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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:03,600 Posey is literally the most terrifying thing on the planet. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,220 Hi. Do me the favor of not kicking my ass. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,520 Whoa! 4 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:13,100 I don't know what to do from here. 5 00:00:15,420 --> 00:00:17,280 Ideal just sort of paralyzed right now. 6 00:00:18,540 --> 00:00:20,760 Was Skinny the biggest guy you've ever worked with? Yes. 7 00:00:20,980 --> 00:00:24,380 He could barely walk three feet without having to lay down and rest. Oh my God. 8 00:00:24,420 --> 00:00:26,060 When he would stand up, his legs would shake. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Wow. This is our big underwater treadmill. This is one of our 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,700 rehab. This is a couple of years' process to get him out of the woods. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Look at this. It's a marmalade. It is the colon marmalade. 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,860 This is what I flew across the country for, the famous colon marmalade. He's 13 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:50,380 like, I know I'm famous and all, but look at the cat guy. Please don't try to 14 00:00:50,380 --> 00:00:51,380 fix me. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Whoa. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,260 Holy! I'm Jackson Galaxy. 17 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:56,500 What the hell, man? 18 00:00:56,780 --> 00:01:01,480 The animal behaviors that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,420 cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have her. 20 00:01:04,660 --> 00:01:05,660 Damn. 21 00:01:06,020 --> 00:01:10,660 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 22 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:11,780 my help. This is fun. 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,920 Hi, my name is Dino. This is my wife, Shannon. 24 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:29,440 We've been together for nine years, and we have a four -year -old cat named 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,660 Posey. She is the sweetest cat we could possibly have and literally the most 26 00:01:34,660 --> 00:01:36,100 terrifying thing on the planet. 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,240 I decided I wanted to get a cat, so I went online, and I found Posey. We fell 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,018 love with her. 29 00:01:44,020 --> 00:01:48,500 Initially, she was the sweetest, loveliest little kitten on the planet, 30 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:51,520 she grew older, we found out that wasn't the case. 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,260 She started scratching us all the time, biting. 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,000 You can be cuddling with her one moment, and the next moment she's literally 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,420 trying to claw your arms off. 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,680 When she goes crazy, she 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,940 gets so aggressive that she breaks the skin. 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,200 That's just today. 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,120 And, you know, we're both covered in scars. 38 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:24,480 So we are left in this... They have constant fear of her. 39 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:28,780 On top of that, I'm eight months pregnant right now. 40 00:02:30,780 --> 00:02:35,460 And that is honestly our biggest fear. When we bring the baby home, we have no 41 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:40,260 idea how Posey's going to react to it. And we've gotten used to her attacking 42 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:43,320 us, but I can't have her attack the baby. 43 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:49,060 The stakes are super high for us because... We have to worry about the 44 00:02:49,060 --> 00:02:49,679 our baby. 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,780 But also because we know that nobody would take Posey, her life is at stake 46 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,240 And I don't even want to think about losing her. 47 00:03:01,380 --> 00:03:05,760 We really, really need Jackson to help us because we don't know what else to 48 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:07,440 Jackson's our last hope. 49 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:26,650 This is our cat Posey on her Tower of Terror. Yeah, let's talk about Posey. 50 00:03:27,530 --> 00:03:31,110 Yes, I'm almost eight months pregnant. 51 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:33,950 Okay. So we're kind of like getting down to the wire here. 52 00:03:34,150 --> 00:03:37,990 Yeah. When we told our friends that I was pregnant, they all said, 53 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:40,610 congratulations, what are you going to do with the cat? 54 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:43,930 There's one thing I've learned over the years, newborn babies and aggressive 55 00:03:43,930 --> 00:03:45,610 cats, not a good mix. 56 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:50,160 She can be super sweet. But at a moment's notice, she'll go from purring 57 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,860 swiping at you or getting incredibly violent. We call it she turns. 58 00:03:54,420 --> 00:03:56,460 Sometimes we just have to throw her off of us. 59 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,420 Right, because you see it's about to happen. Because she's going to attack. 60 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:02,940 like, puts her paw on you and just stares at you. 61 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,740 And then, like, the claws will come out. Oh, wow. If you don't, like, respond to 62 00:04:08,740 --> 00:04:12,060 what she wants. The best way to describe our relationship is an abusive 63 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:14,240 relationship. It's hostage -taking, right? 64 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:21,430 Yeah. Exactly. At what point did you guys start to realize there's something 65 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:22,129 with our cat? 66 00:04:22,130 --> 00:04:25,110 I think when she was like eight months old. Yeah, there it is. 67 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,180 Yeah, that's exactly what it was, what I was looking for. When I hear about 68 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:34,040 sudden onset of aggression at about eight months old, I suspect at this 69 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,600 that there's some kind of chemical component to what's going on here. I've 70 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,540 it happen time and time again. All of a sudden, out of the blue, and really 71 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:42,540 serious aggression. 72 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,640 I think that's where we're headed. I'm fine with always having scratches and 73 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,460 cuts and everything, but the other day she did a burnout off my belly. I can't 74 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:53,740 have her attack the baby. That's my biggest fear. 75 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,900 That scar on Shannon's belly, it really kicked up the stakes for me in a huge 76 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:00,900 way. 77 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:04,460 Sorry. 78 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:11,480 I just, I love her so much, but sometimes I wish that I didn't have her. 79 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:19,780 We don't know what else to do because if she attacks the baby, like, I can't. 80 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,700 I can't in good conscience, like, keep her around. 81 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:25,160 No one will take her because she's violent. 82 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,760 If we put her in a shelter, they're going to put her to sleep. 83 00:05:27,980 --> 00:05:31,300 And I can't have that. I love her. Yeah, we love her. I mean, she's a member of 84 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:32,039 our family. 85 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,820 I love the fact that she is your family. And that hits me, you know what I mean? 86 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:41,380 Because so many instances like this, cat's on the street, gone. 87 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,040 So the fact that you give her the weight that she deserves in your home, you 88 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,980 know, makes me want to work harder for you guys. 89 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:50,630 So I'm going to tell you something right now, just because I'm in her line of 90 00:05:50,630 --> 00:05:51,589 fire. Yeah. 91 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:56,630 Stop petting her. Okay. Okay, because every time you touch her, she's ramping 92 00:05:56,630 --> 00:06:01,230 a little bit. Her tail is starting to go. And all we're doing through the 93 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:03,930 petting is putting a little more static in that body. Okay. 94 00:06:04,910 --> 00:06:06,510 Yeah, see, this is when I get nervous. 95 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:12,690 In situations like this, what I'm going to do is pretend to completely ignore 96 00:06:12,690 --> 00:06:15,990 the cat. I don't want my body to stiffen up. I don't want to send out energy 97 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:17,450 that's going to set off the cat. 98 00:06:17,950 --> 00:06:22,150 But believe you me, I got one eye on that cat right now. I've never seen her 99 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:23,210 this. Oh! 100 00:06:24,450 --> 00:06:25,450 Posey, no! 101 00:06:25,490 --> 00:06:29,050 On a scale of 1 to 9 -1 -1, Posey's up there. 102 00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:30,610 She's unpredictable. 103 00:06:31,130 --> 00:06:33,450 If her body says go, she goes. 104 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:35,790 It's like being around a bomb with no fuse. 105 00:06:36,910 --> 00:06:41,770 I know, baby, I know. She went from nothing to that. 106 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:44,430 So she basically just sniffed my ear. 107 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:47,950 She's going to get you from behind right now because she just got on our cat 108 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:48,950 tree. 109 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:51,910 Okay, so now this is the Tower of Terror. Yes. 110 00:06:52,330 --> 00:06:57,730 And, of course, every time I move my hands, she is on the hands, right? Oh, 111 00:06:57,730 --> 00:06:59,090 she's just wanting a piece of me. 112 00:06:59,290 --> 00:07:03,510 Yeah. The Tower of Terror right in the middle of the major lane of traffic, 113 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:08,570 right at eyeball level. That's going to change. Do you have a space here set for 114 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:10,190 a nursery? In our bedroom. In our bedroom. 115 00:07:10,590 --> 00:07:11,590 Oh, God. 116 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:15,810 Yeah. Normally, she sleeps with us at night. Yeah. But once we have the baby, 117 00:07:15,810 --> 00:07:20,610 can't have her sleep with us. I don't trust the cat anywhere near the child. 118 00:07:20,610 --> 00:07:21,610 I don't either. 119 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:25,850 Having the bedroom and the nursery be the exact same thing, that puts us 120 00:07:25,850 --> 00:07:30,650 the eight ball in a huge way with Posey. Because even if we wanted to segregate 121 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:34,350 her sometimes away from the baby, we just can't. How about you guys? 122 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:39,290 Take a hike, and I will call you when I'm ready, okay? Usually I'll go through 123 00:07:39,290 --> 00:07:43,210 number of processes to try to gauge where the challenge line is. 124 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:46,550 Let's see if we can just have a little conversation right now. 125 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:48,350 It's just hands. 126 00:07:48,610 --> 00:07:54,330 Usually I would put my hand in and hope that she can make rational choices so 127 00:07:54,330 --> 00:07:57,390 that I don't have to have this really difficult conversation with her 128 00:07:59,390 --> 00:08:00,390 That's the flack. 129 00:08:03,090 --> 00:08:04,090 No hands? 130 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,320 Here, how about no hands? 131 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,660 Look over here, baby. 132 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:08,980 Hi. 133 00:08:09,260 --> 00:08:10,260 Whoa. 134 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Damn it. 135 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,320 Listen, dude, if I am going to close my eyes to you, maybe you do me the favor 136 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,660 of not kicking my ass. 137 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:21,580 I'm sorry, baby, I'm scared of you. 138 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,320 I'm brave, but I ain't stupid. 139 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,380 I closed my eyes to her, and she just about took my scalp off. 140 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,260 Oh, you better show me your best side. 141 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:33,409 Or show me that you have a best side, because your situation is not a good one 142 00:08:33,409 --> 00:08:34,409 right now. 143 00:08:34,510 --> 00:08:35,510 Hi. 144 00:08:35,870 --> 00:08:40,770 Wow. No matter what I do, she doesn't trust me. She thinks that my hand is a 145 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:42,630 thing. It's a total threat to her. 146 00:08:44,010 --> 00:08:47,410 She is ready to strike out at any second. 147 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:52,750 Whoa. Okay, you got me that time. 148 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:57,390 You know, usually I'll try to push a cat's challenge line to figure out where 149 00:08:57,390 --> 00:08:59,770 is that comfort turns the challenge. 150 00:09:00,130 --> 00:09:04,230 Posey doesn't have a line. It just changes every couple of seconds. 151 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:10,730 I don't have anything to grab onto here with Posey, and it makes me feel 152 00:09:10,730 --> 00:09:11,790 increasingly at risk. 153 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:21,110 So, lip licking, avoidance, tail swag. 154 00:09:22,570 --> 00:09:23,870 I don't know what to do with you. 155 00:09:24,650 --> 00:09:29,410 Now, in this position, my love, you can do anything you want to me. I'm just 156 00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:33,030 hoping you won't. I'm going to introduce the toy right now to see if she can 157 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:34,710 engage in a constructive way. 158 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:37,590 And I'm going to grab one of your toys. Can I grab one of your toys? 159 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:41,230 Where's that? 160 00:09:41,770 --> 00:09:46,190 I can't get her to focus on the toy. She sees the toy as a threat. She's got her 161 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:50,530 eyes locked on me, and if I make a false move, she's letting me know she's going 162 00:09:50,530 --> 00:09:52,070 to come at me, and she's going to come at me hard. 163 00:09:52,530 --> 00:09:53,750 See? There's a toy. 164 00:09:54,450 --> 00:09:55,429 There's a hand. 165 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:56,430 Whoa! 166 00:10:03,910 --> 00:10:05,370 And I'm going to grab one of your toys. 167 00:10:05,610 --> 00:10:06,610 Can I grab one of your toys? 168 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:10,130 Like that. 169 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,940 See? There's a toy. 170 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:13,460 There's a hand. 171 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:14,500 Whoa! 172 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:20,360 I'm spending time with the cat, who is a thousand percent dangerous and 173 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,360 unpredictable. 174 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:24,340 I don't have a way forward right now. 175 00:10:25,060 --> 00:10:30,980 Mentally, physically, plan -wise, nothing. We are at an impasse, and I 176 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:31,980 know what to do from here. 177 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,320 We gotta bring a baby in here, dude. 178 00:10:34,620 --> 00:10:35,640 Did you get it? 179 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:38,260 Okay, I'm done. 180 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,440 I'm done, okay? 181 00:10:42,060 --> 00:10:43,060 I know. 182 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:48,460 I know. I just came to a place that I haven't come to ever, which is self 183 00:10:48,460 --> 00:10:52,640 -preservation. I don't want to lose an eye. I don't want to get cut in the 184 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,500 I'm experiencing fear. 185 00:10:54,940 --> 00:11:00,640 And cats can read that energy. I'm just scared to the point where I can't 186 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,640 continue. 187 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:06,560 Have I been scared before? 188 00:11:07,420 --> 00:11:08,460 Once or twice? 189 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Have I not known what to say once or twice? 190 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,180 Have I dealt with a very pregnant woman and a cat once or twice, but never all 191 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:21,800 at the same time? This is that perfect storm, and I was not prepared for it. 192 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:31,980 We may be looking at a situation that is unwinnable in terms of this cat staying 193 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:33,760 in this home with a newborn. 194 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,300 Every moment of this is paining me. I'm getting a little overwhelmed. 195 00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:42,740 Just a bad day. 196 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:47,780 I feel just sort of paralyzed right now, and I've got to go back in there. I 197 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:54,380 can't bear the thought of separating this cat from this family when there 198 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:56,700 really isn't another home for this cat. 199 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:05,740 If the guardians saw me like this right now, they'd lose all hope. I've just got 200 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:06,740 to suck it up. 201 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:09,860 It is very troubling, and it's not looking good. 202 00:12:10,490 --> 00:12:11,490 But it's not hopeless. 203 00:12:14,490 --> 00:12:15,650 Come on in. Okay. 204 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:20,070 The one thing that my clients can always bank on is I'm not going to lie to you. 205 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:21,670 I'm not going to sugarcoat things. 206 00:12:22,070 --> 00:12:27,890 I owe it to you to be as completely honest as I can be. And right now we're 207 00:12:27,890 --> 00:12:28,890 bad situation. 208 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:29,970 Yeah. 209 00:12:30,210 --> 00:12:35,830 Diagnosis -wise, I mean, we've got a dangerous cat and we've got a deadline 210 00:12:35,830 --> 00:12:36,830 here. 211 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:38,710 The threat is very real. 212 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:44,590 My firm belief is that this is not a choice that she's making. 213 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:47,190 It is mental illness. 214 00:12:48,210 --> 00:12:53,350 Clearly, she cannot differentiate between friend or foe, fight or flight. 215 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:57,430 body is all over the place. The fact that she starts to walk strange, her 216 00:12:57,430 --> 00:13:00,670 dilating, her whiskers going back, her ears flattening, the whole nine yards. 217 00:13:00,890 --> 00:13:03,390 She'll go in, she'll come out. Did she do that to your hand? 218 00:13:04,130 --> 00:13:06,150 Oh, God, did she do that to you? 219 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:08,110 I'm sorry. 220 00:13:08,510 --> 00:13:10,030 You didn't do it, the cat did. 221 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:13,930 And I do want you guys to make sure you're letting yourselves off the hook 222 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:16,110 Okay. This has not to do with you. 223 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:20,330 That's actually quite a relief, considering what we've been through in 224 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:23,970 four years. Now that leads us to what our first bit of homework is. 225 00:13:24,390 --> 00:13:25,670 She needs to be on medication. 226 00:13:26,410 --> 00:13:29,090 We have, like, questioned that. We have questioned it. 227 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,630 Yeah. It's just, it was always... 228 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,220 a matter of like us thinking we were crazy in a sense to like, you know, 229 00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:39,080 that it might be a medicational issue. Or are we just trying to find the easy 230 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,800 way out? Right. And I totally get it. At this point, medication is Posey's only 231 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,800 hope. 232 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:52,260 Posey is suffering mentally just terribly. I mean, her body and her mind 233 00:13:52,260 --> 00:13:55,140 giving her information that is completely flawed. 234 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:59,140 And she's ill. She's just not well. And she needs help. 235 00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:05,200 Number two, what I would call 9 -1 -1 catification, right? We've got to catify 236 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,460 this space in a way that we're not setting her up for disaster and to make 237 00:14:09,460 --> 00:14:10,960 feel a little more secure in her space. 238 00:14:11,180 --> 00:14:12,520 So let's take a look at this. 239 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:19,940 It is in the prime traffic lane in this entire house. If you want to 240 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:23,700 go to the kitchen, the bathroom, or your bedroom, you've got to... 241 00:14:23,930 --> 00:14:28,250 Go by, like, the feline guillotine in order to get there, right? Yeah. 242 00:14:28,690 --> 00:14:30,250 So this has to move. 243 00:14:30,490 --> 00:14:35,210 I want her to occupy the perimeters and feel more comfortable in the perimeters 244 00:14:35,210 --> 00:14:39,050 so that she doesn't feel like she has to be a part of everything at all times. I 245 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:42,590 am going to be absolutely transparent with you guys, okay? 246 00:14:43,130 --> 00:14:47,430 I don't know how this is going to play out. I am trying to keep my eye on 247 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:51,250 immediate safety, midterm safety, long -term safety. 248 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,360 The whole nursery bedroom thing. 249 00:14:55,580 --> 00:15:01,460 Yeah. How she responds to the meds dictates what our next line is, right? 250 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Yeah. Let's put it this way. 251 00:15:03,620 --> 00:15:10,020 If the problem were left unchecked and they just had their baby, it's a 252 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:13,960 guarantee that something really bad would happen. Really bad. 253 00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:21,280 As of now, maybe we'll have a better chance of avoiding something 254 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,100 Our first goal. 255 00:15:23,550 --> 00:15:28,170 is get her to the vet, get her on meds, and then all the rest of the stuff is 256 00:15:28,170 --> 00:15:31,990 going to start falling into place one way or the other. I feel really sorry 257 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:35,650 Posey that she's been suffering for all this time. 258 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:40,170 That's why now we're so anxious to get her the help that she needs. 259 00:15:40,850 --> 00:15:41,850 Yeah, I know. 260 00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:43,230 Oh! 261 00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:47,930 I will be back in a few weeks. In the meantime, anything happens, 262 00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:49,610 scary, dangerous. 263 00:15:50,190 --> 00:15:52,390 You call me, okay? Okay. Thank you. Great to meet you. 264 00:15:52,970 --> 00:15:56,030 Talk to you guys very soon, okay? All right. Thank you. 265 00:15:56,570 --> 00:15:57,570 Bye -bye. 266 00:15:57,850 --> 00:15:58,890 Say bye, Posey. 267 00:16:02,270 --> 00:16:03,249 Look at this. 268 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:08,410 It's a marmalade. It is the marmalade. I am meeting Cole at marmalade. How many 269 00:16:08,410 --> 00:16:09,730 people have watched that video? 270 00:16:09,950 --> 00:16:11,410 11, 12 million people now. 271 00:16:11,690 --> 00:16:14,910 A little starstruck. I'm here, man. Let's do something. Let's make the 272 00:16:14,950 --> 00:16:16,110 Let's do this. I'm famous. 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,260 I'm in Cary, Illinois to meet up with Chris and his cats, the famous Cole and 274 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:40,580 Marmalade. These guys have been on social media for about six years, making 275 00:16:40,580 --> 00:16:44,700 awareness videos, educational videos, and fun videos. 276 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,720 I cannot wait to meet these guys. A little starstruck. 277 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,320 Chris Poole, how you doing, man? 278 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,560 I'm Chris Poole. I'm owned by Cole and Marmalade, the leprechaun. 279 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Cole and Marmalade are pretty famous online. We've got over 300 videos. 280 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:01,500 and over 200 million views. 281 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,900 And we've also got millions of followers just online in general. 282 00:17:05,180 --> 00:17:07,220 Look at this. It's a marmalade. 283 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:11,780 He's like, I know I'm famous and all, but what's with the cat guy? Please 284 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:12,780 try to fix me. 285 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,060 I mean, I've met a lot of animals in my life, but when I saw coal and marmalade, 286 00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:22,839 I'm like, it is the marmalade. I am meeting coal and marmalade. Now, this is 287 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:24,920 what I flew across the country for. 288 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,480 The famous coal and marmalade. 289 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,940 So. How did you start making cat videos? 290 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:34,860 I used to work at a big cat sanctuary in Florida, so I was working with slightly 291 00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:36,720 larger cats like tigers and lions. 292 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,180 And that was my day job, making big cat videos to entertain people, educate 293 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:43,580 people about the problems big cats are facing. 294 00:17:43,940 --> 00:17:49,440 I adopted Cole, and a friend of ours told us that black cats are the most 295 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,500 euthanized in animal shelters and least adopted. 296 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,340 My inspiration for making videos is to show people how cool black cats are. 297 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Marmalade came along like a year later and things just went crazy. More and 298 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,660 people following us. We've got like 200 million views. 299 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,280 So marmalade is FIV positive? 300 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:09,580 Correct, yeah. 301 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:15,360 FIV or feline immunodeficiency virus was mistakenly called feline AIDS. It put a 302 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,320 cloud over these cats who, if they're treated well, can live a very normal 303 00:18:20,540 --> 00:18:25,150 It sounds really bad, like in animal shelters when you see... FIV positive on 304 00:18:25,150 --> 00:18:27,270 the labels, it just turns people off. 305 00:18:27,490 --> 00:18:31,610 They think the cats aren't going to live that long, so they can't mix with other 306 00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:35,650 cats, but that's not the case. Like cola marmalade, use the same water bowl, the 307 00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:39,730 same litter box, eat the same food. If you give them good diet with 308 00:18:40,090 --> 00:18:44,950 they can live just as long as any other cat. More cats have died because of the 309 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:47,930 label FIV than have actually died of FIV. Yeah. 310 00:18:48,250 --> 00:18:50,750 FIV positive cats are positively adoptable. 311 00:18:51,470 --> 00:18:53,110 Marmalade really is the first. 312 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,580 FIV positive cad who has become a celebrity and that's an amazing thing 313 00:18:58,580 --> 00:19:03,680 cause of debunking myths around FIV positive cat Do you know which video has 314 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,180 gotten the most views of all time? That's what cats do at night So I 315 00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:11,480 set up my night vision camera and see what action I could capture 316 00:19:22,270 --> 00:19:23,430 People have watched that video. 317 00:19:23,710 --> 00:19:28,090 It's like 11, 12 million people now, and they check out the video, and they just 318 00:19:28,090 --> 00:19:30,970 feel better. It's just kitty therapy, stress relief. 319 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:35,250 Colm and I want to make a positive difference in the world, and that's what 320 00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:36,250 we're doing with our videos. 321 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:40,250 Seeing people's comments and messages saying how much they enjoy the videos 322 00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:44,170 they're a bright spot in their day, that's definitely the feel -good factor 323 00:19:44,170 --> 00:19:45,750 why we keep doing it. 324 00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:52,830 Colm wants absolutely nothing to do with it. It's just like... He's so, it is so 325 00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:57,470 beneath him. I mean, seriously, Cole just has a little bit of an attitude, 326 00:19:57,470 --> 00:20:00,050 know, a little bit of, oh, I'm too good for the cat guy. 327 00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:02,630 Cole's more intelligent. He's always trying to work you out. 328 00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:06,070 Let's just be over here. We'll let Marmalade make a fool out of himself. 329 00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:07,990 just going to be over here being a little more proper. 330 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:09,210 Come on, Cole. 331 00:20:09,370 --> 00:20:10,189 Cole, Cole. 332 00:20:10,190 --> 00:20:11,190 You ready? 333 00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:17,770 It's a battle of the cat celebrities. Cole against the cat daddy. Will he come 334 00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:19,670 out? Yeah, he'll come out. 335 00:20:21,210 --> 00:20:22,189 Oh, my God. 336 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:23,310 Oh, what do you want? 337 00:20:23,910 --> 00:20:27,490 What do you want? Kitty bribes. That's the way I get the shots I need in 338 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,450 He's, like, juggling them out of his mouth. 339 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:33,390 Cole can run, but he can't hide. Or he can hide, but he can't hide. 340 00:20:34,210 --> 00:20:35,690 What are you working on right now? 341 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:39,850 I'm working on a video to promote spaying and neutering. 342 00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:42,530 I'm here, man. Let's do something. Let's make a video. 343 00:20:42,810 --> 00:20:44,990 We're talking about the benefits of spaying and neutering. 344 00:20:45,390 --> 00:20:50,410 Did you know that 11 million cats can come out of this body? It's just mind 345 00:20:50,410 --> 00:20:54,710 -boggling. Creating a video of Jackson is kind of a surreal experience. 346 00:20:54,910 --> 00:21:00,330 To have him here talking about cats in a Cole and Marmalade video is just crazy 347 00:21:00,330 --> 00:21:02,030 cool. Let's go film some stuff. 348 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:04,290 Hey, Jackson, how's it going? 349 00:21:04,570 --> 00:21:06,110 Hey, Chris, it's going well, man. 350 00:21:06,430 --> 00:21:07,950 I've got an idea for a video. 351 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:10,530 That is what I kind of figured. What are you doing? 352 00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:12,390 I want to promote Thay and Neuter. 353 00:21:12,690 --> 00:21:13,690 You're breaking up a bit. 354 00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:15,969 Can you hear me still? 355 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:18,150 You're freezing, man. Move your phone around. 356 00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:23,790 Let me move around a little bit. Let me move. Let me move. 357 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:26,750 And perfect. 358 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:29,430 That's much better. Much better. 359 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:33,870 It's a lot of fun working with Jackson. We're joking around. 360 00:21:34,170 --> 00:21:36,570 I'm sure there's going to be a lot of bloopers and outtakes. 361 00:21:36,850 --> 00:21:39,090 We've covered population control reasons. 362 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:43,510 We've covered just the health and happiness of your cats. What else is 363 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:44,510 left to say? 364 00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:48,420 Clearly nothing. I thought you were just talking. 365 00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:51,040 And cut. 366 00:21:51,860 --> 00:21:55,760 At the end of the day, the finished result should be really cool and will 367 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,060 hopefully help a lot of cats. 368 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,840 I think it's going to be a lot of fun once it gets done. But make sure you 369 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,840 my good side, all right? 370 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,080 I'll do my best. 371 00:22:03,260 --> 00:22:04,800 It was great. Thank you so much. 372 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,220 Take care of yourself. 373 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,880 I'm famous. 374 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:13,140 I was just in a coal and marmalade video. It doesn't get any better than 375 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,260 right? I mean, these guys have been doing it for so long. Hundreds of videos 376 00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:21,440 later, they're showing it's not about celebrity. It's about education, 377 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,520 and at the end of the day, having fun. 378 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,560 I'm here for my second visit with Shannon and Dino and their cat Posey. 379 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,640 And there is a ticking clock here. There's a baby that's due any day. And 380 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,000 got a cat who, unless she responded to the medication, I'm afraid that her 381 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,040 future doesn't look good. Come on in. 382 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,180 I'm surprised you wanted to come back. 383 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,420 How are you feeling? The first week was rough. 384 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,180 But we do think that she's actually calmed down a bit. You know, it's slow 385 00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:04,740 going, but there's a noticeable difference. 386 00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:09,490 Listening to the update from Dino and Shannon, I'm feeling very cautiously 387 00:23:09,490 --> 00:23:13,350 optimistic because last time I was here, I was scared. I feel just sort of 388 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:15,530 paralyzed right now, and I've got to go back in there. 389 00:23:16,330 --> 00:23:19,650 They want to see the best out of their cat. They don't want to have to face 390 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:24,150 choices here. So I can't really trust the words that I'm hearing. I'm going to 391 00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:25,150 have to see them. 392 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:26,870 Let's take a look at your video, Homer. 393 00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:29,550 Today, we're going to go see the vet. 394 00:23:30,550 --> 00:23:31,810 He's a little freaked out. 395 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:33,750 We're letting... 396 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:35,680 You know, do the daddy work. 397 00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:38,420 All right, we just got back from the vet. 398 00:23:39,020 --> 00:23:42,620 She's going on. The medicine that's supposed to get her calm. 399 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,220 It's been a long week. 400 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,800 She's basically been on a hunger strike because she doesn't like the treats that 401 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,300 have the medicine in them. We're working on getting the liquid form of her 402 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,540 medicine. But she's been very calm. 403 00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:57,360 No turning today, which is good. No attack. 404 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,900 Okay. Generally, this medication takes four to six weeks where it's working 405 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:05,700 optimally. There are many different types of medications this cat could be 406 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:10,120 Now, if after a handful of days they're seeing results, she's on the right one. 407 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,900 That's a big deal. 408 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,700 I'll remove the cat tree out of the primary lane. And hopefully allow people 409 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:17,980 look out the window. 410 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:22,140 This is like a beautiful moment of catification. 411 00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:27,620 So you take this from over there, you put it in a socially significant area. 412 00:24:28,030 --> 00:24:30,770 which is the window out of the lane of traffic. 413 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:35,470 And what do we have here? We have an A+. Yay. 414 00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:42,570 Theoretically, if you put it in here, it's good. 415 00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:46,010 Woo! Cat TV! 416 00:24:46,790 --> 00:24:47,790 Love that. 417 00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:50,450 Buffy, what do you think of your cat TV? 418 00:24:51,650 --> 00:24:54,210 Oh, we like this cat TV. Yeah, I love that one. 419 00:24:55,150 --> 00:24:56,150 Yeah. 420 00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:00,690 We officially have a problem. 421 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:05,910 The cat has found her way into the crib. 422 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:13,230 Posey jumping into the crib, yeah, I get it. It makes you nervous. But on the 423 00:25:13,230 --> 00:25:18,010 other hand, the last thing you want to do is close off the nursery slash 424 00:25:18,010 --> 00:25:22,070 slash the most important place in the house to Posey. That's one way of making 425 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:26,770 sure that the arrival of the baby is a negative thing for her. So, once again. 426 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,220 Rocking a hard place. Hey, listen, all the way around, I feel good stuff coming 427 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:34,220 out of that homework. 428 00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:39,320 Now the rubber hits the road. There's a lot to get done. She looks pissed to me. 429 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Shannon's looking behind me. Suddenly I realize it's Posey sitting on the end of 430 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,360 the couch. I'm afraid that this is going to end badly. 431 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Last time... She looks pissed to me. 432 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,140 Shannon's looking behind me. Suddenly I realize it's Posey. Sitting on the end 433 00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:04,919 of the couch. 434 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,020 I'm afraid that this is going to end badly. 435 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,440 Where she is right now is in a barely balanced place. 436 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,940 What I'm used to seeing last time was that... That swacking tail. That 437 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:23,300 was a lot more severe. Now let me see what happens. 438 00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:25,990 Just because I have this at my disposal. 439 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:30,910 The last time I worked with Posey, I made sure that the guardians left the 440 00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:34,730 because I didn't want them to see their cat in her work light. 441 00:26:35,270 --> 00:26:40,750 To be very clear, the medication just gets us to square one, to a place where 442 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:45,850 can do the work. I'm taking a calculated risk right now because Posey could turn 443 00:26:45,850 --> 00:26:49,670 on me just as quickly as she did last time I was here, and nobody wants that. 444 00:26:50,190 --> 00:26:53,770 Good girl. See how she's doing a little bit of hunting behavior right now? 445 00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:56,470 Yay, good girl. 446 00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:58,530 Yay, good girl. 447 00:26:59,130 --> 00:27:03,090 I'm going to pull the toy closer to me, right? Now my hand is getting closer and 448 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:07,070 closer. Is she looking at my hand right now? No. Not even a little bit. 449 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:10,270 I've never seen her play with anybody else before. 450 00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:11,850 Can I get you to follow me? 451 00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:15,390 And, you know, at the same time, you're seeing why it's so important to fully 452 00:27:15,390 --> 00:27:17,410 commit to this. You're absolutely right. 453 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,380 Good girl. Let me see what I can do here. 454 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,640 Good girl. 455 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,060 See that sound? 456 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,660 Yes, it's my good girl. Can you get up here? 457 00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:28,400 Can I get you up here? 458 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,000 Come on, baby doll. 459 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:31,480 Good girl! 460 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Yay! 461 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:38,720 I can't even describe the sense of relief that I'm feeling right now 462 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,280 this cat release her kitten and hunt this toy with absolute abandon. 463 00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:47,160 She's playing. I think you're getting nice and calm. 464 00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:53,040 I can't even believe that I'm standing here talking with my hands like I did 465 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,500 last time, and that led me to getting shredded. 466 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,420 Just calm down. 467 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,460 I'm in absolute shock right now. 468 00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:05,580 They're seeing the kitten come out of their cat for the first time since she 469 00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:09,940 a kitten. It's the most joyful experience for me that I could possibly 470 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,500 I can only imagine what it's like for Shannon and Dino. 471 00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:19,790 Now, all this said, we are far from home free here, and I don't want to set 472 00:28:19,790 --> 00:28:24,010 false expectations because up until this point, it was some catifying and 473 00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:27,810 getting that pill in her. The point of the medication is to get Posie to a 474 00:28:27,810 --> 00:28:32,610 where she is a predictable cat that I can work with. There is no magic pill. 475 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:36,970 There is no magic anything here. It's all about doing the work, but we've got 476 00:28:36,970 --> 00:28:37,729 get there first. 477 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:41,030 The first assignment here is desensitization 101. 478 00:28:41,639 --> 00:28:45,800 We want to start getting her used to the sounds, the sights, the smells of baby 479 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,860 before baby ever gets here. And, of course, the rituals that go along with 480 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:53,160 want you to get a recording of the sound of a baby. 481 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:56,760 Gurgling, crying, doing all those baby sounds. 482 00:28:56,980 --> 00:29:01,760 So then when you're doing things like playing, feeding, whatever, you've got 483 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,820 that going in the background. 484 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,420 Very low at first. 485 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,820 Desensitization means don't threaten. 486 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,740 But challenge slowly, slowly, slowly until you have it at baby volume. 487 00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:16,060 I want them to desensitize Posey because if Posey recognizes rituals around 488 00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:19,700 baby, then it won't be a threat to her when the baby comes. 489 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:24,860 So the second part of this is a continuation of catification. You guys 490 00:29:24,860 --> 00:29:25,860 amazing job in here. 491 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,380 And I want you to start catifying the bedroom slash nursery. 492 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,160 Okay. She can study the baby from afar without getting all up in her business, 493 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,000 right? I want them to build a new cat superhighway so that Posey can watch the 494 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,520 proceedings, see this weirdly moving, weirdly sounding thing, and know that 495 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,100 can do it from a distance. I wouldn't lead us down this road right now if I 496 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,580 didn't have a whole lot of optimism. 497 00:29:50,410 --> 00:29:54,970 So, your next homework assignment is knowing and doing what's best for Posey. 498 00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:59,490 Play is a big thing for her. Lead her to her cat TV station where the energy can 499 00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:03,970 be drained away, right? Posey can't control her own energy. With play, we're 500 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:06,670 going to drain all that unnecessary energy out. 501 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:12,750 The last time I worked with Posey, she attacked me pretty badly and left me in 502 00:30:12,750 --> 00:30:15,830 doubt as to whether I can actually make this work here. 503 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,180 I still think we've got a lot of work to do here, but at least there's hope, and 504 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:23,160 with hope we can get this done. I'll talk to you in a few weeks, okay? I'll 505 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,740 to keep her in until then. Yeah, do that. 506 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,860 It's definitely overwhelming right now, but we have to be 100 % committed to 507 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:37,180 this because our baby and her safety is at stake, and Posey's life is at stake 508 00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:38,180 too. 509 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:53,140 I'm here in Dallas, Texas to hear a most amazing story with veterinarian 510 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:57,640 Brittany Barton and her cat, whose name is now Skinny, but he started anything 511 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,640 but. 512 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,660 Hi, welcome. 513 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,060 Hey. I'm Dr. Brittany Barton. I'm the owner and lead veterinarian of Heal 514 00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:10,400 Veterinary Hospital. And my cat, Skinny, weighed 41 pounds. 515 00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:13,020 Was Skinny the biggest cat you've ever worked with? Yes. 516 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,360 41 pounds? 517 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,040 41 pounds! Hold on, let's just stop for a second. Yeah. 518 00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:22,180 He didn't walk that far. He could barely walk three feet without having to lay 519 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:25,080 down and rest. When he would stand up, his legs would shake. 520 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,620 Wow. This is a photo of him with my four -year -old son. 521 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,960 Oh. He dwarfed your son. 522 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:35,620 I mean, imagine the largest watermelon you've ever seen. Yes. 523 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:37,220 That was him. 524 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:41,980 As a veterinarian, I go into vet mode, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, he can't get 525 00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:46,900 sick because at that weight, any illness could pop him into. 526 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Liver problems. Right. There isn't one system in a cat's body that's not at 527 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,080 when they're that obese. 528 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,300 Their kidneys, their liver, their heart, their joints. 529 00:31:57,860 --> 00:32:00,500 Everything is at risk when they're that weight. 530 00:32:00,740 --> 00:32:05,660 And I was like, you know, this is a couple of years process to get him out 531 00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:08,280 the woods to be able to go to a family. 532 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,520 Right. And so that's when I decided to just adopt him. So how much weight? 533 00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:15,390 In total, has Skinny lost? 534 00:32:15,610 --> 00:32:17,310 He's lost 24 pounds. 535 00:32:17,910 --> 00:32:22,170 That is insane and remarkable. He lost two and a half cats. 536 00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:26,250 Exactly. That's how I thought about it. I was like, that's two cats that were 537 00:32:26,250 --> 00:32:27,250 inside this cat. 538 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:29,430 There's our boy. 539 00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:31,470 Wow. Amazing. 540 00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:37,170 Amazing. Is he really going to jump up? Yeah. He can jump all the way up to the 541 00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:38,170 counters. 542 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:40,590 Initially, the weight came off pretty easy. 543 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:46,200 I put him on a higher protein, lower carbohydrate, good, high -quality 544 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,780 diet. But we hit 35 pounds, and it just stopped. 545 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360 And so we had to think outside the box. 546 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,760 He loved to lay on his back. So if we would touch his tummy, he would sit up. 547 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,040 And we'd touch his tummy, and he would sit up. And so we would literally sit 548 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,540 there and do that every time he presented the opportunity. And it was so 549 00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:07,100 fun because he absolutely enjoyed it. 550 00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:12,770 And so that allowed us to bridge into a lot of these exercises that eventually 551 00:33:12,770 --> 00:33:14,530 became his whole daily routine. 552 00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:20,610 It's remarkable to see a cat so at home on something like a treadmill. We were 553 00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:24,090 able to be successful with this because he was so food motivated. 554 00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:28,190 So the thing that almost killed him is the thing that actually helped save him. 555 00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:29,670 Exactly. That's crazy. Exactly. 556 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,760 To see Skinny so confidently work that treadmill, he's not stressed out. 557 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:40,480 He's just following his nose, getting those treats, and getting great 558 00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,680 What else you got for me? We have the underwater treadmill. 559 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,880 You want to see it? 560 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,320 Come on. 561 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Cats don't like water, but Skinny doesn't mind. Hey, this is the first 562 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,980 everything, right? I've never seen it before. 563 00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:59,580 So this is it. This is our big underwater treadmill. This is one of our 564 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:00,620 cornerstones of rehab. 565 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,120 Come on in, Papa. 566 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,800 All right, big guy. You ready, Freddy? 567 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,240 Let's do this. 568 00:34:08,179 --> 00:34:12,159 The water slowly comes up from underneath them so that they don't feel 569 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:13,159 they're getting a bath. 570 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,960 All of a sudden, it's just up underneath their feet. This machine allows us to 571 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,159 do a lot. You can bring the water up higher to give them the buoyancy to take 572 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,679 the stress off their joints, or you can drop the water a little bit lower to 573 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,199 engage that high -stepping action. 574 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,139 It's incredible. The first time you put him in here, what was the process of 575 00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:33,020 getting him to the point where he accepted the water? 576 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,000 We did it very slow, a little bit at a time, and as long as he was accepting 577 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,590 it... We kind of kept pushing a little more. Right. He's up to his shoulders in 578 00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:47,889 water, and you can tell his gait is so easy. It's amazing exercise with no 579 00:34:47,889 --> 00:34:49,650 impact on his joints whatsoever. 580 00:34:50,429 --> 00:34:54,350 Skinny is pretty much an inspiration all over the place. I've had people email 581 00:34:54,350 --> 00:34:59,730 us. And they're like, darn it, if a cat can do it, I can do it. That's amazing. 582 00:34:59,950 --> 00:35:02,810 And he has had a very robust social media presence. 583 00:35:03,010 --> 00:35:08,830 His story has resonated with a lot of people, both personally and for their 584 00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:12,730 pets. Over 60 % of cats in America are either overweight or obese. 585 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:14,270 So yeah, it's a big deal. 586 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:17,830 60%. Yeah. The conversation needs to start when they're kittens. 587 00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:21,970 How do you decide how much is too much? How do you decide what food's 588 00:35:21,970 --> 00:35:23,230 appropriate for this pet? 589 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:26,850 Right. Skinny's weight loss story helped start that conversation. 590 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:32,510 Amazing. Stories like this really pumped me up because Skinny and his social 591 00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:38,150 media presence have opened people's eyes to the epidemic of obesity, an animal 592 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:42,350 who can make such an incredible transformation, inspiring people all 593 00:35:42,350 --> 00:35:43,350 world. 594 00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:48,010 It will save lives. It's already saved lives. Thank you so much for coming. It 595 00:35:48,010 --> 00:35:50,470 was my pleasure. Take care of yourself. You too. Absolutely. 596 00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:52,830 I mean, you want to talk about a win -win situation. 597 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:57,710 You've got Dr. Barton who's got a loving companion and a testament to her hard 598 00:35:57,710 --> 00:36:02,590 work. The world at large learns about cat obesity and saves cats' lives and 599 00:36:02,590 --> 00:36:05,750 skinny wins by losing 24 pounds. 600 00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:09,250 She attacked me again. I was like, old cozy. 601 00:36:09,490 --> 00:36:11,230 Maybe the medicine's not working. 602 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,820 So I'm here for my third visit with Shannon, Dino, and Posey. Last time I 603 00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:31,200 here, we saw a lot of progress, but that's not the end of the road, just the 604 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,100 beginning. Hopefully these guys are one step closer to bringing home the baby. 605 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,320 Hi. Hello. 606 00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:40,340 How are you? Welcome, welcome. 607 00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:41,780 Hi. Oh, man. 608 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:43,900 So, guys. 609 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,600 How are things with our girl? She's doing pretty well. She was golden the 610 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,220 after you left. My family came over. They even brought a little dog, and she 611 00:36:55,220 --> 00:37:00,100 phenomenal. Posi never attacked anybody, no hissing, no growling. It was like 612 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:01,500 having a normal cat. 613 00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:06,900 Don't forget, this medication takes a while until it hits a proper level. But 614 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:13,240 the fact that she's responded in the way that she has in general is very good 615 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:19,000 news. It's great to hear Posey appears to be a normal cat, but until that 616 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,460 medication is in her system for at least a couple more weeks, the guardians need 617 00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:23,460 to remain cautious. 618 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,360 All right, guys. 619 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,920 Let's take a look at your homework. 620 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,880 This is our bedroom catification process, and the hope is that Posey will 621 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,660 able to watch the outside world from here. 622 00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:37,860 Oh, cool. 623 00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:43,110 All right, you just install the shelf in the bedroom, and Posey can check out 624 00:37:43,110 --> 00:37:45,550 her cat TV and lick herself. 625 00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:48,830 That's impressive. 626 00:37:49,610 --> 00:37:52,610 Now, baby sounds while she eats. 627 00:38:03,570 --> 00:38:04,570 That's no joke. 628 00:38:05,130 --> 00:38:09,350 The cat doesn't seem to care. He is straight up eating, man. Yeah, by the 629 00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:12,350 we were done, we literally ran out of devices that could go higher volume. 630 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:13,690 Beautiful, man. 631 00:38:15,310 --> 00:38:16,630 And I'm watching her now. 632 00:38:16,930 --> 00:38:17,930 Nothing. 633 00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:24,750 Okay. Onward. The desensitization worked. The fact that Posey can tolerate 634 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:28,550 sound of a screaming baby while remaining calm is huge. 635 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:30,650 We had a bit of a setback. 636 00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:34,290 I was just belting on my yoga ball and Posey. 637 00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:40,540 was getting aggressive, so I got up to go get her a toy to play with her. And 638 00:38:40,540 --> 00:38:42,820 she ran after me and attacked me. 639 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,260 And she... Her claws... Actually, I think those are from her teeth. 640 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,800 I don't know if we need that for justice or what, but... Just frustrated. 641 00:38:54,020 --> 00:38:55,920 Oh, and I'm due in 14... 642 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:06,260 Just frustrated. 643 00:39:06,860 --> 00:39:08,640 Oh, I'm 2 and 14. 644 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,080 Obviously you're getting emotional here. She attacked me again, and it was like 645 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,480 old posy. 646 00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:18,100 Maybe the medicine's, like, not working. 647 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:22,620 I totally understand. 648 00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:28,180 She gets on the medication, and you think... Everything's better. You have a 649 00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:28,999 different cat. 650 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,100 And that's not going to happen as quickly. And, of course, I get the 651 00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:36,100 disappointment. A yoga ball shouldn't cause that kind of reaction. 652 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,360 So, okay. 653 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,720 Good, Kurt. Yeah, I know. 654 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,180 We just successfully gave Posey her first dose of the liquid medication 655 00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:51,600 so that we don't have to deal with this whole medication and a treat, free 656 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,740 feeding all day business. 657 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,740 So we started that actually last week. 658 00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:58,010 Dino doesn't like doing the liquid medication. 659 00:39:58,350 --> 00:40:02,710 The thing with the liquid medication that worries me is every day, like, it's 660 00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:06,450 very violent act. Like, we're literally wrapping her up. I was watching that. I 661 00:40:06,450 --> 00:40:08,790 think that you guys can make it a lot easier on yourselves. 662 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:10,770 You don't have to wrap her up. 663 00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:17,290 While she's like this is the time to walk up, say, hi, baby, open her mouth, 664 00:40:17,310 --> 00:40:18,350 give her a medication, walk away. 665 00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:23,480 Posy will act like old Posy if she doesn't get her medicine. Giving her 666 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,980 medication is the only way to guarantee that she's getting the proper dosage. I 667 00:40:27,980 --> 00:40:29,020 can't stress that enough. 668 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,800 We have to essentially keep trying it. For a cat who's not predictably getting 669 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,340 her medication every single day, she's doing pretty damn good right now. Look 670 00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:39,078 her, man. 671 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,260 I mean, listen, you know the first day when I'd be sitting here and I was like, 672 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:44,720 oh, I feel your cat, right? 673 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,060 I don't feel anything right now. 674 00:40:47,420 --> 00:40:49,680 How are you feeling about bringing a baby into this house? 675 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,980 I'm feeling way better than I was five weeks ago about bringing a baby into 676 00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:54,980 house. Good. 677 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:58,860 I'm much more worried about bringing the baby home because I need to learn how 678 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:04,540 to be a father than I am worried how the baby is going to interact with the cat. 679 00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:09,540 You know what to do. Right. We have the tools. We just have to use them. 680 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,130 Exactly. I am so grateful that Jackson came and helped us because, honestly, I 681 00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:17,170 was just lost in despair. 682 00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:22,790 And we've made so much progress with Cozy that I'm actually feeling hopeful, 683 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:25,650 I didn't know that that was going to be possible. Let me know if you need 684 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:27,990 anything, okay? All right. Thanks, Jackson. Bye, guys. Bye. 685 00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:35,690 Hey, Jackson. 686 00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:39,690 I hope you're doing well. This is our little Cozy. 687 00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:45,710 Seven weeks old now, and Posey has actually been really great with her. 688 00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:47,730 never tried to attack her little sister. 689 00:41:47,970 --> 00:41:50,470 She's just very observant of her. 690 00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:53,050 Here Posey is checking on her baby sister. 691 00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:55,850 No hissing, no tail thwacking. 692 00:41:56,250 --> 00:41:59,470 This is the best case scenario we ever could have dreamed of. Posey has been 693 00:41:59,470 --> 00:42:00,550 incredibly well behaved. 694 00:42:00,790 --> 00:42:04,830 It has been a complete change, and we never thought it would turn out this 695 00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:07,130 Posey and Posey are happy little sisters. 696 00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:09,890 Thank you so much. Thank you. 59763

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