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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,435 --> 00:00:03,237 ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:06,807 --> 00:00:09,310 [rock music] 3 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:13,947 [Snake] Our second album, Slave to the Grind, 4 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:15,916 it debuts at number one. 5 00:00:15,983 --> 00:00:18,186 ♪ If you're slave to the grind ♪ 6 00:00:18,252 --> 00:00:20,054 We're getting ready to go on tour, 7 00:00:20,121 --> 00:00:24,692 and we were doing a photoshoot with a good friend of ours, 8 00:00:24,758 --> 00:00:28,529 a real friend, Lonn Friend, for RIP Magazine. 9 00:00:28,596 --> 00:00:33,201 We're shooting a Skid Row session with the band 10 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:37,571 and Sebastian and I go, "Dudes, you wanna hear something?" 11 00:00:37,638 --> 00:00:40,408 And I popped the cassette in, and they- 12 00:00:40,474 --> 00:00:42,610 ♪...lights out, it's less ♪ 13 00:00:42,676 --> 00:00:45,313 And Bas goes, "Fuck!" 14 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:46,547 Nirvana. 15 00:00:46,614 --> 00:00:48,316 ♪ Entertain us ♪ 16 00:00:48,382 --> 00:00:51,452 ♪ I feel stupid and contagious ♪ 17 00:00:51,519 --> 00:00:56,224 I'll never forget Rachel looking at me and going, 18 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:58,926 "Things are about to change." 19 00:00:58,992 --> 00:01:02,530 [slide projector clicking] 20 00:01:08,702 --> 00:01:12,806 [Vicky] I remember this one particular meeting. 21 00:01:12,873 --> 00:01:15,443 Teen Spirit has come out. 22 00:01:15,509 --> 00:01:17,277 The marketing people are about, 23 00:01:17,345 --> 00:01:20,481 and I remember them saying, "Don't do anything. 24 00:01:20,548 --> 00:01:22,650 It's working." 25 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:26,454 And the record just exploded. 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,088 [Katherine] Once a band does well, 27 00:01:28,156 --> 00:01:29,957 A&R people start signing bands 28 00:01:30,023 --> 00:01:32,526 that are like that, which is how the hair metal scene happened, 29 00:01:32,593 --> 00:01:33,860 and that's how the grunge scene 30 00:01:33,926 --> 00:01:35,496 got bigger and bigger and bigger. 31 00:01:35,563 --> 00:01:37,465 [Vicky] Everybody's flying to Seattle, 32 00:01:37,531 --> 00:01:39,700 like trying to find the next band. 33 00:01:39,767 --> 00:01:42,136 And a lot of bands out of Seattle got signed. 34 00:01:42,203 --> 00:01:44,672 ♪ But I'm gonna break ♪ 35 00:01:44,738 --> 00:01:47,375 ♪ I'm gonna break my ♪ 36 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,477 ♪ I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run ♪ 37 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:52,045 [Vicky] All of a sudden MTV-- - ♪ I'm going hungry ♪ 38 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:54,114 ♪ I'm going hungry ♪ 39 00:01:54,182 --> 00:01:57,285 [Vicky] It's nonstop Temple of the Dog, Alice in Chains. 40 00:01:57,351 --> 00:02:01,489 ♪ I'm the man in the box ♪ 41 00:02:01,555 --> 00:02:05,659 Pearl Jam. - ♪ Even flow ♪ 42 00:02:05,726 --> 00:02:09,029 ♪ Thoughts arrive like butterflies ♪ 43 00:02:09,096 --> 00:02:11,465 [Riki] A long time ago, it's like a lot of the bands 44 00:02:11,532 --> 00:02:13,334 came from L.A., but now it seems like 45 00:02:13,401 --> 00:02:16,504 a lot of the great bands are coming from the Seattle area. 46 00:02:16,570 --> 00:02:18,372 And Pearl Jam is one of those bands. 47 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:19,640 And we're a great band. - [Mike laughs] 48 00:02:19,707 --> 00:02:21,709 [Riki] You're a great band. 49 00:02:21,775 --> 00:02:23,644 [Lonn] Groups like Pearl Jam 50 00:02:23,711 --> 00:02:26,880 were writing really strong songs. 51 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:30,318 So you can't get away with fluff anymore. 52 00:02:30,384 --> 00:02:32,786 The competition's too fierce. 53 00:02:34,222 --> 00:02:37,491 ♪ I nearly lost you there ♪ 54 00:02:37,558 --> 00:02:40,761 [Snake] This new sound was saying something different 55 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:44,031 than our collective hard rock brand of music. 56 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:46,334 And it was a whole different culture. 57 00:02:47,735 --> 00:02:50,838 Grunge was an anti-rockstar thing. 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,843 They were more about music connection, 59 00:02:55,909 --> 00:02:58,546 just a little more thoughtful. 60 00:02:58,612 --> 00:03:03,417 So all these like crazy getup outfits, that was like gone. 61 00:03:03,484 --> 00:03:07,054 You're not gonna see Eddie Vedder in buttless chaps. 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,457 Thank God. 63 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:11,058 [Wayne] Grunge, in a lot of the videos, 64 00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:13,126 were exactly what other videos were, 65 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,896 but that sound and the look and the attitude 66 00:03:15,963 --> 00:03:17,698 took it into a whole different direction. 67 00:03:17,765 --> 00:03:20,401 With metal, it was all about, again, 68 00:03:20,468 --> 00:03:23,437 the exuberance, the excitement. 69 00:03:23,504 --> 00:03:27,275 I started watching November Rain and it's like, 70 00:03:27,341 --> 00:03:29,209 a guy jumping through a wedding cake 71 00:03:29,277 --> 00:03:32,212 when it starts to rain. 72 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,417 That absurdity and the largeness of it, it's too much. 73 00:03:36,484 --> 00:03:38,452 ♪ Take your time ♪ 74 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:40,654 [Wayne] You can see then Nirvana coming up 75 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:43,424 with a dog with the bite collar on. 76 00:03:43,491 --> 00:03:45,293 It's the anti-video. 77 00:03:45,359 --> 00:03:47,428 So do they destroy what's going on with the metal? 78 00:03:47,495 --> 00:03:50,564 No, but they just said, "We don't wanna do that." 79 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:53,166 I liked a lot of those bands. A lot. 80 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:54,635 But you know, there was no reason 81 00:03:54,702 --> 00:03:56,670 to throw the rest of us in the trash. 82 00:03:57,471 --> 00:03:59,973 [Riki] I've never heard of a band getting a bigger buzz 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,410 quicker than this band, Nirvana. 84 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:04,512 Hi, Riki. - First of all, love the suit. 85 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:05,913 Thanks a lot. - Be very comfortable 86 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:08,081 on planes, I think. 87 00:04:08,148 --> 00:04:12,320 [Lonn] People point to grunge, specifically Nirvana, 88 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:16,656 as wielding some sort of Game of Thrones sword 89 00:04:16,724 --> 00:04:19,860 and cutting the heart out of heavy metal music. 90 00:04:19,927 --> 00:04:22,029 That's ludicrous. 91 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:24,998 If you say that grunge killed metal, 92 00:04:25,065 --> 00:04:26,700 you're a fucking idiot. 93 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:28,436 If you wanna talk about bands that you say 94 00:04:28,502 --> 00:04:31,038 kill your music scene, and you're thinking, well, 95 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:33,441 what about the biggest artist, Nirvana? 96 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:36,444 Guess what, people, you're not saying the G word, 97 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:37,778 and that's Garth. 98 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:41,615 [Garth yells] 99 00:04:41,682 --> 00:04:44,885 ♪ I've got friends in low places ♪ 100 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:48,956 [Lonn] In '92, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Red Hot Chili Peppers 101 00:04:49,022 --> 00:04:52,726 sold a combined 9 million albums. 102 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:56,464 Garth Brooks sold 12.6 million. 103 00:04:56,530 --> 00:04:59,633 [crowd cheering] 104 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:01,635 ♪ Drove to the church ♪ 105 00:05:01,702 --> 00:05:03,537 [Riki] Got to be a point you didn't even care 106 00:05:03,604 --> 00:05:05,739 about being the number one if you could be number two 107 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:08,409 under Garth, because you were never gonna beat Garth. 108 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:11,244 ♪ Life is not tried it is merely survived ♪ 109 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:13,414 [Riki] And pretty soon, all those people that were going 110 00:05:13,481 --> 00:05:15,315 to all those rock and roll shows 111 00:05:15,383 --> 00:05:17,217 were going to country shows. 112 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:19,620 [crowd cheering] 113 00:05:21,622 --> 00:05:23,357 And pretty soon you started having these 114 00:05:23,424 --> 00:05:26,059 very independent strong female artists. 115 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:30,263 ♪ And I'm here to remind you ♪ 116 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,766 [Riki] So having the Alanis Morissette... 117 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:34,702 ♪ When you went away ♪ 118 00:05:34,768 --> 00:05:37,237 ♪ Give me one reason to stay here ♪ 119 00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:38,872 [Riki] Tracy Chapman. 120 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:42,610 ♪ I never said nothing ♪ 121 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:46,079 [Riki] Liz Phair. - ♪ I've been a bad, bad ♪ 122 00:05:46,146 --> 00:05:47,415 ♪ If it makes you happy ♪ 123 00:05:47,481 --> 00:05:49,582 ♪ Dreams last for... ♪ 124 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:51,784 ♪ Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 125 00:05:51,852 --> 00:05:54,455 ♪ Nothing compares to you ♪ 126 00:05:54,522 --> 00:05:57,057 ♪ Zombie, zombie, zombie ♪ 127 00:05:57,124 --> 00:05:59,927 [Riki] Strong women that had something to say, 128 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:01,462 and they had their own festivals. 129 00:06:01,529 --> 00:06:02,963 We had our rock festivals, 130 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:05,032 they had their Liz Fair festivals and-- 131 00:06:05,098 --> 00:06:06,934 Lilith Fair. - What did I say, Lilla Fair? 132 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,902 Liz Fair. - Liz Fair? 133 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:12,105 [Crew Member] You meant Lilith Fair. 134 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:13,407 Yeah. 135 00:06:13,474 --> 00:06:16,510 ♪ The water is wide ♪ 136 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:19,980 [Riki] Lilith Fair. 137 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:23,082 Those are two totally different things, aren't they? 138 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:25,419 You know what's interesting about genres? 139 00:06:25,486 --> 00:06:28,422 When one shifts and changes, 140 00:06:28,489 --> 00:06:31,759 it needs to be filled in by something else. 141 00:06:31,825 --> 00:06:34,662 In the same way that Poison was having 142 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:36,430 Nothing But a Good Time, 143 00:06:36,497 --> 00:06:38,899 Temple of the Dog was going on a Hunger Strike. 144 00:06:38,966 --> 00:06:42,636 OK, what's to say one kills the other? 145 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:45,005 ["Still of the Night" by Whitesnake plays] 146 00:06:46,039 --> 00:06:47,608 What killed the Strip? 147 00:06:50,377 --> 00:06:53,681 Hair metal had a hand in taking itself out. 148 00:06:53,747 --> 00:07:00,120 ♪ Whoa, after the rain washes away the tears ♪ 149 00:07:00,187 --> 00:07:03,423 [Vicky] As metal evolved, a lot of bands didn't get it, 150 00:07:03,491 --> 00:07:04,958 and they thought like the image 151 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:06,760 was the most important thing. 152 00:07:06,827 --> 00:07:10,464 ♪ And that's all right ♪ 153 00:07:10,531 --> 00:07:12,533 ♪ 'Cause that's the way I am ♪ 154 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,302 [Janet] We were doing this sort of rebellious 155 00:07:15,368 --> 00:07:17,538 but fun kind of music. 156 00:07:17,605 --> 00:07:20,040 There wasn't a lot of darkness or anything to it. 157 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:22,109 ♪ And I ♪ 158 00:07:23,477 --> 00:07:27,515 [Janet] A lot of colorful antics going on. 159 00:07:27,581 --> 00:07:30,283 ♪ Don't say goodbye ♪ 160 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:33,854 ♪ Say you're gonna stay forever ♪ 161 00:07:33,921 --> 00:07:37,290 Like M tley Cr e's not necessarily the best band, 162 00:07:37,357 --> 00:07:40,060 the best instrumentalists, but what they were doing 163 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:41,595 early on was authentic. 164 00:07:43,263 --> 00:07:45,398 What diminished over the course 165 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,401 of the decade was that authenticity. 166 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,470 [Katherine] When hair metal bands 167 00:07:50,538 --> 00:07:52,540 were no longer the next big thing, 168 00:07:52,606 --> 00:07:54,241 there was a backlash. 169 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,343 You know, you become a laughingstock. 170 00:07:56,409 --> 00:07:59,212 A lot of those bands who went from playing arenas 171 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:02,716 and theaters were back in clubs. 172 00:08:02,783 --> 00:08:04,818 Some of them didn't survive at all. 173 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:14,695 [Kip] MTV made a left turn. They just stopped playing it. 174 00:08:14,762 --> 00:08:17,397 That was the media force. 175 00:08:17,464 --> 00:08:19,399 I couldn't get a gig, lost my record deal, 176 00:08:19,466 --> 00:08:21,935 lost the publishing, everything was gone. 177 00:08:23,604 --> 00:08:26,506 I was sitting in Rick Krim's office when somebody came in 178 00:08:26,574 --> 00:08:29,009 and said, "Hey, man, you got the new Metallica video?" 179 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:30,443 And it was Nothing Else Matters. 180 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:33,746 ♪ Nothing else matters ♪ 181 00:08:33,813 --> 00:08:36,917 And I saw Rick's nervous face, usher the video out, 182 00:08:36,984 --> 00:08:38,719 making sure I wouldn't go, 183 00:08:38,786 --> 00:08:40,788 "Hey, man, let me check out the new Metallica video." 184 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:45,425 ♪ Never cared for what they know ♪ 185 00:08:45,492 --> 00:08:48,328 [Kip] Metallica throwing darts at my poster in the video, 186 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:51,531 I didn't typically think it's cool 187 00:08:51,599 --> 00:08:54,234 to slag off your fellow musician. 188 00:08:54,301 --> 00:08:55,936 [Beavis laughing] 189 00:08:56,003 --> 00:08:59,539 Hey, Butt-Head, check it out. I'm going as a wuss. 190 00:08:59,607 --> 00:09:01,541 [Beavis and Butt-Head laughing] 191 00:09:01,609 --> 00:09:05,012 ♪ She's only 17, whoo, ah ♪ 192 00:09:06,847 --> 00:09:09,049 [Kip] Our name was toxic. 193 00:09:09,116 --> 00:09:11,551 This was very clear before Beavis and Butt-Head 194 00:09:11,619 --> 00:09:13,486 and after Beavis and Butt-Head. 195 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:15,222 This is cool, huh, guys? 196 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:17,925 Shut up, Stewart. We're trying to watch TV. 197 00:09:17,991 --> 00:09:19,727 Yeah, yeah. - [Beavis and Butt-Head laugh] 198 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:21,328 [Kip] I mean, I was on the scene of the crime. 199 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:23,897 I had my T-shirt on Stewart's chest. 200 00:09:23,964 --> 00:09:29,102 I am the guy that represents everything that sucks. 201 00:09:29,169 --> 00:09:32,105 I lost all my confidence. 202 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:36,109 It really shook me to the core of my being, you know. 203 00:09:36,176 --> 00:09:38,411 What the hell is your mom's problem, Stewart? 204 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:40,681 Yeah. Your mom sucks. 205 00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:49,389 [Janet] We were no longer a viable musical entity. 206 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:53,360 It was horrifying. 207 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:55,829 There was inner turmoil in the band a little bit 208 00:09:55,896 --> 00:09:57,564 because we didn't know what to do. 209 00:09:58,699 --> 00:10:01,101 I didn't see it going anywhere. 210 00:10:01,168 --> 00:10:04,604 So we called it quits. 211 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:11,511 I needed to do other things that I liked doing 212 00:10:11,578 --> 00:10:14,147 other than music. 213 00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:15,649 A lot of soul-searching, 214 00:10:15,716 --> 00:10:18,051 spent a lot of time with my dog, 215 00:10:18,118 --> 00:10:20,153 played a lot of golf. 216 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:21,889 [Interviewer] There's not a big audience for that. 217 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:25,025 What do you see for yourself in the next five years? 218 00:10:25,092 --> 00:10:26,827 Well, I don't know. 219 00:10:29,562 --> 00:10:31,398 All of a sudden I felt it had just been ripped 220 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:33,300 out from underneath me, you know? 221 00:10:33,366 --> 00:10:36,569 And I was devastated because I had nothing else to my life. 222 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:39,339 Nothing. It was all that mattered to me. 223 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:41,909 So I'm not gonna let that happen again. 224 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,144 So, you know, I don't know. 225 00:10:44,211 --> 00:10:47,247 [laughs] We'll see. 226 00:10:55,622 --> 00:10:59,059 [birds chirping] 227 00:10:59,126 --> 00:11:01,962 All right, I see a gem in here. 228 00:11:02,029 --> 00:11:05,999 Our first single, Edge of a Broken Heart. 229 00:11:06,066 --> 00:11:08,601 I wonder if this even plays anymore. 230 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,238 We look serious, don't we? 231 00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:14,007 'Cause it was for a metal magazine and we had to be... 232 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:15,575 bitchin'. 233 00:11:17,044 --> 00:11:20,647 Looked like my closet threw up on me. 234 00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:24,017 "Vixen, the Return of Girl Group Rock." 235 00:11:24,084 --> 00:11:25,452 We brought something back apparently 236 00:11:25,518 --> 00:11:27,154 that I didn't know had gone anywhere. 237 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:29,923 Ooh, "Wild Women's Den." 238 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:31,959 So my mom actually got a lot of these. 239 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:33,861 She'd go up to the counter with all these 240 00:11:33,927 --> 00:11:36,797 like rock magazines, and she would go, 241 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:40,801 "Oh, my daughter, my daughter's in one of these bands." 242 00:11:40,868 --> 00:11:44,772 You could see my amalgam fillings in my molars. 243 00:11:44,838 --> 00:11:46,173 So I went and I got 'em all replaced 244 00:11:46,239 --> 00:11:48,540 with like tooth-colored fillings. 245 00:11:48,608 --> 00:11:51,311 It says I'm 5'7", 128 pounds. 246 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:54,547 OK. 247 00:11:55,682 --> 00:11:57,217 Jan. 248 00:11:57,284 --> 00:12:00,453 She's one of the nicest people you will ever meet 249 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,355 in your entire life. 250 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:04,024 She was reforming the band, 251 00:12:04,091 --> 00:12:06,493 wanted to get all the originals back together. 252 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,695 We were all excited. We were talking on the phone. 253 00:12:08,762 --> 00:12:13,566 We were getting through all of the old issues, 254 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:17,037 just knocking 'em out of the way one at a time. 255 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:18,171 And we finally got to the point 256 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:19,572 where we were ready to do it. 257 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,975 We were gonna make an announcement. 258 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,743 And she calls up and says, 259 00:12:23,811 --> 00:12:27,480 "Well, we're gonna have to delay this for a little bit." 260 00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:30,683 It turned out she had ovarian cancer. 261 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:35,188 To make matters worse, it was stage four ovarian cancer. 262 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:37,757 A couple weeks later she was gone. 263 00:12:38,491 --> 00:12:41,194 So, yeah. 264 00:12:41,261 --> 00:12:42,930 But at least we had that. 265 00:12:42,996 --> 00:12:45,665 We had the moments to kind of get through 266 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:49,870 a lot of old cobwebs that needed to be removed. 267 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:55,475 But yeah, she was something else. Miss her. 268 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:03,016 [Vicky] They say a manager is blamed for everything 269 00:13:03,083 --> 00:13:05,085 and credited with nothing. 270 00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:08,221 But for me, it was like, not just Guns N' Roses. 271 00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:10,023 ♪ Welcome to the jungle ♪ 272 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:11,892 ♪ Don't need nothin' ♪ 273 00:13:11,959 --> 00:13:13,894 [Vicky] It was Poison. - ♪ But a good time ♪ 274 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:15,762 ♪ He's the one they call Dr. Feelgood ♪ 275 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:17,464 [Vicky] And it was Motley Crue. 276 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:20,968 Um... you know. 277 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:27,140 I had these hopes it would be forever with these bands, 278 00:13:27,207 --> 00:13:29,476 but it was always sort of the same scenario 279 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:32,946 where I would develop them, and then some corporate 280 00:13:33,013 --> 00:13:37,450 record guy would swoop in and steal the band somehow. 281 00:13:37,517 --> 00:13:41,922 So I decided that I wanted to be an A&R person. 282 00:13:46,493 --> 00:13:48,328 The guys are just wild and crazy guys, 283 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:51,564 but I'm really proud of 'em, and best of luck. 284 00:13:51,631 --> 00:13:53,066 When they brought me to Geffen, 285 00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:55,002 I was considered a street scout. 286 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:56,636 I went out every night 287 00:13:56,703 --> 00:13:58,505 and just looked at bands in the clubs. 288 00:14:00,473 --> 00:14:04,644 Geffen was such that I could sign one band a year on my own, 289 00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:06,980 and then if I wanted to sign another band, 290 00:14:07,047 --> 00:14:10,283 I had to go through Tom Zutaut. 291 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:13,320 I was Tom's last priority. 292 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:17,657 I would sit in his waiting room for hours sometimes, 293 00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:21,128 waiting for him to like take a meeting with me. 294 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:24,664 It was such a male-dominated culture, 295 00:14:24,731 --> 00:14:28,601 but I kind of tried to be one of the guys. 296 00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:33,540 I think that's why I was able to get as far as I did 297 00:14:33,606 --> 00:14:35,142 in the music business. 298 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:42,115 Getting the paycheck was great, and being able to sign bands 299 00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:44,317 to Geffen Records, it was great. 300 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,188 But most nights I felt like I was having a heart attack 301 00:14:48,255 --> 00:14:51,491 because it was like so insane. 302 00:14:51,558 --> 00:14:53,460 [motorcycle engine revving] 303 00:14:53,526 --> 00:14:55,295 This is West Hollywood! 304 00:14:55,362 --> 00:14:56,629 [Speaker] Where are you guys gonna be tomorrow night? 305 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:58,031 We'll be at Camp Hollywood tomorrow night 306 00:14:58,098 --> 00:14:59,832 if you wanna show up. - OK, I'm up. 307 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:04,804 [Vicky] Well, I was 15 when I first started partying. 308 00:15:05,605 --> 00:15:07,507 $5. - Five bucks? Ooh, baby. 309 00:15:08,308 --> 00:15:10,243 I would go to the Rainbow and have a couple 310 00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:14,214 of Long Island iced teas and be out of my mind. 311 00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:16,516 I don't know what they have in that, 312 00:15:16,583 --> 00:15:20,320 but it's some strong shit. [laughs] 313 00:15:20,387 --> 00:15:23,256 I had met a doctor that would write me a prescription 314 00:15:23,323 --> 00:15:25,325 for 30 Quaaludes a month. 315 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:28,361 It got to the point where hangovers were 316 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:31,064 lasting three days. 317 00:15:31,131 --> 00:15:34,367 It's fun until it's not fun anymore. 318 00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:38,838 And once it's not fun anymore, it's never fun again. 319 00:15:38,905 --> 00:15:45,612 I started walking dogs for a living. It got really bad. 320 00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:51,551 The question in my mind was always, is this all there is? 321 00:15:55,022 --> 00:15:59,126 [crowd cheering] 322 00:15:59,192 --> 00:16:01,228 [man] Welcome to the Crue, Corabi! 323 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,130 [crowd cheering] 324 00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:04,631 [rock music] 325 00:16:06,266 --> 00:16:08,135 [John] They put out a press release 326 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:11,704 saying that John Corabi's the new singer for Motley. 327 00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:14,941 For a bit, it was pretty cool. 328 00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:17,044 ♪ He's the one they call Dr. Feelgood ♪ 329 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:18,911 ♪ He's the one that makes you feel all right ♪ 330 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:24,851 It was fun, it was neurotic, it was hair-raising. 331 00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:30,790 Every adjective you could think of, that was Motley Crue. 332 00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:33,826 ♪ I'm on my way ♪ 333 00:16:33,893 --> 00:16:35,728 ♪ Home sweet home ♪ 334 00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:37,730 Ticket sales were bad, 335 00:16:37,797 --> 00:16:41,601 but everybody was in that grind at that point. 336 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:45,172 The only bands that were really selling tickets 337 00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:48,075 were all the Seattle bands. 338 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:51,811 We'd started working on the record Motley Crue. 339 00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:54,747 I don't really see it like as Motley 340 00:16:54,814 --> 00:16:57,350 intentionally trying to write a grunge record. 341 00:16:57,417 --> 00:16:59,486 [rock music] 342 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:01,321 We just jammed. 343 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:04,656 It was four snot-nosed shitheads sitting in a room together. 344 00:17:04,723 --> 00:17:08,528 ♪ Everybody wants a piece of the action ♪ 345 00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,030 And it just kind of turned it into the record 346 00:17:11,098 --> 00:17:12,832 that it turned into. 347 00:17:12,898 --> 00:17:18,204 ♪ Oh, life, it's misunderstood them ♪ 348 00:17:18,271 --> 00:17:20,307 ♪ So close your eyes and dream ♪ 349 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:24,111 I love the record, I love the music that we wrote together 350 00:17:24,176 --> 00:17:26,313 and I think it was a brilliant record. 351 00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:29,616 [mellow guitar music] 352 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:38,358 ♪ Oh ♪ 353 00:17:38,425 --> 00:17:41,828 ♪ Monkey business, slippin' on the track, monkey business ♪ 354 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,730 [Snake] That thing that Rachel had mentioned 355 00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:45,632 in my mom's house, 356 00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:48,701 it's gonna be trouble, we certainly saw that happening. 357 00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:50,470 [Kurt Loder] Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach became 358 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:52,672 rock's latest embarrassment this week when a picture 359 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,407 of him wearing a T-shirt with the declaration 360 00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:56,075 "AIDS kills fags dead" 361 00:17:56,143 --> 00:17:58,211 appeared in "Metal Edge" magazine. 362 00:17:58,278 --> 00:18:00,547 [Snake] We had the horrible T-shirt. 363 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:03,049 The shirt that I was wearing, as you might know, 364 00:18:03,116 --> 00:18:06,085 says, "AIDS," it's like the- 365 00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:08,155 Raid logo. - It's the Raid, you know, 366 00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:10,157 Raid, [laughs] it's pretty harsh. 367 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:15,528 [Snake] Things started to get a bit tenuous. 368 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:20,367 After touring 17 months, we could not coexist, 369 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,569 mainly with Sebastian, so we ended up 370 00:18:22,635 --> 00:18:24,771 getting two different buses for the band. 371 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:27,740 But I would go back and forth with Sebastian's bus 372 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:31,178 just to try to keep some sort of glue, some sort of bond. 373 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,850 Who the fuck did that, man? Who the fuck did that? 374 00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:41,020 Was that you, cock sucker? - [crowd clamoring] 375 00:18:41,087 --> 00:18:44,090 [Snake] We had the incident in Springfield, Massachusetts 376 00:18:44,157 --> 00:18:46,459 of Sebastian throwing a bottle back 377 00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:49,296 and hitting a female audience member. 378 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:52,265 You know what I'm gonna do? Just get out of the fucking way! 379 00:18:52,332 --> 00:18:54,867 [rock music] 380 00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:02,709 [crowd yelling] 381 00:19:04,511 --> 00:19:06,379 [Snake] The worst part about that is someone 382 00:19:06,446 --> 00:19:09,882 got permanently injured because of someone's actions 383 00:19:09,949 --> 00:19:11,684 that were in our band. 384 00:19:13,052 --> 00:19:15,054 The crowds like hated us. 385 00:19:16,223 --> 00:19:17,890 We were getting spit on. 386 00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:20,927 We were getting bottles of piss thrown at us. 387 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,562 It was obvious. 388 00:19:22,629 --> 00:19:24,497 When we got done with that tour, 389 00:19:24,564 --> 00:19:26,399 we all went our separate ways. 390 00:19:26,466 --> 00:19:28,201 We didn't say a word to each other. 391 00:19:31,037 --> 00:19:34,407 I was having massive panic and anxiety attacks. 392 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,279 This black tidal wave kept just building 393 00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:40,780 and building and building. 394 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:47,920 The stigma is, you're crazy. Put him away. 395 00:19:48,488 --> 00:19:51,658 And that they did. 396 00:19:51,724 --> 00:19:54,761 [somber rock music] 397 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:04,437 [Kip] I can't get a deal. Lost my deal. 398 00:20:04,504 --> 00:20:05,805 No one's gonna sign me. 399 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:13,045 I was forced to redefine myself as a musician. 400 00:20:14,581 --> 00:20:18,050 I moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico, bought a house, 401 00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:20,052 put a studio in the house, and thought, 402 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,456 I'm gonna redevelop the way I create music. 403 00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:29,962 Got three-quarters of the way through my first solo album 404 00:20:30,029 --> 00:20:33,300 and then my wife got in a car accident and died. 405 00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:38,170 It was fucking surreal. 406 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,142 There was a lot of praying going on, man. 407 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:49,148 I did the same thing I always did, I just... 408 00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,983 went back to the music. 409 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:56,623 [piano music] 410 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:02,862 It was at that moment that I said, 411 00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:05,365 there's nothing else here for me to do, 412 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,601 so I'm gonna finally try to do the one thing 413 00:21:08,668 --> 00:21:10,570 I've always wanted to do, 414 00:21:10,637 --> 00:21:13,773 which is write orchestral music. 415 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,275 [piano music] 416 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:24,216 Learn it on their term. 417 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,453 And I'm gonna compose... 418 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,521 classical music. 419 00:21:28,588 --> 00:21:31,057 [classical music playing] 420 00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:49,376 The Motley fans, they're a strange breed. 421 00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:50,843 You wanna hit all these things? 422 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:52,745 [man] Yeah, if that's OK, I appreciate it. 423 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,982 How's that? 424 00:21:56,048 --> 00:21:58,651 [John] Some of the fans were OK with me joining. 425 00:21:58,718 --> 00:22:00,653 These two? And this? 426 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,321 [man] You don't have to do all that too, if you don't want to. 427 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:03,556 [John] And then there was other ones that just 428 00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,057 weren't gonna have it at all. 429 00:22:05,124 --> 00:22:08,060 I never saw anybody with a sign, 430 00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:11,831 like, " fuck you," or "where's Vince," you know? 431 00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:15,001 Everybody that did come came to have a good time. 432 00:22:15,067 --> 00:22:17,737 [metal music] 433 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,141 [Lonn] It was a really substantial record. 434 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,143 It's hard for a frontman to leave, 435 00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:26,479 and for you to have success with a new frontman. 436 00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,247 It's not done. 437 00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:31,884 And Motley had Vince Neil since, you know, day one. 438 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,056 [John] The studio record prior to mine sold 12 million. 439 00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:41,160 You know, mine didn't even do a million. 440 00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:46,032 We had started working on what became Generation Swine. 441 00:22:46,098 --> 00:22:52,605 As easy, and fun, and creative as the first record was, 442 00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:57,376 the next record was the complete antithesis of that. 443 00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:59,111 None of us were getting along. 444 00:22:59,178 --> 00:23:01,247 There was some rumors 445 00:23:01,313 --> 00:23:03,382 going around that maybe they were talking to Vince, 446 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:05,518 maybe they weren't. 447 00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:09,689 There was definitely some tension with a lot of the fans. 448 00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:16,228 And, the minute they brought Vince back, it was all gone. 449 00:23:17,263 --> 00:23:18,397 And I get it. 450 00:23:18,465 --> 00:23:21,200 [guitar music] 451 00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,537 I was devastated 452 00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:27,406 that I wasn't gonna continue on with the band, 453 00:23:27,474 --> 00:23:29,642 but at the same time, I was relieved. 454 00:23:30,943 --> 00:23:33,513 It's those four guys, as it should be. 455 00:23:34,647 --> 00:23:37,383 And I'll always be that little asterisk on the side. 456 00:23:38,485 --> 00:23:41,253 [guitar music] 457 00:23:56,569 --> 00:23:58,170 My mom and I. 458 00:23:58,237 --> 00:24:00,006 Is a... 459 00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:02,008 affectionately known as Mama Snake. 460 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:04,276 And she was like the band mom and 461 00:24:04,343 --> 00:24:06,078 we would be sleeping on her floor, 462 00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:07,780 we'd party 'till four o'clock in the morning 463 00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:10,249 at her house, she never said a word. 464 00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:12,585 I'd be like, "Ma, food!" 465 00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:14,654 And she'd get up at 2:30 in the morning 466 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,989 and make us food, it was incredible. 467 00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,858 My dad... 468 00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:21,260 left when I was two. 469 00:24:21,327 --> 00:24:24,430 My brother, Rick, was kind of, like, 470 00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,699 the one who was raising me, if you will. 471 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:29,035 He was like my hero. 472 00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:32,338 He got drafted to Vietnam. 473 00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:35,708 The first line in 18 and Life, 474 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:38,978 "Ricky was a young boy, he had a heart of stone," 475 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:41,614 was written about him. 476 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:50,890 Around the age of 477 00:24:50,957 --> 00:24:52,892 12 years old, 478 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:56,896 I was molested by some boys in my neighborhood. 479 00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:59,899 People I trusted, who were a little older than me. 480 00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:03,235 My body 481 00:25:03,302 --> 00:25:05,037 and brain 482 00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:06,305 shut down 483 00:25:07,974 --> 00:25:12,244 to make this as unreal as possible. 484 00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:15,715 I viewed it from a third-person standpoint. 485 00:25:15,782 --> 00:25:18,985 So, I saw it happen. 486 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,419 But it didn't happen to me. 487 00:25:24,323 --> 00:25:28,027 The person that was on stage, and is on stage, 488 00:25:28,094 --> 00:25:30,029 is mostly a character that was developed 489 00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:33,833 as a defense mechanism for fear of 490 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,135 what other people are going to think of me. 491 00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:41,908 I ended up in a hospital because 492 00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:43,275 I had had enough. 493 00:25:44,944 --> 00:25:46,946 I still didn't have the one key thing, 494 00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:48,180 was how do you fight it? 495 00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:51,684 I went to see this doctor, 496 00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:55,187 and he was the first psychiatrist 497 00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:57,890 that sat down and had a conversation with me. 498 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:04,196 So, I started treatment, and 499 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:07,099 I started, I was dedicated with my medicine. 500 00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:10,903 I was dedicated with therapy. 501 00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:14,907 And, sure enough, man, slowly, but surely. 502 00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:17,610 And the more it helped, the more I went to therapy, 503 00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:20,747 I started coming back. 504 00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:26,786 I am completely aware, acutely aware, 505 00:26:26,853 --> 00:26:29,088 of how lucky and blessed I am 506 00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:30,757 for all that I've been given. 507 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,764 ♪ Turn on the TV, 'cause I got nowhere to go ♪ 508 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:39,832 You know, you gotta go out, and... 509 00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:41,634 you've gotta perform, and entertain people. 510 00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:43,636 That's your job. 511 00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:47,573 ♪ A 13-year-old boy robs a store so he can eat ♪ 512 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,275 [Snake] But that's the thing that means the most. 513 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,843 That's why I'm here. 514 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,245 You know, that's why we're all here. 515 00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:55,114 We're not punching the clock, that's one thing. 516 00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,215 Like, we don't mail it in. 517 00:26:57,349 --> 00:26:59,351 I get to go out and, you know, 518 00:26:59,418 --> 00:27:00,552 with my brothers. 519 00:27:03,489 --> 00:27:06,192 [crowd cheering] 520 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,368 [Vicky] I was really upset for a long time. 521 00:27:20,072 --> 00:27:21,440 At some point, you realize you, 522 00:27:21,507 --> 00:27:23,976 you're gonna run outta money. 523 00:27:24,043 --> 00:27:27,146 I wanted a family, I wanted to be a mom. 524 00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:29,548 I wanted some other things. 525 00:27:31,117 --> 00:27:34,120 I decided to go back to school. 526 00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:37,656 I enjoyed using that side of my brain. 527 00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:44,230 You study, you do the work, you take your A, 528 00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:46,232 and you say, "Yeah!" 529 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,971 It's exactly what I hoped it would be. 530 00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:55,307 I go home, I do what I want, spend time with my family. 531 00:27:55,374 --> 00:27:58,077 [guitar music] 532 00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:08,520 In 2013, 533 00:28:08,587 --> 00:28:09,856 I met Justin. 534 00:28:11,657 --> 00:28:14,093 And just hit it off. 535 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,864 You know, sparks flying, it was crazy. 536 00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:20,199 We went to Vegas, 537 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,768 and we got married. 538 00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,503 Everybody was like, "What?" 539 00:28:26,272 --> 00:28:29,341 ["Your Place In The Sun" by Janet Gardner playing] 540 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,215 [Janet] He's this amazing guitarist. 541 00:28:36,282 --> 00:28:37,483 Great writer. 542 00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:40,619 We've put out three albums. 543 00:28:40,686 --> 00:28:42,254 ♪ Don't waste your time on their petty ways ♪ 544 00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:44,190 [Janet] We're working on album number four. 545 00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:48,060 I can't even tell you 546 00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:50,029 how good it feels 547 00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:53,532 to have the person that you love the most in the world 548 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:57,669 also be your absolute favorite musical partner in the world. 549 00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:01,808 [metal music] 550 00:29:08,781 --> 00:29:10,416 This is... 551 00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:12,651 the building I lived in with Guns N' Roses, 552 00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:14,753 when I managed them. 553 00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:17,256 It's this one, it's at the bottom, here. 554 00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,827 Hey. - You wanna come in? 555 00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:22,428 Yeah, let us in. 556 00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:24,563 Looking back on it, I didn't realize 557 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:26,933 how crazy it really was. 558 00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:30,002 Now, it's, like, I have a lawyer, 559 00:29:30,069 --> 00:29:31,637 and she makes me wrap 560 00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:34,240 everything really tightly in paper. 561 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,008 You know what your kryptonite is? 562 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:39,812 Your kryptonite is musicians. 563 00:29:39,879 --> 00:29:42,514 You lived with the whole band in this apartment? 564 00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:44,516 Yeah. - It is very small. 565 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,618 Could you, sorry. 566 00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:48,955 [Vicky] I've, like, put up with so much bullshit in my life 567 00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:51,457 that I'm not willing to put up with it anymore. 568 00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:02,568 Everybody hits a bottom to quit. 569 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:06,772 Getting sober 570 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,208 was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. 571 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:12,678 I cried every day for, like, six months. 572 00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:15,814 It was awful. 573 00:30:15,882 --> 00:30:19,385 By the grace of God, I'm sober and I'm still here. 574 00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:23,522 A lot of my counterparts aren't. 575 00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:26,658 This wall has, like, all the bands' names on it. 576 00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:30,329 That have been in The Rainbow. 577 00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,365 In AA, they talk about the reason at the core 578 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:38,370 of your being why you are doing these things. 579 00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:41,240 Which is horrifying, you know? 580 00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:46,245 OK, why do these people treat me like a doormat? 581 00:30:46,312 --> 00:30:48,047 It's like, you know, 582 00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,883 I had to really reinvent myself 583 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:53,685 and find my own self-esteem to like 584 00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:55,787 move forward in this game. 585 00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,028 I wanna mention a couple people 586 00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:04,563 who were really responsible for taking this derelict, 587 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:06,765 fucked up, dysfunctional band, 588 00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:09,035 and seeing something in it early on. 589 00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:11,203 It was Vicky Hamilton, who tried to manage us 590 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:12,771 with all her heart. 591 00:31:12,838 --> 00:31:14,373 [Vicky] Slash and Steven thanked me 592 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,707 at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 593 00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:18,277 I wanna thank Vicky Hamilton. 594 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:21,380 That was the first time there had been any kind of 595 00:31:21,447 --> 00:31:23,782 acknowledgement that I had helped them. 596 00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:26,518 [playing Sweet Child O' Mine] 597 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,022 [Vicky] I do know what I did. 598 00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:33,559 And, to me, it doesn't matter what other people believe, 599 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,128 or say, or anything like that. 600 00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:38,364 I know what I did. 601 00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:40,032 Slash knows what I did, 602 00:31:40,099 --> 00:31:43,002 because he was there doing it with me, you know? 603 00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:55,581 [John] I guess I was around 50. 604 00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:58,784 And I was having like this midlife crisis. 605 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:00,619 My dad called me. 606 00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:04,957 And I was kind of taking stock in my life. 607 00:32:05,024 --> 00:32:06,758 I was sitting there talking to him, 608 00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,261 and I was saying things like, you know, 609 00:32:09,328 --> 00:32:12,331 all the shit that I've done, you know, 610 00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:15,501 the Scream, and Motley, and 611 00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:18,237 Ratt, and Union, 612 00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:20,106 and I'm 50 years old now. 613 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,942 nd I met this girl, but I'm living in her house. 614 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:25,577 I don't own anything. 615 00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:28,280 Like, I have nothing to show 616 00:32:28,347 --> 00:32:30,849 for all of the work that I've done 617 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:32,851 my whole life. 618 00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:34,953 But, my dad 619 00:32:35,021 --> 00:32:38,657 stopped me dead in my tracks, and he goes, "Listen." 620 00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:42,461 He said, "When I was a kid, I wanted to be an artist." 621 00:32:42,528 --> 00:32:44,796 And he goes, "I fell in love with your mother." 622 00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:48,634 "We got married and you came along shortly afterwards." 623 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:52,104 "My dream of being an artist, I put it aside." 624 00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:54,140 "I put on a suit and tie, 625 00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,941 and I went to work." 626 00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:59,011 He said, "You, on the other hand, 627 00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:01,713 you did everything you said you were gonna do." 628 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:03,782 "You made a lot of money." 629 00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,884 "You took care of your son." 630 00:33:05,951 --> 00:33:08,154 "You took care of your mother." 631 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,056 "You did it all 632 00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:15,294 playing your guitar exactly as you wanted." 633 00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,897 "You're a bigger man than I'll ever be." 634 00:33:18,964 --> 00:33:22,568 He put everything into perspective for me. 635 00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:24,903 But, I think that was the point where 636 00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:27,005 I finally got 637 00:33:27,073 --> 00:33:28,574 the seal of approval. 638 00:33:31,877 --> 00:33:33,512 When he did pass away, 639 00:33:33,579 --> 00:33:36,382 I found his old foot locker from the Army. 640 00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:40,052 And there was my dad's medals on one side, 641 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,988 and the whole rest of the footlocker was like, 642 00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:46,592 there was every fucking magazine that I had ever been in. 643 00:33:46,658 --> 00:33:50,062 Like, pictures circled, cut out. 644 00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:53,031 And it was like, you know what? 645 00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:55,134 I did OK. 646 00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:00,139 Life is good. 647 00:34:16,987 --> 00:34:20,592 [Kip] The universe dealt me a hell of a blow 648 00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,495 to put me in the place that I needed to be to 649 00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:25,797 achieve, 650 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:29,701 artistically, what I was capable of. 651 00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:32,304 I never thought it was in my reach to 652 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,340 have an orchestra play my music. 653 00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:36,108 I just wanted to do it, because, 654 00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:38,344 you know, I wanted to know the language. 655 00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,146 Studied for a long, long time, man, 656 00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,848 before I wrote anything good. 657 00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,551 Finally, I wrote this ballet called Ghosts, 658 00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:49,987 and I sent it to Chris Wheeldon, a world-renowned choreographer. 659 00:34:50,054 --> 00:34:51,723 And Chris called me back and said, 660 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:54,626 "I want to use it for San Francisco Ballet." 661 00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:56,328 Conversations with Nijinsky 662 00:34:56,395 --> 00:34:59,465 ended up getting nominated for a Grammy in 663 00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:01,800 contemporary classical composition. 664 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:11,910 I've just done it for the love of it, man. 665 00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:15,247 [audience applauding] 666 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:21,787 [orchestral music] 667 00:35:39,505 --> 00:35:42,007 There's very few classical composers you'll hear 668 00:35:42,073 --> 00:35:43,842 that can really make the orchestra rock 669 00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:45,177 like a rock band. 670 00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:53,519 [audience applauding] 671 00:35:58,624 --> 00:35:59,891 It's all been very surreal. 672 00:36:02,961 --> 00:36:05,931 To go into the ranks of a whole other genre 673 00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:08,099 and to really be embraced. 674 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:11,403 [audience applauding] 675 00:36:20,812 --> 00:36:22,381 [Lonn] The '80s metal genre 676 00:36:22,448 --> 00:36:24,783 was so much about having a good time. 677 00:36:24,850 --> 00:36:27,453 It was about getting laid, 678 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,622 and getting loud, and drunk, 679 00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:34,092 and not worrying about the pressures of society so much. 680 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,428 Just, kind of letting it go. 681 00:36:36,495 --> 00:36:38,230 Having an escape. 682 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:43,835 In the last like 10 years, the country music scene 683 00:36:43,902 --> 00:36:46,972 has adopted that whole zeitgeist. 684 00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:48,674 [crowd cheering] 685 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,577 [man speaks indistinctly] - [crowd cheers] 686 00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:54,580 [Riki] Have you people been to a country concert lately? 687 00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:58,350 Country is now the '80s, '90s rock and roll. 688 00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:00,252 ♪ Baby you're a song ♪ 689 00:37:00,319 --> 00:37:02,821 ♪ You make me wanna roll my windows down ♪ 690 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,956 ♪ And cruise ♪ 691 00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:06,992 ♪ When this country cutie with a rock and roll booty ♪ 692 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,328 ♪ Came struttin' in through the door ♪ 693 00:37:09,395 --> 00:37:11,697 [Riki] Now they're singing about meeting the girls, 694 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:13,999 and partying with your friends. 695 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,668 ♪ You can find me in the back of a jacked-up tailgate ♪ 696 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,537 You know, "We're gonna pull in the river 697 00:37:18,604 --> 00:37:20,672 and drink on my, drink in my truck." 698 00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,541 ♪ And I'll find peace ♪ 699 00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:24,209 ♪ At the bottom of a real tall cold drink ♪ 700 00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:27,713 "With a drink in my hand, and she was so fine." 701 00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,154 [Lonn] The songs that will live on from the '80s, 702 00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:37,823 in the same way that The Beatles, 703 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,891 and The Stones, and the Zeppelin songs live on. 704 00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,528 But the ones that we remember, 705 00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,697 they define the groups that define the era. 706 00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:51,570 ♪ Yeah, love is all around you ♪ 707 00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,573 [Riki] And you know what? It's not dead. 708 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,543 Because anytime I put on any record 709 00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,145 from that music that I wanna listen to, 710 00:38:00,211 --> 00:38:01,813 it still sounds fucking good. 711 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,015 ♪...just want you ♪ 712 00:38:04,082 --> 00:38:06,017 [Snake] Heavy metal music and hard rock music 713 00:38:06,084 --> 00:38:08,487 never, ever died. 714 00:38:08,554 --> 00:38:10,656 From the early Deep Purple records 715 00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:12,157 and Black Sabbath records, 716 00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:15,260 all the way through to today. 717 00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:19,064 Skid Row is still out playing to great audiences. 718 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,033 To this day, we still get people talking about 719 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,102 what that record meant to them. 720 00:38:24,169 --> 00:38:27,439 I'm so filled with gratitude 721 00:38:27,506 --> 00:38:30,776 to be a part of something that affected people 722 00:38:30,842 --> 00:38:32,778 on such a deep level. 723 00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:34,380 It's a pretty special thing. 724 00:38:34,446 --> 00:38:38,884 ["Love Song" by Tesla playing] 725 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:41,687 [Lonn] Metal never dies, it's like a virus. 726 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:44,356 Metal just comes back as a different variant. 727 00:38:44,423 --> 00:38:45,624 ♪ I wanna rock ♪ 728 00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:47,025 ♪ Rock ♪ 729 00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,760 You're into metal? I'm into metal. 730 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,429 You're into metal? I'm into metal. 731 00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:53,331 We're gonna thrash! 732 00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:58,236 [Lonn] The real metal fans, they're still around. 733 00:38:58,303 --> 00:38:59,371 Metal. 734 00:38:59,438 --> 00:39:01,773 ["Sweet Child O' Mine" plays] 735 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,742 Stop. You're in. 736 00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,844 Oh, cool. - What's in your wallet? 737 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,581 [Peacemaker] Oh, this is my jam. 738 00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:11,783 You know, this is back when men were real men, 739 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,819 'cause they weren't afraid to be women. 740 00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:16,087 [Katherine] So, definitely, in the last five years, 741 00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:19,157 I have noticed the resurgence. 742 00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:22,327 Motley Crue has un-retired and is back on the road. 743 00:39:22,394 --> 00:39:26,998 Cut to today, the teachers unions are singing-- 744 00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:30,101 ♪ We're not gonna take it ♪ 745 00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,804 ♪ No, we ain't gonna take it ♪ 746 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,608 "No, we ain't gonna take it." And, it's just amazing. 747 00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:39,445 [Riki] I'm always gonna be that guy from Headbanger's Ball. 748 00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,448 This show is much more important than I even realized. 749 00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:46,652 I'm so proud and blessed to have been part of that. 750 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:51,089 ♪ Love will find a way ♪ 751 00:39:51,156 --> 00:39:53,925 [Snake] I wasn't raised in an environment 752 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,661 or with the ethos that 753 00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:58,830 it was a birthright to be successful. 754 00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:00,666 It's a gift. 755 00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:03,469 It's an absolute gift, and you need to treat it as such. 756 00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:06,538 Whatever good comes your way, 757 00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:08,540 take it as such. 758 00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:10,175 There's gonna be bad times. 759 00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:12,177 You just gotta get through 'em. 760 00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:15,213 [Vicky] Music changes people's lives. 761 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,449 Make the world better through music, 762 00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:20,385 that's kind of my philosophy. 763 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,689 Figure out something to say that's going to save the world. 764 00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,223 You know? 765 00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:26,625 Because we need it. 766 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:32,163 Life is as it should be. I don't regret anything. 767 00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:34,866 'Cause everything that I've done 768 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,002 has led me to this point, 769 00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:40,071 right now, talking to you. 770 00:40:40,138 --> 00:40:43,475 And, cut. [laughs] 771 00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:44,610 And that's a wrap. 772 00:40:47,312 --> 00:40:49,981 Yeah, thank you, guys. 773 00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:52,017 ♪ I know ♪ 774 00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:05,531 [John] Wanna put a little acoustic down? 775 00:41:05,597 --> 00:41:07,298 [man] Sure. 776 00:41:20,145 --> 00:41:27,085 ♪ She wakes up on the wrong side of the bed alone ♪ 777 00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:31,890 ♪ Thinks about the time that's passed her by ♪ 778 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,562 Oh, my God! 779 00:41:36,628 --> 00:41:39,364 [guitar music] 780 00:41:50,676 --> 00:41:52,611 [crew member] This is Diablo, take one. 781 00:41:52,678 --> 00:41:54,279 My name's Kip. - Oh... 782 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,414 [guitar music] 783 00:42:06,658 --> 00:42:09,595 ♪ She's only 48 ♪ 784 00:42:14,165 --> 00:42:16,034 Ah! 785 00:42:20,839 --> 00:42:22,574 Oh! Eww! 786 00:42:22,641 --> 00:42:26,678 Gonna put my parent's video on Instagram. 787 00:42:26,745 --> 00:42:28,446 My wife says, "You don't drink enough water." 788 00:42:28,513 --> 00:42:30,281 I said, "What do you mean?" 789 00:42:30,348 --> 00:42:32,250 "They put water in those coffee machines, don't they?" 790 00:42:32,317 --> 00:42:33,619 I just like my water over coffee beans 791 00:42:33,685 --> 00:42:36,855 before it gets into me. 792 00:42:36,922 --> 00:42:38,523 I picked the wrong role model. 793 00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,626 I wanted to be Keith Richards. 794 00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:43,629 I realize, now, only one guy gets to be Keith Richards, 795 00:42:43,695 --> 00:42:46,197 and that's Keith Richards. 796 00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:48,934 I felt like the bands that I was in 797 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,536 were not managed the way I would manage the band. 798 00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:53,605 And so, that I started managing because 799 00:42:53,672 --> 00:42:55,473 it was kind of do-it-yourself. 800 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:58,076 [guitar music] 801 00:43:12,858 --> 00:43:15,393 ♪ A love that will never be ♪ 802 00:43:17,696 --> 00:43:19,898 [song ends] 60417

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