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- Dear Karla, this is to inform you
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that having served eight years of your 12 year term,
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you are now eligible for parole.
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In connection. With this eligibility, you are
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to be transferred to this facility for extended evaluation,
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at the end of which it will be my responsibility
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to recommend for
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or against around
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Carla.
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It is essential
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that you approach this evaluation in a spirit
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of complete openness
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and truthfulness in all matters,
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just as it will be indispensable for me
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to keep an open mind.
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- Hello, Carla. Hi, Dr. Arnold.
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- You look well, - Thank you. I feel good.
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I got my university degree, you know, just last month.
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- Congratulations. Thank you.
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Getting a degree while in prison.
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That's quite an accomplishment.
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- Do you mind if I smoke? Helps me relax.
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- Make yourself at home. - I brought my pajamas.
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So what do you wanna talk about? I
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- Looking at these pictures,
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how do you feel about seeing them now?
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I don't know.
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- It's cute. You,
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- God, he was so
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beautiful, but it was more than that.
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You know, he was, he was a musician, composer.
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He had these passionate dreams about becoming a filmmaker.
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He had a great job. He was smart.
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He was living the life I was dreamed of.
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- That was when you first met him.
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- Yeah, I was 18
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and my friend Peggy, my friend from work
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and I, we were at this convention in Toronto.
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We were staying at a hotel because what he said was
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that every time we were in the restaurant hanging
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out, look at that.
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And we were on the lookout for guys. Peggy, turn around.
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Look. Oh my God, he's so cute.
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When I first saw Paul, I don't know, I know it sounds naive,
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but I knew right then I was gonna marry him.
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Are they coming over here? He was just so perfect.
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- Ladies mind if we join you? - Sure. Sit down.
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- Oh, hi. - Hi. Excuse me.
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- I'm Carla. This is my friend Peggy.
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- Hi Peggy. I'm Paul Bernardo. It's my buddy Nick.
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- Hi Nick. - Where are you guys staying?
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- Here at the hotel? Yeah, we're here
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for the veterinary convention.
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Whoa.
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- Maybe that's why you're bringing out the animal.
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Oh my God.
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- I like that. Woo. Hey, come on.
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- Oh, Jesus, man.
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Hey, if you don't like it, don't watch.
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- Oh my God.
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You're beautiful.
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- Doesn't this strike you as a little risque
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- Having sex with the H looking guy
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- In front of friends?
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- You should try it dark. It livens things up.
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Look, you have to remember he was older.
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I wanted to show him that I was ready for him.
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- But you were the one who introduced him
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to certain types of sexual play.
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- I know what you're talking about. And it was no big deal.
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- Tell me more. - All right.
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That was at home. It was the first time I brought 'em there
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and yeah, I had a little surprise for him.
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What is that shop? Put these on me. Put them on. Yeah.
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- Yeah.
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Oh, I shoulda fucked me.
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You want me to fuck you? Yeah. Oh man.
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- What if I were a rapist? Oh, put inside.
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Paul said, what if I were a rapist
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and you responded. Oh, that big call.
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- Come on, doc. Don't tell me you've
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never heard of talking dirty.
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- And that's how it was. - That's all it was to me.
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- Hmm. - It was fuck talk. People do it all the time.
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- He also says that your relationship is what set him off.
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Made him start raping.
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- That's bullshit. He was raping girls before we met.
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- You didn't know that.
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- Look, Paul lived two hours away from me.
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I only saw him on the weekends in between.
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I don't know what he did. He only talked to me about his job
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and his music and his film ideas.
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Shut up. Shut
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- Up.
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Stop. Shut up.
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And you didn't know he was a suspect in the
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Scarborough rapes.
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- No. I knew there was some argument about a sketch
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that looked like him in the paper, but it was years
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before I found out more than that.
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- So you didn't know he'd actually been
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called in for questioning?
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- Not until much
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- Later.
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Hey Gus, check out the sun. It's Paul.
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He's on the front page. I haven't seen the paper.
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You gotta check it out, man. I mean, it's Paul.
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There's a picture of the Scarborough rapist,
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- But it wasn't just Nick.
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It looks like Paul. Lots of people saw the resemblance.
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- Guys, - This is worse than a job interview.
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- Well, after all the calls we had
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to follow up, we had no choice.
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- Yeah, I understand. Everybody's been kidding me
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about that picture in the paper.
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I dunno what to tell you. I mean, I, I I love women.
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I'm engaged to a beautiful girl over in St. Catherine's.
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I would just, I would never do anything like this.
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So would you mind providing a blood sample for us just
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so we can eliminate you from the other suspects?
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Yeah, of course. Anything you like,
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good. And I'm sure everything will be fine.
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- Okay. Carla, we haven't spoken of this before
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and I know it's difficult for you,
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but as the psychiatrist evaluating for parole, I would like
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to talk to you about your sister.
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Tammy.
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Do you think you're ready to do that?
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- Sure. Why not?
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- Paul says you became jealous of Tammy.
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- I wasn't. He had this thing about her
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because she was a virgin.
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He was disappointed.
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I wasn't a, when we met, he wanted something pure.
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- And Tammy, it was pure - Maybe to him.
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- They became quite close then. Hmm. It didn't bother you.
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- No.
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- Carla, I must caution you, I can't recommend you
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for parole unless you're truthful with me.
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- I don't understand - The time they came home
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late from shopping.
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Your jealousy is well documented and of summer in 1990.
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- Go inside. Go inside.
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- You've been gone for eight hours.
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- So, - So
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- Did you fuck her?
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Jesus. Oh, I didn't fuck her.
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She's still a virgin. Okay. She's
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- A slut.
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I know you want her, Paul. Just admit it.
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- Okay. Okay, so, so
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what Carlos?
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So what I, I want her I love you.
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You're the one I love. That's what matters.
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- We're engaged, Paul. - Yeah.
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- Are you gonna marry me? Maybe? Of course I am.
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I love you too. I love you so much. It's too much.
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- It's never too much
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- So needy.
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Carla, were you truly afraid of losing him to Tammy?
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- Doc, you're making me feel like I want some Demerol here.
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- You want some?
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- No,
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- We're finished here.
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- Okay, doctor.
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- It's all right Carla.
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I'll see you tomorrow.
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We'll talk about Tammy when you're arrested.
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- Okay? Aye,
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- I remember you are liking the chocolates.
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- You love me, don't you? Car. - You're my king.
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- What if your king wants something very precious?
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What if a king wants a virgin?
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- The king is the king.
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But what if the virgin doesn't agree?
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- She doesn't even have to know.
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- You're talking about Tammy Pole.
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- I don't know. Come on car.
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This would make us so close forever.
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Paul, think about it. Think about where you work.
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It's fucking veterinary clinic.
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They've got medicine there. You know what I'm talking about?
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- No, Paul, I don't.
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- Yeah, you do. Car. That shit
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that they use when they operate on dogs and cats.
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You told me about it. Hallahan.
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- That's for animals.
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- It's not gonna hurt her car. Come on car.
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This is what the king wants. Do that for me.
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Won't you car
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- For your king?
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- They would make a great Christmas present for me. Come on.
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We can't just keep putting it off.
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- Oh baby. Not today. We just had our
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engagement party. For God's sake,
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- Carla, we have a deal.
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Everything's ready. Right?
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- That's the good girl. - See, that's my good girl.
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- And there we have the beautiful baby sister. Tammy.
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You're on Daiquiri number. What is that?
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1, 2, 3. What is it?
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- Are there supposed to be two of you?
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- Oh, is baby doll a little drunk?
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What do you think baby doll? A little drunk.
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- Sure. Looks that way.
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- All right. What I want to know, Tam,
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is are you in the Christmas cheer?
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Yeah. That's so cute. Do that again.
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Oh, so sweet. She's so
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- Fucking hot.
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- There you go. Take this.
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- Oh, this is so good.
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- Christ. She should have been out an hour ago.
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- Don't is too much.
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- Don't worry. It's not gonna hurt her.
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- I love you Paul. I love you too, baby.
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More than you. Really, really?
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- Yeah. Maybe it all. Try that.
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Finally checker. Make sure
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I get it.
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What? Get it. Get the rag. Get the stuff. Get it.
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Oh baby, you're so amazing. Gimme this. I love you.
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Okay, do it. Come on. Do it.
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I love
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- You, Paul.
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Yeah, I know you do, baby. Put it on her face.
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Yeah.
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- Well, that's sweet, isn't it?
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Isn't that sweet? Hey, I asked you a question.
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- Yeah, baby. It's really, really sweet.
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- My God.
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- Take off your clothes. What? Take off your clothes.
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- But - We, we said
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- Just do, just do it.
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- Okay.
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No sucker. Come
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on, sucker.
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Breast right there.
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- You're not doing it. I did do it. No, you just do it.
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Paul. Please hurry up. Do it. Do it. Open your mouth.
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Stick out your tongue. I
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- Can't.
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Yes you can. I can't. You fucking slut.
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You fucking fucking ruin my moody.
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Don't you ever fucking do that. Look at me.
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Do you understand me? I'm sorry.
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Oh
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- Shit.
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What?
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- Oh my God. She's not breathing.
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- You're fucking kidding me. - Paul.
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She's not fucking breathing. Fuck you, Carla.
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Fuck did you do Carla? 9 1 1. Can I help you?
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This is 61 Dun Donald Street. I need you to send someone.
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My little sister stopped breathing. That was 61. Yeah, 61.
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My little sister stopped breathing.
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You need to send someone. Paramedics are on their way.
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Ma'am, please stay calm.
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- Go clean the shit outta that other room. I'll finish this.
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- Fuck.
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Unit seven.
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We have
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wake the fuck up.
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Okay. This is gonna be alright. It's gonna be alright.
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- I have the,
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- I'm getting a pulse.
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Are you getting anything? Nothing.
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- Why don't you two? Wait, outside.
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- We, we were just sitting downstairs, three
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of us watching a video.
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And then I guess we dozed off
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and then we heard Tammy making this noise.
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- What - Kind of noise?
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- Kind of like, like wheezing, choking, sort of noise.
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- Yeah. She was choking.
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- Detective Porter. Yes.
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Yes. I see. Okay.
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I am very sorry.
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I'll wait upstairs, but we'll all need to go downtown now.
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- Where's the tape? - It's safe.
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- And my letter said, dear Tammy,
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I will hold you in my heart forever.
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All my love your big sister, Carla. Yes.
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I hope you are happy and loved in God's hands.
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- This was sincere.
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- Absolutely. - Yet,
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within a few weeks of her death, you are making a movie
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with Paul, the Tammy movie.
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Nothing's off limits. Carla,
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you can tell me what you did.
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Tell me. Why?
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- Look, we made a lot of movies.
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He was,
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he was obsessed with Tammy.
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I didn't wanna lose him.
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He blamed me for her death. I had to do something.
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- But this time the movie was your idea.
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00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:01,486
- This time. Yeah.
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- A bit more to drink in mama. And then
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00:27:21,476 --> 00:27:22,545
- I need to relax.
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It is my mission in life to make you feel good.
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00:27:36,027 --> 00:27:39,297
- I loved you when you fucked my little sister. Two of you.
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00:27:40,632 --> 00:27:42,301
I loved it when you took her virginity.
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Tomorrow we're gonna take this,
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we're gonna put it on Tammy's grave
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because it touched you in your most private places.
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00:28:06,362 --> 00:28:08,564
- I'm - Give you my opportunity. I give you Tammy's.
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I love you enough to do that.
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I do that because I love you. 'cause
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- You're my king.
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- And this satisfied Paul
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- For a little while.
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Maybe there was a lot going on with him at this point,
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he just lost his job.
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00:28:47,143 --> 00:28:48,211
His mother threw him out of his house.
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So he was living with our family
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and he just kept playing
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that Christmas video over, over and over again.
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He couldn't let go of it. He made me watch it.
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He made our friends watch
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- It working on re number.
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00:29:01,293 --> 00:29:04,497
What is that? 2, 3, 1.
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00:29:04,497 --> 00:29:07,600
Are there supposed to be two of you? Oh.
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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,772
Oh, baby doll drunk. I think baby dolls.
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00:29:11,772 --> 00:29:13,340
Little drums. What do you think?
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00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:15,876
- Did everything you could that way, man,
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00:29:15,876 --> 00:29:17,478
it happened right here.
328
00:29:18,946 --> 00:29:22,751
Hey, buck up buddy. We'll get you through this, okay? Yeah.
329
00:29:23,852 --> 00:29:25,421
I'll tell you what you need to do.
330
00:29:25,421 --> 00:29:29,426
You gotta get back on your feet. All right.
331
00:29:29,426 --> 00:29:33,396
Look, I got a proposition for you. You need cash, right?
332
00:29:34,365 --> 00:29:36,567
Yeah. Oh, I need a partner.
333
00:29:39,003 --> 00:29:41,440
What are you talking about? Smuggling cigarettes.
334
00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,644
It's good for, I don't know, three, $4,000 a month.
335
00:29:46,713 --> 00:29:50,983
- What? All right, go on, buddy.
336
00:29:50,983 --> 00:29:52,319
I think I might be interested.
337
00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:55,923
- Did it bother you that this was illegal?
338
00:29:55,923 --> 00:29:59,127
- Well, the money was great for the first time.
339
00:29:59,127 --> 00:30:01,363
We could start making our own plans.
340
00:30:01,363 --> 00:30:03,765
- Place bird. - But it was a little scary.
341
00:30:03,765 --> 00:30:08,738
- Toronto. - He
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00:30:08,738 --> 00:30:09,105
could go,
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00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:20,685
woo. Ah,
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00:30:20,685 --> 00:30:22,220
- Put it here.
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00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:24,990
Alright. I can't fucking believe that. Oh my God. We did it.
346
00:30:26,291 --> 00:30:28,762
- He and Nick started making runs across the border
347
00:30:28,762 --> 00:30:29,829
a couple of times a month.
348
00:30:31,464 --> 00:30:33,666
He used the money to rent us this beautiful
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house in Port de Lucy.
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00:30:36,771 --> 00:30:37,805
It was a dream come true.
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00:30:41,777 --> 00:30:46,349
I love him. After Tammy. He was, I don't know.
352
00:30:46,349 --> 00:30:49,619
- Yeah, he likes you. - Who's changed?
353
00:30:49,619 --> 00:30:52,054
Hey guys, sometimes he was okay, but, oh shit.
354
00:30:52,054 --> 00:30:55,726
Then he turned nasty. Clean that up. I will.
355
00:30:56,894 --> 00:30:57,828
- Oh, I said do it. Do it now.
356
00:31:06,572 --> 00:31:11,645
What did I just say? I said clean up the mess.
357
00:31:12,813 --> 00:31:15,482
Yeah. So you do what? I say, look at this.
358
00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:17,518
I get you this nice big beautiful house of your own.
359
00:31:17,518 --> 00:31:19,353
You're gonna let the dog pee all over it.
360
00:31:20,855 --> 00:31:24,393
Come on car. It's not your
361
00:31:24,393 --> 00:31:25,761
- Fault, bud.
362
00:31:25,761 --> 00:31:28,531
He'd say he hated me. He didn't care if he hurt me.
363
00:31:29,899 --> 00:31:32,836
- And this was typical then in Fort Delucci
364
00:31:36,140 --> 00:31:37,208
- Some of the time.
365
00:31:39,376 --> 00:31:43,949
But we had good times too. I mean, we were free.
366
00:31:43,949 --> 00:31:47,820
We were, we were on our own.
367
00:31:49,689 --> 00:31:50,656
No,
368
00:31:54,428 --> 00:31:54,595
- Go,
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00:31:57,931 --> 00:32:01,603
go go
370
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,808
- B.
371
00:32:05,808 --> 00:32:09,411
Yeah. Get up. You really like it, huh? Kidding? I love it.
372
00:32:11,081 --> 00:32:12,148
Come here sexy.
373
00:32:15,185 --> 00:32:17,688
- What? Go?
374
00:33:03,741 --> 00:33:04,843
- There was something else though.
375
00:33:07,046 --> 00:33:09,815
- Go ahead. - You had asked,
376
00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:11,518
when I learned he was raping other girls.
377
00:33:12,919 --> 00:33:17,458
It was then in port to Lucy. He wasn't hiding it anymore.
378
00:33:17,458 --> 00:33:18,526
It was like,
379
00:33:19,527 --> 00:33:20,595
- Like what?
380
00:33:21,696 --> 00:33:23,799
- Look, because of Tammy. He had the tape.
381
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:27,736
He knew I wasn't gonna turn him in. I mean, I, I couldn't.
382
00:33:27,736 --> 00:33:28,805
Could I?
383
00:33:31,374 --> 00:33:35,980
- How many girls? - Four, five. During that time?
384
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:38,916
I'm not sure. I at least four.
385
00:34:10,286 --> 00:34:11,988
- Hey babe, where have - You been?
386
00:34:13,189 --> 00:34:17,528
- I just raped a girl. Took this off of her.
387
00:34:22,367 --> 00:34:22,968
- I am gonna burn it
388
00:34:34,848 --> 00:34:35,382
lot,
389
00:34:35,382 --> 00:34:36,016
- Babe.
390
00:34:39,687 --> 00:34:41,756
- I want us to be happy like we used to be.
391
00:34:45,660 --> 00:34:47,763
I think you hate me too much for that to happen.
392
00:34:49,498 --> 00:34:51,367
- I don't want to hate you, princess.
393
00:34:52,803 --> 00:34:54,171
- Sometimes you say you do.
394
00:34:55,305 --> 00:34:57,674
- Yeah, but baby, that's why I'm angry.
395
00:35:04,049 --> 00:35:08,921
- I love you Paul. You get married, aren't we?
396
00:35:11,024 --> 00:35:12,092
I'm here, baby.
397
00:35:17,465 --> 00:35:18,332
- Of course we are.
398
00:35:24,506 --> 00:35:27,642
Look, I'm gonna go down to Florida
399
00:35:27,642 --> 00:35:29,212
with the guys for like a week.
400
00:35:31,047 --> 00:35:32,749
It'll be my bachelor party.
401
00:35:34,885 --> 00:35:38,856
And then when I come back, it will all be good.
402
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,435
- Of course, I'll come back.
403
00:36:01,215 --> 00:36:03,618
- So Paul left you at home and went to Florida
404
00:36:04,987 --> 00:36:06,588
- For 10 days.
405
00:36:06,588 --> 00:36:08,257
- And what did you do?
406
00:36:08,257 --> 00:36:12,061
- Nothing. I just thought,
407
00:36:13,329 --> 00:36:14,397
- Thought about what?
408
00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:19,436
- Tammy? The girl he raped
409
00:36:19,436 --> 00:36:23,608
before he went to Florida, who he was with in Florida
410
00:36:25,143 --> 00:36:26,878
and how I could keep him interested in me,
411
00:36:31,184 --> 00:36:32,018
make him happy.
412
00:36:34,688 --> 00:36:35,756
- You still wanted that?
413
00:36:37,024 --> 00:36:40,962
- I wanted him. I needed him. Thank God you're back.
414
00:36:41,996 --> 00:36:44,265
I loved him. I missed you. Yeah. I
415
00:36:44,265 --> 00:36:46,001
- Miss you too, baby.
416
00:36:46,001 --> 00:36:49,371
- Here. Come on.
417
00:36:56,446 --> 00:37:00,017
So you have a good time in Florida?
418
00:37:06,191 --> 00:37:07,960
- Mm, baby. I'm really tired.
419
00:37:16,003 --> 00:37:20,708
- Stop. Hey,
420
00:37:20,708 --> 00:37:22,244
I fucked a girl named Tracy.
421
00:37:28,417 --> 00:37:33,289
- Tracy. - If
422
00:37:33,289 --> 00:37:34,791
she calls you, tell her you're my sister.
423
00:37:34,791 --> 00:37:35,859
Okay.
424
00:37:40,098 --> 00:37:44,769
- You're so bad. - You are really not mad.
425
00:37:46,672 --> 00:37:49,909
- Oh, I just want you
426
00:37:49,909 --> 00:37:54,080
to be happy and come home to me.
427
00:37:56,316 --> 00:37:57,450
- You are amazing.
428
00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:07,229
- He slept all day
429
00:38:07,229 --> 00:38:10,633
and then that night around 10, he got up and got dressed.
430
00:38:18,943 --> 00:38:20,511
- I'm going out with some friends. I'm gonna
431
00:38:20,511 --> 00:38:21,645
take these just in case
432
00:38:24,582 --> 00:38:26,952
- He hadn't with me since before he went to Florida.
433
00:38:28,354 --> 00:38:31,924
I wanted to stop him to scream out and keep him with me,
434
00:38:34,194 --> 00:38:37,764
but I couldn't, I didn't know what to say.
435
00:38:53,783 --> 00:38:56,486
- I forgot my key again. I'm locked out.
436
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,624
- It's 1145 now. Are you sure?
437
00:39:00,624 --> 00:39:02,059
- Yeah. I'll see you at work tomorrow.
438
00:39:03,027 --> 00:39:03,394
- Okay.
439
00:39:33,529 --> 00:39:37,067
- What are you doing? - I live here.
440
00:39:38,769 --> 00:39:41,072
Oh, what about you?
441
00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:47,646
- Well, I was just gonna break into your neighbor's house.
442
00:39:55,488 --> 00:39:58,959
- Got a cigarette? Yeah, I've got one in the car.
443
00:40:15,445 --> 00:40:20,084
- So what's your name? Tina McCarthy. What's yours?
444
00:40:20,884 --> 00:40:21,585
- Don't worry about that.
445
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,794
- Shut up.
446
00:40:35,836 --> 00:40:37,137
This is it.
447
00:40:37,137 --> 00:40:38,505
- I've got somebody downstairs.
448
00:40:38,505 --> 00:40:41,776
I dunno. You here for a while.
449
00:40:41,776 --> 00:40:41,976
- Be
450
00:40:52,122 --> 00:40:53,323
- Okay.
451
00:40:53,323 --> 00:40:55,158
Let's see your smile. See your smile.
452
00:40:56,226 --> 00:40:57,995
Say your name for camera.
453
00:40:57,995 --> 00:40:59,563
- Tina McCarthy.
454
00:40:59,563 --> 00:41:03,634
- That's good. Okay. Where's that smile, Tina? That's right.
455
00:41:03,634 --> 00:41:06,204
Yeah. Okay. That's nice.
456
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:12,912
And keep that smile, keep smiling again. All right, Tina.
457
00:41:14,313 --> 00:41:16,350
That looks nice. Now I want you to take off your shirt.
458
00:41:18,452 --> 00:41:21,856
- That's right. That's right. That's right.
459
00:41:23,258 --> 00:41:26,528
Slow. Slow. Nice and slow. Keep smiling. Yeah.
460
00:41:28,531 --> 00:41:29,598
We're having fun.
461
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:31,433
- Don't hurt me.
462
00:41:39,376 --> 00:41:40,278
Keep smiling.
463
00:41:44,982 --> 00:41:47,953
That's nice. That's really nice.
464
00:42:08,743 --> 00:42:09,377
No, please.
465
00:42:45,754 --> 00:42:46,822
Hey, babe.
466
00:42:59,837 --> 00:43:00,871
- Are you sure no one saw you
467
00:43:04,976 --> 00:43:07,412
- When, - When you got her?
468
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,783
No. Don't worry. Nobody saw me.
469
00:43:12,151 --> 00:43:13,552
I'm taking her up to our bedroom now.
470
00:43:26,134 --> 00:43:27,670
- I am tired of being alone. Paul.
471
00:43:34,077 --> 00:43:35,011
- You don't have to be.
472
00:43:38,815 --> 00:43:39,382
- Come on.
473
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:53,066
- Nah, late time again.
474
00:43:57,303 --> 00:43:59,006
- I have a little brother named Patrick.
475
00:44:00,274 --> 00:44:04,145
I'm very close with him, please.
476
00:44:04,145 --> 00:44:06,815
I, I really wanna see him. Oh,
477
00:44:11,954 --> 00:44:13,489
- Okay.
478
00:44:13,489 --> 00:44:16,860
Tina, I want you to take your clothes off for me again.
479
00:44:19,596 --> 00:44:24,335
Yeah, that's what I like to see. That's what I like. Yeah.
480
00:44:25,570 --> 00:44:28,073
Tina, how'd you like to have sex with two people?
481
00:44:34,581 --> 00:44:35,682
It's another girl, Tina. Oh.
482
00:44:37,083 --> 00:44:37,784
- Oh, please.
483
00:44:59,877 --> 00:45:03,046
- Okay. You're gonna get a nice big kiss now.
484
00:45:03,046 --> 00:45:06,785
A nice big kiss. Keep your eyes shut.
485
00:45:13,192 --> 00:45:14,059
- You are doing good.
486
00:45:18,665 --> 00:45:20,634
I just wanna go home and see my brother.
487
00:45:26,407 --> 00:45:27,676
- Please. Let me go.
488
00:45:29,244 --> 00:45:31,947
- You are in my good books now. You're doing real good.
489
00:45:33,348 --> 00:45:35,485
Your eyes shut. What you do in the next little while is
490
00:45:35,485 --> 00:45:36,986
gonna determine what we do with you.
491
00:45:40,224 --> 00:45:45,162
Fuck. I said Keep your eyes shut. Fuck.
492
00:45:46,298 --> 00:45:47,365
Fuck,
493
00:45:49,234 --> 00:45:50,235
- Fuck.
494
00:45:50,235 --> 00:45:50,569
Carla. Get over here.
495
00:45:55,975 --> 00:46:00,681
- She fucking identify both of us. What?
496
00:46:01,715 --> 00:46:03,350
Jail? Fucking 20 years.
497
00:46:07,856 --> 00:46:11,026
Gotta kill her. What?
498
00:46:12,328 --> 00:46:14,597
We don't have a fucking choice. I've gotta fucking her
499
00:46:18,034 --> 00:46:19,636
stupid fucking bitch.
500
00:46:24,041 --> 00:46:27,078
That's like a, a sleeping pill or something. Feeling.
501
00:46:37,423 --> 00:46:38,424
- It's okay, sweetie.
502
00:46:46,735 --> 00:46:47,702
- You gonna drink this?
503
00:46:53,709 --> 00:46:54,977
I wanted you to keep your eyes shut.
504
00:47:19,873 --> 00:47:22,977
Oh my God. My God.
505
00:47:25,446 --> 00:47:26,480
My God.
506
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,058
My God. My God.
507
00:47:41,732 --> 00:47:45,870
Cut up baby, baby.
508
00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:21,679
Do
509
00:48:25,983 --> 00:48:27,051
- I really tired?
510
00:48:28,854 --> 00:48:30,455
We're trying to make any decisions right now.
511
00:48:30,455 --> 00:48:32,190
We're gonna do something stupid. Okay?
512
00:48:36,763 --> 00:48:39,065
- Just leave her here.
513
00:49:15,642 --> 00:49:18,745
Where did she put her? Tell her
514
00:49:38,267 --> 00:49:39,102
took a shower.
515
00:49:39,102 --> 00:49:40,170
Honey,
516
00:50:07,835 --> 00:50:09,438
- I had a great idea.
517
00:50:09,438 --> 00:50:13,442
Tell me Cement. Cement. Yeah. We'll put the body in cement.
518
00:50:13,442 --> 00:50:14,977
Figured we'd cut it up into eight little pieces.
519
00:50:14,977 --> 00:50:17,280
That's eight little blocks easy.
520
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,115
- I couldn't do that. - Yeah, you could.
521
00:50:19,115 --> 00:50:20,350
Carla, and you will. If I tell you
522
00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:22,353
to Paul, I'm not doing that.
523
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:23,954
Fuck you, Carl. No. Fuck you.
524
00:50:23,954 --> 00:50:28,560
Paul couldn't believe how light
525
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,165
that head was, just flopped it in the concrete.
526
00:50:33,165 --> 00:50:34,467
That's the one with the head in it.
527
00:50:34,467 --> 00:50:35,768
I had to paint it black
528
00:50:35,768 --> 00:50:37,036
'cause the hair was kind of sticking out.
529
00:50:41,141 --> 00:50:42,176
When it gets dark, I'm gonna need you
530
00:50:42,176 --> 00:50:43,177
to help me load up the car.
531
00:51:01,198 --> 00:51:04,001
- And still, you gave no thought to leaving him.
532
00:51:06,604 --> 00:51:11,076
- I thought about it, but the wedding was two weeks away.
533
00:51:11,076 --> 00:51:15,180
And I actually thought it might change him.
534
00:51:17,317 --> 00:51:21,889
- What about you, Carla? Did what happened? Change you.
535
00:51:22,923 --> 00:51:23,991
I
536
00:51:29,998 --> 00:51:31,399
- I just wanted to get married.
537
00:51:59,833 --> 00:52:03,136
Dear Paul, I love you so much.
538
00:52:03,136 --> 00:52:05,373
Once we were an unbeatable team.
539
00:52:05,373 --> 00:52:09,678
You and me against the world. I want our love back.
540
00:52:09,678 --> 00:52:11,580
Even though we have our problems, I'm still
541
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:12,848
so much in love with you.
542
00:52:14,016 --> 00:52:16,552
People think we're the perfect couple. We are.
543
00:52:16,552 --> 00:52:18,121
We've just gotten sidetracked.
544
00:52:19,455 --> 00:52:21,692
Let's have a fairytale marriage like we're meant to.
545
00:52:21,692 --> 00:52:23,193
All my love, Carla,
546
00:52:24,628 --> 00:52:28,033
- After the wedding, you went to Hawaii on your honeymoon.
547
00:52:28,033 --> 00:52:31,636
- Paul beat the shit outta me. Why?
548
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,375
He wanted to get a girl. I didn't.
549
00:52:37,877 --> 00:52:39,680
It was our honeymoon for Christ's sake.
550
00:52:42,849 --> 00:52:44,518
- But on those honeymoon tapes
551
00:52:44,518 --> 00:52:47,255
that Paul made, you're seemed very happy.
552
00:52:48,656 --> 00:52:52,594
- Of course I did. I knew better than to fuck up his movies.
553
00:52:54,163 --> 00:52:55,130
I'd learned that lesson.
554
00:52:57,701 --> 00:53:01,438
- And on your return, you had a conversation with the Che,
555
00:53:02,505 --> 00:53:04,742
Ben and Ma, I believe. Who were they?
556
00:53:05,710 --> 00:53:06,677
- They were the original owners of
557
00:53:06,677 --> 00:53:07,478
the vet clinic where I worked.
558
00:53:08,813 --> 00:53:09,948
They'd sold it, but mall
559
00:53:09,948 --> 00:53:11,183
and I were still really good friends.
560
00:53:12,551 --> 00:53:13,785
They didn't like Paul very much,
561
00:53:13,785 --> 00:53:16,856
but they loved me. And Buddy
562
00:53:16,856 --> 00:53:18,091
- Steve and Becca called.
563
00:53:18,091 --> 00:53:19,625
They're gonna come by later and visit.
564
00:53:20,493 --> 00:53:22,863
- Oh, good. - Oh,
565
00:53:22,863 --> 00:53:24,798
and they identified the body of that girl
566
00:53:24,798 --> 00:53:26,600
that they found in the lake.
567
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,036
What girl in the lake?
568
00:53:28,903 --> 00:53:30,472
Well, you know, the one
569
00:53:30,472 --> 00:53:32,574
that was all chopped up and in some cement blocks.
570
00:53:34,977 --> 00:53:37,413
Paul, are you all right? Yeah.
571
00:53:38,447 --> 00:53:40,150
- Fine. I just slipped. He's okay.
572
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:41,752
He's just, he's just tired.
573
00:53:43,186 --> 00:53:45,323
- Okay. That does it. I, I'm gonna finish this
574
00:53:45,323 --> 00:53:46,791
up and then we're gonna leave.
575
00:53:46,791 --> 00:53:49,327
You two are just too exhausted from that long flight.
576
00:53:53,799 --> 00:53:54,767
Bye.
577
00:53:54,767 --> 00:53:58,171
- Call - You.
578
00:53:59,372 --> 00:54:01,174
It's fact so fucking stupid just now.
579
00:54:02,709 --> 00:54:04,712
- Me. You're the one who fell down.
580
00:54:04,712 --> 00:54:06,480
I was trying to cover for you. Christ.
581
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,217
You should have seen your face. It's a good thing.
582
00:54:09,217 --> 00:54:13,522
Molly's as stupid as you are. Oh,
583
00:54:13,522 --> 00:54:14,589
- What are we gonna do?
584
00:54:15,992 --> 00:54:19,062
Nothing. It's not like they can trace it to us or anything.
585
00:54:20,496 --> 00:54:22,866
- Even though he acted calm. I think he was really afraid.
586
00:54:23,967 --> 00:54:24,935
- All right. Wait, wait, wait, wait,
587
00:54:24,935 --> 00:54:25,736
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
588
00:54:28,106 --> 00:54:29,874
- When Tina's body turned up so quickly,
589
00:54:29,874 --> 00:54:31,209
Paul cooled it for a while.
590
00:54:31,209 --> 00:54:32,343
- 1, 2, 3.
591
00:54:33,712 --> 00:54:35,347
- And that next winter was a bad one.
592
00:54:36,649 --> 00:54:40,020
It was hard for him to find what he wanted. Three.
593
00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:41,822
So I guess he felt he had to improvise.
594
00:54:41,822 --> 00:54:42,456
- Drink, drink, drink, drink.
595
00:55:05,015 --> 00:55:06,784
- I don't feel so good, guys. I'm gonna go to bed.
596
00:55:22,503 --> 00:55:24,638
- Can you believe that guy? His wife is
597
00:55:24,638 --> 00:55:26,039
upstairs for God's sakes.
598
00:55:27,175 --> 00:55:30,078
- Jesse, I don't feel so well,
599
00:55:35,117 --> 00:55:36,719
- I like that introvert.
600
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,454
Hey, she's too much. You know what she said?
601
00:55:38,454 --> 00:55:40,257
She said she's so jealous of Carla that she wants
602
00:55:40,257 --> 00:55:42,192
to poison her toothbrush. Isn't that funny,
603
00:55:42,192 --> 00:55:43,627
- Man?
604
00:55:43,627 --> 00:55:45,263
Your fucking wife is upstairs, man. What are you doing?
605
00:55:45,263 --> 00:55:48,299
Whoa. If you treat Carla like that,
606
00:55:48,299 --> 00:55:49,467
why not give her to someone who'll treat her?
607
00:55:49,467 --> 00:55:51,170
Right, bro.
608
00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:53,972
- Doug, you don't fucking know anything about my marriage.
609
00:55:53,972 --> 00:55:54,973
- Yeah, - Carla
610
00:55:54,973 --> 00:55:56,275
- Doesn't give a shit.
611
00:55:56,275 --> 00:55:57,911
- What do you mean she doesn't give a shit?
612
00:55:59,879 --> 00:56:02,849
- You are a dumb bitch. You're so fucking bright.
613
00:56:02,849 --> 00:56:04,185
You didn't even fucking finish high school.
614
00:56:04,185 --> 00:56:06,220
You are a dumb, stupid bitch.
615
00:56:07,621 --> 00:56:10,926
- That's it. You piece of shit. I'm here fucking faster.
616
00:56:19,135 --> 00:56:23,140
Nips. Stop. Shit. It's all my fault. You don't know shirt.
617
00:56:25,309 --> 00:56:29,047
Get the fuck outta my house. Get out of our house, Nick,
618
00:56:29,047 --> 00:56:30,682
- You're a fucking idiot, man.
619
00:56:30,682 --> 00:56:34,086
I helped you. I got you all of this for you.
620
00:56:34,086 --> 00:56:36,822
But I hadn't set you up with those cigarettes, man.
621
00:56:36,822 --> 00:56:39,059
Fucking ungrateful bastard. Get the
622
00:56:39,059 --> 00:56:40,460
- Fuck out.
623
00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:41,561
- We don't want - You. Get the fuck out. Get your
624
00:56:41,561 --> 00:56:43,630
- Stupid - Bitch outta here. Fuck,
625
00:56:43,630 --> 00:56:45,166
- Girl.
626
00:56:45,166 --> 00:56:47,969
Get your coats. What's going on? This is too weird. Shit.
627
00:56:49,036 --> 00:56:50,404
Shit. What the fuck was that about
628
00:56:52,608 --> 00:56:53,675
- Jesus?
629
00:56:55,043 --> 00:56:57,914
The long winner and lying low was eating away at him.
630
00:56:57,914 --> 00:57:01,117
He was losing his friends one by one and didn't care.
631
00:57:02,285 --> 00:57:05,322
I did though. I wanted him to settle down.
632
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:10,829
Dear Paul, tomorrow's good Friday and then Easter.
633
00:57:11,630 --> 00:57:13,198
Do you know what that means?
634
00:57:13,198 --> 00:57:15,801
Three glorious days for Carla curls to spend with her.
635
00:57:15,801 --> 00:57:16,869
Wonderful king.
636
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:24,611
- There's a good one.
637
00:57:31,319 --> 00:57:34,690
- What do you want me to do? - Do what we said.
638
00:57:44,401 --> 00:57:47,471
- Excuse me. Hi. Can you give us directions?
639
00:57:47,471 --> 00:57:50,541
- Sure. - Okay, great. We're looking for the pen center.
640
00:57:51,643 --> 00:57:53,045
- You're gonna wanna go down the street
641
00:57:53,045 --> 00:57:54,946
and when you get to the stop sign, take a right.
642
00:57:54,946 --> 00:57:56,448
- I'm sorry. I'm so bad with directions.
643
00:57:56,448 --> 00:57:58,151
Could you show me on a map?
644
00:57:58,151 --> 00:58:02,822
- Sure. - Thank you. Okay, so we're right
645
00:58:02,822 --> 00:58:04,058
- Here.
646
00:58:04,058 --> 00:58:05,893
We're here. No, you're So,
647
00:58:05,893 --> 00:58:07,227
you're saying you're up one block.
648
00:58:07,227 --> 00:58:08,662
You're gonna go back down this street
649
00:58:08,662 --> 00:58:10,131
and then we get to the stop sign here.
650
00:58:13,768 --> 00:58:14,836
Be nice. No,
651
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:19,175
- Take her Ash.
652
00:58:19,175 --> 00:58:24,147
Take her. Ow. Let's go with me. Let go. Ow.
653
00:58:25,315 --> 00:58:28,853
- Ow. Please let go. You shut the fuck up.
654
00:58:28,853 --> 00:58:31,089
I'm not afraid to use this. Shut the fuck up.
655
00:58:39,332 --> 00:58:42,268
- Be quiet and car. Stay here.
656
00:58:42,268 --> 00:58:43,670
Take care of the phones I want some time with.
657
00:59:06,797 --> 00:59:10,001
- So that - Little scratch
658
00:59:12,604 --> 00:59:14,305
- Must have happened when we were in the car.
659
00:59:24,384 --> 00:59:27,822
- You okay sweetie? Doing all right.
660
00:59:27,822 --> 00:59:29,724
Remember to smile for the camera. Okay.
661
00:59:34,997 --> 00:59:37,733
- Sorry about that. I don't mean to hurt you.
662
00:59:40,837 --> 00:59:41,905
Who's that?
663
00:59:43,406 --> 00:59:45,843
- My boyfriend. Chris, come here.
664
00:59:49,713 --> 00:59:52,951
You fucking him. No,
665
00:59:54,386 --> 00:59:55,954
- I'm a good girl.
666
00:59:55,954 --> 01:00:00,593
No, no, no. You're not a good girl. You're a slut. Say it.
667
01:00:03,797 --> 01:00:07,534
I'm a slut. Yeah. You're my little St. Mary's sex slave.
668
01:00:08,469 --> 01:00:09,971
My master. Yeah.
669
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:12,907
- I like this one.
670
01:00:20,784 --> 01:00:24,554
- Oh, she's missing a shoe.
671
01:00:34,366 --> 01:00:37,603
- Where's your shoe? Unit six. Please respond.
672
01:00:37,603 --> 01:00:41,374
Court to main for a disturbance. Roger.
673
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:46,981
- It's back The nightmare.
674
01:00:46,981 --> 01:00:49,450
We don't know that you parents
675
01:00:54,322 --> 01:00:58,761
respond to Mr. And Mrs. Ross.
676
01:00:58,761 --> 01:00:58,995
- Yeah.
677
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:11,042
- You are my little St. Mary's slut. That's who you are.
678
01:01:11,042 --> 01:01:13,711
Say it. Fucking say it.
679
01:01:15,014 --> 01:01:16,248
Say it like you did before.
680
01:01:17,816 --> 01:01:20,352
We're having a little communication problem here.
681
01:01:20,352 --> 01:01:23,490
I want you to talk to me. Okay? I know you can talk.
682
01:01:24,758 --> 01:01:28,930
Say you love me. I love you. Paul. Say you love me.
683
01:01:30,698 --> 01:01:35,671
Come here. Say, I love you, Paul. I love you, Paul.
684
01:01:35,671 --> 01:01:39,842
I love you, Paul. I love you.
685
01:01:42,645 --> 01:01:44,480
- What the fuck is wrong with you?
686
01:01:50,688 --> 01:01:52,857
- Some things are worth time for.
687
01:01:54,593 --> 01:01:56,729
- Oh yeah. Who am I?
688
01:01:58,531 --> 01:02:03,070
- You're a bastard. What? What did you just say?
689
01:02:04,871 --> 01:02:06,440
Stupid bitch.
690
01:02:08,008 --> 01:02:13,081
- I'm sorry. You're my master. I'm sorry.
691
01:02:14,482 --> 01:02:17,987
Shouldn't have said the things I said. No. Right. Should
692
01:02:17,987 --> 01:02:19,088
- Be punished.
693
01:02:19,088 --> 01:02:21,057
Yeah. Yeah.
694
01:02:21,057 --> 01:02:24,494
I think you need, you need to be punished a little bit.
695
01:02:24,494 --> 01:02:27,131
Yeah. My little Saint Mary needs
696
01:02:27,131 --> 01:02:28,399
to be punished a little bit.
697
01:02:30,434 --> 01:02:32,771
- I'll feel better too. Come here.
698
01:02:37,776 --> 01:02:41,080
Who wants me? All the girls at St.
699
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,882
Mary's wanna
700
01:02:42,882 --> 01:02:46,487
- Fuck you because you're the most powerful man in the world
701
01:02:46,487 --> 01:02:48,322
and the most sexiest man in the world.
702
01:02:52,027 --> 01:02:52,360
- Bitch,
703
01:02:59,135 --> 01:03:00,102
- Get me some tissue.
704
01:03:06,176 --> 01:03:10,314
What's this? What you supposed to do with that? Huh?
705
01:03:10,314 --> 01:03:13,151
Stupid fucking bitch. Stupid fucking bitches.
706
01:03:13,918 --> 01:03:15,421
Stupid fucking bitch.
707
01:03:15,421 --> 01:03:19,124
Convention car.
708
01:03:21,661 --> 01:03:22,495
Get something to eat.
709
01:03:27,134 --> 01:03:31,472
Don't try anything. If she tries anything, use that.
710
01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:41,184
- Does he do that? Too often?
711
01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:50,294
All the time. Why do you stay?
712
01:03:57,369 --> 01:03:58,604
You don't understand.
713
01:04:02,141 --> 01:04:07,080
I know all of this. It's not your idea.
714
01:04:16,325 --> 01:04:17,426
You don't understand
715
01:04:33,245 --> 01:04:34,780
- Our little daughter.
716
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:38,250
She's a good girl. She's never done anything bad.
717
01:04:40,586 --> 01:04:42,855
Please, hey, whatever you do,
718
01:04:42,855 --> 01:04:44,323
- Get up. Get her.
719
01:04:44,323 --> 01:04:47,394
- Don't hurt her. Get her. You just return her to us.
720
01:04:48,595 --> 01:04:51,599
Give her a chance to live her life.
721
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:55,737
I swear, if you do, we'll try to help you out of this.
722
01:04:55,737 --> 01:04:59,074
You know, I'm sure inside you're, you're a good person,
723
01:04:59,074 --> 01:05:01,177
so please give her back to us.
724
01:05:01,177 --> 01:05:02,979
Please, please,
725
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,349
- Honey, if you see this, don't worry.
726
01:05:11,155 --> 01:05:14,192
Come on. We'll find you. I promise.
727
01:05:15,561 --> 01:05:17,896
Be patient and be brave.
728
01:05:24,003 --> 01:05:24,871
- Hey, listen to this.
729
01:05:30,444 --> 01:05:31,846
- I wrote this. It's pretty good, huh?
730
01:05:34,649 --> 01:05:35,450
- I'm going to take a shower.
731
01:06:20,637 --> 01:06:22,438
- You know, death is nothing to be afraid of.
732
01:06:24,507 --> 01:06:28,145
- I'm not afraid. My parents love me,
733
01:06:29,313 --> 01:06:30,881
and Chris loves me.
734
01:06:32,684 --> 01:06:33,985
And you can't hurt me.
735
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,054
- You can't hurt.
736
01:07:18,303 --> 01:07:21,641
- What did you feel at that moment, Carla watching her die?
737
01:07:24,610 --> 01:07:27,448
Nothing. I, nothing.
738
01:07:33,421 --> 01:07:35,757
- I was thinking about how easy it was to kill her.
739
01:07:40,596 --> 01:07:44,835
Not like the first time it was. It was easy.
740
01:07:48,271 --> 01:07:49,639
I knew it wasn't gonna stop.
741
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:53,211
- Paul says, you killed Kaitlyn
742
01:07:53,211 --> 01:07:56,849
- Ross - Beating her with the mallet that he left you on.
743
01:07:57,983 --> 01:07:59,518
- You know that's not true.
744
01:07:59,518 --> 01:08:01,253
- Many people think it is the truth.
745
01:08:01,253 --> 01:08:04,190
Carla, these Toronto detectives think you are the
746
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:05,625
murderer, not Paul.
747
01:08:05,625 --> 01:08:10,698
So does the FBI profiler and the RCMP supervisor.
748
01:08:11,232 --> 01:08:12,033
Well, fuck them.
749
01:08:16,505 --> 01:08:18,473
Is there anything you'd like to add to that
750
01:08:27,084 --> 01:08:28,152
- Car?
751
01:08:40,933 --> 01:08:42,168
- I didn't kill anybody.
752
01:08:47,941 --> 01:08:52,113
- What about Tammy Carla, fuck you,
753
01:09:06,729 --> 01:09:07,464
- 12 I
754
01:09:16,908 --> 01:09:20,613
- Green Ribbon Task Force formed only a few days ago have
755
01:09:20,613 --> 01:09:23,015
indicated that they now believe that the murderer
756
01:09:23,015 --> 01:09:26,353
of Kaitlyn Ross may not have been working alone.
757
01:09:26,353 --> 01:09:28,589
Police now believe that the murderer
758
01:09:28,589 --> 01:09:31,391
and a second man may be working together.
759
01:09:31,391 --> 01:09:34,629
Police continue to look for a cream colored Camaro.
760
01:09:34,629 --> 01:09:37,532
- Oh, yeah. You fucking idiots.
761
01:09:37,532 --> 01:09:39,034
You don't know the difference between a Nissan
762
01:09:39,034 --> 01:09:40,569
and a Camaro and Carlos's.
763
01:09:40,569 --> 01:09:43,072
Officially a fucking man. That's really fucking bright.
764
01:09:47,577 --> 01:09:48,512
- What the fuck?
765
01:10:10,337 --> 01:10:12,239
- Hi, are you Paul Bernardo?
766
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:17,245
- Yeah. Can I help you? You wanna come in?
767
01:10:18,513 --> 01:10:21,184
- We're investigating the death of Kaitlyn Voss.
768
01:10:23,519 --> 01:10:24,787
Your name surfaced.
769
01:10:24,787 --> 01:10:27,291
- Well, I can't say I'm too surprised.
770
01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:30,561
I mean, this happened before up in Toronto when they were
771
01:10:30,561 --> 01:10:32,062
investigating the Scarborough Rapist.
772
01:10:35,033 --> 01:10:36,734
- You still married Mr. Bernardo?
773
01:10:36,734 --> 01:10:40,272
- Yeah. - Is your wife home?
774
01:10:40,272 --> 01:10:43,509
No, she's, she's working. She, where does she work?
775
01:10:44,678 --> 01:10:46,012
- St. Catherine's Veterinary Clinic.
776
01:10:47,814 --> 01:10:50,618
- And what do you do? - I'm an accountant.
777
01:10:52,086 --> 01:10:55,556
- And where do you work? - Actually, between jobs right now
778
01:11:00,929 --> 01:11:03,399
- And the afternoon of April 16th.
779
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:05,068
That was the Thursday before Easter.
780
01:11:05,969 --> 01:11:07,103
Do you remember where you were?
781
01:11:09,740 --> 01:11:14,144
- Hmm. Oh yeah.
782
01:11:14,144 --> 01:11:16,514
I was right here. I was working on my music.
783
01:11:16,514 --> 01:11:18,550
Got a little studio right back there.
784
01:11:21,654 --> 01:11:24,290
- Well, that's about it.
785
01:11:30,130 --> 01:11:31,064
- Well, let me know if there's
786
01:11:31,064 --> 01:11:32,300
anything else I can do to help.
787
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:36,137
- Good luck.
788
01:11:48,852 --> 01:11:51,622
- Fuck fucking tapes.
789
01:11:56,561 --> 01:12:00,265
- They had no idea. I was cool as a cucumber baby.
790
01:12:03,002 --> 01:12:07,540
Cool. As a cucumber. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.
791
01:12:07,540 --> 01:12:12,379
I wish you could have seen it. Hmm.
792
01:12:13,447 --> 01:12:15,116
- Yo,
793
01:12:16,918 --> 01:12:18,553
I'm the cracker rapper.
794
01:12:18,553 --> 01:12:19,688
The lady attacker.
795
01:12:19,688 --> 01:12:21,257
The coppers think they know me,
796
01:12:21,257 --> 01:12:23,492
but the coppers, they can blow me.
797
01:12:23,492 --> 01:12:24,960
'cause the Scarborough raper,
798
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,863
that's just the tip of this caper.
799
01:12:30,934 --> 01:12:32,002
You are not even smiling.
800
01:12:34,105 --> 01:12:37,542
- Yeah, I am. - No, you're not.
801
01:12:37,542 --> 01:12:38,744
- Yep, - I am. No, you're not.
802
01:12:38,744 --> 01:12:40,045
I'm trying to lighten things up here.
803
01:12:40,045 --> 01:12:41,380
And you just stand there like a fucking stump.
804
01:12:44,116 --> 01:12:47,921
- I'm sorry. - Yeah, you
805
01:12:47,921 --> 01:12:48,922
- Are.
806
01:12:48,922 --> 01:12:49,155
Sorry.
807
01:13:01,536 --> 01:13:03,539
- He was really afraid now that they were onto him,
808
01:13:06,509 --> 01:13:09,113
and for me, it just got worse and worse.
809
01:13:10,848 --> 01:13:15,320
Whoa. It came
810
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,422
to a head when we were crossing the border in July.
811
01:13:20,693 --> 01:13:24,063
- Okay. You two been going
812
01:13:24,063 --> 01:13:25,631
back and forth quite a bit lately.
813
01:13:25,631 --> 01:13:29,469
What have you been doing in the us? I'm asking
814
01:13:29,469 --> 01:13:30,537
- Her.
815
01:13:32,707 --> 01:13:35,443
We have friends that are getting married.
816
01:13:40,649 --> 01:13:41,717
- I'd like you both to get outta the car.
817
01:13:52,563 --> 01:13:53,130
- Open the trunk,
818
01:14:01,006 --> 01:14:01,306
Roger.
819
01:14:07,547 --> 01:14:10,851
All right. Thank you. Thank you.
820
01:14:29,773 --> 01:14:30,841
Yeah.
821
01:14:35,146 --> 01:14:37,315
- Fucking idiot could have gone to jail because of you.
822
01:14:37,315 --> 01:14:40,686
- Fucking stupid fucking bitch.
823
01:14:40,686 --> 01:14:42,588
Ever fucking do something stupid?
824
01:15:05,648 --> 01:15:07,016
- What are you doing, bitch?
825
01:15:11,755 --> 01:15:12,956
Oh, that's really sweet car.
826
01:15:27,574 --> 01:15:31,811
- Hello? Molly car is at you. Are you all right?
827
01:15:34,515 --> 01:15:38,086
No. Did he beat you up again? Can he come?
828
01:15:39,288 --> 01:15:43,926
Hold on. We're leaving right now. Okay. Fuck
829
01:15:43,926 --> 01:15:45,028
- You car.
830
01:15:45,028 --> 01:15:49,399
Fuck you. You're fat. You're ugly.
831
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:53,537
You're stupid. I fucking hate you.
832
01:15:53,537 --> 01:15:58,543
You stupid fucking cunt. Fuck you, Carla. Get out.
833
01:16:00,278 --> 01:16:02,381
Are you okay? Oh, look, it's Molly
834
01:16:02,381 --> 01:16:05,751
and Danny here to rescue the stupid bitch.
835
01:16:05,751 --> 01:16:09,990
Get the fuck out. Stay out. Get outta my house.
836
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:11,692
Fucking hate your guts.
837
01:16:11,692 --> 01:16:13,193
- I don't take these to the cops.
838
01:16:13,193 --> 01:16:16,864
- Get the fuck out, Carla. Get the fuck outta my house.
839
01:16:16,864 --> 01:16:20,502
Come on, Carla. Let's go, princess.
840
01:16:21,570 --> 01:16:23,539
- Wait, - Princess.
841
01:16:24,673 --> 01:16:28,745
Sweetie, please come here just for a second.
842
01:16:28,745 --> 01:16:32,350
Don't do it, Carla. I'm calm. See, I'm totally calm.
843
01:16:33,784 --> 01:16:35,319
I just need to talk to you just for a second.
844
01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:37,521
Don't listen to him. Come on. Come on.
845
01:16:37,521 --> 01:16:40,692
Don't leave like this. Please am.
846
01:16:44,797 --> 01:16:48,368
- Come on, Carla.
847
01:16:49,302 --> 01:16:50,371
It's okay. Mom.
848
01:17:00,915 --> 01:17:03,552
- Fucking crazy. Whatcha doing? You can't leave me.
849
01:17:06,055 --> 01:17:09,026
- I'm leaving. - You're fucking insane.
850
01:17:09,026 --> 01:17:11,695
I can wreck your life forever.
851
01:17:11,695 --> 01:17:15,566
- Forever. Car, I will show your parents the videotape
852
01:17:15,566 --> 01:17:17,969
of you killing Tammy, your sister.
853
01:17:17,969 --> 01:17:19,370
You think they're gonna welcome you into their
854
01:17:19,370 --> 01:17:20,639
home with open arms then?
855
01:17:20,639 --> 01:17:23,976
Huh? Do you think about it? Think about it.
856
01:17:23,976 --> 01:17:25,444
Real fucking hard car.
857
01:17:28,081 --> 01:17:29,015
- Come on, Carla.
858
01:17:33,354 --> 01:17:35,156
- Why does it have to be like this?
859
01:17:37,692 --> 01:17:42,664
Why can't we just start over? Hey,
860
01:17:45,034 --> 01:17:45,902
- It doesn't, we can,
861
01:18:03,889 --> 01:18:04,490
Carla.
862
01:18:17,505 --> 01:18:21,243
Oh, isn't that sweet?
863
01:18:22,611 --> 01:18:23,712
Come bed, honey.
864
01:18:25,915 --> 01:18:26,850
Come to bed, honey,
865
01:18:30,854 --> 01:18:31,421
please.
866
01:18:31,421 --> 01:18:32,156
Paul,
867
01:18:33,157 --> 01:18:34,158
- Please.
868
01:18:34,158 --> 01:18:38,430
Paul, do you
869
01:18:38,430 --> 01:18:40,599
really think that you can pull something like that
870
01:18:40,599 --> 01:18:41,666
and not have to pay for it?
871
01:18:41,666 --> 01:18:44,904
Huh? Put these on.
872
01:18:46,472 --> 01:18:49,175
What is that? Put them on.
873
01:18:51,445 --> 01:18:52,613
Get on your knees, bitch.
874
01:18:57,051 --> 01:18:57,685
- Hurt your back.
875
01:19:04,226 --> 01:19:08,632
That's right. That's fucking right. Yeah. You like that?
876
01:19:10,934 --> 01:19:15,506
- Shut the fuck up. Don't make a fucking sound.
877
01:19:18,142 --> 01:19:19,811
Yeah, that's right.
878
01:19:20,846 --> 01:19:24,616
You shut the fuck up. Shut
879
01:19:24,616 --> 01:19:26,586
- The fuck up.
880
01:19:32,693 --> 01:19:36,163
You wanna fucking die, bitch. Yeah. You want to die.
881
01:19:58,489 --> 01:20:01,726
Aren't you fucking nice to you? You know that?
882
01:20:03,863 --> 01:20:05,331
Aren't you fucking nice to you?
883
01:20:32,997 --> 01:20:34,465
- You are gonna stay down here tonight,
884
01:20:35,666 --> 01:20:37,434
you and Tina McCarthy.
885
01:21:11,341 --> 01:21:13,778
- What the fuck do you think you're doing? Huh?
886
01:21:37,004 --> 01:21:38,940
- Hello? - Is this Molly Jehovah's?
887
01:21:40,108 --> 01:21:42,877
- Yes. - You're Carla's friend,
888
01:21:42,877 --> 01:21:45,715
right? Who
889
01:21:45,715 --> 01:21:47,516
- Is this?
890
01:21:47,516 --> 01:21:49,753
- A friend of hers at the clinic. Carla needs you right now.
891
01:21:49,753 --> 01:21:50,721
Please
892
01:22:05,671 --> 01:22:09,109
- Come here. Oh my God.
893
01:22:09,109 --> 01:22:12,345
- I'm okay. You are not okay.
894
01:22:12,345 --> 01:22:14,949
The people at work, I told them I was in a car accident.
895
01:22:16,951 --> 01:22:19,153
I have to finish my shift at work,
896
01:22:19,153 --> 01:22:20,622
and then I have to get a couple things from home.
897
01:22:20,622 --> 01:22:22,057
Just come with me now.
898
01:22:22,057 --> 01:22:24,126
Just come and get me tonight at nine 30.
899
01:22:24,126 --> 01:22:26,129
Call us to go across the border and I'll be alone.
900
01:22:27,363 --> 01:22:32,236
I'll be ready. Really? I will, but I wasn't ready.
901
01:22:33,604 --> 01:22:35,572
The longer I waited, the more I thought about
902
01:22:35,572 --> 01:22:37,508
what he would do to me if I crossed him again.
903
01:22:38,877 --> 01:22:41,746
I was terrified. He'll kill me if I leave.
904
01:22:43,014 --> 01:22:46,685
- No, no, Carla, we'll find you a place that's safe.
905
01:22:46,685 --> 01:22:49,890
I promise. But he'll find me.
906
01:22:50,891 --> 01:22:52,526
We're gonna take you to the hospital
907
01:22:52,526 --> 01:22:55,595
and when you better, I have a cousin
908
01:22:55,595 --> 01:22:58,132
who owns some apartments in Brampton.
909
01:23:00,001 --> 01:23:00,968
Pop doesn't know them.
910
01:23:04,940 --> 01:23:07,142
- Okay? Okay. Okay.
911
01:23:13,183 --> 01:23:14,718
- The doctor says it's the worst case
912
01:23:14,718 --> 01:23:17,788
of spousal abuse he's ever seen. We're going to book him,
913
01:23:17,788 --> 01:23:19,457
- But he won't be in jail.
914
01:23:19,457 --> 01:23:21,760
- Well, overnight probably, but that's all.
915
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,829
She can get a restraining order if she needs one.
916
01:23:32,039 --> 01:23:34,441
- Hey, babe, I'm home.
917
01:23:42,884 --> 01:23:43,853
Car
918
01:23:51,528 --> 01:23:56,033
Carla car.
919
01:24:01,372 --> 01:24:02,407
Fuck.
920
01:24:06,411 --> 01:24:09,883
- They only kept him one night. He was out the next day.
921
01:24:10,783 --> 01:24:12,418
- So the arrested no good.
922
01:24:13,821 --> 01:24:17,358
- Not for me, but I think it renewed their interest in Paul.
923
01:24:18,559 --> 01:24:20,362
They rechecked the DNA samples Paul had given
924
01:24:20,362 --> 01:24:21,463
them two years earlier.
925
01:24:28,671 --> 01:24:31,775
- Detective Kirby here, - You're not gonna believe this.
926
01:24:31,775 --> 01:24:33,744
I have a DNA match for three of the victims
927
01:24:33,744 --> 01:24:34,845
of the Scarborough rapes.
928
01:24:36,213 --> 01:24:38,316
It's that guy that they arrested in St. Catherine's.
929
01:24:38,316 --> 01:24:40,785
- Bernardo. - You've got your Scarborough rapist.
930
01:24:42,053 --> 01:24:45,524
- But they didn't have him. Not yet. Not legally.
931
01:24:45,524 --> 01:24:47,693
- Yeah, it's - Me. They needed more evidence.
932
01:24:47,693 --> 01:24:48,727
They just got confirmation and all they
933
01:24:48,727 --> 01:24:50,530
could do start watching him.
934
01:24:50,530 --> 01:24:52,132
- Let's put him under 24 hour surveillance
935
01:24:52,132 --> 01:24:53,466
and have a wiretap authorized.
936
01:24:53,466 --> 01:24:55,937
I feel like I'm living in a fucking fishbowl.
937
01:24:55,937 --> 01:24:58,506
I don't even answer the phone. It's fucking tapped.
938
01:24:58,506 --> 01:25:02,711
- You gotta get yourself together, man. Get a haircut.
939
01:25:02,711 --> 01:25:04,880
Clean up. Get a job,
940
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,449
and tell the judge you were wrong for beating Carla.
941
01:25:08,551 --> 01:25:12,222
Oh, fuck you, Doug. Hey, listen, man,
942
01:25:12,222 --> 01:25:13,557
I'm trying to be your friend.
943
01:25:13,557 --> 01:25:15,025
You know? If you're gonna freak out at me
944
01:25:15,025 --> 01:25:16,760
and be an asshole, I'll leave.
945
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,296
You. Got it? Yeah.
946
01:25:20,098 --> 01:25:22,867
- Sorry. It's just what?
947
01:25:33,814 --> 01:25:34,848
What do you think of Tammy
948
01:25:34,848 --> 01:25:35,916
- Dying?
949
01:25:38,519 --> 01:25:42,690
I don't know. I mean, it's, it's kind of weird, I guess.
950
01:25:42,690 --> 01:25:45,527
Kind of fucking strange fucking 16-year-old girl
951
01:25:45,527 --> 01:25:46,662
just dying like that.
952
01:25:47,896 --> 01:25:49,966
- Yeah. 16-year-old girls. Don't just fucking
953
01:25:49,966 --> 01:25:51,034
- Die, Doug.
954
01:25:51,034 --> 01:25:52,269
Use your fucking head.
955
01:25:53,403 --> 01:25:56,173
Carla killed her and I have it on fucking
956
01:25:56,173 --> 01:25:57,375
- Videotape.
957
01:25:57,375 --> 01:25:58,376
She fucking pulled the trigger. Man.
958
01:26:00,578 --> 01:26:02,748
You have Carla killing Tammy on videotape.
959
01:26:03,782 --> 01:26:06,551
- Is it live? Yes. Is it Mex? Yes.
960
01:26:06,551 --> 01:26:07,954
I have it in fucking live in color.
961
01:26:07,954 --> 01:26:08,888
And I'll tell you this right now,
962
01:26:08,888 --> 01:26:10,056
Doug. If I go down this fucking
963
01:26:10,056 --> 01:26:11,391
- Assault charge,
964
01:26:11,391 --> 01:26:13,059
I'm gonna bring everybody else down with me.
965
01:26:14,828 --> 01:26:16,563
Hey, take it easy, man. You don't know Doug,
966
01:26:16,563 --> 01:26:20,435
but if you fucking, if you really fucking love somebody,
967
01:26:20,435 --> 01:26:22,804
you will do anything to get them back.
968
01:26:22,804 --> 01:26:24,339
Even if you have to fucking sink 'em.
969
01:26:36,753 --> 01:26:37,855
- Oh, if she were to come back,
970
01:26:37,855 --> 01:26:39,057
I would love her with all my heart.
971
01:26:45,297 --> 01:26:49,502
- You understand that? Anything you say now,
972
01:26:50,603 --> 01:26:52,372
it's called attorney-client privilege.
973
01:26:53,740 --> 01:26:58,279
I can't do anything to hurt you. I can only help you.
974
01:26:58,279 --> 01:27:00,715
- Now, - What is it exactly that we're talking about
975
01:27:04,986 --> 01:27:09,092
- The murders of Tina McCarthy and Kaitlyn Ross. You
976
01:27:09,092 --> 01:27:10,393
- Have information about - That?
977
01:27:11,294 --> 01:27:12,428
I have more than information.
978
01:27:14,565 --> 01:27:16,266
I didn't do it, but I was there.
979
01:27:24,743 --> 01:27:28,481
If I help, can you get me immunity?
980
01:27:30,316 --> 01:27:32,686
- Look, why don't you just start at the beginning
981
01:27:32,686 --> 01:27:33,820
and tell me everything.
982
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,629
- How did you feel, Carla, after seeing the attorney
983
01:27:42,864 --> 01:27:44,266
- Like for the first time?
984
01:27:44,266 --> 01:27:47,336
Paul wasn't controlling me, and it felt really good.
985
01:27:53,042 --> 01:27:56,013
I felt like there was this whole world out there,
986
01:27:56,814 --> 01:27:58,048
a world I'd forgotten about.
987
01:27:58,916 --> 01:28:02,020
It was there again. Now it felt
988
01:28:02,020 --> 01:28:03,789
- Great.
989
01:28:03,789 --> 01:28:07,560
Hey, beautiful. Wanna dance? Okay.
990
01:28:14,501 --> 01:28:19,407
- Hey car. I
991
01:28:19,407 --> 01:28:20,708
know this won't sound very good
992
01:28:20,708 --> 01:28:23,978
because of the kind of kind of recording it is
993
01:28:23,978 --> 01:28:28,117
and I've been crying and stuff, but this is for you, pal.
994
01:28:29,218 --> 01:28:29,418
I
995
01:28:33,957 --> 01:28:34,958
I still love you
996
01:28:37,227 --> 01:28:42,099
- And I
997
01:28:42,099 --> 01:28:44,803
know that I, I treated you like such
998
01:28:44,803 --> 01:28:48,307
shit, and I'm so,
999
01:28:50,944 --> 01:28:52,612
- I'm so, so sorry.
1000
01:28:58,953 --> 01:29:01,623
I wish I had made love to you, looking at you in the face.
1001
01:29:04,793 --> 01:29:08,998
And I wish, I wish we
1002
01:29:08,998 --> 01:29:10,066
- Had had a kid.
1003
01:29:20,445 --> 01:29:20,645
I love you, ma.
1004
01:29:59,156 --> 01:30:01,426
Oh God,
1005
01:30:41,672 --> 01:30:42,907
I miss you so much.
1006
01:31:24,889 --> 01:31:25,758
Why Carla?
1007
01:31:29,762 --> 01:31:32,332
Why not? Hmm.
1008
01:31:36,903 --> 01:31:39,807
- It felt really good to forget
1009
01:31:43,445 --> 01:31:45,647
to grab some happiness again and not let go of it.
1010
01:31:49,017 --> 01:31:50,553
I mean, I felt like I was
1011
01:31:52,388 --> 01:31:54,023
18 again before I met Paul.
1012
01:31:56,827 --> 01:31:57,895
A chance to start over.
1013
01:32:03,468 --> 01:32:05,503
- But you couldn't start over, could you?
1014
01:32:11,677 --> 01:32:11,944
- No,
1015
01:32:16,983 --> 01:32:18,051
- But I tried.
1016
01:33:02,704 --> 01:33:06,541
- Hello? Is this Paul Bernardo of 57th Bayview Lane?
1017
01:33:08,110 --> 01:33:11,147
Yeah. Who's this? A possible business venture for you?
1018
01:33:11,147 --> 01:33:12,915
Who is this? My name is, what do you want?
1019
01:33:12,915 --> 01:33:14,518
I'm not interested.
1020
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,411
- What did I say? You looked like you. You said I
1021
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:41,115
- You look like that.
1022
01:33:41,115 --> 01:33:45,320
Acting Valley Regional Police finally made an
1023
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,423
arrest in the Scarborough rape cases eight years
1024
01:33:48,423 --> 01:33:50,293
after the first rapes occurred.
1025
01:33:50,293 --> 01:33:53,863
The man in custody is 28-year-old Paul Bernardo.
1026
01:33:53,863 --> 01:33:56,867
He was arrested late this afternoon at 57 Bayview
1027
01:33:56,867 --> 01:33:58,268
Bernardo's home in St.
1028
01:33:58,268 --> 01:34:00,971
Catherine's, which he rented with a female companion,
1029
01:34:00,971 --> 01:34:03,341
believed to be his wife, Carla Homolka,
1030
01:34:03,341 --> 01:34:05,844
who is still being sought by police for questioning.
1031
01:34:05,844 --> 01:34:07,847
- Oh my - God. Anyone with information
1032
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regarding Carla Homolka is urged to contact police.
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We can only hope that this arrest will prove
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to be the beginning of the final chapter of this story,
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and that some sense of closure may be brought to those
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who have lived in terror for so long.
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- I had gone out to get something to eat.
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When I came back, Carla was sitting in the living room
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crying, and I ran upstairs
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and Kaitlyn was dead.
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She was lying there with a cord tied
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around her neck and there was blood in her mouth.
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- Isn't it true that when alone with her,
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Kaitlyn became very upset when she saw her father on TV
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and she tried to escape,
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and in the ensuing struggle, you hit her
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with a mallet in the frenzy.
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Kaitlyn twisted the noose
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around her neck and strangled herself.
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- That is a total lie.
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I've never hit anybody in my life, Mr. Siegel.
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- And when Paul came home, Kaitlyn was dead on the floor.
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- That's a lie. Paul is trying to twist everything
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so he gets off for the murder
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of Kaitlyn Ross, but he did it.
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- I know. I've done some really terrible things
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and I've caused a lot of sadness
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and sorrow to a lot of people,
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and I'm really sorry about that.
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And I know that I deserved to be punished,
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but I didn't kill those girls.
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- They convicted Paul on two counts of murder.
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They gave life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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I plea bargained and was given 12 years.
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Victims' rights groups all over Canada protested.
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They thought the sentence was too light.
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When will I know the results
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- Parole board meets in 10 days?
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- You think I killed Kaitlyn Raw, don't you?
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- My report addresses what you might
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01:36:38,622 --> 01:36:42,559
or might not do in the future, not what you did
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or didn't do in the past.
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- I'm not a psychopath. You know?
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I am safe inside anyway.
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I say there are people outside waiting
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to kill me when I get out.
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It's probably just as well this way.
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- Goodbye, Carla.
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- Bye.
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- I know there are people out there
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who think I killed Kaitlyn Ross and Tina McCarthy.
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I didn't, but Dr. Arnold was right.
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I did kill somebody. I killed my little sister.
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How can anyone ever be forgiven for that?
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I think about what I did every day.
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I really do.
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