All language subtitles for The.Real.Housewives.of.Atlanta.S16E20

Tonight is part three of the Real
Housewives of Atlanta reunion.

Drew, are you or are you not Michael
Jordan's cousin? In my head, absolutely.

In your head?

I said you could have ruined my
engagement. You would have played a

would have ruined my engagement. I
kissed Ken in the club. You kissed Ken

club. Didn't they say they both kissed
Katie?

Charles, do you remember meeting
Phaedra? No.

I've been in several rooms with him.
That's not meeting me, though.

You had mentioned that you was trying to
holler at her too.

Wow. I never.

Charles, when did you date our friend
Sheree?

Okay, Andy.

What? Everybody want to know about me.
What about Charles? I'm the only husband

here. Where y 'all husbands at?

Part three of the Real Housewives of
Atlanta reunion starts now.

Shamia, I saw a person did a birthday
post for you. Yeah, that was really

And she continued her smear campaign
right after that. I did not.

Why are you fighting with me? Why are
you fighting with me?

Because you're lying.

And you don't think you've been lying
too? About what? What have I lied about?

You posted about my mom saying she did
something egregious to your mom. She

absolutely did. First of all, why are
you even rushing off my mom? What did

do? Girl, I've never. And any time
people ask me about your mom, I say,

not my business. What happened?

My mom and her mom, they were best
friends. They were both in the child

industry, and they both, you know, gave
tips to each other back and forth. My

mom, now her location was going under
foreclosure, and her mom went behind my

mom's back, and she bought it as soon as
it went on foreclosure. That is

definitely true. Stop.

This is how my mom found out that her
mom bought her best friend's business,

when we drove past it. And they were
taking down my mom's sign, putting up

mother's sign.

They weren't talking for years prior to
my mom buying that business. That's

absolutely not true.

You're lying right now. That is not
true. They were not talking for some

stuff that happened that I don't want to
speak on.

Another great lie. That's not true.

Why did they initially? I don't want to
speak on it because then it's really

going to go loose. Okay. That mom stuff
is deep -rooted. Okay, hold on. It did

not just start with a daycare purchase.
I understand.

I'm not going to even ask about it. No,
no, no. I think the mom thing. Okay. It

shouldn't even come up. Hold on. Hold
on. It's not good. There's a few things

happening here.

There is chatter that happened behind
each other's back.

Not each other's. Okay. Not each other's
for sure because she doesn't stop

behind your back. I didn't stop behind
your back. With Britt. Okay, hold on.

Hold on. She was just coming to tell me
what you said.

Just so you know, Shamia, Britt was the
one that said that you were showing text

messages. He showed me text messages
between the two of you guys that said

were dealing with your divorce and your
attorney said this was the best time

where you need to deal with yourself.

In that moment, Portia kind of like let
it go.

Y 'all stuff goes way back before the
show. We have a beautiful relationship

prior to this show. Yes. Once we started
filming, she took it to the left. OK. I

took it to the left. It was all me. Hold
on.

Is there anything that happened during
the season that you can apologize for or

take ownership for right now? OK, let's
hear it. I apologize. I do own talking

about my friendship problems with Portia
to these ladies.

Why? Because I wish I had a third party
there. I wish I had somebody on my side.

Y 'all said she feels the friendship was
lopsided, but these are things that y

'all were feeling.

And that's what I said.

No, but when y 'all said it, no, but
when it was taken to Portia, it was

like, this is how I feel.

When we went to lunch, there was never a
question asked to you by me or Angela

about the nature of your relationship
with Portia. It almost felt like you

needed to get this out.

Like, you found a safe space to share.
Apparently I didn't. Well, I never took

it back. I said something.

So my point is that you had a pinky
swear because you wanted to divulge

and it was something heavy on you. So
the pinky swear represented, like,

don't repeat this. Okay, all right.

It almost sounds to me like you have had
a harder time with what's happened

after the show.

Yes, there's a friendship group that we
have, a private friendship group.

Right? Yeah. There are two ladies from
that friendship group. She told them

I didn't want her to be a peach holder,
that I didn't congratulate her.

So our private friends is echoing the
same thing that you said here.

These ladies have come to me and told me
that you did not want me on the show,

that you wanted me as a friend to the
show. So I'm going to say it's not true.

Now you are lying.

Andy, have I always wanted Shamia to be
on the show as a housewife? Yes. Yes. So

moving on from that, now I'm watching
live interviews.

Someone asked, Where does our friendship
stand?

You say, well, now that I have a peach,
it's different. Well, why?

It is. I've never talked about you,
Shamia. And I'm watching interviews of

saying, I didn't want you on the show.
You sang the song of I was trying to

sabotage your marriage or your
engagement or whatever.

Girl, are you serious? serious right
now? Y 'all had that conversation

saying that I was screwing Candy and Ty.
I didn't do that to myself.

But nobody was sabotaging your marriage.
I said you could have ruined my

engagement. You would have played a part
in sabotaging your own engagement at

that time.

Because this is the thing.

That happened in 2016.

And she's talking about it in interviews
now. No, no, no.

You just didn't bring this shit up. You
don't know all this stuff about

interviews. Hold on. Hold on.

I do just as many press as you do, okay?
And possibly more because I've been on

the show a little bit more. Right?

And that wasn't a dick, so no, this
means a mm. It's kind of a dick a little

bit. It was a dick, but OK, go ahead.
What I'm saying is I've been asked the

exact same questions that you were being
asked, and I have never disparaged our

relationship. I thought we had a
beautiful friendship.

I thought we had a great friendship too,
but then I found out that you didn't

come to the wedding in Kenya because we
were beefing. All right.

Kelly, you and Shamia have become very
close. I know that.

What's your reaction to it?

Me and Shamia have built a beautiful
bond, a beautiful friendship with each

other. And I always tell her, I really
hope and pray that her and Portia can

just figure this all out. I just want
you to tell her how you really feel.

is your moment to tell her. This is not
her moment. You know what her moment

was? It is her moment. Let her have her
moment. You know what her moment was?

It's her moment. When I called her and I
talked to her about it. It's her

moment. Let her have her moment. It's a
beat up on. Oh, you know what? This is

so, girl. Let her have a moment.
Continue. When we sat one -on -one, I

we had a clean slate and we were moving
forward in the right direction. Seemed

like it.

Then I noticed she was distancing
herself from me, even down around

funeral time.

I'm reaching out. I'm like, hey, can we
link up? Girl, I'm grieving.

I didn't go. I understand.

And I'm not trying to discredit that.
All I'm trying to say is I continue to

to reach out to hang out and hook up.
See, even that, like, it's that kind of

stuff that... Because you're just using
things against me. Can you ever phrase a

sentence without trying to make me look
bad? She always feels like I'm using

stuff against her when really I'm just
trying to express myself.

Okay. I'm not... I'm not here to try to
hurt Portia, right?

I'm not here to, like she said, try to
sabotage her. Too late. This is so

difficult to even just have a
conversation. OK.

I wouldn't have even known that there
was any beef unless Cynthia didn't tell

me. I told Portia, like, what Britt had
done.

After that, I saw them hanging out, them
posting. I'm like, all right, cool.

She's made her decision.

A decision that had nothing to do with
her. It made me feel like. What you did

was what you did. All right. You didn't
go be friends with Kelly because we're

not friends. You're friends with Kelly
because you like Kelly.

I think the friendship's a little
different. Well, I think it's odd for

go sit after you and Britt had the
conversation about me. I think your

friendship with Britt is very
calculated.

Britt's not your friend. Britt could
care less about what you got going on.

on, hold on, hold on.

Cynthia, where can these two go?

The love is there, but it just feels
like the healing hasn't happened. And

when you come on a platform like this,
everything is magnified. And if that

foundation is not solid, you guys are
going to crack. It just is what it is.

Take baby steps to walk back toward each
other. Please don't throw this

friendship away. Is there something that
you need to hear from each other that

would help either of you?

No. This year was the most difficult
year ever.

It really was.

I'm literally at the bottom.

Depleted. Okay? So at this space and
time in my life, I want to be exactly

I feel comfortable.

And I do not feel comfortable within my
friendship with Shamia, as I'm sure she

doesn't feel comfortable with me either.
I am only human, and I can only do so

much. And I don't have anything else to
offer to this right now. All right.

That's real. Okay, that's real.

How do you take that?

So I think that's the difference between
the two of us because even at times

where I didn't have the bandwidth to
deal with it because I had my own shit

happening, I would find the bandwidth to
deal with it because I had that type of

love for Portia.

So much so to where people call me her
lap dog. Okay. So it hurts me that she

thinks I came on the show to sabotage
her.

Ultimately, I just want peace for both
of us, you know?

You take that?

Oh, yes.

Yay. All right.

OK.

Shamia, I think, you know, one of the
lessons of this season and tonight is

when you feel a certain way, I think for
your own benefit, you have to figure

out a way to vocalize it. Yeah. Don't
laugh at all. If you're hurt, it's OK to

be hurt. Because it's diverting in a
million different ways, but it still

exists. And for your friendships.

With Portia and everybody else, it's
only going to suit you to say, you

pissed me off when you did that. I'm
hurt.

So you can move forward. And it's the
backbone of an honest relationship, you

know? I own that. I accept that.

And I'm going to work on that. I think
that naturally, just when I got a lot

happening in my life, I just don't have
it in me, right? So I choose to just

move past it.

I'm going to sweep it under the rug.

And it's OK.

it's coping right because it's like i
don't have it to deal with it now i know

but you see how that plays out yeah
coming up next

to me it became a little weird just
because you had mentioned that you were

trying to highlight her too wow you are
not gonna come on here and start your

line

Hey, Dylan, how you think today's gonna
be?

Man, you know when the girls beefing,
man, you gotta stay out of it. You know,

you gotta let women handle their own
business.

But I'm here to support baby mama and
Drew.

That's family, man. We gonna keep it
positive and we gonna keep it moving.

We are back with the Real Housewives of
Atlanta reunion.

Drew, this season we watched you battle
with a divorce that seems to have no end

in sight and an ex -husband that is
banished in the basement.

Will you be able to sing your way out of
this sad song?

Let's watch.

I consider it the lower level penthouse.

Ralph being banished in the basement, I
was expecting him to take that

opportunity to move out and do the
things that really excite him, which is

out in the streets.

I am officially going to sign my
recording deal.

This is a time to celebrate all of the
hard work.

Allegedly, you told Portia that...

I wanted to get with you in exchange for
free studio time.

I don't know why you would listen to
that. You know, we do real business. We

don't talk about allegedly.

This is all fabricated lies yet again.

Serious cheater taking money out of your
account.

Tracking me. Tracking you. All that's
private. But when the case gets

it's out.

The judge's ruling was to unseal our
divorce case.

He still gets the basement.

Is this a joke?

I don't have to leave.

Idiot. You're a dumbass. I want you to
know that.

The court didn't take the kids into
consideration.

They're not even listening to me
anymore.

OK, OK. I'm sorry. I need to know that
my kids are not the same.

So, Drew, since that conversation with
your mom about your kids, have you seen

any improvement in their behavior?

Well, since then, the kids are all in
therapy.

I took that step to. Good. Yeah. And I
can say that it's helping. Yeah. As a

mom, all you want is the best for your
kids. Yeah. And I started to even tell

myself, like, this is normal. You know
what I mean? There's no dysfunction

So for my mom to come in and be an
outsider looking in, it was like very

apparent for her. Yeah.

Ralph tweeted that your mom needed to
watch her mouth because after your dad's

death, she spent all his money and Ralph
had to bail her out. These men, now

they get disrespectful and a divorce.

That was a new low.

My father was a prominent pediatrician
in the city of Chicago.

You're now coming against his legacy.

My mom had an anxiety attack.

my marital issues start to affect my
mom. Yeah, a whole new storm. There was

recent clip of you and Ralph cooking
together. Mm -hmm.

Oh, yeah. That went viral. You two
seemed really happy.

That video was an effort of us trying to
co -parent.

But the caption he wrote was alluding to
like, oh, she called me daddy in the

kitchen off camera, which never
happened.

So he took that moment that could have
been positive for us to move into this

new normal of co -parenting, and he used
it to make it appear to be something

that it just, it wasn't. I honestly
thought it was.

Cute to see you guys just being happy,
not thinking, oh, you know, they should

get back together. But it just was nice
to see you guys having fun together.

Yeah. And living in a house with a man
who cooked, girl, get your food. You

your steaks were pretty good. I've
always loved the meat, not the sausage

but I love the ribeye. And it was good.

At some point, he's going to come
upstairs.

And we know divorcing can be long, hard,
and dry.

So at some point, you're going to be, he
might come up the stairs after.

Or she may go downstairs.

She has cameras in the basement first
and foremost.

Oh. That'd make it better.

Right.

Lonnie from Philadelphia said, Drew, the
judge has given you and Ralph the

weirdest court orders from having Ralph
live in the basement to avoid telling

the kids you're divorcing.

What the hell is that about?

It's in the order. It's a public record.
Y 'all can go read it. It's normal, by

the way. As soon as you file for
divorce, everything's going to stay.

I lived upstairs with my ex for months.

But you recently said he had a woman
down there. With you there?

When I'm there, when I'm not there,
because you've seen someone on the

the basement, a woman?

You can get the manifesto. It's a gated
community?

Yeah, gated community.

So everyone that comes through, you have
to give your ID, and we get an alert on

the portal.

So you saw the picture in the driver's
license? I saw the name, and I looked

up on Instagram.

What? And when I went to lunch at
Aniyah's school, she was there.

What? And so, girl, the woman,

long story short, was mean mugging me
and approached me. Like, what's your

Uh -uh.

Ma 'am.

Coming up next.

I met you at Nick's wedding. I was
there. Okay, one second.

That does not mean me.

We are back with the Real Housewives of
Atlanta reunion.

Tredarius from Mansfield, Texas said,
why don't any of the women in this group

show any compassion for Drew during her
divorce? None of the women have checked

on her except for Angela.

But everyone is quick to show compassion
towards Portia. I was really actually

hoping that you and I could have hit it
off a little bit more. I think towards

the end, it was kind of more of a
connection.

Don't give me that face.

No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I didn't
really feel that. Angela, stay out of

it. This is a divorced woman
conversation. I want no parts. I want no

I mean, it sounds good, and I appreciate
you saying that today, but I feel like,

you know, you really didn't give us a
chance to get to know each other. You

just, like, throwing these things out
and being real loud and feisty to me,

I'm like, girl, you don't even know me,
and throwing out the liar narrative. I

didn't hear anything.

Well, you said the liar, but it felt
like you were trying for a moment.

I wasn't trying for a moment. I never
need a moment.

Let's clear the air on why I considered
you a liar.

When you came to my Balmain event and we
were at the bank, you said you

purchased something.

You did not purchase anything.

And I did. You did not. I purchased
multiple things, not at the event. They

not have his size.

So you did not. So I talked to the
shopper. He found the size. So we were

texting. So the thing went through
later.

Thank you.

And I'm not trying to speak poorly, but
I will say the thing of the event was if

you purchase at the event, some of the
proceeds go to osteogenesis imperfecta.

Correct. Even Portia spent her attorney
money out there.

I purchased it and I showed you. Had you
had a real conversation and said, well,

it didn't go a part of the foundation, I
could have made sure that it did or

made a donation to your foundation. But
that's what I was saying, Drew.

Okay, it sounds like you're both right.

She didn't purchase it at your event.

Okay, okay.

All right.

Okay, Drew, are you or are you not
Michael Jordan's cousin?

Okay.

In my head, absolutely.

In your head? And y 'all got to laugh a
little more because my last name is Drew

Jordan.

It's a joke, guys.

Lana from D .C. said, Shamia, why was it
okay for you to twist Drew's words

regarding Pilar?

But Angela was held to a higher standard
when she relayed her conversation with

Shamia back to Portia. These royalties
and the way this publishing is set up,

that's going to pay for PJ's whole
college.

Now I know PJ's college has already been
paid for.

How did you take it, how Shamia related
back versus how you saw it on TV?

It was...

cringy, but it didn't piss me off. But
the way I had been told you said it, it

did piss me off originally.

And it was going to draw a bigger wedge
between us, honestly. I said mind my

business and keep my mouth closed. Yeah,
you should, because what actually

happened was you asked me the question,
and you said it, and you said it, and

you said it. Oh, you should go fighting
for her life, honey, in this friendship.

Fighting for her life. If y 'all cool
with it, I'm cool with it. I'm going to

mind my business. And you should.

I will. I mean, moving forward is
probably a good idea.

Okay. Elizabeth from Baltimore, Maryland
said, Drew, you seemed upset that

Shamia and Portia went out to eat with
Ralph. Is that hypocritical when Portia

felt it was wrong for you to shoot with
Dennis?

You sat there and kiki with someone who
is publicly humiliating me, who you have

seen his behavior. Portia, I came to
your birthday party when we filmed your

spinoff.

And you know, because I cried to you
about how Ralph left me. I thought it

fake, Drew.

You're not even using your brain because
I called you and I talked to you,

though. I can't give up with the lies
with you and him.

There's no lies, honey.

A marriage is not black and white.

When it comes to some of the drama you
promote.

Victoria from Brooklyn said, Shamia, why
did you set up Portia to meet with

Ralph to get back at Drew? You don't
like her calling you a lapdog.

But that was lapdog behavior.

It was.

I mean, she done called me lapdog the
whole season. So it's like, OK, well,

me act like one. I mean, initially, it
was. Let that go. I mean, no, I'm not,

because she keeps saying it. And
honestly, for me, I just feel like I'm

loyal friend like you were to her.

No, but that don't, I'm too big for
anybody now. I think we're all good.

I think we're all good. I think we're
all good.

I think we're all good.

It's been good. It's been good over
there.

She said I'm too big to spit on anybody.
Okay.

Twitter said, Drew, in a recent
interview, you admitted to sending

to Ty.

Her ex also said you both spoke for an
average of 3 ,000 minutes a month.

Is this the main reason you're getting a
divorce?

We have remained to say that we're
friends.

But first of all, I think if you do the
math, 3 ,000 minutes or whatever is not

really that much time.

3 ,000 minutes a month? I'm married.

We've been talking about this for 3 ,000
minutes.

Did we see a receipt on that?

Like, people can throw out things.

Does it always make it true? That's
about 10 minutes a day. I would be in a

relationship if I was on the phone with
somebody that long.

OK. So who exactly is Black, and are you
dating him?

He is a friend, like I said before.

He owns the number one hookah company in
the world.

And that's my friend.

What would be the issue if they were
dating?

At the end of the day, do your thing.
You two were FaceTiming a lot backstage,

right? We were. And actually, Andy, can
I present everybody with?

OK.

You got us a hookah, girl. You got us a
free hookah for free.

OK, look.

Take one. So, I mean, this makes it seem
like you're dating if you're promoting

this product. This is my friend. He has
a lot of friends who promote his

business. It's no nicotine, no tobacco.

Go ahead. Go ahead.

Just do it.

OK.

Heather from Cambridge, Mass said, Drew,
if you were dating someone, why didn't

you just come clean in order to shut
down the rumors about you wanting the

dog man?

Oh, God.

Dennis is not my type. I mean, if you
look at, you know, Ralph and you see his

physique. What's that?

I mean, how are you going to come for my
friend now? Why are you catching

strays? Why are you catching strays?

If you were dating someone, would you
bring them on the show?

Absolutely. When I have a boyfriend, I
will be so happy to share.

I will be, no, no, no.

Or you, because I heard you know.

Oh, yeah.

You and Ty, girl. If I find me and Ty,
she might be sitting right behind me.

2 .0 Indians.

All right.

We're going to leave it there.

She knows all about it. We're going to
take a break so we can all sit on

Angela's lap.

I have receipts about Portia being a
buckhead on a date.

What? Who African, girl?

It was some African.

Y 'all was in Buckhead. Oh, it's
probably true. Yeah, I know, girl. I

girl. I like my African. I know, girl.
You love your African.

Coming up next, did you tell Portia that
Drew wanted to sleep with you?

Absolutely not.

So what was the text then? You said, I'm
trying to get money. I'm not trying to.

Yeah. But that, for the record, was not
from me.

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
Atlanta season 16 reunion.

Joining us are the men.

Hey, guys.

Dennis, you and Portia are not matching
tonight.

Yeah, why? I sent you a picture of what
I was wearing.

I did my best.

Okay. Ralph, you have your shirt on
tonight?

Today. Okay.

All right.

We invited Gerald tonight. Where is
Gerald? He's at home with his kids.

But he sent some beautiful yellow roses.

To you? Yes. Not to nobody else in here.
Okay.

You couldn't get a sitter?

That he's just not, you know, it's not
his thing, you know?

Well, I got to tell you something. In
all my years doing The Housewives, never

thought I'd see the enforcer here,
Charles Oakley. Enforcer!

Sometimes you need an enforcer, but I'm
here to support my wife. She's going to

kill it.

And I'm going to kill it.

Well, he'll kill you.

OK, come on.

Charles.

You can still win the group.

She ain't got a chance with me.

Andy!

Let me start with Dennis here. Dennis,
clear this up. Did you talk to Portia

about working with Drew?

We had a small conversation, but, you
know, I talked to Ralph first because

that's my brother, so I would assume
that Drew would handle the woman's side.

Are you saying you asked me?

Or no?

We talked about working together.

You told me that.

We didn't have an in -depth conversation
because...

I felt like it was Drew's place to clear
that part, you know, considering we're

all friends.

But you told me you talked to Portia
because I was expressing to you that I

trying to call Portia, have the
conversation. You said, we had a

She's good.

He didn't.

I didn't fully confront him about you
guys doing anything until I found out

about the filming.

Can you acknowledge that I told you that
I had something that I wanted to talk

to you about? But just say what you want
to talk about. Just say, hey, I know

we're going into the season. I'm going
to film within it. That's an easy take.

Can you acknowledge that I made the
attempts and you were aware? That's what

asking you. Your attempts to me was a
kiki about the new girls.

No. You asked me did I know anything
about the new girls, and I said...

No, you need to call me because I've
been telling you I need to talk to you

about this. We covered this a little
bit.

You need to acknowledge that.

And Dennis told me that he talked to
you. So I don't know what Dennis is on,

what type of time. That she was trying
to reach out to you. Yes, that's the

point. That she was trying to reach out
to you. And you said that. That happens

with anybody.

You also said that. Not you trying to
bait me.

But you said that. And I apologize for
that in Grenada, but I'm talking about

the attempts that were made. But I'm
asking you to take accountability for

attempts that I made and you just...

weren't it's not gonna happen moving on
moving on moving on

Dennis when confronted about mentioning
that drew wanted to sleep with you in

exchange for music you kind of dodged
owning up saying that did you tell

that drew wanted to sleep with you
absolutely not So what was the text

text read as, I'm trying to get some
money.

That's what the text was. I'm trying to
get money. I'm not trying to F.

That's what the text said verbatim. He
says, I told Drew I wouldn't F her and

run me my money. Wait a minute. Let me
see. Wait a minute. Yeah, I missed that

little part.

But that, for the record, was not. So
he's denying it now. OK.

Like, Rafa's my friend in real life. So
to even insinuate.

A relationship outside of music is
ridiculous.

So what were you responding to when you
said, I don't want no peace? I don't

even know if the text said that exactly.
Oh, it did.

I saw the text message. OK. What did it
say?

Just exactly what Portia said.

I didn't know exactly what the
relationship was.

But to me, it became a little weird just
because, you know, Drew had mentioned

that she was trying to holler at her,
too.

I never.

You are not going to come on here and
start your lying. No, no, no, no. I am

going to. I'm not going to lie about
anything. Dennis has never been

inappropriate. I never said that to you.
You never said that. So for you to say

that out your lying face right now. I
don't lie.

That's one thing I'm not doing. No, no.
Like, try to do the right thing. You

come here. You got dressed up and you're
all white. You get to Beijing.

You know, you want to come for the
cameras. And every time you come here,

the same thing. You lie.

And then you play this victim. It's not
cute, bro.

I don't understand why so much energy,
though. Oh, you're going to get all this

smoke. That's what you came here for. I
love it. Come on. OK.

Dennis, do you see yourself getting back
together with Portia?

I mean, you know, I love Portia. And she
backed on the market, so you never

know.

What's your reaction to Portia and
Shamia's relationship over the last

You know, we family for real.

Me and Gerald are really good friends.
So, you know, it's sad to see. But I've

been around also long enough to stay out
of women's business because tomorrow

they could be cool. So that's what I'm
hoping for.

It's been said that you took Britt out
on a date. You bought her a chain.

He came on the date, brought me a
diamond necklace as a gift.

And you slid into Kelly's DMs. Dennis
was in my DMs. What? Oh.

I mean, I heard what Kelly said, but she
ain't tell the rest of the half, but

it's all good. Well, what's the rest of
the half?

I mean, bread was a long time ago, you
know, before I even run around Portia.

What's the rest of the half? I'm still
waiting for the other part. I mean, I'm

gentleman. It's all good.

Stop it, Dennis.

Let's be very clear. We never been out
or done anything or talked on the phone.

You might have called once or twice.

Okay, well, you just said we never
talked on the phone. I said, I mean,

twice. You know, he had to call like,
hey, you.

You outside.

You want to get inside.

Finish trying to get inside.

I've been knowing Kelly for a long time.
More about business, though. Let's be

very clear. Business.

When I'm saying conversations like that,
it's more of that.

It's nothing in regards to that. OK.

Ralph, Drew revealed that she found out
about you bringing a woman into the

basement. It's not even true.

It's not true? It's not true at all. She
told me that she came to the house.

Anybody that comes into the gate, that
doesn't mean that they came inside of my

house. So she was just visiting somebody
in the neighborhood?

No, no, no. She came to the house. To
your house? No, no, no, no, no, no. But

she didn't come inside.

She was outside with Kelly?

No, no, no, because... No, it wasn't
that. She was working on a fitness

so it was all about just fitness
content. It was fitness content?

When these cameras are off, you're like,
you love me. You know what I'm saying?

So you got this on -camera, off -camera
thing, and that is really confusing to

me. At the end of the day, man, I love
you. I'm not here to be your enemy.

I just want to make sure we raise our
beautiful kids. We created something

amazing together.

And I love you for that.

Aw. Yeah.

Because we was mad at you, Ralph, before
you came out.

We saw you feeding Drew's steak.

Yeah, that's who we are when there's no
camera.

Those are great words. So I appreciate
that. I would love to see those actions

to back up those words, you know. But
the energy that I have is because of the

press tour that you've been on, tweeting
the things about my mom and my dad.

But you hugged me after that. And
without an apology. You apologized to

what you said about her mom?

No.

Why not?

I was there when they were in a place
where they lost everything, and I was

there to pick up the pieces.

But if you go through a situation like a
divorce, I think there should be

something to where it's like, hey, you
know what?

I'm going to just stay out of this one.

You know, I'm praying for both of you
guys because I love both of you. So you

didn't apologize to the mom?

Oh, but I will, you know, because it
really wasn't. I think it's more of a

conversation. I think it really is a
conversation that I probably would love

have with your mother just because I
believe that, you know, there is a lot

there. I mean, I'm not going to say that
going through a divorce, I feel like

everyone always focuses on the woman, of
course, naturally. It's all about the

woman. But men go through things as
well, you know. Men have their different

points where they, struggle.

And sometimes they actually say things
that are not nice, you know? And so

therefore, I apologize about that
particular aspect of it. But I do

there's more of a conversation that
could be had just because I do believe

we are bigger than that. I think we've
had more of an established relationship.

I looked at our text messages from way
back in the day, you know? And there was

so much love there. So to see that just
diminish.

It was kind of sad to me and it was
hurtful. If I can say from Dennis and

relationship and, you know, just as
small advice, and I'm sure you could

this.

We weren't married, but we were engaged,
and so our families were very

intertwined. And at the end of the day,
people do choose sides, you know what

I'm saying? And mothers can say things
that they probably shouldn't say in the

moment, protecting their child, because
they see their child hurt, they may not

be concerned about the other one.

So at the end of the day, apology is
great, but Dennis had to do the work and

have a conversation with my mom. And I
had to do the work and have a

conversation with his mom.

And now, because we have a child and you
guys have kids, That's what has to

happen in order to continue that village
for the kids.

So even though it's hard and pride and
like hurt and like being feeling like

you're alone and misunderstood and like,
what about my side?

We really have to set that aside to put
those kids first. So when you make that

call, just keep your kids in mind first.
Just keep your kids in mind. And then

just temper what you say before you say
it. And I had to do it. Dennis had to do

it. We have worked very hard at this co
-parenting relationship.

That's why we're both very protective of
it. But that's just a bit of advice

from your friends.

Do you think that Ralph should apologize
to her mom?

I think that that's absolutely needed.
Our mothers, when we are going through a

divorce, oh, my God.

Oh, my God. We as women, you guys don't
know, a divorce, a breakup, we would not

survive. Without our mothers. We
wouldn't. So I really, you know, just

respect for being the grandmother, I
would say, yeah, that's the best thing.

I would just add this, Ralph.

Just be very mindful what you put out on
social media, because then it just

brings everybody else into it. So I
would just say that.

Charles, have you watched the season?

Yes, I watched some shows.

How do you feel Angela did on the show?

I think she did great. She cried a
couple times, but just telling, hey, you

jumped in the pool, you got to know how
to swim.

Charles, there were a lot of moments
where Angela would be saying to you, do

miss me?

And you were kind of holding back a
little bit, which I think led to a

perception among some viewers that you
don't care for her very much. Give me a

kiss. I give a kiss.

Why do you give a kiss?

I'm not the guy who just be all over
Angela on TV. I don't try to put on for

cameras. And she know I love her, and I
wouldn't be if I didn't love her and the

kids. So, hey, keep watching.

I give it up to you, a man of your
profile especially. I mean, you showed

her over and over. I'm her husband, and
I thought I'd have her back.

And she's thick and thin, so it is what
it is. Yeah.

Charles, unfortunately, you and your
mother -in -law had a bit of a rough

before her passing. She told Angela that
she felt bad and she intended to

apologize to you for the blow -up. How
did it feel to see that on camera?

I hate that it happened with me with our
mom, because I love all the moms in the

world, because I had one, and she's 90
years old.

You know, it's just, you know, I'm sorry
she left us.

And that's the state of mind.

And I really never had a sit -down
dinner. But I know Angela always telling

mom, saying she's sorry, she loves me,
this and that. So I accept apologies.

You know, like, she's not here. But I
would give anything to get my mom back,

course. But I'm happy that he got to see
on camera her

saying that she loves him. Yeah.

Sweet.

You know, Charles, a lot of the ladies
mentioned that they didn't know that you

were married.

Were you hiding that you had a wife?

No, I wasn't hiding.

I don't know who married neither.

I hear that all the time.

You know, people be in the streets.

I hear a lot of people say I'm in the
streets.

A lot of people say they know me, but
don't know me.

Shamil, I met her.

for the first time on the show, but she
said she was at Dominique Ware, and I

was there. No, I met you several times.

Where? I mean, you might not know me,
but, I mean, obviously you're a legend.

Right, I don't know you.

Okay, one second. I met you at Nick's
wedding.

No, no.

No, no. You didn't meet me. I was there.

That does not mean me.

I met you several times. Where?

I mean, you might not know me. I mean,
obviously you're a legend.

Okay, one second.

I met you at Nick's wedding.

No, no. You didn't meet me. I was there.

That's not meeting me. Me and my husband
were there.

And I don't even remember that.

Yeah, so I understand that, because
obviously I wasn't famous. OK, OK, I

understand, though. When I met you at my
party, oh, yeah, I met your husband,

you know, NBA at the game. And I said,
but I never met you. It's so good to

you finally.

Mine was never a dig, for one. I feel
like it was.

And because you said all these years I
knew Charles, I never knew he had a

So I'm like, how could you know he's
married if he doesn't know you? But I

met him.

OK, but you don't know him.

Charles, do you remember meaning
Phaedra?

No.

Where'd you two meet, Phaedra?

Well, I know I've been in several rooms
with him. OK, that's not meeting me,

though. But what I'm saying is I know.

We might have been. We might have been
in the same bathroom.

Not the same bathroom.

We ain't in the same bathroom. What I'm
saying is I know Sharae very well. And I

remember when y 'all were a couple at
one point. OK, we were a couple. That

don't mean you know me, though.

I mean, Sharae was a couple.

I know you and Sharae was a couple. Why
do people say they know this person

because I know Sharae? What I'm saying
is I have been in your presence on

numerous occasions. On where?

But, Phaedra, you said it to be shady.

I did not.

You said his secret wife.

Someone told me Charles Oakley was
married. You didn't know that man was

married? The secret wife of Charles
Oakley. What did you hear about Charles?

I said...

It's a secret because it's unknown.

But it was a dig at me. First of all, I
said I haven't seen him in over 10

years. I never said he was having an
affair. I never said nothing about no

secret baby. I said none of that. For
you to think that one comment, come on,

girl. This is housewives. No, this is
housewives. So I got ate up. Like, girl,

we don't know you. I didn't eat you up.
I didn't know anybody.

But why is there a conversation anyway
if you don't marry or not?

Well, I'm, OK, first off. No, no, I'm
just saying, everybody want to know

me. What about y 'all?

I'm the only husband here.

You are.

Where y 'all husbands at?

He at home. Where y 'all husbands?

I'm listening at home.

Well, I don't actually know where mine
is.

What is an unspecified address?

We just talking.

But you're here. It don't matter. All y
'all got to do is Google me. You know my

name.

Google will tell you I've been married
for 10 years.

Charles. Not 10 years.

11 years. 11 years. 12 years. Whatever.
I'm just saying, though. I don't even

know. I don't even know.

Just know you're married.

I know I'm married.

Charles. Charles.

When did you date our friend Charette?

I never. That was back in 2000.

Five, six, seven, around there. Oh, OK.
For like.

A couple years.

A couple years.

Was it dating?

Or was it like you guys? We went out. We
was dating, yeah. But were you guys

living together?

We didn't live together. We was dating.

OK. So was it like a monogamous, long
-term relationship?

We was going places, doing things, going
to Dubai, around the country.

I mean, we was moving. Dubai?

Yeah. Oh.

OK, Andy.

What are we doing here?

What are we doing here?

Because there has been women in his past
who, Thought they couldn't let go.

Sheree let go. She's not someone who I
think is interested in my husband. Or

vice versa.

Okay. Charles, the women had a lot to
say about you having an outside baby.

did this land with you?

We went to an event.

Men, Wendy and William had a cook -off
for charity.

Yeah. And Angela tried to talk to Wendy
because she had an issue about her

husband having a baby on her, right?
Yeah. Him.

So she tried to be all, Wendy, sorry,
that could happen to.

So Wendy took it back to the show and
turned the whole story around.

Wendy made it seem like he had the baby
on Angela. Right, on me.

And Charles has a side baby. She did.
The story is still being told. Tell me

about the times Wendy invited you over
for dinner, Charles.

Oh, she said, you want to come over and
have some wine or whatever.

Multiple times.

No, it wasn't. When you were together?
No, it was once. She had a cat, and I'm

allergic to cats and stuff.

I couldn't go. You didn't have a cat?
And I didn't go.

I drink wine, so it ain't with me.

So you're saying you would have went on
a date with Wendy Williams? I mean, I

would have had a glass of wine with her.
I've been knowing her. I get it, but

that's not what I'm asking you. I said,
would you go on a date?

I said I would have had a glass of wine
with her. Is that a date?

Whatever you want to call it. Oh, God.

So, Charles, you wrote about in your
book the incident at Madison Square

Mm -hmm.

How did that incident affect your
marriage?

Well, you know, it stayed with me for a
while.

It was like a step back. And Angela was
just, you know, frustrated.

There was a strain in our marriage, and
we lived apart. Because everything that

happened to him, he wanted to be
outside.

And there were other women. Because this
is a man of huge ego, not in a bad way,

just who he is. And to be drug out of
Madison Square Garden, it affected us

tremendously.

You started therapy around them? Yes.

2017. Wow.

Amazing. Charles, has it been helpful?

Yeah, well, she's real sharp, number
one. And she really hit a lot of points

that made me open up more and just help
myself more accountable.

And I'm just glad Angela stayed strong
and stayed with me. So to be clear, you

would take Wendy Williams for the last
one, not Wendy the therapist.

No, two different people. OK. OK.

Before I let the guys go, anything else?

Anyone want to say or clear up from the
season?

Well, I would like to know what my ex
-husband told you, Ralph.

No, the only thing he was just talking
about was just that the circumstances

behind your divorce, you know? It was
pretty much that just one interaction.

So it was nothing else.

Sure. I appreciate that. And let me just
tell you this. I think it's amazing

that you still have a man and a husband
that still wants to take care of his

children. I don't have that. Ralph is a
good guy. So I think, you know, I got to

say you're a pretty stand -up guy for
that. He is. I appreciate that. And that

am grateful for. Yeah. All right. Well,
I want to thank the guys for being here.

That was quick and painless. Thank you.
Thank you, gentlemen.

Thank you.

We are going to be right back after this
from Atlanta.

Charles, when's the next cook -off?
Whenever you want to.

I can't get in.

You know me.

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
Atlanta season 16 reunion.

Well, ladies, I want to end by talking
about your time.

Drew, I'm happy that tonight you're
ending the season in a better place with

Portia. I have to assume that makes you
happy.

Oh, most definitely, because I did care
for Portia. And I think today we heard

each other, found our way back to some
apologies and healing. And so I

appreciate the accountability and the
grace that we're extending to one

Kelly, what are you going to take away
from this season?

I would definitely pick and choose who
I'm a good friend to moving forward. But

you know what? I am so lucky to go kind
of through this life journey with these

ladies. And let me just say this.

I really, really, really do hope and
pray that Shamia and P can rekindle

friendship. I might have lost a
friendship with Britt, but I really hope

you guys can rekindle the one that I
lost.

Okay?

That's nice.

Yeah, it's nice.

Well, Phaedra, your stay was short, but
it sure seemed like a lot of fun.

How does it feel being back on this
platform in this group?

You know, it was a wild two weeks.

Yeah. I mean, Grenada, best time I've
ever had on a trip outside of Africa.

Wow. For real?

Yeah. Thanks. We did that for you. Yeah,
fact. I would do it a million times

over. It's fun to have you back. It is.
Yeah, it is. We needed that.

You know, Angela, I...

I remember seeing you early in the
season.

And you seemed so amazed that you were
even cast on the show. You said, what

you even see in me? And now it seems
that so many fans have seen something in

you. I have a deep gratitude for the
platform, for the Fangelas.

And just to be given the opportunity to
film with my mom, I now know that she

can live in everyone's home forever.

Yes, that is the biggest.

Absolutely. That's sweet.

Cynthia,

you did some real guidance this season.
I mean, you were such a good friend. I

mean, you really kept the train moving,
and I can't thank you enough. Thank you.

Thank you for not being a messy friend.

Thank you. Thank you guys so much.

I didn't know what to expect coming back
as a friend of the show, and I just

appreciate the respect and the grace
that you guys have given me.

Shamia, we've seen you on this show for
so many years. Obviously, we really got

to know you this season. What do you
take away from this?

Just to be more open about my feelings.

It's been an incredible journey. And I
pray that moving forward, I can build

alliances with all of the ladies.

Pinky promise?

Sorry.

Pinky promise.

Pinky promise.

Portia.

How do you look back on what was really
a very transitional year for you in your

personal life?

I mean, I've had rough seasons on the
show before, but none this

honestly, to be able to sit and watch
yourself not be your best.

And I don't blame anybody but me. But I
have to say, as a woman, sitting up here

with other divorcees and...

I just have to thank God that I am
sitting here with my right mind.

And, you know, to Shamia, I really hate
the way this season went. And, you know,

I continue to love you. I continue to
cheer for you. So I put a button on that

by saying that I love everybody that are
on these couches. That's not easy to

say on the show. And, you know, thank
you for such a beautiful season and a

learning season for me. But, Andy, I got
to say one more thing.

Yeah.

You didn't get to come to my birthday
party in Nashville.

Oh.

Okay. And so I just want to add you into
the fun. Okay.

Where them fans at?

I know you've been wanting to do a
dance.

Yeah, I love dancing. I know you've been
wanting to do the fan dance.

Oh, man.

Okay. And there you go.

There you go.

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