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We have three cats, Sasha, Kona, and
Jackson.
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Jackson loves people. He just hates
cats.
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Jackson put both of them in the
hospital.
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He almost ripped off Kona's tail.
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But I'm not willing to send the cat to
the pound or rehome anybody.
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We don't have any other options.
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I have a cat named Greeny who lives
inside my mom's antique store.
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Greeny is peeing on the merchandise.
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I can't sell a poster of furniture. I
can't sell couches. And he's ruined
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that belongs to other people, and it's
really embarrassing.
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Greeny's a nightmare.
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He's destructive, and he's ruining my
mom's career.
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Greeny is tearing my store apart and our
family.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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Oh, my God, I love my job.
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The animal behavior that guardians call
when they're dealing with a difficult
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cat.
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That really ups the stakes a little bit
here.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that
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my help. Thank you.
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Hi,
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I'm Chris.
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And I'm Stephanie. We have three cats,
Sasha, Kona, and Jackson.
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Jackson is four years old.
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He's such a lover. He loves people. He
is so affectionate. He just hates cats.
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We adopted Jack as a play buddy for Kona
and Sasha.
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That didn't go very well.
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Jackson almost ripped off Kona's tail.
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He had to have stitches around his tail.
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After the second time to our vet, she
recommended that we get rid of Jack.
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We have a two -story house, so we can
keep Jack upstairs and the other two
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downstairs just to keep them from
biting.
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Because if they see each other, Jack
attacks them and literally tries to,
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rip their tail off. Jack gets lonely at
night. He'll get at the bottom of the
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stairs and just meow and meow and meow.
And he'll do it 2, 3 o 'clock in the
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morning when you're trying to sleep.
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But I'm not willing to send the cats to
the pound or rehome anybody.
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What do we do now? What do we do now?
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I'm heading in to go see Chris and
Stephanie and their bad cat, and his
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Jackson. We know if his name is Jackson,
he's not a bad cat.
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He's just misunderstood.
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Let's go meet these guys.
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I'm back where my cat career started, in
Boulder, Colorado.
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It's been a long time. Thank you very
much. You got a Jackson.
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I have a Jackson named after you. Oh,
you actually did name him after me?
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Oh, that's so embarrassing.
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If you had named your cat Jackson and he
was like the second coming of the
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Buddha, then hey, I'm all good. But
naming your hell cat Jackson?
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Embarrassed. You have Kona, Jackson,
and?
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Sasha. Right, Sasha.
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My God, they are like litter mates. So
Sasha came first.
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Sasha was here, and then we brought
Kona, and then we went to the pound and
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adopted Jack.
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So we brought him into the house. Did
the normal training between the doors,
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separate rooms. You did a normal
introduction.
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And then when it was time to actually
sort of let him nose -to -nose, he just
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busted out of the door, went after Kona,
flipped him over, and then just...
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Tried to rip his tail off. Almost ripped
his tail off. Damn. So we took him back
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to the pound.
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They have a camera there on all the
kennels, you know, to help adopt the
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I started watching that every day to see
if he would get adopted. And that went
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on for 60 days.
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So I was really worried that they were
going to put him down.
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And that 60th day actually fell on my
birthday.
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And so Chris said, what do you want for
your birthday? And I was like, all I
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want is Jackson back.
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Obviously, I'm happy that the guardians
took Jack back from the shelter where he
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surely would have been euthanized. But
let's step back and look at this from
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perspective for a minute. He spends all
this time in the shelter. Then he goes
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to a home that's already occupied by two
other cats. It's their territory. Now
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he's sent back to the shelter. He spends
a whole bunch of time there. Now he's
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back to the house again.
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You just can't be surprised that a cat
with this kind of an unsettled history
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developing some serious deep -seated
territorial issues.
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Now, the behaviorist that we talked to
told us the second time we reintroduced,
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we should get this cat pen, put them in
there, feed them, play with them, and
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then they get kind of used to each
other. If you take a prey animal like a
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who is living by their wits in the wild,
kill or be killed, you put them in an
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environment that's enclosed and has no
escape routes whatsoever, that's going
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put some undue stress on that animal.
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At that time, we lived in a house that
really didn't have a very good setup to
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have him separated. He was in one room.
So we found this house, and the hole
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upstairs is Jack Land.
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You are not going to tell me that you
moved to a new house for him. We won't
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tell you if you don't want to hear it.
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That's a first. I have not been in this
situation before where the commitment
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stretched to the point where they said,
we need a better house for our cats. So
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you moved into a house.
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For Jackson, now you live... I sleep
upstairs.
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Chris sleeps in the guest room.
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You guys are separated?
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I'm like, what's wrong with you?
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What's wrong with you? Chris and
Stephanie might think that they're
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from the same page and they're doing the
best they can by their cats.
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That's not how it works. This is the
beginning.
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It all goes downhill from here. We can't
let that happen.
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So... I want to meet Jack.
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This is Jack Land.
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Do the other cats ever come up here?
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No. Okay.
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Him being isolated from the rest of the
house, living in a smaller space like
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this, is going to take a toll on him if
it hasn't already.
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Hi, buddy.
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Oh, I know.
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It is your favoritest thing to rub your
scent all over me. Make no mistake about
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it. Even though Jackson is loving and
wonderful, Jackson's actions almost
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attention starved.
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I can also see how the pen itself can be
a little problematic, but I am actually
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going to want to see that. Where do you
keep it?
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Downstairs. Downstairs. Let's go on
down. Okay. Now, as much as I hate using
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pen as a training device, because he's
used to it, and as a challenge line
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exercise, I think we'll put Jack in that
pen just one more time to see how he
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interacts with Sasha. I really need to
see these three cats in the same room at
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the same time in order to make an
assessment, and at this point, using the
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may be the best and safest way to do it.
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So can we get everybody gathered around?
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Yeah, let's try it. All right, let's go.
A challenge line exercise like this is
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where I put a cat into a challenging
environment to see what they can and
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handle. Now, obviously, this could be a
really stressful situation for the cat,
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but it truly is necessary so that I can
make a diagnosis and assess their
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progress along the way.
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So what I'm looking for is the ability
for these guys to be able to eat in each
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other's presence without...
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all hell breaking loose let's bring
sasha a little closer to jackson
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i'm seeing jackson being pretty hyper
alert you know we got
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ears pointed at her right now sasha
seems more worried about jack than those
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treats right in front of her i don't
know kona's coming but he's also looking
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out the other way now even though
jackson's got treats in there right now
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not interested
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He's much more cautious, much less
himself.
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His eyes are squarely on Sasha.
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Let's see what Jack does when Sasha gets
closer.
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He
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is
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not the same cat in this pen as he is
upstairs. That is for sure. My diagnosis
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of Jackson.
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He's territorially aggressive.
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He feels like he doesn't own anything.
He's what I call a Napoleon cat. I don't
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own this? Well, you're damn sure not
going to own it either. I'm going to
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it from you because I am insecure about
my ownership.
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Another thing I take away from the
exercise in the pen is that although
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has attacked Kona in the past, the real
trouble here now is between Jack and
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Sasha. I mean, I know this whole thing
has been pretty hard on you guys. You
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know, all the grief I gave you before
about where you're sleeping and
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everything, that's first and foremost
what I want.
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to nip in the bud. Just remember that
you're a couple first and cat guardian
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second, because if you are not taking
care of each other, you can't take care
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the cat.
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So that begins with our first piece of
homework, which is, you know, at least
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-weekly slumber parties. Please start
breaking that wall down again. You know,
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Jackson will be okay. Anything that
requires you guys to make a sacrifice to
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that degree is doomed.
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The pen's gone.
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No more pens.
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What we're going to replace it with is
site swapping.
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So at least once a day, he comes down
and they go up, okay? And the other
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is, that's his base camp.
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The way that we can expand base camp is
to take things in there that his scent
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is seriously soaked into and start
exploding it out to the rest of the
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We're making it so the whole house
smells like everybody.
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And that's how cats first and foremost
define ownership.
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We're also going to do a reintroduction.
Once there's visual stimulus and they
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can see each other, bad things always
happen.
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What I'd like you to do is use this
screen door. Every time these guys prove
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that they can eat on either side of the
door without the hissing, the
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scratching, the charging the door,
whatever, just eat, walk away, move on.
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we're reintroducing, we're exploding
base camp, we're giving everybody a
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of ownership all at the same time, and
that is going to get us going in the
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right direction here. You could buy a
bigger house. Hell, you can give each
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a separate floor of that house, but
that's just a temporary solution to a
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problem. Jackson's behavior is a
reflection of the continued segregation
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house and his history of territorial
instability, which has led to his
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insecurity and his lashing out at the
other cats.
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Oh, thank you so much for coming. It has
been my pleasure.
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Hi, I'm Julie. I own Street Fair
Antiques. I'm Melissa.
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And I'm Emily.
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I have a cat named Greeny who lives
inside my mom's antique store, and he is
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best part of our family.
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Owning an antique store is hard work,
especially when my daughter's cat is
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peeing on the furniture.
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Greeny is peeing on the merchandise.
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I can't sell rugs. I can't sell poster
furniture.
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I can't sell couches. I have a lot of
items on consignment in here that don't
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belong to me. And he's ruined stuff that
belongs to other people.
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I try and cover up the smells. I try and
get rid of areas where he's peed. I've
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had the carpets cleaned.
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Greeny's a nightmare.
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He's mean and he's destructive and he's
ruining my mom's career.
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Greeny is tearing my store apart and our
family.
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So I'm heading in to meet up with Julie
and her daughters, Melissa and Emily,
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and their shop cat, Greeny. Now, of
course, I'm always trying to save
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relationships. This time around, some
merchandise, too.
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Hey. Hello.
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This is fun. This is fun.
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But, of course, that is not why I'm
here. Unfortunately, I'm here because of
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cat.
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Yes. What's your cat's name?
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His name's Greeny.
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Hello.
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And how did you get him?
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A friend of mine brought me home the
kitten, and so he's a rescue.
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Very feral. Very feral when you first
got him. A feral cat is a cat that was
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born outdoors with little to no human
interaction, and they're usually not
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receptive at all to human touch.
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On top of that obstacle, being raised as
a shop cat instead of in a home caused
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Greeny to miss out on another
opportunity to be socialized properly.
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What's his issue?
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For the first seven years, he's been
great, but in the past couple years,
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started peeing on my furniture.
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Not my rug.
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There's no way to know exactly why
Greeny started peeing around the shop
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all these years.
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Greeny is neutered, so at least we can
rule that out as a cause for spraying.
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A cat starts spraying usually as a way
to express territorial panic, and
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something's probably happened here to
panic Greeny. So he lives with you?
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He lives here at the shop. Ever since he
was little, he's had free reign of the
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store. I've been around a lot of shop
cats before, and it's great. Shop cats
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have a job. They're mousers.
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They entertain people when they come in,
but they're not...
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House cats.
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Greeny is very much part of the
emotional fabric of the family, and that
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little uncommon when it comes to shop
cats. How bad is the problem?
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Well, if you look on the floor, there's
all kinds of spots.
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I had a customer buy a dresser from me,
and he said, what's this on the handle?
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And I said, oh, accumulated furniture
polish.
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And then I went like that and smelled
it, and it was Greeny Pete.
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Potentially could be any...
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animal that comes in during story hours.
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She's blaming a rogue squirrel once or a
rogue lizard that could have like one
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time. Oh, you love Greeny. You're trying
to protect him. She has doors open and
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all these people around here are dog
people and she's dog friendly. So she
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them come on in. So I've been blaming
the dogs in their sense.
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Yes, it is very popular.
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The difference between dog pee and cat
pee? Cat pee smells way worse than dog
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pee. That is true.
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Emily's in such denial that she actually
believes that maybe it's because people
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let their dogs inside the store and the
dogs lift their legs. Now, both her
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sister and her mother understand what I
understand.
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Dog pee and cat pee are totally
different animals.
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Cat pee, you can smell a mile away. I
want to talk to you guys separately and
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get your take on the experience.
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Who's to blame for this?
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Well, I'd have to say it was Emily.
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Greeny's my sister's cat, but she's not
doing any of the day -to -day work. She
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comes once a day maybe to visit him, but
I'm the one that has to clean up. I'm
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the one that has to do all the work
involved with Greeny's upkeep. She
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feral. It's this nightmare cat and just
dumps the feral on my mom.
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Can you afford to not have rugs and not
have upholstered furniture or not? It's
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definitely hurting my business.
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You've noticed a change in the bottom
line?
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Mm -hmm. I definitely have.
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Talking to Julie and Melissa may agree
on one thing, and that is that Emily is
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at the center of this whole thing.
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Would you mind losing these lights for
me? Sure.
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So now to get a really clear picture of
what's going on with Greeny, I want to
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take a black light around this place. I
have got to start checking the evidence.
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Oh, look at that.
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Look at all that.
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Oh, there's more.
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Look, do you see it?
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I want you to see all of this.
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All the stuff that's lighting up here,
there's some more right here.
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Here's where you start being able to
smell it, too.
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That is definitely Greeny.
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As I'm going around the store, I'm
discovering patterns where Greeny is
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and the math comes together with a
portrait of anxiety.
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Look, do you see it? Yeah.
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I feel horrible. I thought that coming
by and visiting him on a daily basis was
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going to be enough to maintain that
bond, but apparently...
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His accents are saying otherwise.
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Now, what do you want me to do?
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I want you to help me show to my mom and
sister that he is, you know, this
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wonderful, loving cat that needs to be
treated like it rather than just being
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treated like a problem.
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Now that Emily's finally being honest
with herself about the situation, the
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way that I can see if or how I can help
is to spend some time with Greeny. Where
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is he?
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Greeny!
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Greeny's under the green.
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I would like to see a Greeny.
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Can I see a Greeny?
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You take a cat like Greeny who was born
feral, then raises a shop cat without
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positive interactions with strangers.
Well, that cat's not going to change
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because of all the socialization that he
missed out on early in life.
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Talk to him.
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Greeny.
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Oh, there's a Greeny.
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Hi, Greeny. Oh, my God, he's gorgeous.
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Can I say hello to you?
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No,
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my boy.
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It's okay. It's okay, baby.
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Don't be scared.
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The second I lay eyes on him and I hear
that stressed meow, I know that Greeny
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has a high degree of insecurity in this
territory. Has he demonstrated any
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measure of increased sociability with
strangers?
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So then what does then fixing him look
like? If I can't make him more social in
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a huge space like the store, you just
want him to be able to what?
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To continue on. He has a roof over his
head and he's spoiled, and I just want
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him to continue to have that life. We
can leave him.
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I just want one more little moment.
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Hopefully. The next thing I want to do
is I want to see if I can tempt his nose
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in the same way that my presence tempted
his eyes.
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I get you to smell the glasses, baby.
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What's that?
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Are you a good boy?
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He's frozen.
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As I'm in this room longer and longer,
he's shutting down more and more. Cute
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Greeny is, he's still the under
-socialized, anxiety -ridden cat I
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was going to meet.
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So, guys.
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Why are you looking at me like that? You
guys are all looking like I'm going to
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give you bad news.
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But you knew things had to change here,
right?
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Because he's really messing the place up
pretty good.
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Cats pee out of a sense of territorial
insecurity.
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Really? So there's something out there
totally stressing him out at night.
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Whatever is out there. It could just be
people or traffic or whatever it is. It
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makes him feel vulnerable.
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And then he feels like he has to act.
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right so that's what he does but the way
he lives his life right now is not
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great for him at all between this huge
piece of territory that he feels
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like he can't defend and then the fear
that he has because he's only socialized
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with you and that's it so he can't feel
comfortable when people are here during
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the day and at night we know that he's
not comfortable because he's peeing
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everywhere so my homework for you
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is very simple. He can't be a shop cat
anymore.
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What are we going to do?
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He can't be a shop cat
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anymore. What are we going to do?
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I'll tell you what we're going to do.
We're going to make him a house cat.
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dealing with a degree of fear that...
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can only be what I'm seeing here. All of
the urine, all of the places, the
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perimeter marking, he's got to get out
of here. Now it's up to you guys to
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decide which home that is.
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What needs to be there is a catified
space for this cat.
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He's used to hiding, so I want him to
have, instead of places to cave, like
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closets and places like that, I want
places that are cocoons, that we can
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him hidden for now, but guide him out.
But then you guys doing the work is
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to help to bring him out.
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That's going to be pretty freaking hard.
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It's not going to be easy, but you're a
cat.
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I mean, he probably should be with you,
right?
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How am I supposed to do that? Like, I
work two jobs, then I work for you, and
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then I'm also going to school full
-time. Like, that's going to work?
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It has to go with Mom.
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What if he pees in my house?
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Well, I mean, I really don't see any
other option.
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Let's not make this an emotional
decision.
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I don't...
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Really care where it is that he goes.
But you guys asked me for the help.
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it is. I'll be back in a few weeks to
someone's house, and we'll take it from
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there. All right, guys? Thank you, John.
All right.
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I'll talk to you soon.
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Looks like I got out of there in the
nick of time. I don't want to be part of
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that conversation.
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These guys all wanted something very
different from me. But what I want and
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they should want is a cat that is out of
that shop and into a home.
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I'm back in Colorado to see Jackson.
Here's what I'm hoping. Chris and
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Stephanie, they're building a team
again. That we're seeing desensitization
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the form of base camp expansion and site
swapping. And hopefully the mealtime
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exercise is paying off and these cats
are getting closer and closer to knowing
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that there are positive things around
each other. First of all, you guys.
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How do you feel? Team building has been
going really well, and it's really
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brought us together.
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It took a few days to kind of get into
me moving back upstairs, but so far it's
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been good. And you know who loves it the
most?
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Jackson.
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Playpen. Gone?
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Gone.
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Gone. Love it. What I want to do is I
want to get straight into your homework.
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Boom.
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Sasha and Kona do not like to be locked
in a certain room.
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Oh, wow.
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And that's without Jackson.
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That's just having the door shut.
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They're still struggling with feeding
exercise.
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The goal of the feeding exercise for
reintroduction is to bring the cats
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to one another, forming a positive
association using food.
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He's not treat motivated. He's not food
motivated.
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Wait, hold on. Let's go back here.
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There's the food over there.
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There's Jackson all the way over there.
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I totally know where you're going with
this. Yeah. Our food sucks.
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Your food sucks.
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In these feeding reintroduction
exercises that I do, the key is to forge
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positive association between these two
cats by being rewarded with a high value
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food. Now, of course, that food differs
from cat to cat, but you can start with
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a generality like... A meaty dish that's
warmed up to body temperature. That
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should work with just about any cat. I
think that expansive base camp went
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really well.
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There's Jackson on Kona's blanket.
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And here's Kona on Jackson's bedspread.
Good.
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We are sight swapping. This is his first
time downstairs ever.
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Wow. Look at his eyeballs.
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I'm psyched. Because I got Jackson
coming downstairs. I'm looking at his
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language, and I'm seeing mojo. I'm
seeing relaxed, confident, exploring.
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Jackson is smelling himself on
everything, and he's associating that
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Base camp expansion works.
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Now what the job is in front of us today
is I want to see Challenge Line in
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action. All right, so let's get
everybody set up, and let's do some
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Line. Come on. Let's go.
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And the vet's phone number is on the
fridge if we need it.
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I know it's a risk, but if this is going
to work, I need to do a challenge line
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to see how these cats react when they're
in the same room together.
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It's the only way I know how to gauge
their progress to this point. I just
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that nobody loses a tail this time.
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If a fight starts to happen, I want you
to be able to see it happening first,
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right? But if it does go down, sight
blockers, you put them down like this.
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allows you that minute to be able to
guide them someplace else so that we can
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stop this fight from happening before it
happens, okay?
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Stephanie?
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I'm so glad you're here.
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I want Stephanie to go upstairs.
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And what she's supposed to do is occupy
Jackson, make him think it's just
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another day, get him into playing a
little bit, and start luring him down
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stairs. But Chris's role is a little
more difficult. Chris has to wrangle two
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cats. He's got to get both Kona and
Sasha getting interested in play and
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around in the living room and drawing
them out into the dining room. All
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Chris, you can get up and start pulling
her this way.
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As soon as she gets in this area, I'm
going to not worry too much about Kona.
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don't want to stare down. I want
activity.
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So, Chris, you want to get up and start
just walking. Come on. Get her moving.
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Get her moving.
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There you go. All right, Stephanie, come
on.
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Let's do it.
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And out comes Jackson.
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Right there, he knows exactly where
Sasha is, but what he cares about is
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thing. Right? See, he's looking in the
opposite direction.
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And that's what we want.
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Sasha's coming out, a little hesitant,
but not overly scared, not like Kona at
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all. Chris can draw her out. I'm feeling
good about Sasha.
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Oh, good girl.
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Get that food, man.
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I want her eating.
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Oh, you're way too interested in that
door.
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I am going to shut that door as soon as
I get him.
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Can you please come on out? Good boy.
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Here, your side, left side. Now, here's
the thing. I am going to, I am going to,
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There we go.
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Uh -oh. It's okay, Bubba.
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It's okay.
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All right, now hold up.
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Hold up.
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Okay, now we got a little bit of a
problem. No, no, no, no, Sasha.
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Hey, hey, hey!
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Sorry. It's okay.
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Do you want me to open the door?
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Yep, go for it.
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Jackson! I don't know where she is.
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Jackson, come on, buddy. It's okay,
Sasha.
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Do you have both of them?
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I got one.
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Which one's this? Sasha?
455
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,380
Okay, there goes Tasha. Tasha wants to
go upstairs. Here he comes. He's coming
456
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:56,080
your way. Oh, no.
457
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,520
Okay,
458
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,280
there goes Tasha. Tasha wants to go
upstairs. Here he comes. He's coming
459
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,040
way. Oh, no.
460
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:20,260
I'm with Guardians Christmas Stephanie,
who bought a two -story house to keep
461
00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:21,259
their cats apart.
462
00:26:21,260 --> 00:26:25,640
And now, an exercise designed to
normalize cat relations has gone awry,
463
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,000
resulting in two enemy cats running
upstairs, unsupervised. There has been
464
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,140
real damage done to these cats by one
another in the past, and I can't let it
465
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:35,460
happen again, not on my watch.
466
00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:37,460
Hey, guys.
467
00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:40,020
Hi. What are we doing under there?
468
00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:42,280
We're both under the bed. They're both
under the bed.
469
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,380
Can you guys come this way, please?
470
00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:46,020
Hi.
471
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,460
To my surprise, I find no violence
whatsoever.
472
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480
Then Sasha just slips past me and goes
out the door.
473
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:57,499
She's out?
474
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:02,460
Yep. This tells me that these cats were
more freaked out by the anxiety of the
475
00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:06,080
moment than any kind of resentment they
may have had towards one another.
476
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:10,140
If these cats wanted to kill one another
in this moment, they would have, and
477
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:11,780
they didn't. That's encouraging news.
478
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,500
Let's all go downstairs, let him
decompress, and...
479
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Let's figure out what's next.
480
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,520
Just like a person, cats often need time
to wind down after an emotional event.
481
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,180
Approaching the cat when they're in this
state is just going to cause more
482
00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:28,780
stress. So I'm just going to allow time
to chill out. That's what I would always
483
00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:30,840
do. Here's what I'm happy about.
484
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,180
Number one, I'm happy, obviously. No
blood, no trips to the hospital, nothing
485
00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:39,360
like that. I'm also happy that those two
cats, Sasha and Jackson, sitting side
486
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,240
by side, they didn't want to kill each
other. If they wanted to, it would have
487
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,740
happened. That's the good news, and
we're going to build on that. So the
488
00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:48,820
thing that I'm going to have you guys do
is minimize the chaos.
489
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,560
Block off all unders.
490
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:54,630
The unders of the couch, the unders of
the bed. Block it off. There's some
491
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:57,530
really easy ways to do it. It can come
down to a two by four under these
492
00:27:57,530 --> 00:28:01,390
couches. I don't want to see cats
getting into fights under couches or
493
00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:06,390
beds anymore. This way, we avoid
confrontations between cats where we
494
00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:09,790
reach them, which is always going to end
bad for the cats and for the humans as
495
00:28:09,790 --> 00:28:13,550
well. What we're going to do in here is
give them the option to go up instead of
496
00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:14,550
under.
497
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,840
The reintroduction continues as it was.
498
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,380
Now, while you're doing your
reintroduction meals, I want to
499
00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:25,280
we did today. Now, here's my plan. Bear
with me. It's not about them being able
500
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,120
to be at the same space at the same
time. We know they can.
501
00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:31,640
What I'd like to do is how long can we
make this go on to the point where can
502
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,080
these guys just be in the room together?
Can it be 15 minutes? Can it be a half
503
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,500
hour? Can it be indefinite?
504
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Indefinite would be great, and I want to
see that happen over the next few
505
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,960
weeks. But the big important thing is
the food. The jackpot level of the food
506
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,900
really goes a long way here. Food
preferences vary from cat to cat, but
507
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:53,540
just want to start with a slightly
warmed up, all meat cat food and see how
508
00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:54,239
cat reacts.
509
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,240
We use that as the introduction.
510
00:28:56,580 --> 00:29:00,840
But after that, I think that Jackson and
Sasha can be in the same room at the
511
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,840
same time. So.
512
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,040
By the time I get back here next time,
we've got to have this space catified.
513
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,700
have to have meal time down to a
science.
514
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,860
Kona's been really relaxed since I got
here, but I want to see Sasha and
515
00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:12,880
hanging together peacefully.
516
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,840
And I want to see Sasha and Jackson peas
in a pod.
517
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Let's keep spirits up, and I'll talk to
you in a few weeks.
518
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,560
I'm heading in to meet up with Tammy and
her daughter, Jordan.
519
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,920
Jordan's autistic, but has found this
intense connection with cats, and I'm
520
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,920
going to find out all about it.
521
00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:40,800
Hey. Hi. Nice to meet you.
522
00:29:41,020 --> 00:29:41,899
I am Tammy.
523
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,000
Pleasure to have you here.
524
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,840
This is my daughter, Jordan. Hi, Jordan.
Hi. Can you say hi to Jackson?
525
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,819
Hi, Jackson.
526
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:48,820
Nice to meet you.
527
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:50,400
Good to see you. Good to see you.
528
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,700
So. Tammy, tell me the story of Jordan.
So Jordan is autistic and currently
529
00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:01,660
works at Adopt -A -Shop, a volunteer
place to go and to interact with the
530
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:03,320
kittens. How did that happen?
531
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:07,240
So Jordan, ever since she was little,
she's had a love for cats.
532
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:12,600
And through Jordan's volunteering, she
has increased her language and her
533
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,720
communication skills.
534
00:30:13,940 --> 00:30:17,140
Wow. And she'll tell me, like, how many
kittens she's played with during the
535
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:20,960
day. Oh, cool. The difference in her is
amazing, truly.
536
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:25,470
Well, I would love to go over to Adopt
and Shop and see what Jordan is like
537
00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:26,069
the cats.
538
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:28,470
Hey, Jordan, you want to go spend time
with some kittens? Mm -hmm.
539
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:29,710
Me too.
540
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:30,730
Let's go. Let's go.
541
00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:37,730
The reason there are programs like Adopt
and Shop where it's about what if kids
542
00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:41,310
with autism met up with cats who then
have to get adopted.
543
00:30:41,530 --> 00:30:42,530
Look who we got.
544
00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:44,190
How many people would that help?
545
00:30:44,540 --> 00:30:49,140
And because they asked that question, we
see a difference in both Jordan and
546
00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:50,039
these cats' lives.
547
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Look at that.
548
00:30:52,060 --> 00:30:53,060
It's a kitten.
549
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:55,420
We have another black cat.
550
00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:58,260
No, he's so cute.
551
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Let's see who wants to play with you.
552
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,680
You want to play?
553
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,080
This one likes me.
554
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,160
I got a friend over here.
555
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,680
Here we go.
556
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,080
The cats love you, Jordan.
557
00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:14,500
What are you doing? Do you got a kitten?
558
00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:19,440
Huh? It's so great to see how happy she
is. Just like instantly.
559
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Honestly, the difference.
560
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,240
She gets that smile on her face. Yeah,
totally. She does, yeah. At Tammy and
561
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,940
Jordan's home, Jordan was in her own
space.
562
00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:35,580
Here, she's talking to me. And there's a
smile and laughter. The change is
563
00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:37,160
unbelievable. Hey, cat.
564
00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:39,700
Come here, kitten. Come on, cat. Come
on.
565
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:42,100
The cat's...
566
00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:47,750
actually model a social group that
Jordan feels like she can be a part of,
567
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:49,270
then radiates that confidence.
568
00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:51,130
It's undeniable.
569
00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:55,050
Kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. And
it is so good for the cats, too. Let's
570
00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:55,909
not forget that.
571
00:31:55,910 --> 00:31:59,650
Just getting out like this, playing with
toys, getting treats, getting loved on,
572
00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:02,770
big deal when we're trying to get them
adopted. Oh, yeah.
573
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:07,030
Having a presence in communities the way
Adopt and Shop does helps everybody.
574
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:10,670
Obviously, the animals go home.
Obviously, the less animals die in
575
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:16,080
You just ask Jordan or anybody else,
what it does for the human population is
576
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080
just as strong.
577
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,900
Chum, Chad, Chum.
578
00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:24,800
I'm grateful Jordan gets the opportunity
to help people pick out a kitten to
579
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,860
adopt, and she also gets to take care of
them to know that she's happy doing
580
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,220
what she does here. It's a wonderful
feeling.
581
00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:32,900
You look like you have a friend.
582
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:34,740
I'm going to leave you guys alone.
583
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:43,370
That's so amazing to watch how much joy
these cats bring out of Jordan and she
584
00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:46,750
in turn gets them adopted. Come on. How
cool.
585
00:32:49,330 --> 00:32:52,130
Has he peed here at all? Anywhere but
the litter box.
586
00:32:54,530 --> 00:32:58,410
Any number of things can happen right
now to cause absolute chaos. We've seen
587
00:32:58,410 --> 00:33:00,430
before and believe me, we can see it
again.
588
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:04,690
I want us to not freak.
589
00:33:23,470 --> 00:33:27,550
I'm coming in for my second visit with
Julie and her two daughters, Melissa and
590
00:33:27,550 --> 00:33:31,430
Emily. And the last time I was here, the
cat, Greeny, was ruining the
591
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:35,170
merchandise and wreaking havoc on this
family. I made it pretty clear. Greeny
592
00:33:35,170 --> 00:33:38,970
needs to be a house cat. Hopefully these
guys heard me. We got a cat on his way
593
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:39,970
to being a happy cat.
594
00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:43,330
Well, hi, guys.
595
00:33:43,510 --> 00:33:44,850
Hi, Jackson. How are you?
596
00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:47,370
Good to see you. Good to see you, too.
597
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:49,990
I'm looking. I'm looking.
598
00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:51,490
Is there a cat in the shop?
599
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:54,210
There's not. There's not a catnip shop.
600
00:33:54,670 --> 00:33:57,450
I'm so excited. Well, that's one thing
out of the way. Where is it?
601
00:33:57,790 --> 00:34:03,110
Well, we talked about it. There's no
other option. We had to keep them at
602
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:04,110
house. Okay.
603
00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:05,810
You know what? That's totally cool.
604
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:08,469
Well, there's no pee in the store.
605
00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:12,530
That's one big thing out of the way. I
would say since we have some unfinished
606
00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:16,730
business, I'm going to take you guys and
let's go to your house. All right.
607
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:17,810
Let's do it.
608
00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:20,550
Hey, look at you.
609
00:34:21,389 --> 00:34:25,870
Yeah. Look at you, Julie. This looks
fantastic, man.
610
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:27,469
Do you think we catified enough?
611
00:34:27,850 --> 00:34:31,550
You absolutely rocked this.
612
00:34:32,489 --> 00:34:36,929
Loving what I see. Everything from
tunnels to beds, cocoons. Greeny's going
613
00:34:36,929 --> 00:34:40,310
be on the floor. He wants to be hidden
just like he was in the closet before.
614
00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:45,310
But they've also got all this great
stuff to urge him up into the rest of
615
00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:47,050
world. Greeny is set up for success.
616
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:51,469
I'm thrilled that you're using the
Contempo cat stuff.
617
00:34:51,830 --> 00:34:55,130
Towers all over the place. Great space.
He loves the rug.
618
00:34:55,570 --> 00:34:57,350
He rolls around on the rug.
619
00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:05,730
It's so exciting. To me, the essence of
what makes a confident cat is owning
620
00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:11,650
property, right? Before, the amount of
space was endless. But for him to be
621
00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:14,450
here, that's a big, big deal for this
cat.
622
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:16,490
But really, the big...
623
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,880
Question is, and the reason why you
brought me over here was him peeing all
624
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,500
everything all the time.
625
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,800
Has he peed here at all, anywhere but
the litter box?
626
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:28,420
Nope.
627
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,280
And there it is. Everything that I'm
seeing and hearing from Emily and Julie
628
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,020
great news. Now it's time for me to
check in with Greeny to evaluate his
629
00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:38,020
progress myself.
630
00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:40,400
Oh, my friend, it's okay.
631
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,840
Greeny. It's okay, buddy boy.
632
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,100
Give him this tunnel.
633
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,640
Give him... Give him his blanket, honey.
It's okay, baby.
634
00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:51,420
Don't be scared. My poor boy.
635
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:52,940
It's okay, honey.
636
00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:57,570
Great as it is that Greeny is not
panicked and peeing all over the place,
637
00:35:57,570 --> 00:36:01,430
concerning that he's reacting with these
really distressed yowls and going into
638
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:05,510
hiding. It means that he still doesn't
trust outsiders and he still has a lot
639
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:09,250
deep ingrained fear. I want to give
Julie some tips that will give Greeny
640
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:12,330
confidence to come out and explore the
space some more. Then hopefully next
641
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:14,190
I come back here, I'll see more Greeny.
642
00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:17,990
I'd like you to bring outsiders here to
play with Greeny, give him affection and
643
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:19,950
treats, and make sure that other people
can be okay.
644
00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:23,730
And if you've done that, you've set him
up for success in a major way.
645
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,650
Overall, today's visit had some real ups
and downs. Hopefully when I come back
646
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:30,630
here in a few weeks, I'll see a big
social improvement in Greeny.
647
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,240
So I'm here for my final visit with
Chris and Stephanie and their three
648
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:47,660
Sasha, Kona, and Jackson. That name
never gets old. So there's been a lot of
649
00:36:47,660 --> 00:36:51,120
progress with these three cats, but
really not enough. I've got to see them
650
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,600
getting along, or chances are they never
will, and that's bad news for Chris and
651
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Stephanie.
652
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:57,700
Come on in.
653
00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:02,020
So you guys bit the catification bullet.
654
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:04,530
That just works in here so beautifully.
655
00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:08,550
I'm trying not to get too excited. The
catification is fantastic in this house,
656
00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:09,650
but it's not everything.
657
00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:10,890
Cats have got to get along.
658
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:15,090
Okay, so before we talk about anything,
let's take a look at what you guys have
659
00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:17,370
been up to. We are catifying the house.
660
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,580
We have eliminated lowers.
661
00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:23,720
There's no couch under there anymore.
662
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,300
It doesn't go up.
663
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Was it the first day? Yeah. So Chris has
Baca next to him. And that's Jack. And
664
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,660
Jack has found a little perch.
665
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,460
Wait. Yeah. Where?
666
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,420
Yeah. Two feet. Here's Baca. There's
Jack.
667
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:41,440
Wow. Yeah. Look at that.
668
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:46,090
tail up in the air baby that backwards
question mark right there that shows us
669
00:37:46,090 --> 00:37:50,550
that absolute mojo cat right there i
mean after all this time of these cats
670
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:56,090
being separated that we have an
interaction like this now i'm happy last
671
00:37:56,090 --> 00:38:00,350
was here it was full on demolition derby
mayhem here he comes
672
00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:05,770
Fantastic stuff.
673
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:10,550
I'm really thrilled with it. The
exercise today, our challenge line. I'd
674
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:15,570
get Jax and Sasha and Kona in this room.
No sight blockers, no running around,
675
00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:16,828
none of that.
676
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:21,250
Look, the video homework gives me great
hope. Because after I leave today,
677
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:23,070
that's where the real work begins.
678
00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:26,570
Kona's just chilling in the corner over
there. She looks happy. So let's just
679
00:38:26,570 --> 00:38:30,390
leave her be. Let's get Sasha in then,
and let's get her settled. And when we
680
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:33,030
feel the time is right, we'll invite
Jack in. Very cool.
681
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:38,440
Let her take in this whole environment
and settling in. Good girl.
682
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,780
Now that's what I wanted to see.
683
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Okay, I think she's settled in. Let's
get Jack in here now.
684
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,120
Any number of things can happen right
now to cause absolute chaos. We've seen
685
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,160
before, and believe me, we could see it
again.
686
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Hey, Jack.
687
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:57,020
Now, even if he does jump up, I want us
to not freak.
688
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,700
Oh, now he is. I want to let this
happen.
689
00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:01,069
It's okay.
690
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:02,070
His eyes are big.
691
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:03,510
His eyes are dilated? Yeah.
692
00:39:03,790 --> 00:39:04,790
I got him.
693
00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,330
I got him. If I don't step in right now,
things are going to go bad.
694
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:16,130
His eyes are dilated?
695
00:39:16,330 --> 00:39:17,390
Yeah. I got him.
696
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:20,270
I got him. If I don't step in right now,
things are going to go bad.
697
00:39:20,970 --> 00:39:24,470
I really want Chris and Stephanie to own
this, but I don't want them to own a
698
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:25,470
massacre.
699
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:27,710
Everybody, thank you.
700
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:29,230
That worked.
701
00:39:29,710 --> 00:39:34,170
This is a huge learning moment for Chris
and Stephanie. They're finding out that
702
00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:37,090
they don't have to overreact during a
tense moment between Jack and Sasha.
703
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:40,610
They can just sight block, redirect, and
stay calm.
704
00:39:40,930 --> 00:39:42,890
There you go, bud. That's all it takes,
right?
705
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:46,450
So cute. I love it. Look, see? It's Jack
in a box.
706
00:39:46,690 --> 00:39:47,710
Hi, Jack in a box.
707
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:52,570
I'm feeling really good that this couple
has got this. And in no time flat,
708
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:55,810
these guys are going to be sitting there
with Jack, Sasha, and Kona in the same
709
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:58,070
room with no cats winding up with
stitches.
710
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,760
When you came that first time, these two
cats were lunging at each other.
711
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:10,260
And look at, she's like practically
sleeping and he's just hanging out. We
712
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:15,720
Kona in the corner, Jack in the box, and
Sasha is just doing her job right now,
713
00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:17,880
which is normalizing this world.
714
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,680
This was exactly what we were hoping
for. When I first got here, we had three
715
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,000
cats who were getting into extreme
fights and a couple who were taking
716
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,320
measures to deal with them, like buying
bigger houses and sleeping apart.
717
00:40:30,580 --> 00:40:34,560
All that was running away from the
problem and not dealing with it. Now I
718
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,280
leave here knowing that they're facing
the challenge head on. It all adds up to
719
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,380
a house where three cats can coexist and
two guardians can, you know,
720
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:47,340
cohabitate. Bye, Jackson the cat. Bye,
Sasha the cat. Bye, Kona the cat.
721
00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:49,220
Woo -hoo!
722
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,200
That is the way to end the day.
723
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,420
I'm back in Torrance to pay a visit to
Julie and her cat, Greeny. Now,
724
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:02,320
hopefully, Greeny is coming out of his
shell. Let's find out.
725
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:03,900
Hello.
726
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,060
Hi. How are you?
727
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,320
Good. Across the counter. Wow, good to
see you. It's good to see you, too.
728
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:12,240
How's our boy doing? Is he doing well?
729
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,460
Yes. That's fantastic. So, has he come
out for other people besides you?
730
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,880
Yeah, we were out of town, and I had
somebody come in and feed him, and he
731
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,600
out for him. He came out? Yeah.
732
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,800
That's so cool.
733
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:23,860
Can I see him?
734
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,360
Yeah. Come on, let's go see him. All
right. Right on.
735
00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:34,120
Hey. Emily, look who's here.
736
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:35,880
And look who you got.
737
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:37,900
How's our greenie beanie?
738
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,020
Look at the way he's looking at
everybody. He does not look freaked out
739
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,920
That is a huge change.
740
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,980
Yeah, I think he likes it here.
741
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:51,000
Not only is he enjoying life, he's
comfortable. He's not acting like a
742
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,600
cat. He's not running away. He's just
hanging out in your lap.
743
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,480
You created a really welcoming
environment for him. Look at how he just
744
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,300
back in there, man. That was beautiful.
745
00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:03,800
All right, take care, guys. All right.
Now that's all the proof I needed.
746
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:09,700
Greeny is now a house cat. He belongs
with Julie, and he's a happy cat. And if
747
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,060
he's happy, so am I.
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