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Well,
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the thing I love about Formula One is
the driving part.
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Of course, unfortunately, you don't get
to drive actually that much compared to
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what you do throughout the whole
weekend.
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Essentially, whenever he's not in
engineering or in the car, we use his
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marketing.
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This is the business side of Formula 1,
and of course I understand the business
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side, but I think also what is most
important is that you're just yourself,
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know, not try to be anyone else or try
to be portrayed in a different way. For
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me, that doesn't work, because I think
eventually it will eat up on you.
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Max, you are a three -time world
champion. That's absolutely
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Very lovely.
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People sometimes ask me, what do you do
in your free time, and they expect you
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to be something completely different to
anyone else.
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You know what I would like right now?
Kebab.
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I think my life off track has been very
normal.
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Nice and simple.
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I think you'll probably see me just
walking around with Max.
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But that's probably the tip of the
iceberg of what I actually do.
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Is it okay?
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It's so hard.
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It is ironic that I make him do this the
whole time, and then when it gets to
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me, I'm like, oh, I can't do it.
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Every media day with Max, I'll take him
through what we're doing each day, but
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it's pretty much, we're going, we're
doing here, we're doing this, this,
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this, and this. It's very top level.
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I try to not really burn too much energy
on it, I guess.
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No, I mean, I know that's part of
Formula 1 as well. There's some things
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you're like, okay, well, whatever, you
know, these things have to be done.
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Every weekend is the same, which I think
also makes it quite easy because you're
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always talking about the same thing. So
it's very repetitive in a way.
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There's no faffing around, which I think
helps with him because he's then like,
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right, let's go. We'll move on to the
next thing. Let's go to the next thing.
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I think I would struggle a lot more if
suddenly people start asking you a lot
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new, different questions that you're not
prepared for.
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Then it probably gets a bit more tiring.
But most of the time, like when I go to
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interviews or whatever, I can already
answer before I even hear the question.
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I don't think Max is grumpy with
marketing at all. And I think when he
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grumpy about it, it's because he's had a
lot to do. And I think he's very
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reasonable.
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In my mind, I'm already thinking about
other things. You put your brain
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so low that you're just thinking about
other stuff.
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Then we have an informal lunch, sign a
contract.
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And then we will inform the people
internally that the partnership is
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That's it. And then we are ready at half
past three.
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But what do you have to do?
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Yes, we then have an interview with Erik
van Haren.
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Formula 1 magazine Andre, he is joining
us.
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And another platform for Heineken, an
internal one.
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And then on Monday it will be made world
-famous.
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The most important in working together
is that you trust each other.
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I've been very lucky and fortunate that
basically Raymond is like family.
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I mean, I know him since, well, he knows
me since I'm born.
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So that's very hard to find in F1, you
know, that they have a manager and
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someone taking care of business like
that.
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In the go -karting time, it was Jos who
was taking care of the engines and
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preparing the chassis.
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Max was basically, of course, involved,
but everything was prepared. And I think
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even the swap from go -karting to car
racing, everything was organized for
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It's something, of course, that we
talked about a lot also together with my
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He raced enough once that he saw the
world, and you discuss these kind of
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things. We didn't have any sponsorship
in that time.
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We were driving for CRG factory. They
supported us with chassis and tyres and
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fuel. The engines I did myself.
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So we didn't have to do anything like
that. So it was an easy time for him.
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Less bullshit.
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Good afternoon. Hello.
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Hello. Hello.
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Good afternoon. Come on.
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Yes, so we recently started a
partnership with Heineken.
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Heineken is of course a dream partner
and a dream brand and is an iconic
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And if I ever go on a pension, you'll
come out.
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Then you'll come out of there, so to
speak.
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It's very exciting because, you know,
it's more, of course, also focused on
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sim racing related stuff, because the
Don't Drink and Drive campaign as well.
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But, yeah, it's something that I have a
lot of passion for.
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OK, let's go.
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What we normally do is we only sponsor
competitions.
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Like Champions League or like the F1.
But if you look in the situation of Max,
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we were looking for an ambassador for 0
-0. But what's also really important,
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Max is always extremely clear.
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He always knows what he stands for. So
it all came together and that's why we
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said, okay, this is the reason why we
should change our internal policy and go
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for a sponsorship with Max.
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Red Bull was talking with a competitor
of ours.
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But when we heard it was really serious,
we said, this cannot happen. Because if
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a competitor closes a deal with Red
Bull, we cannot have a deal with Mark.
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Yes, there were some competitors who
were interested to do something.
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They were very close in closing a deal.
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We basically had to act in a weekend
extremely fast, and normally these
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take very long. But then you have to go
in the weekend time to put the puzzle
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together with Red Bull Racing's
interest, Heineken's interest, and of
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interest of Max to broker a deal.
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That everyone is happy with the deal
that is on the table.
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Yeah. I will, of course, not tell you
exactly how much you are paying.
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No, no, no. We agreed that even with not
Bevinik or any other partnership, we
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don't disclose any numbers.
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But I can assure you it's a market value
condition. So I think it's a good deal
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for everyone involved.
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Market value condition.
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Everything that we do is market value
conditions.
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Yeah, to work with Raymond.
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No, Raymond, of course, has a
reputation. But I must say, I worked
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well with him. But if Raymond calls, I
will first tell him what's up. I don't
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hope it's going to cost more money
because it's enough now.
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Fantastic. You now have a break. I like
it. Max, we've been interviewed.
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Well, that's a little bit. There we are.
Okay. Hey, super.
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We'll see you on the other side. Yeah.
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What time is it?
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Half past five.
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Oh yes, look at that.
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What is it?
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That's my doll with Call of Duty. Oh,
that looks good.
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Nice,
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isn't it?
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Not that name, you have to blur it out.
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My name is on top of the yellow.
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What the
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fuck are the cats doing?
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I think there are always risks involved
when you associate
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your brand in sponsorships and with
athletes even more because it's one
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You can imagine if Max said something
really strange.
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in the media that sometimes people will
say, hey, is it okay to associate
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yourself with it?
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He's extremely an honest guy. He speaks
his mind and he's always extremely
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clear. And I think that works extremely
well with a message like when you drive,
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never drink. And I'm sure he's going to
give his opinion about Vegas as well.
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As a real...
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I think F1 lover, I prefer to, you know,
drive at Spa, Sunford, Suzuka, the real
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tracks, you know, where an F1 car really
comes alive in the high -speed corners.
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For me, that's where a car, you know,
you really push yourself to the limit.
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can really feel the downforce of a car.
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Max is the boy next door, you know. He's
down to earth. He's not a showman. He
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loves to drive, but he understands that.
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Of course, the business side of Formula
1 is very important. In the end, that's
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financing the whole game.
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If I have this one, it's important.
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No, but it looks a little different
outside.
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Nice, man.
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I think if you run hard against it,
you'll go through it.
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Oh yes,
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you really go through that.
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This one is really a bit too big. You
don't have to do that. You can do that
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nothing fits.
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Number one thing is he needs to focus on
the F1 races and it's an extreme
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business schedule so we will not
interfere in that with commercial
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For the rest, he's quite open -minded.
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I don't think we should do dangerous
stunts, so with Max, I don't think that
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would be a good idea.
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You know, you've had fun things to do
and some things I'm not very comfortable
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with, and I think we are at a stage
where you pick the ones that really suit
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and that work well together, right?
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So basically what's going to happen is
we're going to start off, he's like,
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well, who's driving tonight?
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And then Amy's going to say, well, who's
the best driver? And then we land on
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you. You're like, oh, and then you turn
back.
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Okay. Here we go. Everybody have fun.
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Roll sound.
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And action.
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Guess who's driving.
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When we shoot a commercial, he is Max
Verstappen. Of course, he's
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playing a role, but he is himself.
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He's going out with friends. He's
driving cars.
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The deal is about Max.
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They can use Max in the authentic way.
So Max is not Jones Clooney. He's not an
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actor. They want Max's image, his look
and feel to promote their brand.
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Okay, we'll keep rolling. Let's do it
again.
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Long day, yeah. But at the time, you
know, I don't really think about what
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outcome is.
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Max, we'll do one where you take a sip
for a start.
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So a shrug and then a sip.
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I mean, I'm not an actor, so for me,
doing all these kind of things is
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more mentally draining than I would be
sitting in a race car for the day.
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Because it's just not as natural.
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But it was okay.
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It's a business agreement what you have.
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They want something and we want
something.
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Are we good to go?
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Yeah, go on. No, no, no. No, we'll wait.
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Stay here.
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We need to go together.
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Must say, you know, after 22 or 23 races
in a year, I can imagine that it's
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getting much. But in the meantime, you
have to go to England to go on a sim.
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they do some filming there. It's always
filming.
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And some TikToks and Instagram.
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Yeah. Blossom.
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Hamilton. Why is there a pukey face?
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Oh, ill.
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Ill, ham, ill.
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Some are okay.
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I've been in a pond now for quite a long
time. These kind of things,
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they probably come a bit more natural as
well.
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Not that I've done a lot of filming
every single year.
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More
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things
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maybe come at you, being a world
champion, but... I
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was a little fat.
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Yeah, I was just enjoying my...
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My month off.
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You know,
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you're getting used to it. You feel
quite comfortable in your environment
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you deal with it.
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Once I do these kind of things, I just
put my brain activity on 1%, you know,
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the time flies by a bit more.
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When I watch him doing his marketing
filming, he can sometimes feel
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uncomfortable.
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But we like to create, like, quite a fun
atmosphere with him. And sometimes
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we'll all be sat there, like, properly
laughing. Like, I'll be crying because
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he's so funny and he'll say really
inappropriate stuff.
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Everyone will be laughing and then I'll
be like, right, that was really good,
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but we need to do it again because none
of that footage can be used because it's
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so ridiculous.
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But we do try and have a laugh.
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I'd like to think he comes across really
well in some of the social media stuff
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that he does.
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It kind of shows the real side of him.
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I think
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he's very misunderstood
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in terms of the fact that people don't
understand that he just really loves
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racing. and i get it like he's an
athlete he's a world champion i
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know you're a busy man it's not often
that you get to speak to a driver just
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moments before a race we are a top team
so naturally of course people want to
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have more content of course also you
know red bull naturally is a cat
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so there is more marketing involved they
also gave me the opportunity to start a
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formula one right so it's a give and
take
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I'm on my way to the EA to film.
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Saying a few things doing a few things.
Yeah, like it's quite it's now the
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football related. Yeah, exactly So the
sport you like Yeah Hello
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for the filming of EA No,
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no, that's happened That's the pen. We
okay, but yes, the best he is.
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Thank you. Yeah
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I'm the best?
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You hear that, Jack? I did. But I think
he thought I was Max, so he's calling me
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the best.
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No, he would definitely not. He was
like, maybe that's his disabled brother.
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That's nice. I mean, I don't see Virgil
a lot, of course, but I do support him,
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especially also when he's playing for
the national team.
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So, tell us how you both met. When did
the friendship start?
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We went on Tinder and then we... Well,
in this case, I used Grindr.
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Oh, my God. We cannot use that.
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Use that, use that.
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Yeah, it was cool talking about FIFA,
football in general.
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Yeah, really nice.
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So as much as you got 99?
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Where's my 99?
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That's making no sense.
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I think you got 99.
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Well, I'm already a right back.
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Oh, yeah.
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I think he's more outspoken, of course.
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He's more saying, OK, this I'm not going
to do and this I'd like to do.
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I mean, me behind you is... I'm there.
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He's also getting older and he's getting
more mature, so it's a process.
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He's not 18 anymore, so he's 26 now, so
he has his own view on how he wants to
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be present on social media.
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So I think that... We have to respect
and even we have to frame in the deal
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we are making that we are respecting
Max's view on things, how he wants to be
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positioned and how he wants to be used
by the partners.
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Okay, one, two, three.
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Okay, and one more Instagram.
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Yeah, definitely over the years, you
know what you want and what you don't
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to do, because at the end of the day,
it's all about time management as well.
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So when you have that kind of time that
you have to give, you want to at least
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feel comfortable in doing it.
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This is the business side of Formula 1,
and of course I understand the business
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side.
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I think what is also very important is
that you remember where it all started
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and what's most important and that the
sport itself comes first.
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The driving feeling, you know, at the
end of the day, it's still the same as
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when you're on go -karting. You know,
you have a steering wheel, brake pedal
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a throttle pedal. It's just a bigger car
and it goes a bit faster around the
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corner, but...
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That's where also when I was very little
fell in love with.
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I live in the moment. I don't really
look
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back. I don't really look forward too
far.
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Enjoy what you have right now.
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Verstappen!
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I thought you enjoyed that, mate. Well
done.
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