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Tonight, on History's Greatest
Mysteries.
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Ready to find D .B. Cooper?
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Do you think that he could be D .B.
Cooper? Yeah, I do. I think I pinpointed
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where it is. This could be our smoking
gun.
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They've got to take this back when we
open it.
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It's a mystery that's confounded law
enforcement for 48 years.
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On November 24th, 1971, a man who would
become known as D .B. Cooper
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hijacks a plane and then jumps out,
taking with him a ransom of $200 ,000.
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I'm Lawrence Fishburne, and tonight, who
is D .B. Cooper, and how did he
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escape?
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Neither his identity nor his body has
ever been recovered.
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It's impossible.
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Or is it?
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Can investigator Eric Euless finally
close the only unsolved skyjacking in U
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history?
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Eric and his team will re -examine the
plane's alleged flight path. They'll
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search alternate landing sites for fresh
clues and profile a possible suspect.
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Tonight, a search for new answers to one
of history's greatest mysteries.
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Who is D .B. Cooper.
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D .B. Cooper investigator Eric Uless is
on his way to Washington State, but his
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research and investigation started 12
years earlier.
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in Arizona.
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I've always had a fascination with
aviation, which is what I believe
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drew me into the case. Here was a man
who developed a cult -like following
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the years, despite the fact that nobody
really knew anything about the guy at
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all. He became a legend overnight.
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I think DB is like the coolest guy in
America. He did the ultimate crime.
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Eventually, I found the case was being
hijacked by conspiracy theories and so
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forth. And I just ended up getting
sucked into this D .B. Cooper vortex,
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ultimately I decided that I was going to
undertake an investigation of my own
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into the case.
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Over the years, more than 1 ,000
suspects have been scrutinized. When
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happened in the 1970s, the era of DNA
was not upon us, and agents really
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didn't look out to preserve this
evidence in the way that we do now.
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In order to identify...
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where the FBI and others went sideways
with this case, I knew that I was going
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to have to personally read all 20 ,000
pages of redacted FBI files regarding
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case. Thanks to a Freedom of Information
Act lawsuit filed in 2016, every few
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months the FBI releases files from the
case in chronological order. This
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constant drip of new information and new
sources is key to Eric's theory about
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what really happened.
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on Northwest Flight 305.
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The night of the skyjacking, we know a
man boarded Northwest Orient Flight in
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Portland, destined for Seattle.
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He bought the ticket with $20 bill at
the airport.
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There was no ID required, and he gave
the name Dan Cooper to the ticket agent.
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He would end up taking a seat in the
very back row of the jet, 18E to be
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The flight attendants recall D .B.
Cooper being a guy who was in his mid
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dressed as a business person wearing a
black suit, wearing loafers with a
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black tie and a raincoat.
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And he would later put on a pair of dark
sunglasses as the jet was about to take
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off. By his side, he had a black attaché
case.
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As the plane starts taxiing toward the
runway, D .B. Cooper hands one of the
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flight attendants, Florence Schaffner, a
note.
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which says that he has a bomb.
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36 passengers got off the jetliner in
Seattle last night, left aboard four
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members and the hijacker, dressed in a
business suit demanding $200 ,000. With
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the full ransom collected from Seattle
banks and four parachutes aboard, the
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plane headed for Reno.
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What many people don't know is that Reno
was not the intended destination.
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Cooper actually requested that the plane
fly to Mexico nonstop.
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But the problem is that he wanted the
jet to fly with the landing gear down.
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wanted the jet to fly with the flaps
down.
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He wanted the jet to fly at a very slow
speed and not fly over 10 ,000 feet in
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altitude. So there was simply no way
that they could fly nonstop to Mexico
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They would need to refuel somewhere, and
they decided Reno.
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According to Eric, Cooper's request to
be flown to Mexico was a ruse.
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Seven minutes after the plane left
Seattle, the flight crew received an
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The rear air stairs were activated.
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The Boeing 727 was unique in that it had
air stairs that would deploy from the
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back bottom of the fuselage.
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In fact, it's these air stairs that the
passengers actually boarded the jet
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with.
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Roughly 27 minutes after the air stairs
deployment alert, the crew experienced a
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cabin pressure disturbance.
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At approximately 8 .12 p .m., the pilots
experienced what they described as a
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pressure bump on the plane.
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What felt like a popping in the ears.
This pressure bump was created when D
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Cooper jumped off the back air stairs
and the air stairs snapped back up into
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the bottom of the fuselage.
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That bump holds the key to everything.
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Estimating where and when that bump took
place is key.
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It determined the area in which FBI, Air
Force, and local law enforcement
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members looked for Cooper in a
coordinated ground search that lasted
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The FBI never found anything in their
original search area, and my research
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indicates that the reason they came up
empty -handed is because they were
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actually searching in the wrong place.
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Why were they searching in the wrong
place?
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Because the flight path was off.
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Understanding that pressure bump and
identifying the correct search area will
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allow us to ask the basic fundamental
question.
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To test his theory about the plane's
path, Eric is meeting with the person
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charged with tracking flight 305 on the
night of the hijacking, the air traffic
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controller on duty, Cliff Ammerman.
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My name is Cliff Ammerman, and I'm a
retired air traffic controller.
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I worked at Seattle Center Air Route
Traffic Control from 1969 until 1998.
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Did the FBI or law enforcement at all
ever reach out to you?
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Never did. I never got a request like
that at all. What did you know about
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I mean, I assume you knew it was a
skyjack jet.
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We knew it was a hijacking.
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We didn't have a flight plan on it
because nobody knew exactly what the
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was going to be, so we were told just
follow him, keep everybody else away
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him. It became fairly obvious that he
was on Victor 2 -3.
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Victor 2 -3 is one airway in a low
-altitude airway structure that's
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It's a system of ground -based
navigational aids that pilots can
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allows them to hold a track over the
ground.
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Just like when you're on Interstate 5 in
a car, Victor 2 -3 is the highway in
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the sky.
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The first priority here when tackling
this case is trying to figure out the
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that the jet took.
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Can you gauge how precisely you could
identify the exact location of Flight
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Yeah, what I'm looking at is a map on a
video screen.
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Aircrafts are being presented in what
would look to you like an equal sign.
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on the leading slash...
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The aircraft itself could be any place
on that line. So it could be in the
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center. It might be at the left side of
the line. It might be at the right side.
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We don't know. Any idea of roughly what
kind of distance you're looking at
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there? I would guess four to five
nautical miles long that line is.
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How do you know that he's actually
within Victor 23 if you've got sort of
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much play there?
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It's very uncertain just exactly where
the airplane was within that.
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target area that we're seeing.
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So where's the airplane actually?
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There's quite a bit of variance in
there.
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Indeed, the jet could have actually been
a handful of miles outside of this
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Victor 23 airway and not have been
noticed by anyone.
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It seems to indicate that the jet indeed
took a path that was more along the
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western side, the lines it up with the
money find and all that good stuff. That
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is not at all consistent.
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with the official version of the flight
path.
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The pilot of Northwest 305 also said
that they were not looking far enough
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Well, that confirms it for me. Yeah.
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That's an area that they should have
looked, but they didn't look.
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Convinced the plane was actually eight
miles west of the original FBI search
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zone... Eric and his team head up to a
remote wilderness refuge that's never
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been searched.
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They're looking for any evidence of D
.B. Cooper, including possible remains
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his parachute.
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Hey. Hey, how's it going? It's going
well. Eric Hewless.
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Hey, Ryan.
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To maximize the time he'll have on the
ground, Eric first takes to the sky to
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see how closely his search lines up with
an area known as Tina Bar.
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In 1980, the FBI found important
evidence there.
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A child has led the FBI to the start of
a trail it hopes will help them solve
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the eight -and -a -half -year -old
mystery of skyjacker D .B. Cooper.
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The first break in the only unsolved
airplane hijacking in United States
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came on a Columbia River beach along the
Oregon -Washington border where an
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eight -year -old boy dug up the shreds
of $3 ,000 on Sunday. The money was
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about 20 miles from the FBI's original
third zone.
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Also, it was found about eight or nine
miles against the current along the
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Columbia River.
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So there was no possible way that the
money just washed ashore. The bundles of
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20s were found just below the surface of
the sand, neatly stacked upon each
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other with the original rubber band
still intact.
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So by all appearances, it looks like
somebody actually buried those three
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packets of 20s.
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Since it's impossible to know the
precise altitude at which Cooper pulled
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parachute ripcord, Eric plans to search
a wide area the FBI missed.
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The first is an island a few miles north
of Tina Bar.
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The second zone is an extended meadow
along the tree line on the west side of
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the train tracks.
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If Cooper landed there, Eric believes he
could have walked south along these
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train tracks, crossing over from the
mainland at the River Esbridge to Tina
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Eric thinks Cooper might have buried the
ransom here, temporarily, and then
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fled. The third zone.
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Private properties across from the
refuge provide access to a large
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ravine, which could have given perfect
cover for DB Cooper.
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Part of what has guided me to these
three specific search areas is that
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pristine and largely untouched in the
last 50 years.
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Eric Gillis, good to meet you.
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I'm thinking about...
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You know, the 12 years of research I
have put into this case, this is what I
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have been waiting for, the opportunity
to actually get boots on the ground and
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dig through the brush and look for those
missing parachutes, look for any sign
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of D .B. Cooper.
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Eric Ulis has investigated the D .B.
Cooper case for 12 years.
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The pilot of Northwest 305 also said
that they were not looking far enough
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Convinced the FBI misjudged the hijacked
plane's flight path,
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Erick's assembled a team to look for new
evidence.
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They hope to find something to reopen
this cold case.
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Hey. Hey, guys. How you doing? Alex Call
with Archaeological Services.
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This area was home to thousands of
Native American villages.
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So in order for the project to have
special access to the refuge, it needed
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archaeologist to join the project, and
that archaeologist is me. Given the
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terrain, it's going to require a lot of
luck.
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Accompanying Eric on his mission,
geophysicist Colin Miatka, who will help
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examine any ground disturbance or man
-made materials left behind by the
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skyjacker. With my geoscience
background, you look for man -made
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In this case, though, there's a very
small object in a very big area, so it's
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incredibly challenging.
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There's just so much ground to cover,
and the only real best way to do that is
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by physically walking over the area. Who
wouldn't want to be the person
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responsible for solving a 50 -year -old
case that the FBI gave up on,
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essentially? He's also enlisted the help
of local search and rescue volunteers
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Jason Coe and Barry Wells.
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Both have a vast knowledge of the area.
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I was here when the event happened, when
there was a lot of theories going
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around. So today, what we're going to be
doing is getting on the boats. We're
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going to be traveling along Lake River
up to the Columbia River. Then once
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on the Columbia River, we're going to go
upstream a little bit.
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This area we're talking about here was
not part of the original search area,
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obviously the fact that it's a refuge as
well and is off -limits to people
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essentially provides a real opportunity
where this stuff would have never been
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found. Ready to find D .B. Cooper?
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With restrictions in place.
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To protect local wildlife, Eric and his
team must also contact a state
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environmental expert before they can
begin their search on the island.
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Hey, Brent, how you doing?
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Good, Ernst.
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We'll work our way north, see if we can
actually get over to where you are,
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because I think the refuge is where we
want to start versus the DNR land, and
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then we'll go from there.
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Get these guys over on the shoreline
here.
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Landfall, there we go.
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Right now we're on Washington Department
of Natural Resources land, and
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basically at the tree line there is
where the wildlife refuge starts.
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They'll be limited in the tools they can
use and are forbidden to dig anything
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up or remove any evidence from the
refuge.
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Do you want to go over some of these
maps that I pulled?
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This is 1970. So this is 70.
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Compared to now, the footprint...
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It looks pretty stable. Looks pretty
consistent.
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So the only thing that might give us a
little pause is the 1996
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aerial. I know there was quite a bit of
flooding in 1996.
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So it looks like to me that this area
here is actually underwater.
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In 1996, there was actually a very big
flood in the area.
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In reality, if the parachutes were in
that area, they could have easily...
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been swept out to the Columbia River and
out to the Pacific Ocean.
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I believe that the parachutes were
placed a little bit further inland,
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wasn't affected nearly as much. So you
said the parachute was white and the
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was green?
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That's correct.
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It always helps me to know what colors.
Dark green, yeah.
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Eric's team is looking for D .B.
Cooper's missing parachutes and other
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including his attaché case, ransom
notes, or unrecovered money.
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They must notify local authorities and
the FBI immediately if they find
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anything.
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But Eric's search permit for the refuge
is limited and will expire.
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We'll just start working off in this
direction and find our way through.
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A little bit of rain.
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I think we've got to go a little further
down to the open field, basically.
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I was surprised at how he was dressed as
a businessman.
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You bring up a great point because a lot
of people said, you know, who in their
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right mind would jump into the middle of
the woods wearing loafers and a tie?
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And I've always argued nobody.
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I believe that the evidence clearly
shows that D .B. Cooper intended to jump
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initially in the outskirts of Seattle.
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After the skyjacking, flight
attendant... Tina Mucklow told
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.B. Cooper was visibly frustrated and
complained to her about how the money
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delivered. He made me feel very sure
that we had a very real
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and horrifying threat.
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When the money showed up, it was not in
a knapsack as he requested. It was
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actually just delivered in a white, open
-top canvas.
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Bank bag.
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Didn't have any zippers, didn't have any
flaps, didn't even have a handle on it.
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Cooper needed to figure out a way to
secure the top of that bank bag.
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If he didn't, the force of the free fall
would have immediately ejected all of
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the cash out of that bag.
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It was also reported by co -pilot Bill
Ratajk that Cooper had difficulties
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lowering the air stairs.
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He called us on the interphone and
requested that he was having trouble
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stairs. I can't get the stairs down.
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Eric believes these delays forced Cooper
to jump into rougher terrain than
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originally planned.
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I think that's really ground zero as far
as searching for D .B. Cooper's
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parachute if he landed in this area. And
basically we need to start right around
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here where these sticker bushes are, but
start working our way down around to
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the south. Along the edges.
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To ensure a thorough ground search, the
team walks at arm's length from each
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other, searching in a traditional grid
pattern.
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Let's move.
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That looks like an impenetrable wall
back there.
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I'm not even going to try that.
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It's pretty thick in front of us here.
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This stuff is brutal.
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Yikes.
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Yeah. That looks like a prime spot to
dump a parachute. Exactly.
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Eric believes Cooper left his parachute
behind wherever he landed.
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All the soil around here is pretty
packed clay.
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There's no way he's digging more than
whatever you can kick with his boot.
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Right. It's dark, too, right?
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Yeah. So he's not going to go too far in
there.
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No. Although the parachute may have
deteriorated, metallic and nylon
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could have survived.
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Alex found some. Let's check it out.
It's really the first sign of human
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activity I've seen in here.
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Oh, yeah.
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This could be promising.
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Searching on federally protected land on
an island along the Washington -Oregon
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border, investigator Eric Ulis and his
team make what they hope is a
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discovery.
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Alex found some. Let's check it out.
It's really the first sign of human
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activity I've seen in here.
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Oh, yeah.
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This could be promising.
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I don't know anything about parachutes
and the kinds of shroud lines they would
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use.
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The problem is the color. The shroud
lines were either white or light pink.
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And so that would not be part of D .B.
Cooper's parachute.
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This area is clear.
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After ten grueling hours, the team ends
the search for the day.
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With the restrictions that we have from
the refuge, limiting the number of
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people that we can actually search with,
and seeing how vast this area is and
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how dense the growth is that we have to
fight through, it just made me realize
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how difficult this search is actually
going to be.
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With only a few days remaining to search
what he believes is the landing area,
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Eric reviews the mystery of D .B.
Cooper.
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There are really two parts to the D .B.
Cooper mystery.
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There's the part that relates to what
actually happened.
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All these years later, they're still
looking for D .B. Cooper. Everything FBI
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Special Agent Larry Carr has on Cooper
fits in one battered box.
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Mostly what Cooper left on the plane.
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And there's this other part that relates
to who the guy actually was.
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D .B. Cooper came from someone. He came
from somewhere.
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You know, he just didn't miracle himself
here. And so someone has information.
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During the 45 years that D .B. Cooper's
skyjacking case remained open, the FBI
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investigated more than 1 ,000 possible
suspects.
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Some simply matched the crime sketch.
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Others confessed on their deathbeds.
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Hospitalized here in Florida with kidney
disease, Dwayne Webber motioned to his
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wife to come close.
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He says, I have a secret to tell you.
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I said, what?
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He says, I'm Dan Cooper.
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Even a woman was investigated, pilot
Barbara Dayton.
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Eric's determined to provide a
definitive answer about one person of
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man DNA tested in 2003 but never
publicly eliminated.
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Eric believes this man could be.
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DB Cooper.
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His name is Sheridan Peterson.
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He actually became a suspect within one
week of the skyjacking. However,
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it wasn't even until 2003 the FBI was
actually able to interview him. That FBI
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agent was a woman named Mary Jean Fryer.
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And what she told me when I first
reached out to her has completely
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trajectory.
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I'm Mary Jean Fryer. I'm a special agent
with the FBI from 1985 to 2006.
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In 2003, I received a communication from
the Seattle office to locate
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and interview Sheridan Peterson, who was
residing in Santa Rosa, and obtain a
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voluntary DNA sample.
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In late 2007, the FBI announced that
they had a partial DNA profile.
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that they got from D .B. Cooper's clip
-on tie.
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This is the tie we got the DNA from.
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This could explain why the FBI had Mary
Jean Fryer obtain a DNA sample from
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Sheridan Peterson to compare it against
the partial DNA profile.
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When I met with Sheridan Peterson in
2003, it was special because it was a
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historic case.
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During my training at the FBI Academy,
we had instructors that came in and
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talked about it.
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Sheridan's alibi since I talked to him
in 2003 was always that he was present
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Nepal for his children's birth.
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He was saying he wasn't in the country,
so he couldn't have been DB Cooper. He
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did show me his birth certificates of
his kids, but his wife could have very
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easily given birth without him there.
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Sheridan worked in the department that
literally wrote the flight manual for
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Boeing 727 jet.
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He worked as a smokejumper in Montana.
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He's an expert skydiver.
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He's a former Boeing employee.
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Then in 1966, Sheridan found himself in
Vietnam working as a refugee advisor
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until August of 1970 when he and his
wife moved to Nepal.
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There is nothing that Sheridan can point
to that proves unequivocally that he
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was in Nepal at the time that the
skyjacking took place, with the
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his second wife.
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The problem is, according to Sheridan,
his second wife died in 1977.
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Sheridan Peterson was interviewed for a
program related to D .B. Cooper, and
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there are some inconsistencies in there.
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There are things that he stated that
just don't add up.
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There are two things that I found that
could rule Sheridan out as a suspect.
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There's some discrepancy with respect to
eye color.
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Specifically, Sheridan has blue eyes,
and the FBI's very first description of
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.B. Cooper had him having brown eyes.
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However, very quickly after they put out
the initial description for D .B.
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Cooper, the FBI updated the description
and described D .B. Cooper as possibly
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having brown eyes.
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The second being we know that D .B.
Cooper definitely smoked cigarettes.
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In fact, he smoked eight cigarettes
during the skyjacking. I have never been
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able to prove that Sheridan Peterson was
ever a smoker.
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Eriks asked Mary Jean to help secure an
interview with Sheridan.
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Her goal, get him to request his DNA
test results.
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Now, we can't use DNA to prove that he
was D .B. Cooper.
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Because the profile that the FBI has is
only a partial DNA profile.
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But if we can get Sheridan Peterson to
actually request to get his DNA
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comparison results from the FBI, we may
actually be able to prove definitively
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that he wasn't D .B. Cooper.
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Back on the refuge, Eric Uless and his
team of investigators continue their
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hunt.
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Yesterday, they searched a remote
island.
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Today, they're searching an extended
meadow area.
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None of this land has been searched
before because the FBI used a different
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flight path to calculate its search area
in 1971.
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If Eric can find any evidence that B .B.
Cooper landed here, it might lead to
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finally identifying the skyjacker.
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All right, so today we're continuing the
search for the missing parachutes.
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We've got our survivalist with us as
well, Dan.
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I'm Dan Barrett. I'm a backcountry
guidance survival expert.
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I'm not an expert on D .B. Cooper
himself, but to me it seems like a
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situation. I'm looking forward to this
search. This is going to be awesome.
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There are several copycat jumps that
took place after Cooper's jump.
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Every single person who did it survived.
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Although every copycat jumper survived,
none of them got away with the crime.
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Most notable, a man named Richard Floyd
McCoy, who in 1972 remained free for two
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days before being arrested.
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It seems that the real challenge comes
once he hits the ground, how he gets out
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of the area.
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Were these tracked in place at that
time?
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Yeah, they were.
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We're on top of the BNSF railway track.
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If DB Cooper landed in this area, the
railroad tracks provide a perfect
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that he could have used to get to Tina
Bar, where the money was found.
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Do you ever think of looking into what
the train schedule was like that night?
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If he landed and started walking for 20
minutes, half hour, I'm sure a train
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would have gone by. There was a railroad
conductor who was driving down the
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tracks that night who actually did
report to the FBI.
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that there was somebody on the tracks.
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And it's important to remember that as
the conductor is bringing this to the
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attention of the FBI, the FBI actually
thinks that D .B. Cooper landed six or
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seven or eight miles east of the
railroad tracks.
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Today we're going to be doing half of
the meadow because there's just too much
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territory to cover in one day. Tomorrow
we'll deal with the other half.
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That said, the search starts right here.
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There's going to be four of us that are
going to have to work as the actual line
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searchers. These guys are going to be a
little bit more independent.
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Look along the edge here.
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That's due north.
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We need to work our way a little further
north.
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It's more of like a pinpoint, so then
it'll open up. It'll make it really
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sensitive, so you'll pick up everything.
And then you can kind of do your cross.
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And if I left it on that, it would be
like, whoo! Exactly, yeah. Okay.
429
00:30:13,810 --> 00:30:17,710
Somebody landing in some place like this
in the middle of this thicket, that'd
430
00:30:17,710 --> 00:30:20,890
be pretty brutal. I mean, I just don't
see how you land in something like this
431
00:30:20,890 --> 00:30:22,610
without getting injured.
432
00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:28,210
On the night D .B. Cooper jumped,
moderate wind gusts upwards of 11 miles
433
00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:31,170
hour were reported on the ground with
sporadic rainfall.
434
00:30:32,290 --> 00:30:36,410
When Cooper hit land, he would have
experienced ground temperatures dropping
435
00:30:36,410 --> 00:30:37,410
into the 30s.
436
00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:39,990
This is swampy right here.
437
00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:45,030
Is it dry over there, Jason?
438
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:48,330
If you come around the north side,
follow the grass.
439
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:54,350
Can I go forward and back a little bit?
440
00:30:57,310 --> 00:30:58,490
This could be promising.
441
00:30:59,230 --> 00:31:00,230
Found it.
442
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:06,690
Yeah, if you come around the north side,
follow the grass.
443
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:09,170
Eric Uless and his search team.
444
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,280
are in a protected wildlife refuge in
southwest Washington, searching for
445
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600
evidence that D .B. Cooper landed here.
446
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Halfway through searching a large meadow
area, they uncover something that could
447
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,380
be connected with this unsolved mystery.
448
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:29,300
I think I've pinpointed where it is.
Cooper's NB -6 parachute had stainless
449
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:30,300
steel parts.
450
00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:35,380
So a hit on the metal detector is
encouraging news.
451
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Yeah, let's get it.
452
00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:43,320
It's either two separate objects or one
slightly stretched out. Like the
453
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,180
backpack, I think, would be... All
right, we got something underground.
454
00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:52,020
Wow. So what does that mean as far as
the size of the piece?
455
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:58,220
With any metal detection, it's hard to
get size until you start digging it up
456
00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:02,680
because you could have something really
small that's really conductive right at
457
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,540
surface, and that's going to give you a
really solid response. But if you
458
00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:11,580
have... Something larger that's at
depth, it'll give you a smaller
459
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,440
So it's just how close the object is to
the sensor.
460
00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:20,200
Although the metal detector registered a
strong hit, the size of the object, how
461
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,580
conductive it is, and how close it is to
the surface can all influence the
462
00:32:24,580 --> 00:32:25,620
strength of the signal.
463
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,920
It seems really pinpointed at that
little soft spot right there.
464
00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:34,600
I mean, that's a robust signal. I mean,
clearly there's something down there.
465
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:41,140
Well, and maybe... Oh, there we are.
466
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,120
Oh. Wire. Wire?
467
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,560
What kind of wire, though?
468
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Parachute pull cord?
469
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,040
So the wire has to stay in the ground,
so... Let me try to see if I got cell
470
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,920
service in here and give Mark a really
quick call.
471
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,220
Mark Meltzer is an expert skydiver.
472
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
He's going to know this parachute inside
and out.
473
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,500
So he's the perfect person to reach out
to to see if he recognizes this piece of
474
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:15,040
wire and if he thinks it has anything to
do with a parachute.
475
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:21,780
Hey, Mark. Yeah, it's Eric. So we found
what appears to be like a wire buried,
476
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,500
kind of half buried in here.
477
00:33:24,110 --> 00:33:25,710
Is there any sort of wire?
478
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:30,750
It's a little heavier gauge wire.
Anything like that in the parachutes,
479
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:34,750
the reserve or the main that is
consistent with that?
480
00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:39,470
In a pilot chute, there's a spring. It's
not stranded. It's solid wire, but it's
481
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:43,930
springy. What kind of gauge are we
talking about relative to, like, the
482
00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:45,710
a hangar, for example?
483
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:47,710
About the same.
484
00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:51,910
Okay. Is it okay if we take a picture
and send the picture to you and just
485
00:33:51,910 --> 00:33:52,910
of get your impression?
486
00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:54,850
Yeah, that's fine.
487
00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:56,910
Okay. Hold on a second here, Mark.
488
00:33:57,950 --> 00:33:59,370
Is it rusted?
489
00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:04,870
I mean, it's not shiny, but it doesn't
appear to be rusted to me. But let me
490
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:09,150
send this over to you. Hopefully it lets
me send it out to you here.
491
00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:12,370
And then you can just shoot me a call
back as soon as you have a chance to
492
00:34:12,370 --> 00:34:13,370
a look at it.
493
00:34:13,409 --> 00:34:14,570
All right. Thanks, Mark.
494
00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:19,090
There's an old road in here, too, about
100 yards in.
495
00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:21,530
Got a gate on it, even.
496
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,040
Let's see what kind of metal they used
on the fencing here.
497
00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:28,980
That's what it looks like, actually,
right there. Yeah.
498
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,739
That's what it looks like.
499
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,139
Yeah, as you can see down there, that's
how they secure the posts together and
500
00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:39,620
make them stand up. Yeah, they look just
like that. They look just like that,
501
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:40,679
exactly like that.
502
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,380
At least we have an idea of what it is
now. Yeah, that appears to be the case.
503
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:48,719
I was hoping...
504
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:52,710
that we would have found something a
little bit more concrete at this point.
505
00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:56,350
We've only got one more day left to
search the refuge.
506
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:58,930
Then it's on to searching the private
property.
507
00:35:02,450 --> 00:35:08,210
While Eric and the team call it a day,
retired FBI agent Mary Jean Fryer is in
508
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:09,210
Santa Rosa.
509
00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:15,210
She's spoken with Sheridan Peterson,
Eric's key person of interest. And now
510
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:17,290
says she has even more reason to
believe.
511
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,460
He could be D .B. Cooper.
512
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:25,940
In September, I received communication
from Sheridan Peterson, which was very
513
00:35:25,940 --> 00:35:30,380
strange. I've never had another person
I've ever interviewed in my 21 .4 years
514
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:31,940
ever contact me again.
515
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:37,740
And he sent me two messages about things
that were upsetting him and signed them
516
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:39,640
both D .B.
517
00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:47,090
I think Sheridan loves the stimulation,
the engagement, the thrill of him being
518
00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:48,370
a suspect of D .B. Cooper.
519
00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:51,670
Do you think that he could be D .B.
Cooper? Yeah, I do.
520
00:35:53,310 --> 00:35:58,150
To prepare for her meeting, Mary Jean
watches an interview Sheridan did for a
521
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:59,710
2016 documentary.
522
00:36:00,870 --> 00:36:06,130
In it, Sheridan acknowledges he sky
jumped at Issaquah Skyport, the place
523
00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:08,270
supplied the parachutes D .B. Cooper
requested.
524
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:11,050
during Flight 305 skyjacking.
525
00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:16,170
Oh, I was the most obvious suspect of
anyone.
526
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:23,450
I had jumped in Issaquah, and I had got
my instructor's license there. And that
527
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:29,050
is where the guy got the parachutes. And
I had worked for
528
00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:33,010
Boeing. He's building a very good case
against himself.
529
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:35,070
She said, where were you?
530
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:38,590
And I said, I was in Nepal.
531
00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:42,810
Oh, Nepal, come on. You can think of a
better one than that.
532
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:44,350
No, I did not say that.
533
00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:48,850
Then they didn't keep track of people
going back and forth from the country.
534
00:36:48,850 --> 00:36:51,650
he was there, that's great, but that
doesn't prove that he was there.
535
00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:55,150
And I told him, I said, he had four
parachutes.
536
00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:59,970
He had one parachute with a red X across
it. That was a reserve.
537
00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:02,310
Another reserve was perfectly good.
538
00:37:03,490 --> 00:37:05,470
Which reserve did he take?
539
00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:08,700
The one that was daisy -chained. I
remember that one.
540
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:10,800
This is interesting that he's so
detailed.
541
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,000
It took more than taking the right
parachute. It also meant that the person
542
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,600
would have to know those stairs come
down on the 727.
543
00:37:18,860 --> 00:37:22,900
I wouldn't know what to do. That's what
I'm saying. So anybody saying that you
544
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,880
would have been a great D .B. Cooper,
not if you didn't know how to get off
545
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,880
airplane. Oh, yeah.
546
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,340
That made him nervous when that
conversation, didn't know about the
547
00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:33,640
he's kind of fidgeting with it.
548
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:37,340
And did you ever hear from Mary Jean
again?
549
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:44,340
She came back for some reason and told
me that there's no match.
550
00:37:44,620 --> 00:37:46,380
Well, that's very fortunate for me.
551
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:51,320
I'm about to go see Sheridan Peterson
for the first time since 2003, and I'm
552
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,360
hoping that maybe at this point he's
finally ready to accept that he's going
553
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,720
tell us that he's C .B. Cooper. Don't
take it to your death.
554
00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:03,110
Set the record straight. Put this to
rest so that everyone can appreciate
555
00:38:03,110 --> 00:38:06,550
you did and got away with and not let
anyone else take credit for it.
556
00:38:11,970 --> 00:38:16,910
With their permit expired at the refuge,
Eric and his team arrive at their final
557
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:19,770
search zone, a ravine on private
property.
558
00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:25,870
It's on Lake River, and Eric believes
Cooper could have used it for cover as
559
00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:27,070
made his way to Tina Bar.
560
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:30,150
where some ransom money was uncovered in
1980.
561
00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:34,030
How's it going, man? Good, good to see
you. Good to see you as well. Yep, yep.
562
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:35,209
How you doing?
563
00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:36,210
Good morning.
564
00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:41,590
So my name's Eric. Barry, I want to
thank you very much for getting this
565
00:38:41,590 --> 00:38:44,150
of people together. And why don't you
give me an idea of who we've got here,
566
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:47,410
because clearly we have two different
teams. We have, as you see by the
567
00:38:47,410 --> 00:38:50,430
different colors of blue and the red, so
I'm with the Southwest Washington
568
00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:54,730
Search and Rescue, and these folks here
in the red are with the Clark County
569
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:55,730
Sheriff's Office.
570
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,860
How many of you have actually heard of D
.B. Cooper or haven't heard of D .B.
571
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,440
Cooper or are familiar with the case?
572
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,500
I know you guys are.
573
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,820
I'd be more surprised if somebody hadn't
heard about it.
574
00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:11,900
I'm from the East Coast.
575
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,840
I read a little bit about it and thought
it was interesting, and being here with
576
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,640
the rest of the team, it's exciting and
it's fun.
577
00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:24,950
Hopefully we do come across something
and get to learn a little bit more about
578
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:26,390
the Pacific Northwest legend.
579
00:39:26,590 --> 00:39:32,430
There's a lot of evidence that suggests
that D .B. Cooper landed somewhere in
580
00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:33,249
this vicinity.
581
00:39:33,250 --> 00:39:36,770
We did some searching on the refuge side
of Lake River.
582
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:41,470
Now it's time to focus on this side of
Lake River. My thought is that Cooper,
583
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:45,310
you know, if he landed in this area
here, would have...
584
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:50,400
You know, walked his way down to the
ravine looking for a path out of the
585
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,600
a path toward the railroad tracks.
586
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:58,640
Today's search will cover over 12 acres,
so they've doubled their search team.
587
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,920
Each member is outfitted with a GPS
tracker and monitored from a mobile
588
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,500
center. All right, folks, we ready?
589
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,760
If evidence of D .B. Cooper is here,
Eric's confident his team can find it.
590
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:19,060
Right side good?
591
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:20,820
Right good. Left side?
592
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,999
Left side good.
593
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Okay, moving.
594
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:24,080
All right, slow methodical.
595
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680
Just follow this ravine straight down.
596
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,720
Low and slow, folks. Low and slow.
597
00:40:29,940 --> 00:40:32,600
Make sure you're clear under trees and
things like that.
598
00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:35,960
Look up every once in a while.
599
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,060
Yeah, look behind you, too.
600
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,600
You can break as much as you need to.
601
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:42,420
We got permission.
602
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.
603
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:48,030
Think, where would I hide a parachute?
604
00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:54,490
One other thing to consider as I look at
these trees up here, one of the premier
605
00:40:54,490 --> 00:41:00,250
suspects in this case was actually a
smokejumper. If he happened to land in
606
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:03,290
type of environment, he would have known
exactly what to do and how to handle
607
00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:04,069
the situation.
608
00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:08,170
If he had caught up in these trees, you
know, 60, 70 feet up, we know that he
609
00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:11,170
had a pocket knife on him. He actually
used that to cut some of the shroud
610
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:14,550
lines, so he would have figured out a
way to get down. It wouldn't have been
611
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:15,550
issue for him.
612
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,820
They got stuff.
613
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:22,280
They're digging in stuff over there,
Eric. I'm not sure.
614
00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:23,800
Eric, do you want to come over here?
615
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:25,140
Yeah. Hold on.
616
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Right holding.
617
00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:29,420
Yeah, just the same area.
618
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:32,300
What is this?
619
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:34,880
It's a wine bottle.
620
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:36,600
Might be a piece of aluminum.
621
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:39,100
Yeah, I think that's all it is.
622
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:44,120
Yeah, some cork on it. Yeah, it's
definitely like a top of a wine cork. I
623
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,120
the guy was drinking.
624
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,300
had a bourbon on the flight you know
this is one of those things i'm just
625
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:53,440
curious to be took a couple you know
yeah i mean he's got many bottles with
626
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:00,340
you don't know so be the kind of items
to save uh for the heck of it but seems
627
00:42:00,340 --> 00:42:06,800
unlikely that there's any significance
but uh gives you an idea of how how
628
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,340
sensitive this instrument is yeah all
right continue pocket that and we'll
629
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:13,540
continue yeah that looks like something
from a plane
630
00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:21,210
cabinet or something.
631
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:23,710
Hey, Eric.
632
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:26,770
Yeah. Do you want to come here for a
second?
633
00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:32,910
Yeah. Large metal box that I assume
somebody filled it with rocks, but I
634
00:42:32,910 --> 00:42:36,450
want to make sure that you don't have
any... You see it anywhere?
635
00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:37,669
This right here.
636
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:38,408
Oh, yeah.
637
00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:42,590
Yeah, that's the kind of thing that... I
don't know how it ended up here, but
638
00:42:42,590 --> 00:42:45,270
it's certainly not associated with the
parachute or anything like that.
639
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:47,670
Yeah, it's not associated with anything
that... Nothing that I'm aware of, yeah.
640
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,880
Certainly much bigger than the attache
case would have been. It looks just up
641
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,280
here. It looks to me just like a, you
know, large metal box.
642
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:59,220
Just an old metal box, yeah. Yeah, okay.
643
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:02,220
Good to check out, though.
644
00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:10,420
Although they've yet to find definitive
evidence, the search team has recovered
645
00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:14,880
a few items of interest, including this
small gauge wire, which could have been
646
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,800
part of the NB -6 parachute.
647
00:43:17,530 --> 00:43:23,470
They also found nylon rope hanging from
a tree and aluminum that could be from
648
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:25,630
beverages served on Flight 305.
649
00:43:28,290 --> 00:43:33,070
A few, you know, false positives, so to
speak. It helps keep a little fresh in
650
00:43:33,070 --> 00:43:35,550
your mind that this is a very real case.
651
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:39,930
This guy really did exist. He really did
jump somewhere in this area.
652
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:42,410
Those parachutes are somewhere in this
vicinity.
653
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:44,450
It's just a matter of finding them.
654
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:55,840
Investigator Eric Ulis is on the last
day of his search for evidence that
655
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,160
solve the mystery of D .B. Cooper.
656
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:05,180
Eric believes the FBI got it wrong, and
Cooper actually landed eight miles west
657
00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:07,380
of law enforcement's original search
zone.
658
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:13,780
If he can find any sign of Cooper, it
would prove he survived the jump and may
659
00:44:13,780 --> 00:44:14,780
be alive today.
660
00:44:18,570 --> 00:44:22,430
I wonder what this area looked like 48
years ago.
661
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:23,930
I think it looked just like this.
662
00:44:24,750 --> 00:44:29,750
The ravine the team's searching has
remained untouched by loggers for 50
663
00:44:30,770 --> 00:44:34,030
Eric believes decades of overgrowth
could have helped preserve evidence.
664
00:44:35,570 --> 00:44:40,010
An awful lot of vegetation, and this is
exactly the kind of area that we would
665
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:43,510
expect to find something if he was in
this area and happened to stash it.
666
00:44:43,850 --> 00:44:46,970
It wouldn't be fun to land a parachute
in and get caught up.
667
00:44:47,870 --> 00:44:51,970
This is actually a pretty long property.
Is it a long line? Yeah, we're about a
668
00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:53,250
fifth of the way right now. Oh, wow.
669
00:44:56,370 --> 00:44:59,090
Watch to your right, folks. Don't
outwalk your flanks.
670
00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:03,710
Hey, Joe. Yeah. See that big tree on the
other side of that ravine right there?
671
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:07,030
That one right there? Yeah. So once we
get to that, we want to spread out to
672
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:08,030
right. Okay.
673
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:09,229
There we go.
674
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:10,230
All right.
675
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:13,670
All right. There you go. There you go.
Yeah, and then catch it if you fall.
676
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:14,710
Yeah.
677
00:45:14,770 --> 00:45:16,130
There you go. All right.
678
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:19,460
Well,
679
00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:27,000
$200 ,000 in 1971, what would be the
value of that today?
680
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:29,260
It would be $1 .2 million today.
681
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:32,920
So it would be a millionaire in today's
dollars.
682
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:34,180
All of that for $1 million.
683
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,740
The FBI has never been able to prove one
way or the other whether any of the
684
00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:43,340
ransom was spent. If D .B. Cooper did
actually spend this money...
685
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:47,530
My research indicates that there would
be approximately 50 of those bills still
686
00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:50,210
out there in circulation today.
687
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:56,930
There is a very strong chance that
someone out there right now has
688
00:45:56,930 --> 00:46:02,390
one of those bills, but they just don't
know it. As you can see here, this is
689
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:04,850
not a complete $20 bill.
690
00:46:05,110 --> 00:46:11,070
In fact, I estimate that what we're
looking at is only about 25 % of the
691
00:46:11,070 --> 00:46:12,070
original bill.
692
00:46:13,580 --> 00:46:17,780
After a difficult grid search, the team
finally reaches the ravine.
693
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,600
Okay, guys, you're going to have to be a
little slower, a little bit more
694
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,140
brushier here for both sides.
695
00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:30,080
From here, Eric believes Cooper could
hear trains running on the BNSF railway
696
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,340
tracks, tracks leading to Tina Bar.
697
00:46:33,780 --> 00:46:36,220
Oh, look at it right here, right in
front of you.
698
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:39,500
There's some white something here.
699
00:46:40,740 --> 00:46:41,740
I don't know.
700
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:49,340
The material is interesting.
701
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:55,620
We have a parachute expert, and I'm
going to ask him about it. Where'd you
702
00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:57,900
it? Just right under the log here.
703
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:08,680
It looks like a mix of materials, some
of which could be on the parachutes.
704
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,580
ask the expert, and he'll be able to
tell us definitively. Something with
705
00:47:12,580 --> 00:47:15,020
tension. This had to be on something
with some serious tension.
706
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:19,760
The team sets up a GPS locator on the
spot where the cloth fragment was found.
707
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,260
To provide coordinates, they can plot on
a map.
708
00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:29,500
The situation we find ourselves in right
now is rare, unique, and a very limited
709
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:33,600
time. So we just cannot afford to pass
up on situations like this. We have to
710
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,360
thoroughly vet this. We have to figure
out what we're working with here because
711
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,720
this may be it. This may be the one
final golden opportunity to figure out
712
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,640
and for all what happened to D .B.
Cooper.
713
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,340
We'll get it checked out. We'll see what
the expert says.
714
00:47:49,340 --> 00:47:50,340
So we'll see.
715
00:47:51,340 --> 00:47:55,000
Could this fabric be part of D .B.
Cooper's missing parachutes?
716
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,740
It appears to be nylon and canvas, which
looked very durable. It resembled a
717
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:07,440
piece of a parachute. It certainly
looked like it could be, but I'm not
718
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,400
now that we've got the piece in hand,
we've marked where we found it, we'll
719
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,260
present it to our parachute expert, Mark
Meltzer, and he'll be able to tell us
720
00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:17,220
definitively whether or not this is a
piece of a parachute or not.
721
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:24,900
To learn more about the fabric he found,
Eric heads to L .A. to meet with Mark
722
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:29,440
Meltzer. Not only is he very
knowledgeable about the Cooper case,
723
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,100
something like 1 ,500, 2 ,000 parachute
jumps. It gives us the opportunity to
724
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:38,620
give him that piece of evidence that we
found during the search, see if he
725
00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:42,480
thinks it could possibly come from a
parachute, either the main parachute or
726
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:48,000
reserve parachute or something else. And
he actually personally knows Sheridan
727
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Peterson.
728
00:48:49,390 --> 00:48:54,210
I wanted to start out talking to you a
little bit about D .B. Cooper's skill
729
00:48:54,210 --> 00:48:58,070
level with respect to parachutes, given
everything you know about this case
730
00:48:58,070 --> 00:48:59,770
specifically and skydiving in
particular.
731
00:49:00,110 --> 00:49:03,990
What indicates to me that he probably
had some experience with military
732
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:09,330
parachute gear is the type of main
parachute rigs that were brought to him
733
00:49:09,330 --> 00:49:12,130
either Navy NB -6 or NB -8.
734
00:49:12,830 --> 00:49:16,890
containers and harnesses. And parachute
instructions were brought to the plane,
735
00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:20,070
printed instructions on how to use the
gear. He didn't need them. And Tina
736
00:49:20,070 --> 00:49:24,610
Mucklow, the stewardess that spent the
most time with Cooper, noted Cooper
737
00:49:24,610 --> 00:49:28,970
taking out a packing cart out of one of
the parachute rigs. And to me, that's a
738
00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:32,670
huge clue that Cooper was most likely a
skydiver.
739
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:36,910
Skydivers know what a packing cart is.
Nobody else does. It's very well
740
00:49:36,910 --> 00:49:39,210
concealed. So if Cooper actually
741
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:43,650
found a packing cart, and knew how to
put on an NB -8 or NB -6.
742
00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:50,270
That's very telling. We did find
something that may or may not be related
743
00:49:50,270 --> 00:49:52,450
parachute. I'd like to see it. I'll take
it out.
744
00:49:53,170 --> 00:49:54,570
Get this open here.
745
00:50:05,950 --> 00:50:08,890
Well, it's interesting in that it has
sort of a grip stop.
746
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,880
in the fabric material here, the porous
fabric material.
747
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,880
It has nylon webbing.
748
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:20,100
And I see nothing in the materials
that's inconsistent with the late 60s,
749
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:21,100
70s.
750
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,260
Investigator Eric Uless is in Los
Angeles, meeting with parachute expert
751
00:50:32,260 --> 00:50:36,820
Meltzer. He hopes Mark can shed light on
a piece of possible evidence.
752
00:50:37,930 --> 00:50:44,210
looking for the missing parachute, we
did find something that may or may not
753
00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:45,470
related to a parachute.
754
00:50:56,670 --> 00:51:02,090
Well, it's interesting in that it has
sort of a ripstop weave in the fabric
755
00:51:02,090 --> 00:51:03,810
material here, the porous fabric
material.
756
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:05,730
It has nylon webbing.
757
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,440
A ripstop weave is commonly found in
fabrics made to resist tearing.
758
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:15,680
Yarns are interwoven at regular
intervals in a crosshatch pattern.
759
00:51:16,580 --> 00:51:21,840
I see nothing in the materials that's
inconsistent with the late 60s, early
760
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,740
but it's not the right color for
military parachute gear. This is a
761
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:31,420
blue, and it apparently has leather over
sewn on the perimeter of the thing, and
762
00:51:31,420 --> 00:51:35,860
there is no leather on the type of gear
that... cooper jump but it does have
763
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:39,520
components in common with parachute gear
it has an nylon webbing it has some
764
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,860
sort of ripped stops weave fabric but i
can say with 100 certainty that this was
765
00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:47,920
not from db cooper's parachute gear so
you've pretty much established that it's
766
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,840
absolutely not related to the the
parachute that he jumped with What's the
767
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,920
possibility that there's some sort of
relation to the dummy reserve parachute?
768
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,200
That's an interesting question, Eric.
I've seen some crude things done to
769
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,960
training reserves. The only thing you
want to do is have it be able to be
770
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,740
deployed and packed up really quickly.
So they cut panels out. They sometimes
771
00:52:08,740 --> 00:52:12,260
cut some of the suspension lines off. It
doesn't have to be done to FAA specs.
772
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,240
And so I can't definitively say this
wasn't part of a training reserve. I
773
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,420
it's unlikely, but I certainly can't
rule it out.
774
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,240
This is very exciting for me because
there's a possibility that this piece
775
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:30,000
be part of the modification that was
made to the dummy reserve parachute.
776
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:35,360
You personally know Sheridan Peterson.
What are your overall impressions of
777
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:42,360
Peterson as they pertain to the
possibility of this guy being the real
778
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,360
D .B. Cooper?
779
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:48,100
Sheridan Peterson is absolutely a
qualified candidate.
780
00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:52,540
There is no aspect of that jump that he
wasn't a master of. He knew how to jump
781
00:52:52,540 --> 00:52:54,200
into wilderness and egress.
782
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:56,240
Do I think he's D .B. Cooper?
783
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,500
I just don't know.
784
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:08,380
To further his investigation, Eric Uless
next visits Claire Peterson, Sheridan
785
00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:09,600
Peterson's first wife.
786
00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:14,070
He hopes she may have some insight into
whether Sheridan could have pulled off
787
00:53:14,070 --> 00:53:19,170
the skyjacking. She also has details
about Sheridan's second wife, the key
788
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:21,030
person who could corroborate his alibi.
789
00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:25,830
Sheridan has three children, all grown
with Claire.
790
00:53:26,050 --> 00:53:32,490
They were married in the 50s and
divorced in 1962, which is right before
791
00:53:32,490 --> 00:53:37,570
Sheridan moved up to Seattle and got the
job at Boeing. Actually, Sheridan
792
00:53:37,570 --> 00:53:39,110
started working at Boeing.
793
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:41,160
in May of 1962.
794
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,780
So they went their separate ways right
before that.
795
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:49,620
So this is going to be fascinating to
speak with Claire about her time with
796
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:55,460
Sheridan. Claire Peterson was
interviewed by the FBI in 1974
797
00:53:55,460 --> 00:54:00,600
about Sheridan and about this case. And
at that time...
798
00:54:00,830 --> 00:54:07,210
Sheridan was living in Asia, so she knew
as of 1974 that Sheridan was a suspect
799
00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:09,450
in the DB Cooper skyjacking.
800
00:54:10,210 --> 00:54:15,530
Sheridan was 45 at the time of the
skyjacking, and Eric believes his
801
00:54:15,530 --> 00:54:18,150
is similar to the original sketch of DB
Cooper.
802
00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:23,310
Sheridan lived in Seattle prior to the
skyjacking and was photographed in a
803
00:54:23,310 --> 00:54:26,110
and tie while posing as a skydiver.
804
00:54:26,590 --> 00:54:31,250
As a Boeing employee, It's also likely
that Sheridan knew the inner workings of
805
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:32,350
the Boeing 727.
806
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:37,670
And finally, Eric does not believe that
Sheridan's alibi can be corroborated for
807
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:38,910
the time of the skyjacking.
808
00:54:54,190 --> 00:54:54,928
Hi, Claire.
809
00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:58,550
Hi. Hi, Eric Hewlett. You can see Eric.
I am Eric. How are you?
810
00:54:58,950 --> 00:55:00,330
Fine, thank you. Good to meet you.
811
00:55:02,050 --> 00:55:06,270
Claire agreed to help Eric obtain a DNA
profile from one of their children.
812
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:12,010
It will be compared to the DNA from D
.B. Cooper's tie left aboard Flight 305.
813
00:55:12,550 --> 00:55:17,010
If it's a match, Eric could finally have
the answer to the mystery of D .B.
814
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:18,030
Cooper's identity.
815
00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:20,690
First of all, Claire...
816
00:55:20,970 --> 00:55:26,170
Thank you very much for taking the time
to sit down with me and talk a little
817
00:55:26,170 --> 00:55:28,770
bit about your life and your life with
Sheridan.
818
00:55:29,110 --> 00:55:34,970
Can you describe just the nature of your
relationship during that seven years
819
00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:35,970
with Sheridan?
820
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:40,190
Well, the relationship was bumpy.
821
00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:43,230
He did have tirades of anger.
822
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:45,530
I don't think he could control it.
823
00:55:45,870 --> 00:55:49,350
So I knew there was a time when I was
going to have to say goodbye to him.
824
00:55:51,460 --> 00:55:56,260
And that's the way it went. Something
had to be done because I didn't want to
825
00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:57,198
get hurt.
826
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:04,040
In terms of being clever and deceptive,
when there's something that he wanted or
827
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,520
what have you, did you detect any of
that in him, the ability to be
828
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,420
think he was deceptive, yes, in a way
that would work for him.
829
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,840
As Eric speaks with Claire Peterson.
830
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,080
Former FBI agent Mary Jean Fryer is en
route to visit Sheridan Peterson.
831
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:29,480
In 2003, she interviewed him as a person
of interest and collected a DNA sample.
832
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,320
This is the first time they've met since
then.
833
00:56:37,660 --> 00:56:44,100
I was glad you reached out to me on
Twitter when you sent me the message
834
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:46,200
you wish I was still in the FBI because
you had things.
835
00:56:46,990 --> 00:56:48,730
that were happening to your computer.
836
00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:51,890
Yeah. Do you remember that in September?
837
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:54,490
With your book. Oh, yeah.
838
00:56:54,830 --> 00:56:56,790
Yeah. You signed it, DB.
839
00:56:59,030 --> 00:57:01,250
Because I thought I'd amuse you.
840
00:57:01,530 --> 00:57:04,790
Yeah, you did amuse me. Twice you signed
DB.
841
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:11,270
Yeah, I was so surprised to find you.
842
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:15,710
It's been a long time since we've seen
each other. Yes, it has.
843
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,100
That was 20 years ago, huh? A long time
ago.
844
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:22,020
Heisting of aircraft.
845
00:57:22,980 --> 00:57:24,760
And that wasn't me.
846
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:29,660
There are easier ways to get $200 ,000,
I would think.
847
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,460
I'm surprised that you guys are still
interested.
848
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,160
They never caught the guy.
849
00:57:34,460 --> 00:57:38,120
The FBI gave up on it and closed it. Oh,
did they?
850
00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:41,160
The fact that people think that you
could be D .B. Cooper makes sense.
851
00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:43,540
D .B. Cooper was a...
852
00:57:43,930 --> 00:57:46,030
was a gangster. He was a thief.
853
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:48,750
He stole $200 ,000.
854
00:57:49,210 --> 00:57:54,750
And also, he wanted to blow up a plane.
He would have killed a lot of people.
855
00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:56,390
Do you think the bombs were real?
856
00:57:56,810 --> 00:57:58,230
Oh, they weren't real, no.
857
00:57:59,770 --> 00:58:00,830
How do you know that?
858
00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:08,710
Retired FBI investigator Mary Jean Fryer
is meeting with Sheridan Peterson, a
859
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:10,110
man she interviewed in 2003.
860
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,260
as a person of interest in the D .B.
Cooper case.
861
00:58:13,540 --> 00:58:14,540
Do you think the bombs were real?
862
00:58:14,980 --> 00:58:16,440
Oh, they weren't real, no.
863
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,280
The FBI found and proved that the bombs
weren't real.
864
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,780
They did? I didn't hear that.
865
00:58:25,220 --> 00:58:26,220
Oh, yeah.
866
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,020
Once he had jumped there, he left the
stuff behind.
867
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,960
He only left the tie behind.
868
00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:39,660
The only items recovered from the
hijacked plane were a long, skinny black
869
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:40,660
-on tie.
870
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,620
a gold tie clip, and eight cigarette
butts.
871
00:58:43,940 --> 00:58:48,620
It's believed Cooper jumped with
everything else, including the
872
00:58:48,620 --> 00:58:51,720
notes exchanged between he and the
flight attendants.
873
00:58:51,980 --> 00:58:53,220
Why would he do that?
874
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:59,980
I feel that my personal opinion that he
ended up in the Columbia River.
875
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,940
That money all rotted and everything was
in the sand along the bank north of the
876
00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:07,940
Dahl.
877
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,440
Actually, I think the money was buried,
not lost.
878
00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:12,180
Buried?
879
00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:18,240
Because it was like in a stack in the
sand, not like just drifted there.
880
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:25,300
If he jumped in a tire that he was
wearing, he was crazy.
881
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:27,280
And I'm not crazy.
882
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,580
That took a lot of guts to do what he
did.
883
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,800
Oh, yeah, I think so.
884
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,480
You know, your life story is
fascinating. Can we start after your
885
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,560
Claire?
886
00:59:41,980 --> 00:59:47,820
Yes. Right after my first wife, I took a
sabbatical in the Philippines.
887
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,440
I was just an English teacher.
888
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:54,780
And I met Vinnie. She lived in a very
poor area.
889
00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:00,100
She wasn't well -educated.
890
01:00:00,380 --> 01:00:05,400
But I married Vinnie. We had two
children. And then I went to Vietnam.
891
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:10,700
with the express purpose of writing a
documentary on the Vietnam War.
892
01:00:11,060 --> 01:00:12,880
You know, I needed a passport.
893
01:00:13,420 --> 01:00:15,260
Oh, I have those passports.
894
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,040
Can we see them?
895
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,360
Yeah.
896
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,360
This is all your travel everywhere?
897
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,520
Well, I'm not sure it's all of them. You
keep everything. I love that.
898
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,720
So here's Kathmandu in August of 71.
899
01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:35,880
Now, after August of 71, then where did
you go?
900
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,860
Oh, I went back to Vietnam.
901
01:00:40,180 --> 01:00:46,700
Yeah, I remember that. I went back and I
left the family in
902
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:49,300
Malaysia, in Penang.
903
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,020
Your wife died in 1977?
904
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,720
Well, yeah.
905
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,440
I don't want them to know where I am.
906
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,400
I don't want them to know anything.
907
01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:08,530
Back in Idaho, Eric Uless continues his
meetings with Sheridan's first wife,
908
01:01:08,690 --> 01:01:14,790
Claire. He was not money crazy, but he
did not want to work, but, you know, he
909
01:01:14,790 --> 01:01:20,530
wanted to have a living. And I knew he
wanted to go to Asia, and it looked like
910
01:01:20,530 --> 01:01:22,530
he was doing what he wanted to do.
911
01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:27,830
So you were made aware at some point
that he, like, headed to Asia.
912
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:31,170
I did know that he left and he went
overseas.
913
01:01:31,870 --> 01:01:35,290
And was there any contact with him while
he was over there?
914
01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:39,010
Probably a couple of letters.
915
01:01:39,490 --> 01:01:42,330
And then, but for years and years, no
contact.
916
01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:49,710
One thing that was intriguing that we
talked about related to his second
917
01:01:49,710 --> 01:01:55,450
wife. And you're talking about a wife
that he led me to believe was alive.
918
01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:58,550
What did he say to you in 2007?
919
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,340
Made you think she was still alive.
920
01:02:01,620 --> 01:02:07,600
I met his daughter, their daughter, and
she wanted to see her mother, and she
921
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,560
wanted to see that her mother got over
here to the United States from the
922
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,900
Philippines. What year was this? Well,
this was 2007.
923
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,200
So you had a conversation with Sheridan
about this right here at your house,
924
01:02:19,220 --> 01:02:21,700
where we are right now. I did, yes. What
did Sheridan say about that? Well, I
925
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:24,940
asked Sheridan, why don't you send for
her? Why don't you see that she can get
926
01:02:24,940 --> 01:02:25,940
here?
927
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,880
And he laughed. And what he said was,
oh, she wants to bring her entire family
928
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,960
over with her.
929
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:35,820
Clearly, you're under the distinct
impression that his second wife, at
930
01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:39,680
of 2007, is alive and well and is living
in the Philippines. Is that correct?
931
01:02:39,940 --> 01:02:46,300
According to Sheridan, his second wife
had passed away in 1977.
932
01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:50,560
Well, he's lying about something.
933
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:54,880
If he is possibly Dan Cooper.
934
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,140
she would know.
935
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:04,240
Well, that's when I started to really
think perhaps it was he who
936
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,480
did it.
937
01:03:06,940 --> 01:03:13,720
He had the knowledge and probably, he
probably had the courage to do something
938
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:14,720
like that.
939
01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:22,800
Look, I read Eric's work, and I have to
ask you, I want to know how you knew.
940
01:03:23,260 --> 01:03:26,560
The reserve parachute was daisy
-chained. I daisy -chained it.
941
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:32,140
You daisy -chained it? Yeah, I daisy
-chained it. We used it there at
942
01:03:32,140 --> 01:03:33,140
for years.
943
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:40,740
Sheridan Peterson worked at the Issaquah
Skydive Center in the early 1960s, the
944
01:03:40,740 --> 01:03:44,360
same place that would later provide
parachutes used by Cooper in his escape.
945
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:52,200
I daily change it so they throw it down
and out, see? The reserve, I put the
946
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,740
red X on it.
947
01:03:54,020 --> 01:03:57,920
You hadn't been to Issaquah in five
years. How did you know that that's the
948
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:58,899
reserve you made?
949
01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:00,240
Well, I was sure it was.
950
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,000
Why would they change it?
951
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,860
Who gave it to him?
952
01:04:04,580 --> 01:04:05,580
Lynn Emmerich.
953
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,520
Yeah, that's why Lynn Emmerich figured
it was me.
954
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,840
Lynn Emmerich worked at Issaquah Skyport
at the same time of the hijacking.
955
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:22,040
But the others no longer think that I'm
an EV2 friend.
956
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,500
And they still have DNA out there.
957
01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:27,040
Yeah, you still have my DNA.
958
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,740
It's still there, yeah. I've never heard
that it was cleared.
959
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,600
But I thought you said... No, because I
never found out.
960
01:04:34,820 --> 01:04:37,100
But you can find out yourself.
961
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,380
I can send you the form. You just make
the request and they'll tell you.
962
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:46,250
There was a little part of me that was
hoping you were going to confess to
963
01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:47,250
D .B. Cooper today.
964
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:49,310
A little part of you? Yeah.
965
01:04:49,530 --> 01:04:52,630
Oh, she really is this FBI.
966
01:04:53,790 --> 01:05:00,770
Yeah. I just hope that whoever it is
takes some credit for it before they
967
01:05:00,770 --> 01:05:05,860
die, if they're still alive, because
it's quite... the accomplishment.
968
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,900
And so many people have claimed it or
tried to steal it from this person
969
01:05:11,060 --> 01:05:15,220
oh, I was DB Cooper or on their deathbed
or family members will come out. But it
970
01:05:15,220 --> 01:05:19,260
would be nice if the person doesn't let
it go unsolved.
971
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,500
All right, listen, I have to say
goodbye.
972
01:05:25,799 --> 01:05:26,960
Yeah. Hey. Yeah.
973
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,820
All right. You take care of yourself.
974
01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:31,920
Yeah. We'll send you that form.
975
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,178
All right.
976
01:05:33,180 --> 01:05:33,919
All right?
977
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,200
Then we can put this to rest.
978
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,160
I'll go back. Unless you want to confess
to me. Huh? Unless you want to confess
979
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,280
to me. Oh, I've got to get on my knees.
Yeah.
980
01:05:41,380 --> 01:05:43,780
You take care of yourself.
981
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:45,920
I'll remember this forever.
982
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,280
Oh, well, good. I will, too.
983
01:05:55,020 --> 01:05:59,880
Twelve years after he began his
obsessive search into D .B. Cooper, Eric
984
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:04,360
is in Arizona, meeting with one of the
only researchers ever to be given access
985
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,520
to Cooper evidence by the FBI.
986
01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:12,360
Eric hopes that he will finally learn if
the man he believes could be D .B.
987
01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:14,100
Cooper really is.
988
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,260
Tom Kay is a rock star in the D .B.
Cooper world, and the reason the guy's a
989
01:06:20,260 --> 01:06:22,660
rock star is because he actually...
990
01:06:23,310 --> 01:06:27,790
got special access to the evidence in
2008 as well as 2011.
991
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:35,150
Knowing this, it only makes sense to see
if Tom K happened to extract some of D
992
01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:37,570
.B. Cooper's DNA while testing the tie.
993
01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:46,290
Eric, glad you made it. How you doing,
man? Good to see you. Good to see you.
994
01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:51,230
Come on in. Back in 2008, I was
approached by a Cooper group that was
995
01:06:51,230 --> 01:06:55,170
for somebody to analyze the money that
was found on Tina Barr and had been
996
01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:56,330
buried there for a long time.
997
01:06:57,030 --> 01:07:01,690
Then we went back to the FBI in 2011,
and by that time we were working with
998
01:07:01,690 --> 01:07:05,810
Special Agent Curtis Eng, and he allowed
us then to have access to the tie
999
01:07:05,810 --> 01:07:10,810
specifically so we could do a series of
tests, and we also vacuumed the tie for
1000
01:07:10,810 --> 01:07:15,120
particles. What we found that was really
amazing is we found metallic titanium
1001
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,560
on the tie.
1002
01:07:17,180 --> 01:07:22,060
Titanium is used to manufacture aircraft
and is found at plane manufacturing
1003
01:07:22,060 --> 01:07:28,280
plants, like the Boeing facility where
Sheridan worked from 1962 to 1964.
1004
01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:31,980
There were very few applications for
commercially...
1005
01:07:32,380 --> 01:07:34,320
pure titanium back in 1971.
1006
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,840
And I know that some of my research has
actually shown that indeed the 727
1007
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,540
itself, specifically the engine, has
commercially pure titanium.
1008
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,120
At that time, titanium wasn't very
common. It was used primarily in
1009
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:52,100
and also in the chemical industry. So it
goes a long way towards narrowing down
1010
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:53,760
criteria for DB Cooper.
1011
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Now we knew how vitally important the
particles were on the tie, and we knew
1012
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,300
what we were looking for. So we hooked
up a vacuum.
1013
01:08:01,260 --> 01:08:05,320
to a filter like this. This is a sterile
filter inside of a sterile jar.
1014
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:10,360
We had a small nozzle coming out the end
here, and then we hooked a vacuum to
1015
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:15,040
the back end of this, and we vacuumed
the tie, including the knot of the tie.
1016
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,740
The tie knot seems like the most logical
place to look, the place that would
1017
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:21,700
have been touched the most by DB Cooper.
1018
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:27,040
This filter that remains unopened to
this day has particles from DB Cooper's
1019
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:32,229
in it, but most importantly... It also
has Cooper's DNA in it. The thing is,
1020
01:08:32,270 --> 01:08:35,910
there's only one shot with the DNA here.
I will never see that again. It is
1021
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:39,710
destroyed in the process of getting the
DNA. I think that the lab that's been
1022
01:08:39,710 --> 01:08:42,930
appropriated for this job is a good one,
and it'll do a good job.
1023
01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:47,649
The extent of the job that they can do,
nobody knows yet, not even the lab.
1024
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:54,050
Tom, I want to thank you for entrusting
us with this very valuable D .B. Cooper
1025
01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:55,050
evidence.
1026
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,720
We're going to take it, send it right
off to the lab, see what they can find
1027
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,479
out, and I'll get back to you with the
results as soon as I have something.
1028
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:03,640
All right, Tom. Let's go get them. All
right.
1029
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:10,580
While Eric waits to send the MVAC tie
sample to a Florida lab specializing in
1030
01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:15,359
older forensics cases, former FBI agent
Mary Jean Pryor receives an unexpected
1031
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,319
call from Sheridan.
1032
01:09:18,690 --> 01:09:22,910
When I met with Sheridan Peterson, I
thought it was intriguing and kind of
1033
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:26,810
confusing. They evidently found the guy
that made the heist.
1034
01:09:27,130 --> 01:09:28,370
No, they never caught the guy.
1035
01:09:29,170 --> 01:09:31,609
They didn't? The FBI gave up on it and
closed it.
1036
01:09:31,810 --> 01:09:32,608
Oh, did they?
1037
01:09:32,609 --> 01:09:34,630
During the interview, I thought it
wasn't him.
1038
01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:40,090
And then when he pulled out the
passports, I said, oh, I think it might
1039
01:09:40,510 --> 01:09:43,050
So here's Kathmandu in August of 71.
1040
01:09:44,370 --> 01:09:46,950
Now, you didn't have these when I
interviewed you way back when.
1041
01:09:47,950 --> 01:09:52,990
There were two faded stamps for Nepal,
for Kathmandu. One ended late in 1971,
1042
01:09:53,330 --> 01:09:58,490
before the hijacking, and then the other
one started in April of 1972.
1043
01:09:58,950 --> 01:10:03,330
By the time the interview was over, I
walked out thinking, I don't know
1044
01:10:04,050 --> 01:10:05,270
I'm totally confused.
1045
01:10:06,370 --> 01:10:10,850
Probably about a month after I was up in
Santa Rosa, I called Sheridan and I
1046
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:13,850
asked him, I thought you were going to
do the paperwork and follow through with
1047
01:10:13,850 --> 01:10:14,850
the DNA filing.
1048
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:21,840
And he said, oh, you told me that I
wasn't D .B. Cooper, and I don't think
1049
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,840
going to do it.
1050
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,060
And then that was it. The conversation
ended.
1051
01:10:26,380 --> 01:10:31,660
And I hung up thinking, oh, my God, now
that makes me really suspicious.
1052
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,180
He just wants to keep it until he dies,
which is probably how it's going to play
1053
01:10:37,180 --> 01:10:38,180
out.
1054
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,620
Five weeks later, Eric arrives back in
California.
1055
01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:48,970
He set up a video conference meeting
with a senior analyst at the lab
1056
01:10:48,970 --> 01:10:52,090
DB Cooper's DNA to one of Sheridan's
daughters.
1057
01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:58,210
If his theory's right, he may finally
learn the true identity of DB Cooper.
1058
01:10:58,570 --> 01:11:04,470
When I first embarked upon this
investigation, I had no idea where it
1059
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:10,110
to take me. I had no idea who I was
going to encounter, let alone that I'd
1060
01:11:10,110 --> 01:11:11,110
a suspect.
1061
01:11:11,230 --> 01:11:13,630
who couldn't be ruled out by the known
facts.
1062
01:11:13,850 --> 01:11:19,690
According to Sheridan, his second wife
had passed away in 1977.
1063
01:11:21,870 --> 01:11:23,750
Well, he's lying about something.
1064
01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:31,630
I've often said that I believe with 98 %
certainty that Sheridan
1065
01:11:31,630 --> 01:11:33,530
Peterson could be D .B. Cooper.
1066
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:39,670
But there's always been that missing 2%,
because truthfully, I've never been
1067
01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:40,810
able to find a smoking gun.
1068
01:11:41,230 --> 01:11:45,010
There's an awful lot riding on what the
lab comes back with.
1069
01:11:46,770 --> 01:11:51,390
Eric Uless readies himself for DNA
results that could break the case wide
1070
01:11:52,170 --> 01:11:56,970
He'll be speaking to an analyst at the
lab tasked with testing a sample taken
1071
01:11:56,970 --> 01:11:59,590
directly from the tie Cooper left behind
on the plane.
1072
01:12:00,050 --> 01:12:05,410
Should DNA be found within the sample,
the results could reopen a near 50 -year
1073
01:12:05,410 --> 01:12:09,550
-old case and confirm Eric's suspicions
about a person of interest.
1074
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:11,440
How are you?
1075
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:14,460
I'm good. How are you? I'm doing well.
1076
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,420
Well, my name is Samantha Wanzack, and I
currently work at DNA Labs
1077
01:12:18,420 --> 01:12:22,580
International. We're a private
laboratory out of Deerfield Beach in
1078
01:12:22,580 --> 01:12:26,940
we have clients in over 40 states, so
it's very easy to go back to any cold
1079
01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:30,820
and find more work to be done. So for
this case, I was actually the reporting
1080
01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:35,080
analyst for it. And how did you tackle
the material that I sent to you to try
1081
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,600
ascertain whether or not there's any...
1082
01:12:36,910 --> 01:12:41,290
DNA or not. Due to the size of the
filter, you actually cut it up in teeny
1083
01:12:41,290 --> 01:12:44,130
chunks and then set the whole filter for
extraction.
1084
01:12:44,810 --> 01:12:47,050
That's the first stage of the DNA
testing process.
1085
01:12:47,450 --> 01:12:51,550
We then try to determine how much DNA of
any is present in the sample. If we
1086
01:12:51,550 --> 01:12:54,310
have enough DNA, we'll then send it
forward for application.
1087
01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:58,530
When you have cases that are old,
typically you'll see a sample will be
1088
01:12:58,530 --> 01:13:02,170
degraded. That DNA is just going to
break apart over time and you're just
1089
01:13:02,170 --> 01:13:03,730
going to have as much intact DNA.
1090
01:13:04,590 --> 01:13:06,850
But I was very surprised with the
results.
1091
01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:10,910
So there was DNA in the filter.
1092
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:15,450
We did end up with a profile from one
male individual.
1093
01:13:15,870 --> 01:13:18,730
Is there some way to quantify like the
strength?
1094
01:13:18,970 --> 01:13:22,470
I mean, is it one of these things where
one out of a billion people would match
1095
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:28,030
this particular profile? Like how strong
is it? What can it tell us? Typically,
1096
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:30,250
once you have over 20 locations.
1097
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,760
You would have to see hundreds,
thousands, millions of planet Earths
1098
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,020
same current population to expect to see
that profile one time.
1099
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:42,220
So once you have over the 20 locations,
it usually becomes very rare.
1100
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:48,000
So what you're telling me is that we are
the very first people outside of the
1101
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,460
FBI to actually have D .B. Cooper's DNA
profile.
1102
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:58,460
I'm anxious to find out what that means.
What can it tell us?
1103
01:13:58,780 --> 01:14:02,700
in comparison to DNA profile from one of
Sheridan Peterson's daughters.
1104
01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:05,240
Does it match?
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She is not the biological daughter of
the male donor that we found.
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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,280
Wow.
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That's stunning.
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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:23,360
I mean, that's really remarkable given
everything I know about this guy.
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It's a game changer, obviously.
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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:32,000
The one thing that's very encouraging to
me, though, is that we have a very
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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,960
solid DNA profile from the tie.
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Getting a DNA profile is so important
because it can provide assurance to me
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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:48,400
others that this case is actually
solvable. I do very much appreciate all
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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,420
effort that you folks put into this.
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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,440
And I'm just very grateful that we've
got a solid DNA profile, and I'm
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01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:59,720
that we have some resolution with
respect to Sheridan Peterson. So, again,
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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,660
you very much for your efforts and your
time.
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Please feel free to contact me with any
additional questions that you have. We
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will do that.
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Now armed with new information from the
lab, Eric calls Agent Mary Jean Fryer to
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share the results.
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01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,760
Right now.
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01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:22,860
I want to give Mary Jean a call, and I
want to let her know what I have
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01:15:23,660 --> 01:15:29,180
Because Mary Jean has really helped move
my investigation forward, and I'm sure
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01:15:29,180 --> 01:15:32,260
she's going to want to know what I've
learned about the DNA.
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01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Hey, Mary Jean, how you doing? It's Eric
Uless calling.
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01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:44,060
I've got a DNA update. Finally have some
results from the lab in Florida.
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01:15:44,260 --> 01:15:47,340
They did come up with a...
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01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:51,490
full DNA profile, and it's from a male.
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01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:57,110
I'm getting really excited. My stomach's
like in knots because I'm hoping that
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01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:57,929
it's him.
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01:15:57,930 --> 01:16:03,650
They proved 100 % that the DNA does not
match.
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01:16:04,130 --> 01:16:05,190
Oh, damn!
1134
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:10,430
Sheridan Peterson is not D .B. Cooper.
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01:16:10,850 --> 01:16:14,930
Last conversation I had with Sheridan,
he point blank refused to go forward
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01:16:14,930 --> 01:16:15,930
the DNA.
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01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:17,110
get the DNA results.
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01:16:17,290 --> 01:16:23,150
I am absolutely convinced that the DNA
that we have is DB Cooper's DNA.
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01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:28,830
So if anybody matches this DNA profile,
all 20 points, that's your guy. There's
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01:16:28,830 --> 01:16:30,110
absolutely no doubt about it.
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01:16:30,370 --> 01:16:34,490
Can we run it in databases and find him,
or is this a lost cause at this point?
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01:16:34,810 --> 01:16:39,670
They actually can utilize it to run
through the CODIS system, but of course
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01:16:39,670 --> 01:16:43,610
involves law enforcement getting
involved and the courts getting
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01:16:44,030 --> 01:16:45,730
Eric, I think what you've done is...
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01:16:45,930 --> 01:16:46,210
I
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01:16:46,210 --> 01:16:57,330
honestly
1147
01:16:57,330 --> 01:17:03,950
believe we will eventually figure out
who this guy was. Thank you very
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01:17:03,950 --> 01:17:04,950
much. Take care.
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01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:10,550
After narrowing down Cooper's possible
landing site and eliminating an FBI
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01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:11,550
person of interest,
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01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,460
Eric's even more determined to continue
his mission.
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01:17:15,820 --> 01:17:22,080
I feel very empowered at the moment. I
feel more motivated than ever because
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01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:28,720
having this DNA profile provides an
outstanding blueprint as I continue to
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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:34,880
pursue this case. I am now actually
armed with precisely what I need
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01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:41,260
to determine who D .B. Cooper was and,
more importantly, to prove it.
1156
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,100
Time in a D .B. Cooper case has served
as a double -edged sword.
1157
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:52,040
In one sense, you have first -hand
witnesses that pass on and memories
1158
01:17:52,460 --> 01:17:57,460
But in another sense, we have advances
in science and technology.
1159
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:03,040
And I think when all is said and done,
time is going to be our friend because I
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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:09,100
firmly believe that this DNA profile is
ultimately what's going to break this
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01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:10,180
case wide open.
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01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,660
and is what is going to solve this case.
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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,260
The identity of D .B. Cooper has haunted
investigators for nearly five decades.
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01:18:18,660 --> 01:18:24,280
Who is this mysterious hijacker? And
will we ever finally discover his true
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01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,220
identity? I'm Lawrence Fishburne.
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Thank you for watching History's
Greatest Mysteries.
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