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Previously, this season on The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City.
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There's not a place that I can go right
now and sing spiritual or non -spiritual
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songs with a community that I love.
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I know the amount of pressure that you
have on you. You're writing a book.
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I'm writing a book about leaving the
Mormon church and I decided to call it
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Mormon.
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Chris Harrington started an Instagram
page called Shaw Exposed.
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In a very immature moment.
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I created a fake account.
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Which straw breaks the camel's back?
It's unbelievably serious to me.
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And I have the most forgiving heart.
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Are you serious? Yeah, I am serious.
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I was about to open up my house, not
open up my wallet, and you haven't said
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word, not even a thank you card.
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Don't you ever expect me to have your
back.
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Don't.
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Do you really not remember?
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I remember how I got it. You do? Yeah.
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And other people know how I got it, too.
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The judge is pushing the trial out till
July.
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I'm just tired of people questioning my
innocence.
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I understand, baby.
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I'm not saying that she's guilty, but
there has to be something.
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I don't even let myself go there because
I'm like, I have to believe she's
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innocent until they prove her guilty.
Lisa, and I'm kind of right there with
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because I've had people ask me the same
question.
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I'm fighting for my life, not your
approval.
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I am more of a free spirit without the
Holy Spirit.
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I'll always have your back if you stop
dabbing me in mine.
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When I take a shot, I always hit my
mark.
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I may be a bad Mormon, but I'll always
be a good son.
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Author of the hour.
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Hi. Hi.
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This is thick.
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Yeah. This is so good. This is so good.
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We're going to brand these windows with
the name of the book so that everybody
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knows. So it's going to be like a peek
in. Like details on the glass? Details
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the glass. Okay. And I think like the
views are great. It's going to be
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nighttime and like twinkly. I like the
view coming off the pool. That's pretty
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cool. I think we keep the book right
here.
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Okay. How big is it? It's four feet wide
and six feet tall. So it's pretty big.
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Wow. That's big. Yeah.
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I remember when I first got the email
talking to me about a possible book.
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And I've been working on it for over a
year. And we finally have an actual
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cover. And it's a pretty big deal.
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The choir will be over here.
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Oh, those are risers. It's like a built
-in riser with a really thick view of
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the city behind it. I love that.
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Is there a theme?
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It's cocktail attire.
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Is the book out?
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Tonight is the book cover reveal.
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Is there a title?
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Bad Mormon.
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Oh, my gosh.
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That's an impulse buy at the airport for
me.
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Thanks for the tea. I just don't know if
I'm going to be able to sing tonight.
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I can barely hear myself.
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What?
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I can barely hear myself. What?
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Myself.
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Is it church hymns? Because I'm going to
have some PTSD.
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Church hymns, yes.
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So cocktail attire, but potentially LDS
hymns?
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Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
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But I auditioned for the choir, but then
everything that's happened between
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Heather and I, I just decided, like, I
really don't have time.
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to be in the choir, nor do I really want
to be, but I want to support her. This
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is her healing. This is her. The fact
that you would even try out Whitney in a
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choir, props to you for supporting your
friend.
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Yeah.
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Are you the bartender for the evening?
It's probably good that we get well
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acquainted before everyone gets here.
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Can I start with the sun being spritzer?
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Because I think I'll be probably at
outer darkness sooner than I want to be.
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really want tonight to be a night where
we all get along and like where everyone
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feels welcome and no conflict erupts.
And if there is a fight, I would like it
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to occur right in front of my bad Mormon
cover poster.
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If it doesn't go my way, I'm fully
prepared to exploit it.
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Well, congrats. I'm excited for you.
Thanks for coming.
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Thanks for having us. Have you been
practicing?
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I've been good in the shower, but it's
not the same.
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God be with us till we meet again.
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I plan on a smooth, cool evening with
friends just like celebrating each
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you know?
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You know? Yeah. I think we can do that.
We can do that. Let's go get you guys a
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drink.
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Oh my gosh, your eye looks so much
better. I know.
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Angie brought the test.
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Oh, just in case. I like your hair. Your
eye looks so much better. I know, it's
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way better. It's totally gone.
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Just like the memory of it.
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I hope. The memory's never going away,
Heather.
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I think it's going to be the topic of
many conversations.
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I wanted it to be like not the main
issue and now it's become the only
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you want the attention diverted from
your black eye and you don't want people
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talking about it, Just say what
happened, and then we'll all move on.
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a big game for Heather.
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I know it wasn't me.
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Are we wearing the same thing?
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I mean, a little bit of, like, lace up
high. You look so pretty. I'm really
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that Whitney showed up, but I feel like
it's painted somehow. It's not that pure
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relationship we once had where I could
count on her for anything, and we were
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it together.
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I'm hoping we can get back there. How y
'all doing? I'm doing great. Yeah, it's
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great to see you again.
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Hey, how are you? The golden girl.
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Oh my gosh, hi.
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I love you. You look gorgeous.
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Hi. Oh my gosh, hi.
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You guys, excuse me. I'm just going to
say hi to those other line of the
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So let me go say hi.
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How are you guys?
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Hi. Come on.
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Hello. How are you?
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This is a sunbeam spritzer. You can tell
my mom.
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These are my people. This is my family.
These are the girls that showed up for
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me on ski day that have continued to
show up for me while I'm writing a book
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called Bad Mormons.
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And it means the world to me that they
would be interested in what I'm doing in
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my life.
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Do you think my mom's going to freak out
seeing that all you guys came and she
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missed it? I hope so.
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Valerie, you don't miss words, do you?
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You're going to tank top.
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Maybe there's another bad Mormon in the
group.
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Tonight is Greek Easter at midnight.
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New beginnings, resurrection. I'm waking
up today in honor of Greek Easter, and
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I've had my eyes open to Jen.
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I'm definitely planning on talking to
Jen tonight. Jen is putting out there to
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people and suggesting that I'm the one
that's responsible for her eyes. That's
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ludicrous. It is ludicrous. Crazy.
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A friend told me after the fashion show,
Jen pulled our friend Jake aside and
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told him, don't get too close to Angie
because she's the one that punched
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Heather in the eye. And she's trying to
put rumors out there because, you know,
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and ruin my good name because hers is in
the toilet.
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That is nothing I would even be capable
of doing.
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Why do you think Jen is doing this? You
know, once Jen turns on you or feels
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that she has...
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You know, you have crossed her.
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She'll forever be out to get you.
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This is the final straw for me to go out
and say that I would actually hurt
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someone when she's been the violent one,
she's been the aggressive one. We've
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all seen it. Guess what? Everybody is
saying that perhaps her and Heather were
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in their room doing Barbie scissor kicks
and then Jen beat the shit out of her.
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Barbie scissor kicks.
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The Barbie scissor kicks and then
getting the shit out of you? Wait, what
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mean by Barbie scissor kicks?
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Well, let's just say it sounds like, you
know, people are assuming they're in
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the room having a sexual relationship
and then romping, bumping, and giving
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other a black eye after because maybe
someone wasn't very good in bed in the
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end. Who knows? I really don't think I
like this mental visual.
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Like, Heather, like, how would this
work? Like, when...
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Two girls come together, naked, heels
on, heels off, and,
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you know.
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That's a rumor?
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That's a rumor.
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Coming up.
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You know, we're just a few days from
trial.
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How are the boys doing?
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Romping, bumping, and giving each other
a black eye after because maybe someone
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wasn't very good in bed in the end. Who
knows?
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I mean, they say every female is three
shots away from being a lesbian.
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Look, I could have these moments where
these glimmers of hope that I could move
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forward with her, but she's not well.
Hi.
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Oh, my gosh. Speaking of good dudes.
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We're going to come right back, Tweety.
We're going to have a nice conversation
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real fast. Yes, we'd love to.
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I'm glad that we got to see you guys
tonight because we've been wanting to
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to y 'all.
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The things that were done and what was
put up.
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In order for me to find a path of
reconciliation and forgiveness, I need
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from you.
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First of all, thank you for being
willing to meet with us. Absolutely.
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My part, it hadn't...
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Sorry.
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I think what he's trying to say is as
personal as it felt, I...
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It was not personal.
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And I understand. I think we understand
that why it would feel so personal. Of
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course. Of course. It's your family
name. It's your family name. Of course.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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And I accept the apology.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank
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you for being here. Of course.
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Of course.
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We're going to start our performance. If
you guys want to make your way, John
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and Seb, grab a drink and come watch the
choir.
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You look beautiful, by the way.
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Thank you. Really? Not too slutty? No, I
look slutty. Are they thinking?
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Should we go?
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Yeah.
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I can't tell. Am I on key? I have no
idea.
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I know a lot of other people aren't.
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I'm not the best singer, but knowing
that I'm surrounded
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by other singers and my voice will be
drowned out.
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First, I wanted to thank this beautiful
choir for their willingness to fulfill a
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weird wish I had, which was to create a
community in song without any religious
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organization attached.
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And we're here to celebrate this book.
And so I've been thinking a lot about
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like what it means to me and kind of the
changes I've been through in the last
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few years.
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But a scripture kept coming to me.
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John 15, 13, greater love hath no man
than this, that he lay down his life for
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his friends.
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And that's the kind of friend that I've
always aspired to be.
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And I'm not great at it, but the
intention is to always be a ride
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or die for everyone.
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And if I am a bad Mormon, I hope I can
still just be a good friend.
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And thank you all for coming tonight.
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Five, four, three, two, one.
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Future
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New
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York Times bestseller.
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For a devout Mormon, this cover is.
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sacrilegious, blasphemous, and terribly
offensive.
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These are secrets you don't reveal.
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And I'm not only revealing them, but I'm
putting my faith on the cover of the
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book. And that's why I'm seeking grace
and support for those that aren't
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offended by it.
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It's a great cover. I'm just wondering,
like, what's going to go inside.
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Nothing like being invited to a book
party with no books for sale.
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You know, it's like me having a Vita
tequila party with no tequila.
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Crazy.
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Oh, my gosh. I think I look so tan.
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When are you going to write a book?
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Oh, I don't know. I feel like I should.
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I just happen to like myself. There is
nothing wrong with liking myself and
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being confident.
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You should carve it with Carver Cousins.
Carver.
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Jen and I literally haven't talked since
the trip, and I feel like we took a few
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steps back in San Diego.
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Okay, here's who you want. We'll break
it down for you because you want to
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You're digging. You want to know?
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I told them I tried to commit suicide,
and then Sharif had to take me to the
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hospital. Is that what you wanted to
know? Because you want to dig and dig
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dig.
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After the trip from San Diego, I felt
like we went into it in a very good
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united. We did, absolutely.
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I felt it flip -flopped.
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Once we got with Heather and the group,
it felt like a gang -up on me.
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I knew we had moments, but I in no way
felt like there was an issue or that I
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was coming at you. I need to have an
opportunity to talk to Jen.
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I'll go over there with you.
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Well, I had no idea that you felt like
that.
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All right, let me go see what's going on
over here.
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One -on -one, Jen, you are so amazing,
so much fun.
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In San Diego, the Jen that I built what
I thought was a strong relationship
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with, I just felt like she wasn't there
on the trip.
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And I didn't feel like that, just so you
guys know. The Heather thing, well...
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And you know what?
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You have very... Jen, there's a reason
to know. You have a reason to know.
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Angie, I'm talking to Lisa right now.
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I do owe you an explanation for some
things. But going into the trip... Going
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into the trip... Okay, Jen, let's stop
talking about the trip for a minute. No,
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no, no. I'm just pointing it out. That's
my... Yeah, this is very general. Let
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me finish something. Okay, wrap it up.
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That's my... Let me finish something.
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I was talking to Whitney and then
everyone just jumped over here. Go e
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that convo. I do not want to be a part
of that. I have to go to the restroom.
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Where is my purse?
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I'm trying to be respectful and finish
this conversation. You are going around
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spreading rumors that I gave Heather a
black eye.
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You went and told somebody that I'm
responsible for Heather's black eye.
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a lie. I never said that. You didn't say
anything about me giving Heather black
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eye or being involved in her black eye?
I never said one thing about you giving
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Heather a black eye. That is not true.
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Oh, what's happening?
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Sharif, can you come here, please?
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Yeah.
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Coach, she gets abusive and bully -like
to people like me who have had her back.
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You know, Angie, she's telling me that
this girl has pushed her to the brink of
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suicide, so I have her back.
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And then now everything's like, was it
even real?
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Like, did she really push you to that or
is it all fake?
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Please tell her. Are you serious? Was it
real? Yes, tell her.
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Go, go, go. That was very, very real.
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No, I didn't say it was a real film. It
was a real one. Were her feelings
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against this woman real?
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Absolutely real.
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I have never met anybody in my...
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I don't want a f***ing camera in my
face.
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And I think it's healthy for them to all
have peace. But it's hard for me to
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trust because she flip -flops on
everything. She flip -flops about you.
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She obviously said something about me
having involvement with your black eye.
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She also said that a spider laid eggs in
my eye. Yes, there was a lot of great
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stories. Do you want peace with Jen or
do you want to be? What is your
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here? There's no way to move forward
with her.
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I'm telling you, because it will just
keep coming back.
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Baby, let's go.
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All right, we're going to take off. You
are?
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Thank you so much. It was so wonderful.
You did great.
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Thank you, thank you.
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Heather, you're beautiful. You're
amazing. Seriously.
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This is one of many performances, so
this is just the beginning. We're going
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do it again.
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I'll write another book.
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Oh,
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is
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my hair going to burn?
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Part of it's synthetic.
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It was so fun to look out and see you.
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Can I help it?
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You want to get a drink?
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Yeah. Okay.
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Oh, my gosh, I can't believe the day is
here.
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I know. Yeah?
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It's surreal for me because I'm like,
the next time that I come home,
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I'll either be guilty or innocent.
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You'll be innocent.
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We know that, right?
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I wish Dad was here to help.
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I would just... Feel better.
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Remember what Grandma and everybody has
always said in the Hawaiian culture and
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the Tongan culture. You're always
surrounded by your ancestors.
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They're always around you. But when you
call their name, they're right next to
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you.
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So when you walk into that courtroom,
before you walk in, you call.
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You call your grandma and your grandpa
and your dad and everybody, and they'll
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be right there with you.
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My mom is somebody I lean on a lot.
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She's so supportive, and I don't tell
her thank you enough.
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It made me cry, you know, when you were
like, I'm going to cash out my
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retirement accounts.
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I'm going to give you this money and
this cash and put up these properties.
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Well, sweetheart, you are innocent, and
I'm going to do whatever I can, and I'll
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tell you what.
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How can I enjoy life if things don't go
right for you? You know what I'm saying?
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The trial has been put five times, and
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it's like, wow, it's finally here. Like,
this is
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it.
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Like, it's really happening.
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You'll check on Omar tonight?
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Yeah, I will.
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Love you, Mom. Oh, my goodness.
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Like everything is real right now. I
love you guys. Love you.
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Bye.
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I'm a big, I'm sorry, and I'm a piece of
shit from then when I'm proven
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innocent.
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The success rate of the New York state
attorney is like 95%.
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Because people take freedom.
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If we have this unthinkable happen and
you work on it, I'm innocent!
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Now we have to talk about that too.
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You have all of us supporting you.
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You'll be innocent.
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We know, right?
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How are you? I'm good. How are you?
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I'm glad to see you.
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Sit down. Take a load off.
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What's our game plan?
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I think, honestly, for her, I think just
physically having us here is just huge,
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and there really isn't that much else we
can do.
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I know. I feel helpless, you know?
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Over the last year since...
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Jen's arrest, things have changed a lot
for her. This is a lot of pressure
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and it's the time where you rise
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to the occasion to support those around
you.
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I saw her right before she left and it
was the most serious and like heavy
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convo we've probably ever had.
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I mean, I need to ask you something
seriously. I'm being serious though. If
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worst thing happens and I'm feeling
guilty.
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Like, can you please check on my family
and make sure Coach is okay? Make sure
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Omar and Reesey and, like... Of course.
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Let them know how much I love them, how
proud I am every day. I just want to
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make sure they're okay. We are going to
be here for you and for your family. I'm
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scared, Heather. Okay, I'm scared.
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It will really kill me if I'm away from
my family.
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She's really scared, Jess.
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It's okay.
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They're here.
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Hi. Hi.
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Hi. How you doing?
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I'm happy to see you guys.
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I'm so happy to be here.
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Hi, Coach.
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Hi.
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Hi, how are you?
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It's so good to see you. It's so good to
see you, baby.
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Good to see you.
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Man, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Go ahead, baby. You can sit here. Yeah,
we can. The troops have arrived.
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Yeah.
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So many people.
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have said, oh, I'm going to be there for
you, Jen.
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But, like, who's actually here? Who got
on a plane?
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Who is here to show support and love?
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It's Heather and Meredith.
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It's like having the Calvary show up for
you to help you fight, where it's
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giving me the support I need to help me
prepare for what's ahead.
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Where's your husband? That's my man.
He's working.
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Is he? He's here, though.
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Yeah? He's got to get some work done.
All right, all right.
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You know, we're just a few days from
trial.
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How are the boys doing?
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We've had such painful conversations.
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I've had them with both of my sons.
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If the absolute unthinkable happened and
you were found guilty, now we have to
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be able to talk about that too.
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00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:16,920
We're going to be fine. We want.
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a certain outcome, but regardless, God
is with us.
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I know that we'll be fine.
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What do you have going on today?
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What's up today? We have to go to
Priya's office just to touch base, go
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strategy, and meet before the pretrial
hearing.
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00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,000
Okay, well, why don't we meet up and
figure out a plan? Yeah. Thank you.
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oh, we're thinking.
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Of course. I love you so much. We're
meeting. I love you.
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Look at the pretty hydrangeas. That's
beautiful.
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Hello. The reservation for three marks.
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I got us right down here. You have the
best table.
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Gorgeous. Can I get a mojito but not
frozen?
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Sure.
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I'll try that.
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I'll do the stress reliever.
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Couldn't wait to have lunch with Coach
Shaw.
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I feel bad that it didn't work out.
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You guys showed up for Jen. I want to
show up for Coach, and I was looking
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forward to going out with him and
talking to him.
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I mean, I know it's all about Jen, as it
should be, but how's he doing?
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He is having a tough time. It is a lot.
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He's stressed out.
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And he's a husband and, like, an
attorney.
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You know, he's, like, business and
emotional support, you know?
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Yeah. You see him with glasses and that
laptop.
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He's reading everything.
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They got the witness list and saw all
the former people in their lives that
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going to be testifying.
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And they also got little excerpts of
what they're going to say.
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And he said it was really hard to hear
and really hard to read all these things
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about Jen.
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It's incomprehensible.
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That's why I think there's the strain,
yeah.
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This thing's coming like a freight train
right now.
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She's either going to be free and
innocent, or the reality, God forbid,
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found guilty.
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But her worst fear is that she'll not
only be guilty, but that she'll be
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sentenced to serve time in a facility
and be taken away from her family.
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How many defendants were there? There
were quite a few. But they all pled
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guilty, right?
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Nobody is disputing that the scheme
happened.
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00:31:56,910 --> 00:32:01,030
Yeah. The question stems from Jen's
involvement.
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Did she have knowledge of what was going
on? There's no truth.
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So there you go. It's not a small, like,
thing where you could be facing, you
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know, six months in prison. This is a
major, major trial.
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Had either of you ever asked Jen, is she
guilty of any of these
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charges?
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Had either of you ever asked Jen, is she
guilty of any
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of these charges?
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When your friend looks you in the eyes
and says, I am innocent of this, you
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then I will support you in whatever task
you're going to take.
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God forbid she is guilty.
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Are you still a ride or die friend?
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If, in fact, Jen is proclaiming her
innocence when she's really guilty and
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taking accountability to the victims of
what she did.
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That's a really big problem for me.
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When all is said and done and Jen can
talk freely about this, I would love to
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sit down and understand what went on.
But I don't want to know while there is
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open trial pending.
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All that's going to do is put me in a
position where I could end up being
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questioned. I have no interest in that.
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You just, you believe the people you
love. I mean, take a moment right now
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like, look around and see how beautiful
it is and how peaceful. And then
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consider the circumstances that we're
here under.
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00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:12,730
And it's heartbreaking.
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00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Here's some snacks.
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00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Oh, we have Sour Patch Kids.
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I see you're feeling better.
471
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,100
I don't like how you handled this. I
know. It's because I, like, have lost my
472
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:47,300
hostess skills. I'm sorry.
473
00:34:48,659 --> 00:34:50,659
Tell us about the day. What happened?
474
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:55,840
The hardest part for me this week has
been somebody that I trusted, that I
475
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,800
sure that he didn't lose his job five
times at the company we worked for, made
476
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,140
sure that his kids... were put through
school, made sure he had food on his
477
00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:11,200
table. What's been the hardest for me
this week is to learn that that person
478
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,200
turned on me.
479
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:15,520
And now I just read all the shit that he
said.
480
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:25,740
And you know what? He can play the, oh,
481
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,160
I'm little Stuart Smith. No, bitch,
you're an evil mother.
482
00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:34,310
and you played me. I would not be in
this thing at all if it wasn't for
483
00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:38,530
Stuart played me.
484
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:42,550
I feed you while you work. While you
make me money, I feed you.
485
00:35:42,990 --> 00:35:45,330
Or adding more people, and I just try to
get second pass out.
486
00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:48,190
It's good. It's a good day. Okay, make
money, eat your banana.
487
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:52,910
You see the progress over like the last
year and a half where Stuart's like, Jen
488
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:54,310
didn't know anything. Jen didn't know
anything.
489
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:56,490
Jen's not involved in this. Nope, she's
not.
490
00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:59,980
Then all of a sudden, He pleads guilty.
491
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,940
And so for me to finally see all this
information and be like, oh, okay.
492
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,240
This is what was going on behind my
back.
493
00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:16,560
Why do you think he's doing it? Just to
get a last sentence?
494
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,240
Yeah.
495
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,800
What she's telling us, I can hardly
believe.
496
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:33,810
How is Stuart, the guy that chased her
snacks and ordered her waxing
497
00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:39,350
appointments and, you know, bought her
tampons, how is he also running the
498
00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:41,270
scheme and framing her and she doesn't
know?
499
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:53,450
It makes me think, like, it
500
00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:57,630
just makes me think, like, it's so hard
to, like, trust people.
501
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,340
We all know how this world works and
karma is out there.
502
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:15,780
And I always say that people who do bad
things suffer with their own being every
503
00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:16,780
day.
504
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,500
There's so much I wish I could say to
the public.
505
00:37:25,860 --> 00:37:28,380
I love you so much. I love you.
506
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,600
i'm tired i'm i'm tired i'm really tired
and uh three amigos
507
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:44,640
are you ready to tell us the real story
now
508
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,460
Coming up, this is a theory.
509
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:12,440
I think that Coates discovered what Jen
was doing, and then with all the witness
510
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,180
statements, there was something that
they could not get out of.
511
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:17,609
Hey, how are you?
512
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:19,030
Can I get a table for two?
513
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:21,030
Thank you.
514
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:30,470
Hey. Hey.
515
00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:31,890
How's it going?
516
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:35,550
Not. Not.
517
00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:41,190
Not. Did you just get back from New
York? Just barely got back. When?
518
00:39:41,570 --> 00:39:42,570
Like.
519
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,740
Not last night, but the night before.
Oh, you're kidding.
520
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,058
Hi. Hi.
521
00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:49,220
I'd love to take your order. I would
love an ice water.
522
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,280
Let's get some burrata, the crab cakes,
and then let's do two Vita cocktails.
523
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:54,279
Thank you.
524
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,000
I have so many questions.
525
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,038
Are you OK?
526
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,960
Yeah, I'm just, I mean, are you OK?
527
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,560
It feels so surreal.
528
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:08,220
Yesterday, I felt like the gamma. I was
angry. I was sad, confused.
529
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:11,660
I'm like, wow, this is who she is.
530
00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:15,090
This is a bad, awful thing she's done.
531
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:16,750
Thank you.
532
00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:20,570
I am overwhelmed with grief.
533
00:40:22,090 --> 00:40:28,470
Grief that we are in this situation,
that there's victims, that our friend is
534
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:32,150
going away for a decade, and she has a
16 -year -old.
535
00:40:32,890 --> 00:40:36,950
That made me fall my eyes out yesterday.
All I could think about was her in the
536
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:40,510
van saying, I'm not going to see you
repeat it, baby.
537
00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:49,170
And I feel for you. I feel it for you.
This is my life.
538
00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:52,010
This is my life. This is my kids.
539
00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:53,810
This is my kids.
540
00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:56,410
Like, I mean, Omar is 16.
541
00:41:01,510 --> 00:41:02,510
Ugh.
542
00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:06,890
When you read what she said, what did
you feel?
543
00:41:20,140 --> 00:41:25,160
What she pled guilty to is so bad.
544
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,380
And the fact that she's taken it this
far and gone for this long and
545
00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:35,360
her innocence and now, I can only think
she did it and she thought she was going
546
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,620
to get away with it. And then when she
realized she didn't get away with it,
547
00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:39,620
story changed.
548
00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:45,540
I didn't want to believe that Jen was
capable of doing any of that.
549
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,180
It was the last thing I expected for her
to plead guilty.
550
00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:51,790
What made her decide not to fight?
551
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:53,670
This is a theory.
552
00:41:54,510 --> 00:42:01,390
I think that Coach discovered what Jen
was doing and that it was impossible
553
00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:02,770
to explain away.
554
00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:07,370
And then in that 3 ,500 with all the
witness statements and all the
555
00:42:07,410 --> 00:42:12,930
there was something that they could not
get out of. And it was a smoking gun
556
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:15,490
that said, okay, the gig is up.
557
00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:18,670
You have to walk in there. You have to
say you did these things. And you have
558
00:42:18,670 --> 00:42:21,170
go to prison for a decade.
559
00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:27,050
And I'll tell you right now, my husband
knew about it, and my husband was
560
00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:30,170
involved. And he said, there you go,
sis.
561
00:42:30,490 --> 00:42:31,750
I'll take care of the boys.
562
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:33,970
I'll see you in 15 years.
563
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:40,070
That, to me, is a whole other tragedy
beyond.
564
00:42:41,230 --> 00:42:42,450
I think she did it.
565
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:46,570
I think she did it, and I think it is.
She's choking on the words, and she
566
00:42:46,570 --> 00:42:50,570
doesn't want to say it. It's too big,
and the penalties are too big.
567
00:42:55,330 --> 00:42:56,330
It's a lot.
568
00:42:58,130 --> 00:42:59,130
It's a lot.
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