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The boss is attacking me every single
night.
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Justin thinks it's funny. Because it is
funny. That's hilarious.
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That's actual paint.
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You're like, ha ha ha ha ha.
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We have two cats, Pepper and Olive.
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I would like all murder all the time.
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It just makes me really sad.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right? Sorry, I don't know.
Cats have nine lives, but humans?
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Only have one.
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I
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get
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calls from cat guardians all over the
country looking for help. This time, I'm
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on the East Coast to help out some
desperate couples who've run out of
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with their cats.
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You're going over right now to see
Justin, Suzanne, and their Bengal cat,
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Mufasa.
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Mufasa loves Justin, hates Suzanne.
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No.
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Got to restore some balance to this
house. That's why I'm going over right
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I'm Justin. I'm Suzanne.
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We've been dating for three years now.
We just moved in together, and we live
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here in New York.
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We have a Bengal cat named Mufasa. He's
two years old. He was an anniversary
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gift for Suzanne.
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Because I am an awesome boyfriend.
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It was great. You know, she loved him.
We loved him.
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You started attacking me.
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Every night, his tail gets really puffy.
He crouches down,
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and then I know I'm in for it.
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Mind you, he doesn't do it to me.
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Hey, buddy.
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Just hanging out. He thinks it's funny.
Because it is funny. That's hilarious.
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It's rude. But he just laughs at it.
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It's a shame because if it wasn't for
the arguments over Mufasa, I feel like
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we'd be a lot happier.
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Our situation is pretty bad.
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I mean, you know...
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He's attacking her. He's peeing on the
floor.
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He attacks other animals, and we'd be
arguing a whole lot less if it wasn't
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Mufasa.
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Any animal.
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Yeah.
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I feel like sometimes we can't focus on
our relationship and just having fun
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with each other because we're worrying
about what the cat's going to do. So I'm
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hoping Jackson can fix this situation
because I don't want to get rid of
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and I don't want it to escalate to the
point where we feel like we have to.
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Oh, Jackson.
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What's going on, Justin?
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Yeah, Justin. Hey, Justin. Nice to see
you again. Hi. Hey, how you doing?
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Hopefully. Okay, I will.
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Mufasa, you've met your match.
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Hopefully. All right, so tell me, why am
I here?
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Well, basically, around 8 o 'clock every
night, he literally circles me like a
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shark. Then he attacks me, and it's only
me. It's like, almost like clockwork.
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Have the attacks been bad?
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Yeah, and it really hurts.
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And Justin thinks it's funny, but if it
happened to him, it wouldn't be funny
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anymore. So it happens to you, you get
attacked, you're like, ow, ow, ow, and
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you're laughing?
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I can't believe that Justin would laugh
while Suzanne's getting all ripped up. I
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don't even know where to take that. It's
frustrating because there are days
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where he's not at work, and all I ask
him to do is play with Mufasa. So that
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when I come home, he won't.
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attack me but when i do come home i can
instantly tell whether or not justin
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played with him i do play with him but
she doesn't like the way i play with him
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you know like i'll get on the ground
like i'm a cat and we'll just be like
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of wrestling around a little bit and he
likes it he enjoys it Mufasa's a Bengal,
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which means he has a lot more energy
than other cats.
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So, playing rough with your hands the
way Justin does not only overstimulates
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this Bengal, but teaches him that it's
okay to attack.
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That's why it's important to use
interactive cat toys instead. Now, my
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with Mufasa is he's got a pee problem,
and he's doing it right by the dining
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room table. And it's just, it's really,
it's a huge annoyance.
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So now it starts affecting you a little
bit. Yeah. Good.
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No, and I always say that because now
we've got equal investment.
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Anything else I need to know before we
get started?
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Well, Mufasa attacks other cats or dogs.
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He attacks dogs. A lot of my neighbors
have dogs. He actually attacked a... A
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Rottweiler. You are so lucky that that
cat's alive because that's a second, and
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that cat is in that dog's mouth. That's
incredible.
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We're dealing with an extremely
aggressive cat, so it's actually a
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thing that I came here because I don't
know how long he would have survived if
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he didn't get some help. So the next
thing we do is start walking me around
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Mufasa's territory so we can put a
picture together, okay?
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All right. Let's do it.
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This is actually his pee spot. He pees
right here, right here, and that wire.
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Okay. Now, over here...
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He would just hang out, right? This is a
prime hangout spot. Not as much as this
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one. And speak of the devil. Yeah. So he
just sits there and he hangs out and
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watches the world go by. Ooh, what's
that about?
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Did you see that? Yeah. It looked like
he got scared of something. Of
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We got to know what's going on in your
neighborhood, and I think it's a really
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important component. After seeing
Mufasa's urine pattern and seeing him
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at the window, I think it's safe to say
this is a territorial problem. This is
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Mufasa saying to something outside, hey,
this is my space here. So, bedroom.
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Justin, let's see what you do with him.
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Oh, wait, I kind of test with him? Yeah.
I'm usually on the floor.
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Let's see.
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Come on.
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I mean, how could you not feel bad for
Suzanne? I mean, there's Justin just
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riling this cat up, and he's just got
this disconnect. He doesn't get it. And
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Suzanne is sitting there in fear,
waiting to get all beat up. And you feel
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for her because, you know, she's right.
I want to see you play the way you
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normally do. And you just come out just
like you do in your normal play.
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Nice.
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He loves, loves, loves that.
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He'll chase it anywhere.
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Whoa, nice one. At some point, put the
toy away.
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Let's see what happens if you just take
it away while he's in mid -crazy.
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Okay.
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He's ready to attack me. Oh, he's ready.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, no, he's coming.
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I'm really scared, though.
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It really hurts when he does it.
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You're a little... Are you all right?
Sorry, I don't know.
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As Suzanne was being attacked, I could
see for the first time all day that
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Justin maybe had a little sympathy for
her. She's genuinely scared, and maybe
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he's finally understanding that this
isn't a joke.
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Okay, saw a lot of stuff today.
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Now, territorially, he's highly
threatened, and that's what we're seeing
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here in this wall. The pee...
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Clearly. Not only are we seeing
territorial aggression, we're also
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Bengal play energy.
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I think that the attacks can be
prevented, but key is the work that
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to do with him has to happen every day.
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Every day. All right? So you guys ready
for homework?
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Yeah. All right. For your part of play,
no more hands. I know you love it, but
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you're teaching Mufasa to attack.
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So I would like you to start exploring
how to train a cat. The way I want you
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start exploring it is...
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I want you to take that window seat over
there, and I want you to get him on
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that window seat.
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Get him up there. Treat.
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Great. Get him down again.
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Up and then down.
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Okay? Repeat.
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Okay? The next part is every day he goes
for a walk outside.
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Every single day.
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The last part of this is you adopted a
hybrid cat. He is conditioned to do one
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thing. He wakes up, and he goes hunt,
catch, kill, eat.
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So you get home. Toy comes out. Play,
play, play.
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When he's done, that goes away, and I
want you to find something to feed him
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then. It's the only chance that you have
to be in control of the situation.
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So there's a lot of stuff to do. This is
the hard work right now, okay?
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Jackson gave us some tools to help
Mufasa, but I'm just worried that it's
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to be temporary.
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I'll be back soon, and we'll pick it up
again, okay?
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Okay. All right, great. I don't feel
great leaving this couple.
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I mean, this is a cat with a lot of
issues, and based on the tension I'm
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between the two of them, I just don't
see them being able to fix this problem.
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mean, I hope I'm wrong.
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Be gone.
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I'm going in for my second visit with
Justin, Suzanne and her silver Bengal
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Mufasa. The last time I was here,
Suzanne was running around the room
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because Mufasa was trying to attack her.
Even if we have just a little bit of
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progress on that front, we have
something to work with. But I have no
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to expect.
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What's going on, dude?
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Not much.
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How you doing? Hi. How are you?
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Now, you've got to remember, Mufasa's a
Bengal.
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If you thought it was hard enough to get
just a normal domestic cat to do what
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you wanted them to do, try doing it with
a Bengal. I came back here for good
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news. Give me something. How have things
been? Things have been really good.
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Mufasa, we've seen some good stuff.
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Some other stuff has to change. Some
other stuff.
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Let's just start with the good stuff. I
mean, what are you noticing?
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He doesn't attack me as often. How many
attacks have you had?
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I would say two or three. So it's gotten
significantly better. That's nice. I
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like that. And a lot of it is that
Justin, I feel like, has been doing his
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Oh, it's fantastic.
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Yeah. The last time I was here, Justin
was kind of laughing this all off. So I
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was actually pretty surprised that
Justin came around the way he did. What
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heard is fantastic.
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What I want to go over with you guys is
your video homework.
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Okay. Let's watch.
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There it is. Nice little puddle he left
for me to clean up this morning.
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Repeat. He did it for a repeat.
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For the second time today.
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Not good. No.
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The imposter's been working the up
-downs and, you know, a little treat. I
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this is turkey.
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Up.
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Sit.
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Sit.
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Sit. There we go. There we go. Get down.
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Sit.
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There we go, buddy.
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He's responding very well.
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Good. Amazing.
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I took him fast outside for his walk,
just enjoying a taste of the great
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outdoors.
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Okay, I was really impressed with what I
saw there. I definitely see you guys
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taking appropriate control of the
situation. Justin's fantastic. You're
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with him so that he's not going to turn
around and chomp her. So that's
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fantastic. I love seeing that. Now, the
thing's not so great on there,
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obviously. We've still got pee on the
floor, so we'll focus in on that today.
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As glad as I am that Suzanne's not
getting attacked anymore, it was a
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disheartening to know that he was still
peeing by the wall. There's got to be a
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reason, and I'm here to find out what
that reason is. What I want to do is I
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want to go for a walk. You guys been on
a walk ready today?
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No. All right. Well, I want to see it. I
wanted to take a walk with Mufasa
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because I believe that his peeing
problem is territorial.
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So I wanted to get out there with him,
see firsthand what's causing it, and
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solve it. Let's follow. Let's see where
he's going.
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You see how he goes right under the
window?
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Yeah. Right?
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This is beginning to make that
connection.
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The thing is, the more he gets out here,
he gets out here every day, this world
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belongs to him. And he's going to own
this just as assuredly as he owns your
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home. This is about territory.
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This is about ownership. If he feels
like he doesn't own the home range,
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just go back to his room and write his
name all over the room. That's what we
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don't want.
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Here we go.
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Wow. Look at the size of you.
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Let's keep moving with him. Let him go
where he wants to go. We're going to
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cool for a second. We timed this
perfectly.
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We took this walk. We went down towards
the corner down there, and this enormous
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cat was just sitting there just like
Fatty the Doorman.
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And I think that these cats are the
reason why Mufasa is insecure.
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So now he's coming up to see what's the
rub over here. Let's do a quick check
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-in here.
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How are you feeling?
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I don't know what to do at this point. I
see him sneaking around, and it makes
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me nervous that he's going to...
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I don't know. Try something.
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This is when I try to, like, pull him
away.
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We're going to stay cool for a second.
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Suzanne is either expecting Mufasa to
instigate an attack or the other two
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to instigate an attack on him.
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She's seen aggressive behavior before,
but Mufasa needs to be challenged just a
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little bit.
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Let's just keep coming.
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I mean, I just want to do what he wants.
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Oh, there we go.
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Right?
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I want to see him watch that.
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Because this is what I want him to do.
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Urine marking between cats is
communication in the absence of a verbal
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Because Mufasa is strictly an indoor
cat, he's not getting a lot of time with
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outdoor cats. So he's missing crucial
cat social skills. That's why Justin and
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Suzanne have to get him out here marking
these bushes just like the other cats.
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Then he won't feel the need to mark
inside the house.
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Let's bring it back to what's going on
in your house.
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There's a gap in his cat speak where
this boy over here knows, you know, if I
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feel like I've got to own something
because you guys just walked up to my
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door, I'm just going to give it a little
squirt, and now I know.
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The more he watches it happen, he'll do
it. This is learning language.
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Jackson pointed out that this was a
great first step.
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Once he starts peeing outside on the
bushes as opposed to our floor, then
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off the hook.
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So I want to get to the homework that
you guys have. The first part is going
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be the practical part.
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That walk happens every single day. It
is so important that he goes out there,
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watches those two boys, and learns that
missing piece of his vocabulary, right?
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So the walk has to happen every day. The
playing, you continue to keep it up.
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Now, wondering what this is?
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Very much so.
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Basically, I started you working on
something last week.
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Well,
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we're going to start working on today.
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is I'm going to have you guys construct
a cat agility course.
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Bengals are so well -suited for this
because, remember, their energy level is
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high, and you get to just get that into
a funnel and get him doing things. So
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let's grab our cones.
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Let me show you. Come on over here.
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Bengals are built for cat agility
courses because their prey drive is
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high, and that means they have a lot of
energy to expend. So they'll keep doing
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it over and over and over again, trying
to learn the lesson. So we're going to
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go around here.
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Figure eight. And then the next thing,
we're going to lead him here. Up here,
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follows me. Oh, hello.
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And then he's going to follow me over
here. The reason I was called here, all
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the way from Los Angeles, was because
Mufasa was really putting a lick in on
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poor Suzanne.
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So basically, the whole point of
teaching this cat agility course is to
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to exhaust this cat. Now, I want you
guys to include hoops, tunnels, and
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But... The whole thing is going to be
homemade.
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I really want you guys to do this
without spending any money on stuff,
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The only way Mufasa is going to get any
better is if both Justin and Suzanne do
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their homework.
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Hey, if not, this cat's going to go back
to the way he was, peeing all over the
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house and attacking Suzanne, and that is
no way to live. I will see you in just
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a few weeks.
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I expect to see this done, man. I want
to see Mufasa complete this agility
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course in under three minutes.
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That's your challenge.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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The Bengal is a hybrid breed of cat
formed by the cross of a domestic feline
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which wild cat?
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A, a lynx, B, an Asian leopard cat, or
C, an ocelot?
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Find out after the break.
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The Bengal is a hybrid breed of cat
formed by the cross of a domestic feline
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which wild cat?
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The answer is B, an Asian leopard cat.
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Asian leopard cats are about the size of
a domestic cat, but more slender with
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longer legs and well -defined webs
between the toes to facilitate swimming
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negotiating slippery riverbanks.
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I'm on my way to go see Justin, Suzanne,
and Mufasa for our last visit. Now, the
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first time I met Mufasa, he was more
than just a handful. He was attacking
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Suzanne on a regular basis. He was
peeing all over their house and
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their relationship.
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Jackson. Hey there.
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What's going on, dude? I just want to
see a resolution to the point where
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Mufasa's energy is more contained, more
focused, and he's owning the world
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outside so that he doesn't have to pee
in that house anymore. So I fly all the
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way from California. You better have
good news for me.
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Oh, well, we do have good news for you.
Good, good, good. Tell me all about it.
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Well, for one, he's not peeing. He's not
peeing at all? No.
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Yeah, he peed out of the box and swam. I
think the last time you were here.
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That's it?
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Pretty much.
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Wow. All right, then. Yeah, I take him
outside. Now he's peeing on the grass.
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That is so amazing.
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Okay. So, you know, he's good with that.
He's, you know, playing nice with the
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other cats outside.
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He's lovable. He's just hanging out. He
seems like just chilled out, which is
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just awesome. Very nice, man.
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Has he attacked you? He does not attack
me at all anymore.
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I didn't think that would ever happen.
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Now, that is amazing because it's only
been a few weeks.
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Oh, cool.
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The first time I met Justin and Suzanne,
Suzanne was getting attacked
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constantly. She's not anymore. She
hasn't in quite a while. Why is that?
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because Mufasa's natural energy is being
drained off in a very coherent, laser
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-like way, and that means he's not
taking it out on Suzanne.
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So, finally, you got the cat agility
course. I want to see you guys do it. I
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want to see all the things that you put
together and how Mufasa gets through it,
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okay? Okay. Come on, let's do it.
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We're nervous to show Jackson the cat
agility course because it's not as easy
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we thought it would be. And we don't
want Jackson to be disappointed because
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did so well the first time around. And I
just don't know if the final product is
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what he expects.
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We'll see.
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Now, I have a timer. You've got to come
in under the three -minute mark. Okay.
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So you tell me when to start.
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Okay. Sit and go.
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And we're off. Come on.
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Good kitty.
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Nice jump. Good kitty. Nice jump.
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See how he's got the head up? Beautiful,
beautiful.
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Good animal. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Good kitty.
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Oh, my God. You're doing so good.
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Nice, nice, nice.
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I see the jump.
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Yay!
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Through the tunnel. Through the tunnel.
Yay!
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And stop.
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You guys broke a minute on that one.
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We came in at 47 seconds, which is
amazing. And now we do our idle dance
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I'm really scared to go. There we go.
That was amazing, man. That was actually
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an amazing course. I love the setup.
That was an amazing little piece of work
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there. Congratulations.
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I was very proud of Mufasa and us for
being able to do that. First of all.
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You guys are not the same two people
that I met. I want to give you every
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of props because, you know, you made my
trip worthwhile. I'm so glad. And for
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you, Justin, I mean, I am incredibly
impressed with your...
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Taking stock and saying, what can I do?
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Not just for this cat that I brought in
that I love, but for the woman that I
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love. So that's pretty amazing.
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Well, I mean, you ignited the fire back
in us to really, you know, get to where
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we needed to be.
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Mufasa is the extension of our
relationship.
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And, you know, he's strong, we're
strong.
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Right on. The couple who was at each
other's throats about their cat, who was
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unconfident that he paced back and forth
peeing on things, attacking his people.
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not part of the picture anymore because
these guys loved him enough that they
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said, we're putting everything else on
hold and every single day we're going to
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work with you because we love and
appreciate you. I love and appreciate
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guys because of what they've done. Take
care of each other.
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Take care of the boy, okay?
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We adopted Pepper and Olive.
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We haven't been able to leave them
together for more than about 10 minutes.
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Olive does not want Pepper in her home.
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She is, like, all murder all the time.
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Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh,
my God.
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Well, I'm still in New York, so I'm
heading over to see Mike and Emily here
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right off Times Square. They've got a
cat named Olive who's trying to kill
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other cat, Pepper.
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So I got to get over there right now.
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I'm Mike. I'm Emily. We live together in
New York City. We've been together for
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three years. Mike and I met through
mutual friends.
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Everything's been pretty easy for us so
far, minus the cat stuff.
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And we are about to get married.
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About a year and a half ago, we adopted
two cats, Pepper and Olive.
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They're both incredibly sweet and loving
to us, but we haven't really been able
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to leave them in the same room together
for more than about 10 minutes.
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Olive is the instigator.
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She very clearly does not want Pepper in
her home.
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Every time she sees her, she tries to
attack her and kill her.
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Once she has her eyes set on her, she is
like all murder all the time.
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We have absolutely no idea what else to
do. I'm worried that this is a problem
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that nobody can fix, but if there's
anybody who can fix it, it's Jackson
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I'm on my way to see Mike and Emily, and
they've got two cats at war in a tiny
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New York apartment. My job here is not
just to help the cats, but to help their
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people as well.
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Hey! I made it!
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I'm really excited.
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It gave me an excuse to get out of L .A.
for a little bit. We are huge fans of
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the show. We've seen Jackson Galaxy on
the show a dozen times. We've been
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looking forward to meeting him in
person.
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Well, let's start with it then. Tell me
something.
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We moved in together here about a year
and a half ago. We had Olive, who is the
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reason you're here. And we thought we
should get her a friend.
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and we got Pepper, and Olive despises
her.
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They're never in the same room at the
same time. Only when we are closely
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monitoring them, you know, trying to get
them to eat together, but even that
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lasts for maybe 10 minutes.
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As soon as the food was done, she would
turn around, stare at Pepper, and just
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slowly stalk her.
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They can't be together at night either,
so Olive gets all upset that we're home
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and not with her, so then she cries.
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You know, pretty much every night one of
us ends up on the couch and sleeps
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here. So we're sleeping separately.
We're getting married in a few months
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sleep separate for the rest of the week.
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Sometimes we just get really thick of
having to be in separate rooms all the
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time.
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My sad empty bed as Mike is on the couch
right now.
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We actually enjoy spending time
together.
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I can't figure out where she wants to
be. You know, she'll want to be in the
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bedroom, then she'll want to be out
here, and she'll scratch at the door and
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at the door and throw herself against
the door. How many times a night?
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Up to five or seven.
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What? You're insane.
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This is supposed to be the honeymoon
phase of things. They're sleeping in
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separate beds.
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Let's go and take a walk around. All
right. Let's do it. Let's go.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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This is horrible.
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Right here is this vortex of ugly. New
York apartments are built in this way to
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sort of maximize living space. When you
have two warring cats, it is a death
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sentence. If one wants the other dead,
then there's no escape route.
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Bad juju right here as well, right?
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We've got this really thin hallway. We
never even thought twice about it. That
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just poses a huge trouble spot when
Pepper gets cornered down there.
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So this is Pepper, our sweet little
girl.
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She is sweet little girl. Hello, sweet
little tortie.
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Hello, my sweet little tortie. Oh.
452
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,840
And this is kind of her stuff?
453
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Yeah, Pepper loves jumping from here up
here.
454
00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:23,500
She's a jumper. She's a jumper.
455
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:26,540
Does Olive do the jumping onto the
dressers? No, she's not as much of a
456
00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:27,540
at all as Pepper.
457
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:31,780
We have to play into the fact that there
are things that Olive doesn't like that
458
00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:34,760
Pepper likes. She just loves to be high
up, and Olive doesn't like it.
459
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,040
There's a tool. Put it in the belt.
460
00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:40,740
Fights in here that have happened? There
used to be fights in here. We don't let
461
00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:43,200
it happen anymore because we don't like
them getting under the bed where we
462
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,680
can't break them up. We feel bad for
Pepper because she's locked in this
463
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,260
in the dark by herself all day. She
doesn't have a cat to play with, and
464
00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:52,480
really depressing. I feel really bad for
her that she's always got to worry
465
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600
about getting her behind kicked and not
having a friend.
466
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:56,900
Okay, guys, so now what I need.
467
00:26:57,690 --> 00:27:02,350
is I want to see the whole feeding
ritual that you go through, okay?
468
00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:04,390
So I'm just going to stand back.
469
00:27:04,650 --> 00:27:05,910
You do what you do. Okay.
470
00:27:06,190 --> 00:27:10,410
Mike and Emily have told me that these
two cats can actually be together during
471
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:14,350
feeding time right near each other. This
is something that I can use to help me
472
00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:16,550
figure out what's going on between these
two cats.
473
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:20,790
So they usually ignore each other until
Olive finishes her plate, and that's
474
00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:21,790
when the fun starts.
475
00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:25,150
Yeah, we got a little regard here, a
little regard there.
476
00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:26,410
She just saw Olive.
477
00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:27,569
Oh, God.
478
00:27:27,570 --> 00:27:29,210
You see she just froze in her tracks
there.
479
00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:30,349
Mm -hmm.
480
00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:31,630
So she goes in the kitchen.
481
00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:36,970
Olive is basically cutting off all
angle, right?
482
00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:43,270
So there's no way that this one can come
out of the kitchen.
483
00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:46,170
Let's just see what we got here. Hey,
baby.
484
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:52,830
The worst place for her to be. Yep. The
inevitable only happens when we have
485
00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:53,950
environmental...
486
00:27:54,910 --> 00:27:57,030
Dead ends. When we just run out of
highway.
487
00:27:57,330 --> 00:27:58,770
And we have run out of highway.
488
00:27:59,070 --> 00:28:00,730
And look at that angle she's taking.
489
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:01,930
Oh, man, look at her.
490
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:06,390
All right, so now we've got eye contact
being made.
491
00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:13,530
Mike and Emily have told me that the
only time Olive and Pepper are in the
492
00:28:13,530 --> 00:28:17,030
room together is when they're eating.
Now, I know there's a chance that Olive
493
00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:21,390
going to go after Pepper, but I need to
see these cats do what they do during
494
00:28:21,390 --> 00:28:23,530
the feeding ritual to see how these
attacks begin.
495
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,560
This is the standoff.
496
00:28:26,660 --> 00:28:28,820
But, of course, all standoffs have to
end.
497
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:32,280
Someone's got to make a move. Someone's
got to play chicken at some point.
498
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:40,600
Even though I couldn't really see what
was going on, I could hear what was
499
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,900
on, and I've seen it happen so many
times. That moment right before she
500
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:45,560
her is the worst, because I know it's
coming.
501
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,720
This is a standoff.
502
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,560
But, of course, all standoffs have to
end.
503
00:28:53,130 --> 00:28:55,970
Someone's got to make a move. Someone's
got to play chicken at some point.
504
00:28:56,370 --> 00:28:59,590
Even though I couldn't really see what
was going on, I could hear what was
505
00:28:59,590 --> 00:29:02,890
on. And I've seen it happen so many
times. That moment right before she
506
00:29:02,890 --> 00:29:04,530
her is the worst because I know it's
coming.
507
00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:19,590
Get out of here. Get, get, get. Come
here. Come here.
508
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:21,390
Here, push her to me. Come here.
509
00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:22,610
Come here.
510
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:27,510
Look at Pepper back here.
511
00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:37,430
So, you all right?
512
00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:40,030
I feel like they're a mom, like they're
a protector.
513
00:29:40,410 --> 00:29:43,230
And so when I don't get to protect them,
it really, I get bad.
514
00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:47,110
I adopted them. I could give them a good
life.
515
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:50,950
It just makes me really sad whenever I
have to see them get in that kind of
516
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:51,950
altercation.
517
00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:59,470
It's hard to watch Pepper put herself in
that position. Let me just tell you
518
00:29:59,470 --> 00:30:00,409
what I saw today.
519
00:30:00,410 --> 00:30:02,390
I saw a pretty dysfunctional
environment.
520
00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:06,150
We're going to figure out a way to work
this, okay? Let me give you homework.
521
00:30:06,410 --> 00:30:08,010
Now, the first thing is this.
522
00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:11,530
I want this concept absolutely gone.
523
00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:15,690
What I want you to find is a better tool
than the broom.
524
00:30:16,270 --> 00:30:20,110
And it's something that when the cats
are about to get together, you break
525
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:21,110
sight lines.
526
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:24,270
And then you have that moment to guide
them into a different reality.
527
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:28,830
This is the definition of what we don't
want. Because you have to be empowered
528
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:30,810
with proactive techniques.
529
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:35,810
The next thing in the bedroom, we
identified that Pepper likes height.
530
00:30:36,030 --> 00:30:40,670
Olive could care less about the vertical
world. If that's true, we need to
531
00:30:40,670 --> 00:30:42,710
really start thinking about the vertical
world, right?
532
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:44,530
And finally...
533
00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:46,450
Please start sleeping together again.
534
00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:48,310
I love being able to say that.
535
00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:52,610
But the thing is, when Oliver's out
here, she's going to make noise, and you
536
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:56,390
not going to respond to the temper
tantrum. Let it pass. It will pass,
537
00:30:56,490 --> 00:30:59,230
Don't feel guilty because you've got a
lot of work ahead of you.
538
00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:03,070
You've got a wedding to plan, and I want
you to know that when you leave here,
539
00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:05,710
those guys will be okay without you,
okay?
540
00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:09,390
Okay. All right. Sounds good. Good.
Thank you so much.
541
00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:10,630
You're totally welcome.
542
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:12,510
Not only is a cat's life at stake.
543
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,360
But these guys want to take a honeymoon.
544
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Our goal is to make sure that this
couple can kick off the rest of their
545
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,900
right, just having a good time together,
knowing that their cats are not going
546
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,840
to be, I don't know, dead when they get
back.
547
00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:33,380
This is my second visit now. The first
time I was here, we literally had one
548
00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:34,380
that just wanted to kill another.
549
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Olive pretty much wanted Pepper out of
the picture, and she was going to do
550
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
anything to prove it.
551
00:31:42,890 --> 00:31:44,730
So I don't know what to expect.
552
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:49,170
Hey. Hey. Good to see you again. Thanks.
Good to see you. Hey, man. Hey.
553
00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:53,090
Guys, I want you to meet my compadre
here. This is Kate.
554
00:31:53,670 --> 00:31:54,690
Nice to meet you.
555
00:31:54,970 --> 00:31:57,470
She is our catification person.
556
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:03,110
Kate is just a specialist in all things
related to cat furniture. We need to
557
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:05,290
live in small spaces creatively.
558
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:11,530
She's here to make this crazy New York
hallway work for us and keep Pepper
559
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,140
I was super excited to meet her. We feel
so privileged to be able to have an
560
00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:18,200
expert come in and tell us all the right
things to do. Like, it doesn't get
561
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,019
better than that.
562
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:20,020
Will you be here tomorrow?
563
00:32:20,060 --> 00:32:23,080
Yeah, I will be back, and we are going
to get you all set up in the kitchen and
564
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,460
the hallway. Kate, thank you so much.
565
00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:26,320
Yep, I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you.
All right.
566
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,760
Bye. Bye.
567
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,460
So tell me what's going on.
568
00:32:30,010 --> 00:32:34,010
All right, well, we did pretty much
everything that you asked of us. I know
569
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:37,350
recommended to ignore Olive crying. It's
just at night when it goes on for 20,
570
00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:40,270
30 minutes and 3 o 'clock in the
morning. Olive's tired. It's much, much
571
00:32:40,270 --> 00:32:41,089
to ignore that.
572
00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:42,510
Still haven't made it through the night
together yet.
573
00:32:44,170 --> 00:32:45,890
I want to take a look at your video
homework.
574
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:47,810
I'm sure there's more information in
there, okay?
575
00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:50,310
Yep. All right, this is day one.
576
00:32:50,670 --> 00:32:55,030
I'm using a blanket to break their sight
line whenever Olive gets crazy.
577
00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:58,430
And, oh, oh.
578
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:00,950
Food experiment over. Olive is back.
579
00:33:01,150 --> 00:33:07,790
We also ordered these sunny seats where
you put them on the windows.
580
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,190
She just hopped right up here on her
own.
581
00:33:10,570 --> 00:33:13,250
2 .31 a .m.
582
00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:16,530
Olive, I am so tired.
583
00:33:16,910 --> 00:33:23,770
I have been up for over an hour while
the cats meow and scratch each
584
00:33:23,770 --> 00:33:24,770
other.
585
00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:30,290
First of all, even though you've dropped
the broom, you guys were hovering
586
00:33:30,290 --> 00:33:31,490
around the process.
587
00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:34,190
If we don't allow it to breathe, then I
don't know where these guys are.
588
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:38,150
Environmentally, the work that you
started to do was just fantastic. You
589
00:33:38,150 --> 00:33:42,650
sunny seats up, which is great. We
successfully got Pepper up off the
590
00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:47,070
Now, give me a second. I got something
to get to help us with our progress on
591
00:33:47,070 --> 00:33:48,070
the feeding, okay?
592
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,500
These guys are scared.
593
00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:53,180
They can't let the process happen
because they're just hovering.
594
00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:56,140
So this time I brought some extra tools
with me. Surprise!
595
00:33:57,260 --> 00:34:01,940
So this, obviously, is a simple piece of
cardboard.
596
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,560
It costs absolutely nothing. This
becomes your sight line breaker.
597
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:09,820
Now, the thing that I want you to work
on is breaking sidelines only when
598
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:12,900
hit the point of no return. One of the
things that I noticed the last time we
599
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:16,960
were working is that we had peace in the
kingdom as long as Olive was eating.
600
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,139
So, this bowl, what you're going to do
is you're going to take the food and
601
00:34:21,139 --> 00:34:23,540
you're going to dish it around this
circle, okay?
602
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,219
So, as Olive's eating, she's got to go
around to finish her food. By the time
603
00:34:28,219 --> 00:34:31,340
she finishes, pepper is going to be done
and exploring the room by herself.
604
00:34:32,799 --> 00:34:35,580
One of you guys want to start preparing
food for me? Absolutely. Okay, go for
605
00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:38,320
it. My favorite thing probably the whole
day is Jackson brings out this bowl
606
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,320
that looks like a Bundt cake.
607
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,280
Jackson wanted to see us feed the cats
together again.
608
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,020
So when we do put them in the same room,
it's always a stalking process.
609
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:48,340
Oh, my God,
610
00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:52,360
oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. You
know, we were hoping that it would go a
611
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,540
little better, but I wasn't really
honestly all that optimistic about it.
612
00:34:57,609 --> 00:34:59,930
Now remember, your placement is escape
oriented.
613
00:35:00,870 --> 00:35:02,170
That's perfect. Right in the middle.
614
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:04,190
Good, good, good, good, good.
615
00:35:04,810 --> 00:35:05,810
Put it down.
616
00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:06,890
We're good.
617
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:13,450
During the feeding thing, I was just
like a little still worried that this is
618
00:35:13,450 --> 00:35:14,450
never going to get better.
619
00:35:16,410 --> 00:35:18,430
All right, so Pepper's walking away now.
She's done eating.
620
00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:23,390
Now here's where I feel like I don't
know what to do. Okay, wait.
621
00:35:27,259 --> 00:35:29,840
Where's she going? Follow her. She's
going into the bedroom. I can see her.
622
00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:31,720
Okay, you know what I want you to do
now?
623
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,120
Please close the door.
624
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,400
There's nothing like the feeling of
organic completion, right?
625
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,340
Give me some of that, please.
626
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:43,640
I like that very much.
627
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:45,880
Very good. That's never happened before.
628
00:35:46,140 --> 00:35:50,620
So I got Olive this big, slow -feeding
bowl. The longer it takes Olive to
629
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:55,260
her food, the longer Pepper has to
finish her meal, walk away, and escape
630
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:56,440
place where Olive won't go after her.
631
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,760
I've never had a situation where I
haven't had to pick one of them up.
632
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:03,780
When Olive sort of made the choice to
turn around and walk into the bedroom
633
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:06,580
go take a nap instead of trying to
attack Pepper.
634
00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:11,220
It was really the first time that we saw
a huge breakthrough happen. I am so
635
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:15,800
glad that Jackson brought us a food
bowl. My heart is happy right now. That
636
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,800
a big deal.
637
00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:21,630
We just started. We, like, have so much
more to go so we could actually get to a
638
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:25,590
point where we have, like, a normal
situation, which I never, ever thought
639
00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:27,350
happen. So I'm definitely feeling good
right now.
640
00:36:27,790 --> 00:36:31,470
The greatest part of today, I mean, I'm
really happy the cats had a good moment,
641
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:33,890
but I love when humans have a good
moment as well.
642
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:38,210
Ah, it's good. It's a good way to end
things, right? Yeah. So you ready for
643
00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:39,290
homework? Oh, we're ready.
644
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:40,388
All right, let's do it.
645
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:44,410
Now. The first thing is I'd like you to
cut down a little bit of the food that
646
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:47,510
you're giving Pepper. And she'll walk
away sooner and start exploring the
647
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:48,670
while Olive is still eating.
648
00:36:49,090 --> 00:36:53,490
And second, you guys have Kate coming in
here tomorrow to work with you, and
649
00:36:53,490 --> 00:36:56,410
we're not going to have to worry anymore
about Pepper being trapped.
650
00:36:56,990 --> 00:36:59,510
Finally, the only way.
651
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:03,800
that you're going to be able to sleep
together for the rest of your life is if
652
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,660
you ignore Olive completely.
653
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,760
So when she's scratching on the door,
you let it happen. You have to break
654
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,320
habit. All right. I think the payoff is
going to be huge for you. All right,
655
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:16,000
guys. Awesome. Great to see you again.
Thank you so much for everything.
656
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,260
Bye -bye. The next time I come back
here, I really hope to be able to show
657
00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:23,800
and Emily that these two cats can just
hang out together with no violence
658
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,320
because these two cats have shown they
can get violent when they're around each
659
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,320
other.
660
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:34,170
It's been about three weeks since the
last time I saw Mike and Emily, Pepper
661
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:38,550
Olive. The first time I ever met these
guys, Olive and Pepper were always on
662
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:39,570
verge of killing one another.
663
00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:45,450
I want to see these two cats able to be
in the same room for an extended period
664
00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:46,930
of time with no violence.
665
00:37:47,650 --> 00:37:52,110
So, the first time I came to visit you
guys, you weren't sleeping in the same
666
00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:53,110
bed for the most part.
667
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:57,970
We had General Olive absolutely stalking
Pepper mercilessly.
668
00:37:58,330 --> 00:37:59,450
What's changed since then?
669
00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:05,320
Well, a whole lot has changed. We are
sleeping in the same bed just about
670
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,320
night. Yay!
671
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,980
I was waiting for that one.
672
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,840
You know, we ignored Olive's crying,
like you suggested, which really helped.
673
00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:14,300
The crying in the bedroom has almost
stopped completely.
674
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,480
Now, we had a lot of environmental
enrichment done in the house.
675
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,860
Kate came over and kind of catified the
house, right?
676
00:38:23,879 --> 00:38:26,480
We've been feeding them together, which
has gone pretty well. We don't have
677
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,640
anything, really. I'm not holding a
broom or even the cardboard dividers we
678
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,780
made. They're available.
679
00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:33,880
But for the most part, we feed them, and
it ends peacefully.
680
00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:35,220
Can we take a walk around?
681
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,740
Do it. Do it. Come on.
682
00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:38,820
First place. I'm psyched here.
683
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:40,500
Yeah.
684
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,799
That's amazing.
685
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,220
So she comes running in here, and she
can go zippity -doo -dah up here, and
686
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:48,220
she has two exits.
687
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,660
She can come out this way.
688
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,200
She can come out that way.
689
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,480
There's no way for Olive to trap her
anymore.
690
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:56,760
Oh, my God.
691
00:38:57,540 --> 00:38:58,540
That's incredible.
692
00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:04,960
This is cat heaven here. Now she can run
in here up and out again. New York
693
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,320
apartments in general, huge challenge.
This place with the Z -shaped hallways
694
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,600
and everything, it was a nightmare from
the beginning. The cats can get in and
695
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,180
out, no dead end.
696
00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:19,120
Awesome job, buddy.
697
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,930
So... That leaves us with our major test
of the day.
698
00:39:24,610 --> 00:39:25,610
Take a breath.
699
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:30,630
Why not take it a step further? I want
to see these two cats play together in
700
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:35,070
the same space and raise their energy
level up together a little bit more. Are
701
00:39:35,070 --> 00:39:36,770
you breathing? I'm breathing. I promise.
702
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:46,350
This is firmly outside everyone's
comfort zone.
703
00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:49,710
There were a few moments.
704
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:54,690
When Olive and Pepper were out together,
I got really concerned because I
705
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:55,790
thought they were going to get in a
fight.
706
00:39:56,030 --> 00:39:59,990
And you just have a moment of, we've
come so far, please don't let this ruin
707
00:39:59,990 --> 00:40:00,990
all.
708
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:07,790
Oh, hello.
709
00:40:09,110 --> 00:40:10,150
Everything is normal.
710
00:40:11,090 --> 00:40:12,090
Your turn.
711
00:40:13,070 --> 00:40:14,070
Good girl.
712
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,960
When I first met Pepper, she found
herself getting cornered by Olive and
713
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,120
in constant fear. Now she has a lot more
confidence because she lives in a world
714
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,420
full of escape routes instead of death
traps. And because Pepper's not acting
715
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:30,700
like prey anymore, Olive's not treating
her like prey.
716
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:32,720
So, we got what?
717
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,180
48 minutes of the cats being with each
other. It's definitely, probably twice
718
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:41,460
long. At least, if not more. At least
that we've ever left them out together.
719
00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:44,340
And the longest it's ever gone where it
didn't go sour.
720
00:40:45,390 --> 00:40:46,550
So we're happy.
721
00:40:47,650 --> 00:40:51,270
It was amazing seeing them together in
the same room, not hurting each other.
722
00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:53,910
Good girl.
723
00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:59,270
It makes my heart feel so much better
that I'm able to give them the life that
724
00:40:59,270 --> 00:41:02,710
know they deserve because they're really
great cats and they deserve to be
725
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:07,970
happy. Now, from here on, we've
established a new type of dialogue
726
00:41:08,050 --> 00:41:11,630
which you guys have been doing the
entire time, by the way. Every day that
727
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:13,990
do these exercises, you're teaching
them.
728
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:16,170
This is how you speak to one another.
729
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:19,930
I don't even think we could put into
words how much we appreciate everything
730
00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:23,630
that you've done. You've, like, turned
us into normal people living completely
731
00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:27,410
normal lives. And I feel like, you know,
our wedding, our honeymoon, all the
732
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:31,010
stuff that we were so nervous about now,
all that stuff just feels happy. And
733
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:34,570
seriously, it's because of you. So thank
you so, so, so, so much.
734
00:41:35,110 --> 00:41:38,010
It was great to meet you. Thank you so
much. You're totally welcome.
735
00:41:38,270 --> 00:41:39,970
Seriously, thank you. You're welcome.
736
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,800
You guys were amazing.
737
00:41:41,980 --> 00:41:45,740
Have a happy wedding. Thank you. An
amazing honeymoon. Thank you. Bye, guys.
738
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,900
I love my job because I get to work with
people like Mike and Emily. These guys
739
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:54,320
were a united team. Even though their
life was so full of grief, they were
740
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,740
to the possibility that it could be full
of nothing but love. And that's what
741
00:41:58,740 --> 00:41:59,738
they got today.
742
00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:03,220
Man, I am so psyched that I could have
been here for that.
743
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,440
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