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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,997 --> 00:00:14,790 This is how it goes. 2 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:24,675 I bought this house in 1972. 3 00:00:25,926 --> 00:00:29,638 I'd just signed my first solo record contract. 4 00:00:29,722 --> 00:00:31,515 So I decided, "Okay, I'm gonna build 5 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:34,393 a little studio for myself to play around in." 6 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:39,857 I've done a lot of work in here. We made Blues for Allah in here. 7 00:00:41,025 --> 00:00:46,155 Both of my kids were born in our living room in front of our fireplace. 8 00:00:49,033 --> 00:00:54,455 I've probably got around 100 guitars. Gonna have to do. 9 00:00:54,538 --> 00:00:58,542 This one, I bought in 1970. 10 00:00:58,626 --> 00:01:01,545 350 bucks was all the money I could think about at the time. 11 00:01:01,629 --> 00:01:04,590 It's a 1959 Gibson 335. 12 00:01:04,673 --> 00:01:07,176 Like, the Holy Grail of thin body guitars. 13 00:01:07,260 --> 00:01:11,305 I played it for four or five years with the Grateful Dead. 14 00:01:11,389 --> 00:01:15,893 I'd prefer not to travel with it, but... I can't seem to not do it. 15 00:01:18,229 --> 00:01:21,649 This is a Grammy here. Lifetime Achievement award. 16 00:01:22,525 --> 00:01:24,068 And, uh... wow. 17 00:01:24,152 --> 00:01:28,322 We managed to put over a million people into Meadowlands Arena. 18 00:01:28,406 --> 00:01:31,034 They, uh, awarded us for that. 19 00:01:31,117 --> 00:01:34,453 This one is supposed to have a record on it... 20 00:01:34,537 --> 00:01:39,500 a big gold record and it's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That was in 1994. 21 00:01:40,793 --> 00:01:44,255 Jerry just one day handed me this. Said, "Here, you need this." 22 00:01:44,338 --> 00:01:48,051 I play it every now and again. Just for fun. 23 00:01:48,134 --> 00:01:53,472 We had a very strong bond and a shared sense of purpose. 24 00:01:54,307 --> 00:01:57,768 Jerry was my older brother, basically. 25 00:01:57,851 --> 00:02:02,148 Here's my Jerry bobblehead. 26 00:02:02,231 --> 00:02:07,236 I guess it's you and me, bub. Uh, Bob. 27 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Yeah. 28 00:02:21,584 --> 00:02:23,836 I've led kind of an unusual life. 29 00:02:32,220 --> 00:02:35,223 I was young for the experience of leaving home... 30 00:02:37,015 --> 00:02:39,602 and going out and seeing the world. 31 00:02:39,685 --> 00:02:40,936 But I was ready for it. 32 00:02:43,647 --> 00:02:46,109 It was such an amazing adventure. 33 00:02:49,445 --> 00:02:50,696 The music was an adventure. 34 00:02:51,947 --> 00:02:55,451 The people I was doing it with were an adventurous group. 35 00:03:03,542 --> 00:03:05,753 I've seen stuff that no one's seen. 36 00:03:05,836 --> 00:03:09,382 ♪ Spanish lady, come to me She lays on me this rose ♪ 37 00:03:13,010 --> 00:03:16,472 ♪ Rainbows spiral round and round They tremble and explode ♪ 38 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:23,521 ♪ Left a smoking crater of my mind I like to blow away ♪ 39 00:03:26,982 --> 00:03:30,194 ♪ Heat come round and busted me For smilin' on a cloudy day ♪ 40 00:03:30,278 --> 00:03:34,698 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 41 00:03:34,782 --> 00:03:38,411 ♪ Comin' around in a circle ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 42 00:03:38,494 --> 00:03:42,290 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 43 00:03:42,373 --> 00:03:45,083 ♪ Comin' around in a circle ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 44 00:03:45,168 --> 00:03:47,295 Mine has been a long, strange trip. 45 00:04:02,893 --> 00:04:06,104 Well, I was born in San Francisco in 1947. 46 00:04:07,273 --> 00:04:09,192 I was adopted at birth. 47 00:04:09,275 --> 00:04:12,736 My adoptive father was an engineer. 48 00:04:14,447 --> 00:04:16,657 I'll just pull up here. 49 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:19,952 My mom was something of a socialite. They couldn't have any kids. 50 00:04:20,035 --> 00:04:23,206 And so they decided, "Okay, well, let's adopt some." 51 00:04:25,082 --> 00:04:27,960 This wall didn't used to be here. 52 00:04:28,043 --> 00:04:31,088 They adopted my older brother and then they adopted me. 53 00:04:31,172 --> 00:04:33,299 And then a couple of years later, to their surprise, 54 00:04:33,382 --> 00:04:36,427 my mom became pregnant and my sister came along. 55 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:37,595 Wow. 56 00:04:37,678 --> 00:04:41,056 Well, there's nothing here. Our old house is gone. 57 00:04:43,642 --> 00:04:46,270 We had a very quiet, peaceful household. 58 00:04:46,354 --> 00:04:48,772 We had a beautiful home. 59 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:50,983 But our family was not really emotional. 60 00:04:51,650 --> 00:04:56,029 Our father came from the East Coast. It was more puritan and quiet. 61 00:04:56,113 --> 00:04:59,283 Bob certainly was the exception in the family. 62 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:03,871 I was pretty wild. 63 00:05:03,954 --> 00:05:08,542 I guess it's just in my blood. I'm pathologically anti-authoritarian. 64 00:05:08,626 --> 00:05:12,129 I've never been actually checked out on that, but... 65 00:05:12,213 --> 00:05:13,297 I'm right. 66 00:05:13,381 --> 00:05:15,966 He was the guy who never met a school 67 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:19,887 that he could stay in for more than two or three months. 68 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:22,050 Come to think of it, I was kicked out of play school. 69 00:05:22,097 --> 00:05:26,227 I dropped a hammer out of a treehouse on a kid's head. 70 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:27,978 And I'm not entirely sure why I did it. 71 00:05:28,061 --> 00:05:29,897 I think I just wanted to see if it'd hit him. 72 00:05:32,775 --> 00:05:34,735 Teachers knew that he had a problem reading, 73 00:05:34,818 --> 00:05:38,572 he had a problem learning how to write, and they figured he was stupid. 74 00:05:39,407 --> 00:05:43,869 In retrospect, my academic career would never have gone very far, 75 00:05:43,952 --> 00:05:46,705 'cause I'm dyslexic. It's just not gonna happen. 76 00:05:46,789 --> 00:05:48,081 Um... 77 00:05:48,165 --> 00:05:50,208 You know, I read a lot. 78 00:05:50,293 --> 00:05:52,169 But it takes so long 79 00:05:52,252 --> 00:05:56,715 that I would never have been able to study and make the grade. 80 00:05:56,799 --> 00:06:01,804 The first time I ever met Weir, we were both freshmen at Fountain Valley School 81 00:06:01,887 --> 00:06:05,182 that specialized in bright but unmanageable kids. 82 00:06:05,265 --> 00:06:06,266 And I'd turned around 83 00:06:06,350 --> 00:06:09,312 and there's this really dorky kid with really thick horn rims 84 00:06:09,395 --> 00:06:11,647 and his leg is going... 85 00:06:12,898 --> 00:06:17,445 For some reason, just immediately liked him. 86 00:06:17,528 --> 00:06:20,739 My older brother, John, taught me how to tune a radio 87 00:06:20,823 --> 00:06:24,452 right at the height of rock and roll hitting the airwaves. 88 00:06:24,535 --> 00:06:25,911 The guys who caught my ear were 89 00:06:25,994 --> 00:06:27,079 Chuck Berry, 90 00:06:27,162 --> 00:06:28,246 the Everly Brothers, 91 00:06:28,331 --> 00:06:29,498 Roy Orbison. 92 00:06:29,582 --> 00:06:30,958 What they had going was cool. 93 00:06:31,041 --> 00:06:33,669 I could hear that, I could feel it. I could feel the excitement. 94 00:06:33,752 --> 00:06:38,466 Then I got my first guitar, which is a pivot point in my life. 95 00:06:39,592 --> 00:06:42,553 At some point, he got a new guitar 96 00:06:42,636 --> 00:06:46,056 and stood there as proud as anybody can be 97 00:06:46,139 --> 00:06:49,602 and said, "What more could a boy want?" 98 00:06:49,685 --> 00:06:53,271 I'm not sure I'd ever discovered I had any talent or anything like that. 99 00:06:53,356 --> 00:06:55,399 It was just dogged persistence. 100 00:06:55,483 --> 00:06:58,486 I had to have the music and so I went after it. 101 00:07:01,029 --> 00:07:06,369 There was a little music store in Palo Alto, Dana Morgan Music. 102 00:07:08,078 --> 00:07:10,956 This is the first time I've been back here in decades. 103 00:07:13,208 --> 00:07:15,419 I used to work in the back there teaching lessons. 104 00:07:15,503 --> 00:07:17,129 Now it's a bed store. 105 00:07:17,212 --> 00:07:20,048 I'll tell you what, we'll go around the back. 106 00:07:24,553 --> 00:07:27,264 I think we might be able to get through over here. 107 00:07:28,391 --> 00:07:33,521 So back here somewhere was the back door to Dana Morgan Music. 108 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:37,525 And this is where, uh... 109 00:07:37,608 --> 00:07:41,529 It was right here where this wall is, I guess, now. 110 00:07:41,612 --> 00:07:44,573 This has been built out. This is where, uh... 111 00:07:44,657 --> 00:07:49,995 This is where on New Year's Eve of 1963 going into '64... 112 00:07:51,121 --> 00:07:52,915 Uh... 113 00:07:52,998 --> 00:07:55,709 You know, knocked on the door 114 00:07:55,793 --> 00:07:57,711 and met Jerry. 115 00:08:02,049 --> 00:08:04,927 Jerry was sort of a famous musician around the Palo Alto area. 116 00:08:05,010 --> 00:08:07,930 He was a banjo player primarily. 117 00:08:08,013 --> 00:08:11,392 All the kids that I was hanging with had great reverence for him. 118 00:08:11,475 --> 00:08:13,185 I'd been backstage with him a time or two 119 00:08:13,268 --> 00:08:17,355 when we were playing the open mic nights at the Tangent, but... 120 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,149 never actually formally met him. 121 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:21,902 I was walking this way, 122 00:08:21,985 --> 00:08:26,699 heard some banjo music coming from this area over in here... 123 00:08:26,782 --> 00:08:28,867 and figured it was Jerry. 124 00:08:28,951 --> 00:08:33,330 Knocked on the door to see if he was into hanging, 125 00:08:33,414 --> 00:08:35,708 and he was, 'cause his students weren't showing up 126 00:08:35,791 --> 00:08:39,252 because it was New Year's Eve and he was unmindful of that. 127 00:08:39,336 --> 00:08:42,380 I don't think he had thought that through. 128 00:08:42,465 --> 00:08:45,217 So we got to talking and then he asked me, 129 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:47,720 "Want to grab some instruments from the front of the shop?" 130 00:08:47,803 --> 00:08:49,555 And so we played all night. 131 00:08:49,638 --> 00:08:51,890 He was also a great guy to hang with. 132 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:55,060 He was a lot of fun, and we hit it off. 133 00:08:55,143 --> 00:08:58,564 We kept each other laughing and all that kind of stuff. 134 00:08:58,647 --> 00:09:00,023 Soon, we were a jug band 135 00:09:00,107 --> 00:09:03,569 and not long thereafter we were a rock and roll band. 136 00:09:03,652 --> 00:09:08,991 We were out of Palo Alto and into the city and... off to the world. 137 00:09:14,830 --> 00:09:17,833 So, we started a band called the Warlocks. 138 00:09:23,338 --> 00:09:25,674 I remember the first time I met Bob very well. 139 00:09:25,758 --> 00:09:27,050 I'm standing there talking to Jerry 140 00:09:27,134 --> 00:09:29,928 and I ask him, "Well, where's the weed, man?" 141 00:09:30,012 --> 00:09:33,056 And he says, "Oh, my guitar player's coming with some weed right now." 142 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:34,517 You know, any minute now." 143 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,811 So we go outside and we get in the car and there's Bob. 144 00:09:37,895 --> 00:09:40,022 Apparently, he had just scored from Neal Cassady. 145 00:09:40,105 --> 00:09:44,234 We sat in the car and rolled up, and we all got good and high, you know. 146 00:09:44,317 --> 00:09:45,653 And it was killer weed. 147 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,241 You know, Bob had that beautiful manner about him 148 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:56,371 that made everyone really love him from the get-go. 149 00:09:56,454 --> 00:10:01,126 He was sort of like the magic object in the middle of the band. 150 00:10:01,209 --> 00:10:03,249 If you look back there, you can see a swimming pool. 151 00:10:03,295 --> 00:10:06,256 To the right of that, there was a big lawn area. 152 00:10:06,339 --> 00:10:08,676 We played a lawn party there one time. 153 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:11,469 A little after dark, the neighbors started complaining, 154 00:10:11,554 --> 00:10:14,640 and the party got shut down. 155 00:10:14,723 --> 00:10:19,520 My folks were trying to get cozy with my new career as a rock and roller. 156 00:10:21,605 --> 00:10:25,025 I was a 16-year-old kid when I started playing with Jerry. 157 00:10:25,108 --> 00:10:27,528 And that's kind of where the ride began for me. 158 00:10:27,611 --> 00:10:29,029 You know, I wanted to play music, 159 00:10:29,112 --> 00:10:31,489 I wanted to have a little adventure in my life. 160 00:10:31,574 --> 00:10:33,158 And here it was, big as hell. 161 00:10:42,543 --> 00:10:46,672 I took LSD every Saturday, without fail, for about a year. 162 00:10:50,133 --> 00:10:52,928 First time I took acid was on Jerry's birthday, 163 00:10:53,011 --> 00:10:55,055 August 1st, 1965. 164 00:10:58,767 --> 00:11:03,606 I remember ending up on a hilltop with Sue Swanson. 165 00:11:03,689 --> 00:11:08,986 She did manage to coax out of me if I'd had any insights. 166 00:11:09,069 --> 00:11:13,323 I told her, "Yeah. You know, music. That's what I'm here for. Music." 167 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:26,920 I guess I was officially done with school when I ran off with the Pranksters. 168 00:11:28,881 --> 00:11:31,925 It was the night of my second Beatles concert. 169 00:11:32,009 --> 00:11:34,386 I was high on acid at the time. 170 00:11:35,387 --> 00:11:38,015 Out in the parking lot after the show, there was the bus, 171 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:40,058 with all the Pranksters in full drag 172 00:11:40,142 --> 00:11:43,228 hanging off it, swinging off it like monkeys. 173 00:11:43,311 --> 00:11:46,148 Yes, the Merry Band of Pranksters are everywhere. 174 00:11:46,231 --> 00:11:48,316 Everywhere. 175 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,238 I just, you know, I followed my bliss right onto the bus. 176 00:11:53,321 --> 00:11:55,490 I have the whole thing all grooved out. 177 00:11:57,367 --> 00:11:58,952 And there was Kesey. 178 00:11:59,036 --> 00:12:00,078 Mr. Kesey, do you feel 179 00:12:00,162 --> 00:12:03,581 that you have the right to do what you want, whatever you want? 180 00:12:03,666 --> 00:12:07,878 I feel a man has the right to be as big as he feels it in him to be. 181 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:09,880 And then there was this other guy on the bus 182 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:11,757 who seemed to be his grand vizier, 183 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,344 who just chattered and spoke... quite often in rhymes. 184 00:12:16,428 --> 00:12:18,847 Fourth dimension. We are actually fourth dimensional beings 185 00:12:18,931 --> 00:12:22,017 in a third dimensional body inhabiting a second dimensional world. 186 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:23,686 That was Neal Cassady. 187 00:12:25,312 --> 00:12:27,690 We are an Intrepid Trips production. 188 00:12:27,773 --> 00:12:31,902 But the Intrepid Trips production, at the moment, is the Acid Test. 189 00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:33,278 Acid Test. 190 00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:35,698 So Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters come along 191 00:12:35,781 --> 00:12:39,367 and they want to spread the word about this amazing new drug, LSD. 192 00:12:39,451 --> 00:12:42,705 And so they start having these parties called the Acid Test. 193 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:51,839 The Acid Tests were permissive bedlam. 194 00:12:52,881 --> 00:12:58,261 They were large rooms in which numbers of stoned people 195 00:12:58,345 --> 00:13:03,892 were singing, fucking, chirping, imitating animals. 196 00:13:03,976 --> 00:13:08,646 Anything that you could possibly imagine was going on at the Acid Test. 197 00:13:10,482 --> 00:13:12,192 I think they charged a buck at the door. 198 00:13:12,275 --> 00:13:13,819 There was LSD in the Kool-Aid 199 00:13:13,902 --> 00:13:18,240 and everybody got a cup of Kool-Aid for a buck and got to go into the party. 200 00:13:18,323 --> 00:13:19,449 It was a big success. 201 00:13:19,532 --> 00:13:22,577 It was a big, monster party, but there wasn't any music. 202 00:13:32,921 --> 00:13:37,342 We brought our equipment and took LSD, and we plugged in and we played. 203 00:13:47,936 --> 00:13:51,356 We all had Prankster names like, Phil was Reddy Kilowatt. 204 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:53,483 Billy was Bill the Drummer. 205 00:13:53,566 --> 00:13:56,653 Jerry's was Captain Trips. I was the Kid. 206 00:13:58,822 --> 00:14:02,575 It was impossibly fun. 207 00:14:06,038 --> 00:14:11,043 When you take LSD, your awareness is greatly expanded. 208 00:14:11,126 --> 00:14:13,837 At the same time, you're profoundly disoriented. 209 00:14:14,754 --> 00:14:17,174 Yeah, you've got your hands and you know how to play a few chords 210 00:14:17,257 --> 00:14:19,384 and you know how to play rhythmically, 211 00:14:19,467 --> 00:14:22,888 but when the guitar's turned into some snake-like critter, 212 00:14:22,971 --> 00:14:28,726 and you're watching notes in lines... in color go by... 213 00:14:28,811 --> 00:14:31,146 You know, it's hard to relate to all this stuff. 214 00:14:31,229 --> 00:14:33,398 "What is the deal here?" 215 00:14:33,481 --> 00:14:36,484 And still you got a gig, you got to play. 216 00:14:38,278 --> 00:14:43,241 There were a few times when we'd take acid and we'd walk out and try to play 217 00:14:43,325 --> 00:14:45,285 and couldn't make sense of anything. 218 00:14:45,368 --> 00:14:48,538 We'd just throw up our hands and flee. 219 00:14:49,832 --> 00:14:53,794 But then we'd come back together and we'd play like demons. 220 00:14:53,877 --> 00:14:55,753 We'd take a song and at the end, 221 00:14:55,838 --> 00:14:59,549 we'd just, rather than ending it, let's just stretch it out. 222 00:15:01,134 --> 00:15:04,262 Play with the rhythm, play with the texture. 223 00:15:07,765 --> 00:15:10,685 That's kind of how we learned to extend and improvise. 224 00:15:11,895 --> 00:15:13,771 "I'm gonna work this chord change for a while. 225 00:15:13,856 --> 00:15:17,067 I've heard the jazz guys do it, and I'm gonna try my hand at it." 226 00:15:19,652 --> 00:15:23,991 There was a lot of extrasensory communication going on. 227 00:15:24,074 --> 00:15:25,868 And, you know, I don't want to call it "telepathy," 228 00:15:25,951 --> 00:15:29,830 'cause there was that, too, but there was more than that. 229 00:15:31,081 --> 00:15:33,125 You could see through other people's eyes, 230 00:15:33,208 --> 00:15:36,711 you could hear through other people's ears. 231 00:15:36,794 --> 00:15:40,798 That was the kind of stuff that we were exploring back then. 232 00:15:40,883 --> 00:15:42,050 The pressure wasn't on us. 233 00:15:42,134 --> 00:15:44,845 So when we did play, we played with a certain kind of freedom 234 00:15:44,928 --> 00:15:46,288 that you rarely get as a musician. 235 00:15:46,346 --> 00:15:48,932 Not only did we not have to fulfill expectations about us, 236 00:15:49,016 --> 00:15:51,684 but we didn't have to fulfill expectations about music either. 237 00:15:54,729 --> 00:15:57,607 We played the topless places after the Acid Test, 238 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:00,360 while we were still sort of drifting around, 239 00:16:00,443 --> 00:16:03,113 and we were already starting to stretch out our tunes. 240 00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:07,951 And the girls hated us 'cause they were used to a two minute, 30-second tune, 241 00:16:08,035 --> 00:16:09,995 and then another girl would come up. And we'd go out, 242 00:16:10,078 --> 00:16:15,042 we'd play for like 15 minutes and they'd just run out of gas. 243 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:21,548 So they didn't dig it that much. 244 00:16:21,631 --> 00:16:24,801 So we're playing really long and this poor chick turns around, 245 00:16:24,885 --> 00:16:27,220 her tits are flying, sweat's flying off her tits going, 246 00:16:27,304 --> 00:16:29,681 "Please, can't you play a little shorter?" 247 00:16:29,764 --> 00:16:33,018 So we found out the meaning of jam band right then. 248 00:16:33,101 --> 00:16:35,187 But that was, you know, just early stuff. 249 00:16:35,270 --> 00:16:37,855 And then Bobby took her home probably after the show. 250 00:16:39,274 --> 00:16:41,401 And that was the start of 251 00:16:41,484 --> 00:16:44,737 what became, for all intents and purposes, the Grateful Dead. 252 00:16:53,663 --> 00:16:57,625 It's legendarily hard to make a living being a musician anyway. 253 00:16:57,709 --> 00:17:00,503 You know, my folks couldn't see much future in it. 254 00:17:00,587 --> 00:17:03,131 I'll never forget the time his mom showed up at Jerry's 255 00:17:03,215 --> 00:17:07,344 and she made us swear mighty oaths that Bob went to school every day. 256 00:17:07,427 --> 00:17:10,055 And if we did that, she would let him stay in the band. 257 00:17:10,138 --> 00:17:12,099 Well, you can imagine how that turned out. 258 00:17:12,182 --> 00:17:16,061 Bob would wake up for dinner, 259 00:17:16,144 --> 00:17:19,856 and then go out and perform all night, and then he'd come home for breakfast. 260 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:22,775 My mother kept saying, "Can't you have a normal life?" 261 00:17:27,822 --> 00:17:29,824 So when Bob turned 18, 262 00:17:29,907 --> 00:17:33,703 our mother finally said, "Enough! I can't deal with any more." 263 00:17:33,786 --> 00:17:36,373 So she asked Bob to move out of the house. 264 00:17:37,915 --> 00:17:40,793 Bob looked so young. 265 00:17:40,877 --> 00:17:42,963 And back in the day, he looked like a baby. 266 00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:47,509 But there was something about their looseness 267 00:17:47,592 --> 00:17:50,762 in terms of life and in terms of their music 268 00:17:50,845 --> 00:17:53,765 that was picked up by the crowds. 269 00:17:53,848 --> 00:17:56,476 There was that great time when we put 270 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:59,104 the flatbed trucks together in front of the Straight Theater. 271 00:17:59,187 --> 00:18:01,523 We filled all of Haight Street with people. 272 00:18:01,606 --> 00:18:03,400 As far as you could see, there was people. 273 00:18:03,483 --> 00:18:04,643 It was like, it was coming... 274 00:18:04,651 --> 00:18:06,569 It was so fast and there was so much good energy 275 00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:08,905 that you couldn't really take any one part of it. 276 00:18:08,989 --> 00:18:11,033 It was like this beautiful picture, you know? 277 00:18:11,116 --> 00:18:13,201 And that was just amazing times. 278 00:18:13,285 --> 00:18:16,829 Then they actually started doing free concerts in Golden Gate Park. 279 00:18:16,913 --> 00:18:21,043 You know, when I left home, I was, you know, following my bliss. 280 00:18:21,126 --> 00:18:22,835 And my folks had no answer for that. 281 00:18:22,919 --> 00:18:25,297 They couldn't say I was wrong 282 00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:28,341 because they could see that I was really doing what I wanted to do 283 00:18:28,425 --> 00:18:31,136 and I was making something of it. 284 00:18:32,095 --> 00:18:36,516 The whole experience, it bonded the band, it made us tighter than brothers. 285 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:39,311 They say that blood is thicker than water. 286 00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,188 What we had was thicker than blood. 287 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,193 Bob didn't maintain much contact with his family. 288 00:18:46,276 --> 00:18:49,237 So the band was his family. 289 00:18:49,321 --> 00:18:51,489 The Grateful Dead weren't a birth family, 290 00:18:51,573 --> 00:18:54,284 they weren't an adopted family, these were his family. 291 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,704 And he was very close to them, they were close to one another. 292 00:18:58,746 --> 00:19:01,791 The relationship between Jerry and Bob, I think most of the time, 293 00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:05,128 it was that kind of big brother, little brother thing. 294 00:19:05,212 --> 00:19:09,049 You know, we all know that Weir joined the band when he was, like, 17. 295 00:19:09,132 --> 00:19:11,134 I think the guys in the band were his family. 296 00:19:11,218 --> 00:19:13,010 And same with Jerry, you know? 297 00:19:13,095 --> 00:19:16,973 He didn't have a strong family at home. You know, he... 298 00:19:17,057 --> 00:19:18,100 That was his family. 299 00:19:18,183 --> 00:19:22,687 And the experiences that they went through together made them closer. 300 00:19:24,481 --> 00:19:28,568 You know, Jerry and I didn't need to talk 301 00:19:28,651 --> 00:19:34,199 to know what each other was thinking or how each other was feeling. 302 00:19:37,994 --> 00:19:41,831 Most of the stuff we talked about was horseshit, uh... 303 00:19:41,914 --> 00:19:45,710 just to keep each other amused. We were bros. 304 00:19:45,793 --> 00:19:49,589 And we were on a huge adventure, 305 00:19:49,672 --> 00:19:52,049 and we were loving it. 306 00:19:55,553 --> 00:19:57,597 - Thanks, Murray. - Hey, no problem. Thank you. 307 00:20:00,683 --> 00:20:03,478 - Love you, Bobby. - Hello. 308 00:20:06,439 --> 00:20:07,940 Hey, Bobby, have a good show. 309 00:20:08,024 --> 00:20:09,442 Love you, Bobby. 310 00:20:18,410 --> 00:20:20,787 - See you in a bit. - You bet, thanks. 311 00:20:25,125 --> 00:20:27,294 ♪ Compass card is spinning ♪ 312 00:20:33,133 --> 00:20:36,803 ♪ Helm is swinging to and fro ♪ 313 00:20:39,472 --> 00:20:40,515 ♪ Ooh ♪ 314 00:20:42,684 --> 00:20:45,187 ♪ Where's the dog star? ♪ 315 00:20:47,314 --> 00:20:48,898 ♪ Ooh ♪ 316 00:20:50,192 --> 00:20:52,527 ♪ Where's the moon? ♪ 317 00:20:56,364 --> 00:20:59,992 ♪ You're a lost sailor ♪ 318 00:21:04,289 --> 00:21:06,874 ♪ Been too long at sea ♪ 319 00:21:10,878 --> 00:21:14,048 ♪ Now the shorelines beckon ♪ 320 00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:18,052 ♪ Yeah, there's a price for being ♪ 321 00:21:18,135 --> 00:21:21,889 ♪ Free ♪ 322 00:21:39,991 --> 00:21:43,786 Okay, now here it is. A long time ago, I lived here. 323 00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:46,331 We used to hang on the steps a lot. 324 00:21:46,414 --> 00:21:50,001 This tree wasn't nearly as big, so there was a lot of sun on the steps. 325 00:21:51,085 --> 00:21:52,879 Was it the same color? 326 00:21:52,962 --> 00:21:55,423 No, this neighborhood has been sort of... 327 00:21:55,507 --> 00:21:58,676 - Repainted? - It's been repainted and rebuffed. 328 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,138 - Wait, who lived here with you? - Uh, the whole band. 329 00:22:03,765 --> 00:22:08,144 This is the house of a popular local band which plays hard rock music. 330 00:22:08,228 --> 00:22:10,272 They call themselves the Grateful Dead. 331 00:22:10,355 --> 00:22:14,317 They live together comfortably in what could be called "affluence." 332 00:22:14,401 --> 00:22:17,194 710 Ashbury, it was like that famous Bob song, 333 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,322 "We can share the women, we can share the wine." 334 00:22:19,406 --> 00:22:22,116 But we weren't doing so much wine, but mostly pot. 335 00:22:22,199 --> 00:22:25,202 We were a family living in a house. 336 00:22:25,287 --> 00:22:27,038 We were a business, we were a band. 337 00:22:27,121 --> 00:22:30,667 I was a city boy suddenly for the first time. 338 00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:34,128 This was Pigpen's room in here. 339 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,049 - And then this was your room. - Yeah. 340 00:22:38,132 --> 00:22:41,218 I had a big brass bed against that wall. 341 00:22:41,303 --> 00:22:43,721 It was my chore to answer the door. 342 00:22:43,805 --> 00:22:45,973 I was the only guy in the band with any manners. 343 00:22:46,057 --> 00:22:49,018 I think this might have been where Phil lived. 344 00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:52,271 I'm a little hazy on who was where. 345 00:22:52,355 --> 00:22:56,025 This might have been where Jerry lived. 346 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:59,153 Jerry used to practice a lot in that room. 347 00:22:59,236 --> 00:23:01,906 The Grateful Dead's concept of a new style of life is, 348 00:23:01,989 --> 00:23:05,410 in most cases, drawn from the drug experience. 349 00:23:05,493 --> 00:23:07,454 The people that live in the community 350 00:23:07,537 --> 00:23:11,207 and, you know, play around with dope and stuff like that, 351 00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:13,292 they don't have wars, you know? 352 00:23:13,376 --> 00:23:16,338 And they don't have a lot of problems 353 00:23:16,421 --> 00:23:20,550 that the larger society has. 354 00:23:22,051 --> 00:23:26,097 You know, we were, sort of, relatively famous around here. 355 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:29,726 My roommate was Neal Cassady. He lived there with us. 356 00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:31,811 Now, Neal Cassady is a guy... 357 00:23:33,355 --> 00:23:37,442 um, that I'll tell you girls about when you're a little older, 358 00:23:37,525 --> 00:23:39,276 'cause it's hard to understand. 359 00:23:39,361 --> 00:23:43,698 The guy lived in a lot of places, a lot of different dimensions. 360 00:23:43,781 --> 00:23:48,453 He could hold a conversation with a table full of people. 361 00:23:48,536 --> 00:23:50,872 It would be one-on-one conversations with the whole table. 362 00:23:50,955 --> 00:23:53,833 One line that he would voice 363 00:23:53,916 --> 00:23:57,587 would be part of a totally different conversation with everybody else. 364 00:23:57,670 --> 00:23:59,756 He was an amazing man. 365 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:02,049 Neal was like our speed freak uncle. 366 00:24:02,133 --> 00:24:06,012 And he was good friends with Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, 367 00:24:06,095 --> 00:24:07,680 and what he really liked to do 368 00:24:07,764 --> 00:24:10,600 was to help us fill in the gaps in our educations, 369 00:24:10,683 --> 00:24:12,143 about Beat literature, 370 00:24:12,226 --> 00:24:15,647 about the multidimensional universe that we live in, 371 00:24:15,730 --> 00:24:20,359 and 1,000 other themes that had to do with driving fast cars on a nice day. 372 00:24:21,778 --> 00:24:23,446 He taught me to drive. 373 00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:28,200 I try not to practice this method of driving too much these days, 374 00:24:28,284 --> 00:24:30,662 'cause I don't want my kids to try to learn it. 375 00:24:30,745 --> 00:24:34,666 But he could drive through rush hour traffic in San Francisco 376 00:24:34,749 --> 00:24:37,084 at 50, 55 miles an hour. 377 00:24:38,002 --> 00:24:42,089 Never stopping for a stop sign, never a stop light. 378 00:24:42,173 --> 00:24:44,426 Somehow he never hit anything. 379 00:24:44,509 --> 00:24:48,179 He just knew where everything was and what was coming 380 00:24:48,262 --> 00:24:53,560 and knew how to be in the right place at the right time. 381 00:24:53,643 --> 00:24:56,438 But he lived wherever he wanted to live. 382 00:24:56,521 --> 00:25:01,108 His body was here, but his spirit, his soul, his... 383 00:25:01,192 --> 00:25:06,280 Whatever it is that we are, it could be wherever he wanted to be. 384 00:25:08,533 --> 00:25:12,454 You just had to see it to... 385 00:25:13,788 --> 00:25:15,372 see it. 386 00:25:18,334 --> 00:25:21,588 Neal influenced me greatly. 387 00:25:21,671 --> 00:25:26,008 He embodied the American Zen. 388 00:25:26,092 --> 00:25:30,179 I got to watch this enough, 389 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:33,015 so that... 390 00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:37,019 I like to think that I kind of picked up some of that. 391 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:43,442 The first song I ever wrote was "The Other One". 392 00:25:43,526 --> 00:25:47,321 And Neal Cassady helped me sort it out. 393 00:25:47,404 --> 00:25:49,574 This was my first real adventure with songwriting. 394 00:25:49,657 --> 00:25:52,660 It was a story that was trying to be told. 395 00:25:55,497 --> 00:25:58,958 I was just being the character that I saw in the movie... 396 00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:04,255 and the character in the movie was kind of a cartoon version of me. 397 00:26:04,338 --> 00:26:08,885 ♪ Spanish lady, come to me She lays on me this rose ♪ 398 00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:15,892 ♪ It rainbows spiral round and round It trembles and explodes ♪ 399 00:26:19,061 --> 00:26:23,274 ♪ It left a smoking crater of my mind I like to blow away ♪ 400 00:26:26,193 --> 00:26:31,073 ♪ But the heat come round and busted me For smilin' on a cloudy day ♪ 401 00:26:31,157 --> 00:26:32,992 The first verse ends in, 402 00:26:33,075 --> 00:26:36,120 "The heat came round and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day." 403 00:26:36,203 --> 00:26:38,915 That was autobiographical. 404 00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:42,418 I threw a water balloon in the vicinity of a cop, 405 00:26:42,501 --> 00:26:44,461 and, of course, went to jail for that. 406 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,466 ♪ Escapin' through the lily fields I came across an empty space ♪ 407 00:26:52,804 --> 00:26:56,933 ♪ It trembled and exploded Left a bus stop in its place ♪ 408 00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:03,272 ♪ The bus come by and I got on That's when it all began ♪ 409 00:27:03,355 --> 00:27:05,316 I was going back to the good ship, Furthur, 410 00:27:05,399 --> 00:27:07,068 the bus that I left home on. 411 00:27:07,151 --> 00:27:10,529 "And there was cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never-ever land." 412 00:27:10,613 --> 00:27:14,366 ♪ There was cowboy Neal at the wheel Of a bus to never-ever land ♪ 413 00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:19,080 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 414 00:27:19,914 --> 00:27:22,166 And I knew I had the verse and I had the song, 415 00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:24,210 and we played it the next night. 416 00:27:24,293 --> 00:27:26,629 And that was the last night on the tour and then we came home. 417 00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:27,880 And when we came home, 418 00:27:27,964 --> 00:27:31,383 we came home to the news that Neal Cassady had died. 419 00:27:31,467 --> 00:27:34,470 He'd checked out that night while I was writing the song. 420 00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:39,016 He died walking the railroad tracks 421 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,769 somewhere near San Miguel de Allende in Mexico. 422 00:27:41,853 --> 00:27:45,857 And so it didn't take me long to figure out that 423 00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:47,984 Neal was there with me that night. 424 00:27:48,067 --> 00:27:52,571 He was also, at that point, free of the bonds of space, 425 00:27:52,655 --> 00:27:53,698 so he could be there with me, 426 00:27:53,781 --> 00:27:56,575 though he was busy dying, or dead, in Mexico. 427 00:27:57,534 --> 00:28:01,956 That verse is a little bit of him alive, I think, whenever I sing it. 428 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,716 Wait, where are you? I don't think you're there, honey. 429 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:13,342 - Mmm-mmm. - Who is that? 430 00:28:13,425 --> 00:28:14,761 It's Jerry and Pigpen. 431 00:28:14,844 --> 00:28:17,263 He's not there. 432 00:28:17,346 --> 00:28:20,557 - Oh, it's because he's not dead. - Oh, yeah, hello... 433 00:28:22,518 --> 00:28:23,853 Right. 434 00:28:34,155 --> 00:28:37,950 ♪ Truckin' Got my chips cashed in ♪ 435 00:28:38,034 --> 00:28:41,328 ♪ Keep truckin' Like the do-dah man ♪ 436 00:28:41,412 --> 00:28:44,957 ♪ Together More or less in line ♪ 437 00:28:45,041 --> 00:28:48,753 ♪ Just keep truckin' Oh, oh, oh ♪ 438 00:28:50,254 --> 00:28:52,256 In 1970, the Grateful Dead put out 439 00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:55,259 the two seminal albums of their career, really. 440 00:28:55,342 --> 00:28:57,053 The ones that defined them for most of the audience 441 00:28:57,136 --> 00:28:58,888 that would like them for the rest of their career. 442 00:28:58,971 --> 00:29:01,933 Workingman's Dead and American Beauty. 443 00:29:02,016 --> 00:29:04,601 And American Beauty had some interesting tunes 444 00:29:04,686 --> 00:29:06,938 that Bob was primarily responsible for. 445 00:29:07,021 --> 00:29:09,857 One was "Truckin'," of course, which was their first hit single. 446 00:29:09,941 --> 00:29:13,152 ♪ Busted down on Bourbon Street ♪ 447 00:29:13,235 --> 00:29:16,739 ♪ Set up like a bowlin' pin ♪ 448 00:29:16,823 --> 00:29:20,242 ♪ Knocked down It gets to wearin' thin ♪ 449 00:29:20,326 --> 00:29:24,038 ♪ They just won't let you be ♪ 450 00:29:24,872 --> 00:29:26,791 People had heard of the Grateful Dead, 451 00:29:26,874 --> 00:29:30,670 and maybe heard some of our live recordings, 452 00:29:30,753 --> 00:29:32,839 but that stuff was rough. 453 00:29:32,922 --> 00:29:35,800 We weren't as developed as recording artists. 454 00:29:35,883 --> 00:29:40,346 When we actually got around to making some proper studio records, 455 00:29:40,429 --> 00:29:43,057 we started picking up fans in numbers. 456 00:29:44,684 --> 00:29:48,354 ♪ Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me ♪ 457 00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:54,568 ♪ Other times I can barely see ♪ 458 00:29:56,653 --> 00:30:00,449 It was a big step for us because we got a sense of, 459 00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:02,534 "This is what we're here to do." 460 00:30:02,618 --> 00:30:07,539 ♪ What a long, strange trip it's been ♪ 461 00:30:08,249 --> 00:30:10,752 We were being successful making music, 462 00:30:10,835 --> 00:30:13,796 and people are gonna pay us to do this. 463 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,924 And that was like Christmas for all of us. 464 00:30:17,008 --> 00:30:20,261 ♪ Truckin' I'm a-goin' home ♪ 465 00:30:20,344 --> 00:30:23,848 ♪ Whoa, whoa, baby Back where I belong ♪ 466 00:30:23,931 --> 00:30:27,393 ♪ Back home Down to patch my bones ♪ 467 00:30:27,476 --> 00:30:30,980 ♪ Get back truckin' on ♪ ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ 468 00:30:32,356 --> 00:30:34,608 We weren't starving artists anymore. 469 00:30:34,691 --> 00:30:40,948 We moved out of the saloon circuit and started playing theaters. 470 00:30:41,032 --> 00:30:45,912 We hit the road. We never looked back. There was no point in looking back. 471 00:30:46,954 --> 00:30:51,375 And also we got a gold record 472 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:54,170 and I got to bring that home to my parents. 473 00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:58,925 That made them feel a whole lot better about, uh... 474 00:30:59,008 --> 00:31:02,303 about my having run off with the circus, basically. 475 00:31:03,054 --> 00:31:06,766 We're gonna take a short break, 476 00:31:06,849 --> 00:31:10,561 and we'll be back in just a few minutes, so don't go nowhere. 477 00:31:20,696 --> 00:31:24,241 It's real hard for me to put into words what it is that I do with Garcia, 478 00:31:24,325 --> 00:31:27,661 but I try to provide counterpoint for what he does. 479 00:31:31,123 --> 00:31:32,959 We had fairly defined roles. 480 00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:35,377 I was the rhythm guitarist, Jerry was lead guitarist. 481 00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:40,716 I was there to supply chords and rhythm for Jerry to play over the top of. 482 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,801 But the traditional role 483 00:31:41,884 --> 00:31:45,262 of a rock and roll rhythm guitarist is somewhat limited. 484 00:31:45,346 --> 00:31:50,184 I got to where I was feeling kind of hemmed in with what I was doing. 485 00:31:50,267 --> 00:31:53,229 At the same time, I was listening to a lot of jazz and stuff like that 486 00:31:53,312 --> 00:31:57,608 and I was listening to the piano players. Bill Evans, McCoy Tyner. 487 00:32:02,363 --> 00:32:04,115 And I listened to the way they chorded. 488 00:32:12,123 --> 00:32:15,709 Particularly McCoy Tyner, the way he chorded underneath John Coltrane 489 00:32:15,792 --> 00:32:17,920 and supplying John Coltrane with all kinds of 490 00:32:18,004 --> 00:32:20,840 harmonic counterpoint to what he was doing. 491 00:32:20,923 --> 00:32:22,174 That appealed to me greatly. 492 00:32:22,258 --> 00:32:27,972 And so I started trying to learn to do that on the guitar for Jerry. 493 00:32:49,493 --> 00:32:52,704 Garcia completely wove his stuff 494 00:32:52,788 --> 00:32:55,749 around the expectation of what Weir would weave in. 495 00:32:55,832 --> 00:32:59,586 If Jerry had the line with the most energy, the most life to it, 496 00:32:59,670 --> 00:33:00,922 we'd fall in behind him. 497 00:33:01,005 --> 00:33:02,965 If I was that guy, then they'd fall in behind me. 498 00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:04,550 That was what the band was all about. 499 00:33:04,633 --> 00:33:08,220 Supporting whoever is moving the story furthest, fastest. 500 00:33:13,017 --> 00:33:15,727 An awful lot of attention went to Jerry. 501 00:33:15,811 --> 00:33:18,605 And yet to me, it was more really the interplay 502 00:33:18,689 --> 00:33:20,107 between Bob and the band. 503 00:33:20,191 --> 00:33:22,985 That is what I found the most exciting. 504 00:33:24,946 --> 00:33:28,615 We developed a sort of an intertwined sense of intuition. 505 00:33:28,699 --> 00:33:32,578 I could intuit where Jerry was going with a line for instance, on stage. 506 00:33:34,246 --> 00:33:37,708 And try to hustle up, get the full drift of that 507 00:33:37,791 --> 00:33:41,295 and then be there when he got there with a little surprise for him. 508 00:33:46,092 --> 00:33:49,511 With Weir, he's an extraordinarily original player, 509 00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:52,848 you know, in a world full of people who sound like each other, you know? 510 00:33:52,932 --> 00:33:56,936 I mean, really, he has really got a style that's totally unique as far as I know. 511 00:33:57,019 --> 00:33:59,855 I don't know anybody else that plays the guitar the way he does. 512 00:33:59,939 --> 00:34:03,025 That in itself is, I think, really a score, 513 00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:07,196 considering how derivative almost all electric guitar playing is. 514 00:34:11,993 --> 00:34:17,456 Bob arguably has the most unique guitar style of anybody playing in music. 515 00:34:17,539 --> 00:34:19,666 And I've loved it forever. 516 00:34:30,636 --> 00:34:32,388 I spent a bunch of years 517 00:34:32,471 --> 00:34:36,017 trying to emulate the kind of way he would voice chords. 518 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,643 'Cause I just felt like it was so unusual. 519 00:34:37,726 --> 00:34:40,896 He was super creative in this way that nobody else was doing. 520 00:34:42,564 --> 00:34:44,441 First time I ever played with Bob, 521 00:34:44,525 --> 00:34:47,153 you know, we started playing straight up 12-bar blues. 522 00:34:47,236 --> 00:34:50,489 And I'm noticing that in one key of E, 523 00:34:50,572 --> 00:34:53,825 he's played about 12 friggin' inversions of... 524 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:58,830 He don't play just, E, E, E. He goes, E, E, E, E, E, E, E. 525 00:35:05,171 --> 00:35:10,301 He knows so many inversions of a chord that it blew my mind. 526 00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:13,554 You know, number two's as important as number one. 527 00:35:13,637 --> 00:35:14,930 If you don't have an ego, 528 00:35:15,014 --> 00:35:16,890 you can be the best number two on the planet, 529 00:35:16,973 --> 00:35:18,267 and that's kind of what Bob became. 530 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:20,186 It makes him special. 531 00:35:33,574 --> 00:35:36,118 Where does it want to go from there? 532 00:35:43,584 --> 00:35:46,920 Let me just listen in my head for a minute. 533 00:35:51,633 --> 00:35:53,673 In writing songs, it's best if it all comes at once, 534 00:35:53,677 --> 00:35:56,097 but that rarely happens. 535 00:35:56,180 --> 00:36:00,184 Most often, I think, what I probably end up doing is, uh... 536 00:36:00,267 --> 00:36:02,603 is just fumbling around on the guitar 537 00:36:02,686 --> 00:36:05,522 and just playing and finding something I like 538 00:36:05,606 --> 00:36:07,766 and then starting to string things together from there. 539 00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:15,866 That one I've been playing with for a little while. 540 00:36:23,124 --> 00:36:26,335 And I'm gonna find somewhere to take that. 541 00:36:28,295 --> 00:36:30,381 Maybe even over the weekend. 542 00:36:33,384 --> 00:36:35,051 There's no logic to it. 543 00:36:35,136 --> 00:36:37,856 It comes through the window when it wants to come through the window. 544 00:36:37,888 --> 00:36:42,643 There are countless nights that I'd rather have been sleeping, 545 00:36:42,726 --> 00:36:44,520 but I was up writing. 546 00:36:45,604 --> 00:36:47,773 The first real writing for keeps that I ever did 547 00:36:47,856 --> 00:36:49,691 was when the Grateful Dead, 548 00:36:49,775 --> 00:36:52,403 when we were just writing stuff all together 549 00:36:52,486 --> 00:36:56,573 and I'd come up with a line here, a phrase here. 550 00:37:00,076 --> 00:37:03,664 Being younger, I had difficulty being taken seriously. 551 00:37:03,747 --> 00:37:07,834 I really had to be kind of forceful, otherwise I was gonna get overlooked. 552 00:37:07,918 --> 00:37:11,422 ♪ Lost now in the country miles in his Cadillac ♪ 553 00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:18,262 ♪ I can tell by the way you smile You're rolling back ♪ 554 00:37:20,472 --> 00:37:24,017 ♪ Come wash the nighttime clean ♪ 555 00:37:27,062 --> 00:37:30,857 ♪ Come grow this scorched ground green ♪ 556 00:37:32,693 --> 00:37:35,154 There are hardly any more important musicians 557 00:37:35,237 --> 00:37:36,905 than the Grateful Dead and Bob Weir. 558 00:37:36,988 --> 00:37:40,659 Yeah, he's just a super down to earth, genuine person, 559 00:37:40,742 --> 00:37:42,744 who happens to be this total icon. 560 00:37:42,828 --> 00:37:45,414 ♪ You and me, Cassidy ♪ 561 00:37:48,124 --> 00:37:50,294 ♪ Quick beats in an icy heart ♪ 562 00:37:51,462 --> 00:37:53,464 ♪ Catch-colt draws a coffin cart ♪ 563 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:57,676 ♪ There he goes, and now here she starts Hear her cry ♪ 564 00:38:01,513 --> 00:38:03,599 ♪ Flight of the seabirds ♪ 565 00:38:04,850 --> 00:38:06,477 ♪ Scattered like lost words ♪ 566 00:38:08,103 --> 00:38:09,896 ♪ Wheel to the storm and fly ♪ 567 00:38:11,732 --> 00:38:15,902 Yesterday, he was sort of breaking down "Cassidy" for us 568 00:38:15,986 --> 00:38:21,992 and kind of just, sort of, unlocking the magic of the parts as it happened. 569 00:38:22,075 --> 00:38:24,828 And then as we started to play, like, "Oh, it sounds, you know... 570 00:38:24,911 --> 00:38:27,456 It's like, Without a Net, 1989." We're like... 571 00:38:27,539 --> 00:38:30,917 So we kind of, you know... It was pretty electric. 572 00:39:01,282 --> 00:39:03,158 ♪ Flight of the seabirds ♪ 573 00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:06,328 ♪ Scattered like lost words ♪ 574 00:39:07,538 --> 00:39:09,790 ♪ Wheel to the storm and fly ♪ 575 00:39:33,021 --> 00:39:34,461 Did you think when you were starting 576 00:39:34,481 --> 00:39:36,317 that it would ever evolve into this mystique 577 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,485 that has come to surround the group called the Grateful Dead? 578 00:39:38,569 --> 00:39:40,696 - We didn't think when we were starting. - No, we didn't think. 579 00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:42,323 Right. 580 00:39:48,203 --> 00:39:52,583 We started to get the drift that our fans were a little bit different... 581 00:39:53,667 --> 00:40:00,256 when we started seeing the same faces in the front row every night on a tour. 582 00:40:02,593 --> 00:40:08,640 It came home a little more when we started seeing tents set up in the parking lot. 583 00:40:08,724 --> 00:40:13,437 And realized, okay, we've got kind of a little gypsy entourage here. 584 00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:19,150 We had this following of people who had dropped out of normal society 585 00:40:19,234 --> 00:40:22,153 and just followed us around and created their own little society. 586 00:40:22,237 --> 00:40:24,490 That's kind of what I did. 587 00:40:24,573 --> 00:40:26,908 I dropped out of normal society, 588 00:40:26,992 --> 00:40:30,286 left home, left school and ran off with this rock and roll band, 589 00:40:30,371 --> 00:40:32,163 chasing the muse, chasing the music. 590 00:40:38,587 --> 00:40:40,506 They're the best fans any band has ever had. 591 00:40:40,589 --> 00:40:44,468 I mean, there's never been a band that has attracted the same sort of 592 00:40:44,551 --> 00:40:48,347 devotion on so many different kinds of levels. 593 00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:52,017 There are people who will... 594 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,894 who can actually sit there and tell you the difference 595 00:40:53,977 --> 00:40:57,398 between the "Scarlet/Fire" at 5/8 '77 596 00:40:57,481 --> 00:40:59,441 and the one they played three nights later at 5/11 597 00:40:59,525 --> 00:41:02,528 and the one two nights later at 5/13. 598 00:41:02,611 --> 00:41:04,988 - Gotta see what's happening. - There's never been two shows alike, ever. 599 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,281 Ever! 600 00:41:06,365 --> 00:41:07,949 The Deadheads have a certain sense of adventure. 601 00:41:08,033 --> 00:41:10,661 And it's tough to come by adventure in America nowadays. 602 00:41:10,744 --> 00:41:13,038 You know what I mean? It's a little uptight and everything like that. 603 00:41:13,121 --> 00:41:15,499 They are people who are strong enough to seek adventure 604 00:41:15,582 --> 00:41:18,877 in this new, lame America. 605 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,548 ♪ I need a woman 'bout twice my weight ♪ 606 00:41:22,631 --> 00:41:26,342 ♪ A ton of fun who packs a gun with all her other freight ♪ 607 00:41:26,427 --> 00:41:29,930 ♪ Find her in a sideshow Gonna leave her in LA ♪ 608 00:41:30,013 --> 00:41:32,808 ♪ Ride her like a surfer running on a tidal wave ♪ 609 00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:37,270 When it was flowing and we were one with the music and one with the audience... 610 00:41:39,355 --> 00:41:41,066 ♪ And hell! ♪ 611 00:41:41,149 --> 00:41:44,736 ♪ One more thing I just got to say ♪ 612 00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:47,781 ♪ I need a miracle every day ♪ 613 00:41:47,864 --> 00:41:48,907 ...it was undeniable. 614 00:42:00,376 --> 00:42:03,296 ♪ Went down to the mountain I was drinking some wine ♪ 615 00:42:03,379 --> 00:42:05,882 ♪ Looked up in the heavens Lord, I saw a mighty sign ♪ 616 00:42:05,966 --> 00:42:08,552 ♪ Written fire across the heaven Plain in black and white ♪ 617 00:42:08,635 --> 00:42:11,597 ♪ Get prepared There's gonna be a party tonight ♪ 618 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,681 ♪ Uh-huh ♪ 619 00:42:13,974 --> 00:42:15,141 Everybody had girlfriends. 620 00:42:15,225 --> 00:42:18,645 Pigpen had a steady girlfriend, Phil had a steady girlfriend. 621 00:42:18,729 --> 00:42:21,022 Bobby didn't really have steady girlfriends. 622 00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:22,398 He had lots of girlfriends. 623 00:42:22,483 --> 00:42:23,984 ♪ Hey! It's Saturday night ♪ 624 00:42:25,193 --> 00:42:26,570 He was the best looking guy in the band. 625 00:42:26,653 --> 00:42:28,822 Come on, what are you gonna do? 626 00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:31,992 ♪ Everybody's dancin' down the local armory ♪ 627 00:42:32,075 --> 00:42:35,286 ♪ With a basement full of dynamite and live artillery ♪ 628 00:42:35,370 --> 00:42:38,164 Bob Weir was the handsomest guy in the Dead, okay? 629 00:42:38,248 --> 00:42:41,334 I've been that guy in other bands before. I know what it's like. 630 00:42:43,253 --> 00:42:44,838 ♪ Hey! It's Saturday night ♪ 631 00:42:46,172 --> 00:42:48,091 ♪ Yeah, uh-huh ♪ 632 00:42:48,174 --> 00:42:49,885 ♪ One more Saturday night ♪ 633 00:42:50,969 --> 00:42:52,554 ♪ Ow! Saturday night ♪ 634 00:42:52,638 --> 00:42:56,600 Jerry always said that they needed one good looking guy in the band 635 00:42:56,683 --> 00:42:59,936 to catch the ladies, and that's why they put up with Weir's shit. 636 00:43:00,020 --> 00:43:01,271 The band loved him 637 00:43:01,354 --> 00:43:04,065 because A, he was really cute and drew the girls. 638 00:43:04,149 --> 00:43:05,316 And then the biggest part, 639 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,780 the most important part is he was game for it all. 640 00:43:20,541 --> 00:43:23,459 Here's beautiful Bobby surrounded by the ugly brothers. 641 00:43:23,544 --> 00:43:24,711 You know? 642 00:43:24,795 --> 00:43:28,131 I mean, if you're gonna go to bed with somebody from the band, 643 00:43:28,214 --> 00:43:29,716 is it gonna be Pigpen? 644 00:43:32,636 --> 00:43:35,597 Bob had the "party room" all wired. 645 00:43:35,681 --> 00:43:39,726 He had a big boom box made. Too big to get into the room. 646 00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:41,937 So he had to split it in half to get it in there. 647 00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:45,607 And then, after the show, you know, the quippies man the door, you know. 648 00:43:45,691 --> 00:43:48,068 "No guys. Just gals." 649 00:43:48,151 --> 00:43:52,030 And so we all used to take Bob's run off. 650 00:43:52,113 --> 00:43:54,032 So I guess I got a reputation as being 651 00:43:54,115 --> 00:43:55,951 kind of the heartthrob of the Grateful Dead. 652 00:43:56,702 --> 00:43:59,830 So after the show, if there were folks backstage, 653 00:43:59,913 --> 00:44:02,498 the girls were gonna come my way mostly. 654 00:44:02,583 --> 00:44:04,500 And they did. 655 00:44:04,585 --> 00:44:06,712 And... 656 00:44:06,795 --> 00:44:11,507 What, am I gonna complain about that? 657 00:44:11,592 --> 00:44:13,259 I got to shop around a bunch. 658 00:44:13,343 --> 00:44:16,972 The first time I met Bob, I was in 10th grade. 659 00:44:17,055 --> 00:44:19,307 My girlfriend at the end of the show, 660 00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:23,562 she said, "I'm gonna get us backstage," and I really didn't believe her, but I... 661 00:44:23,645 --> 00:44:26,272 She grabbed my hand and ran me through the crowd 662 00:44:26,356 --> 00:44:29,610 and then Lin said, "Hi, we're here to meet Bob Weir." 663 00:44:29,693 --> 00:44:33,154 And then, a minute later, he was walking over. 664 00:44:33,238 --> 00:44:38,159 They were 15 at the time. So, you know, "Okay, I'm... You know..." 665 00:44:38,243 --> 00:44:39,703 But they were a lot of fun. 666 00:44:39,786 --> 00:44:43,414 We began a friendship and then we remained friends. 667 00:44:43,498 --> 00:44:48,503 I used to see him on the road and I would sleep in the parlor, 668 00:44:48,587 --> 00:44:52,298 but then he would have, like, a woman in there or women. 669 00:44:52,382 --> 00:44:55,761 I would wake up and then suddenly there's lingerie in the bathroom. 670 00:45:17,448 --> 00:45:20,869 The only kind of plans we ever made were, like, going to Egypt 671 00:45:20,952 --> 00:45:22,078 and playing under the Pyramids. 672 00:45:22,162 --> 00:45:24,122 Those are the only kind of plans we ever started out with. 673 00:45:24,205 --> 00:45:25,248 And we actually got around to it. 674 00:45:25,331 --> 00:45:26,624 - Some of 'em. - It was in 1978. 675 00:45:26,708 --> 00:45:27,751 Yeah. 676 00:45:33,256 --> 00:45:35,842 Egypt was a hell of an adventure. 677 00:45:38,929 --> 00:45:41,890 I felt the weight of the antiquity. 678 00:45:43,767 --> 00:45:48,730 Time went away. Future, past, all of it was right here. 679 00:45:51,399 --> 00:45:54,569 We played at the Son Et Lumiere Theater, 680 00:45:54,652 --> 00:45:57,989 an ancient, ancient amphitheater. 681 00:45:58,073 --> 00:46:00,951 When the pyramid was lined up with the Sphinx, 682 00:46:01,034 --> 00:46:04,204 I would hear echoes in the sound that seemed to go 683 00:46:04,287 --> 00:46:07,248 far beyond this place and time. 684 00:46:08,709 --> 00:46:10,961 At dusk, the mosquitoes come out. 685 00:46:12,337 --> 00:46:16,257 And I looked at my arm, it was covered with mosquitoes, 686 00:46:16,341 --> 00:46:19,135 and I'm thinking, "Okay, welcome to hell." 687 00:46:21,262 --> 00:46:23,473 And then something flies by my face. 688 00:46:24,515 --> 00:46:25,683 It was a bat. 689 00:46:27,143 --> 00:46:31,564 I look across the stage, and the stage is swarmed with bats. 690 00:46:31,647 --> 00:46:35,276 And they're taking out the mosquitoes. They're saving our asses. 691 00:46:37,028 --> 00:46:41,992 It was a rock and roll band on a thousands of year old stage 692 00:46:42,075 --> 00:46:46,121 at the foot of the Great Pyramid surrounded by a cloud of bats. 693 00:46:47,413 --> 00:46:52,710 And I think to myself, "Take me now, Lord. I want to remember it just like this." 694 00:47:46,097 --> 00:47:49,350 I can't believe that you both started together, because you look... 695 00:47:49,434 --> 00:47:51,769 - Forgive me-- - Well, I'm older than him. 696 00:47:51,853 --> 00:47:52,938 Oh, oh! 697 00:47:53,021 --> 00:47:55,231 I thought, maybe you both started out the same age 698 00:47:55,315 --> 00:47:58,443 and somehow you'd progressed a little bit more rapidly than the rest of us. 699 00:47:58,526 --> 00:48:00,403 I put more time in the years than he did. 700 00:48:00,486 --> 00:48:03,865 Remember back in the '60s when all the parents were afraid 701 00:48:03,949 --> 00:48:06,367 that the kinds of music their children were listening to 702 00:48:06,451 --> 00:48:07,577 would somehow corrupt them 703 00:48:07,660 --> 00:48:11,372 and make them forevermore not worthy of living in the American society? 704 00:48:11,456 --> 00:48:14,000 What was going through those people's minds at the time? 705 00:48:15,210 --> 00:48:16,669 Hard to tell. 706 00:48:16,752 --> 00:48:21,007 Phil and I had to make a long speech to Weir's mother back then 707 00:48:21,091 --> 00:48:23,593 because Bob was dropping out of high school 708 00:48:23,676 --> 00:48:25,971 to play rock and roll, you know. We had to make sure-- 709 00:48:26,054 --> 00:48:28,348 We had to assure her that everything was gonna be okay, you know. 710 00:48:28,431 --> 00:48:31,559 I knew something was fishy when I came over to his house for practice one day, 711 00:48:31,642 --> 00:48:35,313 and there were Phil and Garcia sitting there like the cat that ate the canary. 712 00:48:35,396 --> 00:48:38,649 "Finish school, Bobby." 713 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,600 What changes do you see in what you've done over the years? 714 00:48:46,616 --> 00:48:51,412 And how have you managed to be evolutionary and stay current? 715 00:48:51,496 --> 00:48:53,831 - I don't think we've stayed current. - You don't? 716 00:48:53,915 --> 00:48:55,208 I don't think we ever were current. 717 00:48:55,291 --> 00:48:58,044 Yeah, right. That's probably closer to the truth. 718 00:48:58,128 --> 00:48:59,545 Yeah, we never were current, I don't think... 719 00:48:59,629 --> 00:49:03,549 I think we've been sort of singular in our whole endeavor. 720 00:49:03,633 --> 00:49:05,510 And probably stay that way. 721 00:49:05,593 --> 00:49:10,181 I mean, all we try to do is just satisfy our own standards. 722 00:49:10,265 --> 00:49:12,683 - And they're pretty steep. - Mmm-hmm. 723 00:49:23,069 --> 00:49:24,070 Get on out of here! 724 00:49:24,154 --> 00:49:27,490 Oh, the video simulcast. It's a video simulcast. Yes. 725 00:49:27,573 --> 00:49:29,284 The video simulcast on Halloween. 726 00:49:29,367 --> 00:49:33,413 - It's gonna be very scary. - Right on. 727 00:49:33,496 --> 00:49:35,496 - So, you know what I mean? - I mean, it's Halloween. 728 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,001 I mean, if you have the guts to come to the video simulcast, 729 00:49:38,084 --> 00:49:40,644 come on to the simulcast. But I really don't think you can do it. 730 00:49:40,711 --> 00:49:43,048 ♪ Friend come by Say he's looking for his hat ♪ 731 00:49:43,131 --> 00:49:44,174 ♪ Yes ♪ 732 00:49:44,257 --> 00:49:47,427 ♪ Wants to know where your husband's at ♪ ♪ Buddy ♪ 733 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:50,638 ♪ I don't know He's on his way to the pen ♪ 734 00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:53,849 ♪ But come on, pretty mama Let's get on the road again ♪ 735 00:49:53,934 --> 00:49:57,645 ♪ On the road again Sure as you're born ♪ 736 00:49:57,728 --> 00:50:00,606 ♪ Natural born easement on the road again ♪ 737 00:50:00,690 --> 00:50:04,527 ♪ On the road again Sure as you're born ♪ 738 00:50:11,034 --> 00:50:13,786 ♪ I went to my house My front door was locked ♪ 739 00:50:13,869 --> 00:50:14,870 ♪ Yeah ♪ 740 00:50:14,955 --> 00:50:18,124 ♪ Went 'round to my window But my window was locked ♪ 741 00:50:18,208 --> 00:50:21,544 ♪ Jumped right back I shook my head ♪ 742 00:50:21,627 --> 00:50:24,922 ♪ Big old rounder in my folding bed ♪ 743 00:50:25,006 --> 00:50:28,384 ♪ Shot near the window Broke the glass ♪ 744 00:50:28,468 --> 00:50:31,221 ♪ Never seen that little rounder run so fast ♪ 745 00:50:31,304 --> 00:50:35,266 ♪ He's on the road again Sure as you're born ♪ 746 00:50:35,350 --> 00:50:38,394 ♪ Natural born easement on the road again ♪ 747 00:50:38,478 --> 00:50:42,232 ♪ On the road again Sure as you're born ♪ 748 00:51:03,211 --> 00:51:07,007 The late '80s, the whole situation changed a lot. 749 00:51:07,090 --> 00:51:09,842 The "Touch of Grey" album came out, they got really big. 750 00:51:09,925 --> 00:51:12,887 And I think the dynamic changed. 751 00:51:14,889 --> 00:51:17,850 In the late '80s, Grateful Dead shows became a destination. 752 00:51:18,893 --> 00:51:21,146 "Touch of Grey" was their first hit single 753 00:51:21,229 --> 00:51:23,148 and this assault on the mainstream 754 00:51:23,231 --> 00:51:25,316 that was unthinkable in the Grateful Dead world. 755 00:51:25,816 --> 00:51:27,610 ♪ Must be getting early ♪ 756 00:51:28,861 --> 00:51:29,941 ♪ Clocks are running late ♪ 757 00:51:31,822 --> 00:51:34,450 ♪ Faint light of the morning sky ♪ 758 00:51:35,035 --> 00:51:36,661 ♪ Looks so phony ♪ 759 00:51:38,371 --> 00:51:40,790 ♪ Dawn is breaking everywhere ♪ 760 00:51:40,873 --> 00:51:43,709 ♪ Light a candle Curse the glare ♪ 761 00:51:43,793 --> 00:51:47,213 ♪ Draw the curtains I don't care 'cause ♪ 762 00:51:47,297 --> 00:51:48,673 ♪ It's all right ♪ 763 00:51:50,007 --> 00:51:52,885 ♪ I will get by ♪ 764 00:51:56,472 --> 00:51:59,142 ♪ I will get by ♪ 765 00:52:02,478 --> 00:52:06,107 ♪ I will get by ♪ 766 00:52:06,191 --> 00:52:07,692 ♪ I will survive ♪ 767 00:52:07,775 --> 00:52:10,320 The crushing part of fame is just boring. 768 00:52:10,403 --> 00:52:13,698 Being famous is boring, and it's confining. 769 00:52:13,781 --> 00:52:17,577 We were kind of hoping to be successful on our own terms 770 00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:19,787 and maybe sidestep fame. 771 00:52:19,870 --> 00:52:25,460 ♪ Whistle through your teeth and spit 'cause it's all right ♪ 772 00:52:25,543 --> 00:52:28,796 We hit a peak of popularity in the late '80s. 773 00:52:28,879 --> 00:52:33,259 It had gotten to the point where it was hard to walk down the street 774 00:52:33,343 --> 00:52:34,903 without getting just mobbed, basically. 775 00:52:34,969 --> 00:52:39,432 We had a hit single and a video that was played a lot. 776 00:52:39,515 --> 00:52:42,727 Jerry was singing the song, and he was good on camera, 777 00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:45,438 and he was evocative on camera. 778 00:52:45,521 --> 00:52:50,318 That brought a focus to Jerry that we hadn't seen before. 779 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,454 - Yeah, Jerry's God, man. - Yeah! 780 00:53:01,537 --> 00:53:04,207 It gives you something to look forward to, you know. 781 00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:08,002 There was a cult of people and they deified Jerry. 782 00:53:09,129 --> 00:53:11,756 The temptation, I guess, or the tendency was there 783 00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:15,218 to equate it with religion or something like that, which it isn't. 784 00:53:15,301 --> 00:53:17,387 It's just music. It's just art. 785 00:53:17,470 --> 00:53:20,055 We weren't high priests or anything like that. 786 00:53:20,140 --> 00:53:25,145 And to have that thrust on Jerry, for instance, it was unsettling to him. 787 00:53:25,228 --> 00:53:28,689 It's a weird thing to try and understand what it must be like 788 00:53:28,773 --> 00:53:32,193 for someone like Jerry to be in the position 789 00:53:32,277 --> 00:53:35,029 to have all these people deify him. 790 00:53:35,112 --> 00:53:39,116 He was a great, mellow, you know, humble guy. 791 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,205 The stress of being someone so idolized like Jerry... 792 00:53:45,498 --> 00:53:50,044 It's a big burden for anyone to have to be that person, I think. 793 00:53:51,504 --> 00:53:55,090 We had a gig, as I remember, at RFK Stadium. 794 00:53:57,302 --> 00:53:59,262 We played with Dylan and it was hot. 795 00:53:59,345 --> 00:54:03,808 108 degrees or something, and humid. 796 00:54:03,891 --> 00:54:07,937 And Jerry wasn't real good with hot weather to begin with. 797 00:54:08,020 --> 00:54:13,609 We went home and, uh... a couple of days later, he was in a coma. 798 00:54:18,406 --> 00:54:20,825 You know, Jerry once told me that heroin 799 00:54:20,908 --> 00:54:24,704 takes all your troubles, all your concerns, all your worries, 800 00:54:24,787 --> 00:54:27,957 and ties them neatly together into one little, tiny little package. 801 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,209 "Where's my next hit?" 802 00:54:29,292 --> 00:54:33,754 You don't think about diet, you don't think about exercise. 803 00:54:33,838 --> 00:54:36,090 He was grossly overweight, 804 00:54:36,173 --> 00:54:40,803 and I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that he had a cholesterol situation 805 00:54:40,886 --> 00:54:44,265 that you wouldn't wish on a mad dog. 806 00:54:46,058 --> 00:54:48,185 While he was in the coma, 807 00:54:48,269 --> 00:54:51,021 he couldn't be taking drugs and they didn't give them to him. 808 00:54:51,105 --> 00:54:53,649 And so by the time he came out, he was cleaned up, 809 00:54:53,733 --> 00:54:55,401 and he stayed that way for a couple of years. 810 00:54:55,485 --> 00:54:58,654 And he was a lot of fun when he was straight. 811 00:54:58,738 --> 00:55:00,740 Those were the funnest times we had together 812 00:55:00,823 --> 00:55:03,618 since we were much, much younger. 813 00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:44,784 - It's your verse, man. - No, it's your verse. 814 00:55:44,867 --> 00:55:46,952 - You didn't do "She never stumbles." - You come in after. 815 00:55:47,036 --> 00:55:49,622 - Oh, that's true. - No, you didn't do "She never stumbles." 816 00:55:49,705 --> 00:55:50,956 It's true, you didn't do "She never stumbles." 817 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,333 We only did two verses before the instrumental. 818 00:55:52,417 --> 00:55:53,793 Yeah, you did two verses. I did the second one 819 00:55:53,876 --> 00:55:55,210 - and then you did the instrumental. - Oh, right. 820 00:55:55,295 --> 00:55:57,171 You used to do the third verse, then we did the instrumental. 821 00:55:57,254 --> 00:56:01,509 - We'll have to do this perhaps again. - Okay. Keep rolling. 822 00:56:01,592 --> 00:56:02,968 Keep on rolling. 823 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:08,098 Yeah, well, here we go. Let's see. 824 00:56:08,182 --> 00:56:10,810 Bob. Bob. 825 00:56:12,061 --> 00:56:14,181 What are you looking at, man? What are you looking at? 826 00:56:30,955 --> 00:56:32,206 The chances are 827 00:56:32,289 --> 00:56:35,376 I spent more time standing on stage playing guitar and singing 828 00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:39,672 than any human that ever lived. 829 00:56:46,596 --> 00:56:51,434 How many shows did the Grateful Dead play? 830 00:56:51,517 --> 00:56:52,977 Something like 3,000, 831 00:56:53,060 --> 00:56:55,855 and then you at least double that. 832 00:56:57,064 --> 00:56:59,734 It's a lot of time singing and playing guitar. 833 00:57:01,402 --> 00:57:05,615 ♪ We can share the women We can share the wine ♪ 834 00:57:09,201 --> 00:57:12,329 ♪ We can share what we got of yours ♪ 835 00:57:12,413 --> 00:57:17,835 ♪ 'Cause we done shared all of mine ♪ 836 00:57:20,755 --> 00:57:22,131 Night after night on stage, 837 00:57:22,214 --> 00:57:27,470 I spent a lot of time thinking about my life and my adoptive parents. 838 00:57:27,553 --> 00:57:30,765 They were proud of me by the time they wrapped it up. 839 00:57:30,848 --> 00:57:32,307 And they were real happy. 840 00:57:32,392 --> 00:57:35,478 And I loved them and they loved me, and I knew that. 841 00:57:35,561 --> 00:57:38,022 But for adopted kids, 842 00:57:38,105 --> 00:57:40,983 you're always gonna wanna know where you come from. 843 00:57:41,066 --> 00:57:45,363 So I finally hired a private eye to look into my birth. 844 00:57:45,446 --> 00:57:48,449 But the private eye guy could get nowhere with it. 845 00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:50,743 And so I didn't think I was gonna get anywhere. 846 00:57:52,995 --> 00:57:55,415 ♪ Jack Straw from Whichita ♪ 847 00:57:55,498 --> 00:57:57,917 ♪ Cut his buddy down ♪ 848 00:58:00,711 --> 00:58:05,049 ♪ Dug for him a shallow grave And lay his body down ♪ 849 00:58:08,761 --> 00:58:13,015 ♪ A half a mile from Tucson By the morning light ♪ 850 00:58:16,394 --> 00:58:20,272 ♪ There's one man gone and another to go ♪ 851 00:58:20,355 --> 00:58:26,320 ♪ My old buddy You're moving much too slow ♪ 852 00:58:38,373 --> 00:58:44,296 ♪ We can share the women We can share the wine ♪ 853 00:58:56,892 --> 00:58:58,603 On Sunday in Indianapolis, 854 00:58:58,686 --> 00:59:00,646 a Grateful Dead concert had to be canceled. 855 00:59:00,730 --> 00:59:04,191 As many as 4,000 people stormed gates behind the stage 856 00:59:04,274 --> 00:59:06,110 and later threw rocks and bottles at police. 857 00:59:06,193 --> 00:59:08,613 Hundreds of Grateful Dead fans 858 00:59:08,696 --> 00:59:11,323 tried to push their way into a concert in Orlando last night. 859 00:59:11,406 --> 00:59:13,493 Police lobbed tear gas and pepper gas. 860 00:59:13,576 --> 00:59:17,705 In the early '90s, there was so much crowd control difficulty at our gigs. 861 00:59:17,788 --> 00:59:18,956 People crashing gates 862 00:59:19,039 --> 00:59:23,168 and there were so many people getting hurt, and that kind of thing. 863 00:59:23,252 --> 00:59:24,879 It got to be a bit much. 864 00:59:24,962 --> 00:59:27,214 Big problems with the Grateful Dead. 865 00:59:27,297 --> 00:59:29,133 Two deaths from apparent drug overdoses. 866 00:59:29,216 --> 00:59:30,425 It's dirtier. 867 00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:33,721 People are grosser and they're much younger than I ever remember. 868 00:59:33,804 --> 00:59:34,847 And much higher. 869 00:59:34,930 --> 00:59:36,807 People weren't going to the shows for music, 870 00:59:36,891 --> 00:59:40,478 they were going to the shows as... just to party down 871 00:59:40,561 --> 00:59:43,898 and to get as wasted as they could. 872 00:59:43,981 --> 00:59:47,860 And this was not exactly what we were all about. 873 00:59:47,943 --> 00:59:52,865 But be that as it may, that's what we kind of got pegged with. 874 00:59:52,948 --> 00:59:57,161 Most of the real true Deadheads weren't that way. 875 00:59:57,244 --> 00:59:59,454 They went for the music. 876 00:59:59,539 --> 01:00:03,834 The Dead, well, their music is a form of communication 877 01:00:03,918 --> 01:00:06,253 of the highest of the ideals of the '60s, 878 01:00:06,336 --> 01:00:09,965 which is peace, joy, bringing people together. 879 01:00:10,049 --> 01:00:15,304 But the whole thing, it's the concert, it's the party, it's the band. 880 01:00:15,387 --> 01:00:17,264 I don't know. And you can't really describe it. 881 01:00:17,347 --> 01:00:19,787 It's just a feeling you get when you're with all these people. 882 01:00:19,809 --> 01:00:22,102 What do I do once I'm in there? I dance. We all dance. 883 01:00:22,186 --> 01:00:24,647 - Yeah! - We all dance. 884 01:00:24,730 --> 01:00:30,235 If they can make it work making falafels, 885 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:32,112 or tie-dyes in the parking lot, 886 01:00:32,196 --> 01:00:35,074 so that they can get into the shows 887 01:00:35,908 --> 01:00:40,204 and squirrel enough away so that they can live between tours... 888 01:00:40,287 --> 01:00:43,457 You know, if it rings those lofty bells for them... 889 01:00:44,083 --> 01:00:46,126 uh, what's wrong with that? 890 01:00:47,712 --> 01:00:52,007 At the same time, if it takes your life down, 891 01:00:52,091 --> 01:00:55,928 then that's another story. 892 01:00:56,011 --> 01:01:00,725 So that's a double-edged sword. It's a pretty iffy thing to be doing. 893 01:01:00,808 --> 01:01:05,187 If you're a kid and you wanna spend a summer on the road, 894 01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:06,897 that's one thing. 895 01:01:06,981 --> 01:01:12,027 If you're gonna cast your lot there, I hope you have the talent to do it. 896 01:01:13,195 --> 01:01:17,116 If you're selling drugs, I have limited sympathy. 897 01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:19,159 And the rest of those folks... 898 01:01:21,036 --> 01:01:24,248 if they're making it work, my hat's off. 899 01:01:25,625 --> 01:01:26,917 And throughout the '70s and the '80s, 900 01:01:27,001 --> 01:01:29,754 the Dead still played by their own rules in creating 901 01:01:29,837 --> 01:01:32,256 influential fusions of rock, and blues, and country 902 01:01:32,339 --> 01:01:35,968 on such classical albums as Workingman's Dead and American Beauty. 903 01:01:36,051 --> 01:01:37,511 To induct the Grateful Dead, 904 01:01:37,595 --> 01:01:40,640 their sometime partner, their fulltime fan, Bruce Hornsby. 905 01:01:40,723 --> 01:01:44,018 - Yeah! Bruie! Yeah! - Bru! Bru! 906 01:01:44,101 --> 01:01:45,936 - Bruce! - Bru! 907 01:01:48,313 --> 01:01:51,275 You know, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I don't know what to make of it. 908 01:01:51,358 --> 01:01:53,152 I'm innocent. You're hanging an innocent man. 909 01:01:53,235 --> 01:01:55,738 You're hanging an innocent man! 910 01:01:55,821 --> 01:01:57,990 It's nice to be a Hall of Famer and all that, 911 01:01:58,073 --> 01:02:00,242 but still, you know, 912 01:02:00,325 --> 01:02:03,495 it wasn't a goal of mine or anything like that when I started playing. 913 01:02:03,578 --> 01:02:06,248 As the bumper stickers have proclaimed for over 20 years, 914 01:02:06,331 --> 01:02:08,751 there is really nothing like a Grateful Dead concert. 915 01:02:10,127 --> 01:02:11,420 And frankly, I don't understand 916 01:02:11,503 --> 01:02:14,840 why they didn't get into this thing last year. 917 01:02:14,924 --> 01:02:16,926 Everybody but Jerry went to that event. 918 01:02:17,009 --> 01:02:18,636 Jerry wasn't in great shape 919 01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:21,764 and he didn't like the idea of the cult of personality. 920 01:02:21,847 --> 01:02:23,767 Ladies and gentlemen, here's to the Grateful Dead 921 01:02:23,808 --> 01:02:26,060 and another 28 years. Thanks a lot. 922 01:02:27,061 --> 01:02:31,065 I think he associated the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Awards with that. 923 01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:37,655 He was having some... some issues with his health. 924 01:02:37,738 --> 01:02:42,534 Somewhere in the early '90s, he got back into the heroin. 925 01:02:43,703 --> 01:02:47,289 I do remember vaguely thinking to myself, 926 01:02:47,372 --> 01:02:51,210 "Well, we've seen this before. Well, maybe he'll snap out of it." 927 01:02:52,169 --> 01:02:57,549 But something told me, "Nah, we're in for another long row to hoe." 928 01:02:57,632 --> 01:02:59,802 For a while, actually, I was his bagman. 929 01:02:59,885 --> 01:03:02,054 I carried his dope around for him, 930 01:03:02,137 --> 01:03:05,933 'cause number one, he knew that I wasn't gonna get into it. 931 01:03:06,016 --> 01:03:08,686 And then secondly, he knew that I was gonna be-- 932 01:03:08,769 --> 01:03:11,772 I wasn't gonna give him more than he had told me to. 933 01:03:11,856 --> 01:03:16,902 And he trusted me to do that, so I was his bagman. 934 01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:21,699 There were a couple of times 935 01:03:21,782 --> 01:03:23,533 when the guys in the band got together and said, 936 01:03:23,617 --> 01:03:25,953 "Okay, we're gonna do an intervention with Jerry. 937 01:03:26,036 --> 01:03:29,790 We're gonna go and tell him that he's got to clean up." 938 01:03:29,874 --> 01:03:32,918 We figured out very quickly that that wasn't gonna work. 939 01:03:33,002 --> 01:03:35,921 We just sort of accepted him for who he was 940 01:03:36,005 --> 01:03:39,466 and what he amounted to on a given day. 941 01:03:39,549 --> 01:03:42,720 As his friend, as his bro, I just tried to keep him happy. 942 01:03:42,803 --> 01:03:45,430 If I could support him doing something 943 01:03:45,514 --> 01:03:49,518 that I thought was a healthier, a good kind of thing to do, 944 01:03:49,601 --> 01:03:52,687 I'd support that. 945 01:03:52,772 --> 01:03:57,692 We took a yoga instructor with us on the road for a couple of years, 946 01:03:57,777 --> 01:04:01,071 and Jerry took a couple of classes with him, but we never saw that. 947 01:04:01,155 --> 01:04:03,741 He wasn't about to do that around any of us. 948 01:04:03,824 --> 01:04:08,453 I think Bobby was probably the most influential right there, 949 01:04:08,537 --> 01:04:13,417 as in, helping Jerry to find a healthier lifestyle, 950 01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:16,711 because I think Bobby was already really into that kind of thing. 951 01:04:16,796 --> 01:04:19,924 He was doing yoga and eating right, 952 01:04:20,007 --> 01:04:22,592 and spiritually sound, too. 953 01:04:23,218 --> 01:04:25,679 And Bobby wanted Jerry to be happy and healthy. 954 01:04:25,763 --> 01:04:27,973 It was important to him that that happened. 955 01:04:28,057 --> 01:04:31,393 So he-- I know he tried really hard. 956 01:04:31,476 --> 01:04:36,398 He was just so goddamn famous that he couldn't go out on the streets. 957 01:04:36,481 --> 01:04:40,110 What are you gonna do? You gotta hide from it someway. 958 01:04:40,194 --> 01:04:42,947 And drugs were a convenient way to do that. 959 01:04:44,198 --> 01:04:47,201 He wasn't God. He wasn't there to pontificate. 960 01:04:47,284 --> 01:04:49,870 He was just there to play and chase the music, 961 01:04:49,954 --> 01:04:52,081 and chase the adventure, and be a kid. 962 01:04:52,164 --> 01:04:55,084 That's all he wanted to do. 963 01:04:55,167 --> 01:04:56,919 I remember a conversation with Garcia one time. 964 01:04:57,002 --> 01:05:01,465 I said, "I'm not sure that Weir's well equipped to handle celebrity." 965 01:05:01,548 --> 01:05:03,758 And he said, "Nobody is." 966 01:05:06,553 --> 01:05:07,805 "Nobody." 967 01:05:15,562 --> 01:05:18,440 Jerry and I used to take vacations together. 968 01:05:21,944 --> 01:05:25,364 We'd get a couple houses in Kauai and live it up. 969 01:05:29,827 --> 01:05:32,371 In later years, Jerry took up diving 970 01:05:32,454 --> 01:05:36,041 and informed me I was signed up for scuba instruction. 971 01:05:42,381 --> 01:05:45,009 I'll be forever in his debt for doing that. 972 01:05:53,725 --> 01:05:55,810 Jerry was a big guy 973 01:05:55,895 --> 01:06:01,358 and deal was, when Jerry was underwater, he was weightless. 974 01:06:15,497 --> 01:06:17,666 This one time, he goes up to this hole. 975 01:06:17,749 --> 01:06:21,711 This big, broad, flat fish face comes out. 976 01:06:21,795 --> 01:06:24,714 This is not a fish, this is a great big eel. 977 01:06:24,798 --> 01:06:28,093 Fish comes a little further out and Jerry goes like this, 978 01:06:28,177 --> 01:06:30,137 and he starts stroking him under the chin. 979 01:06:38,728 --> 01:06:42,357 We used a tank of air in, like, half the time, just laughing. 980 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,530 We had a lot of fun underwater. 981 01:07:23,773 --> 01:07:26,401 I had a dream. 982 01:07:26,485 --> 01:07:31,281 In the dream, I found a can of invisible paint. 983 01:07:31,365 --> 01:07:36,996 So I painted myself with the invisible paint. 984 01:07:37,079 --> 01:07:41,000 And then Jerry came into the dream. And Jerry was looking pretty swell. 985 01:07:41,083 --> 01:07:45,004 He was in Castilian splendor, he was tall. 986 01:07:45,087 --> 01:07:48,298 His hair was all black and kind of combed back, 987 01:07:48,382 --> 01:07:54,096 and he had a velour cape on with a silver clasp on it. 988 01:07:54,179 --> 01:07:57,057 And he looked me square in the eye, and I was saying, 989 01:07:57,141 --> 01:07:59,059 "Hey, Jerry, check it out. Invisible paint." 990 01:07:59,143 --> 01:08:01,936 And he wasn't interested. 991 01:08:02,021 --> 01:08:07,109 He was intent on something. He was searching for something. 992 01:08:10,237 --> 01:08:12,197 And then he was gone. 993 01:08:14,824 --> 01:08:17,036 Jerry Garcia, the Grateful Dead guitarist, 994 01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:21,915 who kept the counter-culture of the 1960s rocking and rolling right into the '90s, 995 01:08:21,999 --> 01:08:24,793 died today in California. He was 53. 996 01:08:24,876 --> 01:08:27,754 Garcia was found dead at a drug rehabilitation center, 997 01:08:27,837 --> 01:08:29,798 reportedly of natural causes. 998 01:08:31,008 --> 01:08:36,846 ♪ Fare you well, my honey ♪ 999 01:08:40,642 --> 01:08:47,149 ♪ Fare you well, my only true one ♪ 1000 01:08:47,232 --> 01:08:48,317 The last time I saw him, 1001 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:53,822 it was on the back of the stage at Soldier's Field in Chicago. 1002 01:08:53,905 --> 01:08:55,324 And we were hugging after the show. 1003 01:08:55,407 --> 01:08:57,367 He was going one way and I was going the other, 1004 01:08:57,451 --> 01:09:01,746 and you know, he slapped me on the back 1005 01:09:01,830 --> 01:09:04,791 and said, "Always a hoot. Always a hoot." 1006 01:09:04,874 --> 01:09:07,044 Those were his last words to me. 1007 01:09:09,796 --> 01:09:13,592 I owe Jerry an immense debt of gratitude 1008 01:09:13,675 --> 01:09:17,096 for, you know, showing me 1009 01:09:17,179 --> 01:09:22,226 how to live with joy, with mischief. 1010 01:09:23,893 --> 01:09:25,812 Take your heart, take your faith... 1011 01:09:30,567 --> 01:09:33,737 and reflect back 1012 01:09:33,820 --> 01:09:37,031 some of the joy that he gave you. 1013 01:09:39,409 --> 01:09:43,413 He filled this world full of clouds of joy. 1014 01:09:43,497 --> 01:09:48,918 Just take a little bit of that... and reflect it back up to him. 1015 01:09:49,002 --> 01:09:52,339 ♪ Fare you well, fare you well ♪ 1016 01:09:52,422 --> 01:09:57,552 ♪ I love you more than words can tell ♪ 1017 01:09:57,636 --> 01:10:04,559 ♪ Listen to the river sing sweet songs to rock my soul ♪ 1018 01:10:06,603 --> 01:10:13,527 ♪ Listen to the river sing sweet songs to rock my soul ♪ 1019 01:10:15,195 --> 01:10:20,492 I think that when Jerry died, Bobby probably, um, felt... 1020 01:10:21,993 --> 01:10:25,455 Bobby probably felt a lot like Jerry's kids did. 1021 01:10:25,539 --> 01:10:29,793 Like, I think that Bobby probably felt like he lost a brother. 1022 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,049 Bob was very, very-- I mean, this was his closest friend. 1023 01:10:36,133 --> 01:10:39,219 This was, like, you know, a father, a brother to him, 1024 01:10:39,303 --> 01:10:41,555 and he was devastated. 1025 01:10:41,638 --> 01:10:45,850 I hadn't really thought about how he must have been feeling. 1026 01:10:45,934 --> 01:10:48,228 Still, it's tough. 1027 01:11:13,628 --> 01:11:17,090 After Jerry checked out, I went back out on tour with RatDog 1028 01:11:17,174 --> 01:11:19,133 and I pretty much stayed there for a while. 1029 01:11:19,218 --> 01:11:22,762 I think that was probably my grieving process. 1030 01:11:23,638 --> 01:11:26,516 What am I gonna do? Stay home and snivel, and kick furniture, 1031 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,061 or feel bad about it, and not play? 1032 01:11:30,144 --> 01:11:32,189 Jerry would have a fit. 1033 01:11:32,272 --> 01:11:34,608 Good music can make sad times better. 1034 01:11:34,691 --> 01:11:37,527 We've got our... 1035 01:11:37,611 --> 01:11:39,613 We've got our work cut out for us this evening, 1036 01:11:39,696 --> 01:11:42,073 so we'll just get started. 1037 01:11:42,156 --> 01:11:43,367 You know, I gotta go out and play. 1038 01:11:43,450 --> 01:11:45,619 I've gotta go out and make it better for people. 1039 01:11:53,918 --> 01:11:56,045 I'd stayed on the road for a while. 1040 01:11:56,129 --> 01:11:58,507 I had to do it for me, I had to do it for the folks, 1041 01:11:58,590 --> 01:11:59,799 I had to do it for Jerry. 1042 01:11:59,883 --> 01:12:02,386 You know, I had to do it because the music demanded it. 1043 01:12:06,765 --> 01:12:11,728 By the time I was edging towards 50, I was looking around and wondering now, 1044 01:12:11,811 --> 01:12:16,316 "Is it possible to be a rock and roll tomcat and do it gracefully?" 1045 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,610 And I looked around and I saw, like, Mick Jagger 1046 01:12:18,693 --> 01:12:23,657 and guys like that, and I gotta say... didn't look promising. 1047 01:12:24,991 --> 01:12:28,870 We remained friends forever and we still are. 1048 01:12:28,953 --> 01:12:31,623 Except we're married now with kids. 1049 01:12:32,291 --> 01:12:35,084 I remember Bob out on the porch one day at his house saying, 1050 01:12:35,168 --> 01:12:38,297 "You know, I think I'm in love." 1051 01:12:38,380 --> 01:12:41,758 You know, she was pretty, she was bright, she was a lot of fun. 1052 01:12:41,841 --> 01:12:45,637 This girl's a great catch, why don't we try this settling down thing? 1053 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,183 You know, he's really smart, fun. I think he's brilliant. 1054 01:12:50,809 --> 01:12:52,894 Natascha's a very loving individual. 1055 01:12:52,977 --> 01:12:55,314 The love he was feeling from her is something 1056 01:12:55,397 --> 01:12:58,149 that just probably filled a big void in him, too. 1057 01:12:58,232 --> 01:13:00,402 And then with the birth of Monet, 1058 01:13:00,485 --> 01:13:03,863 it was just mind-boggling for him to have that experience. 1059 01:13:03,947 --> 01:13:05,114 He was present at the birth. 1060 01:13:05,198 --> 01:13:08,076 And that feeling of being a father 1061 01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:11,705 and just the incredible miracle of creation. 1062 01:13:11,788 --> 01:13:16,960 Our lives changed dramatically after Monet and Chloe. 1063 01:13:17,043 --> 01:13:18,420 He did a 180. 1064 01:13:18,503 --> 01:13:21,381 Became dedicated father, family man. 1065 01:13:21,465 --> 01:13:23,383 And he has so much love for me. 1066 01:13:23,467 --> 01:13:25,009 He's dedicated to his family. 1067 01:13:25,093 --> 01:13:28,805 He's just so present when he's with you, 1068 01:13:28,888 --> 01:13:31,391 and that's what I love about him. 1069 01:13:31,475 --> 01:13:33,852 I feel lucky to have the family that I have, 1070 01:13:33,935 --> 01:13:38,106 and I feel lucky to have held off as long as I did, 1071 01:13:38,189 --> 01:13:41,234 until I was ready for it. 1072 01:13:44,779 --> 01:13:47,366 I got a phone call one morning from my office 1073 01:13:47,449 --> 01:13:51,453 and they said they had a lady on the phone by the name of Phyllis. 1074 01:13:51,536 --> 01:13:55,039 She had some information that I'd only seen on my birth certificate. 1075 01:13:55,123 --> 01:13:58,918 When I heard this, I realized that this has got to be my mother. 1076 01:13:59,586 --> 01:14:02,046 And then I went and met her the next day. 1077 01:14:02,130 --> 01:14:04,090 She had 12 other kids. 1078 01:14:04,173 --> 01:14:07,010 I didn't feel like I was a huge hole in her life 1079 01:14:07,093 --> 01:14:09,846 that I needed to rush right in and fill. 1080 01:14:09,929 --> 01:14:11,723 But we maintained a relationship. 1081 01:14:11,806 --> 01:14:17,854 And she, at one point, gave me some information on my biological dad. 1082 01:14:18,980 --> 01:14:21,608 I didn't wanna blow up his life 1083 01:14:21,691 --> 01:14:25,445 'cause he probably didn't know that I existed. 1084 01:14:25,529 --> 01:14:27,864 My curiosity finally got to me. 1085 01:14:29,157 --> 01:14:34,287 I got the phone call and I said, "Who's calling, please?" 1086 01:14:35,414 --> 01:14:39,000 And he said, "Robert Weir." 1087 01:14:39,083 --> 01:14:41,670 And, uh... 1088 01:14:41,753 --> 01:14:45,339 I said, "Okay. Doesn't mean anything to me." 1089 01:14:45,424 --> 01:14:47,175 So I said, "I've been doing some research" 1090 01:14:47,258 --> 01:14:48,802 and I've come up with some information 1091 01:14:48,885 --> 01:14:51,095 "that might be of considerable interest to you." 1092 01:14:51,179 --> 01:14:54,098 I went back to my son, Anthony, and I said, 1093 01:14:54,182 --> 01:14:57,185 "Should I know somebody named Bob Weir?" 1094 01:14:57,268 --> 01:14:58,395 He says, "I don't know." 1095 01:14:58,478 --> 01:15:02,356 The only one I know plays guitar for the Grateful Dead." 1096 01:15:02,441 --> 01:15:04,734 Then I asked him, "Did you know and 1097 01:15:04,818 --> 01:15:10,198 were you, perhaps, romantically involved with a young lady by the name of Phyllis?" 1098 01:15:10,281 --> 01:15:12,909 And there was a fairly long pause. 1099 01:15:12,992 --> 01:15:17,246 Actually, I think the blood left my head about that time. 1100 01:15:17,330 --> 01:15:21,585 And I said, "Well, sir, I don't know how many kids you have", 1101 01:15:21,668 --> 01:15:26,798 but there is a fairly strong likelihood that you have one more than you know." 1102 01:15:26,881 --> 01:15:29,342 And he said, "You're my father." 1103 01:15:36,307 --> 01:15:37,934 I mean, I was stunned. 1104 01:15:38,017 --> 01:15:40,520 We chatted for a while and then we met the next day. 1105 01:15:41,896 --> 01:15:46,485 We sat for about two hours together and talked. 1106 01:15:46,568 --> 01:15:48,570 At first, we were just sort of sniffing around, 1107 01:15:48,653 --> 01:15:52,866 but after a little bit, we got to like each other. 1108 01:15:52,949 --> 01:15:57,411 We didn't have to. There was no onus. 1109 01:15:57,496 --> 01:15:59,789 But we did. 1110 01:15:59,873 --> 01:16:04,669 I went away very proud to be his dad. 1111 01:16:04,753 --> 01:16:07,171 We grew very close. 1112 01:16:07,255 --> 01:16:10,509 He's my confidant, he's my brother, and now he's my dad. 1113 01:16:10,592 --> 01:16:14,303 Natascha's become a good friend of mine and my wife's, 1114 01:16:14,387 --> 01:16:17,223 and I'm very fond of the whole family. 1115 01:16:17,306 --> 01:16:19,308 We're very close. 1116 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,187 He had an empty space inside him 1117 01:16:23,271 --> 01:16:25,857 after Jerry died, and his dad came along. 1118 01:16:25,940 --> 01:16:29,318 Jack was the perfect guy to fill it. 1119 01:16:29,402 --> 01:16:32,572 Bobby has a great relationship with his dad 1120 01:16:32,656 --> 01:16:35,116 and I feel like they have done so much living together 1121 01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:39,538 and spending time together that, you know, they're really catching up on a lot. 1122 01:16:39,621 --> 01:16:42,541 I had a pretty complete existence. 1123 01:16:42,624 --> 01:16:44,918 Um, but it... 1124 01:16:45,001 --> 01:16:48,755 My existence got added on to, substantially, I'll say that. 1125 01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:21,746 ♪ There were days ♪ 1126 01:17:23,372 --> 01:17:26,500 ♪ There were days ♪ 1127 01:17:27,877 --> 01:17:32,048 ♪ There were days between ♪ 1128 01:17:32,131 --> 01:17:33,800 Jerry is an incredible legend, 1129 01:17:33,883 --> 01:17:36,595 but Bob is as much of a legend and he's still alive. 1130 01:17:36,678 --> 01:17:39,806 ♪ Polished like a golden bowl ♪ 1131 01:17:45,812 --> 01:17:47,897 ♪ The brightest ever seen ♪ 1132 01:17:47,981 --> 01:17:51,067 Bob knows music is a passageway to some greater part of the universe. 1133 01:17:51,150 --> 01:17:55,655 Why else would someone play 6,000 gigs in their life and keep going? 1134 01:17:55,739 --> 01:17:58,617 ♪ Hearts of summer held in trust ♪ 1135 01:18:03,454 --> 01:18:06,499 ♪ Still tender, young and green ♪ 1136 01:18:12,839 --> 01:18:16,843 ♪ Left on shelves collecting dust ♪ 1137 01:18:20,722 --> 01:18:24,475 ♪ Not knowing what they mean ♪ 1138 01:18:30,690 --> 01:18:34,694 ♪ Valentines of flesh and blood ♪ 1139 01:18:39,365 --> 01:18:42,368 ♪ Soft as velveteen ♪ 1140 01:18:47,999 --> 01:18:51,044 ♪ Hoping love would not forsake ♪ 1141 01:18:56,007 --> 01:18:59,552 ♪ The days that lie between ♪ 1142 01:19:02,013 --> 01:19:04,515 ♪ Lie between ♪ 1143 01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:19,363 I haven't put a lot of thought into my legacy. 1144 01:19:20,907 --> 01:19:23,117 I'm not proud of anything. 1145 01:19:24,661 --> 01:19:25,829 If I'm proud of something, 1146 01:19:25,912 --> 01:19:28,707 I have to take a good look at myself for being proud. 1147 01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:30,458 I don't trust pride. 1148 01:19:31,668 --> 01:19:34,045 But when you realize that we are all one, 1149 01:19:34,128 --> 01:19:40,134 you can be proud of being part of that gigantic entity that we all are. 1150 01:19:41,135 --> 01:19:43,012 Life has endless depth to it, 1151 01:19:43,096 --> 01:19:47,684 endless resonances and reverberances throughout time and space. 1152 01:19:47,767 --> 01:19:50,061 And making sense of all that is something 1153 01:19:50,144 --> 01:19:54,607 that I'm just sort of taking my time doing. 1154 01:19:55,608 --> 01:20:00,488 My life has been kind of instructing me to look for the timeless. 1155 01:20:02,031 --> 01:20:03,616 That's what I'm chasing. 1156 01:20:06,285 --> 01:20:10,081 ♪ Spanish lady, come to me She lays on me this rose ♪ 1157 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,129 ♪ Your rainbow spiraling round and round ♪ 1158 01:20:16,212 --> 01:20:18,422 ♪ It trembles then explodes ♪ 1159 01:20:22,051 --> 01:20:26,472 ♪ You left a smoking crater of my mind I like to blow it away ♪ 1160 01:20:30,309 --> 01:20:34,438 ♪ Well, the heat come round and busted me For smilin' on a cloudy day ♪ 1161 01:20:34,522 --> 01:20:39,819 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around y'all, now ♪ 1162 01:20:39,903 --> 01:20:42,822 ♪ Comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 1163 01:20:42,906 --> 01:20:46,743 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ They're comin' ♪ 1164 01:20:46,826 --> 01:20:48,286 ♪ Comin' around y'all, now ♪ 1165 01:20:48,369 --> 01:20:51,455 ♪ Comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 1166 01:21:53,601 --> 01:21:57,856 ♪ Escapin' through the lily fields I came across an empty space ♪ 1167 01:22:05,822 --> 01:22:10,243 ♪ It rainbowed then exploded Left a bus stop in its place ♪ 1168 01:22:18,501 --> 01:22:22,380 ♪ Bus come by and I got on That's when it all began ♪ 1169 01:22:26,509 --> 01:22:31,264 ♪ There was cowboy Neal at the wheel Of a bus to never-ever land ♪ 1170 01:22:31,347 --> 01:22:36,477 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around y'all, now ♪ 1171 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,562 ♪ Comin' around ♪ 1172 01:22:39,730 --> 01:22:43,526 ♪ Comin', comin', comin' around ♪ ♪ They're comin', comin' around ♪ 1173 01:22:43,609 --> 01:22:44,944 ♪ Comin' around y'all, now ♪ 1174 01:22:45,028 --> 01:22:48,281 ♪ Comin' around ♪ ♪ Comin' around ♪ 1175 01:23:06,174 --> 01:23:08,885 Well, okay, thank you all.100610

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