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Daisy likes to attack people.
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Dexter likes to attack Daisy.
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Little... That's what they are. Daisy,
she's no saint.
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She pees blood all over our stuff.
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And Dexter is just... We have a daughter
named Chloe.
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Chloe's gotten scratched a few times.
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It makes me want to kill both of them.
The idea of not having them here, that
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kills me.
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This is like the last straw for me.
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Give her a text us once or twice a day.
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It's not predictable. He has this odd
affection for this bridge. And usually
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can pet him here.
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All of a sudden he'll just turn like
that.
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It's causing us a lot of tension.
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Or he's always yelling at me and telling
me how to change my behaviors.
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He's got to be better or it's going to
be gone.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy. I'm a musician by
night and a cat behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end. I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans only have one.
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I'm on my way to go see Chase and Maya
about their cats Daisy and Dexter, who
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are beating each other up constantly.
Now, to make matters worse, they've got
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young daughter, Chloe, who's getting in
the mix. And believe me, I don't like
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that one little bit.
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So I'm going to go over there right now
and see if there's any way to keep this
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family together.
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My name's Chase. My name's Maya.
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And we've been married a little over
three years.
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We have a beautiful daughter named
Chloe, who is almost two. We have two
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Daisy and Dexter.
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Dexter likes to attack Daisy.
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Daisy likes to attack people.
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The insanity that these two create
inside of the house, it's my
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personal hell.
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Dexter is hunting Daisy, and Chase is
hunting Dexter.
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When Dexter attacks Daisy, she gets so
stressed.
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that she gets these inflammation
problems and then she pees blood all
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stuff, which I hide from him usually.
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My husband definitely does not know that
she peed on my Christmas present. He
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would probably skin her and wear her as
a hat.
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I don't know. I didn't grow up in a
household with animals at all.
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Like, I grew up on a farm, so we
definitely had arguments about the cat.
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I have called the cats little...
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He needs to have more patience, because
I always have more patience for them.
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Our daughter Chloe, she's gotten
scratched a few times, and she's fallen
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few times because they, like, run into
her. That's upsetting for me.
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It has definitely gotten to the point
where it makes me want to kill both of
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them.
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I'm done with them.
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I see my cats as part of my family, and
the idea of not having them here, that
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kills me.
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I think that if Jackson can't help us...
There's no thinking about that. Jackson
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can't help us. This is like the last
straw for me. The idea of them being in
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shelter, let alone being put down, it
kills me. I love them.
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Hey, how are you?
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Hey, it's Jason Jackson.
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Nice to meet you. Hey, how are you?
Good, how are you? I'm Maya. Hey, Maya.
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Nice to meet you. And who is this? This
is Chloe.
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Hi, Chloe.
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Yeah, hi.
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Go play with Alex, bye -bye. Go play
with your toys. How old is she?
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She's going to be two.
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She's adorable, man. Thank you. So,
guys, tell me, what's happening here?
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I'm sure we have cat mayhem. Yeah, a
little bit.
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Um, so we have two cats, Daisy and
Dexter. Um, Dexter chases Daisy and,
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tries to fight with her. And there's a
lot of screaming and swiping and, um,
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growling. Daisy goes to go use the
litter box. Dexter will hunt her and,
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just wait outside of it. And as soon as
she comes out, she just mauls Daisy.
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And then Daisy runs and pees on our
laundry.
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Oh. And she pees blood because she's so
stressed. She does what? She pees blood.
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Our vets checked her out.
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And what?
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He said that it's from stress. That's a
lot of stress.
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Yeah. How long has she been doing this?
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Almost a year.
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That freaks me out. I'm really
concerned. As soon as I hear that Daisy
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blood because of stress, I'm thinking
rehoming.
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Have you guys gotten beat up?
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I have. And then Chloe's gotten in the
middle a few times and had a few
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scratches on her leg because she, like,
ran through them. That must have put you
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guys through the roof a little bit.
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Yes. It's one thing to have two cats
fighting all the time, but when you have
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two -year -old child in the middle of
that, the stakes get really high. She's
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going to get hurt. She's going to get
hurt bad.
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What have you been doing in terms of
keeping some peace in the house?
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Because Daisy likes to pee on our stuff,
especially if it seems to hit his
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stuff, I always do the laundry so that
he doesn't see the stains. Oh, wow.
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I hide the stuff from Chase because he
gets pretty upset when the cats destroy
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his stuff. That's like bottom line, cats
are out the door.
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I can't.
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put up with this anymore.
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Dexter doesn't change. He's got to go,
and that's where I'm at.
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I always had a problem with people that
rehomed their animals or turned them
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back to shelters.
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Wow, a lot of information from Maya and
Chase about what's going on with Daisy
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and Dexter, and obviously I want to get
up and walk around the territory and see
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where the fights happen. So where do
they start?
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Usually, Chloe will be over here
playing, and the cats start fighting
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They've run into her a few times.
They've scratched her a few times. Like,
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that's why I've kind of gotten to my
wit's end, is because it's dangerous.
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I'm really concerned right off the bat,
because you've got this wide open space
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there, and that's where Chloe's toys
are, where she plays.
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She doesn't know the difference between
a cat and a toy, and the cats... Don't
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know the difference between her and the
other cats.
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That's a recipe for disaster.
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Let's take a look at this room for a
second.
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Chloe's going to wind up getting in
the... What's that? That would be Dexter
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Daisy. Okay, you guys hang out here. I'm
going to go check this out, okay? So
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I'm standing in the living room talking
to Chase and Maya, and suddenly I hear a
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fight, and immediately I want to see
what's going on.
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Come on, come on, come on.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Ow, ow, ow, ow.
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I saw Daisy getting attacked by Dexter
and then Daisy went running into the
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bathroom where she got cornered by
Dexter. But now the good news is, is
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soon as I stepped in the middle of the
two of them, Dexter retreated.
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Come here, buddy. Come here, man.
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It's okay, Dexter. Now I want to check
in with each cat. I know, I know.
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Okay,
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just calm down.
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Daisy's obviously still in a highly
activated state. I went to pet her.
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she's into action again. Now, Dexter, on
the other hand, he didn't care.
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It was as if it had never happened. And
that tells me, Dexter, he doesn't want
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to kill Daisy. It's play aggression from
a teenager.
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Maya and Chase have a lot of work ahead
of them if they want to see these two
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cats get along.
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Look at every space in this home that
represents ambush and dead end and make
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into a cat superhighway. Find things
like cat trees and shelving. Every place
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that's an ambush zone has to either be
blocked off or turned into a place on
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superhighway. No more dead ends. We need
to create a vertical world for Daisy
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where she can feel safe and confident in
her own home.
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We're going to work on adding another
litter box to the house, both litter
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out in the open so Daisy can't ever get
trapped.
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We've got to make sure she can get out
when she sees him coming. Remember, it's
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all about Daisy's stress level and
keeping it down. What I want to start
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about is, Chase, your investment in
Dexter.
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I mean, I'm just completely detached
from anything to do with him, really.
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That's one of the first things we're
going to have to turn around. That means
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the play with Dexter specifically in
order to wear him down to the point
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there's more payoff with you than there
is chasing Daisy.
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I'm capable of doing that.
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Here's the deal, though. When I come
back here next time, if Daisy is still
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peeing blood, we are going to reevaluate
whether Dexter should be in this home.
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And Daisy has to get checked out by a
vet.
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All I care about is what's good for her,
you know, ultimately what's good for
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Chloe, because she's not safe.
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That is a guess.
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All right, guys, I'm going to get
moving.
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The idea of not having Dexter, like,
that killed me. That breaks my heart.
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If Jackson Galaxy can't fix Dexter and
Daisy, Dexter is gone.
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It makes me really sad.
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So I'm here for my second visit with
Chase and Maya and their cats, Dexter
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Daisy. Now, the violence between these
two cats was so bad, you got one cat
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peeing blood and you got Maya covering
up the evidence because she doesn't want
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Chase to kick them both out. And their
cats are also endangering their
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Chloe. I had a chance to watch Chase and
Maya's video homework.
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They've used cat trees and shelves to
create a cat superhighway in the bedroom
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and living room. Wow.
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The new litter boxes with escape routes
are out, and when you decrease ambush
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zones, you increase your cat's
confidence.
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And best of all, Chase is playing with
Dexter and wearing him out so he won't
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tempted to use his energy stalking
Daisy. Today, I'm hoping for no more
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that Daisy is no longer peeing blood,
and most importantly, that Chloe is
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Fingers crossed.
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Tell me, guys, what's going on here?
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How are the cats?
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Daisy really enjoys being up high and
having more control over the situation.
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Even to the point where she's kind of
wiping back now.
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Guys, that's incredible.
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Daisy is fighting back. She's holding
her ground. She's swatting at Dexter
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he gets too close. The cat has found her
confidence.
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Hello, Miss Daisy.
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So is she using the litter box? Mm -hmm.
We haven't had any peeing on the
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clothes. Whoa!
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Stop! Stop!
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I felt a lot less stressed. I'm not
hiding laundry anymore. I'm not trying
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get rid of stains.
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I'm not. It's like off my shoulders.
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Now, here's the big question.
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Daisy, is she still peeing blood?
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She still has some blood in her urine.
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We've lowered her stress and there's
still blood.
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I feel like we're dealing with a medical
issue here that needs to be diagnosed
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by a vet.
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Where's Chloe?
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Chloe is at preschool.
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She just started preschool.
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Do you feel like Dexter is still a
threat to her?
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He can still be aggressive to the point
where we don't want her to get tangled
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up. Have there been fights?
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But there have been. There still have
been fights, yeah.
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Okay. Okay. I need to know that.
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If it doesn't get to a point where
they're, like, fixed 100%, no fighting,
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know, they got to go.
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Chase is still at that place where one
slip up and these cats are gone. Let's
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get up and take a look around. That's
bad for me because I got a really short
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rope to work with.
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Okay.
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Nice. Love it.
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Continuation of that superhighway. I got
to tell you, there's no ambushing right
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here. That's fantastic.
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Here's Daisy. What we're going to try to
do is try to lead her up to the
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promised land.
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What I want to do is test Daisy's
vertical confidence. I want to see if
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higher she gets, the more her cat mojo
comes out.
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Make a jump. Good girl.
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There we go.
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Now can you get up here, baby?
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Oh, bang!
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There we go. All the way to the top.
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Now, if you could grab Dexter, that
would be great.
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This is a nice contained area to try and
experiment in. The last time I was
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here, I saw Dexter viciously go after
Daisy. And this time, I'm just hoping to
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see the two of them in the same room
without bloodshed. And it's not just
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important that I see this. It's
important that Shay sees it, too,
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false move and he'll rehome them. We
have Daisy. I want to see what happens
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she gets a little lower in the world.
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Now, just wait. Here she comes.
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One more step.
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I don't like how Dexter's fixating on
her.
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Wait to see what happens.
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Watch this moment here.
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Now, what are you going to do?
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That says a thousand words right there.
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See, she's not even looking at him
anymore. And let me just interpret body
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language. She points at her ears at him
as if to say, you got something?
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He's like, no, actually I don't. She
just saunters down the highway, staring
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Dexter down. He moves out of her way.
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Her confidence in sending a message. She
doesn't feel like being Dexter's play
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toy right now.
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Now that she's catified this area, she
has such a better world.
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It was amazing seeing someone you love
accomplish something.
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I thought it was really cool.
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Right? It was so cool.
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Okay, cool. I'm not the only one. Look
at you. I'm stoked. I mean, watching
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like, face her fears and be able to
master that, it's just so awesome.
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On the surface, everything looks great,
but we're not 100 % there. I mean, Daisy
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still can't sit on the floor with
Dexter, and most importantly, Daisy is
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peeing blood.
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There's something very wrong here.
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Now the first thing I want to do is I
want to get this cat to the vet. They're
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going to work until they find what's
wrong with her.
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Something's wrong in this cat's body.
We've got to deal with that. Next thing
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we're going to do is have you guys
continue with the work you just saw me
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which is getting her working that
superhighway. We have to give Daisy as
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escape angles as we possibly can so she
can get out and get away from Dexter.
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I've got one more thing for you guys.
Hold on one sec.
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All right. Alrighty then.
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So what I've got here is all kinds of
self -activated toys.
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But once you get them going, they go by
themselves.
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Because Dexter's a young cat with
endless energy, I brought in some self
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-activated toys for them. Things that
they can put around the house just to
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Dexter something to direct that
attention on that's not Daisy.
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Call me with questions, okay? Thank you
so much. All right.
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To be honest, right now I'm almost
feeling kind of nervous, like my back is
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against the wall, because I feel like
we've exhausted every option. I mean, we
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have Jackson Galaxy in our house trying
to fix this problem. Like, we have done
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everything that we can think of.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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What year was cat litter invented?
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Was it A, 1936, B, 1947, or C, 1958?
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The answer is B, 1947.
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Before 1947, ashes and sand were used in
cat boxes.
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Edward Lowe suggested that a neighbor of
his start using clay instead, which was
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much more absorbent than sand and much
cleaner than acid.
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I'm here for my final visit with Chase
and Maya, their daughter Chloe, and
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two cats, Daisy and Dexter.
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Now, the first time I met these guys,
the violence between Daisy and Dexter
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off the charts. Chloe, their two -year
-old daughter, was getting caught in the
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middle. And Daisy was peeing blood and
urine all over the house, and Chase was
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ready to send both cats packing. So
today, I want to make sure that Daisy
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seen a vet and that the bloodshed has
finally ended. Hey, how are you? Good to
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see you. Good to see you. How have you
been?
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I've been good.
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Yeah? Well, the most important thing I
can ask you is, since the last time I
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here, any attacks, any ambushing?
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You know, there are no more attacks.
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There's no more aggression.
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He's not cornering her. He's not hunting
her. He's not predatory.
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Fantastic.
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Really, that's great news.
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It's so much better. When Dexter gets
excited now, we see that when that
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goes up, grab a toy, intervene.
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So you're able to redirect his play
aggression from his target onto a good
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target. And the huge change, too, with
that is Daisy's involvement from that
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time we distract Dexter.
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It's like she's jumping right in and
playing as well. Are you serious? Oh,
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The fact that there's no fighting, I
mean, it's huge.
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Whoa. Right off the bat, fantastic news.
I mean, there has been no aggression,
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no attack.
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They have reestablished their
relationship together, and it's because
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Maya and Chase have been doing.
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Cool. Thank you. Kind of crazy.
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Love it.
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Of course, I still want to look at your
video homework, so here we go. Oh, my
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God! Two happy kitties.
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Dexter and Daisy are sharing space on
top of a cat tree. That kind of thing
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you only dream about.
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Got to be nice to have him back with you
on this one, yeah? Absolutely. It's
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hard being a single pet parent.
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It is.
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It is, I know.
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Daisy at the vet.
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I know, you're okay, little...
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She's got stones in her bladder. Oh, my
God. I seriously can't believe what I'm
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seeing. Daisy's bladder is literally
filled with stones. Now, there are
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factors that could help cause this. I
mean, from dietary factors to genetic
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factors to the leftovers from a urinary
tract infection.
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It doesn't really matter. The bottom
line is that Daisy's blood in her urine
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not caused by stress. It was caused by
these stones.
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Oh my, she must have been in the worst
pain.
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So that means that we're looking at
surgery.
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We're trying right now, diet first, to
try to dissolve the stones.
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Yeah, with that many, I mean... Just
waiting for these stones to dissolve
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take a long time.
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Now, I realize that surgery's expensive,
but with all the days he's been
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through, one more day of this kind of
pain is too much. In my mind, it was
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this diet better work, because spending
$2 ,000 is like, I don't know how I can
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justify doing that.
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I do still want to get up, walk around,
but most of all, I just want to hang out
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with these cats, man. So let's just
start in here. Come on. I got to see
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two cats in the same space, sharing it,
playing.
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No. sign an attack fine i can leave this
house happy we have success so uh
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there's dexter there's daisy let's get
some boys out get them over here man oh
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what is that look at daisy daisy's just
taking the space dexter's hanging back a
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little bit he is interested only in that
toy and chase you are playing with
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dexter which i could not have expected
the first day i got here Now, Daisy,
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let's break it down for a second. She
jumps down into the middle of the floor.
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She takes the middle of the territory to
play, while Dexter hangs out on the
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side. Role reversal.
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Completely different. She is a changed
cat. She's more secure, more confident,
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and that's a happy cat.
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Who do we have here?
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You say hi.
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Hi, Chloe.
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How are you, baby?
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I want to play with the kitty.
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Yeah, we want to play with kitties.
Yeah. You want the toy?
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How are you feeling in terms of Chloe's
safety?
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The ability just to have them in the
same space playing together like we've
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doing speaks volumes to me. Chloe
interacts with them, and I'm not worried
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anymore.
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I'm not. Yay.
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Yeah. I don't think about getting rid of
him anymore.
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I don't call him the little b****
anymore.
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The birth of a cat guy.
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Yeah. We recruited another one.
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The fact that he was able to come in and
take someone who...
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didn't like animals very much, didn't
like the cats, and was wanting to get
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of them, and transforming into this,
into someone who actually kind of calls
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himself a cat guy, that's huge.
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We can't thank you enough.
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Daisy's life, ultimately, and Dexter's
home. So that's so good to hear. But
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here's the thing. You guys have put in
so much work. I'm going to help you out
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with this surgery, okay? And we're going
to find a way to make this happen. Oh,
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thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for everything. You're
welcome. You're welcome. You guys
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deserve it. Thank you. You deserve it.
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You guys deserve all the happiness with
these cats.
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All right, guys, on that note.
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I'm leaving, okay. Tell me what's going
on with Daisy. I want to hear. We will.
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Thank you.
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Bye -bye. Bye.
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Say bye, Chloe. Bye, Chloe.
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Bye, baby.
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Now, even though we know Daisy has
bladder stones, I know we can take care
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that quickly. I've got a vet friend
who's going to step in and help us out
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It's the least I could do.
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So after my last visit, Chase and Maya
sent me a video message of all their
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progress. Hi, Jackson.
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So we're here today at VIP that already
married Thursday, waiting for Daisy to
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go back for her surgery.
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Hi, I'm Pedro Cisneros, but married.
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Here's her little stitches.
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She's waking up well.
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It's such a relief to be able to walk
past the letterbox down and not see
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and not be afraid to look in there.
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So cool.
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Thank you so much, Jackson, for
everything, for restoring peace to our
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sanity for me and helping Deezy get back
to her old self. We could never thank
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you enough.
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Anytime, Maya, anytime.
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I love it when a case comes together. I
love it.
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Give her a text us once or twice a day.
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People are deathly afraid of our cat.
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He's got to be better or he's going to
be gone.
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Well,
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I'm
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here in Austin.
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I'm going to go see Corey and Sarah.
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Corey gave Sarah a giver for her
birthday.
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Considering that boy will draw blood at
any chance he gets.
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Man, he's one gift Corey would love to
give back.
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I'm Sarah.
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And I'm Corey.
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We've been married for a couple years,
but we've been together for 10 years.
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I love a cat that's aggressive.
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All of a sudden, he'll just turn like
that.
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And go crazy and start to bite.
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He bit my cheek pretty bad.
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Ow! Ow!
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He's a nightmare with guests and
visitors, and we'll lash out at them
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forcefully. And now people are deathly
afraid of our cat.
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This is not predictable.
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This is the spot where he'll not attack,
but where he's weak.
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He has this odd affection for this
bridge, and usually you can pet him
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have no idea what it is.
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Corey and I have very different
perspectives on how to handle his
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Corey is always yelling at me and
telling me how to change my behaviors.
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So what are you doing right now? You're
playing.
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He's telling you no.
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It's been a big problem. I mean, we had
a lot of fights. It's causing us a lot
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of tension.
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I have my theories about just giving
them space.
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I go in and I'm like, nuzzle, nuzzle,
you're so sweet, I love you. And then
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it's, there's bitten.
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We don't agree. We don't see the eye to
eye.
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I'm not the type of person that wants to
give a cat up.
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It would break my heart. I would rather
get rid of him, especially if he's
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continuing to be antagonistic towards
us.
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Hey. Hi.
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How are you, Jackson? Good. Nice to meet
you, Sarah. Good to meet you, Sarah.
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Hey, Jackson. Corey, hi. Corey, good to
meet you. Yeah, thanks for coming.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Well, tell me what's going on here.
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Just over two years old. He's been
biting since we got him.
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And he's aggressive and really bad.
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And like even when you try to walk away,
he's going to lunge.
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He's bad.
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He seems to be a lot more aggressive
when friends aren't around.
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He bounces and attacks or like jumps out
at our friends.
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It's one thing to get scratched. We've
seen that a million times. But once we
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get into bite territory, it's a whole
other level.
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80 % of all cat bites get infected, and
that's because their teeth can inject a
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bacteria called Pastorella. Then you
wind up in a hospital with antibiotics
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running through your system.
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I leave him alone when he starts to show
signs of being aggressive.
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Sarah's a little bit more persistent
with trying to get him to calm down by
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physically touching him or by petting
him or whatever.
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You guys are obviously coming from a
completely different place.
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So I learned really quickly that these
two are not on the same page when it
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comes to how they treat Giver.
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Neither approach has clearly worked.
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I would rather get rid of him, but we're
not in agreement about getting rid of
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the cat.
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Like it caused a lot of stress between
us.
454
00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:21,860
I don't want to lose him.
455
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,740
Okay. All right. What I want to do is
first to have you guys point out all the
456
00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:30,300
places in the territory that he tends to
go after people. Let's just get up.
457
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,600
Start walking around.
458
00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:37,040
Okay, so, guys, where are the problems
in the house?
459
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,200
He kind of camps out under here a lot
when we've got guests over, and that's
460
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,200
where he pops out.
461
00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:46,060
So as they're coming through the door,
you mean?
462
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,920
Giver is obviously a cat with violence
issues, but he's also a cat with
463
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,100
territorial issues because he shows
aggression to anybody who comes into his
464
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:58,240
home. This is the spot not where he'll
attack, but where he's sweet.
465
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,240
It's only sweet here?
466
00:26:00,460 --> 00:26:04,760
No. Like, you can pet him here. He's
been really interested in the fridge.
467
00:26:05,140 --> 00:26:07,840
He'll rub up against the table. He'll
rub against the door.
468
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,600
He'll try to get in it. Let me get this
right. Your wine cooler here, if he's
469
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,460
here, he's cool? Mm -hmm. That is a new
one on me.
470
00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:21,950
Now, I'm trying to figure out this whole
wine cooler thing, and it's not making
471
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:22,689
any sense.
472
00:26:22,690 --> 00:26:26,590
I mean, is it the pitch of the hum of
the thing? Is it the coolness of it?
473
00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:30,870
I don't know. Now, I could spend hours
trying to figure this one out, but the
474
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:32,530
first thing that I have to do is meet
Giver.
475
00:26:33,650 --> 00:26:34,650
Okay, buddy boy.
476
00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:38,030
Let's see when we get to know each
other.
477
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:39,230
What do you say?
478
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:47,140
Immediately, I could tell the giver saw
me as a threat. I mean, not only were
479
00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:50,980
his eyes dilated, they were literally
bulging out of his head. He was ready to
480
00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:55,180
explode. And you and I are going to have
a moment.
481
00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:57,260
Yes.
482
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,440
Be cool.
483
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,940
Ow! Okay, come here, buddy.
484
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,640
Ow!
485
00:27:05,260 --> 00:27:06,260
Ow, dude!
486
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,880
Ow!
487
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,980
Instantly, game on, lunging.
488
00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:15,090
I had to see how Giver would react as a
stranger.
489
00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:21,350
He's pushing my challenge line, and I
came in there to push his.
490
00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:33,110
When Giver bit me, that was him saying,
do you understand my language? Get away
491
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:35,430
from me. Oh, God, you got me good.
492
00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:40,610
Now my next job is to see if he can
recover. Can he trust me? Can he accept
493
00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:41,750
things from me as well?
494
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,340
Or am I dealing with a neurological
problem?
495
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,740
If I can just get Giver to play, then I
know that I can work with him.
496
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,240
What is that?
497
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:56,980
What is that?
498
00:27:58,340 --> 00:27:59,340
What is that?
499
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:07,500
Good boy.
500
00:28:11,470 --> 00:28:13,250
at how you switch gears. Good boy.
501
00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:19,070
Giver turned around, immediately
accepted me as a playmate when, before I
502
00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:20,590
dinner. That was fantastic.
503
00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:22,930
We can strike out neurological problems.
504
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:27,150
Giver's a territorially insecure cat,
and Cory and Sarah's different ways of
505
00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:29,710
handling him are just increasing those
insecurities.
506
00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:33,030
If these two keep this up, one of them's
going to wind up in the hospital from a
507
00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:34,030
nasty bite.
508
00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:37,510
I'm telling you, I got a lot of work to
do with the humans as well as Giver.
509
00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:40,710
Now, first thing, here.
510
00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:43,210
It's our gold star jar, and this is your
homework.
511
00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:47,850
What I'd like you to do is just write
cards out. With cards, you're going to
512
00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:48,850
have tasks.
513
00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:53,350
It could be, you know, give love the way
you do it, or it could be brushing.
514
00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:56,670
I want them to write down activities
they can do with Giver, and then each
515
00:28:56,670 --> 00:29:00,670
they're going to pick a card and engage
Giver as a couple. This exercise is key
516
00:29:00,670 --> 00:29:02,090
to getting everyone on the same page.
517
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:03,890
And this boy needs to play.
518
00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:07,770
He's not getting enough play. The play
has to happen every day. Then let's talk
519
00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:08,850
about this wine cooler.
520
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:10,730
Here's the thing.
521
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,470
I'm still not sure what it is that
attracts him so much to it.
522
00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:17,690
So what I want to do is recreate that,
bring it out into the center of the
523
00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:21,570
I want you to build like a cat jungle
gym. I still don't know what it is about
524
00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:25,930
that wine fridge that attracts Giver,
but I do know that I want Corey and
525
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:28,050
to recreate it in a socially significant
area.
526
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:30,570
Then I want you to bring people over
here, okay?
527
00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:34,810
But you don't have to say, don't touch
Giver. Just let him hang out with you,
528
00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:36,870
okay? You guys are going to get to work.
529
00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:38,610
And I will see you real soon, okay?
530
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:41,670
Sounds good. Great to meet you. Good to
meet you. Good to meet you, buddy. We'll
531
00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:45,130
talk to you soon, all right? If all
these things don't work, I think we're
532
00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:47,510
to have to have bigger decisions made
about him.
533
00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:50,190
He's got to be better or he's going to
be gone.
534
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,100
I'm back in Austin. I'm outside Sarah
and Cory's house for my second visit
535
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:03,240
them and their cat, Giver. Now, the
first time I was here, I was dealing
536
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,560
couple who were not on the same page
when it comes to how they treat Giver.
537
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,640
Giver's violence was off the charts. I
mean, he tore me up.
538
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:12,660
Now,
539
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,380
I watched the video homework, and I did
get to see Cory and Sarah playing with
540
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:19,420
Giver and trying to focus his energy on
an appropriate target.
541
00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:24,260
I also saw Giver on his jungle gym. Now,
what I wanted was for that to be a safe
542
00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:27,900
place, like the wine fridge, which was
the one place that he felt calm. And
543
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,820
enough, I was right. Giver loves it. The
one thing I didn't see was the gold
544
00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:35,840
star jar exercise, and that was key to
getting Corey and Sarah on the same
545
00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:40,060
Now, that concerns me because Corey made
it clear that if Giver doesn't shape
546
00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:41,060
up, he's out.
547
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,359
Hey, Sarah.
548
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,250
Hi. How are you? Good. Good to see you.
Good to see you, too. Hey, man. How you
549
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:51,030
doing, Corey? Good. How are you? I'm
great. Thank you so much.
550
00:30:51,670 --> 00:30:53,350
Tell me, what's been happening here?
551
00:30:54,490 --> 00:30:58,170
We've had a couple of visitors since
we've last been here.
552
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:03,610
And the first visitor was pretty much
aggressively stalked and attacked.
553
00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:10,390
And the second visitor, by the time we
had been able to do our homework
554
00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:11,390
assignments, was...
555
00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:16,050
A little bit different, a little bit
better, I think. Good.
556
00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:19,230
There were a couple times where he
jumped out and batted at her legs, but
557
00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:20,230
was no biting.
558
00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:21,410
All right, good, good.
559
00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:23,910
What did you guys do specifically that
got him to that point?
560
00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:28,390
We set up the jungle gym, and we've been
playing with him a lot.
561
00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:31,990
Did you get him to that point where he
was just like, I've had it, I'm done?
562
00:31:32,270 --> 00:31:36,490
Maybe once or twice we wore him out, but
for the most part he wanted to keep
563
00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:40,070
playing. What I want is literally
panting.
564
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:41,630
Like, I want him done.
565
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:46,000
Hmm. A really important component was
play.
566
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,980
And they said they've been playing with
him a lot, but they can't tire him out.
567
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,460
That's code, if you ask me, to we're not
playing with him enough.
568
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:57,400
I gave you guys the gold star jar last
time I was here. Try to get you guys on
569
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,520
the same page. Tell me about that.
570
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,180
So we have been using the gold star jar
zero.
571
00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:10,870
The idea was to put action oriented
tasks in the jar. You pull it out and
572
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:14,390
guys would have to do the same thing.
You basically wanted them on the same
573
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:15,390
communicative page.
574
00:32:15,550 --> 00:32:19,130
If people like this don't do their
homework, when I come all the way from L
575
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:23,650
to Austin and they just blow it up, they
decide that it's not important. It's an
576
00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:24,910
insult to me today.
577
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,660
We're going to walk around the space
again because we still have a sense. Is
578
00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:32,280
territorial? Is it play? Is it something
else completely?
579
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160
We also have two of our friends coming.
580
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:39,300
Fantastic. All right, so let's start
right over there. Come on.
581
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:43,240
First of all, lovely.
582
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,560
I love this thing so much. This is a
great replacement for the wine cooler,
583
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,920
guys. As we explore the vertical space,
I think we're going to find...
584
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:56,520
There's a knock at the door. These are
the friends that Giver had terrorized in
585
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,700
the past when they were pet sitting. I
couldn't wait to hear from them. I'm
586
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,540
Jackson. Hi, nice to meet you. Hi, I'm
Amy.
587
00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:05,560
These guys have had a bad experience
with this cat.
588
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,600
So first it was Kristen's turn. Take me
sort of step by step through what
589
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,920
happened. I got his food out of the
refrigerator.
590
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,200
That's when he lunged at me. At this
point I was kind of afraid. I hooked my
591
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880
booty up on the counter.
592
00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:21,830
I stimulated across.
593
00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:27,030
Are you kidding me? It's hard for me
because this whole experience that
594
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:29,130
is relaying to me is funny.
595
00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:34,650
But you start thinking about the insane
things that people do around their cats.
596
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:36,050
I went to the restroom.
597
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:40,450
He started coming at me. I picked up the
rug at the front door and held it in
598
00:33:40,450 --> 00:33:43,210
front of me as he's lunging at me. Got
my purse and I left.
599
00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:46,350
From these firsthand stories from both
Kristen and Amy.
600
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,180
This is Giver Territorially Aggressive.
I'm going to give you guys some
601
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:54,440
homework. You guys will come back over
here, interact with Giver, and you guys
602
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,800
will video it for me? Yes. Okay. I want
a trust accent, but going in to see
603
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,420
Giver makes my heart race. Like, it
makes me sweat.
604
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,120
Thanks for coming, guys. Thanks. I think
it's really important for Kristen and
605
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,139
Amy to go through the homework, not just
because it gives Giver a chance to
606
00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:13,480
change, but it gives their friends a
chance to heal from their traumatic
607
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,300
experiences. Now it was time to spend
some time with Giver. I'm hoping it goes
608
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:18,300
better this time.
609
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,800
Hi.
610
00:34:25,219 --> 00:34:26,219
How's it going, mister?
611
00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:28,780
The last time I was here, Giver beat me
up pretty good.
612
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,460
So today, I need to see more progress.
613
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,020
I got tuna, and I'm just going to sit
here with you.
614
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,400
Come on.
615
00:34:48,529 --> 00:34:52,510
Ow! Giver's swats are more like warnings
that he needs more time and space to
616
00:34:52,510 --> 00:34:56,449
warm up to me, so I'm going to hang back
and hope I see more progress, because
617
00:34:56,449 --> 00:34:57,610
otherwise we're in big trouble.
618
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:59,390
Hey, buddy, buddy.
619
00:34:59,850 --> 00:35:00,850
Hey.
620
00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:02,810
It's okay.
621
00:35:02,850 --> 00:35:03,850
Good boy.
622
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:07,950
Come here, please.
623
00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:10,470
Come here, please.
624
00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:17,140
That's a good boy.
625
00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:21,800
That's worth a thousand words right
there, isn't it?
626
00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:25,420
That's worth a thousand words, isn't it?
627
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:31,500
Giver just rubbed up against me. Are you
kidding me? I mean, just a few minutes
628
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:35,140
ago he was attacking me, and now he's
rubbing up against me. He's basically
629
00:35:35,140 --> 00:35:40,040
complimenting his scent with mine,
saying, I own you, in a very loving way.
630
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,380
I just cannot wait to tell Corey and
Sarah what just happened. Let me tell
631
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:44,380
what I...
632
00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:46,030
understand about his language right now.
633
00:35:46,570 --> 00:35:47,690
Territorially completely insecure.
634
00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:49,710
That we kind of get, right?
635
00:35:50,090 --> 00:35:52,470
But he's giving us the keys to his
language.
636
00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:55,930
When Giver seems nervous, you need to
leave him alone. But when he's acting
637
00:35:55,930 --> 00:35:59,970
violent, that's when you need to
redirect his aggression with play. But
638
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:02,090
things first, we need to get you both on
the same page.
639
00:36:02,350 --> 00:36:05,590
That brings us back to the gold star
jar. I'm going to give this to you
640
00:36:06,010 --> 00:36:08,410
It's all about understanding his
language.
641
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:11,970
Another piece of your homework, I wanted
your friends to come back in again.
642
00:36:12,350 --> 00:36:16,210
They will sit on the couch, a toy, a
treat, something will come out to make
643
00:36:16,210 --> 00:36:18,970
think that every time he goes in the
living room, good things happen.
644
00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:22,170
The other part of understanding his
language is play aggression.
645
00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:26,830
That's to tell you you're not playing
hard enough with him. When he's pooped,
646
00:36:26,830 --> 00:36:29,590
can promise you he's not going to come
after you that way.
647
00:36:29,830 --> 00:36:33,730
All right, guys, I'm off to L .A. Any
questions at all? You call me, right?
648
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:37,250
Sounds good. Great to see you again.
This is pretty much our last -ditch
649
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:40,430
to help out with givers, so if this
really doesn't work, then I think we'll
650
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:41,510
out of options at that point.
651
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,820
I would rehome him. I don't know what
else we would do.
652
00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:03,540
So I'm here in Austin for my final visit
with Corey and Sarah about their cat,
653
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,600
Giver.
654
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:09,780
This cat has a violent past, just
carving them up and their friend.
655
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,700
Corey said that if Giver doesn't shape
up, he's out. So hopefully these guys
656
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:19,080
on the same page about how to treat him.
657
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:24,840
Hey, Jackson. What's up, Corey? How you
doing, man? If they follow their
658
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,820
homework this time, I hope I'm going to
see a different cat, but you never know.
659
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,160
How have things been?
660
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:32,000
How's life with Giver?
661
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:37,220
Has he attacked you or your friends
since the last time I was here?
662
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:44,670
He has not been vicious.
663
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:47,470
Seriously,
664
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:52,170
that's a huge deal. Last night we had
two people over. He was actually
665
00:37:52,410 --> 00:37:54,190
He was kind of rubbing up on our legs.
666
00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:58,310
What? Yeah, he was as friendly as he's
ever been with our friends over. Wow.
667
00:37:59,230 --> 00:38:03,430
Gibber's not only not attacking, he's
actually rubbing up against people. He's
668
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:07,450
letting them know that they're friendly,
he owns them, he can keep moving on.
669
00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:09,330
He doesn't have to challenge anymore.
670
00:38:09,570 --> 00:38:15,610
We've been playing with Giver and
keeping him active and having re
671
00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:19,650
-territorialized the room and the space
as well as giving him a lot of different
672
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:23,370
areas that he can call his own. We're
still diverting his aggression when he
673
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,610
starts to show aggression towards us.
Good work.
674
00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:32,730
Jackson helped us learn Giver's language
and I'm very happy that... we got the
675
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:34,530
help that we ultimately needed.
676
00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:38,990
As always, I have your video document.
So let's watch to see what you guys have
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been doing.
678
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Hi!
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How are you?
680
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I saw that friend Kristen come over and
engage Giver with a toy to make him
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think that every time he goes in the
living room, good things happen.
682
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Oh, nice move.
683
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Nice move.
684
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Giver actually, like... Is she really
hand -feeding him? Uh -huh. Wow!
685
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Now she's learned Giver's language. And
for her, that's big.
686
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So proud of him.
687
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This is the jar that you gave us. We're
communicating better.
688
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Fantastic. And finally, I saw Corey and
Sarah using the gold star jar, working
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together to provide Giver with that
stable home life, which is key to his
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success. Corey, what do you think I
should do?
691
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Petting him or leave him alone?
692
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He's obviously nervous.
693
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Leave him alone. I'm going to leave him.
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Look at that.
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Got you speaking cat.
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Let's get up and walk around a little
bit. Come on. Okay.
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Immediately, when I get out into the
living room, I see Giver poking his head
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out from between the furniture. Now,
when I first got here, Giver was only
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friendly near the wine fridge, which was
off of the corner and away from other
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people. So, before I leave here today, I
need to see Giver feeling comfortable
701
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out in the middle of the room.
702
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Then I'll know he's a changed cat.
703
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I kind of want to get in here, so I'm
going to grab a toy out of here, and I'm
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just going to see what I can do for him.
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Oh, hi.
706
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Hi, babe. Oh, hi.
707
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Come here, my boy.
708
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What is that?
709
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What is that?
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Good boy.
711
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Look at what we got there.
712
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Let me just tell you something. The
first day I met him, do you know how
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this was?
714
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Yes.
715
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What a good boy you are.
716
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What is that?
717
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What is that? Oh, I know. We have all
kinds of fun stuff for you.
718
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How are you feeling?
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Feeling great. This is incredible.
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I love it. I am so happy right now. From
the living room, you can see Giver's
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ultimate exit route.
722
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Hey, buddy boy.
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Look at that.
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Giver has found a new, beautiful piece
of real estate. I love this, guys.
725
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got this wonderful world out here. We've
got a bed.
726
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That's a beautiful fountain.
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And it is increasing his sense of
ownership of this entire place and that
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place by giving him this space.
729
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I mean, it's gorgeous out here, man.
730
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This is a really nice area. And, I mean,
beautiful cat TV, right? We've got
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trees, squirrels, birds.
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The whole nine yards, man.
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It couldn't be better. And I think what
you guys did is fantastic, and clearly
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he loves it out here. So, yeah, I
honestly think that it couldn't be a
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space for him. It really couldn't be.
And I noticed watching him walk out
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even though he's looking like this, he's
looking around, his tail is totally
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still. He's absolutely focused. And
that's when you know the giver is okay.
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I mean, again, when we talk about
giver's language, If his tail's moving,
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not okay.
740
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He's still, he is confident, and life is
okay. So at least you know what you're
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looking for.
742
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Having Giver go out on the balcony keeps
his attention firmly on what's going on
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out there, squirrels, birds, whatever.
744
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His tail doesn't move. He's completely
focused. Now these guys see what Giver
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needs in order to be confident, and that
is a still body. So I love it out here.
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And obviously, I mean, when you talk
about the nature of catapying, It's a
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really human -friendly area. This is
beautiful out here.
748
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Fantastic. And I also love the fact that
he's got in -out. As long as this door
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is open, this is just a continuation of
that. Your territory just got that much
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bigger, and so does his.
751
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Okay, this is fantastic. I mean, how
fortunate you guys are to have this
752
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beautiful...
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addition to the territory it really it
makes him that much more calm so great
754
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the first day i meet giver the guy is
wedged behind the couch he's petrified
755
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me and today he's grounded comes out to
the middle of the room he's friendly
756
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he's secure it's a different cat all the
way around out in the open like this
757
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with people around this is incredibly
rare i don't think he's ever done this
758
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Bang! From the beginning, I was a little
bit skeptical about how Jackson was
759
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going to help, but in the end, we're
really happy with the progress he's made
760
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and really happy not to have to resort
to measures like getting rid of him or
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rehousing him. Well, guys, it's been
fantastic.
762
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You've done wonderful work, and I think
you're going to be great.
763
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Jackson would have told us that by the
end, Giver was going to come out and
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friendly and be around all our friends.
I probably wouldn't have believed it.
765
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All right. You guys take care.
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It's made us a happier little family.
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