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[dramatic music]
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VERNON: Three different
national forests,
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three different cases,
and they're all hikers.
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- Investigators are looking
for Gary Michael Hilton.
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- We knew how dangerous he was.
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- This witness felt
so uneasy that they
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decided to just take a picture
in case something happened.
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OPERATOR: Emergency, 911.
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- We found metal chains.
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- Everything I collected had
some kind of blood on it.
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JOHN: Hilton was not
expecting Meredith
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to fight back.
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- I knew I was making
a deal with the devil,
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but it was a deal that
needed to be done.
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[elk calls]
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NARRATOR: Secrets in the wild,
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beautiful yet
treacherous places.
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These are the stories
of the investigators
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who solve crimes
in the wilderness.
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SEARCHERS: Meredith!
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Meredith! Meredith!
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REPORTER: It's been
four days since Meredith
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has been missing, and
police have found now...
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KIMBERLY: The area that
we are searching right now
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is going to be 401 square miles.
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If you put that down, that's
going to be 253,496 acres.
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That's a lot of area for us
to be covering right now.
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PERSON: Because people are
still strongly looking,
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we're still hopeful.
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DAVE: We are thankful
that Ella has been found,
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but Meredith is still out there.
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REPORTER: This person of
interest, Gary Michael Hilton.
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REPORTER: Gary Michael Hilton.
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REPORTER: 61-year-old
Gary Hilton...
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REPORTER: This is the picture
that we have for Mr. Hilton
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at this time.
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PERSON: Same place,
just another day.
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OFFICER: What you
doing out here?
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GARY: Hunting.
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PERSON: Life has been sweet.
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[radio chatter]
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- When we put out his
name and his photo,
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we knew that everybody
was looking for him.
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REPORTER: The police announced
that they were looking
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for a person of interest.
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REPORTER: 61-year-old
Gary Michael Hilton.
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PERSON: Your
instincts tell you,
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get away from this person.
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PERSON: We need him
to come forward.
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CLAY: I was at the command
post on Blood Mountain.
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At approximately 8:00
p.m., 911 calls began
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to go into the DeKalb
County 911 center.
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OPERATOR: Emergency, 911.
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What's the exact location
of the emergency?
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- Gary Hilton, he was seen
at a Chevron gas station
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off Ashford Dunwoody Road
in North metro Atlanta.
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OPERATOR: Please stay
on the line, sir.
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JOHN: The caller described
seeing Gary Hilton
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cleaning out his van.
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[police siren wailing]
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CLAY: It's literally
probably within two minutes
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that DeKalb County
officers arrive
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and take him into custody.
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OFFICER: Police,
show me your hands.
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Get on the ground right now.
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CLAY: Gary Hilton surrendered
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as soon as they approached him.
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VERNON: I was with John
Cagle when the DeKalb County
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Police Department called.
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We got your white van.
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We got Gary Hilton.
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[radio chatter]
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But there's no
Meredith Emerson here.
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- No sign of a victim.
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REPORTER: The search
for Gary Michael Hilton
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ended at this Chevron
station at the corner
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of Ashford Dunwoody
and Johnson Ferry Road.
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- We're hopeful that there
might be a break in this case
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that might lead us to the
whereabouts of Miss Emerson,
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but we don't know at this point.
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REPORTER: They finally have
in custody Gary Michael Hilton
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of DeKalb County, who
was named as a person
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of interest in the disappearance
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of 24-year-old Meredith Emerson.
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- And any question
that he can answer,
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I mean, would be a positive
step in the right direction.
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REPORTER: But police
will not confirm what
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Hilton was doing, only
that missing hiker
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Emerson was not with him.
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- So now we had Hilton.
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REPORTER: Hilton
was hauled off
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to GBI headquarters
for questioning.
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JOHN: We're making
progress, we felt like,
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but we just hadn't
found Meredith.
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And there had been
opportunities.
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- We restarted that search
this morning at 8:00.
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I think that broke
a lot of our hearts,
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that she was not in the van.
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At this time, Miss Peggy Bailey
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from the family, who was
the family's spokesperson,
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would like to make a
statement from the family.
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- Good evening.
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Once again, thank you for...
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JOHN: Peggy and Doug Bailey
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were very close friends
of the Emersons.
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- Dave is still actively
searching the trails.
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Susan's hoping that
word comes soon.
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JOHN: I don't think
Peggy or the Emersons
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ever gave up hope.
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- Hope is pretty much what
her family was holding to.
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- Meredith's middle
name is Hope,
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and that's exactly what
the Lord gives us for her.
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So we are hoping that
we're talking of Meredith
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in the present tense.
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REPORTER: Cheryl Dunlap,
a 46-year-old nurse
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and Sunday school teacher,
disappeared 7 miles from home,
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her car found with a flat tire.
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- Once we knew there was a Gary
Michael Hilton in existence
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as a result of Blood
Mountain, we ran his license,
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and he had been issued a
citation by a forestry officer
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right in the heart of the
Apalachicola National Forest,
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and the date was
completely consistent
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with Cheryl's disappearance.
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We had an onslaught
of tips and sightings.
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One of the sightings was a
campsite off Joe Thomas Road,
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which is out off Highway 20.
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One of our crime
scene detectives
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saw some pine straw that had
covered what looked like there
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maybe had been a
fire or something,
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and so he moved the
straw, and he started
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to find hard fragments.
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And those fragments
were 100% identified
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as skull fragments.
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- There were burned finger
bones and skull bones.
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There were also a plastic
bead and an earring,
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some burned clothing.
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MIKE: Cheryl Dunlap's
remains, couldn't get DNA
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from them because they
had been so, so burned
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at high temperatures.
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I mean, he burned her
hands and her head
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and beat it into pulp,
so as to hide the things
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that he was trying to hide.
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AMY: As soon as I saw
the bead at the fire pit,
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I thought that they were
very similar to the ones
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that were in her vehicle.
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Any time you come in
contact with something,
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you'll leave something behind,
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and then you'll
take something away.
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It's like a triangle.
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We're linking a
victim, a suspect,
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and a scene together.
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And I found a clump of hair.
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It was the same exact color of
the pine straw that was there.
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And in Cheryl Dunlap's
car, I found a long hair,
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and it was from a
golden retriever.
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MIKE: We really felt
like we had our suspect.
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We felt like Gary was our guy.
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HAROLD: After Hilton
was arrested in Georgia,
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several individuals advised they
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saw Hilton in North Carolina.
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We still don't know
where John Bryant is.
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The Sheriff's Department
heard from an individual
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that happened to be in
one of the National Forest
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picnic areas at Sycamore
Flats in Brevard,
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and that individual
saw Gary Michael Hilton
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in his white van with
his dog unloading
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the van at the picnic area.
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This witness felt so uneasy
that they decided to just take
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a picture of it in case
something happened,
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and that picture places
him without a doubt
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in the area of the crime
scene a couple of weeks
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before the murder
of Irene Bryant.
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- We felt confident that
he was our prime suspect,
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but we had not yet developed a
sufficient amount of evidence
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to pursue it in court.
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- Had that photo come sooner,
we would have definitely
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done something different.
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He lived off the grid.
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So he wasn't in the system.
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DAVID: How do we go
from proving he was here
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at the right time to proving
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he was specifically at that
scene with the Bryants?
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We shared these
photographs with Georgia
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so that we could really
begin that relationship
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to work this together.
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[dramatic music]
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JOHN: While Hilton
was being transferred
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to GBI headquarters,
I had two teams
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scouring for evidence that might
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help us find the location
of Meredith Emerson.
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REPORTER: Investigators
searched Gary Hilton's
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white Astro van well
into early Saturday
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morning at this Chevron.
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It's also where they
found Hilton and his dog,
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Dandy, Friday night.
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- When I first opened the
van, my impression was wow.
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There's a lot of crap in here.
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It was full of garbage
bags and tote containers
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and just all kinds of stuff.
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Hilton was making trips
from the van to the dumpster
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at the Chevron.
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There were a lot of things
on the ground around the van.
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He was in the process
of cleaning it out.
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So we started in the dumpster.
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There were some critical
pieces of evidence in there...
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sleeping bags, a
couple of duffel bags,
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some pornography,
camping gear, bedrolls.
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Gary was trying to get
rid of anything in the van
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that he could see
had visible blood,
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because everything I collected
had visible blood on it.
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We tagged almost 700
pieces of evidence.
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CLAY: Directly behind
the driver's seat
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and the passenger
seat was a space
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all the way across the van,
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but everything from there
on back was just packed.
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JEFF: Then we go to
the van and start
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looking at the interior for
hairs, fibers, blood stains.
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What's going to tell us
something that we don't know?
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What's going to help us
find where Meredith is?
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I found a yellow rain jacket
with a fluorescent stripe.
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CLAY: There was some blood
found on some paper towels.
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There was some blood found
on the driver's side seat.
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JEFF: There was a transfer
pattern on the back
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of the driver's seat.
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It looked like a hair pattern
where blood had gotten
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in contact with the hair.
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I assumed it would be
Meredith's or Gary's.
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The scene at the Chevron
probably took us four or five
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hours to get processed.
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We had the van towed.
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I left there, and I went to
GBI headquarters in Atlanta.
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JOHN: Mitchell Posey had
found some disturbing evidence
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in a dumpster at the
QuikTrip gas station.
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So I drove down
from Blood Mountain
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to look at everything myself.
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MITCHELL: When
John Cagle arrived
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at the crime scene lab, he
asked me for a briefing.
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He asked me to tell him what
we had and what it meant.
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We found metal chains with
nylon rope attached to it.
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That told me that Meredith
had probably been tied up.
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I told him about the black
zip ties that had been cut.
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We found bloody clothes.
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We found hiking pants that
had blood spatter on them,
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and we found boots that had
blood spatter on it as well.
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JOHN: There was a fleece
that had blood on it.
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MITCHELL: The neckline
was saturated in blood.
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JOHN: This was heavy blood
that you could wring out.
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- My thoughts were
battling each other.
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I said, John, I
don't think someone
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would still be alive with this
much blood on the neckline.
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I could tell he did
not want to hear that.
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JOHN: I actually called
our medical examiner,
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and I said let me
describe this to you.
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Could someone survive after
losing that much blood?
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But I knew that they couldn't.
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I knew I had to do one
thing, and that's come talk
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to the Emersons...
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reminding myself I needed
to tell them the truth.
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REPORTER: Georgia Bureau
of Investigation spokesman
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John Bankhead was pressed
about whether there's
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any proof Emerson
might still be alive.
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- It does not look favorable
for that to be the case.
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- So we went back to the cabin
where they were staying and had
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to break the news
to her both parents
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that it doesn't appear that
Meredith has survived this.
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KIMBERLY: That was the
worst part of being
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the public information
officer for this,
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is knowing what we knew.
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- I was able to report that
we had arrested Gary Hilton.
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I let them know
what we had found,
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and it was obviously not
what they had hoped for.
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MITCHELL: They held on
to each other, cried.
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KIMBERLY: That really
broke my heart...
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Because I knew that that
positive part was done.
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- We got the news yesterday,
and that was devastating
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for them to hear it
change to recovery.
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But they are holding
strong for Meredith.
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CLAY: John Cagle looked at me.
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He said, go and find
out where she's at.
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[dramatic music]
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REPORTER: GBI agents
transferred Hilton
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to the Union County
Jail, where he was booked
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on a charge of kidnapping
with bodily injury
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in connection with
the disappearance
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of 24-year-old hiker
and Gwinnett County
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resident Meredith Emerson.
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CLAY: Before I even
introduced myself to him,
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I took pictures.
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He had a visible fingernail mark
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in the very point of his
nose, like a defense wound.
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He had a broken hand,
and it was crushed.
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And it looked like he was
in a really good fight.
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He was on the floor,
laying on his side.
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He says that he was having
a multiple sclerosis attack,
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and he said, I need my medicine.
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I actually spoke
with the doctor,
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and she said that he doesn't
have multiple sclerosis,
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not even symptoms of it.
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He would not talk to us.
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I basically laid on
the floor next to him
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and introduced myself.
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I said, hi, Mr. Hilton.
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My name is Clay Bridges,
and he cut me off.
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He said, I'm making
no statements.
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I'm waiving no rights.
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I want to have an
attorney present with me
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before any questioning.
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My primary mission was
finding Meredith's body
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so that we could deliver
her back to her family.
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There was nothing that he
could say at that point
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that I could use against
him in a court of law.
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During the investigation,
I had the opportunity
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to talk to Hilton's ex-wife,
Sue, who was a former
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Stone Mountain police officer.
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She told me about a dog
that he used to have
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back in the '90s named Ranger.
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He loved that dog more
than anything or anybody
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in the whole world, ever.
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She told me about a
shrine that he had built
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for the dog in Stone Mountain.
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I didn't know where
that place was,
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but I told him that I did.
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I said, listen, I know
where Ranger is located now.
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And I said, I want you
to think about something.
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I want you to think about
this girl and her family
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not knowing where
she's laid to rest.
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And he just stared through me.
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I said, if you're not going to
talk to me, I'm going to go,
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and I'm going to dig
Ranger up, and I'm going
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to move him to where you'll
never know where he's at.
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He looked sharply
at me and snarled
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the most terrible
snarl and said,
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just put the needle
in my arm, bitch.
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JOHN: Once we collected the
blood in the van, of course,
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we submitted it
to the crime lab.
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We also submitted
the bloody clothing
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we found in the dumpster
at the QuikTrip.
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CLAY: Our director, Vernon
Keenan, had dedicated
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a DNA analyst to
us for this case.
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We worked her to death
because there was so much DNA.
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We were getting DNA from
hundreds of samples of blood
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from the van, hundreds
of samples of blood
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from both dumpsters.
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So she's pretty overwhelmed
at that point with one case.
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JOHN: We determined that
Meredith Emerson's blood
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was both in the van
and on the items
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from the QuikTrip dumpster.
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When I looked into his
eyes, he's just evil.
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He's dangerous.
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But he knew where Meredith was.
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He was the only hope that
we could find her quickly.
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I know I felt a lot of pressure.
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[phone ringing]
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The next morning, I get
a call that he had been
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appointed a lawyer,
and I went directly
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to the Union County Jail.
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And I met with the lawyer,
and I said I want to know
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where Meredith
Emerson is right now.
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Go talk to him, and I
will wait right here.
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Finally, Hilton's lawyers
came out and asked me
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if I would call the
local prosecutor
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and ask him if he
would consider taking
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the death penalty off
the table in exchange
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for the whereabouts of Meredith.
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VERNON: For him to be promised
that the state would not
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seek the death penalty for
Meredith Emerson's murder
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combined with the
volume of evidence
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that we had in the case
that was against him,
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that would be the best deal
he was ever going to get.
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Because in the state of Georgia,
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you can convict somebody
and not have the body.
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JOHN: I think the
Emersons understood
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what we were trying to do.
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CLAY: We wanted to provide
them with that closure,
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and we were willing to
give up seeking the death
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penalty in that
situation because it's
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the right thing to do.
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JOHN: And so the prosecutor
in Union County agreed,
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told Hilton's lawyers
that we would do that.
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But they wanted
him to sleep on it.
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I had to keep my composure
and keep this thing going.
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I knew I was making a
deal with the devil,
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but it was a deal that
needed to be done.
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CLAY: It would have made me
feel like I was making a deal
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with the devil had I not
known that I was looking
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at a certain two more
shots at the death penalty
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with North Carolina and Florida.
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We had two more
bites of the apple.
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REPORTER: Investigators from
North Carolina's State Bureau
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of Investigation
rolled into Georgia
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with boxes of case
files, hoping the leads
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and all of the bags of evidence
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from the Meredith Emerson
case could help crack theirs.
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JOHN: Early on in our
case, when we just
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got organized up there
on Blood Mountain,
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we didn't know anything.
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- First time it really
resonated with me was actually
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on the phone with you guys
prior to this meeting,
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the ATM photos y'all
were sending us.
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MIKE: And then the ATM thing
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gave it a real criminal element,
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but we struggled to identify
a suspect of any kind
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because bad people do
bad things to each other.
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You know, he was
living off the grid.
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- Those are your
hardest criminals
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to identify and capture.
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They have no ties
to the community.
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They're just nomads.
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- I mean, this guy
lives in the forest.
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You know, theft
here, theft there.
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And he just seemed
somehow to survive.
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We found maps of different
National Forest locations
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and campgrounds, both
state and federal,
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that he kept with
him, and we could
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trace some of his travels.
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- He wasn't smart enough
to take the evidence
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out of his van as a
statement to the fact
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that he was so alone.
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JOHN: We knew that his van
was going to be extremely
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important to the successful
prosecution of Hilton
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in all of these jurisdictions.
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- If you look at the timelines,
his hunger for killing
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was increasing.
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[phone ringing]
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JOHN: On January 7th, I got
a call from the prosecutor
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who said that we had a deal.
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So myself, Director
Keenan, and Clay Bridges
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traveled up to Union County.
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As soon as we got there, they
brought him into an office.
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I said, I understand
that you want
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to tell us where Meredith is.
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And when he said Dawson Forest,
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of course I knew
exactly what that was.
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[dramatic music]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- My name's William Thacker.
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I work for the
Georgia Department
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of Natural Resources.
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JOHN: William
Thacker, he was born
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and raised in these mountains.
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If there was ever anybody that I
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would trust to find
things in Dawson Forest,
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it's William Thacker.
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VERNON: Dawson Forest is a
unique piece of property.
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JOHN: It is thick forest,
several thousand acres.
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VERNON: Very desolate,
heavily wooded,
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and it had a surreal,
eerie feeling,
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even if you weren't
looking for a body.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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JOHN: I asked Hilton
if she was buried,
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and he said no,
that she was just
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covered with leaves and brush.
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He began to draw a map,
and he began to tell
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us details where she was.
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You know, you walk 120
feet down Shoal Creek Road.
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CLAY: It's basically
a dirt road.
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There's nothing...
nothing there.
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JOHN: I asked him
if she was intact,
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and he said the head
would be missing.
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I asked him where
her head would be,
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and he began to
tell me, giving me
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more directions which sounded
like about a mile away.
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We wanted to find all
the remains that night,
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but I was not convinced that we
could find both crime scenes.
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So we made the
decision to carry him
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with us down to Dawson Forest.
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Clay Bridges traveled with him
and his lawyer in a prison van
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from the Sheriff's Office,
and I went ahead of them.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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CLAY: When we're transporting
Hilton to Dawson Forest,
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I took the opportunity to have
him take me through the crime
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step by step.
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It is standard practice
for the GBI to record
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all interviews with suspects.
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He had identified Meredith
walking on the trail
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that January 1st.
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She was alone.
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She was hiking with
a dog, which was good
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because he had a
dog, she had a dog.
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It was a good way to meet up.
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He struck up a
conversation with her,
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and they hiked along
for a little bit.
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Then all of a sudden,
she just took off...
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So he concealed
himself in the woods.
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Hilton was very physically fit,
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working out all the time.
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He felt confident that he
could overpower a woman.
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When he saw her coming
back down the trail,
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he jumped out from
behind a tree,
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and showed her the
bayonet and said,
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I just want your
card and PIN number.
500
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:08,680
And then he said she
grabbed the knife
501
00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:10,390
and took it away from him.
502
00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:12,360
Hilton was not
expecting Meredith
503
00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:14,430
to fight back like that.
504
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,600
I knew that Meredith
studied martial arts.
505
00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:20,510
She's not scared to fight.
506
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:24,150
He said he went to the baton,
507
00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:26,320
and then she took
that away from him.
508
00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:31,130
She kept fighting and fighting.
509
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,430
Meredith almost got
the best of him.
510
00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:35,910
He showed her the gun.
511
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:37,286
He said, I'll kill
you right here.
512
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:38,940
I'll put a bullet in you.
513
00:27:40,550 --> 00:27:45,020
He got control of her finally
and carried her off the trail.
514
00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:49,330
He tied her around
a tree and told her
515
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,070
that if she yelled out
or screamed or anything,
516
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:54,210
he was going to kill her dog.
517
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:57,620
He had lost his baton.
518
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,060
He said she had lost
several items there as well,
519
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,030
and when he got back
to the fight scene,
520
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,930
he said there was somebody there
521
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,840
already picking the stuff up.
522
00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:12,880
He kept thinking that the
guy had found something,
523
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:14,180
was calling law enforcement,
524
00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:16,420
so he had to get
her out of there.
525
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:18,420
He waited for a
little bit longer,
526
00:28:18,490 --> 00:28:20,460
and then he moved
her down the trail
527
00:28:20,530 --> 00:28:23,670
to the parking area,
528
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:25,400
got in her car,
529
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:29,910
and she was telling him that
her card was under the seat.
530
00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:33,220
He got it, and he
told her to get
531
00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:35,490
in the van with her dog
Ella, or he was going
532
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,700
to kill her and kill the dog.
533
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,710
♪♪ ♪♪
534
00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:48,280
He kept Meredith chained to
the back of the driver's seat.
535
00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:53,260
He drove her to the ATM...
536
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:55,230
♪♪ ♪♪
537
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,400
And she gave him the
wrong PIN number.
538
00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:01,110
He said, she just kept giving
me the wrong PIN number
539
00:29:01,180 --> 00:29:03,510
and convincing me that I
was doing something wrong,
540
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,480
and I believed her.
541
00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:08,790
So he left there and
went to Gainesville,
542
00:29:08,860 --> 00:29:10,160
because she convinced him
543
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:12,400
that he needed to
try a different PIN.
544
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:19,650
♪♪ ♪♪
545
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:23,320
The next day, he drives
her to the Canton area,
546
00:29:23,390 --> 00:29:27,530
where he attempts to
utilize her ATM card again.
547
00:29:40,590 --> 00:29:42,990
CLAY: He told her, look, I
just want your PIN number.
548
00:29:43,060 --> 00:29:44,160
I don't want to hurt you.
549
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:46,230
Just give me your PIN number.
550
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:50,340
She still gives him
the wrong PIN number.
551
00:29:50,410 --> 00:29:53,110
She's thinking that's going to
get us to her, that it's going
552
00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:56,090
to help get him captured.
553
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:27,850
CLAY: He says that once
you've taken somebody,
554
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,050
you either kill them
or you get caught.
555
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:36,100
But she's going to go out
on her terms and not his.
556
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,610
Night of January the 2nd, he
drives her to Dawson Forest.
557
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,190
They spend the entire day on
January 3rd in Dawson Forest.
558
00:30:50,860 --> 00:30:55,070
On January the 4th, they're
camping in Dawson Forest.
559
00:30:56,870 --> 00:31:01,180
Well, he leaves that
campsite and is headed out,
560
00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:04,390
and a DNR Ranger
meets him in the road,
561
00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:07,330
and Hilton throws his
hand up and waves at him.
562
00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:10,400
And he said he saw the
guy hit his brakes.
563
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:12,540
She was right there
in the van behind me.
564
00:31:12,610 --> 00:31:14,270
It was that close.
565
00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:18,620
And he says, they're
going to find us.
566
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,630
So he panics and goes
to a different location
567
00:31:22,690 --> 00:31:25,130
in Dawson Forest.
568
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,840
He hangs out for a while
at the van to make sure
569
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:29,670
that the cops aren't coming.
570
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,080
You know, once he
realizes nobody's coming,
571
00:31:34,150 --> 00:31:36,250
nobody's searching, he
gets her out of the van.
572
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,260
He says, I'm going
to let you go.
573
00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:52,380
CLAY: And then he
chained her to a tree.
574
00:31:52,450 --> 00:31:54,290
And she says, no, no,
no. Don't leave me.
575
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,960
He says, look, I'm going
to go get your stuff.
576
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:28,420
- And then he
takes her head off.
577
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880
So he takes her head
to a different location
578
00:32:39,950 --> 00:32:43,290
within Dawson Forest
for forensic purposes,
579
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:46,590
so that, you know, it's
harder to identify her.
580
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:50,740
And he conceals it
on top of the ground.
581
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,410
He says, leaving it exposed
to the elements gets rid
582
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,050
of it faster.
583
00:32:57,380 --> 00:33:00,090
JOHN: I think that he
didn't do that to her
584
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:02,290
because of forensic concerns.
585
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,330
He did it because he liked it.
586
00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:49,420
VERNON: They pull
up in the van.
587
00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:51,290
John Cagle was already there.
588
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,430
He had found her body
but not her head.
589
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,500
Clay Bridges gets
out of the vehicle,
590
00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:03,880
and I had never seen a look
of shock on somebody's face
591
00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:05,550
that was on Clay Bridges'.
592
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:17,240
By now we're deep
into the forest,
593
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:19,710
walked him down a little road.
594
00:34:22,420 --> 00:34:26,830
He said, OK, stop here
and walk up the bank,
595
00:34:26,890 --> 00:34:31,840
and you'll find a dead
tree on the ground.
596
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,210
He said at one end of the
tree there would be more
597
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,210
clothes belonging to Meredith.
598
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,690
And at the other end
would be her head.
599
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,970
I began on my hands and
knees, spreading back
600
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,440
leaves and brush as I went,
and I found what looked
601
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:53,050
to be a mound of leaves.
602
00:34:53,110 --> 00:34:56,820
And I began to brush
back those leaves,
603
00:34:56,890 --> 00:34:59,290
and there she was.
604
00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:07,740
- Just from the
look on his face,
605
00:35:07,810 --> 00:35:11,280
I knew it was there.
606
00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:15,630
John asked me to
secure that site
607
00:35:15,690 --> 00:35:20,000
while they did a quick search
of the rest of the area.
608
00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:22,870
I sat down on the log, and I did
609
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:25,240
say a prayer for her family.
610
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:28,220
But...
611
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:38,540
- I said, stay with Meredith.
We're not going to leave her.
612
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:42,186
WILLIAM: You can't forget
something like that.
613
00:35:42,210 --> 00:35:44,720
I can still see her right now.
614
00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:48,720
I can still see
the face right now.
615
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:52,300
That stuff don't go away.
616
00:35:55,810 --> 00:35:58,240
CLAY: I walked down
there, and she's
617
00:35:58,310 --> 00:36:00,410
still got leaves and brush.
618
00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:04,860
That's when everything
came flooding in
619
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,330
because you get to
know this person almost
620
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,170
as good as you know anybody,
621
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:13,610
as one of your
friends or family.
622
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:17,050
Then you listen to
this guy almost brag
623
00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:20,350
about how efficient
he is in capturing her
624
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:26,130
and raping her and killing her,
625
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,770
and I lost it.
626
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,110
I just... I...
627
00:36:30,170 --> 00:36:31,240
I lost it.
628
00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:32,910
I...
629
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:40,630
JOHN: I knew I had
to call the Emersons.
630
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:42,370
And at that time, the
Emersons were staying
631
00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:45,400
with Doug and Peggy
Bailey in Athens.
632
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,810
And so I call Peggy,
and I ask Peggy
633
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,050
to let them know that we'd
found her, and hung up.
634
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:59,970
But I realized I had not told
them about the decapitation,
635
00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:03,110
so I called back and
told Peggy that Meredith
636
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:05,410
had been decapitated, but we had
637
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,620
recovered all of her remains.
638
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960
There was silence on
the phone, obviously.
639
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,170
And then she said she
would, and she hung up,
640
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:22,210
and I just started to cry.
641
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:29,420
♪♪ ♪♪
642
00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:49,670
We began to dismantle
the command post
643
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:52,000
and the search teams...
644
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,620
All the support staff at Vogel,
645
00:37:59,690 --> 00:38:02,120
the volunteers
from the community
646
00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:04,760
that were feeding everybody.
647
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:08,670
This was a big blow for
our entire community.
648
00:38:09,570 --> 00:38:12,340
- We would like to thank
the untold number of friends
649
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:15,080
and volunteers and
family who helped search
650
00:38:15,150 --> 00:38:17,520
and support us all...
and support all of us
651
00:38:17,590 --> 00:38:20,360
at this tragic and
troubling time.
652
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:28,280
JOHN: The family had a
memorial service for Meredith
653
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:30,080
in Athens.
654
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:33,250
Huge numbers of people that
didn't even know her came.
655
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,730
People were standing out
front in the parking lot.
656
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:38,030
They just wanted to be there,
657
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,100
even though they
couldn't get in.
658
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:47,110
♪♪ ♪♪
659
00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:58,070
REPORTER: Deputies brought
Gary Michael Hilton
660
00:38:58,140 --> 00:38:59,770
to the Dawson County Jail.
661
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,580
JOHN: Once we discovered
Meredith's body
662
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,680
in Dawson County, we
knew that that would be
663
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:06,250
the venue where he would
be charged with murder,
664
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,790
and it's a different prosecutor
665
00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:09,790
and a different
judicial circuit.
666
00:39:09,860 --> 00:39:14,070
- On January 4, 2008,
Gary Michael Hilton
667
00:39:14,130 --> 00:39:17,440
did unlawfully and with
malice and forethought
668
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:19,710
cause the death of
another human being,
669
00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:21,780
Meredith Hope Emerson,
670
00:39:21,850 --> 00:39:24,020
by blunt force
trauma to the head.
671
00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:27,430
JOHN: We charged
him in Dawson County
672
00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:29,570
with one count of murder.
673
00:39:30,570 --> 00:39:32,040
- I'm Lee Darragh.
674
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,610
I'm the district attorney
for the Northeastern
675
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,980
Judicial Circuit of Georgia.
676
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:41,150
When the body was found, it
became my case at that point.
677
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,800
There was a chance that his
confession might be thrown out
678
00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:50,240
because it was made
under a promise
679
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:53,780
of a more lenient sentence.
680
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,590
And I decided that the
best course to take
681
00:39:56,650 --> 00:39:59,330
was simply to tell the
defense attorney, fine,
682
00:39:59,390 --> 00:40:01,200
I'll honor this case.
683
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,130
But he's got to accept
the life sentence
684
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,200
for the murder of
Meredith Emerson,
685
00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:08,180
and he's got to do it quick.
686
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,520
I said, if you don't
close it by January 31st,
687
00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:14,590
that deal made
was off the table.
688
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:26,110
- Gary Hilton was convicted
in Superior Court of murder
689
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:28,220
on January 31st.
690
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,460
- The father of Meredith Hope
Emerson is Mr. David Emerson.
691
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,230
He would like to
address the court.
692
00:40:34,290 --> 00:40:36,100
JOHN: The Emersons were
given the opportunity
693
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:38,900
to make a statement during
the sentencing hearing.
694
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:43,410
- Your Honor, we stand before
you as brokenhearted parents,
695
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,520
having lost our beloved
daughter to the vicious murder
696
00:40:47,590 --> 00:40:49,790
committed by Mr. Hilton.
697
00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:55,500
Our days are filled with tears,
698
00:40:55,570 --> 00:40:58,210
blank stares,
699
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,980
and we constantly
struggle through each day.
700
00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:05,420
- Your Honor, Mrs. Susan
Emerson, the mother
701
00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:07,930
of Meredith.
702
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,600
- Your Honor, as far as
I'm concerned, there is
703
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:13,610
no such thing as
justice in this case.
704
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:15,940
Nothing will bring
our daughter back.
705
00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:18,720
I have no doubt that her
goodness and light intimidated
706
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:20,120
the hell out of him.
707
00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:22,930
The truth is she is stronger
and brighter than ever
708
00:41:22,990 --> 00:41:26,030
while he has been diminished.
709
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,670
JUDGE: Do you
have any question?
710
00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:29,740
- No, Your Honor.
711
00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:35,580
CLAY: This case came
and went so fast,
712
00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:41,400
and that may be the reason
that it's so hard to digest.
713
00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:44,640
It's almost like being
below a dam when it busts,
714
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:49,680
and you get washed away,
and then it's over with.
715
00:41:57,130 --> 00:42:00,730
CLAY: We knew at that point
that he was a serial killer,
716
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,380
but we didn't know how
vast his range was.
717
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,750
VERNON: Three different cases,
718
00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:08,750
three different
national forests,
719
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:10,790
and they're all hikers.
720
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:12,260
That's commonality,
721
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,600
and so we knew how
dangerous he was.
722
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:18,570
[dramatic music]
723
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,970
♪♪ ♪♪
724
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,950
CLAY: Did a background
interview with him,
725
00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:27,350
and we were doing that for
Florida and North Carolina
726
00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:31,260
to assist law enforcement
with their investigations.
727
00:42:32,570 --> 00:42:37,170
You go into an interrogation,
and you have to convince
728
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:40,010
them that you feel
the same way they do.
729
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,720
It's not easy to do,
but it's something
730
00:42:41,780 --> 00:42:43,020
you train yourself to do.
731
00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,870
JOHN: Just like
most serial killers,
732
00:42:49,930 --> 00:42:51,770
Gary Hilton likes to brag.
733
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,610
He likes to talk in circles,
734
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,310
thought he was smarter
than everybody.
735
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:06,100
- If Gary's talking and he
feels like he's in control,
736
00:43:06,170 --> 00:43:08,800
then he will talk
about everything.
737
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,940
JOHN: The FBI profilers
were watching the interview
738
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,970
in an adjoining room.
739
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,350
MARY: My name is
Mary Ellen O'Toole.
740
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,260
I was in law enforcement
for 4 1/2 years
741
00:43:38,330 --> 00:43:42,440
before I joined the FBI in
the behavioral analysis unit.
742
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,310
I specialize in psychopathy.
743
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:48,180
Psychopaths, that's the
new term for sociopath,
744
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:50,420
these are people that
have no conscience.
745
00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:53,160
They have no remorse
for what they do.
746
00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:56,170
So we were working with GBI
to really develop a better
747
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:57,940
understanding of Gary Hilton.
748
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:07,090
- One of the 20 traits of
psychopathy is grandiosity.
749
00:44:07,150 --> 00:44:10,390
And when you are grandiose,
you have a tendency
750
00:44:10,460 --> 00:44:13,100
to want to dominate
and to want to talk.
751
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:21,310
MARY: My experience has
been that the more you can
752
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:24,620
get them talking, the more
likely it is that they'll say
753
00:44:24,690 --> 00:44:26,490
something that is compromising.
754
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,900
- I know it. You know it.
755
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,476
JOHN: We're kind of
hopeful that he might
756
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,870
slip up and mention some
of these other killings
757
00:44:31,940 --> 00:44:33,410
in North Carolina and Florida.
758
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,520
CLAY: Periodically,
you'll see I'll leave
759
00:44:39,590 --> 00:44:42,820
the room to get more coffee or
ask him if he needs anything.
760
00:44:42,890 --> 00:44:45,160
I'm actually going
next door to ask them,
761
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:47,000
do you want me to ask
him anything else?
762
00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:48,500
- I heard a wildlife
biologist...
763
00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:50,470
MARY: We'd focus on him.
764
00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:53,210
What's his history?
What are his patterns?
765
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,720
So your goal is
to get a timeline
766
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:57,920
and to see where he's been,
767
00:44:57,990 --> 00:45:00,900
and then you compare
that to cases
768
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,300
where people have
been reported missing
769
00:45:03,370 --> 00:45:05,800
or there have been
unidentified bodies.
770
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,190
- Gary Hilton talked
about his life growing up,
771
00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:18,630
traveling around the
country with his mother
772
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:20,030
and stepfather.
773
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:26,286
JOHN: He didn't appreciate
the way his stepfather was
774
00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:29,280
treating his mother, and
his stepfather had just
775
00:45:29,350 --> 00:45:32,420
made an offhand remark, and
he said, well, just shoot me,
776
00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:35,300
and so he just shot him.
777
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,800
Didn't kill him.
778
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:39,840
After that, he stayed a
while in some kind of home
779
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:42,110
down there in Florida.
780
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:43,986
MARY: Well, you have to be
careful because if you're
781
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:48,890
dealing with someone who is
cunning and manipulative,
782
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,960
somebody that's a
pathological liar,
783
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:53,530
you cannot take
everything at face value.
784
00:45:54,970 --> 00:45:56,670
JOHN: He talked
about his experience
785
00:45:56,740 --> 00:45:59,180
in the military overseas.
786
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,490
He was married several
times and divorced.
787
00:46:04,450 --> 00:46:06,960
He bragged about staying
in good physical shape,
788
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:10,000
that he could run the trails.
789
00:46:10,070 --> 00:46:13,440
The only emotional attachment
he had was to dogs.
790
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:17,780
MARY: I'm not questioning
that he didn't love dogs,
791
00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:21,620
but they were a conduit to
strike up a conversation
792
00:46:21,690 --> 00:46:23,260
with potential victims.
793
00:46:25,230 --> 00:46:27,130
CLAY: He murdered Meredith,
794
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,370
but he wouldn't
harm Meredith's dog.
795
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:34,780
JOHN: He said he was killing
for money, that he needed gas,
796
00:46:34,850 --> 00:46:36,420
he needed food.
797
00:46:36,490 --> 00:46:39,060
I think that might have
been an initial motivation,
798
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,460
but once he took somebody,
I think it shifted.
799
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:11,020
- The way that he treated
his victims was unbelievably
800
00:47:11,090 --> 00:47:14,600
violent and just a
stunning lack of empathy
801
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:16,430
for a fellow human being.
802
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:23,880
MITCHELL: I think his ultimate
goal was to take their life.
803
00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:26,090
The power that he felt,
the thrill that he
804
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:27,450
felt from taking their life.
805
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:33,630
CLAY: It's extremely hard to
sit within a short distance
806
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:37,470
from him without putting
your hands around his throat.
807
00:47:38,910 --> 00:47:41,050
It was about control.
808
00:47:41,110 --> 00:47:43,750
That's what a
psychopath is about...
809
00:47:43,820 --> 00:47:45,120
controlling somebody.
810
00:47:49,330 --> 00:47:54,110
CLAY: You do not become a
psychopath at 61 years old.
811
00:47:54,170 --> 00:47:58,150
You become that in your
late teens, early 20s.
812
00:47:59,350 --> 00:48:00,626
JOHN: And I don't
think you just wake up
813
00:48:00,650 --> 00:48:02,530
and start doing that.
814
00:48:02,590 --> 00:48:04,630
Nobody believes that.
815
00:48:07,630 --> 00:48:09,470
We got calls from all
over the United States
816
00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:12,040
that had missing hikers
or missing people
817
00:48:12,110 --> 00:48:14,080
near the National Forest,
818
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:16,480
and that's why it was so
important for us to try
819
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:19,890
to backtrack on
Hilton's movements.
820
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,460
- He picks his
locations carefully.
821
00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:25,370
He could drive around in
his van to any location
822
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,870
really in the U.S.,
victimizing people,
823
00:48:27,940 --> 00:48:30,380
and no one would ever know.
824
00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:31,980
HAROLD: He spent
years traveling
825
00:48:32,050 --> 00:48:34,560
around the Southeastern
United States.
826
00:48:36,890 --> 00:48:39,600
Just how many more
victims are out there?
827
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,870
Where is John Bryant?
828
00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:44,710
It's just a huge unknown.
829
00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:51,720
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