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Miles peed by the front door, on the
front door. He just peed.
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He peed on the wall. He peed under the
window.
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Lena's at that age where she is walking
and getting into everything.
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We worry that she will stick her hands
in a newly formed pee puddle. What if I
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couldn't come over here? We've put out
the feelers to find him a new home.
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My name is Molly, and together with my
hero, Tobacco, we help rescue cats.
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The kittens!
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Yay! My little babies!
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I'm here at the Allendale Correctional
Institution, which used to be one of the
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roughest prisons in the system. But it
has transformed into something beyond
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anybody's wildest dreams.
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Cats! Everywhere!
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This is therapy.
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It's given many of these men a purpose.
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We're not just saving four -legged lives
here.
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We're saving two -legged lives.
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Whoa!
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Holy! I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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What the hell, man?
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The animal behaviors that guardians call
when they're dealing with a difficult
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cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have
her.
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Damn.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that
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my help. This is fun.
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I'm Kristen. And I'm Alyssa. We have a
16 -month -old daughter, Lena, and three
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cats, Max, Maury, and Miles.
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We adopted Max and Maury when they were
about three months old, about a year and
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a half before we brought Miles in. We
just had the intention of fostering him
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and finding him a new home. But over the
time that it took us to find somebody
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to take him, Max, Maury, and Miles all
bonded. We just couldn't separate them.
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Hi, pretty boy.
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There's just a special place in my heart
for Miles. Hi.
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He's just such a little sweetie. He's a
great cat, but he's been peeing in our
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house for the last three years.
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And there it is. He just peed.
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Can you see it? Yeah.
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That's Miles' pee.
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Miles has peed by the front door, on the
front door.
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Looks like he emptied his entire
bladder.
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He pees on the wall.
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He pees under the window.
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This is a brand new pee spot.
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There's literally not a spot in this
house he hasn't peed. This is an area
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he peed often.
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Lena's at that age where she is getting
into everything, and we worry that she
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will stick her hands in a newly formed
pee puddle. We don't know if he would
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on her toys. Every time he gets near
that window, I get nervous.
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There's just no way to ensure that we
can be on top of it when Miles pees
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somewhere.
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So we decided to confine Miles to our
bedroom. So he's been confined in our
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bedroom for almost a year, and it has
taken a toll on him. He hears us out
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and he wants to be a part of the family,
but we can't let him out because we
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can't risk having Pete around the house.
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Pretty quickly after Miles being left in
the bedroom, there was an immediate
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difference in his relationship with the
other cats.
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Nope. Oh, my God.
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Lena!
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Miles is back in his safe zone.
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There was fur everywhere.
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Maury and Max will come to the door and
hiss at Miles, and Miles will just paw
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at the door and meow.
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Can you ruin the door?
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They don't feel like a group anymore. It
feels like Max and Maury and Miles.
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Whoa!
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Anytime we think he's getting better, we
take him out.
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And so then there's a flare -up, and
then it just becomes worse.
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We feel like failures, and we feel like
we've failed Miles.
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I love you a lot, little man.
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We would love it if Jackson could bring
our family back together, including
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Miles. Oh, my pretty little man.
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We really feel like Jackson's our only
hope.
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Hello. Hello.
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Hello. How are you? I'm good. I'm
Jackson. Alyssa. Alyssa. Kristen.
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Hey, Kristen. Good to meet you guys.
This is Lena.
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Hey, Lena.
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So, tell me what's up. So, we have three
cats.
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Max and Maury are brothers.
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Miles was brought in later. Okay.
Everything is great for the first year.
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day, Miles just started peeing on walls.
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Yeah. He pees outside of the box at
least four to five times a day. A day?
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Yes. Does he ever pee in the box? Yeah.
Yeah. He could sometimes go in the
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litter box, pee a little, come out and
pee on the wall. It's very strange.
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Wow, man. How old was Miles when we
started?
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Probably a year. He was about a year
old, yeah. Really? So, everything's
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fine. And then a year into it. We were
like, let's take him to the vet just to
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be sure everything's going on there. And
he was getting bladder crystals. Some
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cats are just predisposed to getting
crystals in their bladder, just like
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humans are predisposed to.
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Kidney stones. When a cat has their
urethra blocked by crystals, they can
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septic and die. It's not a small thing.
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And they believe it was brought on by
stress, because he is kind of a high
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-stress cat. He always has, like, the
big eyes, and he's always rubbing up on
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everything. He seems very territorial.
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Okay. So the crystals kept forming.
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Yeah, he had to be catheterized twice.
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Wow. And they said, why don't we have
the, what's the surgery called? The
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perineal urethra. Oh, the PU surgery?
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We decided, you know, it's probably the
best course of action, and the vet
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agreed. Wow, it got that bad that he had
to have the surgery. The PU surgery
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makes their urethra larger so that
crystals don't lead to blockages. It's a
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pretty severe surgery, but in cases like
Miles, it usually helps. Did it resolve
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anything? No.
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He doesn't have any crystals.
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Right. He's healthy.
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He's healthy, but he's still peeing.
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Yes, the surgery worked, but Miles
didn't stop peeing, so something else
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going on here.
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So he lives in our room, and the other
cats have the rest of the house. We have
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left him in that room for a year. It's
been a year. The only other thing is it
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now has created a tension in the
household.
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We're worried that it increases his
stress level and that he'll continue to
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Yeah. And also, Lena came into the
picture. We can't let him out because we
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can't risk having pee around the house
where Lena could potentially get into
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There she goes.
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It's hard to imagine that you can keep
him in a room 24 -7 and he doesn't act
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out to some degree.
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He does scratch at the door to get out
of the room. So we'll put him in the
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bathroom in our bedroom at night
sometimes because we can't sleep. Wait,
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let me back up. So now he's going from
being in the bedroom to being in the
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bathroom in the bedroom.
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Right.
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Man, so we just keep making it smaller
and smaller.
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They're putting Miles in the bathroom
because he stresses them out. They can't
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sleep at night, but by putting him in
the bathroom, they are causing his
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to skyrocket. It's not a win.
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What if I couldn't come over here? Where
are you guys at?
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We've put out the feelers to find him a
new home because we feel like maybe he'd
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be happier in a single cat home.
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Okay. These guys are talking about
rehoming.
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And they're serious about it. But it is
the worst idea because nobody's going to
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adopt a cat who pees around the house
five times a day, morning, noon, and
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night. I would love to meet Miles, but I
also want to see what his world looks
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like, okay?
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All right, let's go take a look. A lot
of times just seeing where a cat pees
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will tell me what he might be responding
to environmentally, and hopefully
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that's the case right now.
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Where's our boy?
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I think we lost him. I think he's under
the bed.
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Okay, that's cool. We can...
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Wow. This room's a lot smaller than I
thought it was going to be, man. This is
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small room.
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I can't believe that Miles has been
living in this small bedroom for over a
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year, and I can't believe that these
people, who I know are good people, felt
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like they had to lock him in this room
for over a year. It's not a solution.
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It's far from a solution.
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And that's the bathroom where he'll wind
up. Yep. Wow.
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That's an incredibly small bathroom.
That's an incredibly small bathroom,
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Damn. Well, you guys got to live with it
because it smells in here.
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You can smell the pee in here. Yes, we
can. So I'm just a little, I'm more than
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a little concerned.
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To think he goes into this bathroom,
which is an eighth of the size of the
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bedroom, is unbelievable.
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And it's got to stop.
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This is a bad situation.
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I mean, really, this is a bad situation.
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This is a bad situation.
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And we recognize that it's not a good
situation. Well, you guys got to live
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it because it smells in here. You can
smell the pee in here. I mean, there's
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way that that boy can pee four or five
times a day outside the box and he's in
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here that it's not going to smell. I
don't even know how these guys sleep
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let alone Miles live here.
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This room.
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Not good.
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What does he pee on in here? So right
here.
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Oh, yeah, you can't see it. So he pees
right along this wall here. And then
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along the window.
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Underneath the window.
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So he basically confines himself to
these two spots.
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Yeah. Lena has been growing up for 16
months while he's been in here.
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It's almost like he hasn't been here. He
lives like a completely separate life
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from the rest of the house. Yeah, it's
just like he's not really part of the
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family, which is sad.
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Yeah.
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Right now, with the information I have,
I don't know what Miles is responding
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to. I don't know if it's the environment
itself, if it's the other cats, if it's
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Lena, if it's something outside the
house, because it could be out there, it
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could be in here. I don't know, but
we've got to find out.
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So the bottom line is, you've got a very
stressed cat who is occupying an eighth
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of the territory that he needs to.
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He reacts to stress by peeing. But I
don't know what's causing his stress.
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got to find out what's causing it.
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So the first thing that we're going to
do is we're going to deal with some
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surveillance. I'm going to leave you
with some cameras. We're going to find
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what's happening when we can't see him.
Being able to see his stressy behavior I
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think is going to really help us to get
a better, fuller picture of how we can
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address this. So now we're going to move
into the world of getting him out of
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that room. So I'd like you guys to start
doing some supervised access with him.
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So that means that he's going to have
access to out here only when you guys
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be with him enough so that he doesn't
set himself up for failure.
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Also, the only way to see if he gets
along with the other cats is to get him
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with them.
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And then over the course of a couple
weeks, try to expand that time out a
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bit. Just let it happen for the length
of time that you guys feel comfortable.
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Maybe push it this much more. By
expanding Miles' territory, we're going
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if his anxiety actually decreases
because he's got access.
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Or it increases because he can't defend
all that territory.
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Now the next one is nighttime playtime.
Before you guys go to bed, we're going
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to play.
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I want them to really play him out so
that he's tired enough to go to bed when
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they go to bed and stay asleep while
they're asleep.
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You can't expect him to be chill when he
can't move around. Which leads us to no
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more shutting him in the bathroom.
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Period. You have to completely ignore
him. You don't yell at him. You don't...
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do anything because the attention that
he gets from that will say oh this works
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i don't want miles in that bathroom
period it's too small it's going to
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his anxiety tenfold he doesn't like
being behind closed doors he doesn't
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being separated from the rest of the
family we're doing both of them at the
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time and you can't breathe in there All
right, guys, take care, hang in there,
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and I'll see you soon. I'm concerned
about Miles coming out into the living
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and peeing and Lena getting into it, and
that's not a good situation.
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I'm here in Dallas to meet up with
Molly, who, with her cat Tabasco, has
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balanced a thriving business.
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with the business of rescuing and
fostering hundreds of cats here in the
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community. I cannot wait to meet her.
Hello, buddy.
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Hi. How are you? You're acting good. I'm
Molly.
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Good to meet you, Molly. Good to meet
you. And this must be Tabasco. I see
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you've already met Tabasco. My name is
Molly, and I have a marketing company.
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do marketing, branding, website.
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And together with my hero, Tabasco, we
help rescue cats.
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Now, you got Tabasco as a kitten?
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I did. I adopted him 13 years ago.
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The office cat.
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Tabasco is a cat basseter, we call him.
He greets people that come in the front
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door in the business and helps debunk
that myth that cats are aloof and mean.
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also helps with fosters, gives them a
sense of companionship while we're here.
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Who's that?
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That's Nyla.
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Hi, Nyla. Nyla came into the shelter
with a giant laceration on her rear leg.
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Jeez. Pretty confident.
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Not only the human interaction helps
make her feel confident and learn
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but she follows Tabasco around. So she
kind of learns what's appropriate and
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appropriate. It's nice to have that sort
of social bridge, that he is sort of a
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little behavior teacher, huh? He is.
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How did it start for you? About 10 years
ago, I started working at the Dallas
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Animal Services.
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I volunteer there every weekend. We get
over 30 ,000 animals a year brought in,
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underage litters of kittens, adult cats
with behavioral issues, of course. I'm
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sure because it's a municipal shelter
that you saw your fair share of tragic
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stories. You can't turn anybody away.
We'll take whatever you have, no matter
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how old or injured or broken.
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I mean, you're faced with a lot of
euthanasia in a shelter of that
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We are.
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A shelter system where you're always
this close to being completely
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and you have a cat that comes in that
needs to have a leg amputated or is
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paralyzed. You don't have the time, the
resources, the space, nothing.
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In many cities, those cats don't make it
out of the shelter.
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Such a huge need.
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Paralyzed amputees, those seem to be the
ones that I gravitate towards.
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Wow. It started with rescue kitty.
Here's this cat that's completely
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from the waist down. She climbed right
up my jacket and just put her arms
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me and buried her head in my chest. I
was like, oh, please. It's all over.
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I knew the shelter certainly wouldn't
have the resources to support for long
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-term care, but I knew I couldn't leave
her there. I brought her here, and it
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took about eight weeks from start to
finish, and she was walking.
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Unbelievable. I thought, somebody has to
do something here.
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So I decided because I had a 4 ,000
-square -foot building that we weren't
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all the space in. We dedicated one of
the offices to a foster room where cats
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are either too young or they're injured.
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In a foster home, not only are they
safer from disease, but they also get
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exposed to social interactions that help
to make them better cats.
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So Rescue Kitty, by basically picking
you, yeah completely threw you into a
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different world it did yeah so we have
the for -profit business that supports
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our non -profit efforts which is doing
as much as we possibly can to support
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cats in our community any proceeds we
get out of all the work that we do
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my business goes to pay for pet food pet
supplies things we donate feels good to
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be able to do something so right now in
your care
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Who else we got? We have Barney, Boots,
Buster, and Bandit.
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For some reason, that sounds like
kittens to me. Of course it is. You have
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litter of kittens. We have a litter of
kittens.
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Can I meet the kittens?
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Absolutely. Yay. Yay.
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Kittens. The kittens.
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Hi, little babies.
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This is our kitten foster room.
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And who do I have here?
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You have Barney.
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Hi, Barney.
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They were at the shelter and they only
weighed a pound.
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They need a place to hang and learn
about life and get lots of loving. And
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once they reach two pounds, we'll take
them back to the adoption room.
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They were pretty feral when they first
came in.
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Really? Yeah. And so this is the kind of
thing that you have people do. Exactly.
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Just hold and play with. And love on.
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Kiss, of course. The more we can expose
them to, the better adult cats they
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make. So we try to have as many people
in the building handle them as possible,
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and so when they go back, they'll be
great cats.
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You've got nobody here who's hiding in a
tube, who's hiding in the litter box.
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These guys will all go home in a
heartbeat.
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Molly has managed to create a beautiful,
nurturing space where these kittens can
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come in here and very rapidly get
socialized, get the right start in life,
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go off to home.
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where they probably won't get returned
because they've got their mojo on and
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they're going to adapt well.
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Molly, thank you so much. I think the
work you're doing is amazing.
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Keep it up. Thank you.
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I love stories like this. I mean, Molly
decided to throw herself into the
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solution here to make sure that all of
Dallas knows every cat counts.
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Every night he still pees.
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One night, it happened at 3 a .m., he
peed on the wall. 4 a .m., he peed on
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wall. 5 a .m., he peed on the wall. Wow.
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No!
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I'm back from my second visit with
Alyssa and Kristen and their cat, Miles.
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Now, Miles had been peeing around the
house so much for so long that he got
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locked away in the back bedroom for over
a year.
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Now, I've had them grant him access to
the house.
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Hopefully, that hasn't backfired.
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Hey, Jackson.
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Hey. Hi. How are you doing? Good. How
are you? I'm good.
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I can't help but notice I see an open
door. Is this like supervised out time
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happening right now? Yeah.
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Great.
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So clearly, things have to be going
okay.
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How are you guys feeling?
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We're a little tired.
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Why? The nights have been rough.
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With Miles having to sleep with us all
night long, that's been a little
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exhausting. Well, you know what? Let's
just get to it. I want to check out your
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video homework and see exactly where
we're at.
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All right, here we go.
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He's just still a very vocal cat. So
from three to five.
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He's meowing, scratching at the door. Oh
my gosh, he's like a prairie dog.
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How many times have you cleaned up pee
in the past couple weeks?
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Every night he still peed in our
bedroom.
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One night it happened at 3 a .m. he peed
on the wall, we cleaned it. 4 a .m. he
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peed on the wall, we cleaned it. 5 a .m.
he peed on the wall. Wow. In the same
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area. What area was that?
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Under the window. Under the window.
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Okay, what I'm thinking right now is
that this cat has no territory
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Being cordoned into a room or out of a
room is causing him a lot of anxiety.
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Having free passage, I think, would
solve part of the problem.
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I keep on walking away to go take care
of Lena. And when I come back, they're
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like, fine, no drama, just eating.
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That was great. This is them getting to
know each other again.
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And I love the fact that we get to see
what this normal body language is. Sort
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of a reintroduction dance.
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I've been giving these guys these salmon
treats, and they go so crazy for them
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that they don't even mind being an inch
from each other.
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That's our good boy.
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Let's just dispel any myths that these
three cats are in any way enemies.
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Now that Miles has access to the rest of
the house, we get to see behavior like
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eating out of the same bowl at the same
time. That's game over in terms of the
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competition. Let's just call them
friends.
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Great shot. You guys are getting all of
it.
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There we go.
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He really likes the laser pointer.
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Lean again into the egg.
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Whoa.
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Love it. I was playing with the boys,
and Miles got scared. Even though none
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the cats were bothering him, he ran down
the hall and peed right there.
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He got scared. Do you know of what?
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No. It seemed like when we first took
him out to play with him, when he'd get
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really into it and do a big jump, he'd
get embarrassed or scared and run. So
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he's scaring himself, really. He gets up
into that really crazed place, and he
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scares himself, and that leads him to
pee. A little bit. But the play was
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to drain his energy, not stress him out.
You want to talk about an irrational
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response. You're playing, your energy
gets piqued, you jump in the air, and
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own jump scares you enough that you run
down the hall and pee. That lets you
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know that Miles' responses are just not
all there.
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Now I'll probably check out the litter
box.
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And then go pee on the wall.
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Here we go.
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No! Don't let it happen.
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I agree!
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Because the only reason I said
supervised access was so that you
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stop him. I don't always let him, but in
that case... Okay, well, okay. Let's
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say you weren't filming it for me. You
wouldn't let him do it. I probably would
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have brought him into our room. Okay.
What you're doing is you're taking the
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neuroses that he has, which is I don't
own this spot, and I have to over -own
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it. And he feels like every time I leave
this room... I better leave my mark
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because it's temporary.
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You guys captured a lot of great stuff
on here. Yeah, we took our homework very
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seriously. You did take your homework
seriously, which goes back to where I
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you. I mean, when we first met, rehoming
was very much on the table.
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What I want to know is, are you guys
still considering it? Are you still at
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place right now?
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Yeah, it's still on the table because we
can't continue to live like this. We're
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still worried about Miles peeing
somewhere that we don't notice and Lena
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it. That being said, we're not going to
drop him off at a shelter no matter how
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hard it gets.
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Because he matters to us. We love him
and we want him to be happy.
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Right. If we can make him regulated and
better, then obviously he's staying with
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us. Right. I get it.
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I guess this is really intolerable.
Normally, if a couple says something
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rehoming their cat if we can't solve the
problem, I'll come down pretty hard on
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them. But nobody wants to wake up in the
middle of the night to have a cat
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peeing inches from your face, let alone
having it happen on the hour, every
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hour. That's a lot to ask of anybody.
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I am absolutely determined to stay on
the bright side of this whole thing. Mm
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-hmm. So I'm... Hey, baby boy.
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Hello, baby boy.
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Miles.
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Hi, Miles, my friend.
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Now he's going into Lena's room. That
does make us nervous.
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Why? When Lena was not here, that was
actually his favorite room to pee in.
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I am just hoping that this cat has not
peed in Lena's room somewhere because if
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that happens, doors are going to close
again, trust is gone, we're back to
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square one, and this family can't take
that.
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He was just in the corner.
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Uh -oh. The bad news is I smell pee.
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You know, I'm looking around, and
there's no pee where Miles was, so
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news, but I still smell something. I
just don't know where it came from.
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Oh, there's also a diaper pail right in
front of me. I'm happy to report back to
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the Guardian. Miles had access. He went
into Lena's room, sniffed around, and
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decided, I don't need to do anything.
I'm good right now. That's something to
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celebrate. Okay, so, I don't think he
peed in there, but I smell...
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But that's also because my nose was
right by the diaper pail. Yeah. So I
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that that's kind of what I was smelling.
I think so. Yeah. So it wasn't a bad
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experience, and there's no pee in there,
and yay.
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Yeah. I think we're in a good place
right now. I think process -wise, we're
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where I would hope to be, with the
exception of four or five pees in a room
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during the night.
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But I have a plan to minimize that as
well.
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From what I'm seeing, the peeing is not
based on competition with the other cats
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for resources.
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They eat out of the same dish. They play
with the same toy. They hang out in the
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same area. So what it's about is his
inability to regulate his anxious
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to normal energetic spikes.
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His energy starts to peak.
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And he's like, I only know to do one
thing to regulate my own anxiety in this
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moment, and that's pee. Which leads me
to conclude that we need to medicate
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Miles. If Miles were my cat, I would...
put him the medication because the
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peeing is not just a response to his
environment to some degree or another
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an irrational response to his
environment not just putting medication
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as a cure -all you have the ability to
predict half the time when he's going to
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do it knowing that that's happening
means that we can prevent part of
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and prevention is redirection so instead
of removing him which from now
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on that's done your laser pointer is on
Guard. Out it comes. Guide him right
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here. Redirect that energy onto
something positive so that he can
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himself. Also, I want you to continue
with your surveillance work because
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now we know that your room is one of the
prime spots.
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Let's get surveillance outside the
window as well.
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Now, that being said, I have one other
thing for you guys.
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Uh -oh. He's going to say open the
doors.
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Yeah.
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You're like laughing and crying at the
same time. But here's the thing. I want
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you to do it as an experiment.
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Okay? Open that door. But do it after
you've done your routines, and I don't
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think that he's going to pee four times
in a night out here.
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I don't know any other way that I can
control Miles' energy except for to give
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him what he wants, which is getting his
energy out in the rest of the house with
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00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:31,609
the other cats.
442
00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:35,090
I know that I'm asking for a lot between
this time and the next time we see each
443
00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:38,750
other, but I kind of got a feeling that
with all these things in place, we're
444
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:39,609
going to be okay.
445
00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:42,630
Okay. All right, guys. I will see you in
just a few weeks' time.
446
00:25:43,370 --> 00:25:46,770
Hang in there. Thank you. Thank you. All
right. I still feel like we have a very
447
00:25:46,770 --> 00:25:51,610
long way to go. We're still worried
about pee behavior because of Lena, and
448
00:25:51,610 --> 00:25:54,030
rehoming will be on the table as long as
the peeing continues.
449
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:59,190
I am so pumped right now.
450
00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:03,970
I'm with a whole bunch of men who
clearly have done something in their
451
00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:09,750
wind up in a prison, but they are proud
of their cat, their dog, their role in
452
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,650
things. Immediately I know that I'm in
for something good here.
453
00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:26,210
My name is Vicki Scott.
454
00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:31,470
I'm the president of the Animal Advocate
Organization, a rescue group in
455
00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:36,890
Barnwell, South Carolina, where we have
a rescue adoption foster center.
456
00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:46,470
We're here today at Allendale
Correctional Institution.
457
00:26:51,139 --> 00:26:55,160
where we have a fostering program that
we call Meow Mate and Mutt Mate.
458
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,900
This is a new one for me. I'm here to
meet up with Vicki Scott, whose program,
459
00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:05,220
Meow Mates, has saved the lives of over
300 animals and, in the process, has
460
00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:08,800
transformed what was one of the roughest
prisons in the system.
461
00:27:10,060 --> 00:27:13,040
For all of us coming in here, I mean,
this is not easy.
462
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:18,430
You get all of our stuff in, the whole
crew, and there's a lot of checks and
463
00:27:18,430 --> 00:27:19,430
doors and locks.
464
00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:24,150
Once you get in here, however, it is
peaceful.
465
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:30,350
Hello. Come on, Vicki. So good to meet
you. Great to meet you as well.
466
00:27:30,610 --> 00:27:34,850
For the program here, we pull animals
from our county shelter where the
467
00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:37,490
euthanasia rate has been as high as 98%.
468
00:27:38,010 --> 00:27:43,010
The animals go on a two -month rotation,
live with the men 24 -7 in the cells
469
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:47,670
before they can be up for adoption. The
inmates just make them so much more
470
00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:49,270
socialized and adoptable.
471
00:27:49,670 --> 00:27:50,670
Hi there.
472
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:54,670
I'm John Pate. Good to meet you. Good to
have you at our institution.
473
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:57,810
This is going to be fantastic. Well, we
have a wonderful program and can't wait
474
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:58,810
for you to see it.
475
00:28:00,770 --> 00:28:01,770
Jackson, I'm Jeffery.
476
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,500
Jeffrey, good to meet you. I'm the
program leader of the overall Meow Mate
477
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:09,120
Mate program here at Allendale. This is
our cat wing.
478
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,480
I cannot believe all these cats walking
around in here, man.
479
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:19,720
This is the most exciting thing I've
ever seen in my life. I'm not kidding
480
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,180
Cats everywhere.
481
00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:26,160
And they're just wandering around, no
fear, all social.
482
00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:30,100
It was beyond my wildest dreams. What's
this cat's name?
483
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,340
Missy, hi, babe.
484
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,860
I usually, I go to houses cats aren't
this social, man. They're just like
485
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:38,680
the bed, on top of the fridge.
486
00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:41,340
In 2013, we brought two cats.
487
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,740
And after about a month, the warden
called me and said, when are you
488
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:50,680
more? And it's just grown each year. Now
we have about 25 to 30 cats here on a
489
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,680
regular basis.
490
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,620
Hey, who's this?
491
00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:55,380
Hi, babe.
492
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,840
Who are you?
493
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,320
Hi, how are you, man?
494
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,600
There's no way to translate what I'm
seeing in the state of South Carolina.
495
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,840
These inmates' faces have to be blurred.
But the faces are beaming. This feeling
496
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,000
of pride coming off of all these men.
They are proud of their cats, their
497
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,240
their role in things.
498
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,120
Immediately I know that I'm in for
something good here. When you think
499
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,280
fact that every single one of these cats
would probably be dead because you had
500
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,260
a 98 % kill rate at the shelter.
501
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:26,960
Not just the cats.
502
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,780
The cats, the dogs, and a lot of these
men.
503
00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:33,000
I mean, we're not just saving four
-legged lives here. We're saving two
504
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,800
lives. Honestly, that part is clearly
one of the best things.
505
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:43,400
Having to dedicate yourself to this
animal, and this animal relying on you,
506
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200
know, there's a shift inside of you
where you begin to feel empathy.
507
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Nothing has changed me or had the effect
on me that caring for these animals has
508
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
had. So this is a typical cat room.
Okay.
509
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,620
We've got our two bunks, desk, two
lockers, the shelf.
510
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,840
We've got the litter box that you saw
when you came in. And then her food and
511
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,100
litter dish is right there under the
locker. She probably pushes it around a
512
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:11,300
good bit. Well, when you think about the
fact that I work with human families
513
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:15,960
who don't even want a litter box in
their living room, I don't want to look
514
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,260
it, I can't stand litter boxes. These
guys have a litter box this close to
515
00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:25,220
bed. They've got food stacked up because
they love these cats.
516
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,060
A little lesson to be learned there.
517
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,000
Each cat belongs to a certain room. Is
that how it goes? Well, for a period of
518
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,220
time. Right.
519
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,680
We do a rotation.
520
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800
They either rotate out or they rotate
from one room to another.
521
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,940
Because if we have one for two days,
we're attached.
522
00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:46,080
I've been incarcerated since I was 17
years old. An environment where the only
523
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,660
thing I needed to look out for is self.
524
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,340
So to put everything that I want to do
to the side and say, I have to focus on
525
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,100
this four -ounce kitten.
526
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,960
It melts a lot of the selfishness out of
guys.
527
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:00,500
This is our library.
528
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:05,180
We have a lot of dog training, dog
psychology, different types of dogs.
529
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:07,280
them are dogs. You know what? Let's just
stop right there.
530
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:14,140
We really do need some cat books here.
Just let it be said that there will be
531
00:31:14,140 --> 00:31:16,700
cat books at Allendale very soon.
532
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Lots of cat books.
533
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:21,470
And Jackson, over in this corner, we
have a microscope.
534
00:31:21,790 --> 00:31:24,930
Absolutely. We do fecal examinations and
we do ear cytology.
535
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:29,350
What the? So anytime we're concerned
about bowel movement of an animal, we
536
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:33,930
get a sample, put it on the microscope.
We can diagnose whipworms, coccidia,
537
00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:35,570
which is some really nasty stuff, you
know.
538
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:39,830
None of my clients know how to put poop
under a microscope and figure out what's
539
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:41,130
in there. Are you kidding? It's
incredible.
540
00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:46,050
I mean, the whole system that's in
place, when you consider that it is a
541
00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:49,620
within a correctional institution, is
bananas.
542
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,760
One of the leaders in our program.
543
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,640
I was terrified of cats.
544
00:31:54,020 --> 00:31:58,940
When I started working here, I was my
first cat. I got bit the first time, but
545
00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:02,220
eventually got over it, and now I'm
clipping cat nails and cleaning their
546
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,240
and giving them baths sometimes if they
need it.
547
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:09,040
You're the first person I've ever known
to go from being petrified of cats to
548
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920
giving them a bath. So congratulations.
549
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:16,920
This gentleman was afraid of cats. He
comes here. He faces his fear. The fact
550
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,940
that this is being highlighted in such
an incredible way is mind -blowing to
551
00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:27,080
If I have a life sentence, the
possibility of me getting out is
552
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:33,080
But if I have to spend the rest of my
life taking care of these dogs and cats,
553
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,080
mean, that's all right with me.
554
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,860
Vicki's work doesn't stop at Meow Mates.
There's also Mutt Mates. We have 25
555
00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:46,160
dogs. Of course, I'm known as the cat
guy, obviously, but I love dogs. I have
556
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880
dogs, and I'm excited to see some dogs
here, for sure.
557
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,400
That's a good girl.
558
00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:51,820
Ready. Sit.
559
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:53,540
Feet.
560
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,960
Yes. Hold. Yes. Now.
561
00:32:56,780 --> 00:32:58,160
That's it. That a boy. Yes.
562
00:32:58,420 --> 00:32:59,399
Yeah, baby.
563
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,560
That is the most adoptable dog on the
planet.
564
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,540
To date, we've had over 300 animals pass
through these gates.
565
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:11,290
most of which have been adopted directly
from the prison, and it's been very
566
00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:16,030
successful. It's a win -win for both our
rescue group and the men here in
567
00:33:16,030 --> 00:33:20,130
prison. This is our memorial garden for
one of our early cats in the program,
568
00:33:20,510 --> 00:33:24,870
Gypsy. Gypsy came into the center. She
was not in very good shape at all. She
569
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:29,790
started to come around, and a guy that
previously was a pretty violent felon in
570
00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:33,690
here, and Gypsy helped him as he helped
her, really turned his wife around.
571
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,620
Unfortunately, she had a turn for the
worse and didn't come back around.
572
00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:40,860
So this is our memorial garden for
little gypsies. That's so sweet.
573
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:46,920
If not for the second chance afforded
these animals by this program, every
574
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,960
single one of them would be euthanized.
And without the second chance afforded
575
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,060
the men in our prisons, we've wasted all
of their lives.
576
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:57,820
Whoever you are, you deserve a second
chance.
577
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,160
I look at her like I do me.
578
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640
I went through a rough time on the
streets. I've been through a lot of
579
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,680
and abused.
580
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,199
She's been abused.
581
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,679
So we relate.
582
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,500
And now I'm helping her get over her
abuse and she's helping me get over
583
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:20,659
Amen. It is essential that programs like
this get a very bright light shined on
584
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:25,139
them. And when you're talking about a
county where the kill rate at the
585
00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:30,600
was nearly 100%, it is one of the most
perfect examples I've ever seen of
586
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,600
innovative thought.
587
00:34:31,929 --> 00:34:36,850
putting your money where your mouth is,
and the results being beyond anybody's
588
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:37,589
wildest dreams.
589
00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:43,030
Just looking at their faces, the
absolute pride and love that they have
590
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:44,650
these animals is undeniable.
591
00:34:45,070 --> 00:34:50,429
We wanted Jackson to come and see this
to open the minds of people, not only
592
00:34:50,429 --> 00:34:56,510
about a partnership such as this, but
also the good side of these men that are
593
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:58,610
here. They've done an incredible job.
594
00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:01,490
Many of them have never loved anything
before.
595
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,840
Or felt loved.
596
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,100
I've had men tell me that they get off
their medicine that they were having to
597
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,900
take. They don't have to. That's
incredible.
598
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,580
Hundreds of men have gone through this
program and become better people.
599
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:16,940
I don't usually gush like this. I'm so
absolutely overwhelmed.
600
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,060
You guys have saved 300 lives plus.
601
00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:21,620
Those are just the animals.
602
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Yes, we're just counting. I feel so
blessed to be in this position to do
603
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:29,620
And so appreciative.
604
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,320
I wanted to make sure that I left you
with just something. This is
605
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:46,020
food from our friends at Chewy .com.
Well, thank you. You're very welcome. So
606
00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:50,860
grateful for that. It's an amazing
story, and honestly, it's one that
607
00:35:50,860 --> 00:35:52,240
really should know about. Now they will.
608
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,480
You have an open invitation to return
anytime you like. Hopefully, it'll be
609
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,500
under good circumstances.
610
00:35:57,740 --> 00:36:00,660
Either way, you're welcome. Either way,
I'm welcome.
611
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,660
Thank you for everything that you're
doing. What you're doing for these
612
00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:08,900
is beyond my ability to express.
613
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Thank you. Take care, guys. There is a
very strange adjustment that your mind
614
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,500
has to make while you're standing in a
prison.
615
00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:24,110
You're in a space with a whole bunch of
men who clearly have done something in
616
00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:27,950
their life to wind up here, but their
interaction with these animals is so
617
00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:29,450
gentle and loving.
618
00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:34,110
I have seen so much care, so much
innovation, so much passion.
619
00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:38,470
I swear I have been around the block and
I haven't seen it many times in my
620
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:39,930
life. It's amazing.
621
00:36:43,210 --> 00:36:46,610
Miles was peeing, what was it? About
four to five times a day. Let's start
622
00:36:46,610 --> 00:36:48,230
taking a look at your video homework.
623
00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:51,170
Wait, what's this?
624
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:52,750
Oh, that's Miles peeing on the wall.
625
00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:56,490
I am so worried that I'm going to be
finding him a new home today.
626
00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:15,600
I'm back for my third visit with Alyssa
and Kristen and their cat, Miles.
627
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:19,560
The last time I was here, Miles had gone
a long way to repairing his
628
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,980
relationship with the other cats in the
house, but he was still very anxious and
629
00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:24,480
peeing all over the place.
630
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,060
Alyssa and Kristen were very much on the
fence because they were concerned about
631
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:34,180
their daughter, Lena, wondering, was
this the right home for Miles? And I'm
632
00:37:34,180 --> 00:37:37,960
worried that I'm going to be finding him
a new home today. The last time I was
633
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,380
here, Miles was peeing four times a day,
something like that. Yeah.
634
00:37:41,770 --> 00:37:42,950
Has the peeing itself gone down?
635
00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:44,830
Definitely. Cool.
636
00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:47,610
I want to get into your video homework.
637
00:37:47,850 --> 00:37:48,850
Here we go.
638
00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:50,870
Who we got there?
639
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:53,870
I don't recognize that cat. I don't even
know that cat.
640
00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:59,690
That is a big, fat calico. There's no
collar. Well fed, though.
641
00:38:00,130 --> 00:38:01,550
So where is this?
642
00:38:01,770 --> 00:38:03,250
That's right outside our bedroom.
643
00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:08,310
Right where he's peeing. There is a real
threat outside the bedroom window where
644
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:09,790
any cat will go nuts.
645
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,120
It's not just Miles.
646
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,720
It's very common with all cats.
647
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,920
I can predict what's going to happen
next.
648
00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:16,140
Let's take a look.
649
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,520
That's Miles peeing on the wall.
650
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,460
That's basically the opposite side of
where those animals are.
651
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,180
This is a big deal to him. So we're
going to have to put something outside
652
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:31,880
bedroom window that's a deterrent. We
have to deter these animals away from
653
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:37,000
window. Puffing air or water will train
these animals to maybe go on someone
654
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,859
else's yard.
655
00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:39,620
Was that recent or was it before meds?
656
00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:44,160
That was before med a week ago today.
And then we added the medicine, and
657
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,640
are some days where there's no pee at
all.
658
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,680
It's amazing.
659
00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:51,380
Yeah. So we know that this medication
takes about four to six weeks to really
660
00:38:51,380 --> 00:38:52,680
hit maximum efficacy.
661
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:57,240
And after a week, we're down to some
days we don't have anything going on.
662
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Yep. That goes really, really well.
663
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,720
Okay. Our new homework was to play with
him any time we felt like he was going
664
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:08,698
to pee.
665
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,000
And it seems to be working amazingly.
666
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,960
We do have to pull out a toy and play
with him like five times a night.
667
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,320
But, hey, that's better than pulling out
the cleaner and the paper towel.
668
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:21,660
Got that right.
669
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:26,280
Here's the crew after a nice play
session.
670
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Play and eat.
671
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,340
Look where he is.
672
00:39:29,620 --> 00:39:35,540
Right in the middle of the room, nice
and down like that. That tells me you
673
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,479
good on the play.
674
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,480
Moving on.
675
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,840
noticing that at night Max and Maury
were jumping in the bed with us,
676
00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:45,060
immediately faking their claim, and then
when Miles would jump up on the bed,
677
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,740
they'd hiss, and it'd create a lot of
tension.
678
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,340
So instead of giving the cats free roam
of our bedroom at night, we do that
679
00:39:54,340 --> 00:39:57,100
during the day. That seems to be working
really well.
680
00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:02,140
He hasn't been meowing to get out of the
room, and he hasn't peed, though.
681
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Nope. He's been sleeping through the
night. Really well.
682
00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:07,260
All good things.
683
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,960
That's fantastic.
684
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,860
That kind of territorial juggling is
going to happen. They're going to work
685
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:17,260
out in there just like they worked it
out in here. The one thing I would tell
686
00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:21,200
you guys to do, take play time, start
dragging it into the room. Give them
687
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,960
activities in that room so they're not
just looking at each other, they've got
688
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,960
something to do.
689
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,240
You know, it's really hard to read this
couple. I mean, Miles' progress has been
690
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,480
steady this entire time.
691
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:35,140
Hopefully it's enough to prove to Alyssa
and Kristen that this rehoming thing is
692
00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:36,140
completely unnecessary.
693
00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:41,830
I would assume that you feel better at
this moment, but I want to be able to
694
00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:45,150
walk away from here knowing that that
place that you guys were at where you
695
00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:47,670
like, I think we may have to talk about
rehoming him.
696
00:40:48,270 --> 00:40:49,270
Is he here to stay?
697
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:52,410
Um...
698
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,080
I want to be able to walk away from here
knowing that that place that you guys
699
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,660
were at, where you were like, I think we
may have to talk about rehoming him. Is
700
00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:08,660
he here to stay?
701
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,540
Um, he's here to stay.
702
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,880
He's here to stay, yeah.
703
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,840
Good. We definitely feel very positive
change.
704
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,800
I love to see him interacting with Lena
and rubbing against her. That's
705
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,380
fantastic. Miles is 100 % here to stay.
706
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:26,020
Speaking of our boy, I want to take
advantage of the fact that he's right
707
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:28,300
You guys stay where you are. I'm going
to hang with him for a minute.
708
00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:31,710
Come here, Miles, my love. Miles.
709
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:35,690
I am so happy with you.
710
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:38,850
Yes, my good boy.
711
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:43,150
I definitely feel like I'm getting a
little bit of feedback from Miles, a
712
00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:46,950
thank you, a little phew. He loves it
when I'm petting him. I'm not just
713
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:50,630
satisfied with where Miles is right now.
I am absolutely giddy about his
714
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:54,190
progress. Bye, guys. Bye. Take care of
yourselves, okay? Thank you so much.
715
00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:57,050
Before Jackson, we felt so duck.
716
00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:02,950
And now we feel like we've got a handle
on who Miles is, what his stressors are,
717
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:06,810
and what we can do to help him. To be
here where we are, it's like kind of
718
00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:10,050
amazing. All we feel is hope. We
wouldn't have been able to do it without
719
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:11,130
Jackson. We'll play.
720
00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:12,710
We'll play.
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