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Kurt Strubing is the founder of the black metal band.
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This is Strubing with his band NME. Very heavy, very aggressive rock and roll.
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Kurt Strubing with his heavy metal band, which has just signed a contract with a German label.
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Kurt was in complete control of the ship.
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We were just passengers.
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This whole story is: “We are evil, see for yourself.”
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The lyrics scared you. I felt pure evil.
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Images and some kind of message.
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Just a sign of the times.
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Here we are, a group,
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singing about death and destruction, but most metalheads are happy people.
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I was eight when my father died,
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As a child, I lived in ignorance. I was not allowed to watch the news or read newspapers.
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But I remember, many, many years later, I googled my name.
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I saw all these headlines and was like, "Huh? Click."
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Kurt Strubing, 39, made headlines again almost twenty years ago.
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Kurt Strubing served time for the murder of his mother in 1986.
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At first you think: “No, it’s definitely not him.”
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Strubing is survived by his wife and eight-year-old son.
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But no, it's the same one.
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Whatever ruled his soul that day,
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temporary insanity, drugs, demonic possession –
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The one I was looking at, whose eyes I was looking into, was no longer the same person.
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This is not the Kurt I knew.
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And not the Kurt I fell in love with.
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You know, with all his hobbies, he really could have touched something supernatural.
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If you dance with the darkness, you will get burned.
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NME - from hell.
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We, no matter how young we are, take on great responsibility.
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Brian Llapitan, Kurt Strubing,
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Scott Tinsley and Steve Mayer declared war on the world.
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We at NMI are determined to get our message across.
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If doubt is evil, then we are evil.
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Don't be afraid.
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For life to exist, there must be death.
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Those who do not believe must die.
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NMI.
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What we were trying to say was: this is the embodiment of hatred.
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That was our business back then, yes.
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In 1985, the Seattle metal scene was at its peak.
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Groups supported groups, people supported groups.
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I worked at Gorilla Gardens.
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We had two or three metal shows a week.
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Soundgarden played there.
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"Malfunction", which later became "Mother Love Bone".
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It seemed like the Seattle scene was the place to go at that moment.
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There were a lot of bands playing on Fridays and Saturdays. We all hung out there:
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"Melvins" or "Nirvana".
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Punks, metalheads - everyone was there and hanging out together.
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It seemed like there was a group on every block.
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We weren't the fastest, we weren't the most coordinated,
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but the group's philosophy was chaos.
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We're going to go on stage and tear this place apart, smash the hell out of it.
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We were different.
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We decided that if we were causing a reaction, then we were doing everything right.
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Some people called us Seattle's first black metal band,
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And in a way, it was a cool nickname. If it's true, that's awesome.
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We just did it the best we could.
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NMI was really scary, and I thought it was pretty damn cool.
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Music that touches you and scares you.
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And Kurt Strubing, going on stage,
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I took the guitar and deliberately made it so that blood flowed from my mouth as much as possible,
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to make blood flow while he plays.
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It felt like you were looking at a monster.
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The image was truly creepy.
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Basically, I'm not sure if I want to love it, but I do.
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And I was...
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I was a fan within the group.
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So it was kind of the best of both worlds.
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Kurt was definitely the leader of the N&M.
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The first time I met him was at work.
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I was a dishwasher, Kurt was a prep cook.
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He joked as if he were some kind of executioner.
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"Now your time has come, melon."
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Funny kitchen jokes.
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Kurt taught me that you can't wait for life to come to you—
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I need to go and grab her by the ass. I need to take action.
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He spent a lot of time on cool flyers,
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to attract attention to the concerts.
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There was a spirit of anarchy in them.
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A pair of pentagrams on top.
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These images came from the dark corners of his brain.
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He was definitely pushing the boundaries.
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The first time I met Kurt,
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when I was twelve. He moved into the house two doors down from mine.
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He was different from many of the kids I knew back then.
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He was always drawing or writing something.
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It was dark and strange,
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perhaps a reflection of where his thoughts were.
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Kurt's father was an alcoholic.
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He came home from work,
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I would sit at the kitchen table with a bottle of Black Velvet and just drink.
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Kurt's father was abusive.
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Sometimes these tirades lasted for ten minutes,
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and so on every day.
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It must have been exhausting for him.
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He was an adopted child,
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the only one in the family.
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And the mother compensated for the way the father treated him.
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One hundred percent of her attention was on him.
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They were very close.
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That's how we got a guitar. That's how we got a bass. She bought them for us.
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She let us rehearse until seven or eight in the evening,
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which would be prohibited in my home.
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I remember we played "Holy Diver" by Dio,
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and his mother danced in the kitchen to this song.
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And I realized: it means we play quite similarly,
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so that someone understands what we are doing.
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There was an assembly on the last day of school,
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and we were allowed to play on it.
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We started with a cover of Motley Crue's "Shout at the Devil."
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Ten seconds later, people simply poured out of the gym.
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We looked at each other and shrugged our shoulders: “Oh my God,
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"there is no one left."
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And at that moment I thought: “Dude, nobody likes us, we are everyone’s enemy.”
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From that day on we decided to change everything.
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We liked Venom with their black metal and excellent lyrics.
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When you get into music like that in 1985,
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It seemed as if I had to speak like a Satanist and provoke people to think.
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It seemed like the bands were competing to see who could write the meanest lyrics.
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We hung out at Kurt's and listened to a lot of albums.
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He was the one who got me hooked on more extreme music.
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Judas Priest, Motorhead - I didn't know there was anything harder.
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I absorbed it.
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We scraped together some money,
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recorded a demo.
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Kurt sent tapes everywhere: to Germany, Sweden.
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I don't know if we've achieved that scale yet,
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If only he hadn't promoted us so much.
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Kurt wrote a long text about the emergence of a new messiah.
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I remember when this was published, I read it and thought, “This is not bad.
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This is an advertisement for our group." It seemed to me,
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This is an appropriate expression of our attitude.
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You know, I thought it was a joke, but then I realized he took it seriously.
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He claimed to be the new messiah,
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and I'm like, "Oh my god, this is so cool! This is an easy sell! Yeah, this is our messiah!"
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Dutch East India wasn't a metal company at all,
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but I saw Charles Manson in their catalog and thought:
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"I'll give it a try." It was that simple. I pitched to NMI for about six weeks and got the deal!
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Okay, we're sorry we have to take drugs to cool down, but we're good guys.
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We decided that since we were going to record an album, we wanted the listener to have the feeling of a live concert.
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So they just hung a microphone from the ceiling and added a bunch of reverb.
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And then we were like, “Okay, hopefully it will work the first time.”
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At first I thought, "This sounds like total crap."
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But I said to myself, “It will sound okay.”
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The best part of the beauty of the ugliness of that album is the management of that feedback and that noise in such a way,
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as most people didn't play back then.
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Kurt's lyrics brought dark sides of reality to light.
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They touched darker souls.
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What happens in war,
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what people do to each other.
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Here it is. It's all here. We're just going to talk about it.
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The song that particularly bothered me was "Unspeakable."
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The third verse has some really creepy lyrics:
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"Hiding in the shadows, creeping up on you. Voices from hell tell me what to do.
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I will split your skull open to watch the blood flow.
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Everything is blackened by death, there is no more sun.
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"The Unspoken."
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I thought, "Damn it.
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Oh!
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"This is tough."
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I think he must have been afraid of something in his life too. Life is unpredictable.
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Even if your lyrics flirt with dark themes, you want to give them meaning.
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I think it was his way of coping.
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When the album "Anholy Death" was released,
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We started getting great reviews in independent, statist metal magazines.
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It was wonderful.
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And they were very colorful, very over-the-top.
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Someone said my vocals sound like a bear gargling with razor blades.
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We started getting reviews in Krim and other giant publications,
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which shouldn't have been covered at all.
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There was a review from "Krim",
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which blew our minds. Because they had a wide reach.
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It was all very large-scale and...
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quite exciting because we thought, "Hey, here it is, the big start."
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We came to our mailbox, and there was a letter: “Go to the postmaster.”
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And he took out a bag of fan mail and threw it on the counter.
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There were letters from Germany, from the Czech Republic, Yugoslavia.
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Many girls sent naked photos.
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There was also a lot of occult stuff like “yes, I worship the devil” and so on.
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And the guys and I decided: “Let's take this to the next level.
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We have a fan base in Eastern Europe – Poland, Ukraine, Belarus.”
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Yes, we felt that something was happening.
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We were targeting Europe. Perhaps South America.
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We were going to go to Europe and play at the venues where all the European bands were playing.
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And I remember thinking, because I was in high school at the time:
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"As soon as school ends, I'm leaving."
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I felt like I was on the brink of being able to tour with the band.
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We were… I thought we were very close to it, and everything seemed to be going in that direction.
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According to police,
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Someone in the apartment dialed nine-one-one and hung up.
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Dispatchers traced the call.
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When police arrived, they found the suspect naked and covered in blood.
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Steve called me and said, "I have bad news."
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I'm like, "What? The concert was cancelled?"
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And he said, "No. Kurt killed his mom."
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Spring break April eighty-six.
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NME played at a house party.
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One fan had a suburban house with a bunch of reptiles.
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There we could hang out and, well, relax completely.
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It was the eighties, there were a lot of drugs around.
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People told me that maybe he took some kind of synthetic fucking drug,
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I think it's homemade.
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As the party was drawing to a close,
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Kurt was offered a ride home,
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and someone was holding a baseball bat.
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He then grabbed this bat,
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picked her up and hit him pretty hard.
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It wasn't in Kurt's character.
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There was some kind of paranoia.
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The next day I wasn't there, but I heard about some weird shit.
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On Sunday, Kurt and I rented a carpet shampooer.
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When you have band rehearsals at a party house,
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everything could get out of control. We wanted to remove,
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take out the equipment and clean the carpet for the owner.
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But all this time I look at Kurt and see this sparkle in his eyes.
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I say, "Dude, what's wrong with you? What's going on?" And he says, "Nothing.
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I'm tired. Or I don't know. Or I need to think."
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When you buy a carpet cleaning machine, it comes with a bottle of the recommended product. Well, it was.
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And suddenly, for some reason, he took a sip of this remedy.
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I'm like, "Oh my God, dude!"
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Scott called me and said,
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that Kurt is behaving abnormally.
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I asked Kurt why he drank the carpet cleaner.
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And he said, "I thought it said robot cleaning."
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We decided that it might be better to take him home.
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He lived with his mother in an apartment.
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And Scott drove him home that night.
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I thought, "We'll just get a good night's sleep and talk about it tomorrow."
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Because I've never seen anything like it. But I decided,
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We've simply gone too far. We need to take a break.
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On Monday morning I was on my way to work. I was on the bus,
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I had a Walkman player with a radio.
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I heard the news that there was a murder in the King County area.
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And... I get it.
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The woman, 53-year-old Darley Strubing, was found dead in the apartment.
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The autopsy is complete and shows
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that she died from chopped wounds to the head and stab wounds to the chest.
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There was no Internet, so we had to wait until eleven for news.
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My parents and I were sitting and watching, and when I saw the footage of him, his eyes were different.
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It was as if his soul had disappeared behind them.
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And then the details emerged.
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They hit like a sledgehammer.
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Something happened in that apartment on Sunday evening.
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I think whatever happens to Kurt—
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his paranoia, his delirium, what he saw, felt, believed in,
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he decided that he was some kind of dark entity.
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Something inside him snapped.
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Kurt appears to have killed her with an axe,
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and also with scissors.
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He called the police, went outside, naked.
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And they arrested him.
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I'm like, "What?! No way!"
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That's the only thing I could think of: "Fuck it!"
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It was devastating, heartbreaking,
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It was incredible. It was more incredible than anything I've ever experienced.
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The most shocking, most mind-blowing event of my life, multiplied by a thousand.
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It was... yeah, fucked up. Total fucked up.
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Darlie had no family, just her and Kurt,
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That's all.
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Her colleagues organized a small service at the local church.
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There was a lot of anger directed towards Kurt.
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Many people felt disgusted,
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and they talked about it openly.
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They said, "But you were in a band with him." Yeah, but I didn't know how to feel either.
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I loved his mother and often called her "mom".
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I remember her dancing in the kitchen while we played songs.
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Losing that in itself was...
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It was terribly painful for me.
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People were like, 'What's wrong with you for hanging out with this guy?'
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Wine by association.
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Kurt was sent to Western State Hospital, where the mentally ill are taken.
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And as soon as they could,
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We went to Western State to see him.
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I think we were very naive and didn't understand,
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what we are about to... see.
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We probably didn't fully understand the gravity of what was happening.
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Being in this huge psychiatric center was reminiscent of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
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You look at your friend through six inches of plexiglass.
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It was very difficult.
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I could feel his complete emptiness. It was as if I could sense it.
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And I have never experienced anything like this in my life.
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As far as I understand,
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before he was sent to Western State for a psychiatric evaluation,
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He smashed his head on the cell floor.
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He jumped headfirst from the top bunk in prison.
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That's when he was transferred to Western State.
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Realizing what happened,
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despite the fact that he always spoke about his mother with great love...
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He probably regretted not killing himself at that very moment.
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After what happened, every day was like denial.
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"Is this real? Did this really happen?"
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I didn't want anything to do with black metal or Satanism. It didn't particularly scare me...
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until Kurt did what he did.
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The song "Unspeakable" has taken on a new meaning.
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When you start hearing the lines, they sound eerily familiar.
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There's a line in there that says, "I'll split your skull open just to watch the blood flow."
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That's exactly what happened.
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He killed his mother with an axe and scissors.
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You can't help but wonder if this is connected.
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I began to understand that everything he wrote, said, or did, he took seriously.
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I was very, very, very deeply shocked by everything I read.
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When he spoke to the operator at nine-one-one,
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He mentioned that it was "the work of God."
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It scared the shit out of me because it brought me back to what he was saying about,
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that he is the new messiah.
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Psychiatric reports said,
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that he considered his mother a robot.
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He said he wanted to experiment to see if robots could be replaced.
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The truth is, it wasn't Satanism.
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This was the act of a mentally ill person.
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I felt a little guilty.
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We brought his mother to this situation,
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they took him to her.
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And he was unwell, he was clearly unwell.
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But we don't...
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I didn't know.
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I was young and had no experience in such things.
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You see, we didn't really talk about such topics in the eighties.
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When you are twenty years old and you are not a professional in this field,
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I just thought it was weird.
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Psychiatrists and doctors agreed that he had suffered a psychotic break.
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That he was not in control of himself at that moment.
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He snapped.
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We don't know why he snapped,
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and he might break down again.
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Kurt was found guilty of second-degree murder.
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He admitted his guilt.
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He was given eight years.
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And he spent these eight years not in a hospital, but in prison.
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It is one of the most brutal murders in King County history.
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I thought he should have gotten life, whether he was insane or not.
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I immediately stopped working with the group.
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I know many people didn't understand.
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Many people thought that I should distance myself from all of this completely.
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I worked with my father,
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I was digging some hole, leaned on the shovel and started crying.
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And my father said to me: “You still haven’t recovered from this?”
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He did everything he could to support me.
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To toughen me up.
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But, with all due respect to my father, what I needed more that day was his hug.
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I knew I would never get answers.
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But I knew that I loved my friend and I said to myself: I will support him.
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I don't really believe in people, but I believed in him.
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Maybe I was a fool, but that's how I felt.
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He called me.
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It was a collect call. And he sounded more like himself in conversation.
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He was sorry, he was upset.
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I urged him to seek help.
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I'm not a doctor, but I think about his childhood and how his foundation may have cracked.
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We all learned that Kurt lost his mind as a teenager.
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That's probably why we understood it and forgave it.
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I don't think I could come to terms with what happened.
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But he could come to terms with the very idea of loyalty - staying close to the one who screwed up.
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But it was beyond his control.
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He clearly had a very traumatized soul, which we didn't know at the time.
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He wrote many letters.
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Most often it’s about how he spends his time usefully.
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He went through his studies, got a diploma in graphic arts, wrote songs, of course.
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I used some NME songs and changed some things in them.
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He rewrote "Unspeakable."
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It was precisely this passage that tormented him.
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"Maybe I've gone too far."
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Most of the letters I received from him were about
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that when he comes out, we will continue,
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If I'm with him, go ahead.
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He was still encouraging us.
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He had court orders to meet with a consultant.
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But every time we discussed it, I was left with the impression,
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that he did not receive any benefit from it.
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I didn't like it.
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Thought he still had to work on himself.
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And so... I kept him at a little distance.
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You think you know everything about a person if you hang out in a group.
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But then he kills the one who is closest.
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The more I thought about it,
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the more it came to me: what if I make him angry?
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Will he try to kill me when he gets out?
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He is a murderer.
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April 12, 1994. Kurt was released.
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We went after him.
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00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,390
He didn't really like hugging, but I was the opposite in this regard.
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I love hugging people. So I hugged him.
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00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,800
I bought fast food - after eight years in prison, the first thing you want is
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it's to eat normal food.
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00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:27,370
The plan was this: as soon as he got out,
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We'll start jamming like NME again.
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Like in the Blues Brothers. Like, "Hey, we're getting the band back together."
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Yes, the metal world has changed a lot,
390
00:27:39,070 --> 00:27:42,430
but we hoped that people would be interested in what we were doing.
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00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,650
I just wanted those eight years to be erased and we could go back to how it was.
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00:27:48,850 --> 00:27:53,960
His guitar playing has improved so much, it's just amazing.
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00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:56,440
The band is back together,
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and I called my sister and asked, "Hey, do you want to go?"
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Band rehearsal.
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This is a band rehearsal.
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It was business as usual for us,
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especially when we first started dating, we always went to rehearsals.
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00:28:09,070 --> 00:28:10,920
Well, he does what he loves.
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00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,250
Yes.
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00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:13,750
The guys are together again now.
402
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,210
It was a typical house party - lots of beer and a loud band playing in the garage.
403
00:28:26,140 --> 00:28:29,740
I met a lot of people that night, but I met Kurt.
404
00:28:30,130 --> 00:28:31,120
He was very handsome.
405
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:36,520
A bit of a rough guy, but that's the kind of guy I liked.
406
00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:42,700
I knew right away that Kurt and I would probably be together forever.
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00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:44,860
I just knew.
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00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:46,000
Do you understand?
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00:28:47,230 --> 00:28:50,980
He was a joker, very, very funny, very cheerful.
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00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:54,370
I knew he was released from prison.
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00:28:54,550 --> 00:28:57,970
But I honestly couldn't believe it was him.
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00:29:02,770 --> 00:29:06,100
Have you ever been afraid because of his past?
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Never.
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00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:08,980
Never.
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00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,540
The thought didn't even occur to me.
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00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:13,060
I trusted him from the very beginning.
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00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,960
The first time Kurt and I talked about the past,
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It was evening and we were taking a bath together.
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I just wanted him to explain it to me,
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what happened.
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00:29:29,170 --> 00:29:32,200
I just wanted to hear it from his lips.
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00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:37,420
For me, this was a condition to move forward.
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00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,060
Of course, this was not an easy thing to discuss.
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00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:49,120
He compared his feelings to the Pink Floyd song "Comfortably Numb".
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00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,910
He didn't remember anything.
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00:29:53,770 --> 00:29:58,150
He only knew what people told him or what he read.
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00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
It was hard to listen to.
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00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:02,980
A very difficult conversation.
429
00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:09,940
He seemed to feel better when he was finally able to talk a little.
430
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:13,390
Our life together was not about the past.
431
00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:19,690
Our life together was about the present and how happy we were and where our future was going.
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00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,110
Angie and Kurt had been dating for quite a while. And my mom called me and basically,
433
00:30:26,110 --> 00:30:30,790
said, "I know they're in love. I know the relationship is growing,
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and I'm afraid that the same thing will happen to Angie that happened to Kurt's mother."
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00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:43,690
And I replied, “Well, you have two options: either join and support them, or lose your daughter.”
436
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:53,740
My mother came to terms with the fact that we would be together and recognized the Kurt I knew. She fell in love with him.
437
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,960
She became his new mother.
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00:30:56,830 --> 00:30:59,830
Kurt has a family again.
439
00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:02,710
This shows how much they trusted and loved him.
440
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:06,010
It’s hard to imagine that many would accept this calmly.
441
00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:07,900
It must have been hard,
442
00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:10,680
but he proved that he had changed.
443
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,110
He tried to be the best version of himself.
444
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:18,970
You can't undo the past, but you can try your best. I think that's what he did.
445
00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:21,150
Look how proud Kurt is here.
446
00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:22,740
And he's still in hospital uniform.
447
00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:23,680
To him.
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00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:25,390
Proud dad.
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00:31:26,350 --> 00:31:29,980
Holding her baby, perhaps for the first time in her life.
450
00:31:32,410 --> 00:31:36,400
Jared was born a couple of weeks premature, on Valentine's Day.
451
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,280
The irony is that it's Kurt's mom's birthday.
452
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:45,340
We were both nervous. Kurt much more so than I was.
453
00:31:45,490 --> 00:31:47,890
He had a lot of worries about fatherhood.
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But he simply got into the role.
455
00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:52,930
What kind of father was Kurt?
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Wonderful.
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He always put the child first.
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Did everything.
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00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:02,860
"Do you want me to change your diaper? Do you want me to stay up all night?"
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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,620
What are your first memories of your father?
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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Music.
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00:32:08,140 --> 00:32:08,860
Always played.
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00:32:09,340 --> 00:32:11,380
Either he is there by himself or just in the house.
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00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:13,150
Music constantly.
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00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:15,370
I remember we always played.
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00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:17,800
He took the guitar, and I hit the drums nearby.
467
00:32:18,820 --> 00:32:20,500
This was what you wait for all day.
468
00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:27,100
At school, you tap your pencils on your desk, and then he takes you and says, “Well, let’s go and light it up.”
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00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:31,330
Kurt did not repeat his father's mistakes.
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00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,640
He was a good father.
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00:32:33,790 --> 00:32:36,220
Very involved in his son's life.
472
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,630
I got him a job at my place. I told the manager the whole situation 100% honestly.
473
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:47,140
She said, "Well, everyone needs a second chance."
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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,710
Kurt proved to everyone every day that we were a normal family.
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00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,230
And I tried very hard.
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00:32:56,350 --> 00:33:01,930
Two cars in the driveway. We both work nine to five. Our own house.
477
00:33:02,170 --> 00:33:03,550
Ideal life.
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00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:06,700
Kurt got to the point where
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that his life was like everyone else's. Household chores.
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00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:18,160
Child care. Work care. And, of course, he never wanted to talk much about the past.
481
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,750
To achieve all this and keep it in your head all the time...
482
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:27,040
He always said, "I don't want to think about it more than I have to."
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00:33:27,550 --> 00:33:30,580
He was always trying to make life fun.
484
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:32,920
"Let's go to the park. Let's go riding bikes."
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00:33:33,130 --> 00:33:36,460
He helped coach my baseball team.
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00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,280
I don't know if he did it consciously to keep himself busy, or if it was just his nature.
487
00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:45,490
Maybe he kept himself busy all the time,
488
00:33:45,850 --> 00:33:48,280
so as not to sit in my own thoughts.
489
00:33:49,570 --> 00:33:50,890
The group was always there.
490
00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:52,630
It was his salvation.
491
00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:54,610
His way of moving on.
492
00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:59,410
There was music before, and there is music after. My father and his bandmates became like brothers,
493
00:33:59,530 --> 00:34:01,510
a real family.
494
00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:06,340
We rehearsed three times a week and were damn good.
495
00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:09,490
We had about fifty, sixty, seventy songs.
496
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,690
He has accumulated a ton of material.
497
00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:24,130
Of course, everything was completely different,
498
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,690
than during the times of "Anholy Death".
499
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,960
And yes, Brian is a great singer, nothing bad about him,
500
00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:31,690
but Brian was not part of this circle.
501
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:37,870
I didn't write him anything, I just went into the shadows.
502
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,820
But he found me and said, “Hey, long time no see.
503
00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:45,100
"Would you like to come back to the group by any chance?"
504
00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:47,140
When I saw him,
505
00:34:47,260 --> 00:34:49,300
It was like meeting an ex-girlfriend.
506
00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:52,420
He had changed a lot by this time.
507
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,910
His whole behavior was different.
508
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,160
Still a joker, still cheerful,
509
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,710
but the darkness disappeared.
510
00:35:00,070 --> 00:35:02,140
And that's what surprised me the most.
511
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:05,380
After such horror you always think:
512
00:35:05,380 --> 00:35:07,360
what if it's still out there somewhere?
513
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,950
But if I had felt even a hint, I would have left immediately.
514
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:21,100
And so it’s like with a bicycle.
515
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,860
Just got back in and drove off.
516
00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:26,230
As if no time had passed.
517
00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:32,440
The idea of playing Anholy Des started to float around again.
518
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:38,700
Kurt was already preparing a second reissue of the album with a German label.
519
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:40,990
It was a big deal. Like, let's release it,
520
00:35:41,350 --> 00:35:44,920
We'll start the concerts, then we'll work on new material.
521
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,690
That was the main impetus.
522
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,970
We started moving forward, we had a goal.
523
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:57,190
It's time to play "Anholy Death" live with the original line-up.
524
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,950
The irony is that this also turned out to be the last concert.
525
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:10,030
Breaking News: Man falls from West Seattle lower bridge to death.
526
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:15,610
Kurt Strubing's car flew over a bridge, and the 39-year-old musician died on the spot.
527
00:36:17,470 --> 00:36:24,160
You may have seen the footage yesterday of a crumpled car that fell from the Harbour Island Bridge, which was open for ships.
528
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:30,280
On the news I saw our car turned upside down on the road below.
529
00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:32,800
Everything inside me sank.
530
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,930
Eyewitnesses say Strubing broke through the barriers on the bridge.
531
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:40,090
Police are still trying to figure out what happened.
532
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Two police officers from Des Moines came to us and confirmed that Kurt was dead.
533
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,770
It was a shock. It felt like a bad dream.
534
00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:52,060
It's like a joke. You think, "No, this isn't real."
535
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:53,470
But it turned out to be real.
536
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,570
He crashed into a barrier that was capable of stopping a truck.
537
00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:00,160
At full speed.
538
00:37:00,910 --> 00:37:06,850
There were no problems with the car. They told me straight out: he took his own life.
539
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:16,270
He left work in the middle of the day, without reason.
540
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:19,720
I took a road I usually didn't take.
541
00:37:19,810 --> 00:37:21,370
Turned off the bridge.
542
00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:24,280
I just figured his demons had caught up with him.
543
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:28,480
Nobody knows what exactly pushed him that day.
544
00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:36,220
Everything he had to go through in his life: the story with his father, with his whole life...
545
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,760
It's hard to imagine how to live with this.
546
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:49,270
Was it just from stress in life, from fatigue, or from something else?
547
00:37:49,780 --> 00:37:51,340
I will never know.
548
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:56,410
He must have felt that something was wrong.
549
00:37:56,620 --> 00:38:03,190
I remember my mom asking Kurt point blank:
550
00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:07,570
"Can you promise you won't do to my daughter what you did to my mother?"
551
00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:11,920
And Kurt replied, "I can't promise, but I can promise,
552
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:15,880
that before I hurt anyone, I will kill myself."
553
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:20,590
And he kept his word.
554
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:31,690
I know how much he loved his son. How much he loved his wife. And how much he hated what he did in the past.
555
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,140
But if he felt that way, why didn't he tell me?
556
00:38:35,350 --> 00:38:37,210
It breaks my heart doubly.
557
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:47,050
Witnesses say the bridge was raised at the time. Strubing drove out of the convoy and crashed through two barriers.
558
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,580
Sad news.
559
00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:53,410
But not unexpected. This was a man with a mental breakdown,
560
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:57,700
who, in my opinion, was never given the help he needed.
561
00:38:58,270 --> 00:39:01,510
Did he have any treatment, medication?
562
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:03,070
No.
563
00:39:04,450 --> 00:39:09,970
There was no rehabilitation treatment for anything.
564
00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:12,970
System not sharpened under...
565
00:39:13,150 --> 00:39:13,990
rehabilitation.
566
00:39:14,650 --> 00:39:15,820
She's just not for it.
567
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,860
My life changed a lot when my father died.
568
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:24,250
I felt lonely.
569
00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:25,390
I lost...
570
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,360
childhood, in a sense.
571
00:39:28,510 --> 00:39:36,370
I sank into a hole for years. I decided to drown all my feelings in drugs and alcohol.
572
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,770
And so it was for almost ten years.
573
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,760
My mom and dad took on most of the care for Jared,
574
00:39:42,910 --> 00:39:44,530
because I couldn't.
575
00:39:44,830 --> 00:39:47,680
They began to play a much bigger role in his life until I...
576
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:49,420
was forgotten.
577
00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:52,750
Here is my man.
578
00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:56,320
It's been almost twenty years since I heard his voice.
579
00:39:58,750 --> 00:39:59,590
Hard.
580
00:40:01,090 --> 00:40:03,280
He had so many people around him,
581
00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:11,710
who loved him very much and also...
582
00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:13,600
took care of him.
583
00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:15,970
And he didn't want to hurt anyone.
584
00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:18,310
That's why...
585
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:20,080
I think...
586
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:29,660
I think he decided to take matters into his own hands to prevent this from happening.
587
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,650
And how can I feel anything but gratitude?
588
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:39,020
When Kurt died...
589
00:40:40,170 --> 00:40:42,680
It may sound disgusting, but I felt relieved.
590
00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:48,290
It must have been a relief for him too. It was a very dark chapter in history.
591
00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:54,260
Yes, it was shocking, but inside there was a feeling:
592
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,450
“Well, here it is at last, my friend.
593
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,130
"You are free."
594
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:59,630
That's how I kept it in my memory.
595
00:40:59,770 --> 00:41:02,720
Maybe his pain was finally over.
596
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,570
The best ending would have been if he had asked for help.
597
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:17,090
I don’t know if any doctor ever told him: “When you start feeling this way, go to the hospital.”
598
00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:21,650
He tried his best to live as best he could. He did everything possible.
599
00:41:22,070 --> 00:41:29,780
If I had known he was suffering, I think we would all have been willing to help him get what he needed.
600
00:41:34,350 --> 00:41:36,650
There was a good memorial.
601
00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:43,460
Then we went to his wife’s house, made a fire, cried a lot, talked a lot.
602
00:41:44,330 --> 00:41:46,430
The metal community rallied around him,
603
00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:51,830
Everyone was very caring and considerate of him and what he had done.
604
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,510
He was a man who was passionate about music.
605
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,730
Who loved to share, grow and create.
606
00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:04,460
It was an honor for me to play with him.
607
00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:10,650
"Anholy Death" still sounds powerful to me.
608
00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:17,030
Many metalheads still have this record in their collection,
609
00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:18,900
and they love her.
610
00:42:20,670 --> 00:42:23,880
I never thought she would survive in people's hearts and minds.
611
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:26,360
She always seems to come back up again.
612
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,230
But if young people find her and love her, that’s great.
613
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:32,960
For a long time I couldn't listen to her,
614
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:39,620
but I consider it the greatest American black metal album.
615
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
And I love the time we spent together,
616
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:54,440
and all the stories we've lived through together.
617
00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:03,950
You can't judge him by his crime alone.
618
00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:09,290
You can, but then you miss out on what he was really like.
619
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:14,600
I want to shed light on the Kurt I knew.
620
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:16,940
That's why it's important to me.
621
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,980
A bandmate.
622
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:21,080
Another.
623
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,150
Husband.
624
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:25,370
Father.
625
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:31,790
It's important to me to share how special Kurt was.
626
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:34,970
I have a tattoo: "family"
627
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,510
Here I have "Kurt Strubing", and also the date of birth and death,
628
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:44,510
This is the darkest, boldest tattoo on my arm. It's the first thing I see when I look down.
629
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:49,700
And she constantly reminds me where I come from.54492
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