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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 The problem with Charlie and Frankie is that they don't get along. 2 00:00:05,340 --> 00:00:06,500 Hey. Yo. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,720 I haven't been in this house more than a couple minutes and all of a sudden 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,140 there's a fight going on. Oh, you've got to be kidding me, Charlie. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. 6 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:21,320 Baby Angel has a tendency to pee on rugs and anything fabric related. 7 00:00:21,620 --> 00:00:27,580 She's peed so much in one area of our house that the floor is starting to come 8 00:00:27,580 --> 00:00:31,280 up. Well, we would like to expand our family and have a child, possibly foster 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,580 an adult. Are you holding off even the foster process? 10 00:00:36,540 --> 00:00:37,540 No pressure. 11 00:00:37,980 --> 00:00:42,300 When I was three, the doctor said that I would never talk again because that's 12 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:43,199 when I couldn't talk. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,200 Artemis started being social, so Sarah started being social. 14 00:00:46,590 --> 00:00:50,490 Artemis really bridged that gap for her and people because she had a talking 15 00:00:50,490 --> 00:00:55,870 point or a reason to interact. As soon as Artemis got into this home, she just 16 00:00:55,870 --> 00:00:59,710 glommed down to Sarah. She said, you are my person. And that was the start of a 17 00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:00,710 beautiful friendship. 18 00:01:01,010 --> 00:01:02,010 Whoa. 19 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:04,510 Holy. I'm Jackson Galaxy. 20 00:01:04,750 --> 00:01:05,750 What the hell, man? 21 00:01:05,970 --> 00:01:10,790 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 22 00:01:10,790 --> 00:01:13,610 cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have her. 23 00:01:13,870 --> 00:01:14,870 Man. 24 00:01:15,310 --> 00:01:19,930 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 25 00:01:19,930 --> 00:01:20,990 my help. This is fun. 26 00:01:22,370 --> 00:01:25,090 I'm Andrew. 27 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:37,570 And I'm Liz. And we have two cats, Charlie and Frankie. 28 00:01:37,890 --> 00:01:41,150 I love the cats, but the problem with Charlie and Frankie is that they don't 29 00:01:41,150 --> 00:01:42,150 along. 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,700 Charlie and Frankie fight in the living room. 31 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:49,800 They fight upstairs in the bedrooms. 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Frankie is very confident and not scared of much and probably scared of 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,680 everything. Charlie is freaking out before anything's even happening. 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,300 Charlie enters every room like there's going to be an altercation. 35 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,740 I would say Frankie and Charlie's behavior affects our relationship in 36 00:02:14,740 --> 00:02:18,280 sets the tone right off the bat. Liz comes home from a long day at work. The 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,040 cats are excited to see her. They start fighting. I don't even get a word in. 38 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:24,300 Suddenly they've got to be broken up, and then Liz is frustrated. I am 39 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:26,260 frustrated. I am. I'm tired of the cats fighting. 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,380 I'm tired of Andrew being grumpy all the time. I'm tired of, like, walking into 41 00:02:30,380 --> 00:02:34,860 my house and having everybody just, like, all worked up. 42 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:43,410 I love Andrew very much, but the cat fighting is one of the biggest things 43 00:02:43,410 --> 00:02:46,890 we argue about in our relationship, and if we can sort that out, I think our 44 00:02:46,890 --> 00:02:48,030 relationship will be a lot stronger. 45 00:02:58,030 --> 00:02:59,030 How are you doing? 46 00:02:59,150 --> 00:03:01,950 I'm good. How are you? Hey, nice to meet you. 47 00:03:03,010 --> 00:03:06,350 Who's this that I'm seeing? That's Frankie. That's Frankie. So you have an 48 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:07,350 orange tabby girl. 49 00:03:07,870 --> 00:03:13,890 Orange tabby females is pretty rare, and I would never generalize, but orange 50 00:03:13,890 --> 00:03:14,890 tabbies have that thing. 51 00:03:15,210 --> 00:03:20,350 They're gregarious. They're kind of Dennis the Menace -y, you know. Does she 52 00:03:20,350 --> 00:03:23,610 sort of fall into that category? Yeah, I wish I knew that when we adopted her. 53 00:03:23,710 --> 00:03:24,730 She's a sweetheart. 54 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:27,210 She's really sweet. 55 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Frankie is incredibly social, tail up in the air. I don't see anything about her 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,560 off the bat that leads me to believe that she would be an all -out bully 24 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,160 But hey, I've been wrong plenty of times. 58 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,600 We brought Frankie home. We tried to introduce them. They didn't get along. 59 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:46,980 We then separated them and had them on a shift schedule of which one would be 60 00:03:46,980 --> 00:03:51,300 out and about in the house for a 12 -hour shift. One would go away at night 61 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:52,320 one would come out during the day. 62 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Hey! 63 00:03:57,329 --> 00:03:58,329 Yo. Coming in. 64 00:03:58,950 --> 00:04:01,350 Well, I haven't been in this house more than a couple minutes, and all of a 65 00:04:01,350 --> 00:04:02,510 sudden, there's a fight going on. 66 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:09,330 Now, let's talk about that. 67 00:04:11,410 --> 00:04:14,650 So, is that kind of how it tends to happen? 68 00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:18,010 That Frankie will start it? 69 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:19,910 No. 70 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:21,250 We disagree. 71 00:04:21,510 --> 00:04:25,190 In two seconds of being in your house, Frankie goes up the stairs, and all of a 72 00:04:25,190 --> 00:04:26,039 sudden, you hear, ah! 73 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,140 You know, I look up here and Charlie is looking at me like I'm going to eat her. 74 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,320 She thinks everyone's going to eat her. Well, then how could she possibly start 75 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,120 it? Because she's so stressed out all the time, but she antagonizes before she 76 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,420 can be antagonized. 77 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,300 First time we've seen that. She was actually the first cat to start an 78 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:46,300 altercation. 79 00:04:46,660 --> 00:04:47,639 Really? Yeah. 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,540 Frankie, like, walked up to Charlie, kind of, like, sniffed her, and then 81 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:54,280 Charlie swatted her across the face with her nails out. Okay, so that's not 82 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:56,120 calling instigating. What does that call? 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,820 Back the hell away from me. Liz misinterprets what went on that first 84 00:05:01,820 --> 00:05:06,800 Frankie went to Charlie, got a little too in the personal bubble space, and 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,900 Charlie said, back off. 86 00:05:08,570 --> 00:05:10,830 That Charlie thing, get out of my bubble. 87 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:14,970 And Frankie refused. I haven't fully relaxed since we adopted Frankie because 88 00:05:14,970 --> 00:05:17,290 all she wants to do is have a brother. I haven't relaxed since the day it was 89 00:05:17,290 --> 00:05:19,330 born. It's very, very tightly wound. 90 00:05:20,850 --> 00:05:23,070 You know you are. I just want to make the relationship work. 91 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,220 It's honest communication. 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,560 Until death do us part. Until death do you part. 93 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:32,480 So far, Andrew and Liz don't agree about anything. 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,880 I mean, it's an endearing part of their relationship, but it doesn't get us 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,520 anywhere. I've got to get to the truth, and the truth has got to be somewhere 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,520 between the two of them. 97 00:05:39,740 --> 00:05:40,740 Charlie. 98 00:05:41,140 --> 00:05:42,140 Hi, baby. 99 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:45,520 Now, this is interesting. 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,940 Now, Frankie is 100 % hunting Charlie. 101 00:05:50,180 --> 00:05:52,550 Yeah. Is this what it looks like all the time? Yeah. 102 00:05:53,090 --> 00:05:55,990 It's worse in the morning. How the hell could you possibly blame Charlie for 103 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:58,950 anything? Because she started it. She started it one time. 104 00:06:00,530 --> 00:06:03,130 Mama, you're all right. You're okay. Look. Look. 105 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:05,140 I mean, please. 106 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,900 Charlie is trapped. 107 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Like, I know what's going on here, so it's so weird to hear you describe 108 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,380 something completely opposite. I don't think that Andrew and Liz have the 109 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:16,460 slightest idea why things are happening in this house. 110 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:21,720 They have completely misunderstood Charlie and underestimated Frankie. 111 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,140 They don't know their cats nearly as well as they think they do. 112 00:06:25,380 --> 00:06:27,160 I mean, this just feels like a matter of time. 113 00:06:27,820 --> 00:06:30,540 Yeah, well, Charlie's right there, and Frankie's getting ready to run. Oh, look 114 00:06:30,540 --> 00:06:31,540 at us. 115 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,400 And here we go. 116 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Hold on. 117 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:37,320 Does he ever not hunt? 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,280 No. When she's sleeping. 119 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:42,120 Yeah, what's with that? Or she's playing or she's eating. 120 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,460 So she doesn't hunt when she's eating? 121 00:06:44,660 --> 00:06:49,020 No. Can they eat together? Oh, yeah, face to face. Get out of here. Now that 122 00:06:49,020 --> 00:06:50,020 got to see. 123 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,040 Here we go. 124 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Charlie's a -coming. 125 00:06:55,060 --> 00:06:56,060 It's okay. 126 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,160 How do you like that? 127 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:04,520 So these two can eat like this all the time? Yeah. Every day. Every day. Every 128 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,280 day. Yeah. Now, right now, Charlie is looking up. Or does she always eat like 129 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:11,280 that? She kind of does. She will check in on Frankie to see what she's doing. 130 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:15,180 And Frankie is just so consumed by it. With her food, Frankie doesn't look up. 131 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:19,740 got to tell you, man, although I do identify that things are problematic 132 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,500 they're workable. I'm getting a lot of information from the cats right now. 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,200 It's time to push them a little bit. I want to see if I can tempt them, get 134 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,800 involved with toys, treats, to see what really motivates these cats. 135 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:34,220 Good girl. 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,300 Yay, that's very good. What Frankie is telling me is that she's like a kid. 137 00:07:38,660 --> 00:07:44,860 She'll go wherever the fun is. My toy presents fun. And there you are, my 138 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Now it's time to see if I can get Charlie to come out while Frankie's 139 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,000 somewhat intimidating -looking action. 140 00:07:52,410 --> 00:07:55,450 Because I want to see if Charlie has what it takes to stand up for herself. 141 00:07:57,230 --> 00:07:58,310 Come on, Charlie. 142 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:00,450 Oh, boy. 143 00:08:01,150 --> 00:08:03,030 You're a little mojo deficient. 144 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:04,490 Come here, baby. 145 00:08:06,410 --> 00:08:07,410 Come here, honey. 146 00:08:08,350 --> 00:08:11,890 Charlie's face is starting to come out from under the chair. She's starting to 147 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:16,150 get brave, but Frankie is staring at her the whole time. If a fight breaks out 148 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:18,970 with this much challenge presented to them, we're in a bad place. 149 00:08:19,390 --> 00:08:20,390 Don't cause a scene. 150 00:08:29,130 --> 00:08:30,130 Come here, honey. 151 00:08:31,530 --> 00:08:35,150 Charlie's face is starting to come out from under the chair, but Frankie is 152 00:08:35,150 --> 00:08:39,030 staring at her the whole time. If a fight breaks out with this much 153 00:08:39,030 --> 00:08:40,789 presented to them, we're in a bad place. 154 00:08:41,210 --> 00:08:42,429 Don't cause a scene, honey. 155 00:08:43,169 --> 00:08:44,169 Right there. 156 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:49,210 This is a cat who wants to engage, who wants to play, but she keeps looking 157 00:08:49,210 --> 00:08:50,210 here. 158 00:08:50,410 --> 00:08:53,270 Charlie could be just as social, just as present. 159 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,420 As Frankie. But she's not allowed to be that cat because she's always looking 160 00:08:57,420 --> 00:08:58,800 for an exit. 161 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:04,800 Frankie. So we've got a little tube -o -tuna here. 162 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:07,420 Charlie is on guard. 163 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:09,200 Hey, hey, hey. Right here. 164 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:10,680 Look at that. 165 00:09:10,810 --> 00:09:14,370 I can instantly redirect Frankie's aggression. 166 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:19,050 I can do it with a treat. I can do it with a toy. That's fantastic news 167 00:09:19,050 --> 00:09:24,190 that tells me that for Frankie, this is not life and death state. Frankie was 168 00:09:24,190 --> 00:09:28,750 totally able between this and this to be distracted away from Charlie. 169 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:31,370 Is that what you guys see on a regular basis? 170 00:09:31,690 --> 00:09:33,570 He can easily distract her. Yay. 171 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,600 If I could clap right now, I would. 172 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,040 We are going to forge a new relationship between these two cats and hopefully a 173 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,820 new relationship between the humans here as well because this isn't working. 174 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:50,080 Charlie's not having a good time. You know, Frankie's fine. Frankie is 175 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 resilient. Frankie is confident. 176 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Charlie's got none of that. And that's where things have to change around here. 177 00:09:56,460 --> 00:10:00,180 Now the first thing we're going to talk about is X marks the spot. 178 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,400 We're going to have three different colors of tape here. So we have the 179 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,620 of tape, which is for confident areas where she likes to hang out. The yellow 180 00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:14,620 piece of tape is for hiding, the unconfident path, where we're slinking 181 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,260 where we're feeling very unconfident. And the red piece of tape is for hunt or 182 00:10:20,260 --> 00:10:21,640 where fights happen, okay? 183 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:26,080 By having all these green X's around the house, it'll help me find a pattern of 184 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,760 behavior. Now, playtime. 185 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:32,560 I want you to separate them for playtime. The idea is this. Charlie will 186 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,680 confidence through play. When Charlie gets to kill something, that's where 187 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,500 get their confidence. That is where their mojo comes from, when they're 188 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:41,500 their natural life. 189 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,760 And then for Frankie, the cool thing is that play drains out. 190 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,760 that energy that she then will use on Charlie. Separate play times set the 191 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,980 for together play times, or for that matter, together anything. 192 00:10:55,340 --> 00:10:59,760 We're going to take their energy and put it in the right lane here so that life 193 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,740 itself can take root. And hopefully Frankie can stop looking at Charlie as a 194 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:04,419 play toy. 195 00:11:04,420 --> 00:11:06,080 Call me if you need anything. 196 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:07,339 Bye. Bye -bye. 197 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:11,900 My only apprehension is that Liz underestimates my abilities to follow 198 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:12,900 directions. 199 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:25,440 My name is Jacqueline. I'm Devon, and we've been married for a year and a 200 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:28,440 And we are the Crazy Cat Ladies with ACAT. 201 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:34,580 It's Baby Angel, China, Blue, Red, Blackie, Bo, Bear, and Toby. 202 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,679 Was that it? 203 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:36,680 I hope so. 204 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,740 We are happily married newlyweds. 205 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 We have this wonderful new home together and a wonderful life together and a 206 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,640 wonderful fur family together. 207 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,720 And Baby Angel is definitely disrupting that. 208 00:11:55,790 --> 00:12:00,050 She has a tendency to pee on rugs and anything fabric related. 209 00:12:00,350 --> 00:12:04,650 She has peed on our brand new couch. We literally just got this couch. 210 00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:08,950 It's tiresome to wake up in the morning and clean up pee, to come home from work 211 00:12:08,950 --> 00:12:12,470 and clean up pee, like to constantly be cleaning up pee. It's a lot. You're 212 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:16,470 okay. I love baby Angel, but I don't think she likes me very much. 213 00:12:17,330 --> 00:12:22,890 Jacqueline is the only human that baby Angel has a relationship with. She's not 214 00:12:22,890 --> 00:12:23,890 very trusting. 215 00:12:25,770 --> 00:12:30,750 always glaring at me or giving me nasty looks. We have been talking about 216 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:36,410 fostering a child, but we need to get our house in order first, and one of the 217 00:12:36,410 --> 00:12:38,570 things on that list is fixing this problem. 218 00:12:41,470 --> 00:12:43,790 We need Jackson's help and fast. 219 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:54,290 How are you? Hi. 220 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,160 I'm Jacqueline. I'm Jacqueline. Hey, Jacqueline. I'm Devin. Devin, good to 221 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,640 you guys. Welcome to our home. Who's this? 222 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,880 That's Toby. 223 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,920 Hi, Toby. 224 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,340 Who's this? Blackie. 225 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Blackie, of course. 226 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,600 And that's Baby Angel on top. 227 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,920 How many cats? 228 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Eight. Eight cats. 229 00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:13,860 Okay. So I'm here because of Baby Angel's pee. 230 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,380 Where is she peeing? 231 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Right in front of the litter box on a potty pad. Every day? Mm -hmm. 232 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,180 And then we have a day where she'll hit it twice. 233 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:25,920 Now I'm immediately hearing that Baby Angel's peeing right outside the box. 234 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,020 me, that's a red flag. 235 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,240 There's something about that box that is not safe. 236 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Is that pain, discomfort, the other cats in the house? I'm going to find out. 237 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:36,800 Has she had this problem her whole life? 238 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:40,560 No. Where I previously lived was much bigger. She never peed anywhere. 239 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,060 But then when I moved in here, Baby Angel started to pee everywhere. But 240 00:13:46,460 --> 00:13:49,500 It has the tendency to pee right in front of the litter box on a potty pad. 241 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,179 Every day. 242 00:13:50,180 --> 00:13:54,720 When you go from a bigger space to a smaller space, stuff shakes out 243 00:13:55,340 --> 00:13:56,460 Any other theories? 244 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,960 I met Baby Angel when we became roommates, and there was a lot of stress 245 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,980 change for all the cats. 246 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,240 So I always feel like she's punishing us because she does give me dirty looks. 247 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:11,640 Maybe she just doesn't like that I'm too close to her mom. She gives you dirty 248 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,080 looks. She's trying to punish you. 249 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,600 Her and I have a bond. So baby Angel, when I first saw her as a kitten, she 250 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,880 the hardest one to tame. She was not trusting and very, like... Could you 251 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,320 You couldn't touch her? No. It took a while. I would play with her with the 252 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 toys, and I would give her treats. 253 00:14:30,820 --> 00:14:32,800 So we kind of connected. She trusted me. 254 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:37,540 So it's safe to say that you represent safety. You represent that one human 255 00:14:37,540 --> 00:14:41,860 breakthrough. But now she's six years old. Are you saying that in those six 256 00:14:41,860 --> 00:14:43,720 years, she's never... 257 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,760 trusted anyone to the degree she trusted. Correct. 258 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:51,320 Jacqueline was tasked with acting as Baby Angel's social bridge, and that 259 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,720 relationship continues to flourish through today. 260 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,040 We would like to expand our family and have a child, possibly foster and adopt. 261 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,540 Okay, cool. So that would require us not to have Baby Angel urinating on certain 262 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:08,840 areas of the house. That's a valid concern. Are you holding off even the 263 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,640 process? Really? Until this gets... 264 00:15:14,350 --> 00:15:15,410 Okay, no pressure. 265 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:25,970 Are you holding off even the foster process? 266 00:15:26,610 --> 00:15:32,090 Really, until this gets... Okay, no pressure. 267 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:37,610 So these guys are putting off fostering or adopting a human child because... 268 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,120 of the problem that's going on here and I think it's a smart thing to do because 269 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,980 all you gotta do is bring one more being in this house and things may go kaboom. 270 00:15:46,180 --> 00:15:47,420 Hello, baby angel. 271 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Hi, sweet baby. 272 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,760 It's okay. 273 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,140 When Jacqueline took in baby angel and she spent all of this time with her 274 00:15:57,140 --> 00:16:02,140 getting her to open up, getting her to accept humans, but she stopped with her. 275 00:16:02,260 --> 00:16:05,200 Baby angel, six years old, doesn't trust a single other human besides 276 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,300 Jacqueline. What I would love to do... 277 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,860 Start walking around and let me know about places of importance. 278 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,440 I want to see resources. 279 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,900 I want to see what Angel could possibly be competing over. 280 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:22,040 Okay, so this is a big spot here. Yeah, it's one of her favorites. She pees like 281 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,320 here or here. 282 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:27,040 This is ruining our floors. So this is like raised now. 283 00:16:27,780 --> 00:16:28,780 Okay. 284 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Why haven't you put a litter box here? 285 00:16:32,060 --> 00:16:33,320 Seriously? You never thought of that? 286 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:35,400 Or you just don't want to. 287 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Yeah, I don't want to. 288 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,820 I've been down this block before. You've got enough pee on this wooden floor to 289 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:45,580 lift up the floor, and you didn't think once maybe we should have a box? Of 290 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:46,860 course you did. Come on now. 291 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,020 Where's the litter boxes at? Two litter boxes and one in the office. 292 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,060 Now, eight cats and three litter boxes. 293 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:57,100 Which one? 294 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:03,000 of you guys is much more specific about boxes being in certain places and... 295 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,859 It'd be me. Okay. We don't have any cat to pick on other cats, right? 296 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:12,339 Nobody who... Angel's the only one that literally is, like, yesterday. 297 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,900 Will she block these? Yeah, Bear was in the potty, not doing anything to her, 298 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:20,400 and she was actually right here growling at him. I mean, that's a problem 299 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,140 because we're in a closet. I know. So that means that there's no out. 300 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,620 If someone's in there, that they can be cornered pretty easily. A litter box in 301 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:34,060 a closet, another litter box right outside the closet. So that creates this 302 00:17:34,060 --> 00:17:38,100 bottleneck that Baby Angel just sits in front of and starts hissing at the other 303 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:43,540 cats. There's a lot of information that is kind of fuzzy right now. So I think a 304 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:48,060 lot of your homework is going to be based on defuzzing what's happening 305 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:52,040 The first thing it could possibly be is medical. So that's the first thing we've 306 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,040 got to do is go to the vet. In my experience. 307 00:17:54,570 --> 00:17:59,150 When cats go right outside the litter box, they're letting you know there's 308 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:02,710 something in there I don't like. Meaning she's not going to say it hurts when I 309 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:05,910 pee. She's going to say that place hurts me. My guess is this. 310 00:18:06,170 --> 00:18:10,610 It hurts when she pees. So whether that's a bladder infection, urinary 311 00:18:10,810 --> 00:18:13,450 whether she's got stones, it could be a lot of things. 312 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:18,070 That's why we're sending her to the vet. The second thing it could be is litter 313 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:19,070 box aversion. 314 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,960 So in that respect, you know what your homework is. You know what's coming. 315 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,300 Tell me. More litter boxes? 316 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:28,380 Yeah. Your time's up. 317 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:29,579 You know. 318 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:33,000 Three litter boxes for eight cats is just not enough. 319 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,520 I want to see three more added to the house. All of these things come into 320 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,000 to provide more resources spread out that might be comfortable to a cat who's 321 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,919 avoiding the box. 322 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,300 The boxes should be low, no lids, because if it happens to be competition 323 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,360 resources, there could be ambushing going on. 324 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,640 A lidded litter box often poses a problem because it only presents one 325 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,000 route. So if baby Angel ever felt threatened by another cat while using a 326 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,560 with a lid, she may be too scared to go back there again. 327 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,200 The next piece of homework is to allow the bond. 328 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Devin, clearly you're carrying a little bit of trauma. 329 00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:11,620 Whether it's you saying that she got it out for you, she doesn't like you, she's 330 00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:16,660 jealous. I have heard all of those today and more. They're all projections. 331 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,880 None of it's true. 332 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:22,710 Jacqueline, this is your person here. So I need you to start allowing that bond 333 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:29,590 in terms of allowing Devin to take on the rituals that define that 334 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:33,990 safety. So whether that's feeding, whether that's the touching, whatever 335 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:35,610 rituals are that you have. 336 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:37,620 Let Devin into the club, okay? 337 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,680 I know it's going to be difficult for Baby Angel to learn to trust someone 338 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:46,640 besides Jackie, but it needs to be done, and I'm willing to put the work in, and 339 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,980 I hope that we can come to a place where we can be friends and I can be in the 340 00:19:50,980 --> 00:19:51,980 secret club. 341 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,280 They've been so annoying. 342 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,440 So I'm back in the city of brotherly love with two sisters, Frankie and 343 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,240 who have been at each other's throats. 344 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,980 Hopefully, I'm going to walk in here and Charlie will have regained the shred of 345 00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:17,940 confidence that she had before Frankie beat it out of her. 346 00:20:18,220 --> 00:20:19,400 Tell me how things have been. 347 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:22,260 Combative. Yeah, a little bit. 348 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:26,760 From a two -legged perspective or a four? You never know with you guys. From 349 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,180 four -legged perspective, actually, it's been a little better. We've committed 350 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:30,200 to all elements of the homework. 351 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:33,920 It's funny because I sat down here and I'm like, oh, how are things? And then I 352 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,020 noticed. This. 353 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,540 Oh, you are out of red tape. Oh, yeah, we ran out. 354 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:43,260 The last thing that I wanted to come and see here was an empty red spool of 355 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:47,220 tape. The red tape is for a fight. That means problems for Charlie. 356 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:54,340 And on cue, we have both cats in the room at the same time. 357 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Charlie. Oh, 358 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,980 you've got to be kidding me, Charlie. 359 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,420 Frank. Hold on. 360 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:02,520 In this moment. 361 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,509 Hold on. 362 00:21:04,510 --> 00:21:05,510 Hold on. 363 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:12,910 Frank. Hold on. 364 00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:14,710 In this moment. 365 00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:17,010 Hold on. Hold on. 366 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:18,410 In this moment. 367 00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:20,470 What is this? 368 00:21:21,290 --> 00:21:25,570 What is that? Stay with me now. Is this what we've been seeing? Every day. 369 00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:29,270 But this is what I like, though. Charlie is present. 370 00:21:30,110 --> 00:21:33,770 Charlie didn't go dashing upstairs and there was a fight at the door. That was 371 00:21:33,770 --> 00:21:34,770 lot of noise. 372 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:38,530 But with a little bit of distraction and redirection, there was no contact 373 00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:42,430 whatsoever. And the great news here, Charlie comes right back into the 374 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:44,530 She runs away and then she's like, you know what? No. 375 00:21:44,930 --> 00:21:48,850 This is my room too. What I'd like to do is take a look at your video homework. 376 00:21:49,230 --> 00:21:50,230 Let's get that out of here. 377 00:21:51,970 --> 00:21:56,700 Bring it in. So much energy. I think she tires out after maybe 45 minutes to an 378 00:21:56,700 --> 00:22:00,480 hour. I wish I had that kind of stamina. I don't. The only thing I do 45 minutes 379 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,480 to an hour is sit. 380 00:22:03,380 --> 00:22:07,600 Number one, you're absolutely not playing as hard as you need to. Number 381 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:11,560 you're not playing smart either. If you're playing smart and hard with your 382 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,860 20 minutes max. Even a cat like Frankie. 383 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:21,860 So, we have a whole bunch of X's for Hunt or Where Fights Happen. 384 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,680 What patterns do you think? Charlie likes to be up. 385 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,600 Charlie likes the perimeter. We realize she hides around the edges, which 386 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,980 Frankie enjoys being in the middle of things. And she is willing to defend 387 00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:36,900 and only permits Charlie just on the outside of the room. 388 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,780 Okay. The middle of the room is the promised land. 389 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,760 Everything has to happen here for Charlie, and if it doesn't, she's going 390 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,100 always be reminded that there's safety in the walls. 391 00:22:46,340 --> 00:22:50,420 No more. We have one big hang spot for Charlie right here. 392 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,120 And again, there are no hang spots that I can tell that are on the floor. 393 00:22:56,380 --> 00:22:59,680 She hides on the floor, but she doesn't hang out. Hides on the floor, hangs in 394 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,579 the air. 395 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:03,800 That's exactly, that's a breakthrough for us. What I thought was initially a 396 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,640 hide spot really is a confidence spot for Charlie, and that involves height. 397 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,120 was refreshing to see Jackson's take on it because it just really brought to the 398 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,020 surface that Charlie really doesn't like hiding. 399 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,120 She likes hanging out above everything, above the swinging paws of Frankie. 400 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:20,380 We've got... 401 00:23:20,590 --> 00:23:23,050 An amazing bit of information. 402 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:27,530 The evidence is overwhelming in this house. Now I need to hang out with 403 00:23:27,530 --> 00:23:31,410 to get that missing piece of the puzzle. We just keep pushing her a little bit. 404 00:23:31,470 --> 00:23:34,730 So what I want is for her to come in here. Liz, can you use your voice again, 405 00:23:34,750 --> 00:23:35,750 please? Charlie. 406 00:23:36,590 --> 00:23:37,750 Charlie girl, come here, Mama. 407 00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:41,590 Hi, Charlie. 408 00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:47,410 There she comes. There she comes. Come here, baby. 409 00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:48,630 There she is. 410 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:50,890 There's my baby girl. 411 00:23:51,170 --> 00:23:56,270 With Frankie put away, Charlie sees that. She sees me not as a threat. She 412 00:23:56,270 --> 00:24:00,330 this as a normal environment where she can come out and hang. Being herself a 413 00:24:00,330 --> 00:24:04,850 little bit, being confident, that's all I want. Good girl. And up on the table. 414 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:05,949 Good girlie. 415 00:24:05,950 --> 00:24:08,990 The play therapy homework has really improved her confidence. 416 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:12,990 This should be a cause of celebration, not just for me, but for Liz and Andrew. 417 00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:15,110 So now homework, Andrew. 418 00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:19,030 It is essential that we wear Frankie out during play. 419 00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:23,030 So I want to teach you the play technique called boil and simmer. Now, 420 00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:27,130 obviously, with Frankie, it's a piece of cake. You got her running around, get 421 00:24:27,130 --> 00:24:32,750 her crazy, let her simmer. Bring her back up about two, three minutes later, 422 00:24:32,750 --> 00:24:36,890 her simmer. That whole process should be 20 minutes. I can get behind that. And 423 00:24:36,890 --> 00:24:41,010 that'll also work for Charlie as well. We need to fortify her confidence. 424 00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:45,070 So for her, playtime has to always culminate. 425 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,060 in the middle of the room. We're basically going to just outlaw the 426 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,340 Play happens in the middle of the room. We're building confidence by making this 427 00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:57,560 the promised land. I'd like you to get a special pet gate where they can see 428 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,080 each other but not get to one another. 429 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:03,260 And that way, when we're going to time out Frankie, Charlie owns the whole 430 00:25:03,260 --> 00:25:06,680 and she gets to see Frankie in a way that's not chasing her. 431 00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:10,860 Also, in terms of fortifying confidence, is catifying for confidence. 432 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:13,720 We know all of the hang spots are up. 433 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,760 All of the hide spots are down. 434 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,540 Got to encourage her up. We're going to work on cat superhighways. 435 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:25,140 Charlie is a bigger cat when she's up in the vertical world. So Charlie's got to 436 00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:27,620 have a brand -new world, and it's got to be up off the ground. We're going to 437 00:25:27,620 --> 00:25:31,360 make sure that we're blocking under so we can say, no, Charlie, you don't want 438 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:34,440 to live against the walls and under the stairs. You want to live up on your 439 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,500 purchase, but we've got to make those purchase destinations or it's never 440 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,340 to work. The other thing that I want you to do... 441 00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:44,930 I want you to pick up all of the X's and I want you to start again. Because 442 00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:48,770 you're going to see all the places that you've got to sort of fortify as you go 443 00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:52,690 along in order to get us to that promised land of group play. 444 00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:54,570 Okay? Keep it up. 445 00:25:55,030 --> 00:26:00,230 It's a lot of work to follow the homework and do everything we can to 446 00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:01,230 Charlie's confidence. 447 00:26:01,490 --> 00:26:06,190 It's up to me and Andrew to help Charlie get where he needs to be. We're going 448 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:09,270 to try really hard, but I'm not a thousand percent sure that... 449 00:26:10,429 --> 00:26:13,070 She's going to do it? We're going to find out. Yeah. 450 00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:19,310 Baby angel, eat on her. 451 00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:30,750 I'm back for my next visit with Devin and Jacqueline and their cat baby angel. 452 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:35,440 Last time I was here, Baby Angel was struggling to carve out a spot among 453 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,360 other cats to call her own, and because of that, the place was turning into a 454 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,420 litter box. Now, before these guys could bring in a human baby, they have got to 455 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:45,420 work out this problem, so I really hope they did. 456 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,040 Look at this. 457 00:26:48,380 --> 00:26:49,380 Hi, honey. 458 00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:50,820 Aw, hi. 459 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:55,800 Honestly, the last time I was here, Baby Angel was crammed into a corner under 460 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,980 the window. Now she's on the couch, sitting right next to Devin while she 461 00:26:59,980 --> 00:27:03,850 her. That means work got done around here. We've been working really hard. 462 00:27:03,850 --> 00:27:08,250 have clearly been working really hard. But she has to do it in her own way. So 463 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:11,970 before we get into any of that, let's start looking at your video homework. 464 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:13,450 Angel. 465 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:15,630 Look what we've got. 466 00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:20,070 She's going to get her blood work done and also a urine test. 467 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:21,650 Make sure she's fine. 468 00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:25,070 So the blood work and everything, you said everything was pending. 469 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Where are we at with that? So she has the start of crystals. So what that 470 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240 is she doesn't drink enough water. 471 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,940 Yep. For baby Angel having crystals in her bladder, well, those crystals have 472 00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:39,620 go somewhere. And if she pees them out, they're going to hurt. And that could be 473 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:40,660 why she's been avoiding the box. 474 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,900 Wet food will help keep pumping those fluids through baby Angel to keep her 475 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:48,060 bladder and her kidneys healthy. I mean, I think bottom line, we got a lab 476 00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:52,760 result back that explains why she's going right outside that litter box. It 477 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,380 It's starting to become painful, so it's great that we caught that. 478 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,660 I get to deliver all things good, which right now is food. 479 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,079 Hi, Mama. 480 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,100 Do you want some food? 481 00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:02,620 Mmm. 482 00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:04,180 There you go. 483 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Breakfast in bed. 484 00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:09,080 Dinner. Breakfast in bed, man. 485 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:12,100 Can I pet you from over here? Can I pet you? 486 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,320 There you go. 487 00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:16,320 Aw. Yeah. 488 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:19,960 Look at her right now. That is a big change for this cat. 489 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,860 That has to, I mean, for you, because there was that whole thing about sort of 490 00:28:24,860 --> 00:28:26,500 you had this special relationship with her. 491 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,140 Is it a good feeling? 492 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,299 It's a great feeling. 493 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,080 To watch this? Yeah, because I want her to feel secure and safe. 494 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,280 And I told them I want to show you guys off. 495 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,080 It is symbolic in a way. 496 00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:41,650 making a family, making a home, you know? I think Jacqueline did a great 497 00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:45,710 It's really hard to release a special relationship that you have with 498 00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:50,310 and she did that for the sake of unifying her family. And she was also a 499 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:57,170 good coach. More litter boxes. So this is the same area where baby Angel has 500 00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:58,690 been peeing in the past. 501 00:29:00,230 --> 00:29:01,230 There we go. 502 00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:04,710 Yay, Angel. There it is. 503 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,020 Right in there. So we're putting new box number two out. Pretty clear so nobody 504 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:11,020 can be trapped. 505 00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:14,420 Good. There's still a lid on top. 506 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Uh -oh. 507 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,920 Caught her in the act. In the act. Is she still continuing to pee outside the 508 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,920 box every day? 509 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Yes. 510 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,700 So that's a problem. 511 00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:38,530 More litter books. Homework number two. 512 00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,150 There's still a lid on top. 513 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:44,110 Uh -oh. 514 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:48,410 Caught her in the act. In the act. 515 00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:52,250 Is she still continuing to pee outside the box every day? 516 00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:53,930 Yes. 517 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:56,490 So, that's a problem. 518 00:29:56,910 --> 00:30:01,590 Well, there have been a couple days she did not. The only place she's peeing is 519 00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:03,270 on that one potty pad in the office. 520 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:06,070 So, that is still... 521 00:30:06,270 --> 00:30:09,830 From what I can tell, the only box with a lid on it in the house. We still got a 522 00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:13,510 problem here, but we have a problem because somebody didn't listen to their 523 00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:17,210 homework. That lid was supposed to come off, and I bet you when it does, we're 524 00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:18,210 not going to have a problem. 525 00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:22,550 So since I left, she literally was peeing everywhere. 526 00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:28,590 At this point, we're down to that pad outside the box? Hell yeah. 527 00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:29,850 Yeah. 528 00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:31,850 Just take a second here. 529 00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:36,800 Almost everything that we were hoping for in terms of the things that were 530 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,920 really affecting her were right on. I couldn't be more impressed with 531 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,780 and Devin. I mean, it shows that they were very serious about solving the 532 00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:48,480 problem. But there's still some things about this place that are bothering me. 533 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,580 And I just want to walk around, see if I can tweak what the couple has done 534 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:57,820 here. So now, last time I was here, this was that sort of traffic jammy area. 535 00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:01,500 It still is. I would really encourage you guys. 536 00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:03,200 to continue to spread. 537 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,880 This, to me, is sort of a territorial bottleneck. Now, Baby Angel is doing 538 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,760 fantastic. She's not picking fights with the other cats, but with a bottleneck 539 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,120 like this, you're asking for it down the line. I want to make sure that I'm 540 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,440 setting these guys up for success in the future. We're still seeing pee happen 541 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,700 here every other day, something like that. 542 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,420 We were seeing pee twice a day, every day. Yeah. Okay, so we are 100 % getting 543 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:29,420 somewhere. 544 00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:33,910 But I want you to stop thinking about human convenience here because for your 545 00:31:33,910 --> 00:31:34,910 cat, there's no out. 546 00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:37,930 If any cat's in there, they can be cornered pretty easily. 547 00:31:39,650 --> 00:31:41,870 I'll leave with this. This is coming with me. 548 00:31:42,430 --> 00:31:47,610 It's like collecting trophies. The most important thing I can say about that lid 549 00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:50,070 is the cat is still peeing there. 550 00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:54,710 So try everything, whether it's getting rid of the lid, getting rid of the pee 551 00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:59,590 pads next to the box. There's one place left that she's peeing. It's now just a 552 00:31:59,590 --> 00:32:00,610 matter of deductive reasoning. 553 00:32:00,950 --> 00:32:06,790 So I feel like you guys have accomplished a tremendous amount. I got 554 00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:11,650 worked for this. You guys put together a home with a family, and it works 555 00:32:11,650 --> 00:32:13,510 really, really well. 556 00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:14,990 We're a pretty good team. Yeah. 557 00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:17,150 Now maybe the two -legged family. 558 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,240 I mean, that is, after all, why I came here. On top of all this, you guys 559 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,420 were wanting to get into fostering and possibly adopting a child. 560 00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:32,700 How do you feel about moving forward with that? I think we're now to that 561 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:33,700 where we can start. 562 00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:35,039 Thinking about that. 563 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,180 I mean, listen, if you can make room for eight cats in this house and have 564 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:42,320 peace, adding a child to it, hey, listen, I hope it goes well for you 565 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,000 But I think it will. I mean, this is a wonderful home. You guys have a great 566 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,480 family. All of Jackson's support and help with Baby Angel has given us 567 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,240 confidence. We can face challenges together. 568 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,280 Moving forward through fostering or adopting a child, we can really build a 569 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,460 peaceful and loving household. 570 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:12,080 I'm in Clarksville, Tennessee to meet up with Robert and Maggie, their daughter 571 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,580 Sarah, and their space cat, Artemis. Now, Artemis has been a best friend to 572 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:20,380 Sarah since they adopted her, but she's also helped Sarah in ways that have 573 00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:21,920 surprised just about everyone. 574 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:25,560 Of course, for me, it's just another day at the office with a heavenly cat. 575 00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:27,959 Well, hey. 576 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Hi. You must be Sarah. 577 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:32,060 Good to meet you, Sarah. How are you? Good. 578 00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:35,540 Good. Hey, man, how are you? Doing wonderful. Jackson. Hi. 579 00:33:35,790 --> 00:33:39,010 Hey, and you have to be Maggie, wouldn't you? I'm Maggie, and this is my 580 00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:42,650 daughter, Sarah, and her best friend, Artemis. Hi, Artemis. 581 00:33:43,030 --> 00:33:46,090 Hi. What a gorgeous girl she is. 582 00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:48,710 We adopted Artemis in 2014. 583 00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:51,950 She came from a hoarding situation that happened here locally. 584 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:56,610 There was about 30 cats that was going to be delivered to the animal shelter. 585 00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:58,210 There were a lot that didn't survive. 586 00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:02,310 They were adopted out. Oh, really bad, bad. Yeah. Because nobody took care of 587 00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:04,310 them. Yeah. She had never been held. 588 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,799 Oh, really? 589 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,380 Or she hasn't touched a step out of her cage ever in her life. Are you kidding 590 00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:13,880 me? She was in a cage her whole life? 591 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:16,440 That is the saddest thing ever. 592 00:34:16,659 --> 00:34:20,840 So then when you brought her home, was she scared when she first got here? She 593 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,040 was. She snuggled right up to Sarah, though. That was her comfort. 594 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,880 The really sad thing is that she spent her first six months of life never 595 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,380 stepping foot out of a cage. 596 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,830 As soon as Artemis... We got into this home. She just glommed on to Sarah. She 597 00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:38,170 said, you are my person. And that was the start of a beautiful friendship. 598 00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:42,150 When we got Artemis, Sarah could say maybe five or six words. 599 00:34:42,429 --> 00:34:46,210 The doctor said that I would never talk again because that's when I couldn't 600 00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:50,190 talk. Yeah, the doctor just said she would probably always be a late bloomer. 601 00:34:50,469 --> 00:34:52,330 She made me have voice. 602 00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:54,989 She gave Sarah her voice. 603 00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:56,830 I love Artemis. 604 00:34:57,810 --> 00:34:59,510 And I'm going to vet school. 605 00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:01,230 Are you really? 606 00:35:01,870 --> 00:35:06,410 Now, you know how happy that makes me? We need people like you to be vets for 607 00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:10,530 sure. We explain that to go to veterinary school, you have to be able 608 00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:15,570 So we tell Sarah that she has to read to Artemis so she can go to vet school 609 00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:17,690 someday. And Sarah took it very seriously. 610 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:22,190 According to Maggie and Robert, there's no way that Sarah would have caught up, 611 00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:26,290 that she would have had the desire to learn or to become more verbal. She just 612 00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:27,610 didn't have that connection with other kids. 613 00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:31,050 But because she had that connection with Artemis, she came around. 614 00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:34,250 Sarah is now reading in a way that she just couldn't before. 615 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:35,950 You mind if we do a little bit of reading? 616 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:40,510 Artemis meets this little girl immediately. She's like, I have a 617 00:35:40,750 --> 00:35:41,750 Pretty amazing. 618 00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:46,930 I don't think anybody could have seen the change that Artemis had with Sarah. 619 00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:50,010 That's not something that I've even read about. 620 00:35:50,510 --> 00:35:56,070 There are days I come home from work and I will see Sarah plop down reading to 621 00:35:56,070 --> 00:36:00,530 Artemis. Seeing her do that, it renders me speechless. 622 00:36:01,330 --> 00:36:08,110 The way 623 00:36:08,110 --> 00:36:12,650 that she's motivated her and changed things around, I think it was just that 624 00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:13,650 missing piece. 625 00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:21,550 Artemis has brought Sarah a purpose because she's got something to bring to 626 00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:22,990 animals. She's going to help cure. 627 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:24,950 She's going to help keep cats alive. 628 00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:27,150 Thank you so much for letting me in. 629 00:36:27,730 --> 00:36:28,709 All right. 630 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:29,770 Bye. Bye. 631 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:35,810 I am just walking on air right about now. I mean, Sarah and Artemis, both 632 00:36:35,810 --> 00:36:39,310 significant challenges in their life early on, meet each other and find the 633 00:36:39,310 --> 00:36:43,450 courage to rise above those challenges. And no matter how many times I see this, 634 00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:47,930 it never gets old. Children and animals forge a bond that is so deep, us 635 00:36:47,930 --> 00:36:49,350 grownups will never get it. 636 00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:54,690 They've been so... 637 00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:57,030 Annoying. 638 00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:07,830 I'm back for my third visit with Andrew and Liz and their cats, Frankie and 639 00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:12,250 Charlie. And last time I was here, Frankie was still completely torturing 640 00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:13,250 Charlie. 641 00:37:13,850 --> 00:37:19,830 Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm hoping that their homework helped fortify what 642 00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:23,510 confidence Charlie had to begin with so that she could live the life that she 643 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:24,510 really deserves. 644 00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:25,730 How's life? 645 00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:32,110 Better. But there are a few red X's by the stairwell. 646 00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:33,690 That's a problem. 647 00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:42,310 How's life? 648 00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:49,150 Better. But there are a few red X's by the stairwell. Two or three. Oh, one, 649 00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:51,450 two, three. But there are more green X's. 650 00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:52,569 than ever before. 651 00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:56,050 The green tape is for where they hang, and that's to say where's the confident 652 00:37:56,050 --> 00:38:00,330 where, especially for Charlie. The last time I was here, there was not a shred 653 00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:04,590 of red left on your roll. You had run out of red, and now you're running out 654 00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,630 green. If we needed any indication that things were heading in the right 655 00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:13,190 direction in here, that's it. Looking around and seeing green Xs versus red 656 00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:17,390 I know that there's more resting than there is fighting going on in this 657 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:19,210 That means that the homework worked. 658 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840 Hello. Hello. 659 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,180 Yep. Look at this, man. Immediately, I'm seeing catification. And I mean, really 660 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:29,260 solid work. 661 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,800 Nice. 662 00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:35,160 Here you 663 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:42,020 have this moment where, right 664 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:48,480 there, where she went from wild animal to this, which is just ho -hum. 665 00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:54,130 This is that moment where she realizes that the red dot is not something she's 666 00:38:54,130 --> 00:38:55,069 going to be able to kill. 667 00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:59,410 This is where you bring out the actual toy that she can kill. Andrew still has 668 00:38:59,410 --> 00:39:02,870 lot to learn when it comes to boil and simmer. He's got the boil part down, but 669 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:04,690 the simmer, not so much. 670 00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:06,150 You like that stuff? 671 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:07,630 Yeah, you do. 672 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:11,910 How long did it take her to... No time at all. So that... 673 00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:15,850 It helps to prove our point that this is our little tree dweller, right? 674 00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:19,570 Watching this homework, I mean, my wildest dream was that I would come back 675 00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:23,910 Charlie would be walking around the walls as if she was walking on the 676 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:28,130 not better. And that's what I'm seeing. She is a tree dweller, and now she has 677 00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:30,370 treetops to roam. We just had a feeding. 678 00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:33,810 where I tried to put a food bowl down in the middle of the floor, and Charlie 679 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:37,710 was not taking. Charlie was still meandering around the outside, and 680 00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:42,190 about her escape plan. So I moved the bowl a little closer to a different part 681 00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:45,710 of the room that she likes, and Charlie took it, and they both started eating 682 00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:50,130 next to each other. To see Charlie eat that close to Frankie, and not just eat 683 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:54,590 next to her, but posture up just a little bit, that's our girl just 684 00:39:54,590 --> 00:39:56,950 grow some muscles, man. She's getting strong. 685 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,420 So, Merry Christmas, everybody. 686 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,220 Okay, Liz is already opening the boxes. 687 00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:05,080 Look at this pet gate. 688 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,920 All right, baby. 689 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:08,460 That's really cool. 690 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:14,260 This body language of Charlie being in control of the situation. 691 00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:20,120 It was this wonderful sort of like, wait a minute, I can watch all of this and I 692 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,220 don't have to worry that I'm going to be chased, you know? 693 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,970 Based on everything I saw in homework, I think that we need to... Push another 694 00:40:26,970 --> 00:40:27,970 challenge line here. 695 00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:31,350 We do feel confident having the two cats play together. 696 00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:34,810 I think we can do it. You, my little love. 697 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,740 Do you think I can get you back up here? What do you think? Right now, the 698 00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:43,560 exercise that I have in mind is something where Charlie is occupied to a 699 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,000 where she can be absolutely confident in the space as she has been. At the same 700 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,260 time, Frankie's coming down the stairs, entering the space, playing, following 701 00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:57,280 treats, whatever Andrew has, so that they can both be occupied on a task. 702 00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:01,540 And not each other. And of course, Frankie cannot chase Charlie. Use it on 703 00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:04,020 floor. Guide it around. You know how to make her go, man. 704 00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:05,300 Guide, guide, guide. 705 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,260 Here. Take a few of these. 706 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680 And when all else fails, I want you to plant it where you want her to be. 707 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,220 Let her see you do it. Frank. 708 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:14,580 There you go. 709 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800 Nice going. 710 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,800 Keep Frankie going. 711 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,460 Come on, baby. Right up here. 712 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,880 There it is. 713 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,340 Now that's exactly what I wanted. We have got Charlie up. 714 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,840 Frankie down. 715 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,160 This is a brave vertical cat, and this is an occupied floor cat. 716 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,320 Very, very nice. The end goal here was an ability to share space without 717 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,100 being a constant target and for Charlie to have the mojo it takes to live in a 718 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:46,220 house with Frankie. I'm seeing both of those things come to fruition right now. 719 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,760 It's a big, big change. 720 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,300 All right, guys. Take care of yourself. Thank you. 721 00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:52,480 Bye -bye. Bye -bye. Hug it out with me, buddy. 722 00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:58,230 When Jackson first came, Charlie was nowhere to be found, and now it's a 723 00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:58,968 and day difference. 724 00:41:58,970 --> 00:42:05,390 And if not for Jackson's expertise and perspective and experience, our lives, 725 00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:08,890 cat's lives, would not have made such a dramatic turnaround. 62697

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