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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,169 --> 00:00:04,126 We got ourselves an X-Men fan. 2 00:00:05,047 --> 00:00:09,041 Maybe a quarter of it happened, and not like this. 3 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:13,965 HUGH JACKMAN: It seems to me that the strength of Wolverine 4 00:00:14,056 --> 00:00:16,514 is more the humanity than his superpower. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,261 In exploring his character, 6 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:20,889 I really wanted to get to the heart of who that human was. 7 00:00:20,979 --> 00:00:25,018 JAMES MANGOLD: Putting superheroes into very real situations 8 00:00:25,108 --> 00:00:26,564 that we all can connect with, 9 00:00:26,652 --> 00:00:30,361 to me, is a way to suddenly reveal new aspects of these characters 10 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:31,528 that we hadn't seen. 11 00:00:31,615 --> 00:00:35,700 There was a longing on our part to try to take a more classic approach, 12 00:00:35,786 --> 00:00:37,823 do a more character-based story. 13 00:00:37,913 --> 00:00:40,621 What a disappointment you are. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,867 It was clearly going to be of a very different nature 15 00:00:44,962 --> 00:00:48,751 from the way the other films in the franchise have been seen before. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,376 STEPHEN MERCHANT: It seems to be tapping into some sort 17 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:52,754 of classic American storytelling. 18 00:00:52,844 --> 00:00:56,178 It feels both, kind of, old-fashioned and new and fresh at the same time. 19 00:00:56,265 --> 00:00:59,223 It's a movie about family. It's a movie about love. 20 00:00:59,309 --> 00:01:02,347 HUTCH PARKER: It's much more dramatic, it's much more real. 21 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:05,225 It's entirely different than we've seen Logan. 22 00:01:05,315 --> 00:01:08,353 I am fucked up. And | cannot get you there. 23 00:01:08,443 --> 00:01:10,559 I want the audience to feel everything. 24 00:01:10,654 --> 00:01:13,988 I want them to be outraged, I want them to laugh, I want them to yell. 25 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:15,405 (SCREAMS) 26 00:01:15,492 --> 00:01:17,529 I want them to, by the end, feel like 27 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:22,079 they've got to know fully and understand this human, 28 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:24,281 this man called Logan. 29 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:32,665 Save the "not okay." 30 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:35,922 Meaning it's... Boom! She looks at you, get her attention. "Not..." 31 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:37,799 Make sure she has your attention. 32 00:01:37,889 --> 00:01:39,425 -Got it. -Give her a lesson. 33 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:42,258 Then pull her out and kind of go, "Do you have..." 34 00:01:42,352 --> 00:01:44,514 But, like, really throw it away. "Do you have phone chargers?" 35 00:01:44,605 --> 00:01:47,472 Just underplay it, and let's see if it works. Here we go. 36 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:50,604 MANGOLD: The only thing that made us interested in going around again 37 00:01:50,694 --> 00:01:53,607 was the idea of doing something very different. 38 00:01:53,697 --> 00:01:57,315 Notjust different in storyline, but different in tone. 39 00:01:57,409 --> 00:02:00,117 JACKMAN: We both wanted a movie that was a standalone movie, 40 00:02:00,203 --> 00:02:04,618 that wasn't necessarily intermingled with the history of X-Men movies, 41 00:02:04,708 --> 00:02:06,290 the timeline of X-Men movies, 42 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:09,459 or characters that had been set up or gone or died, or whatever. 43 00:02:09,546 --> 00:02:12,083 We wanted something to feel very different, very fresh, 44 00:02:12,174 --> 00:02:14,632 and ultimate/y, something very human. 45 00:02:14,718 --> 00:02:16,800 MANGOLD: I think both Hugh and I wanted to find a way 46 00:02:16,887 --> 00:02:21,131 to make a movie about these characters that was actually a dramatic film. 47 00:02:21,224 --> 00:02:23,090 LOGAN: lt is better this way. 48 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:25,096 Because | suck at this. 49 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:29,646 Bad shit happens to people I care about. 50 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:30,973 You understand me? 51 00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:34,151 PATRICK STEWART: Rather than being a multitude of different characters 52 00:02:34,237 --> 00:02:37,446 with different objectives and intentions and story lines, 53 00:02:37,532 --> 00:02:40,524 this is one overriding storyline, 54 00:02:40,619 --> 00:02:43,953 which I really responded to ve/y, very strong/y. 55 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:46,576 MANGOLD: In terms of narratives, we were actually taking more 56 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:50,001 from the Craig Kyle X-23 series of comics 57 00:02:50,087 --> 00:02:52,454 than we were from Old Man Logan. 58 00:02:52,547 --> 00:02:53,878 JAC KMAN: Obviously I've read Old Man Logan 59 00:02:53,965 --> 00:02:55,672 and there are elements of that, 60 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:58,877 but there's more differences than similarities 61 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:01,632 and that wasn't what we were using as a template. 62 00:03:01,723 --> 00:03:03,339 Everyone frame up on A. 63 00:03:03,433 --> 00:03:06,471 The most powerful effect Mark Millar's Old Man Logan had on me 64 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:08,893 was its setting and its look. 65 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:12,018 The story involved a lot of characters we didn't even have the rights to, 66 00:03:12,109 --> 00:03:16,819 but also the story is vely bleak, and I wanted to make a film with heart. 67 00:03:16,905 --> 00:03:19,522 There was a time when the action movie 68 00:03:19,616 --> 00:03:23,450 was still character-based and not spectacle-based. 69 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:28,623 And the superhero film has become kind of like the Western was in the '50s. 70 00:03:28,709 --> 00:03:30,871 There are dozens of them a year. 71 00:03:30,961 --> 00:03:32,167 Wolverine. 72 00:03:34,297 --> 00:03:35,628 I knew it was you. 73 00:03:36,466 --> 00:03:39,208 JACKMAN: lhad a vision of something closer to Unforgiven, 74 00:03:39,302 --> 00:03:42,920 in not necessarily the story but what Unforgiven did for the Western. 75 00:03:43,014 --> 00:03:44,800 Where the lead character, Clint Eastwood, 76 00:03:44,891 --> 00:03:48,054 there was so much fan following and history 77 00:03:48,145 --> 00:03:51,558 and he kind ofjust turned it on its head a little bit. 78 00:03:51,648 --> 00:03:54,231 Now, Old Man Logan, having spoken to the writer, 79 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:56,809 is absolutely inspired by Unforgiven. 80 00:03:56,903 --> 00:03:59,190 So, I like to see the connection more in that way. 81 00:03:59,281 --> 00:04:00,442 SCOTT FRAN K: On the last Wolverine movie, 82 00:04:00,532 --> 00:04:02,864 we were always talking about Outlaw Josey Wales. 83 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:05,909 So, the Western was always a part of our conversations 84 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:08,533 whenever we were talking about the Wolverine character. 85 00:04:08,623 --> 00:04:12,241 It's so big on you right now, it's kind of deadifying you, the... 86 00:04:12,335 --> 00:04:16,499 And what I wanna feel is just the, "Fuckl I don't wanna do this!" 87 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:17,705 -That's nice. Nice. Nice. -Yes. 88 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:21,542 It's a superhero movie but within that, we try to create a subgenre, 89 00:04:21,636 --> 00:04:23,593 so that you feel like you're seeing something different. 90 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,763 PARKER: I think Wolverine's essential/y a Western character. 91 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:29,433 That's what he is at his essence, he is an out/aw, 92 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:35,105 he is a character with a great moral code, at odds with the society in which he lives. 93 00:04:35,192 --> 00:04:37,103 I know you're still good inside. 94 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:38,559 I know you want to help us. 95 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:40,109 You don't know anything about me. 96 00:04:40,197 --> 00:04:42,905 MANGOLD: I think the Western motif came really naturally to the film 97 00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:45,779 the second we reduced the scope of the movie to something more intimate. 98 00:04:45,869 --> 00:04:48,907 The Westerns that we all love and remember 99 00:04:48,997 --> 00:04:55,289 are rarely about the battle of X or Y or kind of the winning of a great territory. 100 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:58,461 They're really about, "Will this farmer get to keep his land? 101 00:04:58,548 --> 00:05:00,630 "Will this man hold on to his family? 102 00:05:00,717 --> 00:05:03,425 "Will this dark family control this county?" 103 00:05:03,512 --> 00:05:06,095 The questions are local, and yet they seem huge. 104 00:05:06,181 --> 00:05:08,343 Three, two, one, action! 105 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:10,765 Stay up with him. Suffer, but stay with him. 106 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:13,514 Turn, look, see what happened, then go. 107 00:05:13,605 --> 00:05:15,391 You're involved in this, you lose the guy, 108 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:17,814 "Shit!" Beep! Beep! Someone's honking at you. 109 00:05:17,901 --> 00:05:20,359 You look back, then the guy's waving you through. 110 00:05:20,445 --> 00:05:22,356 Good, cut. We got it. 111 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:27,233 PARKER: Jim is one of the finest dramatic directors that I know. 112 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:30,445 I think his skills with regard to performance, 113 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:33,156 and drama in general, are remarkable. 114 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:36,788 He is a director who can express very clearly 115 00:05:36,878 --> 00:05:41,543 what he thinks a scene is about, or a character or a relationship is about, 116 00:05:41,633 --> 00:05:44,591 and then he's prepared to throw it all away and do something different, 117 00:05:44,678 --> 00:05:47,010 and I think most actors find that exciting, 118 00:05:47,097 --> 00:05:53,264 that they are not being restrained within certain parameters of directorial objective. 119 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:56,436 He's an amazing writer, and when we worked on the last Wolverine, 120 00:05:56,523 --> 00:05:58,560 and on Kate & Leopold, the first movie | did with him, 121 00:05:58,650 --> 00:06:00,561 there were scripts that had been written, then he directed. 122 00:06:00,652 --> 00:06:06,398 I was really excited about the possibility of what would come if Jim had a clean slate, 123 00:06:06,491 --> 00:06:08,778 a blank canvas, and that's what we had. 124 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,406 MANGOLD: I had this kind of Strange vision in my head 125 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:14,784 that I just wanted to make a road movie with these characters. 126 00:06:14,875 --> 00:06:17,207 The idea of almost trapping myself as a filmmaker, 127 00:06:17,294 --> 00:06:19,410 putting them in a car and putting them on the highway, 128 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,541 would kind of tie my hands. 129 00:06:21,631 --> 00:06:26,125 We couldn't do something about worlds colliding or an alien invasion. 130 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:30,713 The movie would essential/y force itself to operate on a more intimate level. 131 00:06:30,807 --> 00:06:34,721 Jim's very keen on establishing the relationships between people 132 00:06:34,811 --> 00:06:38,179 and really making sure he burrows into those interconnections. 133 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:42,016 RICHARD E. GRANT: He likes to subvert what is the obvious way of doing something 134 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:43,396 to try and find another way around it, 135 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:47,696 so that it doesn't fitjust the cliché of this big dramatic moment. 136 00:06:47,782 --> 00:06:50,399 He does everything to play against that, or divert that. 137 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:52,905 DAFNE KEEN: I think he's a good director. It's fun working with him. 138 00:06:52,996 --> 00:06:55,784 Lots of directors just tell you what they want you to do, 139 00:06:55,874 --> 00:06:57,706 but he says, "Just make it real." 140 00:06:57,792 --> 00:07:01,126 The trickiest thing about writing and directing superhero films is, 141 00:07:01,212 --> 00:07:03,829 if someone is invincible, if someone cannot be hurt, 142 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:06,040 they're essential/y kind of uninteresting. 143 00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:10,590 JAC KMAN: The beginning of this movie, Logan is very lost. 144 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,469 He is despondent, he's older, there's quite a few more gray hairs, 145 00:07:14,559 --> 00:07:17,221 but he's not well, he's sick, he's physically sick, 146 00:07:17,312 --> 00:07:21,271 and, I would say, spiritual/y and emotional/y not in a great place. 147 00:07:21,358 --> 00:07:24,817 He's long past the stage in his life 148 00:07:24,903 --> 00:07:28,521 where he reacts to people 's pleas and cries for help. 149 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:30,856 He has come to the conclusion 150 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:34,114 that generally when he helps, things end up worse off. 151 00:07:34,204 --> 00:07:37,367 You're coming upon a man who's getting poisoned from the inside out. 152 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:42,668 His Skeleton, made of Adamantium, is leeching inside him and he's suffering. 153 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,371 So, we 're finding a character in extreme distress. 154 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,628 MICHAEL GREEN: He's not a hero anymore, he's a fucking mess. 155 00:07:48,718 --> 00:07:51,927 His body doesn't behave like it used to. 156 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:55,756 His morality doesn't engage like it used to. He's just getting by. 157 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:59,809 A|| of the elements that made Logan "Logan," Wolverine "Wo|verine," 158 00:07:59,896 --> 00:08:01,603 are here in this movie. 159 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:04,808 It's just that all the circumstances are different 160 00:08:04,901 --> 00:08:06,938 and that's what makes this so interesting, 161 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:09,816 that the guy's struggling, really struggling, 162 00:08:09,906 --> 00:08:12,739 To go back and be the person you've been trying not to be 163 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:13,987 in order to do the right thing, 164 00:08:14,077 --> 00:08:16,569 that's always an interesting notion for a character. 165 00:08:16,663 --> 00:08:19,075 He's always been, in this role, kind of grumpy, 166 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:21,156 but not as grumpy as in this one. 167 00:08:21,251 --> 00:08:22,582 He's really grumpy. 168 00:08:22,669 --> 00:08:25,161 The issues that the character is confronting 169 00:08:25,255 --> 00:08:27,838 are the most challenging ones he's come upon. 170 00:08:27,924 --> 00:08:31,918 It's been important for Hugh each time that we give him a journey, as an actor, 171 00:08:32,012 --> 00:08:34,174 that was engaging and interesting and fresh for him, 172 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:37,302 so we had to work hard to find new ground. 173 00:08:37,392 --> 00:08:40,680 MERCHANT: He still seems interested in finding new elements, 174 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:42,511 digging under the surface, 175 00:08:42,605 --> 00:08:44,391 so I think that's a great testament to him. 176 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:46,348 He's not complacent about this character, 177 00:08:46,443 --> 00:08:50,311 that he's still burrowing into it and finding new ways of exploring him. 178 00:08:50,405 --> 00:08:53,147 PARKER: It's the best I've ever seen him as Wolverine. 179 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:55,107 I think it's the best I've ever seen him, period. 180 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,734 FRANK: The reason, if the movie works at all, 181 00:08:57,829 --> 00:09:02,665 works because Hugh Jackman committed 1,000% to playing this role, 182 00:09:02,751 --> 00:09:05,243 and to playing it without compromise, 183 00:09:05,336 --> 00:09:08,169 to playing him older, broken, angry, 184 00:09:08,256 --> 00:09:11,374 all the things that make him wholly unappealing, 185 00:09:11,468 --> 00:09:16,759 and somehow manages to find humanity underneath all of that, 186 00:09:16,848 --> 00:09:18,964 and to make him heroic at the same time, 187 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:21,721 and that goes well beyond anything that was on the page. 188 00:09:21,811 --> 00:09:24,553 STEWART: The thought of Wolverine and Hugh Jackman 189 00:09:24,647 --> 00:09:26,229 cannot now be separated. 190 00:09:26,316 --> 00:09:29,399 The man and the role have merged. 191 00:09:29,486 --> 00:09:31,818 | don't mean to say that you need to be scared of Hugh Jackman, 192 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:34,397 that he might actually rip your neck open at any moment. 193 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:37,991 Actually, there's no other actor/ know 194 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:40,911 who is less likely to do something like that than Hugh. 195 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:44,285 What's so extraordinary to me is just seeing the contrast between the real Hugh, 196 00:09:44,375 --> 00:09:47,333 who couldn't be more lovely and sweet-natured and generous, 197 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:51,038 and then him having to put on that gruff, taciturn man 198 00:09:51,132 --> 00:09:54,341 dealing with his darkness and his demons, who seems so far from the real man. 199 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:57,169 KEEN: It's the opposite of him, it really is. 200 00:09:57,263 --> 00:10:01,257 Because he's very nice and funny and sings all the time 201 00:10:01,351 --> 00:10:02,841 and tells jokes and stuff, 202 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:06,395 but then, when he's Wolverine, it's a kind of total change. 203 00:10:07,524 --> 00:10:10,642 Like, suddenly he's a grumpy man who hates you, 204 00:10:10,735 --> 00:10:14,069 and then they say, "Cut," and he's smiling and telling jokes. 205 00:10:14,197 --> 00:10:16,313 -Ow, ow. Ow! -(LAUGHS) 206 00:10:16,407 --> 00:10:17,943 (GRUNTS) 207 00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:24,113 JAC KMAN: It seemed to me that Wolverine may be one of the darkest, 208 00:10:24,207 --> 00:10:27,199 most complex characters in the comic book universe, 209 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:32,083 and every time, for the last 17 years, I've seen PG-13, 210 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:34,790 a little part of me has winced, going, 211 00:10:34,884 --> 00:10:37,967 "Wolverine would never be in a PG-13 movie. 212 00:10:38,054 --> 00:10:40,887 "I don't think he would ever watch a PG-13 movie." 213 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:43,261 Just nothing about him seemed PG-13. 214 00:10:43,351 --> 00:10:46,469 FRAN K: There's a manifesto in the script, a little two-paragraph thing that we wrote 215 00:10:46,563 --> 00:10:48,270 about how the violence was going to feel, 216 00:10:48,356 --> 00:10:51,144 how it was going to appear, how it was gonna be portrayed, 217 00:10:51,234 --> 00:10:55,819 that it was gonna be meaningful, impactful and have Iasting consequences. 218 00:10:55,905 --> 00:11:01,241 I didn't want to make just a more violent, more sexy, more explicit, obscene movie. 219 00:11:01,327 --> 00:11:03,238 | wanted to somehow make an adult movie. 220 00:11:03,872 --> 00:11:05,738 I've hurt people, too. 221 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:12,248 You're gonna have to learn how to live with that. 222 00:11:12,338 --> 00:11:17,504 PARKER: It's the tone of this character who is full of rage, and at times, self-Ioathing, 223 00:11:17,594 --> 00:11:20,757 and an anger towards the world that has shunned him. 224 00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:23,930 JACKMAN: I was like, "This will not be a movie driven by a rating." 225 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:26,179 It's not R-rated because of the violence, 226 00:11:26,269 --> 00:11:28,260 even though there is a myriad of violence in it, 227 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:30,186 that's not what defines it as R-rated. 228 00:11:30,273 --> 00:11:32,640 That R rating is more about the subject matter, 229 00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:35,977 the way the characters are treated, the wa y violence is depicted. 230 00:11:37,447 --> 00:11:39,404 MANGOLD: When you make a movie rated R, 231 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:42,865 it resets everyone how they're thinking about the movie. 232 00:11:42,952 --> 00:11:45,364 They instantly understand this is not a movie for children. 233 00:11:45,455 --> 00:11:47,867 So, suddenly, they don't expect you to be making a movie 234 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:49,743 that's gonna appeal to 9-year-olds. 235 00:11:49,834 --> 00:11:51,495 With that anticipation gone, 236 00:11:51,586 --> 00:11:54,374 you suddenly are making a movie about more grown-up themes. 237 00:11:54,464 --> 00:11:57,047 JAC KMAN: It was just basically taking off the seatbelt, 238 00:11:57,133 --> 00:12:01,969 taking off any kind of restriction and, "Let's just dive into this character." 239 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:05,381 MERCHANT: It feels more grounded, and it's certain/y tough, 240 00:12:05,475 --> 00:12:07,216 and at times, extremely violent. 241 00:12:07,352 --> 00:12:09,093 (GRUNTING) 242 00:12:10,647 --> 00:12:12,012 (SCREAMING) 243 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:17,188 Who are you? 244 00:12:17,946 --> 00:12:19,277 You know who | am. 245 00:12:19,364 --> 00:12:21,776 You're the man who puts me to sleep. 246 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:22,901 We both could use some sleep. 247 00:12:22,992 --> 00:12:24,608 No! No! 248 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:26,238 (G ROANS) 249 00:12:26,913 --> 00:12:28,153 JAMES MANGOLD: The starting point of the film 250 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:30,239 was really about creating a situation 251 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:32,950 where you find Logan caring for an ailing father. 252 00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:38,084 And struggling to provide protection and medicine and love and care 253 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:40,666 for someone who is losing control. 254 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,628 PATRICK STEWART: The history of Charles Xavier, right up to the last movie, 255 00:12:44,722 --> 00:12:49,091 was one in which he was in command, in control, 256 00:12:49,185 --> 00:12:51,597 giving the sense that when Charles Xavier was on the screen 257 00:12:51,688 --> 00:12:53,349 everything was gonna be all right. 258 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:54,895 Well, that's all changed. 259 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:59,860 And it becomes perfectly clear when we first encounter Charles. 260 00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:05,112 And he's old, he's i||, but most importantly, he's dangerous. 261 00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:07,491 (EXCLAIMS) 262 00:13:07,704 --> 00:13:10,947 MANGOLD: Charles Xavier with a degenerative brain disease 263 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,701 is very different than you or I, 264 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:15,284 meaning that he's the most powerful brain in the world 265 00:13:15,378 --> 00:13:17,039 and he's Iosing control of it. 266 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:21,124 So, it's also a little like having a nuclear missile hidden in this tank. 267 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:22,378 Only, one that you love 268 00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:24,709 and one that you're t/ying to keep comfortable. 269 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:26,465 HUGH JACKMAN: Charles is not in a good place. 270 00:13:26,556 --> 00:13:29,264 His mind is going, he doesn't remember things, 271 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:31,682 he doesn't understand why he's there, at times. 272 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:35,057 STEWART: He's at peril, and the person who looks after him, 273 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:39,187 mothers him, nurses him, supervises him, argues with him, 274 00:13:39,277 --> 00:13:43,817 picks him up off the floor when he's fallen down, is Logan. 275 00:13:43,906 --> 00:13:45,988 MICHAEL GREEN: Why does Logan bother to show up for Charles? 276 00:13:46,075 --> 00:13:49,113 If you asked Logan, he would say he's doing it because he owes him. 277 00:13:49,203 --> 00:13:51,865 But if you look at his face, you'll see it's because he loves him. 278 00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:56,580 | thought that was a very relevant theme. Many people are caring for older parents. 279 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:59,036 Many people are going through this as we live longer. 280 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:01,087 JACKMAN: I think what I love about what Jim wrote is, 281 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:03,916 you see the frustration of caring for someone like that, 282 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:06,001 and that person not understanding or knowing. 283 00:14:06,095 --> 00:14:09,133 It's very real, in a way, domestically real. 284 00:14:09,223 --> 00:14:11,760 STEWART: For Charles and Logan, the roles have been reversed. 285 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:18,348 Essentially you always felt that so long as Charles was attending to Logan, 286 00:14:18,441 --> 00:14:20,102 and there with Logan, 287 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:23,060 that the powers that Logan had would be controlled. 288 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:26,192 And in this film, the roles are reversed. 289 00:14:26,282 --> 00:14:31,868 Xavier is the vulnerable one, and Logan is his minder, his keeper, 290 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:34,867 his controller, if you like, protecting him. 291 00:14:34,957 --> 00:14:36,288 Take these now. 292 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,626 We have to get out of here. It's not safe here anymore. 293 00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:41,544 And you can't have an attack out there, you understand? 294 00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:45,920 When Jim suggested Patrick in this part, at that stage of his life, 295 00:14:46,010 --> 00:14:47,500 I just thought, "This is so perfect." 296 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:50,087 MANGOLD: Patrick has always kind of played a cool cat, 297 00:14:50,181 --> 00:14:53,014 someone who has it all together, is in control, 298 00:14:53,101 --> 00:14:55,388 is kind of pulling the puppet strings, if anything. 299 00:14:55,478 --> 00:14:58,220 And | think one of the things that was really attractive 300 00:14:58,314 --> 00:15:01,181 when I first started telling Patrick about what we were thinking of doing, 301 00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:06,441 is it gave him a chance to play weakness, frailty, fear, anxiety, crotchetiness, 302 00:15:06,531 --> 00:15:08,488 things he rarely gets a chance to be. 303 00:15:08,574 --> 00:15:11,441 CHARLES: Stop it. For God's sake, | can do this myself! 304 00:15:11,536 --> 00:15:13,823 LOGAN: Yeah, well, you're not doing it. Just get on with it. 305 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,403 CHARLES: Not with you standing there. 306 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:16,704 LOGAN: Trust me, I'm not Iookin'. 307 00:15:16,791 --> 00:15:18,122 JAC KMAN: He was so into this. 308 00:15:18,209 --> 00:15:23,249 I think, a little like me, after 17 years, he looked at the script 309 00:15:23,339 --> 00:15:28,379 and saw a full opportunity to dive into the deepest part of these characters. 310 00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:30,301 STEPHEN MERCHANT: Patrick, for all of his years of experience, 311 00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:33,301 for a|| of the Shakespeare he's done, a|| of the stage work and all the movies, 312 00:15:33,391 --> 00:15:37,134 he's still willing to discuss and to find new ways into it. 313 00:15:37,228 --> 00:15:40,846 We shot all his stuff first, and he just came in on day one. 314 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:44,478 Even in rehearsals, he was ready, he was off-book, he knew every line. 315 00:15:44,569 --> 00:15:47,027 MERCHANT: The thing with Patrick is it's just that voice. 316 00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:50,276 It's just, when he starts talking in that voice, 317 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:52,698 and he's made up and he's lit, he's that man, 318 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:56,619 and you just stand there watching, believing, and just absorbed by it. 319 00:15:56,706 --> 00:15:59,949 You're just hypnotized by the gravitas that they bring. 320 00:16:00,042 --> 00:16:01,453 | can barely remember the lines. 321 00:16:01,544 --> 00:16:07,540 It's a heartbreaking, beautiful, Iayered, textured, complex performance. 322 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:11,126 At times, unbelievably Iucid and clear. 323 00:16:11,220 --> 00:16:18,058 You see the relationship with he and Logan as very sort of father-son, in all its colors. 324 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:23,935 | guess you prefer me pharmaceutically castrated, rambling on like a Iunatic. 325 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:25,727 So much easier for you. 326 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:26,979 LOGAN: Easier? Jesus! 327 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:28,525 There is nothing easy about you, Charles, nothing! 328 00:16:28,613 --> 00:16:31,901 Yes, yes, please be like the rest of the world... 329 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,153 blaming someone else for your boring shit. 330 00:16:34,702 --> 00:16:39,617 JACKMAN: Pride, disappointment, anger, frustration, it all plays out. 331 00:16:39,707 --> 00:16:45,123 And what he does with so little is just really heartbreaking. 332 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:49,332 DAFNE KEEN: With Patrick, it was funny, because he would also tell jokes and stuff, 333 00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:55,262 and he was a bit more like his character. It was very fun, shooting the scenes. 334 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,464 JAC KMAN: I'II never forget, we were in the back of the car, 335 00:16:57,558 --> 00:16:59,720 and we had finished this great scene we have in the car 336 00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:01,016 where we're having this argument, 337 00:17:01,103 --> 00:17:06,189 and Dafne, who is 11, she's just on the seat, watching, and we call cut, 338 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:07,515 and Patrick goes... (SIGHS) 339 00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:09,938 And Dafne said, "What's the matter? Are you hot?" 340 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:11,645 And he goes, "No, Iwasjust sad." 341 00:17:11,739 --> 00:17:15,778 He goes, "|'|| never get to do that scene again." (CHUCKLES) 342 00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:18,694 And she goes, "Well, you've got lots..." 343 00:17:18,788 --> 00:17:20,529 He goes, "No, you don't understand, Dafne. 344 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:24,207 "You will understand that the hardest thing about film is 345 00:17:24,293 --> 00:17:27,411 "when you get a great scene like that, 346 00:17:27,505 --> 00:17:30,918 "you only do it for one day in your life and then it's gone." 347 00:17:31,008 --> 00:17:34,501 And he looked at her and he said, "Make sure you do theater. 348 00:17:34,595 --> 00:17:36,552 "Because when you get a great scene, 349 00:17:36,639 --> 00:17:38,880 "at least you get to do it for six months every night." 350 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:41,387 And he goes, "And then you're ready for it to go." 351 00:17:41,477 --> 00:17:45,436 But in that moment, I saw this man 's joy in what he's doing. 352 00:17:45,523 --> 00:17:48,060 He reveled in this character, and it shows. 353 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:50,562 MANGOLD: I think this is what's so beautiful in Patrick's performance, 354 00:17:50,653 --> 00:17:52,860 you see the character you knew, 355 00:17:52,947 --> 00:17:57,862 you see him kind of bubble up and come up in a really human and beautiful way. 356 00:17:57,952 --> 00:17:59,863 And I think it's one of Patrick's great performances. 357 00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:01,615 I think it's really astounding. 358 00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:06,951 Playing Charles since, what, 1999, 1998, 359 00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:11,163 has been a delightful and entertaining experience. 360 00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:14,045 And I hope, for all of us, it will be a Iegacy 361 00:18:14,135 --> 00:18:20,552 that we satisfied the requirement of that legend and those characters. 362 00:18:24,228 --> 00:18:25,263 You. 363 00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:28,229 Who the hell are you? 364 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:32,392 Hey! | asked you a question. Who are you? 365 00:18:33,654 --> 00:18:35,270 You know who she is, Logan. 366 00:18:35,364 --> 00:18:37,071 No, | don't. 367 00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:39,365 Does she remind you of anybody? 368 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:46,787 Laura and several other kids are mutants that were actually produced in a lab, 369 00:18:46,876 --> 00:18:50,289 taking DNA from various mutants and mixing it together 370 00:18:50,379 --> 00:18:52,620 and creating embryos, and therefore kids. 371 00:18:52,715 --> 00:18:55,628 It's probably the least science-fiction part of our story, 372 00:18:55,718 --> 00:19:00,463 is the idea that embryos are gonna be created in a petri dish, 373 00:19:00,556 --> 00:19:03,139 and we 're gonna be cutting and splicing different genes together 374 00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:05,307 and different qualities together, however we want it, 375 00:19:05,394 --> 00:19:06,884 and eradicating diseases 376 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:10,222 and bringing in certain qualities and creating humans as we want them. 377 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,644 KEEN: She's a child, but she's a kind of strange child. 378 00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:17,479 She's very different. 379 00:19:17,573 --> 00:19:22,067 She loves violence when she gets angry but then at the same time, 380 00:19:22,203 --> 00:19:27,824 she loves unicorn T-shirts and pink and stuff like that. 381 00:19:27,917 --> 00:19:29,407 She's not my child. 382 00:19:30,795 --> 00:19:32,377 But I love her. 383 00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:35,330 You may not love her. 384 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:39,505 But she is your child. 385 00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:44,465 MANGOLD: Laura, in this film, represents a kind of prima/ challenge to Logan, 386 00:19:44,558 --> 00:19:46,515 whether he's gonna figure out how to love, 387 00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:49,845 whether he's gonna figure out how to give a shit, 388 00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:52,397 or kind of risk himself and stick with it. 389 00:19:52,483 --> 00:19:55,271 And what's so interesting and peculiar about Laura 390 00:19:55,361 --> 00:20:00,697 is that this particular kid happens to be one that is genetically saddled 391 00:20:00,783 --> 00:20:06,825 with the same rage, temper, blades, volatility and mood swings as her father. 392 00:20:07,498 --> 00:20:08,579 Last ride. 393 00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:13,876 You're welcome. 394 00:20:13,963 --> 00:20:15,670 MANGOLD: He's got a real challenge on his hands 395 00:20:15,756 --> 00:20:19,124 because he's got a child as problematic as the parent. 396 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:20,879 SCOTT FRANK: In previous incarnations of the movie, 397 00:20:20,970 --> 00:20:22,756 she was talking all the time from the beginning 398 00:20:22,847 --> 00:20:26,056 and it was a little wise-cracky relationship, it was more expected. 399 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:28,975 And I thought it'd be better to fool the audience, 400 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:32,645 not in terms of whether or not she speaks, but in terms of her level of intelligence. 401 00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:34,063 Let's think she's an animal. 402 00:20:34,150 --> 00:20:37,984 Let's think she was created in a test tube and she is this very feral creature. 403 00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:39,185 (YELLS) 404 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:44,695 And then you gradually begin to see how much more aware she is of things, 405 00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:47,243 how much smarter she is, what she notices, 406 00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:51,163 and she's a lot sharper than anyone, certain/y Logan, gives her credit for. 407 00:20:51,709 --> 00:20:55,077 Their relationship is very much at the core of what the movie is, 408 00:20:55,171 --> 00:20:57,037 because it's the relationship through which 409 00:20:57,131 --> 00:21:00,089 he sort of comes to reconnect to his own humanity. 410 00:21:00,176 --> 00:21:02,338 JACKMAN: This is a very difficult part to cast. 411 00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:05,921 She's genetically got Wo|verine's DNA. 412 00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:10,509 So, there are elements of him in her personality and her physicality, 413 00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:13,095 and that's not easy to pull off. 414 00:21:13,189 --> 00:21:17,274 I found it hard to pull off when I was 30, let alone an 11-year-old girl. 415 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,102 I was really happy when they told me that I got the part. 416 00:21:21,197 --> 00:21:23,154 It was very fun filming. 417 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,732 PARKER: She loved making this movie. 418 00:21:25,826 --> 00:21:27,442 She couldn't get to work early enough. 419 00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:29,447 Her parents had trouble getting her to sleep at night. 420 00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:32,155 MANGOLD: Scott and I had the idea that Laura should be mute 421 00:21:32,249 --> 00:21:34,081 for most of the movie, not speaking, 422 00:21:34,168 --> 00:21:38,287 and then when she does, we put another impediment between Logan and her, 423 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:40,041 in that she's speaking Spanish. 424 00:21:40,174 --> 00:21:42,131 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 425 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:44,925 What? Shut up. 426 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:46,252 Shut the fuck up! 427 00:21:46,347 --> 00:21:48,839 MANGOLD: So, instantly we needed a kid who was bilingual, 428 00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:50,469 who could speak fluent Spanish, 429 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,847 who would be credible as a child raised in a Mexican facility, 430 00:21:53,938 --> 00:21:56,305 which is where the Transigen lab is located. 431 00:21:56,398 --> 00:22:00,733 We began a search for Latino kids between nine and 12 432 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,437 that could handle action, could act, 433 00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:06,740 and could speak English and español. 434 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,487 We must have seen 1,000 kids. 435 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,989 STEWART: Both of Dafne's parents are actors. 436 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,788 An English actor whose work I've always admired, 437 00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:17,993 and her mother is a ve/y fine and distinguished Spanish stage actress. 438 00:22:18,087 --> 00:22:19,828 Dafne Keen is a sharp kid, 439 00:22:19,922 --> 00:22:24,166 and she's physical, she's daring, she's fearless, 440 00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:25,842 and she's a really good actress. 441 00:22:25,928 --> 00:22:30,013 James showed me a clip of her audition on camera, 442 00:22:30,099 --> 00:22:33,342 and he said, "I'd just like to know what you think of this." 443 00:22:33,435 --> 00:22:36,268 She was playing the scene and it was very, very good. 444 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:39,518 And then on the clip she asked the director, 445 00:22:39,608 --> 00:22:41,474 could she improvise the scene? 446 00:22:41,569 --> 00:22:44,982 And she went into her own version of the scene 447 00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:47,029 in a mixture of Spanish and English, 448 00:22:47,116 --> 00:22:50,404 and it was one of the most extraordinary bits of audition tape 449 00:22:50,494 --> 00:22:51,700 I had ever seen in my life. 450 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:54,404 JACKMAN: It's 2,000 fucking miles, you've been sitting in the back, 451 00:22:54,498 --> 00:22:55,909 you cou|d've fucking talked to me this whole time. 452 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,207 (KEEN YELLING IN SPANISH) 453 00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:04,880 JACKMAN: Shut the fuck up! 454 00:23:05,843 --> 00:23:08,881 Mason, Rictor, Caden, Bobby and Charlotte. 455 00:23:08,971 --> 00:23:10,132 Who's that? 456 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:11,838 Mason, Rictor, Caden Bobby and Charlotte. 457 00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:13,013 Who is that? 458 00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:15,842 Who is it? 459 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:18,265 Montana. Montana! 460 00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:20,058 What? 461 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,056 -What about it? No. -Montana. 462 00:23:22,151 --> 00:23:26,236 Yes, your mom, she read a lot of stories, your mom made this up. 463 00:23:26,322 --> 00:23:29,405 This is all bullshit. You understand? 464 00:23:29,491 --> 00:23:33,485 Yes, I know, I know. I've read it, I've seen it. This is a comic book, okay? 465 00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:37,914 This is all just fantasy. It's all just pictures, made-up pictures. 466 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,786 Yes, okay, | understand. 467 00:23:39,877 --> 00:23:41,663 Yes, okay, fine, yeah. 468 00:23:41,754 --> 00:23:45,918 This place here, okay? This does not exist. Listen to me. 469 00:23:46,008 --> 00:23:50,753 This does not... No existo. Eden, no existo. 470 00:23:50,846 --> 00:23:52,632 There is no Eden. You understand? 471 00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,088 Si! Si, si. Eden. 472 00:23:54,183 --> 00:23:58,177 No, there is no Eden, there is no Bobby, there is no Rictor. 473 00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:01,012 There is none of it. This is all just some big fucking lie. 474 00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:04,644 I know where fucking Montana is, and I'm not taking you there! 475 00:24:04,735 --> 00:24:07,898 PARKER: There are qualities you can't ask of somebody to deliver. 476 00:24:07,988 --> 00:24:10,946 A level of strength, a sort of stage presence, 477 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:13,946 and a maturity that still doesn't really make sense to me. 478 00:24:14,036 --> 00:24:19,452 It felt like she could do this most difficult thing of, on the one hand, 479 00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:24,377 being this emotional kind of co-star with Hugh and with Patrick, 480 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:28,502 and on top of that, then also manage the physicality, which is pretty demanding. 481 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,459 She was really a remarkable discovery. 482 00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:33,544 JACKMAN: And she came in for the audition, 483 00:24:33,639 --> 00:24:35,505 there's a scene where she punches me in the arm, 484 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,842 and I went home and I had bruises all over my arm. 485 00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:40,518 No offense to all those guys I've fought, 486 00:24:40,604 --> 00:24:43,642 but I've never gone home with bruises until that day. 487 00:24:43,732 --> 00:24:48,727 She's the most Ievel-headed, amazing kid. She is a phenomenal, phenomenal actress. 488 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,153 It was a real honor to share the film with her. 489 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,528 MERCHANT: For someone so young, she seems so self-possessed, 490 00:24:54,618 --> 00:24:58,111 and she just does it, she just gets it, she just understands what's needed. 491 00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:00,788 STEWART: She's a child who performs 492 00:25:00,874 --> 00:25:06,040 with the weight and seriousness and intensity and diversity 493 00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:10,124 of a very experienced and worldly actress. 494 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:13,175 JACKMAN: She doesn't speak for the first 90 minutes of the movie, 495 00:25:13,262 --> 00:25:17,256 everything has to be communicated through her eyes and her expression, 496 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:18,931 and her heart, and you get it all. 497 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:21,476 MANGOLD: Sometimes you don't have to do much and in this case, 498 00:25:21,562 --> 00:25:25,055 you get Dafne and Hugh and Patrick together, 499 00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:27,516 our rehearsals before we shot were amazing 500 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:30,772 and I was already wanting to cut off the rehearsal because I wanted to be shooting. 501 00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:32,979 I always am frightened in rehearsals 502 00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:37,112 that I 'm missing the first moment the scene comes to life. 503 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,738 My goal is to always get... 504 00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:41,867 The moment the scene blossoms, I wanna be filming. 505 00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:46,201 My greatest fear is that I'm rehearsing and the scene feels great, 506 00:25:46,295 --> 00:25:49,208 'cause then what's gonna happen is a month later you're gonna be shooting 507 00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:51,255 and you're gonna be going, "It's not the same." 508 00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,799 So, most of what I do is, I get the actors together, 509 00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:57,095 in this case you're talking about Dafne, Hugh and Patrick, and they hang. 510 00:25:57,181 --> 00:25:59,297 They work on the scenes, they get to know each other, 511 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,302 they trust each other, they become friends. 512 00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:02,883 Hugh is a father himself 513 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:06,687 and was really, just, comfortable talking and working with a kid, 514 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:09,232 and Patrick was incredibly generous and lovely with her. 515 00:26:09,526 --> 00:26:14,316 And you just began to see the energies just naturally developing between them. 516 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,940 You want me to get there basically as he reaches... 517 00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:19,571 Yes, and |wou|dn't even mind if you go, "Logan," and you take... 518 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:21,072 And for another, something wrong, 519 00:26:21,163 --> 00:26:23,245 you take a step toward him, like, up around the corner. 520 00:26:23,332 --> 00:26:26,745 Caliban in Marvel Iore and X-Men Iore 521 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:30,703 was kind of on the dark side of things for a long while in his life. 522 00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:34,792 What I chose to, kind of, examine in this movie was 523 00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:38,094 finding him as a character who had already turned, 524 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,798 regretted what he'd done with his past and kind of turned to helping 525 00:26:41,892 --> 00:26:44,975 and is serving almost, kind of, babysitter for Logan. 526 00:26:45,062 --> 00:26:46,928 JAC KMAN: It's really important for the dynamic 527 00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:48,933 that exists between Charles and Logan 528 00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:51,937 that there was the third wheel and he's the perfect foil. 529 00:26:52,027 --> 00:26:55,315 And the dynamic between the three of them works perfectly. 530 00:26:55,405 --> 00:26:57,271 You're saving to buy a Sunseeker. 531 00:26:57,366 --> 00:26:58,731 "Sun" is the keyword. 532 00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:02,114 | hardly see myself cowering below decks like Nosferatu. 533 00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:03,239 D0 you? 534 00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:06,664 Folding your underpants, and making him spotted dick. 535 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,491 PARKER: I guess you'd call him kind of the uncle. 536 00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,792 Stephen Merchant plays him, he does a brilliantjob 537 00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:15,294 bringing his, kind of, acerbic wit but tremendous humanity to the character. 538 00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:21,300 MERCHANT: In this film, I play a freakishly tall albino mutant. 539 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:26,009 It's typecasting. I mean, they barely need to do any makeup to make me sort of 540 00:27:26,103 --> 00:27:27,810 ghostly and albino-like. 541 00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:30,558 What a chameleon. He's made a dramatic shift in this. 542 00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:33,140 Every day, seeing him, he's just stark white. 543 00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:34,441 He's almost seven foot tall. 544 00:27:34,528 --> 00:27:37,361 So he's just got one of the coolest characters in the film. 545 00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:40,735 MANGOLD: Stephen just came in and read and he's a remarkably good actor, 546 00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:44,444 and of course has all these unique aspects of personality that he brought to the role. 547 00:27:44,538 --> 00:27:45,824 MERCHANT: I had auditioned With Jim, 548 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:49,498 I sat there and I was expecting to do my lines then be sent away, 549 00:27:49,585 --> 00:27:52,168 but Jim was incredibly animated, he got up on his feet, 550 00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:54,336 he was reading the other lines, he would... 551 00:27:54,423 --> 00:27:57,165 At one point, he took the lines away from me, he said, "You don't need these" 552 00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:00,672 and he made me take my glasses off and then he got me up and then 553 00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:04,050 he grabbed a bag from the casting woman and | had to use that as a prop. 554 00:28:04,141 --> 00:28:06,883 So, it was a veiy live/y, very physical audition, 555 00:28:06,977 --> 00:28:09,093 which I was a little bit kind of oven/vhelmed by 556 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,099 'cause I don't mind improvising and rolling with the punches 557 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:13,557 but I felt a bit like, "Crumbs, I 'm not quite prepared for 558 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,516 "this level of playfulness and animation." 559 00:28:15,611 --> 00:28:18,194 So, | kind of left thinking, "Well, I don't think that he's gonna 560 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,361 "have responded to that." 561 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,485 I never felt like I'd nai/ed it but it turns out 562 00:28:21,575 --> 00:28:23,907 he could see that by prodding me in certain wa ys, 563 00:28:23,994 --> 00:28:26,361 he was getting the reaction that he was looking for, which was great. 564 00:28:26,455 --> 00:28:29,368 A year ago, you asked me to help you. 565 00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:32,450 And God knows I've tried. 566 00:28:33,587 --> 00:28:36,124 But | can't help you, Logan, not really... 567 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:38,497 if you're not going to talk to me. 568 00:28:38,967 --> 00:28:41,459 STEWART: He is an extraordinary performer 569 00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:46,719 and his characterization in this film are very original and unexpected. 570 00:28:46,808 --> 00:28:49,641 And indeed, funny at times too. 571 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,969 Take the gun. Dump the body. 572 00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:53,763 Text me when you're on the way back. 573 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,730 You have anything else you need? 574 00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:57,148 Food for the kid? 575 00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,900 JAC KMAN: He is funny in this. He is also dramatically really, really strong. 576 00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:03,777 Takes it very, very seriously. He did a lot of preparation, 577 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:06,446 a lot of makeup time, but I think he is fantastic. 578 00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:09,574 MERC HANT: Jim wanted my physicality 579 00:29:09,665 --> 00:29:14,455 to be more hunched and ravaged, almost like an old man before his time, 580 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:18,378 like the world has beaten me down, perhaps through kind of i|| health 581 00:29:18,465 --> 00:29:21,628 and through the fact that I struggle to live in this daylight 582 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:24,801 'cause I have problems coping with the sun, so we 've played with that 583 00:29:24,888 --> 00:29:27,220 and the voice and him wanting just for me to seem 584 00:29:27,307 --> 00:29:29,674 lived in and weathered and almost exhausted. 585 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:37,974 I'm gonna need you to do one more thing for the good guys... 586 00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:42,361 and track one more special mute for me. 587 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:45,151 MANGOLD: One of the reasons I love Boyd 588 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:47,483 is I'm always looking for a new shade, 589 00:29:47,577 --> 00:29:52,947 I'm really tired of that, like, 11 on the volume knob of crazy villain. 590 00:29:53,041 --> 00:29:56,830 And again, not unlike the spectacle, I just wanted to step back. 591 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,161 I wanna go, "What if we cast these as real people?" 592 00:29:59,256 --> 00:30:02,794 And yes, we have these crazy appendages and yes, all that's still there, 593 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:04,625 but we're not hamming it up every moment. 594 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,462 I think he's a gifted actor, he does a remarkable job. 595 00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:10,264 BOYD HOLBROOK: What drew me to this role was how it was written. 596 00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:12,967 Donald was such a personality for me 597 00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:17,476 and | loved that he was drawing out a lit bit of his flamboyant side 598 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:19,477 and how engaging he is. 599 00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:22,560 He finds humor in things when it's most inappropriate. 600 00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:26,818 JACKMAN: I actually told him when I read the script I thought, 601 00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:28,819 "That's one of the hardest parts to pull off." 602 00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:32,778 He is the villain. But like all great villains, you're gonna wanna watch him. 603 00:30:32,873 --> 00:30:35,035 I think the greatest villains, like the Alan Rickman 604 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,332 or Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, 605 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:39,410 you can't wait for them to get onscreen, 606 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:42,087 and Jim wrote a character that loved to just chat. 607 00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:43,797 I heard you was in Phoenix. 608 00:30:44,426 --> 00:30:48,010 But then, last night, some friends of mine in Texas HP called... 609 00:30:48,096 --> 00:30:52,306 and told me they found three dead cholos in a pullout on 54. 610 00:30:52,642 --> 00:30:53,848 Not unusual, I know. 611 00:30:54,394 --> 00:30:58,228 Except one was missing a hand, another one a leg. 612 00:30:58,607 --> 00:30:59,938 So they was thinking... 613 00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:03,143 it was either an escaped tiger or Freddy Krueger. 614 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:04,734 JACKMAN: You look at the page and you go, 615 00:31:04,821 --> 00:31:06,528 "Wow, man, this is three pages of dialogue," 616 00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:10,358 but he had a really brilliant way ofjust letting it roll off his tongue 617 00:31:10,452 --> 00:31:14,446 and no take was ever the same, and he was really into it. 618 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:19,074 MANGOLD: Why don't we do this in order? 619 00:31:19,753 --> 00:31:24,213 Boyd brought sort of a charm and... You get the sense that he likes mutants, 620 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:26,506 even though he's tasked with hunting them down, 621 00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:28,709 he sort of has a soft spot for them. 622 00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:31,466 So, there's almost a sort of joy that he takes 623 00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:34,969 in his relationship with them, even as it's perverse. 624 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:38,303 Jesus, Wolverine, seeing you like this just breaks my damn heart. 625 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,266 As soon as I rip it out of your chest, fuck-stick. 626 00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:41,973 (G ROANS) 627 00:31:42,192 --> 00:31:44,479 MERCHANT: Boyd was quite a Iaid-back guy, 628 00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:47,231 but he's able to switch on this real intensity when he's playing Pierce. 629 00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:50,735 Like, he really throws himself into it. I wish I had that level of technique. 630 00:31:50,826 --> 00:31:55,741 He really did a superb job of giving that breadth and that dimension to the role. 631 00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:57,037 Playback! 632 00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:00,241 MANGOLD: The wonderful thing among really good actors 633 00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:02,918 is they instantly know when they're with really good actors. 634 00:32:03,004 --> 00:32:06,122 It's like tennis players. When you hit the ball, you get it back, 635 00:32:06,216 --> 00:32:08,924 and how you get it back is how you're gonna swing next. 636 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:11,001 -There's a lot of reflection. -There's a lot of reflection, yeah. 637 00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:13,178 -Off my pale skin. -(LAUGHING) 638 00:32:13,306 --> 00:32:17,595 MANGOLD: So, my biggest job is to get really good actors together, 639 00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:19,973 and then sometimes managing is stepping back. 640 00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:23,101 What I'd love is for him to have a clean entrance into your shot. 641 00:32:23,191 --> 00:32:25,273 For Hugh and I, and everyone else involved, 642 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,604 we really worked hard to pretend we were not making a superhero movie. 643 00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:33,066 Maybe we weren't even pretending. We felt we were making a dramatic film 644 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,154 that happened to feature these established iconic characters. 645 00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:38,658 And I hope people walk away from the movie 646 00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:41,115 as feeling like they watched a credible, moving, 647 00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:44,042 dramatic film made by artists who give a shit. 648 00:32:44,129 --> 00:32:46,461 Good, cut! Moving on. Very nice, thank you. 649 00:32:46,548 --> 00:32:47,538 Cut! 650 00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:52,297 MAN: (ON RADIO) It's 2029. 651 00:32:52,387 --> 00:32:54,298 Why are we still talking about mutants? 652 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:56,801 JAMES MANGOLD: The movie takes place in the year 2029. 653 00:32:56,892 --> 00:33:01,056 | wanted us to land in a place where we could still see ourselves, 654 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,729 and the here and now, but maybe just a little worse 655 00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:06,056 or a little bigger or more exaggerated. 656 00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:09,477 PATRICK STEWART: James has created a world which is recognizable 657 00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:14,065 and familiar and everyday and in its way, commonplace. 658 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:18,494 And yet wrapped in this maelstrom of fear 659 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:22,699 and excitement and danger and the need to escape. 660 00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:25,576 There are no new mutants. Understand? 661 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:28,833 Hasn't been a new one born in 25 years. Not anywhere. 662 00:33:28,924 --> 00:33:30,585 HUTCH PARKER: Mutants are a dying breed 663 00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:32,962 and that casts a whole new sense to the reality, 664 00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:35,010 the world that Logan now finds himself in. 665 00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:39,431 This movie doesn't have to pay service to these other films. 666 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:43,102 It gives you an opportunity to really do something completely unique. 667 00:33:43,188 --> 00:33:46,601 But setting the movie in the near future is one of the biggest challenges for us 668 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:49,023 because we didn't want to have all these gadgets and gizmos 669 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,772 distracting us from the intimate story. 670 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:55,777 So we 've created a very unique approach where we 've stripped even/thing back. 671 00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:57,699 MANGOLD: While the movie is taking place in the future, 672 00:33:57,786 --> 00:34:00,073 it almost kind of feels slightly retro in a way. 673 00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:02,700 The kind of cultural struggles we 're having right now, 674 00:34:02,791 --> 00:34:04,373 the sense of disconnection, 675 00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:06,700 people living disconnected from one another, 676 00:34:06,795 --> 00:34:09,787 all of that we tried to incorporate without going nuts 677 00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:13,340 and making the movie kind of a dystopian fantasy. 678 00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:16,168 AU DOUY: We have automated trucks that are driving across country, 679 00:34:16,263 --> 00:34:18,300 which is actually probably only a heartbeat away. 680 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,974 We also have automated threshers that are harvesting com in Kansas. 681 00:34:22,477 --> 00:34:25,139 In the background of some shots, we have an automated street sweeper. 682 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:29,394 MANGOLD: I wanted it to be resembling our world. I remember 25 years ago, 683 00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:33,227 people would talk about what the future's gonna be like and here it is, 25 years later, 684 00:34:33,321 --> 00:34:35,483 and New York essentially looks the same, 685 00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:38,232 you know, L.A. essentially looks the same. 686 00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:41,864 The cars change, fashion changes a little, the music we 're listening to. 687 00:34:41,955 --> 00:34:44,993 It can either be the sad or most beautiful thing about humanity, 688 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,575 but the truth is that we don't change that fast. 689 00:34:49,504 --> 00:34:50,494 (SCOFFS) 690 00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:51,750 See? 691 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,672 You're not the only one that's been enhanced. 692 00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,840 MANGOLD: Donald Pierce leads a group called the Reavers, 693 00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:59,090 who are made up of a whole different bunch of amputees 694 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,968 and different kinds of damaged guys with unique Iimbs, 695 00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:04,220 mechanical Iimbs, cyborg limbs built on. 696 00:35:04,311 --> 00:35:06,928 HOLBROOK: Donald has an extensive background in the military. 697 00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:11,858 So he is genetically engineering them notjust to get a robotic Iimb, 698 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:13,604 but to have it that much more functional. 699 00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:19,190 | love the idea of this kind of hardcore, tough as nails bunch of amputee warriors 700 00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:21,616 and that's what I wanted to retain and explore. 701 00:35:21,828 --> 00:35:23,114 (LAURA SPEAKING SPANISH) 702 00:35:23,246 --> 00:35:25,112 This is a long way. 703 00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:28,289 You understand? I am not taking you to North Dakota. 704 00:35:28,585 --> 00:35:32,169 PARKER: It was really important to Jim that we get off the stage 705 00:35:32,255 --> 00:35:34,121 and that we go to practical locations 706 00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:37,128 and shoot it in a way not a lot of movies get made anymore. 707 00:35:37,218 --> 00:35:38,834 MARIA T. BIERNIAK: Jim wanted real places. 708 00:35:38,928 --> 00:35:43,343 He wanted to use real environments and not have to go to a place 709 00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:45,595 and totally remodel it to make it look like 710 00:35:45,685 --> 00:35:47,722 a film crew came in here and scenic-ed it out. 711 00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:51,521 AU DOUY: John Mathieson came on as our DP, who is absolutely terrific 712 00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:55,772 and was really into the idea of using a lot of practicals and available light 713 00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:58,650 and creating a vely realistic, grounded look for the movie. 714 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:02,028 MATHIESON: There's not one glamorous, clean moment in this film. 715 00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:05,035 You know, everyone's grubby, dirty, bruised, cut. 716 00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:06,862 We can be rougher and truer 717 00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:11,075 and walk into a location where the light is unflattering or it's hard. 718 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:15,003 It's middle of the day, hot, burning, shimmering desert, 719 00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:17,502 and white skies, not blue skies, 720 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:20,505 There's a few puffy clouds here and again but it's uncomfortable. 721 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:21,881 PARKER: John 's an incredibly talented guy. 722 00:36:21,971 --> 00:36:24,508 He's got a résumé that anyone would be proud to have, 723 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:29,810 and for all of us, I think, we want to get it to be more real, more in-camera, 724 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:33,685 less digital, less artificial, in whatever ways we could do that, 725 00:36:33,775 --> 00:36:36,858 and we were lucky enough to get John to come and help us do that. 726 00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:38,185 MATHIESON: It's like a road movie to me 727 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:41,362 and very real, closer to those road movies of the '70s. 728 00:36:41,449 --> 00:36:45,408 People on the run, got to move, got to run, got to get away, people in flight. 729 00:36:45,495 --> 00:36:47,156 (ENGINE REVVING) 730 00:36:51,376 --> 00:36:55,040 PARKER: The Iandscapes that we were able to incorporate 731 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:57,292 really did impact the filmmaking. 732 00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:00,374 It informed the actors, it informed production design. 733 00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,335 MANGOLD: We wanted to create this sense of a cross-country journey, 734 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:06,297 heading northward from the EI Paso area to the Dakotas. 735 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,307 AU DO UY: Jim, from the veiy beginning, wanted to get a lot of different looks. 736 00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:14,184 From the dry desert, New Mexico and Texas and Oklahoma into Kansas, 737 00:37:14,274 --> 00:37:18,108 up through South Dakota, North Dakota and then ultimately, the border of Canada. 738 00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:22,233 BIERNIAK: François and I actually had time to go out, poke around and see 739 00:37:22,323 --> 00:37:25,691 what was available and what was out there and we would come back with locations 740 00:37:25,785 --> 00:37:28,618 and it would inspire Jim to change certain things in the script. 741 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:30,241 AU DOUY: With a movie of this size, 742 00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:34,541 it's virtual/y impossible to take 400 people on the road through America. 743 00:37:34,627 --> 00:37:37,710 So the real challenge was to try to figure out 744 00:37:37,797 --> 00:37:42,712 how to land in basically two states and try to get a big look. 745 00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:45,544 MANGOLD: You're gonna start in the EI Paso terrain, 746 00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,299 which we used New Mexico for. 747 00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:49,924 Then you're gonna move slowly into farmland, 748 00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:53,343 which we used southern Mississippi and northern Louisiana for. 749 00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:55,270 We did our stage work in New Orleans. 750 00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:56,892 And then as you move into the Rockies, 751 00:37:56,983 --> 00:37:59,941 we actually return to the highlands of New Mexico, 752 00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:01,268 almost on the Colorado border. 753 00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:05,071 | think you will feel that you're seeing a real journey 754 00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:09,402 in a way that I don't think is quite the same as when we do it digital/y. 755 00:38:09,496 --> 00:38:12,614 There is a bit of color arc in the film in that it starts hot and dry 756 00:38:12,707 --> 00:38:16,416 and they kind of come up to this more green, verdant place. 757 00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:18,585 AU DOUY: There're a lot of natural hues and natural tones 758 00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:20,412 that have been inspired by 759 00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:24,000 the colors of the Mexican desert and the colors of EI Paso, 760 00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:26,300 and going through Kansas and up to the border north. 761 00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:29,971 So, we've been augmenting that with some blues 762 00:38:30,058 --> 00:38:31,548 and warm golds and things. 763 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,054 Trying to create kind of a rich look. 764 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:35,476 In most of these movies, you are under tremendous pressure 765 00:38:35,563 --> 00:38:37,725 to be bigger than the last one. 766 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:42,310 To do something bigger, more fantastic in scope, 767 00:38:42,403 --> 00:38:47,989 Iouder, more intense, and we in a sense withdrew from that entire challenge. 768 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:50,989 So, one of the biggest challenges for the production designer on this film was, 769 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,993 "How do I build these sets? Create these spaces but do it in a way 770 00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:57,666 "that it doesn't feel like just another one of these pictures?" 771 00:38:57,752 --> 00:38:58,833 AU DOUY: Our sets were built 772 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,537 like they were really locations and they had hard ceilings 773 00:39:01,631 --> 00:39:04,840 and a lot of practical lighting and then he would augment that 774 00:39:04,926 --> 00:39:07,008 to create a very believable world. 775 00:39:07,136 --> 00:39:10,470 MATHIESON: Français' designs are not symmetrical or pretty, 776 00:39:10,557 --> 00:39:13,299 they are odd and unusual and real. 777 00:39:13,393 --> 00:39:14,849 You didn't know when you were in a studio, 778 00:39:14,936 --> 00:39:16,267 you didn't know when you were on the road. 779 00:39:16,563 --> 00:39:18,554 (TRAIN BELL DINGING) 780 00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:23,434 We live in this sort of derelict smelting plant, 781 00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,769 as people inevitably do in comic book movies. 782 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:29,323 No one's living in a nice little house in a cul-de-sac somewhere. 783 00:39:29,409 --> 00:39:31,696 They're living in an abandoned smelting plant. 784 00:39:31,786 --> 00:39:33,527 | don't even know what a smelting plant is. 785 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:37,580 STEWART: It's a bizarre set, but it's Charles' home. 786 00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:41,035 It's a grim and uncomfortable and unpleasant place. 787 00:39:41,129 --> 00:39:43,211 You can 't blame them for wanting to get away from it. 788 00:39:43,298 --> 00:39:44,459 MANGOLD: When I first started writing the script 789 00:39:44,549 --> 00:39:46,165 I actually had them starting in Kentucky 790 00:39:46,259 --> 00:39:48,796 and Charles was being kept inside a bourbon tank. 791 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:51,970 And then at some point I moved it to south of the border 792 00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:55,048 and that's when François and I started working on different looks. 793 00:39:55,143 --> 00:39:57,726 AU DOUY: One of my favorite sets was the exterior of the smelting plant 794 00:39:57,812 --> 00:40:00,019 because it was a full build. 795 00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:03,019 Jim wanted to create a chase and a choreography 796 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:05,521 all through the eight-acre site. 797 00:40:05,612 --> 00:40:07,774 And so, it was really creating a world from the ground up. 798 00:40:07,864 --> 00:40:10,731 François made a model of the smelting plant. 799 00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:13,943 And it had this water tower. I've got water towers in other films of mine. 800 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:16,699 Bridges and water towers I 'm forever fascinated with, 801 00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:18,154 and then at some point, you know, 802 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:20,661 us talking about different arrangements of these buildings, 803 00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:24,211 it fell over, and it suddenly looks like a spider 804 00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:25,412 with its legs kind of sticking 805 00:40:25,506 --> 00:40:28,419 like a dead insect or something Iying on its side. 806 00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:32,298 There's actually a little water treatment plant or power plant out there. 807 00:40:32,388 --> 00:40:35,176 It's a very little structure and we built around it, 808 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:36,677 basically, on top of it. 809 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:38,554 And then added the various elements 810 00:40:38,645 --> 00:40:40,636 that we needed to kind of complete the environment. 811 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:43,973 I, personally, if | was living there, I would have had a good sweep. 812 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:46,107 I'd have got a broom, I'd have picked up some of the garbage, 813 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:47,355 I'd have made it more of a home. 814 00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:48,939 If you are planning to blow your brains out... 815 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:50,941 could you wait till you're out on the high seas? 816 00:40:51,032 --> 00:40:52,363 | just mopped these floors. 817 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:56,276 We're standing outside the smelting plant, which is Logan's hideout. 818 00:40:56,496 --> 00:40:57,611 We're supposed to be 819 00:40:57,705 --> 00:41:01,494 somewhere in the desert in Chihuahua, Mexico, outside Juérez. 820 00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:07,205 And we searched for about five months to find the right location to build this set 821 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:10,666 and we found it here about an hour outside Albuquerque, near Rio Rancho. 822 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:13,798 The set's made up of about five main structures 823 00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:17,426 that take up, like, 1.35 acres. It's quite a big set. 824 00:41:17,558 --> 00:41:20,425 There's Charles' tank, that's a fallen water tower. 825 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,010 Then we 've got the main building, 826 00:41:22,105 --> 00:41:25,564 which is where the kitchen is and where our heroes hang out. 827 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:29,393 And we've got Logan's bedroom and the shower room. 828 00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:31,398 It's been repurposed. 829 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:34,106 And these series of catwalks that are designed 830 00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:37,743 to appear like we're taking ore out of the ground, 831 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:40,321 and then up into the main building for processing. 832 00:41:40,415 --> 00:41:43,077 New deal. Cranes move in down there. 833 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:45,875 AU DOUY: And what's wonderful here is you can look in 360 degrees 834 00:41:45,962 --> 00:41:50,172 and not see any signs of homes or habitation. 835 00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,090 So it's really a phenomenal location. 836 00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:56,010 When we started, it was squeaky clean, brand new when we moved in. 837 00:41:56,097 --> 00:41:58,259 So we went through over a period of about two months 838 00:41:58,349 --> 00:42:00,716 and started cladding the entire place 839 00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:03,393 to make it look like it had been forgotten and abandoned. 840 00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:06,471 MATHIESON: Charles is kept in an old tank, which is rusted, 841 00:42:06,607 --> 00:42:09,770 it's like a colander, it's got lots of holes in it, rust holes. 842 00:42:09,861 --> 00:42:12,523 It also has that feeling of the universe and the stars 843 00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:14,024 and that he is connected with everything. 844 00:42:14,157 --> 00:42:16,114 MANGOLD: The reason I kept gravitating toward a tank 845 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,693 was I wanted something that still had some echo of Cerebro, 846 00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:23,280 and also the idea that you're trying to somehow insulate or contain 847 00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:26,992 the power of his brain in some kind of reflective material 848 00:42:27,086 --> 00:42:30,249 that would reduce how many people he could hurt if he had an attack. 849 00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:32,626 You're waiting for me to die. 850 00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:34,670 AU DOUY: It's sort of a bittersweet end to him 851 00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:38,379 where his happy days and his most powerful time 852 00:42:38,473 --> 00:42:42,717 in the previous films was in this spherical structure at the X-Mansion. 853 00:42:42,935 --> 00:42:44,471 (CAR HORN BLARING) 854 00:42:45,646 --> 00:42:47,557 Is this where we're hiding out? 855 00:42:47,648 --> 00:42:50,310 One of the first stops on the journey is a casino. 856 00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:53,610 BIERNIAK: In Louisiana, most of the casinos are water-based paddle boats. 857 00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:57,234 So we actually went to the only land-based casino in town 858 00:42:57,325 --> 00:42:59,862 and it was great for us because it did give us a big Vegas feel 859 00:42:59,952 --> 00:43:02,034 without having to go to Las Vegas. 860 00:43:02,121 --> 00:43:04,863 MANGOLD: That scene was really difficult for a bizarre reason, 861 00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:06,493 which is that even a movie shoot, 862 00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:09,417 anyone under 18 could not set foot in the casino. 863 00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,166 Specifically, in the Louisiana area, 864 00:43:12,298 --> 00:43:16,917 you're just not allowed to have a minor anywhere near the interior of the casino. 865 00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:20,174 PARKER: We had to do little bit of trickery, we had to use doubles. 866 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:23,222 We did some visual effects work to kind of communicate it 867 00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:26,427 and we created sets where we could double the environment. 868 00:43:26,521 --> 00:43:29,354 So between all three of those or four of those little cheats, 869 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,475 we were able to pull it off. 870 00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:32,352 MANGOLD: It's a pretty elaborate special effects scene 871 00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:35,105 that hopefully does not look like a special effects scene at all. 872 00:43:35,196 --> 00:43:38,359 Just so we could walk her from the entrance to the elevator. 873 00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:40,360 -(PEOPLE SCREAMING) -(GROANS) 874 00:43:40,451 --> 00:43:42,533 -(CAR HORN BLARING) -(T|RES SCREECHING) 875 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,282 MANGOLD: Charles' ability to stop everyone in place 876 00:43:48,376 --> 00:43:50,959 and freeze everyone in place is really interesting. 877 00:43:51,045 --> 00:43:54,458 STEWART: In this movie, that's the power that has gone out of control, 878 00:43:54,549 --> 00:43:57,792 because when he is not medicated, 879 00:43:57,885 --> 00:44:02,470 he is Iiable to have seizures, which can impact other people. 880 00:44:02,557 --> 00:44:05,970 Even if they are not even in the same room or the same building with him, 881 00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,051 -and that makes him vely dangerous. -(RUMBLING) 882 00:44:08,187 --> 00:44:09,393 (GLASS BREAKING) 883 00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:12,764 MANGOLD: The idea is that he's actually stopped everyone from breathing. 884 00:44:12,859 --> 00:44:15,396 So they're not only frozen but they're actually drowning. 885 00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:19,320 And that Ied me to imagining, what kind of action sequence could I have? 886 00:44:19,407 --> 00:44:21,648 And something that seemed really chilly 887 00:44:21,742 --> 00:44:24,951 would be the idea of Logan entering a sequence where everyone's frozen 888 00:44:25,037 --> 00:44:27,995 and him picking out every bad guy and essentially gutting them 889 00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:30,995 while they can't even move anything but their eyeballs. 890 00:44:32,211 --> 00:44:35,294 The look was really interesting. There's a lot of technology now 891 00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:37,497 where if someone is too bumpy with their camera, 892 00:44:37,592 --> 00:44:39,708 you can run it through a program that steadies it. 893 00:44:39,802 --> 00:44:43,545 So we did tests before we shot where we were crazy with the camera. 894 00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:46,848 Like crazy shaking it and then we ran it through these programs 895 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:49,517 and of course, once the camera is shaking that much, 896 00:44:49,604 --> 00:44:54,019 it can't ever really bring it down but you get all this beautiful smearing 897 00:44:54,108 --> 00:44:57,521 as the computer is trying to kind of pull together an image 898 00:44:57,612 --> 00:44:59,194 from something that's so Chaotic. 899 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,567 So the whole sequence is actually shot 900 00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:04,649 with the Cameraman on a kind of vibrating rope, 901 00:45:04,744 --> 00:45:06,451 vibrating the camera like crazy. 902 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:10,371 And then we run it through a process which takes all the shake out, 903 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:13,291 but you're left with this kind of smearing effect. 904 00:45:14,128 --> 00:45:15,618 (ALL GASPING) 905 00:45:15,796 --> 00:45:17,127 (ALL PANTING) 906 00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:25,378 CHARLES: We should help them. 907 00:45:27,099 --> 00:45:29,215 No, we have to keep going. Someone will come along. 908 00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:30,721 Someone has come along. 909 00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:32,893 MANGOLD: One thing that happens when you're writing a road picture 910 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:35,062 is you have characters who just arrive. 911 00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:38,016 You just land and you meet them. 912 00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:41,273 They're not here for the whole movie, they're here just to kind of play a role. 913 00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:45,107 And the Munson family is a family that at a mid-point in the movie, 914 00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:48,068 in a moment of repose, a moment of rest, 915 00:45:48,162 --> 00:45:51,371 our heroes have a chance to gather themselves 916 00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:53,869 after their last brush with the Reavers. 917 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,998 AU DO UY: The farm scenes represented the heart of the movie. 918 00:45:57,088 --> 00:45:59,750 It was really important that that feel very, very real. 919 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,253 We were lucky enough to find an amazing farmhouse 920 00:46:03,511 --> 00:46:07,630 in northern Louisiana, which is the only spot in the entire state 921 00:46:07,723 --> 00:46:10,465 where they produce corn at a great quantity. 922 00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:14,769 So the farmhouse was surrounded by acres and acres of corn in all directions. 923 00:46:14,855 --> 00:46:18,849 And it happened to be this incredible house that was built in the 18303 924 00:46:18,943 --> 00:46:22,732 that hadn 't really been modified and then we recreated the interior on stage. 925 00:46:22,822 --> 00:46:26,611 The family environment, the place that Logan has not been to, 926 00:46:26,701 --> 00:46:29,113 whether it's been years, decades, whatever. 927 00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:31,285 It's a place he's not comfortable in. 928 00:46:31,372 --> 00:46:33,784 It's a place Charles has been yearning for, 929 00:46:33,874 --> 00:46:38,084 and it's the first time that our young actress has ever seen a family dinner. 930 00:46:38,170 --> 00:46:42,789 Ever seen family photos, mementos, a place of that environment. 931 00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:47,298 It's a scene of such warmth and mutual affection, 932 00:46:47,388 --> 00:46:49,345 and understanding and good humor, 933 00:46:49,432 --> 00:46:52,550 and good food in a domestic environment, 934 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:56,261 which is not something that you have seen much in this franchise. 935 00:46:56,397 --> 00:46:57,887 You know, Logan... 936 00:46:58,357 --> 00:47:00,724 this is what life looks like. 937 00:47:01,402 --> 00:47:03,894 A home, people who love each other. 938 00:47:04,196 --> 00:47:05,436 Safe place. 939 00:47:05,531 --> 00:47:07,898 You should take a moment and feel it. 940 00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:11,029 When the Munsons die, 941 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,239 for no better reason than our heroes have sadly stopped there to rest, 942 00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:18,075 it launches a very dark movement of the film 943 00:47:18,169 --> 00:47:20,536 in which Logan and Laura are trapped together. 944 00:47:20,629 --> 00:47:24,213 You're trying as a screenwriter to lift an audience up, 945 00:47:24,967 --> 00:47:28,255 and then, however cruel it sounds, drop them as hard as you can. 946 00:47:28,346 --> 00:47:30,678 So what we're trying to do is to, kind of, 947 00:47:30,765 --> 00:47:35,510 allow Logan this glimpse of life and then to rip it. 948 00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:38,721 In a sense, proving Logan right. It's like, "No, the world... 949 00:47:38,814 --> 00:47:41,431 "That is not for me and wi|| never be for me." 950 00:47:42,902 --> 00:47:45,109 (MAN TALKING INDISTINCTLY) 951 00:47:46,364 --> 00:47:48,150 You gotta be fucking kidding me. 952 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,574 AU DOUY: The idea of Eden is actually three parts. 953 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,699 First, it's this image that appears in a comic book 954 00:47:55,790 --> 00:48:00,125 as a fantastical sort of creation from a comic book artist, 955 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:02,794 and it turns out that it does not exist. 956 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,212 It's just a bunch of dusty rocks 957 00:48:05,299 --> 00:48:08,712 with an old, abandoned ranger station sitting on top of the mesa. 958 00:48:08,803 --> 00:48:11,044 That was the second part that had to be designed. 959 00:48:11,138 --> 00:48:14,972 What's in the comic book looks grander and more splendiferous and designed, 960 00:48:15,059 --> 00:48:16,891 but there is a sanctuary for these children. 961 00:48:16,977 --> 00:48:18,559 We want it as minimal as possible, 962 00:48:18,646 --> 00:48:22,514 meaning you have this duality of the kind of fantasy one and reality one. 963 00:48:22,608 --> 00:48:26,067 PARKER: Where the mutant kids are waiting is outside of Abiquiu 964 00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:28,440 where Georgia O'Keeffe painted and famously lived, 965 00:48:28,531 --> 00:48:31,569 and it's this very unique and distinctive landscape. 966 00:48:31,992 --> 00:48:33,903 François built these two structures there. 967 00:48:33,994 --> 00:48:35,200 He built the watchtower, 968 00:48:35,287 --> 00:48:39,201 which is mimicking a fire ranger's station, and the bunkhouse. 969 00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:40,656 I love the ranger tower. 970 00:48:40,751 --> 00:48:42,867 It's got all this promise, it's got all this hope, 971 00:48:42,962 --> 00:48:45,420 that sense of scope and scale, all the windows. 972 00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:46,837 You feel like they're perched, 973 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,666 ready to take that final step across the border. 974 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,001 So I know François had a great time with that 975 00:48:52,096 --> 00:48:55,134 and the art department in general had a great time dressing those environments. 976 00:48:55,224 --> 00:48:57,932 We had to create a little environment that is believable, 977 00:48:58,018 --> 00:49:00,601 that for the first time in their lives, these kids are free. 978 00:49:00,688 --> 00:49:05,228 For the first time they're at a campfire, out in the stars, working together. 979 00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:07,979 They've had to take these skills that they learned as mercenaries 980 00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:09,185 and bring them together. 981 00:49:09,447 --> 00:49:10,983 RICTOR: You see the woods? 982 00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:12,480 Si. 983 00:49:12,575 --> 00:49:14,282 -|t's an 8-mile hike through there. -(BOYS WHOOPING) 984 00:49:15,077 --> 00:49:16,283 And you see that pass? 985 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:17,701 That's where we wi|| be safe. 986 00:49:17,788 --> 00:49:23,204 The third part of Eden is these woods where our heroes end up 987 00:49:23,294 --> 00:49:26,286 on the very border with freedom on the other side of the cliffs. 988 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:29,463 For that, we had to find vely impressive 989 00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:33,134 and awesome visual of gigantic cliffs that had to be traversed. 990 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:37,134 We're really lucky to find them here at Brazos Cliffs in northern New Mexico, 991 00:49:37,224 --> 00:49:40,967 where we're flanked with 1,200-foot Precambrian cliffs 992 00:49:41,061 --> 00:49:43,644 that are really impressive on one side of the set 993 00:49:43,731 --> 00:49:45,972 and then some really beautiful forests on the other. 994 00:49:46,066 --> 00:49:50,355 BIERNIAK: We wanted to expand the feel of the film and give it some larger scope. 995 00:49:50,446 --> 00:49:53,484 Brazos Cliffs gives us an architectural element 996 00:49:53,574 --> 00:49:55,656 and something to focus on in the background. 997 00:49:55,743 --> 00:50:01,489 AU DOUY: They gave us a really wonderful, flexible space to create the final showdown 998 00:50:01,582 --> 00:50:04,665 where we get to see Logan and his last stand. 999 00:50:04,752 --> 00:50:06,914 MAN: Three, two, one, action! 1000 00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:08,290 -(GRUNTS) -(GUNSHOTS) 1001 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:09,996 - Ahh! 1002 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:11,080 -(GRUNTS) -(GROANS) 1003 00:50:11,383 --> 00:50:13,169 I'm hoping that when people see this movie, 1004 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:17,345 they're gonna be really surprised at how refreshing and new it is. 1005 00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,217 MANGOLD: Using real locations whenever we could, 1006 00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:21,094 real Vehicles, real driving. 1007 00:50:21,185 --> 00:50:23,597 There's a certain reality when someone's riding in a car, 1008 00:50:23,687 --> 00:50:26,475 the way the wind's blowing on them, the way the Iight's changing around them 1009 00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:28,852 and even the performance, when the world is really going by. 1010 00:50:28,943 --> 00:50:31,526 They're not sitting in a green void watching nothing, 1011 00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:34,528 or watching a guy eating a tuna sandwich from the crafties. 1012 00:50:34,615 --> 00:50:36,822 That's a lot of what we're after. 1013 00:50:36,909 --> 00:50:40,447 The production designer, the DP and I are trying to get a very naturalistic film. 1014 00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:41,528 Hello. 1015 00:50:45,459 --> 00:50:49,453 I think that if there was a breathing... Almost like him breathing, kind of... 1016 00:50:49,547 --> 00:50:54,417 This very slow, kind of tide coming in, going away. 1017 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:56,092 HUTCH PARKER: Marco Beltrami is doing the score 1018 00:50:56,178 --> 00:50:57,919 and Jim's worked with him a number of times, as have I. 1019 00:50:58,264 --> 00:51:00,050 JAMES MANGOLD: In the score, the big effort is 1020 00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:03,678 to not let go of the feeling that this movie is different. 1021 00:51:03,769 --> 00:51:04,930 Okay, here we go. 1022 00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:07,721 MANGOLD: I don't want that big heroic score. 1023 00:51:07,815 --> 00:51:12,275 I don't want trumpets for the good guys and dark bass for the bad guys. 1024 00:51:12,361 --> 00:51:14,602 I want us to find a new formula. 1025 00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:17,735 MARCO BELTRAMI: When I first heard that it's a Wolverine movie, 1026 00:51:17,866 --> 00:51:20,073 it brought to mind certain expectations. 1027 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,901 Then knowing that Jim was on it, 1028 00:51:21,996 --> 00:51:25,910 I had different expectations 'cause Jim definitely twists things. 1029 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,833 PARKER: The foundational language of the film is emotion 1030 00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:33,504 and the score will have the challenge of serving that to some degree first, 1031 00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:36,959 but also in concert with the scale and scope of this character, 1032 00:51:37,052 --> 00:51:41,216 the scale of this journey, the sense of jeopardy and the sense of risk 1033 00:51:41,307 --> 00:51:43,344 and intensity of the action sequences. 1034 00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:48,811 MANGOLD: For Marco and I, the job becomes looking toward the Western, 1035 00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:51,855 looking toward older action films, '70s cop movies. 1036 00:51:51,942 --> 00:51:56,277 How do you solve the problems of building stakes, transitioning scenes, 1037 00:51:56,363 --> 00:51:59,822 and doing that without trying to kind of bloat the movie, 1038 00:51:59,908 --> 00:52:03,742 and stay true to the intimacy of the journey these characters have been on? 1039 00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:08,539 Jim referenced Taxi Driver and a couple Jerry Fielding scores from the '70s. 1040 00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:14,463 He wanted that gritty, unmanipulated, unrounded sound of a tighter ensemble 1041 00:52:14,548 --> 00:52:18,963 that didn't necessarily ha ve to be Hollywood or orchestral in nature. 1042 00:52:19,053 --> 00:52:22,466 And we actually tried putting some period scores to the thing. 1043 00:52:22,556 --> 00:52:25,048 It looked off, it had to be modern as well, 1044 00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:28,510 so the idea is to go for that intensity of '70s score, 1045 00:52:28,604 --> 00:52:31,471 but with more modern scoring techniques. 1046 00:52:31,565 --> 00:52:35,559 It's not a very melodic score. It's more of a textural thing. 1047 00:52:35,653 --> 00:52:37,610 Recording stuff with carbon microphones. 1048 00:52:37,696 --> 00:52:41,985 It ñlters out a lot of the warmth and tonal characteristics 1049 00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:44,033 and gives more of a gritty sound. 1050 00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,448 This is who I've been telling you about. 1051 00:52:46,747 --> 00:52:48,033 This is Laura. 1052 00:52:49,208 --> 00:52:50,619 We've been waiting for you. 1053 00:52:51,126 --> 00:52:52,742 BELTRAMI: There are some themes in it 1054 00:52:52,836 --> 00:52:55,794 that might not be melodic themes in the way that you're used to. 1055 00:52:56,256 --> 00:52:58,088 We have Laura's theme, 1056 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:02,419 which is also sort of the mystery because we don't really know who she is. 1057 00:53:07,351 --> 00:53:11,219 There's a theme for Logan, which is based on a lot of sonic stuff 1058 00:53:11,313 --> 00:53:12,724 but also this harmonica thing. 1059 00:53:12,815 --> 00:53:15,603 MANGOLD: We have two kinds. Real, standard German-made harmonicas 1060 00:53:15,693 --> 00:53:17,183 and also glass harmonicas. 1061 00:53:17,277 --> 00:53:18,767 BELTRAMI: Sometimes it's blended with other instruments 1062 00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:20,068 and it becomes more of a texture. 1063 00:53:20,155 --> 00:53:24,365 Sometimes it's even just the breath effect through the harmonica 1064 00:53:24,451 --> 00:53:26,658 and sometimes it's used as a melodic instrument. 1065 00:53:26,995 --> 00:53:29,032 (FOREBODING MUSIC PLAYING) 1066 00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:32,372 Go get her. 1067 00:53:32,459 --> 00:53:35,201 BELTRAMI: You know, there's also a theme for the bad guys, 1068 00:53:35,295 --> 00:53:39,129 which is like a textural bending thing, it's a lower range. 1069 00:53:46,682 --> 00:53:51,051 That's better, I think we could do even a little bit more bending as we exit. 1070 00:53:51,437 --> 00:53:53,269 (ENGINE REVVING) 1071 00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:54,645 (GUNSHOTS) 1072 00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,392 BELTRAMI: Character, we 've seen, is different. 1073 00:53:59,486 --> 00:54:02,979 The smelting plant action scene is a completely different feel 1074 00:54:03,073 --> 00:54:05,986 from the Logan fighting X-24. 1075 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:07,066 (ROARS) 1076 00:54:09,371 --> 00:54:13,615 Which is much more of a conceptual thing than like a chase scene, 1077 00:54:13,709 --> 00:54:18,454 which has similarities too but it's different from the farmhouse murder scene, 1078 00:54:18,547 --> 00:54:21,790 which has almost like some horrific elements to it. 1079 00:54:22,468 --> 00:54:24,004 Put her down. 1080 00:54:24,344 --> 00:54:27,177 They're all based on similar ideas but go in different directions. 1081 00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:28,345 One, 1082 00:54:29,057 --> 00:54:30,092 two. 1083 00:54:30,684 --> 00:54:32,550 (PLAYING INTENSE MUSIC) 1084 00:54:41,612 --> 00:54:46,823 The composer has to find a way to bring together all those different ideas 1085 00:54:46,909 --> 00:54:50,027 but in this case, I do think you'll find it feels different. 1086 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,862 It's trying to find the alchemy of the sound 1087 00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:56,199 that somehow just doesn't feel "been there, done that." 1088 00:54:56,418 --> 00:54:58,910 And also doesn't signal for the audience 1089 00:54:59,004 --> 00:55:01,371 that you're watching just another one of these movies. 1090 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:10,049 (INDISTINCT TALKING) 1091 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,590 (G ROANS) 1092 00:55:12,684 --> 00:55:15,096 GARRETT WARREN: Hugh's been doing this character for about 20 years now 1093 00:55:15,187 --> 00:55:17,929 and this character was designed by someone in a comic book world. 1094 00:55:18,023 --> 00:55:19,263 However, he adapted it. 1095 00:55:19,358 --> 00:55:22,976 He came in and made this thing real, flesh and blood, and at the same time, 1096 00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:25,277 he's also helped driven who it is on the screen. 1097 00:55:25,364 --> 00:55:27,230 Nobody knows this character better than he does. 1098 00:55:27,324 --> 00:55:30,692 Block here, grab him here. Around his arms, here more. 1099 00:55:30,786 --> 00:55:32,868 -If you can, grab up high on here... -Yup. 1100 00:55:32,955 --> 00:55:36,869 HUGH JACKMAN: We worked quite a while beforehand preparing the stunts, 1101 00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:40,327 because it wasn't just about "slice, slice, punch, punch." 1102 00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:42,161 This is all great, right? 1103 00:55:42,256 --> 00:55:43,997 Just bring the gun a little higher so it's not low. 1104 00:55:44,091 --> 00:55:45,377 -So you can see it. -Yeah, and then 1105 00:55:45,467 --> 00:55:48,300 stretch your arm outjust a little bit wider to the right when you kill him. 1106 00:55:48,387 --> 00:55:49,923 -Go back to just when he... -Yeah, I cut it short. 1107 00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:51,344 -I was too close to him. -Okay, good. There you go. 1108 00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:53,798 JAMES MANGOLD: Hugh Jackman's Incredible at these fight sequences. 1109 00:55:53,892 --> 00:55:57,385 You will show him three moves, and then suddenly he's doing them 1110 00:55:57,479 --> 00:56:01,347 and coming incredibly close to getting hit and he's just physically sharp. 1111 00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:04,354 STEVE BROWN: Hugh has done almost all of his action and stunts. 1112 00:56:04,444 --> 00:56:05,479 He's phenomenal. 1113 00:56:05,571 --> 00:56:08,654 He doesn'tjust learn quickly, but he sells the character, he's safe 1114 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:10,481 and he makes it look very, very good. 1115 00:56:10,576 --> 00:56:13,489 RICHARD E. GRANT: His arms are bigger than my thighs. 1116 00:56:13,579 --> 00:56:16,947 He gets up at 3:00 in the morning and goes to the gym for two hours. 1117 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,079 And eats constantly throughout the day and is so disciplined in order to do that. 1118 00:56:21,169 --> 00:56:23,536 BOYD HOLBROOK: He's just so about the work. 1119 00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:27,214 You have to have a certain integrity and work ethic for all this to happen. 1120 00:56:27,301 --> 00:56:31,215 And so when Hugh invites you to go on a 5:00 a.m. run, 1121 00:56:31,305 --> 00:56:33,421 you go on a 5:00 a.m. run and it's fun. 1122 00:56:33,515 --> 00:56:34,971 HUTCH PARKER: The stunt training is pretty rigorous 1123 00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:38,176 and in this case, we were going for a harder-edged tone. 1124 00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:42,264 So the fight sequences are more intense. They are inherently bloody, more violent, 1125 00:56:42,357 --> 00:56:44,189 and in some ways, could have been more disturbing. 1126 00:56:44,318 --> 00:56:45,308 (SCREAMS) 1127 00:56:45,485 --> 00:56:47,897 BROWN: In the past couple of films, the stunt coordinators 1128 00:56:47,988 --> 00:56:50,275 and the fight choreographers of those films were amazing. 1129 00:56:50,365 --> 00:56:53,733 They did a fantastic job. Their only Iimitation was the rating. 1130 00:56:54,202 --> 00:56:56,159 And when you have six knives on your hands, 1131 00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:58,328 it's hard to showcase a lot of the action. 1132 00:56:58,415 --> 00:57:02,249 And now that we finally have that rating, we're able to really show it and go for it. 1133 00:57:02,336 --> 00:57:03,497 WARREN: We get to decapitate people. 1134 00:57:04,129 --> 00:57:05,210 Cut arms off. 1135 00:57:05,297 --> 00:57:08,255 Stab people in the throat so the claws come out the other side of their face. 1136 00:57:08,508 --> 00:57:11,591 We get to do things that you couldn 't do on a regular movie, 1137 00:57:11,678 --> 00:57:14,545 but would happen in real life if you had these weapons. 1138 00:57:14,681 --> 00:57:17,139 -MAN: Boom! Claws come out. -(GROANS) 1139 00:57:17,225 --> 00:57:19,592 Claws come out, he blocks it. Good, nice. 1140 00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,643 Head hit, nice. Body hit right there, Tim. 1141 00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:22,720 (LAUGHS) 1142 00:57:23,023 --> 00:57:24,764 Good, and that's a cut. A|| right? 1143 00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:26,519 WARREN: The fighting style was already there. 1144 00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:28,817 It's kind of hard to neglect the fact that he's got claws. 1145 00:57:28,904 --> 00:57:31,692 It was not like you're going out there trying to do big, huge jump kicks. 1146 00:57:31,782 --> 00:57:32,988 Why would he jump in the air and kick someone 1147 00:57:33,075 --> 00:57:34,691 when he's got these knives on his knuckles? 1148 00:57:34,785 --> 00:57:37,903 JP JONES: The number one thing anybody on the crew wants to see 1149 00:57:37,996 --> 00:57:40,112 or anybody wants to talk about are the claws. 1150 00:57:40,207 --> 00:57:43,370 Hands down, the claws are the biggest deal in the movie. 1151 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:46,293 We obvious/y took a design from the last Wolverine. 1152 00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:49,498 That was the last incarnation of the claws that have changed a few times. 1153 00:57:49,591 --> 00:57:53,676 So what we did was we took those claws and we tarnished them. 1154 00:57:53,762 --> 00:57:56,754 We sandblasted them, sent them out to have them acid-etched, 1155 00:57:56,848 --> 00:58:00,261 and at the end, we came up with one that just enough of the edge is off it. 1156 00:58:00,894 --> 00:58:03,386 MAN: Gonna get some green for this shit right here, homes. 1157 00:58:04,648 --> 00:58:06,184 Ah, fuck. 1158 00:58:06,274 --> 00:58:09,608 In the first 30 seconds of the film, you're finding Logan 1159 00:58:09,903 --> 00:58:11,359 drunk in the back of his own Iimousine, 1160 00:58:11,446 --> 00:58:17,783 waking as his car is being jacked up and stripped by a EI Paso street gang. 1161 00:58:17,869 --> 00:58:19,030 Guys? 1162 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,492 Those are chrome-plated Iugs. You're gonna strip them. 1163 00:58:22,582 --> 00:58:23,572 MAN: Look at this guy, eh? 1164 00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:25,032 The plating flakes off. 1165 00:58:25,293 --> 00:58:26,328 Yeah? 1166 00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:28,957 This is a lease. No one's gonna pay to ride... 1167 00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:30,458 -(GUNSHOT) -(MEN LAUGHING) 1168 00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,293 MANGOLD: And what I wanted to see is, 1169 00:58:32,384 --> 00:58:36,002 this is a character who, when he Ioses his temper, it's ugly. 1170 00:58:36,096 --> 00:58:39,589 And it's ugly in a way, and merciless in a way we haven't seen before. 1171 00:58:39,683 --> 00:58:43,392 BROWN: It's the first time we get to see the whole rated-R feeling and just seeing how 1172 00:58:43,478 --> 00:58:45,219 right out of the gates, Logan is different. 1173 00:58:45,772 --> 00:58:48,560 Logan is not the same. He's older, he doesn't move the same. 1174 00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:50,732 And then seeing how that switch just flips. 1175 00:58:51,028 --> 00:58:52,063 MAN: Action! 1176 00:58:54,406 --> 00:58:55,396 BROWN: It's that berserker rage 1177 00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:57,652 that oven/vhelmed and took over for that moment 1178 00:58:57,743 --> 00:59:00,405 and then he kind of falls back to himself as Logan. 1179 00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:02,532 And I think it's a very powerful, strong opening to the movie. 1180 00:59:02,831 --> 00:59:07,075 There's a certain kind of vicarious thrill to watching this kind of blood battle. 1181 00:59:07,169 --> 00:59:10,036 And it also communicates, "Yes, we're going there. 1182 00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:11,416 "So fasten your seatbelts." 1183 00:59:11,506 --> 00:59:12,871 -(GRUNTS) -(BOTTLE SHATTERS) 1184 00:59:13,467 --> 00:59:16,630 Most of my training was based around learning the fights, yes, 1185 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,008 but also learning the different physicalities of X-24 and Logan. 1186 00:59:20,098 --> 00:59:21,714 MANGOLD: When I was working on the last Wolverine, 1187 00:59:21,808 --> 00:59:25,221 the Western Shane rang in my ears all the time 1188 00:59:25,312 --> 00:59:28,555 because it was this curse of being this kind of violent hero. 1189 00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:30,730 Means that you are forever guilty. 1190 00:59:30,817 --> 00:59:36,859 If Logan is a character like Shane who has a past that haunts him, 1191 00:59:37,324 --> 00:59:40,737 then what could be worse for him to have to face 1192 00:59:40,827 --> 00:59:45,446 than almost looking at himself 50 years ago, when he was Weapon X. 1193 00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:49,704 JAC KMAN: Weapon X, Wolverine, was perfect except for his heart. 1194 00:59:49,795 --> 00:59:52,457 He had that goodness to him, and if he just didn't have that 1195 00:59:52,547 --> 00:59:53,833 he would have been the perfect killing machine. 1196 00:59:54,174 --> 00:59:57,087 But he had a heart, he had a conscience, he had a mind, 1197 00:59:57,177 --> 01:00:01,216 and he didn 't just blind/y follow whatever order he was given. 1198 01:00:01,306 --> 01:00:05,265 So what has created X-24 is just 1199 01:00:05,352 --> 01:00:09,186 the berserk rage of Wolverine, 24/7. 1200 01:00:09,272 --> 01:00:13,891 That's all he is. He's just animal, destruction, rage. 1201 01:00:14,402 --> 01:00:16,143 -(MAN SCREAMS) -(GRUNTS) 1202 01:00:16,488 --> 01:00:17,569 -(WOMAN SCREAMS) -(LOGAN GRUNTS) 1203 01:00:18,031 --> 01:00:19,021 (GUNSHOT) 1204 01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:20,488 DR. RICE: Get back here! 1205 01:00:20,575 --> 01:00:21,815 Stop! Stop now! 1206 01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:23,992 The most powerful thing he could have to face, 1207 01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:26,696 the one thing, I think, he probably wouldn't be able to beat 1208 01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:28,656 would be a vision of himself. 1209 01:00:28,750 --> 01:00:32,960 Yet to see Logan see himself for the first time in X-24, 1210 01:00:33,046 --> 01:00:35,413 and subsequently, for the two of them to fight, 1211 01:00:35,507 --> 01:00:38,966 fight fue/ed by Logan having witnessed Charles murdered, 1212 01:00:39,052 --> 01:00:43,467 and the rage of that and confronting a new, healthy Wolverine in X-24. 1213 01:00:43,557 --> 01:00:45,139 It was a pretty amazing sequence. 1214 01:00:45,225 --> 01:00:48,308 | get to play him and fight myself, 1215 01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:51,057 which I have to tell you, was very strange. 1216 01:00:51,231 --> 01:00:52,221 (SCREAMS) 1217 01:00:58,864 --> 01:00:59,854 (SCREAMS) 1218 01:01:00,407 --> 01:01:02,068 In a way, you're at a tremendous advantage 1219 01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:05,823 because now I have an incredible actor in his physical ability playing two roles. 1220 01:01:05,912 --> 01:01:08,324 But of course, to stage those scenes, we had two doubles. 1221 01:01:08,415 --> 01:01:09,746 One to play Logan, 1222 01:01:09,833 --> 01:01:12,325 and one to play bad Logan, if you will. 1223 01:01:12,419 --> 01:01:14,751 And Hugh would jump between. 1224 01:01:14,838 --> 01:01:18,172 BROWN: Logan, in this film, already has a lot of trials and tribulations 1225 01:01:18,258 --> 01:01:20,875 that he's going through, whether it's emotional or physical. 1226 01:01:20,969 --> 01:01:23,836 And to see him battling that and then to see a fresher, 1227 01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:26,262 younger version of himself, and all the emotion that went into it, 1228 01:01:26,349 --> 01:01:29,057 it was kind of beautiful to see how it all played out. 1229 01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:32,603 JACKMAN: We wanted to have different physicality for both of them. 1230 01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:35,477 We worked really hard on trying to distinguish the body language. 1231 01:01:35,567 --> 01:01:38,935 One is aging, one is ill, one is older, 1232 01:01:39,029 --> 01:01:42,238 and one is more animalistic and younger and invincible. 1233 01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:45,441 We gave him, at one point, a whole different forehead 1234 01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:49,199 and nose and eyes. I wore contact lenses. 1235 01:01:49,289 --> 01:01:52,498 But it just ended up becoming a little silly so we pulled it back, 1236 01:01:52,584 --> 01:01:54,621 and if you look closer, I have a slightly different nose. 1237 01:01:54,711 --> 01:01:56,497 You immediately know it's me, 1238 01:01:56,588 --> 01:02:01,207 but just something in your brain, hopefully, when watching it, just goes, 1239 01:02:01,301 --> 01:02:03,793 "Something... Something a little off there. | don't know what it is." 1240 01:02:03,887 --> 01:02:06,424 JOEL HARLOW: The hair is really whatjumps out, almost instant/y, 1241 01:02:06,514 --> 01:02:09,552 because Logan has got a full head of hair, a full beard. 1242 01:02:09,643 --> 01:02:11,680 X-24 is buzz cut. 1243 01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:14,558 He's shaved into the traditional sort of Wolverine chops. 1244 01:02:14,648 --> 01:02:16,434 So that instant/y sets them apart. 1245 01:02:16,524 --> 01:02:17,559 What the hell are you? 1246 01:02:17,776 --> 01:02:20,234 (BOTH YELLING) 1247 01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:26,861 X-24 is newer, better, stronger, faster. 1248 01:02:26,952 --> 01:02:30,070 So he has the last version of the Wolverine claws. 1249 01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:32,951 They're shiny, new and evezything about them is perfect. 1250 01:02:33,041 --> 01:02:35,749 JACKMAN: I've worked with a Stuntman for ages, Dan Stevens. 1251 01:02:35,835 --> 01:02:37,325 If I 'm not doing something, he's doing it, right? 1252 01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:38,876 So if it's too dangerous for me, he does it. 1253 01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:40,204 All of a sudden, we were opposite each other 1254 01:02:40,298 --> 01:02:42,460 because when I was playing X-24, 1255 01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:45,759 he would play Logan, and on the very first take, 1256 01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:48,678 | accidentally hit him in the jaw. (CHUCKLES) 1257 01:02:49,182 --> 01:02:51,423 And he looked at me and he goes, "Is this the way it's gonna go?" 1258 01:02:51,518 --> 01:02:54,010 -MAN: Action! -(GRUNTING) Ah! 1259 01:02:54,562 --> 01:02:57,270 WARREN: For Logan fighting Logan, or Logan fighting X-24, 1260 01:02:57,357 --> 01:02:59,268 we had to have two stunt doubles, basically, 1261 01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:01,475 because we always have to have someone doubling Hugh Jackman 1262 01:03:01,569 --> 01:03:03,526 as well as someone playing X-24, let me say. 1263 01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:06,446 And then once we shoot the scene, we have to shoot it almost over again, 1264 01:03:06,533 --> 01:03:07,614 flip-flopped the other way. 1265 01:03:07,951 --> 01:03:10,443 JACKMAN: Garrett Warren, I've worked with on two other films. 1266 01:03:10,537 --> 01:03:13,450 He's phenomenal and crazy. 1267 01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:15,952 Absolute crazy son of a bitch and I love him. 1268 01:03:16,042 --> 01:03:17,828 Good. Exactly. That's it. That's all. 1269 01:03:17,919 --> 01:03:19,375 -You know what | mean? -That's great, I love it. 1270 01:03:19,462 --> 01:03:23,581 JAC KMAN: And he's perfect for this. He totally got that Wolverine berserk right. 1271 01:03:25,051 --> 01:03:29,136 MANGOLD: For me, the brute/ity of seeing a Logan-on-Logan fight 1272 01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:33,181 ultimately felt like something more threatening to each character 1273 01:03:33,268 --> 01:03:35,259 and more interesting to each character. 1274 01:03:35,353 --> 01:03:39,768 The sense of Logan looking in a mirror and seeing the darkest, 1275 01:03:39,858 --> 01:03:43,601 most shameful part of his own life and being faced with it. 1276 01:03:43,695 --> 01:03:44,730 -(ENGINE REWING) -(GRUNTS) 1277 01:03:44,946 --> 01:03:46,937 -(CRASHING) -(GLASS SHATTERS) 1278 01:03:48,742 --> 01:03:49,823 (GRUNTING) 1279 01:03:49,909 --> 01:03:52,651 Good, exactly. Turn around and then go. 1280 01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:54,570 Boom, boom! 1281 01:03:54,664 --> 01:03:56,951 Good, yes. That's good. 1282 01:03:57,042 --> 01:04:00,455 For X-23, Laura, we wanted the feel that she's Wolverine, 1283 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,206 but in her own way. 1284 01:04:02,297 --> 01:04:04,379 And using her height and size to her advantage, 1285 01:04:04,466 --> 01:04:07,333 so being more nimble and fluid with her movement. 1286 01:04:07,427 --> 01:04:09,088 -(GROANS) -(SCREAMS) 1287 01:04:10,638 --> 01:04:14,347 JACKMAN: Dafne did a Iot of training, particularly with that kind of character, 1288 01:04:14,434 --> 01:04:15,515 a young character, 1289 01:04:15,602 --> 01:04:18,014 the more you can have the kid in there 1290 01:04:18,104 --> 01:04:20,721 and for the audience really to believe it's her, the better. 1291 01:04:20,815 --> 01:04:23,056 MANGOLD: It's very hard to double an 11-year-old. 1292 01:04:23,151 --> 01:04:28,021 So I wanted a young woman who could own the kind of intensity of the action, 1293 01:04:28,114 --> 01:04:33,280 because a lot of the way an actor can justify the physicality of a role 1294 01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:34,701 is if they can really own it. 1295 01:04:34,788 --> 01:04:37,826 If it feels like they would have done that and it's not pretend. 1296 01:04:37,916 --> 01:04:41,534 And that was a lot of what we worked on in rehearsals as well, and in the gym. 1297 01:04:41,628 --> 01:04:44,040 We had to have her train in Spain before she got here 1298 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:46,087 so that she had some kind of skills before she came. 1299 01:04:46,174 --> 01:04:48,131 So it was martial arts classes that she went into. 1300 01:04:48,218 --> 01:04:50,835 When she got here, we had about a month to train with her. 1301 01:04:50,929 --> 01:04:55,389 I was really worried at the beginning, like, I have to know my stunt choreographies, 1302 01:04:55,475 --> 01:04:57,887 but then when you get here they kind of change them all the time. 1303 01:04:57,977 --> 01:04:59,638 So you don't have to worry too much. 1304 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,845 (LAURA SCREAMS) 1305 01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:05,140 -(SCREAMS) -(MAN ROARING) 1306 01:05:06,236 --> 01:05:07,897 BROWN: It's a hard thing to gauge, you know, 1307 01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:10,945 at first when you first meet such a young actress like that. 1308 01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:12,318 You're trying to gauge her personality. 1309 01:05:12,409 --> 01:05:14,901 You wanna know how hard and how much you can push them, 1310 01:05:14,994 --> 01:05:17,736 and with Dafne, right from day one, she was excited. 1311 01:05:17,831 --> 01:05:18,992 For her it was like a playground. 1312 01:05:19,082 --> 01:05:20,197 *Gol 1313 01:05:20,417 --> 01:05:21,407 (SCREAMS) 1314 01:05:22,127 --> 01:05:23,834 -Ahh! -(SCREAMS) 1315 01:05:24,587 --> 01:05:25,793 BROWN: When she was doing her action, 1316 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,542 she understood that, you know, as the character, 1317 01:05:28,633 --> 01:05:29,873 things that needed to be visceral. 1318 01:05:29,968 --> 01:05:32,380 When she's killing someone, it had to have emotion in it 1319 01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:34,882 and I thought she did a phenomenal job bringing that to life. 1320 01:05:34,973 --> 01:05:37,340 JACKMAN: She worked hard... I'm not gonna say, "Work " She loved it. 1321 01:05:37,434 --> 01:05:40,392 She didn't wanna leave stunt training. She absolutely loved it. 1322 01:05:40,478 --> 01:05:41,843 I don 't think I ever saw her sitting down. 1323 01:05:42,897 --> 01:05:43,887 Ahh! 1324 01:05:44,441 --> 01:05:45,431 (GRUNTS) 1325 01:05:46,192 --> 01:05:47,182 (G ROANS) 1326 01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:50,276 KEEN: She has two claws in her hands 1327 01:05:50,363 --> 01:05:53,947 and then she has one that comes out of here, in her foot. 1328 01:05:54,033 --> 01:05:57,742 And she heals vely quickly. 1329 01:05:59,706 --> 01:06:03,074 Dafne did a lot of it herself and it's impressive. 1330 01:06:03,168 --> 01:06:06,752 She seemed fearless about some of the physical things. 1331 01:06:06,838 --> 01:06:10,832 PARKER: With the claws, it requires a level of active physicality, movement. 1332 01:06:10,925 --> 01:06:13,462 It's not the same as Storm wie/ding Iightning bolts 1333 01:06:13,553 --> 01:06:14,839 where they're effectively conjuring. 1334 01:06:14,929 --> 01:06:19,264 In this case, they really do have to interact, but she never flinched at any of it. 1335 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:22,433 In fact, seemed to be a natural in all those regards. 1336 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,227 WARREN: We had claws that she would hold in her hands 1337 01:06:24,314 --> 01:06:25,429 so she would see what that's like. 1338 01:06:25,523 --> 01:06:27,264 I would use paper and have her break the paper 1339 01:06:27,358 --> 01:06:29,269 and claw the paper and slice it into pieces. 1340 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,476 That way, she knew what it was like to use those claws for real 1341 01:06:31,571 --> 01:06:32,982 instead ofjust wielding them in the air. 1342 01:06:33,072 --> 01:06:34,312 JAC KMAN: When she put those claws on... 1343 01:06:34,407 --> 01:06:37,490 Actually, l looked over one day, she had my claws on and she was beaming. 1344 01:06:37,577 --> 01:06:38,908 She's an 11-year-old kid 1345 01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:41,453 who couldn't believe she's putting claws on and getting to stab people. 1346 01:06:41,539 --> 01:06:43,075 (LAUGHS) You know, she loved it. 1347 01:06:43,416 --> 01:06:46,659 JONES: X-23, Laura, we got to start from scratch. 1348 01:06:46,753 --> 01:06:48,289 So | come to it with logic. 1349 01:06:48,379 --> 01:06:52,122 She has small arms, smaller hands, there's only two claws. 1350 01:06:52,217 --> 01:06:53,582 How much can it come out, 1351 01:06:53,676 --> 01:06:56,168 where does it go when it comes back in, if you wanna think about it. 1352 01:06:56,262 --> 01:06:57,798 DAFNE: They were really sharp. 1353 01:06:57,889 --> 01:07:01,848 The hand claws are rubber so I don't stab anyone. 1354 01:07:01,935 --> 01:07:04,222 But then the foot claw, I was like, 1355 01:07:04,312 --> 01:07:07,600 "Oh, my God, I'm going to wear this shoe with a foot claw on it." 1356 01:07:07,857 --> 01:07:12,317 The foot claw turns out to be one of my favorite props in the movie. 1357 01:07:12,737 --> 01:07:14,353 It brought a smile to her face. 1358 01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:17,405 It's the greatest smile I've ever seen when I delivered a prop. 1359 01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:21,527 When we used it, we wanted her to drag her feet, we wanted to see the dirt. 1360 01:07:21,621 --> 01:07:25,865 But that's difficult, the interaction between the metal and the dirt is hard to recreate. 1361 01:07:25,959 --> 01:07:27,666 So it was important that we made something 1362 01:07:27,752 --> 01:07:29,083 that she could put her foot into, 1363 01:07:29,170 --> 01:07:32,708 and that was sturdy enough to withstand the shot we needed. 1364 01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:35,882 So we built a metal plate and a steel toe 1365 01:07:35,969 --> 01:07:40,338 and then | had the blade welded onto that and it goes in through her shoe. 1366 01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:44,766 So literally, her weight is actually holding the blade in place. 1367 01:07:44,852 --> 01:07:47,435 So as long as she's standing there and has her foot in the shoe, 1368 01:07:47,522 --> 01:07:49,479 it's firm enough for her to do what we need. 1369 01:07:49,566 --> 01:07:53,605 You did a greatjob last time of seeing mad and then seeing Logan, right? Good. 1370 01:07:53,695 --> 01:07:55,356 And then gunfire. (IMITATES GUNSHOTS) 1371 01:07:55,572 --> 01:07:56,653 Right. Good, look back to him. 1372 01:07:56,739 --> 01:07:59,652 We have a moment where we finally see Logan and Laura fighting together. 1373 01:07:59,742 --> 01:08:02,575 And we see that emotion come out of him, that he cares and he's looking for her 1374 01:08:02,662 --> 01:08:04,198 and then he finds her finally, 1375 01:08:04,289 --> 01:08:07,532 and then we get to see father-daughter fighting together and it's awesome. 1376 01:08:07,625 --> 01:08:08,911 -(GRUNTS) -(SCREAMS) 1377 01:08:09,002 --> 01:08:09,992 (G ROWLS) 1378 01:08:10,169 --> 01:08:12,285 (LAURA SCREAMING) 1379 01:08:13,423 --> 01:08:14,458 (G ROANS) 1380 01:08:15,008 --> 01:08:16,214 -(SCREAMS) -(CLAW STABBING) 1381 01:08:16,301 --> 01:08:17,757 -(PANTING) -(GROWLS) 1382 01:08:18,553 --> 01:08:21,762 That look, after the end of that is, in a way, 1383 01:08:21,848 --> 01:08:24,055 both of them are proud of each other. She's proud of me. 1384 01:08:24,142 --> 01:08:25,928 -Yes, and we're the same. -And we're the same. 1385 01:08:26,019 --> 01:08:27,054 Yes. 1386 01:08:27,145 --> 01:08:30,308 Ultimately, however he talks about himself, 1387 01:08:30,398 --> 01:08:34,608 the reality of the character is that he has as big a heart as any of these characters. 1388 01:08:34,694 --> 01:08:37,231 He's weary, he's tired. 1389 01:08:37,322 --> 01:08:40,485 He's lost too many times and lost too many people. 1390 01:08:40,575 --> 01:08:44,944 But in the end, he will rise to defend the innocent. 1391 01:08:45,038 --> 01:08:46,278 Showtime, boy! 1392 01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:47,862 (SCREAMS) 1393 01:08:50,543 --> 01:08:51,578 (SCREAMS) 1394 01:08:51,669 --> 01:08:55,378 The idea for me was, "What in the end is gonna destroy Logan?" 1395 01:08:55,673 --> 01:08:58,415 And I had to stan* to answer the question psychologically, like, 1396 01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,671 "Well, he should be killed by himself." 1397 01:09:00,762 --> 01:09:03,129 PARKER: It's interesting 'cause even as it's sad, of course, 1398 01:09:03,222 --> 01:09:06,305 you can't help but feel it's right. 1399 01:09:06,601 --> 01:09:07,591 (SCREAMS) 1400 01:09:07,685 --> 01:09:08,720 -(METAL CLATTERING) -(GROANS) 1401 01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:11,144 (PANTING) 1402 01:09:12,607 --> 01:09:13,847 (SCREAMING) 1403 01:09:14,233 --> 01:09:15,268 Laura! 1404 01:09:17,904 --> 01:09:21,488 MANGOLD: It was the kind of last chapter in the love story between him and Laura. 1405 01:09:21,574 --> 01:09:23,941 A father-daughter story in which a father and a daughter 1406 01:09:24,035 --> 01:09:27,153 who have never had the ability to connect very well 1407 01:09:27,246 --> 01:09:30,284 finally find a way to understand each other. 1408 01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:32,241 SCOTT FRANK: If you know you're gonna kill him at the end, 1409 01:09:32,335 --> 01:09:34,667 you can write that story because there's real weight at the end of it. 1410 01:09:34,754 --> 01:09:36,916 You're writing towards something that's real. 1411 01:09:37,006 --> 01:09:39,589 You're not trying to figure out how to save him at the end. 1412 01:09:39,676 --> 01:09:42,088 You're writing toward a real emotional place. 1413 01:09:42,178 --> 01:09:46,888 And that's actually easier than trying to car/y on to the next chapter. 1414 01:09:48,184 --> 01:09:49,640 (SCREAMING IN PAIN) 1415 01:09:52,814 --> 01:09:53,804 (G ROANS) 1416 01:09:54,857 --> 01:09:56,188 (GUNSHOT) 1417 01:09:59,153 --> 01:10:04,239 Jim remained resolute in wanting to stay emotionally true. 1418 01:10:04,325 --> 01:10:08,489 And as a result, the scene is pretty simple. It's not a wordy scene. 1419 01:10:08,579 --> 01:10:12,368 It's played in bits of silence, in fragments of dialogue 1420 01:10:12,458 --> 01:10:16,952 that tell us what we need to know, which is, you sense their resolution. 1421 01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,504 They finally come to the resolution together 1422 01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:22,002 that we've been hoping for the whole movie they would. 1423 01:10:22,093 --> 01:10:23,675 (SCREAMS IN AGONY) 1424 01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:26,712 (LAURA SOBS) 1425 01:10:27,265 --> 01:10:29,552 MANGOLD: Scott Frank wrote that line and when I read it, 1426 01:10:29,642 --> 01:10:32,384 I knew that was gonna be the last words he spoke. 1427 01:10:32,478 --> 01:10:35,015 And those words mean so many different things. 1428 01:10:35,106 --> 01:10:38,940 He has his daughter, kneeling beside him, holding his hand. 1429 01:10:39,026 --> 01:10:40,482 "Oh, this is what it feels like." 1430 01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:42,026 Okay, he now knows what love feels like. 1431 01:10:42,447 --> 01:10:44,905 He's also got life ebbing from his body. 1432 01:10:44,991 --> 01:10:49,280 A guy who's been living for 200 years, stressed out, 1433 01:10:49,370 --> 01:10:55,787 is finally getting released into nothingness or whatever is on the other side. 1434 01:10:56,210 --> 01:10:57,700 "Oh, this is what it feels like." 1435 01:10:57,795 --> 01:11:02,335 Opening himself up to love, doing the right thing, despite it hurting. 1436 01:11:02,425 --> 01:11:04,166 "Oh, so, this is what it feels like." 1437 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:07,924 FRANK: I will say, for me, it was not about having a family. 1438 01:11:08,014 --> 01:11:11,177 Because I'd been thinking about this character through two movies, 1439 01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:14,931 and it was always about someone who is immortal becoming mortal. 1440 01:11:15,021 --> 01:11:20,232 And it was always about understanding that this is what it's like to be at the end. 1441 01:11:20,318 --> 01:11:22,025 MANGOLD: I think that in many ways, 1442 01:11:22,111 --> 01:11:25,979 the idea was to find the most minimal, gruff way 1443 01:11:26,073 --> 01:11:30,783 for Logan to acknowledge that there had, for all the years he's lived, 1444 01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:34,955 there is something he didn't taste or know until right now. 1445 01:11:35,041 --> 01:11:38,830 And I think Hugh also found a way to really take those words and deliver. 1446 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,910 So... 1447 01:11:40,963 --> 01:11:43,421 Oh, so, this is what it feels like. 1448 01:11:45,551 --> 01:11:46,541 (CRYING) No; 1449 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,550 No! 1450 01:11:58,606 --> 01:11:59,596 (ALL LAUGHING) 1451 01:11:59,690 --> 01:12:01,272 MAN: All right, last looks. Picture's up, good to go. 1452 01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:03,316 SIMON KINBERG: Hugh always had said that Logan 1453 01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:04,858 was gonna be his last Wolverine movie. 1454 01:12:04,946 --> 01:12:07,779 That this has to be the best one and it has to hit a bar 1455 01:12:07,865 --> 01:12:10,197 that perhaps some of the movies hadn 't hit before. 1456 01:12:10,284 --> 01:12:11,900 And cut. We got it. 1457 01:12:12,578 --> 01:12:13,989 -MAN: Cut! -(CHEERING) 1458 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,618 There's always something strange about the last day 1459 01:12:17,708 --> 01:12:19,574 because it's suddenly over. 1460 01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:22,161 It was kind of painful, kind of bittersweet, 1461 01:12:22,255 --> 01:12:25,373 but Hugh, he's such a pro and he's so generous, 1462 01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:28,128 at least for me, it's wanting to make sure it's good for him. 1463 01:12:28,219 --> 01:12:29,709 -Hugh Jackman? -JACKMAN: Yes. 1464 01:12:30,137 --> 01:12:34,301 That is the cessation of main unit photography for you on... 1465 01:12:34,392 --> 01:12:36,929 -JACKMAN: What a way to go. -And what a way to go, and in style. 1466 01:12:37,311 --> 01:12:38,767 (CHEERING) 1467 01:12:38,855 --> 01:12:41,938 MANGOLD: The reality is that when an actor is really great in a role 1468 01:12:42,024 --> 01:12:44,857 and finds a way to connect to audiences and everyone else, 1469 01:12:44,944 --> 01:12:47,527 what it has to be, it seems to me, is that 1470 01:12:47,613 --> 01:12:51,777 they've found a way to connect a deep part of themselves to this character: 1471 01:12:51,868 --> 01:12:54,610 There's no way that they can just be kind of fak/ng it. 1472 01:12:54,704 --> 01:12:55,819 -(ALL APPLAUDING) -Let me say one thing. 1473 01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:57,870 I've had the pleasure now of making 1474 01:12:57,957 --> 01:13:00,494 three major motion pictures with this person. 1475 01:13:00,585 --> 01:13:04,795 And, um, beyond him being enormously, inconceivably talented, 1476 01:13:05,214 --> 01:13:08,832 um, he is also just one of the greatest persons in the world. 1477 01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:11,213 Greatest collaborators and greatest friends. 1478 01:13:11,304 --> 01:13:15,548 I know I wouldn't find anyone among this sea of people who would disagree. 1479 01:13:15,641 --> 01:13:18,975 And I think that, at least, is something I aspire to be 1480 01:13:19,061 --> 01:13:22,395 as | go fonNard in my life, is someone as Collaborative and kind 1481 01:13:22,481 --> 01:13:24,222 and ready for action every day 1482 01:13:24,317 --> 01:13:26,934 and greatness as you are every day, so thank you. 1483 01:13:27,028 --> 01:13:29,360 And what a great role you've given everyone, 1484 01:13:29,447 --> 01:13:32,530 um, for so many years, and | hope this lives up to it. 1485 01:13:32,617 --> 01:13:34,403 -| hope to God, 'cause we worked really... -(LAUGHS) 1486 01:13:34,493 --> 01:13:36,279 -Yeah. -We worked our asses off. 1487 01:13:36,370 --> 01:13:37,826 PARKER: You kind of take your cue from him 1488 01:13:37,914 --> 01:13:41,999 and how he's choosing to navigate it and follow that lead, 1489 01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:44,496 out of respect and appreciation for all that he's done. 1490 01:13:44,587 --> 01:13:47,830 STEWART: The film is full of unexpected events 1491 01:13:47,924 --> 01:13:50,757 and attitudes and manners and relationships. 1492 01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:53,710 You think you know exactly where you are and what you're witnessing, 1493 01:13:53,804 --> 01:13:56,546 and then someone does something and you realize that you were wrong. 1494 01:13:56,641 --> 01:14:00,384 It was something else and I think that's what makes it exciting. 1495 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,264 MANGOLD: I think what we owe a character 1496 01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,723 who has reached as many people as Hugh 's Wolverine has 1497 01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,729 is to end on a note of heart. 1498 01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:11,982 | felt like we owed him not making a bigger one or a Iouder one 1499 01:14:12,073 --> 01:14:16,192 or a more spectacular one but making the most feeling one. 1500 01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:19,778 The one that stirred you up inside the most, that moved you. 1501 01:14:19,872 --> 01:14:21,408 Before I go to the cake, 1502 01:14:21,499 --> 01:14:23,456 it's a really surreal day. 1503 01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:27,126 I've got my 16-year-old in the trailer, 1504 01:14:27,755 --> 01:14:30,417 who was not even born when | started playing this part. 1505 01:14:30,508 --> 01:14:32,215 (MANGOLD LAUGHS) 1506 01:14:32,718 --> 01:14:34,709 And Jim and about five people, 1507 01:14:34,804 --> 01:14:37,796 we've been probably working on this for three or four years. 1508 01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:41,679 No movie has meant more to me than this movie. 1509 01:14:41,769 --> 01:14:44,477 I'm really, really proud of what we've done. 1510 01:14:44,563 --> 01:14:47,100 We could not have done it without every single one of you. 1511 01:14:47,191 --> 01:14:48,352 So from the bottom of my heart, 1512 01:14:48,442 --> 01:14:50,683 thank you so much for helping us realize this dream. 1513 01:14:50,778 --> 01:14:52,815 (ALL CHEERING AND APPLAUDING) 1514 01:14:54,907 --> 01:14:56,443 Let there be cake! 1515 01:14:56,993 --> 01:14:59,030 JACKMAN: This film felt different to all of them. 1516 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,990 E very day, every scene, for me, was a kind of battle 1517 01:15:05,084 --> 01:15:09,624 to get the best out of that character, to get the best out of me and the situation. 1518 01:15:09,922 --> 01:15:12,163 PARKE R: We've seen a lot from him. 1519 01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:16,297 From his love story with Jean to his conflicts with some of the otherX-Men, 1520 01:15:16,387 --> 01:15:20,096 to the degree to which he sen/ed as a sort of guide 1521 01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:22,298 and a facilitator in Days of Future Past. 1522 01:15:22,393 --> 01:15:26,432 We 've seen a lot of different facets of that character's life. 1523 01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:28,934 It could kind of only end in one place. 1524 01:15:29,025 --> 01:15:33,110 I love this character. This character has been amazing to me. 1525 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,357 -Thank you so much. -You were awesome. 1526 01:15:35,448 --> 01:15:36,688 -Thanks, buddy. -Thanks for everything. 1527 01:15:37,116 --> 01:15:39,608 JACKMAN: I'd be Iying if I said that 1528 01:15:40,327 --> 01:15:44,070 I would've been okay if I didn't feel everything was left on the table. 1529 01:15:44,165 --> 01:15:45,200 And I mean eve/ything. 1530 01:15:45,583 --> 01:15:48,325 | don't even know what to say. Hasn't sunk in yet. (LAUGHS) 143270

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