All language subtitles for BBC - Pagans - 1 - Sexy Beasts

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranî)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
es-419 Spanish (Latin American)
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,779 --> 00:00:07,020 I'm Richard Rudgley. I've made it my business to delve into our past to try 2 00:00:07,020 --> 00:00:09,560 find out what makes us who we are today. 3 00:00:10,460 --> 00:00:15,480 And I've explored the Dark Ages and found that our barbarian ancestors were 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,620 mindless savages. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Now I want to fill in one more critical piece of the puzzle. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,340 We think that our lives are shaped by 2 ,000 years of Roman and Christian 7 00:00:27,340 --> 00:00:28,340 tradition. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,940 But I've never really bought into this. 9 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:37,180 For generations before the Romans came along, we all lived in a very different 10 00:00:37,180 --> 00:00:43,140 world. And I believe this world still plays a major part in who we are today. 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,360 This is the world of the painting. 12 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:22,490 If you say the word pagan, most people can conjure up some pretty dark, scary 13 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:24,390 and even horrifying images. 14 00:01:25,130 --> 00:01:26,990 But we were all pagans once. 15 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,360 So is our pagan inheritance something we should be ashamed of? 16 00:01:55,540 --> 00:01:58,460 I don't think so. I think they've had a bad press. 17 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:07,980 The word pagan just means country folk. It was an insult coined by Romans and 18 00:02:07,980 --> 00:02:13,140 Christians to discredit those they displaced, the outsiders who kept 19 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:14,260 to their old ways. 20 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,240 But the Romans and Christians didn't just stick to insults. They waged a 21 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,280 propaganda war, bad -mouthing everything that was important in the pagan world 22 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,800 by calling it lewd or dangerous. 23 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,060 So if we're to understand what made pagans tick, it's those things, the 24 00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:36,240 dangerous and shocking things that we have to look at. 25 00:02:40,220 --> 00:02:44,860 To reveal the truth behind the headlines, I'm going on a journey across 26 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:48,400 Europe. to strip away 2 ,000 years of propaganda. 27 00:02:50,140 --> 00:02:54,840 A good starting point is with the laws passed by the Christians, and many of 28 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,140 them target our pagan ancestors' close relationship with the animal world. 29 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:08,600 If anyone is dressing in the skin of a wild animal and putting on the heads of 30 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,500 beasts, penance for three years, because this is devilish. 31 00:03:18,730 --> 00:03:21,730 So why were our pagan forebears dressing up as animals? 32 00:03:22,050 --> 00:03:23,370 And what was wrong with it? 33 00:03:32,950 --> 00:03:39,610 My journey begins at the heart of English paganism, Sutton Hoo, a burial 34 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:42,430 for several generations of Anglo -Saxon leaders. 35 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:46,970 In the 7th century, most of Northern Europe was still pagan. 36 00:03:50,060 --> 00:03:57,060 And in 625 AD, King Redwald, pagan overlord of East Anglia, was buried 37 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,900 He was buried with all the military objects important to any warrior king. 38 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,480 His sword and shield. 39 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:07,060 His magnificent helmet. 40 00:04:08,740 --> 00:04:11,100 But there's something striking in his grave. 41 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:15,320 Everywhere there are pictures of animals. 42 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,940 One in particular that still stirs. 43 00:04:19,269 --> 00:04:20,910 A very basic fear in us. 44 00:04:22,070 --> 00:04:23,070 The wolf. 45 00:04:24,350 --> 00:04:29,630 You can see on the pursuit, wolf flanking this human figure. And also the 46 00:04:29,630 --> 00:04:33,390 of a dynasty popularly associated with Sutton, who the Wolfingers, or the 47 00:04:33,390 --> 00:04:39,650 Wolfingers, if you like, the kin of the wolf, all combine with local folklore 48 00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:44,870 and stories about wolves helping people, protecting people, to give the 49 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:47,070 impression that the wolf was a very important emblem. 50 00:04:47,690 --> 00:04:50,910 In the modern world, the wolf is still an important emblem. 51 00:04:51,690 --> 00:04:56,330 But from Little Red Riding Hood to American Werewolf in London, we see it 52 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:58,990 big bad wolf, the embodiment of evil. 53 00:05:00,370 --> 00:05:04,330 The evidence at Sutton Hoo suggests things were different for King Redwald. 54 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:09,790 In pagan times, it was much more ambiguous. The wolf was dangerous, but 55 00:05:09,790 --> 00:05:13,490 was also important, often something to aspire to in certain situations. 56 00:05:14,270 --> 00:05:16,610 Whereas today, few people would aspire to be a wolf. 57 00:05:17,290 --> 00:05:19,870 And if you did, you'd be looked at very strangely. 58 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:27,450 They were the sons of kings. 59 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:35,750 Sigmundur and Sinfjotli put the skins on and could not get them off. 60 00:05:36,050 --> 00:05:38,230 They were transformed into wolves. 61 00:05:40,930 --> 00:05:43,070 They howled like wolves. 62 00:05:43,790 --> 00:05:46,750 and both understood the meaning of their howling. 63 00:06:03,550 --> 00:06:07,210 Evidence from across Europe shows warriors dressing up as wolves. 64 00:06:15,790 --> 00:06:20,090 In the pagan world, this was a way of taking on the power of the wolf, to make 65 00:06:20,090 --> 00:06:22,510 yourself a better and more feared warrior. 66 00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:34,790 These are replicas of masks. They're bestial in their appearance. 67 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:39,600 And if you like, it's an aid, a visual aid, not so that they would look like 68 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,340 wolf. You're not basically dressing up as a complete wolf to replicate the 69 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,740 but you are helping your mind achieve that best you'll stay. Would it be right 70 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:54,020 to say that there's a connection here between these guys imitating wolves and 71 00:06:54,020 --> 00:06:57,080 acting like wolves and our ideas about werewolves? 72 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:04,010 Possibly. Certainly the origins of that idea come from these warrior societies 73 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:09,870 mimicking animals, and that's clearly related to part of a wider idea of 74 00:07:09,870 --> 00:07:13,130 and animals not being as separate as they eventually become once Christianity 75 00:07:13,130 --> 00:07:17,150 sets in. And this is what Christianity stressed, is that humans should be 76 00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:19,750 distancing themselves from what we can term as the beast. 77 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:30,130 The Christians used the pagans' affinity with the animal world against them by 78 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:32,150 calling them bestial or animalistic. 79 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:35,850 This blackened the names of both pagans and animals. 80 00:07:37,030 --> 00:07:40,390 Today, we would never identify with a wolf in a positive way. 81 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:45,390 We talk about someone wolfing their food or being a lone wolf. 82 00:07:48,310 --> 00:07:51,410 But in the pagan world, there wasn't this superior attitude. 83 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Their relationship with wild animals was a positive thing. 84 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,580 Dressing up to be like a wolf gave them power. 85 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:06,200 I think the reason for this is because in pagan times, when they lived much 86 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,740 closely with a wolf, they understood this wild power much better, and it was 87 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:12,000 something that they tapped into. 88 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:16,560 But to us, it's still just a big, bad wolf in the fairy tale to scare the 89 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,880 children with. Now, why? I mean, they're never going to meet a wolf except in 90 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,880 the zoo. 91 00:08:22,410 --> 00:08:26,510 It wasn't my idea to do this, but somehow I got talked into it. 92 00:08:29,610 --> 00:08:33,530 The production team decided that the way to try and understand our pagan 93 00:08:33,530 --> 00:08:37,409 ancestors and their view of the world was for me to get quite a lot more 94 00:08:37,409 --> 00:08:38,830 intimate with wolves myself. 95 00:08:39,549 --> 00:08:43,070 Would you prefer it if I went sort of closer rather than yourself and sort of 96 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:44,550 come up? Whatever you think. 97 00:08:44,990 --> 00:08:49,650 So with some trepidation, I was about to find out what it felt like to be a 98 00:08:49,650 --> 00:08:52,340 pagan. by getting up close and personal. 99 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,860 So if you sort of get into position, what you're doing is you're kind of 100 00:08:57,860 --> 00:08:59,260 bouncing from side to side. 101 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Sean Ellis has spent the last 15 years living with wolves and learning how to 102 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,000 communicate with them. 103 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,860 For the facial expression, what we look at is we kind of pull the lips up over 104 00:09:09,860 --> 00:09:15,020 the front teeth and we kind of stick the tongue through. That's what we're 105 00:09:15,020 --> 00:09:17,820 looking for. Lift the lips up over the front teeth, try and keep the teeth... 106 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:19,340 How close is he going to come? 107 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,840 You'll probably find it'll come quite close to you. Once we disappear out of 108 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,360 way and he's got one -on -one, he'll come quite close and try and take it 109 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,360 you. He's already there now, licking the lips. He's going to be quite up for 110 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,360 this, don't worry. 111 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,760 It's kind of squeezing them together, if you can. 112 00:09:33,180 --> 00:09:36,060 That's it, you're getting there. That's fine, yeah. As he's looking at me now, 113 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:41,500 you turn and run. You'll probably get to around about here, if you're lucky. 114 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,000 OK, you should have it by then. 115 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:45,220 Play boat. 116 00:09:46,010 --> 00:09:49,610 Yeah, face them side to side, and then as soon as he comes in, just turn, run, 117 00:09:49,770 --> 00:09:52,450 and feed the rabbit in. You can't really go wrong, mate, anyway, so, okay? 118 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:08,070 Tonight, that's going to be you and I. 119 00:10:08,770 --> 00:10:10,810 Yours is going to be slightly higher than mine. 120 00:10:11,310 --> 00:10:14,410 And as I stop, you come in. As you stop, I'll come in. 121 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,560 Spending the weekend with the pack made me start to think that the notion of the 122 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:38,860 Big Bad Wolf is as unfounded as the notion of the Big Bad Pagan. 123 00:10:39,580 --> 00:10:43,960 When Sean lives with these wolves, they very quickly start to assign him a rank. 124 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:48,960 In the pack, every wolf has a place, and they work together as a team. 125 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,460 You would be tested through strength, maybe even through speed, but it's 126 00:10:54,460 --> 00:10:55,660 just to place you within their group. 127 00:10:57,130 --> 00:10:59,150 Well, I think we know where that is. 128 00:10:59,710 --> 00:11:00,730 Right down there. 129 00:11:01,170 --> 00:11:04,230 It's kind of pretty near the bottom, if not right down there. It's not a bad 130 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:07,430 place to be, actually. They tend to look after you very, very well indeed. 131 00:11:07,770 --> 00:11:10,810 The protection, their family orientation is second to none. 132 00:11:12,070 --> 00:11:16,090 So the wolf just isn't the evil stereotype of Christian fairy tales. 133 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:23,370 Of course, Little Red Riding Hood should have been wary of the wolf, but I now 134 00:11:23,370 --> 00:11:28,110 understand why pagan warriors would also, have admired it. 135 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:34,310 However, some Christians reported that our pagan ancestors' passion for animals 136 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:39,890 went beyond admiration into areas almost too shocking to contemplate. 137 00:11:40,590 --> 00:11:46,030 In the 12th century, a Christian propagandist called Gerald of Wales was 138 00:11:46,030 --> 00:11:47,090 travelling in Ireland. 139 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:55,230 There, he claimed to witness the pagan ceremony that beggars believe. 140 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,380 It's one of the most shocking accounts I've read in all my time as an 141 00:12:00,380 --> 00:12:01,380 anthropologist. 142 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:08,680 What Gerald described was a man killing a horse, bathing in its blood, 143 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:11,000 and then serving it up as a Jew. 144 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:16,920 But before all of this, in full view of a crowd of people, he had sex with the 145 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,920 animal. 146 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Wild sex. 147 00:12:24,380 --> 00:12:25,380 Bestiality. 148 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:27,010 Exhibitionism. 149 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:36,090 If this story's true, maybe we should feel ashamed of our pagan past. 150 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:39,670 But did anything like this really happen? 151 00:12:41,650 --> 00:12:43,750 The record in Ireland is silent. 152 00:12:46,410 --> 00:12:50,750 But here in Norfolk, there's the beginning of a trail to help me unravel 153 00:12:50,750 --> 00:12:52,870 truth behind this Christian scare story. 154 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:15,840 This archaeological warehouse near Norwich contains over 2000 boxes of 155 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,840 remains. 156 00:13:19,950 --> 00:13:25,350 They come from Spong Hill, the largest Anglo -Saxon cemetery ever excavated in 157 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:26,350 Britain. 158 00:13:27,630 --> 00:13:32,710 These Anglo -Saxons were pagans and rather than burying their dead, they 159 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:34,950 them and put their ashes into urns. 160 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:39,630 The decoration on the outside of some of the urns is the first clue to 161 00:13:39,630 --> 00:13:44,370 understanding Gerald's story because it shows that horses were of special 162 00:13:44,370 --> 00:13:45,890 importance to these people. 163 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:48,570 This is one of the urns that was used for burial. 164 00:13:50,250 --> 00:13:53,450 And you can see all around here, you can see the horses. 165 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,270 Almost as if they're galloping around. 166 00:13:56,650 --> 00:14:01,750 Fantastic. But what the decoration on the outside didn't prepare Jackie for 167 00:14:01,750 --> 00:14:05,510 what she discovered when she examined the contents of the urn. But what we've 168 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:06,510 got here... 169 00:14:06,810 --> 00:14:11,370 Quite easily identifiable bits of human bone. For instance, we have fragments of 170 00:14:11,370 --> 00:14:17,290 mandible, which is very easily identifiable here. This bone here is far 171 00:14:17,290 --> 00:14:22,610 and far more robust. It's far thicker, as you can see, than any of this bone 172 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:25,350 here. It's quite a different element. 173 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:29,530 And those are fragments of horse bone, of horse long bone. 174 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:33,530 So they were definitely mixed together in this case? They were mixed together, 175 00:14:33,630 --> 00:14:37,900 but... You know, the horse is not just in there by accident. This is a 176 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:42,380 deliberate deposit, a deliberate burial meant to be of that animal. 177 00:14:43,180 --> 00:14:48,740 Over half the cremation urns from Spong Hill contain animal remains, and the 178 00:14:48,740 --> 00:14:51,020 horse is by far the most common of these animals. 179 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Why? 180 00:14:53,420 --> 00:14:57,540 In life, horses were useful and a sign of wealth and power. 181 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:02,060 But the finds here suggest they were important in death too. 182 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:07,700 and combined with something central to the pagan world, fire. 183 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:16,000 Today, we shy away from facing death, but the Anglo -Saxon cremation pyre 184 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,080 that the pagans wanted to see the transformation of the body into ashes. 185 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,440 You'd see how people would be fascinated by this. Because they didn't really, 186 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:25,940 they didn't understand the chemistry of it. 187 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,260 Well, I don't either. 188 00:15:27,820 --> 00:15:29,320 I'm not sure I do, but... 189 00:15:30,010 --> 00:15:35,450 You know, looking at that, it is visually so beautiful. Oh, yeah, you've 190 00:15:35,450 --> 00:15:37,350 got to look at it, haven't you? And it looks like it's alive. 191 00:15:38,410 --> 00:15:40,710 It's hot. It is very, very hot, isn't it? 192 00:15:41,190 --> 00:15:42,190 Yeah. 193 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:48,730 Pagans believed that the fiery transformation to ashes was a fast track 194 00:15:48,730 --> 00:15:49,730 next world. 195 00:15:50,410 --> 00:15:54,530 We can tell how important this was to them because when Christians came along 196 00:15:54,530 --> 00:16:00,200 with a different view of the afterlife, they labelled cremation as barbaric, and 197 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,280 infernal. It was banned in Britain soon after this time and only made legal 198 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,020 again in the late 19th century. 199 00:16:11,940 --> 00:16:15,760 Had they seen what was happening at Spong Hill the Christians would have 200 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:21,660 even more shocked because here this magical transformation had an extra 201 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,880 The horse bones were not just mingled with humans in the urns. 202 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,600 They were actually burnt at the same time on the pyre. 203 00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:36,120 In this pagan spectacle, human and animal were symbolically fused. 204 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,980 I think this might help explain Gerald's story of a man having sex with a horse. 205 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:50,140 The fusion of man and animal, not in death, but in life. 206 00:17:09,349 --> 00:17:13,670 To stand any chance of getting to the truth behind Gerald's account, we need 207 00:17:13,670 --> 00:17:17,430 see things as pagans saw them. We need to get inside their minds. 208 00:17:33,030 --> 00:17:38,290 The pagan legacy here in Sweden goes back much earlier than Spong Hill or 209 00:17:38,290 --> 00:17:42,830 Gerald's tabloid tale, but there's a fascinating connection between the 210 00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:48,350 The people who lived here have left a remarkable legacy, hundreds of stories 211 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:50,790 carved in pictures on huge flat rocks. 212 00:17:51,670 --> 00:17:55,950 These pictures are tantalising clues to how our pagan ancestors thought. 213 00:17:57,010 --> 00:17:58,770 Tell me what you see. 214 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:02,330 Well, I see a man. Yeah. 215 00:18:02,530 --> 00:18:04,170 I think, with a sword. 216 00:18:05,379 --> 00:18:06,379 Yeah, perhaps. 217 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:13,160 Well, I guess, and then, dare I say, he's having sex with a horse. 218 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Yes, you dare. 219 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,560 You dare say. 220 00:18:16,060 --> 00:18:18,420 Perhaps this is his arm, his hand. 221 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,440 He's got a pretty long arm. Yeah, with a whip or something, I don't know. 222 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,960 He's whipping it as well. He's really a bit strange guy, isn't he? Yes. 223 00:18:26,340 --> 00:18:30,640 The picture fits Gerald's story pretty well, but it's the only one that's been 224 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,440 found in the whole of pagan Europe so far. 225 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Gerald the priest told his story in horror to shock his readers. 226 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:42,780 But at Tarnum, we see things from the pagan point of view. If only we can 227 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:43,880 decipher what they mean. 228 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:50,440 So if you could help me, just try to clear the leaves away. 229 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,900 I promise you, you will see more of the rubbing. Put the paper out. Today, we 230 00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:59,440 only see a small proportion of the rock carvings in what was probably their 231 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,720 original splendour, coloured in red. 232 00:19:02,890 --> 00:19:04,110 We'll have to take this. 233 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:07,390 Oscar Fredl has gone to great lengths to catalogue all the pictures. 234 00:19:09,010 --> 00:19:10,050 Let's have some magic. 235 00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:13,170 Including ones that are invisible to the naked eye. 236 00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:15,370 Oh, see, look at that magic. 237 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:18,050 Things are coming out here now. 238 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:26,330 This looks like a human figure and maybe here it's a... Has he got 239 00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:27,089 an erection? 240 00:19:27,090 --> 00:19:31,530 Yeah, it's a big one, but we don't know if it's like... if they actually had 241 00:19:31,530 --> 00:19:32,530 these. 242 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:37,150 Could be some kind of outfit or gear to put on. 243 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:39,290 What do you mean? What kind of gear? 244 00:19:40,050 --> 00:19:44,930 Like a loose... Like something to put on, like in a costume. 245 00:19:45,850 --> 00:19:49,830 So you think this might not be his real one? It might be a... Yeah, it might be 246 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:53,750 a... No, yeah. I'm sure if you see some of them, they can't be the real one. 247 00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:56,650 Yeah, they're exaggerating. Yeah, they're exaggerating. 248 00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:57,930 A bit of artistic license. 249 00:19:59,270 --> 00:20:03,750 Although there is only one picture of a man having sex with a horse, in the 250 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:08,930 Tanim area alone there are roughly 150 pictures of men with erect penises or 251 00:20:08,930 --> 00:20:10,030 strap -on phalluses. 252 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:14,970 So what do these pictures tell us about what people were actually doing? 253 00:20:15,950 --> 00:20:20,530 Are they dirty Bronze Age cartoons, or could they be records of real events? 254 00:20:23,150 --> 00:20:25,530 Oh, this is obviously the main one, isn't it? Yeah, it is. 255 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,340 Excavations in front of the rocks have found evidence of fires and feasting. 256 00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:34,220 They show Tannum would have been the site for big community festivals, 257 00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:35,840 theatrical events. 258 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:41,040 So what have we got here, the usual erect penises? What's going on there? 259 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 but you find people dancing or moving. 260 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,520 The pictures are scenes from these performances, like photos of the cast. 261 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,720 And the man with the big phallus seems to have been quite a popular character. 262 00:20:55,850 --> 00:21:00,070 Most people today when they saw a picture of an erect penis would 263 00:21:00,070 --> 00:21:03,910 think about sex But do you think that's the way that they saw it? 264 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:09,250 Actually, I don't think that's the way they saw it. I think it's more of an 265 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:14,730 attribute Like a symbol for something like potency like a show -off 266 00:21:15,530 --> 00:21:16,650 This big man. 267 00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:20,670 I wondered if he'd drawn it after the other one, say, you know, my one's 268 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:23,070 than your one, including his axe as well. 269 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:27,270 Might be, but... These pictures are not pornography. 270 00:21:28,050 --> 00:21:32,490 Big penises with symbols of power and being man enough to have sex with a 271 00:21:32,490 --> 00:21:39,110 horse... ..would be the supreme expression of male power. 272 00:21:46,860 --> 00:21:50,800 I was pretty sure that what Gerald saw was more power trips than sexual 273 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,260 deviancy, but I still needed proof. 274 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,140 Here in the gold room in Stockholm are the status symbols of the pagan elite 275 00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:03,640 from the Bronze Age to the time of the Vikings. 276 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:09,440 Their jewellery, expensive, intricate, and often showing humans and animals 277 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,440 together. 278 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080 I'd been promised these enigmatic finds. 279 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,800 would give me the extra evidence I needed to prove that what Gerald saw was 280 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,680 ritual about power rather than proof of pagan promiscuity. 281 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,920 They turned out to be some of the smallest clues I'd ever seen. 282 00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:35,100 Tiny gold images the size of a fingernail. And they weren't all they 283 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:40,200 Looks like a man and a woman kissing to me, maybe a husband and wife. This one 284 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,880 is not quite as clear, but is that the same? 285 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,380 Ingmarie Back -Danielson has studied over 700 of these found across Sweden 286 00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:48,380 Denmark. 287 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,060 But how are they going to help me? 288 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,200 But if you look really closely, you can actually see that it's not that very 289 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320 clear. Is it really a man and a woman? 290 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,420 I think they're wearing masks. 291 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,980 They're wearing masks. 292 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:04,060 Yes, facial masks. 293 00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:06,170 Not very human -like at all. 294 00:23:06,750 --> 00:23:08,610 Almost a bit animal -like. 295 00:23:09,570 --> 00:23:15,090 So, what do we make of that? I mean, that's a bit unusual, wearing masks like 296 00:23:15,090 --> 00:23:20,050 that. I mean, it seems a bit strange to me. Well, it is strange to us. But you 297 00:23:20,050 --> 00:23:24,850 had several animal spirits that could help you in different matters. And you 298 00:23:24,850 --> 00:23:30,670 donned jewellery or even your clothes with certain aspects of that animal in 299 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:32,690 order to get that animal's power. 300 00:23:41,230 --> 00:23:45,670 What the pictures show is something called a sacred marriage, a ceremony in 301 00:23:45,670 --> 00:23:49,610 which a person mated with a piece of land to stake their claim to it. 302 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:54,870 In these ceremonies, the land would be represented by a person in an animal 303 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:55,870 mask. 304 00:24:00,710 --> 00:24:05,450 And where these tiny gold stamps were found hints at not only what these 305 00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:08,910 ceremonies meant, but also who was taking part in them. 306 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,040 for they have all been discovered in the foundations of royal palaces. 307 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:18,660 I think you have to remember that these items are made of gold and gold is not 308 00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:24,220 something that every man or woman had access to. So they were used in order to 309 00:24:24,220 --> 00:24:27,580 explain the origin of the ruling couple. 310 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:34,920 All the evidence I had seen pointed to a long pagan tradition of theatrical 311 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,920 spectacles. 312 00:24:36,590 --> 00:24:39,970 in which humans symbolically mingled and even mated with animals. 313 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:46,950 So although I think Gerald could have seen a horse being killed, I think the 314 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:50,210 show that went on before was just that, a show. 315 00:24:55,650 --> 00:25:00,250 Just as the warrior drew strength and knowledge from the wolf pack, so leaders 316 00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:05,030 asserted their power by mastering an animal that represented potency and 317 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,960 The horse. 318 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:13,120 Now, this might sound a million miles from today, but even in the modern 319 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,760 horsepower is something we use as a status symbol. 320 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,620 A man demonstrating his wealth or sexual prowess by the type of car he drives is 321 00:25:24,620 --> 00:25:27,120 directly echoing this pagan power ritual. 322 00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:34,540 But we can't all have Ferraris, and what I'm interested in is the Ford Fiestas 323 00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:35,540 of the pagan world. 324 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,740 The normal people, the ones like us. 325 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:44,540 And more specifically, the women, who were often described by Christian 326 00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:47,600 propagandists as little better than animals themselves. 327 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920 Pagans, the original sexy beasts. 328 00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:58,780 And pagan women, the wildest sexy beasts of all. 329 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:03,400 Depending on who you read, they spent a lot of time with their kit off. 330 00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:07,750 flashed their genitals at cattle, and weren't averse to pleasuring themselves 331 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:09,670 with large stone dildos. 332 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:15,430 But how do we separate fact from 2 ,000 years of Christian fiction? 333 00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:35,230 Here in Sweden there is a long tradition of open sexuality, and it goes back at 334 00:26:35,230 --> 00:26:36,430 least to Viking times. 335 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:41,470 We know a lot about people's everyday lives in those days, because we can read 336 00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:44,130 them in intimate detail in the Viking Saga. 337 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:50,790 So as a little bit of extra research for the programme, after a hard day's 338 00:26:50,790 --> 00:26:53,150 filming, I decided to have an early night. 339 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,060 What I like about the Norse stories and poems is they seem to cover the whole 340 00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:08,900 range of life. I mean, there's stuff here, for example, about love and sex, 341 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,020 romance and marriage, which wouldn't be out of place in a woman's magazine, 342 00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:15,560 although, of course, this is also great poetry. 343 00:27:15,820 --> 00:27:18,600 But there are some things in here that are pretty surprising. 344 00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:33,730 There's a story here about a horse's penis, and everyone has to sing a little 345 00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:35,590 verse about what they're going to do with it. 346 00:27:42,190 --> 00:27:45,550 So what really happened when a few Viking women got together? 347 00:27:49,210 --> 00:27:52,790 Here's one part of it. Oh, no, it's... Ah, here. 348 00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:54,950 It's, um... 349 00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:07,530 I've come here to Storholmen to see what the Vikings got up to. 350 00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:09,190 If there's any in, that is. 351 00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:17,230 Hello! Well, in Sweden... Britta and Mats are a one -off. They don't just 352 00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:18,930 the sagas, they try to live like them. 353 00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:26,650 They have left the 21st century, and for the last decade have been building 354 00:28:26,650 --> 00:28:29,790 their own 10th century world, based on what they have read. 355 00:28:31,930 --> 00:28:36,140 Havamal. or Sayings of the High One, is a guide for how to live the good life, 356 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:37,300 Viking style. 357 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,840 By following the guidelines set out in this particular book, Britta and Matt 358 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,600 believe they have been able to tap into the minds of our pagan ancestors. 359 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:53,340 It's more like guidings, how to live your life in the best way, how to treat 360 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:57,660 other people, how to treat yourself, actually, and how to make the best out 361 00:28:57,660 --> 00:29:00,120 things. I do the countdown now. OK, OK. 362 00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:04,780 Three, two, one. By living by the book, Britta and Mats have learned not to be 363 00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:08,240 turned off by seeing life and death in all its gory detail. 364 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,860 They make work fun by peppering it with games and have a few practical ways of 365 00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:15,340 testing the worth of a partner. 366 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,800 And I win. 367 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,560 Yeah. 368 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:24,740 It's not much to have. No muscles at all. It seems pretty obvious stuff, but 369 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:26,480 adds up to an interesting bigger picture. 370 00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:31,680 of a pagan world where boundaries were not as defined as they are today, where 371 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,720 the lines between humans and animals, or work and play, were blurred. 372 00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:41,080 Britta's experience has led her to a pragmatic conclusion about some of the 373 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,280 lewd stories in the Thargos, particularly my famous horse penis 374 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:46,800 Often when... 375 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,720 historians or archaeologists should interpret such things. They say, it's 376 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,600 mysterious, it's a wreath, it's about fertilization. And yeah, probably it is. 377 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,880 But if you were holding a penis in your hand, it would be a lot of laughing. 378 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,380 And I think it was like... 379 00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:12,380 Like party feeling, not like, I'm holding a penis. 380 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,460 You don't think it was a serious symbolic ritual? 381 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:24,280 Well, maybe both. When we think back in time, we tend to separate it as we do. 382 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:25,700 Religion here. 383 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:27,460 Of course, penis there. 384 00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:28,239 Yeah, yeah. 385 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,260 And, you know, handicraft here. 386 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,620 Yeah, but it was all one part of one whole. 387 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:35,900 Yeah, of course it was. 388 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,020 Our pagan ancestors, unlike the Christians who displaced them, didn't 389 00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:51,940 in terms of opposite, good and evil, civilized and wild, sacred and profane. 390 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,340 And this is reflected not only in the sagas, but in some of the objects they 391 00:30:57,340 --> 00:30:58,340 left behind. 392 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,680 These three are just a little selection of the pagan statuettes that may have 393 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,740 something to do with sex. 394 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:26,380 And if we were to interpret them in our own way, in a modern way, we'd simply 395 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:32,700 say, okay, this is a topless dancer with a miniskirt, here's a woman flashing 396 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,040 her boobs, and here's a man sitting down with an erection. 397 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,420 But is it really that simple? 398 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Well, it probably isn't, because I don't think the pagans would have seen these 399 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,500 in quite the same light we do today. 400 00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:49,950 Because for us, Sex is very much something apart from religion and 401 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:55,070 life. It's sort of got its own little bit at the side. But sex was part of 402 00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:59,490 life, obviously, but it was also part of their spiritual life. They didn't cut 403 00:31:59,490 --> 00:32:00,490 the two apart. 404 00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:12,330 The fact that pagan women talked about sex and were portrayed as being sexy 405 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,280 doesn't automatically mean that they were the harlots of Christian 406 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,820 In their world, sexiness was a force for good. 407 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:23,140 Why? 408 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,380 The answer can be found in the grave of a young woman across the water in 409 00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:30,380 Denmark. 410 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:36,600 In 1370 BC, a teenage girl was buried in a tree -trunk coffin. 411 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,560 A quirk of chemistry has meant that her clothing has been completely preserved. 412 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,320 It is the best -kept outfit ever found by archaeologists, and it provides us 413 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,440 with a unique opportunity to learn something about the morals of pagan 414 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:57,260 Around her waist is a belt with a large bronze disc. 415 00:32:57,580 --> 00:33:01,700 The skirt is made of a row of strings that would open up as she moved. 416 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,960 She has nothing on underneath. 417 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,220 The egg -fed girl makes the Bronze Age very familiar to us. 418 00:33:13,540 --> 00:33:16,580 Her outfit would not be out of place on a young girl today. 419 00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:21,560 You were the first one to actually put it on and try doing different things in 420 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,780 it. Annie Brugger has worn an exact replica and seen what you can and can't 421 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:27,780 in it. 422 00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:32,700 It is both difficult and revealing to bend down, so any kind of work in the 423 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:33,700 fields would be out. 424 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,420 But there's one thing you can do in it. 425 00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:42,130 And that's done. 426 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:57,110 So would you let your daughter go out in this costume on a Saturday night? 427 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:58,490 No, indeed not. 428 00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:00,810 This is a very special costume. 429 00:34:01,010 --> 00:34:06,790 It's not for every young girl. So it wouldn't be what the typical teenage... 430 00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:07,810 indeed not. 431 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:14,159 A special costume for dancing and even more special for fertility dancing. 432 00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:19,239 This belt was like the sun and the point of the dancing was to make the rays of 433 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,500 the sun bounce off it. 434 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,460 When she's spinning around, she's receiving the sun and she's spreading it 435 00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:33,739 And she even put seed out of here and stamp it down. 436 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,900 The egg -fed girl's outfit is not any sexy, but seems to draw the gaze 437 00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:40,560 deliberately towards her womb. 438 00:34:42,139 --> 00:34:46,520 So was this not just about her sexuality, but also her fertility. 439 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:54,440 The tree trunk coffin doesn't just contain a sexy girl. There are other 440 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,438 in here as well. 441 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,380 A cattle hide and pollen, both symbols of fertility. 442 00:35:00,330 --> 00:35:05,170 and most curiously, a small bag containing the burnt remains of a child. 443 00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:11,310 One of the reasons why I think we should think of her as a sexual being, as it 444 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:15,150 were... At first, it looked like the egg -fed girl could have been the mother, 445 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:22,170 but DNA testing has put her age at 15 and the young child at six, so this 446 00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:23,210 highly improbable. 447 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,240 And because the child is cremated, whilst the egg -fed girl and her outfit 448 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,520 intact, it seems that the child's presence too is symbolic. 449 00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:38,900 Everything points to the egg -fed girl being special for the fertility of the 450 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:39,900 whole community. 451 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:44,280 Not because she was promiscuous, but because she was a virgin. 452 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,800 The point may be that she was sexually very provocative. 453 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,180 highly sexually charged, but at the same time virgin, so that she couldn't be 454 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:55,720 touched. You know, to be virgin is to be pure, but at the same time it's to have 455 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,600 this dangerous power all locked up inside you, waiting to explode out, as 456 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,600 were. 457 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,580 Whilst Christians view virginity as good because sex is bad, pagans saw 458 00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:09,620 virginity as a sexual time bomb. 459 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:15,120 And in their world, sex, and flaunting it, was a good thing. 460 00:36:16,330 --> 00:36:20,850 We have to think of the pagan past where fertility, reproductive capacity is 461 00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:24,710 something which is bound up with the survival of the community, whether it's 462 00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:26,450 people, whether it's crops, whether it's animals. 463 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:33,310 And so what to us may seem permissive is again to do with the success of the 464 00:36:33,310 --> 00:36:36,510 community and its sexuality is going to be the key to that success. 465 00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:48,060 What the egg -fed girl gives us is a glimpse into a society that treasured 466 00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:53,540 young women and valued the power of female sexuality just as much as it 467 00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:54,840 the power of its men. 468 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,460 So yes, it's easy to portray pagan women as a bunch of orgiastic harlots, but 469 00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:03,780 this would be to miss the point. 470 00:37:05,220 --> 00:37:09,400 Just as Gerald of Wales missed the point when he witnessed the horse ritual. 471 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,160 In sharp contrast to the picture painted by their Christian rivals, our pagan 472 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,620 ancestors belonged to a highly moral and spiritual society. 473 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,380 But my rehabilitation of our pagan ancestors was about to be seriously 474 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:33,980 challenged by a recent discovery in Estonia, the death house. 475 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,280 I'm on a journey across northern Europe, uncovering the truth about our pagan 476 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,280 past. 477 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,920 It wasn't all sex, animals and wild abandon. 478 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,780 It seems that wherever the Christians displaced the pagans, they left a trail 479 00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:52,880 bigotry and propaganda. 480 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,940 But what about when it came to death? 481 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,760 They cut off their stomachs. 482 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:14,540 and tore out the hearts from their living bodies. 483 00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:20,640 Then they divided the hearts, cooked them on the fire, and ate them. 484 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,120 I had every horror cliché in my head as I was driven through the wilds of 485 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,120 Estonia. 486 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,180 I was being taken to a place I'd heard referred to as the death house. 487 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,720 I felt like I was entering a 70s flasher movie. 488 00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:13,010 Nearly 2 ,000 years ago, this area was prime farming land. 489 00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:16,890 Antonia was the site of a prosperous settlement. 490 00:39:19,330 --> 00:39:23,590 But this spot here had something more surprising in store for archaeologists. 491 00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:29,150 So how old is this? 492 00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:36,870 It's mostly from the 2nd up to the 4th century AD, this particular 493 00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:40,050 The second to the fourth century. 494 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:49,710 When excavation started, Marika Magi thought she had found the foundations of 495 00:39:49,710 --> 00:39:51,270 house. I can show you if you want. 496 00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:56,930 OK. But when she removed the limestone floor, she was forced to think again. I 497 00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:58,050 think it was here. 498 00:39:59,950 --> 00:40:02,530 Staring straight at her was the gull of a woman. 499 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,200 When she dug some more, she found that the skull was framed in a small stone 500 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,200 box. 501 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,880 As she excavated further to try to find the rest of the skeleton, she realised 502 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,860 she was standing on the chopped up remains of more than one person. 503 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:31,300 After collecting the bones together, she calculated there could be as many as 13 504 00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:32,340 people in here. 505 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:35,190 So what was going on? 506 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:40,450 The bones we found here, they were not bones of the whole skeleton. 507 00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:45,390 And not only that, but many of them had been broken intentionally, probably 508 00:40:45,390 --> 00:40:46,510 during the ritual. 509 00:40:46,930 --> 00:40:49,410 And would you like me to show you some of the bones? 510 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:55,150 Sure, yeah. Why would they have broken them? They tried to kill the bones even. 511 00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:56,510 To kill the bones? 512 00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:57,990 Make sure they were dead. 513 00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:02,830 To make it absolutely sure the body is completely destroyed. 514 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:10,360 Next to this house is a series of mysterious pits, at the bottom of which 515 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,760 fragments of human bone. 516 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,380 It seems the bodies were either being stored or even cut into pieces here. 517 00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:25,600 The dead bodies can just be buried first on the ground somewhere else and after 518 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,940 some period, perhaps a year or something, dug up and cooked, for 519 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,580 Cooked? Yes. 520 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,180 Any particular reason? 521 00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:37,240 For defleshing the bones. 522 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:43,140 Because otherwise it's not very easy, actually, to cut the flesh off from the 523 00:41:43,140 --> 00:41:47,840 bones. But it must be hard to cook one of your relatives or something. 524 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:53,280 It depends how you get on with your relatives, but for most situations. It 525 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,140 something which was necessary for entering the other world and very 526 00:41:58,140 --> 00:42:02,240 and probably not as disgusting as it would be for present people. 527 00:42:03,310 --> 00:42:08,050 In the 21st century, we're really very squeamish about death and dead bodies. 528 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:10,890 But for these people, death was not the end. 529 00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:19,150 And their belief about what happened afterwards fundamentally affected their 530 00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:22,050 attitude to the human body, alive or dead. 531 00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:32,880 Digging up particular bones, defleshing them and reburying them, was a way of 532 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,300 helping their loved ones get to the next world. 533 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,180 Our pagan ancestors also believed it enabled them to revisit this world. 534 00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:49,880 They were comfortable with the idea of ghosts and spirits in a way that we are 535 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,460 not. They even had a special date in the calendar when the door between this 536 00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:56,920 life and the next was left open. 537 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,580 The Night of the Living Dead was a joyous occasion, but now it's become the 538 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,140 fright night that is Halloween. 539 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,300 After a day in the death house trying to keep my own squeamishness in check, I 540 00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:16,060 decided to treat myself to some well -earned relaxation. 541 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:22,780 A sauna, Estonian style. 542 00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:26,560 I'd heard they could be pretty racy places in pagan times. 543 00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:33,510 The bread of love, the bread of joy. 544 00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:36,450 I whip you with the wolf's tail. 545 00:43:36,910 --> 00:43:39,010 I whip you with the fox's tail. 546 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:43,450 May the boys love you as much as the wolf loves the lamb. 547 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,280 Archaeologists believe the smoke sauna has existed in Estonia for at least 2 548 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,420 ,000 years and was the focal point of pagan life. 549 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:03,740 It was used as a source of hot water and peace and quiet when a woman gave 550 00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:04,740 birth. 551 00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:07,640 So it doesn't look much like a modern sauna. 552 00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:09,660 It's quite different. 553 00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:14,300 And as Ritaime casually mentioned to me on the way in, it was also in its own 554 00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:15,940 way a kind of death house. 555 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,240 Until the last century, it was here that corpses were laid out before they were 556 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:22,240 buried. 557 00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:24,380 I couldn't wait to get in there. 558 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:26,180 This is the changing room. 559 00:44:26,740 --> 00:44:29,460 It's a mixed changing room. Is that normal in the sauna? 560 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,960 Yes, it is normal, because in old times there was no question if people had 561 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,960 naked bodies. 562 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,460 And it was no problem to go to a sauna mixed. 563 00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:46,630 I'd learned that pagans had a very different attitude to the body after 564 00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:52,150 And it was clear also they had a completely down -to -earth attitude to 565 00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:53,230 naked body in life. 566 00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:55,630 It was no big deal. 567 00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:57,430 Do you want a towel? 568 00:44:58,030 --> 00:44:59,030 Yes, please. 569 00:44:59,690 --> 00:45:01,350 So what's the temperature going to be like? 570 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:04,370 It's not that hot, at least not for Estonians. 571 00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:07,410 Do you think I can't take the heat? 572 00:45:07,650 --> 00:45:08,650 No. 573 00:45:08,810 --> 00:45:12,430 I was just beginning to relax when Rick brought out the bird twigs. 574 00:45:14,890 --> 00:45:16,770 This is a sledge mower. 575 00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:23,870 And the symbolic part of this twig is that it symbolizes the green power or 576 00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:24,890 power of life. 577 00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:30,570 So it was thought that with the contact of the body, the body would take over 578 00:45:30,570 --> 00:45:32,270 all this energy that is in there. 579 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,460 And so people would either hit themselves with this or hit the other 580 00:45:37,460 --> 00:45:41,040 the sauna with this? Yes, and everybody told thank you for hitting. 581 00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:42,380 Oh, OK. 582 00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:44,660 Thank you. 583 00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:48,660 Is it harder the better, or...? It all seemed pretty civilised, actually. 584 00:45:49,820 --> 00:45:54,300 And this talk of the power of life seemed a direct echo of the pagan world, 585 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,900 which constantly looked to nature for strength, for guidance, for prosperity. 586 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:09,710 So this playful sauna ritual between older and younger women may seem a bit 587 00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:13,910 risque, but seen through pagan eyes, it's actually just another way of 588 00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:15,650 celebrating the power of fertility. 589 00:46:17,090 --> 00:46:21,430 It struck me that the sauna sums up what pagan life was actually all about. 590 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:26,150 But when Christianity came along, all that changed. 591 00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:31,610 People became animalised in the sense that... 592 00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:38,870 It was thought that there is some hidden animal instinct in a person that can 593 00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:42,530 just come out without any warning. 594 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:54,050 The idea that being open about our bodies and sexuality is a bestial or 595 00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:58,350 animalistic thing is the major disservice that Christianity has done to 596 00:47:04,330 --> 00:47:08,350 It's at the root of a lot of the angst that we feel in the modern world today. 597 00:47:11,890 --> 00:47:18,890 In fact, the last 2 ,000 years of anti -pagan propaganda have all 598 00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:23,910 been about distancing ourselves from the animal world, demonising it and 599 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:25,870 suppressing our natural affinity with it. 600 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,220 But in spite of this, I believe our pagan past is still very much a part of 601 00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:34,220 we are today. 602 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,380 Scratch the surface and it's there. Our wild side. Our beast within. 603 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,140 And I think that's a pretty good thing. 54131

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.