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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,700 The three cats that we have are Good Kitty, Flea, and Tiny Dancer. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,480 The boys are kind of a little dang. 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:13,740 Good Kitty is afraid to eat. She doesn't want to use her litter box. She's 4 00:00:13,740 --> 00:00:14,740 living in fear. 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,580 I don't know what to do. I'm really frustrated. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,940 Sorry, Good Kitty. We're going to try to get you some help. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,360 We have two cats. Their names are Tiki and Marley. When we took them home, they 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,240 started suckling our blankets right away, and that turned into a bad habit. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Tiki, no. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,120 When I see something that they have eaten, I just see dollar signs. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,600 I am so frustrated with this problem. It just boils my blood. I just get to the 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,600 point where I just want to lash out. Tiki, no. 13 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:47,240 No. I just feel hopeless. 14 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:51,700 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 15 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:53,200 Oh my God, I love my job. 16 00:00:53,460 --> 00:00:57,960 The animal behaviors that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,960 cat. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,080 That really ups the stakes a little bit here. 19 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:07,120 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,300 my help. Thank you. 21 00:01:19,690 --> 00:01:20,509 I'm Nora. 22 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:21,510 And I'm Mike. 23 00:01:21,550 --> 00:01:26,110 We're both drummers, and we met in 2004 on the Vans Warped Tour. 24 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:30,450 Started dating and got engaged and almost married five years ago. 25 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:36,410 The three cats that we have are Good Kitty, Sleeve, and Tiny Dancer. When we 26 00:01:36,410 --> 00:01:40,790 went to meet Good Kitty, I immediately started crying when I saw her because it 27 00:01:40,790 --> 00:01:41,749 was just really emotional. 28 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:45,310 She reminded me so much of my dad, Cat Tootsie. And I didn't want to feel like 29 00:01:45,310 --> 00:01:48,510 was trying to replace Tootsie, but at the same time I... 30 00:01:48,890 --> 00:01:50,390 Didn't want her to go to the shelter. 31 00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:51,690 Are you a good kitty? 32 00:01:53,770 --> 00:01:55,170 Then we've got two others. 33 00:01:57,870 --> 00:01:59,390 Sleeve, who's the big bully. 34 00:02:01,230 --> 00:02:06,350 And then Tiny Dancer, who's more of the silent stalker type. He creeps up on 35 00:02:06,350 --> 00:02:07,350 Good Kitty. 36 00:02:07,710 --> 00:02:09,750 And then when she bolts, he goes after her. 37 00:02:13,810 --> 00:02:16,710 The boys are kind of a little gang. 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,380 They see Good Kitty, and they scare her. 39 00:02:20,580 --> 00:02:24,980 She's afraid to eat. She doesn't want to use her litter box, and she wants to go 40 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:26,780 outside because she knows the boys don't go outside. 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,380 She's living in fear. 42 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:29,920 Who's out there? 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,000 Mike's approach to solving the cat problem is isolating Good Kitty in the 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,140 bedroom, and she's closed in one room all day long, and I don't think that's 45 00:02:38,140 --> 00:02:42,300 fair. I'm the police here in the house, and she just wants them to be together, 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,820 and her style is, oh, no, they'll figure it out, and they haven't figured it 47 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:49,280 out. I don't know what to do. I'm really frustrated. 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,500 Try his way. Try my way. 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Nothing. 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,900 Sorry, good kitty. We're going to try to get you some help. 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,420 I'm in Burbank heading to meet up with guardians Mike and Nora. 52 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:07,040 They've adopted three cats, good kitty, tiny dancer, and sleeve. 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,540 From what I've heard, tiny dancer and sleeve. 54 00:03:09,950 --> 00:03:13,270 have been ganging up pretty mercilessly on Good Kitty, who's having a pretty 55 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:14,830 rough time being the odd cat out. 56 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:20,150 Now, hopefully, I can get in there and get these cats and this couple living a 57 00:03:20,150 --> 00:03:22,750 little more harmoniously. Doesn't sound like it's going to be easy. 58 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:24,690 Hey, Jack. 59 00:03:24,990 --> 00:03:28,670 Hey, I'm Mike. Hey, Mike. How are you? Good to meet you guys. 60 00:03:28,990 --> 00:03:30,310 Good Kitty's right here. 61 00:03:30,590 --> 00:03:31,590 Hi, my little love. 62 00:03:32,310 --> 00:03:35,390 She's the one who gets bullied by the two boys. 63 00:03:35,630 --> 00:03:36,830 How long has that been going on? 64 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:38,770 Over a year. Over a year, yeah. Sweet. 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,940 Had them the whole time. Are the boys neutered? Yeah. 66 00:03:42,620 --> 00:03:44,280 Are you getting bullied by the big boy? 67 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:48,140 Meeting good kitty, I can tell you right off the bat, she's not scared of me, 68 00:03:48,220 --> 00:03:49,220 but she's suspicious. 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,480 She's very tight in her physicality. She's scared of something else. 70 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:57,300 What was her story? She came in before the other guy? Yes. When we had lost our 71 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,420 cat, I wanted Nora to get on with let's get another cat. 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,280 So we got her and we took her and she was great. 73 00:04:05,140 --> 00:04:06,140 And then... 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Why stop there? 75 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:11,180 A month later, we adopted the boys, and there was no introduction process. 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Just, hello, here they are. 77 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:14,420 Work it out. 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,260 No. The boys just chased good kitty into the open pantry. 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,820 Are you okay, kitty? 80 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:30,060 Before we go any further, can we explore the house? I want to follow the path of 81 00:04:30,060 --> 00:04:33,140 destruction. Well, it starts in the bedroom. Let's go to the bedroom. Let's 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,910 So here is... Good kitty's set up. 83 00:04:37,570 --> 00:04:41,970 She has her own litter box, scratching post, food and water. 84 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:47,150 Is there ever a time when all three cats are in this space? Oh, yeah. This is 85 00:04:47,150 --> 00:04:48,150 when I'm on tour, though. 86 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Wait, so what's the difference between when you're not on tour? I don't let it 87 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:52,780 happen. I'm keeping separated. 88 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:56,840 I'm keeping separated. What's that room right there? That's where they are right 89 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,120 now. What would happen if that door were open? 90 00:04:59,340 --> 00:05:03,460 Oh, they'd come out. The only way to challenge and assess Good Kitty is for 91 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:07,260 other not -so -good kitties to be let loose. Right now, both Sleeve and Tiny 92 00:05:07,260 --> 00:05:11,320 Dancer are locked away in the guest room. I want to see the other two cats 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,540 and I want to see them interacting with Good Kitty. 94 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,720 Hello, one cat. Who's the orange one? 95 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:17,560 The orange one is Tiny Dancer. 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,320 And there we go. Okay, so cool. We got him on the move. 97 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:26,000 So what is Tiny looking for right now? Tiny's looking for Good Kitty. I would 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,760 imagine that she's in a constant state of fight or flight, but really just 99 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,640 fight. She's always looking over her shoulder. 100 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,340 Is it safe to say that Good Kitty is always that cat unless they're locked up 101 00:05:38,340 --> 00:05:39,340 she's outside? 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,780 Yeah. See, that sucks. 103 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,720 It's hard for me to follow his rule of not letting her out. 104 00:05:45,980 --> 00:05:48,610 Because... I see how happy she is. Yeah. 105 00:05:49,490 --> 00:05:53,250 I'm happy to let her out, too, but I sit there and watch her. 106 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:57,890 It's just, you've got to keep your eye on her. From listening to Mike and Nora, 107 00:05:58,130 --> 00:06:01,250 I understand why nothing is getting any better in this house. These guys are a 108 00:06:01,250 --> 00:06:03,650 total stalemate when it comes to how to take care of these cats. 109 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:10,530 In your shoes, you never get any kind of stability because you come off the 110 00:06:10,530 --> 00:06:11,590 road. You're trying to now. 111 00:06:12,030 --> 00:06:15,690 get a way of operating here that hasn't been happening at all. And the second 112 00:06:15,690 --> 00:06:19,090 you leave, that's gone. And now you're coming back and you do it again. 113 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:21,570 We've got to find a middle ground. Exactly. 114 00:06:22,030 --> 00:06:26,170 Look at how he's going back. That's his window he normally looks out. 115 00:06:26,470 --> 00:06:28,190 See, now he's looking for her. 116 00:06:28,470 --> 00:06:29,970 Again, I haven't seen Sleeve yet. 117 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:33,670 You go at the head of the hallway there. 118 00:06:34,030 --> 00:06:37,370 When you turn the tables on a bully, they usually turn tail, and that's 119 00:06:37,370 --> 00:06:39,550 happening with Sleeve right now. He's under the bed somewhere. 120 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:43,070 I've got to get these cats as close together as possible, because in order 121 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:46,090 me to come up with solutions, I've got to see what the problem looks like for a 122 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:47,090 pen. 123 00:06:47,290 --> 00:06:48,370 Hello, little boy. 124 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:50,950 Okay, let's see what happens when you let him go. 125 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:52,710 Let's see. 126 00:06:53,130 --> 00:06:56,950 I feel that Tiny's learning his bad manners from Sleeve. Oh, there she is. 127 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,720 Just follow, please. Everybody just, I just want to see. 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:08,660 Okay, so little good kitty is now in here hiding behind dad's cloak, as 129 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:13,380 it were. So she's safe because she's with you. Good kitty acts her part as a 130 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:17,200 squeaky toy, as the most fun thing to chase in this house. 131 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:22,530 Good kitty was taking her place as a mojito cat, walking around like she owns 132 00:07:22,530 --> 00:07:27,150 the place. Believe me, these other two cats will back off because the payoff is 133 00:07:27,150 --> 00:07:28,150 just not there. 134 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:29,570 All right, the toy trick. 135 00:07:30,570 --> 00:07:31,810 Off we go with toy. 136 00:07:33,850 --> 00:07:35,810 Boop. Tiny wants in. Oh, hi, Tiny. 137 00:07:37,210 --> 00:07:39,150 Oh, wow, he's like right in, right? 138 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:45,150 You going to jump up here? 139 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,300 Okay, so that's cool. 140 00:07:48,220 --> 00:07:52,320 But you're telling me also that he's not our main concern, right? He'll follow 141 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,119 Slee's lead. 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Yeah. 143 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,320 There you go, my love. Come on up. Come on up. Come here, baby. Come here, 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,620 please. So she is really struggling. 145 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:08,000 She's hungry. I know she is, but I cannot get her to get herself out into 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,880 open to take those treats because as soon as she makes herself available, she 147 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,880 knows it's game on. 148 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,880 So far, I've used toys and treats to lure Good Kitty out of the corner, and I 149 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,620 got nothing to show for it. Now, Mike and Nora tell me that Good Kitty's a 150 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:26,000 confident cat when she's outside because she's away from Tiny Dancer and Sleeve. 151 00:08:26,460 --> 00:08:30,660 So, we're going to try to lure her outside into the fence yard because I 152 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:34,240 see the kind of cat they're talking about. Even though it's drizzling out 153 00:08:34,460 --> 00:08:38,000 you think that she would actually come out? Because, you know, by and large, 154 00:08:38,059 --> 00:08:39,940 cats do not like rain. I think she might. 155 00:08:40,539 --> 00:08:43,559 Either turn around and go back in, or God only knows where she's going to go. 156 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,480 She might go for the wall and go over. You know what I mean? I don't know. Go 157 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 ahead. See what you can do if it's shaking food, doing whatever. 158 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:53,440 All I know is that good kitty's always got one eye on outside. 159 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,540 And there's all kinds of bad things waiting for her outside this yard. So 160 00:08:57,540 --> 00:09:01,140 really dangerous situation, but one I can totally sympathize with. 161 00:09:01,340 --> 00:09:03,180 Look at her standing there, tail down. 162 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:05,420 Tiny's on the counter looking down. 163 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:07,440 You might drop down on her. 164 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,920 That is not a good position right now. 165 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Look at her standing there, tail down. 166 00:09:22,940 --> 00:09:25,020 That is not a good position right now. 167 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:27,840 Oh, here he comes. 168 00:09:31,340 --> 00:09:33,220 She ain't coming out here, that's for sure. 169 00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:37,600 Is she back on the chair? She's underneath. 170 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,780 Okay. The situation seems under control for now. 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,820 I've got to give these guys some tools to help these cats go to bed. 172 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,460 Let's start talking about the three R's. And the three R's are... 173 00:09:49,419 --> 00:09:53,380 Routine, ritual, rhythm. Whether you're on the road or not on the road, the day 174 00:09:53,380 --> 00:09:54,380 is going to look the same. 175 00:09:54,620 --> 00:09:58,100 First thing that's the ingredient to this day, we're going to move to just 176 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:02,480 times around here. Three times a day, morning, get home from work, and right 177 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,740 before you go to bed, we're going to have this routine where the cats can 178 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:08,280 up to their food, eat, and walk away. 179 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:13,820 And no, no posturing, no nothing. One other big part of the three R's is sight 180 00:10:13,820 --> 00:10:17,380 swapping. The fact is, she has to own out here sometimes. 181 00:10:18,010 --> 00:10:20,670 No way she can be mojito if all she ever owns is your bedroom. 182 00:10:20,890 --> 00:10:23,510 And the other guy's got to know what it feels like to be back there. 183 00:10:23,730 --> 00:10:27,530 Okay, so you take those routines, you turn them into rituals that happen day 184 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:29,230 and day out, and that becomes your daily rhythm. 185 00:10:29,850 --> 00:10:33,470 Next, I'd like to see some catification with some shelves, especially out here 186 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:37,030 in the living room. Good Kitty needs a way where she can escape from Sleeve and 187 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:40,990 Tiny Dancer and eventually become confident in this open, shared area of 188 00:10:40,990 --> 00:10:44,840 living room. Here's your challenge. Your challenge is, I want you to have... a 189 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,900 way for her to get from the bedroom out here without being on the ground. I want 190 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:54,960 something in that hallway where she can be up and out, right? So a whole hallway 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,240 is a revolving door because right now, again, just because of the layout of the 192 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:04,880 house, there's no way for her to get from A to B without, you know, the okay 193 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,460 corral happening, right? That standoff. So I want you to find a vertical way for 194 00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:12,960 her to get out of there. That leads us to mojito training. 195 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,700 So I want you to be able to use all of these revolving doors, the catification 196 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:21,880 that we're putting up here, the cat superhighway, and start leading her 197 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,280 the house. During play, you can use treats because she's pretty highly food 198 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,760 motivated by just leading her. The idea is this. Let me demonstrate to you. 199 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,020 So, I'm her. 200 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:34,420 She's coming from this hallway out to the rest of the world. 201 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,020 She is used to the fact that once she gets out in the open, she's going to get 202 00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:38,839 her ass kicked. 203 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,520 So this becomes an electrified fence. 204 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,780 Every time she comes here, there's going to be that pause. 205 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:50,180 By you leading her with a toy, by you leading her with treats, and you're just 206 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:54,940 telling her, come follow me, you're trying to de -emphasize these 207 00:11:54,940 --> 00:12:01,680 fences so that your goal is, instead of going like this, that's it. That's all I 208 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:04,880 want. That automatically makes a mojito cat. 209 00:12:05,660 --> 00:12:08,040 Now, the other part of the equation is you guys. 210 00:12:08,939 --> 00:12:13,140 which every time you speak, you demonstrate the fact that you are on 211 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:16,740 sides of the planet when it comes to the solution here. 212 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,440 I want you to come up with these three R's together, and I want you to write 213 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:20,999 this down. 214 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,460 I want to know what the rules of engagement are, what every day looks 215 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:29,460 the ritual looks like, what the rhythm of each day looks like, so when I get 216 00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:36,000 back here, we can go over that contract of each day and tweak it. I am giving 217 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Mike and Nora the ingredients. 218 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,600 to a safe and happy home. And it's up to them to take those ingredients and turn 219 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,379 them into a rhythm. 220 00:12:44,380 --> 00:12:48,140 With all of this said, how are you feeling right now? I know we can totally 221 00:12:48,140 --> 00:12:52,780 this because she obsesses on detail and you've laid some detail out. Cool. 222 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Jackson gave us a lot of homework and I'm concerned about keeping up with this 223 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,620 new routine because there's a lot of changes coming. 224 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:02,900 But we're going to figure it out. We're going to figure it out. All right, guys. 225 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,380 I'll talk to you soon. Good to meet you both. Thanks, Jackson. See you. Bye 226 00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:06,159 -bye. 227 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,220 Poor good kitty. I mean, this girl is a target. She's a wallflower. She's 228 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:14,900 intimidated at all times. My job right now is to get that cat feeling her 229 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:16,880 mojito, and then we got a chance here. 230 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Hi, I'm Ashley. 231 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,020 Hi, I'm Richard. We have two cats who are brothers. Their names are Tiki and 232 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:29,020 Marley. 233 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Marley? 234 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:33,400 and we saved them from a kill shelter. 235 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:36,420 You guys aren't supposed to be in there. That's why the tape's on there. When we 236 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:40,460 took them home, they were five weeks old, and they started suckling our 237 00:13:40,460 --> 00:13:41,460 right away. 238 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:43,239 I know. 239 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,240 I know. 240 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,700 We thought it was cute, you know, because they're so small, and we were, 241 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:50,840 watching them, like, oh, wow, look at them, you know, that's so interesting 242 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:51,840 so kind of... So cute. 243 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:52,900 Get! 244 00:13:53,580 --> 00:13:56,580 And that really turned into a bad habit. 245 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,960 Tiki, no. 246 00:13:58,420 --> 00:13:59,420 Don't you eat that. 247 00:13:59,690 --> 00:14:02,490 When I see something that they have eaten, I just see dollar signs. 248 00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:03,990 You're eating it. 249 00:14:04,730 --> 00:14:05,890 You're eating the carpet. 250 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:09,030 I think the worst thing that could happen with the cats is they die. 251 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:14,510 One or both of them will eat something that they cannot pass, and we may not 252 00:14:14,510 --> 00:14:16,350 to them in time to bring them to the vet. 253 00:14:17,830 --> 00:14:21,950 We absolutely love our cats. They're kid -friendly, they're great with us, but 254 00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:23,410 they keep eating everything. 255 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:27,190 It's definitely gotten worse. 256 00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:31,630 now that we have kids. Because we're sleep deprived, we have our own stresses 257 00:14:31,630 --> 00:14:33,390 with the kids, and now the cat. 258 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:34,710 Oh, come on. 259 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:39,270 I am so frustrated with this problem. It just boils my blood. 260 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:40,950 Busted. Busted. 261 00:14:41,370 --> 00:14:43,310 Busted. You're busted. 262 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:48,170 I just get to the point where I just want to lash out. 263 00:14:49,310 --> 00:14:50,670 Nope. Bad. 264 00:14:51,010 --> 00:14:52,010 I just feel hopeless. 265 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,040 So I'm in Las Vegas and I'm going to meet up with Rich and Ashley. They've 266 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,440 two young kids and two cats, Tiki and Marley, who are chewing these guys out 267 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,560 house and home. Tiki. 268 00:15:05,580 --> 00:15:08,220 No. And hoping I can do something about it. Hello. 269 00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:11,500 Welcome. How are you doing? How are you, Ashley? 270 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:15,200 Ashley, good to meet you. I'm Rich. What's up, Rich? Good to see you. 271 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:17,440 Richie and Rich. And who's that? 272 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Tiki. And who else do we have? Marley. 273 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Tiki and Marley. He's upstairs. 274 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,280 Hello, Mr. Tiki. 275 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,780 Tiki's how old? Five years old. They're brothers. 276 00:15:26,260 --> 00:15:29,160 Littermates. And where'd you get them from? We saved them from a kill shelter. 277 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Right on, girl. And they were how old when you got them? We think they were 278 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,320 about five weeks old, maybe six. 279 00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:40,660 Yeah, we know that they were weaned too early from their mom, and that's why we 280 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:42,140 think that they have this issue. 281 00:15:42,380 --> 00:15:43,380 So what are they doing? 282 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:44,500 Eating everything. 283 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:45,959 Couch pillows. 284 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,960 There we go. Oh, there. 285 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,080 And this one. 286 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:49,920 You can really see it on this one. 287 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,480 So both brothers do this? 288 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Yeah. Is this as bad as it gets in terms of damage? 289 00:15:55,820 --> 00:15:59,520 I would say so, yeah. I mean, this is our duvet covers. That's a good one. Let 290 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,540 me see that one. We knew that it was an issue. I bought him a blanket, and it 291 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:07,820 looked like Swiss cheese when you held it up from all the holes in it. That was 292 00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:10,720 the first time you noticed anything? That I noticed an issue. How old was he? 293 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,500 just brought him home. Oh, that young. 294 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Okay. When I have the information that I have cats that are chewing on things, 295 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,880 Second I cross the threshold, I'm checking out the environment. 296 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,000 I'm also trying to figure out how long the behavior is happening. 297 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:28,380 And from what I'm hearing right now, it started when they were very young, and 298 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:31,560 it's continued at the same level since they were very young. 299 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Babies are a whole different ball of wax for cats. 300 00:16:35,260 --> 00:16:39,780 The movement, the sound, the crying, the smell, everything is different for 301 00:16:39,780 --> 00:16:41,960 them. Have the cats ever been aggressive towards the kids? 302 00:16:42,220 --> 00:16:45,800 The cats have never swatted at the kids because they would have been. 303 00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,900 Gone. I'll pretend I didn't hear that one. 304 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,620 Cats are family and not furniture. They're not something that we just look 305 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:57,780 and we admire. They're family members, and like all family members, they have 306 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:02,700 their peculiarities. I got this little, like, edge of, like, I can't keep this 307 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:08,140 up. Are you guys getting to that point where, you know, are you getting to the 308 00:17:08,140 --> 00:17:09,139 point? I am. 309 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:10,140 I'm the one. 310 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,420 you know, find my bedsheets completely chewed. But then I lash out on him. 311 00:17:16,420 --> 00:17:19,800 go the cats again. There go, you know, another pair of bedsheets, another thing 312 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,720 of pillowcases, another, you know. It's okay. 313 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,260 Mommy's just getting angry at the cats. 314 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,380 If you're blowing up all the time and you can't handle all this, is it another 315 00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:34,640 case of like... For me it is because I'm home all day with the cats and the 316 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:40,720 kids. Ashley is right at that peak of... These cats are almost out of here. It's 317 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,000 also a matter of one more hole in a blanket. They're gone. They're out of 318 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:47,920 So have you guys had the discussion about rehoming these guys? I don't want 319 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,899 do it. Yeah. 320 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:53,080 I really don't. Well, clearly we've got to get a handle on this because you guys 321 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,600 are at that place, or at least actually you are. 322 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,440 It's incredibly hard to be holding a three -month -old and trying to make 323 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,800 everything is picked up. 324 00:18:03,130 --> 00:18:06,270 Sometimes I just say, you know what, I'm just going to leave it out, and if it 325 00:18:06,270 --> 00:18:08,970 gets eaten, it gets eaten. That's to the point I'm at. 326 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:10,190 What do you want me to do? 327 00:18:10,750 --> 00:18:13,550 To figure out what's the underlying issue. 328 00:18:13,810 --> 00:18:19,670 Okay. What might throw me over the edge is if something happens and now we're 329 00:18:19,670 --> 00:18:23,810 spending $2 ,000 to $3 ,000 at the vet for an emergency surgery in the middle 330 00:18:23,810 --> 00:18:27,330 the night. We've already identified that this couch is what I call a hot spot. 331 00:18:27,550 --> 00:18:28,550 What other... 332 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:31,000 Hot spots are there in the house, or are there? 333 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,020 There are if I leave a door open. So if I left one of my kids' doors open, they 334 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:37,940 would go right in. And chew? And chew. 335 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,140 You know, I'd really like to see these hot spots. 336 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:42,020 Absolutely. So let's go take a walk. Let's go. 337 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Well, one of them is this little toy. 338 00:18:48,540 --> 00:18:49,540 His tail. 339 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:51,360 No. Poor little guy's tail. 340 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,660 Okay. But these toys aren't cheap. 341 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:56,900 You know, and they're gifted to us, and then... 342 00:18:57,310 --> 00:18:58,490 They get chewed. 343 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:01,410 But I got to say, that ain't much. 344 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:05,530 But on every toy, it gets to the point where. 345 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:07,470 Right, I get it. You know. 346 00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:12,550 And it begins and ends here. So it's not in the Velcro. 347 00:19:12,910 --> 00:19:17,250 I think it's things that are, if it, you know, is on its back and it's sitting 348 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:21,510 there staring at him like, come eat me. Come eat me. Like this kind of thing, 349 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:23,810 right? Yeah, like, look at that. It's so inviting. 350 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,440 So inviting, right? 351 00:19:26,660 --> 00:19:30,720 And other, but here's the important thing for me. 352 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,140 Here's the important thing for me. 353 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,040 No plastic. 354 00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:37,260 No plastic. 355 00:19:37,420 --> 00:19:40,240 No plastic. No fabric. Big, big, big distinction. 356 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,060 Is your toy okay? 357 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,700 He's like, yeah, my tail. 358 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:47,720 So, mine. 359 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,260 We can also go upstairs. Yeah, we can go upstairs. 360 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,680 Let's go do that. 361 00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:56,810 All I'm worried about is what materials they are and how fast I can send these 362 00:19:56,810 --> 00:20:00,930 guys to the hospital. I'm not caring about a hole here and a hole there. I 363 00:20:00,930 --> 00:20:03,990 about these cats winding up in the emergency room. Here's our blanket. 364 00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:09,850 Oh, that's pretty hot. Look at it. This blanket has been destroyed. 365 00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:14,030 Look at that. Look at that bad boy. That's a good one. 366 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:15,510 Oh, here's Swiss cheese. 367 00:20:15,930 --> 00:20:20,670 Okay. And so everything that you're pretty much hiding in here. 368 00:20:21,130 --> 00:20:26,430 You hide in here because of them? Yeah. Oh, my heating blanket got it. Ooh, 369 00:20:26,530 --> 00:20:27,530 well, that's dangerous. 370 00:20:27,690 --> 00:20:29,510 This was in my bed. 371 00:20:30,110 --> 00:20:33,770 Part of my job right now is to create perspective here, that this isn't really 372 00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:36,090 about a blanket. This isn't about clothes. 373 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:41,730 This is about the lives of two of your family members that are very much 374 00:20:41,730 --> 00:20:42,489 in the balance. 375 00:20:42,490 --> 00:20:48,510 They could very easily chomp on a wire, and that's not just a hole in a blanket. 376 00:20:48,590 --> 00:20:49,990 That's a hole in a cat. 377 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,520 not to mention a huge fire hazard. 378 00:20:57,980 --> 00:21:04,880 They could very easily chomp on a wire, and that's not 379 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,400 just a hole in a blanket. That's a hole in a cat. 380 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,940 Rich and Ashley both are much more focused on the damage to their good than 381 00:21:12,940 --> 00:21:14,860 potential danger that these cats face. 382 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:18,280 This is interesting also to me. Look over to this tree over here. 383 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,700 So, again, we're looking at fabrics. We're looking at, I mean, come on, this 384 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:23,639 pretty dangerous. 385 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,940 When we talk about an invitation to a bad problem, a scytheful rope that's 386 00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:32,640 dangling loose or anything that's long and stringy like yarn or wool or a wire, 387 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,460 that's a huge problem because that's what winds up getting wrapped around 388 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:40,100 intestinal tracts. And, by the way, that's something that will kill your 389 00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:43,320 I feel like I've got every bit of information that I needed. 390 00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:46,420 Here's what we're dealing with. Tiki and Marley have pica. 391 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:51,450 Pica is a condition that literally is described as the ingestion of foreign 392 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:55,110 materials. It's not really something we can cure. 393 00:21:56,590 --> 00:22:01,910 Unfortunately, it's one of those things where science is pretty stumped. I just 394 00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:06,410 can't believe that it's pica. That's not what I wanted to hear. That was just a 395 00:22:06,410 --> 00:22:10,370 bone crusher. The way it works with pica is... They go from wool suckers to 396 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:13,450 kittens, and then they start eating the fabric. Then they're going to graduate 397 00:22:13,450 --> 00:22:14,269 to plastics. 398 00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:18,630 Now they're eating anything that's not nailed down. I mean, it is a nightmare. 399 00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:22,990 And my theory is with your guys, these guys were taken away from mom way too 400 00:22:22,990 --> 00:22:28,550 early, and this weaning becomes a full -on ritual that reminds them of being 401 00:22:28,550 --> 00:22:32,370 little kittens. So that's why they do this kind of thing. That's the 402 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:35,510 okay? Now, what I'd like you to start looking at... 403 00:22:35,870 --> 00:22:38,170 is your cats as family members. 404 00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:42,030 Because you won't be able to solve this problem without being fully committed to 405 00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:46,350 the entire family, and that has to include Tiki and Marley. It's about you 406 00:22:46,350 --> 00:22:50,150 getting on the same page right now, because in order to sort of embrace the 407 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:51,950 of this program, that's where it starts. 408 00:22:52,210 --> 00:22:57,170 So let's take a look at your house right now. Oh, baby gates and locks on the 409 00:22:57,170 --> 00:23:01,060 cabinets. This you have on every doorknob in your house. This is stuff 410 00:23:01,060 --> 00:23:04,520 probably say, I would rather not have these things, but I do because I'm a 411 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,920 That's what I'd like you to start getting towards with the cats. 412 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,200 If they ingest, let's say, that sisal rope that's hanging off those cat trees, 413 00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:15,220 if they eat that, chances are you're either in the emergency room at 3 o 414 00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:17,780 in the morning or you missed that opportunity and they die. 415 00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:23,040 So pica -proofing. There can be nothing that is a fabric that they've gone after 416 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,420 before that is long. Another pica -proofing thing, by the way, is your cat 417 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:31,640 trees. We want to make sure that you either hot glue all of those ropes or 418 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,280 them off. Anything that hides wires, electric blankets, should be kept far 419 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,200 from them. These guys are not chewers out of necessity. 420 00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:41,100 They're chewers out of opportunity. 421 00:23:41,710 --> 00:23:46,230 Next thing is we replace things that are non -ingestible with things that are 422 00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:50,810 ingestible in the areas where the chewing tends to occur. Dog toys are 423 00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:54,730 a really cool thing. So they can chomp on them. They can get that chewing mojo 424 00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:58,450 going on without the fear of something that's going to kill them. So be aware. 425 00:23:58,610 --> 00:23:59,609 Be proactive. 426 00:23:59,610 --> 00:24:04,390 There are certain dog bones that are chewable, which is to say that if the 427 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:07,190 chews them and ingests them, they actually do break down. They're made of 428 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:09,250 organic material, and they won't clog up anything. 429 00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:12,970 Hopefully we're going to see you guys really getting on top of this problem. 430 00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:16,290 If something was to happen to the cats, it would be devastating. 431 00:24:16,530 --> 00:24:21,350 It's on us. It's not on them. They don't know that they have this disease. So if 432 00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:25,970 we don't do our part, then it would be a shame on us to not help them because 433 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:26,970 they could die. 434 00:24:27,150 --> 00:24:28,530 It's going to be challenging. 435 00:24:28,970 --> 00:24:32,990 All right, guys. I will see you in just a few weeks. Perfect. 436 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:34,970 Thank you. Let's get to work. Sounds good. 437 00:24:35,170 --> 00:24:35,929 Bye, guys. 438 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:36,950 Bye. Thank you. 439 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:41,310 Man, I can't tell you how important it is that Rich and Ashley get on the same 440 00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:45,210 page here because if they don't, I could come back to a home with two cats who 441 00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:48,870 were just let out the back door or, worse yet, dead. And that's something 442 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:49,870 entirely preventable. 443 00:24:52,450 --> 00:24:54,810 Are you okay, kitty? 444 00:24:59,210 --> 00:25:03,310 So I'm here for my second visit with Mike and Nora and their three cats, Good 445 00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:06,990 Kitty, Tiny Dancer, and Sleeve. Last time I was here, there were definitely 446 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:10,990 problems between the three cats, but what I'm worried about, homework -wise, 447 00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:14,350 the contract negotiations between the couple, because if I said it once, I've 448 00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:17,410 said it a thousand times, it begins and it ends with the humans. 449 00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:21,930 Hello! Welcome back! 450 00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:22,889 How you guys been? 451 00:25:22,890 --> 00:25:23,549 Oh, great. 452 00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:25,870 Nora, you just look really happy. 453 00:25:27,010 --> 00:25:28,470 Beautiful. Look at the highway. 454 00:25:29,050 --> 00:25:30,150 He's so happy. 455 00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:31,610 That is amazing. 456 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:35,990 As soon as I walk in, I see Good Kitty sitting on her superhighway, looking 457 00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:37,530 comfortable, and that's a good sign. 458 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:42,030 I also see a cat contract, and I can't wait to get into the details of that 459 00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:42,849 Mike and Nora. 460 00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:44,970 Let's take a look at the cat contract from hell. 461 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:47,170 8 a .m., play with cats breakfast. 462 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,360 6 o 'clock, play with cats, dinner, all three cats coexist. 463 00:25:50,740 --> 00:25:54,300 Okay. 9 o 'clock, play with cats, snack time. Good kitty gets back in the house, 464 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,700 boys get in front of the house. Great. So that's our rhythm. 465 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,320 I'm hoping that since the last time I was here, there haven't been any fights. 466 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,860 Has there been any fights? Yeah, it still happens. But when we're around to 467 00:26:03,860 --> 00:26:06,940 break them up, to distract them with a toy, it's okay. 468 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280 1 to 10, how severe were the fights? 469 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,820 It's the same. It's just happening less frequently. But she's not standing up 470 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:15,540 for herself. Okay. So that's a big deal. 471 00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:20,060 So I'm hearing the good kitty is not the mojito cat that I want her to be. I'm 472 00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:23,880 hoping to see why we're not further along here. So let's take a quick look 473 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,900 where you guys have been with your homework. 474 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,680 We're site swapping. The boys are now closed in our bedroom and the kitty is 475 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,820 out. We're trying to lure her through the doorways to work on building her 476 00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:38,340 confidence. Scary door. 477 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,900 Looking for the boys. 478 00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:41,420 Come on, kitty. 479 00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:42,780 Yeah, yeah. 480 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400 They're not here, Kitty. They're not here. 481 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,120 I'm going to stop right here just so I get a lay of the land. For Good Kitty, 482 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,960 this is still like, it's a little weird, yeah. 483 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,860 So clearly, real bad stuff seems to happen right here. Good Kitty is a 484 00:26:55,860 --> 00:27:00,880 wallflower. She literally hugs the wall. If she is forced into the middle of the 485 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,160 room, she loses all confidence, tail down, ears down. She runs to the next 486 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,500 place. We can't have that. I want to see ownership, not wallflower. 487 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:13,420 This is the longest time she's ever spent out in this room. 488 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,460 True. Well, this sucks because this is the usual stalking all over again. 489 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:26,140 Come on, Tiny. We have this going on, and we have that going on, and that's 490 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:27,140 called ambush. 491 00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:32,420 We still have a lot of work to do with Good Kitty. It's not about the boys as 492 00:27:32,420 --> 00:27:34,080 much. It's about her. 493 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,200 If Good Kitty is ever going to be a confident cat who claims territory for 494 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,940 herself and refuses to be bullied, she's going to have to learn to stand up to 495 00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:42,960 sleep in Tiny Dancer. 496 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,900 The boys are in here. 497 00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:47,000 Hello, my boys. 498 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:48,220 Hi. 499 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,320 What I would like to do is bring Good Kitty in here with these guys. 500 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,860 And I just want to see what her reaction is. Do we have food in here? Yeah. We 501 00:27:57,860 --> 00:28:00,600 do. What I want to do then is go through a routine. 502 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,700 Best case scenario, I got three cats eating in the same room, not paying 503 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,120 close attention to one another. 504 00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:10,860 Worst case scenario, they pay really close attention to each other, and I got 505 00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:14,380 break up a serious cat fight. So she's going to take it in. She's going to take 506 00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:18,100 in the world. She knows the two boys are here. Now let's go right in to a little 507 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:19,100 bit of food. 508 00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:20,180 You want some food? 509 00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:21,900 I left you some food. 510 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840 If he would eat, that would make me very happy. 511 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,280 Do you not see a sleeve there, kitty? 512 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000 Good kitty's making a beeline to the window. 513 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,020 There's a good chance the sleeve turns around and just absolutely destroys her. 514 00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100 Are you going to eat? 515 00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:40,380 Hold on. 516 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,920 We're breathing. 517 00:28:46,940 --> 00:28:50,060 Are you kidding me right now? 518 00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:55,950 Our wallflower not just walked down the middle of the bed, not just settled on a 519 00:28:55,950 --> 00:29:00,350 nightstand behind, she just smacked him upside the head. 520 00:29:01,230 --> 00:29:02,990 This is a good thing. 521 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:04,590 Hey, babe. 522 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:05,910 What's that? 523 00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:07,510 What is that? 524 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:09,130 Hey, girlfriend, you made your point. 525 00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:11,750 You made your point. I am... 526 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,080 so impressed with her right now because there's a certain degree of his fear. 527 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,360 She picks up on it like that. She's in charge right now because of his body 528 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,280 language. If these boys had been the ones to initiate this, checkmate. 529 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:28,280 See where she's looking right now? 530 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:30,620 She's making sure it's not checkmate. It's check. 531 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,400 Now, she's going to jump. 532 00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:34,740 You want to come this way? 533 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440 We're seeing the body language turn back into wallflower. 534 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,300 I don't want to trap her in here one minute longer than she has to be, so go 535 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:46,219 ahead and let her out. 536 00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:48,420 Good Kitty made her point. 537 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,840 It's not about stopping the aggressive cat from attacking. 538 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:56,240 It's about the wallflower standing up to prevent the attack. To help her get all 539 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,460 the way there, we have to make her comfortable in the middle of the room. 540 00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:03,900 just reestablished a new challenge line. Now Mike and Nora have to grab that 541 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,320 line for all it's worth and take us to the finish line. 542 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,280 Good Kitty wants to be... 543 00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:11,870 feeling like she's always covered. So I want you to get one of those cat play 544 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:16,270 tunnels. It's a fabric tunnel that can go right in that doorway. As you're 545 00:30:16,270 --> 00:30:20,510 playing, you take the toy, you lead it through the tunnel back and forth, 546 00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:23,950 her a sense of security in the middle of the room. And when she feels more 547 00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:25,390 comfortable, she won't need the tunnel anymore. 548 00:30:26,110 --> 00:30:27,570 Next thing, the feeding exercise. 549 00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:32,690 Feeding time will happen here for all three cats. She's got to be able to walk 550 00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:36,310 through, tail held high, not dashing for the corners. 551 00:30:36,860 --> 00:30:40,540 She owns the middle of the floor, so we want more stuff happening in the middle 552 00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:42,500 of the floor. Okay. Cool? All right, guys. 553 00:30:42,860 --> 00:30:46,500 Okay, I'm out. Thank you. Keep it up. Thank you so much. All right, good to 554 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,320 you. Good to see you, buddy. All right, buddy. 555 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,320 I'll see you guys soon, all right? See you later. 556 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:51,880 Okay, good work. 557 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,080 Solid progress, but still unfinished business, because I got to tell you, if 558 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,840 come back here next time and there's fights of any shape or size, then the 559 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,260 wallflower will never die, and that would be a tragedy. 560 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,870 Tiki. You're best then. 561 00:31:07,450 --> 00:31:08,450 You. 562 00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:17,450 I'm here for my final visit with Rich and Ashley and their two cats, Tiki and 563 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,750 Marley, who have Pika. Now, I needed these guys to get on the same page, 564 00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:24,070 surrender and accept the fact that Pika is here to stay. 565 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:25,310 Hopefully, so are the cats. 566 00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:30,270 Hello. How are you? I'm good. How have you been? Good, good. 567 00:31:30,510 --> 00:31:32,250 Good to see you, brother. Good to see you. Everything's good. 568 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,420 All right. Well, then we're going to get right to it. I want to take a look at 569 00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:36,159 your homework. 570 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,640 Okay. And see what you guys have been up to. 571 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,060 So we are going to peek -a -proof the upstairs. 572 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,060 Just by closing doors, there's a blanket. 573 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,960 So we'll go ahead and put the blanket inside the ottoman. 574 00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:50,140 And then that way the cats can't get it. 575 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:54,320 Do you now see it in that light? I mean, have you gotten yourself acclimated to 576 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,720 the point where now when you're looking around, it's an instant like, oh, boy. 577 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,920 Yeah. You know? 578 00:31:57,980 --> 00:32:01,540 Watching the video homework, I'm seeing a couple committed to the pika proofing, 579 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:04,160 and every day they're going around here. They're trying to figure out what they 580 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520 might have left around, how to just get it out of the way proactively. 581 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,560 Everything that I ask them to do, they're doing. 582 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,540 Okay, so we are fixing the cat tower here. We're hot glue gunning the loose 583 00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:22,180 materials back onto the tower so cats don't eat them. It's wonderful, new 584 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:23,240 toys arrived. 585 00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:25,740 I really hope that they don't eat. 586 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:31,040 These little strings on there, but it'll be a test to see if they eat them. 587 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,580 You know what? Let's go backwards here for a second. 588 00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:39,760 This, on a toy, is dessert. So just cut off stuff like this that comes with 589 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,400 them. Today we went out and bought some fresh catnip. And some fresh wheatgrass. 590 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:51,940 And my only concern with this is... Wow, they like it. ...that putting this into 591 00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:57,040 the house, they'll start eating every plant that I have. 592 00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:00,700 Your concern's a good one. But pica -proofing your plants is actually really 593 00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,700 simple. I mean, there are products that you can get. They get on it, and it's 594 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:05,439 kind of sticky. 595 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,940 They'll go to something better. If you have these sitting next to your potted 596 00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:11,800 plants, you're saying no by putting a little bit of sticky... 597 00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:16,950 or something of an aversive smell. But there is a chewable thing for them. No, 598 00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:22,790 yes. But watching the cats eat that grass, they're not just, you know, oh, 599 00:33:22,790 --> 00:33:26,650 is really good. They're in that OCD kind of, which is amazing. 600 00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:32,190 When you discover things that pika cats will gravitate towards, you grab that 601 00:33:32,190 --> 00:33:34,710 and shake it, man, because that's going to save you guys. 602 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:37,210 So are you seeing less chewing all the way around? Yes. 603 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:39,730 What turned you around? 604 00:33:40,090 --> 00:33:41,210 Now I know it's on us. 605 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,340 We left it out. Not on purpose, obviously, but it was on us. Whereas 606 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:48,960 would just be like, that's it. 607 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,580 I can't believe it. Open the door. 608 00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:55,220 Yeah, I can't believe they ate something else. And Rich helping me out and 609 00:33:55,220 --> 00:34:00,280 picking up things and just me asking for the help is a big thing. That's a big 610 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,199 deal, isn't it? 611 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,620 This process is a little bit harder than I thought it was going to be, but we 612 00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:11,320 love Kiki and Marley so much. They're, you know, our family. And since doing 613 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,040 homework that Jackson assigned to us, we're slowly starting to see a 614 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:18,860 I think it definitely changed the cat's habits in a good way. 615 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,400 I mean, really, everything that you guys are doing is great. And it seems like 616 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,219 we have really gotten over a huge hump here. 617 00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:29,400 So, plain and simple. 618 00:34:29,899 --> 00:34:33,080 You guys on the same page at this point. We know Pike is here to stay, yeah? 619 00:34:33,659 --> 00:34:34,659 Yes. 620 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,960 Second question. 621 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,360 Are the cats here to stay? Cats are here to stay. Okay, we are on the same page. 622 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,100 Look at that smile, man. Okay. 623 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:44,500 That smile does not lie. That makes me happy. 624 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,739 Rich and Ashley accomplished every single thing that I wanted them to 625 00:34:47,739 --> 00:34:51,460 accomplish, not just the physical acts of pica -proofing and making sure 626 00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:55,139 nothing left for the cats to chew. That's not really what it's all about. 627 00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:59,420 it's all about is understanding, accepting, doing what you've got to do 628 00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:03,140 proactively and acting like a team. That's the stuff I wanted these guys to 629 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,200 and they did beautifully. 630 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:09,460 Clearly, you guys are complete. completely different than the guys I met 631 00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:14,140 So many times we come in for final visits and it's all about how much the 632 00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:16,960 change. And this time around, we know it's not going to change to a large 633 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,360 degree. We know that this is something they can't control. 634 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,420 You guys have learned how to manage Pika. This boy here is going to be safe 635 00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:25,420 the end of all this. 636 00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:28,800 What all of us care about. Absolutely. I know that. So I'm going to leave you. 637 00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:32,900 You have fun with toys. You have fun with treats. And please don't have fun 638 00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:38,540 pillows and strings and stuff, okay? I learned to not get so angry at the cats 639 00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:43,740 because there's more things in life to worry about than a sock being eaten. The 640 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:44,740 cats are here to stay. 641 00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:49,680 You guys, you've done amazing work here. Thank you. On the same page. Thank you 642 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,300 very much. Take care. Bye -bye. 643 00:35:51,740 --> 00:35:55,820 It doesn't always work out that way, but for this family, there's hope with 644 00:35:55,820 --> 00:36:00,120 Pika. And that means that these cats are safe and they're here to stay. And 645 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,120 that's what I care about. 646 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,720 I have put her food in the tunnel. Here comes the growl. You know, I can hear 647 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,440 the panic. No, no, no. 648 00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,300 Tiny Dancer still sees good kitties at Target. 649 00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:29,200 Today I'm in Lakeside, California to meet up with Carolyn and her inspiring 650 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,080 Sophia. You know, suffering can manifest in so many different ways, both 651 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,100 emotionally and physically. 652 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,520 But when two souls come together and they say, you complete me, in this case 653 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,400 .S. Army veteran and her cat, then stories can have happy endings. And I 654 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,400 wait to see this one. 655 00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:46,440 Carolyn. Hi, Jackson. How are you? Hi. 656 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,280 Good to meet you. Good to meet you, too. 657 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:55,100 I'm Carolyn, and I am a U .S. Army veteran. I deployed to Iraq in 2004. 658 00:36:55,340 --> 00:37:00,480 So April 15th of 2005, just before we were about to leave, we had a pretty 659 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,480 roadside bombing. 660 00:37:01,870 --> 00:37:06,810 I actually had suffered a fracture in my lower spine and a flip in my spine and 661 00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:10,990 a herniation in my spine. Oh, boy. When you talk about dark days, that's pretty 662 00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:12,590 much the epitome of dark. 663 00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:18,910 I fell into really deep depression, and I had such bad PTSD. And, you know, 664 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:24,790 chronic pain just changes your personality, right? It makes you, nobody 665 00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:27,930 you because you don't even like you, right, because you're so upset. 666 00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:35,150 It just got to the point where it was done. 667 00:37:37,570 --> 00:37:41,370 You know, we talk about the 22 a day, which is the suicide rate in the veteran 668 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:44,550 community. And suicide is never the answer. 669 00:37:45,870 --> 00:37:48,770 But you get there because you're so exhausted. 670 00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:54,050 So I reached out for help, and the help kind of found itself in an animal 671 00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:56,310 shelter here in San Diego. And that's where I met Sophia. 672 00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:59,310 This is Sophia. This is the famous Sophia. 673 00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:00,269 This is. 674 00:38:00,270 --> 00:38:01,270 Hey, babe. 675 00:38:01,930 --> 00:38:03,100 Hi. baby. 676 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:07,300 So when I went in to adopt her, they're like, okay, just so you know, you know, 677 00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:08,300 there's kind of a problem. 678 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,660 She's an amputee. Wow. She was found with her umbilical cord wrapped around 679 00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:17,240 paw. And so she went through an amputation. She was a couple weeks old. 680 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,820 like, well, that's not a problem. I have friends that are amputees. Like, what's 681 00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:20,709 the big deal? 682 00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:25,810 Life is full of defining moments waiting to be discovered. For years, Carolyn 683 00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:30,270 couldn't find those moments because she was living in darkness. When she opened 684 00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:32,910 herself up, made herself vulnerable, there was Sophia. 685 00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:35,810 That was a defining moment. The two of them belong together. 686 00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:39,310 What I didn't know, and I learned a little bit later, is that cats do 687 00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:43,810 that dogs don't do. So when they purr and they're sitting on your skin, they 688 00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:48,030 release oxytocin. And so this natural feel -good chemical is something that... 689 00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:52,830 I could feel, and that's exactly what I needed. Sophia is a cat from heaven 690 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,410 because she took a veteran out of hell. 691 00:38:55,930 --> 00:39:00,970 One of the things that's just so remarkable is that feeling of just 692 00:39:00,970 --> 00:39:04,430 love. And I think for someone who's suffering, and whatever they're 693 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:06,970 from, even if it's temporary, it's a cure. 694 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:08,170 Yeah. 695 00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,890 Clearly, there's a lot of inspiration to go around with this story. 696 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,930 Carolyn was suffering so badly before she met Sophia. 697 00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:20,190 There was that one missing component, and that one missing component in her 698 00:39:20,190 --> 00:39:21,190 had three paws. 699 00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:25,550 She's a wonderful cat. She really is. And you are a wonderful cat guardian. 700 00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:26,810 Oh, thank you. 701 00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:31,790 Let me know how the journey progresses, okay? I'd love to. All right, take care, 702 00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:32,850 Carolyn. Bye. 703 00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:37,200 And I'll tell you what, an inspiring, amazing story. 704 00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:41,240 Carolyn and Sophia, they get the Cat Daddy Medal of Honor for strength, 705 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:45,200 perseverance, and, of course, grace. And Sophia, she's not just a cat from 706 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,200 heaven, man. 707 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000 She's a soldier of love. 708 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:54,040 Are you okay, kitty? 709 00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:58,910 I'm here for my third and final visit with Mike and Nora and their cat, Good 710 00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:01,850 Kitty. Last time I was here, we actually got some great work done. 711 00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:06,010 But these guys have still got to become a unified front. I've got to make sure 712 00:40:06,010 --> 00:40:10,050 there have been no smackdowns in this house. I want to see harmony prevail for 713 00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:11,510 sure. Hey, Jackson. 714 00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:14,950 How are you, man? Good to see you. I'm good. Great, actually. 715 00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:16,470 Oh, good. 716 00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:20,310 That I like. How are you? It's working. I don't even get a word out of my mouth 717 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:21,310 and it's working. 718 00:40:21,490 --> 00:40:27,810 Hello, my baby. Come say hi to me. Come say hi to me, Miss Mojito Loveliness. 719 00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,310 So I'm validating. I've never seen her here. Now, this is everything I ever 720 00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:36,770 wanted to see. We got good kitty walking out the middle of the room looking at 721 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:40,610 Tiny Dancer, but not in that worried way. She's just like, there's another 722 00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:43,510 Let's get to it. I can't wait to watch her stuff here. 723 00:40:43,770 --> 00:40:47,530 We are working with the tunnel to get her to come to the center of the room. 724 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,820 That's cool. She gets hyped. 725 00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:52,460 Good girl. 726 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:57,420 Go back to the middle of the living room. Come on. And there she is in the 727 00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:58,420 middle of the room. 728 00:40:58,900 --> 00:40:59,900 Good girl. 729 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,700 And look at that. Ba -boom. 730 00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:06,100 Dinner in the living room for good kitty. 731 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,120 Beautiful. Beautiful position. 732 00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:14,020 I'm letting her start dinner, and then I will release the terrors from the 733 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:15,020 bedroom. 734 00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:25,260 Okay, okay. 735 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,620 Here come the growls. No, no, no. 736 00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:32,920 I just closed Tiny Dancer's sleeve in a bedroom. 737 00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:38,640 I have put her food in the tunnel to see if she'll eat. 738 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:43,600 Okay, so let's talk about that moment for a second. You know, I can hear the 739 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,620 panic in your voice. 740 00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:48,470 We can let some of this stuff happen. What these guys have to be able to keep 741 00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:51,850 mind at all times is potential conflict may lead to potential reward. 742 00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:57,770 The last time I was here, Sleeve got knocked down a peg, and Good Kitty found 743 00:41:57,770 --> 00:41:58,890 herself a little bit with him. 744 00:41:59,450 --> 00:42:02,690 What I'm seeing in the video homework is that Sleeve is hanging back. He's 745 00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:07,690 watching the action. What I'm also seeing is that Tiny Dancer still sees 746 00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:11,710 Kitty as a target, and that I want to work through today. Before I leave, I've 747 00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:14,550 got to see these two cats hanging out in the same space. I've got to make sure 748 00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:17,490 that it's not always going to lead to mayhem. 749 00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:22,290 Now, look, we've got Good Kitty up on the shelves, and Tiny Dancer is on the 750 00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:26,430 move. Tiny Dancer still sees her as his favorite toy, and I've got to make sure 751 00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:28,210 that he also learns a lesson here. 752 00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:31,090 Fears back. 753 00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:32,290 She's fearful. 754 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:34,490 Okay, and? 755 00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:40,530 Okay, so now I'm not entirely sure I want to let this happen, but I'm going 756 00:42:40,530 --> 00:42:41,530 let it happen. 757 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:47,750 And there we go. 758 00:42:48,490 --> 00:42:50,270 That's not bad right there. 759 00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:52,310 Congratulations, girlfriend. 760 00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:57,050 For me, witnessing this moment feels a deal around here. 761 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,960 Good Kitty just gave Tiny Dancer the no. I'm not your toy anymore. 762 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,020 And Tiny Dancer got that message loud and clear. This wallflower has become a 763 00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:06,899 mojito cat. 764 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,980 I know that you've made a lot of hard choices. 765 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:15,960 And you being that unified front is the reason why it's working out. Keep doing 766 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,819 what you're doing. 767 00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:21,640 Thank you. Great stuff, man. Great stuff. Thanks, Jack. Of course. You did 768 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,880 amazing work. Thank you so much. 769 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:24,300 My pleasure. 770 00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:25,560 My pleasure. You guys, please. 771 00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:27,220 Keep it up, okay? 772 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,940 All right. Take care. 773 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,180 Man, now that feels good. I mean, the wallflower disappears. 774 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,920 The mojito cat emerges. 775 00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:40,740 Mike and Nora are a unified front. But, hey, at the end of all this, it's about 776 00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:44,980 good kitty. Her courage changed everything in here, and I am proud of 68136

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