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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,980 Pink is very aggressive. 2 00:00:07,220 --> 00:00:13,940 She kind of comes after me like... We just recently 3 00:00:13,940 --> 00:00:14,859 got engaged. 4 00:00:14,860 --> 00:00:17,660 But we can't live together because of Pink. 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,060 And it's either Pink or Amy if something doesn't change. 6 00:00:21,380 --> 00:00:24,460 I'm afraid to be, like, in the home alone with Zoe. 7 00:00:28,030 --> 00:00:32,150 Three days before our wedding, he just turned around and, like, attacked my 8 00:00:32,390 --> 00:00:33,850 The scratches were very visible. 9 00:00:34,130 --> 00:00:37,490 I filed four reports with animal services. 10 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:41,290 I want the severity of it, like, known and just documented. 11 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:45,870 It was hard for me to accept that fact because I know that he's not going to 12 00:00:45,870 --> 00:00:49,470 kill her. You know, like, I've never seen that side of him. He's never been 13 00:00:49,470 --> 00:00:50,470 vicious to me. 14 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:54,770 This is the last straw for me. So if Zoe's problems can't be fixed, then 15 00:00:54,770 --> 00:00:56,090 have no choice but to give him away. 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,160 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 17 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:05,820 I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 18 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:09,140 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 19 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:15,660 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,500 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 21 00:01:20,540 --> 00:01:24,540 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 22 00:01:25,420 --> 00:01:29,500 When relationships are at an end. I don't have many more options than to 23 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:33,340 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 24 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:35,060 her. I'm their last hope. 25 00:01:38,780 --> 00:01:40,780 Are you all right? 26 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:42,020 Sorry, I don't know. 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one. 28 00:01:46,180 --> 00:01:47,180 Whoa! 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,800 Hey, Pinky. 30 00:02:07,180 --> 00:02:10,860 I'm on my way over to see Katie and Amy right now. These guys are completely in 31 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:14,600 love. They're ready to move in together. The problem is that Katie's cat, Pink, 32 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,820 is a holy terror. 33 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,460 This is not good. 34 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Now I'm going to make sure that this love story has a happy end. 35 00:02:29,380 --> 00:02:30,380 I'm Katie. 36 00:02:30,510 --> 00:02:36,070 And I'm Amy, and we've been together about five months now, and we just 37 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:37,070 got engaged. 38 00:02:37,550 --> 00:02:42,250 We're so excited to be spending the rest of our lives together, and the one 39 00:02:42,250 --> 00:02:45,450 thing that's standing in our way is my cat, Pink. 40 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:50,830 I adopted Pink eight years ago. At first, things were pretty good, but 41 00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:53,970 started to get really bad after the first year and a half of her life. 42 00:02:54,910 --> 00:02:55,910 Where are you guys? 43 00:02:56,770 --> 00:02:57,770 He's hiding. 44 00:02:58,410 --> 00:02:59,530 It's okay, Pink. 45 00:03:01,870 --> 00:03:03,850 She's very, very aggressive. 46 00:03:05,630 --> 00:03:08,130 She's coming after me, swiping, hissing. 47 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:11,970 She kind of comes after me like... 48 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:18,910 He and I spend most of our 49 00:03:18,910 --> 00:03:21,630 time at my house because of Pink. 50 00:03:24,490 --> 00:03:29,590 In terms of moving in with Amy, I'm not only concerned about Amy's safety, I'm 51 00:03:29,590 --> 00:03:32,150 also concerned about the safety of her cat, Twiggles. 52 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:37,030 If something doesn't change, I could have to rehome Pink. 53 00:03:37,790 --> 00:03:39,490 Pink, can you be nice to my girlfriend, please? 54 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:47,830 We are at a standstill right now, and this is not going to work for me, so 55 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:49,870 it's a little stressful. 56 00:03:58,390 --> 00:04:01,150 How are you? I'm good. Thank you so much for being here. Of course. 57 00:04:02,170 --> 00:04:03,170 All right, guys. 58 00:04:03,930 --> 00:04:05,310 So, how goes it? 59 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:08,130 So, Pink is my cat. 60 00:04:08,330 --> 00:04:13,730 Okay. She attacks me. She attacks Amy. She attacks anyone who comes to the 61 00:04:13,730 --> 00:04:17,589 house. And as you're saying that, I'm looking down, and I'm seeing... Is that 62 00:04:17,589 --> 00:04:18,670 today? Yeah, today. 63 00:04:19,310 --> 00:04:22,510 Oh, my God. The claw actually got caught in it. 64 00:04:23,490 --> 00:04:27,010 So there was a claw piece stuck in there. 65 00:04:27,650 --> 00:04:30,370 Man, that's pretty scary. 66 00:04:30,910 --> 00:04:33,590 Now, those are not little baby scratches. 67 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:38,190 Pink put some serious intent behind the damage she did to Amy, and that's 68 00:04:38,190 --> 00:04:41,670 unacceptable. You're staying over at her place all the time. Yeah. How old is 69 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:44,930 Pink? She's eight. And how long have you had her? I've had her since she was 70 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:45,930 like six months old. 71 00:04:46,110 --> 00:04:48,250 Here's the thing. By the age of nine weeks. 72 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,740 Cats learn pretty much socially everything they need. So whatever 73 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:57,440 that age could have been traumatic. How old was she the first time you were 74 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,520 like, oh, what's going on here? 75 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,080 It was probably pretty early on, like maybe a year. 76 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:05,580 You've been dealing with this for seven years? 77 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:06,820 Mm -hmm. 78 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:12,500 I work for Found Animals Foundation, and I know that taking on an animal, you 79 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:14,760 have to be responsible for them for the lifetime. 80 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:18,720 I, you know, want to be that person for Pink. 81 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,540 I love Katie's commitment to Pink, but at the same time, I can't imagine what 82 00:05:23,540 --> 00:05:25,060 it's doing to her and Amy's relationship. 83 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,160 It's one thing to subject yourself to a violent cat, but it's a whole other 84 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,420 ballgame when you factor in a loved one. We want to move in together, and we 85 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:34,460 don't know how to do that. 86 00:05:34,830 --> 00:05:37,530 I have a cat, Twiggle. He's a year old. 87 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:41,870 And because of Pink, we don't know how that's going to happen. 88 00:05:42,470 --> 00:05:46,150 Literally, the only thing that keeps you from doing that is Pink. Yeah. 89 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:47,810 Okay. 90 00:05:47,970 --> 00:05:51,330 I want to meet Pink. Okay. All right, guys? Let's do it. Let's go do it. 91 00:05:52,810 --> 00:05:54,350 Okay. Hi, Pink. 92 00:05:55,390 --> 00:05:57,330 There she is. Yeah, Pink's not psyched. 93 00:05:58,310 --> 00:05:59,310 Hi, baby. 94 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:02,830 Hi, baby. 95 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:03,910 Pinky. 96 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:06,290 I know. 97 00:06:06,470 --> 00:06:10,730 I want you to try presenting your hand in a way that might not be threatening 98 00:06:10,730 --> 00:06:11,730 her. Okay. 99 00:06:13,530 --> 00:06:17,830 It's no 100 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:22,330 fun for you. 101 00:06:23,170 --> 00:06:24,170 Okay. 102 00:06:26,290 --> 00:06:30,470 You're moving with some serious fear right now. I know. Okay. 103 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:32,370 Because? 104 00:06:34,780 --> 00:06:37,620 I have been attacked by her many times. 105 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,860 But the only way that you're going to get where you want to get with her is to 106 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:49,880 release the trauma that you're in. She is clearly terrified of her own cat, and 107 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,200 that worries me a lot. 108 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Let's let me spend some time alone with her. Okay. 109 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,560 I'm going to go out there, get my guitar case, and come back in. All right. 110 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,519 Sounds good. 111 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,100 Dealing with violent cats is part of my job. 112 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:06,140 What I do. Is it the part of my job that I cherish the most? No. I don't want to 113 00:07:06,140 --> 00:07:08,360 go in there and have my butt handed to me. 114 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,560 But it's how I get information. 115 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:15,080 I want to know what's predictable, what's behavioral that I can work with, 116 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,200 what's beyond my capabilities. 117 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:19,740 Now, what if I put my hand in here? What's going to happen? 118 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,980 Hi, busy little one. 119 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,760 Hi. 120 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,680 It's okay, babe. 121 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Five inches. 122 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Four inches. 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Three inches. 124 00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:53,920 Can I touch you? 125 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,080 I'm right here. 126 00:07:57,780 --> 00:08:01,980 There were... More than a few things that concern me. First of all, blinking 127 00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:06,420 me, which is a good sign. But her tail is going while she's licking her lips, 128 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:07,880 which are a bad sign. 129 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Sending totally mixed signals all over the place. Man, that was a good one. 130 00:08:13,340 --> 00:08:16,860 Now, let's start. See if I can get a response out of you. 131 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,280 It's not death. 132 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,400 Oh, it's that. 133 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Don't be hissing at the food. 134 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,620 Go ahead and hiss at it. 135 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,740 I want you to have some food. 136 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Now. 137 00:08:29,740 --> 00:08:30,740 Can you have some food? 138 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:35,400 Oh, good girl. 139 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:38,559 Good girl, Pink. 140 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,360 Good girl. You want some more? 141 00:08:46,740 --> 00:08:47,960 And your food. 142 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,840 There you go. 143 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:52,140 Now I'm going to touch the spoon while you're eating. 144 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:59,500 Being able to feed Pink so soon after she decimated me, that's... Big, 145 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:01,320 big news to me. Why? 146 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:05,700 Because it shows you that she can learn to trust. She can be a, quote, normal 147 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,080 cat. And this is one of those places we can start. 148 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,540 Pink, I'm going to leave you now. 149 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,300 You forgive me, I'll forgive you. 150 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:21,760 How'd it go in there? 151 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,200 It was interesting. 152 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,540 When I saw what Pink did today, I was, you know, concerned for him, but... 153 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,320 What really popped up was twiggles because if pink is like this, I'm sorry, 154 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,700 it's not going to work. 155 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,400 Let's start with your homework. The first big thing is changing your energy 156 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,660 around her. No more of the old nervous and scared reactions that you had. 157 00:09:47,050 --> 00:09:51,430 The vibe of fear that Katie puts out about herself and her relationship with 158 00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:56,330 Pink actually instigates aggression with a cat like Pink. I also need you guys 159 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:57,630 to spend more time here. Yeah. 160 00:09:57,850 --> 00:09:58,850 It's crucial. 161 00:09:58,890 --> 00:10:02,890 The less social she is, the more she's going to be totally overstimulated by 162 00:10:02,890 --> 00:10:06,430 your presence, so she's going to bite you. Got it. The other thing that I want 163 00:10:06,430 --> 00:10:10,250 you to do is start playing with this cat. So let's break out this toy right 164 00:10:10,250 --> 00:10:14,200 here. We've got to get her energy out of her, but in a safe way. So I presented 165 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,740 them with one of my wand toys. It's interactive, but it keeps you safe at 166 00:10:17,740 --> 00:10:20,720 same time. Her body and her mind have to be grounded. 167 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,060 And all the things I gave you today are ways to get this started. 168 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:28,640 I'm just really hoping that this works. 169 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240 You know, this is really our last hope. 170 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:46,480 I'm going in for my second visit right now with Katie and Amy and Katie's cat, 171 00:10:46,660 --> 00:10:51,140 Pink. Now, Katie and Amy want to move in together. They simply can't because of 172 00:10:51,140 --> 00:10:52,140 Pink's violence. 173 00:10:52,660 --> 00:10:57,000 And the last time I was here, she beat me senseless. 174 00:10:57,220 --> 00:10:59,740 She's a scary cat. I don't know what to expect today. 175 00:11:01,820 --> 00:11:02,840 Jackson! Jamie! 176 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Hey! Come on in! 177 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:06,680 How you doing? So good to see you. 178 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:08,140 How you been? Great. 179 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,540 I'm so glad that you're here. 180 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:11,020 Well, thanks. 181 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:14,050 You're kind of smiley. Yeah. What are you smiling about? 182 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:19,870 It's so great, Jackson. I mean, Pink can be hissing, and then I'll just whip out 183 00:11:19,870 --> 00:11:22,150 the toy, and she's playing. 184 00:11:22,730 --> 00:11:24,730 What? Yeah, it's pretty great. 185 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:25,970 Amazing. 186 00:11:26,110 --> 00:11:29,430 80 % of the time, she is a happy, content cat now. 187 00:11:29,650 --> 00:11:33,990 80%. 80%. Yeah. We've really been spending a lot more time here. 188 00:11:34,250 --> 00:11:40,310 And Amy has really been encouraging me to take your recommendation around not 189 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:43,870 being so anxious around her. And it really makes a difference. 190 00:11:44,130 --> 00:11:45,130 That's huge. 191 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:51,750 Yeah. 80 % better in a couple of weeks. I mean, I can show you the scars that 192 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:54,070 prove that this is one of the meanest cats I'd ever met. 193 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:55,410 Amazing. 194 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:59,540 Um, I'm sure there's more information that you guys gave me on my homework 195 00:11:59,540 --> 00:12:02,180 video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd love to watch it. 196 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,780 Whoa, look at that. Did you see him do a back flip? Yeah. 197 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,580 So we basically have Pink playing around the living room. That's beautiful. 198 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,560 But then, at the end of this, Katie just puts her hand out to Pink's paw, and 199 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:16,840 Pink just does this. 200 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,560 I mean, come on. 201 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:21,200 Oh, my God, that's so sweet. 202 00:12:23,950 --> 00:12:25,190 She just tagged me. 203 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:30,190 One thing I did not like on video homework was that I still saw Pink 204 00:12:30,190 --> 00:12:36,630 out. So, great footage. I mean, good and bad. We've got 80 % great, 205 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:41,210 but we've got 20 % of work to do at this point. So we really should get to it. 206 00:12:41,290 --> 00:12:44,010 Now, obviously, you brought Twiggles over. 207 00:12:44,290 --> 00:12:44,989 You did. 208 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:46,610 Okay, so how long has this been going on? 209 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:52,570 Oh, just today. He doesn't care about nothing. Look at how relaxed he is. 210 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,800 We could not ask for a better cat to meet Pink because he's so chill. 211 00:12:58,220 --> 00:13:01,080 Twinkles is Amy's cat, and I love his calm demeanor. 212 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,400 We're going to need that if we have any hope of Amy and Katie moving in 213 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,740 together. We have to start introducing these two cats, and that is my main goal 214 00:13:08,740 --> 00:13:09,359 for today. 215 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,200 So what we're going to be doing today is we're going to start the introduction 216 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:19,600 process between the two of them. I am nervous about Pink attacking my little 217 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,600 boy. 218 00:13:21,650 --> 00:13:22,650 Let's do this. 219 00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:25,870 I want to push it, and of course that's what I always want to do. We're going to 220 00:13:25,870 --> 00:13:29,210 use feeding on opposite sides of the door. So we're going to have Katie with 221 00:13:29,210 --> 00:13:32,510 Pink on one side of the door. We're going to have Amy with her cat Twiggles 222 00:13:32,510 --> 00:13:36,350 the other side. And we're going to see how far we can push that challenge line 223 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:39,750 to the door, having these cats eat but not hiss or growl. 224 00:13:40,410 --> 00:13:43,870 Katie, start inching that food close to the door. We're going to start feeding 225 00:13:43,870 --> 00:13:44,930 Twiggles on this side, okay? 226 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:46,350 Okay, cool. 227 00:13:46,370 --> 00:13:47,390 Hey, buddy, come here. 228 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:48,990 You want food, son? 229 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:51,310 Hey. 230 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,260 I'm trying to make a positive association. 231 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:59,940 Right. Every time they smell food, they smell each other. So basically they're 232 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:01,420 saying you equal food equal good. 233 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:04,280 She knows that Twiggles is there. 234 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,980 Okay, so we got a hit. Yeah. 235 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,280 Does it freak you out? 236 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Well, it just makes me, I don't want him to hit, I don't want to, I don't like 237 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,220 seeing him scared. I've never seen him get. 238 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,180 This is saying hello in no uncertain terms. It's just not a friendly hello. 239 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,640 When Pink hit. 240 00:14:22,190 --> 00:14:24,750 Twiggles took off, and Amy just came unglued. 241 00:14:24,970 --> 00:14:30,610 So now the good part about this is we've just established their respective 242 00:14:30,610 --> 00:14:34,390 challenge line. So what I'm going to do is bring his food back a little bit. 243 00:14:34,530 --> 00:14:37,770 This is how far back you go. He comes up, he starts eating. No problem. 244 00:14:38,090 --> 00:14:40,070 She's got to be able to do the same thing on the other side. 245 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:43,150 Pinky, come back. 246 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:45,730 All right, Katie, we good in there? 247 00:14:46,190 --> 00:14:49,290 She realized that Twiggles was there, and she growled and backed away. 248 00:14:51,589 --> 00:14:55,510 Pink. Then pull the plate back a little bit. We found that line. Pull it back. 249 00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:09,410 She's eating. 250 00:15:12,110 --> 00:15:16,050 We got both cats to eat on opposite side. We found where each one of their 251 00:15:16,050 --> 00:15:20,030 challenge line was, so we can step that up over the next couple of weeks, but 252 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:21,030 got to do it slowly. 253 00:15:21,370 --> 00:15:22,530 So let me give you guys some homework. 254 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:25,990 We're going to really ritualize this feeding exercise. 255 00:15:26,490 --> 00:15:28,850 It has to happen every day and it has to happen without fail. 256 00:15:29,130 --> 00:15:34,770 Because, like I said before, I smell you, I smell food. You equal good, you 257 00:15:34,770 --> 00:15:38,410 know? The second step is we're going to deal with the concept of sight swapping. 258 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,200 When I say site swap, that means nobody lives in here, nobody lives in there. So 259 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,580 the way you swap is on different days, Twiggles goes in there, Ping comes out 260 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:50,920 here, or, you know, the other way around. We're going to do site swapping 261 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,640 that nobody owns too much piece of land at one given time. 262 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:58,640 Cats can't see each other, they can smell each other. This is how cats 263 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,620 communicate, with scent, not by talking. 264 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,620 One other thing, if we're going to do... 265 00:16:05,210 --> 00:16:08,070 Mealtime, sight swapping, that means the Twiggles live here. 266 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:12,450 What's your reservation about it? 267 00:16:14,630 --> 00:16:21,110 That Twiggles will start having bad behavior 268 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:22,930 because of pink. 269 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:25,510 This couldn't be more of a crucial time. 270 00:16:25,730 --> 00:16:28,210 Before, we were just trying to keep the ship from sinking. 271 00:16:28,430 --> 00:16:29,950 Now we want it to sail. 272 00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:34,880 I'm really sort of waiting with bated breath to see if, you know, we can make 273 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,499 this work. 274 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:38,200 All right. Bye, guys. Have a good night. Yeah, you too. 275 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,640 We've made a lot of progress with Pink, but I know what Pink is capable of. I've 276 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,120 seen her aggression firsthand, and my biggest fear is that Twiggles is going 277 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:48,759 get hurt. 278 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,680 And I don't want that to happen to my little angel. 279 00:16:53,820 --> 00:16:55,620 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 280 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Cats walk with their weight on the soles of their feet. 281 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,640 True or false? 282 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:02,760 Find out after the break. 283 00:17:12,859 --> 00:17:13,859 True or false? 284 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,819 Cats walk with their weight on the soles of their feet. And the answer is false. 285 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Cats are digitigrade mammals, which means that they walk on their toes, 286 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,619 humans, who place the bulk of their weight on the bottom of their foot. 287 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,200 I'm here for my final visit with Katie and Amy and Katie's cat, Pink. The last 288 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,300 time I was here, Pink had gotten a whole lot better. When I say a whole lot 289 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:40,440 better, I didn't bleed. 290 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,660 But we still had the hardest part ahead of us, which was introducing Pink to 291 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:50,700 Amy's cat, Twiggles. Now hopefully the feeding exercises are going really well 292 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:53,360 because I really want these guys to finally move in together. 293 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Jackson! What's up, Katie? 294 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,820 Good to see you. Good to see you. 295 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:03,650 So, moving. 296 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:05,050 Yeah. 297 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:07,310 Very cool. We're going forward. 298 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:08,890 Ten days. Ten days. 299 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:12,530 Ten days, which means everything's going great here. 300 00:18:12,730 --> 00:18:16,110 Things are going great. We are very excited. We're very confident. 301 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:17,370 Wow. 302 00:18:17,670 --> 00:18:18,970 How do you feel? 303 00:18:19,930 --> 00:18:22,310 Your energy is now with Pink. Great. 304 00:18:22,550 --> 00:18:25,950 She's not exhibiting aggressive behaviors almost ever. 305 00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:29,210 We know how to calm her down when she gets upset. 306 00:18:30,730 --> 00:18:32,250 That's amazing, guys. 307 00:18:32,530 --> 00:18:37,770 I think that the change in Pink has really been due to the homework 308 00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:38,910 that Jackson gave us. 309 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:43,370 Sight swapping has definitely made a difference, and also playing with her 310 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:46,210 being here more. She's a whole new cat. 311 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,920 All right, well, it sounds like fantastic stuff has been going on. Of 312 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,080 want to see what you guys have been up to, so let's watch your video homework. 313 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:59,440 Sight swapping is going really well. We've got twiggles on one side of the 314 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,380 we've got pink on the other side of the door, and they're getting to know each 315 00:19:02,380 --> 00:19:04,940 other's smell without the threat of visual contact. 316 00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:06,460 Oh, 317 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,960 that sounds cute. 318 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:11,340 That's amazing. 319 00:19:12,030 --> 00:19:16,270 Now, there's this moment where Amy picks up Pink and holds her to her chest. 320 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:21,530 Now, this is a cat who a few weeks ago wanted to beat up Katie, Amy, and me. 321 00:19:21,630 --> 00:19:23,150 That's an amazing turnaround. 322 00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:25,050 Very, very nice. Right? 323 00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:29,970 And, of course, I got to see this wonderful piece, which was the two cats 324 00:19:29,970 --> 00:19:32,610 on either side of the door, and I mean close. 325 00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:34,250 Isn't that great? 326 00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:39,590 That is great. Yeah. We haven't opened the door yet, so Twiggles and Pink. 327 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:41,470 Still haven't met one. 328 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:45,970 All right, so my goal today is that we take your progress and build on it. 329 00:19:46,590 --> 00:19:47,730 We're going to open that door. 330 00:19:49,030 --> 00:19:51,470 That's the big first step that we have to get through. Okay? 331 00:19:52,550 --> 00:19:57,390 Okay. This is really make or break time because we're moving and we really need 332 00:19:57,390 --> 00:19:58,390 them to be able to get along. 333 00:19:58,890 --> 00:20:00,070 Katie, go on in with Pink. 334 00:20:00,630 --> 00:20:02,390 Amy, stay out here with Twiggles and me. 335 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:05,330 I'm just hoping that Pink doesn't kill Twiggles. 336 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,300 Katie, how's it going in there? I'm trying to get her over to the door to 337 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:11,300 Okay. 338 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:16,560 The great thing is the Twiggles is just about the food right now. 339 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Thanks for eating. 340 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,880 We start the feeding on either side of the door. It looked like it was going 341 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,360 great, so it's time to open that door. 342 00:20:58,830 --> 00:20:59,830 There you go. 343 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:04,430 Yes. Good job. 344 00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:06,030 Do you want? 345 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:07,230 Yeah. 346 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:13,230 Really pretty cool. 347 00:21:13,450 --> 00:21:18,390 Yeah. It made me feel really great watching them eat. It made me feel like 348 00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:19,390 can make this work. 349 00:21:19,690 --> 00:21:22,530 Okay, now we do want to end this on a high note. Let's go ahead and shut the 350 00:21:22,530 --> 00:21:23,830 door. That's it. 351 00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:27,130 Okay. 352 00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:28,350 These guys are ready. 353 00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:30,290 Yeah, yeah. They can be around one another. 354 00:21:30,530 --> 00:21:34,630 Thank you so, so, so much, because there's no way that we would be able to 355 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:36,230 our family without your help. 356 00:21:36,510 --> 00:21:41,430 Any time. A few weeks ago, we were not sure if we could all move in together, 357 00:21:41,570 --> 00:21:47,030 and now we really believe that Pink can be integrated into our lives and 358 00:21:47,030 --> 00:21:48,030 Twiggle's lives. 359 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:52,930 I mean, it is literally like we have a new cat living with us. 360 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:56,150 This is such a happy ending for us. We just can't think. 361 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,199 Jack Smith. 362 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,220 Thank you, Jackson. 363 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,440 Okay, you're welcome. Bye, you're a rock star. 364 00:22:26,730 --> 00:22:30,450 I'm about to meet John and Michelle about their cat Zoe, who over the past 365 00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:36,450 has become so unpredictably and aggressively violent that he almost 366 00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:37,850 wedding day. That's bad. 367 00:22:38,590 --> 00:22:42,490 I'm going to make sure that these guys have some more anniversaries to 368 00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:43,490 celebrate. 369 00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:47,329 I'm Michelle. 370 00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:48,330 And I'm John. 371 00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:50,870 We just got married. We've been together for about 10 years now. 372 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:56,350 Zoe's a boy, even though his name is a girl's name. We adopted him when he was 373 00:22:56,350 --> 00:22:59,350 five months or so. Zoe was actually our first cat. 374 00:22:59,690 --> 00:23:01,290 I don't really know that much about cats. 375 00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:05,750 Last year, like when I started planning the wedding, is when the vicious attack 376 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:06,750 started. 377 00:23:10,030 --> 00:23:14,770 Ever since he was a kitten, he's been a little bit more agitated around me, 378 00:23:14,850 --> 00:23:15,850 specifically. 379 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,480 It's pretty terrifying. 380 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:24,840 The worst incident with Zoe was three days before our wedding. 381 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,240 I was just doing my work, and he just turned around and, like, attacked my 382 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,340 He sunk his teeth in and his nails and, like, scratched down. 383 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,040 She had a sleeveless dress, too, so the scratches were very visible. Even the 384 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,200 photographers had to do some photo adjustments. 385 00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:43,750 He ruined our wedding, and that's when I was really broken down, and I was 386 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:47,270 suggesting that we find another home for him. I've never seen that side of him. 387 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:48,990 He's never been vicious to me. 388 00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:52,790 It's definitely hard for me to picture him being like that, you know? 389 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:56,870 It's kind of frustrating because it's only happened to me before, and no one 390 00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:57,870 else has seen it. 391 00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:03,550 I don't know when he's going to attack next. 392 00:24:03,850 --> 00:24:06,630 I can't live with that kind of uncertainty and that kind of anxiety 393 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:10,990 around in my own house. I think Zoe's shown a lot of love, and it's very hard 394 00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:14,130 get rid of something that you've had for so long, someone that's been a good 395 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:15,450 companion over the years. 396 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:19,950 This is the last straw for me. So if Zoe's problems can't be fixed, then 397 00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:21,310 have no choice but to give him away. 398 00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:28,870 I'm going in right now for my first visit with John and Michelle about their 399 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:29,870 cat, Zoe. 400 00:24:30,450 --> 00:24:32,310 Michelle is getting attacked by Zoe. 401 00:24:32,850 --> 00:24:35,810 Hey, how's it going? John? Yeah, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 402 00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:39,050 Hi. They're newlyweds and they're fighting about this. I want to see if I 403 00:24:39,050 --> 00:24:40,330 broker some peace about the situation. 404 00:24:40,810 --> 00:24:42,770 Thanks for having me over today. Yeah, thanks for coming. 405 00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:44,110 Of course, of course. 406 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:45,890 So tell me about Zoe a little bit. 407 00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:48,950 So Zoe is about six and a half years old. 408 00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:51,830 We got married eight months ago. 409 00:24:52,050 --> 00:24:56,140 Okay. And it was around that time, like, where he started viciously attacking 410 00:24:56,140 --> 00:25:00,640 me. All of a sudden, he'll, like, lunge at me and, you know, sink his teeth into 411 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,379 my skin. 412 00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:04,840 He'll bite. Yeah, and his claws, too. And then, like, kind of hang on there. 413 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,020 I have to, like, whip him off of me. Wow. 414 00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:14,360 My absolute worst has been, like, three days before our wedding when he attacked 415 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:18,280 me. And I had, like, gashes, you know, up and down my arm that were visible in 416 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,940 the wedding pictures. And it, like, tore me up, like, emotionally, too. 417 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,500 Michelle tells me that one of the worst attacks she's ever gotten from Zoe 418 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:29,300 happened three days before her wedding. And she's not over it emotionally. She's 419 00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:33,220 not over it in terms of the resentment that she feels for her cat. And she 420 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:34,220 bears the scars. 421 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,400 How often does that happen? 422 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,560 It's happened about, like, four times, like, documented. Like, I've documented 423 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,820 it with animal services. 424 00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:43,740 You filed a report for the animal services? 425 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:48,360 I was dumbfounded. I mean, what makes you go to that extreme? 426 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,280 I would never call animal control on my own animal. 427 00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:53,620 Why would you do that? 428 00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:56,580 It's always happened when I'm alone and John's not here. 429 00:25:56,820 --> 00:26:00,500 And it's a little bit frustrating because I think that some people don't 430 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,640 me. I've never really seen Zoe attack Michelle with those really vicious 431 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,180 attacks. These are like, you know, full -on attack, attack. 432 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,340 Michelle has called animal services four separate times because of the attacks 433 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:16,940 on her. Zoe has been placed on home -based quarantine because of the bites. 434 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:20,460 there's only so many times that can happen. At some point, animal services 435 00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:23,080 take Zoe away if they think he presents a danger. 436 00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:27,620 If you're going to go to the forest to call animal control, you've had it. 437 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,180 Yeah, it's like the last straw. 438 00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:30,380 For both of you. 439 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,720 More so for her, like, I mean, I don't want to give him away. He's never 440 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,800 viciously attacked me before. Ever? 441 00:26:38,459 --> 00:26:40,980 No, not ever. You've never gotten what she's gotten ever? 442 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:42,180 No. Wow. 443 00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:45,840 Unfortunately for Michelle, she works from home, which means she's going to 444 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,580 the brunt of most of these attacks. But at the same time, she's got to have 445 00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:53,480 something going on with this cat to make Zoe act this way. You know the reality. 446 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:58,900 You've talked to each other about it. So you're faced with a fix or... Get rid 447 00:26:58,900 --> 00:26:59,900 of him. 448 00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:06,560 Okay. Lots of information, lots of stuff to digest, so let's start taking a walk 449 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,960 around, okay? Basically, she's over it. If she gets attacked one more time, 450 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,820 Kat's gone. In fact, she'd be happier if Zoe was already gone. If we don't have 451 00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:17,400 Michelle's buy -in, I'll never be able to solve this case. 452 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,260 Okay, right here, we've got the toy basket, okay? 453 00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:26,320 As we start looking around the home, I notice a basket full of very sad 454 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,500 toys. I'm just going to jump to Dad here for a second. 455 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,220 He doesn't play with all of them. I'm going to start holding toys, and you 456 00:27:33,220 --> 00:27:34,220 me. 457 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:35,460 This? No. 458 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,620 This? No. 459 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,520 What is that? 460 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,220 It broke off of this one. 461 00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:46,280 So I would say no to this just in principle there. Does he play with any 462 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,900 them? His favorites are like this one. 463 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,440 He must know what mine are. 464 00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:51,300 These are his two favorite ones. 465 00:27:51,620 --> 00:27:55,840 Out of this entire box, we have got two kind of sad -looking toys. 466 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,460 That spells boredom to me. 467 00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:01,440 I can give you homework right now. 468 00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:02,820 Get some toys. 469 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,380 Get some toys to wear him out with. Wear him down. 470 00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:11,130 Okay. You've got to get that energy level out of him, the same energy that 471 00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:15,350 given you. Here's what I want. John, can you grab Zoe for me? I want to see how 472 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:17,110 he is in this environment, in this area. 473 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:18,430 Hello, mister. 474 00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:20,870 Wow, he's a big boy. 475 00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:22,069 This is Zoe. 476 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:24,250 Okay, so Michelle, tell me something. 477 00:28:24,550 --> 00:28:29,730 How would you normally handle Zoe at this point? I usually get my ski gloves 478 00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:31,790 You get ski gloves? 479 00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:35,570 Go ahead and get them. Okay. 480 00:28:36,709 --> 00:28:41,050 As soon as somebody starts putting on ski gloves to handle their cat, I know 481 00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:42,110 that we got a big problem. 482 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:43,790 Every time you handle him, you do this? 483 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:47,210 The times I don't want to get bitten, then I put it on him. Okay, well, let me 484 00:28:47,210 --> 00:28:50,810 see how you would do what you do. I wanted to know, at what point does he 485 00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:55,530 where he's going to snap? And I hate to do it to Michelle, but I really wanted 486 00:28:55,530 --> 00:28:58,370 to see her fear level and Zoe's response. 487 00:28:58,750 --> 00:28:59,790 Okay. Okay? 488 00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:01,250 Ooh. 489 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:03,590 Oh, yeah, he kind of means business. Yeah. 490 00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:06,450 This is not good. 491 00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:11,230 Michelle got incredibly tense. You transmit that energy to a cat, and then 492 00:29:11,230 --> 00:29:12,670 that'll make them strike even more. 493 00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:15,790 Come on. 494 00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:21,150 What that tells me is we're not dealing with Jekyll and Hyde here. We're dealing 495 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:23,030 with a cat who's responding to stimuli. 496 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:27,350 She picked him up, and he was all over the place, and he looked uncomfortable, 497 00:29:27,550 --> 00:29:29,830 and that's when he's going to lash out the most. 498 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,460 And it also highlights how much of your body he takes up. 499 00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:39,700 Do you know? I mean, he really swallows you. 500 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Yeah, I'm scared. 501 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,280 It's terrifying going up against him because I get all, you know, bit up and 502 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,620 scratched. Yeah, I mean, I get a little scared for her when she's handling him. 503 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,640 That's the validation you've been looking for. 504 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,720 John was totally horrified. He's never seen it before. He's never been around 505 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:00,540 any of these attacks. Today, John got it. He got the fact that this 4 '11 506 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:05,580 was being hit hard by a cat that was almost bigger than her entire torso. 507 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,940 Believe me, he got it. As always, I think it's really important for me to 508 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,820 some alone time with the cat, and I wanted to spend that time with Zoe. 509 00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,720 I asked John where he was, and Zoe was in their bedroom, so that's where I 510 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:20,760 I've got to see if the behaviors that he's exhibiting, for the most part, are 511 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,040 predictable. Hi. 512 00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:23,580 Want to hang out? 513 00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,260 Not like you're not communicating. 514 00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:31,320 You're doing that pretty loud and clear. 515 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,160 And that, pretty loud and clear. 516 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,920 Thank you for the warning. 517 00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:39,520 Now, what if I approach you the way your mom does? 518 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520 What if I'm jumpy, like your mom is? 519 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,340 What? What? 520 00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:46,660 Okay. 521 00:30:46,910 --> 00:30:47,910 There it is. 522 00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:49,030 There it is. 523 00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:50,890 Ow! 524 00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:54,750 I get you, dude. I get you. 525 00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:59,970 Message received. 526 00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:05,030 What I'm finding is that he needs to be pushed and pushed pretty hard before he 527 00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:08,090 says, you know what, I've had it. I warned you enough times. Take that. 528 00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:11,590 Now, obviously, Michelle's missing some of those clues. 529 00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:17,270 All right. 530 00:31:17,410 --> 00:31:20,990 The way I'm going to break down the homework, I've got work for you, I've 531 00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:24,990 work for you, and of course I've got work for Zoe as well. The first thing, I 532 00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:28,270 want you to find what motivates him. Let me pull something out of here for a 533 00:31:28,270 --> 00:31:29,270 second. 534 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:32,190 This toy here, my little caterpillar guy. 535 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,080 I want you to find toys like this. When I say like this, I mean interactive. 536 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,940 You're on one side, he's on the other. And then basically what you're doing is 537 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:44,300 you're dictating the level of aerobic activity that he gets. 538 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,120 I want John and Michelle to have a very structured play regimen. Because Zoe's a 539 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,440 very overweight cat, I want John to play him like crazy, take the cat and wear 540 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,620 him down every day. 541 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Now, for Michelle, I want to see you start leading him around the house. 542 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,360 In fact... 543 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,880 setting up something like an exercise course for him. Because when he starts 544 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,180 follow you, respect you as the leader of this territory, I think things will 545 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:11,380 start looking a little differently. 546 00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:15,580 Michelle's homework's a little more difficult because the big theme here is 547 00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:19,960 repairing and rebonding with Zoe. And after all this time, that might be kind 548 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,720 tough. So she's got to re -engage. 549 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Last thing that I want you guys to do. 550 00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:29,410 is I'd like you to take the concept of that catchery. What I'd like you to do 551 00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:31,910 not get another catchery. I want you to build one. 552 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:37,930 I think it's not only a way to help let go of the resentments, but it's also an 553 00:32:37,930 --> 00:32:43,110 activity that you two can bond over and also create a new bond with Zoe, okay? 554 00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:47,910 You guys all, all three of you, deserve this shot. And let's make this happen, 555 00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:49,430 okay? Thank you very much. 556 00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:54,120 The hardest challenge would be the letting go of resentment that I have for 557 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:59,120 I don't want to get rid of Zoe. But the reality is that Zoe could be euthanized 558 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,380 if this behavior continues. 559 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,220 I'm going in right now for my second visit with John and Michelle about their 560 00:33:18,220 --> 00:33:18,939 cat, Zoe. 561 00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:22,340 Now, the first time I was here, I met a cat who was really aggressive, but only 562 00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:23,760 towards one person, Michelle. 563 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:31,060 Michelle wants to get rid of Zoe. John, on the other hand, loves 564 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:32,460 Zoe and doesn't want to see him go. 565 00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:36,060 So I'm hoping that this time around that Michelle is letting go of her 566 00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:39,940 resentments because if she forms the bond, the energy will be a lot more calm 567 00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:41,280 and there will be less attack. 568 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:43,300 So, guys. 569 00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:44,660 How's things going? 570 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,700 Pretty good. What's pretty good? 571 00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:48,460 Let's do an arm check. 572 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,300 Yeah, no new ones, no new scars. You guys are both clean, man. 573 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:55,440 Seriously, that's huge. 574 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Yeah. The last time I was here, I gave you specific instructions that were 575 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,380 different for each one of you. 576 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:06,660 For Michelle, your task was structured leadership, and for you, John, it was 577 00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:07,660 about structured exhaustion. 578 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,880 Are you guys adhering to those roles? 579 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,120 When I tried to... 580 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,139 you know, get something and have him follow me. He doesn't really follow 581 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,520 I'm having trouble with that. What about the exhaustion part? 582 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,900 Sometimes it's pretty hard to get him to follow you for a long period of time. 583 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,300 And then, you know, he'd just get, he'll walk away and just get disinterested. 584 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,000 Okay. So we really, we haven't found in the toy world, we haven't found the 585 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,440 thing that goes jackpot to him, right? You got to find that. That's really 586 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,440 important for him. Yeah. 587 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,900 Now, what I really want to do is go over your video homework with you. 588 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:41,940 What we got to see was Zoe playing with both Michelle and John. 589 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,020 Not that it was great play, because it really wasn't. I mean, you're not going 590 00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:49,679 to get anywhere with this. I mean, what cat is going to respond to this? 591 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Yeah, 592 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:52,380 good job. 593 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,420 No wonder Zoe wasn't invested. 594 00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,530 I also got to see that new cat condo that I assigned them to build. It was 595 00:35:00,530 --> 00:35:04,550 something that they had to do together. They both had to think about what Zoe 596 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:08,510 wanted. I just got some great ideas just from watching your videos. That means 597 00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:12,510 you recorded some great stuff for me. Now, let's take a look around and see 598 00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:13,650 you guys have done, okay? All right. 599 00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:18,270 Now, let's start here because, first of all, I noticed this when I walked in. 600 00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:22,590 Let's move this, and when I move it, you'll start seeing the method to the 601 00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:23,590 measures. 602 00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:26,960 So this is where I want it to be, okay? 603 00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:28,558 Take a look. 604 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,560 You understand where I'm going? 605 00:35:29,780 --> 00:35:33,160 I think it's a place where he can jump down safely instead of jumping all the 606 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,560 way to the floor if he doesn't have a TV. 607 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,860 For a cat of his size with no real firm landing area, it scared me. I didn't 608 00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:40,860 like it one little bit. 609 00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:44,330 It is really important to fill that empty space with something sturdy. 610 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:48,130 This is why we were working on leading him around. This is where it comes in. 611 00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:52,090 For you, Michelle, this is going to become our leadership course, right? Cat 612 00:35:52,090 --> 00:35:53,290 course. Exactly. 613 00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:57,450 I mean, I worry for Michelle because we don't know when he'll next attack. It's 614 00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:00,610 going to take a lot of work, but this is what we came here to do. Now, I want 615 00:36:00,610 --> 00:36:03,990 one of you guys to go grab the wet food that he's totally into these days, okay? 616 00:36:04,170 --> 00:36:07,550 Okay. In the meantime, this is a feeding rod. 617 00:36:08,110 --> 00:36:11,910 I love it because basically you can feed him just like a regular spoon here. You 618 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:16,290 can also stretch it out. The retractable feeding rod is pretty simple. It gives 619 00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:20,610 you distance between you and a potentially aggressive cat. That's great 620 00:36:20,610 --> 00:36:24,650 you're presenting something really nice to them in a safe way. And this is the 621 00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:28,030 food that you've been feeding, right? Yep. So here's how we're going to work 622 00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:32,030 this. I want you to get him to start moving, okay? 623 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,840 The leadership course is going to be me leading Zoe around so that he respects 624 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,660 me. Start moving towards that spoon. 625 00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:41,060 With this? 626 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,640 With food? 627 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:49,180 The key to success with the retractable feeding rod is that you've got to find 628 00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:53,640 that jackpot food. If he's not into the toys, he'll be into the food. 629 00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:55,600 Just inch it as he's eating. 630 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,340 Like he doesn't even notice it. 631 00:36:58,380 --> 00:36:59,820 I want to paw up there. 632 00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:03,960 I need you to be completely relaxed as you're doing this. With food? 633 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,540 Oh, you got him. You got him. 634 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,480 So it made me feel like a sense of accomplishment that I was able to lead 635 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,540 So basically, I want to see you the next time I get back here, to the point 636 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,340 where you're just comfortable enough just feeding him from a spoon, leading 637 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:24,880 around. Jackson's goal is for me to get it down to the size of a spoon. 638 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:29,060 Inching in a little bit more and a little bit more is scary, but I'm sure 639 00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:32,600 if we do it, like, gradually, not all at once, that it could work. Every cat 640 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,740 I've ever met has a jackpot trigger, right? We've got to find what that is in 641 00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:38,640 him and make sure we get him to follow us, all right? 642 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,300 The leadership course is something that I came up with to help Michelle become a 643 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,500 leader. I want her to have confidence while performing these leadership 644 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,900 All right, guys. 645 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,540 I would say a good majority of the big issues seem to be starting to resolve. 646 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:59,300 As we walked through today, I saw other challenges. 647 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,140 So let's start talking about some of the homework. 648 00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:05,200 The first thing is I need you to go shopping. 649 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:09,370 We don't have his attention where we need it to be, and I'm telling you, 650 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:13,670 cat has that button, and that's what you have to find. We're missing that 651 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:19,290 jackpot, both in toy and food. If we have that, then Zoe has a reason to 652 00:38:19,290 --> 00:38:23,370 things around the room, and he has a reason to get exhausted in the first 653 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:26,750 The energy will be a lot more calm, and there will be less attack. 654 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:32,710 John, we go for the exhaustion with you. Now, that's the toys. That's also the 655 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:34,690 physical investment from you. 656 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:40,120 For you, Michelle, it's more about getting him moving around the course 657 00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:44,140 And that's done with the food jackpot. Because again, what I'd really like to 658 00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:47,240 see by the next time I come back here is that boy going around. 659 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,740 No pausing, no nothing. We're around the homestretch right now. 660 00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:54,860 There is a lot of work to be done, but that's what I'm here for. All right, 661 00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:58,860 guys, cool. I think we have a lot of work cut out for us before the next 662 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,380 I'm still a little bit scared of him, and if Zoe doesn't get fixed by this 663 00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:04,880 process, then, like, he's gone. 664 00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:09,130 I'm here for my final visit with John and Michelle and their cat Zoe. 665 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:13,850 Now, Zoe was such an aggressive cat that Michelle had called animal services on 666 00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:18,230 her own cat numerous times. Since then, the homework has revolved around getting 667 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:22,430 Michelle to a certain leadership, getting John to be in charge of 668 00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:25,990 Zoe. On their video homework, the first thing I got to see was that they brought 669 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:30,830 in... Treats. We were looking for that jackpot treat that Zoe would just go 670 00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:35,810 around the room for. I got to see Michelle using the retractable food rod 671 00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:39,390 the way out with the wet food. It worked perfectly. It was a really important 672 00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:43,710 thing for us to get this cat moving through the house and also to get 673 00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:46,050 taking charge of that whole exercise. 674 00:39:46,610 --> 00:39:47,750 River and chicken. 675 00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:52,370 I'm hoping today that I'm going to go in and see a cat that's grounded and calm 676 00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:55,890 and a little exhausted, and that way we have a cat who's going to have a forever 677 00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:56,890 home. 678 00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:59,170 So, how's life with Kat? 679 00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:04,870 No calls to animal services. 680 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:06,730 Amen. 681 00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:08,670 Amen. We win. 682 00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:12,470 Wonderful, guys. Tell me about it. So, first of all, like, I've been doing the 683 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:14,290 leadership course with Zoe every day. 684 00:40:14,590 --> 00:40:17,930 Right. And I started out with a retractable spoon at the longest length, 685 00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:19,610 then now I'm just down to a regular spoon. 686 00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:21,250 No more ski gloves. 687 00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:22,169 Yeah, no. 688 00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:25,070 I feel, you know, confident and safe around him. High -five moment. 689 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:27,710 Such a high -five moment. That's beautiful. 690 00:40:28,170 --> 00:40:31,830 I'm just proud of Michelle for growing as a person, and it's huge. 691 00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:35,250 Yeah, John's been a big help, too. Like I said, before I felt like I was on my 692 00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:39,450 own, like just me battling him and Zoe, you know, but now it feels like he's on 693 00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:40,750 my side. Oh, yeah. 694 00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:44,570 Oh, yeah. Well, I'd love to see what you guys have been doing with your 695 00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:46,350 homework, so get up and take a look. 696 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,940 As far as I'm concerned, one of the last things I really need to see is Michelle 697 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:53,820 leading Zoe around the leadership course, and that's because I want to see 698 00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:58,880 she is still grounded and exerting just a calm authority with him. So I asked 699 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,620 John to get Zoe, and then I sent Michelle off to the kitchen to grab some 700 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:05,500 for Zoe, and I had her start the leadership course. 701 00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:06,740 Zoe. 702 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,040 Deidre, come here. 703 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,560 Good, just give it to him right there. 704 00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,700 Let's get that motor going. No, no, no, just let him eat. 705 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,920 Good, that's fine. 706 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,400 Very nice. 707 00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:31,220 So far, so good. We have got Zoe playing follow the leader with Michelle. 708 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,620 Okay, you know what to do next. 709 00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:33,859 Come right here. 710 00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:37,040 Now, of course, Zoe does what he's done all the way along, which is he jumps on 711 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,020 the floor first and then up to John's desk. 712 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:40,420 Well, that was a quick one. 713 00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:43,160 Okay, so he went floor, up on the desk. 714 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,560 This is getting exciting. 715 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,460 Oh, and tree. 716 00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:50,120 He loves the tree. This is easy. 717 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,760 Up on the dresser. 718 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,740 He's totally ready now, the big moment. 719 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,420 If we could, please. 720 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,700 Yes. Good. Leave him up. Just keep working with him. 721 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,120 Oh, yeah. 722 00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:05,760 There we go. Keep him going. 723 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,600 Come on, buddy. All four paws. 724 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,140 All four paws. 725 00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:10,850 All four paws. 726 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:11,928 There we go. 727 00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:13,030 Very, very nice. 728 00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:14,890 Good boy. So yummy. 729 00:42:15,970 --> 00:42:21,050 This jump means we get everything that we want. I'm watching this catch's move 730 00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:25,450 with just such grace towards that doorway. Michelle's leading him 731 00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:26,650 Good boy, Joy. 732 00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:30,150 And I'm starting to think that that's as far as we're going to get. 733 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:31,730 Right here. 734 00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:33,710 We can get this jump. We got it done. 735 00:42:34,030 --> 00:42:35,030 Right here. 736 00:42:36,070 --> 00:42:37,070 Right here. 737 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,260 And there he... Bang! 738 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,340 Yay! I was just blown away. 739 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:49,280 This isn't just about a cat jumping from a dresser to an entertainment center. 740 00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:51,380 This is a demonstration of leadership. 741 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,580 That was really important because Michelle's leadership diminishes the 742 00:42:55,580 --> 00:42:57,920 of attack from Zoe. Beautiful job. 743 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,198 Thank you. 744 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,198 Good work. 745 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,180 I'm definitely proud of Michelle and just so happy to see Michelle so 746 00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,980 comfortable being, you know, face -to -face with Zoe when she had to wear ski 747 00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:09,260 gloves to handle him just a little while ago. 748 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,000 Honestly, that jump in my presence, beautiful. 749 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:20,600 I started to tell her how amazing that was. And before I could, she picked him 750 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,360 up and put him on the dresser. And she started petting the cat. And then she 751 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,360 kissed him. 752 00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:34,990 Are you kidding me? She just totally changed. She's become stronger. I can't 753 00:43:34,990 --> 00:43:36,690 I'm out of words right now. Right? 754 00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:37,930 No, me too. 755 00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:39,970 I'm done. I'm going home. 756 00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:44,670 This is good. Are you aware of the fact that, like, you couldn't even touch him 757 00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:45,670 a couple weeks ago? 758 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:48,790 I couldn't have done all this without you. They're all your tips and pointers. 759 00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:53,390 You're absolutely welcome. To see people be able to lose fear the way that you 760 00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:56,310 have is so inspirational. It really is. 761 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,100 Definitely a happy ending for all of us. We've set out what we've accomplished 762 00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,620 to do, you know, no more attacks. 763 00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:04,080 Zoe gets to stay in our home forever. 764 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,400 I'm happy that the relationship is not just like John and Zoe anymore, but now 765 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,860 it's like John, Zoe, and me. 63762

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