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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,352 --> 00:00:06,702 SECNAV: Not only have we captured Saddam Hussein, 2 00:00:06,789 --> 00:00:09,139 we have also captured or killed 3 00:00:09,226 --> 00:00:12,621 almost all of his most trusted lieutenants. 4 00:00:12,708 --> 00:00:14,449 And I want to introduce two men 5 00:00:14,536 --> 00:00:17,017 who have been key to this success-- 6 00:00:17,104 --> 00:00:20,672 Major General Earl Watson of the United States Marines 7 00:00:20,759 --> 00:00:24,502 and General Mohammed Jabra of the Iraqi Army. 8 00:00:24,589 --> 00:00:27,897 As of today, these two outstanding generals 9 00:00:27,984 --> 00:00:30,900 are assigned to lead the joint task force 10 00:00:30,987 --> 00:00:35,252 charged with capturing all remaining high-value targets. 11 00:00:35,339 --> 00:00:37,167 Ladies and gentlemen, 12 00:00:37,254 --> 00:00:38,473 General Watson and General Jabra. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,344 [ applause] 14 00:00:40,431 --> 00:00:41,998 MAN: General Jabra? General Jabra? 15 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:44,087 Could you give us the Iraqi point of view 16 00:00:44,174 --> 00:00:45,871 on relations with the U.S. military? 17 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:48,439 I speak for all Iraqi people when I say 18 00:00:48,526 --> 00:00:51,051 that our trust in your military has grown, 19 00:00:51,138 --> 00:00:53,053 as our nation grows more secure. 20 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:54,880 On a personal level, I've had 21 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:58,188 many late-night cups of coffee with General Watson 22 00:00:58,275 --> 00:01:00,843 and have found him to be quite agreeable. 23 00:01:00,930 --> 00:01:03,933 Though perhaps a little obsessed with American football. 24 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:05,978 [ laughing] General Jabra...? 25 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,415 General Watson? 26 00:01:08,285 --> 00:01:11,549 General, are you confident you're the right man 27 00:01:11,636 --> 00:01:13,116 to be working so closely 28 00:01:13,203 --> 00:01:14,857 with General Jabra and the other Iraqis, 29 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:17,599 given your hostile attitude toward their religion? 30 00:01:17,686 --> 00:01:19,340 [ murmuring] 31 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:21,646 I don't know what you're talking about. 32 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:23,257 General, I was 33 00:01:23,344 --> 00:01:24,910 at the Alexandria Baptist Church yesterday 34 00:01:24,997 --> 00:01:26,738 when you gave your guest sermon. 35 00:01:26,825 --> 00:01:29,306 You described Islam as a second-rate religion 36 00:01:29,393 --> 00:01:32,831 and said we're doing battle with the Devil. 37 00:01:32,918 --> 00:01:36,052 What I said in church-- 38 00:01:36,139 --> 00:01:37,880 and what I believe-- 39 00:01:38,576 --> 00:01:41,101 is simply that the United States 40 00:01:41,188 --> 00:01:43,799 is engaged in a global war against evil. 41 00:01:43,886 --> 00:01:46,193 General Watson, are you admitting to this accusation? 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,759 General Watson? General Watson? 43 00:01:47,846 --> 00:01:48,934 General Watson? 44 00:01:49,021 --> 00:01:50,980 Mr. Secretary? 45 00:01:53,678 --> 00:01:55,637 [ opening theme music playing] 46 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:46,209 SECNAV: This media frenzy over General Watson 47 00:02:46,296 --> 00:02:49,386 has reached from Norway to Zanzibar. 48 00:02:49,473 --> 00:02:51,519 Zanzibar, folks. 49 00:02:51,606 --> 00:02:55,044 Believe me, it doesn't do us any good anywhere. 50 00:02:55,131 --> 00:02:57,655 The international community is already suspicious 51 00:02:57,742 --> 00:02:59,614 of our motives. 52 00:02:59,701 --> 00:03:01,964 I agree the general may have chosen his words poorly. 53 00:03:02,051 --> 00:03:05,359 However, what he said is not entirely false. 54 00:03:05,446 --> 00:03:07,970 We are at war with a decidedly evil people. 55 00:03:08,057 --> 00:03:11,103 General Watson sounded like he was equating evil with Islam. 56 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:12,583 Well, that's not what he said. 57 00:03:12,670 --> 00:03:14,455 But that's how some of our allies 58 00:03:14,542 --> 00:03:16,457 and enemies are going to interpret it. 59 00:03:16,544 --> 00:03:18,372 Well, if we're going to reassure them 60 00:03:18,459 --> 00:03:19,982 that the general is not a fanatic, 61 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:22,550 we need to know what else he said. 62 00:03:22,637 --> 00:03:25,770 Did he really call Islam a "second-rate religion"? 63 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:27,816 Well, the last I checked, 64 00:03:27,903 --> 00:03:29,992 church sermons were protected by the Constitutional provisions 65 00:03:30,079 --> 00:03:32,516 for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. 66 00:03:32,603 --> 00:03:34,649 Military personnel are not as free 67 00:03:34,736 --> 00:03:37,304 as other Americans, Commander. 68 00:03:37,391 --> 00:03:39,915 The D.O.D., I.G. and the Marine Corps 69 00:03:40,002 --> 00:03:42,134 have requested JAG investigate 70 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:43,440 the general's remarks. 71 00:03:43,527 --> 00:03:45,486 We'll get right on it, sir. 72 00:03:45,573 --> 00:03:46,704 I'm not eager to see 73 00:03:46,791 --> 00:03:48,576 General Watson get burned. 74 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:50,578 He's a courageous officer, and he's proved vital 75 00:03:50,665 --> 00:03:52,232 in our counterinsurgency efforts. 76 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:55,670 Mr. Secretary, um... 77 00:03:55,757 --> 00:03:58,586 in order for us to reassure our allies-- 78 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:01,023 or anyone else, for that matter-- 79 00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:04,766 our investigation needs to be independent of any... 80 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:06,115 undue pressure. 81 00:04:06,202 --> 00:04:07,595 Of course, A.J. 82 00:04:07,682 --> 00:04:09,684 And I'd like to say that I'm glad 83 00:04:09,771 --> 00:04:14,906 the general will be investigated by someone of Muslim heritage. 84 00:04:14,993 --> 00:04:17,039 I think that'll enhance our credibility. 85 00:04:17,126 --> 00:04:18,997 Sir, I don't feel comfortable 86 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:21,478 having my cultural background factor in my assignments. 87 00:04:21,565 --> 00:04:24,133 Well, Colonel, I've come to learn 88 00:04:24,220 --> 00:04:28,833 that religion is a factor in everything. 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,357 Good luck. 90 00:04:30,444 --> 00:04:31,532 And... 91 00:04:31,619 --> 00:04:34,012 do me one little favor. 92 00:04:34,099 --> 00:04:35,884 Don't talk to the press. 93 00:04:38,321 --> 00:04:42,630 When you're on patrol in Baghdad or manning an Iraqi checkpoint, 94 00:04:42,717 --> 00:04:44,371 what do you think would be 95 00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:46,460 the most important phrase to know? 96 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:48,157 Yes, Captain. 97 00:04:48,244 --> 00:04:50,986 "Qif wa-il-la sa-et-leg el-far-- 98 00:04:51,073 --> 00:04:52,944 Stop or I will shoot." 99 00:04:53,031 --> 00:04:54,119 Uh, yes, Amira. 100 00:04:54,206 --> 00:04:55,512 Actually, that means, 101 00:04:55,599 --> 00:04:58,298 "Stop or I will release the mice." 102 00:04:58,385 --> 00:04:59,951 [ laughing] 103 00:05:00,038 --> 00:05:02,040 What you want is, 104 00:05:02,127 --> 00:05:04,216 "Qif wa-il-la sa-et-leg qw-naar." 105 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:07,219 Now, people, let's, uh... try and get that right. 106 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,570 But I think there's another phrase 107 00:05:09,657 --> 00:05:13,138 when in Iraq you would find to be very important. 108 00:05:13,225 --> 00:05:18,143 And that is, "Nahnoo hoona limoo-saa-edu-tek-- 109 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:20,407 We are here to help you." 110 00:05:20,494 --> 00:05:22,147 Very good, General. 111 00:05:22,234 --> 00:05:23,410 I'll quit while I'm ahead. 112 00:05:23,497 --> 00:05:25,716 Let us thank Amira Sattar 113 00:05:25,803 --> 00:05:28,110 for her expert assistance. 114 00:05:28,197 --> 00:05:29,807 Now, Marines, I want you to have 115 00:05:29,894 --> 00:05:31,374 everything in your notebooks 116 00:05:31,461 --> 00:05:34,029 fully digested by 0800 tomorrow. 117 00:05:34,116 --> 00:05:35,683 Dismissed. 118 00:05:35,770 --> 00:05:37,293 ALL: Aye, aye, sir. 119 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:38,425 Thank you, Amira. 120 00:05:38,512 --> 00:05:39,904 You're welcome, General. 121 00:05:39,991 --> 00:05:41,906 General, sir. 122 00:05:41,993 --> 00:05:44,169 This is Lieutenant Colonel MacKenzie. 123 00:05:44,256 --> 00:05:46,302 I'm Commander Rabb. We're with Headquarters JAG. 124 00:05:46,389 --> 00:05:47,564 Colonel. Hello, sir. 125 00:05:47,651 --> 00:05:49,392 Commander. Sir. 126 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:51,133 I was told to expect a visit. Please, have a seat. 127 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:52,439 Thank you, sir. 128 00:05:52,526 --> 00:05:53,701 What would you like to know? 129 00:05:53,788 --> 00:05:55,093 Well, sir, why don't we start 130 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:56,834 with what you said at the church? 131 00:05:56,921 --> 00:05:58,880 According to Jill Waddington, the ZNN reporter, 132 00:05:58,967 --> 00:06:00,969 you called Islam a "second-rate religion." 133 00:06:01,056 --> 00:06:02,797 I don't recall my exact words. 134 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:05,147 I suspect Ms. Waddington exaggerated. 135 00:06:05,234 --> 00:06:09,673 But I probably did say something like that, yes. 136 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,109 You're offended? 137 00:06:11,196 --> 00:06:12,633 We're listening, sir. 138 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,243 Commander, I'm aware 139 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:16,245 that in this morally relativistic age, 140 00:06:16,332 --> 00:06:19,117 I'm supposed to declare every religion equal, 141 00:06:19,204 --> 00:06:22,382 and Christianity is no better than Zoroastrianism. 142 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:24,993 But I believe that any religion that doesn't accept 143 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,083 Jesus Christ as our Savior is not following the true path. 144 00:06:28,170 --> 00:06:31,347 If that makes me insensitive, then so be it. 145 00:06:31,434 --> 00:06:33,305 Well, sir, you're certainly honest. 146 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:35,743 But you're essentially dividing the world 147 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:37,745 into Christians and infidels. 148 00:06:37,832 --> 00:06:39,616 That's not a word Iwould use, Colonel. 149 00:06:39,703 --> 00:06:42,271 Sir, did you-- as the reporter claims-- 150 00:06:42,358 --> 00:06:43,707 state that this country is presently 151 00:06:43,794 --> 00:06:45,492 "doing battle with the Devil"? 152 00:06:45,579 --> 00:06:47,668 Commander, whether you believe the Devil is real 153 00:06:47,755 --> 00:06:49,670 or just a metaphor, wouldn't you agree 154 00:06:49,757 --> 00:06:51,715 that an evil force was behind 9/11? 155 00:06:51,802 --> 00:06:53,717 Well, that would be difficult to deny, General. 156 00:06:53,804 --> 00:06:55,676 Sir, in your guest sermon, 157 00:06:55,763 --> 00:06:57,982 did you equate Islam with evil? 158 00:06:58,069 --> 00:06:59,941 No. 159 00:07:00,028 --> 00:07:03,205 But there are certain aspects of Islam that trouble me. 160 00:07:03,292 --> 00:07:06,208 The religion has a warrior streak 161 00:07:06,295 --> 00:07:07,949 that is too easily appropriated 162 00:07:08,036 --> 00:07:09,864 as a justification for holy war and terrorism. 163 00:07:09,951 --> 00:07:12,736 In all fairness, sir, Islam explicitly condemns terrorism. 164 00:07:12,823 --> 00:07:14,434 And Christianity has been misused 165 00:07:14,521 --> 00:07:17,001 to justify everything from enslaving Africans 166 00:07:17,088 --> 00:07:19,395 to massacring American Indians. 167 00:07:19,482 --> 00:07:21,919 That's true, Colonel, and I condemn that, as well. 168 00:07:22,006 --> 00:07:25,662 But Ms. Waddington only mentioned partof my sermon. 169 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:27,098 What was the other part, sir? 170 00:07:27,185 --> 00:07:28,622 That all of the world's peoples 171 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:30,406 are our brothers and sisters. 172 00:07:30,493 --> 00:07:32,452 And it is our Christian duty to protect them 173 00:07:32,539 --> 00:07:34,497 from tyranny and violence. 174 00:07:34,584 --> 00:07:36,586 But don't trust myrecollection of the sermon, Commander. 175 00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:38,893 Ask the people who heard me speak. 176 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:40,590 [ helicopter whirring] 177 00:07:40,677 --> 00:07:42,287 General Watson was recommended to me 178 00:07:42,374 --> 00:07:44,115 by a minister in Norfolk. 179 00:07:44,202 --> 00:07:45,856 The general gave a guest sermon there last year. 180 00:07:45,943 --> 00:07:47,554 Were you happy with the guest sermon 181 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:49,338 the general gave this past Sunday? 182 00:07:49,425 --> 00:07:51,862 I don't see what all the fuss is about. 183 00:07:51,949 --> 00:07:55,692 His message was, "Everybody is your neighbor. 184 00:07:55,779 --> 00:07:59,391 And you have to love thy neighbor as thyself." 185 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:01,916 WOMAN: I've been the secretary here since 1972. 186 00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:05,006 Haven't missed a single Sunday service since I started. 187 00:08:05,093 --> 00:08:07,182 Then you heard General Watson's sermon? 188 00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:09,271 [ phone rings] 189 00:08:09,358 --> 00:08:12,492 You won't tell Reverend Owens everything I said, will you? 190 00:08:12,579 --> 00:08:14,406 Not if you don't want me to. 191 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:15,886 To be honest, I felt kind of uncomfortable. 192 00:08:15,973 --> 00:08:19,324 General Watson came down pretty hard on Islam. 193 00:08:19,411 --> 00:08:21,501 What exactly did he say? 194 00:08:21,588 --> 00:08:24,460 He said Muslims believe it's their religious duty 195 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:26,244 to conquer the infidels. 196 00:08:26,331 --> 00:08:29,204 He said most Muslims are good, peaceful people, 197 00:08:29,291 --> 00:08:31,598 and very religiously observant. 198 00:08:31,685 --> 00:08:35,558 So, he never indicated that Islam was somehow evil? 199 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:37,821 Absolutely not. 200 00:08:37,908 --> 00:08:40,824 Now, he said all religions are second to Christianity, 201 00:08:40,911 --> 00:08:42,870 but we should respect them. 202 00:08:42,957 --> 00:08:45,568 He never exactly called Islam "evil." 203 00:08:45,655 --> 00:08:48,353 But he said according to opinion polls, 204 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,965 most Muslims support the terrorists. 205 00:08:51,052 --> 00:08:53,620 He emphasized most Muslims hate the terrorists. 206 00:08:53,707 --> 00:08:56,797 He even mentioned some opinion polls to that effect. 207 00:08:56,884 --> 00:08:59,364 He went on like that for over an hour. 208 00:08:59,451 --> 00:09:01,671 Then he was gonna do a slide show. 209 00:09:01,758 --> 00:09:04,021 Thankfully, the projector broke down. 210 00:09:04,108 --> 00:09:06,241 OWENS: Unfortunately, the projector broke down. 211 00:09:06,328 --> 00:09:10,288 But... I could have listened to General Watson forever. 212 00:09:10,375 --> 00:09:12,508 He was inspiring. 213 00:09:12,595 --> 00:09:14,728 A true man of God. 214 00:09:14,815 --> 00:09:17,905 TURNER: My father was a Navy chaplain 215 00:09:17,992 --> 00:09:19,559 since before I was born. 216 00:09:19,646 --> 00:09:20,690 Thank you. 217 00:09:20,777 --> 00:09:22,344 I never heard him once say 218 00:09:22,431 --> 00:09:23,867 a single negative word about another religion. 219 00:09:23,954 --> 00:09:25,477 Yeah, no matter how we handle this, 220 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:26,609 we'll offend a lotof people. 221 00:09:26,696 --> 00:09:27,871 [ grunts] 222 00:09:27,958 --> 00:09:29,090 You okay? 223 00:09:29,177 --> 00:09:30,657 Yeah, I'm fine. 224 00:09:30,744 --> 00:09:32,310 Except I could use some help on this case. 225 00:09:32,397 --> 00:09:33,442 I'd be glad to. 226 00:09:33,529 --> 00:09:35,139 Just let me know if I get 227 00:09:35,226 --> 00:09:36,576 overly sanctimonious. 228 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:37,968 You, Sturgis? 229 00:09:42,146 --> 00:09:44,018 Oh, boy. 230 00:09:44,105 --> 00:09:45,497 What? 231 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:46,716 I was hoping this would go away. 232 00:09:46,803 --> 00:09:48,326 I'm being investigated. 233 00:09:48,413 --> 00:09:51,808 For what? 234 00:09:51,895 --> 00:09:53,723 CHEGWIDDEN: I'm afraid we have 235 00:09:53,810 --> 00:09:55,682 another cultural insensitivity case. 236 00:09:55,769 --> 00:09:58,293 Commander Turner stands accused of anti-Korean bias. 237 00:09:58,380 --> 00:09:59,816 That surprises me, sir. 238 00:09:59,903 --> 00:10:02,384 Last fall, the commander and a Lieutenant Yi 239 00:10:02,471 --> 00:10:03,820 were assigned to interrogate 240 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:05,605 some North Korean submariners. 241 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:07,998 Lieutenant Yi claims the commander's attitudes 242 00:10:08,085 --> 00:10:10,131 caused the Navy to lose valuable intel. 243 00:10:10,218 --> 00:10:11,698 I want you to investigate. 244 00:10:11,785 --> 00:10:13,743 I've never heard the commander make 245 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:15,876 any anti-Korean or anti-Asian remarks, sir. 246 00:10:15,963 --> 00:10:17,791 Well, if these allegations prove true, 247 00:10:17,878 --> 00:10:19,619 I want them documented. 248 00:10:19,706 --> 00:10:21,490 But if they're false, I want Turner's record cleared. 249 00:10:21,577 --> 00:10:22,665 Understood? 250 00:10:22,752 --> 00:10:23,840 Yes, sir. 251 00:10:26,538 --> 00:10:28,105 What? 252 00:10:28,192 --> 00:10:30,238 I was in the same position a year ago, sir. 253 00:10:30,325 --> 00:10:32,980 I had Commander Turner's professional future in my hands. 254 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:35,286 Well, fortunately, he survived that experience. 255 00:10:35,373 --> 00:10:36,810 Barely, sir. 256 00:10:36,897 --> 00:10:38,376 Well, you'll do fine. That'll be all. 257 00:10:38,463 --> 00:10:40,204 Yes, sir. 258 00:10:40,291 --> 00:10:41,728 So, what have you got on General Watson? 259 00:10:41,815 --> 00:10:43,338 We've talked to seven people 260 00:10:43,425 --> 00:10:45,122 who heard his guest sermon last Sunday, sir. 261 00:10:45,209 --> 00:10:46,820 And each one has a different story. 262 00:10:46,907 --> 00:10:48,386 But taken together, they indicate 263 00:10:48,473 --> 00:10:50,171 General Watson publicly denigrated Islam. 264 00:10:50,258 --> 00:10:51,912 The evidence is highly ambiguous, sir. 265 00:10:51,999 --> 00:10:54,436 You two ever get tired of disagreeing? 266 00:10:54,523 --> 00:10:56,612 Yes, sir. No, sir. 267 00:10:56,699 --> 00:10:59,180 TURNER: Sir, if the Colonel is correct, General Watson is guilty 268 00:10:59,267 --> 00:11:00,964 of conduct unbecoming. 269 00:11:01,051 --> 00:11:02,444 And not only that, his public statements 270 00:11:02,531 --> 00:11:04,054 may be undermining our war on terrorism. 271 00:11:04,141 --> 00:11:05,447 RABB: Sir, I think we're being roped 272 00:11:05,534 --> 00:11:06,535 into a politically correct witch hunt. 273 00:11:06,622 --> 00:11:08,232 Some overly ambitious 274 00:11:08,319 --> 00:11:09,973 TV reporter makes exaggerated claims. 275 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:12,149 Suddenly we're all jumping through hoops. 276 00:11:12,236 --> 00:11:13,760 Well, Commander, you're going to need 277 00:11:13,847 --> 00:11:15,370 a 12-foot ladder for this one. 278 00:11:15,457 --> 00:11:17,285 I taped this about ten minutes ago. 279 00:11:17,764 --> 00:11:20,201 REPORTER: There have been some stunning new developments in the story. 280 00:11:20,288 --> 00:11:22,464 Two and a half years ago, ZNN shot footage 281 00:11:22,551 --> 00:11:25,075 of a church service at a Marine Corps base in Virginia. 282 00:11:25,162 --> 00:11:26,642 That footage never aired at the time, 283 00:11:26,729 --> 00:11:28,949 but when the current controversy surfaced, 284 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:30,951 our news staff was able to locate the tape. 285 00:11:31,038 --> 00:11:35,129 The speaker you're about to see is Marine General Earl Watson. 286 00:11:35,216 --> 00:11:38,480 Our nation is under attack from men who believe, 287 00:11:38,567 --> 00:11:42,049 as the Quran says, that you must "Fight the unbelievers 288 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:43,703 wherever you find them." 289 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:46,662 We are locked in a worldwide struggle. 290 00:11:46,749 --> 00:11:49,186 And our enemy thinks 291 00:11:49,273 --> 00:11:51,058 that we are soft. 292 00:11:51,145 --> 00:11:53,887 Well, they are about to find out 293 00:11:53,974 --> 00:11:56,019 that we are a mighty Christian army 294 00:11:56,106 --> 00:11:58,674 and we will win this holy war. 295 00:12:07,552 --> 00:12:11,513 General Watson has two Silver Stars and a Purple Heart. 296 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,038 He's served his country with distinction for 25 years. 297 00:12:15,125 --> 00:12:16,997 He knew the rules, sir. 298 00:12:17,084 --> 00:12:20,087 As a high-ranking officer, you've got to watch your tongue. 299 00:12:20,174 --> 00:12:23,481 I bet you enjoy that part of the job, don't you, A.J. 300 00:12:23,568 --> 00:12:26,615 At any rate, a court of inquiry has been convened 301 00:12:26,702 --> 00:12:28,835 to examine General Watson's conduct. 302 00:12:28,922 --> 00:12:30,967 I think that's a wise decision, sir. 303 00:12:31,054 --> 00:12:34,231 Yes, and I want to keep it closed to the press. 304 00:12:34,318 --> 00:12:35,972 Sir, you're aware that a court of inquiry 305 00:12:36,059 --> 00:12:37,669 can recommend anything 306 00:12:37,757 --> 00:12:39,933 from a complete exoneration to a court-martial. 307 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:42,587 I'd tell you the result that I'm hoping for, 308 00:12:42,674 --> 00:12:44,676 but I guess to avoid impropriety, 309 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:46,722 I'd better hold my tongue. 310 00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:49,551 Bet you enjoy that part of the job, don't you, sir. 311 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:51,335 Oh, yeah. 312 00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:53,903 MACKENZIE: I realize we can't stop people 313 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:55,644 from being prejudiced. 314 00:12:55,731 --> 00:12:57,646 But there's no excuse for shooting off your mouth 315 00:12:57,733 --> 00:12:59,430 and alienating half the world. 316 00:12:59,517 --> 00:13:01,868 So when it comes to prejudice, "Don't ask, don't tell?" 317 00:13:01,955 --> 00:13:04,000 Colonel MacKenzie. Jill Waddington, ZNN. 318 00:13:04,087 --> 00:13:05,436 We've already met. 319 00:13:05,523 --> 00:13:07,177 Who authorized you to be in this building? 320 00:13:07,264 --> 00:13:08,700 I have a meeting with the public affairs office. 321 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,441 Why is this inquiry being held in private? 322 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:12,139 With all due respect, Ms. Waddington, 323 00:13:12,226 --> 00:13:14,054 we have nothing to say. 324 00:13:14,141 --> 00:13:16,186 Is JAG attempting to whitewash General Watson's actions? 325 00:13:16,273 --> 00:13:18,058 The P-A-0's office is upstairs. 326 00:13:18,145 --> 00:13:20,190 Colonel, because your general acted inappropriately, 327 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:22,845 is that a reason to be angry with the press? 328 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:25,108 How did she get onto General Watson in the first place? 329 00:13:25,195 --> 00:13:27,023 She says she was driving past the church 330 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:29,547 and she just happened to see General Watson's name 331 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:30,984 on the message board out front. 332 00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:32,072 Sounds convenient. 333 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:33,421 Think she had a source? 334 00:13:33,508 --> 00:13:35,205 I'll subpoena her phone records. 335 00:13:35,292 --> 00:13:36,554 The general apparently used slides during his talks. 336 00:13:36,641 --> 00:13:37,991 We should get a hold of those, too. 337 00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:39,470 I feel a little hypocritical. 338 00:13:39,557 --> 00:13:41,559 I'm being investigated for prejudice, 339 00:13:41,646 --> 00:13:43,866 and here I am going P-C on the general. 340 00:13:43,953 --> 00:13:46,869 Your case is totally different than General Watson's. 341 00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:48,828 Both of us could have our careers destroyed. 342 00:13:48,915 --> 00:13:50,655 Sturgis, there's no way you're guilty. 343 00:13:50,742 --> 00:13:52,527 You're far too obsessively rational 344 00:13:52,614 --> 00:13:54,485 to be prejudiced against anyone. 345 00:13:54,572 --> 00:13:56,270 Thanks... I think. 346 00:13:56,357 --> 00:13:58,359 Besides, I'm sure Lieutenant Roberts will determine 347 00:13:58,446 --> 00:14:00,361 there's nothing to it. 348 00:14:00,448 --> 00:14:02,276 Bud is investigating? 349 00:14:02,363 --> 00:14:04,582 I... I thought you knew. 350 00:14:07,368 --> 00:14:09,196 WATSON Our nation is under attack 351 00:14:09,283 --> 00:14:12,155 from men who believe, as the Quran says, 352 00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:14,288 that they must "fight the unbelievers 353 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:16,029 wherever they find them." 354 00:14:16,116 --> 00:14:18,988 Members of the Court, this quote is often used, 355 00:14:19,075 --> 00:14:21,686 to "prove" that Islam is a warlike religion. 356 00:14:21,773 --> 00:14:23,906 It's taken totally out of context. 357 00:14:23,993 --> 00:14:26,648 It actually refers to a war 1,500 years ago 358 00:14:26,735 --> 00:14:28,650 between a small Muslim community 359 00:14:28,737 --> 00:14:32,828 and the local tribesmen who were torturing and killing them. 360 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:35,265 I will grant the general may have misinterpreted the Quran. 361 00:14:35,352 --> 00:14:36,832 However, that has little to do with 362 00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:38,442 the issue at this court of inquiry. 363 00:14:38,529 --> 00:14:40,401 The general in uniform and in public, 364 00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:41,489 has been feeding false stereotypes 365 00:14:41,576 --> 00:14:43,099 about Islam. 366 00:14:43,186 --> 00:14:44,579 Let's watch the rest of it, Colonel. 367 00:14:46,450 --> 00:14:50,237 We are engaged in a worldwide struggle. 368 00:14:50,324 --> 00:14:53,980 And our enemy thinks that we are soft. 369 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:55,764 But they are about to find out 370 00:14:55,851 --> 00:14:58,723 that we are a mighty Christian army 371 00:14:58,810 --> 00:15:02,205 and we will win this holy war. 372 00:15:02,292 --> 00:15:04,555 The terrorists don't represent Islam 373 00:15:04,642 --> 00:15:08,342 any more than the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. 374 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:10,474 The general refers to a mighty Christian army. 375 00:15:10,561 --> 00:15:12,476 A holy war. 376 00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:13,869 Our president has been very explicit 377 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:15,871 that this is not a religious war. 378 00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:18,265 RABB: Our President has also used the word "crusade" 379 00:15:18,352 --> 00:15:20,615 which has a definite religious subtext. 380 00:15:20,702 --> 00:15:22,312 Religion is a part of life. 381 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,140 Our leaders need to feel 382 00:15:24,227 --> 00:15:26,186 they can speak without censoring their every word. 383 00:15:26,273 --> 00:15:28,710 This kind of loose talk endangers our national security. 384 00:15:28,797 --> 00:15:32,322 There is no evidence that a few inappropriate words 385 00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:34,716 will have any impact whatsoever. 386 00:15:34,803 --> 00:15:36,370 It's bad enough that some 387 00:15:36,457 --> 00:15:38,720 radical Islamists are talking holy war. 388 00:15:38,807 --> 00:15:41,027 We don't need our own generals following suit. 389 00:15:41,114 --> 00:15:43,377 Now the Arab street is watching this. 390 00:15:43,464 --> 00:15:45,205 A few more tapes like this, 391 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,642 and Osama won't need to make his videos anymore. 392 00:15:47,729 --> 00:15:50,645 Gentlemen, I gave this sermon five days after 9/11. 393 00:15:50,732 --> 00:15:52,908 We were pulling bodies from the rubble. 394 00:15:52,995 --> 00:15:54,736 Our nation was under attack. 395 00:15:54,823 --> 00:15:57,521 I wasn't paying attention to the niceties of speech. 396 00:15:57,608 --> 00:16:02,135 Did you clear your comments with public affairs in advance? 397 00:16:02,222 --> 00:16:06,617 Public affairs had a lot on its plate at the time. 398 00:16:06,704 --> 00:16:09,142 Were you aware the media would be at this church service? 399 00:16:09,229 --> 00:16:12,101 No. I flew in from Tampa the night before. 400 00:16:12,188 --> 00:16:14,408 But when you arrived at the chapel, 401 00:16:14,495 --> 00:16:15,887 and saw a TV news crews, 402 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:17,324 why didn't you moderate your comments? 403 00:16:17,411 --> 00:16:18,847 RABB: I believe the general 404 00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:20,327 has answered that question, sir. 405 00:16:20,414 --> 00:16:21,850 9/11 was not a time for moderation. 406 00:16:21,937 --> 00:16:23,721 Emotions were running high. 407 00:16:23,808 --> 00:16:25,593 MACKENZIE: Yes, it was a crisis situation. 408 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,511 Exactly when we need our military leaders at their best. 409 00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:31,729 [ knocking] 410 00:16:31,816 --> 00:16:34,123 CHEGWIDDEN: Enter. 411 00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:37,387 Sir, we need that press release this afternoon. 412 00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:39,433 Half the letters to the editor 413 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,262 say that General Watson deserves the Medal of Honor. 414 00:16:42,349 --> 00:16:45,830 The other half say he should be hung upside down by his toes. 415 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:47,658 We are a divided country, sir. 416 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:50,792 Fortunately, we Americans have one thing in common. 417 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:51,967 Bad traffic? 418 00:16:52,054 --> 00:16:53,534 Baseball. 419 00:16:53,621 --> 00:16:55,362 Actually, sir, I'm not much of a fan. 420 00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:58,582 I've fired people for less, Coates. 421 00:16:58,669 --> 00:16:59,888 Sir, I told SECNAV 422 00:16:59,975 --> 00:17:01,759 we'd fax it to him by 1500. 423 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:02,934 [ sighs] 424 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:04,284 Very well. 425 00:17:04,371 --> 00:17:05,850 You take shorthand, right? 426 00:17:05,937 --> 00:17:07,939 Yes, sir. I took a course last summer. 427 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,854 I must say, I found it much more enlightening 428 00:17:09,941 --> 00:17:11,682 than my Psychology 101 course. 429 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:15,295 Okay... 430 00:17:15,382 --> 00:17:19,560 The formal inquiry into General Earl Watson's conduct 431 00:17:19,647 --> 00:17:24,130 is expected to be completed by the end of this week. 432 00:17:24,217 --> 00:17:27,655 In the meantime, may I suggest 433 00:17:27,742 --> 00:17:29,613 that we set aside 434 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:32,529 all our religious differences 435 00:17:32,616 --> 00:17:36,446 and instead concentrate our efforts 436 00:17:36,533 --> 00:17:40,668 on bringing a major league baseball team back 437 00:17:40,755 --> 00:17:43,540 to the fine city city of Washington, DC. 438 00:17:43,627 --> 00:17:45,325 I don't think that will fly, sir. 439 00:17:47,588 --> 00:17:49,590 Why don't I work on a first draft 440 00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:52,375 and then bring it into you, sir. 441 00:17:52,462 --> 00:17:53,637 Thanks, Coates. 442 00:17:53,724 --> 00:17:55,639 You're welcome, sir. 443 00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:57,728 Tell me something, Harm. 444 00:17:57,815 --> 00:17:59,469 Were you offended by the general's comments about Islam? 445 00:17:59,556 --> 00:18:00,992 A lot of things offend me, Mac. 446 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,081 It's what gets me going in the morning. 447 00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:04,170 Seriously. 448 00:18:04,257 --> 00:18:06,520 Look, do I agree with all of General Watson's views-- no. 449 00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,435 However, the general has spent his life 450 00:18:08,522 --> 00:18:09,958 protecting our freedoms. 451 00:18:10,045 --> 00:18:11,655 Now we're trying to take away his right 452 00:18:11,742 --> 00:18:13,309 to freedom of religion and freedom of speech. 453 00:18:13,396 --> 00:18:14,789 Colonel. 454 00:18:14,876 --> 00:18:17,008 Now, doesn't that offend you? 455 00:18:20,925 --> 00:18:22,449 What is it? 456 00:18:22,536 --> 00:18:24,103 Jill Waddington's cell phone records. 457 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,844 Prior to visiting the Alexandria Baptist Church, 458 00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:29,891 she spoke on the phone twice with a Marine corporal. 459 00:18:29,978 --> 00:18:31,806 Her source. 460 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:34,983 [ knocking] 461 00:18:35,070 --> 00:18:36,376 Sir. 462 00:18:36,463 --> 00:18:37,942 This is for you, Lieutenant. 463 00:18:38,029 --> 00:18:39,553 I understand you're the point man 464 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,424 on the Lieutenant Yi investigation. 465 00:18:41,511 --> 00:18:42,730 It's not something I requested, sir. 466 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:43,861 I put together all my papers 467 00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:44,993 for you on the matter. 468 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,037 Peruse them at your leisure. 469 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:48,823 Thank you, sir. 470 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:50,738 Don't you worry about it, Lieutenant. 471 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:52,131 I'm sure you'll do a fine job. 472 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:01,444 Ma'am, is there any way to keep my identity secret? 473 00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:03,968 What are you concerned about, Corporal Hamud? 474 00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:05,883 No one likes a whistle-blower, ma'am. 475 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:07,668 That's why I asked Ms. Waddington 476 00:19:07,755 --> 00:19:09,365 not to tell anyone about me. 477 00:19:09,452 --> 00:19:11,367 And how did you meet Ms. Waddington? 478 00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:12,890 I met her at Parris Island, 479 00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:14,631 when she was doing a story on boot camp. 480 00:19:14,718 --> 00:19:16,155 So a couple weeks ago 481 00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:17,634 when I heard General Watson was getting 482 00:19:17,721 --> 00:19:19,419 a high-profile assignment from CENTCOM, 483 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:20,550 I decided to call her. 484 00:19:20,637 --> 00:19:22,552 And why was that, Corporal? 485 00:19:22,639 --> 00:19:26,252 Ma'am, you know that speech they're showing on TV, 486 00:19:26,339 --> 00:19:27,557 from after 9/11? 487 00:19:27,644 --> 00:19:29,342 Well, I was there. 488 00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:30,778 And it upset you? 489 00:19:30,865 --> 00:19:32,736 Yes, ma'am. I'm a Muslim. 490 00:19:32,823 --> 00:19:35,652 What were you doing at a church service, Corporal? 491 00:19:35,739 --> 00:19:37,698 It was not a church service, ma'am. 492 00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:42,398 It was an interfaith service, ma'am. 493 00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:44,966 That's how it was advertised in the Command Plan of the Day. 494 00:19:45,053 --> 00:19:47,534 As a time for all Marines to come together, 495 00:19:47,621 --> 00:19:49,884 no matter what their religion... and pray together. 496 00:19:49,971 --> 00:19:51,494 And that's why you went there? 497 00:19:51,581 --> 00:19:53,714 Ma'am, when 9/11 happened, 498 00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:56,499 a lot of off-color comments got thrown around, 499 00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:59,154 "raghead this" and "towelhead that." 500 00:19:59,241 --> 00:20:01,504 I thought this service would be a chance to worship 501 00:20:01,591 --> 00:20:03,941 with my fellow Marines, and feel solidarity. 502 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,205 Is that the way it worked out, Corporal Hamud? 503 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,032 No, ma'am. 504 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,556 When General Watson started trash talking Islam... 505 00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:10,644 it seemed like my country 506 00:20:10,731 --> 00:20:13,037 was turning against me. 507 00:20:13,124 --> 00:20:14,909 That must have been distressing. 508 00:20:14,996 --> 00:20:16,345 Ma'am, I'm getting out 509 00:20:16,432 --> 00:20:17,999 of the Marine Corps next month. 510 00:20:18,086 --> 00:20:19,783 I don't blame my decision on General Watson. 511 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:22,264 But his speech sure didn't make me want to re-enlist. 512 00:20:22,351 --> 00:20:25,136 Corporal, were you the only non-Christian at the service? 513 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:26,660 There were at least two other Muslims 514 00:20:26,747 --> 00:20:29,489 and two Jews that I knew of, ma'am. 515 00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:32,187 And they were all very upset also. 516 00:20:32,274 --> 00:20:34,972 Does counsel for the party have any questions? 517 00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:36,844 Yes, I do. 518 00:20:36,931 --> 00:20:39,020 Corporal Hamud, did you ever hear General Watson 519 00:20:39,107 --> 00:20:40,326 say anything questionable 520 00:20:40,413 --> 00:20:41,718 other than that one time? 521 00:20:41,805 --> 00:20:43,329 No, sir. 522 00:20:43,416 --> 00:20:45,200 But I didn't have much contact with him. 523 00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:46,723 So then would you agree that there are many Muslims 524 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:48,595 serving in the Marine Corps who are happy? 525 00:20:48,682 --> 00:20:50,205 I do know several Muslims 526 00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:51,380 who are relatively content, yes, sir. 527 00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:52,468 So then there is 528 00:20:52,555 --> 00:20:53,948 no anti-Muslim sentiment 529 00:20:54,035 --> 00:20:56,124 that pervades the Marine Corps? 530 00:20:56,211 --> 00:20:58,692 I'd say when it comes to anti-Muslim prejudice, 531 00:20:58,779 --> 00:21:00,955 the Marine Corps is about the same 532 00:21:01,042 --> 00:21:03,262 as the rest of society, sir. 533 00:21:03,349 --> 00:21:06,656 But our leaders shouldn't be out there fanning the flames, sir. 534 00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:14,577 When 9/11 happened, we were all in a state of shock. 535 00:21:14,664 --> 00:21:19,887 To some extent that excuses General Watson's actions. 536 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:23,543 However, the general disobeyed military regulations 537 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:27,068 by delivering a potentially inflammatory speech 538 00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:29,375 in front of the press, in uniform, 539 00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:32,378 without getting it cleared beforehand. 540 00:21:32,465 --> 00:21:35,729 Furthermore, there is some evidence that he has continued 541 00:21:35,816 --> 00:21:38,906 a pattern of questionable remarks since then. 542 00:21:38,993 --> 00:21:41,038 General Watson, your rhetoric 543 00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:44,215 has damaged our nation's relations with our allies. 544 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:47,741 Your outspoken views disrupted good order and discipline 545 00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:49,438 within the Marine Corps. 546 00:21:49,525 --> 00:21:52,223 This court of inquiry recommends that you be charged 547 00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:53,660 with dereliction of duty 548 00:21:53,747 --> 00:21:55,357 and conduct unbecoming an officer... 549 00:21:55,444 --> 00:21:57,968 and that these charges be disposed of 550 00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,188 at general court-martial. 551 00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:11,721 All the major American networks 552 00:22:11,808 --> 00:22:14,115 and Al Jazeera will be covering the court-martial. 553 00:22:14,202 --> 00:22:16,247 By the time this is over, sir, 554 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,206 General Watson's controversial statements about Islam 555 00:22:18,293 --> 00:22:20,426 will be seen by hundreds of millions of people. 556 00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:21,905 Why don't we just accept the fact 557 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:24,125 that some of our leaders have strong opinions 558 00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:26,083 and that's what makes them great leaders? 559 00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:27,911 Great leaders don't actively promote 560 00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:29,391 the clash of civilizations. 561 00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:30,653 Mac, that was the media's doing. 562 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:32,263 General Watson merely stated 563 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,831 his beliefthat God is not neutral 564 00:22:34,918 --> 00:22:37,356 in the struggle between freedom and terrorism. 565 00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:39,053 No, I think God would prefer it 566 00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:40,533 if people didn't throw his name around 567 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:41,664 quite so much. 568 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:42,839 [ knocking] 569 00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:44,014 COATES: Excuse me, sir. 570 00:22:44,101 --> 00:22:45,929 Good morning, everybody. 571 00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:47,061 Mr. Secretary. 572 00:22:47,148 --> 00:22:48,584 As you were. 573 00:22:48,671 --> 00:22:50,934 I just dropped by to thank the admiral 574 00:22:51,021 --> 00:22:54,111 for keeping the investigation of General Watson so quiet. 575 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:55,591 Sir, there is no way-- 576 00:22:55,678 --> 00:22:56,853 Just kidding. Just kidding, A.J. 577 00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:58,420 At this point, 578 00:22:58,507 --> 00:23:00,596 we'll just let the chips fall where they may. 579 00:23:00,683 --> 00:23:03,120 Let's show our allies and our enemies 580 00:23:03,207 --> 00:23:05,558 American military jurisprudence at its finest. 581 00:23:05,645 --> 00:23:06,820 Yes, sir. 582 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:09,170 Colonel MacKenzie, uh, 583 00:23:09,257 --> 00:23:12,173 who are you planning to have testify? 584 00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:13,827 Actually, uh, Mr. Secretary, 585 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:15,829 I was thinking of calling you. 586 00:23:16,656 --> 00:23:18,266 SECNAV: General Watson is charged 587 00:23:18,353 --> 00:23:20,181 with speeding up the flow of intel 588 00:23:20,268 --> 00:23:23,489 to all field units that are tracking top-ranked terrorists. 589 00:23:23,576 --> 00:23:25,621 Sir, have the general's comments about Islam 590 00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,841 affected his ability to fulfill his mission? 591 00:23:27,928 --> 00:23:29,364 Now that they've been publicized, 592 00:23:29,451 --> 00:23:30,670 they could have a negative effect, yes. 593 00:23:30,757 --> 00:23:31,845 In what way? 594 00:23:31,932 --> 00:23:33,586 Objection: calls for speculation. 595 00:23:33,673 --> 00:23:36,197 It's well within the witness's field of expertise. 596 00:23:36,284 --> 00:23:37,677 Overruled. 597 00:23:37,764 --> 00:23:39,418 The general allegedly said 598 00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:41,376 that we're engaged in a war against Islam; 599 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:44,510 that could make some Iraqis less likely to cooperate 600 00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:46,120 with our military. 601 00:23:46,207 --> 00:23:47,556 Mr. Secretary, could this endanger the safety 602 00:23:47,643 --> 00:23:48,731 of our troops in the field? 603 00:23:48,818 --> 00:23:50,254 Objection, Your Honor. 604 00:23:50,341 --> 00:23:51,995 Again overruled. 605 00:23:52,082 --> 00:23:53,301 In general, when we don't 606 00:23:53,388 --> 00:23:55,042 have cooperation, 607 00:23:55,129 --> 00:23:57,000 the safety of our troops becomes an issue. 608 00:23:57,087 --> 00:23:59,612 Sir, have the general's statements given ammunition 609 00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:01,701 to Islamic extremists in their efforts 610 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:02,876 to gain new recruits? 611 00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:04,791 They could have, yes. 612 00:24:04,878 --> 00:24:06,706 And how have the general's statements affected Muslims 613 00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:08,359 in the United States military? 614 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,666 I can't imagine they're too happy about it. 615 00:24:10,753 --> 00:24:12,886 They didn't sign up to be in a Christian army. 616 00:24:12,973 --> 00:24:14,670 They signed up 617 00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:16,019 to be American servicemen and women. 618 00:24:16,106 --> 00:24:17,673 Thank you, Mr. Secretary. 619 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,153 You're welcome. 620 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,807 Sir, aside from Marine Corporal Hamud, 621 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:22,635 have any other Muslim serviceman ever complained 622 00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:24,201 about General Watson? 623 00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:25,681 According to Headquarters, Marine Corps, 624 00:24:25,768 --> 00:24:27,291 there have been no other complaints. 625 00:24:27,378 --> 00:24:29,293 Have the general's words had any clear 626 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:31,295 and direct impact on the war on terrorism, sir? 627 00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:34,603 There's been no direct impact that I could quantify. 628 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:36,692 Have the general's statements inflamed 629 00:24:36,779 --> 00:24:38,564 any moderate Muslims and caused them 630 00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:40,566 to pick up the bloody sword of jihad? 631 00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:42,132 Not to my knowledge, Commander. 632 00:24:42,219 --> 00:24:43,830 How has the general performed in his mission 633 00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:45,309 to capture Saddam Hussein 634 00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:46,659 and other Baathist loyalists, sir? 635 00:24:46,746 --> 00:24:48,661 Admirably. 636 00:24:48,748 --> 00:24:50,271 He was instrumental in the capture 637 00:24:50,358 --> 00:24:51,664 of over 45 of the targets 638 00:24:51,751 --> 00:24:53,666 in the famous deck of cards. 639 00:24:53,753 --> 00:24:55,276 Do you feel, Mr. Secretary, 640 00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:57,278 removing General Watson from this assignment 641 00:24:57,365 --> 00:25:00,107 would negatively impact the war on terrorism? 642 00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:03,371 You could definitely make that argument. 643 00:25:03,458 --> 00:25:05,634 You have calls from the Anti-Defamation League, 644 00:25:05,721 --> 00:25:07,810 the Council for Islamic Relations, 645 00:25:07,897 --> 00:25:10,334 the American Association of Churches. 646 00:25:10,421 --> 00:25:15,426 Coates, in the 1930s, do you know who the most famous Jew was? 647 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,864 Uh... Albert Einstein, sir? 648 00:25:17,951 --> 00:25:20,040 More famous than Einstein. 649 00:25:20,127 --> 00:25:22,042 Sigmund Freud? 650 00:25:22,129 --> 00:25:25,001 More famous than Freud. 651 00:25:25,088 --> 00:25:26,263 I give up, sir. 652 00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:28,222 Hank Greenberg. 653 00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:30,877 Hank Greenberg, sir? 654 00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:32,531 A.k.a. Hammering Hank. 655 00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:34,707 Hall of Fame, first baseman, left-fielder. 656 00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:37,405 Led the Detroit Tigers to four World Series. 657 00:25:37,492 --> 00:25:39,973 It figures this would be about baseball, sir. 658 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:43,542 Hank Greenberg did more to combat anti-Semitism 659 00:25:43,629 --> 00:25:45,892 in the '30s than any other man. 660 00:25:45,979 --> 00:25:50,244 When you're rooting for a Jewish guy to hit one over the fence, 661 00:25:50,331 --> 00:25:52,463 it makes it harder to hate Jews. 662 00:25:54,944 --> 00:25:56,772 Coates, you know what this world needs? 663 00:25:56,859 --> 00:25:58,557 Stockings that don't run, sir? 664 00:25:58,644 --> 00:26:01,255 A Muslim who can hit 60 home runs. 665 00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:03,300 But we have had famous Muslim 666 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:04,780 athletes, sir. 667 00:26:04,867 --> 00:26:06,782 Muhammed Ali, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar... 668 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:11,482 I know, I know, I know, but it's... not baseball. 669 00:26:13,528 --> 00:26:15,574 Petty Officer, may I see you for a minute? 670 00:26:15,661 --> 00:26:17,401 Is something wrong, ma'am? 671 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:18,925 In my office. 672 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:27,629 Petty Officer, we have a question. 673 00:26:27,716 --> 00:26:30,066 Is Meredith's marriage to the admiral on or off? 674 00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:31,720 Sir, I-I don't think I'm at liberty... 675 00:26:31,807 --> 00:26:33,243 We need to know for sure, Jennifer. 676 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:35,289 Otherwise, one of us is going to embarrass 677 00:26:35,376 --> 00:26:37,030 ourselves by asking. 678 00:26:37,117 --> 00:26:38,901 Incurring the admiral's wrath, which we don't want. 679 00:26:38,988 --> 00:26:41,861 I hear that... sir. 680 00:26:41,948 --> 00:26:43,558 We have to know if the wedding is on 681 00:26:43,645 --> 00:26:45,342 so that we can all make plans. 682 00:26:45,429 --> 00:26:47,083 Sir, the admiral has never told me anything directly. 683 00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:51,087 You know something. 684 00:26:51,174 --> 00:26:54,961 And those are two words the admiral won't be saying. 685 00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:59,356 Americans, for some reason, can't seem to tell 686 00:26:59,443 --> 00:27:01,054 the difference between real Islam 687 00:27:01,141 --> 00:27:03,099 and the terrorists' perversion of Islam. 688 00:27:03,186 --> 00:27:07,364 When I saw the general's sermon on television, I was disturbed. 689 00:27:07,451 --> 00:27:08,801 Why is that, General Jabra? 690 00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:10,629 I've always admired General Watson. 691 00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:11,891 I fought beside him. 692 00:27:11,978 --> 00:27:13,588 I've trusted him with my life. 693 00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:16,069 Now I learn that he despises my religion. 694 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:18,898 My feeling was, in a sense... 695 00:27:18,985 --> 00:27:20,769 he despises me. 696 00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:22,902 Did your fellow Iraqi military and police officers 697 00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:24,860 have similar reactions? 698 00:27:24,947 --> 00:27:26,166 Some of them heard the general. 699 00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:27,341 It didn't really bother them. 700 00:27:27,428 --> 00:27:29,604 They said it was just words. 701 00:27:29,691 --> 00:27:31,824 How did the other Iraqi officers react? 702 00:27:31,911 --> 00:27:33,782 Many Iraqis, including military officers, 703 00:27:33,869 --> 00:27:36,742 are saying, "You see what these Americans think of us? 704 00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:39,440 "No wonder the reconstruction is going so slowly," 705 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,572 that "They don't really give a damn." 706 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,618 Thank you. 707 00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:45,533 Your witness. 708 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:50,059 General, are the Iraqi people grateful that Saddam Hussein 709 00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:51,234 and his cohorts are gone? 710 00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:53,106 No question. 711 00:27:53,193 --> 00:27:55,499 Are they aware of General Watson's role in that, sir? 712 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:56,892 They know that the general 713 00:27:56,979 --> 00:27:58,720 has been effective 714 00:27:58,807 --> 00:28:00,504 in bringing torturers and murderers to justice. 715 00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:02,245 Do you feel the Iraqi people, 716 00:28:02,332 --> 00:28:04,508 in the light of everything General Watson has done, 717 00:28:04,595 --> 00:28:05,945 could forgive his comments? 718 00:28:06,032 --> 00:28:07,729 I can only speak for myself, Commander. 719 00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:09,862 Please do, sir. 720 00:28:09,949 --> 00:28:13,213 When I saw the general's comments on television, 721 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,476 the ones that have been verified, 722 00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:18,609 he made them right after 9/11. 723 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:21,438 For that reason, I'm willing-- as you would say-- 724 00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:22,831 "Cut him some slack." 725 00:28:22,918 --> 00:28:26,008 Also... 726 00:28:26,095 --> 00:28:28,750 Also what, sir? 727 00:28:28,837 --> 00:28:31,448 I do not wish to offend. 728 00:28:31,535 --> 00:28:35,452 However, I sometimes personally feel as though Christianity 729 00:28:35,539 --> 00:28:37,454 is a very odd religion. 730 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,936 You have a Father, a Son, a Holy Ghost? 731 00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:44,331 What is this-- one God, three gods, what? 732 00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:46,812 So... 733 00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:49,684 if I find your religion a little bizarre, 734 00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:52,600 I can't get too angry with you for finding mine... 735 00:28:52,687 --> 00:28:55,516 equally strange. 736 00:28:55,603 --> 00:28:57,823 TV REPORTER: Today's witnesses were a mixed bag 737 00:28:57,910 --> 00:28:59,563 for the prosecution. 738 00:28:59,650 --> 00:29:01,478 In fact, some foreign observers questioned whether 739 00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:03,916 the prosecution is actually trying to win this case, 740 00:29:04,003 --> 00:29:05,482 since it could prove embarrassing 741 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:07,223 for the government. 742 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:08,355 Stupid twit. 743 00:29:08,442 --> 00:29:10,183 Well, that we agree on. 744 00:29:10,270 --> 00:29:11,445 Listen, I need your witness list for tomorrow. 745 00:29:11,532 --> 00:29:12,707 Still working on it. 746 00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,404 Mac, you know... Skip it, Harm. 747 00:29:14,491 --> 00:29:16,102 I'm not interested in a deal. Neither am I. 748 00:29:16,189 --> 00:29:18,626 In fact, I think you should have the charges dropped. 749 00:29:18,713 --> 00:29:19,845 Dream on. 750 00:29:19,932 --> 00:29:21,411 All you have are statements 751 00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:23,065 the general made right after 9/11. 752 00:29:23,152 --> 00:29:25,198 And the ones he made at the Alexandria Baptist Church 753 00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:27,330 less than one month ago. 754 00:29:27,417 --> 00:29:29,680 There's no objective record of his statements, Mac. 755 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,813 You call witnesses to testify that he attacked Islam 756 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:33,641 and the church; I'll call witnesses 757 00:29:33,728 --> 00:29:35,338 who remember the exact opposite. 758 00:29:35,425 --> 00:29:37,906 MAN: I believe Commander Turner's 759 00:29:37,993 --> 00:29:39,603 racially biased against Koreans. 760 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:41,083 And you believe this bias 761 00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:42,911 restricted your ability to gather intel. 762 00:29:42,998 --> 00:29:44,043 It did, Lieutenant. 763 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:45,609 In what way? 764 00:29:45,696 --> 00:29:47,786 A North Korean submarine crew was rescued 765 00:29:47,873 --> 00:29:49,439 by one of our attack subs. 766 00:29:49,526 --> 00:29:50,876 Commander Turner allowed a sailor 767 00:29:50,963 --> 00:29:52,791 to antagonize a North Korean skipper, 768 00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:54,488 who became mentally agitated. 769 00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:57,404 Then Commander Turner supported him being tied up. 770 00:29:57,491 --> 00:29:59,188 That shut him down completely, 771 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:01,147 rendering him useless as an intelligence source. 772 00:30:01,234 --> 00:30:03,627 I'm sorry, Lieutenant, I don't understand 773 00:30:03,714 --> 00:30:05,629 how racial bias comes into play here. 774 00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:08,110 Commander Turner made statements 775 00:30:08,197 --> 00:30:11,070 which suggested he had little respect for Koreans. 776 00:30:11,157 --> 00:30:13,986 I believe this attitude motivated his treatment 777 00:30:14,073 --> 00:30:16,205 of the North Korean skipper. 778 00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:17,728 Lieutenant, it says here in your file 779 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,208 that when you were a child, 780 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:20,644 a black man robbed and shot your father 781 00:30:20,731 --> 00:30:23,299 in his convenience store. 782 00:30:23,386 --> 00:30:25,084 Yes. 783 00:30:25,171 --> 00:30:26,955 Did that affect your opinion of Commander Turner? 784 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:29,349 Commander Turner didn't shoot my father, Lieutenant. 785 00:30:29,436 --> 00:30:31,090 No, but I spoke with your father 786 00:30:31,177 --> 00:30:32,526 yesterday about the man who didshoot him. 787 00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:34,615 And he referred to his assailant as a "nigger." 788 00:30:34,702 --> 00:30:37,009 Have you ever used that word, Lieutenant? 789 00:30:37,096 --> 00:30:38,967 No. 790 00:30:39,054 --> 00:30:40,708 How do you feel about your father using that word? 791 00:30:40,795 --> 00:30:42,275 I do not approve, Lieutenant. 792 00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:43,842 But you understand why he speaks that way. 793 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:47,106 Yes. 794 00:30:47,193 --> 00:30:48,411 Did what happen 795 00:30:48,498 --> 00:30:50,196 make you angry, Lieutenant? 796 00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:51,632 At times. 797 00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:55,157 As angry as your father? 798 00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:57,725 Lieutenant, you have had six months 799 00:30:57,812 --> 00:30:59,858 to think about your accusations. 800 00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:02,338 Can you honestly tell me that you haven't 801 00:31:02,425 --> 00:31:04,819 at least once during that time, questioned your motives? 802 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:14,220 MACKENZIE: Sturgis, we need to establish 803 00:31:14,307 --> 00:31:16,091 a continuing pattern of anti-Islamic remarks. 804 00:31:16,178 --> 00:31:17,397 That would be good. 805 00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:18,877 Maybe we should call witnesses 806 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:20,791 from the church in Alexandria. 807 00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,750 We need some kind of physical evidence to back them up. 808 00:31:22,837 --> 00:31:25,492 Anybody can claim someone else made prejudiced remarks. 809 00:31:25,579 --> 00:31:27,755 I don't know how much weight that should really carry. 810 00:31:27,842 --> 00:31:29,322 I understand Lieutenant Yi is topside. 811 00:31:29,409 --> 00:31:31,106 I'm sure it's going to be all right. 812 00:31:31,193 --> 00:31:33,239 Racial issues are so subjective. 813 00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:36,242 How do you know for sure I'm not anti-Korean? 814 00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,244 How do I know? 815 00:31:38,331 --> 00:31:40,333 Well, for one thing, you don't have a continuing pattern 816 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:41,508 of anti-Korean remarks. 817 00:31:42,988 --> 00:31:45,773 What is on your computer? 818 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:48,123 These are the slides the general couldn't show in Alexandria 819 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,865 because the projector broke down. 820 00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:52,867 I'm not sure where this is, maybe Baghdad. 821 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:54,651 Maybe he showed these 822 00:31:54,738 --> 00:31:56,001 at one of the other churches he spoke at recently. 823 00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:57,132 Anything we can use? 824 00:31:57,219 --> 00:31:58,612 Depends on the commentary 825 00:31:58,699 --> 00:31:59,830 he gave when he ran the slides. 826 00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,313 These are the same slides General Watson showed 827 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,229 at my church in Baltimore five months ago. 828 00:32:07,316 --> 00:32:08,535 For the record, Reverend Haynes, 829 00:32:08,622 --> 00:32:10,189 what does this slide show? 830 00:32:10,276 --> 00:32:11,973 Our Lord Jesus Christ. 831 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:14,410 And this next slide shows? 832 00:32:14,497 --> 00:32:15,934 The Devil. 833 00:32:16,021 --> 00:32:17,979 And how about this one? 834 00:32:18,066 --> 00:32:20,068 It's a map of the world 835 00:32:20,155 --> 00:32:21,983 with the Muslim countries in red. 836 00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:23,854 Why did General Watson put this slide right after the Devil? 837 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,639 Objection: calls for an opinion. 838 00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:28,685 I'll allow it for now. Overruled. 839 00:32:28,772 --> 00:32:32,820 He was making a point that in these Muslim countries, 840 00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:34,909 the Devil is fighting for power. 841 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:36,780 When he made this point, 842 00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:38,652 was the general wearing a Marine Corps uniform? 843 00:32:38,739 --> 00:32:40,610 Yes, he was. 844 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:46,312 Did the general explain the significance of this slide? 845 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:49,271 It's a photograph that the general took of Baghdad on fire. 846 00:32:49,358 --> 00:32:52,405 And why did he say he included this one? 847 00:32:52,492 --> 00:32:54,798 Um... 848 00:32:54,885 --> 00:32:58,237 when I invited the general to speak at my church, 849 00:32:58,324 --> 00:33:01,501 I wasn't aware what his views were. 850 00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,285 What did he say? 851 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:06,201 That if you look closely enough in the smoke, 852 00:33:06,288 --> 00:33:09,030 you can see the Devil. 853 00:33:09,117 --> 00:33:11,859 Exactly where would that be, Reverend Haynes? 854 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:19,040 I really don't know, Commander. 855 00:33:28,658 --> 00:33:30,225 [ knocking] ROBERTS: Do you have a moment, sir? 856 00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:31,966 Come on in, Lieutenant. 857 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,229 Heard you had a good day in court. 858 00:33:34,316 --> 00:33:36,101 Sometimes you get lucky. 859 00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:38,016 I have some information, sir. 860 00:33:38,103 --> 00:33:39,930 I've just been informed that Lieutenant Yi 861 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:42,542 has decided to drop all charges against you. 862 00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:45,327 [ chuckles] 863 00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,504 What, uh, did you say to him, Lieutenant? 864 00:33:48,591 --> 00:33:50,376 Oh, nothing special. 865 00:33:50,463 --> 00:33:51,768 Actually, I got him to think a little bit more 866 00:33:51,855 --> 00:33:53,379 about what hewas saying, sir. 867 00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:55,598 Also, I threatened to punch his lights out. 868 00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,385 I appreciate that, Lieutenant. 869 00:33:59,472 --> 00:34:01,430 Sir, there is no way I was gonna let you down this time. 870 00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:08,698 I believe that God is with us every day. 871 00:34:08,785 --> 00:34:10,613 He gives us signs, 872 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:13,877 and the reason we pray is so that we can see these signs 873 00:34:13,964 --> 00:34:15,966 and understand God's will for us. 874 00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:18,056 And one of these signs appeared to you 875 00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:19,492 in the smoke over Baghdad? 876 00:34:19,579 --> 00:34:21,276 Commander, 877 00:34:21,363 --> 00:34:25,280 I believe that in the middle of that fierce battle, 878 00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:28,283 when my life and the lives of thousands of others 879 00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:33,984 were in danger, God allowed me to see the face of the Devil. 880 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:41,470 But you think I'm a nut, don't you? 881 00:34:41,557 --> 00:34:43,690 No, no, I don't, sir. 882 00:34:43,777 --> 00:34:45,605 I have no doubt that in war 883 00:34:45,692 --> 00:34:48,782 some people have very intense spiritual experiences. 884 00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:52,351 Unfortunately, we live 885 00:34:52,438 --> 00:34:56,398 in a profoundly antireligious culture. 886 00:34:56,485 --> 00:34:58,966 Have you been watching the news, Commander? 887 00:34:59,053 --> 00:35:00,620 No, sir. I have. 888 00:35:00,707 --> 00:35:02,404 It's a mistake, General. 889 00:35:02,491 --> 00:35:04,885 They're going out of their way to make 890 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:06,582 my religious beliefs look foolish. 891 00:35:06,669 --> 00:35:08,410 Sir, tomorrow in your testimony, 892 00:35:08,497 --> 00:35:09,933 you're gonna need to play down 893 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:11,979 some of your more controversial views. 894 00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,503 I refuse to lie about what I believe in. 895 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:16,462 General, like it or not, 896 00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:18,725 we need to counteract the bad press you've been getting. 897 00:35:18,812 --> 00:35:21,554 [ sighs] 898 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,515 Commander, I hate to take personal credit 899 00:35:26,602 --> 00:35:28,648 for deeds I've done in the name of Jesus, 900 00:35:28,735 --> 00:35:33,392 but perhaps... there is one potential witness 901 00:35:33,479 --> 00:35:35,524 that might be of some help. 902 00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:39,441 My husband Ayman was in a unit 903 00:35:39,528 --> 00:35:42,488 commanded by General Jabra and General Watson. 904 00:35:42,575 --> 00:35:45,360 RABB: What happened to your husband, Mrs. Sattar? 905 00:35:45,447 --> 00:35:48,146 He was killed in a fedayeen ambush. 906 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:51,018 RABB: How did you meet General Watson, ma'am? 907 00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,455 He came to our house to show his respects. 908 00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:55,675 Then he found out 909 00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:58,547 I have breast cancer, and the Iraqi hospital could not help me. 910 00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,332 What did the general do? 911 00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:02,464 He said that the United States 912 00:36:02,551 --> 00:36:05,815 owed my family because my husband fought so bravely. 913 00:36:05,902 --> 00:36:08,078 So he brought me to this country. 914 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,732 I live in an apartment 915 00:36:09,819 --> 00:36:11,169 owned by his church. 916 00:36:11,256 --> 00:36:13,997 The church pays for my treatments. 917 00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:17,958 Why did he do that, Mrs. Sattar? 918 00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:20,482 Because he is a good man. 919 00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:24,573 RABB: Has General Watson ever tried to convert you to Christianity? 920 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:27,315 General Watson and his fellow church members 921 00:36:27,402 --> 00:36:30,710 drive me to a mosque every Friday night for services. 922 00:36:30,797 --> 00:36:32,625 Thank you, Mrs. Sattar, 923 00:36:32,712 --> 00:36:35,193 and I hope you recover fully, ma'am. 924 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,542 Thank you. 925 00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:42,548 The government has no questions for this witness, Your Honor. 926 00:36:42,635 --> 00:36:44,332 I can't change what I believe, 927 00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:46,116 and what I believe is that we are engaged 928 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:47,857 in far more than a physical battle. 929 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:49,859 We are fighting for the good of mankind. 930 00:36:49,946 --> 00:36:51,470 Have your beliefs ever interfered 931 00:36:51,557 --> 00:36:53,123 in the performance of your duties, sir? 932 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,734 On the contrary, Commander. 933 00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:56,518 My beliefs have given me the courage 934 00:36:56,605 --> 00:36:58,477 to go out on the front line and risk my life. 935 00:36:58,564 --> 00:37:00,348 Have you ever mistreated 936 00:37:00,435 --> 00:37:02,568 personnel under your command who didn't share 937 00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:04,352 your beliefs, sir? I try to treat people of every religion 938 00:37:04,439 --> 00:37:06,441 as if they were my brother and sister. 939 00:37:06,528 --> 00:37:08,661 Is that why you brought Mrs. Sattar to this country 940 00:37:08,748 --> 00:37:10,402 for medical treatment, sir? 941 00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:11,881 Yes. 942 00:37:11,968 --> 00:37:13,535 Have you had problems with Muslims 943 00:37:13,622 --> 00:37:15,711 under your command in the past, sir? 944 00:37:15,798 --> 00:37:19,106 WATSON: I've commanded Muslims and Jews and even a Buddhists. 945 00:37:19,193 --> 00:37:21,587 The only problem I had was when the Buddhist 946 00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:23,328 kept beating everybody in poker. 947 00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:25,460 [ laughter] 948 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:27,810 Why did you talk about your religious beliefs in public, sir? 949 00:37:27,897 --> 00:37:30,596 I talked about my religion in churches. 950 00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:33,903 It's enough we can't pray in our schools now. 951 00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:35,688 I hope we haven't gotten to the point 952 00:37:35,775 --> 00:37:38,560 where a Christian man can't express Christian views 953 00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:40,606 while speaking inside a Christian church. 954 00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:43,043 Thank you, General. 955 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:44,653 Your witness. 956 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:47,090 General Watson, when you speak in churches, 957 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,179 are you, uh, acting as a private citizen 958 00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:52,052 or as a spokesman for the United State military? 959 00:37:52,139 --> 00:37:54,184 As a private citizen. Well, then 960 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:55,838 why wear your military uniform, sir? 961 00:37:55,925 --> 00:37:57,840 Doesn't that give people a false impression? 962 00:37:57,927 --> 00:37:59,581 Colonel, I always make it clear 963 00:37:59,668 --> 00:38:01,148 that I'm giving personal witness. 964 00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:03,106 Wouldn't it have been much more clear 965 00:38:03,193 --> 00:38:05,152 if you had chosen to wear civilian dress? 966 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,634 The congregations understood that my opinions were my own. 967 00:38:08,721 --> 00:38:10,723 Sir, did you ever clear 968 00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:13,465 your speeches with the chain of command or Public Affairs, 969 00:38:13,552 --> 00:38:15,162 as required by regulations? 970 00:38:15,249 --> 00:38:17,947 These were church sermons, not public speeches. 971 00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:20,298 Well, they became very public, didn't they, General? 972 00:38:20,385 --> 00:38:22,169 That wasn't my choice, Colonel. 973 00:38:22,256 --> 00:38:24,171 You spoke in front of a ZNN camera crew 974 00:38:24,258 --> 00:38:26,608 at an interfaith service. 975 00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:29,655 The service took place in a Marine chapel. 976 00:38:29,742 --> 00:38:31,961 I assumed it was a regular church service. 977 00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:34,181 As far as speaking in front of a TV crew, 978 00:38:34,268 --> 00:38:36,966 that was a mistake-- especially since 979 00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:39,491 some of my statements were mischaracterized by the media. 980 00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,667 MACKENZIE: Well, let's talk about your statements, sir. 981 00:38:41,754 --> 00:38:44,017 Did you say, as Reverend Haynes testified, 982 00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:46,019 that in all these Muslim countries, 983 00:38:46,106 --> 00:38:48,717 the Devil is fighting for power? 984 00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:50,415 I believe the Devil 985 00:38:50,502 --> 00:38:52,373 is fighting for power all over the world. 986 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:54,854 Well, then why single out the Muslim countries? 987 00:38:54,941 --> 00:38:56,551 I wasn't criticizing Islam per se, 988 00:38:56,638 --> 00:38:58,510 but we'd be foolish not to recognize 989 00:38:58,597 --> 00:39:00,729 that the terrorists we're fighting 990 00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:04,167 are Muslims. So what exactly are you saying about Muslims, sir? 991 00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:05,821 Objection. The General's personal beliefs 992 00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:07,736 are not on trial here. 993 00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:09,434 No, but his public statements expressing them are. 994 00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:10,522 Overruled. 995 00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:12,567 Please answer, sir. 996 00:39:12,654 --> 00:39:16,223 I believe the vast majority of Muslims are good people. 997 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:19,748 But I also believe that Islam throughout history 998 00:39:19,835 --> 00:39:22,621 has frequently motivated some of its practitioners 999 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,580 to declare jihad, and that is what is happening now. 1000 00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:27,321 What does "jihad" mean, sir? 1001 00:39:27,408 --> 00:39:28,670 Holy war. 1002 00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:31,064 Mm. 1003 00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:34,546 General, are you aware that "jihad" actually means 1004 00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:36,635 to struggle or strive for something, 1005 00:39:36,722 --> 00:39:39,333 such as the welfare of one's fellow human beings, 1006 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,380 and is often used in a totally peaceful context. 1007 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,599 That's not how I've heard it used, Colonel. 1008 00:39:44,686 --> 00:39:46,296 Sir, are you aware that Islam, 1009 00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:48,560 like Christianity and Judaism, 1010 00:39:48,647 --> 00:39:50,692 only considers warfare justified if it's in self-defense, 1011 00:39:50,779 --> 00:39:52,694 or to liberate people who are suffering 1012 00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:54,435 from persecution and tyranny? 1013 00:39:57,307 --> 00:39:58,570 I'm not aware of that, no. 1014 00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:00,528 Are you aware that Islam, 1015 00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:02,661 again, like Christianity and Judaism, has rules about war 1016 00:40:02,748 --> 00:40:05,403 that prohibit killing children, women, 1017 00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:07,143 the elderly, and other noncombatants. 1018 00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:09,450 That's not the way our enemy's acting, Colonel. 1019 00:40:09,537 --> 00:40:11,409 Sir, are you aware that Islam 1020 00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:14,629 specifically prohibits suicide, including suicide bombings? 1021 00:40:14,716 --> 00:40:16,109 Then why are they doing it? 1022 00:40:16,196 --> 00:40:18,111 Because they are not following Islam 1023 00:40:18,198 --> 00:40:20,418 any more than Timothy McVeigh was following Christianity. 1024 00:40:20,505 --> 00:40:22,811 Objection. Counsel is testifying now, Your Honor. 1025 00:40:22,898 --> 00:40:25,118 Withdrawn. General, don't you think that you should know 1026 00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:26,728 a little more about Islam 1027 00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:28,208 before you start discussing it in public? 1028 00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:29,731 Your Honor, while the general may not be 1029 00:40:29,818 --> 00:40:31,429 an expert on comparative religions, 1030 00:40:31,516 --> 00:40:33,431 that has little to do with this court-martial. 1031 00:40:33,518 --> 00:40:35,389 Your Honor, General Watson has spread 1032 00:40:35,476 --> 00:40:37,173 false, hateful stereotypes 1033 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:38,697 against another religion, and in so doing, 1034 00:40:38,784 --> 00:40:40,525 has hurt our image abroad, contributing 1035 00:40:40,612 --> 00:40:42,222 [ Rabb and MacKenzie speaking at once] 1036 00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:43,702 ...and possibly increased risk 1037 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:45,138 to the members of the U.S. military. 1038 00:40:45,225 --> 00:40:47,662 Save it for closing arguments. 1039 00:40:47,749 --> 00:40:50,012 Do you have any more questions for this witness? 1040 00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:52,058 Just one, Your Honor. 1041 00:40:54,147 --> 00:40:55,975 General Watson, 1042 00:40:56,062 --> 00:40:58,978 based on your experiences as a military officer, 1043 00:40:59,065 --> 00:41:00,109 do you believe 1044 00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:02,024 that your statements on Islam 1045 00:41:02,111 --> 00:41:05,419 aided the war on terrorism or damaged it? 1046 00:41:05,506 --> 00:41:09,031 Colonel, I have devoted my life to the service of this country, 1047 00:41:09,118 --> 00:41:11,643 and I believe I still have much to give. 1048 00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:13,906 You want to take me to task for being intolerant of Islam. 1049 00:41:13,993 --> 00:41:16,865 Well, I ask youto be tolerant of mybeliefs. 1050 00:41:16,952 --> 00:41:20,608 All I ever did was speak honestly, from my heart. 1051 00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:22,828 For that, I do not think I should be relieved 1052 00:41:22,915 --> 00:41:24,569 of my duties in the Marine Corps. 1053 00:41:27,049 --> 00:41:30,052 JUDGE: Defendant and counsel will rise. 1054 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:33,273 Will the senior member please announce the findings. 1055 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,798 SENIOR MEMBER: Major General Earl Watson, United States Marine Corps, 1056 00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,148 On the charges and specifications 1057 00:41:39,235 --> 00:41:42,935 of dereliction of duty and conduct unbecoming an officer, 1058 00:41:43,022 --> 00:41:45,067 this court-martial finds you... 1059 00:41:45,154 --> 00:41:46,547 not guilty. 1060 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:50,682 JUDGE: General Watson, 1061 00:41:50,769 --> 00:41:53,685 while this court has found you not guilty, 1062 00:41:53,772 --> 00:41:56,383 I intend to recommend to the convening authority 1063 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:57,906 that you be formally counseled, 1064 00:41:57,993 --> 00:42:00,430 and ordered not to assert your beliefs 1065 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,432 in public forums. 1066 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,696 Despite your impassioned statement, 1067 00:42:04,783 --> 00:42:07,046 the right of free speech in the military 1068 00:42:07,133 --> 00:42:10,223 must be balanced with the primary mission 1069 00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:12,791 of defending our country. 1070 00:42:12,878 --> 00:42:15,620 There is no place for inflammatory remarks 1071 00:42:15,707 --> 00:42:17,883 about religion in today's Marine Corps. 1072 00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:24,411 This court is hereby adjourned. 1073 00:42:24,498 --> 00:42:26,369 No hard feelings, Colonel. 1074 00:42:26,456 --> 00:42:28,720 We're all serving our country in different ways. 1075 00:42:28,807 --> 00:42:31,374 MAN [ over TV] This was the scene today near Fallouja, 1076 00:42:31,461 --> 00:42:33,463 where at least 18 Marines have been killed 1077 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:35,335 in a suicide bombing. 1078 00:42:35,422 --> 00:42:39,426 A previously unknown group called The Fire of Allah 1079 00:42:39,513 --> 00:42:41,428 claimed responsibility for what they called 1080 00:42:41,515 --> 00:42:43,952 a "glorious victory in this holy war." 1081 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,607 The message was delivered in an audiotape 1082 00:42:46,694 --> 00:42:48,566 which was left anonymously 1083 00:42:48,653 --> 00:42:51,481 at the Al Jazeera headquarters in Cairo. 1084 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,353 If you'll excuse me. 1085 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,008 ...deadliest single attack on American troops 1086 00:42:56,095 --> 00:42:58,793 since the war in Iraq began one year ago. 1087 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,492 Well, this is why we need men like General Watson. 1088 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:03,755 Or not. 1089 00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,157 [ closing theme music playing] 82527

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