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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,250 --> 00:00:05,270 We have three cats, Sasha, Kona, and Jackson. 2 00:00:06,890 --> 00:00:09,810 Jackson loves people. He just hates cats. 3 00:00:13,310 --> 00:00:15,210 Jackson put both of them in the hospital. 4 00:00:15,770 --> 00:00:17,790 He almost ripped off Kona's tail. 5 00:00:18,450 --> 00:00:22,430 But I'm not willing to send the cat to the pound or rehome anybody. 6 00:00:23,810 --> 00:00:25,290 We don't have any other options. 7 00:00:26,250 --> 00:00:29,650 I have a cat named Greeny who lives inside my mom's antique store. 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,740 Greeny is peeing on the merchandise. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,920 I can't sell a poster of furniture. I can't sell couches. And he's ruined 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,300 that belongs to other people, and it's really embarrassing. 11 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:39,580 Greeny's a nightmare. 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,020 He's destructive, and he's ruining my mom's career. 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Greeny is tearing my store apart and our family. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,700 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,220 Oh, my God, I love my job. 16 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:57,000 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000 cat. 18 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:01,140 That really ups the stakes a little bit here. 19 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:06,120 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,320 my help. Thank you. 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Hi, 22 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:20,818 I'm Chris. 23 00:01:20,820 --> 00:01:25,660 And I'm Stephanie. We have three cats, Sasha, Kona, and Jackson. 24 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:28,180 Jackson is four years old. 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,300 He's such a lover. He loves people. He is so affectionate. He just hates cats. 26 00:01:35,980 --> 00:01:40,080 We adopted Jack as a play buddy for Kona and Sasha. 27 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:41,600 That didn't go very well. 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,140 Jackson almost ripped off Kona's tail. 29 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:47,840 He had to have stitches around his tail. 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,080 After the second time to our vet, she recommended that we get rid of Jack. 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,560 We have a two -story house, so we can keep Jack upstairs and the other two 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,180 downstairs just to keep them from biting. 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Because if they see each other, Jack attacks them and literally tries to, 34 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:10,539 rip their tail off. Jack gets lonely at night. He'll get at the bottom of the 35 00:02:10,539 --> 00:02:13,720 stairs and just meow and meow and meow. And he'll do it 2, 3 o 'clock in the 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,140 morning when you're trying to sleep. 37 00:02:16,540 --> 00:02:20,480 But I'm not willing to send the cats to the pound or rehome anybody. 38 00:02:20,820 --> 00:02:23,100 What do we do now? What do we do now? 39 00:02:27,359 --> 00:02:31,780 I'm heading in to go see Chris and Stephanie and their bad cat, and his 40 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:34,500 Jackson. We know if his name is Jackson, he's not a bad cat. 41 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:35,740 He's just misunderstood. 42 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:37,300 Let's go meet these guys. 43 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:43,480 I'm back where my cat career started, in Boulder, Colorado. 44 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:47,380 It's been a long time. Thank you very much. You got a Jackson. 45 00:02:47,580 --> 00:02:51,410 I have a Jackson named after you. Oh, you actually did name him after me? 46 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:52,550 Oh, that's so embarrassing. 47 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:57,570 If you had named your cat Jackson and he was like the second coming of the 48 00:02:57,570 --> 00:03:02,030 Buddha, then hey, I'm all good. But naming your hell cat Jackson? 49 00:03:02,570 --> 00:03:04,870 Embarrassed. You have Kona, Jackson, and? 50 00:03:05,230 --> 00:03:06,310 Sasha. Right, Sasha. 51 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:09,710 My God, they are like litter mates. So Sasha came first. 52 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:14,670 Sasha was here, and then we brought Kona, and then we went to the pound and 53 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:16,010 adopted Jack. 54 00:03:16,310 --> 00:03:20,190 So we brought him into the house. Did the normal training between the doors, 55 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:21,930 separate rooms. You did a normal introduction. 56 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:26,530 And then when it was time to actually sort of let him nose -to -nose, he just 57 00:03:26,530 --> 00:03:31,570 busted out of the door, went after Kona, flipped him over, and then just... 58 00:03:31,570 --> 00:03:36,390 Tried to rip his tail off. Almost ripped his tail off. Damn. So we took him back 59 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:37,390 to the pound. 60 00:03:37,740 --> 00:03:42,480 They have a camera there on all the kennels, you know, to help adopt the 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,700 I started watching that every day to see if he would get adopted. And that went 62 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:48,820 on for 60 days. 63 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:52,380 So I was really worried that they were going to put him down. 64 00:03:53,060 --> 00:03:56,320 And that 60th day actually fell on my birthday. 65 00:03:56,620 --> 00:04:00,640 And so Chris said, what do you want for your birthday? And I was like, all I 66 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,640 want is Jackson back. 67 00:04:02,190 --> 00:04:06,090 Obviously, I'm happy that the guardians took Jack back from the shelter where he 68 00:04:06,090 --> 00:04:09,030 surely would have been euthanized. But let's step back and look at this from 69 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:12,830 perspective for a minute. He spends all this time in the shelter. Then he goes 70 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:17,170 to a home that's already occupied by two other cats. It's their territory. Now 71 00:04:17,170 --> 00:04:20,890 he's sent back to the shelter. He spends a whole bunch of time there. Now he's 72 00:04:20,890 --> 00:04:21,910 back to the house again. 73 00:04:22,210 --> 00:04:26,490 You just can't be surprised that a cat with this kind of an unsettled history 74 00:04:26,490 --> 00:04:29,430 developing some serious deep -seated territorial issues. 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,720 Now, the behaviorist that we talked to told us the second time we reintroduced, 76 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,300 we should get this cat pen, put them in there, feed them, play with them, and 77 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:43,240 then they get kind of used to each other. If you take a prey animal like a 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,900 who is living by their wits in the wild, kill or be killed, you put them in an 79 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:51,760 environment that's enclosed and has no escape routes whatsoever, that's going 80 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,180 put some undue stress on that animal. 81 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:58,680 At that time, we lived in a house that really didn't have a very good setup to 82 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,980 have him separated. He was in one room. So we found this house, and the hole 83 00:05:03,980 --> 00:05:05,640 upstairs is Jack Land. 84 00:05:05,860 --> 00:05:10,340 You are not going to tell me that you moved to a new house for him. We won't 85 00:05:10,340 --> 00:05:11,340 tell you if you don't want to hear it. 86 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,780 That's a first. I have not been in this situation before where the commitment 87 00:05:16,780 --> 00:05:21,300 stretched to the point where they said, we need a better house for our cats. So 88 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:22,540 you moved into a house. 89 00:05:22,970 --> 00:05:26,630 For Jackson, now you live... I sleep upstairs. 90 00:05:27,470 --> 00:05:28,930 Chris sleeps in the guest room. 91 00:05:29,290 --> 00:05:30,370 You guys are separated? 92 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:35,030 I'm like, what's wrong with you? 93 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:39,650 What's wrong with you? Chris and Stephanie might think that they're 94 00:05:39,650 --> 00:05:43,050 from the same page and they're doing the best they can by their cats. 95 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:45,590 That's not how it works. This is the beginning. 96 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:48,610 It all goes downhill from here. We can't let that happen. 97 00:05:49,150 --> 00:05:50,550 So... I want to meet Jack. 98 00:05:52,110 --> 00:05:53,190 This is Jack Land. 99 00:05:54,050 --> 00:05:56,030 Do the other cats ever come up here? 100 00:05:56,250 --> 00:05:57,250 No. Okay. 101 00:05:57,570 --> 00:06:01,550 Him being isolated from the rest of the house, living in a smaller space like 102 00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:04,110 this, is going to take a toll on him if it hasn't already. 103 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:05,610 Hi, buddy. 104 00:06:05,630 --> 00:06:07,650 Oh, I know. 105 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:13,890 It is your favoritest thing to rub your scent all over me. Make no mistake about 106 00:06:13,890 --> 00:06:19,410 it. Even though Jackson is loving and wonderful, Jackson's actions almost 107 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:20,590 attention starved. 108 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:25,380 I can also see how the pen itself can be a little problematic, but I am actually 109 00:06:25,380 --> 00:06:27,080 going to want to see that. Where do you keep it? 110 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,840 Downstairs. Downstairs. Let's go on down. Okay. Now, as much as I hate using 111 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:34,560 pen as a training device, because he's used to it, and as a challenge line 112 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,840 exercise, I think we'll put Jack in that pen just one more time to see how he 113 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:42,260 interacts with Sasha. I really need to see these three cats in the same room at 114 00:06:42,260 --> 00:06:46,260 the same time in order to make an assessment, and at this point, using the 115 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:48,100 may be the best and safest way to do it. 116 00:06:48,410 --> 00:06:50,570 So can we get everybody gathered around? 117 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:54,870 Yeah, let's try it. All right, let's go. A challenge line exercise like this is 118 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:58,830 where I put a cat into a challenging environment to see what they can and 119 00:06:58,830 --> 00:07:02,570 handle. Now, obviously, this could be a really stressful situation for the cat, 120 00:07:02,650 --> 00:07:06,990 but it truly is necessary so that I can make a diagnosis and assess their 121 00:07:06,990 --> 00:07:07,990 progress along the way. 122 00:07:10,990 --> 00:07:15,390 So what I'm looking for is the ability for these guys to be able to eat in each 123 00:07:15,390 --> 00:07:17,170 other's presence without... 124 00:07:17,450 --> 00:07:21,990 all hell breaking loose let's bring sasha a little closer to jackson 125 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:28,810 i'm seeing jackson being pretty hyper alert you know we got 126 00:07:28,810 --> 00:07:32,990 ears pointed at her right now sasha seems more worried about jack than those 127 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:36,690 treats right in front of her i don't know kona's coming but he's also looking 128 00:07:36,690 --> 00:07:40,930 out the other way now even though jackson's got treats in there right now 129 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:41,930 not interested 130 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,680 He's much more cautious, much less himself. 131 00:07:50,940 --> 00:07:52,780 His eyes are squarely on Sasha. 132 00:07:53,060 --> 00:07:55,340 Let's see what Jack does when Sasha gets closer. 133 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,640 He 134 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:10,620 is 135 00:08:10,620 --> 00:08:16,620 not the same cat in this pen as he is upstairs. That is for sure. My diagnosis 136 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:17,620 of Jackson. 137 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,860 He's territorially aggressive. 138 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:23,560 He feels like he doesn't own anything. He's what I call a Napoleon cat. I don't 139 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,180 own this? Well, you're damn sure not going to own it either. I'm going to 140 00:08:26,180 --> 00:08:28,720 it from you because I am insecure about my ownership. 141 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,820 Another thing I take away from the exercise in the pen is that although 142 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:37,220 has attacked Kona in the past, the real trouble here now is between Jack and 143 00:08:37,220 --> 00:08:41,760 Sasha. I mean, I know this whole thing has been pretty hard on you guys. You 144 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,420 know, all the grief I gave you before about where you're sleeping and 145 00:08:44,420 --> 00:08:46,900 everything, that's first and foremost what I want. 146 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:51,780 to nip in the bud. Just remember that you're a couple first and cat guardian 147 00:08:51,780 --> 00:08:56,140 second, because if you are not taking care of each other, you can't take care 148 00:08:56,140 --> 00:08:56,599 the cat. 149 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:02,860 So that begins with our first piece of homework, which is, you know, at least 150 00:09:02,860 --> 00:09:07,460 -weekly slumber parties. Please start breaking that wall down again. You know, 151 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,700 Jackson will be okay. Anything that requires you guys to make a sacrifice to 152 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:13,480 that degree is doomed. 153 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,720 The pen's gone. 154 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:15,740 No more pens. 155 00:09:17,130 --> 00:09:19,930 What we're going to replace it with is site swapping. 156 00:09:20,170 --> 00:09:25,310 So at least once a day, he comes down and they go up, okay? And the other 157 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:26,670 is, that's his base camp. 158 00:09:26,910 --> 00:09:31,030 The way that we can expand base camp is to take things in there that his scent 159 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:35,230 is seriously soaked into and start exploding it out to the rest of the 160 00:09:35,350 --> 00:09:37,630 We're making it so the whole house smells like everybody. 161 00:09:37,870 --> 00:09:40,490 And that's how cats first and foremost define ownership. 162 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:44,330 We're also going to do a reintroduction. Once there's visual stimulus and they 163 00:09:44,330 --> 00:09:46,170 can see each other, bad things always happen. 164 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,060 What I'd like you to do is use this screen door. Every time these guys prove 165 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:54,780 that they can eat on either side of the door without the hissing, the 166 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:59,020 scratching, the charging the door, whatever, just eat, walk away, move on. 167 00:09:59,020 --> 00:10:02,640 we're reintroducing, we're exploding base camp, we're giving everybody a 168 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,720 of ownership all at the same time, and that is going to get us going in the 169 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,420 right direction here. You could buy a bigger house. Hell, you can give each 170 00:10:10,420 --> 00:10:14,160 a separate floor of that house, but that's just a temporary solution to a 171 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,770 problem. Jackson's behavior is a reflection of the continued segregation 172 00:10:18,770 --> 00:10:22,450 house and his history of territorial instability, which has led to his 173 00:10:22,450 --> 00:10:24,990 insecurity and his lashing out at the other cats. 174 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:27,710 Oh, thank you so much for coming. It has been my pleasure. 175 00:10:36,790 --> 00:10:40,270 Hi, I'm Julie. I own Street Fair Antiques. I'm Melissa. 176 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:41,750 And I'm Emily. 177 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:49,160 I have a cat named Greeny who lives inside my mom's antique store, and he is 178 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,280 best part of our family. 179 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:57,740 Owning an antique store is hard work, especially when my daughter's cat is 180 00:10:57,740 --> 00:10:58,740 peeing on the furniture. 181 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Greeny is peeing on the merchandise. 182 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,860 I can't sell rugs. I can't sell poster furniture. 183 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,820 I can't sell couches. I have a lot of items on consignment in here that don't 184 00:11:12,820 --> 00:11:15,680 belong to me. And he's ruined stuff that belongs to other people. 185 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:20,980 I try and cover up the smells. I try and get rid of areas where he's peed. I've 186 00:11:20,980 --> 00:11:22,040 had the carpets cleaned. 187 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:23,560 Greeny's a nightmare. 188 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,720 He's mean and he's destructive and he's ruining my mom's career. 189 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,080 Greeny is tearing my store apart and our family. 190 00:11:36,430 --> 00:11:40,010 So I'm heading in to meet up with Julie and her daughters, Melissa and Emily, 191 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:42,930 and their shop cat, Greeny. Now, of course, I'm always trying to save 192 00:11:42,930 --> 00:11:45,570 relationships. This time around, some merchandise, too. 193 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:49,190 Hey. Hello. 194 00:11:49,690 --> 00:11:51,370 This is fun. This is fun. 195 00:11:51,770 --> 00:11:56,090 But, of course, that is not why I'm here. Unfortunately, I'm here because of 196 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:57,069 cat. 197 00:11:57,070 --> 00:11:58,450 Yes. What's your cat's name? 198 00:11:58,810 --> 00:11:59,890 His name's Greeny. 199 00:12:00,270 --> 00:12:01,270 Hello. 200 00:12:01,390 --> 00:12:02,750 And how did you get him? 201 00:12:03,230 --> 00:12:07,550 A friend of mine brought me home the kitten, and so he's a rescue. 202 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:12,310 Very feral. Very feral when you first got him. A feral cat is a cat that was 203 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:15,690 born outdoors with little to no human interaction, and they're usually not 204 00:12:15,690 --> 00:12:17,430 receptive at all to human touch. 205 00:12:17,630 --> 00:12:21,790 On top of that obstacle, being raised as a shop cat instead of in a home caused 206 00:12:21,790 --> 00:12:25,170 Greeny to miss out on another opportunity to be socialized properly. 207 00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:26,810 What's his issue? 208 00:12:27,010 --> 00:12:30,770 For the first seven years, he's been great, but in the past couple years, 209 00:12:30,770 --> 00:12:32,050 started peeing on my furniture. 210 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Not my rug. 211 00:12:34,060 --> 00:12:37,280 There's no way to know exactly why Greeny started peeing around the shop 212 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,280 all these years. 213 00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:41,680 Greeny is neutered, so at least we can rule that out as a cause for spraying. 214 00:12:42,020 --> 00:12:46,100 A cat starts spraying usually as a way to express territorial panic, and 215 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:49,640 something's probably happened here to panic Greeny. So he lives with you? 216 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,340 He lives here at the shop. Ever since he was little, he's had free reign of the 217 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:57,220 store. I've been around a lot of shop cats before, and it's great. Shop cats 218 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:58,920 have a job. They're mousers. 219 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,880 They entertain people when they come in, but they're not... 220 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,059 House cats. 221 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:07,740 Greeny is very much part of the emotional fabric of the family, and that 222 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:11,000 little uncommon when it comes to shop cats. How bad is the problem? 223 00:13:11,420 --> 00:13:13,800 Well, if you look on the floor, there's all kinds of spots. 224 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,920 I had a customer buy a dresser from me, and he said, what's this on the handle? 225 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,120 And I said, oh, accumulated furniture polish. 226 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,680 And then I went like that and smelled it, and it was Greeny Pete. 227 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,640 Potentially could be any... 228 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:30,930 animal that comes in during story hours. 229 00:13:31,370 --> 00:13:36,570 She's blaming a rogue squirrel once or a rogue lizard that could have like one 230 00:13:36,570 --> 00:13:40,290 time. Oh, you love Greeny. You're trying to protect him. She has doors open and 231 00:13:40,290 --> 00:13:43,730 all these people around here are dog people and she's dog friendly. So she 232 00:13:43,730 --> 00:13:47,090 them come on in. So I've been blaming the dogs in their sense. 233 00:13:47,390 --> 00:13:48,750 Yes, it is very popular. 234 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:53,150 The difference between dog pee and cat pee? Cat pee smells way worse than dog 235 00:13:53,150 --> 00:13:54,180 pee. That is true. 236 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:59,320 Emily's in such denial that she actually believes that maybe it's because people 237 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,340 let their dogs inside the store and the dogs lift their legs. Now, both her 238 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:05,600 sister and her mother understand what I understand. 239 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,180 Dog pee and cat pee are totally different animals. 240 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Cat pee, you can smell a mile away. I want to talk to you guys separately and 241 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,060 get your take on the experience. 242 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,620 Who's to blame for this? 243 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:20,340 Well, I'd have to say it was Emily. 244 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Greeny's my sister's cat, but she's not doing any of the day -to -day work. She 245 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,980 comes once a day maybe to visit him, but I'm the one that has to clean up. I'm 246 00:14:28,980 --> 00:14:33,980 the one that has to do all the work involved with Greeny's upkeep. She 247 00:14:33,980 --> 00:14:38,900 feral. It's this nightmare cat and just dumps the feral on my mom. 248 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:43,000 Can you afford to not have rugs and not have upholstered furniture or not? It's 249 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,080 definitely hurting my business. 250 00:14:44,420 --> 00:14:45,860 You've noticed a change in the bottom line? 251 00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:47,320 Mm -hmm. I definitely have. 252 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,700 Talking to Julie and Melissa may agree on one thing, and that is that Emily is 253 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:54,860 at the center of this whole thing. 254 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Would you mind losing these lights for me? Sure. 255 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,500 So now to get a really clear picture of what's going on with Greeny, I want to 256 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:05,300 take a black light around this place. I have got to start checking the evidence. 257 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,500 Oh, look at that. 258 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,960 Look at all that. 259 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:10,260 Oh, there's more. 260 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,720 Look, do you see it? 261 00:15:13,060 --> 00:15:15,300 I want you to see all of this. 262 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,760 All the stuff that's lighting up here, there's some more right here. 263 00:15:19,260 --> 00:15:21,440 Here's where you start being able to smell it, too. 264 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,060 That is definitely Greeny. 265 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:29,280 As I'm going around the store, I'm discovering patterns where Greeny is 266 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,780 and the math comes together with a portrait of anxiety. 267 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Look, do you see it? Yeah. 268 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,660 I feel horrible. I thought that coming by and visiting him on a daily basis was 269 00:15:39,660 --> 00:15:43,980 going to be enough to maintain that bond, but apparently... 270 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,160 His accents are saying otherwise. 271 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:51,040 Now, what do you want me to do? 272 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,300 I want you to help me show to my mom and sister that he is, you know, this 273 00:15:56,300 --> 00:16:01,420 wonderful, loving cat that needs to be treated like it rather than just being 274 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:02,420 treated like a problem. 275 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,820 Now that Emily's finally being honest with herself about the situation, the 276 00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:10,520 way that I can see if or how I can help is to spend some time with Greeny. Where 277 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,039 is he? 278 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Greeny! 279 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Greeny's under the green. 280 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:17,000 I would like to see a Greeny. 281 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:18,820 Can I see a Greeny? 282 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,180 You take a cat like Greeny who was born feral, then raises a shop cat without 283 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:26,820 positive interactions with strangers. Well, that cat's not going to change 284 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:30,260 because of all the socialization that he missed out on early in life. 285 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Talk to him. 286 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:33,420 Greeny. 287 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:36,860 Oh, there's a Greeny. 288 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:39,960 Hi, Greeny. Oh, my God, he's gorgeous. 289 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Can I say hello to you? 290 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,880 No, 291 00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:45,380 my boy. 292 00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:47,660 It's okay. It's okay, baby. 293 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Don't be scared. 294 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,480 The second I lay eyes on him and I hear that stressed meow, I know that Greeny 295 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,880 has a high degree of insecurity in this territory. Has he demonstrated any 296 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,800 measure of increased sociability with strangers? 297 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,540 So then what does then fixing him look like? If I can't make him more social in 298 00:17:16,540 --> 00:17:20,880 a huge space like the store, you just want him to be able to what? 299 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:27,140 To continue on. He has a roof over his head and he's spoiled, and I just want 300 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:29,960 him to continue to have that life. We can leave him. 301 00:17:30,460 --> 00:17:33,660 I just want one more little moment. 302 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:39,910 Hopefully. The next thing I want to do is I want to see if I can tempt his nose 303 00:17:39,910 --> 00:17:42,990 in the same way that my presence tempted his eyes. 304 00:17:43,310 --> 00:17:44,990 I get you to smell the glasses, baby. 305 00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:46,210 What's that? 306 00:17:47,030 --> 00:17:48,030 Are you a good boy? 307 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:50,470 He's frozen. 308 00:17:50,830 --> 00:17:55,770 As I'm in this room longer and longer, he's shutting down more and more. Cute 309 00:17:55,770 --> 00:18:00,290 Greeny is, he's still the under -socialized, anxiety -ridden cat I 310 00:18:00,290 --> 00:18:01,290 was going to meet. 311 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:02,590 So, guys. 312 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Why are you looking at me like that? You guys are all looking like I'm going to 313 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:05,979 give you bad news. 314 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:09,260 But you knew things had to change here, right? 315 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:13,560 Because he's really messing the place up pretty good. 316 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Cats pee out of a sense of territorial insecurity. 317 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:23,300 Really? So there's something out there totally stressing him out at night. 318 00:18:23,380 --> 00:18:27,600 Whatever is out there. It could just be people or traffic or whatever it is. It 319 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:28,680 makes him feel vulnerable. 320 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,380 And then he feels like he has to act. 321 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:36,450 right so that's what he does but the way he lives his life right now is not 322 00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:43,350 great for him at all between this huge piece of territory that he feels 323 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:48,470 like he can't defend and then the fear that he has because he's only socialized 324 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:53,330 with you and that's it so he can't feel comfortable when people are here during 325 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:55,410 the day and at night we know that he's not comfortable because he's peeing 326 00:18:55,410 --> 00:18:59,590 everywhere so my homework for you 327 00:19:00,999 --> 00:19:03,800 is very simple. He can't be a shop cat anymore. 328 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,660 What are we going to do? 329 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:17,500 He can't be a shop cat 330 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:19,100 anymore. What are we going to do? 331 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:23,600 I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going to make him a house cat. 332 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,160 dealing with a degree of fear that... 333 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,640 can only be what I'm seeing here. All of the urine, all of the places, the 334 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,460 perimeter marking, he's got to get out of here. Now it's up to you guys to 335 00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:37,240 decide which home that is. 336 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,100 What needs to be there is a catified space for this cat. 337 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:46,200 He's used to hiding, so I want him to have, instead of places to cave, like 338 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,600 closets and places like that, I want places that are cocoons, that we can 339 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,200 him hidden for now, but guide him out. But then you guys doing the work is 340 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,520 to help to bring him out. 341 00:19:56,890 --> 00:19:58,810 That's going to be pretty freaking hard. 342 00:19:59,370 --> 00:20:02,330 It's not going to be easy, but you're a cat. 343 00:20:02,730 --> 00:20:05,290 I mean, he probably should be with you, right? 344 00:20:05,610 --> 00:20:10,270 How am I supposed to do that? Like, I work two jobs, then I work for you, and 345 00:20:10,270 --> 00:20:13,410 then I'm also going to school full -time. Like, that's going to work? 346 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:15,070 It has to go with Mom. 347 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:16,950 What if he pees in my house? 348 00:20:17,530 --> 00:20:20,070 Well, I mean, I really don't see any other option. 349 00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:22,130 Let's not make this an emotional decision. 350 00:20:22,370 --> 00:20:23,590 I don't... 351 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,840 Really care where it is that he goes. But you guys asked me for the help. 352 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,740 it is. I'll be back in a few weeks to someone's house, and we'll take it from 353 00:20:32,740 --> 00:20:34,960 there. All right, guys? Thank you, John. All right. 354 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,320 I'll talk to you soon. 355 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:41,780 Looks like I got out of there in the nick of time. I don't want to be part of 356 00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:42,659 that conversation. 357 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:46,840 These guys all wanted something very different from me. But what I want and 358 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,040 they should want is a cat that is out of that shop and into a home. 359 00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:04,670 I'm back in Colorado to see Jackson. Here's what I'm hoping. Chris and 360 00:21:04,670 --> 00:21:08,750 Stephanie, they're building a team again. That we're seeing desensitization 361 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:13,810 the form of base camp expansion and site swapping. And hopefully the mealtime 362 00:21:13,810 --> 00:21:17,330 exercise is paying off and these cats are getting closer and closer to knowing 363 00:21:17,330 --> 00:21:20,730 that there are positive things around each other. First of all, you guys. 364 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:24,310 How do you feel? Team building has been going really well, and it's really 365 00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:25,309 brought us together. 366 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:30,250 It took a few days to kind of get into me moving back upstairs, but so far it's 367 00:21:30,250 --> 00:21:32,070 been good. And you know who loves it the most? 368 00:21:32,490 --> 00:21:33,490 Jackson. 369 00:21:35,450 --> 00:21:36,990 Playpen. Gone? 370 00:21:37,410 --> 00:21:38,410 Gone. 371 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:46,330 Gone. Love it. What I want to do is I want to get straight into your homework. 372 00:21:46,610 --> 00:21:47,610 Boom. 373 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,060 Sasha and Kona do not like to be locked in a certain room. 374 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:55,220 Oh, wow. 375 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:57,280 And that's without Jackson. 376 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,980 That's just having the door shut. 377 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720 They're still struggling with feeding exercise. 378 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,160 The goal of the feeding exercise for reintroduction is to bring the cats 379 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,560 to one another, forming a positive association using food. 380 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:14,560 He's not treat motivated. He's not food motivated. 381 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,540 Wait, hold on. Let's go back here. 382 00:22:17,879 --> 00:22:19,140 There's the food over there. 383 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,320 There's Jackson all the way over there. 384 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,580 I totally know where you're going with this. Yeah. Our food sucks. 385 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:25,759 Your food sucks. 386 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,680 In these feeding reintroduction exercises that I do, the key is to forge 387 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,640 positive association between these two cats by being rewarded with a high value 388 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,500 food. Now, of course, that food differs from cat to cat, but you can start with 389 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:42,890 a generality like... A meaty dish that's warmed up to body temperature. That 390 00:22:42,890 --> 00:22:47,670 should work with just about any cat. I think that expansive base camp went 391 00:22:47,670 --> 00:22:48,529 really well. 392 00:22:48,530 --> 00:22:50,370 There's Jackson on Kona's blanket. 393 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:54,330 And here's Kona on Jackson's bedspread. Good. 394 00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:58,190 We are sight swapping. This is his first time downstairs ever. 395 00:22:59,650 --> 00:23:01,510 Wow. Look at his eyeballs. 396 00:23:01,810 --> 00:23:06,050 I'm psyched. Because I got Jackson coming downstairs. I'm looking at his 397 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:09,810 language, and I'm seeing mojo. I'm seeing relaxed, confident, exploring. 398 00:23:10,090 --> 00:23:14,010 Jackson is smelling himself on everything, and he's associating that 399 00:23:14,150 --> 00:23:15,550 Base camp expansion works. 400 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:21,710 Now what the job is in front of us today is I want to see Challenge Line in 401 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:24,990 action. All right, so let's get everybody set up, and let's do some 402 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:26,250 Line. Come on. Let's go. 403 00:23:26,910 --> 00:23:29,430 And the vet's phone number is on the fridge if we need it. 404 00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:34,120 I know it's a risk, but if this is going to work, I need to do a challenge line 405 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,100 to see how these cats react when they're in the same room together. 406 00:23:37,580 --> 00:23:42,000 It's the only way I know how to gauge their progress to this point. I just 407 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,500 that nobody loses a tail this time. 408 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,920 If a fight starts to happen, I want you to be able to see it happening first, 409 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:51,480 right? But if it does go down, sight blockers, you put them down like this. 410 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,980 allows you that minute to be able to guide them someplace else so that we can 411 00:23:54,980 --> 00:23:57,660 stop this fight from happening before it happens, okay? 412 00:23:58,460 --> 00:23:59,460 Stephanie? 413 00:23:59,610 --> 00:24:00,610 I'm so glad you're here. 414 00:24:01,490 --> 00:24:02,870 I want Stephanie to go upstairs. 415 00:24:03,130 --> 00:24:06,310 And what she's supposed to do is occupy Jackson, make him think it's just 416 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:10,190 another day, get him into playing a little bit, and start luring him down 417 00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:13,770 stairs. But Chris's role is a little more difficult. Chris has to wrangle two 418 00:24:13,770 --> 00:24:18,350 cats. He's got to get both Kona and Sasha getting interested in play and 419 00:24:18,350 --> 00:24:22,230 around in the living room and drawing them out into the dining room. All 420 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:25,090 Chris, you can get up and start pulling her this way. 421 00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:30,230 As soon as she gets in this area, I'm going to not worry too much about Kona. 422 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:31,970 don't want to stare down. I want activity. 423 00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:36,070 So, Chris, you want to get up and start just walking. Come on. Get her moving. 424 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:37,189 Get her moving. 425 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:39,650 There you go. All right, Stephanie, come on. 426 00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:40,950 Let's do it. 427 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:43,690 And out comes Jackson. 428 00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:50,490 Right there, he knows exactly where Sasha is, but what he cares about is 429 00:24:50,490 --> 00:24:53,210 thing. Right? See, he's looking in the opposite direction. 430 00:24:53,850 --> 00:24:55,170 And that's what we want. 431 00:24:55,450 --> 00:25:00,390 Sasha's coming out, a little hesitant, but not overly scared, not like Kona at 432 00:25:00,390 --> 00:25:03,310 all. Chris can draw her out. I'm feeling good about Sasha. 433 00:25:03,610 --> 00:25:04,710 Oh, good girl. 434 00:25:05,050 --> 00:25:06,230 Get that food, man. 435 00:25:06,650 --> 00:25:07,710 I want her eating. 436 00:25:08,410 --> 00:25:10,270 Oh, you're way too interested in that door. 437 00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:13,490 I am going to shut that door as soon as I get him. 438 00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:16,070 Can you please come on out? Good boy. 439 00:25:16,930 --> 00:25:23,050 Here, your side, left side. Now, here's the thing. I am going to, I am going to, 440 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,240 There we go. 441 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Uh -oh. It's okay, Bubba. 442 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,119 It's okay. 443 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,600 All right, now hold up. 444 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:31,660 Hold up. 445 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:34,560 Okay, now we got a little bit of a problem. No, no, no, no, Sasha. 446 00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:36,580 Hey, hey, hey! 447 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,779 Sorry. It's okay. 448 00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:40,780 Do you want me to open the door? 449 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:42,060 Yep, go for it. 450 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,260 Jackson! I don't know where she is. 451 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,840 Jackson, come on, buddy. It's okay, Sasha. 452 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Do you have both of them? 453 00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:48,079 I got one. 454 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,160 Which one's this? Sasha? 455 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,380 Okay, there goes Tasha. Tasha wants to go upstairs. Here he comes. He's coming 456 00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:56,080 your way. Oh, no. 457 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,520 Okay, 458 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,280 there goes Tasha. Tasha wants to go upstairs. Here he comes. He's coming 459 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,040 way. Oh, no. 460 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:20,260 I'm with Guardians Christmas Stephanie, who bought a two -story house to keep 461 00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:21,259 their cats apart. 462 00:26:21,260 --> 00:26:25,640 And now, an exercise designed to normalize cat relations has gone awry, 463 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,000 resulting in two enemy cats running upstairs, unsupervised. There has been 464 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,140 real damage done to these cats by one another in the past, and I can't let it 465 00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:35,460 happen again, not on my watch. 466 00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:37,460 Hey, guys. 467 00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:40,020 Hi. What are we doing under there? 468 00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:42,280 We're both under the bed. They're both under the bed. 469 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,380 Can you guys come this way, please? 470 00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:46,020 Hi. 471 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,460 To my surprise, I find no violence whatsoever. 472 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Then Sasha just slips past me and goes out the door. 473 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:57,499 She's out? 474 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:02,460 Yep. This tells me that these cats were more freaked out by the anxiety of the 475 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:06,080 moment than any kind of resentment they may have had towards one another. 476 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:10,140 If these cats wanted to kill one another in this moment, they would have, and 477 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:11,780 they didn't. That's encouraging news. 478 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,500 Let's all go downstairs, let him decompress, and... 479 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Let's figure out what's next. 480 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,520 Just like a person, cats often need time to wind down after an emotional event. 481 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,180 Approaching the cat when they're in this state is just going to cause more 482 00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:28,780 stress. So I'm just going to allow time to chill out. That's what I would always 483 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:30,840 do. Here's what I'm happy about. 484 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,180 Number one, I'm happy, obviously. No blood, no trips to the hospital, nothing 485 00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:39,360 like that. I'm also happy that those two cats, Sasha and Jackson, sitting side 486 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,240 by side, they didn't want to kill each other. If they wanted to, it would have 487 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,740 happened. That's the good news, and we're going to build on that. So the 488 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:48,820 thing that I'm going to have you guys do is minimize the chaos. 489 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,560 Block off all unders. 490 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:54,630 The unders of the couch, the unders of the bed. Block it off. There's some 491 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:57,530 really easy ways to do it. It can come down to a two by four under these 492 00:27:57,530 --> 00:28:01,390 couches. I don't want to see cats getting into fights under couches or 493 00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:06,390 beds anymore. This way, we avoid confrontations between cats where we 494 00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:09,790 reach them, which is always going to end bad for the cats and for the humans as 495 00:28:09,790 --> 00:28:13,550 well. What we're going to do in here is give them the option to go up instead of 496 00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:14,550 under. 497 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,840 The reintroduction continues as it was. 498 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,380 Now, while you're doing your reintroduction meals, I want to 499 00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:25,280 we did today. Now, here's my plan. Bear with me. It's not about them being able 500 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,120 to be at the same space at the same time. We know they can. 501 00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:31,640 What I'd like to do is how long can we make this go on to the point where can 502 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,080 these guys just be in the room together? Can it be 15 minutes? Can it be a half 503 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,500 hour? Can it be indefinite? 504 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Indefinite would be great, and I want to see that happen over the next few 505 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,960 weeks. But the big important thing is the food. The jackpot level of the food 506 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,900 really goes a long way here. Food preferences vary from cat to cat, but 507 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:53,540 just want to start with a slightly warmed up, all meat cat food and see how 508 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:54,239 cat reacts. 509 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,240 We use that as the introduction. 510 00:28:56,580 --> 00:29:00,840 But after that, I think that Jackson and Sasha can be in the same room at the 511 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,840 same time. So. 512 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,040 By the time I get back here next time, we've got to have this space catified. 513 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,700 have to have meal time down to a science. 514 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,860 Kona's been really relaxed since I got here, but I want to see Sasha and 515 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:12,880 hanging together peacefully. 516 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,840 And I want to see Sasha and Jackson peas in a pod. 517 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,400 Let's keep spirits up, and I'll talk to you in a few weeks. 518 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,560 I'm heading in to meet up with Tammy and her daughter, Jordan. 519 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,920 Jordan's autistic, but has found this intense connection with cats, and I'm 520 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,920 going to find out all about it. 521 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:40,800 Hey. Hi. Nice to meet you. 522 00:29:41,020 --> 00:29:41,899 I am Tammy. 523 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,000 Pleasure to have you here. 524 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,840 This is my daughter, Jordan. Hi, Jordan. Hi. Can you say hi to Jackson? 525 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,819 Hi, Jackson. 526 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:48,820 Nice to meet you. 527 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:50,400 Good to see you. Good to see you. 528 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,700 So. Tammy, tell me the story of Jordan. So Jordan is autistic and currently 529 00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:01,660 works at Adopt -A -Shop, a volunteer place to go and to interact with the 530 00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:03,320 kittens. How did that happen? 531 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:07,240 So Jordan, ever since she was little, she's had a love for cats. 532 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:12,600 And through Jordan's volunteering, she has increased her language and her 533 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,720 communication skills. 534 00:30:13,940 --> 00:30:17,140 Wow. And she'll tell me, like, how many kittens she's played with during the 535 00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:20,960 day. Oh, cool. The difference in her is amazing, truly. 536 00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:25,470 Well, I would love to go over to Adopt and Shop and see what Jordan is like 537 00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:26,069 the cats. 538 00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:28,470 Hey, Jordan, you want to go spend time with some kittens? Mm -hmm. 539 00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:29,710 Me too. 540 00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:30,730 Let's go. Let's go. 541 00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:37,730 The reason there are programs like Adopt and Shop where it's about what if kids 542 00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:41,310 with autism met up with cats who then have to get adopted. 543 00:30:41,530 --> 00:30:42,530 Look who we got. 544 00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:44,190 How many people would that help? 545 00:30:44,540 --> 00:30:49,140 And because they asked that question, we see a difference in both Jordan and 546 00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:50,039 these cats' lives. 547 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,040 Look at that. 548 00:30:52,060 --> 00:30:53,060 It's a kitten. 549 00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:55,420 We have another black cat. 550 00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:58,260 No, he's so cute. 551 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Let's see who wants to play with you. 552 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,680 You want to play? 553 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,080 This one likes me. 554 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,160 I got a friend over here. 555 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,680 Here we go. 556 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,080 The cats love you, Jordan. 557 00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:14,500 What are you doing? Do you got a kitten? 558 00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:19,440 Huh? It's so great to see how happy she is. Just like instantly. 559 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880 Honestly, the difference. 560 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,240 She gets that smile on her face. Yeah, totally. She does, yeah. At Tammy and 561 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,940 Jordan's home, Jordan was in her own space. 562 00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:35,580 Here, she's talking to me. And there's a smile and laughter. The change is 563 00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:37,160 unbelievable. Hey, cat. 564 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:39,700 Come here, kitten. Come on, cat. Come on. 565 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:42,100 The cat's... 566 00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:47,750 actually model a social group that Jordan feels like she can be a part of, 567 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:49,270 then radiates that confidence. 568 00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:51,130 It's undeniable. 569 00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:55,050 Kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. And it is so good for the cats, too. Let's 570 00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:55,909 not forget that. 571 00:31:55,910 --> 00:31:59,650 Just getting out like this, playing with toys, getting treats, getting loved on, 572 00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:02,770 big deal when we're trying to get them adopted. Oh, yeah. 573 00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:07,030 Having a presence in communities the way Adopt and Shop does helps everybody. 574 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:10,670 Obviously, the animals go home. Obviously, the less animals die in 575 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:16,080 You just ask Jordan or anybody else, what it does for the human population is 576 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080 just as strong. 577 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,900 Chum, Chad, Chum. 578 00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:24,800 I'm grateful Jordan gets the opportunity to help people pick out a kitten to 579 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,860 adopt, and she also gets to take care of them to know that she's happy doing 580 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,220 what she does here. It's a wonderful feeling. 581 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:32,900 You look like you have a friend. 582 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:34,740 I'm going to leave you guys alone. 583 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:43,370 That's so amazing to watch how much joy these cats bring out of Jordan and she 584 00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:46,750 in turn gets them adopted. Come on. How cool. 585 00:32:49,330 --> 00:32:52,130 Has he peed here at all? Anywhere but the litter box. 586 00:32:54,530 --> 00:32:58,410 Any number of things can happen right now to cause absolute chaos. We've seen 587 00:32:58,410 --> 00:33:00,430 before and believe me, we can see it again. 588 00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:04,690 I want us to not freak. 589 00:33:23,470 --> 00:33:27,550 I'm coming in for my second visit with Julie and her two daughters, Melissa and 590 00:33:27,550 --> 00:33:31,430 Emily. And the last time I was here, the cat, Greeny, was ruining the 591 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:35,170 merchandise and wreaking havoc on this family. I made it pretty clear. Greeny 592 00:33:35,170 --> 00:33:38,970 needs to be a house cat. Hopefully these guys heard me. We got a cat on his way 593 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:39,970 to being a happy cat. 594 00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:43,330 Well, hi, guys. 595 00:33:43,510 --> 00:33:44,850 Hi, Jackson. How are you? 596 00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:47,370 Good to see you. Good to see you, too. 597 00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:49,990 I'm looking. I'm looking. 598 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:51,490 Is there a cat in the shop? 599 00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:54,210 There's not. There's not a catnip shop. 600 00:33:54,670 --> 00:33:57,450 I'm so excited. Well, that's one thing out of the way. Where is it? 601 00:33:57,790 --> 00:34:03,110 Well, we talked about it. There's no other option. We had to keep them at 602 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:04,110 house. Okay. 603 00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:05,810 You know what? That's totally cool. 604 00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:08,469 Well, there's no pee in the store. 605 00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:12,530 That's one big thing out of the way. I would say since we have some unfinished 606 00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:16,730 business, I'm going to take you guys and let's go to your house. All right. 607 00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:17,810 Let's do it. 608 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:20,550 Hey, look at you. 609 00:34:21,389 --> 00:34:25,870 Yeah. Look at you, Julie. This looks fantastic, man. 610 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:27,469 Do you think we catified enough? 611 00:34:27,850 --> 00:34:31,550 You absolutely rocked this. 612 00:34:32,489 --> 00:34:36,929 Loving what I see. Everything from tunnels to beds, cocoons. Greeny's going 613 00:34:36,929 --> 00:34:40,310 be on the floor. He wants to be hidden just like he was in the closet before. 614 00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:45,310 But they've also got all this great stuff to urge him up into the rest of 615 00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:47,050 world. Greeny is set up for success. 616 00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:51,469 I'm thrilled that you're using the Contempo cat stuff. 617 00:34:51,830 --> 00:34:55,130 Towers all over the place. Great space. He loves the rug. 618 00:34:55,570 --> 00:34:57,350 He rolls around on the rug. 619 00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:05,730 It's so exciting. To me, the essence of what makes a confident cat is owning 620 00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:11,650 property, right? Before, the amount of space was endless. But for him to be 621 00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:14,450 here, that's a big, big deal for this cat. 622 00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:16,490 But really, the big... 623 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,880 Question is, and the reason why you brought me over here was him peeing all 624 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,500 everything all the time. 625 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,800 Has he peed here at all, anywhere but the litter box? 626 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:28,420 Nope. 627 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,280 And there it is. Everything that I'm seeing and hearing from Emily and Julie 628 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,020 great news. Now it's time for me to check in with Greeny to evaluate his 629 00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:38,020 progress myself. 630 00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:40,400 Oh, my friend, it's okay. 631 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,840 Greeny. It's okay, buddy boy. 632 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,100 Give him this tunnel. 633 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,640 Give him... Give him his blanket, honey. It's okay, baby. 634 00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:51,420 Don't be scared. My poor boy. 635 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:52,940 It's okay, honey. 636 00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:57,570 Great as it is that Greeny is not panicked and peeing all over the place, 637 00:35:57,570 --> 00:36:01,430 concerning that he's reacting with these really distressed yowls and going into 638 00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:05,510 hiding. It means that he still doesn't trust outsiders and he still has a lot 639 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:09,250 deep ingrained fear. I want to give Julie some tips that will give Greeny 640 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:12,330 confidence to come out and explore the space some more. Then hopefully next 641 00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:14,190 I come back here, I'll see more Greeny. 642 00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:17,990 I'd like you to bring outsiders here to play with Greeny, give him affection and 643 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:19,950 treats, and make sure that other people can be okay. 644 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:23,730 And if you've done that, you've set him up for success in a major way. 645 00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,650 Overall, today's visit had some real ups and downs. Hopefully when I come back 646 00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:30,630 here in a few weeks, I'll see a big social improvement in Greeny. 647 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,240 So I'm here for my final visit with Chris and Stephanie and their three 648 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:47,660 Sasha, Kona, and Jackson. That name never gets old. So there's been a lot of 649 00:36:47,660 --> 00:36:51,120 progress with these three cats, but really not enough. I've got to see them 650 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,600 getting along, or chances are they never will, and that's bad news for Chris and 651 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,600 Stephanie. 652 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:57,700 Come on in. 653 00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:02,020 So you guys bit the catification bullet. 654 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:04,530 That just works in here so beautifully. 655 00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:08,550 I'm trying not to get too excited. The catification is fantastic in this house, 656 00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:09,650 but it's not everything. 657 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:10,890 Cats have got to get along. 658 00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:15,090 Okay, so before we talk about anything, let's take a look at what you guys have 659 00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:17,370 been up to. We are catifying the house. 660 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,580 We have eliminated lowers. 661 00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:23,720 There's no couch under there anymore. 662 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,300 It doesn't go up. 663 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,200 Was it the first day? Yeah. So Chris has Baca next to him. And that's Jack. And 664 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,660 Jack has found a little perch. 665 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,460 Wait. Yeah. Where? 666 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,420 Yeah. Two feet. Here's Baca. There's Jack. 667 00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:41,440 Wow. Yeah. Look at that. 668 00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:46,090 tail up in the air baby that backwards question mark right there that shows us 669 00:37:46,090 --> 00:37:50,550 that absolute mojo cat right there i mean after all this time of these cats 670 00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:56,090 being separated that we have an interaction like this now i'm happy last 671 00:37:56,090 --> 00:38:00,350 was here it was full on demolition derby mayhem here he comes 672 00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:05,770 Fantastic stuff. 673 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:10,550 I'm really thrilled with it. The exercise today, our challenge line. I'd 674 00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:15,570 get Jax and Sasha and Kona in this room. No sight blockers, no running around, 675 00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:16,828 none of that. 676 00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:21,250 Look, the video homework gives me great hope. Because after I leave today, 677 00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:23,070 that's where the real work begins. 678 00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:26,570 Kona's just chilling in the corner over there. She looks happy. So let's just 679 00:38:26,570 --> 00:38:30,390 leave her be. Let's get Sasha in then, and let's get her settled. And when we 680 00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:33,030 feel the time is right, we'll invite Jack in. Very cool. 681 00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:38,440 Let her take in this whole environment and settling in. Good girl. 682 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,780 Now that's what I wanted to see. 683 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,160 Okay, I think she's settled in. Let's get Jack in here now. 684 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,120 Any number of things can happen right now to cause absolute chaos. We've seen 685 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,160 before, and believe me, we could see it again. 686 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,480 Hey, Jack. 687 00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:57,020 Now, even if he does jump up, I want us to not freak. 688 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,700 Oh, now he is. I want to let this happen. 689 00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:01,069 It's okay. 690 00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:02,070 His eyes are big. 691 00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:03,510 His eyes are dilated? Yeah. 692 00:39:03,790 --> 00:39:04,790 I got him. 693 00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,330 I got him. If I don't step in right now, things are going to go bad. 694 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:16,130 His eyes are dilated? 695 00:39:16,330 --> 00:39:17,390 Yeah. I got him. 696 00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:20,270 I got him. If I don't step in right now, things are going to go bad. 697 00:39:20,970 --> 00:39:24,470 I really want Chris and Stephanie to own this, but I don't want them to own a 698 00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:25,470 massacre. 699 00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:27,710 Everybody, thank you. 700 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:29,230 That worked. 701 00:39:29,710 --> 00:39:34,170 This is a huge learning moment for Chris and Stephanie. They're finding out that 702 00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:37,090 they don't have to overreact during a tense moment between Jack and Sasha. 703 00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:40,610 They can just sight block, redirect, and stay calm. 704 00:39:40,930 --> 00:39:42,890 There you go, bud. That's all it takes, right? 705 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:46,450 So cute. I love it. Look, see? It's Jack in a box. 706 00:39:46,690 --> 00:39:47,710 Hi, Jack in a box. 707 00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:52,570 I'm feeling really good that this couple has got this. And in no time flat, 708 00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:55,810 these guys are going to be sitting there with Jack, Sasha, and Kona in the same 709 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:58,070 room with no cats winding up with stitches. 710 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,760 When you came that first time, these two cats were lunging at each other. 711 00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:10,260 And look at, she's like practically sleeping and he's just hanging out. We 712 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:15,720 Kona in the corner, Jack in the box, and Sasha is just doing her job right now, 713 00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:17,880 which is normalizing this world. 714 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,680 This was exactly what we were hoping for. When I first got here, we had three 715 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,000 cats who were getting into extreme fights and a couple who were taking 716 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,320 measures to deal with them, like buying bigger houses and sleeping apart. 717 00:40:30,580 --> 00:40:34,560 All that was running away from the problem and not dealing with it. Now I 718 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,280 leave here knowing that they're facing the challenge head on. It all adds up to 719 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,380 a house where three cats can coexist and two guardians can, you know, 720 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:47,340 cohabitate. Bye, Jackson the cat. Bye, Sasha the cat. Bye, Kona the cat. 721 00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:49,220 Woo -hoo! 722 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,200 That is the way to end the day. 723 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,420 I'm back in Torrance to pay a visit to Julie and her cat, Greeny. Now, 724 00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:02,320 hopefully, Greeny is coming out of his shell. Let's find out. 725 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:03,900 Hello. 726 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,060 Hi. How are you? 727 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,320 Good. Across the counter. Wow, good to see you. It's good to see you, too. 728 00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:12,240 How's our boy doing? Is he doing well? 729 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,460 Yes. That's fantastic. So, has he come out for other people besides you? 730 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,880 Yeah, we were out of town, and I had somebody come in and feed him, and he 731 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,600 out for him. He came out? Yeah. 732 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,800 That's so cool. 733 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:23,860 Can I see him? 734 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,360 Yeah. Come on, let's go see him. All right. Right on. 735 00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:34,120 Hey. Emily, look who's here. 736 00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:35,880 And look who you got. 737 00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:37,900 How's our greenie beanie? 738 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,020 Look at the way he's looking at everybody. He does not look freaked out 739 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,920 That is a huge change. 740 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,980 Yeah, I think he likes it here. 741 00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:51,000 Not only is he enjoying life, he's comfortable. He's not acting like a 742 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,600 cat. He's not running away. He's just hanging out in your lap. 743 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,480 You created a really welcoming environment for him. Look at how he just 744 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,300 back in there, man. That was beautiful. 745 00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:03,800 All right, take care, guys. All right. Now that's all the proof I needed. 746 00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:09,700 Greeny is now a house cat. He belongs with Julie, and he's a happy cat. And if 747 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,060 he's happy, so am I. 63970

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