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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,487 --> 00:00:20,988 Have you ever had a kind of dream 2 00:00:21,021 --> 00:00:22,456 where you're so awake in the dream, 3 00:00:22,490 --> 00:00:24,401 you're not sure if you're really awake or asleep? 4 00:00:24,425 --> 00:00:26,294 You ever had that kind of dream? 5 00:00:47,081 --> 00:00:48,282 I once had a dream 6 00:00:48,316 --> 00:00:52,086 where this weird creature walked through the wall 7 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,655 and says, "quick, who wrote the famous novel by Herman Melville", 8 00:00:54,688 --> 00:00:56,124 and what was the author's name?" 9 00:00:56,157 --> 00:00:57,458 And I go, "ooh, don't tell me." 10 00:00:57,491 --> 00:01:00,394 I know; It's on the tip of my tongue." 11 00:01:00,428 --> 00:01:01,705 I don't know where it came from, 12 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:05,333 but it's such a complicated answer. 13 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:18,179 Associated Press, this is Nicole. 14 00:01:18,212 --> 00:01:19,413 Is Matt there? 15 00:01:19,447 --> 00:01:21,515 Matt Slagle, Matt Otero, or Matt Curry? 16 00:01:21,549 --> 00:01:22,716 Oh, it's for Matt Slagle. 17 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:23,917 Okay, just a second. 18 00:01:23,951 --> 00:01:25,453 Thank you. 19 00:01:25,486 --> 00:01:27,355 When you have finished recording, 20 00:01:27,388 --> 00:01:29,457 you may hang up or press one for more options. 21 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:30,858 Beep! 22 00:01:30,891 --> 00:01:33,861 So, Matt, this is Walter Day calling back from Twin Galaxies 23 00:01:33,894 --> 00:01:36,530 about the Pac-man 25th anniversary story. 24 00:01:36,564 --> 00:01:39,900 In 1981, the arcade scene was very big. 25 00:02:02,190 --> 00:02:05,893 Twin Galaxies opened up on November 10, 1981. 26 00:02:05,926 --> 00:02:08,362 It was an absolute magical place. 27 00:02:08,396 --> 00:02:09,730 It seemed to be so free of worries 28 00:02:09,763 --> 00:02:12,032 and just so full of happiness and excitement. 29 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:14,602 We've gained a lot of notoriety and the reputation 30 00:02:14,635 --> 00:02:16,937 for being the video gaming capital of the world. 31 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:19,540 We used to refer to it as the dodge city of video games, 32 00:02:19,573 --> 00:02:20,641 because that's the place 33 00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:22,576 where all the fast guns would congregate. 34 00:02:22,610 --> 00:02:23,811 We had all the classics. 35 00:02:23,844 --> 00:02:24,912 We had Wizard of Wor... 36 00:02:24,945 --> 00:02:26,447 Donkey Kong, Missile Command, 37 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,349 Space Invaders, Tempest, 38 00:02:28,382 --> 00:02:29,817 Gorf, Asteroids, 39 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:31,785 TRON, Joust, 40 00:02:31,819 --> 00:02:33,287 Burgertime, Pac-man, 41 00:02:33,321 --> 00:02:34,755 Centipede, Berzerk, 42 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:36,457 Dragon's Lair, Star Wars, 43 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:37,791 Frogger, Galaga, 44 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:38,926 Robotron, 45 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:40,194 Eagle? 46 00:02:40,228 --> 00:02:41,429 Something like Eagle. 47 00:02:41,462 --> 00:02:43,297 There were several games that sucked. 48 00:02:43,331 --> 00:02:44,998 I could spot an arcade a mile away. 49 00:02:45,032 --> 00:02:47,167 Before I could drive, I was walking to the arcade. 50 00:02:47,201 --> 00:02:49,069 It was sort of like my second home in a way. 51 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:50,538 You didn't know what to expect. 52 00:02:50,571 --> 00:02:52,249 You'd walk in, and there was always a chance 53 00:02:52,273 --> 00:02:53,807 there would be a new game out there. 54 00:02:53,841 --> 00:02:55,976 The game would arrive, and yet you'd have, like, 55 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:57,787 people stacked up and lined up waiting to play. 56 00:02:57,811 --> 00:02:59,012 But, yeah, it was packed. 57 00:02:59,046 --> 00:03:00,190 You could not get on that game. 58 00:03:00,214 --> 00:03:02,816 There was a line out to the door. 59 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:04,652 You could find a video game anywhere. 60 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,153 And it was just a different era. 61 00:03:33,347 --> 00:03:35,716 Then the opportunity suddenly popped up. 62 00:03:35,749 --> 00:03:39,186 A kid named Steve Joraszek played Defender 63 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:42,656 nonstop on one quarter and ended up with 23 million points. 64 00:03:42,690 --> 00:03:45,626 So I called up Williams Electronics in Chicago 65 00:03:45,659 --> 00:03:47,595 and asked them if this was a world record. 66 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:48,962 And they said, "we don't know." 67 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:51,799 So I offered to keep track of the scores for the industry. 68 00:03:51,832 --> 00:03:53,334 For some crazy reason of divine fate, 69 00:03:53,367 --> 00:03:54,835 they all said, "yeah." 70 00:03:54,868 --> 00:03:58,739 When anybody calls about scores, we're gonna send them to you" 71 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:00,574 send your playing techniques or high scores 72 00:04:00,608 --> 00:04:02,410 to the international scoreboard in Ottumwa. 73 00:04:02,443 --> 00:04:05,145 I was the official scorekeeper for the video game industry. 74 00:04:05,178 --> 00:04:07,114 Here are the top finalists. 75 00:04:07,147 --> 00:04:09,850 Within months, we were getting 30, 40, 50 phone calls a day. 76 00:04:09,883 --> 00:04:11,619 And so I called out to Ottumwa, Iowa, 77 00:04:11,652 --> 00:04:12,696 and talked to these people. 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,221 And we ended up calling up Walter. 79 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:15,656 I contacted Walter. 80 00:04:15,689 --> 00:04:18,191 Walter put together the only infrastructure 81 00:04:18,225 --> 00:04:21,429 that serious video game players could even become attracted to. 82 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:23,006 There was nobody else trying to do this. 83 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:24,365 Walter was the only person. 84 00:04:24,398 --> 00:04:25,909 I remember talking to him on the phone. 85 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:27,200 I think you just called him. 86 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:29,737 And I called the phone number, and Walter answered. 87 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:30,704 Walter. Walter. 88 00:04:30,738 --> 00:04:31,872 Walter. Walter Day. 89 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:33,206 I looked at the scoreboard, 90 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,742 and I saw that there were some people 91 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,544 who were just obviously superstars. 92 00:04:36,577 --> 00:04:38,979 What I found out was, though, was that I wasn't just 93 00:04:39,012 --> 00:04:40,814 the best player in my arcade. 94 00:04:40,848 --> 00:04:42,750 I was one of the best players in the country. 95 00:05:35,268 --> 00:05:37,337 Well, in the back seat, 96 00:05:37,371 --> 00:05:42,275 we have the entire spare boards and the entire board system 97 00:05:42,309 --> 00:05:45,145 from my Berzerk machine. 98 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:46,647 And, uh, 99 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,382 we can play some Berzerk. 100 00:05:48,416 --> 00:05:52,119 That's the whole key right here is to play some Berzerk. 101 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:54,755 My dad worked two jobs most of the time 102 00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:57,157 to make a living. 103 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:58,759 He went to one baseball game 104 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:03,664 in my entire life when I was about 11 years old. 105 00:06:03,697 --> 00:06:04,998 And I still remember that game. 106 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:08,335 Our team lost, but my dad was there, you know. 107 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,771 He died in march of '78. 108 00:06:10,804 --> 00:06:12,673 He died of a heart attack. 109 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:14,074 He died in my arms. 110 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:17,511 I tried CPR on him, and he just didn't make it. 111 00:06:17,545 --> 00:06:19,212 It really devastated me. 112 00:06:19,246 --> 00:06:21,314 And I was just very lonely, 113 00:06:21,348 --> 00:06:23,417 seeking things that didn't have any direction. 114 00:06:23,451 --> 00:06:27,054 And one day I walked into the underground arcade 115 00:06:27,087 --> 00:06:28,522 in Shelby, North Carolina. 116 00:06:28,556 --> 00:06:32,159 There was these two guys in business suits over there 117 00:06:32,192 --> 00:06:34,327 playing a game called Berzerk. 118 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:38,866 What a winner does is, 119 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:42,202 they find something that they can do well, 120 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:44,605 and they just do it over and over and over. 121 00:06:44,638 --> 00:06:47,207 And that's where you get your specialist at. 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,477 Well, I became a specialist in Berzerk. 123 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:52,580 In Berzerk, you are a humanoid. 124 00:06:52,613 --> 00:06:56,917 And you are just running through this very simple maze, 125 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:01,154 and there are these robots who don't like it. 126 00:07:01,188 --> 00:07:02,289 What happens is, 127 00:07:02,322 --> 00:07:03,824 a lot of robots appear on the screen. 128 00:07:03,857 --> 00:07:05,726 And you can't move your humanoid, 129 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,628 and they're shooting at you. 130 00:07:07,661 --> 00:07:09,701 And you just got to pray that joystick will kick in. 131 00:07:10,698 --> 00:07:12,299 Intruder alert. 132 00:07:12,332 --> 00:07:14,134 Kill the humanoid. 133 00:07:16,236 --> 00:07:19,172 There's also a Nemesis, evil Otto, 134 00:07:19,206 --> 00:07:20,741 it's a stop sign, 135 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:22,543 stop sign smiley face. 136 00:07:22,576 --> 00:07:25,245 And if he pounces on you, he kills you. 137 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,049 When somebody smiles and yet wants to kill you, 138 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:31,184 that is the ultimate in... He was a maniac. 139 00:07:31,218 --> 00:07:32,419 Kill the humanoid. 140 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:33,654 Stop the intruder. 141 00:07:33,687 --> 00:07:35,088 In the game of Berzerk, 142 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:38,659 there are 64,000 room combinations. 143 00:07:38,692 --> 00:07:41,194 Well, no one had figured that out yet. 144 00:07:41,228 --> 00:07:45,032 I mapped out every room, every combination. 145 00:07:45,065 --> 00:07:46,567 I was on the top, 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,303 but if you don't have someone to help you go even higher, 147 00:07:50,337 --> 00:07:51,805 you wane. 148 00:07:56,744 --> 00:07:58,679 I was a chemical engineer, 149 00:07:58,712 --> 00:08:01,048 mostly in the lithium industry. 150 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:04,151 I was laid off from work in 1982. 151 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:08,288 And Ron Bailey would prove to be an interesting fellow to me. 152 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:10,991 His major interest in his life was ham radio. 153 00:08:11,024 --> 00:08:12,168 I thought he'd have, you know, 154 00:08:12,192 --> 00:08:14,427 a little box sitting on the table. 155 00:08:14,461 --> 00:08:16,664 This guy had rooms full of stuff. 156 00:08:16,697 --> 00:08:17,665 I have a motto. 157 00:08:17,698 --> 00:08:18,999 "Nothing in moderation." 158 00:08:19,032 --> 00:08:21,101 He had a tower that was over 90 foot high 159 00:08:21,134 --> 00:08:23,236 that you could actually walk up a ladder on. 160 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:24,538 Destroy the intruder. 161 00:08:24,572 --> 00:08:26,540 Kill the humanoid. 162 00:08:26,574 --> 00:08:30,310 I didn't know this guy was a closet Berzerk player. 163 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:31,855 He made me feel good because of the fact 164 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:34,147 that someone older was having an interest in me. 165 00:08:34,181 --> 00:08:36,717 Boys, even if you're a boy at 22, 166 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:38,652 you need encouragement from older fellas. 167 00:08:38,686 --> 00:08:40,453 We knew as the two of us, 168 00:08:40,487 --> 00:08:42,590 we could beat everybody in the world. 169 00:08:42,623 --> 00:08:44,157 When you play a video game, 170 00:08:44,191 --> 00:08:46,159 there are days when you're playing the game, 171 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:48,562 and it's fighting you. 172 00:08:48,596 --> 00:08:52,666 Then there are days when you and the game become one. 173 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:54,367 At some point in time, 174 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:58,839 I felt as if I could get inside the machine mentally. 175 00:08:58,872 --> 00:08:59,840 You're fluid. 176 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:00,908 You're focused. 177 00:09:00,941 --> 00:09:02,442 You're with the game. 178 00:09:02,475 --> 00:09:05,278 You're right there with it, and everything is right. 179 00:09:05,312 --> 00:09:06,714 There's nothing that's wrong. 180 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:10,017 And you can even hear what's going on outside 181 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:11,018 of your realm. 182 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:12,686 You're so focused. 183 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,054 There's nothing. 184 00:09:14,087 --> 00:09:15,823 It is almost like a spiritual experience. 185 00:09:15,856 --> 00:09:18,558 I've had spiritual experiences, 186 00:09:18,592 --> 00:09:22,162 and it's a very similar feeling... 187 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:41,982 When you're playing that game, and you're totally focused, 188 00:09:42,015 --> 00:09:45,485 and you're totally one with that game. 189 00:10:05,673 --> 00:10:06,840 It's a unity, 190 00:10:06,874 --> 00:10:09,009 and it's just like a spiritual experience. 191 00:10:09,042 --> 00:10:11,879 When it's right, it's right. 192 00:10:21,588 --> 00:10:24,992 The name that I used to go by when I was playing video games 193 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:27,594 in my past life was Darren Olson. 194 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:28,996 When my mom and dad got divorced, 195 00:10:29,029 --> 00:10:30,831 it had been something that... 196 00:10:30,864 --> 00:10:32,399 We always wanted to change our name. 197 00:10:32,432 --> 00:10:34,267 There was a show we used to watch on TV 198 00:10:34,301 --> 00:10:36,103 called Remington Steele. 199 00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:40,140 Pierce Bronson, was it? 200 00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:41,141 I'm trying to remember it. 201 00:10:41,174 --> 00:10:42,843 I think he was a detective. 202 00:10:42,876 --> 00:10:46,980 And that's actually where I picked up the name Steele. 203 00:10:51,051 --> 00:10:54,054 He could just play Centipede and maneuver a track ball 204 00:10:54,087 --> 00:10:56,757 in a way that should not have been able to be done. 205 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:58,792 He's been demonstrating tonight 206 00:10:58,826 --> 00:11:00,560 his unique approach to playing Centipede, 207 00:11:00,593 --> 00:11:02,863 which is to clear off the bottom part of the screen 208 00:11:02,896 --> 00:11:05,165 and then live for as long as possible while the Centipede 209 00:11:05,198 --> 00:11:06,666 continues to go around. 210 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,969 He was what I considered the best player in the world 211 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:10,670 in video games, period. 212 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:14,441 He was just someone that even champions just chose to idolize. 213 00:11:14,474 --> 00:11:15,843 And Kent was another one. 214 00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:18,045 Kent was just as good as Darren was. 215 00:11:22,816 --> 00:11:26,153 I probably had world records on games like Stargate, 216 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:28,321 Centipede maybe at one point. 217 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:31,124 Donkey Kong Jr., Robotron. 218 00:11:31,158 --> 00:11:33,593 We would actually beat each other's scores at one time. 219 00:11:33,626 --> 00:11:34,828 And we didn't know each other. 220 00:11:34,862 --> 00:11:35,929 That was Kent. 221 00:11:35,963 --> 00:11:37,497 Probably Space Invaders that I met him. 222 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,299 It would have been in around there, 223 00:11:39,332 --> 00:11:41,334 'cause there was somebody else 224 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:43,236 that was getting some high scores on this game, 225 00:11:43,270 --> 00:11:45,739 and, you know, I'm in there playing the same game. 226 00:11:45,773 --> 00:11:47,775 And, you know, of course, the next thing you know, 227 00:11:47,808 --> 00:11:49,485 we're trying to compete against each other. 228 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:51,779 Games, you know, before that were pretty simple 229 00:11:51,812 --> 00:11:53,146 with just a couple, you know, 230 00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:54,481 the character you control, 231 00:11:54,514 --> 00:11:56,549 and here's a couple enemies you can play with. 232 00:11:56,583 --> 00:11:59,286 And here's 55 enemies coming at you, you know. 233 00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:01,188 That was different than playing Pong 234 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:03,090 or Breakout or any of the other games. 235 00:12:03,123 --> 00:12:05,458 And of a sudden, here you were protecting earth. 236 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:06,794 You could store your high score. 237 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:08,504 So other people could, like, come in and try 238 00:12:08,528 --> 00:12:09,496 to beat your high score. 239 00:12:09,529 --> 00:12:10,630 That was kind of a new... 240 00:12:10,663 --> 00:12:12,108 I mean, that was a new idea at the time. 241 00:12:12,132 --> 00:12:14,334 Originally, we used to have separate initials. 242 00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:16,837 And then finally we teamed up and go, 243 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:18,271 "let's just decide on one." 244 00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:20,583 I think one day somebody called us "whiz kids" or something, 245 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:21,885 so we go, "okay, what can we use?" 246 00:12:21,909 --> 00:12:22,876 "Wiz." 247 00:12:22,910 --> 00:12:24,211 We used W-I-Z. 248 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:25,979 'Cause you're only allowed three initials. 249 00:12:26,013 --> 00:12:27,390 We'd go on one game, play two players, 250 00:12:27,414 --> 00:12:29,292 and just fill up the top five scores, ten scores. 251 00:12:29,316 --> 00:12:30,517 It was all "WIZ." 252 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:32,361 Nobody else would have their initials in there. 253 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:34,154 And everybody wanted to know who WIZ was. 254 00:12:34,187 --> 00:12:35,155 People were asking us, 255 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:36,323 "you know, who's WIZ?" 256 00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:37,901 And we would go, "I don't know who he is." 257 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:40,260 This really applied in the game track and field. 258 00:12:40,293 --> 00:12:41,938 Some people that would just hit the buttons 259 00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:43,130 really hard like this, right, 260 00:12:43,163 --> 00:12:44,564 and make a lot of noise. 261 00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:46,843 The next thing, there's this thing called the double flap, 262 00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:48,368 which we used in joust all the time. 263 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:51,038 Did you do the double flap? 264 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:53,373 'Cause you can't hit it as fast this way 265 00:12:53,406 --> 00:12:54,717 as you can with two fingers going. 266 00:12:54,741 --> 00:12:57,544 The would do, like, two fingers on each button. 267 00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:59,046 Oh, I do remember the pencil trick. 268 00:12:59,079 --> 00:13:02,482 They would balance a pencil between the two run buttons 269 00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:04,517 and sort of, like, toggle it. 270 00:13:04,551 --> 00:13:06,229 By the pressure pushing down on the pencil, 271 00:13:06,253 --> 00:13:07,787 it flicks back very quickly. 272 00:13:07,821 --> 00:13:10,223 That's really cool that somebody actually adapted 273 00:13:10,257 --> 00:13:11,835 the use of a pencil to play a video game. 274 00:13:11,859 --> 00:13:13,326 That's rare. 275 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,494 That takes a genius. 276 00:13:14,527 --> 00:13:16,167 After that, we started thinking and going, 277 00:13:16,196 --> 00:13:18,966 "oh, I grab my mom's electric knife, right?" 278 00:13:18,999 --> 00:13:20,167 I haven't heard of that. 279 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,878 Where the blade stuck in, it actually moved 280 00:13:21,902 --> 00:13:23,270 just like my double flap did. 281 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:24,604 That's amazing. 282 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:25,705 The first time we tried it, 283 00:13:25,738 --> 00:13:26,706 nothing. 284 00:13:26,739 --> 00:13:27,740 "Oh, okay." 285 00:13:27,774 --> 00:13:29,052 But I had the dimmer switch on it. 286 00:13:29,076 --> 00:13:30,210 We had it going too fast. 287 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:31,478 So we turned it down. 288 00:13:31,511 --> 00:13:33,389 The next thing you know, we're jumping six feet. 289 00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:34,514 We're jumping eight feet. 290 00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:36,283 Turn it up, and we found the perfect spot. 291 00:13:36,316 --> 00:13:37,985 We're just blowing away. 292 00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:40,153 That blows me away. 293 00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:41,955 And there's initials, "WIZ" again. 294 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:44,024 So I was like, "who are these guys," you know. 295 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:46,059 Then we went and decided to conquer Calgary. 296 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,864 Let's take on every game in every 7-Eleven, every arcade. 297 00:13:50,898 --> 00:13:52,699 Let's go beat every high score. 298 00:13:52,732 --> 00:13:54,968 Everybody wanted to be better than everybody else. 299 00:13:55,002 --> 00:13:56,536 Everybody wanted to showcase. 300 00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:59,039 To use a sports analogy, these are the all-pro guys. 301 00:13:59,072 --> 00:14:00,540 You could walk in, 302 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:03,110 and you could be the biggest, strongest guy in the place. 303 00:14:03,143 --> 00:14:05,345 Well, if you couldn't play a video game, 304 00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:06,346 you were nothing. 305 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:07,680 He smoked everybody else. 306 00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:09,682 We would essentially dominate the game. 307 00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:12,219 'Cause we would win almost every tournament we went to. 308 00:14:12,252 --> 00:14:13,887 I'm the best there is in the world. 309 00:14:13,921 --> 00:14:16,289 There's all these video game players that have egos 310 00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:17,357 the size of cathedrals. 311 00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:18,791 I couldn't accept the fact 312 00:14:18,825 --> 00:14:20,369 that a computer's programmed to beat me. 313 00:14:20,393 --> 00:14:21,661 I used to go and play a game 314 00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:23,163 to destroy the game. 315 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:24,507 I could walk into a strange arcade 316 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:25,899 and step up to a game, 317 00:14:25,933 --> 00:14:28,311 and I could have half an arcade full of people around watching. 318 00:14:28,335 --> 00:14:30,603 It's not just, like, the best person at your arcade. 319 00:14:30,637 --> 00:14:32,505 You would actually be the best person ever. 320 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:42,449 They were just, like, in awe of what you're doing, right? 321 00:14:42,482 --> 00:14:44,084 Every game has a weakness. 322 00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,286 You've got to be ready. You've got to shoot quick. 323 00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:47,487 A t-shirt is a big part of it. 324 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,356 If you don't have a t-shirt, you're nobody. 325 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,959 They'd all backed out of the way with their line of quarters 326 00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:53,369 and let us play so they could watch. 327 00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:54,761 That's just the way it was. 328 00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:56,563 You can go from shit to god for a quarter. 329 00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:57,797 That's incredible. 330 00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,832 That's... no, these guys are unbelievable. 331 00:14:59,866 --> 00:15:02,169 To an arcade owner, I am their worst nightmare. 332 00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:04,938 I go in there and spend a quarter and last all day long. 333 00:15:04,972 --> 00:15:07,174 They're at a level where people can't hardly see 334 00:15:07,207 --> 00:15:08,175 what's going on. 335 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:09,409 "Look at that move. 336 00:15:09,442 --> 00:15:10,410 That's amazing." 337 00:15:10,443 --> 00:15:11,811 People just have to stop. 338 00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:12,812 They'd just come by. 339 00:15:12,845 --> 00:15:14,047 "Whoa, man. 340 00:15:14,081 --> 00:15:15,082 Good heavens." 341 00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:17,084 Boom, baby. 342 00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:20,187 That's how you play Donkey Kong. 343 00:15:20,220 --> 00:15:23,690 The regular circulation of the magazine is like 1 1/2 million. 344 00:15:23,723 --> 00:15:24,924 That's paid circulation, 345 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:27,627 so the readership had got to be at about 4 million. 346 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:30,630 I was a reporter at life magazine at the time. 347 00:15:30,663 --> 00:15:31,831 It was, like, 1982. 348 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:35,435 And we were trying to come up with pictures 349 00:15:35,468 --> 00:15:37,670 that would be good to capture the culture of the year. 350 00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:38,781 Walter called me up and said, 351 00:15:38,805 --> 00:15:40,216 "we're having all of the best players 352 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,808 "from around the country come, 353 00:15:41,841 --> 00:15:45,012 and life magazine's gonna be there to shoot the picture." 354 00:15:45,045 --> 00:15:47,247 We didn't know what to expect. 355 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,416 We don't know who's gonna be there. 356 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,417 We don't know if we're just 357 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:51,851 getting buffaloed into something. 358 00:15:51,884 --> 00:15:53,520 "Hey, you want to go to Iowa?" 359 00:15:53,553 --> 00:15:54,521 And I'm like, "where?" 360 00:15:54,554 --> 00:15:55,522 We're kids. 361 00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:56,523 We don't really care. 362 00:15:56,556 --> 00:15:57,524 We're gonna go, you know. 363 00:15:57,557 --> 00:15:58,525 We're gonna see the world. 364 00:15:58,558 --> 00:15:59,726 It was pretty exciting. 365 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,194 There was people from all over. 366 00:16:01,228 --> 00:16:03,572 It was California, Florida, I think one guy was from Alaska. 367 00:16:03,596 --> 00:16:05,832 Well, actually, I flew out with two friends of mine. 368 00:16:05,865 --> 00:16:08,235 And I thought we were gonna land in a cornfield in Ottumwa. 369 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:10,903 I was in a 1972 Ford LTD. 370 00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:12,472 When I went through Cincinnati, 371 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:14,574 I went over that big bridge coming in from Kentucky, 372 00:16:14,607 --> 00:16:15,875 and it horrified me. 373 00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:18,478 Poor little North Carolina boy had never been anywhere. 374 00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:20,047 I borrowed my mom's car. 375 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,149 They were coming down from Canada 376 00:16:22,182 --> 00:16:23,492 and that that was a possible swoop 377 00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:24,851 that they could pick me up. 378 00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:26,319 It was an old Toronado. 379 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:27,887 It was not easy to sleep 380 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,198 in the company of these two guys. 381 00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:31,758 I didn't know if we were gonna get there or not. 382 00:16:31,791 --> 00:16:35,895 We got there, and it was a pretty small town. 383 00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:38,331 I have never seen a city so square. 384 00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:39,966 You pull in to Ottumwa, Iowa, 385 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,377 I don't know what it was at the time, 386 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:42,402 20,000 or something. 387 00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:43,803 It was a little hick town, right? 388 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:46,173 The highway map for Iowa is like this. 389 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,175 If he hit it over the wall, 390 00:17:22,209 --> 00:17:24,344 it would have been just another accomplishment. 391 00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:26,613 What made it different was, he pointed at the wall. 392 00:17:26,646 --> 00:17:28,781 Well, that's what I was out to do then. 393 00:17:28,815 --> 00:17:30,083 And it was risky. 394 00:17:40,493 --> 00:17:43,263 Billy Mitchell, video game player of the century. 395 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:52,872 It's rather simple. 396 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:55,342 If you want to get a perfect game, you walk up. 397 00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:57,076 You put your quarter in. 398 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:58,211 You press start. 399 00:17:58,245 --> 00:17:59,846 You eat every dot. 400 00:17:59,879 --> 00:18:02,982 You eat every prize, every energizer. 401 00:18:03,015 --> 00:18:04,217 And on every energizer, 402 00:18:04,251 --> 00:18:06,653 you've got to get all four guys every time. 403 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,555 If you miss a guy, you're done. 404 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,723 If you miss a prize, you're done. 405 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:12,159 If you miss anything, you're done. 406 00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:13,960 You die one time, you're done. 407 00:18:13,993 --> 00:18:16,396 Just to give you an idea, watch how fast they turn back. 408 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:20,099 And you got to get all four. 409 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:23,203 256 boards over many, many hours, 410 00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:26,105 never dying once, never missing a point. 411 00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:29,142 I had all kinds of people, "oh, you can't do it. 412 00:18:29,176 --> 00:18:31,043 "Oh, no one's ever done that. 413 00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:32,355 "There's no way you can do that. 414 00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:33,646 Bet you you can't." 415 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,182 I'd say, "don't bet your life." 416 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:46,159 Sorry, I'm just showing off here. 417 00:18:46,193 --> 00:18:48,204 Bill Mitchell is the Jerry Rice or the Michael Jordan 418 00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:49,462 of all video game players. 419 00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:51,164 Man, he's phenomenal. 420 00:18:51,198 --> 00:18:54,066 Very loud, very outspoken, very confrontational. 421 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:56,636 And one of the lines he would always say to me is, 422 00:18:56,669 --> 00:18:59,339 "Steve, when I met you, I was but the learner. 423 00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:02,108 But now I am the master." 424 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,277 And I turned around. 425 00:19:04,311 --> 00:19:07,314 I stopped playing for a moment, and I looked at Bill Mitchell, 426 00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:09,482 and I said, "fuck you, Bill Mitchell. 427 00:19:09,516 --> 00:19:11,218 Fuck you." 428 00:19:11,251 --> 00:19:13,686 Mr. Nakamoto, he's the father of Pac-man, 429 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,264 he presented me with an award for Pac-man 430 00:19:15,288 --> 00:19:17,657 for having done the world's first perfect game. 431 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:19,759 So sometimes when I'm with someone, 432 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:21,437 "oh, you think you know more about the games 433 00:19:21,461 --> 00:19:23,496 than the people who made them?" 434 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:24,964 Um, yeah, they told me I do. 435 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,633 It's a very interesting experience 436 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,506 to see the whole video game hobby become so big 437 00:19:28,535 --> 00:19:31,204 that there are now stars like Billy. 438 00:19:31,238 --> 00:19:33,440 I'd be lying to you if I told you it wasn't fun. 439 00:19:33,473 --> 00:19:35,284 I'd be lying to you if I told you didn't enjoy it. 440 00:19:35,308 --> 00:19:36,276 Look at him. 441 00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:37,520 He sticks out like a sore thumb. 442 00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:38,978 He's got... what is this? 443 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,113 What do they call that, that hairdo? 444 00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:43,082 Business up front, party in the back. 445 00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:45,318 He has this hairdo like a country western singer. 446 00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:46,353 What do they call those? 447 00:19:46,386 --> 00:19:47,787 Short on top and long in back? 448 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:48,888 Uh... 449 00:19:48,921 --> 00:19:50,122 Ah, that's a mullet. 450 00:19:50,156 --> 00:19:51,190 A mullet? 451 00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:52,859 That's called a mullet. The mullet. 452 00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:53,860 Mullets rock. 453 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:55,194 So he's very, very noticeable. 454 00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:56,763 Walter will say Billy Mitchell 455 00:19:56,796 --> 00:19:58,531 is the most famous video game player. 456 00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:00,243 And I tend to disagree with that to a point. 457 00:20:00,267 --> 00:20:01,577 There's a lot of jealousy involved 458 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:02,702 with this video game stuff. 459 00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:04,371 I mean, these guys who play video games, 460 00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:05,438 I mean, let's face it. 461 00:20:05,472 --> 00:20:06,739 I mean, they couldn't get laid 462 00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:08,933 in a whorehouse with a handful of hundred dollar bills. 463 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:18,518 My name is Roy Shildt. 464 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:21,020 I'm the world champion of Missile Command, 465 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:27,260 1,695,265 points, which I achieved in 1985. 466 00:20:27,294 --> 00:20:30,697 The prestige of Missile Command is a lot greater, 467 00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:32,465 because it's a macho game. 468 00:20:32,499 --> 00:20:34,066 You know, it's Missile Command. 469 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,669 It has a lot of paramilitary association. 470 00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:40,673 It has a lot of phallic association associated with it, 471 00:20:40,707 --> 00:20:43,042 just like a missile is like a penis, you know. 472 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:45,235 It's kind of like there's a lot of penis envy involved. 473 00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:47,880 Of course I was famous. 474 00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:50,617 You know, he goes around saying he's the world's most famous 475 00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:51,851 video game player, 476 00:20:51,884 --> 00:20:53,629 like people are walking up to him all the time 477 00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:55,087 recognizing him. 478 00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:57,957 I said, "well, it's probably the hookers on Park Avenue." 479 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:59,692 You know. 480 00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:02,194 I wouldn't play a candy-ass game like Pac-man. 481 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,996 That's for girls and chumps. 482 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:05,908 The guys who play Pac-man are not very talented. 483 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:07,667 They can't handle games like Missile Command 484 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:09,135 or any of the real tough games. 485 00:21:09,168 --> 00:21:11,514 Those games are more popular because they're easier to play. 486 00:21:11,538 --> 00:21:13,578 The games like Missile Command are not that popular, 487 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:15,141 because they're really hard to master, 488 00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:16,719 and it takes a lot of skill to play them. 489 00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:20,246 And track balls are a lot harder to control than a joystick. 490 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,350 And there's three buttons, three different missile bases, 491 00:21:23,383 --> 00:21:25,352 and missiles that travel at different speeds. 492 00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,019 The Missile Command record 493 00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:29,522 is a super record, and his records are mediocre. 494 00:21:29,556 --> 00:21:31,724 One great record is worth 20 mediocre records, 495 00:21:31,758 --> 00:21:33,025 as far as I'm concerned. 496 00:21:37,464 --> 00:21:39,432 That's why I refer to him as Silly Bitchell, 497 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:42,268 because he really is nothing but a silly bitch. 498 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,636 Billy Mitchell broke my score. 499 00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:45,538 Oh, sorry. 500 00:21:45,572 --> 00:21:47,740 Todd Rogers, I mean, that guy is so high on himself. 501 00:21:47,774 --> 00:21:49,208 You can't even talk to him. 502 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:51,844 There's a number of players out there that are insanely jealous, 503 00:21:51,878 --> 00:21:54,614 which I won't mention names, of Billy's achievements. 504 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:56,325 How would you like it if you worked that hard 505 00:21:56,349 --> 00:21:57,750 to achieve something 506 00:21:57,784 --> 00:22:00,319 and some jackass came along and tried to say it was fake? 507 00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:01,988 You know, I never threatened Walter Day, 508 00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,155 but he thinks I did. 509 00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:05,091 I tried to call him after that, and he says, 510 00:22:05,124 --> 00:22:06,258 "I can't talk to you. 511 00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:07,703 My attorney says not to talk to you." 512 00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:09,462 And he hangs the phone up. 513 00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:14,634 Well, I had my attorney send Walter Day a letter 514 00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:17,236 saying, "you better tell the truth about my score", 515 00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:20,006 "or else we're gonna file an injunction against you, 516 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,174 go in to court, and all this other stuff." 517 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,377 And the truth is Bill Mitchell doesn't have any talent, 518 00:22:24,411 --> 00:22:25,454 and he's not a great player. 519 00:22:25,478 --> 00:22:26,913 He's completely full of shit. 520 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:28,981 The Missile Command score is a genuine achievement. 521 00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:30,393 And that's gonna be the truth of it, 522 00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:31,384 and he knows it. 523 00:22:31,418 --> 00:22:32,661 Is that why I'm fighting so hard 524 00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:35,087 to hold on to the Missile Command score? 525 00:22:35,121 --> 00:22:38,625 Yes. 526 00:22:38,658 --> 00:22:41,861 Because it makes me special. 527 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:42,862 It gives me recognition. 528 00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:44,063 Of course I want to keep it. 529 00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:45,741 I don't want someone to say it was fake or... 530 00:22:45,765 --> 00:22:48,635 I mean, it's kind of obvious, isn't it? 531 00:22:48,668 --> 00:22:50,588 Is that really a question that needs to be asked? 532 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:55,041 Well, life magazine has come to town to photograph 533 00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:58,210 early on this Sunday morning at 7:30 534 00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:00,413 the downtown main street. 535 00:23:03,983 --> 00:23:05,384 Life magazine has come to town... 536 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:07,086 So that Life magazine could come to town... 537 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,087 Life magazine has come... 538 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,088 Life magazine... 539 00:23:09,121 --> 00:23:10,256 Give me a break. 540 00:23:10,289 --> 00:23:11,734 And so that's when I first met Walter. 541 00:23:11,758 --> 00:23:12,992 I had not met him at all 542 00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:15,394 before I actually went out for that photo shoot. 543 00:23:15,428 --> 00:23:18,831 I was impressed by his charisma and his bizarrity. 544 00:23:18,865 --> 00:23:21,968 He definitely reminded me a little bit of gene Wilder. 545 00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:25,271 Walter Day is a product of the Berkeley era of the '60s. 546 00:23:25,304 --> 00:23:27,273 He's a renaissance man. 547 00:23:27,306 --> 00:23:28,541 He's a big dreamer, 548 00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:31,878 always coming up with great plans and dreams. 549 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:40,086 I had 50 million business cards, the king of the card collectors. 550 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,155 I used to do genealogical research 551 00:23:43,189 --> 00:23:44,857 and all sorts of historical research. 552 00:23:44,891 --> 00:23:46,325 He was an oil broker. 553 00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,327 I'd be on the telephone speaking to conoco. 554 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,830 "Oh, you want 20,000 barrels of 2 oil?" 555 00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:52,765 He sold old newspapers. 556 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,467 And I have 7 million newspapers. 557 00:23:54,501 --> 00:23:56,402 They weigh about a thousand tons. 558 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,337 One more step into eccentric 559 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:01,040 probably wouldn't be functioning in society. 560 00:24:01,073 --> 00:24:02,975 You keep them in a dark place. 561 00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:05,244 Try not to fold them, and keep them flat. 562 00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:06,378 Walter's in the house. 563 00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:07,714 Well, it's that time of year 564 00:24:07,747 --> 00:24:09,549 when we're getting all the champions lined up. 565 00:24:09,582 --> 00:24:11,684 I thought he was a guy who belonged onstage 566 00:24:11,718 --> 00:24:13,158 dancing around a bunch of video games 567 00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:14,687 with a microphone. 568 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,823 For me, video games were pulling out the sword, 569 00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:19,258 getting on the horse, and leading the army into battle, 570 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:22,629 fighting, battle, winning, rivalry, warfare. 571 00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:25,197 Video games were fighting and winning. 572 00:24:25,231 --> 00:24:28,200 He was just that edge of, like, brilliant 573 00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:30,469 "I could sell snow to Eskimos" kind of thing. 574 00:24:30,503 --> 00:24:32,615 We were the most famous video game arcade in the world, 575 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:34,406 so the mayor went along with it. 576 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,376 I proclaimed Ottumwa the video game capital of the world, 577 00:24:37,409 --> 00:24:40,747 and we just challenge anybody to prove that we're wrong. 578 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:42,081 And then a little bit later, 579 00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:44,216 the governor of Iowa came and confirmed it 580 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:46,753 by announcing that Iowa officially recognized 581 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:48,564 Ottumwa as the video game capital of the world. 582 00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:50,356 That's amazing what he pulled off. 583 00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:52,559 Yeah, 'cause there's no Internet back then, 584 00:24:52,592 --> 00:24:53,793 no mass communication. 585 00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:55,762 You know, outside of the local arcade, 586 00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:58,030 you didn't know across the city 587 00:24:58,064 --> 00:24:59,498 if there's somebody better than you. 588 00:24:59,532 --> 00:25:02,434 Just the sense, the feel, the electricity 589 00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:06,706 in Twin Galaxies, Ottumwa, that Walter brought to that, 590 00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:09,041 instantly you felt that there's someone 591 00:25:09,075 --> 00:25:11,177 who really cared about video game players, 592 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,244 about high scores. 593 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:13,379 You could feel that. 594 00:25:13,412 --> 00:25:16,415 And at that point, everything was great. 595 00:25:20,887 --> 00:25:23,623 Here we have my 11-inch Parahybana. 596 00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:25,457 She was eating a dead squirrel. 597 00:25:25,491 --> 00:25:26,659 At the end of three days, 598 00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:28,595 the squirrel didn't have a head or an arm. 599 00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,645 I got stung by a bee when I was four years old. 600 00:25:45,678 --> 00:25:47,279 My way of getting back at the bee 601 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:50,149 was throwing bees in a spider's web. 602 00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:51,860 I got some critters for you to take a look at. 603 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:52,919 I'll bring 'em in there. 604 00:25:52,952 --> 00:25:55,354 Oh, wow. 605 00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:56,455 They got big. 606 00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:57,857 This is the USA Flea Market, 607 00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:01,027 one of the flea markets in central Florida that I frequent. 608 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,394 How you doing? 609 00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:05,540 It's a little off-center here. 610 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,966 Hang on, I've got the glasses there. 611 00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:08,868 There you go. 612 00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:09,902 And how. 613 00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:14,941 And there's a few shops that I stop at in here 614 00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:16,976 to purchase either lizard or spider food. 615 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:20,546 I probably have 40 different large ones, 616 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:25,685 and total overall, maybe 200 total in my closet. 617 00:26:25,718 --> 00:26:26,819 Oh, yeah. 618 00:26:26,853 --> 00:26:27,820 Oh, yeah, both of them. 619 00:26:27,854 --> 00:26:28,888 Excellent. 620 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:29,889 There's a variety of ones. 621 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,791 I have Goliath bird spiders 622 00:26:31,824 --> 00:26:34,326 that range from 8 inches to 10 1/2. 623 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,595 Baby pink toe, south American birch spider 624 00:26:36,629 --> 00:26:39,065 about the size of your little pinky fingernail. 625 00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:40,566 Spiders have eight eyes, eight legs, 626 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,401 and they live 25 to 40 years, 627 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:44,036 hear your heartbeat 30 feet away. 628 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,438 We tried mating and putting those males with her. 629 00:26:46,472 --> 00:26:47,807 That was a joke. 630 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,108 She came out... "rrr." 631 00:26:49,141 --> 00:26:50,342 Oh, no; Oh, no. 632 00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:52,178 Wow, it's hot in here. 633 00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:56,716 17-year-old Todd Rogers is, well, a video game freak. 634 00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:59,919 The young man from Chicago got the bug at 14 635 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:03,022 and now, by almost anyone's definition, 636 00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:05,424 might well be considered one of the world champions 637 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:07,326 in home video competition. 638 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,496 Oh, Barnstorming, you have to fly over windmills 639 00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:12,198 and through a barn and avoiding geese. 640 00:27:12,231 --> 00:27:13,766 Every time you tap that stick, 641 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,703 it's 0.30 of a second that's counted off on your time. 642 00:27:16,736 --> 00:27:19,371 I, of course, want to be the best at what I do. 643 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:20,840 If I'm gonna fly a perfect game, 644 00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:23,375 what's the bare minimum that you can get on a game? 645 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:26,078 The tape marks the top of the windmill. 646 00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:28,881 And then the second set of tape marks the very top 647 00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:30,416 of the bottom inside of the barn. 648 00:27:30,449 --> 00:27:34,787 I had set 32.50 on it in front of three Twin Galaxies referees 649 00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:35,922 and about 30 people. 650 00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:38,090 I have over 2,000 high scores. 651 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:41,327 Toddzilla, 652 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,663 the king of video games, Mr. Activision. 653 00:27:44,697 --> 00:27:47,333 A lot of companies look to have talented gamers 654 00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:48,500 promote their products. 655 00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:50,036 "Well, why don't you do a show for us? 656 00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:51,847 "We're gonna fly you in, gonna pay your hotel. 657 00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:52,839 We're gonna feed you." 658 00:27:52,872 --> 00:27:54,173 And in my case, feeding me, 659 00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:57,877 oh, that's worth its weight in gold, you know. 660 00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:00,747 What could be better in life than a 64-ounce Pepsi 661 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,081 and a piece of pizza 662 00:28:02,114 --> 00:28:03,850 and all the video games you could play? 663 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,221 A few years ago, 664 00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:11,457 I tried to recreate a German enigma cipher machine, 665 00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,226 one of the first machine encipherment things 666 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:16,628 that was used by the Germans in World War II. 667 00:28:16,662 --> 00:28:21,233 I draw a lot of pleasure from solving problems. 668 00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:24,670 I had a girlfriend one time. 669 00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:26,839 I was an introvert with a broken heart. 670 00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:28,841 My one true love in my life at that time 671 00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,376 was a girl named Kimberly Fennel. 672 00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:31,543 She broke up with me. 673 00:28:31,577 --> 00:28:33,345 Heart was completely broken. 674 00:28:33,379 --> 00:28:34,914 And so I had all this time. 675 00:28:34,947 --> 00:28:36,715 And so what's gonna fill the void? 676 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:38,751 All the time you would spend with a girlfriend 677 00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:41,287 I was spending with video games. 678 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,890 Battlezone, it was the game that I was the best at, 679 00:28:43,923 --> 00:28:45,324 because I was very, very aggressive 680 00:28:45,357 --> 00:28:47,093 in my style to that game. 681 00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:48,294 Most folks, when the tanks, 682 00:28:48,327 --> 00:28:50,205 the super tanks or the missiles would come at you, 683 00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:53,165 they would back up so they'd have more time to shoot. 684 00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:55,701 But I figured out the rhythm of how they all moved, 685 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:56,812 so I would always go forward. 686 00:28:56,836 --> 00:28:58,037 Like Patton, right? 687 00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:59,247 Patton had one standing order. 688 00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:00,807 Always attack. 689 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,075 If you're concentrating on missiles coming to shoot you, 690 00:29:03,109 --> 00:29:06,846 you're not really wondering where your ex-girlfriend is now. 691 00:29:06,879 --> 00:29:12,084 So I tried to go for the Robotron world record. 692 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:14,653 But I only lasted, like, 25 hours. 693 00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:18,324 I played frenzied for 24 hours and five minutes. 694 00:29:18,357 --> 00:29:20,592 For me, 36 hours, that was brutal. 695 00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:22,161 41 hours; That was brutal. 696 00:29:22,194 --> 00:29:23,129 42 hours. 697 00:29:23,162 --> 00:29:24,130 48 hours. 698 00:29:24,163 --> 00:29:25,397 60 hours straight. 699 00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:26,966 I think it was 68 hours straight. 700 00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:29,201 I started on a Saturday and ended up on a Tuesday. 701 00:29:29,235 --> 00:29:30,675 I could be here until Monday morning, 702 00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:31,880 but I have to go back to work. 703 00:29:31,904 --> 00:29:32,972 I had played, like, 704 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:34,673 Asteroids for something like 705 00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:37,009 I don't know, eight days or something. 706 00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:49,788 Eventually the game gives out or you give out. 707 00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:52,324 The only breaks I would take would be to run to the bathroom. 708 00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:53,893 You want to hydrate yourself, 709 00:29:53,926 --> 00:29:55,603 but you don't want to get to the point where, 710 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:57,296 "oh, my god, I got to make mud." 711 00:29:57,329 --> 00:30:01,067 It gets to a certain point where the average person will wither. 712 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,535 They just cannot take the intensity. 713 00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:06,072 It's too fast at the highest levels. 714 00:30:11,677 --> 00:30:12,644 My name is Robert Mruczek. 715 00:30:12,678 --> 00:30:14,613 I am the chief referee 716 00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:17,283 for the Twin Galaxies intergalactic scoreboard. 717 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:20,086 I've been chief referee for the last four years. 718 00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,654 I've been gaming since 1969. 719 00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:32,531 As a referee for Twin Galaxies, it's my responsibilities, 720 00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:35,902 as quickly as I can, pending, of course, my own availability, 721 00:30:35,935 --> 00:30:37,803 to watch these performances, 722 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,371 authenticate and make sure they're done 723 00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:40,539 at the correct settings, 724 00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:41,908 and then when they are, 725 00:30:41,941 --> 00:30:44,476 to enter them into the Twin Galaxies database. 726 00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:47,179 I know the tournament settings and the marathon settings 727 00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:48,514 in the back of my head. 728 00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:50,282 I'm familiar with the world record holders, 729 00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,617 what the scores are. 730 00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:55,387 I have video tapes, and I have a few CD-ROMs and DVDs. 731 00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,323 The longest performance is Nibbler. 732 00:30:57,356 --> 00:31:00,859 It's an expected 30-to 40-hour performance. 733 00:31:00,893 --> 00:31:05,131 I've seen or witnessed more than 20,000 video tapes 734 00:31:05,164 --> 00:31:08,901 or world record scores over the last 4 1/2 years. 735 00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:10,269 I almost don't sleep. 736 00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:11,403 I go to sleep between 737 00:31:11,437 --> 00:31:14,773 3:30 and 5:00 in the morning weekdays. 738 00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:17,376 There are days when I do 24-hour stretches doing nothing 739 00:31:17,409 --> 00:31:18,877 but watching games 740 00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:21,547 on top of my regular job, which is accounting, 741 00:31:21,580 --> 00:31:24,183 which I do 60 to 70 hours a week. 742 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:27,853 This is my 22-pound cat, Rusty. 743 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,991 He helps me watch my video tape submissions sometimes 744 00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:34,526 by keeping me company while I'm watching a tape. 745 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,562 Watching a world's record performance 746 00:31:36,595 --> 00:31:38,497 is the ultimate satisfaction, 747 00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:40,732 seeing the game taken where no one else has been able 748 00:31:40,766 --> 00:31:42,101 to take it before. 749 00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:46,372 I think it is the single best job I could possible have. 750 00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,773 It doesn't pay anything, 751 00:31:47,806 --> 00:31:51,710 but as far as for what a gamer likes to do, this is it. 752 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:54,746 It's not easy, but I get it done. 753 00:31:58,184 --> 00:31:59,818 Welcome to Video Game News Update. 754 00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:01,153 I'm Walter Day 755 00:32:01,187 --> 00:32:03,155 of the Twin Galaxies international scoreboard. 756 00:32:03,189 --> 00:32:06,858 Imagine playing a video game for 36 1/2 hours on one quarter. 757 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:09,061 That's how Leo Daniels of North Carolina 758 00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:12,664 earned a world record score of 169 million points on Robotron. 759 00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:14,300 Leo was a gaming genius. 760 00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:15,701 He's very bright and brilliant. 761 00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:17,436 He was Mr. Video games. 762 00:32:17,469 --> 00:32:19,705 He had lightning-fast reflexes. 763 00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:23,175 It was just insane to watch him in some of these games. 764 00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:27,813 It wasn't long until Leo had records on multiple games. 765 00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:29,781 I didn't really start playing the video games 766 00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:32,318 until Asteroids came out. 767 00:32:32,351 --> 00:32:35,187 I went down to... It was Kure Beach Pier. 768 00:32:35,221 --> 00:32:37,856 There was a little, like, putt-putt golf course thing. 769 00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:39,258 And so I went back there, 770 00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:43,029 and there was this short little guy with dark hair and glasses. 771 00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:45,631 You know, kind of roped off from everybody else. 772 00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:48,967 And I remember just seeing all these ships he had. 773 00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,236 He would leave one asteroid 774 00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:52,214 and then fly from the bottom to the top of the screen 775 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:54,373 and then just kill the little saucers for 300 points. 776 00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:55,974 And then it got me thinking, 777 00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:59,011 "wow, he outsmarted the game." 778 00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:19,965 The people you hang around really reflects on you. 779 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,733 If you want to be somebody successful, 780 00:33:21,767 --> 00:33:23,669 surround yourself with successful people. 781 00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:26,405 Some people get married, and they let that be the end 782 00:33:26,438 --> 00:33:27,873 where it should be a new beginning. 783 00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:29,641 They, you know, get a humdrum job 784 00:33:29,675 --> 00:33:31,110 that they don't like going in to. 785 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,379 And they let that interfere with their marriage. 786 00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:34,846 That wouldn't be fun for me. 787 00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:42,421 Hello? 788 00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:43,889 I'm still doing the interview. 789 00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:45,567 I told you I'd call when they were through. 790 00:33:45,591 --> 00:33:47,359 She has the most super personality 791 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,095 of anybody I've ever met, 792 00:33:49,128 --> 00:33:51,163 out of any woman. 793 00:33:51,197 --> 00:33:53,099 I mean, look at this face. 794 00:33:53,132 --> 00:33:54,366 She smiles all the time, 795 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,935 which makes me smile all the time. 796 00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:57,936 There's a lot of stuff. 797 00:33:57,969 --> 00:34:00,872 He's met a lot of people. 798 00:34:00,906 --> 00:34:02,541 But that's cool. 799 00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:04,943 He's the type of person that always has an angle 800 00:34:04,976 --> 00:34:06,645 on something going somewhere. 801 00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:08,680 Everything that he did in a video game, 802 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,283 not cheating, but, again, like, what we always used to do is 803 00:34:11,317 --> 00:34:13,185 go around the original rules of the game 804 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:16,288 as the programmers had thought of it to get ahead. 805 00:34:16,322 --> 00:34:19,225 And I think Leo does the same kind of thing 806 00:34:19,258 --> 00:34:20,226 in real life too. 807 00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:21,227 I don't know. 808 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,528 Some folks never grow up. 809 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:25,097 Maybe they're just like the whole Peter Pan thing, 810 00:34:25,131 --> 00:34:26,732 stuck in a video game. 811 00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:28,867 I continue to play games 812 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,412 not just because it's a part of my past. 813 00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:32,238 Because it's a part of me. 814 00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:33,639 I grew up with them. 815 00:34:33,672 --> 00:34:34,849 You know, I don't feel my age. 816 00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:37,343 I don't think I act my age at all. 817 00:34:37,376 --> 00:34:40,346 I think age is just a number. 818 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,816 This was the first time video game players 819 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,685 on this level had ever met. 820 00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:49,087 It was the first time in my life I met people at my level. 821 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:52,691 And suddenly, I could not be the best at every video game. 822 00:34:52,724 --> 00:34:54,293 Okay, these guys were too good. 823 00:34:54,326 --> 00:34:58,264 I hope in the near future to be one of the very top players, 824 00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,500 between first and third for video games. 825 00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:05,837 When Joel and I met today, we challenged each other. 826 00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:08,039 We can go right through monsters. 827 00:35:08,073 --> 00:35:09,040 It's totally amazing. 828 00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:10,242 It's just totally amazing. 829 00:35:10,276 --> 00:35:12,154 It really made me look at the way I play my game. 830 00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:13,145 And it was fun. 831 00:35:13,179 --> 00:35:14,346 It was humbling too, 832 00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:15,747 'cause they were better than I was. 833 00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,425 As all the other players have seen you play 834 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,261 say that you are possibly one of the best players 835 00:35:19,285 --> 00:35:20,752 they've ever seen. 836 00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:24,556 We were just sort of, in a sense, brothers. 837 00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:26,358 I think Steve Sanders is probably 838 00:35:26,392 --> 00:35:28,059 the most outgoing player. 839 00:35:28,093 --> 00:35:29,995 He was really into his Donkey Kong. 840 00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:33,399 Steve has set over 3 million points on Donkey Kong, 841 00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:35,401 which is an extremely high score for that game. 842 00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:38,003 That is at once a very proud moment for me 843 00:35:38,036 --> 00:35:40,539 and a very shameful, embarrassing moment for me. 844 00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:41,707 And I'll tell you why. 845 00:35:51,217 --> 00:35:53,151 Lord, forgive us. 846 00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:56,021 We're hypocrites. 847 00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,457 We're just like those Pharisees. 848 00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:01,092 Help us to be Jesus to the world. 849 00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:05,764 Help us to take his kindness and compassion to everyone. 850 00:36:05,797 --> 00:36:10,269 We pray it for the sake of Jesus and in his name. 851 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:13,905 Amen. 852 00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:15,574 Thank you all. 853 00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,843 When I was 17, 18 years old, 854 00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:20,512 I had these license plates. 855 00:36:20,546 --> 00:36:22,581 He was trying to be famous or whatever, 856 00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:23,749 which he was for a while. 857 00:36:23,782 --> 00:36:25,551 You know, he got a book deal out of it. 858 00:36:25,584 --> 00:36:26,585 Unlike most people 859 00:36:26,618 --> 00:36:27,986 who have heard about Twin Galaxies 860 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:30,155 either in a magazine or on the radio, 861 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,157 I heard about it when I was writing a book 862 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,393 called the video master's guide to Donkey Kong. 863 00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:38,063 When I was playing Donkey Kong, invariably, some kid would go, 864 00:36:38,096 --> 00:36:41,233 "man, you must have read the book." 865 00:36:41,267 --> 00:36:44,270 And my buddy would say, "he wrote the book." 866 00:36:44,303 --> 00:36:45,971 So... 867 00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:51,610 Well, I guess I had the attitude, 868 00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:52,911 particularly on Donkey Kong, 869 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,280 that nobody could beat me, period. 870 00:36:54,313 --> 00:36:56,882 And I wouldn't tolerate anybody telling me they could. 871 00:36:56,915 --> 00:36:58,717 By the time I knew that I was right 872 00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:00,952 was when I was at Life magazine. 873 00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:02,426 It was very interesting at that time. 874 00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:04,031 In fact, I remember back, like, you know, 875 00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:05,733 somebody would be getting close to a record, 876 00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,435 and it was like everybody would almost stop. 877 00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:09,737 Boy, how could this guy get 3 million points at Donkey Kong? 878 00:37:09,761 --> 00:37:12,531 Like, I'm having trouble getting 6,000 or 7,000 points. 879 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,132 In front of what we'd believed 880 00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:16,735 was the 20 best players in the world, 881 00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,470 I played him a game of Donkey Kong. 882 00:37:18,504 --> 00:37:20,639 He got 190,000 in his game. 883 00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:21,973 After watching him not being able 884 00:37:22,007 --> 00:37:25,477 to get over 250,000 to 300,000 points, 885 00:37:25,511 --> 00:37:29,481 which was 10% of his score that he claimed to have... 886 00:37:29,515 --> 00:37:34,786 I got 849,000 points on my first guy. 887 00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:36,555 That was the end of the questions. 888 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:40,859 And I just felt like the wind had been taken out of my sails. 889 00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:41,993 I felt sucker punched. 890 00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:43,995 I forever put him in his place. 891 00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:46,965 My game play absolutely intimidated him. 892 00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:48,900 In the spring of 1982, 893 00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:53,639 Walter came out with a poster of high scores. 894 00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:56,742 When my score of 450,000 was reported 895 00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:59,177 as having been beaten by somebody, 896 00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:01,813 I think from Leo Daniels' arcade, 897 00:38:01,847 --> 00:38:02,914 I should have said, 898 00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:04,850 "Walter, I'll believe it when I see it." 899 00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:07,185 What I did instead was, I lied. 900 00:38:07,218 --> 00:38:09,655 When I discovered players were cheating, 901 00:38:09,688 --> 00:38:12,190 I was absolutely dumbfounded. 902 00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:14,493 I was silly enough to submit that to Walter Day, 903 00:38:14,526 --> 00:38:16,662 and he was silly enough to print that. 904 00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:19,465 And that score got in the guinness book of world records. 905 00:38:19,498 --> 00:38:21,800 I was floored, 'cause I thought he was the, 906 00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:23,402 you know, the Donkey Kong master. 907 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:26,405 Some people, if they're good at selling used cars, 908 00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:28,173 and they can lie straight to somebody's face 909 00:38:28,206 --> 00:38:30,084 and feel good about it... Some people can do that. 910 00:38:30,108 --> 00:38:32,310 The letter reads, "dear friends", 911 00:38:32,344 --> 00:38:35,681 to some of you, this letter will be rather shocking news." 912 00:38:35,714 --> 00:38:37,649 But he sent everybody a letter saying that, 913 00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:39,150 "look, I exaggerated my scores. 914 00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:40,819 This wasn't true." 915 00:38:40,852 --> 00:38:44,756 I am very sorry and very ashamed of this whole ordeal. 916 00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:48,293 "I have hurt Walter, Bill, and Darren by my lies." 917 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:49,561 That kind of got me mad. 918 00:38:49,595 --> 00:38:51,606 It never occurred to me that somebody could do that. 919 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:52,864 I didn't like him much. 920 00:38:52,898 --> 00:38:57,102 "My sincerest apologies to you all, Steve Sanders." 921 00:38:57,135 --> 00:39:00,271 That was a hard letter to write, but after I wrote it, 922 00:39:00,305 --> 00:39:02,774 I felt like the weight of the world 923 00:39:02,808 --> 00:39:04,275 was lifted off my shoulders. 924 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:09,214 By God's grace, that event in my life, 925 00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:11,517 it is sort of a signpost, 926 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,520 a midnight star to guide my direction now. 927 00:39:14,553 --> 00:39:15,687 Amen. 928 00:39:15,721 --> 00:39:17,956 Twin Galaxies with the champions here, 929 00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:22,293 I think it was... made Ottumwa kind of famous, kind of. 930 00:39:22,327 --> 00:39:23,629 We were like celebrities there. 931 00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:25,330 You know, here's this small town, 932 00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,274 and all of a sudden you've got these guys coming. 933 00:39:27,298 --> 00:39:29,200 The day we got there and went to the arcade, 934 00:39:29,234 --> 00:39:31,202 they had to get us in a side door, 935 00:39:31,236 --> 00:39:33,271 'cause the arcade was overflowing with people. 936 00:39:33,304 --> 00:39:34,882 A lot of the guys were out there partying. 937 00:39:34,906 --> 00:39:36,942 I mean, I was... Maybe I was too much of a nerd. 938 00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:38,944 They had a 19-year-old drinking age, 939 00:39:38,977 --> 00:39:41,880 so we were able to... Or maybe it was 18. 940 00:39:41,913 --> 00:39:43,190 It might have been 18 back then. 941 00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,083 I remember the cheerleaders. 942 00:39:45,116 --> 00:39:46,918 They were from the Ottumwa high school. 943 00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:49,421 We went up and introduced ourselves, started talking, 944 00:39:49,455 --> 00:39:51,690 and then we ended up spending some time together. 945 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:56,462 I'd never seen groupies before. 946 00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:57,696 That was pretty exciting. 947 00:39:57,729 --> 00:39:59,598 There were actually video game groupies. 948 00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:01,399 We'd have groupies hanging around us. 949 00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:03,635 Yeah, there were groupies. 950 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:10,408 It's pretty weird, 951 00:40:10,442 --> 00:40:12,511 'cause Ottumwa doesn't seem like a very big town, 952 00:40:12,544 --> 00:40:13,612 but now it is. 953 00:40:13,645 --> 00:40:14,980 I was shocked and thrilled, 954 00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:16,982 because I'm a goddess appreciator. 955 00:40:17,015 --> 00:40:19,150 Just like there's the Grateful Dead Deadheads 956 00:40:19,184 --> 00:40:20,318 who follow the group around. 957 00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:22,053 I'm married right now. 958 00:40:22,087 --> 00:40:23,565 I potentially have a very jealous wife, 959 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:28,159 so I don't know if I can really go down that road. 960 00:40:35,567 --> 00:40:38,169 Everybody said, "oh, Ben, I'll bet you had girls after you." 961 00:40:38,203 --> 00:40:39,705 Not really. 962 00:40:39,738 --> 00:40:42,273 I was just fortunate that people could look at me and, 963 00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:43,609 you know, not throw up. 964 00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:45,744 To me, that was not as much of a social occasion 965 00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:50,148 as perhaps it could have been. 966 00:40:59,257 --> 00:41:02,160 I was never that coordinated at sports. 967 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:04,029 As I've always enjoyed watching sports, 968 00:41:04,062 --> 00:41:05,531 but I was never that good at playing. 969 00:41:05,564 --> 00:41:07,074 And I think when it came to video games, 970 00:41:07,098 --> 00:41:08,366 I was good at them. 971 00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:10,311 And it was, you know, one of the first things I found 972 00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:11,779 that I was, you know, able to excel at. 973 00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:14,606 And so that's probably what drew me to it. 974 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,741 The first one was Frogger. 975 00:41:15,774 --> 00:41:17,475 I played and actually beat the score 976 00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:19,978 that was listed on Walter Day's record list. 977 00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:23,214 His hands were so cool, and his head was so cool, 978 00:41:23,248 --> 00:41:25,951 whereas I would be gripping ferociously to the joystick 979 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,185 trying to will it around. 980 00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:28,520 And so with Frogger, 981 00:41:28,554 --> 00:41:30,989 and again, my style was not to just go as fast as I can 982 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,057 and get to the home. 983 00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:34,492 My style was, take my time. 984 00:41:34,526 --> 00:41:36,695 If the traffic gets a little too busy at the front, 985 00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:38,697 back up and start over again. 986 00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:41,032 You know, there was enough time for me to be patient, 987 00:41:41,066 --> 00:41:42,333 make sure I do it right, 988 00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:44,936 and to not worry about going as fast as possible. 989 00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:47,939 He reminds me of a gunslinger who's got a cool hand, 990 00:41:47,973 --> 00:41:50,542 almost like a Clint Eastwood movie. 991 00:41:52,077 --> 00:41:53,077 Ooh! 992 00:41:54,379 --> 00:41:56,347 First of all, it involves a lot of time 993 00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:58,183 and particularly patience. 994 00:41:58,216 --> 00:41:59,184 I'm very organized, 995 00:41:59,217 --> 00:42:01,352 a very organized person. 996 00:42:01,386 --> 00:42:02,353 If I go on a trip, you know, 997 00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:03,789 I follow my list of what to bring. 998 00:42:03,822 --> 00:42:07,058 Back then I always kept track of my own personal top five songs. 999 00:42:07,092 --> 00:42:09,227 My number one song is Play That Funky Music. 1000 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,196 Three song is Ballroom Blitz, 1001 00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:12,898 Hammer, back when he was called MC Hammer, 1002 00:42:12,931 --> 00:42:14,600 some of the Tone-loc songs, 1003 00:42:14,633 --> 00:42:16,902 Wild Thing, you know, Funky Cold Medina. 1004 00:42:16,935 --> 00:42:18,704 I work really hard when I do work. 1005 00:42:18,737 --> 00:42:19,971 And so when I come home, 1006 00:42:20,005 --> 00:42:21,873 I'd like to be able to sit down in my recliner 1007 00:42:21,907 --> 00:42:23,742 and just think about not much. 1008 00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:29,781 You know, even as a little kid, 1009 00:42:29,815 --> 00:42:31,650 I liked to do things in a logical way. 1010 00:42:32,818 --> 00:42:34,653 You know, Mr. Spock was one of my idols. 1011 00:42:36,221 --> 00:42:40,058 And so I think for me, you know, it fit with my personality 1012 00:42:40,091 --> 00:42:46,164 of having patience and persistence. 1013 00:42:46,197 --> 00:42:48,266 Let me read this letter to you. 1014 00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:50,836 I think this is one of the funniest letters. 1015 00:42:50,869 --> 00:42:53,739 "I would like to enquire about my name in video games 1016 00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:56,074 "under the heading of high scores. 1017 00:42:56,107 --> 00:43:01,012 "My personal high score on Q-Bert is 287,000 points. 1018 00:43:01,046 --> 00:43:03,882 "I noticed you do not have a listing for Q-Bert. 1019 00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:05,183 "I was wondering if this is 1020 00:43:05,216 --> 00:43:08,219 "because you have not received word of any high scores. 1021 00:43:08,253 --> 00:43:10,297 "Also, do I need to have this high score made official, 1022 00:43:10,321 --> 00:43:11,556 "and how do I do it? 1023 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,591 I would appreciate you giving me this information." 1024 00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:15,060 And it says, 1025 00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:17,996 "your score isn't high enough to qualify as number one. 1026 00:43:18,029 --> 00:43:20,431 "Presently, Ben Gold of Dallas has that honor 1027 00:43:20,465 --> 00:43:26,271 with 17,899,325 points." 1028 00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:34,379 I thought that was really funny. 1029 00:43:34,412 --> 00:43:37,048 Okay. 1030 00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:40,752 Anyway... 1031 00:43:40,786 --> 00:43:43,254 Today on the video game challenge, 1032 00:43:43,288 --> 00:43:45,857 expert players share their winning secrets 1033 00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:47,392 and the championship match 1034 00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:50,595 between the world's highest scoring players on Millipede. 1035 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,597 Video games are sweeping the world, 1036 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:54,532 and the revolution is just beginning. 1037 00:43:54,565 --> 00:43:56,201 Practicing for this contest, 1038 00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:59,104 I was going at it about eight to ten hours a day 1039 00:43:59,137 --> 00:44:00,872 every day during Christmas break. 1040 00:44:00,906 --> 00:44:03,842 He was somebody that I always thought, under pressure, 1041 00:44:03,875 --> 00:44:06,044 was one of the toughest guys to beat. 1042 00:44:06,077 --> 00:44:09,214 He played in a Millipede contest against Eric Ginner. 1043 00:44:09,247 --> 00:44:10,548 Are the players ready? 1044 00:44:10,581 --> 00:44:13,752 All right, for the World Championship of Millipede, 1045 00:44:13,785 --> 00:44:16,154 three, two, one, shoot. 1046 00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:20,491 Eric was ahead of Ben, and Ben was on his last guy. 1047 00:44:20,525 --> 00:44:23,394 And he just wasn't gonna let Eric win. 1048 00:44:23,428 --> 00:44:26,264 And on that one last guy that he had... 1049 00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:30,035 It looks like Ben Gold may be in trouble in the high 800s. 1050 00:44:30,068 --> 00:44:31,803 He went 80,000 points. 1051 00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:34,305 And our winner is Ben Gold. 1052 00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:36,117 Eric, thank you very much for a terrific game. 1053 00:44:36,141 --> 00:44:38,209 Sorry it didn't turn out better. 1054 00:44:38,243 --> 00:44:40,645 And, Ben, you're the world champion Millipede shooter. 1055 00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:42,113 Here's the Millipede machine 1056 00:44:42,147 --> 00:44:45,116 that I won on in that competition. 1057 00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:50,221 June 23, 1983: 892,304 points. 1058 00:44:50,255 --> 00:44:53,091 When young Ben Gold decides to take on a video game, 1059 00:44:53,124 --> 00:44:54,793 he takes it on seriously. 1060 00:44:54,826 --> 00:44:57,128 At 16, he has mastered some of the most complex games 1061 00:44:57,162 --> 00:44:58,429 in the world. 1062 00:44:58,463 --> 00:45:00,598 Mythology surrounded Ben in what he did. 1063 00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:02,143 The rumors were, "hey, I heard that Ben 1064 00:45:02,167 --> 00:45:04,502 "had this special gurney made 1065 00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:08,039 where he can lean back and still be able to work the controls." 1066 00:45:08,073 --> 00:45:09,607 Even rumored that he would go into 1067 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,109 a semi kind of sleep. 1068 00:45:11,142 --> 00:45:13,244 Other guys would be talking smack or something, 1069 00:45:13,278 --> 00:45:15,256 and he would just get up and say, "no, you're wrong" 1070 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,581 and then show them. 1071 00:45:16,614 --> 00:45:18,516 What am I gonna do, walk around, you know, 1072 00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:22,553 "hey, I am the cool and groovy, you know, video game master. 1073 00:45:22,587 --> 00:45:23,621 Do you want to touch me?" 1074 00:45:23,654 --> 00:45:26,825 I thought he was the coolest guy ever. 1075 00:45:26,858 --> 00:45:30,061 At that point in time, I was flying blind. 1076 00:45:30,095 --> 00:45:32,697 I didn't know what could possibly come out of this. 1077 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,866 We got up there very early in the morning. 1078 00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,868 And for a while it was kind of cold. 1079 00:45:36,902 --> 00:45:38,970 And for a while it was kind of dark, 1080 00:45:39,004 --> 00:45:40,438 but then the sun began to come up. 1081 00:45:40,471 --> 00:45:41,973 Well, we were in the street. 1082 00:45:42,007 --> 00:45:43,641 They wanted to avoid traffic, 1083 00:45:43,674 --> 00:45:45,143 not that there was much in Ottumwa. 1084 00:45:45,176 --> 00:45:47,712 But more importantly is, I think where the sun was rising, 1085 00:45:47,745 --> 00:45:49,347 they didn't want to catch the sun... 1086 00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:50,949 Or Life magazine was really particular 1087 00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:52,383 in how they wanted to do... 1088 00:45:52,417 --> 00:45:54,352 This is the best sunlight for the picture. 1089 00:45:54,385 --> 00:45:57,288 We were supposed to be there at sunrise or something ridiculous. 1090 00:45:57,322 --> 00:45:59,224 Whenever we were there, it was freezing. 1091 00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:01,392 I mean, the saying, if you're from California, 1092 00:46:01,426 --> 00:46:02,736 anything that's 50 degrees or less, 1093 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,728 you wear your down jacket. 1094 00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:04,996 For me, that was true. 1095 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:07,332 Boy, you know, I felt cold wearing my down jacket. 1096 00:46:07,365 --> 00:46:09,543 And I saw these cheerleaders wearing their short skirts. 1097 00:46:09,567 --> 00:46:11,369 I thought, "they must be freezing." 1098 00:46:12,437 --> 00:46:13,839 I always wondered why Walter 1099 00:46:13,872 --> 00:46:15,306 didn't want to get in the picture. 1100 00:46:15,340 --> 00:46:17,475 The kids shouted for me to get in the photograph, 1101 00:46:17,508 --> 00:46:19,020 and I said, "no, no, this is your glory. 1102 00:46:19,044 --> 00:46:20,244 I'll stand here and watch it." 1103 00:46:52,277 --> 00:46:54,412 Life magazine was quite incredible. 1104 00:46:54,445 --> 00:46:55,847 I mean, as far as those players, 1105 00:46:55,881 --> 00:46:57,892 we just thought that was the best thing in the world. 1106 00:46:57,916 --> 00:46:59,885 Oh, yeah, it was an idyllic dream for them. 1107 00:46:59,918 --> 00:47:02,888 This is one of their biggest fantasy moments in their life. 1108 00:47:02,921 --> 00:47:05,156 Video game VIPs. 1109 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:06,824 I'd walk in the arcade. 1110 00:47:06,858 --> 00:47:08,293 People knew who I was. 1111 00:47:08,326 --> 00:47:09,928 They saw these tournaments. 1112 00:47:09,961 --> 00:47:11,196 They saw the TV shows. 1113 00:47:11,229 --> 00:47:13,131 They saw the Life magazine. 1114 00:47:13,164 --> 00:47:14,265 It was a big deal. 1115 00:47:14,299 --> 00:47:15,833 I would walk in supermarkets. 1116 00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:17,435 "Oh, you're Ben Gold." 1117 00:47:17,468 --> 00:47:19,804 Everywhere they went, people poured attention on them. 1118 00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:20,915 Girls fell in love with them. 1119 00:47:20,939 --> 00:47:22,273 Adventures happened to them. 1120 00:47:22,307 --> 00:47:24,175 I personally don't know anyone else 1121 00:47:24,209 --> 00:47:25,476 who's been in Life magazine. 1122 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:26,844 I just remember a few things. 1123 00:47:26,878 --> 00:47:28,856 God, I haven't looked at that picture in a long time. 1124 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,448 And if I had to do it all over again, 1125 00:47:30,481 --> 00:47:31,849 I would have been in the photograph 1126 00:47:31,883 --> 00:47:33,151 with my game in the lineup too, 1127 00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,552 which would have been Make Trax, 1128 00:47:34,585 --> 00:47:36,087 which I was the world champion of. 1129 00:47:36,121 --> 00:47:38,957 For video games, this is the equivalent 1130 00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:40,325 of the Sgt. Pepper's album. 1131 00:47:48,233 --> 00:47:51,102 I had no idea what this was gonna mean. 1132 00:47:51,136 --> 00:47:52,670 All I knew is I was having fun. 1133 00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:54,305 This was excitement. 1134 00:47:54,339 --> 00:47:58,609 It was something no other arcade probably has equaled since. 1135 00:47:58,643 --> 00:47:59,644 You need to be still. 1136 00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:02,113 Wait a second. 1137 00:48:05,984 --> 00:48:11,156 When somebody comes along that is good and challenges you, 1138 00:48:11,189 --> 00:48:13,224 that's iron sharpening iron. 1139 00:48:13,258 --> 00:48:16,227 It goes back to taking an ax and sharpening it 1140 00:48:16,261 --> 00:48:17,695 against a piece of iron. 1141 00:48:17,728 --> 00:48:20,331 That's the only way it's gonna become better, sharper. 1142 00:48:20,365 --> 00:48:23,168 And what Ron Bailey did for me, he sharpened me. 1143 00:48:23,201 --> 00:48:24,635 I hate to call him a father figure 1144 00:48:24,669 --> 00:48:26,371 if he doesn't want to be called that, 1145 00:48:26,404 --> 00:48:28,773 but he was a good mentor. 1146 00:48:28,806 --> 00:48:32,243 For some reason, I was eating breakfast up here in Shelby. 1147 00:48:32,277 --> 00:48:34,745 And I walked in, and there sat Joel. 1148 00:48:34,779 --> 00:48:37,082 He came in, and I was having breakfast. 1149 00:48:37,115 --> 00:48:38,683 I had met someone for breakfast, 1150 00:48:38,716 --> 00:48:41,286 a young lady I was trying to impress, you know. 1151 00:48:41,319 --> 00:48:43,955 Hadn't seen him in a while. 1152 00:48:43,989 --> 00:48:47,225 And he came off very arrogant and very braggadocios 1153 00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:51,229 and told me, he said, "I just beat your world record." 1154 00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:53,931 He was real upset. 1155 00:48:53,965 --> 00:48:56,667 There's some things you don't do. 1156 00:48:56,701 --> 00:49:00,871 You don't put a man down in front of his girl. 1157 00:49:00,905 --> 00:49:04,542 And I have not seen him since that day. 1158 00:49:04,575 --> 00:49:07,712 I haven't talked to him in over 20 years. 1159 00:49:07,745 --> 00:49:09,547 I didn't know if he was still around. 1160 00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:12,550 I was told he was in Gastonia. 1161 00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:15,320 Probably less than 30 miles. 1162 00:49:15,353 --> 00:49:17,088 It's amazing. 1163 00:49:17,122 --> 00:49:21,959 That's why I say it's so bizarre, some of the episodes. 1164 00:49:21,993 --> 00:49:23,561 I would put such great importance 1165 00:49:23,594 --> 00:49:24,829 on these kind of things, 1166 00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:26,640 and they'd stick in your mind like this but... 1167 00:49:26,664 --> 00:49:29,067 They say I'm gonna meet him tomorrow. 1168 00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:30,468 And I look forward to that. 1169 00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:31,836 I figure we'll go in, 1170 00:49:31,869 --> 00:49:33,338 and we'll trash talk a little bit 1171 00:49:33,371 --> 00:49:35,706 and get down to some playing 1172 00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:38,543 and see if the camaraderie is still there 1173 00:49:38,576 --> 00:49:41,179 or if the competitiveness has made us, you know, 1174 00:49:41,212 --> 00:49:44,215 rivals or something. 1175 00:49:52,423 --> 00:49:56,227 The power is coming on once I turn it on, 1176 00:49:56,261 --> 00:50:02,067 but the screen is cycling, but it's not wanting to come on. 1177 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,169 Ron's an engineer. 1178 00:50:04,202 --> 00:50:06,003 He's a ham radio operator, 1179 00:50:06,037 --> 00:50:08,406 so I figure he would have more experience 1180 00:50:08,439 --> 00:50:09,640 in doing something like this. 1181 00:50:09,674 --> 00:50:11,314 And since maybe we're gonna battle anyway, 1182 00:50:11,342 --> 00:50:12,943 maybe our two machines can become one 1183 00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:14,912 or something after 20 years. 1184 00:50:16,214 --> 00:50:17,654 It's gonna be interesting to see him, 1185 00:50:17,682 --> 00:50:19,793 you know, you have this picture of someone in your mind, 1186 00:50:19,817 --> 00:50:26,391 how they looked 20, 22 years ago. 1187 00:50:26,424 --> 00:50:31,896 I'm the age now that he was the last time I saw him. 1188 00:50:31,929 --> 00:50:34,632 It's gonna be interesting. 1189 00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:49,914 That's the house, 'cause there's the radio towers. 1190 00:51:15,373 --> 00:51:18,176 The first time Chris and I met I was playing Ms. Pac-man, 1191 00:51:18,209 --> 00:51:19,710 and he was looking over my shoulder. 1192 00:51:19,744 --> 00:51:20,811 I finished five boards. 1193 00:51:20,845 --> 00:51:21,946 He says, "wow." 1194 00:51:21,979 --> 00:51:22,947 He sat down next to me. 1195 00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:24,149 He put a quarter in, and bang. 1196 00:51:24,182 --> 00:51:26,751 He had 776,000 on the first shot. 1197 00:51:26,784 --> 00:51:27,918 It's in your DNA. 1198 00:51:27,952 --> 00:51:29,454 You have it, or you don't. 1199 00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:33,691 He is every reason why I am the video game champion. 1200 00:51:33,724 --> 00:51:35,360 Everything I've done I owe to him. 1201 00:51:35,393 --> 00:51:37,928 If I hadn't met him, if we hadn't pushed each other, 1202 00:51:37,962 --> 00:51:39,730 I would not have achieved what I've achieved, 1203 00:51:39,764 --> 00:51:41,466 similar to Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa 1204 00:51:41,499 --> 00:51:42,900 in the home run derby. 1205 00:51:42,933 --> 00:51:45,403 This pattern is called tunnel terror. 1206 00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:48,506 It's called that because it's considered the safest pattern. 1207 00:51:48,539 --> 00:51:53,511 It's 56 seconds long, and 28 of the 56 seconds, 1208 00:51:53,544 --> 00:51:57,215 the three priority monsters are in the tunnel. 1209 00:51:57,248 --> 00:52:00,751 As long as you're in the tunnel, they can't do you any harm. 1210 00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:03,888 That's exactly one half of the maze. 1211 00:52:03,921 --> 00:52:06,557 They get put in the tunnel here, 1212 00:52:06,591 --> 00:52:09,727 and they just continually get pushed back and forth. 1213 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,729 The only reason they're let out of the tunnel 1214 00:52:11,762 --> 00:52:13,531 for any period of time 1215 00:52:13,564 --> 00:52:16,567 is when we have to get the key in the center of the screen. 1216 00:52:16,601 --> 00:52:18,303 The key in the center of the screen we need 1217 00:52:18,336 --> 00:52:20,605 simply 'cause we need the points. 1218 00:52:20,638 --> 00:52:23,641 Otherwise we just keep them locked in the tunnel. 1219 00:52:23,674 --> 00:52:25,142 So we got the key, 1220 00:52:25,176 --> 00:52:28,513 and now we're gonna send them back in the tunnel. 1221 00:52:28,546 --> 00:52:34,519 Again, they spend their life in the tunnel. 1222 00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:42,927 That was close. 1223 00:52:45,095 --> 00:52:47,332 Well, I started playing Missile Command 1224 00:52:47,365 --> 00:52:50,401 because it was put into the lobby of my student dorm 1225 00:52:50,435 --> 00:52:52,537 at the university co-op at UCLA, 1226 00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:54,305 'cause when people were playing video games, 1227 00:52:54,339 --> 00:52:55,873 they say, "oh, you're awesome." 1228 00:52:55,906 --> 00:52:57,618 And I was kind of like... And all of a sudden, 1229 00:52:57,642 --> 00:52:59,886 some girl pinched me on the ass and called me Mr. Awesome. 1230 00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:01,279 And it kind of, like, stuck on. 1231 00:53:01,312 --> 00:53:02,647 So I liked it after that. 1232 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,016 It's like a psychological escape place for me. 1233 00:53:06,050 --> 00:53:08,018 It's where I pretend I'm king of the world, 1234 00:53:08,052 --> 00:53:09,796 you know, who can get any chick that he wants, 1235 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,289 and he's a video game stud. 1236 00:53:11,322 --> 00:53:12,399 And he walks down the street, 1237 00:53:12,423 --> 00:53:13,791 and everyone wants his autograph. 1238 00:53:13,824 --> 00:53:15,264 I mean, everybody wants to be famous. 1239 00:53:15,293 --> 00:53:17,161 I mean, everybody wants to be somebody special. 1240 00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:20,431 I mean, you know, unless they're walking around 1241 00:53:20,465 --> 00:53:21,708 without a pair of balls, I mean. 1242 00:53:21,732 --> 00:53:24,134 This book is in fact the most important 1243 00:53:24,168 --> 00:53:26,537 literary accomplishment in American history, 1244 00:53:26,571 --> 00:53:29,940 because it reveals the truth about success in America today. 1245 00:53:29,974 --> 00:53:31,742 You know, America is a country of immigrants, 1246 00:53:31,776 --> 00:53:34,345 and immigrants is what make this country great. 1247 00:53:34,379 --> 00:53:36,747 The most successful immigrant this country has ever had 1248 00:53:36,781 --> 00:53:38,549 is in fact Arnold Schwarzenegger. 1249 00:53:38,583 --> 00:53:41,185 The Mr. Awesome program is kind of like an expose 1250 00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:44,722 on exactly the footsteps that Arnold used to be successful. 1251 00:53:44,755 --> 00:53:46,624 And not many people really notice. 1252 00:53:46,657 --> 00:53:48,926 I mean, I don't have any direct proof of it, 1253 00:53:48,959 --> 00:53:51,662 but he made his entire fortune 1254 00:53:51,696 --> 00:53:53,798 as a drug dealer and a prostitute. 1255 00:53:53,831 --> 00:53:56,200 Yeah, I'm being serious. 1256 00:53:56,233 --> 00:53:58,102 All these players will be on That's Incredible. 1257 00:53:58,135 --> 00:53:59,470 In Life magazine, 1258 00:53:59,504 --> 00:54:01,739 they did announce there was gonna be this competition. 1259 00:54:01,772 --> 00:54:03,684 And whoever wins gets to go on That's Incredible! 1260 00:54:03,708 --> 00:54:05,376 You may not ultimately win. 1261 00:54:05,410 --> 00:54:06,511 If you're in the top three, 1262 00:54:06,544 --> 00:54:07,912 you get to go on That's Incredible! 1263 00:54:07,945 --> 00:54:09,113 Like, whatever. 1264 00:54:09,146 --> 00:54:11,015 That's Incredible! Was incredible. 1265 00:54:11,048 --> 00:54:12,717 It was a great show. 1266 00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:15,653 When I was asked to go to the That's Incredible tournament, 1267 00:54:15,686 --> 00:54:17,322 it was the highlight of my career. 1268 00:54:17,355 --> 00:54:19,490 People outside looking in through the windows, 1269 00:54:19,524 --> 00:54:21,826 watching all of us. 1270 00:54:21,859 --> 00:54:23,461 I was wearing a hooded gray sweatshirt, 1271 00:54:23,494 --> 00:54:25,763 and I'm looking in as if, like, you know, 1272 00:54:25,796 --> 00:54:27,374 it's like the coolest thing in the world. 1273 00:54:27,398 --> 00:54:29,634 Ottumwa teens have spent about a thousand hours 1274 00:54:29,667 --> 00:54:32,337 since Christmas building a computer network 1275 00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:34,104 that made Twin Galaxies scoreboard 1276 00:54:34,138 --> 00:54:35,673 a marvel of high tech. 1277 00:54:35,706 --> 00:54:37,475 On your mark. 1278 00:54:37,508 --> 00:54:38,543 Get set. 1279 00:54:38,576 --> 00:54:40,277 Go. 1280 00:54:40,311 --> 00:54:41,278 Oh, it was very intense. 1281 00:54:41,312 --> 00:54:42,447 People were very focused. 1282 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,382 People were very serious about the competition. 1283 00:54:44,415 --> 00:54:45,816 I wanted so much to do well 1284 00:54:45,850 --> 00:54:49,487 and get on the actual stage TV show. 1285 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,789 It's really easy to mess the tournament up. 1286 00:54:51,822 --> 00:54:54,058 You either qualified in one of those three places, 1287 00:54:54,091 --> 00:54:55,560 or you went home. 1288 00:54:55,593 --> 00:54:58,095 The games were set on their hard setting, and one chance. 1289 00:54:58,128 --> 00:55:00,565 It was so close 1290 00:55:00,598 --> 00:55:03,834 that no one knew who had won except me. 1291 00:55:03,868 --> 00:55:06,203 After all five games being completed, 1292 00:55:06,236 --> 00:55:07,838 here are the top finalists. 1293 00:55:07,872 --> 00:55:09,474 Ben Gold. 1294 00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:11,942 Well, I thought I was doomed right before the Frogger. 1295 00:55:11,976 --> 00:55:13,344 But then everyone choked. 1296 00:55:13,378 --> 00:55:16,747 Darren Olson, Todd Walker. 1297 00:55:16,781 --> 00:55:18,349 In Iowa I was first. 1298 00:55:18,383 --> 00:55:20,518 Darren came in second, and I came in third. 1299 00:55:20,551 --> 00:55:21,752 That's Incredible! 1300 00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:28,359 I remember going to the studio. 1301 00:55:28,393 --> 00:55:29,460 That was real fun. 1302 00:55:29,494 --> 00:55:31,729 We got to eat with the stars, 1303 00:55:31,762 --> 00:55:34,632 Cathy Lee Crosby, John Davidson, Fran Tarkenton 1304 00:55:34,665 --> 00:55:36,667 right at our table, right across from us. 1305 00:55:36,701 --> 00:55:40,237 There was either four or five games that were on stage. 1306 00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:41,906 This game is called Burgertime. 1307 00:55:41,939 --> 00:55:45,342 The pickles, there was, like, an egg 1308 00:55:45,376 --> 00:55:47,311 that would run around and chase... 1309 00:55:47,344 --> 00:55:49,146 Yeah, he'd throw salt. 1310 00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:51,882 Or, no, no, he throws pepper at the various food items 1311 00:55:51,916 --> 00:55:54,284 that are chasing him in order to shock them 1312 00:55:54,318 --> 00:55:56,296 and make them sort of, like, stop for a little while 1313 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,157 so he has a little more time to go and do the burger making. 1314 00:56:00,190 --> 00:56:02,359 Burgertime I had never played before. 1315 00:56:02,393 --> 00:56:04,895 And both Ben and Todd had. 1316 00:56:04,929 --> 00:56:07,064 And I remember approaching them and asking them, 1317 00:56:07,097 --> 00:56:09,567 "can you guys just show me a little bit something on there?" 1318 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,368 And both of them say, "absolutely not. 1319 00:56:11,402 --> 00:56:13,337 It's Canada against the U.S." 1320 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:17,041 Let's welcome Darren Olson from Calgary, Alberta, in Canada; 1321 00:56:17,074 --> 00:56:20,344 Todd Walker, from Milpitas, California; 1322 00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:22,847 And Ben Gold, from Dallas, Texas. 1323 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,148 There was an audience. 1324 00:56:24,181 --> 00:56:26,984 And we did it, like, a live filming. 1325 00:56:27,017 --> 00:56:28,018 On your mark. 1326 00:56:28,052 --> 00:56:29,954 Get set. 1327 00:56:29,987 --> 00:56:30,988 Go. 1328 00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:32,423 It was really intense. 1329 00:56:32,457 --> 00:56:34,391 There was no sense of friendship. 1330 00:56:34,425 --> 00:56:36,060 It was... everybody was an enemy. 1331 00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:37,828 Todd was the best player. 1332 00:56:37,862 --> 00:56:39,997 You know, and at that point in time, 1333 00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:41,799 he was the best player in all of the U.S. 1334 00:56:41,832 --> 00:56:45,536 I had to perform at my peak and had to have some people 1335 00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:46,804 perform below their peaks 1336 00:56:46,837 --> 00:56:49,206 in order to win this competition. 1337 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,542 I misfired on a Burgertime. 1338 00:56:51,576 --> 00:56:52,986 I think it was a salt or pepper shaker 1339 00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:54,378 or something, you know. 1340 00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:56,380 Todd's about to make a costly mistake. 1341 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:57,848 The pepper's in the wrong direction, 1342 00:56:57,882 --> 00:56:59,383 and loses the chef. 1343 00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:02,620 Is every gold medalist the best player in their sport? 1344 00:57:02,653 --> 00:57:03,888 Maybe not. 1345 00:57:03,921 --> 00:57:07,625 But in that one moment in time, they were the best. 1346 00:57:07,658 --> 00:57:10,227 He's got it. 1347 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:11,500 Anybody could have won any day. 1348 00:57:11,529 --> 00:57:12,630 Darren was just as good. 1349 00:57:12,663 --> 00:57:13,964 It would have made no difference. 1350 00:57:13,998 --> 00:57:15,866 I ended up getting through it. 1351 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:17,602 But I ended up getting third place 1352 00:57:17,635 --> 00:57:22,707 instead of what I was hoping for was a first. 1353 00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:28,679 I know how a famous person feels, because, like, 1354 00:57:28,713 --> 00:57:30,247 "click, click, click, click, click," 1355 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,551 you know, a hundred flashes in, you know, in ten seconds, 1356 00:57:33,584 --> 00:57:36,453 just the entire place just flashing pictures. 1357 00:57:36,487 --> 00:57:37,855 I mean, anytime that I did anything 1358 00:57:37,888 --> 00:57:38,989 in the video game world, 1359 00:57:39,023 --> 00:57:40,758 it was like, "world champion Ben Gold, 1360 00:57:40,791 --> 00:57:42,960 blah, blah, blah, blah." 1361 00:57:42,993 --> 00:57:44,595 I'm like, "yeah, whatever." 1362 00:57:50,801 --> 00:57:53,871 In February of '83, the phone rang. 1363 00:57:53,904 --> 00:57:56,707 And it was a man from a company called meeting planners, 1364 00:57:56,741 --> 00:57:57,808 which was in Boston. 1365 00:57:57,842 --> 00:57:59,109 His name was Jim Reilly, 1366 00:57:59,143 --> 00:58:01,812 and explained to me that he had stayed up all night 1367 00:58:01,846 --> 00:58:03,781 thinking about this creative idea 1368 00:58:03,814 --> 00:58:05,850 for doing an electronic circus. 1369 00:58:05,883 --> 00:58:08,152 Almost like a video game theme park 1370 00:58:08,185 --> 00:58:09,787 in different cities around the country. 1371 00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:12,489 Like the big car shows that go from city to city. 1372 00:58:12,523 --> 00:58:13,924 I would be the ring master, 1373 00:58:13,958 --> 00:58:16,193 and my superstars would be an actual circus act. 1374 00:58:16,226 --> 00:58:18,663 People could and challenge the video game players, 1375 00:58:18,696 --> 00:58:20,006 try to beat us on our world records 1376 00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:21,999 or at least have fun trying, anyway. 1377 00:58:22,032 --> 00:58:24,869 They were gonna start paying us to play. 1378 00:58:24,902 --> 00:58:27,071 It was easy to think it would be like a sport. 1379 00:58:27,104 --> 00:58:28,505 Playing video games for a living? 1380 00:58:28,539 --> 00:58:30,708 Going from town to town playing video games. 1381 00:58:30,741 --> 00:58:32,276 It was kind of like a dream job. 1382 00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:34,545 And then when somebody actually put us on a plane 1383 00:58:34,579 --> 00:58:36,557 and flew us to Boston, "well, maybe this could be." 1384 00:58:36,581 --> 00:58:39,216 Boston ruled. 1385 00:58:57,401 --> 00:58:59,637 And they had hundreds, like, 500 games. 1386 00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,438 The battle of the superstars, 1387 00:59:01,471 --> 00:59:04,008 video game champions from across the United States 1388 00:59:04,041 --> 00:59:05,710 compete daily to set new high scores. 1389 00:59:05,743 --> 00:59:07,712 They had different little theme areas, 1390 00:59:07,745 --> 00:59:09,413 so if they'd have, like, say, Donkey Kong, 1391 00:59:09,446 --> 00:59:11,181 we'd be, like, in a jungle room. 1392 00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:13,584 Plus they were gonna have rock bands there. 1393 00:59:13,618 --> 00:59:15,219 Air supply was there. 1394 00:59:15,252 --> 00:59:17,287 If I remember right, we had a curfew. 1395 00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:22,392 And we had beer cans and stuff stacked all up. 1396 00:59:25,462 --> 00:59:26,840 But, I mean, like, they would, like, 1397 00:59:26,864 --> 00:59:28,198 drop firecrackers in the toilet. 1398 00:59:28,232 --> 00:59:29,776 I remember them saying that if, you know, 1399 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,578 if we do anything like that, we're kicked off. 1400 00:59:31,602 --> 00:59:33,938 And within our contract it specifically stated 1401 00:59:33,971 --> 00:59:36,073 how it was we had to conduct ourselves with groupies. 1402 00:59:36,106 --> 00:59:37,274 It was kind of crazy. 1403 00:59:37,307 --> 00:59:39,076 We were all, you know, late-teen boys. 1404 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:40,845 It was kind of typical, I guess. 1405 00:59:40,878 --> 00:59:44,581 "Therefore, I, Kevin H. White, urge the citizens of Boston 1406 00:59:44,615 --> 00:59:46,917 to recognize this special occasion." 1407 00:59:46,951 --> 00:59:47,952 They didn't. 1408 00:59:47,985 --> 00:59:49,754 Very few people showed up. 1409 00:59:49,787 --> 00:59:51,889 It didn't last much more than five days. 1410 00:59:51,922 --> 00:59:53,390 And it was very obvious. 1411 00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:55,525 That first day, then the second day, nobody. 1412 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,795 So they literally just closed everything down. 1413 00:59:57,828 --> 01:00:00,530 They told us we were gonna have to pay for our own ticket home, 1414 01:00:00,564 --> 01:00:02,244 and they were gonna take it out of our pay. 1415 01:00:03,167 --> 01:00:04,769 So it got kind of crummy at that point. 1416 01:00:04,802 --> 01:00:09,840 That was the one that really just literally 1417 01:00:09,874 --> 01:00:13,010 just kind of crushed all my dreams. 1418 01:00:13,043 --> 01:00:16,280 I think partly 'cause of, whatever, naivety of the age 1419 01:00:16,313 --> 01:00:17,953 but also because it was a brand-new thing, 1420 01:00:17,982 --> 01:00:19,549 and nobody knew what it would become. 1421 01:00:19,583 --> 01:00:23,353 My entire career as a professional video game player, 1422 01:00:23,387 --> 01:00:25,823 it mostly was about hopes and dreams and plans. 1423 01:00:25,856 --> 01:00:27,958 It never was about any real money. 1424 01:00:27,992 --> 01:00:31,561 And who knows why each thing would crash and burn? 1425 01:00:31,595 --> 01:00:32,997 But we're still moving forward, 1426 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:34,675 and I'm still putting foot in front of foot 1427 01:00:34,699 --> 01:00:35,733 in front of foot, 1428 01:00:35,766 --> 01:00:37,177 and I accept the whole fun experience 1429 01:00:37,201 --> 01:00:39,469 on the level of the adventure it is. 1430 01:01:14,805 --> 01:01:17,141 We both share the same passion for the industry. 1431 01:01:17,174 --> 01:01:19,877 And we certainly both share the same passion for history 1432 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:21,912 and that history is worth preserving. 1433 01:01:21,946 --> 01:01:25,082 Here in Washington, we're gonna go to the Library of Congress. 1434 01:01:25,115 --> 01:01:27,484 'Cause they have magazines like Play Meter and Vending Times 1435 01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:29,019 and Cashbox and Billboard 1436 01:01:29,053 --> 01:01:31,555 that have all these historic moments. 1437 01:01:31,588 --> 01:01:33,490 The whole history of video games are there. 1438 01:01:38,295 --> 01:01:41,331 "Newspaper urges pinball to describe bagatelle." 1439 01:01:41,365 --> 01:01:42,508 This is right at the beginning 1440 01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:44,444 when they first started using the word "pinball." 1441 01:01:44,468 --> 01:01:46,536 We're the first people to revisit the long, 1442 01:01:46,570 --> 01:01:48,739 glorious history of electronic gaming, 1443 01:01:48,773 --> 01:01:52,142 just like you find happening to the history of the NFL 1444 01:01:52,176 --> 01:01:54,912 or the history of the NHL or baseball history. 1445 01:01:54,945 --> 01:01:57,081 It's bigger than movies. 1446 01:01:57,114 --> 01:01:58,282 It's bigger than music. 1447 01:01:58,315 --> 01:02:00,517 It's the biggest business in America. 1448 01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:02,352 It's only gonna continue to grow. 1449 01:02:02,386 --> 01:02:03,620 It grows each and every year. 1450 01:02:03,653 --> 01:02:07,758 So not to capture the history of that would be sinful. 1451 01:02:07,792 --> 01:02:10,527 There's no way our book could go to press without coming here 1452 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,629 and going page by page in all these magazines, 1453 01:02:12,662 --> 01:02:14,474 not knowing where we were gonna find the story, 1454 01:02:14,498 --> 01:02:15,665 but just looking for them 1455 01:02:15,699 --> 01:02:17,434 and getting all that stuff that would finish 1456 01:02:17,467 --> 01:02:19,203 our book of records. 1457 01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:23,941 I often feel guilt that I'm out going and doing 1458 01:02:23,974 --> 01:02:25,542 this video game stuff 1459 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:29,313 when I know that it would really be much more beneficial 1460 01:02:29,346 --> 01:02:34,819 to the world having a music career and writing my novels. 1461 01:02:34,852 --> 01:02:37,855 That's right, it's popcorn. 1462 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,269 Yeah, we were under the gun four times last year 1463 01:02:52,302 --> 01:02:54,939 with the hurricanes that had gone through. 1464 01:02:54,972 --> 01:02:56,506 And, oh, look at that. 1465 01:02:56,540 --> 01:02:57,540 Uh. 1466 01:03:03,413 --> 01:03:06,150 The last year it rained so hard, when the wind kicked up, 1467 01:03:06,183 --> 01:03:08,886 it blew the carport back like a tuna can. 1468 01:03:08,919 --> 01:03:11,922 It looks like shit. 1469 01:03:14,424 --> 01:03:15,459 They sell you the stuff. 1470 01:03:15,492 --> 01:03:17,494 And I would like to program some some day 1471 01:03:17,527 --> 01:03:19,167 and make people... When they see my games... 1472 01:03:19,196 --> 01:03:20,264 They're going to buy them 1473 01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:21,937 just as much as they buy these cartridges. 1474 01:03:21,966 --> 01:03:24,568 So you want to get in the business then, huh? 1475 01:03:24,601 --> 01:03:26,470 And play my own games if I make any. 1476 01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:28,638 Yeah, yeah, you got some ideas? 1477 01:03:28,672 --> 01:03:29,639 I got a few. 1478 01:03:29,673 --> 01:03:30,640 I don't know. 1479 01:03:30,674 --> 01:03:31,842 I don't know. 1480 01:03:31,876 --> 01:03:33,944 I really don't know where it went downhill. 1481 01:03:33,978 --> 01:03:36,881 Alls I know is, the magazine went belly-up. 1482 01:03:36,914 --> 01:03:38,448 I stopped receiving money from them. 1483 01:03:38,482 --> 01:03:39,716 The joysticks that I endorsed, 1484 01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:42,786 they only came out with three or four joysticks. 1485 01:03:42,819 --> 01:03:44,754 You know, I had to improvise. 1486 01:03:44,788 --> 01:03:47,357 I had to do other work besides playing video games. 1487 01:03:47,391 --> 01:03:48,558 It was fun while it lasted. 1488 01:03:48,592 --> 01:03:50,460 Game, reality, two different things. 1489 01:03:50,494 --> 01:03:52,762 My wife was having people live in my house. 1490 01:03:52,796 --> 01:03:54,198 She had 15 different people. 1491 01:03:54,231 --> 01:03:56,666 I'm not paying a mortgage for people to live in my house. 1492 01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:58,879 The car that I had was a Neon, which was a real piece of shit, 1493 01:03:58,903 --> 01:04:00,070 'cause I got laid off. 1494 01:04:00,104 --> 01:04:01,814 And six months later on, I was in an auto wreck. 1495 01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,140 Broke my clavicle. 1496 01:04:03,173 --> 01:04:04,384 And I was spitting out my teeth. 1497 01:04:04,408 --> 01:04:05,976 "Oh, it's raining, but it's red." 1498 01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:07,677 Flatlined for 28 seconds. 1499 01:04:07,711 --> 01:04:09,213 Shock paddled me back to life. 1500 01:04:09,246 --> 01:04:10,290 You know, I lost my brother. 1501 01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:11,281 He drowned. 1502 01:04:11,315 --> 01:04:12,282 After our house burnt, 1503 01:04:12,316 --> 01:04:13,593 my dog got ran over by a squad car. 1504 01:04:13,617 --> 01:04:14,584 Lost a wife. 1505 01:04:14,618 --> 01:04:15,585 She overdosed. 1506 01:04:15,619 --> 01:04:16,753 Holy Christmas. 1507 01:04:16,786 --> 01:04:18,598 I feel like one of those country western songs. 1508 01:04:18,622 --> 01:04:19,589 Just don't play it back. 1509 01:04:19,623 --> 01:04:20,590 I don't need it, you know? 1510 01:04:20,624 --> 01:04:21,858 It's done. 1511 01:04:21,892 --> 01:04:23,827 And my late wife knew nothing of my video past. 1512 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,930 I just told them absolutely zilch. 1513 01:04:25,963 --> 01:04:27,173 I didn't think it was important, 1514 01:04:27,197 --> 01:04:28,999 because I was in an abusive relationship. 1515 01:04:29,033 --> 01:04:30,300 I mean, she'd get drunk. 1516 01:04:30,334 --> 01:04:31,701 You know, they love you one minute, 1517 01:04:31,735 --> 01:04:32,812 "get the fuck out," the next. 1518 01:04:32,836 --> 01:04:34,414 Who the hell wants to hear shit like that? 1519 01:04:34,438 --> 01:04:36,606 So I figured, "anything that's important to me", 1520 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,985 "anything that makes me happy, she's not gonna know about it, 1521 01:04:39,009 --> 01:04:40,887 "because she'll use it against me and throw it out, 1522 01:04:40,911 --> 01:04:41,988 burn it, sell it, whatever." 1523 01:04:42,012 --> 01:04:43,013 Then after she died, 1524 01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:44,581 I have no more leash over my head. 1525 01:04:44,614 --> 01:04:47,284 I don't have to explain myself to anyone. 1526 01:04:47,317 --> 01:04:50,220 If myself is unwinding and playing video games, 1527 01:04:50,254 --> 01:04:52,156 playing with spiders, or looking at spiders, 1528 01:04:52,189 --> 01:04:54,691 feeding the spiders, then that's me, you know. 1529 01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:58,462 It's something to get your mind off of what's wrong, 1530 01:04:58,495 --> 01:05:00,697 because you know once the game is done, 1531 01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:02,299 you have to go back to the sad reality 1532 01:05:02,332 --> 01:05:03,800 of what your life is at that point 1533 01:05:03,833 --> 01:05:05,202 if it's bad or good. 1534 01:05:05,235 --> 01:05:07,972 Oh, this is my room, and this is where I sleep on the floor. 1535 01:05:08,005 --> 01:05:09,549 I usually have my blankets arranged here 1536 01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,675 so I'm in the middle so I don't bump into anything. 1537 01:05:11,708 --> 01:05:13,353 As you can tell, I have quite a bit of fans, 1538 01:05:13,377 --> 01:05:14,687 'cause I like air being blown on me 1539 01:05:14,711 --> 01:05:16,246 when I'm sleeping to be comfortable. 1540 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,350 I think video games has offered me the opportunity to shine out 1541 01:05:20,384 --> 01:05:24,921 amongst other people and say, "hey, I have a niche in life." 1542 01:05:24,955 --> 01:05:28,592 It's actually brought me out of being a nobody. 1543 01:05:28,625 --> 01:05:30,160 You know, you'd ask the general public, 1544 01:05:30,194 --> 01:05:32,829 they probably wouldn't know me from shit from Shinola, 1545 01:05:32,862 --> 01:05:35,799 but in the video gaming world, I'm somebody. 1546 01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:43,772 Oh, my gosh. 1547 01:05:45,342 --> 01:05:46,776 I'm twice the size I used to be. 1548 01:05:46,810 --> 01:05:48,045 This is unreal. 1549 01:05:48,078 --> 01:05:49,046 RKB. 1550 01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:50,914 I thought I recognized your voice. 1551 01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:52,082 Sit down. 1552 01:05:52,116 --> 01:05:53,994 I was just headed uptown to do some errands here. 1553 01:05:54,018 --> 01:05:57,021 But you're welcome to stay a while. 1554 01:05:57,054 --> 01:05:59,089 What have you been doing with yourself? 1555 01:05:59,123 --> 01:06:01,358 Well, gained a little weight. 1556 01:06:01,391 --> 01:06:03,027 Yeah, well, me too. 1557 01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:05,795 I don't usually keep grudges or anything. 1558 01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:08,032 Life took us in different directions. 1559 01:06:08,065 --> 01:06:12,536 When I met Ron Bailey in that video game arcade that day 1560 01:06:12,569 --> 01:06:14,838 and he showed interest in what I was doing, 1561 01:06:14,871 --> 01:06:16,340 I felt important again. 1562 01:06:16,373 --> 01:06:19,909 You know, how important in the overall picture of life 1563 01:06:19,943 --> 01:06:21,945 is him learning how to play Berzerk 1564 01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,914 versus the guidance he gave me that, you know, 1565 01:06:24,948 --> 01:06:27,184 helped me make better decisions? 1566 01:06:27,217 --> 01:06:28,852 Well, probably not much, 1567 01:06:28,885 --> 01:06:30,820 but it's what he wanted at the time. 1568 01:06:30,854 --> 01:06:33,790 Now, this guy in Florida who... 1569 01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:34,958 Don't get me started. 1570 01:06:34,991 --> 01:06:36,126 Who took the record, 1571 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,695 well, I've issued a challenge to him 1572 01:06:38,728 --> 01:06:40,297 that he needs to play one of us, 1573 01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:42,766 because what I have said is simply this, 1574 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:45,702 that the man, if you could call him that 1575 01:06:45,735 --> 01:06:46,903 because of what he did, 1576 01:06:46,936 --> 01:06:48,772 the man broke the spirit of the game. 1577 01:06:50,174 --> 01:06:51,675 Chris has a strategy he uses 1578 01:06:51,708 --> 01:06:56,012 which is known as the box pattern. 1579 01:06:56,046 --> 01:06:57,347 It loops around so you can go 1580 01:06:57,381 --> 01:07:00,450 from grid one, two, three, and four and back again. 1581 01:07:00,484 --> 01:07:03,420 The robots will always be in the same starting positions. 1582 01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:05,822 We respected the game enough not to do that, 1583 01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:10,227 because we felt that that was not in the spirit of the game. 1584 01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:12,396 I think maybe he was a little bit shocked that... 1585 01:07:12,429 --> 01:07:13,863 Not that his score got beaten, 1586 01:07:13,897 --> 01:07:17,601 but that it got beaten by such a tremendous amount, double. 1587 01:07:17,634 --> 01:07:19,269 He has the top score on paper, 1588 01:07:19,303 --> 01:07:21,047 but he's not a better Berzerk player than I am. 1589 01:07:21,071 --> 01:07:23,240 So you're gonna see it's the same four boards 1590 01:07:23,273 --> 01:07:24,341 over and over again. 1591 01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:25,509 That is not a Berzerk player. 1592 01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:26,943 That's a monkey. 1593 01:07:26,976 --> 01:07:31,981 You can teach a monkey how to play a certain number of rooms. 1594 01:07:32,015 --> 01:07:36,786 But you cannot teach a man how to play Berzerk. 1595 01:07:42,025 --> 01:07:42,992 Ready for me to plug it in? 1596 01:07:43,026 --> 01:07:43,993 Yeah. 1597 01:07:44,027 --> 01:07:48,031 All right. 1598 01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:49,399 All right, there we go. 1599 01:07:49,433 --> 01:07:50,734 Look out. 1600 01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:52,136 Whoa, look out. 1601 01:07:52,169 --> 01:07:53,603 It's trying to cycle. 1602 01:07:53,637 --> 01:07:55,004 It is? 1603 01:07:55,038 --> 01:07:57,607 Mm-hmm. 1604 01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:03,180 My finger's getting sore. 1605 01:08:04,714 --> 01:08:06,015 Well, we're gonna see right here 1606 01:08:06,049 --> 01:08:09,586 if we have a vision of high scores. 1607 01:08:10,587 --> 01:08:12,789 Well, don't expect me... 1608 01:08:12,822 --> 01:08:15,024 The fact of the matter is that, you know, 1609 01:08:15,058 --> 01:08:16,502 if they dropped a bomb here right now, 1610 01:08:16,526 --> 01:08:18,671 the two best Berzerk players in the world would be gone. 1611 01:08:18,695 --> 01:08:21,064 That's true. 1612 01:08:24,801 --> 01:08:26,936 I don't necessarily like to talk about this, 1613 01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:28,438 'cause it makes me really sad. 1614 01:08:28,472 --> 01:08:30,039 And Moon Patrol was the first game that, 1615 01:08:30,073 --> 01:08:32,409 like, you could put a quarter in and continue your game. 1616 01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:35,078 You could continue on at the level you just left. 1617 01:08:35,111 --> 01:08:37,747 And that was an incentive to keep on playing that game. 1618 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,816 He who has a machine that can get 1619 01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:41,551 more people sticking quarters in, 1620 01:08:41,585 --> 01:08:43,753 those are the ones that are gonna make money. 1621 01:08:43,787 --> 01:08:45,589 I felt like it was kind of cheating 1622 01:08:45,622 --> 01:08:46,832 when you put another quarter in, 1623 01:08:46,856 --> 01:08:48,401 because, really, the whole concept to me 1624 01:08:48,425 --> 01:08:49,626 of playing these early games 1625 01:08:49,659 --> 01:08:51,828 was to see how far you could go on one credit. 1626 01:08:51,861 --> 01:08:54,106 So that's how a lot of the kids were setting the high scores. 1627 01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,565 They just keep throwing quarters in. 1628 01:08:55,599 --> 01:08:57,567 That to me is like, the richest person, 1629 01:08:57,601 --> 01:08:58,802 the one with the most quarters 1630 01:08:58,835 --> 01:09:00,537 is going to get the highest score. 1631 01:09:00,570 --> 01:09:02,948 Somebody tells me today they got a high score on a game, I say, 1632 01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:04,474 "yeah, how much did it cost you?" 1633 01:09:26,763 --> 01:09:30,567 Arcade video games had really already started the decline. 1634 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,512 I mean, you could already tell that it was waning, 1635 01:09:32,536 --> 01:09:35,138 because fewer and fewer people were going to the arcade. 1636 01:09:35,171 --> 01:09:38,542 'Cause the games in the arcades started to suck. 1637 01:09:38,575 --> 01:09:40,577 The games that were there were not the games 1638 01:09:40,610 --> 01:09:41,678 I wanted to play anymore. 1639 01:09:41,711 --> 01:09:42,879 Graphics were nice, 1640 01:09:42,912 --> 01:09:44,548 but the game play itself? 1641 01:09:44,581 --> 01:09:46,250 It's pretty hard to control here. 1642 01:09:46,283 --> 01:09:48,752 They started, in my opinion, losing their creativity 1643 01:09:48,785 --> 01:09:51,655 on creating truly new ideas. 1644 01:09:51,688 --> 01:09:53,790 Like when Street Fighter games 1645 01:09:53,823 --> 01:09:57,193 where suddenly you've got these lizard head lions 1646 01:09:57,227 --> 01:09:59,028 with fangs, you know, going... 1647 01:09:59,062 --> 01:10:01,731 One guy facing the other guy in profile 1648 01:10:01,765 --> 01:10:04,033 and just going at it. 1649 01:10:04,067 --> 01:10:07,170 You know, who wants to see an Egyptian lion's head 1650 01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,473 go against a ghost or something? 1651 01:10:09,506 --> 01:10:11,007 You're, like, going, 1652 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,376 "this is stupid." 1653 01:10:12,409 --> 01:10:14,043 I think some of the older gamers 1654 01:10:14,077 --> 01:10:15,645 are still stuck back in the '80s. 1655 01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:18,014 With those games instantly came a different crowd. 1656 01:10:18,047 --> 01:10:20,350 I don't think you understand. 1657 01:10:20,384 --> 01:10:22,319 It's my turn. 1658 01:10:22,352 --> 01:10:25,121 Some gang members, punk people that were coming in, 1659 01:10:25,154 --> 01:10:27,123 and they were causing trouble in the arcades, 1660 01:10:27,156 --> 01:10:28,692 and we didn't want to be there. 1661 01:10:28,725 --> 01:10:30,327 So we just stopped going. 1662 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,697 Which of these games is the closest thing to the real thing? 1663 01:10:33,730 --> 01:10:36,566 "A," Intellivision Major League Baseball, 1664 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,068 "B," Atari Baseball? 1665 01:10:39,102 --> 01:10:42,205 A lot of the uniqueness stopped appearing in arcades 1666 01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:43,740 and started appearing at home. 1667 01:10:43,773 --> 01:10:45,041 We have the Pong here, 1668 01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:47,210 which is one of the earlier systems that I have. 1669 01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:48,545 We have a Colecovision, 1670 01:10:48,578 --> 01:10:50,814 an Atari 800, one of my first computers, 1671 01:10:50,847 --> 01:10:52,716 a Odyssey, 1672 01:10:52,749 --> 01:10:54,050 an Atari 5200, 1673 01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:55,151 an Intellivision. 1674 01:10:55,184 --> 01:10:56,486 I have a couple handheld systems. 1675 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,487 The Bentley system, 1676 01:10:57,521 --> 01:10:58,755 the Rally 4, 1677 01:10:58,788 --> 01:11:00,023 Atari 2600, 1678 01:11:00,056 --> 01:11:01,558 everything a home could want. 1679 01:11:01,591 --> 01:11:04,227 When Nintendo came out, that was a huge thing. 1680 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:05,829 When computers became more advanced, 1681 01:11:05,862 --> 01:11:07,931 you could start playing games on computers. 1682 01:11:07,964 --> 01:11:10,099 Who the hell's gonna want to go to an arcade 1683 01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:13,069 when you can stay at home, sit on a chair, 1684 01:11:13,102 --> 01:11:15,014 get a drink, go to the bathroom whenever you want? 1685 01:11:15,038 --> 01:11:17,407 Just another example of how technology 1686 01:11:17,441 --> 01:11:18,775 has sort of made us lazy. 1687 01:11:18,808 --> 01:11:20,544 To me that was the beginning of the end 1688 01:11:20,577 --> 01:11:23,012 of what I call the classic gaming era. 1689 01:11:25,782 --> 01:11:27,784 In today's world, things get so popular 1690 01:11:27,817 --> 01:11:29,252 and then so unpopular. 1691 01:11:29,285 --> 01:11:31,054 You know, you've got maybe a year or so. 1692 01:11:31,087 --> 01:11:32,489 I mean, it was just a fad, 1693 01:11:32,522 --> 01:11:35,525 and it didn't really last that long. 1694 01:11:37,861 --> 01:11:40,964 For whatever reason, the arcade as the place to go 1695 01:11:40,997 --> 01:11:42,265 just wasn't true anymore. 1696 01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:43,467 It is kind of sad. 1697 01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:45,301 I didn't see it lasting forever, 1698 01:11:45,335 --> 01:11:47,771 but I didn't think it was gonna crash the way it did. 1699 01:11:47,804 --> 01:11:49,444 It was almost like the stock market crash, 1700 01:11:49,473 --> 01:11:52,809 everything at once just gone. 1701 01:12:39,456 --> 01:12:41,391 I'm posing for the cover of my album, 1702 01:12:41,425 --> 01:12:43,893 Walter Day in a mellow mood. 1703 01:12:43,927 --> 01:12:46,996 I'd like to be on the stage doing the whole thing, 1704 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:52,268 maybe a half a dozen show dates a year, you know. 1705 01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:30,106 I want to retire, because I want to do things that are now, 1706 01:13:30,139 --> 01:13:32,676 at this point in my life, more valuable to me. 1707 01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:34,386 'Cause the video game thing is a fun thing, 1708 01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:35,979 and it's an adventure. 1709 01:13:36,012 --> 01:13:38,582 But it's not the thing that's most important to my heart. 1710 01:13:42,786 --> 01:13:45,955 I have no excuses after that book's out 1711 01:13:45,989 --> 01:13:47,624 to stay in here any longer. 1712 01:13:47,657 --> 01:13:49,258 I will definitely be moving on. 1713 01:14:01,337 --> 01:14:02,872 Wow. 1714 01:14:02,906 --> 01:14:05,074 How can we improve on this thing? 1715 01:14:09,946 --> 01:14:11,815 That's how I remember Walter. 1716 01:14:11,848 --> 01:14:14,584 It's kind of funny to think that Walter is probably, what, 1717 01:14:14,618 --> 01:14:15,885 in his 30s at that point? 1718 01:14:15,919 --> 01:14:20,524 So today I'm as old as he was in that point. 1719 01:14:20,557 --> 01:14:24,027 Can you bring the wires so that that thing... 1720 01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:26,663 Closer. 1721 01:14:26,696 --> 01:14:29,799 Yeah, he's looking pretty good. 1722 01:14:34,337 --> 01:14:36,339 Oh, man. 1723 01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:41,244 Cover your mouth when you yawn, you dork. 1724 01:14:41,277 --> 01:14:42,646 I hope... there's Kent! 1725 01:14:42,679 --> 01:14:44,480 Holy smokes. 1726 01:14:47,651 --> 01:14:49,753 Two or three of us went to Ottumwa, Iowa, 1727 01:14:49,786 --> 01:14:50,787 to be with Walter. 1728 01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:53,489 And I remember waking up one morning 1729 01:14:53,523 --> 01:14:56,459 and having an event that still to this day 1730 01:14:56,492 --> 01:15:00,997 I consider to be sort of maybe... 1731 01:15:01,030 --> 01:15:03,567 If not the pivotal moment, maybe a... 1732 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,836 Definitely a pivotal moment in my spiritual life. 1733 01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:09,038 I woke up about 6:00 in the morning 1734 01:15:09,072 --> 01:15:11,207 in this filthy attic 1735 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,610 of Walter Day's above the arcade, 1736 01:15:13,643 --> 01:15:20,316 and I can't really put it into words very well. 1737 01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,018 But it was like I felt 1738 01:15:22,051 --> 01:15:24,253 the presence of God in that room. 1739 01:15:29,626 --> 01:15:33,362 And the message that I got from the Lord was, 1740 01:15:33,396 --> 01:15:34,598 "you're wasting your life. 1741 01:15:34,631 --> 01:15:37,466 "You are headed nowhere. 1742 01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:39,936 "You need to go home and settle down 1743 01:15:39,969 --> 01:15:43,139 "and go back to school and go to a Christian school 1744 01:15:43,172 --> 01:15:45,208 and do something with your life." 1745 01:15:45,241 --> 01:15:47,711 And that's what I did. 1746 01:15:47,744 --> 01:15:49,512 The video game player became someone 1747 01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:51,314 who needed to find a paycheck. 1748 01:15:51,347 --> 01:15:54,751 I stopped playing, I would say, about 1983. 1749 01:15:54,784 --> 01:15:56,653 I moved to Reno. 1750 01:15:56,686 --> 01:15:58,321 Todd perhaps, you know, 1751 01:15:58,354 --> 01:15:59,856 earlier than anybody else in our group 1752 01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:02,491 decided to pursue real life. 1753 01:16:02,525 --> 01:16:03,492 He had a real job. 1754 01:16:03,526 --> 01:16:04,828 He was a plumber. 1755 01:16:04,861 --> 01:16:06,672 So I don't know if you remember the game Bubbles. 1756 01:16:06,696 --> 01:16:08,336 So we all picked on him, saying, you know, 1757 01:16:08,364 --> 01:16:09,733 he's playing Bubbles for a living. 1758 01:16:10,834 --> 01:16:13,202 I began really a massive withdrawal, 1759 01:16:13,236 --> 01:16:15,471 and in '85 I was out. 1760 01:16:15,504 --> 01:16:16,682 They took the bull by the horns 1761 01:16:16,706 --> 01:16:18,241 and actually accomplished something. 1762 01:16:18,274 --> 01:16:20,076 Most of them seem to have nice jobs 1763 01:16:20,109 --> 01:16:21,577 and nice lives and nice homes. 1764 01:16:21,611 --> 01:16:23,146 I went into the military, 1765 01:16:23,179 --> 01:16:25,749 had a whole new set of problems to play with there. 1766 01:16:25,782 --> 01:16:27,283 I got a job traveling. 1767 01:16:27,316 --> 01:16:29,753 I've been in organized baseball now 54 years. 1768 01:16:29,786 --> 01:16:31,220 I buy computers. 1769 01:16:31,254 --> 01:16:33,222 I'm a senior technical specialist. 1770 01:16:33,256 --> 01:16:35,659 I've been a partier off and on 1771 01:16:35,692 --> 01:16:37,426 through different stages of my life. 1772 01:16:37,460 --> 01:16:41,030 I can't really devote too much time to doing an everyday job, 1773 01:16:41,064 --> 01:16:42,666 because I take care of my parents. 1774 01:16:42,699 --> 01:16:45,034 A sales rep for a payroll company. 1775 01:16:45,068 --> 01:16:47,170 Quality assurance manager for a company 1776 01:16:47,203 --> 01:16:49,338 that manufactures satellite communication equipment. 1777 01:16:49,372 --> 01:16:52,375 We were the first ones in our area to serve chicken wings. 1778 01:16:52,408 --> 01:16:54,377 So that's what I am; I'm a trial lawyer. 1779 01:16:54,410 --> 01:16:57,280 I'm not like a pimp or anything, but, I mean, I just... 1780 01:16:57,313 --> 01:16:58,414 I have a lot of friends, 1781 01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:01,184 and they happen to be good-looking. 1782 01:17:01,217 --> 01:17:02,728 And that journey ended when I found out 1783 01:17:02,752 --> 01:17:03,887 I was going to be a father. 1784 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,122 And that was the end of almost completely 1785 01:17:06,155 --> 01:17:07,523 of playing video games. 1786 01:17:07,556 --> 01:17:11,895 I went to Romania, met my wife, and came back with two kids. 1787 01:17:13,196 --> 01:17:16,700 All right, let's pray. 1788 01:17:16,733 --> 01:17:18,902 Heavenly father, we thank you for this day, 1789 01:17:18,935 --> 01:17:20,336 and we thank you for our family, 1790 01:17:20,369 --> 01:17:22,147 for the many blessings that you have given us. 1791 01:17:22,171 --> 01:17:23,306 Our youngest baby, Elijah, 1792 01:17:23,339 --> 01:17:24,273 who just turned a year old 1793 01:17:24,307 --> 01:17:26,342 and is very fussy. 1794 01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:28,978 This is our oldest boy, Isaiah, 1795 01:17:29,012 --> 01:17:29,979 and Zachariah. 1796 01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:31,480 Isaiah is 12. 1797 01:17:31,514 --> 01:17:32,982 Zachariah is ten. 1798 01:17:33,016 --> 01:17:33,983 And I'm five. 1799 01:17:34,017 --> 01:17:35,719 And Josiah is five. 1800 01:17:38,554 --> 01:17:39,723 Are you helping daddy? 1801 01:17:39,756 --> 01:17:42,458 We've been talking about trying for a girl. 1802 01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:43,927 We've talked about adopting. 1803 01:17:44,961 --> 01:17:46,529 You think that's funny? 1804 01:17:46,562 --> 01:17:48,965 Trying to figure out why your child is screaming 1805 01:17:48,998 --> 01:17:51,034 is pretty good problem solving exercise. 1806 01:17:51,067 --> 01:17:52,535 Melt down, melt down. 1807 01:17:52,568 --> 01:17:55,705 I really didn't slow down extracurricular activities 1808 01:17:55,739 --> 01:17:57,140 a lot until my kids came. 1809 01:17:57,173 --> 01:18:00,576 And then my whole life kind of revolves around what my kids do. 1810 01:18:00,609 --> 01:18:02,611 I do have a son. 1811 01:18:02,645 --> 01:18:05,681 It was out of the only one-night stand 1812 01:18:05,715 --> 01:18:08,985 I've ever had in my life. 1813 01:18:09,018 --> 01:18:12,455 It's a story I really don't want to go into, but... 1814 01:18:12,488 --> 01:18:16,793 I always wanted to do something absolutely unequivocal. 1815 01:18:16,826 --> 01:18:20,797 But tremendous responsibilities keep pulling at me. 1816 01:18:20,830 --> 01:18:23,800 He's the Pac-man champion. 1817 01:18:23,833 --> 01:18:27,236 And he's beaten the whole level a couple of times, 1818 01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:29,705 or maybe more than a couple of times. 1819 01:18:29,739 --> 01:18:33,276 Maybe a thousand or maybe 2,000. 1820 01:18:33,309 --> 01:18:34,577 Maybe google. 1821 01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:36,679 That's the highest. 1822 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:38,614 Billy, numbers never stop. 1823 01:18:38,647 --> 01:18:40,249 Do they? 1824 01:18:40,283 --> 01:18:41,450 Besar. 1825 01:18:41,484 --> 01:18:42,786 Besar. 1826 01:18:42,819 --> 01:18:46,455 To kiss. 1827 01:18:46,489 --> 01:18:48,324 Bajar. 1828 01:18:48,357 --> 01:18:49,458 Bajar. 1829 01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:51,460 To go down. 1830 01:18:51,494 --> 01:18:53,462 Oh, that's my girlfriend right there. 1831 01:18:53,496 --> 01:18:54,864 She lives in Mexico City. 1832 01:18:54,898 --> 01:18:56,538 She hasn't been as quick learning English, 1833 01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:57,743 so I'm trying to learn Spanish. 1834 01:18:57,767 --> 01:18:59,402 So we have to learn to communicate. 1835 01:18:59,435 --> 01:19:00,870 Desvestir. 1836 01:19:00,904 --> 01:19:02,638 Desvestir. 1837 01:19:02,671 --> 01:19:04,440 To undress. 1838 01:19:04,473 --> 01:19:07,610 I live at home with my parents. 1839 01:19:07,643 --> 01:19:09,478 Other than my cat, it's just us. 1840 01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:12,648 I've got two cats currently. 1841 01:19:12,681 --> 01:19:14,951 Their names are Impy and Sparks. 1842 01:19:14,984 --> 01:19:16,528 I've always preferred the sound of a purr 1843 01:19:16,552 --> 01:19:17,854 to the sound of a bark. 1844 01:19:17,887 --> 01:19:18,955 And I have a fiancee now. 1845 01:19:18,988 --> 01:19:20,223 So on a personal level, 1846 01:19:20,256 --> 01:19:22,491 my goal is to actually spend the rest of my life 1847 01:19:22,525 --> 01:19:23,726 with someone I love. 1848 01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:25,361 It turns out she's not a game player, 1849 01:19:25,394 --> 01:19:26,629 which is kind of interesting. 1850 01:19:26,662 --> 01:19:28,774 I never thought I would, you know, meet and fall in love 1851 01:19:28,798 --> 01:19:31,000 with someone who did not play or enjoy video games. 1852 01:19:32,035 --> 01:19:33,336 That's the lady frog. 1853 01:19:33,369 --> 01:19:35,338 500 bonus points if you bring her home. 1854 01:19:35,371 --> 01:19:37,673 There are a handful of video game players 1855 01:19:37,706 --> 01:19:41,077 that have made more money and achieved more success 1856 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:44,080 and more notoriety than Walter ever has. 1857 01:19:44,113 --> 01:19:48,051 I see that really as sort of a cruel irony. 1858 01:19:48,084 --> 01:19:50,353 Sometimes I guess that happens to people 1859 01:19:50,386 --> 01:19:53,756 that they get their father-like energies 1860 01:19:53,789 --> 01:19:56,025 directed in a different kind of way than normally, 1861 01:19:56,059 --> 01:19:57,026 having their children. 1862 01:19:57,060 --> 01:19:58,661 I've been very aware of the fact 1863 01:19:58,694 --> 01:20:01,965 that I've been babysitting other people's kids for years 1864 01:20:01,998 --> 01:20:04,700 and that a lot of them might have even been my children 1865 01:20:04,733 --> 01:20:08,071 in a sense, you know, because of that same kind of relationship 1866 01:20:08,104 --> 01:20:11,875 where I've had a... 1867 01:20:11,908 --> 01:20:14,110 I've just had people under my wing. 1868 01:20:52,916 --> 01:20:55,484 They probably did impact each others' lives, 1869 01:20:55,518 --> 01:20:57,453 because it was all a common thing they all had. 1870 01:20:57,486 --> 01:20:59,155 They only had video games in common. 1871 01:20:59,188 --> 01:21:01,657 By finding that one thread they had in common, 1872 01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,327 to see where that commonality could take them 1873 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,162 down such different avenues, 1874 01:21:06,195 --> 01:21:09,198 everybody was launched on a voyage by Twin Galaxies. 1875 01:21:09,232 --> 01:21:10,934 Who would have guessed at the beginning 1876 01:21:10,967 --> 01:21:12,868 where that voyage was gonna lead them? 1877 01:21:42,966 --> 01:21:45,101 Everything that we do is an experience, 1878 01:21:45,134 --> 01:21:48,204 because that was truly the golden age of video games, 1879 01:21:48,237 --> 01:21:49,838 and we were pioneers. 1880 01:21:49,872 --> 01:21:51,540 I wouldn't trade that for anything. 1881 01:21:51,574 --> 01:21:55,744 If getting old has to be being serious, being a grump, 1882 01:21:55,778 --> 01:21:58,647 I don't want to become that more serious grumpy person. 1883 01:21:58,681 --> 01:21:59,949 I want to be myself. 1884 01:21:59,983 --> 01:22:02,986 And if myself is unwinding and playing video games, 1885 01:22:03,019 --> 01:22:04,520 then that's me, you know. 1886 01:22:04,553 --> 01:22:06,189 I enjoy that. 1887 01:22:06,222 --> 01:22:07,723 Like, if I really look back, 1888 01:22:07,756 --> 01:22:09,692 I think video games really helped me. 1889 01:22:09,725 --> 01:22:12,128 I know how to win, and I want to win. 1890 01:22:12,161 --> 01:22:14,830 You know, I wanted to succeed in life. 1891 01:22:14,863 --> 01:22:16,532 I'm gonna keep playing and playing 1892 01:22:16,565 --> 01:22:21,470 until I have at least ten or more world records. 1893 01:22:21,504 --> 01:22:23,706 Joel, you have changed. 1894 01:22:23,739 --> 01:22:24,739 I have changed. 1895 01:22:25,841 --> 01:22:27,521 I went into the witness protection program. 1896 01:22:28,978 --> 01:22:32,715 You know, each experience, each day in a person's life 1897 01:22:32,748 --> 01:22:34,883 is something they'll never relive again. 1898 01:22:34,917 --> 01:22:36,552 It's like the pages of a fine book. 1899 01:22:36,585 --> 01:22:39,088 If you remember it, even though it's, you know, 1900 01:22:39,122 --> 01:22:41,657 much later in time, it is important to you, 1901 01:22:41,690 --> 01:22:43,559 the memory part. 1902 01:22:43,592 --> 01:22:45,995 As I look back on it, it was a lot of fun 1903 01:22:46,029 --> 01:22:48,998 to have all the fame and notoriety and so on. 1904 01:22:49,032 --> 01:22:52,168 But the only thing that has really stayed with me 1905 01:22:52,201 --> 01:22:54,003 for 23 years is the friendship 1906 01:22:54,037 --> 01:22:55,338 that I've got with Bill Mitchell. 1907 01:22:55,371 --> 01:22:56,505 And I treasure that. 1908 01:22:56,539 --> 01:22:57,806 Holy hair, Batman. 1909 01:22:58,841 --> 01:23:00,343 Is that little Benny? 1910 01:23:00,376 --> 01:23:04,147 Hey, just because I'm follicly challenged does not mean... 1911 01:23:04,180 --> 01:23:07,250 The game of Berzerk is like life. 1912 01:23:07,283 --> 01:23:11,554 You get too confident, you're gonna get wiped out. 1913 01:23:11,587 --> 01:23:13,856 And in point of fact, you die at the end. 1914 01:23:15,024 --> 01:23:17,060 And that's the great finality of it. 1915 01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:19,895 After your five lives are over, game over. 1916 01:23:19,928 --> 01:23:21,097 Game over. 1917 01:26:05,194 --> 01:26:08,197 Well, I talked to a few people about the name of the movie, 1918 01:26:08,231 --> 01:26:09,365 Chasing Ghosts, 1919 01:26:09,398 --> 01:26:12,000 and I talked to my wife and a few other folks, 1920 01:26:12,034 --> 01:26:14,403 and they said, "sounds like a horror movie." 1921 01:26:14,437 --> 01:26:19,508 If I had a vote or an opinion to put in, 1922 01:26:19,542 --> 01:26:22,911 I would just say that, search for something else. 1923 01:26:22,945 --> 01:26:26,349 I began racking my brain as to what would be a good suggestion. 1924 01:26:26,382 --> 01:26:31,287 So I envisioned an arcade and a kid walking by a machine, 1925 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,956 and it scanned him, and then it said, 1926 01:26:33,989 --> 01:26:35,358 "coin detected in pocket," 1927 01:26:35,391 --> 01:26:36,725 and he walked over and played it. 1928 01:26:36,759 --> 01:26:38,961 That's essentially how I got started with Berzerk. 1929 01:26:38,994 --> 01:26:42,097 So I suggested the name "Coins Detected in Pocket." 1930 01:26:42,130 --> 01:26:43,866 Everyone that I've talked to, 1931 01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:45,801 they really think that it's a more fitting name 1932 01:26:45,834 --> 01:26:46,834 for the project. 1933 01:26:56,645 --> 01:27:00,716 Coins Detected in Pocket. 148299

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