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The three cats that we have are Good
Kitty, Flea, and Tiny Dancer.
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The boys are kind of a little dang.
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Good Kitty is afraid to eat. She doesn't
want to use her litter box. She's
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living in fear.
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I don't know what to do. I'm really
frustrated.
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Sorry, Good Kitty. We're going to try to
get you some help.
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We have two cats. Their names are Tiki
and Marley. When we took them home, they
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started suckling our blankets right
away, and that turned into a bad habit.
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Tiki, no.
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When I see something that they have
eaten, I just see dollar signs.
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I am so frustrated with this problem. It
just boils my blood. I just get to the
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point where I just want to lash out.
Tiki, no.
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No. I just feel hopeless.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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Oh my God, I love my job.
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The animal behaviors that guardians call
when they're dealing with a difficult
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cat.
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That really ups the stakes a little bit
here.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that
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my help. Thank you.
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I'm Nora.
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And I'm Mike.
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We're both drummers, and we met in 2004
on the Vans Warped Tour.
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Started dating and got engaged and
almost married five years ago.
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The three cats that we have are Good
Kitty, Sleeve, and Tiny Dancer. When we
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went to meet Good Kitty, I immediately
started crying when I saw her because it
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was just really emotional.
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She reminded me so much of my dad, Cat
Tootsie. And I didn't want to feel like
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was trying to replace Tootsie, but at
the same time I...
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Didn't want her to go to the shelter.
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Are you a good kitty?
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Then we've got two others.
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Sleeve, who's the big bully.
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And then Tiny Dancer, who's more of the
silent stalker type. He creeps up on
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Good Kitty.
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And then when she bolts, he goes after
her.
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The boys are kind of a little gang.
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They see Good Kitty, and they scare her.
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She's afraid to eat. She doesn't want to
use her litter box, and she wants to go
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outside because she knows the boys don't
go outside.
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She's living in fear.
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Who's out there?
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Mike's approach to solving the cat
problem is isolating Good Kitty in the
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bedroom, and she's closed in one room
all day long, and I don't think that's
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fair. I'm the police here in the house,
and she just wants them to be together,
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and her style is, oh, no, they'll figure
it out, and they haven't figured it
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out. I don't know what to do. I'm really
frustrated.
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Try his way. Try my way.
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Nothing.
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Sorry, good kitty. We're going to try to
get you some help.
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I'm in Burbank heading to meet up with
guardians Mike and Nora.
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They've adopted three cats, good kitty,
tiny dancer, and sleeve.
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From what I've heard, tiny dancer and
sleeve.
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have been ganging up pretty mercilessly
on Good Kitty, who's having a pretty
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rough time being the odd cat out.
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Now, hopefully, I can get in there and
get these cats and this couple living a
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little more harmoniously. Doesn't sound
like it's going to be easy.
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Hey, Jack.
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Hey, I'm Mike. Hey, Mike. How are you?
Good to meet you guys.
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Good Kitty's right here.
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Hi, my little love.
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She's the one who gets bullied by the
two boys.
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How long has that been going on?
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Over a year. Over a year, yeah. Sweet.
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Had them the whole time. Are the boys
neutered? Yeah.
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Are you getting bullied by the big boy?
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Meeting good kitty, I can tell you right
off the bat, she's not scared of me,
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but she's suspicious.
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She's very tight in her physicality.
She's scared of something else.
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What was her story? She came in before
the other guy? Yes. When we had lost our
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cat, I wanted Nora to get on with let's
get another cat.
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So we got her and we took her and she
was great.
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And then...
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Why stop there?
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A month later, we adopted the boys, and
there was no introduction process.
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Just, hello, here they are.
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Work it out.
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No. The boys just chased good kitty into
the open pantry.
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Are you okay, kitty?
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Before we go any further, can we explore
the house? I want to follow the path of
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destruction. Well, it starts in the
bedroom. Let's go to the bedroom. Let's
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So here is... Good kitty's set up.
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She has her own litter box, scratching
post, food and water.
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Is there ever a time when all three cats
are in this space? Oh, yeah. This is
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when I'm on tour, though.
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Wait, so what's the difference between
when you're not on tour? I don't let it
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happen. I'm keeping separated.
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I'm keeping separated. What's that room
right there? That's where they are right
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now. What would happen if that door were
open?
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Oh, they'd come out. The only way to
challenge and assess Good Kitty is for
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other not -so -good kitties to be let
loose. Right now, both Sleeve and Tiny
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Dancer are locked away in the guest
room. I want to see the other two cats
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and I want to see them interacting with
Good Kitty.
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Hello, one cat. Who's the orange one?
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The orange one is Tiny Dancer.
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And there we go. Okay, so cool. We got
him on the move.
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So what is Tiny looking for right now?
Tiny's looking for Good Kitty. I would
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imagine that she's in a constant state
of fight or flight, but really just
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fight. She's always looking over her
shoulder.
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Is it safe to say that Good Kitty is
always that cat unless they're locked up
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she's outside?
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Yeah. See, that sucks.
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It's hard for me to follow his rule of
not letting her out.
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Because... I see how happy she is. Yeah.
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I'm happy to let her out, too, but I sit
there and watch her.
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It's just, you've got to keep your eye
on her. From listening to Mike and Nora,
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I understand why nothing is getting any
better in this house. These guys are a
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total stalemate when it comes to how to
take care of these cats.
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In your shoes, you never get any kind of
stability because you come off the
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road. You're trying to now.
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get a way of operating here that hasn't
been happening at all. And the second
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you leave, that's gone. And now you're
coming back and you do it again.
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We've got to find a middle ground.
Exactly.
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Look at how he's going back. That's his
window he normally looks out.
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See, now he's looking for her.
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Again, I haven't seen Sleeve yet.
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You go at the head of the hallway there.
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When you turn the tables on a bully,
they usually turn tail, and that's
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happening with Sleeve right now. He's
under the bed somewhere.
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I've got to get these cats as close
together as possible, because in order
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me to come up with solutions, I've got
to see what the problem looks like for a
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pen.
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Hello, little boy.
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Okay, let's see what happens when you
let him go.
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Let's see.
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I feel that Tiny's learning his bad
manners from Sleeve. Oh, there she is.
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Just follow, please. Everybody just, I
just want to see.
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Okay, so little good kitty is now in
here hiding behind dad's cloak, as
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it were. So she's safe because she's
with you. Good kitty acts her part as a
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squeaky toy, as the most fun thing to
chase in this house.
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Good kitty was taking her place as a
mojito cat, walking around like she owns
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the place. Believe me, these other two
cats will back off because the payoff is
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just not there.
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All right, the toy trick.
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Off we go with toy.
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Boop. Tiny wants in. Oh, hi, Tiny.
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Oh, wow, he's like right in, right?
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You going to jump up here?
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Okay, so that's cool.
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But you're telling me also that he's not
our main concern, right? He'll follow
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Slee's lead.
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Yeah.
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There you go, my love. Come on up. Come
on up. Come here, baby. Come here,
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please. So she is really struggling.
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She's hungry. I know she is, but I
cannot get her to get herself out into
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open to take those treats because as
soon as she makes herself available, she
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knows it's game on.
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So far, I've used toys and treats to
lure Good Kitty out of the corner, and I
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got nothing to show for it. Now, Mike
and Nora tell me that Good Kitty's a
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confident cat when she's outside because
she's away from Tiny Dancer and Sleeve.
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So, we're going to try to lure her
outside into the fence yard because I
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see the kind of cat they're talking
about. Even though it's drizzling out
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you think that she would actually come
out? Because, you know, by and large,
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cats do not like rain. I think she
might.
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Either turn around and go back in, or
God only knows where she's going to go.
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She might go for the wall and go over.
You know what I mean? I don't know. Go
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ahead. See what you can do if it's
shaking food, doing whatever.
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All I know is that good kitty's always
got one eye on outside.
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And there's all kinds of bad things
waiting for her outside this yard. So
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really dangerous situation, but one I
can totally sympathize with.
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Look at her standing there, tail down.
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Tiny's on the counter looking down.
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You might drop down on her.
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That is not a good position right now.
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Look at her standing there, tail down.
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That is not a good position right now.
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Oh, here he comes.
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She ain't coming out here, that's for
sure.
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Is she back on the chair? She's
underneath.
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Okay. The situation seems under control
for now.
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I've got to give these guys some tools
to help these cats go to bed.
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Let's start talking about the three R's.
And the three R's are...
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Routine, ritual, rhythm. Whether you're
on the road or not on the road, the day
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is going to look the same.
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First thing that's the ingredient to
this day, we're going to move to just
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times around here. Three times a day,
morning, get home from work, and right
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before you go to bed, we're going to
have this routine where the cats can
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up to their food, eat, and walk away.
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And no, no posturing, no nothing. One
other big part of the three R's is sight
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swapping. The fact is, she has to own
out here sometimes.
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No way she can be mojito if all she ever
owns is your bedroom.
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And the other guy's got to know what it
feels like to be back there.
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Okay, so you take those routines, you
turn them into rituals that happen day
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and day out, and that becomes your daily
rhythm.
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Next, I'd like to see some catification
with some shelves, especially out here
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in the living room. Good Kitty needs a
way where she can escape from Sleeve and
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Tiny Dancer and eventually become
confident in this open, shared area of
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living room. Here's your challenge. Your
challenge is, I want you to have... a
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way for her to get from the bedroom out
here without being on the ground. I want
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something in that hallway where she can
be up and out, right? So a whole hallway
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is a revolving door because right now,
again, just because of the layout of the
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house, there's no way for her to get
from A to B without, you know, the okay
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corral happening, right? That standoff.
So I want you to find a vertical way for
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her to get out of there. That leads us
to mojito training.
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So I want you to be able to use all of
these revolving doors, the catification
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that we're putting up here, the cat
superhighway, and start leading her
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the house. During play, you can use
treats because she's pretty highly food
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motivated by just leading her. The idea
is this. Let me demonstrate to you.
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So, I'm her.
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She's coming from this hallway out to
the rest of the world.
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She is used to the fact that once she
gets out in the open, she's going to get
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her ass kicked.
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So this becomes an electrified fence.
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Every time she comes here, there's going
to be that pause.
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By you leading her with a toy, by you
leading her with treats, and you're just
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telling her, come follow me, you're
trying to de -emphasize these
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fences so that your goal is, instead of
going like this, that's it. That's all I
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want. That automatically makes a mojito
cat.
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Now, the other part of the equation is
you guys.
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which every time you speak, you
demonstrate the fact that you are on
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sides of the planet when it comes to the
solution here.
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I want you to come up with these three
R's together, and I want you to write
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this down.
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I want to know what the rules of
engagement are, what every day looks
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the ritual looks like, what the rhythm
of each day looks like, so when I get
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back here, we can go over that contract
of each day and tweak it. I am giving
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Mike and Nora the ingredients.
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to a safe and happy home. And it's up to
them to take those ingredients and turn
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them into a rhythm.
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With all of this said, how are you
feeling right now? I know we can totally
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this because she obsesses on detail and
you've laid some detail out. Cool.
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Jackson gave us a lot of homework and
I'm concerned about keeping up with this
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new routine because there's a lot of
changes coming.
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But we're going to figure it out. We're
going to figure it out. All right, guys.
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I'll talk to you soon. Good to meet you
both. Thanks, Jackson. See you. Bye
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-bye.
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Poor good kitty. I mean, this girl is a
target. She's a wallflower. She's
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intimidated at all times. My job right
now is to get that cat feeling her
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mojito, and then we got a chance here.
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Hi, I'm Ashley.
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Hi, I'm Richard. We have two cats who
are brothers. Their names are Tiki and
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Marley.
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Marley?
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and we saved them from a kill shelter.
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You guys aren't supposed to be in there.
That's why the tape's on there. When we
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took them home, they were five weeks
old, and they started suckling our
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right away.
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I know.
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I know.
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We thought it was cute, you know,
because they're so small, and we were,
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watching them, like, oh, wow, look at
them, you know, that's so interesting
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so kind of... So cute.
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Get!
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And that really turned into a bad habit.
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Tiki, no.
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Don't you eat that.
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When I see something that they have
eaten, I just see dollar signs.
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You're eating it.
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You're eating the carpet.
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I think the worst thing that could
happen with the cats is they die.
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One or both of them will eat something
that they cannot pass, and we may not
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to them in time to bring them to the
vet.
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We absolutely love our cats. They're kid
-friendly, they're great with us, but
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they keep eating everything.
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It's definitely gotten worse.
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now that we have kids. Because we're
sleep deprived, we have our own stresses
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with the kids, and now the cat.
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Oh, come on.
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I am so frustrated with this problem. It
just boils my blood.
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Busted. Busted.
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Busted. You're busted.
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I just get to the point where I just
want to lash out.
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Nope. Bad.
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I just feel hopeless.
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So I'm in Las Vegas and I'm going to
meet up with Rich and Ashley. They've
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two young kids and two cats, Tiki and
Marley, who are chewing these guys out
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house and home. Tiki.
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No. And hoping I can do something about
it. Hello.
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Welcome. How are you doing? How are you,
Ashley?
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Ashley, good to meet you. I'm Rich.
What's up, Rich? Good to see you.
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Richie and Rich. And who's that?
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Tiki. And who else do we have? Marley.
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Tiki and Marley. He's upstairs.
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Hello, Mr. Tiki.
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Tiki's how old? Five years old. They're
brothers.
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Littermates. And where'd you get them
from? We saved them from a kill shelter.
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Right on, girl. And they were how old
when you got them? We think they were
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about five weeks old, maybe six.
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Yeah, we know that they were weaned too
early from their mom, and that's why we
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think that they have this issue.
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So what are they doing?
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Eating everything.
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Couch pillows.
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There we go. Oh, there.
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And this one.
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You can really see it on this one.
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So both brothers do this?
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Yeah. Is this as bad as it gets in terms
of damage?
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I would say so, yeah. I mean, this is
our duvet covers. That's a good one. Let
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me see that one. We knew that it was an
issue. I bought him a blanket, and it
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looked like Swiss cheese when you held
it up from all the holes in it. That was
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the first time you noticed anything?
That I noticed an issue. How old was he?
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just brought him home. Oh, that young.
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Okay. When I have the information that I
have cats that are chewing on things,
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Second I cross the threshold, I'm
checking out the environment.
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I'm also trying to figure out how long
the behavior is happening.
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And from what I'm hearing right now, it
started when they were very young, and
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it's continued at the same level since
they were very young.
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Babies are a whole different ball of wax
for cats.
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The movement, the sound, the crying, the
smell, everything is different for
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them. Have the cats ever been aggressive
towards the kids?
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The cats have never swatted at the kids
because they would have been.
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Gone. I'll pretend I didn't hear that
one.
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Cats are family and not furniture.
They're not something that we just look
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and we admire. They're family members,
and like all family members, they have
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their peculiarities. I got this little,
like, edge of, like, I can't keep this
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up. Are you guys getting to that point
where, you know, are you getting to the
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point? I am.
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I'm the one.
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you know, find my bedsheets completely
chewed. But then I lash out on him.
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go the cats again. There go, you know,
another pair of bedsheets, another thing
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of pillowcases, another, you know. It's
okay.
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Mommy's just getting angry at the cats.
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If you're blowing up all the time and
you can't handle all this, is it another
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case of like... For me it is because I'm
home all day with the cats and the
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kids. Ashley is right at that peak of...
These cats are almost out of here. It's
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also a matter of one more hole in a
blanket. They're gone. They're out of
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So have you guys had the discussion
about rehoming these guys? I don't want
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do it. Yeah.
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I really don't. Well, clearly we've got
to get a handle on this because you guys
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are at that place, or at least actually
you are.
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It's incredibly hard to be holding a
three -month -old and trying to make
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everything is picked up.
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Sometimes I just say, you know what, I'm
just going to leave it out, and if it
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gets eaten, it gets eaten. That's to the
point I'm at.
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What do you want me to do?
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To figure out what's the underlying
issue.
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Okay. What might throw me over the edge
is if something happens and now we're
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spending $2 ,000 to $3 ,000 at the vet
for an emergency surgery in the middle
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the night. We've already identified that
this couch is what I call a hot spot.
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What other...
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Hot spots are there in the house, or are
there?
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There are if I leave a door open. So if
I left one of my kids' doors open, they
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would go right in. And chew? And chew.
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You know, I'd really like to see these
hot spots.
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Absolutely. So let's go take a walk.
Let's go.
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Well, one of them is this little toy.
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His tail.
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No. Poor little guy's tail.
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Okay. But these toys aren't cheap.
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You know, and they're gifted to us, and
then...
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They get chewed.
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But I got to say, that ain't much.
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But on every toy, it gets to the point
where.
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Right, I get it. You know.
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And it begins and ends here. So it's not
in the Velcro.
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I think it's things that are, if it, you
know, is on its back and it's sitting
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there staring at him like, come eat me.
Come eat me. Like this kind of thing,
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right? Yeah, like, look at that. It's so
inviting.
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So inviting, right?
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And other, but here's the important
thing for me.
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Here's the important thing for me.
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No plastic.
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No plastic.
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No plastic. No fabric. Big, big, big
distinction.
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Is your toy okay?
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He's like, yeah, my tail.
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So, mine.
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We can also go upstairs. Yeah, we can go
upstairs.
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Let's go do that.
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All I'm worried about is what materials
they are and how fast I can send these
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guys to the hospital. I'm not caring
about a hole here and a hole there. I
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about these cats winding up in the
emergency room. Here's our blanket.
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Oh, that's pretty hot. Look at it. This
blanket has been destroyed.
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Look at that. Look at that bad boy.
That's a good one.
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Oh, here's Swiss cheese.
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Okay. And so everything that you're
pretty much hiding in here.
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You hide in here because of them? Yeah.
Oh, my heating blanket got it. Ooh,
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well, that's dangerous.
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This was in my bed.
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Part of my job right now is to create
perspective here, that this isn't really
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about a blanket. This isn't about
clothes.
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This is about the lives of two of your
family members that are very much
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in the balance.
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They could very easily chomp on a wire,
and that's not just a hole in a blanket.
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That's a hole in a cat.
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not to mention a huge fire hazard.
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They could very easily chomp on a wire,
and that's not
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just a hole in a blanket. That's a hole
in a cat.
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Rich and Ashley both are much more
focused on the damage to their good than
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potential danger that these cats face.
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This is interesting also to me. Look
over to this tree over here.
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So, again, we're looking at fabrics.
We're looking at, I mean, come on, this
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pretty dangerous.
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When we talk about an invitation to a
bad problem, a scytheful rope that's
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dangling loose or anything that's long
and stringy like yarn or wool or a wire,
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that's a huge problem because that's
what winds up getting wrapped around
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intestinal tracts. And, by the way,
that's something that will kill your
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I feel like I've got every bit of
information that I needed.
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Here's what we're dealing with. Tiki and
Marley have pica.
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Pica is a condition that literally is
described as the ingestion of foreign
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materials. It's not really something we
can cure.
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Unfortunately, it's one of those things
where science is pretty stumped. I just
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can't believe that it's pica. That's not
what I wanted to hear. That was just a
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bone crusher. The way it works with pica
is... They go from wool suckers to
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kittens, and then they start eating the
fabric. Then they're going to graduate
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to plastics.
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Now they're eating anything that's not
nailed down. I mean, it is a nightmare.
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And my theory is with your guys, these
guys were taken away from mom way too
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early, and this weaning becomes a full
-on ritual that reminds them of being
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little kittens. So that's why they do
this kind of thing. That's the
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okay? Now, what I'd like you to start
looking at...
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is your cats as family members.
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Because you won't be able to solve this
problem without being fully committed to
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the entire family, and that has to
include Tiki and Marley. It's about you
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getting on the same page right now,
because in order to sort of embrace the
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of this program, that's where it starts.
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So let's take a look at your house right
now. Oh, baby gates and locks on the
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cabinets. This you have on every
doorknob in your house. This is stuff
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probably say, I would rather not have
these things, but I do because I'm a
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That's what I'd like you to start
getting towards with the cats.
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If they ingest, let's say, that sisal
rope that's hanging off those cat trees,
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if they eat that, chances are you're
either in the emergency room at 3 o
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in the morning or you missed that
opportunity and they die.
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So pica -proofing. There can be nothing
that is a fabric that they've gone after
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before that is long. Another pica
-proofing thing, by the way, is your cat
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trees. We want to make sure that you
either hot glue all of those ropes or
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them off. Anything that hides wires,
electric blankets, should be kept far
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from them. These guys are not chewers
out of necessity.
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They're chewers out of opportunity.
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Next thing is we replace things that are
non -ingestible with things that are
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ingestible in the areas where the
chewing tends to occur. Dog toys are
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a really cool thing. So they can chomp
on them. They can get that chewing mojo
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going on without the fear of something
that's going to kill them. So be aware.
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Be proactive.
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There are certain dog bones that are
chewable, which is to say that if the
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chews them and ingests them, they
actually do break down. They're made of
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organic material, and they won't clog up
anything.
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Hopefully we're going to see you guys
really getting on top of this problem.
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If something was to happen to the cats,
it would be devastating.
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It's on us. It's not on them. They don't
know that they have this disease. So if
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we don't do our part, then it would be a
shame on us to not help them because
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they could die.
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It's going to be challenging.
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All right, guys. I will see you in just
a few weeks. Perfect.
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Thank you. Let's get to work. Sounds
good.
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Bye, guys.
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Bye. Thank you.
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Man, I can't tell you how important it
is that Rich and Ashley get on the same
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page here because if they don't, I could
come back to a home with two cats who
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were just let out the back door or,
worse yet, dead. And that's something
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entirely preventable.
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Are you okay, kitty?
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So I'm here for my second visit with
Mike and Nora and their three cats, Good
445
00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:06,990
Kitty, Tiny Dancer, and Sleeve. Last
time I was here, there were definitely
446
00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:10,990
problems between the three cats, but
what I'm worried about, homework -wise,
447
00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:14,350
the contract negotiations between the
couple, because if I said it once, I've
448
00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:17,410
said it a thousand times, it begins and
it ends with the humans.
449
00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:21,930
Hello! Welcome back!
450
00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:22,889
How you guys been?
451
00:25:22,890 --> 00:25:23,549
Oh, great.
452
00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:25,870
Nora, you just look really happy.
453
00:25:27,010 --> 00:25:28,470
Beautiful. Look at the highway.
454
00:25:29,050 --> 00:25:30,150
He's so happy.
455
00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:31,610
That is amazing.
456
00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:35,990
As soon as I walk in, I see Good Kitty
sitting on her superhighway, looking
457
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:37,530
comfortable, and that's a good sign.
458
00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:42,030
I also see a cat contract, and I can't
wait to get into the details of that
459
00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:42,849
Mike and Nora.
460
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:44,970
Let's take a look at the cat contract
from hell.
461
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:47,170
8 a .m., play with cats breakfast.
462
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,360
6 o 'clock, play with cats, dinner, all
three cats coexist.
463
00:25:50,740 --> 00:25:54,300
Okay. 9 o 'clock, play with cats, snack
time. Good kitty gets back in the house,
464
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,700
boys get in front of the house. Great.
So that's our rhythm.
465
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,320
I'm hoping that since the last time I
was here, there haven't been any fights.
466
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,860
Has there been any fights? Yeah, it
still happens. But when we're around to
467
00:26:03,860 --> 00:26:06,940
break them up, to distract them with a
toy, it's okay.
468
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280
1 to 10, how severe were the fights?
469
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,820
It's the same. It's just happening less
frequently. But she's not standing up
470
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:15,540
for herself. Okay. So that's a big deal.
471
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:20,060
So I'm hearing the good kitty is not the
mojito cat that I want her to be. I'm
472
00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:23,880
hoping to see why we're not further
along here. So let's take a quick look
473
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,900
where you guys have been with your
homework.
474
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,680
We're site swapping. The boys are now
closed in our bedroom and the kitty is
475
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,820
out. We're trying to lure her through
the doorways to work on building her
476
00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:38,340
confidence. Scary door.
477
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,900
Looking for the boys.
478
00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:41,420
Come on, kitty.
479
00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:42,780
Yeah, yeah.
480
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400
They're not here, Kitty. They're not
here.
481
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,120
I'm going to stop right here just so I
get a lay of the land. For Good Kitty,
482
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,960
this is still like, it's a little weird,
yeah.
483
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,860
So clearly, real bad stuff seems to
happen right here. Good Kitty is a
484
00:26:55,860 --> 00:27:00,880
wallflower. She literally hugs the wall.
If she is forced into the middle of the
485
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,160
room, she loses all confidence, tail
down, ears down. She runs to the next
486
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,500
place. We can't have that. I want to see
ownership, not wallflower.
487
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:13,420
This is the longest time she's ever
spent out in this room.
488
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,460
True. Well, this sucks because this is
the usual stalking all over again.
489
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:26,140
Come on, Tiny. We have this going on,
and we have that going on, and that's
490
00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:27,140
called ambush.
491
00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:32,420
We still have a lot of work to do with
Good Kitty. It's not about the boys as
492
00:27:32,420 --> 00:27:34,080
much. It's about her.
493
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,200
If Good Kitty is ever going to be a
confident cat who claims territory for
494
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,940
herself and refuses to be bullied, she's
going to have to learn to stand up to
495
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:42,960
sleep in Tiny Dancer.
496
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,900
The boys are in here.
497
00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:47,000
Hello, my boys.
498
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:48,220
Hi.
499
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,320
What I would like to do is bring Good
Kitty in here with these guys.
500
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,860
And I just want to see what her reaction
is. Do we have food in here? Yeah. We
501
00:27:57,860 --> 00:28:00,600
do. What I want to do then is go through
a routine.
502
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,700
Best case scenario, I got three cats
eating in the same room, not paying
503
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,120
close attention to one another.
504
00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:10,860
Worst case scenario, they pay really
close attention to each other, and I got
505
00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:14,380
break up a serious cat fight. So she's
going to take it in. She's going to take
506
00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:18,100
in the world. She knows the two boys are
here. Now let's go right in to a little
507
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:19,100
bit of food.
508
00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:20,180
You want some food?
509
00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:21,900
I left you some food.
510
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840
If he would eat, that would make me very
happy.
511
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,280
Do you not see a sleeve there, kitty?
512
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Good kitty's making a beeline to the
window.
513
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,020
There's a good chance the sleeve turns
around and just absolutely destroys her.
514
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100
Are you going to eat?
515
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:40,380
Hold on.
516
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,920
We're breathing.
517
00:28:46,940 --> 00:28:50,060
Are you kidding me right now?
518
00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:55,950
Our wallflower not just walked down the
middle of the bed, not just settled on a
519
00:28:55,950 --> 00:29:00,350
nightstand behind, she just smacked him
upside the head.
520
00:29:01,230 --> 00:29:02,990
This is a good thing.
521
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:04,590
Hey, babe.
522
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:05,910
What's that?
523
00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:07,510
What is that?
524
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:09,130
Hey, girlfriend, you made your point.
525
00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:11,750
You made your point. I am...
526
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,080
so impressed with her right now because
there's a certain degree of his fear.
527
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,360
She picks up on it like that. She's in
charge right now because of his body
528
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,280
language. If these boys had been the
ones to initiate this, checkmate.
529
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:28,280
See where she's looking right now?
530
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:30,620
She's making sure it's not checkmate.
It's check.
531
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Now, she's going to jump.
532
00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:34,740
You want to come this way?
533
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440
We're seeing the body language turn back
into wallflower.
534
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,300
I don't want to trap her in here one
minute longer than she has to be, so go
535
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:46,219
ahead and let her out.
536
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:48,420
Good Kitty made her point.
537
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,840
It's not about stopping the aggressive
cat from attacking.
538
00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:56,240
It's about the wallflower standing up to
prevent the attack. To help her get all
539
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,460
the way there, we have to make her
comfortable in the middle of the room.
540
00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:03,900
just reestablished a new challenge line.
Now Mike and Nora have to grab that
541
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,320
line for all it's worth and take us to
the finish line.
542
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,280
Good Kitty wants to be...
543
00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:11,870
feeling like she's always covered. So I
want you to get one of those cat play
544
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:16,270
tunnels. It's a fabric tunnel that can
go right in that doorway. As you're
545
00:30:16,270 --> 00:30:20,510
playing, you take the toy, you lead it
through the tunnel back and forth,
546
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:23,950
her a sense of security in the middle of
the room. And when she feels more
547
00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:25,390
comfortable, she won't need the tunnel
anymore.
548
00:30:26,110 --> 00:30:27,570
Next thing, the feeding exercise.
549
00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:32,690
Feeding time will happen here for all
three cats. She's got to be able to walk
550
00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:36,310
through, tail held high, not dashing for
the corners.
551
00:30:36,860 --> 00:30:40,540
She owns the middle of the floor, so we
want more stuff happening in the middle
552
00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:42,500
of the floor. Okay. Cool? All right,
guys.
553
00:30:42,860 --> 00:30:46,500
Okay, I'm out. Thank you. Keep it up.
Thank you so much. All right, good to
554
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,320
you. Good to see you, buddy. All right,
buddy.
555
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,320
I'll see you guys soon, all right? See
you later.
556
00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:51,880
Okay, good work.
557
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,080
Solid progress, but still unfinished
business, because I got to tell you, if
558
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,840
come back here next time and there's
fights of any shape or size, then the
559
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,260
wallflower will never die, and that
would be a tragedy.
560
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,870
Tiki. You're best then.
561
00:31:07,450 --> 00:31:08,450
You.
562
00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:17,450
I'm here for my final visit with Rich
and Ashley and their two cats, Tiki and
563
00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,750
Marley, who have Pika. Now, I needed
these guys to get on the same page,
564
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:24,070
surrender and accept the fact that Pika
is here to stay.
565
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:25,310
Hopefully, so are the cats.
566
00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:30,270
Hello. How are you? I'm good. How have
you been? Good, good.
567
00:31:30,510 --> 00:31:32,250
Good to see you, brother. Good to see
you. Everything's good.
568
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,420
All right. Well, then we're going to get
right to it. I want to take a look at
569
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:36,159
your homework.
570
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,640
Okay. And see what you guys have been up
to.
571
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,060
So we are going to peek -a -proof the
upstairs.
572
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,060
Just by closing doors, there's a
blanket.
573
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,960
So we'll go ahead and put the blanket
inside the ottoman.
574
00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:50,140
And then that way the cats can't get it.
575
00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:54,320
Do you now see it in that light? I mean,
have you gotten yourself acclimated to
576
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,720
the point where now when you're looking
around, it's an instant like, oh, boy.
577
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Yeah. You know?
578
00:31:57,980 --> 00:32:01,540
Watching the video homework, I'm seeing
a couple committed to the pika proofing,
579
00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:04,160
and every day they're going around here.
They're trying to figure out what they
580
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520
might have left around, how to just get
it out of the way proactively.
581
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Everything that I ask them to do,
they're doing.
582
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,540
Okay, so we are fixing the cat tower
here. We're hot glue gunning the loose
583
00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:22,180
materials back onto the tower so cats
don't eat them. It's wonderful, new
584
00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:23,240
toys arrived.
585
00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:25,740
I really hope that they don't eat.
586
00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:31,040
These little strings on there, but it'll
be a test to see if they eat them.
587
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,580
You know what? Let's go backwards here
for a second.
588
00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:39,760
This, on a toy, is dessert. So just cut
off stuff like this that comes with
589
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,400
them. Today we went out and bought some
fresh catnip. And some fresh wheatgrass.
590
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:51,940
And my only concern with this is... Wow,
they like it. ...that putting this into
591
00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:57,040
the house, they'll start eating every
plant that I have.
592
00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:00,700
Your concern's a good one. But pica
-proofing your plants is actually really
593
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,700
simple. I mean, there are products that
you can get. They get on it, and it's
594
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:05,439
kind of sticky.
595
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,940
They'll go to something better. If you
have these sitting next to your potted
596
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:11,800
plants, you're saying no by putting a
little bit of sticky...
597
00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:16,950
or something of an aversive smell. But
there is a chewable thing for them. No,
598
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:22,790
yes. But watching the cats eat that
grass, they're not just, you know, oh,
599
00:33:22,790 --> 00:33:26,650
is really good. They're in that OCD kind
of, which is amazing.
600
00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:32,190
When you discover things that pika cats
will gravitate towards, you grab that
601
00:33:32,190 --> 00:33:34,710
and shake it, man, because that's going
to save you guys.
602
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:37,210
So are you seeing less chewing all the
way around? Yes.
603
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:39,730
What turned you around?
604
00:33:40,090 --> 00:33:41,210
Now I know it's on us.
605
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,340
We left it out. Not on purpose,
obviously, but it was on us. Whereas
606
00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:48,960
would just be like, that's it.
607
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,580
I can't believe it. Open the door.
608
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:55,220
Yeah, I can't believe they ate something
else. And Rich helping me out and
609
00:33:55,220 --> 00:34:00,280
picking up things and just me asking for
the help is a big thing. That's a big
610
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,199
deal, isn't it?
611
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,620
This process is a little bit harder than
I thought it was going to be, but we
612
00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:11,320
love Kiki and Marley so much. They're,
you know, our family. And since doing
613
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,040
homework that Jackson assigned to us,
we're slowly starting to see a
614
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:18,860
I think it definitely changed the cat's
habits in a good way.
615
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,400
I mean, really, everything that you guys
are doing is great. And it seems like
616
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,219
we have really gotten over a huge hump
here.
617
00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:29,400
So, plain and simple.
618
00:34:29,899 --> 00:34:33,080
You guys on the same page at this point.
We know Pike is here to stay, yeah?
619
00:34:33,659 --> 00:34:34,659
Yes.
620
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Second question.
621
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,360
Are the cats here to stay? Cats are here
to stay. Okay, we are on the same page.
622
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,100
Look at that smile, man. Okay.
623
00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:44,500
That smile does not lie. That makes me
happy.
624
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,739
Rich and Ashley accomplished every
single thing that I wanted them to
625
00:34:47,739 --> 00:34:51,460
accomplish, not just the physical acts
of pica -proofing and making sure
626
00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:55,139
nothing left for the cats to chew.
That's not really what it's all about.
627
00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:59,420
it's all about is understanding,
accepting, doing what you've got to do
628
00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:03,140
proactively and acting like a team.
That's the stuff I wanted these guys to
629
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,200
and they did beautifully.
630
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:09,460
Clearly, you guys are complete.
completely different than the guys I met
631
00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:14,140
So many times we come in for final
visits and it's all about how much the
632
00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:16,960
change. And this time around, we know
it's not going to change to a large
633
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,360
degree. We know that this is something
they can't control.
634
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,420
You guys have learned how to manage
Pika. This boy here is going to be safe
635
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:25,420
the end of all this.
636
00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:28,800
What all of us care about. Absolutely. I
know that. So I'm going to leave you.
637
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:32,900
You have fun with toys. You have fun
with treats. And please don't have fun
638
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:38,540
pillows and strings and stuff, okay? I
learned to not get so angry at the cats
639
00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:43,740
because there's more things in life to
worry about than a sock being eaten. The
640
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:44,740
cats are here to stay.
641
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:49,680
You guys, you've done amazing work here.
Thank you. On the same page. Thank you
642
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,300
very much. Take care. Bye -bye.
643
00:35:51,740 --> 00:35:55,820
It doesn't always work out that way, but
for this family, there's hope with
644
00:35:55,820 --> 00:36:00,120
Pika. And that means that these cats are
safe and they're here to stay. And
645
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,120
that's what I care about.
646
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,720
I have put her food in the tunnel. Here
comes the growl. You know, I can hear
647
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,440
the panic. No, no, no.
648
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,300
Tiny Dancer still sees good kitties at
Target.
649
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:29,200
Today I'm in Lakeside, California to
meet up with Carolyn and her inspiring
650
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Sophia. You know, suffering can manifest
in so many different ways, both
651
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,100
emotionally and physically.
652
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,520
But when two souls come together and
they say, you complete me, in this case
653
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,400
.S. Army veteran and her cat, then
stories can have happy endings. And I
654
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,400
wait to see this one.
655
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:46,440
Carolyn. Hi, Jackson. How are you? Hi.
656
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,280
Good to meet you. Good to meet you, too.
657
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:55,100
I'm Carolyn, and I am a U .S. Army
veteran. I deployed to Iraq in 2004.
658
00:36:55,340 --> 00:37:00,480
So April 15th of 2005, just before we
were about to leave, we had a pretty
659
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,480
roadside bombing.
660
00:37:01,870 --> 00:37:06,810
I actually had suffered a fracture in my
lower spine and a flip in my spine and
661
00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:10,990
a herniation in my spine. Oh, boy. When
you talk about dark days, that's pretty
662
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:12,590
much the epitome of dark.
663
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:18,910
I fell into really deep depression, and
I had such bad PTSD. And, you know,
664
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:24,790
chronic pain just changes your
personality, right? It makes you, nobody
665
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:27,930
you because you don't even like you,
right, because you're so upset.
666
00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:35,150
It just got to the point where it was
done.
667
00:37:37,570 --> 00:37:41,370
You know, we talk about the 22 a day,
which is the suicide rate in the veteran
668
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:44,550
community. And suicide is never the
answer.
669
00:37:45,870 --> 00:37:48,770
But you get there because you're so
exhausted.
670
00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:54,050
So I reached out for help, and the help
kind of found itself in an animal
671
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:56,310
shelter here in San Diego. And that's
where I met Sophia.
672
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:59,310
This is Sophia. This is the famous
Sophia.
673
00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:00,269
This is.
674
00:38:00,270 --> 00:38:01,270
Hey, babe.
675
00:38:01,930 --> 00:38:03,100
Hi. baby.
676
00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:07,300
So when I went in to adopt her, they're
like, okay, just so you know, you know,
677
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:08,300
there's kind of a problem.
678
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,660
She's an amputee. Wow. She was found
with her umbilical cord wrapped around
679
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:17,240
paw. And so she went through an
amputation. She was a couple weeks old.
680
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,820
like, well, that's not a problem. I have
friends that are amputees. Like, what's
681
00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:20,709
the big deal?
682
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:25,810
Life is full of defining moments waiting
to be discovered. For years, Carolyn
683
00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:30,270
couldn't find those moments because she
was living in darkness. When she opened
684
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:32,910
herself up, made herself vulnerable,
there was Sophia.
685
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:35,810
That was a defining moment. The two of
them belong together.
686
00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:39,310
What I didn't know, and I learned a
little bit later, is that cats do
687
00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:43,810
that dogs don't do. So when they purr
and they're sitting on your skin, they
688
00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:48,030
release oxytocin. And so this natural
feel -good chemical is something that...
689
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:52,830
I could feel, and that's exactly what I
needed. Sophia is a cat from heaven
690
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,410
because she took a veteran out of hell.
691
00:38:55,930 --> 00:39:00,970
One of the things that's just so
remarkable is that feeling of just
692
00:39:00,970 --> 00:39:04,430
love. And I think for someone who's
suffering, and whatever they're
693
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:06,970
from, even if it's temporary, it's a
cure.
694
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:08,170
Yeah.
695
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,890
Clearly, there's a lot of inspiration to
go around with this story.
696
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,930
Carolyn was suffering so badly before
she met Sophia.
697
00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:20,190
There was that one missing component,
and that one missing component in her
698
00:39:20,190 --> 00:39:21,190
had three paws.
699
00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:25,550
She's a wonderful cat. She really is.
And you are a wonderful cat guardian.
700
00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:26,810
Oh, thank you.
701
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:31,790
Let me know how the journey progresses,
okay? I'd love to. All right, take care,
702
00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:32,850
Carolyn. Bye.
703
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:37,200
And I'll tell you what, an inspiring,
amazing story.
704
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:41,240
Carolyn and Sophia, they get the Cat
Daddy Medal of Honor for strength,
705
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:45,200
perseverance, and, of course, grace. And
Sophia, she's not just a cat from
706
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,200
heaven, man.
707
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
She's a soldier of love.
708
00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:54,040
Are you okay, kitty?
709
00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:58,910
I'm here for my third and final visit
with Mike and Nora and their cat, Good
710
00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:01,850
Kitty. Last time I was here, we actually
got some great work done.
711
00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:06,010
But these guys have still got to become
a unified front. I've got to make sure
712
00:40:06,010 --> 00:40:10,050
there have been no smackdowns in this
house. I want to see harmony prevail for
713
00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:11,510
sure. Hey, Jackson.
714
00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:14,950
How are you, man? Good to see you. I'm
good. Great, actually.
715
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:16,470
Oh, good.
716
00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:20,310
That I like. How are you? It's working.
I don't even get a word out of my mouth
717
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:21,310
and it's working.
718
00:40:21,490 --> 00:40:27,810
Hello, my baby. Come say hi to me. Come
say hi to me, Miss Mojito Loveliness.
719
00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,310
So I'm validating. I've never seen her
here. Now, this is everything I ever
720
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:36,770
wanted to see. We got good kitty walking
out the middle of the room looking at
721
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:40,610
Tiny Dancer, but not in that worried
way. She's just like, there's another
722
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:43,510
Let's get to it. I can't wait to watch
her stuff here.
723
00:40:43,770 --> 00:40:47,530
We are working with the tunnel to get
her to come to the center of the room.
724
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,820
That's cool. She gets hyped.
725
00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:52,460
Good girl.
726
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:57,420
Go back to the middle of the living
room. Come on. And there she is in the
727
00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:58,420
middle of the room.
728
00:40:58,900 --> 00:40:59,900
Good girl.
729
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,700
And look at that. Ba -boom.
730
00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:06,100
Dinner in the living room for good
kitty.
731
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,120
Beautiful. Beautiful position.
732
00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:14,020
I'm letting her start dinner, and then I
will release the terrors from the
733
00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:15,020
bedroom.
734
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:25,260
Okay, okay.
735
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,620
Here come the growls. No, no, no.
736
00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:32,920
I just closed Tiny Dancer's sleeve in a
bedroom.
737
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:38,640
I have put her food in the tunnel to see
if she'll eat.
738
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:43,600
Okay, so let's talk about that moment
for a second. You know, I can hear the
739
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,620
panic in your voice.
740
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:48,470
We can let some of this stuff happen.
What these guys have to be able to keep
741
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:51,850
mind at all times is potential conflict
may lead to potential reward.
742
00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:57,770
The last time I was here, Sleeve got
knocked down a peg, and Good Kitty found
743
00:41:57,770 --> 00:41:58,890
herself a little bit with him.
744
00:41:59,450 --> 00:42:02,690
What I'm seeing in the video homework is
that Sleeve is hanging back. He's
745
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:07,690
watching the action. What I'm also
seeing is that Tiny Dancer still sees
746
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:11,710
Kitty as a target, and that I want to
work through today. Before I leave, I've
747
00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:14,550
got to see these two cats hanging out in
the same space. I've got to make sure
748
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:17,490
that it's not always going to lead to
mayhem.
749
00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:22,290
Now, look, we've got Good Kitty up on
the shelves, and Tiny Dancer is on the
750
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:26,430
move. Tiny Dancer still sees her as his
favorite toy, and I've got to make sure
751
00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:28,210
that he also learns a lesson here.
752
00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:31,090
Fears back.
753
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:32,290
She's fearful.
754
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:34,490
Okay, and?
755
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:40,530
Okay, so now I'm not entirely sure I
want to let this happen, but I'm going
756
00:42:40,530 --> 00:42:41,530
let it happen.
757
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:47,750
And there we go.
758
00:42:48,490 --> 00:42:50,270
That's not bad right there.
759
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:52,310
Congratulations, girlfriend.
760
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:57,050
For me, witnessing this moment feels a
deal around here.
761
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,960
Good Kitty just gave Tiny Dancer the no.
I'm not your toy anymore.
762
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,020
And Tiny Dancer got that message loud
and clear. This wallflower has become a
763
00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:06,899
mojito cat.
764
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,980
I know that you've made a lot of hard
choices.
765
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:15,960
And you being that unified front is the
reason why it's working out. Keep doing
766
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,819
what you're doing.
767
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:21,640
Thank you. Great stuff, man. Great
stuff. Thanks, Jack. Of course. You did
768
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,880
amazing work. Thank you so much.
769
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:24,300
My pleasure.
770
00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:25,560
My pleasure. You guys, please.
771
00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:27,220
Keep it up, okay?
772
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,940
All right. Take care.
773
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,180
Man, now that feels good. I mean, the
wallflower disappears.
774
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,920
The mojito cat emerges.
775
00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:40,740
Mike and Nora are a unified front. But,
hey, at the end of all this, it's about
776
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:44,980
good kitty. Her courage changed
everything in here, and I am proud of
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