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NARRATOR:
This small nation of 25 million
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has waltzed on the world stagefor over 70 years.
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Despite all odds.
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The key to North Korea'ssurvival is totalitarian control
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and a hereditary bloodlinethat dictates the next leader.
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FIFIELD: North Korea has defied
all expectations
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and predictions for decades.
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Their system is one
that you know, by rights,
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should have collapsed decades ago,
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It survived the end
of the Soviet Union
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and the move of China
into becoming a capitalist powerhouse.
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There was a huge famine that
was debilitating in North Korea.
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In one of the few remaining
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Communist and military dictatorshipsin the world,
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there are three constants --
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A Kim has always ruled.
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Anyone questioning their ruleis swiftly killed
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or sent to hard labor.
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And any influence or knowledgeof the outside world
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is prohibited.
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LEE: We call North Korea
a communist country,
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they call it a socialist country.
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But I really see it as
an absolute monarchy
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and a royal dynasty of sorts,
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with the Kim family as --
as the royal family.
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The very first Kim to rule,Kim Il-sung,
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took a pagefrom the Soviet Union's playbook
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and began to createhis own Socialist paradise.
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Kim Il-sung was installed as
the president
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of this newly formed state
of North Korea in 1948,
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and he was supposed to be a kind
of lackey for Joseph Stalin
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there in North Korea,
but he very quickly set about
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developing a cult of personality
around him
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that was independent
of the Soviet system,
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in a way that worried
even the Soviets in the 1960s.
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They went well beyond
anything that even Stalin did.
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But they also borrowed
very heavily
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from other traditions in the region,
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so they borrowed
Confucian traditions from China
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that had prized hierarchy
and maleness seniority there.
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They also took some parts
of the Choson dynasty
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that had been
the last kind of imperial system
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on the Korean Peninsula before them.
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They also borrowed quite
heavily from Christianity.
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So he kind of picked and chose
from all sorts of traditions
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to create a whole new kind of
cult of personality
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that he thought could kind of
gain a following in that area.
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Kim Il-sung, the founder of the country,
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was essentially treated,
seen, and continues to be seen
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as a semi-god, if not god.
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This all falls within
the Kim Il-sung-ism.
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It's essentially a religion.
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So people pray to him, they thank him.
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You know, he is -- he is their god.
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And according to the state ideology
or the myth, the belief,
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this bloodline
comes from the Paektu bloodline.
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It's an origin story for the ages.
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They claim the Kim bloodlineemerges from a holy mountain
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on the Chinese border,Mount Paektu...
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...starting with Kim Il-sung,then his son, Kim Jong-il,
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and now grandson Kim Jong-un,
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all claiming the divine rightto leadership.
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This bloodline is extremely important.
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That's how they have
the legitimacy to rule,
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mandate to rule.
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I don't think anybody else
from outside of this bloodline
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could truly rule North Korea
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and have legitimacy
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Kim Il-sung built a cult of personality
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with a propaganda machine thatsaturated the entire society.
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BAEK:
That's the case today as well.
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Every piece of information
that's produced within North Korea
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is controlled by the state.
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(speaking Korean)
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Socialist revolution,
Kim family, Paektu bloodline,
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keep the Korean race pure,
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don't use any words
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that are not part of
a pure Korean language.
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There's a North Korean calendar system
where the Year One,
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Juche Year One, starts in 1912,
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which is the birth year of Kim Il-sung.
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The state's propaganda permeated
throughout the society.
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FIFIELD: In the 1970s when Kim Il-sung
started to think about
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who was going to
take over the system from him,
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they actually changed
the North Korean constitution
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to say that the leadership
should be from generation to generation
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and really laying the groundwork
for Kim Il-sung's son to take over.
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But they spent 25 years
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preparing Kim Jong-il
to succeed his father
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but also preparing
the North Korean population
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and especially the regime leaders
for this idea
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that the second-generation Kim
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(crowd cheering)
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We have to recognize that
in North Korea
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there's only been two successions --
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from the founder Kim Il-sung
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...and then when Kim Jong-il
passed away in 2011,
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there was another succession.
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Kim Jong-un took power at 28.
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At such a young age, the lineof succession is far less secure
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should something happen to him.
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The problem is that Kim Jong-un
does not have a male heir
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that is old enough
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An unclear succession planleaves the Kim family and North Korea
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vulnerable to potential instability,
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a risk that got the world's attentionwhen Kim was a no-show
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to commemorate his grandfather's birthon April 15, 2020.
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It's really treated like
perhaps we think of it
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as Christmas or New Year's.
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It's really the biggest holiday
of the year.
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And for every April 15,
Kim Jong-un has gone
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and laid a wreath at the mausoleum
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where his grandfather lies in state.
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And he didn't do that this year.
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His absence, compounded by the fact
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that he was not seen in publicfor another two weeks,
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ignited a firestorm of press.
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TERRY: There was this one
North Korea-related news website
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in South Korea that reported
that Kim was missing --
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not necessarily he's dead,
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but something was wrong
with his health.
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And then I think the next thing
we saw was Jim Sciutto of CNN
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citing a source in the U.S.,
in the U.S. government.
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{\an8}U.S. official with direct knowledge
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{\an8}that the U.S. is now
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{\an8}that the health of the North Korean leader
Kim Jong-un is in grave danger.
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He had a surgery,
that the aftermath of that surgery
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there were complications,
and his health is now in grave danger.
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When it comes to the health
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it is a very small circle of
people who would be in the know
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and be able to reveal
that information.
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FIFIELD: He was either fine,
recuperating, or dead.
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And I think the reason
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was because it seemed believable
that he would have health problems.
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When you look at him,
he is 36 years old.
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He is clearly in very bad shape
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South Korean doctors who have
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and his breathing and things have said
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that he appears to have
a body mass index of about 45,
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which would make him morbidly obese.
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Kim Jong-un finally did appearat a photo op on May 1st,
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putting the rumors to rest.
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But the seeds of doubt remained.
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Who would carry on the family lineand be the next leader?
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With a regime that controlsnearly every aspect
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of civilian, government,and military life
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with precision and force,
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it became apparent thatthere was no succession plan.
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So that would open up
just all kinds of possibilities.
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What if there is elite in-fighting
or struggle
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or factional struggle?
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So I think it does -- you know,
the succession question
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leads to potential instability,
regime instability in North Korea.
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The Kim family tree,or the Paektu bloodline,
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is fraught with complications.
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There are four generations,with multiple contenders,
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{\an8}each one eligibleto ascend the throne.
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So there's a story that
before Kim Jong-il passed away,
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he was talking to a Russian diplomat
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and he pointed out
that two of his children
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seemed to have the knack and interest
for political affairs
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and it was Kim Jong-un
and Kim Yo-jong, the sister.
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She has all the incentive to try to prove
that she is a strong leader
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as a young --
younger sister of the leader,
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but also as a woman.
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FIFIELD: Kim Jong-un has supreme
confidence in his sister, Kim Yo-jong.
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She is the person
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because she has that
same interest in this system
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continuing for decades to come.
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Early on, Kim Yo-jong was appointed
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an alternate member of the Politburo,
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only the second womanto receive that title.
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The first, her aunt, Kim Kyong-hui.
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AUM: Kim Yo-jong was also
assuming greater positions
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in a variety of agencies
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within the North Korean government,
particularly the most important one,
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so the Propaganda and Agitation Department
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that builds up the cult
and narrative around Kim Jong-il
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but also now Kim Jong-un.
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And even now she has taken
the leadership
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of all inter-Korean
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So when the North Korean delegation
went to Seoul
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for the PyeongChang Olympics in 2018,
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it was clear that she was, in effect,
the head of the delegation
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and is now leading
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TERRY: The South Korean public
and media went mad.
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This was the first time
really seeing her
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and someone from the regime.
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They were scrutinizing her looks,
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they liked the way
she held up her chin.
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They thought she looked
somewhat like a royalty,
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a little bit proud.
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They liked how she was wearing
a simple ponytail, to her makeup.
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Everything about her
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and she was quite popular.
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They thought she had the right image.
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So she played a very important role
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in softening up the image
for her country,
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for her brother, for herself.
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LEE: It was an interesting opportunity
for us to see what she was like.
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Until then, to be honest,
I had seen her --
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she really was on the periphery,
darting around behind the scenes.
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And so it was interesting
to see her step into that role
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and play more of
a diplomatic role as envoy
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on behalf of her brother.
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Kim Yo-jong was seenby her brother's side during his summits
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with South Korean President Moon Jae-in
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and with President Trumpin Singapore and Hanoi.
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The truly amazing thing about
the brief period of diplomacy
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that we saw in 2018 was
the willingness of both Kim Yo-jong
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and Kim Jong-un to be portrayed live
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and to step out of their
comfortable protected cocoon
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and to step
into the rest of the world,
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the outside world
where anything could happen.
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So this is a very clear departure
from his father,
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from their father,
who was notoriously shy
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of any kind of public appearance
that wasn't staged.
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Instead they're taking a page
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from their grandfatherKim Il-sung's playbook,
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carefully controlling the message.
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Following the Korean War,
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he establishedstate-sponsored messaging
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designed to secure his own powerthrough a campaign of fear.
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The propagandist scriptwas a simple lie --
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"Imperialist Americans" invaded onceand will do it again,
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and only he can protect the country.
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North Korea has very strong concerns
about a hostile United States.
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For example, they know that
President Eisenhower
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was contemplating the use
of atomic weapons in North Korea
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if China and North Korea
were to reinvade after the armistice.
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North Korea was also very devastated
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by the 600,000 tons of bombs
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that the U.S. dropped in the North Korea
during the Korean War
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that basically left
no building standing
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and turned North Korea into a desert.
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So from that experience,
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I think that really got
into North Korea's psyche,
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and that's probably one
of the central premises
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of how they think about
their security going forward.
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Decades of fear has fueledthe development
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of the fourth-largest militaryin the world,
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including a nuclear arsenal
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and ICBMs capable of reachingthe continental United States.
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And at the helm of it allis the Kim family dynasty.
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(crowd cheering)
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By 1980, Kim Jong-ilwas being groomed as successor.
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As head of propaganda, he usedthe office to write himself
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into the origin storyalongside his father.
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FIFIELD: The propaganda came to say
that Kim Jong-il,
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who was actually born
in a logging camp
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in the Siberian part
of the Soviet Union,
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they said that he was born
on Mount Paektu in a wooden hut
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and a bright star shone
in the sky that night,
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which would be very familiar
to anybody
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who had been raised
in the Christian tradition,
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which Kim Il-sung actually had been.
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Upon the sudden deathof the founding Kim in 1994,
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while the country mourned,
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Kim Jong-il assumed powerwithout missing a beat.
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He ruled with the same iron fist.
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While the people suffered and starved,
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he carried on the propaganda mythof the strongman for all the world.
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Then, over a decade into his reign,
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he mysteriously disappearsfrom public view.
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LEE:
On September 9, 2008,
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we were fully expecting
Kim Jong-il to appear
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and wave to the crowds
at the 60th anniversary
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of the founding of North Korea,
major milestone anniversary.
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So in Korean culture,
we call any 60th birthday the Hwangap,
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so it's a big deal.
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We fully expected him
to be there waving
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from the viewing platform.
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And I still remember, I was watching
a feed of North Korean state TV,
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live feed, and the camera
panned to the viewing platform,
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and he wasn't there.
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He had suffered a stroke,
was perhaps in a coma,
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and we wouldn't know for weeks.
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And so that goes to show
how hard it is
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to get any information
about North Korea.
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The whole regime realized they needed to
turbocharge the succession plan.
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So from then on, we saw Kim Jong-un,
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the third son of Kim Jong-il,
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{\an8}being rolled out as the natural
heir apparent to this dynasty.
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And the way they did this
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was really
by emphasizing the bloodline.
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So they started really hammering
this line that Kim Jong-un
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had this Paektu blood
flowing through his veins
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and that he was uniquely qualified
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to be able to lead
the North Korean regime.
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And so this is how Kim Jong-un today
claims legitimacy to lead.
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This is the reason why Kim Jong-un
ride those white horses on Mount Paektu.
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He wants to remind everybody
that he has this claim
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that very, very few other people do.
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(crowd screaming and crying)
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The propaganda paid off.
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At the young age of 28,
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Kim Jong-un became the next leader ofNorth Korea after his father died.
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But the fact remained --
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He had very little experience,and that made him vulnerable.
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In a military dictatorship,
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the person who controls the moneyand the weapons is the leader.
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Military credibility is consideredessential for that role.
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TERRY: Kim Jong-un himself,
who had no military experience,
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they had to sort of manufacture things
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to give him
that kind of military experience.
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So in 2010, when the North Koreans
sank a South Korean corvette, Cheonan,
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killing 46 South Korean sailors,
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that was supposedly done
under Kim Jong-un's name,
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that was under his direction,
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to give him sort of credibility
with the elites and the public.
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{\an8}To add to his legitimacy,an aunt, Kim Kyong-hui,
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{\an8}and her husband, Jang Song-thaek,
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{\an8}acted as unofficial regentsto the young Kim.
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Jang brought in billionsto the regime
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by setting up markets abroad,mostly in China.
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The aunt was an influential
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and trusted advisorbehind the scenes.
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Kim Jong-un's father,
Kim Jong-il, relied on his sister
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as a support network,
as someone who's loyal to Kim Jong-il.
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There's not many people
that you can trust in North Korea
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if you're the leader of North Korea.
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So family members are very
important and Kim Kyong-hui,
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Kim Jong-il's sister,
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was an important person
that Kim Jong-il trusted,
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that he sought advice from,
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that -- someone who played
a supportive role for Kim Jong-il.
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FIFIELD: There was a very strong precedent
for a sister as a supporter.
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And in fact we saw way back,
the aunt and the sister,
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so Kim Kyong-hui and Kim Yo-jong,
were out riding horses together
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It looked the aunt was training the sister
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as much as she was training Kim Jong-un
to take over this role.
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TERRY:
Kim Yo-jong is a confidante,
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the one person that Kim Jong-un
absolutely trusts in North Korea.
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As much confidence Kim Jong-unseemingly has in his sister,
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there's one big thing keeping herfrom becoming the next leader
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if her brother dies unexpectedly.
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FIFIELD: North Korea is
an extremely patriarchal system.
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This regime has always been run by men,
and particularly old men,
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so it's really impossible to think
that a young woman could take over,
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that Kim Yo-jong could be
the next successor of North Korea.
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But having said that,
it's also impossible to think
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that she wouldn't take over
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because there just really
is nobody else in the family
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who has any kind of public profile,
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any kind of prominent role
in the regime,
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and who would be able to step
into that top leadership role
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in the way that she could.
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TERRY: I truly believe this
Paektu bloodline, which is so important,
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trumps this patriarchal society.
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So I understand
this patriarchy is important,
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it's a male-dominated society,
and there's no doubt about that.
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But what's more important to rule?
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What do you need
to have to rule North Korea?
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You need the bloodline.
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In the spring of 2020,
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Kim Jong-un made a pointof showing the world
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that he was alive and well
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after his brief disappearancefrom the public eye.
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Still the world speculated --Who could be the next successor?
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And then his sister madean unprecedented show of force.
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A statement from Kim Yo Jong,
First Vice Department Director
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of the Central Committee
of the Workers' Party of Korea.
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She threatened to endthe 2018 inter-Korean treaty
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if the South did not stopactivist defectors
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sending anti-regime messagesinto the North.
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(speaking Korean)
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(applause)
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Kim Yo-jong said some very harsh
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and disparaging things
about the Moon administration.
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"...it is no longer possible to discuss
North-South relations with
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such a servile, submissive partner who is
steeped deeply in flunkeyism
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and now even dashes towards
disgrace and self ruin."
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AUM: And then also did things
like blowing up
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the inter-Korean liaison office...
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...cutting off
the communication channels.
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It's also very telling that
she basically said
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that she is giving
the North Korean military permission
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to come up with next steps for,
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you know, being aggressive
against South Korea.
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They deliberated a phased
anti-enemy plan
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to make sure those traitors and
human scum pay for their crimes...
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AUM:
So I think that was very important
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because publicly she is showing
that she has the power
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to instruct the North Korean military
to devise and implement next steps.
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They have connived with human scum
in actions against our republic,
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driving inter-Korean relations
to a catastrophic end point.
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That is a part of Kim Yo-jong
being groomed to exert control
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over the North Korean military
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if there were a problem
with Kim Jong-un.
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The Moon administration acquiesced
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and placed restrictionson activist defectors.
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TERRY: Nothing that's coming out
of North Korea is sort of haphazard.
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They have thought this through.
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I think that Kim Jong-un
has in his mind
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grooming his sister,
and this is sort of the start.
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She needs to show that's she'S tough,
she has what it takes,
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that she can be tough
against the South Koreans,
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she can be tough against Americans.
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So I think more provocations
will come out of North Korea
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and it will have
Kim Yo-jong's name on it.
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But she is walking a tightrope,
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because even trusted family members
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can get on the wrong sideof the regime.
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(cheers and applause)
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When Kim Jong-un took power,he saw threats everywhere.
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There were hundreds of purgesand executions
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of anyone Kim saw as a threat,
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mostly old-guard loyaliststo his father.
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One year into his reign,he had his own uncle,
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Jang Song-thaek,killed for amassing too much power
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within the system.
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FIFIELD: He was taken out --
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There were bleachers set up
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so that regime officials
could watch as he was shot
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I believe with an antiaircraft gun
in front of this audience
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to send a powerful
deterrent message
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to anybody who might think about,
you know, rivaling Kim Jong-un
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for the leadership.
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{\an8}In Kim Jong-un's mind,his older half-brother, Kim Jong-nam,
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{\an8}posed the next threat.
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Kim Jong-nam showed
absolutely no desire whatsoever
509
00:27:43,361 --> 00:27:45,463
to take on that leadership role.
510
00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:47,232
He had been critical
of the system.
511
00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:51,102
He had been living outside of
North Korea for about 15 years.
512
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:54,539
In terms of Kim Jong-un's paranoia
513
00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:57,308
and his desire to kind of
shore up the system
514
00:27:57,375 --> 00:28:00,512
and make sure that his core family
and him in particular
515
00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:02,080
was fully in charge,
516
00:28:02,147 --> 00:28:05,250
this is the reason why he had
his own half-brother,
517
00:28:05,316 --> 00:28:09,354
you know, very brutally assassinated
in full public view
518
00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:12,390
of the security cameras
in Kuala Lumpur Airport.
519
00:28:12,457 --> 00:28:14,059
♪♪
520
00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:17,896
LEE: Both of these were
very strong messages
521
00:28:17,962 --> 00:28:20,498
to members of the Kim family
522
00:28:20,565 --> 00:28:23,034
and members of the elite
that you either play along
523
00:28:23,101 --> 00:28:24,569
and you do what Kim Jong-un says,
524
00:28:24,636 --> 00:28:27,706
or he will make sure
that you pay the price.
525
00:28:27,772 --> 00:28:30,775
And so those were both
incredibly chilling messages
526
00:28:30,842 --> 00:28:33,712
that would not have been lost
among the elites
527
00:28:33,778 --> 00:28:35,880
as well as members of the Kim family.
528
00:28:35,947 --> 00:28:37,816
♪♪
529
00:28:37,882 --> 00:28:40,952
After half-brother Kim Jong-namwas murdered,
530
00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:44,723
{\an8}his son, Kim Han-sol,went into hiding.
531
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:46,791
♪♪
532
00:28:46,858 --> 00:28:49,360
Despite spendingmost of his life abroad,
533
00:28:49,427 --> 00:28:51,763
he still feared for his life.
534
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:54,332
TERRY: I'm sure Kim Jong-un
is looking for Kim Han-sol
535
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,568
to get him rid of him
and a potential --
536
00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:59,070
any potential future successor.
537
00:28:59,137 --> 00:29:01,840
Kim Han-sol is a lot older
than his own children right now
538
00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:04,576
so if something were to happen
to Kim Jong-un
539
00:29:04,642 --> 00:29:08,613
and if, let's say, China and the U.S.
backed someone like Kim Han-sol,
540
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,381
that could potentially happen.
541
00:29:10,448 --> 00:29:12,751
So I think if I'm Kim Jong-un,
542
00:29:12,817 --> 00:29:16,354
he would be, you know --
Kim Han-sol is in danger.
543
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:19,891
My father has been killed
a few days ago.
544
00:29:19,958 --> 00:29:22,260
I'm currently with my mother
and my sister.
545
00:29:23,962 --> 00:29:27,766
We hope -- We hope this gets better soon.
546
00:29:27,832 --> 00:29:29,567
It's a real-life Game of Thrones.
547
00:29:29,634 --> 00:29:31,336
♪♪
548
00:29:31,402 --> 00:29:33,805
Next up on the family tree,
549
00:29:33,872 --> 00:29:40,245
{\an8}the globe-trotting, concertgoingolder brother, Kim Jong-chul.
550
00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:44,783
He's not a credible person
from the elite's perspective,
551
00:29:44,849 --> 00:29:49,020
because you want a strong leader
and he was already considered --
552
00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:50,522
Kim Jong-chul was already considered
553
00:29:50,588 --> 00:29:53,925
to be not a strong leader,
who's uninterested in politics,
554
00:29:53,992 --> 00:29:57,061
who's a music fan, who's too effeminate.
555
00:29:57,128 --> 00:29:59,097
♪♪
556
00:29:59,164 --> 00:30:01,866
With no other male siblingsin the running,
557
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:05,670
another potential challengerwithin the bloodline is the uncle,
558
00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:07,405
Kim Pyong-il.
559
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:10,575
♪♪
560
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:14,546
LEE: Kim Pyong-il was a half-brother
of Kim Jong-il.
561
00:30:14,612 --> 00:30:15,880
They had different mothers.
562
00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:19,517
So Kim Pyong-il presents
a very interesting case.
563
00:30:19,584 --> 00:30:24,055
He is a member of the Kim family
who bears the Paektu lineage.
564
00:30:24,122 --> 00:30:27,725
His father is Kim Il-sung,
He looks similar to Kim Il-sung.
565
00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:28,827
♪♪
566
00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:30,528
And I do think Kim Jong-il
567
00:30:30,595 --> 00:30:32,697
saw him as a competitor
for the throne.
568
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:34,732
♪♪
569
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,702
Kim Jong-il, however,
he won the battle for leadership
570
00:30:37,769 --> 00:30:41,372
and sent Kim Pyong-il overseas
as a diplomat.
571
00:30:41,439 --> 00:30:44,843
And Kim Pyong-il spent decades overseas.
572
00:30:44,909 --> 00:30:46,010
♪♪
573
00:30:46,077 --> 00:30:47,412
In a surprise turn,
574
00:30:47,478 --> 00:30:51,382
Kim Jong-un recently recalled his uncleto Pyongyang.
575
00:30:51,449 --> 00:30:54,452
No one is sure why.
576
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:58,656
TERRY: Who knows why Kim Jong-un brought
his uncle back to North Korea.
577
00:30:58,723 --> 00:31:03,695
I think the real reason is to make sure
that Kim Pyong-il does not defect
578
00:31:03,761 --> 00:31:06,631
and that Kim Jong-un
can keep a tab on him.
579
00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:08,032
(crowd cheering)
580
00:31:08,099 --> 00:31:12,871
A clear line to the next leaderremains uncertain.
581
00:31:12,937 --> 00:31:16,307
Such a void could lead to chaos.
582
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:19,410
♪♪
583
00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:24,883
♪♪
584
00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:28,086
In North Korea,daily life is influenced
585
00:31:28,152 --> 00:31:31,389
by over 70 yearsof Kim family rule.
586
00:31:31,456 --> 00:31:36,060
A new leader outside the Paektu bloodlineis unthinkable.
587
00:31:36,127 --> 00:31:41,132
But when you look at the family tree,there's no clear choice.
588
00:31:41,199 --> 00:31:44,903
{\an8}Kim Yo-jong is young and female.
589
00:31:44,969 --> 00:31:49,807
{\an8}The brother, Kim Jong-chul,is perceived as weak.
590
00:31:49,874 --> 00:31:55,346
{\an8}The nephew, Kim Han-sol,is unknown within North Korea.
591
00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:58,917
{\an8}The uncle, Kim Pyong-il,lacks the relationships
592
00:31:58,983 --> 00:32:01,686
{\an8}within the system to gather power.
593
00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:04,155
♪♪
594
00:32:04,222 --> 00:32:07,525
It's court intrigue.
It's modern-day court intrigue.
595
00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:11,663
One prominent figurein the North Korean court
596
00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:15,199
not found on the family treeis Choe Ryong-hae.
597
00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:18,436
He wields great powerand influence in the regime
598
00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:22,340
and should not be overlookedas a potential successor.
599
00:32:22,407 --> 00:32:24,042
AUM:
He spent some time in the military,
600
00:32:24,108 --> 00:32:28,179
but really he's been a bureaucrat
for the last 30, 40 years.
601
00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:31,950
He's the first vice chair
of the State Affairs Commission
602
00:32:32,016 --> 00:32:37,055
and widely recognized as the number two
in command in North Korea.
603
00:32:37,121 --> 00:32:38,189
♪♪
604
00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:42,961
LEE: Choe Ryong-hae is political royalty
in North Korea.
605
00:32:43,027 --> 00:32:47,632
He comes from the perfect lineage
for a North Korean official.
606
00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:49,167
His father, Choe Hyon,
607
00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:53,171
fought alongside Kim Il-sung
fighting the Japanese,
608
00:32:53,237 --> 00:32:58,042
and so he has what they call
that partisan street cred.
609
00:32:58,109 --> 00:33:00,845
And so he has that
610
00:33:00,912 --> 00:33:05,650
political heritage and ancestry.
611
00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:09,253
He's a trusted friend
of the Kim family.
612
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,989
But he's still an outsider.
613
00:33:11,055 --> 00:33:12,991
♪♪
614
00:33:13,057 --> 00:33:14,859
TERRY: Choe Ryong-hae does not have
Paektu bloodline,
615
00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:17,695
and that's the valuable thing
that Choe Ryong-hae is missing.
616
00:33:17,762 --> 00:33:22,033
That said, I think if anybody
can challenge Kim Yo-jong
617
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:25,003
becoming the next successor
will be Choe Ryong-hae
618
00:33:25,069 --> 00:33:29,007
because he is the second
most powerful man in North Korea.
619
00:33:29,073 --> 00:33:33,311
There are rumors that his second
son was married to Kim Yo-jong,
620
00:33:33,378 --> 00:33:36,414
so there could be some
interesting connections there
621
00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:39,550
in terms of a future power dynamic.
622
00:33:39,617 --> 00:33:41,119
♪♪
623
00:33:41,185 --> 00:33:46,791
A smart play for the North Koreans
is for Kim Yo-jong to take over,
624
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,827
she has the right bloodline,
625
00:33:49,894 --> 00:33:52,530
and closely aided by someone
like Choe Ryong-hae
626
00:33:52,597 --> 00:33:56,367
who has experience,
who has a patronage network,
627
00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:58,336
who comes from the right family.
628
00:33:58,403 --> 00:34:00,772
And if they could work together,
629
00:34:00,838 --> 00:34:04,842
that would be a smart thing
for the North Koreans.
630
00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:07,912
That would lead to stable transition.
631
00:34:07,979 --> 00:34:11,649
♪♪
632
00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:15,286
Any uncertainty during a timeof transition
633
00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:18,256
could potentially causea chaotic period
634
00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:20,091
that would worry South Korea
635
00:34:20,158 --> 00:34:24,295
and not be toleratedby China or the U.S.
636
00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:26,497
♪♪
637
00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:29,233
AUM: The concern for the U.S. government
is instability.
638
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,103
If you were to have a situation
where Kim Jong-un
639
00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:35,907
passes away suddenly
and there's no clear successor,
640
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:38,943
then that presents problems.
641
00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:41,412
China's also concerned about instability
642
00:34:41,479 --> 00:34:44,715
along its borders
with North Korea as well.
643
00:34:44,782 --> 00:34:48,419
Their approach to North Korea
is that they want no war,
644
00:34:48,486 --> 00:34:52,423
no instability, and no nuclear weapons,
but in that order.
645
00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:54,692
And so I think they would
also be concerned
646
00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,994
about a crisis of succession,
647
00:34:57,061 --> 00:34:58,763
the inability of
the North Korean government
648
00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:02,667
to control its population,
warring factions,
649
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:08,106
loose nuclear weapons,
a fallout from poor nuclear security,
650
00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:10,174
a famine in the country.
651
00:35:10,241 --> 00:35:13,911
Any of these scenarios could cause
a problem along China's border,
652
00:35:13,978 --> 00:35:16,481
and they would want to
approach that very quickly.
653
00:35:16,547 --> 00:35:18,483
♪♪
654
00:35:18,549 --> 00:35:21,385
And they have good reasonfor concern.
655
00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:25,556
The North Korean peoplehave starved before.
656
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:30,595
In the 1990s, a financial crisis struck,massive flooding,
657
00:35:30,661 --> 00:35:33,598
and the loss of their main benefactor,the Soviet Union,
658
00:35:33,664 --> 00:35:37,668
caused the central distribution systemto collapse.
659
00:35:37,735 --> 00:35:40,037
♪♪
660
00:35:40,104 --> 00:35:43,574
They could no longer providefor the people.
661
00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:47,011
It is believed that overa half a million lives were lost
662
00:35:47,078 --> 00:35:48,579
in the famine that followed.
663
00:35:48,646 --> 00:35:50,148
♪♪
664
00:35:50,214 --> 00:35:53,151
The North Korean people realized
that they couldn't rely
665
00:35:53,217 --> 00:35:54,318
on the North Korean government anymore,
666
00:35:54,385 --> 00:35:56,921
they had to basically
rely on themselves.
667
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:59,624
And so they started
foraging for food,
668
00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:03,594
they started to sell anything
that they could get their hands on,
669
00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:06,030
make stuff
and sell them in the new markets
670
00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,299
that were popping up
across the country.
671
00:36:08,366 --> 00:36:12,637
And basically this resulted
in survival entrepreneurialism
672
00:36:12,703 --> 00:36:14,505
on a mass scale.
673
00:36:14,572 --> 00:36:16,841
♪♪
674
00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:22,180
BAEK: Fast-forward to now in 2020,
there are hundreds of massive markets.
675
00:36:22,246 --> 00:36:24,582
Now they are regulating these markets,
676
00:36:24,649 --> 00:36:29,020
they are taxing these markets,
and they are trying to control.
677
00:36:29,086 --> 00:36:31,689
But they're not getting rid of them
because there's no way,
678
00:36:31,756 --> 00:36:34,392
there's no alternative to
provide for all of its citizens.
679
00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:35,593
♪♪
680
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,895
By allowing these markets to exist,
681
00:36:37,962 --> 00:36:41,832
the people rely lesson the Kim family.
682
00:36:41,899 --> 00:36:44,702
But could this shift in powercause regime collapse,
683
00:36:44,769 --> 00:36:47,371
where the people gain control?
684
00:36:50,274 --> 00:36:53,110
♪♪
685
00:36:53,177 --> 00:36:57,081
Every aspect of North Korean lifeis so tightly controlled,
686
00:36:57,148 --> 00:37:00,251
the outside world is not to be knownor seen
687
00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:03,221
by the vast majority of citizens.
688
00:37:03,287 --> 00:37:06,224
But that is slowly changing.
689
00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:07,725
(gas whooshing)
690
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:09,527
♪♪
691
00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:11,596
Over the last 10, 20 years,
692
00:37:11,662 --> 00:37:15,466
North Korean people have been
getting access to foreign media,
693
00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:17,969
including South Korean
television programs,
694
00:37:18,035 --> 00:37:22,506
Chinese films, e-books, and so on
from the outside world.
695
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:25,910
Things that are being
smuggled in on USB sticks
696
00:37:25,977 --> 00:37:27,712
and micro SD cards.
697
00:37:27,778 --> 00:37:30,982
Things that North Korean government
doesn't want them to see.
698
00:37:31,048 --> 00:37:33,451
And once the North Korean people
learn things
699
00:37:33,517 --> 00:37:37,154
and know things about the outside world
and their own country
700
00:37:37,221 --> 00:37:39,390
that the North Korean leadership
doesn't want them to know,
701
00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:41,025
they can't unlearn them.
702
00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:44,695
And you know, curiosity is an idea
that can't be killed.
703
00:37:44,762 --> 00:37:47,031
(rooster crows)
704
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:53,104
♪♪
705
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:58,075
North Korean people have been able to open
things up from the bottom up gradually,
706
00:37:58,142 --> 00:38:01,379
and one of the most important changes
there, I think, is in information.
707
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:04,649
And even though there's so much risk
attached to that,
708
00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:08,085
this phenomenon has actually
been spreading and growing.
709
00:38:08,152 --> 00:38:12,089
Where are the USBs?
710
00:38:12,156 --> 00:38:15,159
These are the USBs here
711
00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:18,963
Loads of recent films and
TV shows saved on there
712
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:22,199
PARK: It makes them question
certain fundamental things
713
00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:24,835
that they've been taught
from an early age.
714
00:38:24,902 --> 00:38:26,137
(up-tempo music playing)
715
00:38:26,203 --> 00:38:28,205
What are they doing?
716
00:38:29,173 --> 00:38:32,543
And this is something
that is irreversible.
717
00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:35,079
♪♪
718
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:39,083
LEE: The North Korean people
struggle with children
719
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:42,053
who question things
and young people who are not happy.
720
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:43,988
MAN: Who can tell me what the term
"market research" means?
721
00:38:44,055 --> 00:38:47,491
So you have to wonder
whether Kim Jong-un
722
00:38:47,558 --> 00:38:52,730
has the kind of loyalty
that his grandfather
723
00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:56,600
could safely rely on
when he was leader.
724
00:38:56,667 --> 00:39:00,338
♪♪
725
00:39:00,404 --> 00:39:03,641
FIFIELD: Until now, the system has been
able to stay intact
726
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:08,579
using repression, punishing people
in very extreme ways
727
00:39:08,646 --> 00:39:13,484
if they commit political crimes
like questioning the leadership.
728
00:39:13,551 --> 00:39:17,021
North Korea is the most closed
and repressive country in the world,
729
00:39:17,088 --> 00:39:19,724
and 25 million North Korean people
730
00:39:19,790 --> 00:39:22,493
face the most authoritarian government
in the world,
731
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,596
and this situation has been going
for 70 years now.
732
00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:28,199
♪♪
733
00:39:28,265 --> 00:39:31,736
It's absolutely incredible to think
that there are maybe around
734
00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:36,140
100,000 North Korean people
in political prison camps
735
00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:40,044
which are reminiscent
of the Soviet gulags
736
00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:44,648
or some people would say even
the Nazi concentration camps.
737
00:39:44,715 --> 00:39:46,851
♪♪
738
00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:50,287
This is how the North Korean system
has survived.
739
00:39:50,354 --> 00:39:54,158
So far they have been able to
keep it under control,
740
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:58,396
but every time you take a step away
from this foundation myth,
741
00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:02,400
it becomes that little bit harder
to perpetuate it.
742
00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:07,438
♪♪
743
00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:11,575
BAEK: Eventually we could see
history repeat itself in North Korea
744
00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:14,011
as it did in other parts
of the world, which is,
745
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:17,148
groups of people who are like-minded
746
00:40:17,214 --> 00:40:20,951
in a shared pursuit
of achieving a better society,
747
00:40:21,018 --> 00:40:24,488
happier society,
a freer society for its people.
748
00:40:24,555 --> 00:40:27,525
(man speaking Korean over loudspeaker)
749
00:40:27,591 --> 00:40:30,861
There is every day
disorganized resistance.
750
00:40:30,928 --> 00:40:33,998
North Korean people resist authority
and the government
751
00:40:34,064 --> 00:40:36,801
in their own way
in their daily life.
752
00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:38,669
(people speaking Korean)
753
00:40:38,736 --> 00:40:39,703
You're not going to be quiet?
754
00:40:40,971 --> 00:40:43,441
You're saying you don't deserve this?
Watch your mouth!
755
00:40:43,507 --> 00:40:47,011
And as that builds,
it maybe creates the seeds
756
00:40:47,077 --> 00:40:48,879
for civil society space,
757
00:40:48,946 --> 00:40:50,981
more cooperation between people,
758
00:40:51,048 --> 00:40:55,019
and just more spread
of subversive ideas
759
00:40:55,085 --> 00:40:57,455
and desires for the future.
760
00:40:57,521 --> 00:41:00,257
(sirens wailing)
761
00:41:05,763 --> 00:41:08,599
You know, human history
teaches us to be humble
762
00:41:08,666 --> 00:41:12,570
about what we think we can know
about how things will play out,
763
00:41:12,636 --> 00:41:14,705
especially in terms
of political developments.
764
00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:18,976
These things inherently surprise us.
765
00:41:19,043 --> 00:41:22,980
Countries are stable
until they're unstable.
766
00:41:23,047 --> 00:41:24,982
♪♪
767
00:41:25,049 --> 00:41:30,020
BAEK: I think we're not going to see
anything similar to a Pyongyang Spring
768
00:41:30,087 --> 00:41:32,356
or a Pyongyang Square anytime soon.
769
00:41:32,423 --> 00:41:35,960
And this is mainly because
the deterrent measures,
770
00:41:36,026 --> 00:41:39,497
the punishment mechanisms,
is just so effective.
771
00:41:39,563 --> 00:41:42,700
North Korea is -- as a dictatorship,
they get a A-plus.
772
00:41:42,766 --> 00:41:46,003
They are an incredibly
effective dictatorship.
773
00:41:46,070 --> 00:41:49,707
No one is immune
from being used by the state,
774
00:41:49,773 --> 00:41:54,545
being exploited by the state,
or being assassinated by the state.
775
00:41:54,612 --> 00:41:56,914
♪♪
776
00:41:56,981 --> 00:41:59,650
FIFIELD: I've asked people
who've escaped from North Korea
777
00:41:59,717 --> 00:42:03,254
about why there is
no kind of people's uprising,
778
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,623
why there is no revolution
in North Korea.
779
00:42:05,689 --> 00:42:07,191
They all point to this --
780
00:42:07,258 --> 00:42:11,061
They say that if you disagree
with the system
781
00:42:11,128 --> 00:42:12,830
you try to escape from it,
782
00:42:12,897 --> 00:42:15,299
you don't try to change it
from within.
783
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:17,801
For those who opt to escape,
784
00:42:17,868 --> 00:42:21,739
the chosen pathis often through China,
785
00:42:21,805 --> 00:42:24,141
guided by an underground network,
786
00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:28,245
constantly fearing detection,pushing themselves to exhaustion.
787
00:42:28,312 --> 00:42:32,283
It's an arduous path to freedom.
788
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:38,789
♪♪
789
00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:41,859
BAEK: I think it's essential to try
to understand
790
00:42:41,926 --> 00:42:45,362
and listen to as many
North Korean defectors as possible,
791
00:42:45,429 --> 00:42:50,301
'cause the regime
and all the heinous, brutal ways
792
00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:55,172
that the regime maintains to keep
the society as it is, is one thing.
793
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,208
But at the complete other end
of the spectrum
794
00:42:58,275 --> 00:43:00,311
of trying to understand North Korea
as a whole
795
00:43:00,377 --> 00:43:01,679
are the people who live it
796
00:43:01,745 --> 00:43:04,848
and the people who overcome
such repressive life.
797
00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:06,050
♪♪
798
00:43:06,116 --> 00:43:08,819
So where is the tipping point
in North Korea?
799
00:43:08,886 --> 00:43:12,489
What is the moment where
the people of North Korea say, you know,
800
00:43:12,556 --> 00:43:15,826
"We've had enough with living
in this system of lies.
801
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:19,797
We know the outside world
is richer and freer
802
00:43:19,863 --> 00:43:22,099
and we want some of that
for ourselves"?
803
00:43:22,166 --> 00:43:25,636
♪♪
804
00:43:25,703 --> 00:43:31,342
For the Kim family, maintaining controlis a delicate dance.
805
00:43:31,408 --> 00:43:33,611
♪♪
806
00:43:33,677 --> 00:43:36,614
Their dynasty has ruledfor over 70 years...
807
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,715
♪♪
808
00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:42,519
...and the keyto its ongoing survival is succession.
809
00:43:42,586 --> 00:43:44,855
♪♪
810
00:43:44,922 --> 00:43:49,259
{\an8}I think we have many years before
we'll see that issue come to a head.
811
00:43:49,326 --> 00:43:52,997
{\an8}Perhaps it will come sooner
than Kim Jong-un would like.
812
00:43:53,063 --> 00:43:54,898
{\an8}♪♪
813
00:43:54,965 --> 00:44:00,137
{\an8}But he is banking on the idea
of it being decades
814
00:44:00,204 --> 00:44:03,374
{\an8}before he hands power
to the next generation.
815
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,942
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