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Having anger is not like having a normal
cat.
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Oh!
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Quinces are very inquisitive by nature.
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They're steady.
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Oh!
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She'll just come up out of nowhere and
just, you know, lash out.
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Scratch, bite, attack.
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Literally attack.
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Can you handle her?
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I want to be comfortable in my own home.
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I want her out.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats, one on one.
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Analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardian.
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When relationships are at an end.
Getting to the point where I feel
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And cat guardians have reached their
emotional limit. I want her out.
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I'm their last hope.
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You got scratched.
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It's because you've got him in a pretty
helpless position.
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Cats have nine lives, but humans only
have one. I can't believe this is the
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cat.
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I'm Sean Roach. And I'm Lindsay Roach.
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We've been together for actually about
10 years, but it wasn't until about two
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weeks ago that we became officially Mr.
and Mrs. Roach. After our previous cat,
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Sundari, passed away, I decided to make
a secret purchase, and I bought Avery. I
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had such a connection to my last cat,
Sundari, that when she passed, I was
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totally heartbroken.
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And when Avery came in, I think that
there was some resentment that I had
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towards her.
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I've worked with wildlife for 10 years
and, you know, am referred to as a
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wildlife expert.
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All in all, I have about 20 different
exotic...
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Mainly arthropods, so things that creep
and crawl. All of these animals are in
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what we affectionately call the animal
room. The animal room is also my office.
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So I spend a lot of time in there
working on the computer.
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And my old cat used to just sit on the
computer on my lap.
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No problem.
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She was interested in things, but she
wasn't going to take it to the level
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Avery does.
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She wants to get on top of the cages.
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That can be an issue because cages can
buckle. You have a screen top and the
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snake can get out. And, you know,
clearly I don't want snakes and
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scorpions out of their cages.
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Avery is like a toddler that you give in
a bowl full of sugar and five cups of
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coffee pretty much all the time.
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No, no, no, no.
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Avery! No, get back.
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I'm lucky and I get to leave the house
and go to work.
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The rest of the day, I get to watch the
cat, chase the cat, tell the cat no.
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Sometimes I see Avery and my anxiety
level just automatically rises.
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Throughout our house, we have a lot of
art.
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We have a lot of valuables. She risks
destroying them.
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we'll almost start fighting over avery
come on no you know i'll say like you
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don't have to get so mad she's just a
cat and then she's not just a cat and
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you know she's not just a cat she's uh
she's something else as
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newlyweds we really don't need the extra
tension or the stress that avery can
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sometimes bring i'm kind of hoping that
magic is real and that Jackson holds the
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key to some sort of ability to, you
know, wave a magic wand or cast some
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spell. Other than that, it's tough for
me to believe that he's going to be able
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to come in here and make the changes
that we want, but we're hopeful.
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Sometimes I find the problem I'm dealing
with is much more human than feline.
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But my job remains the same regardless,
to get human and cat on the same page.
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Hey there. Hey, how's it going?
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Great, man. Hey, Jackson.
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I'm Sean. Sean. Hi, I'm Lindsay. This is
Avery.
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Avery. What's up?
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When I first saw Jackson, I was excited
because he wasn't like an old cat guy
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like I was afraid of. Have a seat, my
friend.
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Okay.
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How are you guys?
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Great that you're here, man. We've been
very...
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anxiously waiting for your arrival. See
what you can do here. We got Avery about
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two years ago, and when we first got
her, you know, she was that kitten ball
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energy that you expect.
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She has not grown out of it. She's just
into everything.
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Avery is so true to the Sphinx breed
that I had barely sat down, and she was
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already climbing the walls.
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This is one of the things that she does.
Yeah, I mean, as a result of her being
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everywhere,
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Uh, she destroys things. These figurines
over here, they're all limited edition.
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These aren't regular toys that you see.
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Um, she chewed them up and it's a shame
because I wanted to display some of the
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art that we have around the house.
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Also, she runs out the door whenever
anybody opens it. My job here is to get
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on the same page as Avery. I need you to
understand the world the way Avery sees
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it. And once you do that, I think things
will be...
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Really workable. All right, guys, the
next thing I want to do is just take a
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tour of the territory. So if you can
take me around the house, that'd be
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Absolutely, yeah. Come on. Let's do it.
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I'm particularly eager to see the animal
room because not only is it Sean's
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workspace, but it's a room that Avery is
drawn to like a magnet.
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What do we got here?
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Oh, boy, we've got a lot.
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Starting here, we've got an African ball
python. If Avery was in here, she'll be
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trying to get into the cage. She does
try to get in. Yeah.
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If she could, she would.
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Yeah.
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So that's the thing. I'm always on
guard.
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This is Avery's buddy.
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Look, girl, it's your friend.
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Now, Avery.
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Get down, see how curious she is.
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Which is cool. I mean, I would be too.
But if I was a little cat, snake came
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down towards me, I'm not going to, you
know, try and.
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jump in the cage with them. I gotta tell
you, see, it's amazing because I know
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what you love to do. I know the snakes
are your thing. Yeah. And watching her
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zip into these guys and zoom in on them
as prey, it gives us a really
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heavy clue as to what makes her tick and
what's going to make her happy.
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Sphinxes are very inquisitive by nature.
They're constantly on the move,
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constantly looking for stimulation.
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Her fascination with the animals in
Sean's room is inherent to who she is.
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This is just a great example of Avery
just... She's into everything.
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Everything's hers, you know? We're in
her house, not the other way around.
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here, girl. Her curiosity definitely
pushes her to a level to where I get
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uncomfortable when I turn around and I
see her on top of something.
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You know, the potential of knocking
something over. And the concern, more
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anything, is just her...
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getting into something to where that
animal escaped.
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I just wish that she knew her
boundaries.
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Sean makes it a point of saying that
those animals are off limits to Avery,
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he's sort of teasing her with a no
without giving her a yes right behind
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that's just not working.
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Gotta show you a truly amazing arachnid.
Honey, will you kind of keep an eye on
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that little rascal there?
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This is...
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Called a cave spider.
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I have these little huts here that I
built. You know, that's kind of
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the caves and the nooks and crannies
that they'd be, you know, squeezing into
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their natural environment. Oh, great
idea, yeah.
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I seriously can't believe that Sean
knows how to meet the needs of an exotic
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spider, yet he has no idea how to meet
the needs of his exotic cat.
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There's Avery on top of a cage.
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Turn our back and what happens?
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Avery jumps up.
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Oh! That's just embarrassing.
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Avery!
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Jackson got the perfect visual of how
she is, generally speaking. I don't
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Avery knows what it means to be on good
behavior.
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So let me tell you what I'm seeing.
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There's obviously a problem.
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It's not Avery's problem.
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It's what you guys have and don't have
in here that's causing the problem.
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Avery doesn't have a natural habitat.
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The typical Sphinx is incredibly active.
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So actually, Avery's pretty normal for a
Sphinx.
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They're high -energy cats, and they need
outlets that satisfy the breed.
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One of the things that I'm not seeing
here is any place for her to perch, any
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place for her to get some vertical
distance from the floor and do it
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comfortably. She's not just climbing
blinds to climb blinds.
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She's trying to see the world outside.
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I want to start seeing ways for her to
get up on sills and things like that.
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know, one of the things I want you to
take a critical eye to is that you have
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one piece of cat furniture in the whole
house.
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Again, comparing and contrasting old cat
to new cat might sound crazy, but this
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setup is pretty much how it's been more
or less for the past six years of living
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here. Four of those years were with our
old cat, and she seemed to be fine.
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The Sphinx needs spaces to climb and
explore.
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Sean's old cat was not a Sphinx. Avery
is.
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He needs to stop drawing comparisons
between these two cats in terms of their
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behaviors and concentrate on the cat
he's got right now.
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The next thing we're going to do is more
fun. Good.
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This is the fun part. Yay!
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The toy that I think I'd like to play
with is this very toy right here. This
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replicates, obviously, Ground Prey. This
is a mouse.
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Okay. Okay, and with a little tail and
all that.
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Okay, so, obviously,
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she's dying for something like this,
right?
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And you see that in your animal room,
too, right? Sure, yeah.
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So this is the kind of activity that I
am really going to want to draw out of
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her.
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Toys are a great way to stimulate the
prey drive of any sphinx. In the
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it's a sneaky way to lead them towards
the places you want them to be and away
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from the places you don't want them to
be. And if you make this world sort of a
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playground, again, the need to escape
will be less.
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Toy, which is our laser pointer.
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See how she's responding to that?
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That is the toy that you use when she's
starting to do something you don't want
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her to do. Anyone can use a laser
pointer to guide a cat where they want
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go. It can be used to guide Avery away
from the door, which will make Lindsay
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and Sean's comings and goings a whole
lot easier.
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Where are you?
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Can you see this?
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There we go.
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What is that? There we go.
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What is that?
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Yeah, she would have bolted out by now.
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This is now yours.
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Yay! So, again, coming in the door, and
that is all she needs. I think that
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Jackson is telling us things that we
wouldn't have thought of by ourselves.
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For Sean and Lindsay's homework, I'm
having them work with the laser pointer
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the front door, put up shelving units
and a cat tower in the living room, and
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keep the animal room off limits. Because
if Avery gets in there unsupervised...
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All hell could break loose again.
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Last week, I left Sean and Lindsay with
a list of homework and a video camera so
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they could document their progress for
me and I could see what was going on
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I wasn't there.
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They emailed me the videos, and I'm
eager to talk to them about what I saw.
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Hey, how you doing?
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Hey, pumpkin pie.
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How have things been?
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Oh, they've been eventful as always.
Yeah, they've been good. The first thing
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want to talk to you guys about is the
exercise that you were doing at the door
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with her. What it comes down to really
is the concept of commitment to your
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actions. I need Lindsay to see how she's
exiting and entering the room the wrong
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way and how Sean's actually doing it the
right way.
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So the first thing I'm going to do is
I'm going to do Lindsay walking in the
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door. How embarrassing.
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Yep. Okay. You got it, yeah. That's
Lindsay walking in the door. Now I'm
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to do Sean walking in the door.
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Okay.
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You see the difference? Yeah. Okay, now
the difference is he was aware, but he
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was committing to the action.
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You're moving from fear, he's moving
from confidence. That's the only
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difference. All right, this wonderful
cat tree that you guys bought.
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I commend you on it. Thank you. Yeah,
we're pretty happy with it. She's pretty
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happy with it, which is more important.
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You know, Sean, I saw in home video, you
showed her how to use it, and boom,
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boom, boom, she was up.
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It's a lot of fun just, you know, when
she first jumped up on, we were both
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like, yeah.
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So here's the thing. I mean, we're
creating this world of vertical space
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also to play into the fact that she's a
sphinx. I really want her to jump from
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here to the balance.
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confidently. We can move this back
eventually, but I think what I'd really
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to do is reposition this.
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Now, she can go hoppity hop here, here.
It's almost like walking. I mean, look,
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she's naturally so curious.
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Ta -da!
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Good girl. You see how she's got that
look on her face like, cool, where's the
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pot of gold at the end of this rainbow
here, you know?
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Giving us things like Avery.
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room to vertically explore is key
because her breed dictates that she has
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way to release energy.
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Now that leads me to my next point. I
did want you to put toys up here,
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something like that. Yeah. So right now
she jumps up. She's like, now what?
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Right. We're going to come down here
again. I don't have a piece of flea size
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something like that. Okay. Destination.
The last piece of the puzzle right here.
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Yeah. I asked you to put a shelf here. I
really do want to still see it so that
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she can go jump, boink, here she is.
Cool. If she's up at a level, I don't
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she's going to scoot out the door.
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That's a real necessary addition.
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Okay, cool. Yeah, a couple zips on the
table saw and cut it out and boom, boom,
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done. One of the great things about
seeing a sphinx like Avery fully engaged
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you get to see what their nature is as a
cat, any cat.
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very especially the thing they work like
this i wake up i want to kill
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something i want to hunt it down i want
to mangle it then i want to eat
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something and then i i'll sleep for a
little while what we're going to do is
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give her that kill time okay this bird
look at that as tired as she was She's
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again. Yeah, that's a cool toy. Check
that out. Now, first what we're going to
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do is we're going to establish that we
are in the air. Now, if you guys listen,
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that flapping wing sound will get her
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into it. Sometimes she loses it, and
then you have to present it.
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Play for cats is not all about the
action.
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It's about the preparation.
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When they're focused in on something,
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That's just equal. This part right here.
Yeah.
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The subtle tease.
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That's just as big a part as this. Yeah.
The running.
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The jumping. The way Avery should look
after a proper play session is what we
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saw on her side.
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I really want to keep playing, but my
body won't let me. And that's where we
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want her. That is going to allow us to
reset her body clock and regulate her
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energy.
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So getting Avery to go.
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onto places and get into things isn't
too much of an issue. Keeping her off of
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things, that is a problem. And then I
have this area here that's been pretty
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consistently a problem.
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This is my suggestion for you. You value
these toys a lot. I know that.
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So we have to repurpose this cabinet so
that you have things, like maybe you
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have a loose side front to this, put
some hinges on it, something where you
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display them the way you want to display
them. You want them to be out. At the
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same time, you want them protected. Now
that I've shown Sean and Lindsay the
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possibilities of what can be done in the
living room in terms of vertical space,
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play with vertical space, territorial
confidence.
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Now I feel like I can bring that into
the animal room and show them that they
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can do sort of the same thing and have
Sean be confident with that.
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Now we're going to take this room and
she's like, I'm in.
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Somebody make sure to keep an eye on her
at all times. I want you to relax. I
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want you to be okay with her being
around.
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Sean has to see the beauty in allowing
Avery into the animal room. He needs to
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know that providing her with cat TV is
an amazing way to drain off that natural
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Sphinx energy.
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I want to give her appropriate perches.
So here we have an inappropriate perch
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because this inappropriate perch lead to
up there. Yeah. So what I would like to
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do is perhaps have something that is
further out. I mean, I've worked many
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with things called cat windowsills.
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So it comes off the fill, but it's dirty
and it's far enough away and it'll hang
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lower than the fill that there's no way
she could jump. I really do have a lot
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of respect and admiration for what Sean
does as a profession.
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And the care that he shows for the
animals in his care, the environmental
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enrichment, I just want to see that
light come on in his eyes where he shows
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that same consideration to Avery's
environment.
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Because if not, Avery will not get
better.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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How fast can a domestic cat run?
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15 miles per hour, 30 miles per hour, or
45 miles per hour? Find out after the
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break.
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How fast can a domestic cat run?
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They can run up to 30 miles per hour.
The fastest human sprinter can only run
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miles per hour.
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Sean and Lindsay are beginning to see
that Avery's not a bad cat.
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She's just a sphinx who wasn't provided
with a proper environment.
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Their home is becoming a place where she
can thrive.
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And with Sean letting her into the
animal room, he's finally embracing
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letting go of the past.
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The room is symbolic in a way. Do you
know what I mean? And by bringing her in
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there. and saying, be with me here.
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It's a huge thing.
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Let's have fun. Huge step.
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I love that, and I miss that, you know,
with Sundari. You coming here has really
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given us the opportunity to talk about
that, talk about Sundari and that loss,
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which will honestly forever, until the
day that I die, I will love and I will
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miss that cat. Of course.
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You know, she's a part of my heart.
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So emotional. I mean, still, two years.
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And that cat, that's part of having a
pet. You lose them, it's tough.
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It's part of the deal, right. But we've
been able to talk about that, how that
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was hard.
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And how those resentments were there.
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Right. This is really an important
revelation for Sean.
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He needs to experience this grief, to
move through it, so that he can finally
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have a relationship with the cat that's
right in front of him.
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I'm a little sensitive when it comes to
my animals and my pets, you know.
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Today I get to find out whether Sean has
actually embraced everything that Avery
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is, which is a young, active thing.
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Hey.
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Hey, guys. How's it going? Good. How are
you doing? Good. Good, good.
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Today I'm walking into a veritable
sphinx paradise.
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There are all kinds of places for her to
climb and explore and survey her
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domain. Come here, girl. Oh, wow, I
didn't even notice that shelf over
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Come here.
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Let's show Jackson what we've been up
to.
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Come on.
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Oh, come here. One more.
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Oh, righteous. One more. Oh, righteous.
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Very close. Oh, righteous.
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Oh, she wants to kill me. Yeah.
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There's a lot of, uh...
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A lot of new stuff going on, huh? Here's
her new favorite little spot.
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The addition of the door shelf is a way
to keep Avery up and still looking out
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the door without being on the ground,
which actually encourages her to run
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out. Now I walk out the door.
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Now I walk out the door, and you look at
the neighborhood.
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Yeah, what are you going to do?
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Absolutely nothing. It is really
gratifying to see how successful Sean
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Lindsay have been in transforming their
home into a Sphinx -friendly
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environment. I had this blanket, the
most comfortable, wonderful blanket in
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world. I would wrap myself up in it
every winter.
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My God, did you donate the blanket to
the cause? Yeah. I cut up the blanket.
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I realized it was like meant to be. The
size was perfect, and it
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actually had two pieces.
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So when I cut it... This is rocking.
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When I cut the blanket, it was like a
pocket. So I tucked it all back behind
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here. And then I used those and put
this. I don't know if you remember.
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Oh, yeah. This was just wood. So now
this is really soft.
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She's familiar with it, the smell, the
feel. Does she hang here? She totally.
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This is her, like, she's all about it up
here. I covered it up. Everyone can see
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his toys. Yep. You guys have done an
absolutely amazing job. You've embraced
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this. So well.
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Now, speaking of the embracing part, I
want to see the animal room. Yeah, let's
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check it out.
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Oh, and here she comes.
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Yep, she lets you know wherever she is.
Cool.
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Move some things around.
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Let's go into her new favorite spot.
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And she'll just kind of sit there.
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One thing I really miss, not to harp on
my old kitty too much again, but was the
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time that I got to spend with her while
I was doing my work, having my buddy
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around. There you go.
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Now I've got Avery around.
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What's funny is before when I was
distracted by Avery because I was afraid
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her getting into something or causing
some sort of problem. Now I'm distracted
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by her because she's so much fun to
watch. The interactions.
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And you can see all of her expressions,
you know. The ears go back, her face.
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pushes up, her eyes get big, and she is
so engaged.
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With the issues addressed and the
behavior under control, Sean is in that
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position of just being able to watch
Avery and enjoy her being a sphinx. I
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like, you know, things have gotten a lot
better.
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There's not the tension in the air when
I get home.
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Sean's in a good mood, which makes me in
a good mood. Avery seems really happy.
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And so now, instead of driving us crazy,
she's actually entertaining us. She's
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fun to watch.
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She'll just come up out of nowhere and
just attack.
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Literally attack.
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The concept is fairy dust doesn't exist.
There's work involved.
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I want her out.
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She's about to go nuts.
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Crazy, Fifi.
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You're crazy.
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I'm Dave.
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And I'm Leslie.
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And we've been dating for about nine
months. Nine months, yeah.
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I just moved from San Francisco. I
uprooted my life that I love to come to
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and live with Dave and take our
relationship further.
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It was quite a surprise to know that
Fifi was going to be living with us.
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Fifi actually was my old roommate
Alvina's cat, and we lived in this condo
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the ninth floor.
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Fifi liked to sit out on the balcony on
the railing, and twice she
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fell off the balcony.
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Alvina was at her wit's end. She had to
get rid of Fifi, and I was moving in
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with Leslie, so I decided I would take
Fifi.
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It's been a complete nightmare, just in
terms of my allergies.
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I'm constantly taking allergy medication
and it makes me sleepy. It's just
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total. I'm not like in my right head.
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And I'll be just sitting at my desk,
minding my own business. And she'll just
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come up out of nowhere and just, you
know, lash out, scratch, bite, jump in
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lap, attack, literally attack.
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I have.
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I have cat scratches all over me. It's
been a huge hassle for me.
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I do feel betrayed by Fifi because I
saved her life. I took her in.
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And instead of behaving and showing
appreciation, she attacks me. She stalks
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Leslie.
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She doesn't just swat at you. She goes
in for the kill. And that's when you're
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trying to pet her and be nice to her.
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I think that despite Leslie's allergies,
that if Fifi was a nice cat, Leslie
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could live with her, and it's just the
fact that it's the behavior that's
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bothering Leslie.
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I want to be comfortable in my own home.
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I want her out.
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With each new case, I always remind
myself that part of my job is to help
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guardians recognize where their own
actions feed into feline bad behaviors.
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Jackson. Hi. Hi, I'm Leslie.
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Hey, Leslie. Nice to meet you.
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Good to meet you.
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Hey there.
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So tell me about Fifi. Fifi attacks
everybody.
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Attacks everybody. She will attack. She
scratches people.
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She'll do this thing where she'll come
up to you and sort of nuzzle against
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leg like she's going to be nice, and
then she'll bite you. Can you handle
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Can you pick her up? I know how to pick
her up, like, to keep her from
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scratching me. You pick her up like
this. You're saying, yeah, she's like,
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no, no. No, no, no, he can't. You can't
handle her. I just know you pick her up
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like it's an explosive device and you
kind of hold it out here.
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Because if I get her anywhere around
here, she, like, digs her back claws
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me. I turn her.
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I mean, she has a reach and she'll
scratch. So it goes without saying that
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you've never clipped her claws.
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Oh, no.
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I've tried to do that. That's
impossible.
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Okay, so claws not clipped. Well, then,
of course, you're going to wind up
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getting mangled.
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For me, I've always been allergic to
cats. Having a cat around,
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I'm already kind of guarded because I'm
like, oh, I'm going to get allergic.
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Let's talk about the allergies.
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Throat closing or sneezing eyes.
449
00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:21,650
Throat closing, eyes, sneezing, itchy
nose, runny nose.
450
00:28:21,910 --> 00:28:25,370
A few people come up, and she'll kind of
rub up against my ankle.
451
00:28:26,270 --> 00:28:31,910
And my original reaction for her not to
be here, because I work from home a lot,
452
00:28:31,930 --> 00:28:33,950
and it's getting to me.
453
00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:39,010
I'm going to work on an assumption here,
which might be dangerous, but if we
454
00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:44,130
work with your approach to her, you'll
see that completely mellow out. The
455
00:28:44,130 --> 00:28:46,450
concept is the fairy dust doesn't exist.
456
00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:48,070
There's work involved.
457
00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:52,250
What I want to try to do as I'm working
with the cat is also work with you
458
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:54,510
because I think expectations have to be
adjusted.
459
00:28:54,730 --> 00:28:57,770
I want to be sensitive to the fact that
you can't breathe.
460
00:28:58,030 --> 00:29:00,950
You know, I mean, that's the aggression
is something completely different. We
461
00:29:00,950 --> 00:29:05,130
can work with that. The breathing is
something that we can try to address.
462
00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:07,490
want you to know I know how not fun it
is.
463
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:12,870
But I'd also like Leslie to be able to
see what.
464
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
is special about Fifi. What I see that's
special.
465
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:20,900
I'm relieved to hear that at least Dave
is invested in Fifi. Now, once we get
466
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:24,360
past Leslie's allergies, I'm hoping
she'll be as committed as he is.
467
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,480
First thing I want to see, though, is
the two of them interact with Fifi so I
468
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,120
can see exactly what they're doing
wrong.
469
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,160
Okay, let's go out here.
470
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,460
Fifi, don't attack.
471
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,520
Normally... I have to be honest, I grab
Fifi and I just love her so much, I just
472
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,880
squeeze her and I play with her head
like that.
473
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,540
And then she turns around and gets a
little bit irritated at me. I thought
474
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:57,720
of the funniest things was watching Dave
show me how he plays with Fifi, which
475
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,540
really came down to you're a black lab,
not a cat.
476
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:06,860
My scent is pretty heavy on the glasses,
so I usually try to present it to them.
477
00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:10,480
You see what she's doing right now? I'm
presenting neutrality.
478
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,660
I'm not attempting anything.
479
00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:18,100
Look, I'm no different from anybody
else. When I first meet a cat, I want to
480
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:22,300
them. But what I really have to do is
let the cat come and pet me.
481
00:30:22,780 --> 00:30:27,200
She needs to show me what feels good,
and then we can establish a relationship
482
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,920
from there. Good girl.
483
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:31,940
Good girl, pumpkin.
484
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,720
Yes.
485
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,960
I know, you dig that.
486
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:39,180
Yes, exactly.
487
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,660
Exactly right. That is love.
488
00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:44,780
That's how she expresses love to you.
489
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,100
All the rest of it is going to get you
hurt.
490
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:54,040
It was amazing to see Jackson's energy
sort of redirect Fifi and sort of keep
491
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,720
her rage from exploding like it normally
does.
492
00:30:56,940 --> 00:31:00,780
Here's what I really want to do with
you. I want to work on how you perceive
493
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:01,820
her, okay?
494
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,820
I'm really glad that you're...
495
00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:07,910
A yoga instructor, because we can
approach this from your place.
496
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:11,250
So I'd like to do that. I'm a complete
yoga novice.
497
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:14,450
Okay. And I'm coming into your class for
the first time.
498
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:16,250
How do I start?
499
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:19,330
You know, just let it go.
500
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:20,590
Let it all go.
501
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:25,430
When you say let it go, what are you
talking about? Let what go? What am I
502
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:26,129
letting go?
503
00:31:26,130 --> 00:31:28,330
Everything. Just all your thoughts.
504
00:31:29,290 --> 00:31:30,290
Blowing it down.
505
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:33,650
Slow down as much as you can.
506
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:41,510
Anything that you're holding on to that
is making you clench your body, tighten
507
00:31:41,510 --> 00:31:42,510
your body.
508
00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:43,730
Can I just say what I just noticed?
509
00:31:44,150 --> 00:31:45,150
What did you notice?
510
00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:52,690
She was here, and you were oblivious.
The tools
511
00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:56,470
that you bring from yoga are the tools
that you're going to bring to Fifi.
512
00:31:56,770 --> 00:31:58,470
I think it kind of works.
513
00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:03,110
in a very interesting place because your
desire and your ability to accept
514
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:05,750
physical affection from her right now
are pretty limited because of the
515
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:09,150
allergies and the fear that you bring a
little bit. Leslie really needs to
516
00:32:09,150 --> 00:32:13,970
understand and also internalize that she
has to approach the cat the way she
517
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:20,270
approaches her practice of yoga in a
centered, relaxed, grounded way.
518
00:32:20,670 --> 00:32:25,030
You know, one thing that we haven't
spoken about at all is the fact that she
519
00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:27,650
loved being out on that balcony. Oh, she
loves it. Yeah.
520
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,820
Cats are either tree dwellers, meaning
they like to be up on things, surveying
521
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:37,340
the domain, or they're bush dwellers.
They like to be down low with all four
522
00:32:37,340 --> 00:32:41,300
feet touching the ground at all times.
Hearing that Fifi used to like to perch
523
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:46,620
on the very edge of Dave's balcony tells
me straight up that she is a tree
524
00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:52,560
dweller. I want Dave and Leslie to
construct an enclosed patio area, a
525
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,580
that Fifi has a safe...
526
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,260
place to get up on things, be the tree
dweller that she is, live the life she's
527
00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:00,260
supposed to live.
528
00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:06,240
Okay, I mean, we don't have a lot of
space out to work with, so really it's
529
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,380
about a little bit of shelving, a little
bit of ways that she can hop up.
530
00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:13,990
Sea over. We got birds in the trees. We
got some squirrels on the ground.
531
00:33:14,550 --> 00:33:15,850
You know, that kind of thing. Sure.
532
00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:18,650
We're going to give her some places to
graze out there.
533
00:33:18,970 --> 00:33:23,170
And really, it would be an amazing place
not only for her to hang out, but for
534
00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:26,850
you to be able to breathe a little bit
better. I totally see where Jackson is
535
00:33:26,850 --> 00:33:30,570
coming from. I definitely want to apply
what he said and see what happens. So
536
00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:34,710
that's kind of where I'm at right now.
My action plan for Dave and Leslie is,
537
00:33:34,990 --> 00:33:36,670
first, build that catio.
538
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,560
Give Fifi a safe and elevated place to
own.
539
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:42,320
Secondly, address Leslie's allergies.
540
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,780
Bathe and brush Fifi regularly and get
an air filter.
541
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,340
Lastly, Dave and Leslie have to start
taking a long, hard look at their own
542
00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:52,780
energy that they bring to this cat.
543
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:55,060
Dave's got to stop roughhousing with
her.
544
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:59,640
Leslie has got to drop all the stress
and tension that she brings to this cat
545
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,640
every time she sees her.
546
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,780
Last week, I left Dave and Leslie with a
list of homework, as well as a video
547
00:34:10,780 --> 00:34:14,460
camera, so they could document their
progress for me. They emailed me some
548
00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:18,080
footage, and I saw some good things, and
I saw some not so good things, but I'm
549
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,639
really eager to talk to them about
everything.
550
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,060
Hey, Jack. How are you? Good seeing you.
Good. How are you? Good. Come on in.
551
00:34:30,659 --> 00:34:32,060
So, how are you guys?
552
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:34,340
Great. Yeah? Yeah.
553
00:34:35,050 --> 00:34:36,070
Good. We're better.
554
00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:37,690
We're definitely better.
555
00:34:38,330 --> 00:34:39,610
Optimistic? Cautiously optimistic.
556
00:34:40,090 --> 00:34:40,788
That's fine.
557
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:46,230
That's fine. I feel better around her.
Great. And I think she's feeling a
558
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:47,230
better around me.
559
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:52,850
I just want to note what just happened.
She walked by here a second ago, and as
560
00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:56,070
compared to the last time I was here,
you didn't do the leg twitch.
561
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:57,690
I think Fifi...
562
00:34:58,270 --> 00:35:02,510
has seen that Leslie's put a lot of
effort into things this week. We took
563
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:07,490
together jointly to get her nails
clipped. I think since we've gotten her
564
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:11,990
clipped that I feel a little bit less
scared. Right. Just being around her
565
00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:15,030
okay, it's not going to hurt as bad. So
when she has scratched me, it hasn't
566
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:18,470
been nearly what it was. Yeah, exactly.
567
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:21,890
What about at the groomer, were you able
to bathe her too?
568
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:25,850
We bathed her ourselves. We actually
attempted it ourselves.
569
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,660
We are about to attempt to give Bebe the
bath.
570
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:35,620
As you can see, we lit some candles and
incense.
571
00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:42,920
We tried to set the mood for last Bebe,
so hopefully it'll
572
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,840
work out. It's actually not that bad.
573
00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:50,000
Yeah, she looks like she's getting into
it.
574
00:35:56,490 --> 00:35:59,590
I love it. No, seriously, I do love it.
I mean, that's fantastic.
575
00:35:59,930 --> 00:36:04,930
So the next thing I want to get to is
the handling. What you wind up doing is
576
00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:11,210
you start going from play to
roughhousing to
577
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:16,950
food. It's like trying to eat breakfast
and brush your teeth at the same time.
578
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:20,630
If you're going to commit to play, you
commit to play. If you're going to
579
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:21,529
to rest.
580
00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:22,530
You commit to rest.
581
00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:25,950
You know, I really need to see Dave play
with Fifi again because I really need
582
00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:28,070
to point out exactly what he's doing
wrong.
583
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:32,970
Like, just grab her and play with her
and just kind of throw her around.
584
00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:37,610
And then she'll, like, try to bite me
back. And I go, no, you can't bite me.
585
00:36:37,870 --> 00:36:38,910
You can't bite me.
586
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:40,950
Yeah, you like that?
587
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:42,150
You like that?
588
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:43,330
And then...
589
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:48,470
I know my cat, and I swear she likes
that. What Dave is doing wrong by
590
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:52,930
roughhousing with Fifi, he's showing her
that arms and feet are appropriate
591
00:36:52,930 --> 00:36:56,350
toys, so of course she's going to play
with them at every chance she gets.
592
00:36:56,590 --> 00:37:00,750
The catio is another important outlet
for Fifi, but right now it's just a
593
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:01,770
screened -in porch.
594
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:07,230
I need to show Dave and Leslie how
exactly to make a catio out of this.
595
00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:10,990
would like to do, I want to try
something different. I want to take this
596
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:12,870
and I'd like to put it out on the catio.
597
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Any patio can be a catio, but without
enough places to perch and explore, it's
598
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,660
just a big cage.
599
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:23,120
Uh -oh. We have chair.
600
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,680
We have semi -lift -off.
601
00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:33,160
Most people think that cats sleep all
day, which is just a fallacy. What they
602
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,040
all day is what she's doing right now.
603
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040
Now this is where she's going to hang.
604
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,340
She's grooving right now. She is. Look,
she's up. She's poppy up there.
605
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,320
This is where she's going to find her
peace.
606
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,680
We are so lucky. You guys are so lucky.
As soon as levels were present for her,
607
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,380
the scratcher in that chair, she was up.
She was looking outside.
608
00:37:55,740 --> 00:38:02,200
The world was open and inviting, and it
became Cat TV immediately.
609
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,660
I'm seeing these little small steps
with...
610
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:09,850
Fifi with Leslie and Fifi that are
really giving me hope to kind of make
611
00:38:09,850 --> 00:38:13,970
want to keep Fifi and that she's going
to be a part of our lives forever.
612
00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:19,130
Look, I'm not saying that I'm completely
willing to just let Fifi, you know,
613
00:38:19,150 --> 00:38:25,550
into our lives. But I will say this,
that her behavior has kind of changed my
614
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:26,610
perspective on things.
615
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:29,030
And, you know, we'll see what happens.
616
00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:38,930
What I'm really hoping to find today is
a better behaved Fifi, obviously, but
617
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:44,870
also Leslie having embraced Fifi's
behavior and her personality, and Dave
618
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:49,130
able to relax that he's not going to
have to choose between his girlfriend
619
00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:49,848
his cat.
620
00:38:49,850 --> 00:38:50,850
Come on in. Great.
621
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:55,390
Hey, Dave. Hey, Jackson. How are you?
Great to see you, man. Great to see you.
622
00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:56,790
Come on in.
623
00:38:56,970 --> 00:38:58,950
I have something to show you over here.
Amazing.
624
00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:00,290
This is amazing.
625
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:05,170
Fifi Fantasy Forest. This is
outstanding.
626
00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:06,870
This is amazing.
627
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:11,700
And look, it even has a little bird. It
has a little bird there for Fifi's
628
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,700
predatory instincts.
629
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,640
I put Dave out there sometimes.
630
00:39:16,060 --> 00:39:19,780
It's absolutely amazing. I love what
you've done having some cat grass down
631
00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:20,780
there for her to graze on.
632
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,800
I'm really happy. I mean, you guys
followed through. You listened.
633
00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:28,920
And Fifi loves it. She spends a lot of
time out there, which is nice.
634
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:30,300
For you.
635
00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:31,840
Yeah, no, it's great.
636
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:35,040
Fifi's out there. And it's a little bit
more airy. You know, we keep the door
637
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,660
open and she comes in and out when she
pleases. And look at this.
638
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:41,860
Fifi has been giving Leslie love.
639
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,460
In that moment where Fifi walked up and
she pet Leslie, that shows confidence,
640
00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:53,160
it shows comfort, it shows ownership of
territory, which Leslie's a part of. And
641
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Leslie went along with it. It was really
nice to watch.
642
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,780
We got her these little, well, I bought
her these little mice so she can stalk
643
00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:01,538
the mice.
644
00:40:01,540 --> 00:40:04,940
You bought her toys. I bought her toys.
I bought her treats.
645
00:40:05,740 --> 00:40:07,880
Things are so much easier here now with
her.
646
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,420
Allergies are, I would say, at least
like 85 % better.
647
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,060
The air filter has helped immensely as
well. I think just for Dave and I, I
648
00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:21,500
mean, the way we're kind of interacting
now and addressing some difficult
649
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:25,040
situations that... Before, we'd kind of
brush under the rug because we didn't
650
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,019
want to stir the pot.
651
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:28,280
And now we're kind of like, okay, we
have a problem.
652
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:32,680
Let's talk about it. Let's compromise,
which I think that's been the biggest
653
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,680
thing is compromise.
654
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:40,100
And, you know, the thing is that really
most of the time there's a relational
655
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:43,280
problem underlying the furry problem.
656
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:47,140
All right, guys, I'm absolutely loving
what I'm hearing from you right now.
657
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:50,700
I'd love to see a little bit more
interaction.
658
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,120
Aw. Good girl.
659
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,120
What used to happen was when we were
sitting on the couch, Fifi would kind of
660
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,640
climb up under the couch and swat at
Leslie's ankles, scratch us just out of
661
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,900
nowhere, come up behind us on the back
and scratch us in the head. And that
662
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:11,740
doesn't happen anymore. Here, jump up
here.
663
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,400
A little treat for you.
664
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,880
Look at how natural she is up there. Mm
-hmm.
665
00:41:17,380 --> 00:41:18,380
Come on.
666
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,220
Does she spend much time just sort of
looking at the world right now? Yeah,
667
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:26,300
loves to get out there and look around
at the world and see what's out there,
668
00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:27,960
and then I kind of lead her down through
here.
669
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,680
See, see. Hey, look.
670
00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:35,880
I love the way that you've learned, the
way that you lead her to things. The
671
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,140
knowledge of your cat right now is
really kind of, it makes me proud.
672
00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:46,760
Well, you really taught that I need to
respect her and her wishes and not force
673
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her to do things. Right.
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Fifi's a really independent cat, so
she's going to do what she wants to do,
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I've noticed that her anxiety levels
come way down. And she can relax when
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in the room, which we didn't see before.
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I'm really grateful to Jackson because,
one, he helped solve an issue we were
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having that was causing a lot of
tension.
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And also, Fifi's much happier.
680
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,820
And just to see her on her cat perch
looking down, it's almost like she's a
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of the household and she's there
protecting us.
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rather than she's the predator.
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00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:26,160
When I first met Fifi, she was
scratching and biting Dave and Leslie,
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terrorizing them in their own home.
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00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,300
Now she has this great new relationship
with Leslie. She doesn't lash out
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00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:37,120
unpredictably anymore, and she seems to
have found her place in the world.
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Instead of swiping at your ankles, she
is up in her catio looking at the world.
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It's so amazing to see.
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