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♪ MTV ♪
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[rock music]
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[Snake] Our second album,
Slave to the Grind,
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it debuts at number one.
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♪ If you're slave to the grind ♪
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We're getting ready
to go on tour,
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and we were doing a photoshoot
with a good friend of ours,
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a real friend, Lonn Friend,
for RIP Magazine.
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We're shooting a Skid Row
session with the band
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and Sebastian and I go, "Dudes,
you wanna hear something?"
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And I popped the
cassette in, and they-
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♪...lights out, it's less ♪
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And Bas goes, "Fuck!"
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Nirvana.
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♪ Entertain us ♪
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♪ I feel stupid and contagious ♪
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I'll never forget Rachel
looking at me and going,
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"Things are about to change."
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[slide projector clicking]
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[Vicky] I remember this one
particular meeting.
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Teen Spirit has come out.
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The marketing people are about,
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and I remember them saying,
"Don't do anything.
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It's working."
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And the record just exploded.
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[Katherine] Once a band
does well,
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A&R people start signing bands
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that are like that, which is how
the hair metal scene happened,
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and that's how the grunge scene
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got bigger and
bigger and bigger.
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[Vicky] Everybody's
flying to Seattle,
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like trying to
find the next band.
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And a lot of bands out
of Seattle got signed.
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♪ But I'm gonna break ♪
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♪ I'm gonna break my ♪
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♪ I'm gonna break my
rusty cage and run ♪
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[Vicky] All of a sudden MTV--
- ♪ I'm going hungry ♪
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♪ I'm going hungry ♪
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[Vicky] It's nonstop Temple
of the Dog, Alice in Chains.
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♪ I'm the man in the box ♪
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Pearl Jam.
- ♪ Even flow ♪
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♪ Thoughts arrive
like butterflies ♪
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[Riki] A long time ago,
it's like a lot of the bands
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came from L.A.,
but now it seems like
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a lot of the great bands are
coming from the Seattle area.
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And Pearl Jam is
one of those bands.
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And we're a great band.
- [Mike laughs]
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[Riki] You're a great band.
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[Lonn] Groups like Pearl Jam
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were writing really
strong songs.
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So you can't get away
with fluff anymore.
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The competition's too fierce.
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♪ I nearly lost you there ♪
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[Snake] This new sound was
saying something different
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than our collective hard
rock brand of music.
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And it was a whole
different culture.
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Grunge was an
anti-rockstar thing.
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They were more about
music connection,
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just a little more thoughtful.
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So all these like crazy getup
outfits, that was like gone.
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You're not gonna see
Eddie Vedder in buttless chaps.
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Thank God.
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[Wayne] Grunge, in a
lot of the videos,
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were exactly what
other videos were,
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but that sound and the
look and the attitude
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took it into a whole
different direction.
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With metal, it was
all about, again,
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the exuberance, the excitement.
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I started watching
November Rain and it's like,
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a guy jumping through
a wedding cake
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when it starts to rain.
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That absurdity and the
largeness of it, it's too much.
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♪ Take your time ♪
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[Wayne] You can see then
Nirvana coming up
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with a dog with
the bite collar on.
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It's the anti-video.
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So do they destroy what's
going on with the metal?
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No, but they just said,
"We don't wanna do that."
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I liked a lot of
those bands. A lot.
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But you know,
there was no reason
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to throw the rest
of us in the trash.
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[Riki] I've never heard of
a band getting a bigger buzz
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quicker than this band, Nirvana.
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Hi, Riki.
- First of all, love the suit.
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Thanks a lot.
- Be very comfortable
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on planes, I think.
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[Lonn] People point to grunge,
specifically Nirvana,
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as wielding some sort of
Game of Thrones sword
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and cutting the heart
out of heavy metal music.
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That's ludicrous.
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If you say that
grunge killed metal,
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you're a fucking idiot.
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If you wanna talk about
bands that you say
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kill your music scene,
and you're thinking, well,
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what about the biggest
artist, Nirvana?
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Guess what, people, you're
not saying the G word,
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and that's Garth.
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[Garth yells]
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♪ I've got friends
in low places ♪
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[Lonn] In '92, Nirvana, Pearl
Jam, and Red Hot Chili Peppers
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sold a combined
9 million albums.
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Garth Brooks sold 12.6 million.
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[crowd cheering]
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♪ Drove to the church ♪
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[Riki] Got to be a point
you didn't even care
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about being the number one
if you could be number two
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under Garth, because you
were never gonna beat Garth.
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♪ Life is not tried it
is merely survived ♪
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[Riki] And pretty soon, all
those people that were going
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to all those rock and roll shows
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were going to country shows.
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[crowd cheering]
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And pretty soon you
started having these
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very independent
strong female artists.
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♪ And I'm here to remind you ♪
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[Riki] So having the
Alanis Morissette...
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♪ When you went away ♪
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♪ Give me one reason
to stay here ♪
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[Riki] Tracy Chapman.
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♪ I never said nothing ♪
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[Riki] Liz Phair.
- ♪ I've been a bad, bad ♪
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♪ If it makes you happy ♪
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♪ Dreams last for... ♪
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♪ Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
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♪ Nothing compares to you ♪
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♪ Zombie, zombie, zombie ♪
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[Riki] Strong women that
had something to say,
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and they had their
own festivals.
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We had our rock festivals,
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they had their Liz Fair
festivals and--
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Lilith Fair.
- What did I say, Lilla Fair?
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Liz Fair.
- Liz Fair?
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[Crew Member]
You meant Lilith Fair.
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Yeah.
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♪ The water is wide ♪
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[Riki] Lilith Fair.
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Those are two totally
different things, aren't they?
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You know what's
interesting about genres?
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When one shifts and changes,
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it needs to be filled
in by something else.
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In the same way
that Poison was having
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Nothing But a Good Time,
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Temple of the Dog was
going on a Hunger Strike.
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OK, what's to say
one kills the other?
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["Still of the Night"
by Whitesnake plays]
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What killed the Strip?
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Hair metal had a hand
in taking itself out.
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♪ Whoa, after the rain
washes away the tears ♪
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[Vicky] As metal evolved,
a lot of bands didn't get it,
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and they thought like the image
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was the most important thing.
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♪ And that's all right ♪
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♪ 'Cause that's the way I am ♪
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[Janet] We were doing this
sort of rebellious
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but fun kind of music.
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There wasn't a lot of
darkness or anything to it.
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♪ And I ♪
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[Janet] A lot of
colorful antics going on.
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♪ Don't say goodbye ♪
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♪ Say you're gonna
stay forever ♪
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Like M tley Cr e's not
necessarily the best band,
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the best instrumentalists,
but what they were doing
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early on was authentic.
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What diminished over the course
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of the decade was
that authenticity.
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[Katherine]
When hair metal bands
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were no longer
the next big thing,
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there was a backlash.
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You know, you become
a laughingstock.
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A lot of those bands who
went from playing arenas
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and theaters were back in clubs.
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Some of them didn't
survive at all.
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[Kip] MTV made a left turn.
They just stopped playing it.
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That was the media force.
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I couldn't get a gig,
lost my record deal,
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lost the publishing,
everything was gone.
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I was sitting in Rick Krim's
office when somebody came in
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and said, "Hey, man, you got
the new Metallica video?"
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And it was Nothing Else Matters.
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♪ Nothing else matters ♪
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And I saw Rick's nervous
face, usher the video out,
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making sure I wouldn't go,
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"Hey, man, let me check out
the new Metallica video."
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♪ Never cared for
what they know ♪
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[Kip] Metallica throwing darts
at my poster in the video,
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I didn't typically
think it's cool
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to slag off your
fellow musician.
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[Beavis laughing]
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Hey, Butt-Head, check it out.
I'm going as a wuss.
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[Beavis and Butt-Head laughing]
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♪ She's only 17, whoo, ah ♪
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[Kip] Our name was toxic.
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This was very clear before
Beavis and Butt-Head
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and after Beavis and Butt-Head.
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This is cool, huh, guys?
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Shut up, Stewart.
We're trying to watch TV.
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Yeah, yeah.
- [Beavis and Butt-Head laugh]
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[Kip] I mean, I was on the
scene of the crime.
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I had my T-shirt
on Stewart's chest.
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I am the guy that represents
everything that sucks.
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I lost all my confidence.
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It really shook me to the
core of my being, you know.
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What the hell is your
mom's problem, Stewart?
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Yeah. Your mom sucks.
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[Janet] We were no longer a
viable musical entity.
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It was horrifying.
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There was inner turmoil
in the band a little bit
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because we didn't
know what to do.
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I didn't see it going anywhere.
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So we called it quits.
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I needed to do other
things that I liked doing
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other than music.
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A lot of soul-searching,
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spent a lot of time with my dog,
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played a lot of golf.
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[Interviewer] There's not
a big audience for that.
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What do you see for yourself
in the next five years?
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Well, I don't know.
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All of a sudden I felt
it had just been ripped
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out from underneath
me, you know?
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And I was devastated because
I had nothing else to my life.
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Nothing. It was all
that mattered to me.
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So I'm not gonna let
that happen again.
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So, you know, I don't know.
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[laughs] We'll see.
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[birds chirping]
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All right, I see a gem in here.
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Our first single,
Edge of a Broken Heart.
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I wonder if this
even plays anymore.
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We look serious, don't we?
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'Cause it was for a metal
magazine and we had to be...
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bitchin'.
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Looked like my closet
threw up on me.
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"Vixen, the Return
of Girl Group Rock."
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We brought something
back apparently
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that I didn't know
had gone anywhere.
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Ooh, "Wild Women's Den."
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So my mom actually
got a lot of these.
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She'd go up to the
counter with all these
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like rock magazines,
and she would go,
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"Oh, my daughter, my daughter's
in one of these bands."
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You could see my amalgam
fillings in my molars.
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So I went and I got
'em all replaced
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with like
tooth-colored fillings.
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It says I'm 5'7", 128 pounds.
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OK.
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Jan.
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She's one of the nicest
people you will ever meet
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in your entire life.
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She was reforming the band,
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wanted to get all the
originals back together.
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We were all excited.
We were talking on the phone.
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We were getting through
all of the old issues,
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just knocking 'em out of
the way one at a time.
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And we finally got to the point
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where we were ready to do it.
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We were gonna make
an announcement.
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And she calls up and says,
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"Well, we're gonna have to delay
this for a little bit."
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It turned out she
had ovarian cancer.
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To make matters worse, it was
stage four ovarian cancer.
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A couple weeks
later she was gone.
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So, yeah.
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But at least we had that.
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We had the moments to
kind of get through
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a lot of old cobwebs
that needed to be removed.
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But yeah, she was
something else. Miss her.
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[Vicky] They say a manager is
blamed for everything
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and credited with nothing.
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But for me, it was like,
not just Guns N' Roses.
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♪ Welcome to the jungle ♪
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♪ Don't need nothin' ♪
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[Vicky] It was Poison.
- ♪ But a good time ♪
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♪ He's the one they
call Dr. Feelgood ♪
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[Vicky] And it was Motley Crue.
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Um... you know.
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I had these hopes it would
be forever with these bands,
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but it was always sort
of the same scenario
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where I would develop them,
and then some corporate
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record guy would swoop in
and steal the band somehow.
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So I decided that I wanted
to be an A&R person.
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The guys are just
wild and crazy guys,
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but I'm really proud of
'em, and best of luck.
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When they brought me to Geffen,
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I was considered a street scout.
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I went out every night
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and just looked at
bands in the clubs.
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Geffen was such that I could
sign one band a year on my own,
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and then if I wanted
to sign another band,
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I had to go through Tom Zutaut.
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I was Tom's last priority.
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I would sit in his waiting
room for hours sometimes,
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waiting for him to like
take a meeting with me.
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It was such a
male-dominated culture,
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but I kind of tried
to be one of the guys.
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I think that's why I was
able to get as far as I did
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in the music business.
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Getting the paycheck was great,
and being able to sign bands
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to Geffen Records, it was great.
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But most nights I felt like
I was having a heart attack
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because it was like so insane.
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[motorcycle engine revving]
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This is West Hollywood!
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[Speaker] Where are you guys
gonna be tomorrow night?
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We'll be at Camp
Hollywood tomorrow night
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if you wanna show up.
- OK, I'm up.
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[Vicky] Well, I was 15 when
I first started partying.
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$5.
- Five bucks? Ooh, baby.
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I would go to the
Rainbow and have a couple
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of Long Island iced teas
and be out of my mind.
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I don't know what
they have in that,
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but it's some strong shit.
[laughs]
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I had met a doctor that
would write me a prescription
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for 30 Quaaludes a month.
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It got to the point
where hangovers were
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lasting three days.
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It's fun until it's
not fun anymore.
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And once it's not fun anymore,
it's never fun again.
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I started walking dogs for
a living. It got really bad.
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The question in my mind was
always, is this all there is?
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[crowd cheering]
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[man] Welcome to the
Crue, Corabi!
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[crowd cheering]
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[rock music]
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[John] They put out
a press release
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saying that John Corabi's
the new singer for Motley.
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For a bit, it was pretty cool.
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♪ He's the one they
call Dr. Feelgood ♪
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♪ He's the one that makes
you feel all right ♪
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It was fun, it was neurotic,
it was hair-raising.
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Every adjective you could
think of, that was Motley Crue.
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♪ I'm on my way ♪
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♪ Home sweet home ♪
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Ticket sales were bad,
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but everybody was in
that grind at that point.
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The only bands that were
really selling tickets
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were all the Seattle bands.
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We'd started working on
the record Motley Crue.
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I don't really see
it like as Motley
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intentionally trying to
write a grunge record.
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[rock music]
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We just jammed.
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It was four snot-nosed shitheads
sitting in a room together.
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♪ Everybody wants a
piece of the action ♪
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And it just kind of
turned it into the record
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that it turned into.
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♪ Oh, life, it's
misunderstood them ♪
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♪ So close your eyes and dream ♪
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I love the record, I love the
music that we wrote together
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and I think it was
a brilliant record.
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[mellow guitar music]
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♪ Oh ♪
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♪ Monkey business, slippin' on
the track, monkey business ♪
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[Snake] That thing that
Rachel had mentioned
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in my mom's house,
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it's gonna be trouble, we
certainly saw that happening.
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[Kurt Loder] Skid Row frontman
Sebastian Bach became
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rock's latest embarrassment
this week when a picture
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of him wearing a T-shirt
with the declaration
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"AIDS kills fags dead"
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appeared in
"Metal Edge" magazine.
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[Snake] We had the
horrible T-shirt.
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The shirt that I was
wearing, as you might know,
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says, "AIDS," it's like the-
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00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:08,155
Raid logo.
- It's the Raid, you know,
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Raid, [laughs]
it's pretty harsh.
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[Snake] Things started to
get a bit tenuous.
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After touring 17 months,
we could not coexist,
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mainly with Sebastian,
so we ended up
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getting two different
buses for the band.
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But I would go back and
forth with Sebastian's bus
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just to try to keep some sort
of glue, some sort of bond.
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Who the fuck did that, man?
Who the fuck did that?
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Was that you, cock sucker?
- [crowd clamoring]
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[Snake] We had the incident
in Springfield, Massachusetts
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of Sebastian throwing
a bottle back
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and hitting a female
audience member.
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You know what I'm gonna do?
Just get out of the fucking way!
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[rock music]
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[crowd yelling]
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[Snake] The worst part about
that is someone
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got permanently injured
because of someone's actions
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that were in our band.
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The crowds like hated us.
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We were getting spit on.
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We were getting bottles
of piss thrown at us.
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It was obvious.
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When we got done with that tour,
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we all went our separate ways.
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We didn't say a
word to each other.
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I was having massive
panic and anxiety attacks.
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This black tidal wave
kept just building
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and building and building.
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The stigma is, you're crazy.
Put him away.
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And that they did.
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[somber rock music]
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[Kip] I can't get a deal.
Lost my deal.
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No one's gonna sign me.
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00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:13,045
I was forced to redefine
myself as a musician.
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00:20:14,581 --> 00:20:18,050
I moved to Santa Fe,
New Mexico, bought a house,
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00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:20,052
put a studio in the house,
and thought,
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00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,456
I'm gonna redevelop
the way I create music.
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00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:29,962
Got three-quarters of the way
through my first solo album
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00:20:30,029 --> 00:20:33,300
and then my wife got in
a car accident and died.
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It was fucking surreal.
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00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,142
There was a lot of
praying going on, man.
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00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:49,148
I did the same thing
I always did, I just...
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went back to the music.
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[piano music]
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00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:02,862
It was at that
moment that I said,
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there's nothing else
here for me to do,
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so I'm gonna finally
try to do the one thing
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I've always wanted to do,
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which is write orchestral music.
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[piano music]
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Learn it on their term.
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And I'm gonna compose...
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classical music.
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[classical music playing]
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The Motley fans,
they're a strange breed.
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You wanna hit all these things?
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00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:52,745
[man] Yeah, if that's OK,
I appreciate it.
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00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,982
How's that?
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[John] Some of the fans were
OK with me joining.
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These two? And this?
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[man] You don't have to do all
that too, if you don't want to.
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00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:03,556
[John] And then there was
other ones that just
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00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,057
weren't gonna have it at all.
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00:22:05,124 --> 00:22:08,060
I never saw anybody with a sign,
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00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:11,831
like, " fuck you," or
"where's Vince," you know?
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00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:15,001
Everybody that did come
came to have a good time.
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[metal music]
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[Lonn] It was a really
substantial record.
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00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,143
It's hard for a
frontman to leave,
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00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:26,479
and for you to have success
with a new frontman.
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00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,247
It's not done.
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00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:31,884
And Motley had Vince Neil
since, you know, day one.
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00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,056
[John] The studio record prior
to mine sold 12 million.
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00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:41,160
You know, mine didn't
even do a million.
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00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:46,032
We had started working on
what became Generation Swine.
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As easy, and fun, and creative
as the first record was,
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00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:57,376
the next record was the
complete antithesis of that.
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None of us were getting along.
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00:22:59,178 --> 00:23:01,247
There was some rumors
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00:23:01,313 --> 00:23:03,382
going around that maybe
they were talking to Vince,
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00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:05,518
maybe they weren't.
447
00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:09,689
There was definitely some
tension with a lot of the fans.
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00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:16,228
And, the minute they brought
Vince back, it was all gone.
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00:23:17,263 --> 00:23:18,397
And I get it.
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00:23:18,465 --> 00:23:21,200
[guitar music]
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00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,537
I was devastated
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that I wasn't gonna
continue on with the band,
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but at the same time,
I was relieved.
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It's those four guys,
as it should be.
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And I'll always be that
little asterisk on the side.
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[guitar music]
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My mom and I.
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Is a...
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affectionately
known as Mama Snake.
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00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:04,276
And she was like
the band mom and
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we would be sleeping
on her floor,
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00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:07,780
we'd party 'till four
o'clock in the morning
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00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:10,249
at her house,
she never said a word.
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00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:12,585
I'd be like, "Ma, food!"
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And she'd get up at
2:30 in the morning
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and make us food,
it was incredible.
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00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,858
My dad...
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00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:21,260
left when I was two.
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00:24:21,327 --> 00:24:24,430
My brother, Rick,
was kind of, like,
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the one who was raising me,
if you will.
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00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:29,035
He was like my hero.
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He got drafted to Vietnam.
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The first line in 18 and Life,
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00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:38,978
"Ricky was a young boy,
he had a heart of stone,"
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was written about him.
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00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:50,890
Around the age of
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12 years old,
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00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:56,896
I was molested by some
boys in my neighborhood.
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00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:59,899
People I trusted, who were
a little older than me.
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00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:03,235
My body
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00:25:03,302 --> 00:25:05,037
and brain
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00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:06,305
shut down
483
00:25:07,974 --> 00:25:12,244
to make this as
unreal as possible.
484
00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:15,715
I viewed it from a
third-person standpoint.
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00:25:15,782 --> 00:25:18,985
So, I saw it happen.
486
00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,419
But it didn't happen to me.
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00:25:24,323 --> 00:25:28,027
The person that was on stage,
and is on stage,
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00:25:28,094 --> 00:25:30,029
is mostly a character
that was developed
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00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:33,833
as a defense
mechanism for fear of
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what other people are
going to think of me.
491
00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:41,908
I ended up in a hospital because
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00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:43,275
I had had enough.
493
00:25:44,944 --> 00:25:46,946
I still didn't have
the one key thing,
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00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:48,180
was how do you fight it?
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00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:51,684
I went to see this doctor,
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00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:55,187
and he was the
first psychiatrist
497
00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:57,890
that sat down and had
a conversation with me.
498
00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:04,196
So, I started treatment, and
499
00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:07,099
I started, I was dedicated
with my medicine.
500
00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:10,903
I was dedicated with therapy.
501
00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:14,907
And, sure enough, man,
slowly, but surely.
502
00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:17,610
And the more it helped,
the more I went to therapy,
503
00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:20,747
I started coming back.
504
00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:26,786
I am completely aware,
acutely aware,
505
00:26:26,853 --> 00:26:29,088
of how lucky and blessed I am
506
00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:30,757
for all that I've been given.
507
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,764
♪ Turn on the TV,
'cause I got nowhere to go ♪
508
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:39,832
You know, you gotta go out,
and...
509
00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:41,634
you've gotta perform,
and entertain people.
510
00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:43,636
That's your job.
511
00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:47,573
♪ A 13-year-old boy
robs a store so he can eat ♪
512
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,275
[Snake] But that's the thing
that means the most.
513
00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,843
That's why I'm here.
514
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,245
You know, that's
why we're all here.
515
00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:55,114
We're not punching the clock,
that's one thing.
516
00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,215
Like, we don't mail it in.
517
00:26:57,349 --> 00:26:59,351
I get to go out and, you know,
518
00:26:59,418 --> 00:27:00,552
with my brothers.
519
00:27:03,489 --> 00:27:06,192
[crowd cheering]
520
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,368
[Vicky] I was really upset
for a long time.
521
00:27:20,072 --> 00:27:21,440
At some point, you realize you,
522
00:27:21,507 --> 00:27:23,976
you're gonna run outta money.
523
00:27:24,043 --> 00:27:27,146
I wanted a family,
I wanted to be a mom.
524
00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:29,548
I wanted some other things.
525
00:27:31,117 --> 00:27:34,120
I decided to go back to school.
526
00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:37,656
I enjoyed using
that side of my brain.
527
00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:44,230
You study, you do the
work, you take your A,
528
00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:46,232
and you say, "Yeah!"
529
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,971
It's exactly what I
hoped it would be.
530
00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:55,307
I go home, I do what I want,
spend time with my family.
531
00:27:55,374 --> 00:27:58,077
[guitar music]
532
00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:08,520
In 2013,
533
00:28:08,587 --> 00:28:09,856
I met Justin.
534
00:28:11,657 --> 00:28:14,093
And just hit it off.
535
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,864
You know, sparks flying,
it was crazy.
536
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:20,199
We went to Vegas,
537
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,768
and we got married.
538
00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,503
Everybody was like, "What?"
539
00:28:26,272 --> 00:28:29,341
["Your Place In The Sun"
by Janet Gardner playing]
540
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,215
[Janet] He's this
amazing guitarist.
541
00:28:36,282 --> 00:28:37,483
Great writer.
542
00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:40,619
We've put out three albums.
543
00:28:40,686 --> 00:28:42,254
♪ Don't waste your time
on their petty ways ♪
544
00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:44,190
[Janet] We're working on
album number four.
545
00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:48,060
I can't even tell you
546
00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:50,029
how good it feels
547
00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:53,532
to have the person that you
love the most in the world
548
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:57,669
also be your absolute favorite
musical partner in the world.
549
00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:01,808
[metal music]
550
00:29:08,781 --> 00:29:10,416
This is...
551
00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:12,651
the building I lived
in with Guns N' Roses,
552
00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:14,753
when I managed them.
553
00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:17,256
It's this one, it's
at the bottom, here.
554
00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,827
Hey.
- You wanna come in?
555
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:22,428
Yeah, let us in.
556
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:24,563
Looking back on it,
I didn't realize
557
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:26,933
how crazy it really was.
558
00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:30,002
Now, it's, like,
I have a lawyer,
559
00:29:30,069 --> 00:29:31,637
and she makes me wrap
560
00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:34,240
everything really tightly
in paper.
561
00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,008
You know what your
kryptonite is?
562
00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:39,812
Your kryptonite is musicians.
563
00:29:39,879 --> 00:29:42,514
You lived with the whole
band in this apartment?
564
00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:44,516
Yeah.
- It is very small.
565
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,618
Could you, sorry.
566
00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:48,955
[Vicky] I've, like, put up with
so much bullshit in my life
567
00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:51,457
that I'm not willing to
put up with it anymore.
568
00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:02,568
Everybody hits a bottom to quit.
569
00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:06,772
Getting sober
570
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,208
was the hardest thing
I've ever done in my life.
571
00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:12,678
I cried every day
for, like, six months.
572
00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:15,814
It was awful.
573
00:30:15,882 --> 00:30:19,385
By the grace of God,
I'm sober and I'm still here.
574
00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:23,522
A lot of my counterparts aren't.
575
00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:26,658
This wall has, like,
all the bands' names on it.
576
00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:30,329
That have been in The Rainbow.
577
00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,365
In AA, they talk about the
reason at the core
578
00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:38,370
of your being why you
are doing these things.
579
00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:41,240
Which is horrifying, you know?
580
00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:46,245
OK, why do these people
treat me like a doormat?
581
00:30:46,312 --> 00:30:48,047
It's like, you know,
582
00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,883
I had to really reinvent myself
583
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:53,685
and find my own
self-esteem to like
584
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:55,787
move forward in this game.
585
00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,028
I wanna mention a couple people
586
00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:04,563
who were really responsible
for taking this derelict,
587
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:06,765
fucked up, dysfunctional band,
588
00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:09,035
and seeing something
in it early on.
589
00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:11,203
It was Vicky Hamilton,
who tried to manage us
590
00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:12,771
with all her heart.
591
00:31:12,838 --> 00:31:14,373
[Vicky] Slash and
Steven thanked me
592
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,707
at the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame.
593
00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:18,277
I wanna thank Vicky Hamilton.
594
00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:21,380
That was the first time
there had been any kind of
595
00:31:21,447 --> 00:31:23,782
acknowledgement that
I had helped them.
596
00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:26,518
[playing Sweet Child O' Mine]
597
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,022
[Vicky] I do know what I did.
598
00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:33,559
And, to me, it doesn't matter
what other people believe,
599
00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,128
or say, or anything like that.
600
00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:38,364
I know what I did.
601
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:40,032
Slash knows what I did,
602
00:31:40,099 --> 00:31:43,002
because he was there doing
it with me, you know?
603
00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:55,581
[John] I guess I was around 50.
604
00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:58,784
And I was having like
this midlife crisis.
605
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:00,619
My dad called me.
606
00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:04,957
And I was kind of
taking stock in my life.
607
00:32:05,024 --> 00:32:06,758
I was sitting there
talking to him,
608
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,261
and I was saying
things like, you know,
609
00:32:09,328 --> 00:32:12,331
all the shit
that I've done, you know,
610
00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:15,501
the Scream, and Motley, and
611
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:18,237
Ratt, and Union,
612
00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:20,106
and I'm 50 years old now.
613
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,942
nd I met this girl,
but I'm living in her house.
614
00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:25,577
I don't own anything.
615
00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:28,280
Like, I have nothing to show
616
00:32:28,347 --> 00:32:30,849
for all of the
work that I've done
617
00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:32,851
my whole life.
618
00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:34,953
But, my dad
619
00:32:35,021 --> 00:32:38,657
stopped me dead in my tracks,
and he goes, "Listen."
620
00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:42,461
He said, "When I was a kid,
I wanted to be an artist."
621
00:32:42,528 --> 00:32:44,796
And he goes, "I fell in
love with your mother."
622
00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:48,634
"We got married and you came
along shortly afterwards."
623
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:52,104
"My dream of being an artist,
I put it aside."
624
00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:54,140
"I put on a suit and tie,
625
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,941
and I went to work."
626
00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:59,011
He said, "You,
on the other hand,
627
00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:01,713
you did everything you said
you were gonna do."
628
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:03,782
"You made a lot of money."
629
00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,884
"You took care of your son."
630
00:33:05,951 --> 00:33:08,154
"You took care of your mother."
631
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,056
"You did it all
632
00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:15,294
playing your guitar
exactly as you wanted."
633
00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,897
"You're a bigger man
than I'll ever be."
634
00:33:18,964 --> 00:33:22,568
He put everything
into perspective for me.
635
00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:24,903
But, I think that
was the point where
636
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:27,005
I finally got
637
00:33:27,073 --> 00:33:28,574
the seal of approval.
638
00:33:31,877 --> 00:33:33,512
When he did pass away,
639
00:33:33,579 --> 00:33:36,382
I found his old foot locker
from the Army.
640
00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:40,052
And there was my dad's
medals on one side,
641
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,988
and the whole rest of
the footlocker was like,
642
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:46,592
there was every fucking magazine
that I had ever been in.
643
00:33:46,658 --> 00:33:50,062
Like, pictures circled, cut out.
644
00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:53,031
And it was like, you know what?
645
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:55,134
I did OK.
646
00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:00,139
Life is good.
647
00:34:16,987 --> 00:34:20,592
[Kip] The universe dealt
me a hell of a blow
648
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,495
to put me in the place
that I needed to be to
649
00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:25,797
achieve,
650
00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:29,701
artistically,
what I was capable of.
651
00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:32,304
I never thought
it was in my reach to
652
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,340
have an orchestra play my music.
653
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:36,108
I just wanted to do it, because,
654
00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:38,344
you know, I wanted
to know the language.
655
00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,146
Studied for a long,
long time, man,
656
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,848
before I wrote anything good.
657
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,551
Finally, I wrote this
ballet called Ghosts,
658
00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:49,987
and I sent it to Chris Wheeldon,
a world-renowned choreographer.
659
00:34:50,054 --> 00:34:51,723
And Chris called me back
and said,
660
00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:54,626
"I want to use it for
San Francisco Ballet."
661
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:56,328
Conversations with Nijinsky
662
00:34:56,395 --> 00:34:59,465
ended up getting
nominated for a Grammy in
663
00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:01,800
contemporary
classical composition.
664
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:11,910
I've just done it for
the love of it, man.
665
00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:15,247
[audience applauding]
666
00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:21,787
[orchestral music]
667
00:35:39,505 --> 00:35:42,007
There's very few classical
composers you'll hear
668
00:35:42,073 --> 00:35:43,842
that can really make
the orchestra rock
669
00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:45,177
like a rock band.
670
00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:53,519
[audience applauding]
671
00:35:58,624 --> 00:35:59,891
It's all been very surreal.
672
00:36:02,961 --> 00:36:05,931
To go into the ranks
of a whole other genre
673
00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:08,099
and to really be embraced.
674
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:11,403
[audience applauding]
675
00:36:20,812 --> 00:36:22,381
[Lonn] The '80s metal genre
676
00:36:22,448 --> 00:36:24,783
was so much about
having a good time.
677
00:36:24,850 --> 00:36:27,453
It was about getting laid,
678
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,622
and getting loud, and drunk,
679
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:34,092
and not worrying about the
pressures of society so much.
680
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,428
Just, kind of letting it go.
681
00:36:36,495 --> 00:36:38,230
Having an escape.
682
00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:43,835
In the last like 10 years,
the country music scene
683
00:36:43,902 --> 00:36:46,972
has adopted that
whole zeitgeist.
684
00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:48,674
[crowd cheering]
685
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,577
[man speaks indistinctly]
- [crowd cheers]
686
00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:54,580
[Riki] Have you people been to
a country concert lately?
687
00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:58,350
Country is now the
'80s, '90s rock and roll.
688
00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:00,252
♪ Baby you're a song ♪
689
00:37:00,319 --> 00:37:02,821
♪ You make me
wanna roll my windows down ♪
690
00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,956
♪ And cruise ♪
691
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:06,992
♪ When this country cutie
with a rock and roll booty ♪
692
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,328
♪ Came struttin' in
through the door ♪
693
00:37:09,395 --> 00:37:11,697
[Riki] Now they're singing
about meeting the girls,
694
00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:13,999
and partying with your friends.
695
00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,668
♪ You can find me in the back
of a jacked-up tailgate ♪
696
00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,537
You know, "We're gonna
pull in the river
697
00:37:18,604 --> 00:37:20,672
and drink on my,
drink in my truck."
698
00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,541
♪ And I'll find peace ♪
699
00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:24,209
♪ At the bottom of
a real tall cold drink ♪
700
00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:27,713
"With a drink in my hand,
and she was so fine."
701
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,154
[Lonn] The songs that will
live on from the '80s,
702
00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:37,823
in the same way
that The Beatles,
703
00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,891
and The Stones, and the
Zeppelin songs live on.
704
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,528
But the ones that we remember,
705
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,697
they define the groups
that define the era.
706
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:51,570
♪ Yeah, love is all around you ♪
707
00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,573
[Riki] And you know what?
It's not dead.
708
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,543
Because anytime
I put on any record
709
00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,145
from that music that
I wanna listen to,
710
00:38:00,211 --> 00:38:01,813
it still sounds fucking good.
711
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,015
♪...just want you ♪
712
00:38:04,082 --> 00:38:06,017
[Snake] Heavy metal music
and hard rock music
713
00:38:06,084 --> 00:38:08,487
never, ever died.
714
00:38:08,554 --> 00:38:10,656
From the early
Deep Purple records
715
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:12,157
and Black Sabbath records,
716
00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:15,260
all the way through to today.
717
00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:19,064
Skid Row is still out
playing to great audiences.
718
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,033
To this day, we still get
people talking about
719
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,102
what that record meant to them.
720
00:38:24,169 --> 00:38:27,439
I'm so filled with gratitude
721
00:38:27,506 --> 00:38:30,776
to be a part of something
that affected people
722
00:38:30,842 --> 00:38:32,778
on such a deep level.
723
00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:34,380
It's a pretty special thing.
724
00:38:34,446 --> 00:38:38,884
["Love Song" by Tesla playing]
725
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:41,687
[Lonn] Metal never dies,
it's like a virus.
726
00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:44,356
Metal just comes back
as a different variant.
727
00:38:44,423 --> 00:38:45,624
♪ I wanna rock ♪
728
00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:47,025
♪ Rock ♪
729
00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,760
You're into metal?
I'm into metal.
730
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,429
You're into metal?
I'm into metal.
731
00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:53,331
We're gonna thrash!
732
00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:58,236
[Lonn] The real metal fans,
they're still around.
733
00:38:58,303 --> 00:38:59,371
Metal.
734
00:38:59,438 --> 00:39:01,773
["Sweet Child O' Mine" plays]
735
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,742
Stop. You're in.
736
00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,844
Oh, cool.
- What's in your wallet?
737
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,581
[Peacemaker] Oh, this is my jam.
738
00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:11,783
You know, this is back
when men were real men,
739
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,819
'cause they weren't
afraid to be women.
740
00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:16,087
[Katherine] So, definitely,
in the last five years,
741
00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:19,157
I have noticed the resurgence.
742
00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:22,327
Motley Crue has un-retired
and is back on the road.
743
00:39:22,394 --> 00:39:26,998
Cut to today, the teachers
unions are singing--
744
00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:30,101
♪ We're not gonna take it ♪
745
00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,804
♪ No, we ain't gonna take it ♪
746
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,608
"No, we ain't gonna take it."
And, it's just amazing.
747
00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:39,445
[Riki] I'm always gonna be that
guy from Headbanger's Ball.
748
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,448
This show is much more
important than I even realized.
749
00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:46,652
I'm so proud and blessed
to have been part of that.
750
00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:51,089
♪ Love will find a way ♪
751
00:39:51,156 --> 00:39:53,925
[Snake] I wasn't raised
in an environment
752
00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,661
or with the ethos that
753
00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:58,830
it was a birthright
to be successful.
754
00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:00,666
It's a gift.
755
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:03,469
It's an absolute gift, and
you need to treat it as such.
756
00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:06,538
Whatever good comes your way,
757
00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:08,540
take it as such.
758
00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:10,175
There's gonna be bad times.
759
00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:12,177
You just gotta get through 'em.
760
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:15,213
[Vicky] Music changes
people's lives.
761
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,449
Make the world
better through music,
762
00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:20,385
that's kind of my philosophy.
763
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,689
Figure out something to say
that's going to save the world.
764
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,223
You know?
765
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:26,625
Because we need it.
766
00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:32,163
Life is as it should be.
I don't regret anything.
767
00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:34,866
'Cause everything that I've done
768
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,002
has led me to this point,
769
00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:40,071
right now, talking to you.
770
00:40:40,138 --> 00:40:43,475
And, cut.
[laughs]
771
00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:44,610
And that's a wrap.
772
00:40:47,312 --> 00:40:49,981
Yeah, thank you, guys.
773
00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:52,017
♪ I know ♪
774
00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:05,531
[John] Wanna put a little
acoustic down?
775
00:41:05,597 --> 00:41:07,298
[man] Sure.
776
00:41:20,145 --> 00:41:27,085
♪ She wakes up on the wrong
side of the bed alone ♪
777
00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:31,890
♪ Thinks about the time
that's passed her by ♪
778
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,562
Oh, my God!
779
00:41:36,628 --> 00:41:39,364
[guitar music]
780
00:41:50,676 --> 00:41:52,611
[crew member] This is Diablo,
take one.
781
00:41:52,678 --> 00:41:54,279
My name's Kip.
- Oh...
782
00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,414
[guitar music]
783
00:42:06,658 --> 00:42:09,595
♪ She's only 48 ♪
784
00:42:14,165 --> 00:42:16,034
Ah!
785
00:42:20,839 --> 00:42:22,574
Oh! Eww!
786
00:42:22,641 --> 00:42:26,678
Gonna put my parent's
video on Instagram.
787
00:42:26,745 --> 00:42:28,446
My wife says, "You don't
drink enough water."
788
00:42:28,513 --> 00:42:30,281
I said, "What do you mean?"
789
00:42:30,348 --> 00:42:32,250
"They put water in those
coffee machines, don't they?"
790
00:42:32,317 --> 00:42:33,619
I just like my water
over coffee beans
791
00:42:33,685 --> 00:42:36,855
before it gets into me.
792
00:42:36,922 --> 00:42:38,523
I picked the wrong role model.
793
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,626
I wanted to be Keith Richards.
794
00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:43,629
I realize, now, only one guy
gets to be Keith Richards,
795
00:42:43,695 --> 00:42:46,197
and that's Keith Richards.
796
00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:48,934
I felt like the
bands that I was in
797
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,536
were not managed the way
I would manage the band.
798
00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:53,605
And so, that I started
managing because
799
00:42:53,672 --> 00:42:55,473
it was kind of do-it-yourself.
800
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:58,076
[guitar music]
801
00:43:12,858 --> 00:43:15,393
♪ A love that will never be ♪
802
00:43:17,696 --> 00:43:19,898
[song ends]
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