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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,199 --> 00:00:06,960 The first introduction of Patton and Farnsworth was such a violent exchange. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,680 We really, from that point forward, had a house that was divided. 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,280 But they ended up just fighting at the door. 4 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:23,120 There really is just no peace in this house. 5 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:28,400 It's very likely that one Patton might try to kill the other. 6 00:00:31,470 --> 00:00:33,810 Living free is the animal sanctuary. 7 00:00:34,250 --> 00:00:39,190 Out of all of my cats, over 100, Tigger and Buddy are the only ones causing any 8 00:00:39,190 --> 00:00:40,470 problems or chaos. 9 00:00:40,850 --> 00:00:42,670 And they've attacked the other cats. 10 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:44,170 It was just terrifying. 11 00:00:44,490 --> 00:00:48,250 We ended up separating Tigger and Buddy from all the other cats. 12 00:00:48,550 --> 00:00:50,930 Between the two of us, we could break up anything at the start. 13 00:00:53,370 --> 00:00:54,370 Now look at that. 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,260 We do everything together. 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,180 I am on the water with a dog and a cat, and I'm the one who's scared. 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Rosie, you're so much better at this than I am. 17 00:01:13,700 --> 00:01:14,840 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 18 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:16,340 Oh, my God, I love my job. 19 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:21,100 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 20 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:22,100 cat. 21 00:01:22,980 --> 00:01:25,240 That really ups the stakes a little bit here. 22 00:01:25,870 --> 00:01:30,250 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 23 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:31,430 my help. Thank you. 24 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:35,830 Hi, 25 00:01:43,710 --> 00:01:48,390 I'm Stephanie. My name is Jason, and we have four male tabby cats. 26 00:01:48,970 --> 00:01:49,970 Farnsworth, Gibson. 27 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,140 Patton and Montgomery, but Farnsworth and Patton were having problems with. 28 00:01:55,140 --> 00:02:01,640 Stephanie moved in with me, she had Gibson and Farnsworth, I had 29 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Patton and Montgomery. The first introduction of Patton and Farnsworth 30 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,360 a violent exchange. 31 00:02:12,220 --> 00:02:16,160 We really, from that point forward, had a house that was divided. 32 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:22,800 and ended up having to sequester Farnsworth and Gibson in the master 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,580 kind of expand the bedroom territory for Farnsworth visually, we had to build a 34 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:28,940 barricade at the door. 35 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:33,940 What happened was they ended up just fighting at the door. 36 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:39,240 There really is just no peace in this house. 37 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,800 It's very likely that one cat might try to kill the other. 38 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Oh, my God. 39 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:56,680 Today I'm in Las Vegas to meet up with Jason and Stephanie, who together 40 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,400 have four cats. The problem is that his two cats plus her two cats equals a lot 41 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,460 of aggression, and it's been going on for quite a while. Now, if I've learned 42 00:03:04,460 --> 00:03:07,700 anything over the years, it's that if your cats are divided, your house is 43 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:10,020 divided, and a house divided cannot stand. 44 00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:11,580 I'm going to get over there right now. 45 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:19,440 Hey. Hey. How you doing, man? Good. I'm Jason. Jason. How you doing? I'm 46 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,140 Stephanie. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'm Jackson. 47 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:22,380 Good to see you guys. 48 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:26,400 What a great place you guys got. And you got cat trees, like, right when you 49 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,400 walk in the house, man. 50 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:32,180 Friends of mine, man. There's plenty. I'm psyched. But no cats as of yet, 51 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:35,440 on the TV. We have two that are hiding underneath the... Oh, I see one. Yeah, 52 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:36,339 that's Patton. 53 00:03:36,340 --> 00:03:39,400 I see a cat. That's Patton. Okay, so we got a Patton and... And Montgomery's, 54 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,420 like, right behind him. 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Hi, guys. 56 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:43,600 Tell me the story. 57 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Okay, so in 2008, we adopted two kitties. That's Mr. Farnsworth and 58 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,700 Explorer. They're bonded because they kind of came in at the same time. And 59 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:57,300 Stephanie and I separated for a little bit, and the cats went with her. I kind 60 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,480 of got lonely, so I went to the Las Vegas shelter and rescued Patton and 61 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Montgomery. 62 00:04:02,580 --> 00:04:07,600 So Stephanie and I get back together, and now she comes back into the home 63 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,500 Farnsworth and Gibson the Explorer. So did you guys just assume it was going to 64 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:12,500 work and just sort of... 65 00:04:12,590 --> 00:04:18,190 We actually had an episode that probably wasn't the best. So we knew to separate 66 00:04:18,190 --> 00:04:20,149 them and keep them separated, so we shut the door. 67 00:04:20,410 --> 00:04:24,110 However, when going into the door and not really paying attention to that. 68 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,460 These two scooted in, so that created a problem. They hid under the bed, and 69 00:04:28,460 --> 00:04:30,320 that was the first introduction. 70 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:34,060 When you said hid under the bed, was there a fight under the bed? Yeah. It 71 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:35,960 violent and very scary. 72 00:04:37,380 --> 00:04:41,240 Oh my God, don't hurt each other. It scared us so bad that we were almost 73 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,280 contemplating not getting back together, because I'm like, this is not going to 74 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,960 work. If I were in their shoes, this would be a... 75 00:04:48,190 --> 00:04:52,350 Big ironic situation. Here we finally made the decision to get back together 76 00:04:52,350 --> 00:04:57,370 again, and then our cats are keeping us from moving on. That must be playing 77 00:04:57,370 --> 00:05:02,170 with these guys to a certain degree. Who got the worst of that fight, that first 78 00:05:02,170 --> 00:05:02,989 big fight? 79 00:05:02,990 --> 00:05:03,990 Who? Farnsworth. 80 00:05:04,910 --> 00:05:06,350 Did he get injured? Did anybody? 81 00:05:06,750 --> 00:05:08,910 Not that time, thank God. But he's gotten injured. 82 00:05:09,130 --> 00:05:13,670 But since then? Yeah, plenty of times. So this whole story is about Farnsworth. 83 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:14,890 Yeah. He's back here. 84 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,140 Back where? In the bedroom. We keep Farnsworth locked in the bedroom. 85 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,420 Let's go see him. Okay. 86 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:23,780 This is the door that we had custom made. Look at you. 87 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,220 This was a solid door before? Yeah, man. And we had a cat therapist come in, and 88 00:05:30,220 --> 00:05:33,520 she suggested that there be an open line of sight. 89 00:05:33,860 --> 00:05:38,220 That's a cat daddy approved door right there. The cats can watch each other 90 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:40,740 without any danger. It's a really great tool. 91 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,440 And this is... 92 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:47,460 Mr. Farnsworth. The bed is sort of his, like, nobody comes up here. He seems to 93 00:05:47,460 --> 00:05:48,680 be territorial of the bed. 94 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:49,900 Hi. 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,020 The bed has become the seat of the entire territory when it comes to 96 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,940 which probably generates hostility with the other cats if and when they try to 97 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:00,899 enter the bedroom. 98 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:03,060 You like it. Oh, look at that. You like it. 99 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:06,000 Farnsworth loves Stephanie. 100 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:08,670 Yes. And she can do no wrong. 101 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:12,110 Nighttime he sleeps in the room the entire time because he's a cuddler and I 102 00:06:12,110 --> 00:06:15,310 like to cuddle with him. What is it about Farnsworth and you? 103 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:16,950 He's my buddy, you know. 104 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:22,450 Farnsworth is my baby. He is protective and he does cling on to me a lot. And I 105 00:06:22,450 --> 00:06:27,890 admit that I don't give a lot of attention to the other cats because I'm 106 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:29,850 focused on Farnsworth. Can I get a kiss? 107 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:35,760 The relationship between Farnsworth and Stephanie can definitely have an impact 108 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,460 on the other animals in the house. They could be making land grabs based on what 109 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:41,920 they see another cat having. 110 00:06:42,340 --> 00:06:47,280 What's the most charged area of the house? Is it in here at this point? So 111 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:51,160 door itself, when was the last time Farnsworth got really injured? 112 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:56,120 They were fighting at the door where the grill is, and he popped out. 113 00:06:56,430 --> 00:07:00,690 his claw i mean right to the bone and they had to suture it up and it was just 114 00:07:00,690 --> 00:07:05,310 about that one when a cat is losing a claw in a door that means i want to kill 115 00:07:05,310 --> 00:07:12,150 you oh oh stop ironically here we have a great door a great tool for 116 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:16,150 reintroduction that has become poisoned so now i have to get effective square 117 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:19,830 one where we can use this door again so i want to attempt a challenge line 118 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:23,970 exercise with farnsworth and patton using this door i just want to make it 119 00:07:23,970 --> 00:07:29,500 every time that Farnsworth sees Patton, he doesn't fast forward to violence. 120 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:36,080 If we got the guys right around here, then my goal would be, with the treats 121 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,840 whatever, how close to the door can I get him without all kinds of crap 122 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,600 loose? Well, look who's here. 123 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:43,960 Hey, you, Patterson. 124 00:07:44,660 --> 00:07:46,080 What do we got here, buddy? 125 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,920 Come on, buddy. 126 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,350 Usually, with a door in the middle of these two cats right now, I would just 127 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:57,150 breathing easy, knowing that we've lost a claw here in the past couple of 128 00:07:57,150 --> 00:08:00,890 months. Not so much. Now, of course, best case scenario is that the two cats 129 00:08:00,890 --> 00:08:03,790 see each other, not feel motivated to kill one another. 130 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:08,910 Worst case scenario, a fight breaks out between the door. So right now, I'm very 131 00:08:08,910 --> 00:08:09,910 much on guard. 132 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:11,910 Good boy, Farnsworth. 133 00:08:12,310 --> 00:08:14,130 No sudden movements is the key. 134 00:08:14,830 --> 00:08:15,850 There we go. 135 00:08:16,450 --> 00:08:19,070 Nice going, Jason. You got them where we want them. 136 00:08:20,590 --> 00:08:21,990 It's okay, Farnsworth. It's okay. 137 00:08:23,530 --> 00:08:24,530 It's okay, Farnsworth. 138 00:08:24,770 --> 00:08:25,770 Good boy. 139 00:08:35,409 --> 00:08:36,409 It's okay, Farnsworth. 140 00:08:36,669 --> 00:08:37,750 It's okay. Good boy. 141 00:08:38,289 --> 00:08:42,710 I got Farnsworth hissing and spitting and acting like the world is about to 142 00:08:44,430 --> 00:08:48,810 who's curious and just can't take no for an answer. And the last time this 143 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:52,870 happened when I wasn't here, a fight led Farnsworth to the hospital, and that 144 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:53,870 can't happen right now. 145 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:58,270 Hi, baby. Hi, baby boy. 146 00:08:59,490 --> 00:09:00,850 Okay. Come on, buddy. 147 00:09:01,130 --> 00:09:04,790 Come on. Well, the good news so far is that Farnsworth backed down without a 148 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:08,490 fight, but he's still territorially insecure, and he even projected 149 00:09:08,490 --> 00:09:11,910 against me after the exercise. Let's go back inside, and I'll give you guys some 150 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:12,910 homework. Okay? Okay. 151 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:16,590 If there's any chance for Farnsworth and Patton to get along, Jason and 152 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:18,170 Stephanie have got to get back to the basics. 153 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:22,470 All right, guys, there were some good things I saw today and not so good 154 00:09:22,570 --> 00:09:24,550 Bottom line, we're going back to basics. 155 00:09:24,770 --> 00:09:29,750 My first back to basics would be go back to mealtimes. We have reintroduction at 156 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:34,170 that door because when we go back and feed on opposite sides of that door, we 157 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:38,250 find our challenge line. Each pair of cats on opposite sides of the door. 158 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:39,750 Far back enough. 159 00:09:40,250 --> 00:09:43,030 so that the hissing and the spitting and all that doesn't happen. And then every 160 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:46,990 day, one foot over the challenge line, closer and closer and closer until we 161 00:09:46,990 --> 00:09:50,770 them here. And they will all know that food only happens in the presence of the 162 00:09:50,770 --> 00:09:54,270 other cats. Food is a good thing, which means that the other cats are a good 163 00:09:54,270 --> 00:09:58,810 thing. That door itself has become a negative thing. We can make it positive 164 00:09:58,810 --> 00:10:02,790 once again. But it all starts with using it to reintroduce the cats with a 165 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:04,510 positive association at mealtime. 166 00:10:04,810 --> 00:10:08,830 Next part of Back to Basics is Base Camp 101. 167 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:14,130 So I want you to take the blanket that's on the bed and the cat tree that's in 168 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:15,710 there. Those two things come out here. 169 00:10:16,010 --> 00:10:22,810 Now, what if I were to tell you, looking at you, that the only way 170 00:10:22,810 --> 00:10:27,970 that we can make this happen is if you tore yourself away from Farnsworth? 171 00:10:29,010 --> 00:10:33,930 For instance, the sleeping with Farnsworth every night has got to end. 172 00:10:33,930 --> 00:10:37,530 has to. The fact that he sees you as a base camp. 173 00:10:38,010 --> 00:10:39,850 There's no such thing as a human base camp. 174 00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:42,390 That will never work. Base camp is territory. 175 00:10:42,730 --> 00:10:43,730 It's not humans. 176 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:47,630 And the more he belongs to you, the more resentful the other cats are going to 177 00:10:47,630 --> 00:10:49,590 get and the harder time everyone's going to have. 178 00:10:49,870 --> 00:10:54,550 Right now, Farnsworth gets the bedroom every night without fail. Ideally, I 179 00:10:54,550 --> 00:10:57,910 to see equal time and equal spots in the house by every cat. 180 00:10:58,110 --> 00:11:01,390 The next part of Back to Basics is the site swapping. For every day that 181 00:11:01,390 --> 00:11:05,930 Farnsworth and Gibson sleeps with you guys, the next day it's the other guys. 182 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:12,440 And we switch. I'd rather keep total separation and get these basics really 183 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,860 ingrained so by the time I come back here next time, now we're taking risks. 184 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Because those risks I don't think are ready to be taken yet. Tough stuff, 185 00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:20,539 though, I know. 186 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:22,420 But we need this fixed, so whatever it takes. 187 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:27,020 Doing Jackson's homework is going to be really hard for me because it means that 188 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:29,500 I have to spend less time with Mr. Farnsworth. 189 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,920 I'll be back in just a few weeks, okay? 190 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,540 All right, guys, good luck. 191 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,100 I need to stay strong. 192 00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:39,070 Because this is our only hope in fixing this house and making it peaceful. 193 00:11:41,290 --> 00:11:48,230 My name is Matt, and I'm supervisor of 194 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:50,230 the cattery at Living Free. 195 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:57,070 Lilo! What's up, Lilo? Living Free is an animal sanctuary where animals get a 196 00:11:57,070 --> 00:11:58,070 second chance. 197 00:11:58,110 --> 00:11:59,990 They need a home. They need a family. 198 00:12:00,210 --> 00:12:01,890 And that's what Living Free does. 199 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:06,850 If it wasn't for living free, these animals would not be alive. 200 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:10,090 Everybody here was waiting to be euthanized. 201 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:14,870 About five years ago, we rescued Tigger and Buddy. 202 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:21,590 They were used to running around wild, and being caged up must have been really 203 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:27,070 tough. Out of all of my cats, over 100, Tigger and Buddy are the only ones 204 00:12:27,070 --> 00:12:29,070 causing any problems or chaos. 205 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:31,980 Figures. 206 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,060 At the beginning, they got the other cats worked up. 207 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,460 They would attack one cat. 208 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,980 I had no idea how to stop nine cats in a brawl. It was terrifying because they 209 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:53,600 were so brutal. I've kept them apart from all the other cats since then. They 210 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,980 just didn't show any promise. 211 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,100 If I can't teach... 212 00:12:57,370 --> 00:13:01,450 Tigger and Buddy to get along with the other cats. They're not going to have 213 00:13:01,450 --> 00:13:02,790 that good of a life here. 214 00:13:03,290 --> 00:13:07,490 They'll be stuck in a small area for the rest of their lives, and that's not the 215 00:13:07,490 --> 00:13:08,910 kind of life I want for them. 216 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:13,790 I'm here at Living Free, an animal sanctuary that provides a sense of home 217 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:16,570 family for animals by caring for them and keeping them safe. 218 00:13:16,970 --> 00:13:21,050 Matt, the cattery supervisor, wants all the cats to be happy, but he's worried 219 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:22,110 that two of them are not. 220 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:24,150 I'm here to help him help them. 221 00:13:26,910 --> 00:13:28,010 Hey, man. Hey. 222 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:29,829 I'm Jackson. 223 00:13:29,830 --> 00:13:30,589 I'm Matt. 224 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:31,590 Good to see you, Matt. 225 00:13:31,730 --> 00:13:33,910 Seems like a great space to be a cat. 226 00:13:34,490 --> 00:13:36,770 Speaking of, we have Tigger and Buddy. 227 00:13:36,970 --> 00:13:40,910 Yeah, I kind of gave them their own apartment because they do a couple 228 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:42,270 that they shouldn't be doing. 229 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:44,190 Well, let's go say hi to them. Good. 230 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:46,190 There's Tigger right there. 231 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:50,060 From what I gather so far, this is a good place to be a cat. 232 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:53,140 There's some nice open spaces both inside and outside. 233 00:13:53,420 --> 00:13:57,720 I'm curious to see where Buddy and Tigger are living and hear why they 234 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,640 around the other cats in the cattery. Now, this is Tigger on your shoulder. 235 00:14:00,780 --> 00:14:02,420 Yeah, this is Tigger. How long have you known him? 236 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:03,920 About five years. 237 00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:05,760 There's a nice lady that donated. 238 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,880 a small property to us. The only thing was we had to catch her 11 cats that 239 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,880 roaming wild. 240 00:14:12,940 --> 00:14:14,920 Buddy and Tigger were part of that 11. 241 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,920 And Tigger is a bad influence on Buddy when they're around other cats. Oh, wow. 242 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:26,060 And they get all the other cats worked up. Yeah. And then go attack the cat. 243 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Oh. And the other cats actually joined in and did what he said. 244 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:35,360 You can imagine eight or nine cats going after one cat was just... 245 00:14:35,610 --> 00:14:40,850 terrifying and i felt helpless and because of that tigger and buddy have 246 00:14:40,850 --> 00:14:46,090 living separately from the other cats for five years now okay that fight must 247 00:14:46,090 --> 00:14:51,350 have been really bad because it has scarred matt's memory completely all 248 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:54,590 did was separate these guys nope i don't want to see it again i don't want to 249 00:14:54,590 --> 00:14:59,420 hear about it again and fast forward five years Buddy's in here somewhere, 250 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:01,180 Buddy is probably here. 251 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,860 There's my boy. 252 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Buddy is not a violent cat, but Tigger could actually get Buddy worked up. Oh, 253 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,060 they look a lot alike. 254 00:15:09,340 --> 00:15:12,280 Yeah, they're brothers, and they're both about nine years old. 255 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:18,200 Tigger's the bigger bully. Have you ever introduced Buddy to other cats without 256 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Tigger? No, not without Tigger. Okay. From what Matt's telling me, maybe 257 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,320 not an aggressive cat. Maybe he's a good cat until his brother riles him up. 258 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,180 Were these guys neutered when you got them? We had to neuter everybody. 259 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:36,100 So five -year -old guys that are still intact, that would lend itself to the 260 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:37,840 kind of fighting that you were talking about. 261 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,120 Buddy and Tigger were wild. 262 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,600 They were unneutered. And then the next second, they are neutered, they are 263 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,460 gathered up, they are trapped, they are brought here, and then they get into a 264 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:48,460 fight. 265 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Sure. Yeah, that's going to happen. Is fighting their only issue? 266 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:54,060 No. They spray everything. 267 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,080 You can see the walls, everything. 268 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:57,400 Oh, this is all. 269 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Both of them. When a cat sprays, to the degree that Tigger and Buddy are 270 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:08,380 spraying, it is saying, I am absolutely unconfident about the sanctity of my 271 00:16:08,380 --> 00:16:12,340 territory. And it's a really loud cry for help. 272 00:16:12,620 --> 00:16:15,280 These two guys live where? 273 00:16:15,790 --> 00:16:16,790 This is it? This. 274 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:22,510 Oh, you take cats and start crushing their territory smaller and smaller 275 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:25,970 you're in a sardine can like they are right now. Bad things will definitely 276 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:29,370 happen because cats are just not meant to be kept in this small space, 277 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:31,910 especially if they were used to having a lot more space. 278 00:16:32,250 --> 00:16:34,550 He does have a small outside run. 279 00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:36,090 That's what I want to see next. 280 00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:40,190 They have a cat door right there. Yeah. Wow. 281 00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:42,050 That's it, huh? That's it. 282 00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:48,070 Crap. Hold on a second. This is like a jail cell. You've got this little sliver 283 00:16:48,070 --> 00:16:52,930 of light, and they're surrounded by all of these other cats, almost taunting 284 00:16:52,930 --> 00:16:54,210 them with their lack of territory. 285 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:58,690 I would be going insane if I were those two cats. Here's the thing. They 286 00:16:58,690 --> 00:17:02,250 wouldn't be spraying like this if they didn't feel a sense of territorial 287 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:05,890 unease, and that has to do with the fact that there's all of this that they 288 00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:09,550 don't have access to. I want to let them out and introduce them to the cats in 289 00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:13,170 the main catio. Between the two of us, we can break up anything that starts. 290 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:16,069 I'm certainly willing to do that. Yeah. 291 00:17:16,349 --> 00:17:20,490 I'm very worried that when we introduce Buddy and Tigger that there could be a 292 00:17:20,490 --> 00:17:22,890 big fight. But I trust Jackson. 293 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:26,210 Look at him, man. He's ready. Yeah. All right, Matt. 294 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:27,470 Hey, Mr. Tigger. 295 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:32,190 Five years ago when Tigger came face -to -face with the rest of the colony, he 296 00:17:32,190 --> 00:17:34,590 bullied them all into ganging up on one cat. 297 00:17:34,810 --> 00:17:35,890 All right, then. Tigger! 298 00:17:36,540 --> 00:17:40,480 Welcome to the bigger world, Tigger. The thing that really has me worried is 299 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,340 that a huge fight breaks out and that we have to break it up. That's bad for the 300 00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:45,840 cat, and it's also bad for Matt. 301 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,300 I mean, Matt's been sitting in a spot of trauma now for five years. 302 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:51,240 I don't want him to see a fight. 303 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,320 Tigger? 304 00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:56,840 Let's see what happens here. 305 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,640 Look at this, man. 306 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,940 Look at what happened. Now, this should make you feel really good right about 307 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:08,360 now. Oh, I feel great. 308 00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:11,060 What's up, Tigger? 309 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,980 Yeah, he's going to spray. 310 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:18,020 I can see it coming, man. I can see it coming. He's smelling the drain there. 311 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:19,300 And there it is. 312 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,660 What he's saying is that he's not 100 % confident. So that's something we still 313 00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:24,660 need to address. 314 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:30,220 While it's okay for Tigger to mark outside, it is a territorial cry for 315 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,700 It's the raising of the yellow flag. 316 00:18:32,380 --> 00:18:35,220 And in order to get the spraying to stop, you've got to take care of all the 317 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:36,740 things that's making the spraying happen. 318 00:18:36,980 --> 00:18:38,320 And look at this. Look at that. 319 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:39,700 Respectful distance. Yeah. 320 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Your only experience was you opened the door and all hell broke loose. 321 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,300 So we've just crossed one huge barrier here. 322 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,120 Everything feels very nice and controllable right now. 323 00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:55,460 And out comes Mr. Buddy. 324 00:18:57,420 --> 00:18:58,420 That's all right, Buddy. 325 00:19:02,139 --> 00:19:04,340 Buddy, I'm still a little, uh, about. 326 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Take a look at his body language. His tail, his ears. He's stressed. 327 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,940 I just don't want him to get trapped by anybody. 328 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:12,640 Let's see what happens here. 329 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,240 Let's see what happens here. 330 00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:32,960 I just don't want him to get trapped by anybody. 331 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,240 It's okay, buddy. It's all right. I don't want you going in the window. 332 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,060 Okay, so Buddy is feeling a little insecure. Yeah. And this black hat, 333 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:49,160 making it any easier on him. Yeah. It's all right, buddy. Buddy obviously is not 334 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,420 entirely comfortable in an expansive territory, and his insecurity might 335 00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:57,560 him to lash out. And if that happens, I'm afraid that Matt might resort to 336 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,960 keeping these guys separated forever. 337 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:00,189 Come on, you guys. 338 00:20:00,190 --> 00:20:03,250 Let's give our boys some space. Everything that I've learned so far 339 00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:06,950 exactly how we need to move forward integrating these cats into the larger 340 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:08,890 colony. Let's start with what I see. 341 00:20:09,210 --> 00:20:12,970 I think that we've got a territorial problem, for sure, and we know that from 342 00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:16,590 all of the marking all over the place. Being in that small a territory 343 00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:18,510 surrounded by a hundred other cats... 344 00:20:18,940 --> 00:20:23,220 It's just too much for them. So I want there to be a specific time during the 345 00:20:23,220 --> 00:20:26,720 day when those doors are open for at least a few hours every day. 346 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:31,060 Once we break down the walls here, the spraying problem, I think it's going to 347 00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:32,320 diminish, if not go away altogether. 348 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,440 Because the more territory they have, the more secure they're going to feel. 349 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:40,130 Yeah. Bottom line is that Tigger and Buddy need a bigger territory and they 350 00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:43,690 it right now. Just like we did today, allow these cats to have access to one 351 00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:47,090 another so that these cats can start forging a new rhythm. The second part of 352 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:48,990 the homework is what I call catification. 353 00:20:49,630 --> 00:20:54,090 What I'd love to see more of is ways to connect vertical areas to vertical 354 00:20:54,090 --> 00:20:57,730 areas, create what I call the cat superhighway, so that there are lanes of 355 00:20:57,730 --> 00:21:00,670 traffic allowing these guys to stay out of each other's hair. 356 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:03,050 We don't want any dead ends kind of thing? 357 00:21:03,250 --> 00:21:07,530 That's exactly right. These catios need to be catified with the expectation that 358 00:21:07,530 --> 00:21:10,750 Buddy and Tigger are going to have a lot more access to these other cats. I want 359 00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:15,270 to see multiple lanes of cat superhighway here up on the walls, so 360 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:17,070 a bunch of cats competing for the ground. 361 00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:21,020 After just your visit today, their future looks a lot brighter. 362 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:22,740 Right on, man. It's been a pleasure. 363 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,860 I'm really, really happy to have met you, and I will see you in a few weeks. 364 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Okay. Thank you. 365 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:32,960 It's a good thing to know that this isn't an entrenched behavioral problem. 366 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,620 is a territorial issue, and the great news is if you open up the territory, 367 00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:39,820 open up the future for these two great cats. 368 00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:45,920 Oh, my God, don't hurt each other. Oh, my God, don't hurt each other. 369 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,880 I'm here to check in with Jason and Stephanie and their four male cats that 370 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,140 divided into two groups, Team Farnsworth and Team Patton. I'm hoping that these 371 00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:05,860 guys really dug into their homework and that the cats can be around one another 372 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:09,880 without that initial impulse for blood and mayhem. Since the last time I was 373 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:15,000 here, bloodshed, mayhem in general, any kind of chasing and craziness? 374 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,280 No. That is great. Let's just get to your homework. Let's just take a look at 375 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,280 what you guys have been up to. 376 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,920 Day one. 377 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,220 We moved Farnsworth's favorite cat tree out here in the living room, and look at 378 00:22:27,220 --> 00:22:28,220 what we have. 379 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,880 Farnsworth is loving his cat tree. 380 00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:36,700 Oh, now this is what I like. Hi, buddy. Before, Farnsworth stayed exclusively in 381 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:39,900 the bedroom, but now Farnsworth is a totally different cat. 382 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,239 Hi, bud. 383 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Hi, baby. That level of presence, right? When you see him sit like this, right, 384 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,720 chest up, you know that you've done something right. 385 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,700 Tonight is Pat and Montgomery's night, and I just want to show everybody that 386 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:57,260 they're quite a bit more comfortable now. 387 00:22:57,660 --> 00:22:58,660 Look at that. 388 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,600 The reason I'm seeing a different cat out here in Farnsworth is because of the 389 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,860 site swapping, because we're emphasizing that he owns this whole place, not just 390 00:23:06,860 --> 00:23:10,520 the bed, not just Stephanie either. Stephanie is now sleeping with the other 391 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,540 cats as well. That equal access to territory is what it's all about. The 392 00:23:15,540 --> 00:23:16,820 difference between him... 393 00:23:17,050 --> 00:23:19,750 Not on your bed is huge. 394 00:23:20,330 --> 00:23:26,270 His body language, his presence in the room is a different cat. He's not 395 00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:29,010 guarding that space. That's crazy right there. That's great. 396 00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:33,070 I wanted these guys to get back to basics by reintroducing their cats 397 00:23:33,070 --> 00:23:35,150 feeding technique to create a positive association. 398 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:40,050 So I want them to have the cats on either side at a very comfortable spot 399 00:23:40,050 --> 00:23:43,470 they'll eat and walk away and then bring that spot closer and closer to the 400 00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:45,850 door. Our first feeding. 401 00:23:46,460 --> 00:23:47,460 At the door. 402 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,940 Two cats eating. 403 00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:50,280 Two cats eating. 404 00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:56,120 And a nice, respectful distance. I mean, we're talking about six feet, and all 405 00:23:56,120 --> 00:24:01,340 the attention is on the food and on the food. So that's really cool. The cats 406 00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:05,140 are getting closer and closer without anything breaking out, which is amazing. 407 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,660 Okay, dinner time is over. 408 00:24:07,620 --> 00:24:09,640 And we've got this behavior now. 409 00:24:11,719 --> 00:24:16,360 It's this tail that I'm a little concerned with. Is he looking at 410 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,760 right now? Yeah. Okay, so he's looking at Farnsworth. Now, normally, this sort 411 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,300 of erect tail like that is a sign of confidence. 412 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,960 What you're seeing with that sort of periscope with this, with the tail, 413 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,740 a bit of agitation with that body posture. If we were to open the door 414 00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:31,920 now, it would be a bad scene. 415 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,800 I'm still not happy with the degree of fixations these cats have on each other, 416 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:41,300 and I think the bedroom has a lot to do with it. We still have to de -emphasize 417 00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:45,240 that bedroom, and I want to see that the feeding exercise still has high value 418 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,940 to these cats. The goal is today to do a feeding exercise and to make sure that 419 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:50,660 we're doing it with some safe parameters. 420 00:24:51,260 --> 00:24:56,540 At this point in the game, the worst thing that could happen is a big full 421 00:24:56,540 --> 00:24:59,640 brawl, because that's going to take Farnsworth and just throw him back. 422 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:05,120 For this feeding exercise, I want the door open because it's not working. 423 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:10,220 time I see a cat at that door, there's an agenda. There's something going on 424 00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:14,920 besides just eating. We've got to X that door out of the picture. I know this is 425 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,540 a big risk, but without risk, there's no reward. 426 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,600 Come anywhere near the door. 427 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,780 Okay, so, door closed. 428 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:30,340 Here's where... 429 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,540 We get interesting. Okay, so I am going to open the door. 430 00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:41,300 Good. Mr. Farnsworth is eating. 431 00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:43,500 Now, if only Patton would eat. 432 00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:46,720 Good boy, Patton. Good boy. 433 00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:48,180 Eating is good. 434 00:25:48,899 --> 00:25:50,260 Good boy, Farnsworth. 435 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:51,460 Good boy. 436 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,400 He's watching very carefully about what's going on in here. There's so much 437 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,860 can go wrong right now. The last thing that I want is Patton making a beeline 438 00:25:58,860 --> 00:26:00,900 towards Farnsworth instead of eating that food. 439 00:26:02,540 --> 00:26:03,540 It's okay, Farnsworth. 440 00:26:03,940 --> 00:26:05,520 That's okay. Keep eating. It's okay. 441 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Don't worry. 442 00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:17,780 It's okay, Farnsworth. 443 00:26:18,290 --> 00:26:19,810 That's okay. Keep eating. It's okay. 444 00:26:20,030 --> 00:26:21,030 Don't worry. 445 00:26:23,370 --> 00:26:26,070 Any fight could be disastrous right now. 446 00:26:30,150 --> 00:26:33,890 If these cats could just continue feeding without fighting, it means we 447 00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:34,890 chance. 448 00:26:36,690 --> 00:26:37,629 Come on, honey. 449 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:38,489 It's okay. 450 00:26:38,490 --> 00:26:40,490 Come on and eat your food, buddy. Come on. 451 00:26:40,850 --> 00:26:45,130 Good boy, Farnsworth. Good boy. Farnsworth's still eating? Now listen, I 452 00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:46,430 want to take any chances here. 453 00:26:46,790 --> 00:26:47,790 Come on out. 454 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,140 Let them eat, give them some peace. 455 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:53,860 The fact that these cats could eat face -to -face without any aggression or a 456 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:57,960 closed door between them tells me there's progress, and now it's time to 457 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,700 the next steps forward. That gave us a lot of good information, and I think now 458 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:04,700 it's homework time. 459 00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:09,660 This area here is becoming a little more high value, but, you know, it's not 460 00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:14,360 done yet. I want the living room to be the place where good stuff happens. So 461 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,560 the first thing I want to start doing is... Base camp breakdown. 462 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320 And that means de -catifying your bedroom. 463 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:26,140 Everything of high value to the cats in that bedroom is coming out. 464 00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:30,200 Okay? The bedroom is still the promised land for these cats, and that doesn't 465 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,940 work for us at all. The bedroom is going to be extinguished in terms of being 466 00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:37,740 high value. We have to move every cat tree into the living room because I want 467 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:39,960 all good things to happen in the living room. 468 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,360 Next stop. 469 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:44,770 is we are now going to relocate the rituals. 470 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:48,810 Today, we found that we can have the door open, cats on either side, and they 471 00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:49,289 can eat. 472 00:27:49,290 --> 00:27:52,370 We're going to keep doing that. Every mealtime, we're going to have meals with 473 00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:55,730 the doors open. And then what we're going to do is we're going to keep 474 00:27:55,730 --> 00:27:59,590 our challenge line. Right now, it's inside the bedroom and right outside the 475 00:27:59,590 --> 00:28:00,469 bedroom in the hall. 476 00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:04,530 Where we're eventually going to get is right here. This is our finish line. 477 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,740 Everything that we're doing in this homework is about one thing only. The 478 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:13,460 room is a new territory that all four cats can embrace at the same time. If 479 00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:17,860 these guys don't do their homework, then fractures remain inside these 480 00:28:17,860 --> 00:28:20,240 relationships that will never get a chance to heal. 481 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,980 And there it is. 482 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:35,870 I'm on my way to check in with Matt, the cattery director here at Living Free 483 00:28:35,870 --> 00:28:40,470 Sanctuary. And last time I was here, we got Buddy and Tigger, formerly 484 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:45,030 aggressive cats, together with the rest of the general cat population for the 485 00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:49,390 first time in five years. And it went pretty well. Until Buddy's territorial 486 00:28:49,390 --> 00:28:51,050 issues started to overwhelm them. 487 00:28:51,370 --> 00:28:52,370 Hey, Matt. 488 00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:56,870 Now, if Matt has done the homework of increased socialization and 489 00:28:57,250 --> 00:29:01,810 I shouldn't hear any bad news. But if Buddy and Tigger got into some fights 490 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:04,350 since the last time I was here, they're going to continue to live in a world 491 00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:07,190 that is way too small for them, not living free. 492 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,020 It's looking good in here, man. 493 00:29:09,260 --> 00:29:12,380 It's looking good. You did your cat super highly. I see that right off the 494 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,700 man. It's really, really nice. It's just crazy the way they enjoy that. 495 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:20,480 With all of that traffic flow, a cat would have to go out of his or her way 496 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,140 pick a fight, and nobody here wants to do that. 497 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Okay, let's take a look at your homework, which was to open up the doors 498 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680 day. Tigger and Buddy are out, so we're going to let them out. 499 00:29:29,180 --> 00:29:30,760 I guess Tigger's a little excited. 500 00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:33,530 Oh, yeah, he wants out, man. 501 00:29:33,810 --> 00:29:37,970 I asked Matt to let Tigger and Buddy into the cattery for a few hours every 502 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:41,850 so they can get used to that space with the other cats. Now what I'm hoping to 503 00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:46,190 see is two confident, calm cats interacting peacefully with the rest of 504 00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:49,610 colony. There's Tigger. We want to watch Tigger and see how he does. 505 00:29:50,030 --> 00:29:52,390 Just body language -wise, it's really interesting to me. 506 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:54,290 Tail down, right? 507 00:29:54,610 --> 00:29:56,830 Heading right for this area, making a beeline. 508 00:29:57,030 --> 00:29:58,690 So what he's saying there is... 509 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Not 100 % confident about where I am right now, so I'm going to go to a safe 510 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,420 place. Now, the Tigger that you knew five years ago would have gone straight 511 00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:12,120 another cat. As Tigger's exploring new space, that's when he starts to get 512 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,140 uncomfortable. Don't forget, that run, he already owned it. 513 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,900 Apartment, he owned it. Big space, he's still a visitor, and he's trying to get 514 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,140 himself established, and it makes perfect sense that he'd be kind of 515 00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:23,819 about it. 516 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:25,040 Now, where's Buddy during all this? 517 00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:27,640 Buddy's normally the last one to come out. 518 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Nate, okay. 519 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,399 Uh -oh. 520 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,760 That was the first sign of a little aggression from Buddy. Hey, Buddy was 521 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:42,200 trapped. I'm not sure how to make this area so he doesn't feel trapped. 522 00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:46,280 But since then, I changed it. I made an escape hatch. 523 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,000 Now there's a way out. There's no dead end anymore. 524 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:54,880 I'm so impressed. I love watching Matt in video homework. He notices that we've 525 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,680 got a dead end happening here, and that he doesn't want. 526 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,980 He adjusts, he makes a trap door, and now we don't have a problem anymore. So 527 00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:04,480 picked today to clean his face. 528 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Hey, Haley, how's it going? 529 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,300 It's much cleaner than it was before. 530 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,800 What do you think, buddy? It smells better, too, huh? 531 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,840 Has the marking gone down, down there? Yeah, there's been nothing. 532 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,279 No way. 533 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,280 I'm shocked. 534 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,060 I expected it to get better with expanded territory, but not stop. 535 00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:23,500 You've got to be happy about that. 536 00:31:24,430 --> 00:31:26,050 The whole world for them has changed. 537 00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:30,590 It really has. The reason why these cats were spraying in the first place was 538 00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:35,050 they were in this teeny little space surrounded by a hundred other cats that 539 00:31:35,050 --> 00:31:39,730 they could smell and sometimes see, and they just felt absolutely insecure. 540 00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:44,050 As soon as the space was opened up to them, they just said, I know this space. 541 00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:45,050 don't need to do it anymore. 542 00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:49,150 Now, what I want to do is open the doors and let her rip. 543 00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:52,710 Even the apartment that only Buddy and Tigger have owned for the past five 544 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:56,530 years. It's time for that big challenge line before I leave here today. We're 545 00:31:56,530 --> 00:32:01,010 going to throw open every door and window they got. If Matt's remained 546 00:32:01,010 --> 00:32:04,510 in his homework, we should be seeing territorial confidence from both Tigger 547 00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:08,550 Buddy. If he hasn't, then we could be facing another traumatizing fight. 548 00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:09,890 Hey, you guys. 549 00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:11,790 Hey, you guys. What's that? 550 00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:13,490 Come on, Lilo. 551 00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:16,250 Oh, there's our boy. 552 00:32:17,950 --> 00:32:19,920 Okay. Traffic jam averted? 553 00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:21,619 Hey, buddy. 554 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:22,620 What are you doing? 555 00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:25,479 Uh -oh. 556 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,900 What is that, buddy? 557 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,979 That's Mr. 558 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:30,000 Tabio. You've never been here ever. 559 00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:33,590 Now I got Buddy inside, Tigger outside. 560 00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:37,530 Matt and I got to split up, divide and conquer right now. The worst case 561 00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:41,590 scenario is that throwing open all these doors will send Tigger into a 562 00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:45,670 territorial tizzy, and he's going to go right back into his old fight -picking 563 00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:49,030 ways, and then Buddy's going to follow suit, and you know what's going to 564 00:32:49,030 --> 00:32:52,310 then? Matt's going to lose his confidence, and these guys are going to 565 00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:54,850 into that apartment, and that I don't want to see. 566 00:32:55,130 --> 00:32:56,650 Come on, Buddy. Look at you. 567 00:32:57,330 --> 00:32:58,450 Here comes Lilo. 568 00:32:59,710 --> 00:33:00,710 Uh -oh. 569 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:07,280 hold on now buddy's a little nervous 570 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:17,880 hold 571 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,220 on now I'm at Living Free Sanctuary with Matt, the cattery supervisor. We've got 572 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:26,900 Tigger and Buddy, who previously were known to be pretty aggressive with every 573 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:32,020 other cat here, are finally being reintroduced in a so far peaceful way, 574 00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:33,820 things can go pretty wrong right now. Uh -oh. 575 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,100 Buddy's a little nervous. 576 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:39,140 A little nose to nose. 577 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520 There we go. We like traffic flow. 578 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,440 I'm just stepping back a little bit and watching this wonderful thing unfold 579 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,120 where relationships are being formed. 580 00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:52,350 Tigger's just watching everybody explore his space. He's not acting out. He's 581 00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:56,030 not doing what I would have expected Tigger to do, and I'm proud of him. 582 00:33:56,270 --> 00:33:57,530 Look at Buddy. He's fine. 583 00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:59,490 What a good boy, Buddy. 584 00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:04,090 To see Buddy come out and there wasn't a brawl, I was so relieved. 585 00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:07,690 Is that Buddy? We got Tigger and Buddy out. All right, we got everybody now. 586 00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:09,790 It's amazing how much has changed. 587 00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:14,909 I'm learning to trust the boys, you know? All I've seen today, and since the 588 00:34:14,909 --> 00:34:17,130 we opened the doors, is peaceful communication. 589 00:34:18,030 --> 00:34:20,730 Every now and again, there's a, hey, get your nose out of my butt. Sure. 590 00:34:21,170 --> 00:34:21,828 That's it. 591 00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:25,489 I see no reason why we can't just throw open all the doors at this point. 592 00:34:25,969 --> 00:34:30,650 Now we've proven that Buddy and Tigger are both perfectly social, wonderful 593 00:34:30,650 --> 00:34:34,810 cats. These guys can coexist with all these other cats without picking fights, 594 00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:37,790 and they can live out their life living free here. 595 00:34:38,110 --> 00:34:39,590 It's good to see your boys out. 596 00:34:39,810 --> 00:34:40,549 It's great. 597 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:41,690 It's been five years. 598 00:34:41,969 --> 00:34:45,690 Yeah, I was keeping them back. Thank God you showed up, man. 599 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,239 You're good with cats, and you're good with people, too. And we're all very 600 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,260 grateful, really. 601 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,120 Jackson taught me about a cat's world, how to expand it, how that makes him 602 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,240 comfortable. And now Tigger and Buddy's lives are going to be much better. It 603 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,680 means the world to me. It means the world to them. 604 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,160 Matt, it has been a pleasure meeting you. Thanks a lot. I think the future 605 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,480 really bright for all the cats here at Living Free and all the future cats to 606 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480 come. 607 00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:24,170 I'm here in Sausalito, California to meet up with sisters T, Tram, and Twa, 608 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:28,790 their heavenly cat, Rosie, who formed this bond with their dog, Lilo. They are 609 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:31,370 pair of adventurers, and I can't wait to adventure with them. 610 00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:33,290 Hey, guys. 611 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:38,890 Hi, Josh. How are you? Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm T. I'm Twa. I'm Tram. We foster 612 00:35:38,890 --> 00:35:43,030 and rescue a lot of cats that come through our home. We rescued Rosie when 613 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:44,030 was two weeks old. 614 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,840 It's very, very rare that I meet a cat in a backpack at the beach. 615 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,020 How did Rosie come into your life? 616 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,060 We got a call from a friend that found a kitten. She was weak, lethargic. 617 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,580 She wasn't feeding. 618 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,460 When we rescued Rosie, we tried everything we knew to try to get her to 619 00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:03,920 just didn't look like she was going to make it. 620 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,980 That's when we decided to put her with Lilo. 621 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,920 Lilo acted as her mother, you know, the mother figure that she needed. 622 00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:16,010 After a few hours of cuddling, she just started feeding. 623 00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:18,170 It was such an amazing turnaround. 624 00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:22,890 We actually had lined up a home for her, but then we just couldn't break up 625 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:23,669 their bond. 626 00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:26,450 And it was just so clear that she belonged with Lilo. 627 00:36:30,110 --> 00:36:32,210 Lilo and Rosie do everything together. 628 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:36,570 They go hiking together, swimming together, kayaking. 629 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:41,730 As enriching as she is to us, we want to help enrich her life as well with 630 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:44,310 adventures. As long as she's up for it, we're up for it too. 631 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:47,490 I imagine that we're at the beach for a reason. 632 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:49,230 So what are we here to do? 633 00:36:49,490 --> 00:36:51,110 We're going kayaking today. 634 00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:56,510 Oh, haven't been in a kayak, let alone been in a kayak with a cat and a dog. 635 00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:59,510 if Rosie can do it, I can do it, I think. 636 00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:01,890 Okay, go straight. 637 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:03,190 I'm doing it, right? 638 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,080 I am on the water with a dog and a cat, and I'm the one who's scared. 639 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,320 I'm not steering well. 640 00:37:14,380 --> 00:37:17,800 And the dog and the cat are like, what's the big deal? Rosie, you're so much 641 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,860 better at this than I am. 642 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,180 That's a little embarrassing. 643 00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:24,220 Oh, no, I'm going to hit you guys. 644 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:31,120 No! I hope that Lilo and Rosie teach people 645 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,680 more tolerance about each other, you know, about different races, different 646 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,500 species. It doesn't matter. We're all... in it together. 647 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,840 That was an experience. 648 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,780 You were something else. You are totally something else, my love. 649 00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:49,260 Amazing watching them on the water, and they're both just loving it. You know, 650 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:54,160 there's so much to learn from this cat and this dog and these sisters. The fact 651 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,000 that you can take a two -week -old kitten and turn them into this world 652 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,740 adventure, that dogs and cats can be friends. Goodbye, Lilo. 653 00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,040 Goodbye, Rosie. 654 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,940 Thank you again for having me. It was an amazing time. 655 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:10,860 I feel uplifted by how fearless everybody is here. And I'm talking about 656 00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:12,660 three humans, the dog and the cat. 657 00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:16,180 Fearless, loving life, and waiting for the next adventure. 658 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,080 Oh, my God, oh, my God. 659 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,540 If Patton and Mr. Farnsworth, who have a big, bad history together, can hang out 660 00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:27,760 in the same room, I know there's hope for everybody else. 661 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,880 This is the moment where we see if all of our hard work has finally paid off. 662 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:42,640 Oh, my God, don't hurt each other. 663 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,880 Oh, my God, oh, my God. 664 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,220 I'm heading in for my third visit with Jason and Stephanie. The last time I was 665 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:56,700 here, this couple was working really hard to create a family out of Mr. 666 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,920 Farnsworth and Montgomery and Patton and Gibson. 667 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,220 We've made some gains, but there's still a ways to go before these guys can all 668 00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:07,260 coexist in the same room. Since the last time I was here, has there been any 669 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:08,260 major fights? No. 670 00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:10,560 Right on. 671 00:39:10,830 --> 00:39:13,090 Fantastic, man. Let's look at your video homework. 672 00:39:14,650 --> 00:39:20,230 This is to show that we are trying to take all the high -value items out of 673 00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:27,210 bedroom. No tree, no stuff over here. The whole idea here is to move the 674 00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:31,190 of this home and the relationships that are in this home to a different place. 675 00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:36,510 That bedroom was poisonous. The bed, the cat furniture, it was all over -owned, 676 00:39:36,590 --> 00:39:38,090 and it was all competed for. 677 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,940 The whole house to be territory that the cats could own. Here are all four cats. 678 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:45,420 Eating, eating, eating. 679 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,360 Door's open. 680 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,640 Whoa. 681 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,520 Ladies and gentlemen, this is huge. 682 00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:52,840 Wow. That's incredible. 683 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,800 Look at that. They just keep getting better. Look at that. They just keep 684 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,558 getting better. 685 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,960 That moment informs the rest of their relationship from now on. No fights. 686 00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:04,300 No bullying. Now we've extinguished the bedroom. 687 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:06,700 This area is now becoming... 688 00:40:06,910 --> 00:40:11,070 Just as important as the bedroom. So what I want to see is Patton and 689 00:40:11,070 --> 00:40:15,130 being able to occupy this space at the same time without fireworks. 690 00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:16,350 Mr. Farnsworth. 691 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:17,890 Oh, Mr. 692 00:40:18,130 --> 00:40:22,410 Farnsworth. What I need is indications that we're on the right road. If Patton 693 00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:22,868 and Mr. 694 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:27,170 Farnsworth, who have a big, bad history together, can hang out in the same room, 695 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:28,770 I know there's hope for everybody else. 696 00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:31,090 Hi, look, it's your friend. All right. 697 00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:32,930 We have cats. Hi, buddy. 698 00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:37,260 This is the moment where we see if all of our hard work has finally paid off. 699 00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:38,800 You're a good boy now. 700 00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:42,380 Look at Farnsworth. 701 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:43,940 That's your brother. 702 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:50,960 Yeah. I don't sense any animosity, and that's all very good for me. When I 703 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,520 met Mr. Farnsworth, he was very territorially aggressive. 704 00:40:56,060 --> 00:41:00,840 There's no sign of that right now at all. He's just in the space. He's not in 705 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,200 the space with an agenda to kill. 706 00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:08,880 is about two cats forming a relationship as we're standing here. So that, to me, 707 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,080 is everything that I needed to get you guys to. 708 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,360 Success in this home is about expanding, about making the world bigger. He needs 709 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,360 to break down physical walls in order to break down relationship walls. I mean, 710 00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:22,880 no fights, no bullying. 711 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,800 Everything is working according to plan. You have an entire house to open up to 712 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,560 these guys. Now the bedroom door can stay open for good. I don't think you're 713 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,560 going to have any problems. 714 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:34,650 Take care of yourself, okay? 715 00:41:35,530 --> 00:41:38,690 Basically, for the last two years, our cats have been trying to kill each 716 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:41,050 Now, we can all live together peacefully. 717 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:45,470 This is happening. 718 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:48,770 This is great. 719 00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:52,930 That's Montgomery and Patton eating their dinner. 720 00:41:53,830 --> 00:41:56,970 Right over here is Farnsworth and Gibson eating their dinner. 721 00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:58,210 Good boys. 722 00:42:00,950 --> 00:42:01,950 Look look look. 723 00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:03,070 Yeah, look at that 62867

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