had moral qualms. 975 00:48:24,718 --> 00:48:27,536 When he visited truman towards the end of his presidency, 976 00:48:27,570 --> 00:48:29,672 Margaret, the president's daughter, 977 00:48:29,706 --> 00:48:31,674 Described the scene. 978 00:48:31,708 --> 00:48:33,809 Margaret: Everyone was in an ebullient mood, 979 00:48:33,843 --> 00:48:35,344 Especially dad. 980 00:48:35,378 --> 00:48:38,147 Without warning, mr. Churchill turned to him and said... 981 00:48:38,181 --> 00:48:41,617 Churchill: Mr. President, I hope you have your answer ready 982 00:48:41,651 --> 00:48:45,354 For that hour when you and I stand before st. Peter 983 00:48:45,388 --> 00:48:48,891 And he says, "I understand you two 984 00:48:48,925 --> 00:48:52,761 Are responsible for putting off those atomic bombs. 985 00:48:52,796 --> 00:48:55,998 What have you got to say for yourselves?" 986 00:48:57,450 --> 00:48:59,451 Stone: Although harry truman left office 987 00:48:59,486 --> 00:49:03,055 With approval ratings so low that only george w. Bush 988 00:49:03,089 --> 00:49:05,323 Has come close since, 989 00:49:05,342 --> 00:49:08,260 He is now widely viewed as a near-great president 990 00:49:08,294 --> 00:49:10,328 And routinely showered with praise 991 00:49:10,347 --> 00:49:13,632 By republicans and democrats alike. 992 00:49:13,666 --> 00:49:15,868 Former national security advisor 993 00:49:15,902 --> 00:49:19,204 And secretary of state condoleeza rice, 994 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,873 Who george bush credited with 995 00:49:20,907 --> 00:49:24,326 "telling me everything I know about the soviet union," 996 00:49:24,377 --> 00:49:26,428 Named truman her "man of the century" 997 00:49:26,479 --> 00:49:30,215 To "time" magazine. 998 00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:33,619 David mccullough's 1993 biography of truman 999 00:49:33,653 --> 00:49:36,789 Won him a wide readership and a pulitzer prize, 1000 00:49:36,823 --> 00:49:39,825 Followed by an emmy-awarded best tv movie 1001 00:49:39,859 --> 00:49:43,562 On the cable network h.B.O. In 1995, 1002 00:49:43,596 --> 00:49:46,532 Seen by millions. 1003 00:49:46,566 --> 00:49:47,883 The first bomb will be ready 1004 00:49:47,917 --> 00:49:49,668 By the end of the first week in August. 1005 00:49:49,702 --> 00:49:52,020 The japs know they're licked. 1006 00:49:52,072 --> 00:49:53,355 Why won't they quit? 1007 00:49:53,406 --> 00:49:55,441 Their strategy is to prolong the war, 1008 00:49:55,475 --> 00:49:57,159 No matter what the cost, 1009 00:49:57,193 --> 00:50:00,112 Until we agree to let the emperor stay on the throne. 1010 00:50:00,146 --> 00:50:02,581 They'll prolong it by any means necessary. 1011 00:50:02,615 --> 00:50:04,649 They just will not surrender. 1012 00:50:04,667 --> 00:50:06,785 Some of the scientists 1013 00:50:06,819 --> 00:50:07,986 Who developed the bomb 1014 00:50:08,004 --> 00:50:09,588 Believe that it should never be used. 1015 00:50:09,622 --> 00:50:12,324 Is that so? 1016 00:50:12,342 --> 00:50:15,260 Well, what the hell do they think we built it for? 1017 00:50:15,295 --> 00:50:17,930 We can't uninvent it, henry. 1018 00:50:17,964 --> 00:50:21,133 What about the idea of setting one off for the japs to see? 1019 00:50:21,167 --> 00:50:22,601 What happened to that idea? 1020 00:50:22,635 --> 00:50:24,269 Mr. President, 1021 00:50:24,304 --> 00:50:26,138 I can only speak to the military questions. 1022 00:50:27,507 --> 00:50:29,057 We must use overwhelming force 1023 00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:31,610 To crush the japanese army, 1024 00:50:31,644 --> 00:50:35,013 Destroy their will to make war. 1025 00:50:35,031 --> 00:50:37,349 Stone: In the myth the film creates, 1026 00:50:37,367 --> 00:50:39,935 Henry stimson and general george marshall 1027 00:50:39,969 --> 00:50:42,738 Are portrayed as looking down on the underdog, 1028 00:50:42,789 --> 00:50:44,022 Little man truman, 1029 00:50:44,057 --> 00:50:47,025 Who is following his moral conscience. 1030 00:50:47,060 --> 00:50:49,611 But their real positions on the bomb and japan 1031 00:50:49,646 --> 00:50:51,346 Are misrepresented. 1032 00:50:51,381 --> 00:50:53,565 With regular weapons, the firebombing of dresden 1033 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,400 Killed 30,000 in one night. 1034 00:50:55,435 --> 00:50:57,569 Tokyo is utterly gone 1035 00:50:57,604 --> 00:50:59,488 With almost everyone in it. 1036 00:50:59,522 --> 00:51:01,039 They figure 100,000 dead there. 1037 00:51:01,074 --> 00:51:02,908 Seems to me, if there is 1038 00:51:02,942 --> 00:51:04,776 A moral point of no return, 1039 00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:06,879 You've long since passed it. 1040 00:51:09,949 --> 00:51:11,316 If I don't drop the bomb, 1041 00:51:11,334 --> 00:51:12,835 So many more of our young men 1042 00:51:12,869 --> 00:51:14,953 Will die in the invasion of japan. 1043 00:51:16,873 --> 00:51:21,059 Their men too, and women and children. 1044 00:51:21,094 --> 00:51:22,594 How could I face the people 1045 00:51:22,629 --> 00:51:23,662 When it's finally over 1046 00:51:23,696 --> 00:51:25,180 And say that I had the power 1047 00:51:25,215 --> 00:51:28,934 To possibly end the war long ago, 1048 00:51:28,968 --> 00:51:31,603 Spare the lives of their loved ones 1049 00:51:31,638 --> 00:51:34,406 And I chose not to use it? 1050 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,408 Stone: In the film, the soviet point of view 1051 00:51:36,442 --> 00:51:38,343 Is entirely ignored 1052 00:51:38,378 --> 00:51:40,479 And the characters of henry wallace and jimmy byrnes 1053 00:51:40,513 --> 00:51:42,931 Are not included. 1054 00:51:42,966 --> 00:51:46,134 But the real harry truman is far darker 1055 00:51:46,169 --> 00:51:48,954 Than mccullough's heroic underdog. 1056 00:51:48,988 --> 00:51:52,291 Despite his denials, his flawed and tragic 1057 00:51:52,325 --> 00:51:55,093 Decision to use the bomb against japan 1058 00:51:55,128 --> 00:51:57,629 Was meant instead as a ruthless 1059 00:51:57,664 --> 00:51:59,764 And deeply unnecessary warning 1060 00:51:59,782 --> 00:52:02,684 That the United States could be unrestrained 1061 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,554 By humanitarian considerations 1062 00:52:05,588 --> 00:52:08,573 In using these same bombs against the soviet union 1063 00:52:08,591 --> 00:52:12,911 If they continued to interfere in europe or asia. 1064 00:52:12,946 --> 00:52:15,747 However, on a larger moral scale, 1065 00:52:15,782 --> 00:52:19,117 Truman knew he was beginning a process 1066 00:52:19,151 --> 00:52:21,904 That could end life on the planet, 1067 00:52:21,938 --> 00:52:24,590 As he said explicitly on at least three occasions. 1068 00:52:24,624 --> 00:52:28,777 Yet he forged ahead recklessly. 1069 00:52:28,811 --> 00:52:31,780 Unnecessarily killing people is a war crime. 1070 00:52:31,814 --> 00:52:36,451 Threatening human extinction goes far far beyond that. 1071 00:52:37,887 --> 00:52:39,922 This is what henry wallace understood more deeply 1072 00:52:39,956 --> 00:52:42,591 Than any other government official. 1073 00:52:42,625 --> 00:52:44,993 The man who did his utmost to end 1074 00:52:45,028 --> 00:52:48,130 The u.S. Monopoly of the atomic bomb 1075 00:52:48,164 --> 00:52:51,400 Has been largely lost to history. 1076 00:52:51,434 --> 00:52:53,535 Newsreel voice: Henry wallace, u.S. Secretary of commerce, 1077 00:52:53,570 --> 00:52:56,204 Is called to the white house by president truman. 1078 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,541 He had advocated publically a more conciliatory attitude 1079 00:52:59,592 --> 00:53:02,544 Towards russia. Faced with public criticism 1080 00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:04,696 Of american official policy on world affairs 1081 00:53:04,731 --> 00:53:06,548 By a member of his own cabinet, 1082 00:53:06,583 --> 00:53:09,501 The president asked for and accepted wallace's resignation. 1083 00:53:09,535 --> 00:53:11,219 "dear harry, 1084 00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:13,355 As you requested, 1085 00:53:13,389 --> 00:53:15,691 Here is my resignation. 1086 00:53:15,725 --> 00:53:18,710 I shall continue to fight for peace. 1087 00:53:18,745 --> 00:53:21,713 I am sure that you approve 1088 00:53:21,748 --> 00:53:23,966 And will join me 1089 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,234 In that great endeavor." 1090 00:53:26,269 --> 00:53:28,987 Newsreel voice: His walking papers in the outgoing mail, 1091 00:53:29,005 --> 00:53:32,240 Last official act of the one remaining cabinet member 1092 00:53:32,275 --> 00:53:34,910 Appointed in roosevelt's first administration. 1093 00:53:34,944 --> 00:53:36,278 That's that. 1094 00:53:38,948 --> 00:53:41,116 And so mr. Wallace takes a walk 1095 00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:43,468 After 13 years in government posts. 1096 00:53:43,486 --> 00:53:46,471 From cabinet seat to park bench, 1097 00:53:46,489 --> 00:53:47,856 He's going to renew those attacks 1098 00:53:47,907 --> 00:53:50,275 On secretary byrnes' policies at paris. 1099 00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:52,260 But right now, the man who predicted 1100 00:53:52,295 --> 00:53:54,279 60 million jobs in america 1101 00:53:54,313 --> 00:53:57,899 Seems to be busy reading the help-wanted ads. 1102 00:53:57,934 --> 00:54:01,036 Stone: After leaving government in 1946, 1103 00:54:01,070 --> 00:54:03,889 He ran for president in 1948 1104 00:54:03,923 --> 00:54:05,607 As a candidate for the newly formed 1105 00:54:05,642 --> 00:54:07,409 Progressive party. 1106 00:54:07,443 --> 00:54:10,762 Their message of peace in a time of rising tensions 1107 00:54:10,797 --> 00:54:12,564 Was not heard. 1108 00:54:12,598 --> 00:54:15,233 Repeatedly attacked by truman and the press 1109 00:54:15,268 --> 00:54:17,903 As a communist sympathizer, 1110 00:54:17,937 --> 00:54:21,623 Wallace garnered less than 3% of the vote. 1111 00:54:21,674 --> 00:54:24,876 Following the election, he retired from politics. 1112 00:54:24,910 --> 00:54:28,063 Increasingly accused of sheltering communists 1113 00:54:28,097 --> 00:54:30,565 During his campaign, he compromised himself 1114 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,235 During the pressures of the korean war 1115 00:54:33,269 --> 00:54:34,970 And the mccarthy period, 1116 00:54:35,004 --> 00:54:37,105 Loudly condemning the soviets. 1117 00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:39,841 But he clung to his progressive ideals 1118 00:54:39,876 --> 00:54:43,929 And decried later u.S. Involvement in vietnam. 1119 00:54:43,963 --> 00:54:46,998 He lived quietly on his farm in upstate new york 1120 00:54:47,033 --> 00:54:49,518 Where he died in 1965. 1121 00:54:51,504 --> 00:54:54,923 In an irony that only an american capitalism can embrace, 1122 00:54:54,957 --> 00:54:59,861 The hi-bred corn company, which wallace founded in 1926, 1123 00:54:59,896 --> 00:55:04,533 Was sold in the late 1990s to the dupont corporation 1124 00:55:04,567 --> 00:55:07,736 For more than $9 billion. 1125 00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:10,472 A bittersweet reminder to those who repeatedly 1126 00:55:10,523 --> 00:55:13,358 Denigrated "mr. Smith goes to washington" 1127 00:55:13,392 --> 00:55:17,362 As naive and communist. 1128 00:55:17,397 --> 00:55:21,233 He remains one of the unsung heroes of the second world war, 1129 00:55:21,267 --> 00:55:24,886 Showing the world a kinder vision of america. 1130 00:55:24,937 --> 00:55:27,005 Though his vision was opposed at every step, 1131 00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,040 It did not die. 1132 00:55:29,075 --> 00:55:32,160 Following in the footsteps of others before him, 1133 00:55:32,195 --> 00:55:35,580 Henry wallace continued to lay the foundations, 1134 00:55:35,615 --> 00:55:37,282 And others followed. 1135 00:55:39,485 --> 00:55:41,103 Franklin roosevelt said... 1136 00:55:41,137 --> 00:55:45,190 Roosevelt: No man was more of the american soil than wallace. 1137 00:55:46,692 --> 00:55:49,594 Stone: But few now remember how close wallace came 1138 00:55:49,629 --> 00:55:51,263 To getting the vice presidential 1139 00:55:51,297 --> 00:55:53,915 Nomination on that steamy chicago night 1140 00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:56,535 In July 1944. 1141 00:55:58,287 --> 00:56:01,540 It was here that roosevelt committed the greatest blunder 1142 00:56:01,574 --> 00:56:03,592 Of his splendid career-- 1143 00:56:03,626 --> 00:56:07,429 Acceding to the party bosses' choice of harry truman. 1144 00:56:07,463 --> 00:56:10,615 He could have resisted and, with the people's backing, 1145 00:56:10,649 --> 00:56:13,335 Had wallace as his vice president. 1146 00:56:13,369 --> 00:56:16,688 But he was tired of defending his vision 1147 00:56:16,722 --> 00:56:18,290 For world peace. 1148 00:56:18,324 --> 00:56:21,443 Very tired and near death. 1149 00:56:21,477 --> 00:56:23,895 This sad moment points most clearly 1150 00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:27,616 To the fallibility of all human history-- 1151 00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:29,951 "to fail is not tragic, 1152 00:56:29,986 --> 00:56:31,553 To be human is." 1153 00:56:35,591 --> 00:56:37,309 What might this country have become 1154 00:56:37,343 --> 00:56:40,562 Had wallace succeeded roosevelt in April '45 1155 00:56:40,596 --> 00:56:43,098 Instead of truman? 1156 00:56:43,132 --> 00:56:46,902 Would no atomic bombs have been used in world war ii? 1157 00:56:46,936 --> 00:56:51,590 Could we have avoided the nuclear arms race and the cold war? 1158 00:56:51,624 --> 00:56:54,776 Would civil rights and women's rights have triumphed 1159 00:56:54,827 --> 00:56:56,828 In the immediate postwar years? 1160 00:56:58,831 --> 00:57:01,933 Might colonialism have ended decades earlier 1161 00:57:01,951 --> 00:57:05,136 And the fruits of science and industry been spread 1162 00:57:05,154 --> 00:57:07,856 More equitably around the globe? 1163 00:57:07,907 --> 00:57:09,875 We'll never know. 1164 00:57:09,909 --> 00:57:12,861 Some have spoken of the american century. 1165 00:57:12,895 --> 00:57:16,198 I say that the century on which we are entering, 1166 00:57:16,232 --> 00:57:18,867 A century which will come out of this war, 1167 00:57:18,901 --> 00:57:21,269 Can be and must be 1168 00:57:21,304 --> 00:57:23,305 The century of the common man. 1169 00:57:24,574 --> 00:57:26,758 If we really believe we are fighting 1170 00:57:26,792 --> 00:57:29,227 For a people's peace, 1171 00:57:29,262 --> 00:57:32,664 All the rest becomes easy. 1172 00:57:32,682 --> 00:57:34,649 ( dramatic music playing ) 1173 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,473 Download Movie Subtitles Searcher from www.podnapisi.net 98756

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