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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,219 --> 00:00:06,340 Previously on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City... Okay, listen, 2 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:10,580 I don't ever want to f***ing talk about you again or to you. Stop talking. Stop 3 00:00:10,580 --> 00:00:13,840 talking. Not that f***ing deep, Monica. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,260 May they find peace. 5 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:21,040 Seth and I have been through a lot of ups and downs, so we've decided to start 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,380 podcast about relationships. 7 00:00:22,620 --> 00:00:28,020 If you were to go get a divorce that is not favorable for women in Utah, I would 8 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:30,740 worry that I would lose my children and that he would leave me. 9 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:38,100 I am so focused on my daughter that sometimes I forget that I'm a wife. I 10 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:42,020 my husband feels neglected. Maybe I could add intimacy to my to -do list. 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,780 I enjoyed tonight so much. Like, you're still figuring out where you are in the 12 00:00:49,780 --> 00:00:52,600 journey. This is definitely a big breakthrough for... 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,780 me and lisa i need to be more open to your experience and like the fact that 14 00:00:56,780 --> 00:01:00,320 like instead of just being like it's not fair you can't wear strapless dresses 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,500 and drink tequila i think it's okay to have both 16 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,320 What do I owe this wonderful surprise? 17 00:01:27,060 --> 00:01:32,240 I just miss you so much, and I feel like there isn't so much going on. I need 18 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,240 some updates. 19 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,700 There is a lot going on. 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,800 It's so good to see you. You look so good. Sun kiss. 21 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,300 Life is so good over here, but I... 22 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,200 I'm sad I missed the book signing because I was talking to the girls about 23 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,740 and I just want to hear, like, who came. Like, was it, like, a good turnout? 24 00:01:51,020 --> 00:01:53,120 It was really, really cool. Like, everyone came. 25 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Lisa came. It was such a moment. Lisa wrote, like, a custom rap to introduce 26 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,180 Away in SLP in her new crib in her bed. This best -selling author laid down her 27 00:02:03,180 --> 00:02:03,939 sweet head. 28 00:02:03,940 --> 00:02:05,140 It was like a big... 29 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:10,220 reset for us because there's been so much conflict with jack yeah and jack 30 00:02:10,220 --> 00:02:14,860 on a mission and i was so like worked up about it and triggered by it and like 31 00:02:14,860 --> 00:02:19,820 it was a really cool thing for her to like show up for me just to have that 32 00:02:19,820 --> 00:02:24,220 of support just felt like really fun to have everyone together i'm really like 33 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:29,520 grateful and i wanted to throw like a luncheon for everybody but i want it to 34 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,400 like a spinoff of the mormon thing but like something super fun you have to 35 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,720 it on theme for the girls 36 00:02:41,380 --> 00:02:46,120 Since it's the month of April and April 6th, 1830, that's the founding of the 37 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,300 church. You know, that's the fact that you should have memorized in young 38 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:51,960 And like, well, 39 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:59,380 I thought we could do like pioneer craft, have like pioneer comfort food. 40 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,340 Do you think that's just all the classic? 41 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,800 I want to thank everyone for coming to the book party, and I want to do it in a 42 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,140 way that celebrates kind of the fun, kitschy aspects of our culture, what 43 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:13,740 would call embarrassing aspects of growing up Mormon. Nothing gives me more 44 00:03:13,740 --> 00:03:18,300 pleasure than forcing Lisa to face traditional Mormonism and participate in 45 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:19,300 Mormon handicraft. 46 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,660 I mean, don't you want to see Lisa Barlow in a pioneer bonnet? I think 47 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:24,660 genius. 48 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:34,920 Hey. Hey. 49 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,959 What are you doing? 50 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Texting Anthony. 51 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Texting Anthony? 52 00:03:39,060 --> 00:03:42,120 Yeah, I was talking about prom and the plan. 53 00:03:49,220 --> 00:03:50,780 You stole my blanket, I see. 54 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,340 It was out here for the taking. 55 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,160 It was? Did you show him your dress, by the way? The color? For his tie? 56 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,860 Yeah, I told him. Okay. 57 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,300 Weren't you prom queen your senior year? 58 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,130 Yes. I was. 59 00:04:05,010 --> 00:04:06,370 Did I ever show you the pictures? 60 00:04:06,670 --> 00:04:09,770 No. Oh, my gosh. It's my time to shine. 61 00:04:10,510 --> 00:04:12,710 I'm going to get them, and you're going to see. 62 00:04:13,590 --> 00:04:14,590 Oh, Lord. 63 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:16,169 You're going to die. 64 00:04:16,730 --> 00:04:21,170 Why do you have so many photo albums? Because once upon a time, we had these 65 00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:27,930 things called cameras, and it wasn't your phone, and you had to, like, buy 66 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:32,490 And then go and develop it, leading to a model album. 67 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:34,810 Okay, okay. 68 00:04:35,090 --> 00:04:36,510 Seriously? Oh, my gosh. 69 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:41,090 Look at my boyfriend chat. Actually, let's not look at him. Oh, let's not 70 00:04:41,090 --> 00:04:42,090 at that either. 71 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:46,470 Oh, my gosh. Okay, look. This one right here, this is my senior prom. 72 00:04:46,690 --> 00:04:47,690 Look it. 73 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:49,270 Getting crowned. 74 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,490 And Vovo has my crown. 75 00:04:51,850 --> 00:04:52,850 Of course. 76 00:04:53,470 --> 00:04:54,470 Look at Vovo. 77 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:57,270 That's Vovo? Yes. No, it's not. You're lying. 78 00:04:57,610 --> 00:05:02,210 Look at me pulling her hair. The aggression started from such a young 79 00:05:02,210 --> 00:05:03,970 already knew who she was out the womb. 80 00:05:04,830 --> 00:05:10,390 But this was my first flight ever to Bermuda, which was where Nana was born. 81 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:14,950 And we all went, the whole family. It was Christmas. 82 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:17,170 Look how beautiful Bermuda is. 83 00:05:18,470 --> 00:05:19,590 Oh, my gosh. 84 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:21,930 I, like, miss this. 85 00:05:22,670 --> 00:05:24,270 I want to take you guys to Bermuda. 86 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:25,550 Well, if you think so. 87 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,820 Well, let's just go. 88 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Let's just get on a plane and go. 89 00:05:31,260 --> 00:05:32,260 I don't see the problem. 90 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Okay, I actually have something really special that I wanted to show you. This 91 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:37,280 photo album. 92 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:39,380 I'm not going to get emotional. 93 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:40,780 We'll say that now. 94 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:43,540 Okay. 95 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:54,460 So, when my dad left when I was four, my mom, like, destroyed everything. 96 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,280 I don't even know what my dad looks like. 97 00:05:58,540 --> 00:05:59,800 There's no pictures of him? 98 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,160 No. 99 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:04,860 Volvo, like, ripped them all up, threw everything away. 100 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:11,080 So it was important to me for you to never feel that. 101 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:18,640 And so these are all pictures. This photo album is yours now of me 102 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,580 when I was pregnant with you. 103 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:22,580 But... 104 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,540 It's also of your dad. 105 00:06:30,020 --> 00:06:31,480 Your biological dad. 106 00:06:32,420 --> 00:06:36,540 I got pregnant very young. I married her father at the time. 107 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:43,480 He left for work one day, and my daughter was crawling on the floor, and 108 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,740 hear her playing with something, and it was a clear plastic bag full of 109 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:54,380 Oxycontin. In that moment, I grabbed my daughter, and I never looked back. 110 00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:57,960 I started dating Mike when Bree was one. 111 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:59,840 So that has always been dad. 112 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,200 This is not the first time that Bree has seen these photos. 113 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,020 So Bree is very well aware that Mike adopted her. 114 00:07:08,020 --> 00:07:11,920 Because when I was going through all of this, I went to therapy. And the number 115 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,180 one thing that the therapist told me was, always be honest. 116 00:07:15,420 --> 00:07:22,140 I don't want you to ever feel like how I felt, which was like a whole part of me 117 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:23,140 is missing. 118 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,020 Bobo's dressed up for my birth. 119 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,860 Of course Bobo is dressed up for your birth because it was her day. 120 00:07:31,180 --> 00:07:31,660 All 121 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:41,720 right, 122 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,720 watch your step. 123 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Thanks. 124 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Love your outfit. 125 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:51,500 Hey, how's it going? 126 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Hey, Sean and Angie. 127 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:54,350 All right, we'll be right this way. Thank you. 128 00:07:58,150 --> 00:07:59,150 Thank you. 129 00:08:01,190 --> 00:08:02,610 Feels kind of good to be out, huh? 130 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:03,950 Kind of. Yeah. 131 00:08:04,310 --> 00:08:05,309 Hi, how are you? 132 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:08,210 Hi, see you again. See you, thank you. Sparkling? Of course. 133 00:08:08,590 --> 00:08:12,990 Are you interested in cocktails tonight? A glass of wine? You know, you guys get 134 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:16,970 Angie a great cabernet every time we get in. Yes, we'll do that. And for you, 135 00:08:16,990 --> 00:08:18,650 Sean? I'll have a cup of coffee. 136 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:22,320 See, when you go out with younger women like me, you've got to drink coffee. 137 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:24,420 Right, right. 138 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:36,580 Thank you. 139 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 I wanted to check and see if you guys have made a selection this evening. I'm 140 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,700 going to do your special chicken. 141 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,640 And then I'm going to have a steak. Medium rare plus. 142 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:48,840 Thank you. 143 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,220 So what do we talk about? 144 00:08:56,380 --> 00:08:59,040 We haven't been out, the two of us, for years. 145 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,280 It's like a first date. Like, what do we say to each other? 146 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,420 Would you like that? It's so good. 147 00:09:07,940 --> 00:09:08,940 You know, just... 148 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,140 Something that I've been wanting to share, and I know it's hard with Electra 149 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:18,920 around, even obviously at home, it's like rainbows and unicorns. 150 00:09:19,300 --> 00:09:21,520 And you always want to keep it positive. 151 00:09:22,380 --> 00:09:26,920 Right. It's like we're passing, right? Like we're picking her up. We're going 152 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,860 lessons. You're on the phone. I'm on the phone. You're returning emails. 153 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,000 It's like we're together, but it's like we're not really together. 154 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:40,560 When I'm alone with you, sometimes I feel like lost for words. 155 00:09:41,020 --> 00:09:44,260 This sounds so dumb, but I don't even know what music you like anymore. 156 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:46,460 All the country music you play in your car. 157 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,120 I'm just cringing the whole ride. 158 00:09:50,780 --> 00:09:52,940 When I first met you, you didn't listen to country. 159 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:57,220 I am always listening to country. Not with me in your car. 160 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Then you didn't care what I did because you were so smitten and in love. It 161 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,680 didn't matter what I was doing. 162 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,100 I still love it and I should be allowed to love it. But it's annoying. 163 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:11,870 It's just annoying. When I get yours and you're listening to the Humpty Dance. 164 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:14,570 I haven't seen the Humpty Dance. But that's annoying. 165 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:16,850 Why is that annoying? 166 00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:19,230 Fucking annoying. 167 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:24,710 So what if the Humpty Dance makes me feel like I'm funny? And I don't say 168 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:26,550 anything. You know what I mean? I just play the Humpty Dance. 169 00:10:26,770 --> 00:10:27,629 No, you hate it. 170 00:10:27,630 --> 00:10:30,490 I hate it. You complain. No, I don't. I don't anymore. 171 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:32,830 Right. 172 00:10:33,810 --> 00:10:36,550 It's not even about the music. I think that's part of why. 173 00:10:37,150 --> 00:10:40,250 I haven't loved being alone with you. Like, I don't want to feel like I'm 174 00:10:40,250 --> 00:10:41,350 annoying to my own husband. 175 00:10:42,410 --> 00:10:48,270 You know, it's been two years since you and I have been alone. 176 00:10:51,770 --> 00:10:54,430 You know, we kind of lose the relationship stuff. 177 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:57,730 We're worried about everything else. We're worried about a lecture, the 178 00:10:57,730 --> 00:11:00,570 business, starting something new, the house, building this. 179 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:03,930 And then all of a sudden you're looking around and it's like, okay, do we still 180 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:04,950 have stuff in common? 181 00:11:07,580 --> 00:11:10,900 we're not connecting on a relationship kind of a level. 182 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,720 How do you see us reprioritizing our relationship? 183 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:20,960 Just more time together. 184 00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:26,060 Yeah. Alone, you know? And I think Elektra's totally cool with that. 185 00:11:26,260 --> 00:11:29,720 I know she is. I felt like I needed more of your attention, too. 186 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,140 I tend to hold things in and I don't want to be a complainer. And it felt 187 00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:40,020 to let this out. I feel lighter and I can see that some of the challenges that 188 00:11:40,020 --> 00:11:43,900 Sean and I have between us are things that we can actually work on. It's time 189 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:44,900 that we worry about us. 190 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,020 It's time that we worry about our relationship. It's time that we have a 191 00:11:49,020 --> 00:11:52,420 compromise attitude in terms of having this time together. 192 00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:59,720 Coming up, we are going to churn butter by hand. 193 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Just shake it. Shake it. Take six minutes. 194 00:12:02,620 --> 00:12:05,660 You know what, Heather? This is dirty. You guys have done this for longer than 195 00:12:05,660 --> 00:12:07,640 six minutes. So just get to it. 196 00:12:34,250 --> 00:12:35,930 Is it bad? Did I ruin my car? 197 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:39,610 Oh, my God. 198 00:12:42,090 --> 00:12:43,610 Dang it. I got to tell John. 199 00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:47,350 Hey. 200 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:53,210 Hey. Hi. 201 00:12:54,410 --> 00:12:57,870 I just hit your rock on my car. 202 00:12:58,370 --> 00:12:59,810 The plastic part. 203 00:13:00,220 --> 00:13:04,160 Hit that rock. That giant boulder? Yes. I want to have that removed. You need 204 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,840 to. This is not how I wanted to start this new chapter in my relationship with 205 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Lisa. Having her slam into the boulder. I don't even know if my homeowner's 206 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,480 insurance is activated yet. 207 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,020 I'm going to have to, like, start a GoFundMe for taking out her Porsche. I 208 00:13:18,020 --> 00:13:21,760 some fast food burgers and chicken nuggets. Okay, all my favorite things. 209 00:13:21,980 --> 00:13:22,919 Thanks for coming. 210 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,940 Yeah, thanks for having me. Do you have a super? 211 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,180 No, this is just two best friends hanging out. Oh, I love that. Having a 212 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:31,340 time. Oh, I'm in the bestie phase. 213 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:36,520 Me and Heather are in a new phase in our relationship. Like, she's doing 214 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,720 everything right. 215 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,500 She's got all my favorite treats here. I've got Wendy's with extra barbecue 216 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:43,900 sauce, shortbread cookies from my favorite bakery. 217 00:13:44,420 --> 00:13:48,220 Literally, I hope we can stay in this space because it's the first time in, 218 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,240 like, five years. 219 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Do you have a paper towel or napkin? That's, like... No, I need one. I cannot 220 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,560 believe you just opened a barbecue sauce, like, with a white shirt on a 221 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,320 couch. Girl, I'm a pro. 222 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,460 This is like heart -shaped nails. 223 00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:04,520 That was for Jack's mission call. 224 00:14:04,820 --> 00:14:06,280 I think he's ready to go. 225 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,100 I'm sure. I mean, just to get away from us. Like, I think he just wants to do 226 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,460 his own thing. It's exciting. You know, he's going to Columbia. 227 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:15,320 He's, like, irritated that I keep saying his mission's bougie. 228 00:14:15,740 --> 00:14:16,780 Yeah, that's irritating. 229 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Why do you do that? And then he's like, Mom, it's not a vacation. It's not a 230 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,920 shopping trip. 231 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:26,360 Yeah. Literally not. Listen, this is my first kid going on a mission. You only 232 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,780 have to shop on one day, and it's groceries. 233 00:14:29,450 --> 00:14:32,450 But anyhow, your event was so good, though, Heather. 234 00:14:32,770 --> 00:14:36,470 I was, like, thrilled to have everyone there. I'm mostly excited about, like, 235 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:40,490 the place we're in right now. And I feel like I'm in a good place with everyone. 236 00:14:40,610 --> 00:14:44,070 And we really haven't rewarded ourselves for everything we've been through. 237 00:14:44,690 --> 00:14:46,330 And I want to plan a trip. 238 00:14:46,650 --> 00:14:48,610 Oh, good. Where are you going to go? Where do you want to go? Well, it's 239 00:14:48,610 --> 00:14:49,610 tropical for sure. 240 00:14:49,770 --> 00:14:51,050 Ooh. Ooh, I like that. 241 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:55,250 I went out with Monica last night. Oh, you did? And we went to this new little 242 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:56,770 tiki parlor lounge. 243 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,540 She was telling me that she used to, like, spend her summers in Bermuda. I 244 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:10,140 have, like, family in Bermuda. In Bermuda? 245 00:15:10,460 --> 00:15:13,920 The Bermuda Triangle? The Devil's Triangle. 246 00:15:14,140 --> 00:15:16,980 Oh, that's so crazy. And I was like, so you're telling me that we have people in 247 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:21,040 Bermuda. What if we got everybody together and went to Bermuda, like, for 248 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,360 birthday? Wait, I would die! 249 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:24,000 I would seriously die! 250 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:29,040 But I said, I want to go on this trip, but, like, I, uh... 251 00:15:29,310 --> 00:15:34,550 want to go with lisa and you have to apologize you have to make up with lisa 252 00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:40,610 we do it because she's got to be invited okay fine thank you so easy 253 00:15:40,610 --> 00:15:47,470 let's announce the trip to everyone at the pioneer lunch after like all the 254 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:50,530 progress we've made i do not want you to think that this is like yeah no a move 255 00:15:50,530 --> 00:15:55,120 that i'm trying to like cause problems like i really think that She's going to 256 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,320 make things right, and I think we can have a good time in Bermuda. 257 00:15:57,580 --> 00:16:01,600 I don't care if she's there, but she's not my problem. I don't even need an 258 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,120 apology from her. Like, I'm just not interested. 259 00:16:04,660 --> 00:16:05,660 Yeah. 260 00:16:23,020 --> 00:16:24,020 How are you doing? Good. How about yourself? 261 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:25,379 Really good. 262 00:16:25,380 --> 00:16:27,260 I have a friend joining me. Okay. 263 00:16:29,020 --> 00:16:30,700 Bram, look at you. 264 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,480 You look beautiful. 265 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:34,740 Pretty in pink, girl. 266 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,620 I ordered some oysters and then the egg and chips. Some rosé. 267 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:42,060 Why don't I just do like a... 268 00:16:42,430 --> 00:16:45,150 Pinot Noir. And steak tartare. I'll do that. 269 00:16:45,370 --> 00:16:48,070 Okay. Okay. Thank you. Hi. Don't mean to cut you off. 270 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:50,830 Enjoy. Thank you. These look amazing. 271 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:52,249 They're so good. 272 00:16:52,250 --> 00:16:55,110 I have so much I want to talk to you about. Do you know I haven't been having 273 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:56,110 any girl time? 274 00:16:56,390 --> 00:17:00,290 And I feel like I've been spending more girl time with you and getting out more. 275 00:17:00,370 --> 00:17:02,750 And I have loved it and needed it so much. 276 00:17:02,990 --> 00:17:06,290 We're always taking care of everyone else. And I think it's really important 277 00:17:06,290 --> 00:17:08,569 us to get together and take care of ourselves. 278 00:17:08,869 --> 00:17:09,669 It is. 279 00:17:09,670 --> 00:17:10,970 Like you, I have kids. 280 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:15,020 I have my businesses. I don't even have time for my husband. I talk to Lisa more 281 00:17:15,020 --> 00:17:16,180 than I talk to my husband, right? 282 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:17,579 How are you and Sean? 283 00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:21,319 We hadn't had a date night in two years. 284 00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:23,880 And we finally went out to dinner the other night. 285 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:28,940 Two years? For about 15 minutes, it was like... The awkward silence? 286 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,060 It's awkward silence because Elektra is always with us. I experienced that 287 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:36,060 lately, too, where I'm like, I actually don't know what to say to you. 288 00:17:36,670 --> 00:17:41,030 Like, when we were first married, Justin came home to a home -cooked meal, wife 289 00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:45,590 and lingerie under the clothes. Like, I was, like, the 1950s, like. 290 00:17:45,790 --> 00:17:49,550 Yeah. And I loved it, though. But then I wanted more, and I wanted to develop 291 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:54,510 myself. And I have noticed, especially with Justin going back to work, like, 292 00:17:54,510 --> 00:17:57,750 we're both just doing our own thing, and there's, like, a void. 293 00:17:58,770 --> 00:17:59,870 Yeah. Yeah. 294 00:18:00,070 --> 00:18:03,850 As a couple, I just, I want him to hear me, right? Yeah. 295 00:18:04,410 --> 00:18:06,450 I need to be heard because we're business partners. 296 00:18:06,690 --> 00:18:12,050 Are you feeling like you have a better work life than you do marriage? 297 00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:17,250 We haven't made time, which is, like, embarrassing to say. 298 00:18:17,710 --> 00:18:23,730 We have not made time to be husband and wife. So it's like we're never alone. 299 00:18:23,730 --> 00:18:24,730 When do you expect? 300 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:29,290 We're, like, fighting to, like, even get together with each other, like, once a 301 00:18:29,290 --> 00:18:30,249 week. 302 00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:33,950 I feel like I need to go home and organize more date nights and like 303 00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:35,830 like more alone time. 304 00:18:36,030 --> 00:18:39,090 Don't organize it. Just do it. Do it, do it, do it, do it. 305 00:18:39,470 --> 00:18:44,050 What I'm missing right now is like having my husband back the way that I 306 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:45,050 him. I know. 307 00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:50,450 Justin and I got to a point though, Ange, where it was just like the work is 308 00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:55,130 hard. Where literally like last November, it was our anniversary and we 309 00:18:55,130 --> 00:18:56,130 to Stillwell Spa. 310 00:18:56,830 --> 00:18:59,810 And we literally asked each other, I just asked him, like, do you still want 311 00:18:59,810 --> 00:19:00,810 do this? 312 00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:04,970 And he was like, do you? And I was like, I don't know. 313 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:08,110 Every marriage has its ups and downs. 314 00:19:08,530 --> 00:19:14,130 But Justin and I's current issue is that we are not the same people that we were 315 00:19:14,130 --> 00:19:15,830 when we got married 14 years ago. 316 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:21,500 We are now trying to navigate how to run our household 50 -50. 317 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:25,860 I'm no longer a stay -at -home mom. I have two businesses. I'm very busy. 318 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:29,820 And the way that we communicate as a married couple is different than it used 319 00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:32,520 be. I'm more outspoken than I have been in the past. 320 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,660 So it's just all of those things combined. 321 00:19:37,420 --> 00:19:38,920 You guys seem so together. 322 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,900 Looking at you from the outside, you guys seem together. 323 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:45,640 Justin hates when I say this, but I don't think it's natural to be married. 324 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:49,880 Well, we're like, we are animals, and if you read about animals... I'm doing a 325 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,700 damn good job at it, but it hurts. 326 00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:56,220 Animals don't stay with the same mate their whole life unless they're a duck. 327 00:19:56,420 --> 00:19:57,420 Did you know that? 328 00:19:57,540 --> 00:19:58,540 Uh -huh. 329 00:19:59,260 --> 00:20:00,880 See, I thought ducks would be a slut. 330 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,420 Look, my little Oreo M cookies. 331 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,660 Look how cute they are. 332 00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:30,460 Where do you want Justin and Whitney to sit? 333 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,300 Um, I don't know. Wherever you think. 334 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Seth and I have wanted to get Whitney and Justin on the podcast for a little 335 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,040 while now. 336 00:20:38,060 --> 00:20:41,240 And, you know, with the way things have been with me and Whitney, that was not 337 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,240 an easy ask. 338 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,940 One thing you are, amongst many positive things, is you are emotionally aware. 339 00:20:47,260 --> 00:20:48,079 Thank you. 340 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,100 They would be amazing on our podcast. 341 00:20:50,740 --> 00:20:53,880 But after a couple cocktails, we knew we'd get a yes. 342 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,120 They're here, honey. 343 00:20:58,540 --> 00:20:59,539 Oh, fab. 344 00:20:59,540 --> 00:21:00,540 Let them in. 345 00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:07,200 Group hug, group hug, group hug. Thank you guys so much for coming. 346 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,400 Thanks for having us. 347 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,980 We're excited to see your place. 348 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:11,180 Yes. Hi. 349 00:21:16,670 --> 00:21:22,010 That's actually a great look. This is actually, I think, my favorite photo of 350 00:21:22,010 --> 00:21:23,010 the two of you. 351 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:24,510 Seth, 352 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:28,170 your setup is really not pretty. I'm not done. 353 00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:30,410 Because you're a dirty, stinky boy. 354 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:33,830 I am. I'm always a dirty, stinky boy. 355 00:21:34,030 --> 00:21:37,130 So is Justin. I actually bathe regularly. 356 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:38,910 Can I publicly apologize? 357 00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:42,810 For commenting on your bathtub. Can I see your bathtub? 358 00:21:43,070 --> 00:21:44,070 Can we all go get a bathtub? 359 00:21:45,330 --> 00:21:50,770 The bathtub is ready. We're so good on the bathtub. Question 19. Would you like 360 00:21:50,770 --> 00:21:51,850 to take a bath with us? 361 00:21:55,090 --> 00:21:56,310 Okay, anyway. 362 00:21:56,570 --> 00:22:01,030 Well, welcome back to Hanging by a Thread with Meredith and Seth Marks. 363 00:22:01,030 --> 00:22:03,910 us, Whitney and Justin Rose. 364 00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:08,300 I'm just curious with the theme hanging by a thread, why were we your first 365 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:09,139 couple invited? 366 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:13,260 The whole concept is to talk about relationships and interesting 367 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:16,740 It doesn't mean that your relationship is currently hanging by a thread, but 368 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:21,580 there is something of interest in your relationship that we thought would make 369 00:22:21,580 --> 00:22:23,820 you an excellent couple to come on. 370 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,120 Oh, that's an honor. We're happy to be here. Yeah. And I think people are 371 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,480 delusional if they don't think marriage is hanging by a thread at every second. 372 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,700 It's always hanging by a thread. 373 00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:36,520 I'm going to go to question 18 right away. 374 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:40,040 Craziest place you guys ever had whoopee. 375 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,660 That one time I hid under your desk and got caught. 376 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,680 No. Under the desk. Like, dear Jesus, please. 377 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,220 So question 19. Under the desk with a woman standing in the room. 378 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,340 HR. The head of HR. 379 00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:00,380 No. We're going to leave it there. 380 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,580 You guys are authentic AF. 381 00:23:07,180 --> 00:23:10,180 What's the hardest thing you guys ever went through? 382 00:23:10,580 --> 00:23:11,720 Take us through it. 383 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,700 Hardest thing we ever went through? Yeah. 384 00:23:15,340 --> 00:23:18,180 I would say when his dad died. 385 00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:24,070 I was physically holding him when he passed. 386 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:30,990 Justin couldn't physically be there, so I just stepped up and I did it. And 387 00:23:30,990 --> 00:23:34,290 I held his dad's hand. 388 00:23:34,550 --> 00:23:38,470 We put his mom and dad's hands together. It was like the real -life notebook 389 00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:43,110 because that's what you do for your partner. 390 00:23:45,870 --> 00:23:46,870 That's amazing. 391 00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:49,430 Meredith, you look a little emotional right now. 392 00:23:49,710 --> 00:23:51,940 Yeah. That's really beautiful. 393 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,760 It's really beautiful. 394 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,300 You're so lucky, man. I know. 395 00:23:56,860 --> 00:24:01,540 So to Justin's credit, that's easy for me to step up in that moment because he 396 00:24:01,540 --> 00:24:03,160 steps up for me every day. 397 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,920 Justin, you know, when he married me, he's not only signing up for me, he 398 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,640 supported my dad through his sobriety. When we've had bad news about my 399 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,920 siblings, Justin has stepped in and helped. He's helped my mother. 400 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:19,120 That's marriage and that's being with your partner. 401 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,400 that I've put that man through, just me working my own stuff out, most people 402 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,359 would have left. 403 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,520 Like, technically, I should be on Husband 7. 404 00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:36,560 Everything you said, I think, is probably both cathartic for you, but 405 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,440 good for all of our listeners to hear, and hopefully we, you know, help some 406 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,620 people with whatever they're struggling with. So thank you so much. I love you 407 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:47,320 guys, and I'm so happy we did this today. 408 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:48,620 Is that a wrap? 409 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,960 That's a wrap. 410 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:57,100 Coming up. Okay, there's a game that we're going 411 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,980 to play. Our wagon has too much weight. 412 00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:02,820 Who do you throw off your wagon? 413 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,600 Wow. 414 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:38,219 Oh, hi, Heather. 415 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:42,240 Emily. Yes. Oh, good to see you in person. Hi. How are you doing? Good. 416 00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:43,780 Everything looks awesome. I was just. 417 00:25:44,350 --> 00:25:47,070 Worried about the weather, but it seems like it might hold. 418 00:25:47,270 --> 00:25:50,730 Yes, and this is pretty here. This looks spectacular. Show me everything. This 419 00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:54,390 is so wonderful. We have your care. He is back in the kitchen. Okay, Chef 420 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:55,990 Ortega. He's been great. 421 00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:57,990 And the bartender, he's all set up there. 422 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:59,129 Okay, wonderful. 423 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:02,010 We've got their bonnets and aprons. This is going to be the hard sell. 424 00:26:02,270 --> 00:26:04,290 If they knew this was happening, they wouldn't come. 425 00:26:04,550 --> 00:26:08,530 I got the message in Palm Springs that these ladies do not like to dress up, 426 00:26:08,530 --> 00:26:10,110 the bonnets and aprons, they're a must. 427 00:26:10,510 --> 00:26:11,650 I want to pick mine. 428 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:16,600 Right now, based on my outfit, what color I want to do. I want these prima 429 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,540 donnas to feel a little bit of the grit that created the state of Utah. 430 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,660 These bonnets are brimmed to keep the sun from our face, to keep the dust out 431 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:30,120 our mouths, to keep us safe as we trudged across the plains. 432 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,440 Well, hello. 433 00:26:31,660 --> 00:26:32,660 Oh, hi. 434 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:34,820 How are you? Good. 435 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,180 Meredith Marks with her styrofoam cut. Hi. 436 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,240 Let me introduce you to our barkeep. 437 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,240 What are you trying to do? This is a jalapeno blackberry margarita. It's not 438 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,880 sweet at all. Maybe I'll just have it. You want to try one of those? All right. 439 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Hey. 440 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Hi. I dress for spring, not for winter. I know. Thank you. It's Utah weather. 441 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200 Oh, no. Why are there bonnets and dresses here? Because I know. 442 00:26:56,460 --> 00:27:00,900 Listen. Oh, my gosh. I can't tell you it's a surprise, but it's going to be 443 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:01,900 worth it. 444 00:27:02,429 --> 00:27:04,370 No more costumes. We do not do costumes anymore. 445 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:07,690 No. Oh, good. I would never make you guys do a costume play. I would, 446 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:10,450 ask for a take in honoring our shared heritage. 447 00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:12,470 Which is not a costume. What's shared heritage? 448 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:16,430 You can pick the color, the complementary outfit. Those aren't my 449 00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:18,530 Are we really putting these on? 450 00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:21,690 Okay, let me see. 451 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:23,870 I feel you look really cute in this. 452 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:25,530 She doesn't look bad. 453 00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:28,790 You look like a homeless bird. Let me take a picture. Are you not going to tie 454 00:27:28,790 --> 00:27:30,350 your bow? What the hell? 455 00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:32,170 That's what I said. Oh, a cousin. 456 00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:34,470 A cousin. What are you wearing? 457 00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:37,970 What do you mean? Do you recognize our native attire? 458 00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:40,210 What the is happening? 459 00:27:40,510 --> 00:27:44,210 You wrote a book about leaving the Mormon church. Why are we going right 460 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:45,109 where it started? 461 00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:46,110 Are you being serious? 462 00:27:46,270 --> 00:27:51,530 This is for you. As long as we are not making vows, I can go along with it, I 463 00:27:51,530 --> 00:27:52,489 think. 464 00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:53,490 Wow, you. 465 00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:56,390 Hi. Hi, how are you? 466 00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:58,590 Pick your bonnet and apron. 467 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,520 It goes with the cream. 468 00:28:00,820 --> 00:28:02,440 Look at you. How are you? 469 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,060 Pioneer marks over here. 470 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,540 Oh, my gosh. You look so good. Hi, Lisa. 471 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:16,260 I woke up today and decided to choose peace. 472 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:19,780 So, yay. 473 00:28:20,020 --> 00:28:21,020 Happy to be here. 474 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,920 How dare you? 475 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,320 Look at my hair. 476 00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:31,660 I know. 477 00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:32,780 Oh, my God. 478 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,720 Wait. Little black people are sheep. 479 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:37,180 Bad. 480 00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:41,780 Bad girl. We just go, bitch. 481 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Bitch. 482 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:46,500 Okay. 483 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,320 I would like to make a toast to all of my sister wives. 484 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,020 I wanted to say thank you to you guys for showing up for the book event for my 485 00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:57,100 reading of Bad Mormon. 486 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,820 And it reminded me. 487 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000 April is the month that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints was 488 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,500 founded, April 6, 1830. 489 00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:09,580 And so I wanted to have some fun today and focus on the fun aspects of that, of 490 00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:13,000 our heritage. We're going to do some fun pioneer crafts, so I hope you know how 491 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,100 to turn butter by hand. 492 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,460 So in honor of our differences, but also the things that bring us together. 493 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Cheers. Cheers. 494 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:24,620 Wait, what did they say in Pioneer Time? 495 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,820 They said get your ass over to that barrel and keep your mouth shut. You're 496 00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:29,820 woman. 497 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,640 So we are going to churn butter by hand. And all you need is heavy cream and 498 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,800 some salt if you like salted butter. 499 00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:40,160 You take your jar and you're going to fill the cream up halfway. 500 00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:47,610 These types of crafts are deeply embedded in our culture. There are 501 00:29:47,610 --> 00:29:52,290 everywhere where you can buy jars to churn butter and yarn for handkerchief 502 00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:56,070 dolls. This is not something that I've had to seek out. How do you think I 503 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:58,970 pioneer bonnets and aprons on a moment's notice? 504 00:29:59,470 --> 00:30:03,470 Just shake it. Shake it. It's got to hit the top of the lid and the bottom. Take 505 00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:04,470 six minutes. 506 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:07,750 All you have to do is shake it. You're turning the butter, but you're turning 507 00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:08,269 by hand. 508 00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:12,110 What is this? The maracas turn? That is not going to turn your butter. 509 00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:14,310 It has to hit the top of the jar. 510 00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:19,510 You have to, like, be vigorous. Like, it's got to, like, dirty. It only takes 511 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:21,910 six minutes. You guys have done this for longer than six minutes. 512 00:30:22,330 --> 00:30:23,670 So just get to it. 513 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,580 I need you to really dig deep. Two hands. 514 00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:32,820 Here we go. 515 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,400 I'd like to win. 516 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,980 I'm going to win. 517 00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:39,520 Okay, so let's let our butter sit, and we'll assess it in a minute. I'm going 518 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,120 take you on to our next wonderful craft. 519 00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:46,980 I raise my children that once you start something, you have to finish it. I 520 00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:48,320 don't see any butter on the table. 521 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Okay, so. What are we doing, Heather? 522 00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:56,470 When these horses were small, the pioneer children or parents, probably 523 00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:59,730 moms, would have to go find like a pine cone or a rock. 524 00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:04,290 And they would take one of their handkerchiefs, draw a face, and tie a 525 00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:08,450 knot in all four corners of the handkerchief. And that makes like little 526 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:09,169 and feet. 527 00:31:09,170 --> 00:31:10,170 So it's a doll. 528 00:31:12,910 --> 00:31:15,710 Whitney, yours looks like a giant old -fashioned lollipop. 529 00:31:15,970 --> 00:31:17,710 Sister Gay is not f***ing around. 530 00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:19,710 This is the weirdest day of my life. 531 00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:21,550 Okay, pencils down. 532 00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:23,450 Meredith, present your doll to the group. 533 00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:25,090 This is my pink pioneer. 534 00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:31,070 She's definitely wearing the icy bling. 535 00:31:31,330 --> 00:31:34,250 She has jewels. They'll cut her hands off for that on the trail. 536 00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:36,650 I have Trina the trucker. 537 00:31:38,650 --> 00:31:40,010 Say hello to Margaret. 538 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:44,650 This is Celestial. 539 00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:47,090 Okay, this is Eunice. 540 00:31:47,770 --> 00:31:48,910 She's a good time girl. 541 00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:50,370 Watch your turn better. 542 00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:54,050 Can you see your little hand? 543 00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:56,610 Watch your sweep. 544 00:31:59,510 --> 00:32:05,090 This is Molly to represent Molly Mormon, which at one point I was. 545 00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:12,550 And now she bears a scarlet letter to remind all the good other pioneers on 546 00:32:12,550 --> 00:32:17,370 trail, since all of you are goody goodies, that this is really what the 547 00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:18,249 is about. 548 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:23,990 which is forgiveness, and welcoming the black sheep into the fold. 549 00:32:31,510 --> 00:32:32,610 Coming up. 550 00:32:33,290 --> 00:32:39,390 And you're being crazy. 551 00:32:53,770 --> 00:32:54,770 I'm over here. 552 00:32:57,770 --> 00:33:01,130 So are the bonnets staying on during the meal? I think it's appropriate. 553 00:33:01,390 --> 00:33:05,710 I'm keeping the bonnet on because it's keeping the heat in. Are we allowed to 554 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:09,270 take a break from churning to eat, or do we just keep churning? 555 00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:11,410 No, you definitely want to take a break. 556 00:33:13,410 --> 00:33:17,030 Okay, you guys, the menu is, like, created around Pioneer Comfort Foods. 557 00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:20,570 got, like, ribs, some cornbread with Utah honey. 558 00:33:21,330 --> 00:33:25,610 This is mac and cheese, which is a pioneer comfort food that our ancestors 559 00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:27,050 have wanted us to enjoy. Okay. 560 00:33:27,390 --> 00:33:29,830 You know, I'm only a quarter of the way through the Book of Mormon, but I'm 561 00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:33,310 pretty sure in this sacred text, there's no talking about cornbread, mac and 562 00:33:33,310 --> 00:33:34,450 cheese, and ribs. 563 00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:37,190 These are funeral potatoes. 564 00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:40,230 Even though you're East Coast Mormon, you've had funeral potatoes. 565 00:33:40,510 --> 00:33:41,510 Are you going to serve? 566 00:33:42,250 --> 00:33:43,250 I've never had them in my life. 567 00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:47,030 I love them. That's my favorite. I can't even Mormon with you, Lisa. 568 00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:49,110 Can we Mormon over like Jell -O? 569 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:54,000 These are a staple at missionary farewells. Whitney, have you ever been 570 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,260 missionary farewell without funeral potatoes? 571 00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:58,520 I make funeral potatoes all the time. I make the best. You do? 572 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:00,720 I love Mormon food. 573 00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:04,120 I thought Greek food was good. This is actually really good, though. It's 574 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,260 flavorful. Right? 575 00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:07,820 I think this is the modern take. 576 00:34:08,179 --> 00:34:10,280 They probably just killed the deer and ate it. 577 00:34:13,870 --> 00:34:17,270 Okay, there's another game that we're going to play. Oh, my gosh. 578 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:20,550 A pioneer favorite. It's called Who's on Your Wagon? Ooh. 579 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:23,989 Imagine you're on a wagon train. 580 00:34:25,389 --> 00:34:28,929 You're crossing the plains. The oxen are worn. 581 00:34:29,130 --> 00:34:30,250 You're at winter's quarters. 582 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:33,010 The snow, an early winter storm has come in. 583 00:34:33,310 --> 00:34:36,050 And our wagon has too much weight. 584 00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:38,650 So one person has to go. 585 00:34:39,070 --> 00:34:41,210 Who do you throw off your wagon? 586 00:34:45,389 --> 00:34:48,110 Wow. Hey, Lisa, who are you kicking off your wagon thing? 587 00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:49,570 Well, 588 00:34:49,929 --> 00:34:52,770 I'm a big supporter of women, so I would keep everyone. 589 00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:57,200 But the one that's the nastiest to women. So, Monica, you would have to go. 590 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,360 Just because you're mouthy and mean to women. 591 00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:01,140 Oh, my God. You're so nasty. 592 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160 No, I'm not. You really are nasty. I'm honest. There's a difference. 593 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,380 That's not honest. 594 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:06,620 There's not a difference. 595 00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:07,859 You're just nasty. 596 00:35:07,860 --> 00:35:11,140 You like my voice so much, you like to use it all the time. I love that. I hate 597 00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:13,000 your voice so much, actually. It's really annoying. 598 00:35:13,540 --> 00:35:15,500 I don't think that's your real voice, to be honest. 599 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,660 You wouldn't know because we're not friends. 600 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,880 No, we're not. 601 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,960 We're not. 602 00:35:20,090 --> 00:35:23,850 One of the main goals of this brunch is for Monica and Lisa to make amends that 603 00:35:23,850 --> 00:35:26,630 we can go on this trip without all of this tension. 604 00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:29,170 And Lisa opens up with nasty to women. 605 00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:32,730 Couldn't you have said something a little softer like, we're scared you'll 606 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,630 with our brother -in -laws or something that we could have come back from? 607 00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:40,090 You know what's nasty is comments about someone's parents not wanting them. 608 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:44,310 They're not my mother, so I don't need to listen to you. No one wants to be her 609 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:45,570 mother, clearly. 610 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:55,020 So the real nasty picture is you. Ted Bundy. My mom was very, very charming 611 00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:58,900 very charismatic and very nice, and so was Ted Bundy. 612 00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:04,110 The real nasty picture is you. bitch here is you. No, you told your mom Ted 613 00:36:04,110 --> 00:36:08,090 Bundy and anyone that could talk about their mother like that will never be 614 00:36:08,090 --> 00:36:12,410 friend. You used to kill people, have sex with them, decapitate them, and eat 615 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:13,830 them. That's nasty. 616 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:19,710 I'm not up to date on all my serial killer facts, but I'm pretty sure it was 617 00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:22,410 Jeffrey Dahmer that ate people, not Ted Bundy. 618 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:27,790 It makes sense that you like the fakest one, because fake likes fake. 619 00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:29,690 Like, just be quiet. 620 00:36:31,810 --> 00:36:34,350 No, because we weren't done. We weren't done with that. I was done. 621 00:36:34,590 --> 00:36:35,930 We were not done with that. 622 00:36:36,130 --> 00:36:37,470 Hey, remember the Greek wedding? 623 00:36:37,690 --> 00:36:43,150 And you didn't get to tell me. I didn't. I didn't. It is not okay. You are so 624 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:44,570 nasty on the inside. 625 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:46,330 You are so ugly. 626 00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:49,570 I hate liars. 627 00:36:49,830 --> 00:36:51,730 There's nothing uglier than a liar. 628 00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:53,070 Monica! 629 00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:56,090 Monica! Monica! Monica! Monica! Monica! 630 00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:57,590 Monica! 631 00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:06,730 The hypocrisy is like next level. 632 00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:15,870 The fact that I'm being made to feel like I'm in the wrong when I'm just 633 00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:21,470 defending myself is very triggering for me. I think this is very similar to 634 00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:26,170 situations with my mom where it's like you can say disgusting, awful, hurtful, 635 00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:28,410 mean things, but you're never in the wrong. 636 00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:32,010 Come on, Monica. Come on. Get up. Bring your butter. 637 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,920 Are you fine? 638 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,240 What's going on? I'm just being quiet. 639 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,860 We have to announce the trip. I'm not going. 640 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,840 Are you fine? 641 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:02,700 Why are you like a different person right now? What's going on? I'm just 642 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,020 quiet. We have to announce the trip. I'm not. 643 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,980 going. You're not going? 644 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,440 Why? What did she say that hurt you to this point? 645 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840 What? 646 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,520 I'm being sincere. I don't understand. Were you not at that table? 647 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,980 Yeah, but it was tit for tat. It was both of you guys. Equal. No, it was all 648 00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:22,760 you against me. 649 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:24,800 You know what? Hold on. 650 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,300 She sat down and came right for me. No, she didn't. It was a game. That was not 651 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:31,019 a game. 652 00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:32,320 It was a game. Hey, 653 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,740 listen. If you need For me to acknowledge that your mom's not nice to 654 00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:43,360 sorry. And by me saying I saw her being nice does not mean I negate any of your 655 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,220 feelings. The bottom line is, Heather put a lot of effort into this lunch and 656 00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:52,140 this trip she planned for all of us. And if it means, like, talking to Monica 657 00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:53,980 and, like, working this out, I'm willing to do it. 658 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,060 Is that where I missed? 659 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,680 I don't know. 660 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:03,420 I'm just going to apologize for saying you were ugly. 661 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:05,180 I didn't mean that. 662 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,800 Thanks. 663 00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:09,900 It shouldn't be this way. We didn't start off this way. 664 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,440 Do you know what I mean? Like, let's just take a deep breath, move forward. 665 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:17,419 Mm -hmm. 666 00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:18,420 Come on. 667 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,080 Okay. Are we peaceful? 668 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:31,780 You don't have to be besties, but peaceful? 669 00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:35,050 Monica, I apologize. We're going to move forward. 670 00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:37,110 Okay, ladies. 671 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:39,950 These are not just place settings, you guys. 672 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:47,890 These are actually invitations from Monica and me to go on a spectacular 673 00:39:47,890 --> 00:39:52,090 trip to a foreign passport -required location. 674 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,480 Come on, Monica. 675 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,980 Okay, so these are the clues. The first clue is where we're going is easy. 676 00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:17,480 So why would a sea cell be important? 677 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:18,820 Because we're going to the ocean. 678 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,380 We're going somewhere near the ocean. 679 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,860 That's where we're going is an island. 680 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:29,440 It's somewhere with what Monica told them. You're the only person here that's 681 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,500 seen it. Pink sand in an ocean. 682 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:33,040 Pink sand. Get your pink sand out. 683 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:37,120 Does anyone know where pink sand beaches exist? Bermuda. 684 00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:40,260 Oh, my gosh. 685 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,680 You're the smartest one here. 686 00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:45,820 We're going to Bermuda. 687 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:49,040 Monica used to go there for the summers with her grandmother. 688 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,340 It's part of the New York Mission. 689 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,500 It has a huge Portuguese community. And Monica, tell them why there's a tiny 690 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:55,500 little skull. 691 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,500 Because we're all going home to hell, to Devil's Triangle, where we all belong. 692 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,080 Okay. 693 00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:11,220 Are you okay? 694 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:12,700 I feel done. 695 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:14,260 I'm done. I'm spent. 696 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,220 So we're not going on the trip? 697 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,960 I really don't think it's a good idea for me to go. 698 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:29,620 That's how I feel right now. Well, we planned it around you and Bermuda. 699 00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:33,580 And your grandma and the summers you spent there. Yeah, that was a very 700 00:41:33,580 --> 00:41:37,200 different... This is totally different energy. Like, you were attacking her. 701 00:41:37,850 --> 00:41:40,970 full force, and now you're crying and acting like we all came at you? 702 00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:51,690 I always really wondered why Jen never had anything nice to say about 703 00:41:51,690 --> 00:41:55,830 Heather and Lisa, and now I know exactly why. 704 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:59,030 Well, Bermuda's going to be great fun. 705 00:42:02,330 --> 00:42:03,590 Where is that Monica? 706 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:06,810 Y 'all killed her. Real quick. 707 00:42:09,740 --> 00:42:10,740 She's dead. 708 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:12,500 Like Taylor Swift said. 709 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,760 What? 710 00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:15,260 She's dead. 711 00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:23,740 Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 712 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,460 What is your perfect man? 713 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,500 He's famous. He has a ski mascot. 714 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,280 There are therapists in the house. 715 00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:34,900 I don't want Pioneer Day Part 2 to happen in Bermuda. I'm starting to 716 00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:37,840 that you can never really count on what you're going to get with Monica. 717 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,960 The trip is hanging in the balance. 718 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,560 I just got a really bad message. 719 00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:44,060 What? 720 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,320 I feel like... She's got... She gets nasty. That one. Mm -hmm. 721 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,760 The whole thing with Angie felt icky, and I don't want to be around this 722 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,320 anymore. I am not the one bringing the tornado. 723 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,040 Come with us back. 724 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,160 Everything's about you. 725 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,360 No, it's not. 726 00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:07,020 And I'm always there for you. Always there for you. Always there for you. 727 00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:09,170 Bye. 58414

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