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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:03,350 Daisy likes to attack people. 2 00:00:03,590 --> 00:00:04,810 Dexter likes to attack Daisy. 3 00:00:05,950 --> 00:00:09,310 Little... That's what they are. Daisy, she's no saint. 4 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:11,430 She pees blood all over our stuff. 5 00:00:11,670 --> 00:00:15,750 And Dexter is just... We have a daughter named Chloe. 6 00:00:16,170 --> 00:00:17,890 Chloe's gotten scratched a few times. 7 00:00:18,170 --> 00:00:21,610 It makes me want to kill both of them. The idea of not having them here, that 8 00:00:21,610 --> 00:00:22,409 kills me. 9 00:00:22,410 --> 00:00:24,170 This is like the last straw for me. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Give her a text us once or twice a day. 11 00:00:32,860 --> 00:00:37,520 It's not predictable. He has this odd affection for this bridge. And usually 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,520 can pet him here. 13 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:40,100 All of a sudden he'll just turn like that. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,600 It's causing us a lot of tension. 15 00:00:44,860 --> 00:00:48,660 Or he's always yelling at me and telling me how to change my behaviors. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,920 He's got to be better or it's going to be gone. 17 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:04,090 I'm Jackson Galaxy. I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 18 00:01:04,849 --> 00:01:07,370 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 19 00:01:11,110 --> 00:01:13,930 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 20 00:01:14,170 --> 00:01:18,770 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 21 00:01:18,810 --> 00:01:22,810 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 22 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:27,760 When relationships are at an end. I don't have many more options than to 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,600 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,320 her. I'm their last hope. 25 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:39,040 Are you all right? 26 00:01:39,260 --> 00:01:43,640 Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one. 27 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:06,020 I'm on my way to go see Chase and Maya about their cats Daisy and Dexter, who 28 00:02:06,020 --> 00:02:09,660 are beating each other up constantly. Now, to make matters worse, they've got 29 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:12,320 young daughter, Chloe, who's getting in the mix. And believe me, I don't like 30 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,319 that one little bit. 31 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,060 So I'm going to go over there right now and see if there's any way to keep this 32 00:02:16,060 --> 00:02:17,060 family together. 33 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:20,720 My name's Chase. My name's Maya. 34 00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:23,060 And we've been married a little over three years. 35 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,240 We have a beautiful daughter named Chloe, who is almost two. We have two 36 00:02:28,540 --> 00:02:30,040 Daisy and Dexter. 37 00:02:30,570 --> 00:02:31,830 Dexter likes to attack Daisy. 38 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:38,410 Daisy likes to attack people. 39 00:02:39,470 --> 00:02:46,410 The insanity that these two create inside of the house, it's my 40 00:02:46,410 --> 00:02:47,410 personal hell. 41 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:53,670 Dexter is hunting Daisy, and Chase is hunting Dexter. 42 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:57,550 When Dexter attacks Daisy, she gets so stressed. 43 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,460 that she gets these inflammation problems and then she pees blood all 44 00:03:02,460 --> 00:03:05,860 stuff, which I hide from him usually. 45 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:12,960 My husband definitely does not know that she peed on my Christmas present. He 46 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,980 would probably skin her and wear her as a hat. 47 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,140 I don't know. I didn't grow up in a household with animals at all. 48 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:24,660 Like, I grew up on a farm, so we definitely had arguments about the cat. 49 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:26,440 I have called the cats little... 50 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:30,580 He needs to have more patience, because I always have more patience for them. 51 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:36,300 Our daughter Chloe, she's gotten scratched a few times, and she's fallen 52 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,160 few times because they, like, run into her. That's upsetting for me. 53 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:42,780 It has definitely gotten to the point where it makes me want to kill both of 54 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:43,780 them. 55 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,080 I'm done with them. 56 00:03:45,260 --> 00:03:49,620 I see my cats as part of my family, and the idea of not having them here, that 57 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:50,418 kills me. 58 00:03:50,420 --> 00:03:55,530 I think that if Jackson can't help us... There's no thinking about that. Jackson 59 00:03:55,530 --> 00:04:00,990 can't help us. This is like the last straw for me. The idea of them being in 60 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:04,950 shelter, let alone being put down, it kills me. I love them. 61 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:16,839 Hey, how are you? 62 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,579 Hey, it's Jason Jackson. 63 00:04:18,940 --> 00:04:22,400 Nice to meet you. Hey, how are you? Good, how are you? I'm Maya. Hey, Maya. 64 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Nice to meet you. And who is this? This is Chloe. 65 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:26,100 Hi, Chloe. 66 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:27,300 Yeah, hi. 67 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:30,260 Go play with Alex, bye -bye. Go play with your toys. How old is she? 68 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,840 She's going to be two. 69 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,940 She's adorable, man. Thank you. So, guys, tell me, what's happening here? 70 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:40,760 I'm sure we have cat mayhem. Yeah, a little bit. 71 00:04:41,390 --> 00:04:46,910 Um, so we have two cats, Daisy and Dexter. Um, Dexter chases Daisy and, 72 00:04:46,910 --> 00:04:51,530 tries to fight with her. And there's a lot of screaming and swiping and, um, 73 00:04:51,530 --> 00:04:57,090 growling. Daisy goes to go use the litter box. Dexter will hunt her and, 74 00:04:57,110 --> 00:05:00,510 just wait outside of it. And as soon as she comes out, she just mauls Daisy. 75 00:05:01,010 --> 00:05:04,350 And then Daisy runs and pees on our laundry. 76 00:05:04,590 --> 00:05:08,010 Oh. And she pees blood because she's so stressed. She does what? She pees blood. 77 00:05:09,010 --> 00:05:10,290 Our vets checked her out. 78 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:11,799 And what? 79 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,140 He said that it's from stress. That's a lot of stress. 80 00:05:15,380 --> 00:05:17,940 Yeah. How long has she been doing this? 81 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:19,180 Almost a year. 82 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,740 That freaks me out. I'm really concerned. As soon as I hear that Daisy 83 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:26,760 blood because of stress, I'm thinking rehoming. 84 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:29,500 Have you guys gotten beat up? 85 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,080 I have. And then Chloe's gotten in the middle a few times and had a few 86 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,380 scratches on her leg because she, like, ran through them. That must have put you 87 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:38,560 guys through the roof a little bit. 88 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Yes. It's one thing to have two cats fighting all the time, but when you have 89 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,160 two -year -old child in the middle of that, the stakes get really high. She's 90 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,400 going to get hurt. She's going to get hurt bad. 91 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:52,300 What have you been doing in terms of keeping some peace in the house? 92 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Because Daisy likes to pee on our stuff, especially if it seems to hit his 93 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,280 stuff, I always do the laundry so that he doesn't see the stains. Oh, wow. 94 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,360 I hide the stuff from Chase because he gets pretty upset when the cats destroy 95 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,340 his stuff. That's like bottom line, cats are out the door. 96 00:06:07,820 --> 00:06:08,759 I can't. 97 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,760 put up with this anymore. 98 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:14,020 Dexter doesn't change. He's got to go, and that's where I'm at. 99 00:06:14,220 --> 00:06:18,080 I always had a problem with people that rehomed their animals or turned them 100 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,080 back to shelters. 101 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:25,500 Wow, a lot of information from Maya and Chase about what's going on with Daisy 102 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:29,380 and Dexter, and obviously I want to get up and walk around the territory and see 103 00:06:29,380 --> 00:06:31,160 where the fights happen. So where do they start? 104 00:06:32,660 --> 00:06:36,480 Usually, Chloe will be over here playing, and the cats start fighting 105 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,280 They've run into her a few times. They've scratched her a few times. Like, 106 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:43,560 that's why I've kind of gotten to my wit's end, is because it's dangerous. 107 00:06:43,780 --> 00:06:47,080 I'm really concerned right off the bat, because you've got this wide open space 108 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,560 there, and that's where Chloe's toys are, where she plays. 109 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:55,420 She doesn't know the difference between a cat and a toy, and the cats... Don't 110 00:06:55,420 --> 00:06:57,600 know the difference between her and the other cats. 111 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,140 That's a recipe for disaster. 112 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Let's take a look at this room for a second. 113 00:07:01,740 --> 00:07:05,080 Chloe's going to wind up getting in the... What's that? That would be Dexter 114 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Daisy. Okay, you guys hang out here. I'm going to go check this out, okay? So 115 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,280 I'm standing in the living room talking to Chase and Maya, and suddenly I hear a 116 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,520 fight, and immediately I want to see what's going on. 117 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Come on, come on, come on. 118 00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:16,960 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 119 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,360 Ow, ow, ow, ow. 120 00:07:20,810 --> 00:07:24,450 I saw Daisy getting attacked by Dexter and then Daisy went running into the 121 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:28,490 bathroom where she got cornered by Dexter. But now the good news is, is 122 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:31,690 soon as I stepped in the middle of the two of them, Dexter retreated. 123 00:07:32,050 --> 00:07:33,310 Come here, buddy. Come here, man. 124 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,640 It's okay, Dexter. Now I want to check in with each cat. I know, I know. 125 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:38,980 Okay, 126 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:40,540 just calm down. 127 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,860 Daisy's obviously still in a highly activated state. I went to pet her. 128 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:48,640 she's into action again. Now, Dexter, on the other hand, he didn't care. 129 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:52,720 It was as if it had never happened. And that tells me, Dexter, he doesn't want 130 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,400 to kill Daisy. It's play aggression from a teenager. 131 00:07:55,740 --> 00:07:59,820 Maya and Chase have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to see these two 132 00:07:59,820 --> 00:08:00,820 cats get along. 133 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,340 Look at every space in this home that represents ambush and dead end and make 134 00:08:05,340 --> 00:08:10,140 into a cat superhighway. Find things like cat trees and shelving. Every place 135 00:08:10,140 --> 00:08:15,080 that's an ambush zone has to either be blocked off or turned into a place on 136 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,000 superhighway. No more dead ends. We need to create a vertical world for Daisy 137 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,060 where she can feel safe and confident in her own home. 138 00:08:21,390 --> 00:08:25,190 We're going to work on adding another litter box to the house, both litter 139 00:08:25,190 --> 00:08:27,610 out in the open so Daisy can't ever get trapped. 140 00:08:27,850 --> 00:08:30,990 We've got to make sure she can get out when she sees him coming. Remember, it's 141 00:08:30,990 --> 00:08:34,470 all about Daisy's stress level and keeping it down. What I want to start 142 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:37,030 about is, Chase, your investment in Dexter. 143 00:08:38,049 --> 00:08:43,650 I mean, I'm just completely detached from anything to do with him, really. 144 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:47,160 That's one of the first things we're going to have to turn around. That means 145 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,940 the play with Dexter specifically in order to wear him down to the point 146 00:08:51,940 --> 00:08:56,120 there's more payoff with you than there is chasing Daisy. 147 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,680 I'm capable of doing that. 148 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,020 Here's the deal, though. When I come back here next time, if Daisy is still 149 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:08,020 peeing blood, we are going to reevaluate whether Dexter should be in this home. 150 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,720 And Daisy has to get checked out by a vet. 151 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,540 All I care about is what's good for her, you know, ultimately what's good for 152 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:16,040 Chloe, because she's not safe. 153 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:17,520 That is a guess. 154 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,320 All right, guys, I'm going to get moving. 155 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,460 The idea of not having Dexter, like, that killed me. That breaks my heart. 156 00:09:25,060 --> 00:09:30,180 If Jackson Galaxy can't fix Dexter and Daisy, Dexter is gone. 157 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,040 It makes me really sad. 158 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:49,320 So I'm here for my second visit with Chase and Maya and their cats, Dexter 159 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,900 Daisy. Now, the violence between these two cats was so bad, you got one cat 160 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:56,500 peeing blood and you got Maya covering up the evidence because she doesn't want 161 00:09:56,500 --> 00:10:00,600 Chase to kick them both out. And their cats are also endangering their 162 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,540 Chloe. I had a chance to watch Chase and Maya's video homework. 163 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:07,420 They've used cat trees and shelves to create a cat superhighway in the bedroom 164 00:10:07,420 --> 00:10:08,420 and living room. Wow. 165 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:13,020 The new litter boxes with escape routes are out, and when you decrease ambush 166 00:10:13,020 --> 00:10:15,260 zones, you increase your cat's confidence. 167 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,980 And best of all, Chase is playing with Dexter and wearing him out so he won't 168 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:23,840 tempted to use his energy stalking Daisy. Today, I'm hoping for no more 169 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,100 that Daisy is no longer peeing blood, and most importantly, that Chloe is 170 00:10:28,340 --> 00:10:29,340 Fingers crossed. 171 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,260 Tell me, guys, what's going on here? 172 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,260 How are the cats? 173 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:41,060 Daisy really enjoys being up high and having more control over the situation. 174 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:44,920 Even to the point where she's kind of wiping back now. 175 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Guys, that's incredible. 176 00:10:46,340 --> 00:10:51,020 Daisy is fighting back. She's holding her ground. She's swatting at Dexter 177 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:53,500 he gets too close. The cat has found her confidence. 178 00:10:53,780 --> 00:10:54,960 Hello, Miss Daisy. 179 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,040 So is she using the litter box? Mm -hmm. We haven't had any peeing on the 180 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,879 clothes. Whoa! 181 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Stop! Stop! 182 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:05,240 I felt a lot less stressed. I'm not hiding laundry anymore. I'm not trying 183 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,179 get rid of stains. 184 00:11:06,180 --> 00:11:07,880 I'm not. It's like off my shoulders. 185 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Now, here's the big question. 186 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:11,960 Daisy, is she still peeing blood? 187 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,780 She still has some blood in her urine. 188 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,160 We've lowered her stress and there's still blood. 189 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:23,680 I feel like we're dealing with a medical issue here that needs to be diagnosed 190 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:24,680 by a vet. 191 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:25,700 Where's Chloe? 192 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Chloe is at preschool. 193 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,380 She just started preschool. 194 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,980 Do you feel like Dexter is still a threat to her? 195 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:37,440 He can still be aggressive to the point where we don't want her to get tangled 196 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,180 up. Have there been fights? 197 00:11:40,250 --> 00:11:42,630 But there have been. There still have been fights, yeah. 198 00:11:42,990 --> 00:11:45,410 Okay. Okay. I need to know that. 199 00:11:45,630 --> 00:11:50,890 If it doesn't get to a point where they're, like, fixed 100%, no fighting, 200 00:11:50,890 --> 00:11:51,890 know, they got to go. 201 00:11:52,950 --> 00:11:57,690 Chase is still at that place where one slip up and these cats are gone. Let's 202 00:11:57,690 --> 00:12:01,550 get up and take a look around. That's bad for me because I got a really short 203 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:02,550 rope to work with. 204 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:03,890 Okay. 205 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:06,020 Nice. Love it. 206 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Continuation of that superhighway. I got to tell you, there's no ambushing right 207 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,520 here. That's fantastic. 208 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Here's Daisy. What we're going to try to do is try to lead her up to the 209 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,299 promised land. 210 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:20,440 What I want to do is test Daisy's vertical confidence. I want to see if 211 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,460 higher she gets, the more her cat mojo comes out. 212 00:12:24,460 --> 00:12:25,900 Make a jump. Good girl. 213 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:29,380 There we go. 214 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:31,820 Now can you get up here, baby? 215 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:33,429 Oh, bang! 216 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:35,590 There we go. All the way to the top. 217 00:12:35,870 --> 00:12:37,830 Now, if you could grab Dexter, that would be great. 218 00:12:38,110 --> 00:12:42,310 This is a nice contained area to try and experiment in. The last time I was 219 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:45,950 here, I saw Dexter viciously go after Daisy. And this time, I'm just hoping to 220 00:12:45,950 --> 00:12:49,170 see the two of them in the same room without bloodshed. And it's not just 221 00:12:49,170 --> 00:12:52,810 important that I see this. It's important that Shay sees it, too, 222 00:12:52,810 --> 00:12:56,730 false move and he'll rehome them. We have Daisy. I want to see what happens 223 00:12:56,730 --> 00:12:58,150 she gets a little lower in the world. 224 00:12:58,590 --> 00:12:59,930 Now, just wait. Here she comes. 225 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:04,430 One more step. 226 00:13:04,930 --> 00:13:07,070 I don't like how Dexter's fixating on her. 227 00:13:09,150 --> 00:13:10,370 Wait to see what happens. 228 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:11,950 Watch this moment here. 229 00:13:13,630 --> 00:13:14,890 Now, what are you going to do? 230 00:13:15,270 --> 00:13:18,430 That says a thousand words right there. 231 00:13:19,270 --> 00:13:22,710 See, she's not even looking at him anymore. And let me just interpret body 232 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:25,770 language. She points at her ears at him as if to say, you got something? 233 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:30,790 He's like, no, actually I don't. She just saunters down the highway, staring 234 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:32,570 Dexter down. He moves out of her way. 235 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Her confidence in sending a message. She doesn't feel like being Dexter's play 236 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,360 toy right now. 237 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:41,940 Now that she's catified this area, she has such a better world. 238 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:46,320 It was amazing seeing someone you love accomplish something. 239 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,700 I thought it was really cool. 240 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:49,380 Right? It was so cool. 241 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:53,980 Okay, cool. I'm not the only one. Look at you. I'm stoked. I mean, watching 242 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:58,840 like, face her fears and be able to master that, it's just so awesome. 243 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,540 On the surface, everything looks great, but we're not 100 % there. I mean, Daisy 244 00:14:03,540 --> 00:14:07,360 still can't sit on the floor with Dexter, and most importantly, Daisy is 245 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,259 peeing blood. 246 00:14:08,260 --> 00:14:09,980 There's something very wrong here. 247 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:14,560 Now the first thing I want to do is I want to get this cat to the vet. They're 248 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,200 going to work until they find what's wrong with her. 249 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:19,560 Something's wrong in this cat's body. We've got to deal with that. Next thing 250 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,940 we're going to do is have you guys continue with the work you just saw me 251 00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:27,620 which is getting her working that superhighway. We have to give Daisy as 252 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:31,660 escape angles as we possibly can so she can get out and get away from Dexter. 253 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,140 I've got one more thing for you guys. Hold on one sec. 254 00:14:34,820 --> 00:14:36,550 All right. Alrighty then. 255 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:40,790 So what I've got here is all kinds of self -activated toys. 256 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:43,210 But once you get them going, they go by themselves. 257 00:14:43,510 --> 00:14:47,210 Because Dexter's a young cat with endless energy, I brought in some self 258 00:14:47,210 --> 00:14:51,050 -activated toys for them. Things that they can put around the house just to 259 00:14:51,050 --> 00:14:54,610 Dexter something to direct that attention on that's not Daisy. 260 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:57,390 Call me with questions, okay? Thank you so much. All right. 261 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,740 To be honest, right now I'm almost feeling kind of nervous, like my back is 262 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:03,820 against the wall, because I feel like we've exhausted every option. I mean, we 263 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:07,920 have Jackson Galaxy in our house trying to fix this problem. Like, we have done 264 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,800 everything that we can think of. 265 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:13,920 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 266 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,220 What year was cat litter invented? 267 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:21,880 Was it A, 1936, B, 1947, or C, 1958? 268 00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:26,120 The answer is B, 1947. 269 00:15:27,180 --> 00:15:30,720 Before 1947, ashes and sand were used in cat boxes. 270 00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:34,540 Edward Lowe suggested that a neighbor of his start using clay instead, which was 271 00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:37,560 much more absorbent than sand and much cleaner than acid. 272 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,440 I'm here for my final visit with Chase and Maya, their daughter Chloe, and 273 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,760 two cats, Daisy and Dexter. 274 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,460 Now, the first time I met these guys, the violence between Daisy and Dexter 275 00:15:49,460 --> 00:15:52,880 off the charts. Chloe, their two -year -old daughter, was getting caught in the 276 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,590 middle. And Daisy was peeing blood and urine all over the house, and Chase was 277 00:15:57,590 --> 00:16:01,430 ready to send both cats packing. So today, I want to make sure that Daisy 278 00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:05,810 seen a vet and that the bloodshed has finally ended. Hey, how are you? Good to 279 00:16:05,810 --> 00:16:07,430 see you. Good to see you. How have you been? 280 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:08,850 I've been good. 281 00:16:08,950 --> 00:16:13,110 Yeah? Well, the most important thing I can ask you is, since the last time I 282 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:15,810 here, any attacks, any ambushing? 283 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,780 You know, there are no more attacks. 284 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,200 There's no more aggression. 285 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,740 He's not cornering her. He's not hunting her. He's not predatory. 286 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:25,940 Fantastic. 287 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Really, that's great news. 288 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:32,700 It's so much better. When Dexter gets excited now, we see that when that 289 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,360 goes up, grab a toy, intervene. 290 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,300 So you're able to redirect his play aggression from his target onto a good 291 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:45,040 target. And the huge change, too, with that is Daisy's involvement from that 292 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,240 time we distract Dexter. 293 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,120 It's like she's jumping right in and playing as well. Are you serious? Oh, 294 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,360 The fact that there's no fighting, I mean, it's huge. 295 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:59,040 Whoa. Right off the bat, fantastic news. I mean, there has been no aggression, 296 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,280 no attack. 297 00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:04,040 They have reestablished their relationship together, and it's because 298 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Maya and Chase have been doing. 299 00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:07,000 Cool. Thank you. Kind of crazy. 300 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:08,960 Love it. 301 00:17:09,579 --> 00:17:13,200 Of course, I still want to look at your video homework, so here we go. Oh, my 302 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,420 God! Two happy kitties. 303 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,859 Dexter and Daisy are sharing space on top of a cat tree. That kind of thing 304 00:17:19,859 --> 00:17:20,858 you only dream about. 305 00:17:20,859 --> 00:17:24,780 Got to be nice to have him back with you on this one, yeah? Absolutely. It's 306 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:26,020 hard being a single pet parent. 307 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:27,979 It is. 308 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:28,980 It is, I know. 309 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,960 Daisy at the vet. 310 00:17:31,660 --> 00:17:33,220 I know, you're okay, little... 311 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,060 She's got stones in her bladder. Oh, my God. I seriously can't believe what I'm 312 00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:42,100 seeing. Daisy's bladder is literally filled with stones. Now, there are 313 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:46,140 factors that could help cause this. I mean, from dietary factors to genetic 314 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:49,120 factors to the leftovers from a urinary tract infection. 315 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:54,000 It doesn't really matter. The bottom line is that Daisy's blood in her urine 316 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,360 not caused by stress. It was caused by these stones. 317 00:17:57,050 --> 00:17:59,250 Oh my, she must have been in the worst pain. 318 00:17:59,530 --> 00:18:01,730 So that means that we're looking at surgery. 319 00:18:02,010 --> 00:18:05,870 We're trying right now, diet first, to try to dissolve the stones. 320 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,400 Yeah, with that many, I mean... Just waiting for these stones to dissolve 321 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,540 take a long time. 322 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,320 Now, I realize that surgery's expensive, but with all the days he's been 323 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,160 through, one more day of this kind of pain is too much. In my mind, it was 324 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,920 this diet better work, because spending $2 ,000 is like, I don't know how I can 325 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:24,920 justify doing that. 326 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:29,220 I do still want to get up, walk around, but most of all, I just want to hang out 327 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:32,480 with these cats, man. So let's just start in here. Come on. I got to see 328 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,900 two cats in the same space, sharing it, playing. 329 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:41,570 No. sign an attack fine i can leave this house happy we have success so uh 330 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:47,030 there's dexter there's daisy let's get some boys out get them over here man oh 331 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:52,910 what is that look at daisy daisy's just taking the space dexter's hanging back a 332 00:18:52,910 --> 00:18:58,950 little bit he is interested only in that toy and chase you are playing with 333 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:04,390 dexter which i could not have expected the first day i got here Now, Daisy, 334 00:19:04,490 --> 00:19:08,150 let's break it down for a second. She jumps down into the middle of the floor. 335 00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:11,990 She takes the middle of the territory to play, while Dexter hangs out on the 336 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:13,150 side. Role reversal. 337 00:19:13,550 --> 00:19:18,410 Completely different. She is a changed cat. She's more secure, more confident, 338 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:19,630 and that's a happy cat. 339 00:19:19,890 --> 00:19:21,270 Who do we have here? 340 00:19:21,550 --> 00:19:22,369 You say hi. 341 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:23,370 Hi, Chloe. 342 00:19:23,410 --> 00:19:24,510 How are you, baby? 343 00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:30,350 I want to play with the kitty. 344 00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:33,800 Yeah, we want to play with kitties. Yeah. You want the toy? 345 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,060 How are you feeling in terms of Chloe's safety? 346 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,380 The ability just to have them in the same space playing together like we've 347 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:44,220 doing speaks volumes to me. Chloe interacts with them, and I'm not worried 348 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:45,220 anymore. 349 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,240 I'm not. Yay. 350 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,220 Yeah. I don't think about getting rid of him anymore. 351 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,340 I don't call him the little b**** anymore. 352 00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:53,120 The birth of a cat guy. 353 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:56,360 Yeah. We recruited another one. 354 00:19:56,620 --> 00:20:00,000 The fact that he was able to come in and take someone who... 355 00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:04,870 didn't like animals very much, didn't like the cats, and was wanting to get 356 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:09,170 of them, and transforming into this, into someone who actually kind of calls 357 00:20:09,170 --> 00:20:11,810 himself a cat guy, that's huge. 358 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:13,650 We can't thank you enough. 359 00:20:14,939 --> 00:20:19,660 Daisy's life, ultimately, and Dexter's home. So that's so good to hear. But 360 00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:23,560 here's the thing. You guys have put in so much work. I'm going to help you out 361 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,400 with this surgery, okay? And we're going to find a way to make this happen. Oh, 362 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,680 thank you. Thank you. 363 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Thank you. 364 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:33,080 Thank you so much for everything. You're welcome. You're welcome. You guys 365 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,280 deserve it. Thank you. You deserve it. 366 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,540 You guys deserve all the happiness with these cats. 367 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,020 All right, guys, on that note. 368 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,460 I'm leaving, okay. Tell me what's going on with Daisy. I want to hear. We will. 369 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,319 Thank you. 370 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Bye -bye. Bye. 371 00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:46,540 Say bye, Chloe. Bye, Chloe. 372 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:48,460 Bye, baby. 373 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,240 Now, even though we know Daisy has bladder stones, I know we can take care 374 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,360 that quickly. I've got a vet friend who's going to step in and help us out 375 00:20:57,460 --> 00:20:58,460 It's the least I could do. 376 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:05,680 So after my last visit, Chase and Maya sent me a video message of all their 377 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,180 progress. Hi, Jackson. 378 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,600 So we're here today at VIP that already married Thursday, waiting for Daisy to 379 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,600 go back for her surgery. 380 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,000 Hi, I'm Pedro Cisneros, but married. 381 00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:17,580 Here's her little stitches. 382 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:19,360 She's waking up well. 383 00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:26,940 It's such a relief to be able to walk past the letterbox down and not see 384 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:28,540 and not be afraid to look in there. 385 00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:29,780 So cool. 386 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:34,200 Thank you so much, Jackson, for everything, for restoring peace to our 387 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,160 sanity for me and helping Deezy get back to her old self. We could never thank 388 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,859 you enough. 389 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:41,180 Anytime, Maya, anytime. 390 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,060 I love it when a case comes together. I love it. 391 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,540 Give her a text us once or twice a day. 392 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:52,480 People are deathly afraid of our cat. 393 00:21:52,780 --> 00:21:54,980 He's got to be better or he's going to be gone. 394 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:08,699 Well, 395 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:17,220 I'm 396 00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:17,999 here in Austin. 397 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,520 I'm going to go see Corey and Sarah. 398 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:22,140 Corey gave Sarah a giver for her birthday. 399 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:26,080 Considering that boy will draw blood at any chance he gets. 400 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:29,100 Man, he's one gift Corey would love to give back. 401 00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:30,779 I'm Sarah. 402 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:31,780 And I'm Corey. 403 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,480 We've been married for a couple years, but we've been together for 10 years. 404 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,380 I love a cat that's aggressive. 405 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:43,440 All of a sudden, he'll just turn like that. 406 00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:46,020 And go crazy and start to bite. 407 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,980 He bit my cheek pretty bad. 408 00:22:51,580 --> 00:22:52,960 Ow! Ow! 409 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,340 He's a nightmare with guests and visitors, and we'll lash out at them 410 00:22:57,340 --> 00:23:00,820 forcefully. And now people are deathly afraid of our cat. 411 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,080 This is not predictable. 412 00:23:02,140 --> 00:23:05,260 This is the spot where he'll not attack, but where he's weak. 413 00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:10,320 He has this odd affection for this bridge, and usually you can pet him 414 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,480 have no idea what it is. 415 00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:15,340 Corey and I have very different perspectives on how to handle his 416 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,440 Corey is always yelling at me and telling me how to change my behaviors. 417 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,420 So what are you doing right now? You're playing. 418 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,160 He's telling you no. 419 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,180 It's been a big problem. I mean, we had a lot of fights. It's causing us a lot 420 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:27,739 of tension. 421 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:30,160 I have my theories about just giving them space. 422 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,820 I go in and I'm like, nuzzle, nuzzle, you're so sweet, I love you. And then 423 00:23:34,820 --> 00:23:35,980 it's, there's bitten. 424 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,360 We don't agree. We don't see the eye to eye. 425 00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:42,770 I'm not the type of person that wants to give a cat up. 426 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:46,370 It would break my heart. I would rather get rid of him, especially if he's 427 00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:48,170 continuing to be antagonistic towards us. 428 00:23:56,550 --> 00:23:57,550 Hey. Hi. 429 00:23:57,670 --> 00:24:00,710 How are you, Jackson? Good. Nice to meet you, Sarah. Good to meet you, Sarah. 430 00:24:01,330 --> 00:24:04,450 Hey, Jackson. Corey, hi. Corey, good to meet you. Yeah, thanks for coming. 431 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:05,710 Oh, absolutely. 432 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:07,970 Well, tell me what's going on here. 433 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:11,900 Just over two years old. He's been biting since we got him. 434 00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:15,760 And he's aggressive and really bad. 435 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,180 And like even when you try to walk away, he's going to lunge. 436 00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:20,660 He's bad. 437 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,300 He seems to be a lot more aggressive when friends aren't around. 438 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:28,040 He bounces and attacks or like jumps out at our friends. 439 00:24:29,610 --> 00:24:32,630 It's one thing to get scratched. We've seen that a million times. But once we 440 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:35,110 get into bite territory, it's a whole other level. 441 00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:39,530 80 % of all cat bites get infected, and that's because their teeth can inject a 442 00:24:39,530 --> 00:24:43,510 bacteria called Pastorella. Then you wind up in a hospital with antibiotics 443 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:44,630 running through your system. 444 00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:47,950 I leave him alone when he starts to show signs of being aggressive. 445 00:24:48,270 --> 00:24:52,090 Sarah's a little bit more persistent with trying to get him to calm down by 446 00:24:52,090 --> 00:24:54,330 physically touching him or by petting him or whatever. 447 00:24:54,550 --> 00:24:57,030 You guys are obviously coming from a completely different place. 448 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,580 So I learned really quickly that these two are not on the same page when it 449 00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:06,540 comes to how they treat Giver. 450 00:25:06,820 --> 00:25:08,720 Neither approach has clearly worked. 451 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,260 I would rather get rid of him, but we're not in agreement about getting rid of 452 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:13,099 the cat. 453 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,300 Like it caused a lot of stress between us. 454 00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:21,860 I don't want to lose him. 455 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,740 Okay. All right. What I want to do is first to have you guys point out all the 456 00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:30,300 places in the territory that he tends to go after people. Let's just get up. 457 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,600 Start walking around. 458 00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:37,040 Okay, so, guys, where are the problems in the house? 459 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,200 He kind of camps out under here a lot when we've got guests over, and that's 460 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,200 where he pops out. 461 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:46,060 So as they're coming through the door, you mean? 462 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,920 Giver is obviously a cat with violence issues, but he's also a cat with 463 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,100 territorial issues because he shows aggression to anybody who comes into his 464 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:58,240 home. This is the spot not where he'll attack, but where he's sweet. 465 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,240 It's only sweet here? 466 00:26:00,460 --> 00:26:04,760 No. Like, you can pet him here. He's been really interested in the fridge. 467 00:26:05,140 --> 00:26:07,840 He'll rub up against the table. He'll rub against the door. 468 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,600 He'll try to get in it. Let me get this right. Your wine cooler here, if he's 469 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,460 here, he's cool? Mm -hmm. That is a new one on me. 470 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:21,950 Now, I'm trying to figure out this whole wine cooler thing, and it's not making 471 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:22,689 any sense. 472 00:26:22,690 --> 00:26:26,590 I mean, is it the pitch of the hum of the thing? Is it the coolness of it? 473 00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:30,870 I don't know. Now, I could spend hours trying to figure this one out, but the 474 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:32,530 first thing that I have to do is meet Giver. 475 00:26:33,650 --> 00:26:34,650 Okay, buddy boy. 476 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:38,030 Let's see when we get to know each other. 477 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:39,230 What do you say? 478 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:47,140 Immediately, I could tell the giver saw me as a threat. I mean, not only were 479 00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:50,980 his eyes dilated, they were literally bulging out of his head. He was ready to 480 00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:55,180 explode. And you and I are going to have a moment. 481 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:57,260 Yes. 482 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,440 Be cool. 483 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,940 Ow! Okay, come here, buddy. 484 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,640 Ow! 485 00:27:05,260 --> 00:27:06,260 Ow, dude! 486 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,880 Ow! 487 00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,980 Instantly, game on, lunging. 488 00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:15,090 I had to see how Giver would react as a stranger. 489 00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:21,350 He's pushing my challenge line, and I came in there to push his. 490 00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:33,110 When Giver bit me, that was him saying, do you understand my language? Get away 491 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:35,430 from me. Oh, God, you got me good. 492 00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:40,610 Now my next job is to see if he can recover. Can he trust me? Can he accept 493 00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:41,750 things from me as well? 494 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,340 Or am I dealing with a neurological problem? 495 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,740 If I can just get Giver to play, then I know that I can work with him. 496 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,240 What is that? 497 00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:56,980 What is that? 498 00:27:58,340 --> 00:27:59,340 What is that? 499 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:07,500 Good boy. 500 00:28:11,470 --> 00:28:13,250 at how you switch gears. Good boy. 501 00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:19,070 Giver turned around, immediately accepted me as a playmate when, before I 502 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:20,590 dinner. That was fantastic. 503 00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:22,930 We can strike out neurological problems. 504 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:27,150 Giver's a territorially insecure cat, and Cory and Sarah's different ways of 505 00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:29,710 handling him are just increasing those insecurities. 506 00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:33,030 If these two keep this up, one of them's going to wind up in the hospital from a 507 00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:34,030 nasty bite. 508 00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:37,510 I'm telling you, I got a lot of work to do with the humans as well as Giver. 509 00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:40,710 Now, first thing, here. 510 00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:43,210 It's our gold star jar, and this is your homework. 511 00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:47,850 What I'd like you to do is just write cards out. With cards, you're going to 512 00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:48,850 have tasks. 513 00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:53,350 It could be, you know, give love the way you do it, or it could be brushing. 514 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:56,670 I want them to write down activities they can do with Giver, and then each 515 00:28:56,670 --> 00:29:00,670 they're going to pick a card and engage Giver as a couple. This exercise is key 516 00:29:00,670 --> 00:29:02,090 to getting everyone on the same page. 517 00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:03,890 And this boy needs to play. 518 00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:07,770 He's not getting enough play. The play has to happen every day. Then let's talk 519 00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:08,850 about this wine cooler. 520 00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:10,730 Here's the thing. 521 00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,470 I'm still not sure what it is that attracts him so much to it. 522 00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:17,690 So what I want to do is recreate that, bring it out into the center of the 523 00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:21,570 I want you to build like a cat jungle gym. I still don't know what it is about 524 00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:25,930 that wine fridge that attracts Giver, but I do know that I want Corey and 525 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:28,050 to recreate it in a socially significant area. 526 00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:30,570 Then I want you to bring people over here, okay? 527 00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:34,810 But you don't have to say, don't touch Giver. Just let him hang out with you, 528 00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:36,870 okay? You guys are going to get to work. 529 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:38,610 And I will see you real soon, okay? 530 00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:41,670 Sounds good. Great to meet you. Good to meet you. Good to meet you, buddy. We'll 531 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:45,130 talk to you soon, all right? If all these things don't work, I think we're 532 00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:47,510 to have to have bigger decisions made about him. 533 00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:50,190 He's got to be better or he's going to be gone. 534 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,100 I'm back in Austin. I'm outside Sarah and Cory's house for my second visit 535 00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:03,240 them and their cat, Giver. Now, the first time I was here, I was dealing 536 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,560 couple who were not on the same page when it comes to how they treat Giver. 537 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Giver's violence was off the charts. I mean, he tore me up. 538 00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:12,660 Now, 539 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,380 I watched the video homework, and I did get to see Cory and Sarah playing with 540 00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:19,420 Giver and trying to focus his energy on an appropriate target. 541 00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:24,260 I also saw Giver on his jungle gym. Now, what I wanted was for that to be a safe 542 00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:27,900 place, like the wine fridge, which was the one place that he felt calm. And 543 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,820 enough, I was right. Giver loves it. The one thing I didn't see was the gold 544 00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:35,840 star jar exercise, and that was key to getting Corey and Sarah on the same 545 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:40,060 Now, that concerns me because Corey made it clear that if Giver doesn't shape 546 00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:41,060 up, he's out. 547 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,359 Hey, Sarah. 548 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,250 Hi. How are you? Good. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. Hey, man. How you 549 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:51,030 doing, Corey? Good. How are you? I'm great. Thank you so much. 550 00:30:51,670 --> 00:30:53,350 Tell me, what's been happening here? 551 00:30:54,490 --> 00:30:58,170 We've had a couple of visitors since we've last been here. 552 00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:03,610 And the first visitor was pretty much aggressively stalked and attacked. 553 00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:10,390 And the second visitor, by the time we had been able to do our homework 554 00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:11,390 assignments, was... 555 00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:16,050 A little bit different, a little bit better, I think. Good. 556 00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:19,230 There were a couple times where he jumped out and batted at her legs, but 557 00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:20,230 was no biting. 558 00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:21,410 All right, good, good. 559 00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:23,910 What did you guys do specifically that got him to that point? 560 00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:28,390 We set up the jungle gym, and we've been playing with him a lot. 561 00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:31,990 Did you get him to that point where he was just like, I've had it, I'm done? 562 00:31:32,270 --> 00:31:36,490 Maybe once or twice we wore him out, but for the most part he wanted to keep 563 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:40,070 playing. What I want is literally panting. 564 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:41,630 Like, I want him done. 565 00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:46,000 Hmm. A really important component was play. 566 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,980 And they said they've been playing with him a lot, but they can't tire him out. 567 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,460 That's code, if you ask me, to we're not playing with him enough. 568 00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:57,400 I gave you guys the gold star jar last time I was here. Try to get you guys on 569 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,520 the same page. Tell me about that. 570 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,180 So we have been using the gold star jar zero. 571 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:10,870 The idea was to put action oriented tasks in the jar. You pull it out and 572 00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:14,390 guys would have to do the same thing. You basically wanted them on the same 573 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:15,390 communicative page. 574 00:32:15,550 --> 00:32:19,130 If people like this don't do their homework, when I come all the way from L 575 00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:23,650 to Austin and they just blow it up, they decide that it's not important. It's an 576 00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:24,910 insult to me today. 577 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,660 We're going to walk around the space again because we still have a sense. Is 578 00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:32,280 territorial? Is it play? Is it something else completely? 579 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160 We also have two of our friends coming. 580 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:39,300 Fantastic. All right, so let's start right over there. Come on. 581 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:43,240 First of all, lovely. 582 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,560 I love this thing so much. This is a great replacement for the wine cooler, 583 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,920 guys. As we explore the vertical space, I think we're going to find... 584 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:56,520 There's a knock at the door. These are the friends that Giver had terrorized in 585 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,700 the past when they were pet sitting. I couldn't wait to hear from them. I'm 586 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,540 Jackson. Hi, nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Amy. 587 00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:05,560 These guys have had a bad experience with this cat. 588 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,600 So first it was Kristen's turn. Take me sort of step by step through what 589 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,920 happened. I got his food out of the refrigerator. 590 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,200 That's when he lunged at me. At this point I was kind of afraid. I hooked my 591 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880 booty up on the counter. 592 00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:21,830 I stimulated across. 593 00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:27,030 Are you kidding me? It's hard for me because this whole experience that 594 00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:29,130 is relaying to me is funny. 595 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:34,650 But you start thinking about the insane things that people do around their cats. 596 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:36,050 I went to the restroom. 597 00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:40,450 He started coming at me. I picked up the rug at the front door and held it in 598 00:33:40,450 --> 00:33:43,210 front of me as he's lunging at me. Got my purse and I left. 599 00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:46,350 From these firsthand stories from both Kristen and Amy. 600 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,180 This is Giver Territorially Aggressive. I'm going to give you guys some 601 00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:54,440 homework. You guys will come back over here, interact with Giver, and you guys 602 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,800 will video it for me? Yes. Okay. I want a trust accent, but going in to see 603 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,420 Giver makes my heart race. Like, it makes me sweat. 604 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,120 Thanks for coming, guys. Thanks. I think it's really important for Kristen and 605 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,139 Amy to go through the homework, not just because it gives Giver a chance to 606 00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:13,480 change, but it gives their friends a chance to heal from their traumatic 607 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,300 experiences. Now it was time to spend some time with Giver. I'm hoping it goes 608 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:18,300 better this time. 609 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,800 Hi. 610 00:34:25,219 --> 00:34:26,219 How's it going, mister? 611 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:28,780 The last time I was here, Giver beat me up pretty good. 612 00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,460 So today, I need to see more progress. 613 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,020 I got tuna, and I'm just going to sit here with you. 614 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Come on. 615 00:34:48,529 --> 00:34:52,510 Ow! Giver's swats are more like warnings that he needs more time and space to 616 00:34:52,510 --> 00:34:56,449 warm up to me, so I'm going to hang back and hope I see more progress, because 617 00:34:56,449 --> 00:34:57,610 otherwise we're in big trouble. 618 00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:59,390 Hey, buddy, buddy. 619 00:34:59,850 --> 00:35:00,850 Hey. 620 00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:02,810 It's okay. 621 00:35:02,850 --> 00:35:03,850 Good boy. 622 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:07,950 Come here, please. 623 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:10,470 Come here, please. 624 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:17,140 That's a good boy. 625 00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:21,800 That's worth a thousand words right there, isn't it? 626 00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:25,420 That's worth a thousand words, isn't it? 627 00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:31,500 Giver just rubbed up against me. Are you kidding me? I mean, just a few minutes 628 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:35,140 ago he was attacking me, and now he's rubbing up against me. He's basically 629 00:35:35,140 --> 00:35:40,040 complimenting his scent with mine, saying, I own you, in a very loving way. 630 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,380 I just cannot wait to tell Corey and Sarah what just happened. Let me tell 631 00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:44,380 what I... 632 00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:46,030 understand about his language right now. 633 00:35:46,570 --> 00:35:47,690 Territorially completely insecure. 634 00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:49,710 That we kind of get, right? 635 00:35:50,090 --> 00:35:52,470 But he's giving us the keys to his language. 636 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:55,930 When Giver seems nervous, you need to leave him alone. But when he's acting 637 00:35:55,930 --> 00:35:59,970 violent, that's when you need to redirect his aggression with play. But 638 00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:02,090 things first, we need to get you both on the same page. 639 00:36:02,350 --> 00:36:05,590 That brings us back to the gold star jar. I'm going to give this to you 640 00:36:06,010 --> 00:36:08,410 It's all about understanding his language. 641 00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:11,970 Another piece of your homework, I wanted your friends to come back in again. 642 00:36:12,350 --> 00:36:16,210 They will sit on the couch, a toy, a treat, something will come out to make 643 00:36:16,210 --> 00:36:18,970 think that every time he goes in the living room, good things happen. 644 00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:22,170 The other part of understanding his language is play aggression. 645 00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:26,830 That's to tell you you're not playing hard enough with him. When he's pooped, 646 00:36:26,830 --> 00:36:29,590 can promise you he's not going to come after you that way. 647 00:36:29,830 --> 00:36:33,730 All right, guys, I'm off to L .A. Any questions at all? You call me, right? 648 00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:37,250 Sounds good. Great to see you again. This is pretty much our last -ditch 649 00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:40,430 to help out with givers, so if this really doesn't work, then I think we'll 650 00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:41,510 out of options at that point. 651 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,820 I would rehome him. I don't know what else we would do. 652 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:03,540 So I'm here in Austin for my final visit with Corey and Sarah about their cat, 653 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,600 Giver. 654 00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:09,780 This cat has a violent past, just carving them up and their friend. 655 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,700 Corey said that if Giver doesn't shape up, he's out. So hopefully these guys 656 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:19,080 on the same page about how to treat him. 657 00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:24,840 Hey, Jackson. What's up, Corey? How you doing, man? If they follow their 658 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,820 homework this time, I hope I'm going to see a different cat, but you never know. 659 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,160 How have things been? 660 00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:32,000 How's life with Giver? 661 00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:37,220 Has he attacked you or your friends since the last time I was here? 662 00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:44,670 He has not been vicious. 663 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:47,470 Seriously, 664 00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:52,170 that's a huge deal. Last night we had two people over. He was actually 665 00:37:52,410 --> 00:37:54,190 He was kind of rubbing up on our legs. 666 00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:58,310 What? Yeah, he was as friendly as he's ever been with our friends over. Wow. 667 00:37:59,230 --> 00:38:03,430 Gibber's not only not attacking, he's actually rubbing up against people. He's 668 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:07,450 letting them know that they're friendly, he owns them, he can keep moving on. 669 00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:09,330 He doesn't have to challenge anymore. 670 00:38:09,570 --> 00:38:15,610 We've been playing with Giver and keeping him active and having re 671 00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:19,650 -territorialized the room and the space as well as giving him a lot of different 672 00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:23,370 areas that he can call his own. We're still diverting his aggression when he 673 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,610 starts to show aggression towards us. Good work. 674 00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:32,730 Jackson helped us learn Giver's language and I'm very happy that... we got the 675 00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:34,530 help that we ultimately needed. 676 00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:38,990 As always, I have your video document. So let's watch to see what you guys have 677 00:38:38,990 --> 00:38:39,669 been doing. 678 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:40,670 Hi! 679 00:38:40,890 --> 00:38:42,010 How are you? 680 00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:46,310 I saw that friend Kristen come over and engage Giver with a toy to make him 681 00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:49,070 think that every time he goes in the living room, good things happen. 682 00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:50,169 Oh, nice move. 683 00:38:50,170 --> 00:38:51,170 Nice move. 684 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:56,750 Giver actually, like... Is she really hand -feeding him? Uh -huh. Wow! 685 00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:59,670 Now she's learned Giver's language. And for her, that's big. 686 00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:01,490 So proud of him. 687 00:39:02,110 --> 00:39:05,610 This is the jar that you gave us. We're communicating better. 688 00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:11,070 Fantastic. And finally, I saw Corey and Sarah using the gold star jar, working 689 00:39:11,070 --> 00:39:15,430 together to provide Giver with that stable home life, which is key to his 690 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:17,350 success. Corey, what do you think I should do? 691 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:20,210 Petting him or leave him alone? 692 00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:21,550 He's obviously nervous. 693 00:39:21,850 --> 00:39:23,710 Leave him alone. I'm going to leave him. 694 00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:26,130 Look at that. 695 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:27,670 Got you speaking cat. 696 00:39:28,060 --> 00:39:29,660 Let's get up and walk around a little bit. Come on. Okay. 697 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:35,180 Immediately, when I get out into the living room, I see Giver poking his head 698 00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:38,760 out from between the furniture. Now, when I first got here, Giver was only 699 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,700 friendly near the wine fridge, which was off of the corner and away from other 700 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:46,240 people. So, before I leave here today, I need to see Giver feeling comfortable 701 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:47,620 out in the middle of the room. 702 00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:49,640 Then I'll know he's a changed cat. 703 00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:53,940 I kind of want to get in here, so I'm going to grab a toy out of here, and I'm 704 00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:55,440 just going to see what I can do for him. 705 00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:59,730 Oh, hi. 706 00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:01,230 Hi, babe. Oh, hi. 707 00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:03,230 Come here, my boy. 708 00:40:04,690 --> 00:40:10,330 What is that? 709 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:11,710 What is that? 710 00:40:16,810 --> 00:40:17,970 Good boy. 711 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:28,470 Look at what we got there. 712 00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:33,250 Let me just tell you something. The first day I met him, do you know how 713 00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:34,250 this was? 714 00:40:35,110 --> 00:40:36,110 Yes. 715 00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:38,050 What a good boy you are. 716 00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:39,670 What is that? 717 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:43,630 What is that? Oh, I know. We have all kinds of fun stuff for you. 718 00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:45,950 How are you feeling? 719 00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:47,790 Feeling great. This is incredible. 720 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:52,690 I love it. I am so happy right now. From the living room, you can see Giver's 721 00:40:52,690 --> 00:40:53,990 ultimate exit route. 722 00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:55,470 Hey, buddy boy. 723 00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:56,790 Look at that. 724 00:40:57,150 --> 00:41:01,890 Giver has found a new, beautiful piece of real estate. I love this, guys. 725 00:41:01,890 --> 00:41:04,950 got this wonderful world out here. We've got a bed. 726 00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,750 That's a beautiful fountain. 727 00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:13,610 And it is increasing his sense of ownership of this entire place and that 728 00:41:13,610 --> 00:41:16,890 place by giving him this space. 729 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:19,050 I mean, it's gorgeous out here, man. 730 00:41:19,330 --> 00:41:24,890 This is a really nice area. And, I mean, beautiful cat TV, right? We've got 731 00:41:24,890 --> 00:41:26,490 trees, squirrels, birds. 732 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,340 The whole nine yards, man. 733 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,240 It couldn't be better. And I think what you guys did is fantastic, and clearly 734 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:38,740 he loves it out here. So, yeah, I honestly think that it couldn't be a 735 00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:42,540 space for him. It really couldn't be. And I noticed watching him walk out 736 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:46,960 even though he's looking like this, he's looking around, his tail is totally 737 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,140 still. He's absolutely focused. And that's when you know the giver is okay. 738 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,510 I mean, again, when we talk about giver's language, If his tail's moving, 739 00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:58,229 not okay. 740 00:41:58,230 --> 00:42:01,990 He's still, he is confident, and life is okay. So at least you know what you're 741 00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:02,990 looking for. 742 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:07,670 Having Giver go out on the balcony keeps his attention firmly on what's going on 743 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:09,690 out there, squirrels, birds, whatever. 744 00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:15,410 His tail doesn't move. He's completely focused. Now these guys see what Giver 745 00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:20,910 needs in order to be confident, and that is a still body. So I love it out here. 746 00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:25,270 And obviously, I mean, when you talk about the nature of catapying, It's a 747 00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:28,330 really human -friendly area. This is beautiful out here. 748 00:42:28,890 --> 00:42:34,010 Fantastic. And I also love the fact that he's got in -out. As long as this door 749 00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:39,470 is open, this is just a continuation of that. Your territory just got that much 750 00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:41,170 bigger, and so does his. 751 00:42:41,550 --> 00:42:47,010 Okay, this is fantastic. I mean, how fortunate you guys are to have this 752 00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:48,010 beautiful... 753 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:54,160 addition to the territory it really it makes him that much more calm so great 754 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,520 the first day i meet giver the guy is wedged behind the couch he's petrified 755 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,220 me and today he's grounded comes out to the middle of the room he's friendly 756 00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:07,000 he's secure it's a different cat all the way around out in the open like this 757 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,880 with people around this is incredibly rare i don't think he's ever done this 758 00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:15,660 Bang! From the beginning, I was a little bit skeptical about how Jackson was 759 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:19,140 going to help, but in the end, we're really happy with the progress he's made 760 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:22,440 and really happy not to have to resort to measures like getting rid of him or 761 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,900 rehousing him. Well, guys, it's been fantastic. 762 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,260 You've done wonderful work, and I think you're going to be great. 763 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,600 Jackson would have told us that by the end, Giver was going to come out and 764 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,440 friendly and be around all our friends. I probably wouldn't have believed it. 765 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,640 All right. You guys take care. 766 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,700 It's made us a happier little family. 65977

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