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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,810 --> 00:00:03,310 I thought I knew cats until I met Penny. 2 00:00:07,110 --> 00:00:12,210 She can go from being cuddly and sweet to an attack cat. 3 00:00:15,030 --> 00:00:20,050 We have a cat named Tony. 4 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:21,750 He pees all over the house. 5 00:00:21,970 --> 00:00:26,530 I've had to sand and re -varnish the floor. He has this little stuffed animal 6 00:00:26,530 --> 00:00:28,610 cat. He likes to mount. 7 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:36,330 Making our life hell. 8 00:00:42,130 --> 00:00:43,430 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 9 00:00:43,650 --> 00:00:47,090 I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 10 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:50,390 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 11 00:00:53,450 --> 00:00:56,930 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 12 00:00:57,370 --> 00:01:01,790 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 13 00:01:01,850 --> 00:01:05,830 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 14 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:10,790 When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to 15 00:01:10,790 --> 00:01:14,610 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 16 00:01:14,610 --> 00:01:16,350 her. I'm their last hope. 17 00:01:16,790 --> 00:01:23,650 Are you all right? Sorry, I don't know. Cats 18 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:26,690 have nine lives, but humans only have one. 19 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,860 I'm in San Francisco, and I'm on my way to go see Will and Liz, and they've got 20 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:51,180 this cat. She is vicious. 21 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,800 She's putting such a daily beating on their older cat that they're afraid for 22 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,800 his life, and you know what? 23 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,940 So am I. I'm going over there right now. Let's see what I can do about it. 24 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,098 I'm Will. 25 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:06,580 I'm Liz. And we've been married 32 years. 26 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,199 Puck is a 17 -year -old cat that we've got. 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,520 17 years. 17 years ago. 28 00:02:12,780 --> 00:02:14,700 Penny. Belongs to our daughter, Rosalyn. 29 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:15,920 Rosie. Got. 30 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Penny, about two years ago. When Rosie went to grad school in Boston, 31 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,200 unfortunately, one of her roommates was allergic to cat. 32 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:29,300 She was told she couldn't bring the cat with her. I said I would take the cat. 33 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:32,100 It seemed like a perfectly reasonable thing to do. 34 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,640 I thought I knew cats until I met Penny. 35 00:02:44,590 --> 00:02:46,430 The noise is terrifying. 36 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:53,750 After an attack, we find pee, blood, hair. 37 00:02:55,730 --> 00:02:57,710 It's a really terrible situation. 38 00:02:58,210 --> 00:03:02,130 Puck doesn't deserve this. Puck was living here very happily, and we bring 39 00:03:02,130 --> 00:03:03,130 the cat from hell. 40 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:09,210 Jackson, we need your help, because Puck's life is in danger from the psycho 41 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:10,210 cat, Penny. 42 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:48,000 Hi, I'm Liz. Hi, Liz. Good to see you. Come in and I'll lead you up. When I 43 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,080 into Will and Liz's house, there's this vibe of darkness that's just hanging 44 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,500 over everything to go into the kitchen. And I look down. 45 00:03:57,660 --> 00:03:58,660 What's this? 46 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,860 There is leftover carnage. 47 00:04:03,140 --> 00:04:05,360 There is urine. There is hair. 48 00:04:05,780 --> 00:04:09,560 And, yeah, there's blood, too. Something horrible just happened here. 49 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Penny attacked Puck, and that's Puck's fur. 50 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Oh, my God. 51 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,959 It was really frightening. 52 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:25,240 Yeah. Does this happen a lot? 53 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:28,240 Yes, every time. Every time. This is unacceptable. 54 00:04:28,820 --> 00:04:30,920 It's just so unfair to Puck. 55 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,480 She's been our cat. She's lived here for 17 years. We've had her since she was 56 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,480 about six weeks old. 57 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:41,840 Every time it happens, I feel I'm betraying her. 58 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:47,670 Yeah. I'm always trying to play down things when I first walk into a home. 59 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:51,350 time, I didn't know how to candy coat it. If you weren't here, someone would 60 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:52,350 dead. That's right. Yeah. 61 00:04:52,910 --> 00:04:56,390 Is there a place we can go sit? You can download me on everything? Yes, let's 62 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:57,390 come on in here. 63 00:04:58,050 --> 00:05:00,230 Are you good? 64 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:02,230 Yes. You're okay? We're okay now. 65 00:05:02,470 --> 00:05:07,950 Penny is your daughter's cat? Penny belongs to our daughter, Rosalind. Okay. 66 00:05:07,950 --> 00:05:11,510 thought we could easily take care of her cat for her. The problem is, of course. 67 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:15,320 that Rosie's cat keeps trying to kill our old cat. 68 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:19,880 Have you guys checked in on the cat since the fight? We need to do that. If 69 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,100 okay with you guys, I'd like to check in with them. Sure. 70 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,780 Usually when I go into people's homes, I check on the cat with a behavioral 71 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:29,980 problem, but we have a 17 -year -old cat who got beat up pretty badly, and I got 72 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:30,980 to check on her first. 73 00:05:31,060 --> 00:05:32,060 Hi, baby. 74 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:33,380 Hi, Puck. 75 00:05:33,540 --> 00:05:37,560 Puck was terrified when I took her out to inspect her. I mean, zero confidence. 76 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:39,000 Well, hello, Puck. 77 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:42,390 Come here, girl. I thought Puck was a really sweet cat. 78 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:45,330 She's a product of an amazing home. 79 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:46,910 Let me check you. 80 00:05:48,190 --> 00:05:50,050 Oh, okay. So that's the wound. 81 00:05:50,330 --> 00:05:51,029 Uh -oh. 82 00:05:51,030 --> 00:05:53,270 There it is. Oh, yeah. So at least we know where it came from. 83 00:05:53,790 --> 00:05:56,770 Typically, if a wound is bad enough that it's going to require a visit to the 84 00:05:56,770 --> 00:06:00,570 vet, I'd be the first one to tell you to do it. But in this case, I did my own 85 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:03,810 body check, and I could tell that this tough old cat would be all right. I 86 00:06:03,810 --> 00:06:06,310 want to keep her in this position any more than we have to. Let's keep moving, 87 00:06:06,410 --> 00:06:08,030 okay? Okay. All right, baby. 88 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:13,270 I asked to go back out in the hallway, and we looked down this long San 89 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:17,890 Francisco rail car hallway, and at the end of it was where the fight ended 90 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:18,890 today. 91 00:06:20,110 --> 00:06:25,750 To me, this is horrifying, if you're Puck, because it's just this long 92 00:06:25,750 --> 00:06:29,690 with no escape. This house is just one huge dead end, if your name happens to 93 00:06:29,690 --> 00:06:30,810 Puck. Okay, guys. 94 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:35,390 Penny, you said that she decompressed after fights like this? Where would that 95 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:37,690 be? She's back here. Let's see if she'll... 96 00:06:37,930 --> 00:06:38,930 Come out. 97 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:42,370 Penny's an aggressive cat, so I'm pretty trepidatious about meeting her. 98 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:50,510 Well, hello. 99 00:06:52,970 --> 00:06:57,310 There's this wobbly little cute cat that comes on out. This tortie is the one 100 00:06:57,310 --> 00:06:59,950 that's almost killing another cat. It's really hard to believe. 101 00:07:00,570 --> 00:07:02,210 She's very friendly. 102 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,460 Does she usually recover pretty quickly after the fight? 103 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:07,840 Yes. Sometimes within seconds. 104 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,300 I followed her in here, and she was eating from her food dish. 105 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,240 She goes from doing that to eating? To eating at her food dish, yeah. 106 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:19,860 I am pretty concerned about Penny's Jekyll and Hyde behavior. 107 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,480 You can go from this to this in 60 seconds? 108 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:24,880 Something off about that. 109 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,480 How do you do the cordoning in the house? I mean, normally, is she the one 110 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,520 out all the time? Yeah. 111 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Yeah. Well, that's a lot. 112 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:36,700 Cats are territorial by nature, so if you want to have peace in this house, 113 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:38,780 have to co -own the entire place. 114 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:43,720 So I want to sit with Will and Liz and really figure out where to go from here. 115 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:50,240 Okay, well, when I came here, I was kind of, you saw, I was kind of mortified 116 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,240 and kind of breathless. 117 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:55,520 Penny is driven to kill another cat. 118 00:07:56,780 --> 00:08:00,100 When it comes to Penny's aggression, there's no rough play involved. She sees 119 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:03,900 Puck, zero to 60, it's over. I think it could be any other cat. I think it 120 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:09,160 doesn't have anything to do with Puck. It's going to be a challenge no matter 121 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,060 what. We just don't want death. 122 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,400 That's it. 123 00:08:12,460 --> 00:08:14,860 So I want to start giving you guys some homework. 124 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:19,420 I really want to work on Puck's self -esteem. We raise her self -esteem 125 00:08:19,420 --> 00:08:20,860 sight swapping, right? 126 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:25,160 Sight swapping is a way for cats to own different areas of the house. 127 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:29,170 Separately, but equally. Because we can't have them in the same area alone. 128 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:32,890 These guys have to learn how to share things, even if they're not sharing it 129 00:08:32,890 --> 00:08:33,890 the same time of the day. 130 00:08:34,090 --> 00:08:36,030 Home has got to be home for everybody. 131 00:08:36,570 --> 00:08:41,150 I never want to see a cat trapped in a certain area for more than 12 to 16 132 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:42,929 a day. It's just not fair. 133 00:08:43,169 --> 00:08:46,170 That brings us to the next thing. I want you guys to do... 134 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:50,570 An introduction, a reintroduction. We're going to make sure that we have a great 135 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:56,290 gate so that Penny can't and won't try to get over it. And then we're going to 136 00:08:56,290 --> 00:09:00,690 move them from this long hallway. We're going to reintroduce them through food. 137 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:05,170 I want to use this long -distance gating technique here. I've done a lot of 138 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:09,710 reintroductions with food before, but never one with a long hallway. My goal 139 00:09:09,790 --> 00:09:14,570 can we get them this far apart, eating, walking away? 140 00:09:15,260 --> 00:09:17,820 This is not posturing. This is not play. 141 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,520 This is the desire to make another animal dead. 142 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,340 Have a great night, guys. If these guys flunk this test, I'm going to tell them 143 00:09:27,340 --> 00:09:28,540 we need to rehome Penny. 144 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,620 I'm going in for my second visit right now with the help out Liz and Will. 145 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:50,860 daughter Rosie's cat, Penny, has been beating up their older cat, Puck. 146 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:54,220 Stop! 147 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,380 Get off! 148 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:59,500 But first, I needed to video chat with Rosie so I could fill her in on exactly 149 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:03,100 how bad it was at home. Plus, I wanted to give her some early homework. 150 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:06,500 Hi. Hey, Rosie. It's great to meet you. 151 00:10:06,890 --> 00:10:07,889 Nice to meet you. 152 00:10:07,890 --> 00:10:10,750 It's a strange way to meet, but hey, we'll take what we can get, right? 153 00:10:10,950 --> 00:10:14,870 Exactly. Tell me, first of all, does your mom tell you what's going on with 154 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:15,769 Penny and Puck? 155 00:10:15,770 --> 00:10:19,030 I mean, she does a little, but I don't think she tells me everything. 156 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:20,290 It's a bad situation. 157 00:10:21,310 --> 00:10:25,310 It's just strange because I've never seen her be that violent. 158 00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:28,850 I mean, I do think it has something to do with the fact that Penny was your 159 00:10:29,090 --> 00:10:32,990 And when you left her, she'd lost her guide that she had had her whole life. 160 00:10:32,990 --> 00:10:36,070 Penny was basically overcompensating by acting out aggressively. 161 00:10:36,410 --> 00:10:40,630 Right. I really need to bring you into the homework right now. So the way we're 162 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:43,870 going to do that is if you could start gathering up things over the next week 163 00:10:43,870 --> 00:10:46,390 that are used by you. 164 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,340 I want Rosie to send in something from Boston with her scent on it. A pillow, a 165 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:54,000 blanket, something that will soothe Penny and hopefully curb her aggression 166 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,960 towards Puck. Something that you can do for me? 167 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,159 Yeah, definitely. 168 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,560 All right. I'll meet you in San Francisco in a few weeks. 169 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Okay. Bye -bye. 170 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Bye. 171 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,020 Now that I've video chatted with Rosie, I'm going to go back over to Will and 172 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:10,200 Liz's house and check on Penny and Puck's progress. All I'm hoping for is 173 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,140 there's less blood than the last time I was here, but I have no idea. 174 00:11:14,180 --> 00:11:15,180 Okay, well. 175 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:18,380 Talk to Rosie, and I think she gets it now. 176 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,940 So, give me good news, please. 177 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:28,240 The cats are not best of friends, nor are they in the same room together. 178 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,760 So, they can't eat facing each other. Is that what you're saying? 179 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Yes. 180 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:39,900 We don't trust them together yet. 181 00:11:40,350 --> 00:11:41,350 That would be a mistake. 182 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:44,690 If Will and Liz are too afraid to get these two cats face -to -face with one 183 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:46,970 another now, this whole plan's going to fall apart. 184 00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:48,730 All right, so what else? 185 00:11:49,150 --> 00:11:50,150 Thigh -swapping. 186 00:11:50,190 --> 00:11:52,430 Thigh -swapping. Great for Puck, particularly. 187 00:11:52,630 --> 00:11:55,790 She's got the house again. I absolutely love that. 188 00:11:56,350 --> 00:12:00,070 Sight swapping is great for Pug because sight swapping allows cats to have 189 00:12:00,070 --> 00:12:02,590 ownership of the entire house, not just one area. 190 00:12:02,830 --> 00:12:06,970 Success looks differently, you know, and I don't think that we're looking at two 191 00:12:06,970 --> 00:12:10,450 cats who are going to sit and have tea together anytime soon. Right. 192 00:12:10,910 --> 00:12:14,290 I have your video homework, so let's take a look at what you guys did. 193 00:12:16,330 --> 00:12:18,930 Will has put up gate number one. 194 00:12:19,370 --> 00:12:20,370 We're secure. 195 00:12:21,070 --> 00:12:22,090 Here's your food. 196 00:12:26,570 --> 00:12:27,329 Oh, God! 197 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:28,650 She bit my hand. 198 00:12:30,810 --> 00:12:32,870 Stop videoing me! I don't... 199 00:12:35,790 --> 00:12:37,130 Yeah, boy, guys. 200 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:40,810 Okay, so after the bite, you didn't have to go to the hospital or anything like 201 00:12:40,810 --> 00:12:44,290 that? No, I didn't. I didn't. When we put the gates up, Penny was sitting 202 00:12:44,410 --> 00:12:48,450 and... Penny kind of rolled over and gave a soft little meow, and I thought 203 00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:52,670 was wanting to be petted, and I reached down, and then she was on. 204 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:55,330 And did she know that Puck was nearby? 205 00:12:55,670 --> 00:13:00,390 Yes. Yes, she did. Oh, okay. So basically, we're talking about Penny was 206 00:13:00,390 --> 00:13:03,490 midst of communication with Puck. Yes. 207 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:08,560 Penny rolling over on her back doesn't mean, as in dog language, please pet my 208 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:12,440 stomach. It means I'm vulnerable here. I'm trying to have a conversation with 209 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,820 that cat, and you just interrupted it. She was just scared, and she bit in 210 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:20,780 response. Good stuff on there, though. But I do want to see them eat before I 211 00:13:20,780 --> 00:13:21,359 leave today. 212 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,580 Get up and take a look around. 213 00:13:23,020 --> 00:13:27,060 Okay. The last time I was here, it was really important that we do a full body 214 00:13:27,060 --> 00:13:29,280 check on Puck because she got beat up so badly. 215 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,440 Hello. Is she healing up now? Is she all right? Yeah. 216 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:34,260 Much better, baby. 217 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,360 She's not only healing externally, she's healing internally. It's a great thing 218 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,660 to see. Her ability to be able to see Penny and eat around Penny is our real 219 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:47,700 huge marker that we've got to get to. So what I'd like to do is I'm going to get 220 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:50,840 the whole feeding ritual set up. I want to see these guys eat, okay? 221 00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:55,800 Let's do it. Come on. To measure the progress, I really needed to see the 222 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,540 feeding ritual, to see where we are, because the next time I come back here, 223 00:13:59,540 --> 00:14:00,540 going to expect more. 224 00:14:01,310 --> 00:14:05,130 She could jump the gate, but she's made no attempt to do that. And they're two 225 00:14:05,130 --> 00:14:08,450 sets. But Penny, of course, she wants to get to where Puck is, and I have no 226 00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:10,530 doubt that she would become aggressive and soon attack. 227 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:12,550 Now go ahead and put your mat down. 228 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:15,530 Will, you go ahead and put your food down. 229 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:16,990 Come on. 230 00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:21,230 Okay. Getting cats to eat very close to one another while having visual access 231 00:14:21,230 --> 00:14:26,570 is very important because food source is probably the most important thing in a 232 00:14:26,570 --> 00:14:27,570 cat's life. 233 00:14:28,330 --> 00:14:32,190 Now you see, it's definitely what Puck's seeing down the hallway that's making 234 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:33,190 her very unhappy. 235 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:37,970 Will, how's it going back there? She's devouring her food and keeping an eye on 236 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:40,170 you and Puck as best she can. Okay. 237 00:14:43,390 --> 00:14:44,069 That's it. 238 00:14:44,070 --> 00:14:45,070 Oh, God! 239 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:48,910 Puck became more and more tense. 240 00:14:49,130 --> 00:14:53,810 I put her there a couple of times. I even pushed her head in the bowl because 241 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:56,190 knew she was hungry. She wouldn't eat. She ran off. 242 00:14:57,750 --> 00:15:00,790 She's not remotely comfortable with Penny in view. 243 00:15:01,030 --> 00:15:03,990 So this is what we're going to have to do. Here, I'm going to come to your side 244 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:05,790 if you don't mind. I'm going to show you. 245 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:07,850 I'm tucked. I can eat right here. 246 00:15:09,310 --> 00:15:11,870 And even if I look around, I can't see her. 247 00:15:12,190 --> 00:15:13,190 That's where we start. 248 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:17,230 We go around the corner where Puck just can't see Penny. All we're asking you to 249 00:15:17,230 --> 00:15:21,090 do is eat at the same time. That's our first step. And then over the next 250 00:15:21,090 --> 00:15:23,770 of days, move her into the sight lines. You've got to do it slowly. 251 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:26,990 First of all, our goal is to get down to one gate. 252 00:15:27,370 --> 00:15:32,590 The first step, however, is getting Puck eating from around the corner and start 253 00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:36,890 getting her closer to the gate. As long as these cats can eat in the sight line 254 00:15:36,890 --> 00:15:40,510 of the other one, by the time I get back here, I don't care how far or how close 255 00:15:40,510 --> 00:15:42,170 they are, that's success. 256 00:15:43,050 --> 00:15:44,930 Oh, I was hoping you'd play that. 257 00:15:45,270 --> 00:15:46,270 Yeah. 258 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,690 Here is a cat hair collar. 259 00:15:50,140 --> 00:15:50,839 There you go. 260 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,500 We've got to kick up the scent swapping in this home, so I brought in these cat 261 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:58,520 hair collars. Basically, you put them on the cat, soaks up their scent, and then 262 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,100 you put it in a socially significant spot in the other space. 263 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:07,620 It's marking with scent. This is communication in the world of cat. I 264 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:10,420 the next time I come back, Rosie's going to be here on break. 265 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:12,660 She will. Well, I'm going to put her to work. 266 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Because I totally think it's unfair that you guys get all the homework. We like 267 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,439 that idea. 268 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,240 All right. The problem began when Rosie offloaded Penny with her parents so that 269 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,880 she can go finish school in Boston. But now Rosie's going to become part of the 270 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,180 solution. Thank you. Thank you. I'll see you in a few weeks. All right. 271 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:30,400 Now it's time for a kitty bit. 272 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:33,940 Tortoiseshell cats are predominantly female. 273 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:35,260 True or false? 274 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:40,760 True. The combination of colors found in most tortoise coats. 275 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,780 can only occur when there are two X chromosomes. 276 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,680 I'm here for my final visit with Will and Liz, and their daughter Rosalyn is 277 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,400 here from school, which is great. The first time I came to this house, there 278 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,520 just been a horrible fight. 279 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,720 Hopefully with the homework done, we have the confidence up enough to have 280 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,720 eating at that gate. 281 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Well, hey there. 282 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:08,040 Hi. How are you? Good. It feels great to be home from grad school, obviously, to 283 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,560 see my parents and the cat. 284 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,660 Some people wouldn't just take in another animal, which they have, and I 285 00:17:14,660 --> 00:17:15,660 appreciate. 286 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,880 Well, good to see an entire family sitting here. 287 00:17:20,099 --> 00:17:22,660 Well, tell me what's been going on. It's been a couple of weeks. Have you gotten 288 00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:25,220 the cats to where they can see each other and eat? 289 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:26,420 Well. 290 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,600 Yeah, we have. 291 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,840 Wow. I know. 292 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:38,780 We were so excited that day. I couldn't believe it. 293 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:44,010 It was awesome for me to finally meet Jackson and to see the two cats so close 294 00:17:44,010 --> 00:17:47,730 to each other was more than I expected coming into this from what I'd heard. 295 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:53,070 That's big, big news. And that means to me that we are really rounding the 296 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:55,470 homestretch with these guys. I want to take a look at your video homework. 297 00:17:56,890 --> 00:18:02,910 Sensual swapping in general has been a major success in this household. 298 00:18:03,130 --> 00:18:06,450 One of the things that's working well is the cat hair color that I left them 299 00:18:06,450 --> 00:18:07,710 last time. I put it on fuck. 300 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:11,380 Puck wears it really well. They then take it off of Puck and present it to 301 00:18:11,380 --> 00:18:15,320 Penny. Penny can smell it and go, all right, that's Puck, without really 302 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,420 redirecting her aggression onto Liz or Will. From Rosie. 303 00:18:18,740 --> 00:18:20,460 Penny, look what's here. 304 00:18:21,020 --> 00:18:24,640 Rosie did what was asked of her. She sent a blanket with her scent on it to 305 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,780 soothe Penny before she came home to visit. 306 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,080 You like that, right? 307 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,200 The video homework couldn't be any better, so I want to push the boundaries 308 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,240 little bit. Today, I wanted to take away that second gate. 309 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Beautiful. There we go. Very nice. Very nice. 310 00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:45,000 Right now, I want to see the feeding itself with just one gate. 311 00:18:45,380 --> 00:18:48,440 Now, here's what I want to do. I'd like you to go get Puck. 312 00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:52,200 And at the same time, Rosie, you're going to get Penny. All right. All 313 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:52,779 let's do it. 314 00:18:52,780 --> 00:18:55,220 Let's get one thing clear. Sometimes you're going to have two cats who will 315 00:18:55,220 --> 00:18:56,219 never get along. 316 00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:59,260 And you're going to have guardians who will never get them up. So if I can just 317 00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:03,320 get Penny and Puck to regard one another on either side of this gate without 318 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Penny going for blood. 319 00:19:04,940 --> 00:19:07,760 I will simply consider this one of the biggest victories of my career. 320 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Good girl. 321 00:19:10,020 --> 00:19:12,900 Liz, if you can just bring Puck over. 322 00:19:13,580 --> 00:19:15,560 Just sit there. Yeah, there you go. 323 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:22,820 I was stressed. I was really worried that this was not going to work at all. 324 00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:36,140 There was a little bit of activity going on that I wasn't so happy about. 325 00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:37,420 Take the food. 326 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:41,060 I want it on that side of your body. That's all I want. There you go. 327 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,940 Penny got really worked up, and she locked eyes with Puck. Now, in the past, 328 00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:49,160 that has been bad news and a precursor of a fight. This time around, I asked 329 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Rosie, just get her distracted, bring her back to you. 330 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:57,540 I want one step moving towards you, and we have success here. 331 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,480 That's it. 332 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,920 Now, the fact that she did that is so huge because at that moment, she was a 333 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,400 who was thinking, and she was thinking about where the payoff was. The payoff 334 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,100 was with the person, not with the cat. 335 00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:20,140 This is the closest these two cats have been. 336 00:20:20,380 --> 00:20:21,700 Yes, it is. 337 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,040 What I like seeing right now is that you guys can sit there. 338 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,360 She's totally calm. 339 00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:27,820 We have one gate. 340 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,200 This is a good thing. 341 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,080 What a good girl you are. 342 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,220 I definitely think I can go back to grad school with a little better sense that 343 00:20:36,220 --> 00:20:39,480 my parents aren't just stressed and unhappy. 344 00:20:39,980 --> 00:20:43,960 Just a couple weeks ago, there's not a chance this could have happened. We have 345 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,340 this moment now. We have two cats on either side of this gate. They're closer 346 00:20:47,340 --> 00:20:49,620 than they've ever been before, and they're absolutely calm. 347 00:20:49,820 --> 00:20:52,900 I was really, really impressed with Penny today. 348 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:57,800 She was a ball of torty fluff just barreling down the hallway. 349 00:21:01,230 --> 00:21:05,030 And today, we saw the cats about as close together as they've been. 350 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:09,030 You just keep doing what you've been doing. Keep challenging these cats 351 00:21:09,030 --> 00:21:13,350 they've responded incredibly well. We could not have possibly done what we've 352 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:17,010 done up until now without the ideas from Jackson. The fact that this happened 353 00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:18,250 today, this soon. 354 00:21:18,810 --> 00:21:23,730 No, I never would have predicted it. I'm really excited to eventually be able to 355 00:21:23,730 --> 00:21:27,430 reclaim Penny and then have Puck have the run of the house again. 356 00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:30,050 I cannot wait for you to graduate. 357 00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:35,030 Take care of yourselves, okay? No action on either side of the gate means that 358 00:21:35,030 --> 00:21:40,270 there's no payoff to have a fight. And that means peace can prevail here. Bye, 359 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:47,310 guys. We have a cat named Tony. 360 00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:51,430 He pees all over the house. And he has this little stuffed animal cat. 361 00:21:51,690 --> 00:21:54,810 He starts mating with it. He's making our life hell. 362 00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:05,870 Tony, what are you doing? 363 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,450 I'm here in San Francisco, and I'm going to go see Betty and Cliff. Betty and 364 00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:24,690 Cliff have a cat named Tony. 365 00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:26,670 Tony's exhibiting bizarre behavior. 366 00:22:26,930 --> 00:22:27,930 I know you're upset. 367 00:22:28,490 --> 00:22:29,950 I don't know what it's all about. 368 00:22:30,370 --> 00:22:33,450 He's also peeing all over the house. I'm going to go over there right now and 369 00:22:33,450 --> 00:22:35,470 see if there's some sense to be talked into this cat. 370 00:22:38,130 --> 00:22:39,130 I'm Cliff. 371 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:40,270 And I'm Betty. 372 00:22:40,450 --> 00:22:42,950 We met on an airplane 25 years ago. 373 00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:47,130 Betty's an artist, and I'm an accountant, a CPA, and... 374 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:53,660 We have a cat named Tony, a domestic short hair. We got Tony as a kitten. He 375 00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:59,940 a stray cat that was rescued, and he was separated from his mother too soon and 376 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:01,900 developed emotional issues. 377 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:06,820 We try to accommodate him as best we can. He's like our kid. We don't have 378 00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:09,500 kids, so he's like our little child. 379 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,460 He has this little stuffed animal cat that we call Dempsey. 380 00:23:17,050 --> 00:23:20,950 And he likes to mount Dempsey. 381 00:23:25,150 --> 00:23:28,490 When he's finished, it's almost like he needs to light up a cigarette or 382 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:31,710 something. Tony does it pretty regularly, just about every morning. 383 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:36,330 He pees all over the house. I mean, in every corner, you can imagine he's 384 00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:38,850 peeing. This is what Tony left us this morning. 385 00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:41,670 I don't know what to do. I'm kind of at my wit's end. 386 00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:45,910 The cat pee smell alone is just, it'll permeate the house. 387 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:48,730 He has a habit of spraying outlets. 388 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:54,210 This power strip started out on the floor, but Tony actually sprayed on the 389 00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:56,010 and right into my power strip. 390 00:23:56,250 --> 00:24:02,890 I've had to sand and re -varnish the floor. I've also had to repaint areas of 391 00:24:02,890 --> 00:24:03,890 the wall and the trim. 392 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:10,270 At one point, it got so bad that my brother even said, it's Kitty Kevorkian 393 00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:11,270 for him. 394 00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:16,250 It would be really hard for us to get rid of him. That would be an absolute 395 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:18,710 resort. So we're willing to try just about anything. 396 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:21,330 He's making our life hell. 397 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:26,970 Hey. Hi, Jackson. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, man. 398 00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:30,770 I'm excited that Jackson's going to be here because if he can't fix him, I 399 00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:31,770 think anybody can. 400 00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:35,050 So, I'm sure I'm here for a good reason. Tell me what's going on. 401 00:24:35,290 --> 00:24:36,690 We have this cat, Tony. 402 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:41,450 Tony the cat? Yeah, he's 12 years old and for the last nine years he's been... 403 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Rain all over our house. 404 00:24:43,420 --> 00:24:45,020 For nine of the 12 years? 405 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,280 I mean, after doing this for nine years, I don't want to think that it can't be 406 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,480 fixed. It's got to be fixed. 407 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:55,420 We don't trust him to have full reign of roaming the house. 408 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,380 So I installed a green door in the middle of our house, right where our 409 00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:01,959 door is. 410 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,460 We called it Kitty Jail. 411 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,880 Betty and Cliff have a screen door in the middle of their house, and that was 412 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,880 little strange. 413 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,720 Tony's developed a strange relationship with a small stuffed animal called 414 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Dempsey. He starts mating with it. 415 00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:20,700 Okay. Yeah. He is neutered, yeah? 416 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:23,220 Yeah, he's neutered. How often does that happen? 417 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:25,320 Almost daily. Are you kidding? 418 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,880 Their neutered cat, Tony, that's right, I said neutered cat, Tony, is getting 419 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,800 intimate with a stuffed animal on a daily basis. Now that one is a big, I 420 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,800 no idea. 421 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:41,800 What I need to do, obviously, is see all these spots that Tony's been marking. 422 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:47,480 I want to see the spots where he takes Dempsey on those dates. 423 00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:52,140 This entire conversation is just one bizarre thing topping another bizarre 424 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:55,920 thing. It's time to get up. It's time to walk around, let the space do the 425 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,340 talking. This is one of the areas where Tony has actually sprayed in the outlet. 426 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,320 You know, you can smell it. You smell it. 427 00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:09,600 Baking pee. Yeah, pretty much. He pees on outlet. He aims for these things. 428 00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:11,440 That one I've never seen before. 429 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560 The next one is my office. 430 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Okay. 431 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:19,140 Pretty much you're looking like in the carpet here. This is where Tony does his 432 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:21,000 little dance. 433 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,700 Dance with his little Dempsey toy. 434 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,980 There's so much about Tony that doesn't add up at all at this point. 435 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,680 Show me Kitty Jail. Okay. 436 00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:35,700 Okay, so this would be from the screen. 437 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,020 I like how you guys have a sense of humor. 438 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,420 Now, does he spray in here, too? No, I think it's because it's like a sanctuary 439 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:44,139 for him. 440 00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:47,200 So what he's saying is, I am, I'm safe here. 441 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,380 I'm not safe anyplace else. 442 00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:53,080 We have that habit going on. 443 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,360 That's Dempsey, isn't it? That's Dempsey. That's Dempsey. So, if you 444 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,510 If you want to pick him up, I know where that... Dempsey's been. 445 00:27:02,270 --> 00:27:04,430 And it's not pleasant. 446 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:11,530 Just from a scientific standpoint, you know, to see this level of wear, where 447 00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:14,330 this is how they do it. Now, where is Tony at? 448 00:27:14,590 --> 00:27:15,590 Tony's in the bathroom. 449 00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:20,330 Now, I feel like I've met Tony already because I've met his urine all over the 450 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:24,090 house. I've met his mark all over the house. And I've met his victim, Dempsey, 451 00:27:24,150 --> 00:27:28,010 up close and personal, too. But it was time to go and spend some time with 452 00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:29,830 Hey, Tony. 453 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Hi. Hi, Tony. 454 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,380 I hated seeing Tony in that litter box. 455 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:39,920 It means he's more confident in his own filth than he is with strangers. 456 00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:41,420 Hi, Tony. 457 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,120 Hey, 458 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,320 buddy. 459 00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:52,880 I know you're scared. 460 00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:57,450 Usually when I get down on the floor with a cat, I'm trying to push that 461 00:27:57,450 --> 00:28:01,510 challenge line, to push aggressive cats to see at what point they snap on me. 462 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:09,610 But with a cat like Tony, I'm pushing that challenge line to see at what point 463 00:28:09,610 --> 00:28:12,450 confidence either wanes or comes forward. 464 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:14,330 Ooh, like that. 465 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:17,630 Come here. 466 00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:18,810 Do you want a bit? 467 00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:37,950 I had to experience Tony's full response to me in that bathroom because his body 468 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,990 language, his mannerisms, his reaction to stimulus, to food, to environment. 469 00:28:42,170 --> 00:28:46,250 These are things that you can only get in closed situations like this, and it's 470 00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:47,270 invaluable to me. 471 00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:52,050 So let me start talking about the things that I think we have to start looking 472 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:58,530 at. My thought is it's possible that he's producing testosterone because 473 00:28:58,530 --> 00:29:02,570 the way he marks, the pungency of his pee, 474 00:29:04,419 --> 00:29:06,160 He goes at it with Dempsey. 475 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,660 I think that maybe he's got an undescended testicle. 476 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,560 I think Tony may potentially be cryptorchid. One of his testicles didn't 477 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,040 when he was a kitten. And when they neutered him, they just thought he 478 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,960 have another one. Listen, I'm not a vet. 479 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,400 I'd like you to take Tony to the vet. But I have other things for you guys as 480 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,540 well. All right. I want you to put a litter box right over there. Okay? Right 481 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:30,540 that outlet. 482 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,900 Now, Betty, I want a Dempsey replacement. 483 00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:38,150 Right. You know, ultimately, what we have to do is we have to retire Dempsey. 484 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:40,510 He's that vice that has to go away. 485 00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:46,090 Now, Tony's obsession with Dempsey in itself is not that big a deal, but it is 486 00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:49,430 symptomatic of a much larger issue, and that is his territorial insecurity. 487 00:29:50,110 --> 00:29:53,470 It does go hand in hand with him spraying all over the house. 488 00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:55,430 Now, let's talk about Kitty Jo. 489 00:29:55,870 --> 00:29:57,450 It is his only zone of safety. 490 00:29:57,690 --> 00:29:58,950 He's never marked in there. 491 00:29:59,150 --> 00:30:03,230 Everything feels right to him. So I want to start taking the really significant 492 00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:07,230 parts of home and start bringing them out to the rest of the house. 493 00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:12,650 Very slowly, but our prime directive is to take him to the vet. 494 00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:14,410 We're going to hit this hard, okay? 495 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:17,250 Jackson wants you to find a replacement for Dempsey. 496 00:30:17,610 --> 00:30:20,030 It's not going to work. I mean, how do you replace this? 497 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:26,260 toy that the cat uses for physiological urges as an intact male cat. 498 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:27,460 How do you replace that? 499 00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:36,620 I'm here for my second visit with Cliff and Betty and their cat, Tony. 500 00:30:36,860 --> 00:30:40,540 Now, Tony has a bit of a problem with his little stuffed friend Dempsey, but 501 00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:44,620 he's also spraying, but only into like electrical sockets. And not to mention, 502 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:47,880 these guys still have a screen door in the middle of their house because Tony 503 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,620 will, if given the chance, urinate in any room that they leave the door open. 504 00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:55,840 And I sent him back to the vet because I thought that his hormone levels might 505 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,140 be off the chart because he wasn't fully neutered. 506 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,580 That would explain the spraying all over the house and his behavior with 507 00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:05,120 Dempsey. I'm hoping I go in there and we find out everything's been taken care 508 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,120 of. 509 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Hi, Daddy. Hey, Daddy. How are you? 510 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:10,620 Nice to have you back. 511 00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:13,260 I still got some work to do, huh? 512 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:16,660 We've had a few issues, but, you know, we're working on it. All right, well, 513 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,800 let's talk about it. We have got a cat that I sent to the vet. 514 00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:26,280 Because my hopeful theory was that we had some testosterone spiking going on. 515 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,980 And what did we get out of that? 516 00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:33,720 Turns out he doesn't have testosterone spiking. 517 00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:39,320 So Tony doesn't have high testosterone levels at all? 518 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,240 Not according to the vet. 519 00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:43,600 You tested the blood? 520 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,460 Tested the blood, and they were not present. 521 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,640 Wow. This is all a game changer. 522 00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:53,490 We are starting from square one all the way around. 523 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,590 Everything we thought we knew about Tony, we don't. So it's time to take a 524 00:31:57,590 --> 00:32:01,730 breath and start taking a look at the evidence. The first thing is the video 525 00:32:01,730 --> 00:32:03,070 homework. Let's take a look. 526 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:05,270 What's going on in here? 527 00:32:05,510 --> 00:32:10,270 I'm working on my Ninja Tony kickstick for him and just putting a few touches 528 00:32:10,270 --> 00:32:11,270 it and I'll sew it up. 529 00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:15,230 Great. He has been playing with it and he likes the catnip that's inside the 530 00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:18,590 little ninja star. So this has been a little bit of a help. 531 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,520 I moved the kitty litter box to the dining room, and Tony's checking it out 532 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,520 right now. 533 00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:31,980 Jackson told us that we should move Tony's old cat tree out of the master 534 00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:35,960 bedroom little by little, but I think we probably moved it a little too quickly 535 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,740 and peed on the cat tree and on the wall. 536 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,040 The fun never ends around here. 537 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,390 Well... Maybe he's not this collection of strange behaviors after all. So let's 538 00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:51,830 take a look around the house and maybe I'll see some of it. 539 00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:58,970 So we have two litter boxes over here. Right. The minute he discovered it was 540 00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:01,270 here, boom. He used that predominantly. 541 00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:05,530 We haven't had as much spraying in this area as we've had before. 542 00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:09,920 The thing that's kind of obvious, now anyway, is that when it comes to Tony 543 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,360 peeing around the house, it means he's got to dominate something in this space 544 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,520 in order to feel better. And now, that litter box, not only is it new, but it 545 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,260 has to be marked in order to say, this is mine. It was never about the outlet. 546 00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:28,540 What's driving him is what drives any territorially insecure cat. 547 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,180 It's him creating this boundary around his castle. 548 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,020 Because he's so insecure about those boundaries. 549 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:44,440 So, you know, at the end of the day, you have succeeded in that exercise of 550 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,820 bringing kitty tail forward. 551 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,440 Because really, he's saying, not only is it secure for me, but it relieves a 552 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,440 little bit of anxiety. 553 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Even if he approaches it kind of with a little caution? He does. 554 00:33:56,220 --> 00:34:00,780 A little bit. If there's anybody in the vicinity, like even myself, he kind of 555 00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:02,900 like is hesitant, but then he'll use it. But. 556 00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:08,630 What have you been doing for the past eight years every time he walks into 557 00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:09,630 corner? 558 00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:13,610 I sneak and check and see what he's doing. 559 00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:19,150 Tony's got to discover his cat mojo. He's got to walk around this house, and 560 00:34:19,150 --> 00:34:24,070 he's got to own it. Betty can't do this hovering behavior. We have got to let 561 00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:25,070 him own this space. 562 00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:26,610 She's got to learn to step away. 563 00:34:26,889 --> 00:34:29,810 I can't hover anymore. Is that what you're telling me? No more hovering? Oh, 564 00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:30,810 thought that was a given. 565 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,760 I was actually really embarrassed. 566 00:34:34,179 --> 00:34:38,400 One more. Nom, nom, nom, nom. I don't think I really realized that I was, you 567 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,639 know, mothering Tony too much. 568 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,020 Okay, on to Kitty Jail or Kitty Lump. 569 00:34:46,830 --> 00:34:50,830 It was time for me to uncover the kitty bump in the middle of the bed. Now the 570 00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:54,969 last time I came here, I was in the bathroom with him and he was sitting in 571 00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:55,649 litter box. 572 00:34:55,650 --> 00:34:59,270 One of the most fearful places for a cat to be. Because a cat who will choose to 573 00:34:59,270 --> 00:35:03,630 hide in their own filth is so insecure that they'd rather be in their own 574 00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:05,310 box surrounded by their own scent. 575 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:06,990 Look at Betty. 576 00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:08,830 The hover. 577 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,520 Yeah. Yeah. 578 00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:15,480 Yeah. I looked over to Betty as I was pulling the covers back, and she was 579 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,280 literally looming over the top of the bed. It's all one big, very insecure, 580 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,220 codependent, enabled package. 581 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,660 Hello, Mr. Boy. 582 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,040 Hi. 583 00:35:33,940 --> 00:35:35,640 Look, I bring your little friend with me. 584 00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:37,540 I bring my little friend. 585 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,900 I don't think I really realized how much I was mothering Tony and making him 586 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:43,940 even more insecure. 587 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,080 It was definitely an eye -opener for me. 588 00:35:46,940 --> 00:35:49,360 The last time, he was a petrified cat. 589 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,700 This time, at least, he's up on the bed. He's beginning to make brave choices. 590 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:59,340 But he's only going to make as brave a choice as his people let him make. And 591 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:00,520 that's where our work starts. 592 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,500 We've got a lot more homework to do. 593 00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:07,900 The first thing is no more Dempsey. 594 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,470 Listen, keep him up out of the way. 595 00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:14,730 I've got something else here for you. You're used to a paintbrush, I'm sure. I 596 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:18,830 would just like you to paint a portrait of Tony. I want her to make a portrait 597 00:36:18,830 --> 00:36:24,370 of Tony as who he should be, who she wants him to be, full of confidence. But 598 00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:27,850 Betty can't change her own behavior, then this whole process is sunk. 599 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:35,490 In order to get Tony taking this world and being the cat that I think he can 600 00:36:35,690 --> 00:36:37,690 I want you to keep Kitty Jail open from now on. 601 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400 Next time I come back here, I want to see him out and about, and I think that 602 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,400 that's very possible. 603 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,840 It's important for both Betty and Cliff to just take the training wheels off 604 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000 this cat behaviorally and allow him to be who I think he's been waiting to be 605 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000 for 12 years. 606 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,840 Have a great couple of weeks, and I'll see you soon. 607 00:36:56,260 --> 00:37:00,820 Tony needs a lot of attention, so I don't know if I'll necessarily be able 608 00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:04,380 kind of back off a little bit from Tony, but I'll give it my best shot. 609 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,760 He doesn't want to let go. 610 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,560 Tony. I'm sorry, baby. 611 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,340 Going in for my final visit with Betty and Cliff and the cat Tony. This cat 612 00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:25,200 really had me jumping through a hoop. 613 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,700 I thought that Tony was clearly a cat that had hormonal issues. I was wrong. 614 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,720 I thought it had to be something to do with something coming out of electrical 615 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:39,480 sockets, and it turned out to be a very simple cry for help. Tell me, guys, how 616 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,480 are you? 617 00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:46,200 Um... Um, I think we've made some good progress with Tony. 618 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:47,980 Really? Yeah. Whoa! 619 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,220 We've been diligent with our homework. 620 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,000 Now we leave the screen door open all the time, and we started to see him come 621 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,740 out, tail up, walk around confidently with his head up. 622 00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:01,390 Tony. Yeah. 623 00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:02,690 Tony's been doing this. 624 00:38:03,250 --> 00:38:04,250 That's fantastic. 625 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:09,130 The fact that he's been so confident, you know, makes me feel a lot better 626 00:38:09,130 --> 00:38:13,630 the situation, that I can kind of kick back and not be, you know, such a mama 627 00:38:13,630 --> 00:38:16,490 hand to him and smothering him like I was before. 628 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:19,790 Did you even see yourself as doing that before? 629 00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:21,410 No, I didn't until you pointed it out. 630 00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:22,970 Oh! Oh! 631 00:38:24,830 --> 00:38:29,190 She's just stepping back and letting him be Tony. And because of that, he 632 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:33,250 doesn't feel that need to protect her anymore. So with a simple addition of 633 00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:37,850 litter boxes and the subtraction of Betty's over mothering, this house is 634 00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:41,710 free. I really want to take a look at your last week's homework. 635 00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:44,510 Working on my painting right now. 636 00:38:45,110 --> 00:38:51,090 Tony has snagged. 637 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:54,110 Dempsey and brought him into my office. 638 00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:56,350 Uh -oh. There it is. 639 00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:59,350 I'm going to take Dempsey away right now. 640 00:39:01,090 --> 00:39:02,390 Let go, Tony. 641 00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:07,170 I know you're upset. 642 00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:10,510 Great. Good work. You said no? 643 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:12,070 No more Dempsey. 644 00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:14,070 Here's Ninja Tony instead. 645 00:39:14,850 --> 00:39:17,490 Really, really great work. Thank you. 646 00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:23,490 Now we have Ninja Tony who has what? The smell of catnip around him. It's a 647 00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:27,570 totally different association, and Ninja Tony is built completely differently. 648 00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:31,730 And that way, the activity is not going to continue the way it did with Dempsey. 649 00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:34,830 All right, now let's take a look around the house, shall we? Sure. Come on. 650 00:39:36,090 --> 00:39:37,990 And let's start right here. 651 00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:39,890 Oh, that's so cool. 652 00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:46,290 Betty, the look on his face here, no one's just so present. 653 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:48,050 He's been released. Yeah. 654 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,940 There is a centered presence that she painted in this cat's face that didn't 655 00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:58,160 exist the first time I had met him. And it was what she had hoped for for him, 656 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:02,140 confidence. I mean, was that the vibe you were going for? Yeah, the grip that, 657 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:05,660 you know, the whole insecurity had on him. Now he's kind of been released. 658 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:12,360 He has been. I mean, honestly, to me, this is, yeah, if he was walking around, 659 00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:13,600 he'd be tail up, right? 660 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,040 Yep. That is absolutely, it's really, it's stunning. 661 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,900 And just as art, not just as a symbol, you know. And this one here, let's talk 662 00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:24,900 about this for a second. 663 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,180 Yeah, this would be some cat mojo right here, man. 664 00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:31,720 Because that right there, that's our hunter. 665 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,980 That's, yeah, he's like chilling, you know. Yeah, but he's also, he's got that 666 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:41,560 look of like, I'm Tony. Oh, yeah. Hear me roar. I think that's a confident 667 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,040 Exactly. Yes. See the difference here? We have neutral, relief, and then he's 668 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,819 able to. 669 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:48,820 Come into himself. 670 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:50,900 This is gorgeous. 671 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,640 By the way, that one's for you. 672 00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:55,140 Oh, get out of here. I'm not getting out of here. Oh, are you serious? 673 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,020 Yeah. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. 674 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,160 That's so amazing. 675 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,800 Oh, my God. 676 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:05,600 Hey, you helped Tony get his mojo. 677 00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:08,520 Oh, God. He's got his mojo, man. 678 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:11,850 And now I got it. Thank you again so much. 679 00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:18,290 The double view of him here, the release and then the assumption of Mojo, it's 680 00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:21,570 just, that's worth the price of admission right there. It really is. 681 00:41:21,850 --> 00:41:23,690 Great work. Great work, Betty. Thank you. 682 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:30,710 Behind here, we still have plastic wrap. I feel like we can just say goodbye to 683 00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:34,330 this stuff. So you guys ready for that? I'm ready. Take it off. Drum roll, 684 00:41:34,350 --> 00:41:35,350 please. 685 00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:40,080 It's a big moment. Yes. 686 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:42,820 This cat's not peeing on us anymore. 687 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,980 Let's take it off and move forward. 688 00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:46,460 Let's move on. 689 00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:51,800 Our last stop was Kitty Jail. Now that's what we want to see. Good Tony. 690 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,960 I'm going to step in just to say hi. 691 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,340 Hello, my little boy. 692 00:41:57,980 --> 00:41:58,980 Hello. 693 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,380 He's so good. 694 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,280 Just to see Tony accepting pets, purring, relaxing into my hand, closing 695 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,760 eyes. This is a cat who has changed. 696 00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:12,180 Yeah. 697 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,840 Actually, very different. 698 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:16,900 I'm amazed that he let you hold him. 699 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,880 It was a big step forward because if you remember the first day that I met Tony, 700 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,820 I couldn't even get him anywhere near me. And today, he was self -assured 701 00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:29,640 that I picked him up, I put him in my arms. He was a normal cat. 702 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,500 I'm really proud of him. You should be, too. Yeah. I'm amazed that he let you 703 00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:34,820 hold him. No, absolutely. 704 00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:40,300 Because usually he would just totally freak out. We have Tony coming up and 705 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:42,220 hanging out in the world. Big deal. 706 00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:46,300 We have got the plastic wrap off the outlets. 707 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,520 We've got Tony using a litter box. 708 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,280 What more can we ask for? We've got one more thing. There is no way that I'm 709 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,720 leaving this house today without that screen door coming down. Go ahead. 710 00:42:58,260 --> 00:42:59,700 Cliff, my pleasure. 711 00:43:02,650 --> 00:43:03,650 It's over. 712 00:43:03,850 --> 00:43:05,230 They don't need it anymore. 713 00:43:05,530 --> 00:43:07,090 Tony doesn't need it anymore. 714 00:43:07,450 --> 00:43:08,448 All right. 715 00:43:08,450 --> 00:43:09,450 Let's do it. 716 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:12,830 Here we go, man. 717 00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:14,930 Oh, this. Yay! 718 00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:22,410 This is excitement right here. You guys have gone from kitty jail to 719 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:27,410 kitty home. This was a symbol of trust. Here, we don't need this door anymore. 720 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:28,510 We trust you. 721 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,660 Tony's just a cat now. He's a cat. He's not a scaredy cat. He's not running from 722 00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:39,560 shadows anymore. He's not peeing around the house. And he's not doing 723 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640 inappropriate things to stuffed animals anymore. He's just a cat. 724 00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:44,640 Thank you so much, Jackson. Absolutely. 725 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,840 I'm not a bad cat. 726 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,280 I'm just misunderstood. 61867

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