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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,900 He's our baby, but he's a bully. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,480 We just heard a hiss. Yeah. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,920 What is it that you're doing? 4 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:11,140 We could be dealing with territorial aggression. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,240 What are you doing? 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,320 Looks sexual to me. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,720 Daisy's causing Cooper a lot of stress. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,160 She would push him out of the way and finish his... 9 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:25,620 He's afraid of her. Cooper just recently got diagnosed with early kidney 10 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:30,720 disease. In like two years, he went from 11 pounds, 6 ounces to 8 pounds. 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,119 Is he eating? 12 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:33,120 No. 13 00:00:33,980 --> 00:00:35,280 This looks like fun. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,460 That's Max, I assume. That is Max. It's hard to miss him. Max is part of the 15 00:00:39,460 --> 00:00:41,720 reading program at the Lake Bluff Library. 16 00:00:41,940 --> 00:00:46,380 The goal of this program is to encourage kids to read and also encourage kids 17 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:47,580 that might struggle reading. 18 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:49,180 Whoa! 19 00:00:50,209 --> 00:00:51,770 Holy! I'm Jackson Galaxy. 20 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:53,010 What the hell, man? 21 00:00:53,250 --> 00:00:58,050 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 22 00:00:58,050 --> 00:01:00,950 cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have her. 23 00:01:01,190 --> 00:01:02,190 Damn. 24 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:07,190 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 25 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:08,310 my help. This is fun. 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,120 I'm John. This is my wife, Mary. 27 00:01:22,460 --> 00:01:24,100 We have four resident cats. 28 00:01:24,380 --> 00:01:27,880 Baby, Lily, Mabel, and Ginger. 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,700 Also, we have foster kittens, and we have one long -term foster. 30 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:33,900 Great. 31 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:35,600 Baby is a sweetheart. 32 00:01:35,980 --> 00:01:36,980 He's just friendly. 33 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:42,200 He greets you. He's very affectionate. He's our baby, but he's a bully. 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,740 Baby usually never attacks. 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,560 The cat's right in front of us. It's something that we hear, and then we 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,298 to it. 37 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:55,860 Baby, what did you do? 38 00:01:56,540 --> 00:02:01,600 We have done things like isolating, keeping one cat in one room. 39 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:03,180 We also put a bell on his collar. 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,080 For a little while, we thought that was working, but not so much. 41 00:02:08,539 --> 00:02:12,900 Baby has a fixation on our adult female cats. 42 00:02:13,540 --> 00:02:16,480 Once they're about a year old, he starts chasing them. 43 00:02:17,269 --> 00:02:19,850 laying on them, biting them, hurting them. 44 00:02:20,310 --> 00:02:21,670 I've always said it's sexual. 45 00:02:22,050 --> 00:02:23,550 It looks sexual to me. 46 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:26,110 What are you doing? 47 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:29,930 It's not fair for the other cats. You know, we're kind of putting them in that 48 00:02:29,930 --> 00:02:33,010 situation, and I think it's not a good life in that sense. 49 00:02:34,330 --> 00:02:35,330 She's afraid of you. 50 00:02:36,050 --> 00:02:39,250 My biggest fear is this long -term foster that we have, Grace. She has 51 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:42,530 needs, and we need to keep her until she's about a year old, which is about 52 00:02:42,530 --> 00:02:44,410 age that he starts attacking our other cats. 53 00:02:44,650 --> 00:02:47,610 If Grace gets hurt, we won't be able to forgive ourselves. 54 00:02:48,230 --> 00:02:51,670 If Jackson can't help us, we just don't know what to do because there's just too 55 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:54,610 much abuse and suffering going on with these cats. 56 00:03:08,130 --> 00:03:10,410 Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm Jackson. 57 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:11,990 John. Nice to meet you. I'm Mary. 58 00:03:12,230 --> 00:03:13,630 Mary, good to meet you guys. 59 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:15,850 I know we've got cat problems. 60 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:18,150 Yes, we do. We've got multiple cats. 61 00:03:18,450 --> 00:03:21,250 Yes. And I also know we've got kittens in the house somewhere. 62 00:03:22,030 --> 00:03:24,770 You're fostering, right? We are. We're fostering. Do you foster all the time? 63 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:30,530 Yeah, it's like a little revolving kitten door. And Baby is preying on the 64 00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:34,650 kittens? No. We've seen so many kittens come in and out of our house, and Baby's 65 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:38,030 reaction, he could care less, that we feel very comfortable having kittens 66 00:03:38,030 --> 00:03:40,530 around. Now, I don't see Baby. 67 00:03:40,990 --> 00:03:44,370 With that said, baby not being here, can we go hang with kittens? Yes. I would 68 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:48,590 love to see some kittens. There's nothing wrong in my line of work with 69 00:03:48,590 --> 00:03:52,870 business and pleasure. So I'm here to help baby, here to help John and Mary. 70 00:03:52,870 --> 00:03:53,970 also here to get a kitten fix. 71 00:03:54,510 --> 00:03:55,510 Kitten land. 72 00:03:55,730 --> 00:03:57,150 Hello, my little one. 73 00:03:58,090 --> 00:04:01,410 This one is just calling my name, so I'm just going to hang here. He was brought 74 00:04:01,410 --> 00:04:02,850 in a couple of weeks ago. 75 00:04:03,090 --> 00:04:06,810 He was such a little baby that they put her in a kennel with another. 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,700 full -grown cat, and she tried to nurse off of the cat. 77 00:04:10,540 --> 00:04:14,400 And somebody wanted to adopt her, but she just wasn't old enough, so she 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,059 a foster. 79 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:18,540 I started fostering maybe a year and a half or two years ago. For me to go into 80 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:23,680 a shelter and see little baby kittens that need a foster or the worst might 81 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,500 happen, I was very quick to volunteer to foster. 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,460 So I think we've had about 30 kittens come through our house and find homes. 83 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:33,880 Let's unfortunately start talking about the trouble in paradise here. 84 00:04:35,660 --> 00:04:40,220 In your opinion, it has nothing to do with the fact that you've got six little 85 00:04:40,220 --> 00:04:41,260 kittens right now? 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,480 So is this as many as you would get at one time? We don't like to do more than 87 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,180 five or six. We like to do really two or three at a time. Right. 88 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:53,340 So knowing that you have five or six in the house, his behavior hasn't changed 89 00:04:53,340 --> 00:04:56,740 at all? No. Baby, you can't get into the kitten room. Okay. 90 00:04:57,340 --> 00:05:00,900 Usually foster kittens that are too young to be vaccinated are kept 91 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:05,200 from the older cats to help protect their sensitive immune systems. In this 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,520 case, it's also keeping them safe from baby, which is such a relief. 93 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,410 The first glimpse that things were not... All good with baby was when? 94 00:05:14,690 --> 00:05:19,610 When Lily became about a year old, he started chasing her and putting all his 95 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:20,930 weight on her and biting her neck. 96 00:05:21,210 --> 00:05:25,270 Did he follow through from there? Did he hump her? No, he didn't know what to 97 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:30,070 do. He would just jump on her, lay down on her, and bite her neck. And she would 98 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:32,810 just be helpless because she was about half the size of him. 99 00:05:33,030 --> 00:05:34,890 Do you usually have to come break it up? 100 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:37,710 We'll run towards the spot where we hear it. 101 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:41,950 He automatically kind of like knows, and you'll see him just kind of run by us. 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,400 If we ever get close enough, we're yelling on the way there. We're like, 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,460 baby, you know, as we're walking towards him. 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,900 So I haven't even gotten close to, you know, him still actually doing it. I've 105 00:05:53,900 --> 00:05:55,360 seen it when they didn't know I was there. 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,160 We hear it. We don't see it. So we don't really know what's going on. He started 107 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,640 doing it to Mabel once she grew up. And now we have Grace. 108 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,300 Grace is our long -term foster. 109 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:11,120 She was thrown from a moving car, and she can't run very well, and she can't 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,880 jump very well, and she can't see very well. 111 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:19,160 She's about seven months old, so she's going to be of age soon where Baby 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,380 preying on her. That's where we draw the line, and that's why we called you. 113 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:27,260 Baby hasn't gone for her yet. He hasn't. If he does, we have a big problem. We 114 00:06:27,260 --> 00:06:30,060 have a big problem. Huge, huge problem. She can't get away. 115 00:06:30,980 --> 00:06:33,060 There's clearly a reason that Baby goes after Kat. 116 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:35,860 Okay, and he's not going after kittens, okay. 117 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,960 But it's not like he's sitting there waiting for their first birthday to 118 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,699 on them. 119 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,320 Something else has to be at play here. 120 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,940 Normally, with mounting behavior, it's a pseudo -sexual behavior, but obviously 121 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:49,600 he's neutered, right? 122 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:52,380 Yes. How old was he when he got neutered, normally? 123 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,680 He was about four or five months. 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,140 Okay, so that knocks that out. 125 00:06:56,620 --> 00:07:00,780 But there's always a chance that maybe he could be... 126 00:07:01,020 --> 00:07:05,880 Crypt orchid. Crypt orchid is that one of his testicles never descended. He may 127 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,140 have a testicle up in his abdomen, so he's going to act like an intact male 128 00:07:10,140 --> 00:07:14,140 because he still possibly has some trace of hormones going through his system. 129 00:07:14,260 --> 00:07:19,180 And that's something that only a vet can tell us. So if I didn't show up here, 130 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,700 what would that look like? If he started to prey on Grace, what happens? 131 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,880 My heart would be broken if he did anything to hurt her. I mean, she can't 132 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:28,880 defend herself. 133 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,160 For a baby to do anything to raise. I think it would have been, you would have 134 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,020 had to give her to somebody else. It would have been forced, basically, that. 135 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Give him or give her? No, give her. 136 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:39,740 Who goes to another home? 137 00:07:39,980 --> 00:07:43,400 Well, you know, a friend of mine loves babies. 138 00:07:43,940 --> 00:07:49,360 She's our pet sitter, and she's thinking about adopting a cat. I think, well, 139 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,660 maybe that's the solution is giving my friend a baby. I think that would be 140 00:07:53,660 --> 00:07:54,680 something we would consider. 141 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:56,640 What's your reaction to that? I mean. 142 00:08:08,499 --> 00:08:12,900 What would it mean if you had to get baby rehomed? 143 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,600 I mean... For 144 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,120 me, it's not a 145 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,000 good solution. 146 00:08:26,490 --> 00:08:29,070 It's not something that I would be interested in doing. 147 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:32,770 I don't know if we're dealing with aggression that's bad enough that we 148 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:36,730 think about rehoming a cat, but I know that Mary's thinking about it and John 149 00:08:36,730 --> 00:08:39,909 has thought about it, so it has to be that bad. I think it's time to leave 150 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:45,690 kitten land for the time being and go and say hi to the rest of the cats in 151 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:46,649 house, okay? 152 00:08:46,650 --> 00:08:47,650 Let's go. 153 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:49,150 Hello, baby boy. 154 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:51,570 Hello, baby boy. 155 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:54,270 Baby's just sitting there in the middle of everything. 156 00:08:54,530 --> 00:08:55,530 Hello, my friend. 157 00:08:56,010 --> 00:08:59,210 He takes all the petting I can dish out. He doesn't seem to be getting 158 00:08:59,210 --> 00:09:02,530 overstimulated. He seems to be a very social cat. 159 00:09:02,890 --> 00:09:03,890 Very, yeah. 160 00:09:03,950 --> 00:09:08,450 He's a very social boy. He loves being the center of attention, but not seeing 161 00:09:08,450 --> 00:09:14,270 any signs of territorial insecurity from him. It is a weird dichotomy that you 162 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:20,730 have this absolute sweetheart who then turns into making 163 00:09:20,730 --> 00:09:22,150 everyone's life miserable. 164 00:09:23,210 --> 00:09:25,530 John and Mary don't have all the facts. 165 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:29,140 when it comes to baby and his attacks, and I haven't seen any of the bad 166 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:33,160 behavior myself, so I really need to gather more clues so I can get to the 167 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,160 of the problem. 168 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:41,280 So, guys, we didn't see the other four cats in this house. I only saw one cat. 169 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:45,620 Yeah, they tended to hide in the bathroom or in the closet because of 170 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:48,960 That's obviously not healthy for anybody, right? 171 00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:52,840 I also think there's a lot of assumptions being made without proper 172 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,840 evidence. 173 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,740 I can't offer up a behavioral diagnosis right now because I haven't seen cats 174 00:09:58,740 --> 00:10:02,780 together, so I can gauge their behavior around one another. So I need to draw 175 00:10:02,780 --> 00:10:07,640 out information, and that's going to be their homework. With baby, we could be 176 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,640 dealing with play aggression. 177 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:10,960 We could be dealing with territorial aggression. 178 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,120 There's a lot we don't know. This leads me to the homework. 179 00:10:14,340 --> 00:10:15,340 Detective work. 180 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,960 I'm going to leave you with some cameras. 181 00:10:17,340 --> 00:10:21,080 And we are going to see the comings and goings. Having video surveillance is 182 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,880 going to get me all the information I need visually. 183 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,300 The second part of this homework is going to the vet. 184 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,120 I'd like your vet to check for testosterone levels in the blood. Any 185 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,700 testosterone is going to tell us something. I'm secretly excited that it 186 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:39,560 be that easy, that we take the baby to the vet, have a blood test, get an exam, 187 00:10:39,740 --> 00:10:43,700 and we find out that's the situation, but not getting our hopes up. 188 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,820 Goodbye, buddy boy. We will be talking very soon. 189 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:49,040 I'm going to bank on it. Bye. 190 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:50,260 Thank you. 191 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,740 Hi, my name is Kira. I have two cats, Cooper and Daisy. Cooper and Daisy are 192 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:01,560 litter mates. When they were little, they would sleep in a big pile, like a 193 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,080 kitten pile, and it was amazing. 194 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,680 Now, they seem to not get along. 195 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:12,600 A couple months ago, Cooper was diagnosed with early -stage kidney 196 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,600 for some reason. 197 00:11:14,010 --> 00:11:15,570 Daisy's become a real bully. 198 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:19,970 She would push him out of the way and finish his food. 199 00:11:20,430 --> 00:11:21,409 Daisy, no. 200 00:11:21,410 --> 00:11:22,810 She picks on Cooper. 201 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:29,410 She will take a swipe at him as she walks by, and he's afraid of her. 202 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:35,930 It's not just the fighting thing. I also love to destroy my furniture. 203 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:41,850 Curtains shredded, throw pillows shredded, sofa clawed, box spring 204 00:11:41,850 --> 00:11:42,850 anything. 205 00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:47,570 Fabric, they ripped to shreds. It is completely frustrating. 206 00:11:48,050 --> 00:11:53,310 This is my brand new sofa, and this, you can see, are little cat claw marks. 207 00:11:53,650 --> 00:11:55,090 It's already being scratched. 208 00:11:55,610 --> 00:12:00,130 Right now, I keep the cats in the back half of the apartment just to contain 209 00:12:00,130 --> 00:12:01,330 destruction on the sofa. 210 00:12:01,670 --> 00:12:02,670 Daisy! 211 00:12:05,259 --> 00:12:10,240 I really need Jackson's help because I don't want to lock them in the back half 212 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,179 of an apartment. 213 00:12:11,180 --> 00:12:16,640 I want to do everything in my power for my cats to have the best life possible. 214 00:12:16,820 --> 00:12:20,960 I'm at a loss because I don't know how to solve it. I don't know what to do. 215 00:12:25,460 --> 00:12:27,560 Hey. Hi. How are you, Jackson? 216 00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:30,260 Kira. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. 217 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,380 So we got two cats. Yes, Cooper and Daisy. 218 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:37,200 Cooper just recently got diagnosed with early kidney disease. 219 00:12:37,660 --> 00:12:43,920 So in like two years, he went from 11 pounds, six ounces to eight pounds, four 220 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,680 ounces. I put him on renal care cat food. And as the weeks went on, he was 221 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:54,780 eating less and less and not drinking water at all. I feed them separately. 222 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,680 Daisy's always been a voracious eater. 223 00:12:58,970 --> 00:13:04,010 So she eats really, really quickly and then eats Cooper's food. 224 00:13:04,290 --> 00:13:09,230 Cooper eats in the bedroom. Daisy gobbles her food down instantaneously 225 00:13:09,230 --> 00:13:11,190 screams outside the bedroom door. 226 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:15,750 And I think he's really stressed out by her scratching and yelling at the door. 227 00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:17,790 And does that lead him to not eat? 228 00:13:18,090 --> 00:13:22,570 Yes. Okay, so that's going on. Has their relationship changed because of all 229 00:13:22,570 --> 00:13:23,570 this? Yes. 230 00:13:24,330 --> 00:13:26,350 She bullies him. 231 00:13:26,690 --> 00:13:28,030 But they never did that before? 232 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,560 No, they used to actually sleep together, you know, in a cuddle. Well, 233 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:33,839 That's Daisy. 234 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Where is Cooper right now? 235 00:13:35,580 --> 00:13:36,900 He's probably in the bedroom. 236 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,900 Okay. And that's so abnormal. 237 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,320 That's not him? 238 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:46,640 No. He went from, like, gregarious and friendly to sleeping, and he just 239 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,640 seem happy. 240 00:13:47,780 --> 00:13:53,720 So you can trace his decline in sociability to his disease. 241 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:54,859 I think so. 242 00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:59,500 Yeah. Cooper might have been a social cat at one point, but the bottom line is 243 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:01,500 not feeling well is going to cause you to withdraw. 244 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,200 The other problem is my cats scratch all my furniture. 245 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,360 I used to have a fabric sofa, and within two months, the wood frame and the 246 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,260 stuffing's out. This is new furniture now. 247 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Yes. 248 00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:20,820 Well, how brave of you. I know. You had a fabric couch that got beat up in terms 249 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:23,300 of scratching, and you went out and got yourself a... 250 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,860 Nice looking, leathery looking couch. 251 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,500 Well, I work in interior design. I'm just not ready to give up on living in a 252 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:31,219 nice space. 253 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:36,760 And then they started in on it. So I shut that door and they're locked in the 254 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:37,880 back half of the apartment. 255 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,480 They don't have access to this? That's a good chunk of house that they don't 256 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 have access to. They have scratching posts. 257 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,560 Where? In the bedroom. 258 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:48,380 I understand Kira's frustration. 259 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,040 I mean, if my job was an interior designer and all the furniture I had in 260 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,420 house was being completely torn to shreds, yeah, I'd be a little 261 00:14:56,460 --> 00:15:01,420 too. That said, let's go find Cooper. Okay. Let's go see what he's up to. Now, 262 00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:06,860 one thing says I have a cat, and locking your cats out of half of the house 263 00:15:06,860 --> 00:15:11,260 because of your couch, that is the definition of an unsustainable long 264 00:15:11,260 --> 00:15:16,120 solution. So he has lost two -plus pounds. He still looks good. 265 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Cooper's normal weight for seven years was 11 pounds, 6 ounces, and he weighs 266 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,320 8 pounds, 5 ounces now. 267 00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:26,840 Oh, he's pretty dehydrated. 268 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Do you know how to judge for that? 269 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:33,440 No. So to test for dehydration, all you have to do, take a little piece of 270 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,400 scruff and then let go of it. And you see how it doesn't just snap back? 271 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,720 See, it does that. That lets you know that he's dehydrated a little bit. 272 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,100 Now, look. 273 00:15:43,580 --> 00:15:45,380 Kidney disease is not something that's reversible. 274 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:46,860 It's totally manageable. 275 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,760 I've had one cat. I've been managing it for over 10 years. 276 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,780 The problem is that cats get over 80 % of their hydration through their food. 277 00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:59,840 So if he's not eating enough, he's going to stay dehydrated. 278 00:16:01,150 --> 00:16:04,930 needs to get food in him to keep his weight up, but that also gives him his 279 00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:08,970 hydration, which will also make sure that he's got water going through his 280 00:16:08,970 --> 00:16:13,030 system, which will address the renal failure. I want to go through your 281 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:14,270 ritual with these guys. 282 00:16:14,630 --> 00:16:17,810 Let's feed Daisy, let's feed Cooper, and let me see what happens, all right? 283 00:16:17,950 --> 00:16:23,490 Okay. It's not Cooper's renal diagnosis that changed everything in his house. It 284 00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:24,730 was the prescription diet. 285 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:29,410 Now he has to eat separately from his sister. Now he's not eating the way he 286 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:33,660 used to. He's losing. weight and he's getting dehydrated in the process. 287 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:34,660 the problem here. 288 00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:36,740 Come on. 289 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,520 Coop. I hear cajoling. You gotta eat a little bit. 290 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,800 You gotta eat. 291 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:46,620 How's it going in there, Kira? Is he eating? 292 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,960 No. Is he even going near it? 293 00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:50,260 No. 294 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,840 Now what do we do? 295 00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:57,220 So sure enough, Daisy scarfs that food down. It is gone before you can say 296 00:16:57,220 --> 00:16:58,220 Cooper. 297 00:16:58,530 --> 00:17:01,130 Daisy rushes that door. She's pawing underneath. 298 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:05,130 She's making that rattling sound. And I can imagine, it's not a really relaxing 299 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:06,130 meal, is it? 300 00:17:07,089 --> 00:17:08,089 Wow. 301 00:17:12,589 --> 00:17:13,589 Whoa. 302 00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:31,380 Okay, then. 303 00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:35,480 You've got to put yourself in Cooper's paws right now. He's being separated 304 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,220 the rest of the family with a bowl of food that he doesn't like. He's got Kira 305 00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:43,200 hovering over the top of him saying, please eat. He's got Daisy at the door. 306 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,980 The energy in the home has completely shifted. The relationships in the home 307 00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:53,340 completely shifted. This crazy dance that's going on around food, it's got to 308 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:54,340 stop now. 309 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:02,290 Hey. So, Daisy did exactly what... We thought Daisy would do. Yes. She gobbled 310 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:07,390 down her food and went for the second course, which she couldn't get to. So on 311 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:09,790 your side of the door, what was going on? Not a bite. 312 00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:10,909 Not a bite. 313 00:18:10,910 --> 00:18:14,290 Watched the door the whole time. Which we cannot have. 314 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:15,850 He's got to. 315 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,800 get water in them, you've got to eat. 316 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:22,360 Kira's intentions are good, but what she's doing is that classic case of 317 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:26,220 your finger in the leaky wall. Now you've got this leak and this leak. 318 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:27,400 going to run out of fingers eventually. 319 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,240 We've got to talk about real problem solving here. Ready for some homework? 320 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,079 I am. 321 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,220 Good. We've got a couple things that we're dealing with. This is the thing 322 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:36,740 chronic renal failure in cats. 323 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,920 Everyone has an opinion about it. I'm going to give you my opinion, and that's 324 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,580 all it is. It's based on my experience and what I know about it. Your first 325 00:18:44,580 --> 00:18:49,490 piece of homework is... I want you to feed your cats a wet, grain -free diet. 326 00:18:49,490 --> 00:18:53,610 believe in a high -protein diet, whether they're thick or well. And I don't see 327 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:55,950 any reason to go away from that. 328 00:18:56,190 --> 00:19:00,170 I'm a big fan of raw food. I think the cats should be eating exactly what they 329 00:19:00,170 --> 00:19:03,650 would be eating out there. And if they were eating what they were meant to eat, 330 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:05,450 they wouldn't develop half of these problems. 331 00:19:05,690 --> 00:19:07,350 Of course, genetics plays a part in this. 332 00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:13,180 The number one thing that you have to be concerned about with your cat is water 333 00:19:13,180 --> 00:19:18,080 going through his body at all times. Chronic renal failure cats need a 334 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,900 flow of water through their system. 335 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:24,840 I want you to take hot water, mix it in with your food, and make it into almost 336 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,499 a stew. 337 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:29,900 That will unlock the smell. It'll be attractive to him and to her, but that 338 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:32,180 you make sure they're getting that water as well. 339 00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:35,110 Now, the reason these two cats are being separated in the first place that 340 00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:40,150 started this whole crazy routine was because Cooper gets his prescription 341 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:44,550 so the cats are on two separate diets. It's my opinion that doesn't have to 342 00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:49,410 happen anymore. I believe it's okay to be fed the same food as long as it 343 00:19:49,410 --> 00:19:50,750 achieves the ends that we need. 344 00:19:51,050 --> 00:19:56,310 I want you to find out everything that you can find out about chronic renal 345 00:19:56,310 --> 00:20:01,050 failure, about how to combat it in order to give him a longer life, which I 346 00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:02,070 think would be really good for you. 347 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:08,360 Now we can start breaking down the dance to be separated, to have doors closed, 348 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,820 and to have youths dressing over the top of it. So go back to eating at the same 349 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:16,440 time. With the addition of this, I want you to get what's called a slow feeder 350 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,460 bowl. You basically paste the food to these ridges. They have to work at it. 351 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:23,640 It's going to slow down Daisy in a big way. 352 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,080 That's going to completely reduce the friction between your two cats. 353 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,980 This isn't a territorial battle. This is... 354 00:20:30,250 --> 00:20:33,390 One cat being really hungry, really food motivated. The other one being a little 355 00:20:33,390 --> 00:20:37,530 distracted, a little scared by what's going on. All that stress, that's 356 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:39,990 them to go off on each other a little bit. That'll stop. 357 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:42,930 Great. Now, scratching. 358 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:47,070 You're an interior designer, so I think this is a really great assignment for 359 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:50,450 you. I want you to become a catification designer. 360 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:52,030 Catification. 361 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:56,160 is the art of designing for both human and cat. 362 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,980 This technique that I use is based on that. It's called the no -yes technique. 363 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:04,700 So for no, what we're going to do is double -sided tape on the furniture, but 364 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:09,440 right next to it is going to be something where there's the yes. So that 365 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,680 scratching post right here. 366 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:14,240 No, yes, right? 367 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,360 By the bed. No, yes. 368 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,000 The other problem we got, now these guys are locked in the back. They don't get 369 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 to come up front here. 370 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:22,140 That's not a solution. 371 00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:26,210 Open the doors so that they can just stay out of each other's way. By giving 372 00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:30,650 Kira the homework of becoming a catification interior designer, I am 373 00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:34,210 completely against her normal training, which is, of course, very human -based. 374 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:39,190 She's got to learn what that compromise looks like in a designerly way. It's 375 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:42,710 going to be tough on her, man, but there is plenty of evidence out there that 376 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:46,230 catification can work for both parties. I'm excited for you because I know that 377 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:49,250 when I come back here, you will be an expert. I can feel it. 378 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:51,570 All right, I'm out. I'm not. 379 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:57,760 I'm in love with the notion of cat trees out in my living room, but I'm going to 380 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,980 do the homework because it's really important to me that my cats are happy. 381 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,400 Thank you. Bye. 382 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:07,180 Baby! 383 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,560 I'm here for my second visit with Baby. The last time I was here, Baby was 384 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,100 holding the entire house hostage, or at least the feline part of the house. 385 00:22:22,830 --> 00:22:26,890 It's a bad situation all the way around, but one with not very many answers. And 386 00:22:26,890 --> 00:22:28,450 the answers is what I'm hoping to get today. 387 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,250 How are things with you guys? 388 00:22:31,670 --> 00:22:32,770 Good. Yeah? 389 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:37,210 Good. Yeah. Okay. So let's take a look at your homework. And here we go. 390 00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:42,050 We've just arrived at Valencia Vet where we're going to see the doctor and ask 391 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:43,790 about his primate card. 392 00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:48,970 So we got the blood test back from the vet. Baby does not have a testosterone 393 00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:51,410 issue. His testosterone was less than... 394 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,460 0 .1%. He is a neutered boy. 395 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,680 So we were trying to do our detective work and rule out the fact that he might 396 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,260 have been cryptorchid, and that has been ruled out. 397 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,960 Baby does not have testosterone. 398 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:08,180 That would have been a really handy explanation for everything that's going 399 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:12,180 here, but the question remains, why is baby acting out the way he is? 400 00:23:14,140 --> 00:23:19,460 And now he's sitting up here, and this is kind of a sign that we have that 401 00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:20,680 like, looking for mischief. 402 00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:38,360 So most of everything that we've seen happens up there. 403 00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:44,920 This spot where he is right now, this place that I call the crow's nest, right 404 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,020 at the top of those stairs, covered. 405 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,660 Nobody gets anywhere without baby say -so. 406 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,200 So this is a problem area. 407 00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:56,819 Moving on. 408 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:58,140 This is kind of a normal day. 409 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,400 So baby's here. I know he's up to something. 410 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,780 There's Mabel. There's Gingy. And there's Grace. 411 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,160 There's Lily. 412 00:24:09,660 --> 00:24:13,260 I just feel so bad for the other cats because they're scared of Baby. 413 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:17,000 Do they hide all the time now where they didn't before? 414 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:18,360 Yeah. 415 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,540 We got Baby sitting in this power position the same as he was upstairs. 416 00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:28,440 Cat Chess. Baby is calculating the moves of his opponents, and he is thinking 417 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,440 three steps ahead. 418 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Check. Check. 419 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:35,930 Checkmate. And all the rest of the cats know this. They're walking as if 420 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:39,030 something's about to attack them. And guess what? They're right. 421 00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:44,790 There was just a situation, and he was full -on mounting Ginger and biting her 422 00:24:44,790 --> 00:24:48,630 neck. And she was just sitting there, fine with it. It was really weird. 423 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:52,870 It's very easy to sexualize what's going on between Ginger and Baby. 424 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:55,810 Really, it is about dominance and submission. 425 00:24:56,110 --> 00:24:59,250 Baby chases the other cats because he gets that thrill of the hunt. 426 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,260 He mounts Ginger because he can, he does, and he gets that satisfaction of 427 00:25:04,260 --> 00:25:05,920 dominance, and Ginger takes it. 428 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:16,160 Baby just jumped at Grace, and she hissed at him. He didn't lunge at her. 429 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,740 pounced like he wanted to play with her, but she hissed right at him. I don't 430 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:20,740 think Grace is afraid. 431 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,360 Good, because Grace has the confidence to say, okay, well, that just sucked, 432 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,360 I'm back. 433 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,780 a cat to pity, that she's got strength. 434 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:37,780 By hissing at baby, Grace shows the only dose of confidence I've seen out of any 435 00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:38,459 cats here. 436 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:44,300 So to me, that sets the stage for a relationship that's not as scarring as 437 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:45,139 other cats. 438 00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:50,980 Last time I was here, you said that if Grace got it, then you would have to 439 00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:54,860 start thinking about baby's future. Now you've seen it. 440 00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:57,080 Do you still have that line in the sand? 441 00:26:00,199 --> 00:26:01,360 No, I don't think so. 442 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:02,419 Do you? 443 00:26:02,420 --> 00:26:06,160 I mean, I don't know if I'm still as worried. Maybe it's because Grace 444 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,940 fear him. She's not just a special needs cat. 445 00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:12,040 She's a cat who could probably stand up for herself pretty well. 446 00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:17,760 What was that? That's him trying to break down a door. 447 00:26:18,020 --> 00:26:19,600 They're all upstairs right now. 448 00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:23,800 Wait, so everybody right now can get at anybody right now? Yes. They're all out 449 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,800 right now. We just heard a hiss. Yeah. 450 00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:29,500 Okay, John and Mary are telling me there's a fight about to happen. I got 451 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:32,800 upstairs and see what it is because I can't have baby hurting someone on my 452 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,799 watch anyway. 453 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,820 What is it that you're doing? 454 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,460 Problem here is... 455 00:26:44,460 --> 00:26:51,040 They're all upstairs 456 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,040 right now. 457 00:26:52,460 --> 00:26:53,480 What is it that you're doing? 458 00:26:56,970 --> 00:26:58,590 Well, he's the only one up here. 459 00:26:59,170 --> 00:27:01,590 Okay, so maybe that was just all him, that sound. 460 00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:03,710 So everybody else is in the bedroom. 461 00:27:04,210 --> 00:27:08,230 He is wanting in the bedroom, but you're hearing hisses and growls? No, 462 00:27:08,270 --> 00:27:10,970 everybody else is downstairs. I'm sorry, everybody's downstairs. 463 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:17,290 You just heard hissing and growling. You assumed that that was baby torturing 464 00:27:17,290 --> 00:27:18,290 everybody. 465 00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:19,510 And everyone's down here. 466 00:27:20,030 --> 00:27:23,510 John and Mary are assuming the worst because they're used to Baby holding the 467 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:27,590 other cats hostage, and the cats are hiding because Baby's behavior has 468 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:28,590 their confidence. 469 00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:30,610 These are problems that need to be addressed. 470 00:27:31,330 --> 00:27:37,270 I think that what we have to start doing is start guiding these guys to a better 471 00:27:37,270 --> 00:27:43,130 life. Because Baby is part Napoleon cat and part bully. He just is kind of 472 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:46,410 having fun. This is his way of doing it. And Napoleon has an agenda. 473 00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:52,820 Ownership. Overowning. A bully says, wait a minute, that toy is really fun. 474 00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:53,820 squeaks and it runs. 475 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,140 I'm on it. I've also noticed that the attacks happen on the floor because 476 00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:00,800 there's no place else for your cats to go. 477 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:05,280 So the first piece of homework that I have for you is to catify the place, 478 00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:06,660 specifically things that are up. 479 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,200 will help, right? 480 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,360 Baby is overowning the floor, so let's create another lane of highway and give 481 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,220 the other cats in this home a vertical world where they can get away. 482 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,760 We also have to obliterate the crow's nest, okay? 483 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,300 A traffic circle up at crow's nest, I think, is the way to go. 484 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,380 Now, what I usually do is I'll take something just like this. I call it a 485 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:29,380 diffusion post. 486 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,040 The diffusion post makes it so that when animals are running at each other, 487 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:37,480 you're breaking up the momentum and they're forced to go around almost like 488 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,960 revolving door. The bottom line is no more power positions for a baby. It 489 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,080 no sense to give him that closeness, to give him that spot under the chair in 490 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,680 the dining room or any other checkmate position. 491 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:51,700 The next thing we're going to do is talk about the concept of play therapy. 492 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,960 Use play to draw them out. I want to see your scaredy cats attack something in 493 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,100 the middle of the floor because it's confidence that they can't get any other 494 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,470 way. I had a chance to play with Grace earlier in the day, and I got to see how 495 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:09,210 fearless this special needs cat really is. She let me pet her and really got 496 00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:10,210 into play. 497 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:11,350 Good girl. 498 00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:16,530 That's my baby girl. What I need to do is build up the confidence of the 499 00:29:16,530 --> 00:29:20,310 in this house while draining the energy out of the bully. The goal is to get 500 00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:23,770 these guys to meet in the middle somewhere. Then, hopefully, we have a 501 00:29:23,770 --> 00:29:24,990 for a peaceful life together. 502 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:28,050 All right, guys. I will see you in just a few weeks. Bye. 503 00:29:28,290 --> 00:29:29,290 Bye. 504 00:29:37,629 --> 00:29:41,430 So I'm here for my next visit with Kira and her two cats, Daisy and Cooper. 505 00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:45,290 The last time I was here, we were dealing with a mess. We had furniture 506 00:29:45,290 --> 00:29:49,110 shredded. We had Cooper, who's got the beginnings of kidney disease, and he was 507 00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:50,089 just not eating. 508 00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:54,750 The cats were fighting, and Kira was so stressed out beyond belief. This time 509 00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:59,530 around, look, if Cooper is eating, we're on the road to good things. How are 510 00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:05,110 you? so much better yeah it's so gratifying to see cooper eating it's 511 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:10,910 heartwarming really good yeah and there's our girl daisy hello my baby 512 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:15,990 are you what i really want to do is start going through your your video 513 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:18,610 i put sticky paws 514 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720 On the part of the box spring that the cats love to claw. 515 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:29,300 A consolation prize is a super cute cat bed with a 516 00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:32,060 scratcher. Nice. All on the side of it. 517 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:36,760 This is all for the love of cats. 518 00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:43,180 So the catification homework I was given by Jackson actually has been the most 519 00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:48,220 challenging for me. I am so particular about what's in my house. 520 00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:55,010 Big, crazy cat climbing devices are just not my cup of tea. But these are great, 521 00:30:55,090 --> 00:30:57,430 and I want to do the best for my cat. 522 00:30:57,730 --> 00:30:59,850 But I love that, though. I love that you're up high. 523 00:31:00,910 --> 00:31:06,150 The glory of catification is giving cats the opportunity to own where they're 524 00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:10,630 the most confident in the vertical world. This is a cat who normally is 525 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:11,990 around, just quiet. 526 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:13,450 That's what we wanted to see. 527 00:31:14,530 --> 00:31:16,510 First day on wet food. 528 00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:18,350 Made into a stew. 529 00:31:19,090 --> 00:31:20,090 There we go. 530 00:31:20,850 --> 00:31:21,850 Look at that. 531 00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:25,610 I'm just going to pause right there, too. Both cats together, you're using 532 00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:28,810 slow feeder bowl, which is great because you see Daisy just sort of having to 533 00:31:28,810 --> 00:31:33,690 work her food a little bit so that she doesn't just go plowing through her food 534 00:31:33,690 --> 00:31:37,810 and then go for his. And then he joins the party, which I'm sure you felt 535 00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:39,450 pretty good about, right? Yeah. Yeah. 536 00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:45,770 That was awesome. That's a nice one. The advice Jackson gave me has made a huge 537 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:51,810 difference. It is one of the most gratifying things to see Cooper finish a 538 00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:56,450 of food. He is looking better. His fur looks better. 539 00:31:56,690 --> 00:32:02,710 He's actually playing again. That's cool. This is a huge win, not just for 540 00:32:02,830 --> 00:32:07,470 but Cooper needs to eat for his long -term health, and he's doing it. Now, 541 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:09,210 scratching -wise, how's it been going? 542 00:32:09,899 --> 00:32:13,140 I have seen no new scratching. 543 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:18,080 I'm so happy. Have you been able to get rid of the whole closing the doors and 544 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,420 keeping everybody out? Are you able to open up the house a little bit more? 545 00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:26,380 Since I saw you, I have kept all the doors in the house open. Free to roam. 546 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:31,260 They're not on top of each other. And Cooper and Daisy have been fighting a 547 00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:32,260 less. 548 00:32:32,639 --> 00:32:37,860 Fantastic. Here I had to take a leap of faith by opening the doors so the cats 549 00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:39,760 have an opportunity to own everything. 550 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,100 This gives the cats an equal sense of ownership. 551 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:44,320 I mean, so far everything I'm hearing is beautiful. 552 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,860 I desperately want to weigh him. I want to make sure he hasn't lost more weight. 553 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Where's your scale at? 554 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,880 I will grab it. Let's go find that. 555 00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,440 In the meantime, I'm going to get on the floor because I know he's right here. 556 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,960 And we'll get this done. 557 00:32:59,650 --> 00:33:00,670 Hi, buddy boy. 558 00:33:01,330 --> 00:33:03,090 Hi. Here we go. Here we go. 559 00:33:03,930 --> 00:33:08,390 Now, if you could, I know he's down there. You want to grab him, bring him 560 00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:10,770 and then we'll stick him on here. 561 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,630 Now, just so I know, what was his last known weight? 562 00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:15,090 Eight pounds, four ounces. 563 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:18,850 Okay. So anything above eight pounds, four ounces is a win. 564 00:33:19,490 --> 00:33:20,690 Total win. All right, let's go. 565 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:24,750 It's okay, buddy. Come here, my love, my love. Okay, I'm just going to put you 566 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,110 on here. There we go, buddy. 567 00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:28,250 And... 568 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,720 Come here, my love, my love. Okay, I'm just going to put you on here. There we 569 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,440 go, buddy. Just like that. 570 00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:46,900 Nine pounds, two ounces. 571 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:52,640 He has gained about a pound since his low weight. 572 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200 That means everything's working. 573 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,640 This is so good. 574 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,040 Cooper is going to be living with his kidney issues for the rest of his life. 575 00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:01,180 You can't reverse that. 576 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,980 But you can live a much more vital, healthy life with it. And Cooper is now 577 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:10,219 up to live that life. Once a week, put him on that scale because we just want 578 00:34:10,219 --> 00:34:11,639 stay current. In your cat? 579 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:18,920 But I'm psyched. My heart is this big right now. To see the proof that Cooper 580 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,760 gaining weight, that he's regaining his health as well as his confidence, man, 581 00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:23,780 that feels good. 582 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Before I leave you, I just want to make sure that you're good, that you're okay. 583 00:34:27,260 --> 00:34:29,699 I'm so good. I can't thank you enough. 584 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,460 The constant stress is gone. 585 00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:36,139 Good. Well, that's good. And on that note, I am going to leave you. Before 586 00:34:36,139 --> 00:34:40,000 Jackson came, I was really panicked about Cooper. 587 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:44,199 I was feeling hopeless, like I was going to lose my cat. And now, getting a 588 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,239 handle on Cooper's kidney disease. 589 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,699 really changed everything. 590 00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:50,540 I'm so much less stressed. 591 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,659 Daisy's behaving better. Cooper's happier. 592 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,219 And I think it's only going to get better. 593 00:35:05,660 --> 00:35:08,280 I'm here at the Lake Bluff Public Library in Illinois. 594 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,360 In Illinois, and I'm here to meet up with Super Cat Volunteer Max and his 595 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,218 guardian, Kathy. 596 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:17,040 These guys are all over the place, and I finally get to meet up with them. 597 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,360 Kathy? 598 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,060 Hi, how are you? Kathy, I'm great. Good to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. 599 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:25,300 This looks like fun. 600 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,660 Yes. That's Max. That is Max. It's hard to miss him. The big Maine Coon there 601 00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:30,509 with one ear. 602 00:35:30,510 --> 00:35:35,530 Hi, I'm Kathy Mardini and my cat Max is part of the reading program at the Lake 603 00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:37,310 West Library called Paws for a Tail. 604 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:42,330 The goal of this program is to encourage kids to read and also encourage kids 605 00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:43,470 that might struggle reading. 606 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:47,530 And the idea is just read to the animal. Just read to the animal. Kids in grade 607 00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:49,730 school or middle school can come and... 608 00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:52,600 practice reading to the cats and dogs in the program. 609 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,800 Some kids are phenomenal readers. Other kids struggle a little more, and it 610 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,060 gives them that opportunity to sit down and read with an animal who doesn't 611 00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:02,800 care. They just like the fact that they're hearing the human voice and 612 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,260 some attention that way. I think he can help you with this book if you'd like to 613 00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:07,260 read. You want to try? 614 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,980 The river ran all the way through the Emerald Plain, and there was... 615 00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:13,910 So much wildlife disease. 616 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:18,330 When kids first join the program, they're struggling a little. And in 617 00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:21,110 had a little boy a couple of years ago that was reading to him and all of a 618 00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:22,730 sudden became a phenomenal reader. 619 00:36:22,970 --> 00:36:24,070 What's the story with Max's ear? 620 00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:28,490 So Max was diagnosed with cancer. He had a mast cell tumor behind his ear and 621 00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:29,490 one underneath his nose. 622 00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:33,700 So we took him in for treatment. He had eight chemo treatments. 623 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:38,440 Max went through a pretty scary time. I mean, he had cancer that was in his ear. 624 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,960 But what has happened on the other side of that is that Max now looks a little 625 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,700 different from other cats. And he can also send that message to kids, that 626 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:50,120 different might mean being special. I mean, honestly, I'm just watching him. 627 00:36:50,570 --> 00:36:54,530 hang out with these guys and he is so absolutely amazing like you know you can 628 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:58,410 rub his tummy you can do all these things that usually cats will let you 629 00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:03,990 not to so it's a pretty he's an incredibly mellow cat i can see exactly 630 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:07,630 is such a perfect candidate for a program like this because he's so 631 00:37:07,630 --> 00:37:13,930 and and so relatable the children feel open about reading to him max embodies 632 00:37:13,930 --> 00:37:18,510 what i call the mojito cat i would imagine that you come in contact with a 633 00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:20,160 of kids who are scared of cats Yes. 634 00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:23,080 Max and the other animals in the program are trained. 635 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,220 So kids that aren't used to animals or are afraid of animals, it's really a 636 00:37:27,220 --> 00:37:29,620 great opportunity for them to get some one -on -one attention. 637 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,200 There are so many levels to what makes this program important. 638 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,000 The first thing being that kids, to be able to read out loud without any fear 639 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,460 judgment, essential to their social development, and to feel like they can 640 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:47,140 without the fear of being bit or scratched, is huge in any child's life. 641 00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:49,280 It hasn't stopped amazing me. 642 00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:51,470 How great he does here. 643 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,970 And you meet a lot of cats. I meet a lot of cats. Kathy, it's great to meet you. 644 00:37:55,150 --> 00:37:58,890 Great to meet you. Great to meet you, buddy. Keep it up. Yeah, thank you very 645 00:37:58,890 --> 00:38:03,930 much. I hope that when people watch this story, they change their mind a little 646 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:08,790 bit about cats. That they realize, oh, cats aren't all afraid, running away 647 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:11,850 kids, wanting to be by themselves, independent, aloof. 648 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,290 That they crave. 649 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,260 Social situations, they crave attention, they love children. And Max is that 650 00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:21,280 wonderful ambassador for all cats. Yeah, you want to pet him? 651 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,760 Baby! 652 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,900 I'm here for my third visit with John and Mary, the cat Baby, and all the 653 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:35,560 cats that Baby previously terrorized. And all I want to see is a catified 654 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,300 many lanes of traffic, and I'll be happy. That's not asking that much, is 655 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,720 I'm very excited to come back here, man. 656 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:48,140 Oh, my God. 657 00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:52,980 Wow. 658 00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:58,720 I've seen a lot of catification in my day, but this is what I'm talking about. 659 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,660 mean, I know that this is going to be amazing for all the cats, for baby, but 660 00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:03,740 for the other ones especially. 661 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,280 And it looks nice. Come on. This is great. 662 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,520 Holy crow, you guys. 663 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,280 That makes me feel great. And it also tells me that you guys are going in the 664 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,680 right direction. Let's take a look at what we're doing here, video homework 665 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,680 -wise. 666 00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:19,260 Yeah, baby. 667 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:21,000 Oh. Oh. 668 00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:28,100 Wow. Good girl, Mae. 669 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:36,380 Wait, who was that down there? Was that Baby? That was Baby. Oh, God, I love 670 00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:38,580 these moments. We have Mabel. 671 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:43,740 Baby. And he's doing what used to be checkmate. 672 00:39:44,060 --> 00:39:45,560 He's blocking the stairs. 673 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,340 He's blocking her ability to get up and down, but no longer. And that's what 674 00:39:50,340 --> 00:39:52,040 gives her confidence. Moving on. 675 00:39:57,140 --> 00:40:03,820 Look at that. This is the traffic circle, the diffusion post in action. I 676 00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:07,580 I'm going to go this way. Fine, I'll go this way then. Ginger doesn't even 677 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:08,580 respond. 678 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,440 Two babies look. 679 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:14,820 She goes, no, I can just walk right by. I can show you my tail as I go by. This 680 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:21,120 must have happened enough times that she is confident that she's not going to 681 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,118 get tackled. 682 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,038 Moving on. 683 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,600 I've been playing with baby a lot before feeding. I'm trying to channel Jackson. 684 00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:31,020 I'm hoping I'm doing it correctly. 685 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,080 Uh -oh. 686 00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:44,370 I'm trying to channel Jackson. 687 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:47,710 Uh -oh. 688 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,590 Everything can't be roses. 689 00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:56,190 In terms of you channeling your Jackson, you need to run around a little bit. 690 00:40:56,310 --> 00:41:00,770 You need to get yourself moving a little bit. Unless you tire the baby out, the 691 00:41:00,770 --> 00:41:04,170 cat becomes an extension of a toy. Because they're moving better than 692 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:07,130 moving. In this house more than any other. 693 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,920 You have got to keep the stakes up during playtime. John and Mary are 694 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,360 there. They just need to drain baby's energy so he doesn't have the need to 695 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,098 and kill. 696 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,100 Hi. 697 00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:19,580 How's it going? 698 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,600 We got our boy and our girl sitting out and watch. 699 00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:30,200 Lily just walks by him and him watching but not chasing. So that's fantastic. 700 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:32,040 This was the crow's nest. 701 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,360 Not there anymore. 702 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,640 Exactly. What I was hoping for, the other cats have increased confidence 703 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,960 play, and now they can get away from Baby because of the catification. 704 00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:51,100 They're not running, so Baby is not chasing them. He's taken control in a 705 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,520 wonderful way. 706 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,320 I've learned we're not necessarily changing Baby. It's the whole team 707 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,480 you know, including us. 708 00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:02,700 and now we're paying attention to the details of the situation as opposed to 709 00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,340 just reacting and kind of looking at it from a different perspective. 710 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,800 This has really been a life changer for us. It's worked. 711 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,140 Bye. Take care. Thank you. 61616

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