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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,382 --> 00:00:08,593 [narrator] The golden age of television. 2 00:00:08,593 --> 00:00:11,095 I Love Lucy didn't just change American television, 3 00:00:11,095 --> 00:00:12,597 it invented American television. 4 00:00:12,597 --> 00:00:14,307 [narrator] Back when one screen 5 00:00:14,307 --> 00:00:16,142 brought everyone together. 6 00:00:16,142 --> 00:00:19,395 Watching television was a family event. 7 00:00:19,395 --> 00:00:21,355 [narrator] The shows that shaped us. 8 00:00:21,355 --> 00:00:24,567 [Gary Cole] The Brady Bunch was part of the American soul. 9 00:00:24,567 --> 00:00:28,112 -It's timeless. -[narrator] The familiar faces. 10 00:00:28,112 --> 00:00:30,281 [Bob Costas] Ralph Kramden was loved on The Honeymooners. 11 00:00:30,281 --> 00:00:33,117 -Pow! Right in the kisser. -He was a presence. 12 00:00:33,117 --> 00:00:34,577 [narrator] The unforgettable moments. 13 00:00:34,577 --> 00:00:36,370 Dynasty captured the essence 14 00:00:36,370 --> 00:00:38,623 of what the 1980s were about in America. 15 00:00:38,623 --> 00:00:40,208 [narrator] These are their stories. 16 00:00:40,208 --> 00:00:41,793 [Jeff Zucker] Cheers is the pinnacle 17 00:00:41,793 --> 00:00:43,294 of how great the sitcom can be. 18 00:00:43,294 --> 00:00:45,338 [narrator] This is TV We Love. 19 00:00:49,717 --> 00:00:53,179 [retro piano playing] 20 00:00:53,179 --> 00:00:56,849 [narrator] It's 1981, Reagan is sworn into office 21 00:00:56,849 --> 00:00:59,352 and ushers in a whole new era for America. 22 00:01:00,478 --> 00:01:03,439 This decade, it's called interruption, 23 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:05,983 was probably epitomized by Dynasty. 24 00:01:05,983 --> 00:01:08,236 [Jim Colucci] Dynasty could not have been more perfectly timed. 25 00:01:08,236 --> 00:01:10,696 [narrator] Bigger, bolder, brasher, 26 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:13,032 and unapologetically '80s. 27 00:01:13,032 --> 00:01:14,659 I require one bedroom for my wardrobe 28 00:01:14,659 --> 00:01:16,828 and one for myself. 29 00:01:16,828 --> 00:01:18,913 Dynasty also starred powerful women. 30 00:01:18,913 --> 00:01:21,707 They looked great and they dressed great. 31 00:01:21,707 --> 00:01:25,294 [narrator] The country becomes Dynasty obsessed... 32 00:01:25,294 --> 00:01:27,171 [announcer] Joan Collins is one of the most photographed 33 00:01:27,171 --> 00:01:29,549 and written about people in the world. 34 00:01:29,549 --> 00:01:32,385 [narrator] ...as it morphs into a cultural phenomenon. 35 00:01:32,385 --> 00:01:34,053 [Catherine Oxenberg] 100 million people a week 36 00:01:34,053 --> 00:01:35,680 globally watch the show. 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,474 [Gordon Thomson] The world was Dynasty mad. 38 00:01:42,854 --> 00:01:44,730 [Jim] The early '80s were an interesting time. 39 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:48,025 Primetime soaps were a relatively new phenomenon. 40 00:01:48,025 --> 00:01:50,528 Dallas is an enormous breakthrough 41 00:01:50,528 --> 00:01:53,447 in that it brings the idea of the continuing storyline 42 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:57,076 to primetime television in a hit show. 43 00:01:57,076 --> 00:01:59,245 All the other networks, the two other networks, 44 00:01:59,245 --> 00:02:00,663 I should say, NBC and ABC, 45 00:02:00,663 --> 00:02:02,331 wanted their own version of Dallas. 46 00:02:02,331 --> 00:02:03,666 Where do we get one of those? 47 00:02:03,666 --> 00:02:07,086 ABC went to Aaron Spelling and said, 48 00:02:07,086 --> 00:02:09,630 "Give me a Dallas." 49 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:11,716 Aaron Spelling was a mega hit producer 50 00:02:11,716 --> 00:02:14,302 who worked on shows like Charlie's Angels, 51 00:02:14,302 --> 00:02:15,678 Fantasy Island. 52 00:02:15,678 --> 00:02:19,140 He really figured out the formula 53 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:22,143 for nighttime soap operas. 54 00:02:24,395 --> 00:02:26,647 ABC knew how important Aaron Spelling was. 55 00:02:26,647 --> 00:02:29,358 And certainly, he was 56 00:02:29,358 --> 00:02:31,569 one of the most important producers of that era. 57 00:02:31,569 --> 00:02:33,738 Esther Shapiro and her husband 58 00:02:33,738 --> 00:02:37,575 brought a script to Aaron and he said, 59 00:02:37,575 --> 00:02:39,535 "I think we can really work with this." 60 00:02:39,535 --> 00:02:41,871 Dallas was already on the air. 61 00:02:41,871 --> 00:02:44,832 They were on a ranch, they wore ranch clothes. 62 00:02:44,832 --> 00:02:47,084 But Aaron wanted this totally elegant. 63 00:02:47,084 --> 00:02:49,879 We began thinking of a series that had everything 64 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:52,215 that you're not supposed to put on television. 65 00:02:52,215 --> 00:02:54,342 Rich people, the Midwest, 66 00:02:54,342 --> 00:02:56,761 older women particularly, 67 00:02:56,761 --> 00:02:59,347 strong, powerful, lots of business, 68 00:02:59,347 --> 00:03:02,183 entrepreneur, greed, opulence. 69 00:03:02,183 --> 00:03:05,478 At one time, the title of the show was "Oil". 70 00:03:05,478 --> 00:03:07,188 We talked about that a lot. 71 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:09,065 Lo and behold, the Shapiros came up 72 00:03:09,065 --> 00:03:11,317 with a title called Dynasty that I just loved. 73 00:03:11,317 --> 00:03:13,027 I think that said everything. 74 00:03:13,027 --> 00:03:14,612 They did a tremendous job. 75 00:03:14,612 --> 00:03:16,530 We worked together, 76 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:19,116 but I give full credit for Dynasty to them. 77 00:03:20,034 --> 00:03:22,870 When Dynasty premiered, I really remarked 78 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:25,665 on quite how different it was from Dallas. 79 00:03:25,665 --> 00:03:29,669 It really was this upstairs-downstairs drama 80 00:03:29,669 --> 00:03:33,005 focusing on the ultra-wealthy Carringtons 81 00:03:33,005 --> 00:03:35,174 who were led by Blake Carrington, 82 00:03:35,174 --> 00:03:36,842 an oil tycoon. 83 00:03:36,842 --> 00:03:38,594 [Jim] The storytelling, which I found, 84 00:03:38,594 --> 00:03:41,222 was so ratcheted up on Dynasty. 85 00:03:41,222 --> 00:03:43,224 It's more verbal, it's more visual, 86 00:03:43,224 --> 00:03:44,684 it just was more catchy. 87 00:03:44,684 --> 00:03:47,687 [Dynasty theme song playing] 88 00:03:47,687 --> 00:03:49,438 [Pamela Sue Martin] My agent sent me the script 89 00:03:49,438 --> 00:03:51,274 for the pilot. 90 00:03:51,274 --> 00:03:53,484 I said, well, "I don't really want to do television." 91 00:03:53,484 --> 00:03:57,571 I envisioned myself as having a film career at that time. 92 00:03:57,571 --> 00:03:59,407 And he said, "Oh, it's just a pilot, 93 00:03:59,407 --> 00:04:01,158 just do it, it won't be any big deal. 94 00:04:02,326 --> 00:04:04,328 And sell me into the harem of a sheep 95 00:04:04,328 --> 00:04:07,081 for three barrels of crude and a box of cigars. 96 00:04:07,081 --> 00:04:09,458 [Al Corley] The audition was like a film audition. 97 00:04:09,458 --> 00:04:12,461 They had it at a soundstage, they had a real film camera, 98 00:04:12,461 --> 00:04:14,964 they had a director, it was a big deal. 99 00:04:14,964 --> 00:04:16,674 Got a call late that day and said, 100 00:04:16,674 --> 00:04:18,884 "You got the part, playing Steven Carrington." 101 00:04:18,884 --> 00:04:20,428 I also said, you know, "I'm rich," you know, 102 00:04:20,428 --> 00:04:22,346 because I was making, like, I don't know, 103 00:04:22,346 --> 00:04:24,265 300 bucks a week doing theater. 104 00:04:24,265 --> 00:04:26,225 It's like, wow, okay. 105 00:04:26,225 --> 00:04:29,395 I can eat better. 106 00:04:29,395 --> 00:04:32,315 They said, "We're picking you up for 13 shows. 107 00:04:32,315 --> 00:04:34,191 And we're shooting a three-hour pilot." 108 00:04:34,650 --> 00:04:36,569 It's like a three-hour pilot? 109 00:04:36,569 --> 00:04:38,070 We barely shot one-hour pilots. 110 00:04:38,863 --> 00:04:40,906 I show up, we shoot the whole thing 111 00:04:40,906 --> 00:04:43,492 with George Peppard as my father. 112 00:04:43,492 --> 00:04:45,911 [Pamela] George Peppard played my father initially. 113 00:04:45,911 --> 00:04:47,580 He wasn't getting along with the producers 114 00:04:47,580 --> 00:04:49,707 or maybe perhaps seemed sort of demanding. 115 00:04:50,416 --> 00:04:52,960 It was nuts, it was difficult. 116 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,296 It was a very odd situation. 117 00:04:55,296 --> 00:04:58,257 [Gordon] George Peppard was a pain in the ass. 118 00:04:58,257 --> 00:05:00,051 [Candy Spelling] George was not the team player. 119 00:05:00,051 --> 00:05:01,594 [John James] I introduced myself. 120 00:05:01,594 --> 00:05:02,720 He looked at me and went... 121 00:05:07,183 --> 00:05:08,976 [imitating blowing out cigarette smoke] 122 00:05:10,186 --> 00:05:11,604 That's what he said. 123 00:05:11,604 --> 00:05:13,147 And the next thing I know, 124 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:15,900 he was being replaced with John Forsythe. 125 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:18,069 You got to come back and shoot all those scenes again. 126 00:05:18,069 --> 00:05:20,154 John Forsythe was certainly well-known 127 00:05:20,154 --> 00:05:21,614 to the Spelling Company 128 00:05:21,614 --> 00:05:23,616 and was well-known to viewers 129 00:05:23,616 --> 00:05:26,243 as the voice of Charlie on Charlie's Angels. 130 00:05:26,243 --> 00:05:28,871 -Good morning, angels. -[all] Good morning, Charlie. 131 00:05:28,871 --> 00:05:31,582 And so, they had a relationship with John Forsythe, 132 00:05:31,582 --> 00:05:33,584 who is the perfect choice. 133 00:05:33,584 --> 00:05:35,544 John Forsythe, as Blake Carrington, 134 00:05:35,544 --> 00:05:38,214 brought sort of an icy steel to his character 135 00:05:38,214 --> 00:05:40,174 and was very much in command. 136 00:05:40,174 --> 00:05:41,801 You do something about it. 137 00:05:41,801 --> 00:05:43,427 And don't bother me again with this business 138 00:05:43,427 --> 00:05:44,762 until it's finished. 139 00:05:44,762 --> 00:05:47,723 Whereas Linda Evans as Krystle, 140 00:05:47,723 --> 00:05:50,142 a little more warm, a little more embracing. 141 00:05:50,142 --> 00:05:52,061 I married Blake because I love him. 142 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:55,564 And because I want to make him happy. 143 00:05:55,564 --> 00:05:58,025 And together, they just were this glamorous, 144 00:05:58,025 --> 00:06:00,986 iconic couple that you really enjoyed watching 145 00:06:00,986 --> 00:06:02,863 and seeing the yin and the yang between the two. 146 00:06:02,863 --> 00:06:05,991 I love you even more tomorrow than I did yesterday. 147 00:06:05,991 --> 00:06:07,618 I love you too, darling. 148 00:06:07,618 --> 00:06:10,496 Linda Evans is just such a lovely person. 149 00:06:10,496 --> 00:06:12,289 She had her own personality, 150 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:15,000 she had the angelic white blonde hair. 151 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,837 She practically glowed with goodness. 152 00:06:17,837 --> 00:06:19,880 We are introduced to this world 153 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,091 really through Krystle's eyes. 154 00:06:22,091 --> 00:06:24,844 She was like a young employee 155 00:06:24,844 --> 00:06:26,429 who fell in love with Blake. 156 00:06:26,429 --> 00:06:28,889 [ceremonial tone playing] 157 00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:31,434 The show begins with the marriage 158 00:06:31,434 --> 00:06:33,561 of Blake and Krystle. 159 00:06:33,561 --> 00:06:36,063 And their romance really is 160 00:06:36,063 --> 00:06:38,774 the ultimate through-line of the whole show. 161 00:06:38,774 --> 00:06:40,401 I will. 162 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:43,696 It came on in mid-season, as they called it then, 163 00:06:43,696 --> 00:06:45,406 in January of 1981. 164 00:06:45,406 --> 00:06:47,283 It was the week of the presidential 165 00:06:47,283 --> 00:06:49,034 inauguration with Reagan. 166 00:06:49,034 --> 00:06:51,370 I, Ronald Reagan, do solemnly swear 167 00:06:51,370 --> 00:06:53,497 that I will faithfully execute the office 168 00:06:53,497 --> 00:06:55,374 of President of the United States. 169 00:06:55,374 --> 00:06:58,169 [Dynasty theme song playing] 170 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:03,924 And here comes this show that is big and bold 171 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:07,011 and over-the-top and is going to end up embodying 172 00:07:07,011 --> 00:07:09,972 what we associate with Reaganism and with the '80s. 173 00:07:12,516 --> 00:07:15,186 Dynasty is very much a reflection 174 00:07:15,186 --> 00:07:17,938 of the Reagan era and conspicuous consumption 175 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:20,566 and, you know, Wall Street and Gordon Gekko. 176 00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:21,775 Read it right. 177 00:07:23,903 --> 00:07:26,322 This decade, it's called interruption, 178 00:07:26,322 --> 00:07:29,074 was probably epitomized by Dynasty. 179 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:30,451 [Jeff] I love Dynasty, 180 00:07:30,451 --> 00:07:32,161 and I am not afraid to admit that. 181 00:07:32,161 --> 00:07:33,662 I think it captured the essence 182 00:07:33,662 --> 00:07:35,831 of what the 1980s were about in America. 183 00:07:37,458 --> 00:07:39,919 [Jim] Dynasty could not have been more perfectly timed. 184 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:42,379 It was a way to just escape 185 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:45,216 into this insane world 186 00:07:45,216 --> 00:07:49,011 of conspicuous consumption and money. 187 00:07:49,011 --> 00:07:51,639 Dynasty was not a white-hot hit when it premiered. 188 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,224 It did okay, 189 00:07:53,224 --> 00:07:56,185 and ABC obviously was being patient with it. 190 00:07:56,185 --> 00:07:59,480 Number 26 in the ratings is not the worst place to be. 191 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,025 It's just not the top 20 where you're really guaranteed safe. 192 00:08:03,025 --> 00:08:06,237 I actually was on set a lot in the beginning. 193 00:08:06,237 --> 00:08:09,907 The sets on Dynasty were incredible. 194 00:08:09,907 --> 00:08:13,369 Everything had to be beautiful, opulent, 195 00:08:13,369 --> 00:08:15,621 what old Hollywood was. 196 00:08:15,621 --> 00:08:18,249 The caviar on set was generally real. 197 00:08:18,249 --> 00:08:20,459 Mm-hmm, it's excellent caviar. 198 00:08:20,459 --> 00:08:22,336 [Jack Coleman] The flowers were all real. 199 00:08:22,336 --> 00:08:23,837 They'd throw a spread on camera, 200 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:25,422 which was cracked crab, 201 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:27,341 and it would all be real, and you could eat it. 202 00:08:27,341 --> 00:08:30,094 And tiny new potatoes with sour cream and caviar. 203 00:08:30,094 --> 00:08:31,929 I was a very new director. 204 00:08:31,929 --> 00:08:33,514 I had barely directed anything. 205 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,057 I don't think I'd ever had caviar 206 00:08:35,057 --> 00:08:36,684 before I did the show. 207 00:08:36,684 --> 00:08:38,602 It was the first time I'd ever tasted caviar. 208 00:08:38,602 --> 00:08:41,146 Real crystal, real chandeliers. 209 00:08:41,146 --> 00:08:43,524 I have one of them in my house, by the way. 210 00:08:43,524 --> 00:08:45,317 Real everything. 211 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:48,571 We had, you know, Brink's people on set 212 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:52,658 with some of the diamonds and the jewels and the furs, 213 00:08:52,658 --> 00:08:56,370 and, you know, that was back when furs were real furs. 214 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:59,248 The first episode they gave me was insane 215 00:08:59,248 --> 00:09:02,001 because the episode was surrounding 216 00:09:02,001 --> 00:09:05,087 a huge birthday party for one of the kids. 217 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:10,509 And it was at a Pasadena estate, and there were literally 218 00:09:10,509 --> 00:09:14,597 maybe 200 people there, extras, jugglers, clown people, 219 00:09:14,597 --> 00:09:17,224 and I freaked out when I read the script. 220 00:09:17,224 --> 00:09:18,726 "Oh, my God, how am I gonna get this?" 221 00:09:18,726 --> 00:09:21,562 But John Forsythe came up to me, and he said, 222 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:24,273 "This is amazing, we love you, this is great." 223 00:09:24,273 --> 00:09:26,442 And I thought, "Okay, I got through day one. 224 00:09:26,442 --> 00:09:28,235 If it gets any bigger, you're going to have to rent 225 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:30,988 -the convention center downtown. -I've thought of that. 226 00:09:30,988 --> 00:09:33,407 -Or my football field. -[Krystle laughing] 227 00:09:33,407 --> 00:09:36,535 It was campy, it was fun, it was costumes. 228 00:09:36,535 --> 00:09:38,662 Can I drop you off somewhere? 229 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:41,165 No. I have a date. 230 00:09:41,165 --> 00:09:43,459 I think if you look at daytime soaps 231 00:09:43,459 --> 00:09:44,960 or nighttime soaps, 232 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,879 they all have a little camp in them. 233 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:49,131 I married you because I made a deal with the devil. 234 00:09:49,131 --> 00:09:51,634 I asked you to wear the emerald necklace tonight. 235 00:09:51,634 --> 00:09:55,012 It was a big gay thing, the gay community loved it. 236 00:09:55,012 --> 00:09:57,890 I'm trying to find myself, to sort out my life. 237 00:09:57,890 --> 00:10:00,934 The phrase used to be, "I love you." 238 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:03,854 I love Dynasty because of the dichotomy. 239 00:10:03,854 --> 00:10:06,106 Obviously, it's campy, 240 00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:08,192 it's flashy, it's fabulous, 241 00:10:08,192 --> 00:10:11,445 but it also is a very serious drama. 242 00:10:11,445 --> 00:10:13,155 Don't try to deny it, Blake Carrington. 243 00:10:13,155 --> 00:10:14,865 You had him beat up, and I know it. 244 00:10:14,865 --> 00:10:17,660 If I did or I didn't, that's no concern of yours. 245 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,703 Some of the issues that the show tackled 246 00:10:19,703 --> 00:10:22,289 were reproductive rights. 247 00:10:22,289 --> 00:10:24,083 Your abortion is set for Tuesday. 248 00:10:24,083 --> 00:10:25,918 A message I took for you. 249 00:10:25,918 --> 00:10:27,461 Pick up the phone and cancel it! 250 00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:29,129 [Derrik J. Lang] Gay rights. 251 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:32,508 I'm gay, and I want you to face it. 252 00:10:32,508 --> 00:10:36,178 We pitched some very touching subject matter. 253 00:10:36,178 --> 00:10:38,597 I didn't ever see a gay character 254 00:10:38,597 --> 00:10:40,265 on television until then. 255 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:43,018 The character of Steven was a seminal moment 256 00:10:43,018 --> 00:10:45,729 in television for gay men. 257 00:10:45,729 --> 00:10:48,899 What I am is somebody who's in love with a person. 258 00:10:48,899 --> 00:10:50,901 My interest was, 259 00:10:50,901 --> 00:10:52,277 that's something that I haven't seen, 260 00:10:52,277 --> 00:10:53,445 how am I going to do that? 261 00:10:53,445 --> 00:10:55,489 I thought it was special. 262 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:58,367 If you ever really loved me the way I loved you, 263 00:10:58,367 --> 00:10:59,618 you'll understand. 264 00:10:59,618 --> 00:11:01,370 I think that without Steven, 265 00:11:01,370 --> 00:11:02,996 without Dynasty, 266 00:11:02,996 --> 00:11:04,998 their gay representation on television 267 00:11:04,998 --> 00:11:07,751 would have definitely been slower. 268 00:11:07,751 --> 00:11:09,837 Steven is gay. 269 00:11:09,837 --> 00:11:13,424 I got a lot of fan mail from gay men 270 00:11:13,424 --> 00:11:15,759 who said, you know, 271 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,095 "When I saw your show, finally, there was a voice." 272 00:11:18,095 --> 00:11:19,763 Finally, there was someone that I could relate to." 273 00:11:19,763 --> 00:11:22,182 -Take care, buddy. -You too, buddy. 274 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:25,519 At the end of the first season, Blake Carrington 275 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:29,523 attacks Steven Carrington's male lover, 276 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:31,150 Ted Dinard. 277 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:34,278 -Get your hands off my son. -Dad, we were-- 278 00:11:34,278 --> 00:11:35,946 I said, get your hands off him! 279 00:11:37,906 --> 00:11:39,241 No, no! 280 00:11:39,241 --> 00:11:40,451 [rod clanks] 281 00:11:40,451 --> 00:11:42,619 [dramatic tone playing] 282 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,706 [Derrik] And kills him. 283 00:11:45,706 --> 00:11:46,999 You've killed him. 284 00:11:49,084 --> 00:11:52,463 The storyline of my father killing my lover... 285 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:56,925 which was accidental, or was it? 286 00:11:56,925 --> 00:11:58,635 And that's sort of the play on it. 287 00:11:58,635 --> 00:12:02,306 I think it was a way to get into a court scene. 288 00:12:02,306 --> 00:12:05,642 People of the state of Colorado versus Blake Carrington. 289 00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:08,562 Steven Carrington, my character, had to make a choice 290 00:12:08,562 --> 00:12:10,272 to defend his father 291 00:12:10,272 --> 00:12:13,817 or defend myself and my right to be gay. 292 00:12:13,817 --> 00:12:15,319 Blake's kind of the villain in that story. 293 00:12:15,319 --> 00:12:16,779 It made me confused as a viewer. 294 00:12:16,779 --> 00:12:18,363 "Wait, am I supposed to like this guy?" 295 00:12:18,363 --> 00:12:20,449 Because he's saying bad things to Steven, 296 00:12:20,449 --> 00:12:23,076 and yet he's so innately likable even when he's doing it. 297 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:27,748 They wanted me to be a J.R. in Dallas figure, 298 00:12:27,748 --> 00:12:29,500 and I was opposed to that. 299 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,502 The show needed a villain. 300 00:12:31,502 --> 00:12:34,671 Uh-oh, Blake's not bad enough. Who do we get? 301 00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,340 Your Honor, our witness has arrived. 302 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:37,966 This was going to be the villain for the '80s. 303 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:39,968 Let's find somebody really big, really good. 304 00:12:42,137 --> 00:12:44,181 The hat arrived first. 305 00:12:45,516 --> 00:12:48,519 [dramatic tone playing] 306 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,364 [whimsical tone playing] 307 00:13:01,657 --> 00:13:03,826 What's she doing here, what's going on? 308 00:13:03,826 --> 00:13:06,703 In the courtroom scene, when Alexis walks in 309 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:08,705 for the very first time, it's actually an extra. 310 00:13:09,915 --> 00:13:11,625 My God, that's my mother. 311 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:13,126 There was going to be either 312 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:14,586 Elizabeth Taylor, Sophia Loren, 313 00:13:14,586 --> 00:13:16,421 that Aaron had wanted to play Alexis. 314 00:13:16,421 --> 00:13:18,966 Sophia Loren's husband 315 00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:20,759 came to meet with me in the office. 316 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:23,053 Then he heard that we shot, like, 317 00:13:23,053 --> 00:13:25,180 eight pages a day. 318 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:27,724 He said, well, we don't do that in a week, so. 319 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:32,396 They turned it down, and it became Joan Collins. 320 00:13:34,064 --> 00:13:36,358 [Candy] I'll tell you about Joan Collins. 321 00:13:36,358 --> 00:13:38,026 The network did not want her. 322 00:13:38,026 --> 00:13:40,112 He had to fight really hard for her. 323 00:13:40,112 --> 00:13:43,156 She had done some, a few B movies. 324 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:45,409 Aaron really fought for Joan. 325 00:13:45,409 --> 00:13:48,829 You know, and Joan comes in, and is this just absolute boss, 326 00:13:48,829 --> 00:13:51,582 and I don't know that we'd ever seen the boss bitch 327 00:13:51,582 --> 00:13:54,543 done quite like that on network television. 328 00:13:54,543 --> 00:13:56,879 Would you state your full name, please? 329 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:59,047 Alexis Morell Carrington. 330 00:13:59,047 --> 00:14:00,424 You were the first wife 331 00:14:00,424 --> 00:14:02,759 of the defendant, Blake Carrington. 332 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:04,344 You're the mother of his children, is that correct? 333 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:05,596 Yes, it is. 334 00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,514 When I saw her do the first scene, 335 00:14:07,514 --> 00:14:09,099 it was just perfect. 336 00:14:09,099 --> 00:14:13,395 There were threats made. 337 00:14:13,395 --> 00:14:16,398 Something about how my children 338 00:14:16,398 --> 00:14:18,692 might not recognize me if I tried to see them. 339 00:14:18,692 --> 00:14:21,737 Joan just took that character and just ran with it. 340 00:14:21,737 --> 00:14:25,115 When I need a trump card, I'm going to play it. 341 00:14:25,115 --> 00:14:28,577 Joan just liked hurling barbs at people. 342 00:14:28,577 --> 00:14:32,164 Still the impotent boyar. 343 00:14:32,164 --> 00:14:33,999 Verbal assaults. 344 00:14:33,999 --> 00:14:36,084 You double-crossing scum. 345 00:14:36,084 --> 00:14:38,086 She was absolutely brilliant at it. 346 00:14:38,086 --> 00:14:40,923 -You bitch! -Shh! 347 00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:42,799 You're beginning to sound more and more like a fishwife. 348 00:14:45,636 --> 00:14:47,512 The whole idea 349 00:14:47,512 --> 00:14:50,098 of bringing Joan Collins in with that accent. 350 00:14:50,098 --> 00:14:52,684 There are two Mrs. Colbys now, you know. 351 00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:55,854 The way she wore clothes and that feeling she had, 352 00:14:55,854 --> 00:14:57,606 it was just perfect casting. 353 00:14:57,606 --> 00:15:00,317 You're even more beautiful and more ugly 354 00:15:00,317 --> 00:15:03,153 than that grand English lady I vaguely remember. 355 00:15:03,153 --> 00:15:06,573 Joan Collins obviously added a huge element to Dynasty 356 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,450 once she arrived and became 357 00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:10,661 one of the best villains in television history. 358 00:15:11,203 --> 00:15:14,498 I'm glad to see that your father had your teeth fixed, 359 00:15:14,498 --> 00:15:16,750 if not your tongue. 360 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:18,001 And she played my real mother. 361 00:15:18,001 --> 00:15:22,005 -Hello, Stephen. -Hello. 362 00:15:22,005 --> 00:15:23,548 Who is that person? 363 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:25,425 Who is that character? Who is that actress? 364 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,010 People always went, "What's Joan Collins, 365 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:29,554 is she really a bitch?" No, she's not. 366 00:15:29,554 --> 00:15:33,475 She can be, but she's fundamentally not. 367 00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:36,186 Soap operas have to cheat their storytelling so often 368 00:15:36,186 --> 00:15:38,105 because if you want to cast an actor, 369 00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:39,940 a hot young actor, well, who's that actor going to play? 370 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:41,274 A long-lost child. 371 00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:44,277 You're my son. 372 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:46,905 [Gordon] I remember doing my screen test, 373 00:15:46,905 --> 00:15:50,492 and she had just emerged from the stage door. 374 00:15:50,492 --> 00:15:52,411 "Hello, Miss Collins, I'm Gordon Thompson." 375 00:15:52,411 --> 00:15:55,205 Thinking back on it, it's astonishing 376 00:15:55,205 --> 00:15:58,542 that one of the enormous stars of this 377 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:02,129 now very successful show, series, 378 00:16:02,129 --> 00:16:04,464 was going to do a screen test 379 00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:06,508 with a complete unknown. 380 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:08,969 One of my lines was... 381 00:16:08,969 --> 00:16:10,345 My real name... 382 00:16:11,638 --> 00:16:15,308 is Adam Alexander Carrington. 383 00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:17,227 It was an enormous treat. 384 00:16:17,227 --> 00:16:20,230 So you'd think I would know that "You got the job." 385 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:22,566 It went very well. 386 00:16:22,566 --> 00:16:23,942 It's a welcome home gift, darling. 387 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:27,988 [Mark Zunino] When I started, I was really a gopher. 388 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:29,698 I was terrified of Joan. 389 00:16:29,698 --> 00:16:31,742 Before I had even met her, I was told 390 00:16:31,742 --> 00:16:33,910 to go in her dressing room with sketches, 391 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:35,495 sitting in her dressing room, 392 00:16:35,495 --> 00:16:39,541 and she came off set, not in the best of moods, 393 00:16:39,541 --> 00:16:42,544 and I was there, and she turned around, 394 00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:44,755 and she started screaming, and I'm trying to tell her, 395 00:16:44,755 --> 00:16:46,173 "I'm here to show you sketches," 396 00:16:46,173 --> 00:16:47,924 but she kept screaming and screaming. 397 00:16:47,924 --> 00:16:49,426 All of a sudden, the door flew open, 398 00:16:49,426 --> 00:16:51,303 and it was Heather Locklear, and I said, 399 00:16:51,303 --> 00:16:53,430 "I'm here to see Joan and show her sketches," 400 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:54,973 and she said, "Honey, Joan's not here today, 401 00:16:54,973 --> 00:16:56,892 it's only Alexis." 402 00:16:56,892 --> 00:16:58,393 You don't love Joan. 403 00:16:58,393 --> 00:17:00,562 You're kind of a little afraid of Joan, 404 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:02,105 but you're fascinated by Joan. 405 00:17:03,023 --> 00:17:05,984 Dynasty was not a huge hit until Alexis showed up. 406 00:17:05,984 --> 00:17:07,569 I do as I please. 407 00:17:07,569 --> 00:17:09,237 I always have, and I always will. 408 00:17:09,237 --> 00:17:11,364 It was interesting to see it suddenly go, 409 00:17:11,364 --> 00:17:13,909 you know what, we've kind of found our lane here, 410 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:16,244 and our lane is not kitchen sink drama. 411 00:17:16,244 --> 00:17:18,080 It's opera. 412 00:17:19,289 --> 00:17:20,791 [Alexis grunts] 413 00:17:23,585 --> 00:17:25,837 If you want a rematch, just whistle. 414 00:17:25,837 --> 00:17:27,506 We have to talk about 415 00:17:27,506 --> 00:17:30,425 Alexis and Krystle's big cat fight 416 00:17:30,425 --> 00:17:33,261 that went right into the lily pond. 417 00:17:33,261 --> 00:17:35,806 Oh, you miserable bitch! 418 00:17:35,806 --> 00:17:39,142 [dramatic tone playing] 419 00:17:39,142 --> 00:17:40,852 Once Dynasty established 420 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:43,230 that there would be physical cat fights between women, 421 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:45,690 that was something audiences were tuning in for. 422 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,609 Will this week be one of the weeks where they, you know, 423 00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:49,611 Alexis and Krystle dive into the lily pond? 424 00:17:49,611 --> 00:17:50,946 Oh, no, no. 425 00:17:53,031 --> 00:17:55,492 They were wet constantly, like drenched, 426 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:57,202 and I know it wasn't easy for them, 427 00:17:57,202 --> 00:17:59,287 but watching it was just so much fun. 428 00:17:59,287 --> 00:18:02,707 Linda was very physical and loved fighting, 429 00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:04,126 and Joan was not. 430 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:08,004 With the cat fights, I think they were like a drug, 431 00:18:08,004 --> 00:18:11,133 and next week's cat fight has to be that much crazier. 432 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:13,426 You have to up the dosage of that drug for the audience 433 00:18:13,426 --> 00:18:15,595 to make it stand out. 434 00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:21,226 There were many cat fights on Dynasty. 435 00:18:21,226 --> 00:18:22,477 I did one of them. 436 00:18:22,477 --> 00:18:25,564 They went down a muddy hill 437 00:18:25,564 --> 00:18:27,566 and then fought in mud. 438 00:18:27,566 --> 00:18:30,026 You stupid bitch! 439 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,945 Look what you've done to this outfit! 440 00:18:31,945 --> 00:18:33,697 A lot of people that watched the show, 441 00:18:33,697 --> 00:18:35,866 and knowing that there were Chanel suits, 442 00:18:35,866 --> 00:18:39,077 there was Nolan Miller suits, there were dresses, 443 00:18:39,077 --> 00:18:41,454 but we never, never, ever 444 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,623 put a Nolan Miller suit in mud. 445 00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:47,586 So rest assured, yes, the suits were safe. 446 00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:57,304 I'd rather concentrate on your outfit. 447 00:18:57,304 --> 00:18:59,639 It's rather becoming. 448 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:01,558 Nolan Miller was one of, really, 449 00:19:01,558 --> 00:19:03,226 one of the superstars of Dynasty, 450 00:19:03,226 --> 00:19:05,937 whether people knew his name at the time or not. 451 00:19:05,937 --> 00:19:10,025 Nolan Miller had come to Hollywood in the '50s. 452 00:19:10,025 --> 00:19:12,694 The most auspicious thing that happened to him 453 00:19:12,694 --> 00:19:14,654 and happened to Aaron Spelling is that they met each other, 454 00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:16,406 and they formed this partnership. 455 00:19:16,406 --> 00:19:19,868 His dream was to be a couturier, and so I said, 456 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,369 "Well, if I ever get a show, 457 00:19:21,369 --> 00:19:22,704 we'll do some costumes together." 458 00:19:22,704 --> 00:19:24,956 Nolan and Aaron's first big, 459 00:19:24,956 --> 00:19:27,167 successful collaboration was The Love Boat. 460 00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:29,586 It was an excuse for Nolan 461 00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:31,504 to really swing for the fences 462 00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:34,549 and really design his dream gowns, 463 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:37,427 and so, by the time Dynasty came around in 1981, 464 00:19:37,427 --> 00:19:39,387 The Love Boat had been on for three seasons. 465 00:19:39,387 --> 00:19:43,266 They were revving at top gear right from the start of Dynasty. 466 00:19:44,434 --> 00:19:47,646 When I first started with Nolan, it was crazy 467 00:19:47,646 --> 00:19:50,857 because nobody ever gave a budget. 468 00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:54,694 When I went fabric shopping or sourcing things, 469 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:56,571 you know, do I have a limit 470 00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:57,948 of how much I can spend, no. 471 00:19:57,948 --> 00:19:59,324 The budget started out, 472 00:19:59,324 --> 00:20:00,450 when I first was there, 473 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,244 at $15,000 a week, 474 00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:04,537 and then, I was always over budget, 475 00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:06,665 and it was a problem, and Aaron talked to me, 476 00:20:06,665 --> 00:20:09,000 so he raised it to $25,000 a week. 477 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,920 You don't care what they spend, it's a dream come true. 478 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,797 You come in, and they've got the finest everything 479 00:20:13,797 --> 00:20:16,007 for you to choose what you want to wear. 480 00:20:16,007 --> 00:20:18,718 Aaron, he was a master at detail. 481 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,304 If an extra walked by and had the same color on 482 00:20:21,304 --> 00:20:22,681 as one of the principals, 483 00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:26,101 he absolutely would have to reshoot this. 484 00:20:26,101 --> 00:20:27,519 There's been no show 485 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:30,188 that I did before, during, or after 486 00:20:30,188 --> 00:20:33,733 that has ever had a budget like that for a wardrobe. 487 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:37,487 The clothes literally became one of the stars of the show. 488 00:20:37,487 --> 00:20:40,615 [dynamic music playing] 489 00:20:40,615 --> 00:20:43,118 [Jim] The '80s happened to be an explosion of fashion 490 00:20:43,118 --> 00:20:46,538 that Dynasty helped happen with those Nolan Miller designs. 491 00:20:46,538 --> 00:20:49,249 The shoulder pads and the hair got bigger and bigger and bigger 492 00:20:49,249 --> 00:20:50,709 as they tried to outdo themselves 493 00:20:50,709 --> 00:20:52,210 and be more and more glam 494 00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:54,129 and more and more aspirational. 495 00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:58,008 They were couture, real haute couture. 496 00:20:58,008 --> 00:21:00,260 I salivated over those clothes. 497 00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:02,804 The clothes were sensational. 498 00:21:02,804 --> 00:21:06,391 [indistinct] was so damn glamorous. [laughs] 499 00:21:06,391 --> 00:21:08,643 One of the fascinations about Dynasty 500 00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:10,353 that causes millions of people 501 00:21:10,353 --> 00:21:13,064 to watch every week is the fashion. 502 00:21:13,064 --> 00:21:15,191 [Mark] In the whole running of the show, 503 00:21:15,191 --> 00:21:18,069 the clothing were the only thing that actually won an Emmy. 504 00:21:18,069 --> 00:21:19,738 No actor ever won an Emmy, 505 00:21:19,738 --> 00:21:22,407 but Nolan won an Emmy for wardrobe. 506 00:21:22,407 --> 00:21:25,410 If you think about it, the cast of Dynasty 507 00:21:25,410 --> 00:21:27,579 were basically influencers. 508 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:30,165 [woman] They'll be able to dress like the characters of Dynasty, 509 00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:31,750 smell like the characters of Dynasty, 510 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:33,668 and make their homes look like it. 511 00:21:33,668 --> 00:21:35,003 [announcer] Dynasty star Joan Collins 512 00:21:35,003 --> 00:21:36,546 has her own jewelry collection. 513 00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:39,883 Nolan was asked numerously 514 00:21:39,883 --> 00:21:42,886 to create retail fashion lines. 515 00:21:42,886 --> 00:21:44,554 [announcer] After the show began, 516 00:21:44,554 --> 00:21:46,264 Miller started receiving thousands of letters 517 00:21:46,264 --> 00:21:47,849 asking where viewers could buy 518 00:21:47,849 --> 00:21:50,018 the same kind of clothes on the show. 519 00:21:50,018 --> 00:21:53,146 He finally recreated a line for Bloomingdale's, 520 00:21:53,146 --> 00:21:55,106 which was epic. 521 00:21:56,983 --> 00:21:59,611 [announcer] He made 101 classic outfits 522 00:21:59,611 --> 00:22:03,198 from the hit series available to high fashion fans everywhere. 523 00:22:03,198 --> 00:22:05,825 [Mark] It was chaos at the store 524 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:06,993 when they debuted the collection. 525 00:22:06,993 --> 00:22:08,453 The characters, 526 00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:10,205 they had all shown up, all the actors. 527 00:22:10,205 --> 00:22:11,873 It really was something. 528 00:22:11,873 --> 00:22:13,416 I really think that Dynasty got it right 529 00:22:13,416 --> 00:22:16,461 in that it embraced the femaleness of it all. 530 00:22:16,461 --> 00:22:18,046 They wisely knew who their audience was 531 00:22:18,046 --> 00:22:19,464 and who was watching. 532 00:22:19,464 --> 00:22:20,590 [Al] The role of women on Dynasty 533 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:22,092 was an important issue. 534 00:22:22,092 --> 00:22:24,052 Almost from the beginning, they looked great 535 00:22:24,052 --> 00:22:25,720 and they dressed great. 536 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,890 They weren't in the kitchen 537 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:31,643 or taking the kids to school or taking them to soccer games. 538 00:22:32,477 --> 00:22:35,939 It wasn't really until Dynasty that we had seen women 539 00:22:35,939 --> 00:22:37,982 in very powerful roles 540 00:22:37,982 --> 00:22:40,568 as CEOs of companies. 541 00:22:40,568 --> 00:22:42,529 If I do not get that approval, 542 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:44,781 I shall fire you all on the spot. 543 00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:47,283 Don't think that just because Blake Carrington isn't here 544 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:48,827 that I won't be keeping an eye on you. 545 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:50,787 Every one of you. 546 00:22:50,787 --> 00:22:52,539 You are now working for me. 547 00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:54,416 I suppose they call it a bitch because it's a woman. 548 00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:56,251 If it was a man, they would call it 549 00:22:56,251 --> 00:22:59,879 a very dedicated career person who's strong and forceful. 550 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:02,048 But because it's a woman, they call her a bitch. 551 00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:04,008 What do you want, Miss Deveraux? 552 00:23:04,008 --> 00:23:06,344 For now, not much really. 553 00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:08,221 When Diahann Carroll joined Dynasty 554 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:09,556 as Dominique Deveraux... 555 00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:11,724 From now on, every deal you make, 556 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:13,143 every step you take, 557 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:14,936 turn and look over your shoulder 558 00:23:14,936 --> 00:23:18,982 because sooner or later, I will be standing there. 559 00:23:18,982 --> 00:23:21,192 She broke the glass ceiling to some degree 560 00:23:21,192 --> 00:23:25,071 in representation especially of Black wealth and opulence. 561 00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:26,531 You're suing me. 562 00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:28,450 Exactly. 563 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:31,202 And bringing a whole new level of storytelling to Dynasty 564 00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:32,954 that we hadn't seen before 565 00:23:32,954 --> 00:23:35,123 on that show or, really, in television. 566 00:23:35,123 --> 00:23:37,750 Women are interested in seeing women look beautiful 567 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,294 and be powerful and be smart. 568 00:23:39,294 --> 00:23:41,713 Joan was the first woman at age 50 569 00:23:41,713 --> 00:23:44,299 that was put on the cover of Playboy magazine. 570 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:46,050 Hugh Hefner approached her. 571 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:49,429 She nervously said yes, did it, 572 00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:53,475 and so, it really was a new chapter for women. 573 00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:56,519 And it was about a whole resurgence of beautiful women. 574 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,022 [announcer] Joan Collins is one of the most photographed 575 00:23:59,022 --> 00:24:00,857 and written about people in the world. 576 00:24:00,857 --> 00:24:04,319 [Michael] It really morphed into a cultural phenomenon. 577 00:24:05,361 --> 00:24:06,571 [Catherine Oxenberg] We loved the fact that 578 00:24:06,571 --> 00:24:08,072 we were on the magazine covers 579 00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:10,158 and everybody was talking about the show 580 00:24:10,158 --> 00:24:12,202 and that we felt we were invincible. 581 00:24:12,202 --> 00:24:14,787 100 million people a week globally watched the show. 582 00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:16,748 The visibility was huge. 583 00:24:16,748 --> 00:24:18,833 [Michael] The world was Dynasty mad. 584 00:24:18,833 --> 00:24:21,586 Dynasty and Dallas became era-defining hits 585 00:24:21,586 --> 00:24:23,546 and were alternating with, you know, 586 00:24:23,546 --> 00:24:25,507 who could be number one and who could be number two 587 00:24:25,507 --> 00:24:27,175 in the primetime lineup. 588 00:24:27,175 --> 00:24:29,177 [announcer] ABC's soap opera Dynasty finished 589 00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:31,137 on top of the Nielsen ratings last week. 590 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,431 Nobody ever dreamt, I think, in their wildest dreams 591 00:24:33,431 --> 00:24:35,016 it was going to be as successful. 592 00:24:35,016 --> 00:24:37,310 -Dynasty! -Dynasty. 593 00:24:38,394 --> 00:24:40,438 Thank you very much. 594 00:24:40,438 --> 00:24:43,316 I want to thank Sophia Loren for turning down the part. 595 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:46,152 [audience applauding] 596 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:49,280 -And thank you very much indeed. -Very, very grateful. 597 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,990 The parties they threw got fancier. 598 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:53,284 The hair got bigger, the shoulder pads got bigger, 599 00:24:53,284 --> 00:24:54,744 the cars got fancier. 600 00:24:54,744 --> 00:24:56,996 [reporter] Up over the mountain to Encino, 601 00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:59,415 to the hot club where a big party was going on. 602 00:24:59,415 --> 00:25:03,253 They had Dynasty parties on the night that Dynasty showed 603 00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:06,798 and they'd all watch it together and scream at the same scenes. 604 00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:08,675 What gave you the idea to throw the party? 605 00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:11,344 There was this whole kind of thing going on in America 606 00:25:11,344 --> 00:25:13,972 of everybody having Dynasty parties on Wednesday night. 607 00:25:13,972 --> 00:25:16,266 You know, if so-and-so says a certain line, 608 00:25:16,266 --> 00:25:18,226 you know, you got to chug a beer. 609 00:25:18,226 --> 00:25:20,603 Everybody sort of got into this sort of Dynasty fever 610 00:25:20,603 --> 00:25:22,855 and we would all go to gay bars 611 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:25,066 in West Hollywood the night of the show, 612 00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:26,901 and it was great 613 00:25:26,901 --> 00:25:30,363 because we sort of saw it with the fans. 614 00:25:30,905 --> 00:25:32,824 I think one of the downsides 615 00:25:32,824 --> 00:25:35,159 of Dynasty becoming a huge success 616 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:37,453 is that there was a lot more pressure on the show 617 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:39,747 to become more mainstream and shy away 618 00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:41,833 from some of the more controversial storylines, 619 00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:44,127 and as a result, they pulled back quite a bit 620 00:25:44,127 --> 00:25:46,212 from some of those storylines 621 00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:48,381 that were real landmarks of Dynasty early on. 622 00:25:56,639 --> 00:25:58,558 Where would you like me to put the money? 623 00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,185 Come on, don't tell me this is your first time with a hooker. 624 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:02,854 No, it wasn't. 625 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:06,357 It's interesting, the early episodes of Dynasty, 626 00:26:06,357 --> 00:26:07,567 they were a lot grittier. 627 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,193 I wanted you to be a man. 628 00:26:09,193 --> 00:26:12,530 I am a man, just not your kind. 629 00:26:12,530 --> 00:26:15,199 Dynasty became a bit of a different show. 630 00:26:15,199 --> 00:26:17,160 It was less about business, 631 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,162 it was less about the gritty storylines. 632 00:26:19,162 --> 00:26:20,496 Behind the scenes, 633 00:26:20,496 --> 00:26:23,583 there was always a lot of discussion 634 00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:26,085 about how gay Steven could be. 635 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:29,922 They had a hard time, for whatever reason, 636 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:33,509 committing to Steven just being completely gay. 637 00:26:33,509 --> 00:26:35,511 You said to me that it made you sick, 638 00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:37,055 me putting my hands on another man. 639 00:26:37,055 --> 00:26:38,931 Okay, I'm putting them on women. 640 00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:43,019 I remember being on the set, across the table in the scene 641 00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:44,771 with my gay lover, 642 00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:47,398 and I reached over 643 00:26:47,398 --> 00:26:49,233 and I was going to just put my hand 644 00:26:49,233 --> 00:26:50,652 on his hand in the scene. 645 00:26:51,694 --> 00:26:53,071 And someone from ABC came over and said, 646 00:26:53,071 --> 00:26:54,197 "You can't do that." 647 00:26:54,197 --> 00:26:55,365 I said, "What do you mean?" 648 00:26:55,365 --> 00:26:57,867 And by the way, 649 00:26:57,867 --> 00:26:59,869 "If you're going to hug him, 650 00:26:59,869 --> 00:27:03,331 you have to either be saying goodbye or hello." 651 00:27:03,331 --> 00:27:04,707 That was surprising to me, 652 00:27:04,707 --> 00:27:06,042 it caught me off guard as an actor. 653 00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,878 -Hi. -Hi. 654 00:27:08,878 --> 00:27:12,465 How do you have an out gay character 655 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:16,344 who can only maybe, like, touch and hug his partners? 656 00:27:16,344 --> 00:27:18,846 So, they started exploring 657 00:27:18,846 --> 00:27:21,182 his relationships with other characters, 658 00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:23,059 specifically female characters. 659 00:27:23,059 --> 00:27:26,104 I'm Sammy Jo Dean, Krystle Carrington's niece. 660 00:27:26,104 --> 00:27:27,897 They decided to make him bisexual, 661 00:27:27,897 --> 00:27:30,233 and they made him, he got married to Sammy Jo, 662 00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:32,068 Heather Locklear. 663 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,196 You missed a really big opportunity here. 664 00:27:35,196 --> 00:27:37,532 Now it's like he's gay, he's not gay, 665 00:27:37,532 --> 00:27:41,202 you know, and it's redundant as an actor. 666 00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:42,745 If you're not willing to go in 667 00:27:42,745 --> 00:27:44,539 and go a little bit below the surface, 668 00:27:44,539 --> 00:27:46,124 even in a soap opera, 669 00:27:46,124 --> 00:27:47,834 what's the point of the character? 670 00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:50,753 So I was really disappointed, to be quite honest. 671 00:27:50,753 --> 00:27:53,172 When I showed my unhappiness 672 00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:55,174 with where the character was going, 673 00:27:55,174 --> 00:27:58,678 and I think they just said, you know, "Okay, well, fine." 674 00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:00,805 I said, "Okay, fine," that was it. 675 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:04,642 He didn't appreciate that, didn't think it was right, 676 00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:08,187 and as a result, ultimately, left the show. 677 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,148 [announcer] Steven was first played by Al Corley, 678 00:28:10,148 --> 00:28:12,024 but when the actor complained about the show, 679 00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:14,569 he was killed off, then brought back by Jack Coleman. 680 00:28:14,569 --> 00:28:16,237 Good evening, Ben. 681 00:28:16,237 --> 00:28:19,073 You are trying to visualize what you will look like? 682 00:28:19,073 --> 00:28:22,577 I was on the phone with my mother, 683 00:28:22,577 --> 00:28:24,746 and all of a sudden, 684 00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:27,290 the operator came in, said, 685 00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:31,294 "We have an emergency phone call from Howard Goldberg, my agent," 686 00:28:31,294 --> 00:28:32,962 and he said, "You got it." 687 00:28:38,384 --> 00:28:42,388 He was on that unfortunate rig in the China Sea 688 00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:43,681 where there's the explosion, 689 00:28:43,681 --> 00:28:46,642 and Steven went from Al to me. 690 00:28:46,642 --> 00:28:48,019 Are you ready for a look? 691 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:52,148 Thank you, Dr. Chen, 692 00:28:52,148 --> 00:28:54,692 for giving me a face I'll be able to live with. 693 00:28:54,692 --> 00:28:58,070 As you do, you survive an oil rig fire, 694 00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:59,989 and you come back with a new face. 695 00:28:59,989 --> 00:29:02,366 The immaculate surgery, 696 00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:05,119 and facial reconstruction without a scar, 697 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:07,413 and perfectly coiffed hair, I might add. 698 00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:09,081 Steven! 699 00:29:10,124 --> 00:29:12,627 That was maybe one of the most Dynasty things 700 00:29:12,627 --> 00:29:14,045 of all Dynasty things. 701 00:29:14,045 --> 00:29:16,297 You know, I thought it was pretty silly, 702 00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:18,090 but under the circumstances, 703 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:21,302 the character was popular in certain areas, 704 00:29:21,302 --> 00:29:22,804 so they really couldn't kill him off. 705 00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:25,640 What did end up happening with Steven is he did end up 706 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,185 getting watered down, and I can't imagine 707 00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:31,437 that it was not the case that the timing 708 00:29:31,437 --> 00:29:34,023 of the HIV-AIDS epidemic had a lot to do with it. 709 00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:36,567 A mystery disease known as "The Gay Plague" 710 00:29:36,567 --> 00:29:38,194 has become an epidemic unprecedented 711 00:29:38,194 --> 00:29:40,404 in the history of American medicine. 712 00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:42,990 The first reports I ever saw, and I think that ever aired, 713 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:44,909 about something that was then called GRID, 714 00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:47,870 gay-related immunodeficiency, were in 1981. 715 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:49,539 [announcer] When AIDS was first discovered 716 00:29:49,539 --> 00:29:50,998 more than two years ago, 717 00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:53,668 it was sometimes called "The Gay Plague". 718 00:29:53,668 --> 00:29:57,046 That's because virtually all of the victims were homosexual. 719 00:29:57,046 --> 00:29:59,090 GRID became named HIV-AIDS. 720 00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:00,716 [reporter] It appeared a year ago 721 00:30:00,716 --> 00:30:02,510 in New York's gay community. 722 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:04,971 [Jim] Suddenly, gay sex was dangerous. 723 00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:07,765 Gay romance led to something dangerous, 724 00:30:07,765 --> 00:30:10,351 and we had to pull back, we were all afraid. 725 00:30:10,351 --> 00:30:12,645 [announcer] 70% of its victims are gay men. 726 00:30:12,645 --> 00:30:14,313 [announcer 2] The deadly disease has been mostly striking 727 00:30:14,313 --> 00:30:15,940 homosexual men. 728 00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:18,526 Thousands of people in this country have AIDS. 729 00:30:18,526 --> 00:30:21,946 This is not a political issue, this is a health issue. 730 00:30:21,946 --> 00:30:24,490 This is not a gay issue, this is a human issue. 731 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:27,618 The irony is that Dynasty would eventually be at the heart 732 00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:30,955 of that controversy of HIV-AIDS with its Rock Hudson storyline. 733 00:30:32,081 --> 00:30:34,250 Rock Hudson was cast on the show, 734 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:37,086 and it was in the middle of AIDS. 735 00:30:37,086 --> 00:30:38,629 I have a rule. 736 00:30:38,629 --> 00:30:41,007 I never go after anything that can't be taken. 737 00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:44,302 Does that rule hold only for companies, 738 00:30:44,302 --> 00:30:46,846 or does it apply to wives as well? 739 00:30:47,763 --> 00:30:50,224 Rock came on the set, and first of all, 740 00:30:50,224 --> 00:30:52,268 I was thrilled to be working with him. 741 00:30:52,268 --> 00:30:54,604 He was sick at the time, 742 00:30:54,604 --> 00:30:57,356 and I felt very bad. 743 00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:58,816 He was very thin. 744 00:30:58,816 --> 00:31:01,694 We certainly knew early on in the show 745 00:31:01,694 --> 00:31:03,696 that something was not right with him, 746 00:31:03,696 --> 00:31:06,949 and he was very weak and very gaunt and pale. 747 00:31:07,658 --> 00:31:09,201 [Michael] In Dynasty, there were scenes 748 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:10,703 where Rock Hudson's character 749 00:31:10,703 --> 00:31:13,706 kisses Krystle, Linda Evans' character. 750 00:31:13,706 --> 00:31:17,043 I don't think Rock Hudson had come out as gay 751 00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,045 or that he had AIDS at the time. 752 00:31:19,837 --> 00:31:23,257 Mr. Rock Hudson had acquired 753 00:31:23,257 --> 00:31:27,136 immune deficiency syndrome, 754 00:31:27,136 --> 00:31:31,307 which was diagnosed over a year ago. 755 00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:35,353 We were told by a lot of medical people 756 00:31:35,353 --> 00:31:39,440 that AIDS could be transmitted that way by kissing, 757 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,485 and I was just so scared for Linda. 758 00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:45,696 When it came out that Rock Hudson, you know, 759 00:31:45,696 --> 00:31:49,367 had AIDS and that he had kissed Linda Evans on Dynasty... 760 00:31:51,619 --> 00:31:54,455 I think everybody wondered why he would do that. 761 00:32:02,463 --> 00:32:05,424 In those days, no one knew a damn thing 762 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:07,385 about AIDS, and it was panic time. 763 00:32:07,385 --> 00:32:10,179 I don't sense a feeling of panic on the soundstage, 764 00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:12,223 but I think it's very frightening 765 00:32:12,223 --> 00:32:13,808 how people are taking this. 766 00:32:13,808 --> 00:32:15,810 The way she handled it in the press was 767 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:17,937 the way she handled it in private, 768 00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:19,647 and she just said, "I'm not worried about that." 769 00:32:19,647 --> 00:32:21,774 Linda Evans was an enormously good sport about it. 770 00:32:21,774 --> 00:32:23,234 She took his side. 771 00:32:23,234 --> 00:32:25,695 I think she was incredibly courageous 772 00:32:25,695 --> 00:32:28,447 in showing the world how to be-- I'm tearing up, 773 00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:30,658 in how to be gracious about this disease 774 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:34,412 and not be freaked out and not blame or stigmatize 775 00:32:34,412 --> 00:32:36,163 someone who had the disease. 776 00:32:36,163 --> 00:32:38,124 [announcer] As for Rock, his role on Dynasty 777 00:32:38,124 --> 00:32:40,084 would prove to be his last. 778 00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:42,628 He returned home from Paris, and in a matter of weeks, 779 00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:46,465 the one-time robust and powerful screen legend was gone. 780 00:32:46,465 --> 00:32:51,303 I just recently realized that he died 781 00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:54,348 the same year that he was working on our show. 782 00:32:54,348 --> 00:32:56,267 I think it was really important. 783 00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:59,645 We were hobnobbing with high-ranking members 784 00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:01,397 of the Republican Party in a way that... 785 00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:05,860 you know, it couldn't be ignored. 786 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,196 You know, Ronald Reagan didn't mention the word AIDS 787 00:33:09,196 --> 00:33:12,074 until I think year seven of his eight years in office. 788 00:33:12,074 --> 00:33:16,037 We will, I will, do all that God gives us the power to do 789 00:33:16,037 --> 00:33:18,289 to find a cure for AIDS. 790 00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:22,293 In a way, it actually educated the public a little bit more 791 00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:25,046 and brought this conversation to the forefront 792 00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:27,548 as people were just learning what it meant to 793 00:33:27,548 --> 00:33:31,552 both be HIV-positive and also be contracted with AIDS. 794 00:33:31,552 --> 00:33:35,639 I'm very proud of the work that Dynasty accidentally did 795 00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:37,391 on the HIV-AIDS front. 796 00:33:37,391 --> 00:33:40,478 I'm worried about you being out in that kind of a world. 797 00:33:41,395 --> 00:33:42,897 You are talking about AIDS, right? 798 00:33:42,897 --> 00:33:45,524 I'm talking about a disease that kills. 799 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:48,569 Dad, I'm as aware of the problem as you are. 800 00:33:48,569 --> 00:33:51,530 Dynasty stayed on top for as many years as it did 801 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:53,574 by being bigger, bolder, brasher. 802 00:33:53,574 --> 00:33:56,744 [dramatic tone playing] 803 00:33:56,744 --> 00:33:58,079 Oh, my God! 804 00:33:59,288 --> 00:34:01,373 It was strange, it was almost like 805 00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:04,210 as it started climbing into this great success, 806 00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,670 it became a campy version of itself. 807 00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:09,006 So, a storyline that might have played out 808 00:34:09,006 --> 00:34:11,175 in season one, is going to be amped up 809 00:34:11,175 --> 00:34:13,219 if you're doing anything like it in season six. 810 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:14,762 I knew her. 811 00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:19,308 It was totally over the top, and it knew it. 812 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,896 Earnest in its over-the-top-ness. 813 00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:24,980 Bitch! 814 00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:28,818 My favourite example of this, 815 00:34:28,818 --> 00:34:30,486 I think it was called "The Royal Wedding". 816 00:34:30,486 --> 00:34:33,155 Sun will shine on a happy bride after all. 817 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:38,202 Amanda Carrington, brilliantly played by Catherine Oxenberg, 818 00:34:38,202 --> 00:34:41,038 she's getting married to the Prince of Moldavia. 819 00:34:42,748 --> 00:34:45,793 There is apparently unrest in the kingdom, 820 00:34:45,793 --> 00:34:49,130 and there are terrorists who want to take down the monarchy, 821 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,758 and what better place to do that but at Amanda's wedding? 822 00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:56,262 -I thee wed. -Let us pray in peace. 823 00:34:56,262 --> 00:34:58,222 [gunshots booming] 824 00:34:58,222 --> 00:34:59,849 -[guests screaming] -Protect the King! 825 00:34:59,849 --> 00:35:01,350 Amanda! 826 00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:04,395 [indistinct] 827 00:35:04,395 --> 00:35:07,231 "Who Shot J.R." had been done five years earlier 828 00:35:07,231 --> 00:35:08,691 and was celebrated 829 00:35:08,691 --> 00:35:11,152 as one of the great stunts of all time. 830 00:35:11,152 --> 00:35:14,238 [gunshots booming] 831 00:35:19,243 --> 00:35:21,745 So "Who Shot J.R." had been a brilliant moment 832 00:35:21,745 --> 00:35:23,622 in American television. 833 00:35:23,622 --> 00:35:25,082 [gunshots booming] 834 00:35:25,082 --> 00:35:27,251 Dynasty, we'll top that. 835 00:35:27,251 --> 00:35:28,836 We're going to end the season 836 00:35:28,836 --> 00:35:32,131 with who shot the entire cast of Dynasty. 837 00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:34,133 Take that, Dallas. 838 00:35:34,133 --> 00:35:36,677 There is almost a pyramid-like 839 00:35:36,677 --> 00:35:38,429 pile of carnage. 840 00:35:38,429 --> 00:35:40,264 And of course, the next season, 841 00:35:40,264 --> 00:35:42,474 most of them get up and do one of these things. 842 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:44,560 No, my wife and my family are in there. 843 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,686 I've got to get in there. 844 00:35:45,686 --> 00:35:48,564 So, lazy, pulling fast one, 845 00:35:48,564 --> 00:35:52,234 cheating, all horrible things they do to the audience. 846 00:35:52,234 --> 00:35:55,362 But it was so much fun while it lasted. 847 00:35:56,197 --> 00:35:59,074 The scripts on Dynasty, generally speaking, 848 00:35:59,074 --> 00:36:00,951 left something to be desired. 849 00:36:00,951 --> 00:36:03,829 Like, Moldavia? Where is Aaron Spelling? 850 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:08,584 He's this wonderful producer, and he let all this crap happen? 851 00:36:08,584 --> 00:36:11,795 A friend of mine who was an associate producer 852 00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:15,299 wasn't allowed to say it, but she told me. 853 00:36:15,299 --> 00:36:17,092 At the writers' meeting, 854 00:36:17,092 --> 00:36:19,136 Esther and her husband Richard Shapiro, 855 00:36:19,136 --> 00:36:21,847 who invented the show, writers' meeting, 856 00:36:21,847 --> 00:36:23,224 Esther shows up. 857 00:36:23,224 --> 00:36:25,726 "First person who laughs is fired. 858 00:36:25,726 --> 00:36:28,354 'Richard has had a vision. 859 00:36:28,354 --> 00:36:29,813 "Aliens." 860 00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:33,275 [cosmic tone playing] 861 00:36:33,275 --> 00:36:34,526 Aliens! 862 00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,654 [Gordon] What a load of [bleep]. 863 00:36:36,654 --> 00:36:39,365 Pardon me, pure [bleep]. 864 00:36:39,365 --> 00:36:41,533 The idea was ludicrous and laughable. 865 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,827 I was going crazy with some of those scripts 866 00:36:43,827 --> 00:36:45,079 and with some of those plot lines. 867 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,538 I just thought they were awful. 868 00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:48,499 When we got into aliens, 869 00:36:48,499 --> 00:36:50,709 that felt pretty sharky-jumpy. 870 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:53,087 -It destroyed the show. -It had competition, too. 871 00:36:53,087 --> 00:36:56,048 Other shows, of course, newer, shinier shows came around. 872 00:36:59,134 --> 00:37:00,886 I remember 873 00:37:00,886 --> 00:37:03,514 approaching the set 874 00:37:03,514 --> 00:37:05,015 for some reason with Aaron, 875 00:37:05,015 --> 00:37:07,393 and he said, "Well, we're still alive." 876 00:37:07,393 --> 00:37:09,895 I said, "Okay, I didn't realize we're dying." 877 00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:11,772 I think two weeks later, we were canceled. 878 00:37:11,772 --> 00:37:14,108 [Alexis screaming] 879 00:37:14,108 --> 00:37:15,818 [gunshots booming] 880 00:37:17,528 --> 00:37:18,737 Blake! 881 00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:25,869 Blake. 882 00:37:25,869 --> 00:37:28,038 Joan Collins was pushed off a balcony, 883 00:37:28,038 --> 00:37:31,333 Linda Evans was in a coma, and John Forsythe was shot. 884 00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:33,085 When the show was abruptly canceled, 885 00:37:33,085 --> 00:37:34,795 angry fans demanded to know 886 00:37:34,795 --> 00:37:36,338 what happened to their characters. 887 00:37:36,338 --> 00:37:38,716 I thought it was very unfair to end the series 888 00:37:38,716 --> 00:37:40,926 with fans, everybody up in the air. 889 00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:42,928 It would be nice to end it 890 00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:46,557 with some definitive thing, 891 00:37:46,557 --> 00:37:48,434 to know what happened to the people, 892 00:37:48,434 --> 00:37:50,311 and to do it with some kind of dignity. 893 00:37:50,311 --> 00:37:53,856 The ninth season of Dynasty ended up being the last. 894 00:37:53,856 --> 00:37:55,691 They didn't know that, so there were still 895 00:37:55,691 --> 00:37:58,402 a lot of loose threads when the show ended 896 00:37:58,402 --> 00:38:00,154 that eventually would be resolved 897 00:38:00,154 --> 00:38:02,531 when they did a reunion miniseries later on. 898 00:38:02,531 --> 00:38:05,034 [announcer] Yes, it's true, the family you love to watch 899 00:38:05,034 --> 00:38:06,785 stab each other in the back is back. 900 00:38:06,785 --> 00:38:08,787 They felt they owed it to the fans 901 00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:10,831 who had watched Dynasty throughout the years. 902 00:38:10,831 --> 00:38:14,001 It all eventually got resolved in that reunion special, 903 00:38:14,001 --> 00:38:17,546 which wrapped it up in a nice bow around a package. 904 00:38:20,341 --> 00:38:23,010 -Hi, Dad. -Hello, son. 905 00:38:23,677 --> 00:38:24,928 Alexis? 906 00:38:27,014 --> 00:38:28,849 Oh, my God. 907 00:38:28,849 --> 00:38:31,143 Isn't it interesting that Dynasty stayed on top 908 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:34,855 for almost exactly the length of the Reagan administration? 909 00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:39,610 It started in 1981 with the inauguration month, 910 00:38:39,610 --> 00:38:41,362 and it ended in 1989. 911 00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:44,031 The '90s were about to dawn. 912 00:38:44,031 --> 00:38:47,034 I, George Herbert Walker Bush, 913 00:38:47,034 --> 00:38:48,452 do solemnly swear. 914 00:38:48,452 --> 00:38:50,162 Maybe we shouldn't be about greed, 915 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:53,290 and we shouldn't be about eating cake for dinner. 916 00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:54,792 [Al] I look back on it now, 917 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:56,919 you know, it was a kind of a cultural thing. 918 00:38:56,919 --> 00:38:58,712 It was a kind of product of the time. 919 00:38:58,712 --> 00:39:00,839 It was a good show for what it was. 920 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:02,549 Richard and Esther Shapiro 921 00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:04,718 made an attempt to break some ground, 922 00:39:04,718 --> 00:39:06,220 and I think they did. 923 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:10,015 So, I'm really proud of that part of it. 924 00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:11,558 It was so intense. 925 00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:14,353 Those nine years were so amazing. 926 00:39:14,353 --> 00:39:16,271 I wouldn't have given them up for anything in the world. 927 00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:18,899 It was an extraordinary thing to experience. 928 00:39:18,899 --> 00:39:23,445 Dynasty has become somewhat iconic, 929 00:39:23,445 --> 00:39:26,198 and I think I'd quite like to be remembered 930 00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:29,326 for having given a lot of people 931 00:39:29,326 --> 00:39:31,703 a lot of pleasure and laughs. 932 00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:35,999 It did not take anything that seriously, 933 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:38,710 and I think that's why people watch television 934 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:41,547 then and now, is to escape. 935 00:39:41,547 --> 00:39:43,757 Total escapism, 936 00:39:43,757 --> 00:39:46,552 and also the American dream. 937 00:39:46,552 --> 00:39:49,680 Come to America, and you can be a billionaire. 938 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,433 The legacy of Dynasty for me, 939 00:39:52,433 --> 00:39:54,017 obviously, is the fashion. 940 00:39:54,017 --> 00:39:56,687 I wish Nolan could be here today, 941 00:39:56,687 --> 00:39:58,772 because he would be so proud. 942 00:39:58,772 --> 00:40:01,733 Having dressed Elizabeth Taylor, Sophia Loren, 943 00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:04,153 Joan Collins, is why over time 944 00:40:04,153 --> 00:40:06,947 Julia Roberts, Angelina Jolie, Beyoncé, 945 00:40:06,947 --> 00:40:09,283 everybody would come to me, because I was there. 946 00:40:09,283 --> 00:40:11,869 And I owe that to Nolan, I owe that to Dynasty, 947 00:40:11,869 --> 00:40:14,455 I owe it to Aaron Spelling, Joan Collins, 948 00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:16,457 I owe it to everybody. 949 00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:18,584 [Derrik] When you think about history, 950 00:40:18,584 --> 00:40:20,377 there are lots of dynasties, 951 00:40:20,377 --> 00:40:22,129 that's where the name comes from. 952 00:40:22,129 --> 00:40:24,339 Like, look at the Kardashians. 953 00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:27,634 They basically are another version of the Carringtons. 954 00:40:27,634 --> 00:40:31,138 Super successful, super well-known, rich, 955 00:40:31,138 --> 00:40:33,056 and don't really care what anybody thinks about them. 956 00:40:33,056 --> 00:40:35,517 Being surrounded by opulence, 957 00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:38,854 and a dirty martini in a crystal glass, 958 00:40:38,854 --> 00:40:41,315 and fabulous [bleep] everywhere. 959 00:40:41,315 --> 00:40:44,485 That is definitely leftover from Dynasty. 960 00:40:44,485 --> 00:40:46,528 Dynasty made it okay to flaunt your wealth, 961 00:40:46,528 --> 00:40:48,155 made the people who weren't wealthy think 962 00:40:48,155 --> 00:40:50,491 that's what wealthy people do and should do. 963 00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:53,076 You literally-- I will literally [bleep] you up. 964 00:40:53,076 --> 00:40:57,122 The idea of the cat fight, the claws out. 965 00:40:57,122 --> 00:41:01,084 -I asked you something. -Well, here's your answer. 966 00:41:01,084 --> 00:41:02,753 [both screaming] 967 00:41:02,753 --> 00:41:04,171 I worked with all the Kardashians, 968 00:41:04,171 --> 00:41:05,964 they love Dynasty. 969 00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:08,217 Kris Jenner lived for Dynasty. 970 00:41:08,217 --> 00:41:11,637 So, you can see that when you look at 971 00:41:11,637 --> 00:41:13,472 them dressing today 972 00:41:13,472 --> 00:41:15,140 to what was happening on Dynasty, 973 00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:16,892 it's pretty parallel. 974 00:41:16,892 --> 00:41:20,437 Succession probably owes a little tip of the hat 975 00:41:20,437 --> 00:41:23,065 to the rich, miserable people. 976 00:41:23,065 --> 00:41:24,608 Money wins. 977 00:41:24,608 --> 00:41:27,986 [Pamela] Every decade has had its TV shows 978 00:41:27,986 --> 00:41:29,947 about how messed up rich people are. 979 00:41:29,947 --> 00:41:32,366 And people love that, they love that. 980 00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:34,660 Because let's face it, there's only this many rich people 981 00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:37,037 and everybody else is in this group. 982 00:41:37,037 --> 00:41:39,456 [Michael] I think Dynasty's greatest legacy is 983 00:41:39,456 --> 00:41:42,167 when you think the '80s, you think Dynasty. 984 00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:45,337 This was a show that was pure Reaganomics. 985 00:41:45,337 --> 00:41:46,922 It was pure greed. 986 00:41:46,922 --> 00:41:49,466 It was pure go-go, greed is good, 987 00:41:49,466 --> 00:41:51,969 early '80s nonsense 988 00:41:51,969 --> 00:41:54,221 that definitely doesn't hold up today. 989 00:41:54,221 --> 00:41:58,725 But it's-- it's a fun snapshot 990 00:41:58,725 --> 00:42:01,395 of an era that's now long past. 991 00:42:03,188 --> 00:42:06,233 [jazz music playing] 76219

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