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The boss is attacking me every single
night.
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Justin thinks it's funny.
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Because it is funny. That's hilarious.
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That's actual paint.
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You're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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We have two cats, Pepper and Olive.
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Olive is like all murder all the time.
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It just makes me really sad.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end... I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. ...and pet guardians have reached
their emotional limit... Just get rid
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of her. ...I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans only have one.
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I get calls from cat guardians all over
the country looking for help. This time,
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I'm on the East Coast to help out some
desperate couples who've run out of
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options with their cats.
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I'm going over right now to see Justin,
Suzanne, and their Bengal cat, Mufasa.
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Mufasa loves Justin, hates Suzanne.
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No!
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I've got to restore some balance to this
house, that's why I'm going over right
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now.
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I'm Justin. I'm Suzanne.
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We've been dating for three years now.
We just moved in together, and we live
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here in New York.
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We have a Bengal cat named Mufasa. He's
two years old. He was an anniversary
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gift for Suzanne.
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Because I am an awesome boyfriend.
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It was great. You know, she loved him.
We loved him.
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You started attacking me.
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Every night, his tail gets...
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Really puffy. He crouches down, and then
I know I'm in for it.
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Mind you, he doesn't do it to me.
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Hey, buddy.
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Just hanging out.
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He thinks it's funny. Because it is
funny. That's hilarious.
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It's rude, but he just laughs at it.
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It's a shame because if it wasn't for...
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The arguments over Mufasa, I feel like
we'd be a lot happier.
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Our situation's pretty bad. I
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mean, you know, he's attacking her, he's
peeing on the floor.
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He attacks other animals, and we'd be
arguing a whole lot less if it wasn't
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Mufasa. Any animal, this is the jack.
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I feel like sometimes we can't focus on
our relationship and just having fun
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with each other because we're worrying
about what the cat's going to do. So I'm
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hoping Jackson can fix this situation
because I don't want to get rid of
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and I don't want it to escalate to the
point where we feel like we have to.
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Hey. Oh.
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Jackson. What's going on, Justin?
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Yeah, Justin. Hey, Justin. Hi.
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Hey. How you doing? Please take a seat.
Okay, I will.
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Bufasa, you've met your match.
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Hopefully. All right, so tell me, why am
I here?
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Well, basically, around 8 o 'clock every
night, he literally circles me like a
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shark. Then he attacks me, and it's only
me. It's like, almost like clockwork.
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Have the attacks been bad?
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Yeah, and it really hurts.
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And Justin thinks it's funny, but if it
happened to him, it wouldn't be funny
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anymore. So, it happens to you, you get
attacked, you're like, ow, ow, ow, and
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you're laughing?
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I can't believe that Justin would laugh
while Suzanne's getting all ripped up. I
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don't even know where to take that. It's
frustrating because there are days
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where he's not at work and all I ask him
to do is play with Mufasa. So that way
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when I come home, he won't attack me.
But when I do come home... I can
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tell whether or not Justin played with
him.
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I do play with him, but she doesn't like
the way I play with him. You know,
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like, I'll get on the ground like I'm a
cat, and we'll just be, like, kind of
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wrestling around a little bit. And he
likes it. He enjoys it.
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Mufasa's a Bengal, which means he has a
lot more energy than other cats.
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So, playing rough with your hands the
way Justin does not only overstimulates
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this Bengal, but teaches him that it's
okay to attack.
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That's why it's important to use
interactive cat toys instead.
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Now... My problem with Mufasa is he's
got a pee problem, and he's doing it
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by the dining room table. And it's just,
it's really, it's a huge annoyance. So
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now it starts affecting you a little
bit. Yeah. Good.
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No, and I always say that because now
we've got equal investment.
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Anything else I need to know before we
get started?
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Well, Mufasa attacks other cats or dogs.
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He attacks dogs. A lot of my neighbors
have dogs. He actually attacked a... A
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Rottweiler. You are so lucky that that
cat's alive because that's a second, and
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that cat is in that dog's mouth. That's
incredible.
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We're dealing with an extremely
aggressive cat, so it's actually a
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thing that I came here because I don't
know how long he would have survived if
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he didn't get some help. So the next
thing we do is start walking me around
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fossil territory so we can put a picture
together, okay?
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All right. Now let's do it.
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This is actually his pee spot. He pees
right here, right here, and that wire.
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Okay. Now, over here, he would just hang
out, right? This is a prime hangout
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spot. Not as much as this one. And speak
of the devil. Yeah. So he just sits
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there and he hangs out and watches the
world go by. Ooh, what's that about?
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Did you see that? Yeah. It looked like
he got scared of something. Of
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We got to know what's going on in your
neighborhood, and I think it's a really
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important component. After seeing
Mufasa's urine pattern and seeing him
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at the window, I think it's safe to say
this is a territorial problem. This is
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Mufasa saying to something outside, hey,
this is my space here. So, bedroom.
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Justin, let's see what you do with him.
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Oh, I kind of tussle with him? Yeah. I'm
usually on the floor.
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Let's see.
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Come on.
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I mean, how could you not feel bad for
Suzanne? I mean, there's Justin just
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riling this cat up, and he's just got
this disconnect. He doesn't get it. And
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Suzanne is sitting there in fear,
waiting to get all beat up. And you feel
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for her because, you know, she's right.
I want to see you play the way you
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normally do. And you just come out just
like you do in your normal play.
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Nice.
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He loves, loves, loves this.
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He'll chase it anywhere.
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Whoa, nice one. At some point, put the
toy away.
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Let's see what happens if you just take
it away while he's in mid -crazy.
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Okay.
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He's ready to attack me. Oh, he's ready.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, no, he's coming.
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I'm really scared, though.
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It really hurts when he does it.
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You're a little... Are you all right?
Sorry, I don't know.
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As Suzanne was being attacked, I could
see for the first time all day that
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Justin maybe had a little sympathy for
her. She's genuinely scared, and maybe
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he's finally understanding that this
isn't a joke.
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Okay, saw a lot of stuff today.
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Now, territorially, he's highly
threatened, and that's what we're seeing
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here in this wall. The pee...
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Clearly. Not only are we seeing
territorial aggression, we're also
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Bengal play energy.
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I think that the attacks can be
prevented, but he is the work that
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to do with him has to happen every day.
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Every day. All right? So you guys ready
for homework?
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Yeah. All right. For your part of play,
no more hands. I know you love it, but
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you're teaching Mufasa to attack.
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So I would like you to start exploring
how to train a cat. The way I want you
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start exploring it is, I want you to
take that window seat over there, and I
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want you to get him on that window seat.
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Get him up there. Treat.
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Great. Get him down again.
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Up and then down.
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Okay? Repeat.
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Okay. The next part is every day he goes
for a walk outside.
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Every single day.
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The last part of this is you adopted a
hybrid cat. He is conditioned to do one
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thing. He wakes up, and he goes hunt,
catch, kill, eat.
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So you get home. Toy comes out. Play,
play, play.
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When he's done, that goes away, and I
want you to find something to feed him
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then. It's the only chance that you have
to be in control of the situation.
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So there's a lot of stuff to do. This is
the hard work right now, okay?
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Jackson gave us some tools to help
Mufasa, but I'm just worried that it's
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to be temporary.
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I'll be back soon, and we'll pick it up
again, okay?
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All right, great. I don't feel great
leaving this couple.
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I mean, this is a cat with a lot of
issues, and based on the tension I'm
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between the two of them, I just don't
see them being able to fix this problem.
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mean, I hope I'm wrong.
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Be good.
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I'm going in for my second visit with
Justin, Suzanne, and their silver Bengal
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Mufasa. The last time I was here,
Suzanne was... running around the room
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screaming because Mufasa was trying to
attack her. Even if we have just a
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bit of progress on that front, we have
something to work with. But I have no
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idea what to expect.
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What's going on, dude?
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Oh, not much. How you doing?
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Hi, how are you?
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Now, you've got to remember, Mufasa's a
Bengal.
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If you thought it was hard enough to get
just a normal domestic cat to do what
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you wanted them to do, try doing it with
a Bengal. I came back here for good
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news. Give me something. How have things
been? Things have been really good.
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Mufasa, we've seen some good stuff.
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Some other stuff has to change. Some
other stuff?
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Let's just start with the good stuff. I
mean, what are you noticing?
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He doesn't attack me as often. How many
attacks have you had?
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I would say two or three. So it's
gotten, like, significantly better.
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nice. I like that. And a lot of it is
that Justin, I feel like, has been doing
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his part.
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Oh, that's fantastic.
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Yeah. The last time I was here, Justin
was kind of laughing this all off. So I
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was actually pretty surprised that
Justin came around the way he did. What
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heard is fantastic.
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What I want to go over with you guys is
your video homework.
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Okay. Let's watch.
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There it is. Nice little puddle he left
for me to clean up this morning.
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Repeat. He definitely repeats.
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For the second time today, not good
enough.
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The imposter's been working the up
-downs and, you know, a little treat. I
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that's a turkey.
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Up.
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Now sit.
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Sit.
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Sit. There we go. There we go. Get down.
Sit.
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There we go, buddy. He's responded very
well.
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Good. Amazing.
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I took him fast outside for his walk,
just enjoying a taste of the great
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outdoors.
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Okay, I was really impressed with what I
saw there. I definitely see you guys
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taking appropriate control of the
situation.
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Justin's fantastic. You're working with
him so that he's not going to turn
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around. and chomp her so that's that's
fantastic i love seeing that now the
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thing's not so great on there obviously
we still got pee on the floor so we'll
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focus in on that today as glad as i am
that suzanne's not getting attacked
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anymore it was a little disheartening to
know that he was still peeing by the
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wall there's got to be a reason and i'm
here to find out what that reason is
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what i want to do is uh i want to go for
a walk you guys been on a walk ready
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today no all right I want to see it. I
wanted to take a walk with Mufasa
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I believe that his peeing problem is
territorial.
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So I wanted to get out there with him,
see firsthand what's causing it, and
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solve it. Let's follow. Let's see where
he's going.
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You see how he goes right under the
window?
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Yeah. Right?
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This is beginning to make that
connection.
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The thing is, the more he gets out here,
he gets out here every day, this world
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belongs to him. And he's going to own
this just as assuredly as he owns your
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home. This is about territory.
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This is about ownership. If he feels
like he doesn't own the home range,
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just go back to his room and write his
name all over the room. That's what we
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don't want.
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Here we go.
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Wow. Look at the size of you.
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Let's keep moving with him. Let him go
where he wants to go. We're going to
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cool for a second. We timed this.
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We took this walk. We went down towards
the corner down there, and this enormous
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cat was just sitting there just like
Fatty the Doorman.
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And I think that these cats are the
reason why Mufasa is insecure.
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So now he's coming up to see what's the
rub over here. Let's do a quick check
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-in here.
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How are you feeling?
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I don't know what to do at this point. I
see him sneaking around, and it makes
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me nervous that he's going to...
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I don't know. Try something.
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This is when I try to, like, pull him
away, but... We're going to stay cool
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a second.
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Suzanne is either expecting Mufasa to
instigate an attack or the other two
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to instigate an attack on him.
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She's seen aggressive behavior before,
but Mufasa needs to be challenged just a
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little bit.
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Let's just keep coming.
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I mean, I just want to do what he wants.
Oh, there.
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Oh, there we go.
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Right? I want to see him watch that.
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Because this is what I want him to do.
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Urine marking between cats is
communication in the absence of a verbal
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Because Mufasa is strictly an indoor
cat, he's not getting a lot of time with
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outdoor cats. So he's missing crucial
cat social skills. That's why Justin and
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Suzanne have to get him out here marking
these bushes just like the other cats.
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Then he won't feel the need to mark
inside the house.
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Let's bring it back to what's going on
in your house. There's a gap in his cat
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speak where this boy over here knows.
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You know, if I feel like I've got to own
something because you guys just walked
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up to my front door, I'm just going to
give it a little squirt, and now I know.
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The more he watches it happen, he'll do
it. This is learning language.
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Jackson pointed out that this was a
great first step.
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Once he starts peeing outside on the
bushes as opposed to our floor, then
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off the hook.
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So, I want to get to the homework that
you guys have. The first part is going
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be the practical part.
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That walk happens every single day. It
is so important that he goes out there,
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watches those two boys, and learns that
missing piece of his vocabulary, right?
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So the walk has to happen every day. The
playing, you continue. Just keep it up.
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Now, wondering what this is?
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Very much so. Basically, I started you
working on something last week.
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Well,
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we're going to start working on today.
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is I'm going to have you guys construct
a cat agility course.
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Bengals are so well suited for this
because, remember, their energy level is
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high, and you get to just get that into
a funnel and get him doing things. So
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let's grab our cones.
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Let me show you. Come on over here.
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Bengals are built for cat agility
courses because their prey drive is
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high, and that means they have a lot of
energy to expend. So they'll keep doing
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it over and over and over again, trying
to learn the lesson. So we're going to
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go around here.
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Figure eight.
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And then the next thing, we're going to
lead him here. Up here, he follows me.
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Oh, hello.
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And then he's going to follow me over
here. The reason I was called here, all
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the way from Los Angeles, was because
Mufasa was really putting a licking on
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poor Suzanne.
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So basically, the whole point of
teaching this cat agility course is to
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to exhaust this cat. Now, I want you
guys to include hoops, tunnels, and
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But the whole thing is going to be
homemade.
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I really want you guys to do this
without spending any money on stuff, all
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right? The only way Mufasa is going to
get any better is if both Justin and
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Suzanne do their homework.
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Hey, if not, this cat's going to go back
to the way he was, peeing all over the
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house and attacking Suzanne, and that is
no way to live. I will see you in just
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a few weeks.
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I expect to see this done, man. I want
to see Mufasa complete this agility
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course in under three minutes.
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That's your challenge.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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The Bengal is a hybrid breed of cat
formed by the cross of a domestic feline
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which wild cat?
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A, a lynx, B, an Asian leopard cat, or
C, an ocelot?
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Find out after the break.
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Bengal is a hybrid breed of cat formed
by the cross of a domestic feline and
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which wild cat?
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The answer is B, an Asian leopard cat.
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Asian leopard cats are about the size of
a domestic cat, but more slender, with
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longer legs and well -defined webs
between the toes to facilitate swimming
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negotiating slippery riverbanks.
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I'm on my way to go see Justin, Suzanne,
and Mufasa for our last visit. Now, the
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first time I met Mufasa, he was more
than just a handful. He was attacking
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Suzanne on a regular basis. He was
peeing all over their house and
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their relationship.
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Jetson. Hey there.
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What's going on, dude?
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I just want to see a resolution to the
point where Mufasa's energy is more
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contained, more focused, and he's owning
the world outside so that he doesn't
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have to pee in that house anymore. So I
fly all the way from California. You
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better have good news for me.
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Oh, well, we do have good news for you.
Good, good, good. Tell me all about it.
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Well, for one, he's not peeing. He's not
peeing at all?
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No. Yeah, he's out of the box and swim.
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I think the last time you were here.
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That's it?
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Pretty much.
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Wow. All right, then. Yeah, I take him
outside. Now he's peeing on the grass.
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Look, he's peeing outside.
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Take the steps in the right direction.
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That is so amazing.
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Okay. You know, he's good with that.
He's, you know, playing nice with the
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cats outside.
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He's lovable and he's just hanging out.
He seems like just chilled out, which is
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just awesome. Very nice, man.
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Has he attacked you? He does not attack
me at all anymore.
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I didn't think that would ever happen.
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Now that is amazing because it's only
been a few weeks.
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So cool.
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The first time I met Justin and Suzanne,
Suzanne was getting attacked
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constantly. She's not anymore. She
hasn't in quite a while. Why is that?
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because Mufasa's natural energy is being
drained off in a very coherent, laser
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-like way, and that means he's not
taking it out on Suzanne.
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So, finally, you got the cat agility
course.
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I want to see you guys do it. I want to
see all the things that you put together
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and how Mufasa gets through it, okay?
Okay. Come on, let's do it.
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We're nervous to show Jackson the cat
agility course because it's not as easy
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we thought it would be. And we don't
want Jackson to be disappointed because
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did so well the first time around. And I
just don't know if the final product is
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what he expects.
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We'll see.
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Now, I have a timer. You've got to come
in under the three -minute mark.
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Okay. So you tell me when to start.
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Okay. Sit and go.
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And we're off. Come on.
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Good kitty.
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Nice jump. Good kitty. Nice jump.
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See how he's got the head up? Beautiful,
beautiful.
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Good animal. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Good kitty.
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Oh, my God. You're doing so good.
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Nice, nice, nice.
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Let's see the jump.
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Yeah.
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Through the tunnel. Through the tunnel.
And stop.
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You guys broke a minute on that one.
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We came in at 47 seconds, which is
amazing. And now we do our idle dance
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I'm really scared to go. There we go.
That was amazing, man. That was actually
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an amazing course. I love the setup.
That was an amazing little piece of work
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there. Congratulations.
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I was very proud of Mufasa and us for
being able to do that. First of all.
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You guys are not the same two people
that I met. I want to give you every
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of props because, you know, you made my
trip worthwhile. I'm so glad.
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And for you, Justin, I mean, I am
incredibly impressed with your taking
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and saying, what can I do, not just for
this cat that I brought in that I love,
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but for the woman that I love. So that's
pretty amazing.
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Well, I mean, you ignited the fire back
in us to really, you know, get to where
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we needed to be.
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Mufasa is the extension of our
relationship.
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And, you know, he's strong, we're
strong.
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Right on. The couple who was at each
other's throats about their cat, who was
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unconfident that he paced back and forth
peeing on things, attacking his people.
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not part of the picture anymore because
these guys loved him enough that they
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said, we're putting everything else on
hold and every single day we're going to
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work with you because we love and
appreciate you. I love and appreciate
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guys because of what they've done. Take
care of each other.
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Take care of the boy, okay?
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We adopted Pepper and Olive.
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We haven't been able to leave them
together for more than about 10 minutes.
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Olive does not want Pepper in her home.
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She is, like, all murder all the time.
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Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh,
my God.
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Well, it's still in New York, so I'm
heading over to see Mike and Emily here
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right off Times Square. They've got a
cat named Olive who's trying to kill
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other cat, Pepper.
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So I got to get over there right now.
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I'm Mike. I'm Emily.
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We live together in New York City. We've
been together for three years. Mike and
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I met through mutual friends.
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Everything's been pretty easy for us so
far, minus the cat stuff.
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And we are about to get married.
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About a year and a half ago, we adopted
two cats, Pepper and Olive.
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They're both incredibly sweet and loving
to us, but we haven't really been able
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to leave them in the same room together
for more than about 10 minutes.
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Olive is the instigator.
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She very clearly does not want Pepper in
her home.
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Every time she sees her, she tries to
attack her and kill her.
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Once she has her eyes set on her, she is
like all murder all the time.
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We have absolutely no idea what else to
do. I'm worried that this is a problem
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that nobody can fix, but if there's
anybody who can fix it, it's Jackson
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I'm on my way to see Mike and Emily, and
they've got two cats at war in a tiny
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New York apartment. My job here is not
just to help the cats, but to help their
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people as well.
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Hey! I made it!
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Thanks for coming all the way.
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I'm really excited.
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It gave me an excuse to get out of L .A.
for a little bit. We are huge fans of
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the show. We've seen Jackson Galaxy on
the show a dozen times or however many
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episodes there have been. We've been
looking forward to meeting him in
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Well, let's start with it then. Tell me
something.
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We moved in together here about a year
and a half ago. We had Olive, who is the
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reason you're here.
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And we thought we should get her a
friend, and we got Pepper, and Olive
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with her.
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They're never in the same room at the
same time. Only when we are.
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Closely monitoring them, you know,
trying to get them to eat together, but
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that lasts for maybe 10 minutes.
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As soon as the food was done, she would
turn around, stare at Pepper, and just
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slowly stalk her.
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They can't be together at night either,
so Olive gets all upset that we're home
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and not with her, so then she cries.
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You know, pretty much every night, one
of us ends up on the couch and sleeps
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there. So we're sleeping separate.
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We're getting married in a few months,
and we sleep separate for the rest of
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night.
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Sometimes we just get really sick of
having to be in separate rooms all the
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time.
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My sad, empty bed, as Mike is on the
couch right now.
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We actually enjoy spending time
together.
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Olive can't figure out where she wants
to be. You know, she'll want to be in
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bedroom, then she'll want to be out
here, and she'll scratch the door and
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the door and throw herself against the
door. How many times a night?
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Up to five or seven.
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What? You're insane.
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This is supposed to be the honeymoon
phase of things. You're sleeping in
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separate beds.
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Let's go and take a walk around. All
right. Let's do it. Let's go.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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This is horrible.
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Right here is this vortex of ugly. New
York apartments are built in this way to
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sort of maximize living space. When you
have two warring cats, it is a death
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sentence. If one wants the other dead,
then there's no escape route.
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Bad juju right here as well, right?
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We've got this really thin hallway. We
never even thought twice about it. It
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just poses a huge trouble spot when
Pepper gets cornered down there.
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So this is Pepper, our sweet little
girl.
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She is sweet little girl. Hello, sweet
little tortie.
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00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Hello, my sweet little tortie. Oh.
450
00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:15,040
This is kind of her stuff?
451
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:19,480
Yeah, Pepper loves jumping from here up
here.
452
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:21,300
She's a jumper.
453
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,700
Does Olive do the jumping onto the
dressers? No, she's not as much of a
454
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:29,000
at all as Pepper. We have to play into
the fact that there are things that
455
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,600
doesn't like that Pepper likes. She just
loves to be high up, and Olive doesn't
456
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,439
like it.
457
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,299
There's a tool.
458
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:35,300
Put it in the belt.
459
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:38,900
Fights in here that have happened? There
used to be fights in here. We don't let
460
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,380
it happen anymore because we don't like
them getting under the bed where we
461
00:26:41,380 --> 00:26:42,239
can't break them up.
462
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,500
We feel bad for Pepper because she's
locked in this bedroom in the dark by
463
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:48,600
herself all day. She doesn't have a cat
to play with, and it's really
464
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,160
depressing. I feel really bad for her
that she's always got to worry about,
465
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,760
know, getting her behind kicked and not
having a friend.
466
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,860
Okay, guys, so now what I need is I want
to see the whole feeding ritual that
467
00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:00,860
you go through, okay?
468
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,580
So I'm just going to stand back.
469
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,080
You do what you do. Okay.
470
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:08,600
Mike and Emily had told me that these
two cats can actually be together during
471
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,540
feeding time, right near each other.
This is something that I can use to help
472
00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:14,720
figure out what's going on between these
two cats.
473
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,980
So they usually ignore each other until
Olive finishes her plate, and that's
474
00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:19,980
when the fun starts.
475
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,340
Yeah, we got a little regard here, a
little regard there.
476
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,320
She just saw Olive. Oh, God.
477
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,380
You see she just froze in her tracks
there.
478
00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:29,800
So she goes in the kitchen.
479
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:33,200
Olive is basically cutting off...
480
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:40,400
all angle right so there's no way that
this one can come
481
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:47,160
out of the kitchen let's just see what
we got here hey baby the worst place for
482
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:53,200
her to be yep the inevitable only
happens when we have uh environmental
483
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,100
ends when we just run out of highway and
we have run out of highway and look at
484
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:01,800
that angle she's taking oh man look at
her all right so now
485
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,580
We got eye contact being made.
486
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,700
Mike and Emily have told me that the
only time Olive and Pepper are in the
487
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:15,200
room together is when they're eating.
Now, I know there's a chance that Olive
488
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,540
going to go after Pepper, but I need to
see these cats do what they do during
489
00:28:19,540 --> 00:28:21,680
the feeding ritual to see how these
attacks begin.
490
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:23,780
This is the standoff.
491
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:27,000
But, of course, all standoffs have to
end.
492
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:30,420
Someone's got to make a move. Someone's
got to play chicken at some point.
493
00:28:35,459 --> 00:28:38,760
Even though I couldn't really see what
was going on, I could hear what was
494
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,080
on, and I've seen it happen so many
times. That moment right before she
495
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,720
her is the worst, because I know it's
coming.
496
00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:50,400
This is a standoff, but of course all
standoffs have to end.
497
00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,840
Someone's got to make a move. Someone's
got to play chicken at some point.
498
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,440
Even though I couldn't really see what
was going on, I could hear what was
499
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,760
on, and I've seen it happen so many
times. That moment right before she
500
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,400
her is the worst, because I know it's
coming.
501
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Hey,
502
00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:13,860
hey, hey, hey.
503
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,919
Get out of here.
504
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Get, get, get. Come here, come here.
505
00:29:17,860 --> 00:29:19,920
Here, push her to me. Come here, come
here.
506
00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:23,090
Hi, baby.
507
00:29:24,290 --> 00:29:25,370
Look at Pepper back here.
508
00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:35,290
So, you all right?
509
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:37,830
I feel like they're a mom, like they're
a protector.
510
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,070
And so when I don't get to protect them,
it really, I get sad.
511
00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:44,970
I adopted them. I could give them a good
life.
512
00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:48,830
It just makes me really sad whenever I
have to see them get in that kind of
513
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:49,830
altercation.
514
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:56,310
It's hard to watch Pepper put herself in
that position.
515
00:29:56,530 --> 00:29:58,090
Let me just tell you what I saw today.
516
00:29:58,290 --> 00:30:00,250
I saw a pretty dysfunctional
environment.
517
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:04,010
We're going to figure out a way to work
this, okay? Let me give you homework.
518
00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:05,870
Now, the first thing is this.
519
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:12,670
I want this concept absolutely gone.
What I want you to find is a better tool
520
00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:13,670
than the broom.
521
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,980
And it's something that when the cats
are about to get together, you break
522
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:18,980
sight lines.
523
00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:22,120
And then you have that moment to guide
them into a different reality.
524
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,700
This is the definition of what we don't
want. Because you have to be empowered
525
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,680
with proactive technique.
526
00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:33,660
The next thing in the bedroom, we
identified that Pepper likes height.
527
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Olive could care less about the vertical
world. If that's true, we need to
528
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,580
really start thinking about the vertical
world, right?
529
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:42,400
And finally...
530
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:44,320
Please start sleeping together again.
531
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,180
I love being able to say that.
532
00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:50,480
But the thing is, when Oliver's out
here, she's going to make noise, and you
533
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,260
not going to respond to the temper
tantrum. Let it pass. It will pass,
534
00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:57,100
Don't feel guilty because you've got a
lot of work ahead of you.
535
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,940
You've got a wedding to plan, and I want
you to know that when you leave here,
536
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,560
those guys will be okay without you,
okay?
537
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:07,260
Okay. All right. Sounds good. Good.
Thank you so much.
538
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:08,500
You're totally welcome.
539
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,760
Not only is a cat's life at stake, But
these guys want to take a honeymoon. Our
540
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,540
goal is to make sure that this couple
can kick off the rest of their life
541
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,420
just having a good time together,
knowing that their cats are not going to
542
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:22,720
don't know, dead when they get back.
543
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:31,240
This is my second visit now. The first
time I was here, we literally had one
544
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,240
that just wanted to kill another.
545
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:37,880
Olive pretty much wanted Pepper out of
the picture, and she was going to do
546
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,880
anything to prove it.
547
00:31:40,780 --> 00:31:42,600
So I don't know what to expect.
548
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,860
Hey. Hey. Good to see you again.
549
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,220
Hey. Good to see you again.
550
00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:46,859
Hey, Ben.
551
00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:47,379
Hey, Ben. Hey.
552
00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:50,960
Guys, I want you to meet my compadre
here. This is Kate.
553
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:52,580
Nice to meet you.
554
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360
She is our catification person.
555
00:31:55,740 --> 00:32:00,980
Kate is just a specialist in all things
related to cat furniture. We need to
556
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,140
live in small spaces creatively.
557
00:32:03,620 --> 00:32:09,400
She's here to make this crazy New York
hallway work for us and keep Pepper
558
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,020
I was super excited to meet her. We feel
so privileged to be able to have an
559
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:16,060
expert come in and tell us all the right
things to do. Like, it doesn't get
560
00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:16,919
better than that.
561
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Will you be here tomorrow?
562
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,940
Yeah, I will be back, and we are going
to get you all set up in the kitchen and
563
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:24,080
the hallway. Kate, thank you so much.
Yep, I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you.
564
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,300
right. Bye. Bye.
565
00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:27,340
So, tell me what's going on.
566
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,880
All right, well, we did pretty much
everything that you asked of us. I know
567
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,220
recommended to ignore Olive crying. It's
just at night when it goes on for 20,
568
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,660
30 minutes and it's 3 o 'clock in the
morning.
569
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,720
It's much, much harder to ignore that.
570
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Still haven't made it through the night
together yet.
571
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,760
I want to take a look at your video
homework.
572
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680
I'm sure there's more information in
there, okay?
573
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,180
Yep. All right, this is day one.
574
00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:52,880
I'm using a blanket to break their sight
line whenever Olive gets crazy.
575
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,720
And, oh, oh.
576
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,820
Food experiment over. Olive is back.
577
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:05,660
We also ordered these sunny seats where
you put them on the windows.
578
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,040
She just hopped right up here on her
own.
579
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120
2 .31 a .m.
580
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,380
Olive, I am so tired.
581
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:21,660
I've been up for over an hour while the
cats meow and scratch the
582
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:22,660
door at each other.
583
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:28,140
First of all, even though you've dropped
the broom, you guys were hovering
584
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:29,320
around the process.
585
00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:32,040
If we don't allow it to breathe, then I
don't know where these guys are.
586
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,020
Environmentally, the work that you
started to do was just fantastic. You
587
00:33:36,020 --> 00:33:40,520
sunny seats up, which is great. We
successfully got Pepper up off the
588
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,940
Now, give me a second. I got something
to get to help us with our progress on
589
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:45,940
the feeding, okay?
590
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,380
These guys are scared.
591
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,220
They can't let the process happen
because they're just hovering. So this
592
00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:54,020
brought some extra tools with me.
Surprise!
593
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,800
So this, obviously, is a simple piece of
cardboard.
594
00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:03,420
It costs absolutely nothing. This
becomes your sightline breaker.
595
00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:07,700
Now the thing that I want you to work on
is breaking sightlines only when you've
596
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,739
hit the point of no return. One of the
things that I noticed the last time we
597
00:34:10,739 --> 00:34:14,840
were working is that we had peace in the
kingdom as long as Olive was eating.
598
00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:18,920
So this bowl, what you're going to do is
you're going to take the food and
599
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,320
you're going to dish it around this
circle, okay? So as Olive's eating,
600
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,280
got to go around to finish her food. By
the time she finishes, Pepper is going
601
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,179
to be done and exploring the room by
herself.
602
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:33,300
So, one of you guys want to start
preparing food for me? Absolutely. Okay,
603
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,219
for it. My favorite thing probably the
whole day is Jackson brings out this
604
00:34:36,219 --> 00:34:38,900
that looks like a Bundt cake. Jackson
wanted to see us feed the cats together
605
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,800
again. So when we do put them in the
same room, it's always a stocking
606
00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:51,290
You know, we were hoping that it would
go a little better, but I wasn't really
607
00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:53,389
honestly all that optimistic about it.
608
00:34:55,389 --> 00:34:58,410
Now remember, your placement is escape
oriented, right?
609
00:34:58,690 --> 00:35:00,050
That's perfect, right in the middle.
610
00:35:01,010 --> 00:35:02,010
Good, good, good, good, good.
611
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:03,630
Put it down.
612
00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:04,690
We're good.
613
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:11,310
During the feeding thing, I was just
like a little still worried that this
614
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:12,310
never going to get better.
615
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:16,290
All right, so Pepper's walking away now.
She's done eating.
616
00:35:18,609 --> 00:35:21,270
Now here's where I feel like I don't
know what to do. Okay, wait.
617
00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:27,670
Where's she going? Follow her. She's
going into the bedroom. I can see her.
618
00:35:28,330 --> 00:35:29,590
Okay, you know what I want you to do
now?
619
00:35:30,010 --> 00:35:31,010
Please close the door.
620
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:37,250
There's nothing like the feeling of
organic completion, right?
621
00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:40,190
Give me some of that, please.
622
00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:41,530
I like that very much.
623
00:35:42,110 --> 00:35:43,750
Very good. That's never happened before.
624
00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:46,910
So I got all of this big, slow -feeding
bulb.
625
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,540
The longer it takes Olive to finish her
food, the longer Pepper has to finish
626
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:54,920
her meal, walk away, and escape to a
place where Olive won't go after her.
627
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,140
never had a situation where I haven't
had to pick one of them up. Right. When
628
00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:02,100
Olive sort of made the choice to turn
around and walk into the bedroom and go
629
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:04,460
take a nap instead of trying to attack
Pepper.
630
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,080
It was really the first time that we saw
a huge breakthrough happen. I am so
631
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,660
glad that Jackson brought us a food
bowl. My heart is happy right now. That
632
00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:14,660
a big deal.
633
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,700
We just started. We have so much more to
go. We could actually get to a point
634
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:24,080
where we have a normal situation, which
I never, ever thought would happen. So
635
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,220
I'm definitely feeling good right now.
636
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,340
The greatest part of today, I mean, I'm
really happy the cats had a good moment,
637
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,760
but I love when humans have a good
moment as well.
638
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:36,100
Ah, it's good. It's a good way to end
things, right? Yeah. So you ready for
639
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:37,140
homework? We're ready.
640
00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:38,580
Let's do it. Now.
641
00:36:38,990 --> 00:36:42,270
The first thing is, I'd like you to cut
down a little bit of the food that
642
00:36:42,270 --> 00:36:45,370
you're giving Pepper. And she'll walk
away sooner and start exploring the
643
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:46,570
while Olive is still eating.
644
00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:51,370
And second, you guys have Kate coming in
here tomorrow to work with you, and
645
00:36:51,370 --> 00:36:54,290
we're not going to have to worry anymore
about Pepper being trapped.
646
00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:57,370
Finally, the only way.
647
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,660
that you're going to be able to sleep
together for the rest of your life is if
648
00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:03,580
you ignore Olive completely.
649
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,620
So when she's scratching on the door,
you let it happen. You have to break
650
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:11,200
habit. All right. I think the payoff is
going to be huge for you. All right,
651
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920
guys. Awesome. Great to see you again.
Thank you so much for everything.
652
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:18,120
Bye -bye. The next time I come back
here, I really hope to be able to show
653
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,700
and Emily that these two cats can just
hang out together with no violence
654
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:25,160
because these two cats have shown they
can get violent when they're around each
655
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,160
other.
656
00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:31,370
It's been about three weeks since the
last time I saw Mike and Emily, Pepper,
657
00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:36,010
and Olive. The first time I ever met
these guys, Olive and Pepper were always
658
00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:37,130
the verge of killing one another.
659
00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:42,990
I want to see these two cats able to be
in the same room for an extended period
660
00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:44,450
of time with no violence.
661
00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:49,670
So, the first time I came to visit you
guys, you weren't sleeping in the same
662
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:50,670
bed for the most part.
663
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:55,530
We had General Olive absolutely stalking
Pepper mercilessly.
664
00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:56,990
What's changed since then?
665
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,860
Well, a whole lot has changed. We are
sleeping in the same bed just about
666
00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:05,500
night, which is great. I was waiting for
that one.
667
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,380
You know, we ignored Olive's crying,
like you suggested, which really helped.
668
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,820
The crying in the bedroom has almost
stopped completely.
669
00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:15,980
Now, we had a lot of environmental
enrichment done in the house.
670
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Kate came over and kind of catified the
house, right?
671
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,020
We've been feeding them together, which
has gone pretty well. We don't have
672
00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:27,160
anything, really. I'm not holding a
broom or even the cardboard dividers we
673
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,340
made. They're available.
674
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:31,440
But for the most part, we feed them, and
then it ends peacefully.
675
00:38:31,780 --> 00:38:32,780
Can we take a walk around?
676
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,300
Do it. Let's go. Do it. Come on.
677
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:36,360
First place. I'm psyched here.
678
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Yeah.
679
00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:39,339
That's amazing.
680
00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:44,760
So she comes running in here, and she
can go zippity -doo -dah up here, and
681
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,760
she has two exits.
682
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,200
She can come out this way.
683
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,740
She can come out that way.
684
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,020
There's no way for Olive to trap her
anymore.
685
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:54,320
Oh, my God.
686
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,040
That's incredible.
687
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,500
This is cat heaven here. Now she can run
in here up and out again. New York
688
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:07,860
apartments in general, huge challenge.
This place with the Z -shaped hallways
689
00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:11,140
and everything, it was a nightmare from
the beginning. The cats can get in and
690
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,720
out. No dead end.
691
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,660
Awesome job, buddy.
692
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,480
So. That leaves us with our major test
of the day.
693
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Deep breath.
694
00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:28,140
Why not take it a step further? I want
to see these two cats play together in
695
00:39:28,140 --> 00:39:32,100
the same space and raise their energy
level up together a little bit more.
696
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,220
Are you breathing? I'm breathing.
Promise.
697
00:39:40,820 --> 00:39:43,900
This is firmly outside everyone's
comfort zone.
698
00:39:45,860 --> 00:39:47,260
There were a few moments.
699
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:52,260
when Olive and Pepper were out together
that I got really concerned because I
700
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:55,380
thought they were going to get in a
fight. And you just have a moment of,
701
00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:57,760
come so far, please don't let this ruin
it all.
702
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,240
Oh, hello.
703
00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:07,720
Everything is normal.
704
00:40:08,620 --> 00:40:09,620
Your turn.
705
00:40:10,580 --> 00:40:11,580
Good girl.
706
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:17,500
When I first met Pepper, she found
herself getting cornered by Olive and
707
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:21,680
in constant fear. Now she has a lot more
confidence because she lives in a world
708
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,980
full of escape routes instead of death
traps. And because Pepper's not acting
709
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:28,260
like prey anymore, Olive's not treating
her like prey.
710
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:30,260
So, we got what?
711
00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:35,710
48 minutes of the cats being with each
other. It's definitely probably twice as
712
00:40:35,710 --> 00:40:39,010
long. At least, if not more. At least
that we've ever left them out together.
713
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:43,910
And the longest it's ever gone where it
didn't go sour, you know? So we're
714
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:44,910
happy.
715
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:48,810
It was amazing seeing them together in
the same room, not hurting each other.
716
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:51,470
Good girl.
717
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:54,630
It makes my heart feel so much better
that I'm...
718
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,780
Able to give them a life that I know
they deserve because they're really
719
00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:04,200
cats and they deserve to be happy now
from here on We've established a new
720
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,780
of dialogue between them which you guys
have been doing the entire time by the
721
00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:11,520
way Every day that you do these
exercises you're teaching them.
722
00:41:11,820 --> 00:41:15,750
This is how you speak to one another I
don't even think we could put into words
723
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:19,190
how much we appreciate everything that
you've done. You've, like, turned us
724
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:23,630
normal people living completely normal
lives. And I feel like, you know, our
725
00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:27,190
wedding, our honeymoon, all the stuff
that we were so nervous about now, all
726
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:30,730
that stuff just feels happy. And
seriously, it's because of you. So thank
727
00:41:30,730 --> 00:41:32,150
so, so, so, so much.
728
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:35,550
It was great to meet you. Jackson, thank
you so much. You're totally welcome.
729
00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:37,510
Seriously, thank you. You're welcome.
730
00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:39,350
You guys were amazing.
731
00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:43,370
Have a happy wedding. Thank you. An
amazing honeymoon. Thank you. Bye,
732
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:47,450
I love my job because I get to work with
people like Mike and Emily. These guys
733
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:51,870
were a united team. Even though their
life was so full of grief, they were
734
00:41:51,870 --> 00:41:56,290
to the possibility that it could be full
of nothing but love. And that's what
735
00:41:56,290 --> 00:41:57,288
they got today.
736
00:41:57,290 --> 00:42:00,770
Man, I am so psyched that I could have
been here for that.
63905
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