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City the kitty scares me because I know
that if he can get close enough to me,
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he will attack me.
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When he attacks Missy, we're really
afraid he's going to kill her.
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Get down!
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Fat kitty!
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Fat kitty!
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Mad Max, he's the neighborhood bully.
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Max goes around to the neighbor's houses
and beats up their cats.
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And we're expecting our first baby right
now. I'm definitely terrified.
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Max scratches our baby.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats one -on -one, analyzing their
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behaviors and retraining them and their
guardians.
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When relationships are at an end... I
feel like I have to choose between my
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friends. ...and cat guardians have
reached their emotional limit... It's
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of the line. ...I'm their last hope.
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I think your fear feeds the dynamic
between the two of you. Cats have nine
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lives, but humans only have one.
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right now to laurie and shauna they sent
me in a video and i'm telling you this
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is like walking into the lion's den whoa
this guy is completely ferocious
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oh oh oh i'm
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shauna i'm laurie and we've been dating
for two and a half years we met online
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and just clicked really well
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City the kitty is a very interesting
cat. We think he's Bengal -Mank's mix,
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he showed up just out in front of the
house just over two years ago. We
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going to keep him because we already had
another cat, Missy.
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We tried to give him away. We tried to
find where he came from, and we had no
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luck. And eventually we fell in love
with him and started taking pictures of
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every day. He started posing and doing
amazing things.
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Yeah, we thought, well, he's meant to be
in this house.
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Siddy the kitty scares me because I know
that if he can get close enough to me,
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he will attack me.
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And it's happened numerous times.
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He jumps with, like, his claws and his
teeth spared. Like, he wants to cause
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damage. He attacks Missy.
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When he attacks Missy, we're really
afraid he's going to kill her.
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City the Kitty is a source of argument
for us. I'm the one that's always trying
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to take care of the fights.
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With City the Kitty and Missy...
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Shawna never asked me how she can help
deal with City the Kitty and his
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behavioral problems. Never? No.
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You never ask?
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That's not true. That I'm getting in
trouble. I play with him and stuff.
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Well, you play with him, but you don't
give me ideas on how to make him a
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cat.
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I believe that the cats should be able
to work it out themselves.
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Because, you know, animal kingdom and
stuff. So basically you don't know what
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do, but you're yelling at me.
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To try to tell me that at least I'm
trying to do something, but that it's
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working. But it's raising my blood
pressure, what you do, so.
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Well, maybe if you got up and helped me,
it wouldn't raise your blood pressure.
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The safety of Missy and myself is at
stake right now. I can't look at my
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pet and think, he wants to kill me.
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Even though it may hurt you, and even
though he scares you, he...
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has come into our lives for a reason. I
think eventually someday he's going to
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be there to be able to change the world
in different ways for the better.
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So I think truly it's because we feel
there's a whole reason in this.
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Hey.
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Hey, how's it going?
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I'm Jackson. Hey, nice to meet you. I'm
Shauna. Hey, Shauna. Money. Thanks.
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Hi, Jackson. I'm Lori.
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Hey, Lori. Good to meet you.
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My first impression of Jackson, I really
like his energy that he brings.
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I can relax.
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Somebody's going to take care of us now.
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We have a cat that kind of attacks our
other cat. As soon as he came in, he
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started to sort of establish something
with Missy. They growled a lot and
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at each other and attacked.
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Has she been injured by him?
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Nothing serious. You haven't seen blood?
No. What about your story with him?
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Yeah, he likes to attack me. But not
you? But not her. No, I've established
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I think he knows that I'm kind of more
putting him in his place. The
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other thing that I do is I'll go, I'll
get some butter, and I'll rub
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it on his back.
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Still licking the butter off.
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There was a couple at the event, they
were like, if you need to go to bed and
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leave the cats out, we just rub our cat
down with butter.
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Is that where we got it? Yeah, that's
where we got it. It actually works? Yes,
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but it only buys time.
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Plus, there's this one other thing where
he actually might see getting buttered
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as... I love just saying that.
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Getting buttered as reward.
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In all my years of working with cats,
I've never seen anybody butter their
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I mean, it sends the wrong message. It
means he can get away with anything he
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wants to do. It's crazy.
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I mean, it's like if you covered me in
whipped cream, right?
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I mean, I would spend the next half hour
going, oh, the whipped cream, what did
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I do right? I haven't actually seen him
up close and personal, but breed -wise,
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he's kind of crazy looking. Yeah, the
Bengal mank -mank.
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You're not even sure?
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Yeah, with the short tail and
polydactyl, too. He has extra thumbs.
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And the Bengal part? And he looks like a
leopard kind of.
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Well, I mean, he's part wild animal like
the Bengal. Well, he is. He doesn't
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hiss, but he breathes weird. When
there's animals outside the door, he
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Huffing like a big cat?
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What's he doing to you guys?
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I think the main thing is that if I hear
the fight, then I go run and try to...
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intercept it, try to change it. When she
yells, it... I don't like that. It
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makes me feel tense and icky. I don't
know exactly why City the Kitty is
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attacking Shauna, but he also launches
himself at her throat when she's
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standing. That's something I haven't
dealt with before. Shauna, come on in
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me for a second.
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All right.
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I'm a little confused.
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Yeah.
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I want to see you and him together.
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Okay. I just want to see that you...
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Well, you're already a little... Just
tell me, show me what you guys are like
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together.
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He's like that.
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What I want to see is you try to
manipulate him a little bit. So he's on
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bed. He's not supposed to be on the bed.
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Show me what he does.
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Ready?
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Okay,
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one more time.
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So the idea is I got to get you off the
bed.
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Ow. Yes, it is.
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I hear he got you.
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Ow.
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Ow. Ow.
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Ow.
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Ow.
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Damn it.
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So now you're a little freaked out by
the... Yeah, a little bit.
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I think your fear...
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feeds whatever this thing is.
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So we're going to find constructive ways
to release this circle between the two
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of you guys.
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Here's the thing about Bengals and
people who are attracted to Bengals is
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they're attracted to that wild side.
They want to see Wildcat, and then they
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don't know what to do with it. And I can
tell you that that's how City the Kitty
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wound up on the street in the first
place. But I need to see City the Kitty
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Missy together, and that'll help me to
understand the whole picture.
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Big red flag area right here. And I'll
tell you why. Right now she's trapped
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herself.
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There's no getting out of there.
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He's got all the power in the world.
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So that's why she's hissing. She's only
hissing because she's trying to send a
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message that, you know, she's back up.
You know what I mean? But she has no
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She's stuck there. What we're going to
be working on with him is structuring
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play to the point where he's exhausted
every night.
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And if he's not exhausted every night
and he starts doing the things that he's
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doing with you guys, it's on you at that
point because I'm telling you, he could
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kill her.
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I'm hopeful yet skeptical that Jackson
will be able to fix the situation
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City the Kitty and Missy because...
Because he's not like a normal cat. No,
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not. I guess he's not. I mean, I guess
he's not a normal cat.
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I've been around enough. I guess, you
know, that bangle thing in him is kind
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crazy and wild and...
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I want to see constructive ways that we
can use this energy.
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One thing we do is we actually take City
for a walk.
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On a harness and just down the street?
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Yeah, he loves it. He goes out there on
a leash and walks pretty well. One of
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the things I love is when I think to
myself, these guys should really take a
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for a walk, and I ask them and they
already do it. They know what they need
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certain degree.
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He walks wonderfully on the leash.
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Yeah, it took a while. First, he would
not walk at all. Come on, buddy.
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Come on.
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Lori doesn't want him to go more than
four houses down.
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That's not really functional.
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What I'd like to do is I want to expand,
actually, how far you go with him. You
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know, his natural range would be about
six of these square blocks.
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Six of these blocks would belong to him,
and he would spend the entire day.
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following the sun around your
neighborhood.
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That's so far and dangerous, though.
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But that's his nature. Yeah. So the fact
that you can even halfway replicate
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that will give him confidence and drain
his energy in a positive way.
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I feel like if he tries to get off the
leash and he's super far away, you know,
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he may run away forever. So I try to
keep him in his little safe area.
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it's probably my safe area.
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That's my idea. Yeah.
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Okay.
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This usually does the trick, at least
inside.
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So I brought out my feathered bird toy,
which mimics air prey perfectly, just
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like a bird. And it plays into a
Bengal's need to expend energy and jump.
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Oh, hello.
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Oh, hello.
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There we have it.
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Give me some more, Bubba.
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With a cat like him, you're going to see
the second wind. You're going to see
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the third wind. You've got to follow
these winds until he can't do it. So
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going to happen?
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is that with every win that he has,
you're going to have diminishing
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So first we had about a five -minute
crazy play session.
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This time you might get two minutes out
of him. Then he's going to relax again.
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Then you're going to get 30 seconds out
of him. Then he's done.
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The level of energy in a Bengal may be
hard to understand for a lot of people.
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They have a constant need to move, to
hunt, to scope, to jump. They need to
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jump. They need to scout from high up.
They have this incredible jungle energy
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built into their genetics. And if you're
not working with that energy, you're
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working against that energy.
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So let me give you guys some homework
for the week. I want you to be working
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his energy. I want you to be dealing
with not only draining the energy out of
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him, but doing it creatively.
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Walking. Lori, that seems like it's kind
of your arena, so I'd like you to keep
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doing that. But also, take him further.
You know, really, go as far as he wants
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to go. I wanted to make sure that I gave
you his special toy. All right. Oh,
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thank you.
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Wow.
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That's something that I want him playing
with every single day.
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I'd like you to be in charge of playtime
with the toy.
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And the reason is I want the activity to
happen outside your body. He sees your
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body as being that release point, and I
want the release point to be a good five
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feet away. Okay. The last thing I need
you guys to do is video journal and do a
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lot of it and send it in to me, okay?
Well, I'm hoping that with the
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that Jackson gives us, she'll be doing
more of the taking control of it since
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the bad behavior is directed at her.
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So now, it's all in her hands.
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Jackson to the last resort.
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I'm heading in for my second visit with
Lori and Shauna right now, and I want to
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see if they've made any progress,
because really, I'm still pretty
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about the attacks that I've seen on
Shauna and... Yeah!
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Hi,
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good to see you.
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I'm really excited for Jackson to see
what we've been doing. I'm confident
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we're doing well, but I would like his
expert opinion.
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What I want to do is I've got the
footage that you guys shot from your
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journal and I want to go over it with
you.
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He loves that new toy. He killed it
officially last night. Good.
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That's what we like.
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Destruction on things that should be
destroyed as opposed to you. When I gave
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Lori and Shauna homework about playing
with City the Kitty, they took that to
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the bank, which is what I really like to
see.
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Okay. Bye, guys.
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This time, Shauna's taking an active
role.
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She's the one stepping up. She's doing a
lot of activity.
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She gets it now.
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But Lori has more work to do on the
walking with City.
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And he hasn't really bit me.
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Pretty damn impressive.
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Let's go over it a little bit. Let's
start with the good.
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Obviously, his level of play is off the
charts.
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We found that the more we play with him,
it seems like he's got more energy.
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Yeah, well, no, this is who he is. I
loved what I saw between him and Missy.
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You're not seeing that look that...
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where he's getting wound up watching her
be in action, and he wants a piece of
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her. I mean, we're still in the
discovery phase of the city.
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Obviously, with the walking, one thought
that struck me... I'm just totally
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reading your face right now. I know,
really.
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Tell me what's going on.
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It just seems so far like there's all
this danger out there, like dogs and...
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Well, he does get spooked sometimes.
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But he's on the leash.
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Well, he flew through the air. One time
he got spooked and he literally jumped
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like four feet in the air. Luckily, I
was holding on pretty tight. He went
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flying. But I feel like even if we did
accidentally let go, it would be easy to
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get him again.
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Yeah. That's what I feel. Because, I
mean, the leash is pretty long and I
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feel like he would get too far.
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Get it done. Because I'd love to see by
the time I come back here next time.
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that you guys are doing circles, that
you're doing blocks, because it is that
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important that you acclimate and that he
acclimates to a longer walk. It's that
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important. Sean seemed really committed
to the homework while Lori didn't really
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follow through with the walking. Now I
really want to see Sean in action with
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City. Let's go see him. All right, cool.
Let's do it.
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How is it with you getting him on and
off the bed? I've actually had some
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success there. I grabbed him and, like
you did, I grabbed him by the scruff of
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the neck and then grabbed him underneath
and just calmly put him down outside.
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Didn't hold him for too long when I did
that. I just grabbed him, put him down.
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Get him off the bed.
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All right.
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I just want to watch to see how you do
it.
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Good boy.
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I'm really proud of Shauna. She's
putting her fear aside and bringing more
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confidence to her interactions with him.
I still think there's adjustments I
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need to make with her, but really a
fantastic improvement. When you walked
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me, you went like this, and then you did
one pet, and then you started going for
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the grab, and there it is. Right. Right?
I'm going to say hi to him, just eyes
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and mouth, right?
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City the kitty.
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What are you doing, city the kitty?
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Come on.
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You're down.
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So let's talk a little bit about your
fear level now. I feel like I have more
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tools at my disposal to diffuse the
situation and not let him jump at me. So
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feel a lot more in control and a lot
better for my, you know, not being
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Your sanity? Yeah.
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Well, listen, I mean, there's still
something there.
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So I got a surprise.
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Let's go ahead and take a look. Okay.
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Okay.
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This is what I got you guys. It is your
city wheel.
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We're going to get him in there.
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And it's actually, it was invented
because Bengals tend to run people into
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ground. So this is sort of a Bengal
wheel. I say, let's get him on this
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Right now, all we're doing is getting
him sitting there.
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Good, good.
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There you go.
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Look at him go.
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Go, buddy.
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He's got to get used to this a little
more.
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Come on, sweetie.
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You see how he's still kind of gripping
on? All right.
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That was great. Remember, the wheel is a
great tool, but it's just one more tool
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in your toolbox that we've been
building, okay? The cat wheel is a great
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have in your toolbox with a bangle, but
it's not enough. It just gets that basic
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exercise in.
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Now, I don't usually do this.
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But I want to do homework with you guys
today.
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We're all going to take City for a walk
together.
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We need to.
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This is not about what she wants.
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This is about what he needs. He needs to
get out into that neighborhood. He
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needs to walk around. And she's letting
her fear dictate what he gets to do. And
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if she doesn't walk him farther, they're
going to continue to have the same
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problems they've had.
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And now it's time for a kiddie bit.
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A cat's heart beats how many times per
minute? A, 60, B, 140, or C, 220?
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Find out after the break.
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A cat's heart beats how many times per
minute?
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The answer is B, 140, and that's twice
as fast as a human's.
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Come to me.
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This is our magic spot.
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I decided to go on the walk with them
and start homework with them today
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because, to be completely honest, I
didn't trust Lori to do it. She didn't
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last time. Why would she do it this
time? So I just wanted to make sure that
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was there to push her past that initial
point of comfort today.
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Now, well, tell me, what is your normal
turn back point? We just turn around
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right here at this greenhouse.
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The greenhouse? The greenhouse. You
ready? That's it. We're going past the
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greenhouse. Let's go. We're going way
past the greenhouse.
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There are certain breeds that need to go
for walks.
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Bengals need to go for walks. And
Bengals possess so much energy, and this
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great way for them to vent that energy
in a constructive way.
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We are now passing the greenhouse. Yes,
we are.
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I'm here. For reals, we're going further
this time. I know. He looked up like,
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are you sure?
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I think Jackson wanted to hold my hand a
little bit.
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He wanted me to see that nothing's going
to happen to City and that it's going
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to be a positive experience.
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I'm about to go in for my third visit
with Shawna, Lori, City, the Kitty, and
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Missy.
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Yeah, come on in.
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Come in. And I'm really hoping to find
that they've...
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attacked every part of the homework.
Hey. Hey, Jackson. How are you guys?
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Good, how are you?
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I'm great.
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Now, this would be the scene of the
first time I was here. That's right.
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things were kind of ugly.
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Let's have you pick him up. Just put him
on the bed. I just want to see you take
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him away from that area.
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Yeah, that's right.
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He talked to you.
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The way I approach City is much
different now, too.
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pick him up and put him down like I'm
not afraid of him anymore. The
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of all the things that Jackson's having
us do has really given me the confidence
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to know how to deal with City. I'm just
loving what I'm seeing. I mean, she just
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looks completely relaxed.
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How freaking cool is this?
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Okay, so you just saw how close they
got, where in the past, he would have
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redirected that aggression onto her, or
she would have run and provoked.
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Look at that. Wow. I want to make sure
you guys get how insane that is after
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amount of weeks that you've been
working. It's comforting to see that
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terrorized and she's not upset. And she
actually, I think she kind of likes him
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now. Today, I'm seeing so much better
Kat. And it's all because his energy is
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being channeled in a proper way.
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Overall, you guys have done amazing
work, and I think he's the better for
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And, of course, Missy is ten times the
better for it as well.
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Jackson has been a wonderful
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help. He's been a great presence, and
it's been a pleasure working with him.
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Thank you, Jackson.
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You pick it out, buddy.
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That's funny.
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City the kitty.
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Thank you.
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We're expecting our first baby right
now. I'm definitely terrified if Max
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scratches our baby.
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The one thing Kelly and I fight about
seems to be Max.
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If I have to make the choice between Mad
Max or my baby, I'm going to have to go
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with the baby.
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I'm going over to Ned and Kelly's house
right now.
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They said they're expecting their first
child.
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Max, you got to come out.
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And they need help. This cat is vicious.
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Hi, I'm Ned. And I'm Kelly. We've been
married for almost three years, and
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actually expecting our first baby right
now.
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Mad Max is my special little cat.
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I got him pre -Ned.
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He was just this teeny little thing, and
I could tell that he'd been abused.
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I picked him up, and it was love at
first sight, and brought him home, and
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that's when all hell broke loose.
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Max, you got to come out from under
there.
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He's trashed our house when we were out
of town. He's been peeing in our sinks.
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He's the neighborhood bully.
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Max goes around to the neighbor's houses
and beats up their cats.
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He'll claw open our screen door.
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climb up the trellis like a ladder, claw
the neighbor's screen door open.
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And then our neighbors terrify him.
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My biggest concern is the baby getting
suffocated by Max.
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I'm definitely terrified if Max
scratches our baby or smothers our baby.
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Kelly and I never fight about anything,
but the one thing we fight about seems
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to be Max. If I have to make the choice
between Mad Max or my baby, I'm going to
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have to go with the baby.
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I just really hope it's a choice we
don't have to make.
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This is literally the biggest thing
we've ever fought about, and we have to
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figure this out.
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We have a couple months to go until the
baby's here.
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We don't have a lot of time. We now have
a deadline.
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When a family goes through changes in
their life, everyone, including their
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needs to learn how to adjust.
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Good to meet you. Come on in. Hey. Hi,
I'm Kelly.
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Hey, Kelly.
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Yeah, sure.
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Mad Max, that's his actual name? He
started as Max, and over time as he's
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crazier, we've named him Mad Max.
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A lot of the bad behavior is trying to
escape to the neighbor's house and get
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over into their patios. They literally
pull their screen door open, go into
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their house, and then attack their cats
or their kids. The kids, too? Yeah, and
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my wife is four months along, and
there's concern there of getting
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Yeah, he sleeps on my chest a lot. I'm
worried about him being jealous. I'm
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spending a lot of time with the baby
that he'll lash out at the baby.
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Wow, okay.
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And because he goes into the neighbor's
houses and bites their kids, we've kept
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him inside, which has made him worse.
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So this tends to thwart Max. He'll claw
at the screen. How did you even discover
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that? What is that thing?
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I think the noise. The noise is what
works. And that's what we have to do if
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he's trying to get out the screen door
and stuff.
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Oh. So when you shoot at him, he stays
away? No, he'll run away, and 30 seconds
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later, he's back clawing at the screens.
And we'd like to let him go on this
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back patio, but again, he's hopping over
into the neighbors.
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So you guys built something out there?
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This is our fifth or sixth version of,
we call it the Max Penitentiary. I'm
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really curious to see what it looks
like, though. Come on, let's go take a
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What is this thing? It is half home and
garden, half Alcatraz.
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This is a cat, not a criminal. How in
the hell is he getting over that?
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Oh, climb up.
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Oh, I see. You can see his outline right
there.
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It's really interesting that you guys
describe it as Max Penitentiary because
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the whole vibe of the approach to Max is
based around restraint.
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It's almost the energy of control as
opposed to what I would love to try to
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explore with you guys, which is an
opening.
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What can we do to open the world to him?
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I would actually just like him to be a
cat and just do his thing.
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The problem is our neighbors.
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What happens if the problems continue?
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First, we get fined, and if it's not
resolved and Mad Max continues to harass
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our neighbor, they'll complain, and then
we'll be told we have to get rid of
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him. And if we don't get rid of him
because I'm not getting rid of my cat,
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get evicted.
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You know, a 45 -degree angle is going to
stop any cat. It's actually true. So a
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45 -degree angle basically ensures that
when a cat goes to jump over something,
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they're going to see it coming directly
over their head. So he's going to stop,
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he's going to go to make that jump, he's
going to see that it comes out over his
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head, and he's just not going to go for
it. It's over. That's just invigorating
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00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,200
to me, to know I won't have to deal with
this trellis anymore.
452
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,760
But that being said, I still want to
spend some time with him. Yeah. Good.
453
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,620
Well, let's go meet him. All right,
let's do that. All right.
454
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:18,280
Oh, you're not happy with me, are you?
455
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Kelly,
456
00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:25,200
do you tend to... Hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey.
457
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:28,700
Let's talk about that moment.
458
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,880
You see the way he's sitting right now,
the way that tail is going?
459
00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:33,680
He's controlling that area.
460
00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:37,780
So if I walk here and I try to control
this area, all of the signs that he's
461
00:28:37,780 --> 00:28:43,620
giving me right now, if I went for a
touch right now, I would get... See it?
462
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,360
See it?
463
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,920
I know. I'm sorry, buddy.
464
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:48,220
I'm sorry.
465
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:51,240
What I want to show you is that that's
predictable.
466
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,680
He's just misdirected. He needs to have
a funnel for his energy.
467
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,600
And I'm going to give that to him.
468
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,860
You've got to be a little hungry.
469
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,800
Hi. So I go in the room to have some
time alone with Max, and as soon as I
470
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,840
in there, I touched something I
shouldn't have touched. Good morning.
471
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,000
said, hey, hey, don't touch that.
472
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:11,300
I said, fine.
473
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Good boy.
474
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:17,390
Good boy, Mad Max.
475
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:19,390
I don't think I like calling you Mad
Max.
476
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:21,250
How about just Mac?
477
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:26,650
Max, when he goes to swipe at you, he
doesn't bare his teeth, really. This is
478
00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:29,050
warning. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I
don't like this.
479
00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:34,010
And you need to respect that. And if you
don't respect it, the next time there's
480
00:29:34,010 --> 00:29:36,270
going to be claws. The next time there
might be teeth.
481
00:29:36,510 --> 00:29:37,570
But that's down the road.
482
00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:39,490
Let's start with this.
483
00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:41,490
Max.
484
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Good boy.
485
00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:48,260
Good boy.
486
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,060
Look at that. We're playing a little
bit, and I look down, and I realize
487
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:54,700
no normal collar he's got on.
488
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:58,140
He's got a shock collar on? They were
just taking a shortcut.
489
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,360
It's not going to work. In any more
fashion than shooting that weird gun at
490
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:04,680
it's desperation.
491
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:10,080
And I have to show them that these are
not desperate times, and they don't call
492
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,080
for desperate measures.
493
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,880
I want to check out your...
494
00:30:14,860 --> 00:30:16,280
Habits. All right, Max.
495
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,720
I hear your bad areas to paint, so let's
go check that out, shall we?
496
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:25,680
And there it is.
497
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:31,540
Wow. That is one nasty litter box.
498
00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:35,880
If the litter box is right here, there's
a sink right here, and the cat is
499
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,640
choosing to pee in the sink, that's
because the litter box is not a very
500
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,640
attractive place.
501
00:30:41,130 --> 00:30:43,170
You've got to tell your people a thing
or two.
502
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:49,170
Ned and Kelly have settled into this
routine of projectiles and pigeon
503
00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:52,430
I mean, they've got this cat completely
in jail.
504
00:30:52,990 --> 00:30:56,370
I saw a few things that were kind of
concerning to me, so let me hit those
505
00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:58,450
things with you. Tell me about that
shock collar.
506
00:30:58,850 --> 00:31:00,370
I call it the final resort.
507
00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:04,730
We don't know what else to do. Well, he
doesn't have it on anymore.
508
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:08,310
Let me try anything else, because as you
guys are going to find out with me,
509
00:31:08,330 --> 00:31:12,950
whether it's... The shock collar,
whether it's that weird little gun,
510
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:18,410
it's the squirt bottles, those things
are going to just wind up getting him
511
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:23,490
and more compressed energetically until
when he blows, he's going to blow big.
512
00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:27,930
The second thing, in order to get Max to
stop peeing in the sink, you've got to
513
00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:28,930
clean his litter box.
514
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:34,750
As for your baby, that is something that
we have to prepare for. Yeah.
515
00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:36,450
Everything that's new. Ah.
516
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:43,300
is going to set his bells and whistles
off, your parental instinct may be to
517
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:47,520
separate him. That's not what you want
to do at all. You want inclusion. If you
518
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,440
include him safely, then it won't be
something that overstimulates him, and
519
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,199
make sure of that.
520
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,560
So what we have to do is make sure that
the air gets taken out of this energetic
521
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,420
balloon every day. Once the baby
comes...
522
00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:05,050
I think a lot of this is going to fall
on you in terms of the upkeep in terms
523
00:32:05,050 --> 00:32:07,270
play. Are you cool with that? I'm fine.
Good.
524
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:12,130
Homework is we're going to make that
barrier that we were talking about with
525
00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:13,130
45 -degree angle.
526
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:18,810
Second thing is draining the energy out
through productive things like playtime
527
00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:20,150
with them. But we're not done.
528
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:23,870
Yeah, okay. We still have baby
preparations to do. Yeah. Okay? And
529
00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:27,530
important because I can kind of sense a
little bit of nervousness about that.
530
00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:28,670
That covers...
531
00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:29,910
A lot of ground.
532
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:31,310
We have a lot to do.
533
00:32:31,570 --> 00:32:32,570
We do have a lot to do.
534
00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:36,950
Ned and Kelly are in a really serious
position here, a really fragile place.
535
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:40,570
about to take a walk on over to Ned and
Kelly's neighbor Clarice's house because
536
00:32:40,570 --> 00:32:44,530
I hear she's being really harassed by
Max, and I just want to hear the story
537
00:32:44,530 --> 00:32:45,530
right out of her mouth.
538
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:49,700
How are you? Good, thanks. My name is
Jackson. I'm a cat behaviorist. Hi. I'm
539
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:53,220
working with Ned and Kelly next door.
You know the cat. I do know the cat,
540
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:56,100
I was wondering if you had a few minutes
to talk to me, just because I'm trying
541
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,040
to solve the problem here, and I thought
you'd be a unique perspective.
542
00:33:00,140 --> 00:33:04,360
The neighbors are not happy. I'm not the
only one. You know, there's just been
543
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,880
several occasions where Max has
tormented the other neighbors. And I've
544
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,760
had him stalk me out in front of the
house. We've kind of made eye contact,
545
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,420
he's actually chased me down the stairs.
He scares me.
546
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,760
Kind of at my wit's end.
547
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,500
We can't have that. Let's make no
mistake about this. This is a really
548
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,020
situation. Clarice is the only neighbor
here who's willing to work this out with
549
00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:28,720
Max. The other neighbors have already
thrown in a towel, and they've already
550
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,000
notified the homeowners association.
551
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:36,220
It's been two weeks since I last saw Ned
and Kelly, and I can't wait to check in
552
00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:39,160
with them and see how their progress is
going with Max and the fence.
553
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,840
Hi, Jackson.
554
00:33:42,060 --> 00:33:44,660
Hi, Kelly. How are you? I'm great. How
are you doing? Come on in.
555
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Hey, nice to see you again. Nice to see
you too.
556
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:52,040
Tell me about the cats. What's going on?
It's getting a lot better.
557
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,380
I've definitely noticed that he's
calmer. So we're optimistic that we're
558
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:56,380
right track.
559
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Tell him about the fence. Yeah, I feel
like a very big man now for spending the
560
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,820
day getting a fence up out there.
561
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,020
You know what? Let's go take a look. All
right.
562
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840
I'm excited.
563
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,340
And there it is.
564
00:34:11,509 --> 00:34:15,290
Nice work. Yeah. Look at that. I feel
like a man. You hit that 45 -degree
565
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:21,090
perfectly. And so he's basically just
coming up to this, and he's like, I
566
00:34:21,090 --> 00:34:24,790
do this. Yeah, he'll just come up and
just sort of stare at it. I got to tell
567
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:30,429
you, man, I'm really impressed that the
feeling of Max Penitentiary is gone.
568
00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:32,909
Now, we have to move to the next phase.
569
00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:34,130
Okay. Okay?
570
00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:39,810
I need for him to have a world worth
living here so that we're not waiting
571
00:34:39,810 --> 00:34:44,370
months for him to strategize his
jailbreak. What we need to see out here
572
00:34:44,370 --> 00:34:48,110
more places to hang out. I want to see
flats of grass. I want to see catnip
573
00:34:48,110 --> 00:34:51,690
growing out here, things that he can
chomp on and roll around in like it was
574
00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:56,429
front lawn. Now, Ned, here's what I want
from you right now. Last time we were
575
00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:59,570
having a little bit of an issue with the
holding part of this.
576
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,360
If you can actually grab him right now,
I just want to see you petting him in
577
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,560
the way that we were talking about last
time. Come here, Max.
578
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:10,420
Come here, buddy.
579
00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:12,580
Can I pick you up?
580
00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:17,100
Just pick him up. No, he doesn't want me
to. Well, here, he's just going to get
581
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,100
agitated.
582
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,420
Here, let me show you.
583
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Huh.
584
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,800
That's not going to work. No.
585
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,280
I'm still seeing Ned go to a place of
frustration way too easily. I mean, when
586
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,780
he went down there and Max is suddenly
flipping out, the tail is going, the
587
00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:36,000
teeth are going. I mean, it's like
chicken and the egg. Whose switch got
588
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,600
first? I saw some things on the video
that you guys took, and if you don't
589
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:43,200
I actually want to go over it with you.
590
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:48,760
I'm going to change the kitty litter,
which I've been doing every week now, as
591
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,060
opposed to every other week.
592
00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:57,279
Why'd you shoot him?
593
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,520
No, seriously, be honest with me. What
led to that one? You know, I was just
594
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,280
trying to get him away from the door. I
mean, that's usually when I shoot him.
595
00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:10,140
Okay. If he can put all of that energy
into trying to get out of here, that
596
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:14,100
means that something's not happening in
the structured playtime that we're
597
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,700
trying to set for him. So that's
something that I still want to see some
598
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:21,900
done on. I feel like we've gotten a big
gorilla off our back right now. We don't
599
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,680
have to worry about eviction. That's
huge. We don't have to worry about
600
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,100
neighbors. That's huge.
601
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Now, you guys are going to have a baby.
602
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:30,760
And I know that you had concerns. Yeah.
603
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,380
And I've got some solutions to your
concerns. So if you just give me a
604
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,820
I'm going to go get them and I'll be
back. Cool.
605
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,440
Oh,
606
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,580
boy.
607
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,280
This is why I'm here, guys. When Jackson
walked in with the baby, it was a flood
608
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,038
of emotion.
609
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,600
I pretty much just froze.
610
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,840
It's all very real right now. Yeah,
well, it is.
611
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:56,900
Introducing a cat to a baby is not like
introducing a cat to another cat.
612
00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:01,460
Cats need to get used to a baby on every
level. That includes scent and sound.
613
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,920
So I have a friend who just had a baby.
So the fake baby that I'm bringing in
614
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,960
today has a little onesie that has all
kinds of scents all over it. So we can
615
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,820
get a head start and see how the cat can
get desensitized from the first day.
616
00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:16,620
Look at what we have here.
617
00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:19,820
What is that?
618
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,480
That swipe was inches away from the
baby's head. We got a big problem here.
619
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:32,680
I'm about to go in for my last visit
with Ned and Kelly.
620
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,920
The last time I was here, I set Ned and
Kelly up with a fake baby in a crib, and
621
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,660
at one point we put Max in the crib to
see how he'd be with the baby.
622
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:48,260
He got so worked up the last time, he
took a swipe at Ned an inch from the
623
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:49,260
baby's face.
624
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,140
It was really not the kind of result I
wanted to see at all.
625
00:37:53,530 --> 00:37:57,570
So I've set Ned and Kelly up with all
kinds of exercises based on acclimating
626
00:37:57,570 --> 00:38:01,290
Max to that baby. The video footage that
they sent in to me looks really
627
00:38:01,290 --> 00:38:02,290
promising.
628
00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:05,050
Max is eating his food right in front of
the baby.
629
00:38:05,770 --> 00:38:09,350
And I'm really excited but a little
nervous to see the end result. Come on
630
00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:11,230
I'm really hoping they work things out.
631
00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:14,850
All right, moment of truth. You guys
ready?
632
00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:16,410
Let's take a look.
633
00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:19,630
It's usually only in the bowl.
634
00:38:20,350 --> 00:38:23,310
In this one? Well, this one or that one.
He's done it in both. Well, that one's
635
00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:24,530
clear. Good.
636
00:38:27,410 --> 00:38:29,890
You're good. You got nothing. You got
nothing.
637
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:33,950
And this was happening on how regular
basis? Once a week.
638
00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:39,390
So your cat is not peeing in the sink
anymore because you're cleaning your
639
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:43,350
litter boxes. It really helped a lot.
Yeah. Because basically he was giving
640
00:38:43,350 --> 00:38:46,710
a very clear sign that that is not
acceptable to me.
641
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Good work, guys. Okay.
642
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,440
Good.
643
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,860
I've seen positive results with Ned and
Kelly, but they're not the only ones
644
00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:58,760
being affected by Max's bad behavior. So
I really wanted our neighbor Clarice to
645
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,860
come over to Ned and Kelly's house. Hey,
Clarice.
646
00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:06,120
Not as a complainer anymore, not as
somebody who is afraid of Max. I really
647
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,520
wanted her to come into contact with Max
on a positive basis.
648
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,820
When Jackson showed up with Clarice, she
hugged me right away, and it seems like
649
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:21,480
we're in a much better place.
650
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:23,820
My end of the balcony has been very
pleasant.
651
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:28,540
Okay. I want to actually go out to the
balcony. Great. Go ahead.
652
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,320
Oh, yeah.
653
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,300
This side rocks, too.
654
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,480
They made the patio finally into a
catio. He's got catnip growing on one
655
00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:43,540
There's grass for him to graze on. It is
now Max's world.
656
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:48,960
Isn't it nice to see him? He looks very
peaceful. Just for my peace of mind,
657
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,460
although I think it'll help you too, if
you could just give him a high. I will.
658
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,320
She likes getting pet on the head. Good
boy.
659
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,700
This is certainly a first.
660
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,340
Yeah. It was important for Clarice to
reset her relationship.
661
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,420
She had a negative relationship with him
before. Now she could start from
662
00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:11,140
scratch, and it was great.
663
00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:13,100
Thank you for resolving the problem.
664
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:19,680
Good work. Thank you. Right now I just
feel a big sense of relief knowing I'm
665
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,200
not going to have to go out there next
weekend and try and deter Max some other
666
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,520
way. So let's start talking about what
else we have here.
667
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,620
What I want to do is bring the crib back
over here and get Mr. Max and let's see
668
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:37,598
what happens.
669
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,200
I just want to see how accustomed he is
to it.
670
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,920
All right. Let's do it. So now this was
a huge moment. I wanted to put Max in
671
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,500
the crib with the baby and see how he
responded.
672
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,120
There he is.
673
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,020
What do you think, buddy?
674
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:06,040
Love it.
675
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:07,660
It's great.
676
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,660
This is one of those big moments that I
hope you're appreciating because this is
677
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:14,660
what I just saw.
678
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:21,000
I just saw a very territorial cat get
into a confined space with, as far as
679
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,460
concerned, a baby and actually give the
space over.
680
00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:30,090
To the baby. This time around, because
of the work that they've done, because
681
00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:34,490
the dedication they put into these
exercises, it was absolutely amazing.
682
00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:36,070
body language was completely relaxed.
683
00:41:36,350 --> 00:41:41,290
He could have sat there all day. It was
the kind of result that I live for. He
684
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:44,950
just formed a language with the baby in
that amount of time.
685
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,440
This, for me, is a humongous relief.
686
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,640
Just to be able to see it and how it's
actually playing out gives me a lot of
687
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,419
peace of mind.
688
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:56,060
There you go. That's the important
thing. Well, it was great. It was great
689
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:57,460
working with you. I think you guys are
wonderful.
690
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,460
It's definitely a weight off my
shoulders.
691
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:02,700
With Jackson's help, we've found a new
way to live.
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