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Pink is very aggressive.
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She kind of comes after me like... We
just recently
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got engaged.
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But we can't live together because of
Pink.
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And it's either Pink or Amy if something
doesn't change.
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I'm afraid to be, like, in the home
alone with Zoe.
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Three days before our wedding, he just
turned around and, like, attacked my
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The scratches were very visible.
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I filed four reports with animal
services.
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I want the severity of it, like, known
and just documented.
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It was hard for me to accept that fact
because I know that he's not going to
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kill her. You know, like, I've never
seen that side of him. He's never been
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vicious to me.
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This is the last straw for me. So if
Zoe's problems can't be fixed, then
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have no choice but to give him away.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end. I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Sorry, I don't know.
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Cats have nine lives, but humans only
have one.
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Whoa!
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Hey, Pinky.
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I'm on my way over to see Katie and Amy
right now. These guys are completely in
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love. They're ready to move in together.
The problem is that Katie's cat, Pink,
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is a holy terror.
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This is not good.
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Now I'm going to make sure that this
love story has a happy end.
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I'm Katie.
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And I'm Amy, and we've been together
about five months now, and we just
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got engaged.
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We're so excited to be spending the rest
of our lives together, and the one
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thing that's standing in our way is my
cat, Pink.
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I adopted Pink eight years ago. At
first, things were pretty good, but
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started to get really bad after the
first year and a half of her life.
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Where are you guys?
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He's hiding.
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It's okay, Pink.
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She's very, very aggressive.
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She's coming after me, swiping, hissing.
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She kind of comes after me like...
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He and I spend most of our
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time at my house because of Pink.
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In terms of moving in with Amy, I'm not
only concerned about Amy's safety, I'm
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also concerned about the safety of her
cat, Twiggles.
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If something doesn't change, I could
have to rehome Pink.
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Pink, can you be nice to my girlfriend,
please?
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We are at a standstill right now, and
this is not going to work for me, so
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it's a little stressful.
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How are you? I'm good. Thank you so much
for being here. Of course.
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All right, guys.
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So, how goes it?
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So, Pink is my cat.
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Okay. She attacks me. She attacks Amy.
She attacks anyone who comes to the
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house. And as you're saying that, I'm
looking down, and I'm seeing... Is that
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today? Yeah, today.
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Oh, my God. The claw actually got caught
in it.
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So there was a claw piece stuck in
there.
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Man, that's pretty scary.
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Now, those are not little baby
scratches.
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Pink put some serious intent behind the
damage she did to Amy, and that's
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unacceptable. You're staying over at her
place all the time. Yeah. How old is
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Pink? She's eight. And how long have you
had her? I've had her since she was
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like six months old.
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Here's the thing. By the age of nine
weeks.
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Cats learn pretty much socially
everything they need. So whatever
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that age could have been traumatic. How
old was she the first time you were
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like, oh, what's going on here?
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It was probably pretty early on, like
maybe a year.
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You've been dealing with this for seven
years?
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Mm -hmm.
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I work for Found Animals Foundation, and
I know that taking on an animal, you
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have to be responsible for them for the
lifetime.
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I, you know, want to be that person for
Pink.
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I love Katie's commitment to Pink, but
at the same time, I can't imagine what
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it's doing to her and Amy's
relationship.
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It's one thing to subject yourself to a
violent cat, but it's a whole other
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ballgame when you factor in a loved one.
We want to move in together, and we
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don't know how to do that.
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I have a cat, Twiggle. He's a year old.
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And because of Pink, we don't know how
that's going to happen.
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Literally, the only thing that keeps you
from doing that is Pink. Yeah.
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Okay.
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I want to meet Pink. Okay. All right,
guys? Let's do it. Let's go do it.
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Okay. Hi, Pink.
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There she is. Yeah, Pink's not psyched.
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Hi, baby.
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Hi, baby.
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Pinky.
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I know.
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I want you to try presenting your hand
in a way that might not be threatening
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her. Okay.
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It's no
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fun for you.
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Okay.
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You're moving with some serious fear
right now. I know. Okay.
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Because?
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I have been attacked by her many times.
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But the only way that you're going to
get where you want to get with her is to
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release the trauma that you're in. She
is clearly terrified of her own cat, and
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that worries me a lot.
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Let's let me spend some time alone with
her. Okay.
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I'm going to go out there, get my guitar
case, and come back in. All right.
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Sounds good.
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Dealing with violent cats is part of my
job.
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What I do. Is it the part of my job that
I cherish the most? No. I don't want to
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go in there and have my butt handed to
me.
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But it's how I get information.
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I want to know what's predictable,
what's behavioral that I can work with,
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what's beyond my capabilities.
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Now, what if I put my hand in here?
What's going to happen?
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Hi, busy little one.
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Hi.
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It's okay, babe.
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Five inches.
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Four inches.
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Three inches.
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Can I touch you?
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I'm right here.
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There were... More than a few things
that concern me. First of all, blinking
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me, which is a good sign. But her tail
is going while she's licking her lips,
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which are a bad sign.
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Sending totally mixed signals all over
the place. Man, that was a good one.
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Now, let's start. See if I can get a
response out of you.
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It's not death.
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Oh, it's that.
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Don't be hissing at the food.
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Go ahead and hiss at it.
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I want you to have some food.
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Now.
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Can you have some food?
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Oh, good girl.
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Good girl, Pink.
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Good girl. You want some more?
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And your food.
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There you go.
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Now I'm going to touch the spoon while
you're eating.
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Being able to feed Pink so soon after
she decimated me, that's... Big,
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big news to me. Why?
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Because it shows you that she can learn
to trust. She can be a, quote, normal
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cat. And this is one of those places we
can start.
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Pink, I'm going to leave you now.
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You forgive me, I'll forgive you.
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How'd it go in there?
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It was interesting.
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When I saw what Pink did today, I was,
you know, concerned for him, but...
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What really popped up was twiggles
because if pink is like this, I'm sorry,
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it's not going to work.
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Let's start with your homework. The
first big thing is changing your energy
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around her. No more of the old nervous
and scared reactions that you had.
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The vibe of fear that Katie puts out
about herself and her relationship with
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Pink actually instigates aggression with
a cat like Pink. I also need you guys
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to spend more time here. Yeah.
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It's crucial.
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The less social she is, the more she's
going to be totally overstimulated by
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your presence, so she's going to bite
you. Got it. The other thing that I want
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you to do is start playing with this
cat. So let's break out this toy right
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here. We've got to get her energy out of
her, but in a safe way. So I presented
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them with one of my wand toys. It's
interactive, but it keeps you safe at
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same time. Her body and her mind have to
be grounded.
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And all the things I gave you today are
ways to get this started.
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I'm just really hoping that this works.
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You know, this is really our last hope.
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I'm going in for my second visit right
now with Katie and Amy and Katie's cat,
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Pink. Now, Katie and Amy want to move in
together. They simply can't because of
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Pink's violence.
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And the last time I was here, she beat
me senseless.
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She's a scary cat. I don't know what to
expect today.
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Jackson! Jamie!
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Hey! Come on in!
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How you doing? So good to see you.
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How you been? Great.
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I'm so glad that you're here.
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Well, thanks.
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You're kind of smiley. Yeah. What are
you smiling about?
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It's so great, Jackson. I mean, Pink can
be hissing, and then I'll just whip out
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the toy, and she's playing.
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What? Yeah, it's pretty great.
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Amazing.
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80 % of the time, she is a happy,
content cat now.
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80%. 80%. Yeah. We've really been
spending a lot more time here.
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And Amy has really been encouraging me
to take your recommendation around not
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being so anxious around her. And it
really makes a difference.
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That's huge.
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Yeah. 80 % better in a couple of weeks.
I mean, I can show you the scars that
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prove that this is one of the meanest
cats I'd ever met.
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Amazing.
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Um, I'm sure there's more information
that you guys gave me on my homework
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video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd love to
watch it.
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Whoa, look at that. Did you see him do a
back flip? Yeah.
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So we basically have Pink playing around
the living room. That's beautiful.
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But then, at the end of this, Katie just
puts her hand out to Pink's paw, and
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Pink just does this.
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I mean, come on.
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Oh, my God, that's so sweet.
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She just tagged me.
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One thing I did not like on video
homework was that I still saw Pink
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out. So, great footage. I mean, good and
bad. We've got 80 % great,
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but we've got 20 % of work to do at this
point. So we really should get to it.
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Now, obviously, you brought Twiggles
over.
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You did.
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Okay, so how long has this been going
on?
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Oh, just today. He doesn't care about
nothing. Look at how relaxed he is.
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We could not ask for a better cat to
meet Pink because he's so chill.
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Twinkles is Amy's cat, and I love his
calm demeanor.
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We're going to need that if we have any
hope of Amy and Katie moving in
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together. We have to start introducing
these two cats, and that is my main goal
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for today.
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So what we're going to be doing today is
we're going to start the introduction
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process between the two of them. I am
nervous about Pink attacking my little
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boy.
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Let's do this.
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I want to push it, and of course that's
what I always want to do. We're going to
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use feeding on opposite sides of the
door. So we're going to have Katie with
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Pink on one side of the door. We're
going to have Amy with her cat Twiggles
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the other side. And we're going to see
how far we can push that challenge line
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to the door, having these cats eat but
not hiss or growl.
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Katie, start inching that food close to
the door. We're going to start feeding
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Twiggles on this side, okay?
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Okay, cool.
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Hey, buddy, come here.
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You want food, son?
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Hey.
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I'm trying to make a positive
association.
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Right. Every time they smell food, they
smell each other. So basically they're
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saying you equal food equal good.
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She knows that Twiggles is there.
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Okay, so we got a hit. Yeah.
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Does it freak you out?
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Well, it just makes me, I don't want him
to hit, I don't want to, I don't like
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seeing him scared. I've never seen him
get.
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This is saying hello in no uncertain
terms. It's just not a friendly hello.
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When Pink hit.
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Twiggles took off, and Amy just came
unglued.
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So now the good part about this is we've
just established their respective
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challenge line. So what I'm going to do
is bring his food back a little bit.
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This is how far back you go. He comes
up, he starts eating. No problem.
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She's got to be able to do the same
thing on the other side.
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Pinky, come back.
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All right, Katie, we good in there?
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She realized that Twiggles was there,
and she growled and backed away.
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Pink. Then pull the plate back a little
bit. We found that line. Pull it back.
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She's eating.
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We got both cats to eat on opposite
side. We found where each one of their
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challenge line was, so we can step that
up over the next couple of weeks, but
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got to do it slowly.
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So let me give you guys some homework.
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We're going to really ritualize this
feeding exercise.
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It has to happen every day and it has to
happen without fail.
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Because, like I said before, I smell
you, I smell food. You equal good, you
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know? The second step is we're going to
deal with the concept of sight swapping.
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When I say site swap, that means nobody
lives in here, nobody lives in there. So
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the way you swap is on different days,
Twiggles goes in there, Ping comes out
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here, or, you know, the other way
around. We're going to do site swapping
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that nobody owns too much piece of land
at one given time.
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Cats can't see each other, they can
smell each other. This is how cats
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communicate, with scent, not by talking.
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One other thing, if we're going to do...
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Mealtime, sight swapping, that means the
Twiggles live here.
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What's your reservation about it?
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That Twiggles will start having bad
behavior
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because of pink.
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This couldn't be more of a crucial time.
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Before, we were just trying to keep the
ship from sinking.
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Now we want it to sail.
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I'm really sort of waiting with bated
breath to see if, you know, we can make
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this work.
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All right. Bye, guys. Have a good night.
Yeah, you too.
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We've made a lot of progress with Pink,
but I know what Pink is capable of. I've
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seen her aggression firsthand, and my
biggest fear is that Twiggles is going
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get hurt.
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And I don't want that to happen to my
little angel.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Cats walk with their weight on the soles
of their feet.
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True or false?
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Find out after the break.
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True or false?
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Cats walk with their weight on the soles
of their feet. And the answer is false.
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Cats are digitigrade mammals, which
means that they walk on their toes,
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humans, who place the bulk of their
weight on the bottom of their foot.
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I'm here for my final visit with Katie
and Amy and Katie's cat, Pink. The last
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time I was here, Pink had gotten a whole
lot better. When I say a whole lot
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better, I didn't bleed.
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But we still had the hardest part ahead
of us, which was introducing Pink to
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Amy's cat, Twiggles. Now hopefully the
feeding exercises are going really well
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because I really want these guys to
finally move in together.
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Jackson! What's up, Katie?
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Good to see you. Good to see you.
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So, moving.
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Yeah.
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Very cool. We're going forward.
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Ten days. Ten days.
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Ten days, which means everything's going
great here.
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Things are going great. We are very
excited. We're very confident.
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Wow.
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How do you feel?
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Your energy is now with Pink. Great.
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She's not exhibiting aggressive
behaviors almost ever.
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We know how to calm her down when she
gets upset.
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That's amazing, guys.
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I think that the change in Pink has
really been due to the homework
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that Jackson gave us.
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Sight swapping has definitely made a
difference, and also playing with her
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being here more. She's a whole new cat.
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All right, well, it sounds like
fantastic stuff has been going on. Of
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want to see what you guys have been up
to, so let's watch your video homework.
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Sight swapping is going really well.
We've got twiggles on one side of the
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we've got pink on the other side of the
door, and they're getting to know each
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other's smell without the threat of
visual contact.
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Oh,
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that sounds cute.
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That's amazing.
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Now, there's this moment where Amy picks
up Pink and holds her to her chest.
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Now, this is a cat who a few weeks ago
wanted to beat up Katie, Amy, and me.
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That's an amazing turnaround.
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Very, very nice. Right?
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And, of course, I got to see this
wonderful piece, which was the two cats
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on either side of the door, and I mean
close.
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Isn't that great?
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That is great. Yeah. We haven't opened
the door yet, so Twiggles and Pink.
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Still haven't met one.
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All right, so my goal today is that we
take your progress and build on it.
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We're going to open that door.
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That's the big first step that we have
to get through. Okay?
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Okay. This is really make or break time
because we're moving and we really need
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them to be able to get along.
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Katie, go on in with Pink.
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Amy, stay out here with Twiggles and me.
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I'm just hoping that Pink doesn't kill
Twiggles.
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Katie, how's it going in there? I'm
trying to get her over to the door to
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Okay.
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The great thing is the Twiggles is just
about the food right now.
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Thanks for eating.
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We start the feeding on either side of
the door. It looked like it was going
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great, so it's time to open that door.
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There you go.
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Yes. Good job.
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Do you want?
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Yeah.
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Really pretty cool.
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Yeah. It made me feel really great
watching them eat. It made me feel like
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can make this work.
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Okay, now we do want to end this on a
high note. Let's go ahead and shut the
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door. That's it.
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Okay.
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These guys are ready.
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Yeah, yeah. They can be around one
another.
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Thank you so, so, so much, because
there's no way that we would be able to
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our family without your help.
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Any time. A few weeks ago, we were not
sure if we could all move in together,
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and now we really believe that Pink can
be integrated into our lives and
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Twiggle's lives.
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I mean, it is literally like we have a
new cat living with us.
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This is such a happy ending for us. We
just can't think.
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Jack Smith.
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Thank you, Jackson.
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Okay, you're welcome. Bye, you're a rock
star.
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I'm about to meet John and Michelle
about their cat Zoe, who over the past
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has become so unpredictably and
aggressively violent that he almost
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wedding day. That's bad.
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I'm going to make sure that these guys
have some more anniversaries to
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celebrate.
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I'm Michelle.
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And I'm John.
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We just got married. We've been together
for about 10 years now.
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Zoe's a boy, even though his name is a
girl's name. We adopted him when he was
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five months or so. Zoe was actually our
first cat.
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I don't really know that much about
cats.
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Last year, like when I started planning
the wedding, is when the vicious attack
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started.
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Ever since he was a kitten, he's been a
little bit more agitated around me,
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specifically.
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It's pretty terrifying.
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The worst incident with Zoe was three
days before our wedding.
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I was just doing my work, and he just
turned around and, like, attacked my
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He sunk his teeth in and his nails and,
like, scratched down.
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She had a sleeveless dress, too, so the
scratches were very visible. Even the
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photographers had to do some photo
adjustments.
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He ruined our wedding, and that's when I
was really broken down, and I was
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suggesting that we find another home for
him. I've never seen that side of him.
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He's never been vicious to me.
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It's definitely hard for me to picture
him being like that, you know?
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It's kind of frustrating because it's
only happened to me before, and no one
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else has seen it.
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I don't know when he's going to attack
next.
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I can't live with that kind of
uncertainty and that kind of anxiety
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around in my own house. I think Zoe's
shown a lot of love, and it's very hard
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get rid of something that you've had for
so long, someone that's been a good
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companion over the years.
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This is the last straw for me. So if
Zoe's problems can't be fixed, then
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have no choice but to give him away.
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I'm going in right now for my first
visit with John and Michelle about their
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cat, Zoe.
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Michelle is getting attacked by Zoe.
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Hey, how's it going? John? Yeah, nice to
meet you. Nice to meet you.
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Hi. They're newlyweds and they're
fighting about this. I want to see if I
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broker some peace about the situation.
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Thanks for having me over today. Yeah,
thanks for coming.
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Of course, of course.
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So tell me about Zoe a little bit.
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So Zoe is about six and a half years
old.
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We got married eight months ago.
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Okay. And it was around that time, like,
where he started viciously attacking
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me. All of a sudden, he'll, like, lunge
at me and, you know, sink his teeth into
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my skin.
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He'll bite. Yeah, and his claws, too.
And then, like, kind of hang on there.
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I have to, like, whip him off of me.
Wow.
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My absolute worst has been, like, three
days before our wedding when he attacked
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me. And I had, like, gashes, you know,
up and down my arm that were visible in
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the wedding pictures. And it, like, tore
me up, like, emotionally, too.
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Michelle tells me that one of the worst
attacks she's ever gotten from Zoe
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happened three days before her wedding.
And she's not over it emotionally. She's
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not over it in terms of the resentment
that she feels for her cat. And she
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bears the scars.
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How often does that happen?
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It's happened about, like, four times,
like, documented. Like, I've documented
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it with animal services.
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You filed a report for the animal
services?
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I was dumbfounded. I mean, what makes
you go to that extreme?
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I would never call animal control on my
own animal.
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Why would you do that?
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It's always happened when I'm alone and
John's not here.
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And it's a little bit frustrating
because I think that some people don't
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me. I've never really seen Zoe attack
Michelle with those really vicious
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attacks. These are like, you know, full
-on attack, attack.
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Michelle has called animal services four
separate times because of the attacks
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on her. Zoe has been placed on home
-based quarantine because of the bites.
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there's only so many times that can
happen. At some point, animal services
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take Zoe away if they think he presents
a danger.
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If you're going to go to the forest to
call animal control, you've had it.
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Yeah, it's like the last straw.
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For both of you.
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More so for her, like, I mean, I don't
want to give him away. He's never
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viciously attacked me before. Ever?
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No, not ever. You've never gotten what
she's gotten ever?
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No. Wow.
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Unfortunately for Michelle, she works
from home, which means she's going to
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the brunt of most of these attacks. But
at the same time, she's got to have
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something going on with this cat to make
Zoe act this way. You know the reality.
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You've talked to each other about it. So
you're faced with a fix or... Get rid
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of him.
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Okay. Lots of information, lots of stuff
to digest, so let's start taking a walk
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around, okay? Basically, she's over it.
If she gets attacked one more time,
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Kat's gone. In fact, she'd be happier if
Zoe was already gone. If we don't have
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Michelle's buy -in, I'll never be able
to solve this case.
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Okay, right here, we've got the toy
basket, okay?
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As we start looking around the home, I
notice a basket full of very sad
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toys. I'm just going to jump to Dad here
for a second.
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He doesn't play with all of them. I'm
going to start holding toys, and you
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me.
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This? No.
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This? No.
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What is that?
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It broke off of this one.
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So I would say no to this just in
principle there. Does he play with any
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them? His favorites are like this one.
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He must know what mine are.
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These are his two favorite ones.
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Out of this entire box, we have got two
kind of sad -looking toys.
466
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,460
That spells boredom to me.
467
00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:01,440
I can give you homework right now.
468
00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:02,820
Get some toys.
469
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,380
Get some toys to wear him out with. Wear
him down.
470
00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:11,130
Okay. You've got to get that energy
level out of him, the same energy that
471
00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:15,350
given you. Here's what I want. John, can
you grab Zoe for me? I want to see how
472
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:17,110
he is in this environment, in this area.
473
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:18,430
Hello, mister.
474
00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:20,870
Wow, he's a big boy.
475
00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:22,069
This is Zoe.
476
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:24,250
Okay, so Michelle, tell me something.
477
00:28:24,550 --> 00:28:29,730
How would you normally handle Zoe at
this point? I usually get my ski gloves
478
00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:31,790
You get ski gloves?
479
00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:35,570
Go ahead and get them. Okay.
480
00:28:36,709 --> 00:28:41,050
As soon as somebody starts putting on
ski gloves to handle their cat, I know
481
00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:42,110
that we got a big problem.
482
00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:43,790
Every time you handle him, you do this?
483
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:47,210
The times I don't want to get bitten,
then I put it on him. Okay, well, let me
484
00:28:47,210 --> 00:28:50,810
see how you would do what you do. I
wanted to know, at what point does he
485
00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:55,530
where he's going to snap? And I hate to
do it to Michelle, but I really wanted
486
00:28:55,530 --> 00:28:58,370
to see her fear level and Zoe's
response.
487
00:28:58,750 --> 00:28:59,790
Okay. Okay?
488
00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:01,250
Ooh.
489
00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:03,590
Oh, yeah, he kind of means business.
Yeah.
490
00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:06,450
This is not good.
491
00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:11,230
Michelle got incredibly tense. You
transmit that energy to a cat, and then
492
00:29:11,230 --> 00:29:12,670
that'll make them strike even more.
493
00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:15,790
Come on.
494
00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:21,150
What that tells me is we're not dealing
with Jekyll and Hyde here. We're dealing
495
00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:23,030
with a cat who's responding to stimuli.
496
00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:27,350
She picked him up, and he was all over
the place, and he looked uncomfortable,
497
00:29:27,550 --> 00:29:29,830
and that's when he's going to lash out
the most.
498
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,460
And it also highlights how much of your
body he takes up.
499
00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:39,700
Do you know? I mean, he really swallows
you.
500
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Yeah, I'm scared.
501
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,280
It's terrifying going up against him
because I get all, you know, bit up and
502
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,620
scratched. Yeah, I mean, I get a little
scared for her when she's handling him.
503
00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,640
That's the validation you've been
looking for.
504
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,720
John was totally horrified. He's never
seen it before. He's never been around
505
00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:00,540
any of these attacks. Today, John got
it. He got the fact that this 4 '11
506
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:05,580
was being hit hard by a cat that was
almost bigger than her entire torso.
507
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,940
Believe me, he got it. As always, I
think it's really important for me to
508
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,820
some alone time with the cat, and I
wanted to spend that time with Zoe.
509
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,720
I asked John where he was, and Zoe was
in their bedroom, so that's where I
510
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:20,760
I've got to see if the behaviors that
he's exhibiting, for the most part, are
511
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,040
predictable. Hi.
512
00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:23,580
Want to hang out?
513
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,260
Not like you're not communicating.
514
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:31,320
You're doing that pretty loud and clear.
515
00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,160
And that, pretty loud and clear.
516
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Thank you for the warning.
517
00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:39,520
Now, what if I approach you the way your
mom does?
518
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520
What if I'm jumpy, like your mom is?
519
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,340
What? What?
520
00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:46,660
Okay.
521
00:30:46,910 --> 00:30:47,910
There it is.
522
00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:49,030
There it is.
523
00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:50,890
Ow!
524
00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:54,750
I get you, dude. I get you.
525
00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:59,970
Message received.
526
00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:05,030
What I'm finding is that he needs to be
pushed and pushed pretty hard before he
527
00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:08,090
says, you know what, I've had it. I
warned you enough times. Take that.
528
00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:11,590
Now, obviously, Michelle's missing some
of those clues.
529
00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:17,270
All right.
530
00:31:17,410 --> 00:31:20,990
The way I'm going to break down the
homework, I've got work for you, I've
531
00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:24,990
work for you, and of course I've got
work for Zoe as well. The first thing, I
532
00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:28,270
want you to find what motivates him. Let
me pull something out of here for a
533
00:31:28,270 --> 00:31:29,270
second.
534
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:32,190
This toy here, my little caterpillar
guy.
535
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,080
I want you to find toys like this. When
I say like this, I mean interactive.
536
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,940
You're on one side, he's on the other.
And then basically what you're doing is
537
00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:44,300
you're dictating the level of aerobic
activity that he gets.
538
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,120
I want John and Michelle to have a very
structured play regimen. Because Zoe's a
539
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,440
very overweight cat, I want John to play
him like crazy, take the cat and wear
540
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,620
him down every day.
541
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Now, for Michelle, I want to see you
start leading him around the house.
542
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,360
In fact...
543
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,880
setting up something like an exercise
course for him. Because when he starts
544
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,180
follow you, respect you as the leader of
this territory, I think things will
545
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:11,380
start looking a little differently.
546
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:15,580
Michelle's homework's a little more
difficult because the big theme here is
547
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:19,960
repairing and rebonding with Zoe. And
after all this time, that might be kind
548
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,720
tough. So she's got to re -engage.
549
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080
Last thing that I want you guys to do.
550
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:29,410
is I'd like you to take the concept of
that catchery. What I'd like you to do
551
00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:31,910
not get another catchery. I want you to
build one.
552
00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:37,930
I think it's not only a way to help let
go of the resentments, but it's also an
553
00:32:37,930 --> 00:32:43,110
activity that you two can bond over and
also create a new bond with Zoe, okay?
554
00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:47,910
You guys all, all three of you, deserve
this shot. And let's make this happen,
555
00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:49,430
okay? Thank you very much.
556
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:54,120
The hardest challenge would be the
letting go of resentment that I have for
557
00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:59,120
I don't want to get rid of Zoe. But the
reality is that Zoe could be euthanized
558
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,380
if this behavior continues.
559
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,220
I'm going in right now for my second
visit with John and Michelle about their
560
00:33:18,220 --> 00:33:18,939
cat, Zoe.
561
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:22,340
Now, the first time I was here, I met a
cat who was really aggressive, but only
562
00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:23,760
towards one person, Michelle.
563
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:31,060
Michelle wants to get rid of Zoe. John,
on the other hand, loves
564
00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:32,460
Zoe and doesn't want to see him go.
565
00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:36,060
So I'm hoping that this time around that
Michelle is letting go of her
566
00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:39,940
resentments because if she forms the
bond, the energy will be a lot more calm
567
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:41,280
and there will be less attack.
568
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:43,300
So, guys.
569
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:44,660
How's things going?
570
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,700
Pretty good. What's pretty good?
571
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:48,460
Let's do an arm check.
572
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,300
Yeah, no new ones, no new scars. You
guys are both clean, man.
573
00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:55,440
Seriously, that's huge.
574
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Yeah. The last time I was here, I gave
you specific instructions that were
575
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,380
different for each one of you.
576
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:06,660
For Michelle, your task was structured
leadership, and for you, John, it was
577
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:07,660
about structured exhaustion.
578
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,880
Are you guys adhering to those roles?
579
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,120
When I tried to...
580
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,139
you know, get something and have him
follow me. He doesn't really follow
581
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,520
I'm having trouble with that. What about
the exhaustion part?
582
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,900
Sometimes it's pretty hard to get him to
follow you for a long period of time.
583
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,300
And then, you know, he'd just get, he'll
walk away and just get disinterested.
584
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,000
Okay. So we really, we haven't found in
the toy world, we haven't found the
585
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,440
thing that goes jackpot to him, right?
You got to find that. That's really
586
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,440
important for him. Yeah.
587
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,900
Now, what I really want to do is go over
your video homework with you.
588
00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:41,940
What we got to see was Zoe playing with
both Michelle and John.
589
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,020
Not that it was great play, because it
really wasn't. I mean, you're not going
590
00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:49,679
to get anywhere with this. I mean, what
cat is going to respond to this?
591
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Yeah,
592
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:52,380
good job.
593
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,420
No wonder Zoe wasn't invested.
594
00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,530
I also got to see that new cat condo
that I assigned them to build. It was
595
00:35:00,530 --> 00:35:04,550
something that they had to do together.
They both had to think about what Zoe
596
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:08,510
wanted. I just got some great ideas just
from watching your videos. That means
597
00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:12,510
you recorded some great stuff for me.
Now, let's take a look around and see
598
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:13,650
you guys have done, okay? All right.
599
00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:18,270
Now, let's start here because, first of
all, I noticed this when I walked in.
600
00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:22,590
Let's move this, and when I move it,
you'll start seeing the method to the
601
00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:23,590
measures.
602
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:26,960
So this is where I want it to be, okay?
603
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:28,558
Take a look.
604
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,560
You understand where I'm going?
605
00:35:29,780 --> 00:35:33,160
I think it's a place where he can jump
down safely instead of jumping all the
606
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,560
way to the floor if he doesn't have a
TV.
607
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,860
For a cat of his size with no real firm
landing area, it scared me. I didn't
608
00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:40,860
like it one little bit.
609
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:44,330
It is really important to fill that
empty space with something sturdy.
610
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:48,130
This is why we were working on leading
him around. This is where it comes in.
611
00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:52,090
For you, Michelle, this is going to
become our leadership course, right? Cat
612
00:35:52,090 --> 00:35:53,290
course. Exactly.
613
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:57,450
I mean, I worry for Michelle because we
don't know when he'll next attack. It's
614
00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:00,610
going to take a lot of work, but this is
what we came here to do. Now, I want
615
00:36:00,610 --> 00:36:03,990
one of you guys to go grab the wet food
that he's totally into these days, okay?
616
00:36:04,170 --> 00:36:07,550
Okay. In the meantime, this is a feeding
rod.
617
00:36:08,110 --> 00:36:11,910
I love it because basically you can feed
him just like a regular spoon here. You
618
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:16,290
can also stretch it out. The retractable
feeding rod is pretty simple. It gives
619
00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:20,610
you distance between you and a
potentially aggressive cat. That's great
620
00:36:20,610 --> 00:36:24,650
you're presenting something really nice
to them in a safe way. And this is the
621
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:28,030
food that you've been feeding, right?
Yep. So here's how we're going to work
622
00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:32,030
this. I want you to get him to start
moving, okay?
623
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,840
The leadership course is going to be me
leading Zoe around so that he respects
624
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,660
me. Start moving towards that spoon.
625
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:41,060
With this?
626
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,640
With food?
627
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:49,180
The key to success with the retractable
feeding rod is that you've got to find
628
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:53,640
that jackpot food. If he's not into the
toys, he'll be into the food.
629
00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:55,600
Just inch it as he's eating.
630
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,340
Like he doesn't even notice it.
631
00:36:58,380 --> 00:36:59,820
I want to paw up there.
632
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:03,960
I need you to be completely relaxed as
you're doing this. With food?
633
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,540
Oh, you got him. You got him.
634
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,480
So it made me feel like a sense of
accomplishment that I was able to lead
635
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,540
So basically, I want to see you the next
time I get back here, to the point
636
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,340
where you're just comfortable enough
just feeding him from a spoon, leading
637
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:24,880
around. Jackson's goal is for me to get
it down to the size of a spoon.
638
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:29,060
Inching in a little bit more and a
little bit more is scary, but I'm sure
639
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:32,600
if we do it, like, gradually, not all at
once, that it could work. Every cat
640
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,740
I've ever met has a jackpot trigger,
right? We've got to find what that is in
641
00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:38,640
him and make sure we get him to follow
us, all right?
642
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,300
The leadership course is something that
I came up with to help Michelle become a
643
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,500
leader. I want her to have confidence
while performing these leadership
644
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,900
All right, guys.
645
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,540
I would say a good majority of the big
issues seem to be starting to resolve.
646
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:59,300
As we walked through today, I saw other
challenges.
647
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,140
So let's start talking about some of the
homework.
648
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:05,200
The first thing is I need you to go
shopping.
649
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:09,370
We don't have his attention where we
need it to be, and I'm telling you,
650
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:13,670
cat has that button, and that's what you
have to find. We're missing that
651
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:19,290
jackpot, both in toy and food. If we
have that, then Zoe has a reason to
652
00:38:19,290 --> 00:38:23,370
things around the room, and he has a
reason to get exhausted in the first
653
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:26,750
The energy will be a lot more calm, and
there will be less attack.
654
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:32,710
John, we go for the exhaustion with you.
Now, that's the toys. That's also the
655
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:34,690
physical investment from you.
656
00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:40,120
For you, Michelle, it's more about
getting him moving around the course
657
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:44,140
And that's done with the food jackpot.
Because again, what I'd really like to
658
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:47,240
see by the next time I come back here is
that boy going around.
659
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,740
No pausing, no nothing. We're around the
homestretch right now.
660
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:54,860
There is a lot of work to be done, but
that's what I'm here for. All right,
661
00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:58,860
guys, cool. I think we have a lot of
work cut out for us before the next
662
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,380
I'm still a little bit scared of him,
and if Zoe doesn't get fixed by this
663
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:04,880
process, then, like, he's gone.
664
00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:09,130
I'm here for my final visit with John
and Michelle and their cat Zoe.
665
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:13,850
Now, Zoe was such an aggressive cat that
Michelle had called animal services on
666
00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:18,230
her own cat numerous times. Since then,
the homework has revolved around getting
667
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:22,430
Michelle to a certain leadership,
getting John to be in charge of
668
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:25,990
Zoe. On their video homework, the first
thing I got to see was that they brought
669
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:30,830
in... Treats. We were looking for that
jackpot treat that Zoe would just go
670
00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:35,810
around the room for. I got to see
Michelle using the retractable food rod
671
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:39,390
the way out with the wet food. It worked
perfectly. It was a really important
672
00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:43,710
thing for us to get this cat moving
through the house and also to get
673
00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:46,050
taking charge of that whole exercise.
674
00:39:46,610 --> 00:39:47,750
River and chicken.
675
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:52,370
I'm hoping today that I'm going to go in
and see a cat that's grounded and calm
676
00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:55,890
and a little exhausted, and that way we
have a cat who's going to have a forever
677
00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:56,890
home.
678
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:59,170
So, how's life with Kat?
679
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:04,870
No calls to animal services.
680
00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:06,730
Amen.
681
00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:08,670
Amen. We win.
682
00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:12,470
Wonderful, guys. Tell me about it. So,
first of all, like, I've been doing the
683
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:14,290
leadership course with Zoe every day.
684
00:40:14,590 --> 00:40:17,930
Right. And I started out with a
retractable spoon at the longest length,
685
00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:19,610
then now I'm just down to a regular
spoon.
686
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:21,250
No more ski gloves.
687
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:22,169
Yeah, no.
688
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:25,070
I feel, you know, confident and safe
around him. High -five moment.
689
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:27,710
Such a high -five moment. That's
beautiful.
690
00:40:28,170 --> 00:40:31,830
I'm just proud of Michelle for growing
as a person, and it's huge.
691
00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:35,250
Yeah, John's been a big help, too. Like
I said, before I felt like I was on my
692
00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:39,450
own, like just me battling him and Zoe,
you know, but now it feels like he's on
693
00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:40,750
my side. Oh, yeah.
694
00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:44,570
Oh, yeah. Well, I'd love to see what you
guys have been doing with your
695
00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:46,350
homework, so get up and take a look.
696
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,940
As far as I'm concerned, one of the last
things I really need to see is Michelle
697
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:53,820
leading Zoe around the leadership
course, and that's because I want to see
698
00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:58,880
she is still grounded and exerting just
a calm authority with him. So I asked
699
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,620
John to get Zoe, and then I sent
Michelle off to the kitchen to grab some
700
00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:05,500
for Zoe, and I had her start the
leadership course.
701
00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:06,740
Zoe.
702
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,040
Deidre, come here.
703
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Good, just give it to him right there.
704
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,700
Let's get that motor going. No, no, no,
just let him eat.
705
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Good, that's fine.
706
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Very nice.
707
00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:31,220
So far, so good. We have got Zoe playing
follow the leader with Michelle.
708
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,620
Okay, you know what to do next.
709
00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:33,859
Come right here.
710
00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:37,040
Now, of course, Zoe does what he's done
all the way along, which is he jumps on
711
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,020
the floor first and then up to John's
desk.
712
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:40,420
Well, that was a quick one.
713
00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:43,160
Okay, so he went floor, up on the desk.
714
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,560
This is getting exciting.
715
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,460
Oh, and tree.
716
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:50,120
He loves the tree. This is easy.
717
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,760
Up on the dresser.
718
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,740
He's totally ready now, the big moment.
719
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,420
If we could, please.
720
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,700
Yes. Good. Leave him up. Just keep
working with him.
721
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Oh, yeah.
722
00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:05,760
There we go. Keep him going.
723
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,600
Come on, buddy. All four paws.
724
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,140
All four paws.
725
00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:10,850
All four paws.
726
00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:11,928
There we go.
727
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:13,030
Very, very nice.
728
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:14,890
Good boy. So yummy.
729
00:42:15,970 --> 00:42:21,050
This jump means we get everything that
we want. I'm watching this catch's move
730
00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:25,450
with just such grace towards that
doorway. Michelle's leading him
731
00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:26,650
Good boy, Joy.
732
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:30,150
And I'm starting to think that that's as
far as we're going to get.
733
00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:31,730
Right here.
734
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:33,710
We can get this jump. We got it done.
735
00:42:34,030 --> 00:42:35,030
Right here.
736
00:42:36,070 --> 00:42:37,070
Right here.
737
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,260
And there he... Bang!
738
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,340
Yay! I was just blown away.
739
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:49,280
This isn't just about a cat jumping from
a dresser to an entertainment center.
740
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:51,380
This is a demonstration of leadership.
741
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,580
That was really important because
Michelle's leadership diminishes the
742
00:42:55,580 --> 00:42:57,920
of attack from Zoe. Beautiful job.
743
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,198
Thank you.
744
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,198
Good work.
745
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,180
I'm definitely proud of Michelle and
just so happy to see Michelle so
746
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,980
comfortable being, you know, face -to
-face with Zoe when she had to wear ski
747
00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:09,260
gloves to handle him just a little while
ago.
748
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,000
Honestly, that jump in my presence,
beautiful.
749
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:20,600
I started to tell her how amazing that
was. And before I could, she picked him
750
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,360
up and put him on the dresser. And she
started petting the cat. And then she
751
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,360
kissed him.
752
00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:34,990
Are you kidding me? She just totally
changed. She's become stronger. I can't
753
00:43:34,990 --> 00:43:36,690
I'm out of words right now. Right?
754
00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:37,930
No, me too.
755
00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:39,970
I'm done. I'm going home.
756
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:44,670
This is good. Are you aware of the fact
that, like, you couldn't even touch him
757
00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:45,670
a couple weeks ago?
758
00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:48,790
I couldn't have done all this without
you. They're all your tips and pointers.
759
00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:53,390
You're absolutely welcome. To see people
be able to lose fear the way that you
760
00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:56,310
have is so inspirational. It really is.
761
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,100
Definitely a happy ending for all of us.
We've set out what we've accomplished
762
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,620
to do, you know, no more attacks.
763
00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:04,080
Zoe gets to stay in our home forever.
764
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,400
I'm happy that the relationship is not
just like John and Zoe anymore, but now
765
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,860
it's like John, Zoe, and me.
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