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Subtitle by Lionfacial
January 2025
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This is KQQK Talk Radio
with Stella Sidney.
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Ms. Sidney's guest
today is Dr. Jeremy Lodge,
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psychologist, lecturer,
leading authority on incest,
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and best-selling author of
"Incest, the Family Taboo".
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Welcome, Dr. Lodge.
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Dr. Lodge, your book
"Incest, the Family Taboo"
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seems quite unorthodox in that you blame
what you call today's permissive society as
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being responsible for today's alarming
increase in reported cases of incest.
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Would you care to amplify your position
before we take our first call?
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Well, first I'd like to say
that my research in this field
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is the most extensive in the field and it
has proven me right time and time again.
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In my forthcoming book I discuss
adultery as the primary cause of incest.
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Now, unorthodox as it may sound,
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I'm convinced that women
that cheat on their husbands
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are the primary causal factor in many
fathers turning to their daughters
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as a means of getting even.
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Now, I speak in layman's terms
for the radio audience.
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On the other hand,
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many wives turn to
adolescent sons as substitute lovers
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for either errant or inept husbands.
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We'll take a break before our first call.
Now, don't go away.
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Have you been listening to your
crazy husband on the radio?
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Don't forget, he's your crazy brother
as well as my crazy husband.
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Besides, maybe he's crazy like a fox.
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You better be more careful.
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Yeah, sure.
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Hello, you're on the air.
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Hello?
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Hello, you're on the air.
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This is Charles from San Mateo.
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I've read your book,
and I think you're off your rocker.
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To my knowledge, no one has ever
correlated incest with infidelity.
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Huh, Charles, I beg to differ with you.
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There is a very definite correlation
between adultery and incest.
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In my forthcoming book...
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- Oh, you're full of shit!
- Thank you. Thank you, Charles.
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Hello, KQQK Talk Radio.
You're on the air.
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I've been married for two months,
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and my husband loves
to watch me have sex with other men.
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And it wasn't until after
we got married that I found out.
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And now I'm beginning to like it.
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Would you call that adultery?
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Yes, I would definitely, and I...
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I recommend that you and your
husband seek counseling immediately.
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Thank you.
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We are talking to Dr. Jeremy Lodge
on the subject of incest.
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Please try to keep
your phone calls on that subject.
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I'm sorry, Dr. Lodge,
but it seems to me that...
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there would have to be
more emotional,
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deeper, more traumatic reasons
for incest than simple adultery.
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Well yes, in fact there is
one other significant causal factor.
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I believe that the lack of discipline...
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in today's family is one of
the primary roots of society's problems.
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And I firmly believe that
until they are mature adults...
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that both sexes
should be segregated...
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to protect them...
from outside stimulation.
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For example, in my own family,
I have two daughters.
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They have a very strict upbringing,
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and they will be going to private
girl schools, until they graduate.
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How come you're
fixing yourself up?
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You're not sneaking out
again tonight, are you, Naomi?
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Don't bug me, Robin.
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No, I'm not sneaking out
again tonight, okay?
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Richie's coming here.
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What?
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Don't you ever get enough?
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What if we get caught?
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God knows what Dad will say or do.
You heard him on the radio today.
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No one's going to know.
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We're not going to get caught.
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That's what you always say.
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Well, you just better be sure
he's out of here by bed check.
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He'll be out of here before bed check.
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Don't worry.
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Well, good night, Naomi.
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Come on Richie, come on,
you're late, come on.
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Shh.
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Make sure she's asleep.
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- Take your pants off.
- Oh.
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Hurry.
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Hurry.
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Richie?
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I've got to get my sister in on this,
so she won't have anything on me.
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Like what?
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Blackmail.
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Come here.
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Come on Richie, let's go.
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I don't see how anybody could sleep
through something like this.
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All right, young man!
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Young man, what do you think
you're doing here?
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Get out of here this instant!
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Oh, crud!
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Oh, no!
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I've warned you repeatedly, Naomi Lodge.
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We will not tolerate behavior
of this sort at Miss Fletcher's school.
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But Miss, Miss, Miss Allison.
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I'm calling your father in the morning.
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You may as well
start packing your things.
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We will not stand
for this sort of shenanigans.
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I cannot tell you how... upset
this will make your father, Naomi.
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You may as well go out
the front door, young man.
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No, thanks.
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Sorry, Naomi.
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Your dear, lovely,
sweet father will be heartbroken.
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Now see what you did, Naomi.
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You are always getting me in trouble.
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Oh, shut up, Robin.
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You're not the one who's in trouble.
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You think I can face
anyone in this school again?
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Then why didn't you stop us earlier?
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You weren't sleeping.
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You were enjoying yourself.
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And this is the thanks I get.
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The thanks you get?
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I just don't see how I'll be able
to talk about the things I've done.
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Ah, hell. Joanne?
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, Joanne, now Dr. Lodge has a way
of getting you to let it all hang out,
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so that you can deal
with your incest problem.
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Good morning, everybody.
Nice to see you.
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Uh!
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Joyce McBride should be here in a minute,
and then I'll introduce Miss Cove.
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Miss Cove, I'm glad you decided to come.
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I'm so nervous, Dr. Lodge.
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No, there's nothing to be nervous about.
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Everyone here has been through
the same pain and stress that you have.
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I'm so ashamed.
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No recriminations.
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And I'll help you through the catharsis
necessary for you to shed your past.
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Do you want me
to pick you up at three or
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do you want to just call me
when group is over?
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Just pick me up, Junior, okay?
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Mom?
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I still don't see why you have
to discuss us with the group.
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I mean, I know you said
no one will know, but...
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sure as hell we'll end up in one of
Dr. Lodge's books if you tell about us.
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Look, if Dr. Lodge says
I talk about us, then I talk.
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I've got problems.
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He says I need help.
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He had to start fucking around with...
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- Brian.
- Don't you dare use that word with me.
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Sorry, Mom.
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It's just that everything was fine
until you and Brian started doing this.
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If you hadn't left home, darling,
I wouldn't have turned to your brother.
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Ah.
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You better go in.
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I don't want to get into that with you.
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You're right. This isn't
the time or the place.
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Unless you want to join the group.
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No way.
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See you at three.
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I know I'm late. I was arguing with my son.
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Sorry, everyone.
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Um...
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I thought Barbara Scott
might be coming with you.
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Well, Barbara decided that she'd
rather continue her private sessions.
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Well, I have to tell somebody.
It's been driving me crazy.
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Go on. Let it out, honey.
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It's this incest thing. I hate it.
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It's become like an obsession to me.
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I can't think of anything else.
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And now...
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It's Jimmy.
Now I want him too.
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First I seduced one son, now the other.
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She's... not ready for the group yet.
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Okay, well now that we're
all here, I'd like you all to, huh...
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meet Joanne Cove, our newest
Thursday session member.
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Hi everybody.
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Would you all please...
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introduce yourselves to...
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Joanne and tell her why you're here
so that she doesn't feel all alone.
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Hello, I'm Richard Knight, and
I'm here because I seduced my daughter.
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Hi. I'm Betty Rice, and
I had an affair with my brother.
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My name is Jeff Moore,
and I raped my aunt.
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But she asked for it.
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Come on, Jeff.
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All right. Huh,
I thought she asked for it.
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I'm Joyce McBride,
and I made love to both my sons.
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Now, Joanne,
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would you like to tell
the group why you're here?
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No.
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Well then, who would like
to go first today?
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How about you, Joyce?
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Me?
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All right.
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I have two wonderful sons,
Greg Jr. and Brian,
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and a lovely daughter, Sherry.
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One... One day I...
caught Junior with his sister.
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I can't tell you how awful
I thought my children were.
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I thought my world had come to an end.
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I started drinking heavily.
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I just kept seeing them wrapped...
their arms around each other.
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I kept thinking how handsome my son was.
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Not what he was doing,
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but how much he reminded me
of my husband...
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when we were first married.
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Passionate...
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virile.
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You see, my marriage
was shaky at the time.
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Junior is...
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has a wonderful body.
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I mean, he...
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he's built like a Greek god.
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Well... the more I drank,
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the more I... fantasized
about him being with me.
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And later that night, he came up
to my room and he... wanted to...
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get me to... promise
I wouldn't tell his father.
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Well, one thing led to another,
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and... I tried to fight it,
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but I was... weak.
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I was really weak.
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♪ She's on fire ♪
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♪ She's on fire ♪
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♪ She can't deny her ♪
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♪ Deepest desire ♪
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♪ She's on fire ♪
♪ Loving it so ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh ,oh ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh ,oh ♪
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Bill comes in, what are you doing here?
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I gotta see Jeremy and
I gotta see him right now.
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He's in a session,
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and he's gonna be for
at least another hour.
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- Oh, shit.
- Come on.
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What?
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Let me get you a drink.
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Okay.
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Naomi called me this morning.
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Really?
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- She called you?
- Yeah.
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School's already
called him this morning.
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Girls are on their way home.
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What did Naomi have to say?
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Poor kid, she's scared to death.
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She wanted me to talk to Jeremy.
That's why I wanted to see him right now.
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I don't know what good he can do.
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I've already tried to talk to him.
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I know my brother.
He's a fucking moral tyrant.
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But she's a good kid.
She's my daughter, not Jeremy's.
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Even if he doesn't know it.
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I don't want him fucking her head up.
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I know what you mean,
but you can't talk to him right now.
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And I know. You said so.
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Every night that Junior's father
would leave town on business,
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Junior would come up the stairs
and slip into bed with me.
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I could feel his enormous,
hard cock pressing against me.
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Oh, I tried to resist.
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He would... rub his cock
against my wet pussy.
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How could I resist it, sliding in
and penetrating my body and soul?
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How long did you say this...
session was going to go on?
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Long enough for us.
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Just last night I got down on my knees...
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and I took him in my mouth.
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And just sucking him, I had an orgasm.
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