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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,349 --> 00:00:03,393 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:03,394 --> 00:00:06,484 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. 3 00:00:06,745 --> 00:00:08,617 The police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:09,096 --> 00:00:11,794 and the Crown Prosecutors, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:12,142 --> 00:00:13,143 These are their stories. 6 00:00:20,411 --> 00:00:21,760 Those were his exact words. 7 00:00:23,806 --> 00:00:24,893 I thought what am I doing with someone who objectifies people to the point 8 00:00:24,894 --> 00:00:26,373 where they're just numbers? 9 00:00:26,374 --> 00:00:28,811 Besides which I'm an eight and a half. Ask anyone. 10 00:00:29,072 --> 00:00:31,987 Or maybe an eight when I had the fro, but I'll never make that mistake again. 11 00:00:31,988 --> 00:00:34,033 - What and he thinks he's a nine? - I know. 12 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:35,730 With those chicken legs. 13 00:00:35,731 --> 00:00:37,559 You know, from now on I'm just going to concentrate on me. 14 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:40,605 I need to take some time out to think about what I really want. 15 00:00:41,563 --> 00:00:43,478 Good for you. Okay, ciao, bella. 16 00:00:43,913 --> 00:00:45,306 - See you later. - See you later babes. 17 00:00:53,662 --> 00:00:56,099 Alright, hungry people, come and get it. 18 00:01:11,158 --> 00:01:13,073 Three dead and one serious head injury. 19 00:01:13,421 --> 00:01:16,640 Joanne Ellis, one of the customers, she's in a pretty bad way. 20 00:01:16,641 --> 00:01:17,773 Right, okay. 21 00:01:19,383 --> 00:01:22,082 - What's this? Age before beauty? - Something like that. 22 00:01:31,265 --> 00:01:33,789 - Joy. - Take it you're here for the tour. 23 00:01:35,225 --> 00:01:37,706 Kelly Scott. One of the sales assistants. 24 00:01:38,228 --> 00:01:39,664 Only started yesterday. 25 00:01:41,449 --> 00:01:46,193 And this one's a customer. Driving license ID's her as Linda Bowers. 26 00:01:46,584 --> 00:01:48,717 Works in a cake shop nearby. 27 00:01:49,718 --> 00:01:53,678 That's the owner Steven Marx. Been trading just under a year. 28 00:01:54,244 --> 00:01:56,202 Who found them then? 29 00:01:56,203 --> 00:02:00,120 The other sales assistant, Paul Dean. He came back after his lunch break. 30 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:01,817 And got the fright of his life. 31 00:02:03,471 --> 00:02:06,081 So, what is this, some sort of glorified charity shop or what? 32 00:02:06,082 --> 00:02:09,520 Vintage designer apparently. Not your average tat. 33 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:11,479 Blimey, I'll say. Look at that. 34 00:02:12,654 --> 00:02:13,611 Two hundred quid. 35 00:02:14,743 --> 00:02:16,396 I should flog some of me old threads. 36 00:02:16,397 --> 00:02:19,400 You're looking for a masked man. May answer to the name of Zorro. 37 00:02:19,661 --> 00:02:23,229 - A sword? - You've got some really deep stab wounds. 38 00:02:23,230 --> 00:02:26,015 Not to mention a lot of wild slashing and gashing. 39 00:02:26,537 --> 00:02:29,366 Shame the cameras are dummies, must've been quite a show. 40 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:33,892 So, we're looking for a homicidal maniac wielding a sword in a public place. 41 00:02:35,067 --> 00:02:36,068 What a nightmare. 42 00:03:26,423 --> 00:03:27,816 I was gone to meet a friend. 43 00:03:29,034 --> 00:03:32,255 I was only gone thirty minutes, forty minutes max. 44 00:03:33,778 --> 00:03:37,781 Has your-- Has your boss been having any problems with anyone lately? 45 00:03:37,782 --> 00:03:41,221 Steven? Nah. I don't think so. 46 00:03:41,873 --> 00:03:43,831 I mean we had this couple in this morning but... 47 00:03:43,832 --> 00:03:45,877 - What couple? - Italian. 48 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,792 I thought they were tourists. 49 00:03:49,359 --> 00:03:50,969 The bloke got me unchaining the leather jackets for him. 50 00:03:53,058 --> 00:03:56,410 Steven caught the girl putting stuff in her bag. Started shouting in Italian. 51 00:03:56,671 --> 00:03:57,759 And then what happened? 52 00:03:59,413 --> 00:04:01,241 Steven said he was gonna call the cops and they legged it. 53 00:04:02,764 --> 00:04:05,767 Okay, have you got a description for us? 54 00:04:08,248 --> 00:04:09,118 Yeah... 55 00:04:10,772 --> 00:04:13,427 She was a sort of a young Nancy Del Ollio. 56 00:04:14,602 --> 00:04:16,386 He was a toned-down Mika. 57 00:04:17,387 --> 00:04:19,824 I don't get it. Why would someone do this? 58 00:04:21,652 --> 00:04:24,699 I don't know, son. I really don't. 59 00:04:25,047 --> 00:04:27,701 The DI's called a press conference in half an hour asking for anyone 60 00:04:27,702 --> 00:04:29,746 who was in the area to come forward. 61 00:04:29,747 --> 00:04:32,141 Oh well, that's handy just a couple of thousand tourists and shoppers then. 62 00:04:32,359 --> 00:04:34,752 - So how come we've got no witnesses? - Precisely. 63 00:04:35,013 --> 00:04:37,537 I mean whoever it was has got to have been covered in blood 64 00:04:37,538 --> 00:04:40,280 not to mention they were carrying a bloody great sword. 65 00:04:40,497 --> 00:04:44,631 Matt, this city is full of people walking around with blinkers on nowadays. 66 00:04:44,632 --> 00:04:47,851 Covent Garden is also full of people standing around in gold paint, 67 00:04:47,852 --> 00:04:51,202 fire eating or juggling. So, he might not have stood out that much. 68 00:04:51,203 --> 00:04:52,727 And he's still out there somewhere. 69 00:04:53,075 --> 00:04:55,207 - Which is the really scary part. - Devlin. 70 00:04:56,644 --> 00:04:57,558 Ange, you're a star. 71 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:03,651 Gianni Patrone and Lia Rossi. 72 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:08,090 Picked up outside Selfridges with around six grand's worth of designer clothing. 73 00:05:08,656 --> 00:05:12,355 - And we're sure these are the same two? - Your witness ID'd them. 74 00:05:12,703 --> 00:05:15,445 Apparently, Miss Rossi's dress is one she stole earlier. 75 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:19,796 But I'm not getting homicidal maniac that's for sure. 76 00:05:19,797 --> 00:05:22,713 Me neither, but there's just a chance they saw something. 77 00:05:23,671 --> 00:05:26,238 Though up to now they've not been very cooperative. 78 00:05:26,543 --> 00:05:28,676 We'll let's get in there, give them some encouragement. 79 00:05:29,416 --> 00:05:30,591 Whatever it takes. 80 00:05:32,723 --> 00:05:35,246 Commissioner Callaghan wants hourly updates and 81 00:05:35,247 --> 00:05:38,424 once the media frenzy starts, our job's gonna get even harder. 82 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:41,297 So, anything you can get out of these two, anything at all. 83 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:43,952 Yeah, we'll talk to them. Do we need an interpreter? 84 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,084 I doubt it. They're from Enfield. 85 00:05:47,129 --> 00:05:51,480 I'm telling you, I didn't see anything and I didn't hear anything. 86 00:05:51,481 --> 00:05:53,265 But you admit you were in the shop, 87 00:05:53,962 --> 00:05:56,833 - and you threatened Steven Marx. - Threatened him? Shut up. 88 00:05:56,834 --> 00:05:58,923 And less than two hours later he was dead. 89 00:05:59,533 --> 00:06:02,578 Maybe you went back there. You thought that he could identify you 90 00:06:02,579 --> 00:06:05,930 - from the CCTV tapes. - Tapes? What tapes? 91 00:06:06,931 --> 00:06:10,151 Are you new? The cameras aren't even real. 92 00:06:10,152 --> 00:06:11,153 Three people, 93 00:06:12,589 --> 00:06:14,242 three people Gianni. Left lying in their own blood. 94 00:06:14,243 --> 00:06:16,200 One girl's head was nearly severed from her body. 95 00:06:16,201 --> 00:06:17,680 Alright, look, I know okay? 96 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:20,379 Look, I told you we had nothing to do with that. 97 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:23,687 You know if we'd been there half an hour later that could've been us. 98 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:27,474 - You any idea what that feels like? - It must be terrifying. 99 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:31,433 So, I'm asking you again, where did you go after you left the shop? 100 00:06:31,434 --> 00:06:34,088 I told you, I don't remember exactly. 101 00:06:34,089 --> 00:06:35,916 Well, we know you ended up in Oxford Street. 102 00:06:35,917 --> 00:06:37,265 Did you go straight there? 103 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:38,267 I'm not sure. 104 00:06:40,138 --> 00:06:41,965 Look, I don't care if you turned over half the shops in Covent Garden. 105 00:06:41,966 --> 00:06:43,446 I just want to know where you went. 106 00:06:46,014 --> 00:06:50,540 Lia, what about Gianni? Was he with you all the time? 107 00:06:51,236 --> 00:06:53,151 Gianni's the last person you should be harassing. 108 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:55,197 Oh, who would you suggest? 109 00:06:55,545 --> 00:06:57,634 How about the crack-head in the alley for a start? 110 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:59,941 What crack-head in the alley? 111 00:07:00,898 --> 00:07:04,815 Total nutter, kept banging his head against the wall. 112 00:07:05,512 --> 00:07:07,252 So, what do we think? 113 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,038 About the convenient crack-head? 114 00:07:10,386 --> 00:07:12,475 It's about the only bit of the story they agree on. 115 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:16,652 Let's get on to all the drop-in's and shelters with a description. 116 00:07:16,653 --> 00:07:20,309 And if these two can't pick him out of WADS, then get them to do an e-fit. 117 00:07:20,614 --> 00:07:24,313 And keep them apart, yeah? Strictly no conferring. 118 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:33,756 Well, they're not exactly twins but they could be related. 119 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:36,019 They could also be half the homeless guys in London. 120 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:37,457 Can forensics narrow it down? 121 00:07:39,241 --> 00:07:42,070 Ah, apparently not, Guv. The prints were just a mass of smudges, 122 00:07:42,331 --> 00:07:46,553 but they have come up with a profile of the weapon. 123 00:07:47,162 --> 00:07:51,165 A single edge blade. Probably military. Comparisons were run, 124 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:55,039 the closest comparison they do have is a US army issue bayonet. 125 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:57,477 Circa nineteen fifty. 126 00:07:58,347 --> 00:08:00,131 One sec. Chandler. 127 00:08:01,785 --> 00:08:03,047 Oh great, thank you. 128 00:08:04,614 --> 00:08:06,790 Joanne Ellis has regained consciousness. 129 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:16,887 - Just give her some time. - Okay. 130 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:21,457 Blade ripped her scalp and dug a trench in her skull. 131 00:08:23,546 --> 00:08:28,246 Joanne, when the woman screamed, where were you? 132 00:08:29,987 --> 00:08:33,164 T-- T-- Trying on a dress. 133 00:08:36,124 --> 00:08:39,083 There was a woman was on the floor... 134 00:08:42,217 --> 00:08:43,523 a man hit me. 135 00:08:44,654 --> 00:08:46,526 The man, did you see his face? 136 00:08:50,921 --> 00:08:54,446 Joanne, I'm sorry sweetheart. I'm going to... 137 00:08:55,404 --> 00:08:57,362 going to show you a picture, okay? 138 00:08:59,321 --> 00:09:02,498 If it looks like the man, you just let us know, okay? 139 00:09:06,633 --> 00:09:07,547 Yes. 140 00:09:10,462 --> 00:09:12,246 - Alright? - Anything? 141 00:09:12,247 --> 00:09:15,075 Nah, more of the same. What's the word from uniform? 142 00:09:15,076 --> 00:09:16,598 Poof! 143 00:09:16,599 --> 00:09:18,949 Still going door to door, nothing definite to report. 144 00:09:19,428 --> 00:09:21,778 Just seems round here the homeless really are invisible. 145 00:09:22,083 --> 00:09:24,955 So, what do you reckon? Keep on going and meet up in organic beauty? 146 00:09:26,174 --> 00:09:27,175 If we must. 147 00:09:30,961 --> 00:09:31,962 You gonna buy that? 148 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:36,184 I wouldn't know whether to wear it or eat it, look. 149 00:09:36,532 --> 00:09:37,751 Um, can I help? 150 00:09:39,274 --> 00:09:42,059 Yes, actually you can. We're looking... 151 00:09:42,669 --> 00:09:47,237 for some information regarding the fatal incident in Brewers Alley. 152 00:09:47,238 --> 00:09:49,457 It said in the papers it was completely random, 153 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,807 that he could strike again at any time. Is that true? 154 00:09:51,808 --> 00:09:55,420 Well, we're advising everyone to be cautious, yeah. 155 00:09:55,899 --> 00:09:59,815 I'm sorry do you, would you happen to recognize this man? 156 00:09:59,816 --> 00:10:02,992 He, you might have seen him wandering around the area yesterday. 157 00:10:02,993 --> 00:10:05,691 No, not yesterday. But the day before. 158 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:07,693 He was standing right outside the door there. 159 00:10:07,694 --> 00:10:09,303 Just kept looking in. 160 00:10:09,304 --> 00:10:11,261 I thought he might have been watching one of my customers. 161 00:10:11,262 --> 00:10:13,002 What, any customer in particular? 162 00:10:13,003 --> 00:10:14,351 Ahem. 163 00:10:14,352 --> 00:10:17,051 Pretty girl. Blonde. She comes in quite a lot. 164 00:10:17,355 --> 00:10:20,184 Actually, she signed up for my mailing list. 165 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,534 I teach yoga a couple of nights a week. 166 00:10:23,971 --> 00:10:25,537 Yep, Linda Bowers. 167 00:10:29,367 --> 00:10:31,674 - Was she one of them? - I'm afraid so yeah. 168 00:10:32,109 --> 00:10:33,415 Oh, poor girl. 169 00:10:35,069 --> 00:10:38,288 - So it wasn't random. - Doesn't look like it. 170 00:10:38,289 --> 00:10:40,552 No, our mystery man was after Linda Bowers. 171 00:10:43,251 --> 00:10:46,819 Yeah, that's the guy. The girl called us round ten-ish. 172 00:10:46,820 --> 00:10:49,083 Said some weirdo had followed her home from work. 173 00:10:49,692 --> 00:10:51,520 What? From Neal Street to Southwark? 174 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:55,567 Yeah. By the time we got there he was gone, 175 00:10:56,177 --> 00:10:59,135 we did a drive-by a couple of hours later and there's chummy 176 00:10:59,136 --> 00:11:01,269 standing across the street walking in circles. 177 00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:04,185 - Any ID? - Afraid not. 178 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,928 No wallet, no driving license and he didn't wanna give us his name. 179 00:11:08,232 --> 00:11:09,364 You didn't bring him in? 180 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:11,671 Wasn't like we could charge him with anything. 181 00:11:12,019 --> 00:11:14,369 - So, we decided to relocate him. - Sorry? 182 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:18,112 You know, like what they do with bears. 183 00:11:18,765 --> 00:11:20,940 Drove him back across the river and dumped him. 184 00:11:20,941 --> 00:11:22,899 Thought least that way he couldn't do any harm. 185 00:11:24,901 --> 00:11:26,815 Bears? 186 00:11:26,816 --> 00:11:29,383 Are you telling me he was picked up for harassing one of the victims, 187 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:31,646 and we still have no idea who he is? 188 00:11:31,647 --> 00:11:35,085 It's like he doesn't exist, no name, no fixed abode, no nothing. 189 00:11:35,651 --> 00:11:39,349 You do know that Callaghan's pressuring me to release the e-fit to the media. 190 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:41,788 Well, you know what that might not be such a bad idea. 191 00:11:42,092 --> 00:11:45,008 How many homeless guys are there in woolly hats out there? 192 00:11:45,356 --> 00:11:47,662 We'd be buried alive under reported sightings. 193 00:11:47,663 --> 00:11:50,710 Not to mention the chances of the wrong bloke getting lynched. 194 00:11:51,406 --> 00:11:54,626 Hello Ronnie, sorry, are we keeping you from your afternoon tea? 195 00:11:55,584 --> 00:11:59,239 No not at all sorry, Guv. I was thinking about the bayonet right. 196 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,110 I mean he didn't have it on him, did he? 197 00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:03,460 When Nit and Wit took him for his ride across the river, so... 198 00:12:03,461 --> 00:12:05,201 he must've got hold of it last week, right? 199 00:12:05,202 --> 00:12:07,464 - It's not the kind of thing you find in a skip either. - Nah. 200 00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:09,162 No reports of any bayonets 201 00:12:09,163 --> 00:12:11,165 being stolen in the Greater London area. 202 00:12:11,513 --> 00:12:14,907 What if we went to the dealers direct? See if any of them been carrying any 203 00:12:14,908 --> 00:12:17,300 "unofficial" twentieth century items and let it go. 204 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:20,609 Yeah, turns out Matty's got a secret stash of antique muskets. 205 00:12:21,088 --> 00:12:22,654 D'you know, I can see that. 206 00:12:23,786 --> 00:12:27,224 Yeah that sounds right, compatible with an M1 rifle, yeah? 207 00:12:27,703 --> 00:12:31,968 This was last week? Okay, thanks, you've been very helpful. 208 00:12:33,491 --> 00:12:36,146 Bloke comes up to Covent Garden first Monday of the month. 209 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:41,411 Says he had a mint-condition M1 bayonet nicked from his stall 210 00:12:41,412 --> 00:12:43,197 by some "homeless wanker". 211 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:45,981 Our "homeless wanker"? 212 00:12:45,982 --> 00:12:48,724 Right down to his woolly hat. Tried to buy it with some vouchers. 213 00:12:48,942 --> 00:12:51,466 And when that didn't work, he smashed a case and nicked it. 214 00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:52,641 Vouchers? 215 00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:55,774 Yeah, he reckons it was for some night shelter. 216 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,168 He had a whole stack of them. Seemed to think it was a check book. 217 00:13:00,257 --> 00:13:02,303 That very much resembles John. 218 00:13:03,521 --> 00:13:05,827 And John wouldn't happen to have a last name, would he? 219 00:13:05,828 --> 00:13:09,789 We only know him as John. Though I believe some of the regulars call him Zero. 220 00:13:10,267 --> 00:13:12,269 As in Bravo Two Zero. 221 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:14,576 From Zorro to Zero. 222 00:13:15,664 --> 00:13:17,404 Ah, do you mean he's ex-military? 223 00:13:17,405 --> 00:13:20,451 No, no, John's more a one-man army. 224 00:13:20,843 --> 00:13:24,238 But he likes to wear the clothes, the boots, all that sort of thing. 225 00:13:24,499 --> 00:13:26,806 I'm sorry. What is this about? 226 00:13:27,719 --> 00:13:32,289 Well. unfortunately John is a suspect in a murder investigation. 227 00:13:33,421 --> 00:13:35,945 John? That can't be right. 228 00:13:36,424 --> 00:13:37,860 Well, has he been in recently? 229 00:13:39,862 --> 00:13:42,473 No, not for a few days. The last time was Thursday, I think, for breakfast. 230 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,084 And do you know where he goes when he's not here? 231 00:13:45,085 --> 00:13:46,390 No. I'm sorry. I don-- 232 00:13:46,826 --> 00:13:49,175 But are you certain this is the person you want? 233 00:13:49,176 --> 00:13:50,830 Well, it's starting to look that way. 234 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:53,049 I'm very surprised by this. 235 00:13:53,963 --> 00:13:56,531 He doesn't use drugs and he's never violent. 236 00:13:57,575 --> 00:13:59,795 Sometimes he's a little confused perhaps, 237 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,669 but he struck me as an educated sort of man. 238 00:14:05,322 --> 00:14:09,152 Not dangerous in anyway. Excuse me. 239 00:14:10,762 --> 00:14:11,851 Thank you, Father. 240 00:14:14,331 --> 00:14:17,246 So, sometimes he's a bit confused. 241 00:14:17,247 --> 00:14:19,423 Yeah, when he's not banging his head against a wall. 242 00:14:19,728 --> 00:14:21,730 If he ain't a crack-head he's a nutjob. 243 00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:27,431 Yeah, I know him. Usually wears army fatigues. Name's John Smith. 244 00:14:28,432 --> 00:14:30,652 - You're kidding? - That's the name he gave us. 245 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,089 Interesting guy. He recognized my tattoo. 246 00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:37,006 "Kushta" means truth in Aramaic. 247 00:14:37,702 --> 00:14:40,749 John always said it was the language of the common people. 248 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:43,491 - So, he was a regular, yeah? - He was. 249 00:14:44,013 --> 00:14:47,451 According to this he hasn't picked up his prescription in... 250 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:49,975 nearly three months. That's not good. 251 00:14:49,976 --> 00:14:52,847 - What's he on? - Risperidone and carbamazepine. 252 00:14:52,848 --> 00:14:54,110 It's for schizophrenia. 253 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:57,808 They tried him on the weekly injections, but he just kept missing the appointments. 254 00:14:57,809 --> 00:14:59,420 What happens when he doesn't take them? 255 00:14:59,855 --> 00:15:04,032 Delusions, psychosis, possibly full-blown mania. 256 00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:07,297 Schizophrenics aren't necessarily violent though, are they? 257 00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:10,213 There's always the exception that proves the rule. 258 00:15:10,997 --> 00:15:13,477 - Is John in trouble? - Afraid so. 259 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,524 Uh, do you have any idea where we might find him? 260 00:15:16,828 --> 00:15:19,569 Most of these guys register using the clinic address. 261 00:15:19,570 --> 00:15:22,268 So, how do they pick up a prescription without an ID? 262 00:15:22,269 --> 00:15:25,011 They have a badge with a temporary NHS number. 263 00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:27,273 Although John had his nicked a while back 264 00:15:27,274 --> 00:15:29,929 so he just uses his Westminster library card. 265 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,061 - He has a library card? - Yeah. 266 00:15:32,496 --> 00:15:35,282 A lot of them do. Some of them even read the books. 267 00:15:43,507 --> 00:15:45,857 He's been in Ancient History since we opened. Same as always. 268 00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:49,034 We thought trying to evacuate the building would arouse his suspicions. 269 00:15:49,035 --> 00:15:51,819 No, you were quite right. You've had no problems with him in the past? 270 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,690 No, none. He just comes to read. 271 00:15:53,691 --> 00:15:56,824 Right lads, get people out as quickly and quietly as you can, okay, 272 00:15:56,825 --> 00:15:58,131 whereabouts is he, please? 273 00:15:58,653 --> 00:16:00,916 - He's in the far corner. - Great, thank you. 274 00:16:40,086 --> 00:16:40,956 All right? 275 00:16:42,566 --> 00:16:44,003 Matt, he's coming your way! 276 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,010 Just take it easy John, take it easy mate. 277 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:53,924 - Get away, Barak! - Armed police, stop! 278 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:56,449 - Now, John listen, hang on John. - Drop the bayonet, stay where you are! 279 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:57,754 I can't hear you. I'm not listening. 280 00:16:57,755 --> 00:16:59,756 Drop the bayonet and stay where you are. 281 00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:01,671 - I can't hear you. I'm not listening. - Put it down, 282 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:04,327 someone's gonna get hurt. No, no, no... Put that-- 283 00:17:06,068 --> 00:17:10,116 John Smith, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Steven Marx, 284 00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:13,944 Kelly Scott and Linda Bowers and the attempted murder of Joanne Ellis. 285 00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:16,251 You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defense 286 00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:20,603 if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court 287 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:23,258 anything you do say may be used in evidence. 288 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:30,875 Well done son. 289 00:17:34,531 --> 00:17:36,707 - You limping? - No. 290 00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:42,583 I'm a captain in Jabin's army. I fought at Kishon river. 291 00:17:43,323 --> 00:17:46,021 - Okay? - Calm down. 292 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:49,024 It's quite a system. 293 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:53,681 They drive wireless HD to work and they're still hungry. 294 00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:06,563 Worst thing is after a while it almost starts making sense. 295 00:18:06,955 --> 00:18:08,390 Are we even sure about his name? 296 00:18:08,391 --> 00:18:10,219 We're running his prints through the system. 297 00:18:10,828 --> 00:18:11,742 Okay. 298 00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:16,182 So, let's set-up a video ID and get in the eye witness. 299 00:18:20,316 --> 00:18:21,187 No. 300 00:18:25,016 --> 00:18:26,017 That's him. 301 00:18:29,325 --> 00:18:31,674 Smith's solicitor wants him back on his drugs as soon as possible. 302 00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:33,850 Fine. But we charge him with murder first. 303 00:18:33,851 --> 00:18:35,678 So he's agreed to have a solicitor then? 304 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:38,726 - Well, as far as we can tell. - We've got a match on the prints. 305 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:41,336 So, why have we previously had the pleasure? 306 00:18:41,337 --> 00:18:42,686 John Patrick Smith. 307 00:18:43,383 --> 00:18:46,255 One arrest for stalking a woman sixteen months ago. 308 00:18:46,647 --> 00:18:50,171 The original charge was threats to kill, but the CPS reviewed the evidence 309 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:53,218 and amended it to Section two, simple harassment. 310 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:55,872 - Ay? - He got a twelve-month supervision order 311 00:18:55,873 --> 00:18:57,570 and paid two hundred quid in costs. 312 00:18:57,571 --> 00:19:00,268 Might as well give him a Mars bar and a pat on the head. 313 00:19:00,269 --> 00:19:02,837 So, what are the chances of nailing him this time then? 314 00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:11,366 Do I resign now or do I wait till this hits the papers? 315 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:14,021 According to the file, the original charge was way over the top. 316 00:19:14,022 --> 00:19:17,111 And the police didn't have the evidence to support a harassment fear of violence, 317 00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:18,418 let alone a threat to kill. 318 00:19:18,722 --> 00:19:21,202 And at that time, Smith had a job. 319 00:19:21,203 --> 00:19:22,725 Doing what for heaven's sake? 320 00:19:22,726 --> 00:19:25,206 Marking legal exams for undergraduate exam boards. 321 00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:26,948 God help us all. 322 00:19:29,037 --> 00:19:31,170 His defense never referred to his mental state and the prosecution missed it. 323 00:19:31,431 --> 00:19:32,736 My God James. 324 00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:35,695 The Home Secretary's hyperventilating as it is. 325 00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:39,394 If the press find out that we had this guy and then we let him go we may-- 326 00:19:39,395 --> 00:19:41,615 Smith's solicitor is withdrawing from the case. 327 00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:44,879 And so the madness begins. 328 00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:48,186 He informed me that he no longer requires my services. 329 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:49,535 So, who's representing him? 330 00:19:49,536 --> 00:19:50,841 John Patrick Smith. 331 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:54,104 MA from Oxford, Master of Laws from Cambridge 332 00:19:54,105 --> 00:19:57,805 not to mention his PHD. And he did mention it, several times. 333 00:19:58,066 --> 00:19:59,546 - You're not serious? - Oh, yes. 334 00:19:59,894 --> 00:20:02,505 The lunatic has officially taken over the asylum. 335 00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:06,248 And he knows his rights, as long as he's fit to stand trial, 336 00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:08,206 he's fit to represent himself. 337 00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:10,209 I've seen him. He's not fit for anything. 338 00:20:10,644 --> 00:20:12,949 If he represents himself this trial will be a farce. 339 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:15,953 Well, it's listed for mention so you might want to bring it up with the judge. 340 00:20:16,432 --> 00:20:17,651 Don't worry, I will. 341 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:22,830 Mr. Steel, it is usually the defense 342 00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:25,963 who raise the issue of mental competence. 343 00:20:26,268 --> 00:20:28,530 I know. But given the unusual circumstances. 344 00:20:28,531 --> 00:20:29,532 Very well. 345 00:20:31,578 --> 00:20:37,323 Mr. Smith, it says here that you have a history of schizo-affective disorder. 346 00:20:38,062 --> 00:20:39,412 That's correct, my Lord. 347 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:41,762 Since the age of twenty-three. 348 00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:45,548 I'm prone to manic depression... 349 00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:49,509 paranoid delusions and hallucinations. 350 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,251 Unless I'm taking my medication. 351 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:55,384 And are you currently taking your medication? 352 00:20:55,732 --> 00:20:57,473 Yes, my Lord. Ever since my arrest. 353 00:20:58,387 --> 00:21:02,696 And I understand you wish to represent yourself? 354 00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:04,524 Yes, my Lord. 355 00:21:06,526 --> 00:21:09,920 I have a first-class law degree from Oxford, as I believe, do you, my Lord. 356 00:21:10,747 --> 00:21:14,881 Also an LLM from Cambridge and a PhD in jurisprudence. 357 00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:18,363 Without proper counsel, Mr. Smith will be at a distinct disadvantage. 358 00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:21,104 There's also a good chance he could suffer another psychotic break, 359 00:21:21,105 --> 00:21:24,717 in which case, the trial would collapse. We'd be right back where we started. 360 00:21:24,718 --> 00:21:29,549 But, as Mr. Steel is aware, that's an irrelevance. 361 00:21:31,115 --> 00:21:34,944 Unless prosecution can establish incompetence at this precise moment, 362 00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:36,556 then the trial must go ahead. 363 00:21:37,687 --> 00:21:42,605 In which case, subject to medical confirmation 364 00:21:43,171 --> 00:21:46,174 of the defendant's fitness to stand trial, 365 00:21:46,783 --> 00:21:48,089 we shall proceed. 366 00:21:48,872 --> 00:21:50,309 One more thing, my Lord. 367 00:21:50,831 --> 00:21:54,399 As Mr. Steel pointed out, I will be at a disadvantage. 368 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,618 Perhaps to level the playing field 369 00:21:56,619 --> 00:21:58,926 I might conduct my defense from counsel's row. 370 00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:00,580 Mr. Steel? 371 00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:04,540 I don't think it's at all appropriate, My Lord. 372 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:07,456 The defendant is already in custody. 373 00:22:08,979 --> 00:22:09,980 I will allow it. 374 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:14,681 As you say, Mr. Steel, these are unusual circumstances. 375 00:22:16,073 --> 00:22:19,338 Two-hundred-page application to dismiss. 376 00:22:19,816 --> 00:22:22,428 I don't know if we should prosecute him, or offer him a job. 377 00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:26,606 I don't understand. Why's he not going for this insanity plea? 378 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:29,085 He thinks he can prove we've got the wrong man. 379 00:22:29,086 --> 00:22:31,131 Well, that's never gonna work. 380 00:22:31,132 --> 00:22:33,916 I wouldn't be so sure. He's challenging every piece of prosecution evidence. 381 00:22:33,917 --> 00:22:37,572 Well, Prentice won't be in a rush to dismiss against a homicidal schizophrenic. 382 00:22:37,573 --> 00:22:39,357 Yes, but he won't give you an inch either. 383 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,796 And he won't be swayed by public opinion, however vitriolic. 384 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,755 I'd be happier if you could only find something resembling a motive. 385 00:22:46,756 --> 00:22:48,670 Well, according to Joanne Ellis's statement, 386 00:22:48,671 --> 00:22:51,499 he didn't give any sign he even knew who Linda was. 387 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,588 Talk to her again. 388 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:56,765 And didn't Smith give a sister as his residential address? 389 00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:58,507 - Yeah. - I want to meet her. 390 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:02,990 Remember it's not just Smith in the dock over this one. 391 00:23:03,556 --> 00:23:05,471 - Radio? - TV. 392 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:07,951 Go easy on the make-up George. 393 00:23:12,913 --> 00:23:14,958 There was lots of screaming. 394 00:23:17,091 --> 00:23:18,614 There might have been words. 395 00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:23,619 Do you have any idea what those words could've been? 396 00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:27,797 Something like "Live forever", 397 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:31,410 maybe "Life Forever". 398 00:23:31,758 --> 00:23:34,978 What does it matter what he said? The man's a lunatic. 399 00:23:35,501 --> 00:23:38,417 If you'd heard him in court last week you might not be so sure. 400 00:23:40,157 --> 00:23:42,072 It said in the paper that he's got a law degree. 401 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:44,771 Yes, he has. 402 00:23:46,642 --> 00:23:49,209 That why he got let off the first time. Because he was one of your own. 403 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:52,168 Absolutely not. It was nothing like that. 404 00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:55,607 The-- the trouble was the prosecution just didn't know enough about him. 405 00:23:55,608 --> 00:23:57,826 They knew he was stalking a woman. 406 00:23:57,827 --> 00:24:00,830 Didn't that give them some clue that there was something wrong with him? 407 00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:06,967 Mr. Ellis, I can't imagine what you're going through. 408 00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:09,230 You and Joanne. 409 00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:14,104 I want you to know how sorry I am. 410 00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:17,456 And that makes it alright? As long as you're sorry? 411 00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:22,329 You lot had him and you let him go. And now my little girl-- 412 00:24:22,330 --> 00:24:23,331 Dad. 413 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,252 Yeah, well, we've got ourselves a lawyer too. 414 00:24:31,774 --> 00:24:33,123 Us and the other families. 415 00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:38,041 And he's advised us to take a civil action against the police and the CPS. 416 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:44,004 You let us down, Miss Phillips, and someone's going to pay. 417 00:24:47,398 --> 00:24:52,360 When I talked to my brother, last month. He didn't mention Linda Bowers. 418 00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:57,365 He called because he overheard someone plotting to kill our parents. 419 00:24:58,322 --> 00:25:00,716 Our parents died three years ago. 420 00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:05,112 The woman he injured heard him shout the words "Life Forever". 421 00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:09,246 He probably said, "The Wife of Heber". It's from the Old Testament. 422 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:14,163 She lured Sisera, an army captain, into her tent with food 423 00:25:14,164 --> 00:25:15,688 and then stabbed him through the temple. 424 00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:18,647 Does this have a particular relevance for your brother? 425 00:25:22,042 --> 00:25:25,045 Johnny went through a religious phase as a teenager. 426 00:25:25,872 --> 00:25:30,223 When he developed schizophrenia he accused his girlfriend 427 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:31,791 of putting needles in his brain. 428 00:25:32,966 --> 00:25:34,533 He called her the Wife of Heber. 429 00:25:35,142 --> 00:25:37,274 Was he ever violent towards his girlfriend? 430 00:25:38,624 --> 00:25:41,365 He tried to strangle her in his room at Oxford. 431 00:25:43,237 --> 00:25:46,240 The next day he was admitted to hospital for six months. 432 00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:48,285 So there's your motive. 433 00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:52,376 I only wanted to find out about his behavior. 434 00:25:52,681 --> 00:25:56,466 Oh really? Because last time Johnny was arrested, 435 00:25:56,467 --> 00:26:00,297 I kept trying to tell someone he needed to be in hospital. 436 00:26:01,385 --> 00:26:04,867 That he needed supervision and support to help him stay on his medication. 437 00:26:05,346 --> 00:26:08,958 But surely, given his history, there must've been some way to get him help. 438 00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:13,746 And what would you suggest? Have him locked up? 439 00:26:14,703 --> 00:26:17,227 Have him forcibly injected with anti-psychotics? 440 00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:21,318 Unfortunately, the mentally ill have rights too, Mr. Steel. 441 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:23,930 - I'm sorry. - It's just... 442 00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:27,890 for fifteen years I've known something like this was coming. 443 00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:31,067 And there was nothing I could do to stop it. 444 00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:33,286 This is not about money. 445 00:26:33,287 --> 00:26:35,593 I won't pretend that a trial like this isn't expensive, 446 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:38,030 of course it is, but at the end of the day you're faced 447 00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:40,815 with a choice of a public expenditure 448 00:26:40,816 --> 00:26:42,730 that is way out of control-- 449 00:26:42,731 --> 00:26:47,997 Oh, "At the end of the day" I sound like the Scotland Football Manager. 450 00:26:48,476 --> 00:26:51,174 Suit looked good though. What reaction from on high? 451 00:26:51,827 --> 00:26:55,004 I have been summoned for a "strategy discussion". 452 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:58,791 Good news is Smith's application to dismiss has been denied. 453 00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:01,489 He's pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 454 00:27:01,707 --> 00:27:03,709 He couldn't have done that from the start? 455 00:27:04,361 --> 00:27:08,452 Okay, let's get this over with then, accept the plea, establish the facts, 456 00:27:09,366 --> 00:27:13,632 then Prentice can issue a hospital order and put Smith back where he belongs. 457 00:27:13,936 --> 00:27:16,721 Without a criminal conviction, Smith can only be held 458 00:27:16,722 --> 00:27:19,072 as long as there's a mental health justification. 459 00:27:19,463 --> 00:27:22,552 Which means if he takes his medication, he could be out in a matter of weeks. 460 00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:25,468 Smith knows that George. Why else would he risk an insanity plea? 461 00:27:25,469 --> 00:27:28,211 Because he's insane? Okay, okay 462 00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:30,691 and you really think he belongs in prison? 463 00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:32,650 There has to be a trial, George. 464 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:35,174 You'll never get a murder verdict. Not now that he's going down this route. 465 00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:36,915 I'm going to talk to him. 466 00:27:36,916 --> 00:27:39,395 If I get him to plead manslaughter diminished responsibility, 467 00:27:39,396 --> 00:27:41,789 he'll get a definite sentence in a secure unit or hospital, 468 00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:43,617 and there'll be no chance of an early release 469 00:27:43,618 --> 00:27:45,445 just 'cause he's managed to take his pills. 470 00:27:45,446 --> 00:27:49,624 And if he won't change his plea? Look, why am I even asking? 471 00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:52,671 Fine, talk to him. 472 00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:04,030 I'd be interested to know what you thought of my application Mr. Steel. 473 00:28:04,987 --> 00:28:07,162 - I know of course it's a long shot-- - Mr. Smith, 474 00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:09,775 - I'm only here to discuss your plea. - Right, of course. 475 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:17,782 You know the one thing I regret about pleading insanity 476 00:28:17,783 --> 00:28:19,740 is that it means there won't be a full trial. 477 00:28:19,741 --> 00:28:25,834 I'd have enjoyed the chance to really flex my legal muscles. 478 00:28:30,621 --> 00:28:35,670 Three people are dead and a young girl has been left with horrific injuries. 479 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,499 That doesn't bother you? 480 00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:42,982 Well, obviously, I'm... I'm sorry for what happened but... 481 00:28:43,809 --> 00:28:47,987 you have to understand that wasn't me. I'm not that creature. 482 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:49,510 I have-- I've... 483 00:28:51,077 --> 00:28:53,688 I won't take the blame for something that he did. 484 00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:57,387 You honestly believe you should walk free? 485 00:28:58,214 --> 00:29:01,260 I don't think I should be punished for something I didn't do. 486 00:29:01,261 --> 00:29:07,396 And I can hardly be rehabilitated when I have no memory of committing a crime. 487 00:29:07,397 --> 00:29:10,965 Assuming of course that you, uh, subscribe to the view 488 00:29:10,966 --> 00:29:13,576 that prison is an opportunity for rehabilitation. 489 00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:16,363 I'm here because we're prepared to amend the indictment. 490 00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:20,496 We'll accept a plea of guilty to manslaughter 491 00:29:20,497 --> 00:29:23,456 - due to diminished responsibility. - Is that a joke? 492 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:26,502 You'll be looking at five to ten years in a secure unit or hospital. 493 00:29:26,503 --> 00:29:29,593 As opposed to the twenty-five you'd get in prison for murder. 494 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:31,595 They'd never send me to prison. 495 00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:39,386 I've got a dozen expert witnesses all of whom will confirm that I'm insane. 496 00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:42,997 I wouldn't necessarily assume a jury will find you not guilty John. 497 00:29:42,998 --> 00:29:45,478 You killed three people. Chances are they won't care 498 00:29:45,479 --> 00:29:48,438 why you did it. They'll just want to lock you up so you can't do it again. 499 00:29:49,178 --> 00:29:52,964 I feel that's an acceptable risk when weighed against my freedom. 500 00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:55,402 Freedom to do what exactly, John? 501 00:29:57,273 --> 00:29:59,798 Look at how you've been living. If you plead guilty... 502 00:30:00,233 --> 00:30:02,625 to manslaughter diminished responsibility, 503 00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:04,715 you'll go somewhere where you can get help. 504 00:30:05,586 --> 00:30:07,674 Do you know the kind of people who 505 00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:10,895 end up in mental institutions, Mr. Steel? 506 00:30:10,896 --> 00:30:12,811 I am not one of them. 507 00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,293 - I don't belong there. - You have an illness, John. 508 00:30:19,121 --> 00:30:21,776 Yes, but when I'm medicated I'm just like you. 509 00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:27,477 I think you find that frightening. 510 00:30:30,785 --> 00:30:34,005 Perhaps, you know how it feels. 511 00:30:34,006 --> 00:30:39,098 That urge to just let go and hell with the consequences. 512 00:30:39,663 --> 00:30:41,709 - There are always consequences. - Are there? 513 00:30:45,408 --> 00:30:50,544 I would have made a brilliant lawyer, Mr. Steel. I really would. 514 00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:54,983 And now I'll get to prove it. 515 00:31:02,121 --> 00:31:03,818 He's treating the whole thing like a game. 516 00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:07,299 Well, what do we do? We can't counter his plea by claiming he was sane. 517 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,388 According to the witnesses, he was climbing the walls. 518 00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:12,871 Yet now, there he is calmly debating the merits of the penal system. 519 00:31:13,393 --> 00:31:16,264 So, he's a different person when he's medicated. That's hardly news. 520 00:31:16,265 --> 00:31:18,223 It's practically the basis of his defense. 521 00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:19,225 Exactly. 522 00:31:20,791 --> 00:31:22,750 As long as he takes his pills, his mind works just fine. 523 00:31:23,229 --> 00:31:26,493 Which means when he decided to stop taking them, he knew what he was doing. 524 00:31:26,754 --> 00:31:28,929 Yeah, but it's not like he went out and got high though. 525 00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:30,583 That's his natural state. 526 00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:32,715 Well, I'm naturally bad-tempered it doesn't mean I can punch you 527 00:31:32,716 --> 00:31:35,066 whenever you annoy me. Which you're doing now by the way. 528 00:31:35,067 --> 00:31:37,764 I'd like to see you try. Anyway, you're talking 529 00:31:37,765 --> 00:31:40,985 about prosecuting for an omission. We wouldn't have a leg to stand on. 530 00:31:40,986 --> 00:31:44,032 No, I'm saying he knew what would happen, and he did it anyway. 531 00:31:46,382 --> 00:31:50,647 Have you ever been on antipsychotic drugs, Dr. Armitage? 532 00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:52,823 No. I haven't. 533 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:59,003 Well, I am using every ounce of energy that I have right now 534 00:31:59,004 --> 00:32:00,657 just trying to talk to you. 535 00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:05,444 It's like I'm pawing through a thick blanket. 536 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:09,928 I feel stiff and half a step behind everybody. 537 00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:15,498 I feel so tired, just trying to hold on to reality. 538 00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:20,590 I don't know, I think letting go is almost a relief. 539 00:32:21,809 --> 00:32:23,679 So, he knows what he's like without medication. 540 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,986 Yet, he willfully chose to stop taking it. 541 00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:27,727 I know where you're going with this, James. 542 00:32:27,728 --> 00:32:30,470 He created the circumstances that led to the murders. 543 00:32:31,036 --> 00:32:34,082 Letting go isn't just a relief for him, I think he actively enjoys it. 544 00:32:34,343 --> 00:32:36,955 You can't punish someone for having a medical condition. 545 00:32:37,172 --> 00:32:39,608 A-- According to Smith, as long as he's on his medication, 546 00:32:39,609 --> 00:32:42,611 - he's as sane as the next man. - Makes you worry about the next man. 547 00:32:42,612 --> 00:32:45,659 That's why the legal system can't deal with the mentally ill. 548 00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:49,488 - You only work with absolutes. - He slaughtered three people! 549 00:32:49,489 --> 00:32:52,665 Whilst in the grip of a terrifying and overwhelming delusion. 550 00:32:52,666 --> 00:32:55,277 You say he's shown no remorse. How can he? 551 00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:59,628 Convincing himself that "crazy John" is a totally separate entity 552 00:32:59,629 --> 00:33:02,981 - is the only way that he can cope. - He's playing the system, Roddy. 553 00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:07,158 He's an expert on legal insanity and he's using his condition 554 00:33:07,159 --> 00:33:09,203 - to get away with murder. - If he pleads guilty, 555 00:33:09,204 --> 00:33:12,598 his whole coping mechanism will crumble and where does he go from there? 556 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,298 No, the way I see it, the longer he's locked up, the safer for everyone. 557 00:33:17,082 --> 00:33:20,955 It sounds as if your expert witness may as well be working for the defense. 558 00:33:21,477 --> 00:33:22,522 I can work around it. 559 00:33:24,437 --> 00:33:26,352 The Home Secretary feels very strongly that we should take the plea. 560 00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:31,269 He thinks it'll be a PR disaster if Smith is found not guilty 561 00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:34,708 - after a long, high-profile trial. - And what did you say? 562 00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:37,666 I told him that it was entirely inappropriate for him 563 00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:40,888 to try to influence the prosecution of a high court case. 564 00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:43,063 Go, George. 565 00:33:43,064 --> 00:33:46,459 Well, I am indeed the man. But we are not operating in a vacuum here, James. 566 00:33:46,937 --> 00:33:49,591 I've got mental health charities banging down the door 567 00:33:49,592 --> 00:33:53,378 saying that the system fails to identify vulnerable defendants. 568 00:33:53,379 --> 00:33:56,250 And this lot, want to start... 569 00:33:56,251 --> 00:34:00,734 ...a campaign for a national register for the mentally ill. 570 00:34:01,213 --> 00:34:04,651 If Smith does win in court, then the fallout could be horrendous... 571 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,783 - in all directions. - He's not going to. 572 00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:10,700 He can play the victim all he likes. 573 00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:14,355 Even if a jury thinks that he was insane when he drew the bayonet, 574 00:34:14,356 --> 00:34:16,054 what about when he went out and stole it? 575 00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:18,098 Or when he decided to throw away his pills? 576 00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:19,840 He didn't just make one choice, George. 577 00:34:20,188 --> 00:34:23,235 A whole series of decisions led to those deaths. 578 00:34:24,279 --> 00:34:29,545 And if Joanne Ellis has to live with the consequences, then so should Smith. 579 00:34:35,203 --> 00:34:40,513 I saw the manager and another woman on the floor, bleeding. 580 00:34:43,037 --> 00:34:48,086 Then, I heard a shout and this man ran towards me. 581 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:52,655 Something hit my head. 582 00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:56,050 I don't remember anything else. 583 00:34:58,226 --> 00:35:02,491 Miss Ellis, can you describe the long-term effects of the head injury you sustained? 584 00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:10,195 I've lost the sight in my right eye. 585 00:35:12,806 --> 00:35:17,463 I have, limited muscle control on my left-hand side... 586 00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:20,857 particularly my left arm. 587 00:35:23,382 --> 00:35:25,079 I get very bad headaches, 588 00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:28,430 and I have problems with concentration and memory loss. 589 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:32,478 What did you do for a living before the incident? 590 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:36,264 I was a dancer with the Royal Ballet. 591 00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:42,836 And will you be able to continue in that career at some point? 592 00:35:45,795 --> 00:35:46,666 No. 593 00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:50,713 Thank you. No further questions. 594 00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:56,719 Miss Ellis, um. 595 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,289 I'm very sorry that you were injured. 596 00:36:03,073 --> 00:36:05,553 When you first saw me, I didn't look like this, did I? 597 00:36:05,554 --> 00:36:06,815 No. 598 00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,949 Do you remember what I used to look like? 599 00:36:09,254 --> 00:36:12,170 You were dirty, with longer hair. 600 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:13,823 You were disgusting. 601 00:36:15,651 --> 00:36:16,869 I looked like somebody who should have been in a mental hospital? 602 00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:18,305 Yes. 603 00:36:18,306 --> 00:36:20,264 - Like somebody who was clearly insane? - My Lord-- 604 00:36:20,265 --> 00:36:21,179 Yes! 605 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,616 In fact, you're pursuing a civil action, aren't you? 606 00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:30,275 Against the CPS. For allowing someone so unmistakably insane to walk free. 607 00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:31,580 Yes, I am. 608 00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:35,931 So, if you blame anyone, it's really the justice system 609 00:36:35,932 --> 00:36:38,499 - that failed to protect you? - Oh, My Lord please. 610 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,286 He's right. You let him do this. 611 00:36:42,678 --> 00:36:45,203 You could have stopped him, but you let him go. 612 00:36:45,551 --> 00:36:47,205 And look what he did to me. 613 00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:54,342 That will do, Mr. Smith. 614 00:36:57,302 --> 00:36:58,303 Miss Ellis, 615 00:37:00,174 --> 00:37:01,393 you may step down. 616 00:37:10,315 --> 00:37:13,753 Anti-psychotic drugs have powerful side-effects. 617 00:37:14,406 --> 00:37:17,235 It's the most common reason patients stop taking them. 618 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:20,541 So, in the case of the defendant, he didn't stop 619 00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:23,850 - because he thought he was cured? - I don't believe so. 620 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,809 So, he was aware of the consequences? 621 00:37:27,593 --> 00:37:30,290 He knows he's susceptible to paranoid delusions 622 00:37:30,291 --> 00:37:34,295 and that these delusions previously led him to try and strangle a girlfriend. 623 00:37:34,904 --> 00:37:38,167 And do they explain why he was following Linda Bowers, 624 00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:40,519 - and why he ultimately killed her? - Yes. 625 00:37:41,302 --> 00:37:43,172 He believed she was plotting to kill him 626 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,959 and that Joanne Ellis and the others were her accomplices. 627 00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:49,178 So, just to be entirely clear, 628 00:37:49,179 --> 00:37:53,095 at the moment when the defendant stopped taking his medication 629 00:37:53,096 --> 00:37:56,360 he knew that stopping would cause the return of these delusions 630 00:37:56,361 --> 00:38:00,190 - that had previously led to violence? - Yes, he did. 631 00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:02,367 Thank you, Dr. Armitage 632 00:38:05,892 --> 00:38:07,633 Dr. Armitage, um, 633 00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:13,508 you described the side effects of my medication... 634 00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:16,729 - as "powerful". - That's correct. 635 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,079 So, in your-- in your opinion... 636 00:38:20,863 --> 00:38:24,302 whilst experiencing these "powerful" side effects... 637 00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:29,654 would I have been able to accurately predict the likelihood 638 00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:32,179 of any future psychotic behavior? 639 00:38:33,789 --> 00:38:35,530 - No. - Thank you. 640 00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:38,619 And will he be able to predict it in the future? 641 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:40,230 - No. - Mr. Steel, 642 00:38:42,407 --> 00:38:46,541 you're not at liberty to fire questions at the witness whenever the mood takes you. 643 00:38:57,683 --> 00:38:59,379 That poor girl was your best bet 644 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,164 and Smith still got her to say that he wasn't to blame. 645 00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:05,733 But did you see how Smith reacted when Roddy talked about "next time"? 646 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,823 Okay, so he's realized he's trapped in a cycle of behavior. 647 00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:10,303 What good does that do us? 648 00:39:10,304 --> 00:39:12,479 For Smith to admit his guilt, he needs to confront 649 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,700 what he's done and accept that he might do it again. 650 00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:18,965 What we need is someone who's been through that cycle with him time after time. 651 00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:21,359 Patricia's not gonna help you put her brother away. 652 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:23,490 She knows him better than he knows himself. 653 00:39:23,491 --> 00:39:25,057 Yeah, but she's still on his side. 654 00:39:25,058 --> 00:39:26,842 Doesn't mean she's on his witness list. 655 00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:33,414 With a-- a manslaughter charge, he could still go to prison. 656 00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:39,246 If he did, he'd be in a secure unit under medical supervision. 657 00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:42,380 But unless he changes his plea... 658 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:46,209 he could be found guilty of murder. 659 00:39:46,471 --> 00:39:49,647 That won't happen. No, they can see that he's sick. 660 00:39:49,648 --> 00:39:52,999 If he's found not guilty, and is back on his medication... 661 00:39:54,304 --> 00:39:56,436 they won't legally be able to hold him. 662 00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:57,438 I don't believe this. 663 00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:02,355 I've spent nearly half my life, dreading what Johnny might do. 664 00:40:02,356 --> 00:40:05,837 And then this happened and now you're telling me it makes no difference? 665 00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:06,969 That nothing's changed? 666 00:40:07,883 --> 00:40:08,841 I'm sorry. 667 00:40:10,146 --> 00:40:11,539 I can't do this anymore. I'm sorry, I just can't. 668 00:40:11,931 --> 00:40:13,541 Then break the pattern. 669 00:40:13,889 --> 00:40:17,415 Make the jury understand how badly John needs long-term care. 670 00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:20,635 - You're asking me to betray my brother. - No. 671 00:40:22,681 --> 00:40:24,030 I'm asking you to save him. 672 00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:32,430 Miss Smith, is this the first time... 673 00:40:32,865 --> 00:40:35,128 your brother has stopped taking his medication? 674 00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:37,435 No. 675 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:42,614 Over the past, fifteen years, it's happened more than a dozen times. 676 00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:44,920 How did you deal with this? 677 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:48,750 Well, I begged him to keep taking his pills. 678 00:40:49,272 --> 00:40:53,233 I warned him that he might, um, harm himself... 679 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:57,193 or other people if he stopped. 680 00:40:57,585 --> 00:41:02,851 But, um, he just-- he just said that other people would just have to stay out of his way. 681 00:41:03,156 --> 00:41:06,072 And did he ever offer an explanation for his behavior? 682 00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:07,377 Yes. 683 00:41:08,901 --> 00:41:11,469 I found out he'd rented a flat in Ladbroke Grove. 684 00:41:12,339 --> 00:41:13,819 On the fourteenth floor. 685 00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:16,343 What did you do? 686 00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:18,911 Well, I went there. 687 00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,828 He was sitting on the living room floor. 688 00:41:24,612 --> 00:41:27,440 He said he'd tried so hard to stay on his medicine, 689 00:41:27,441 --> 00:41:33,142 so that he'd, get a job as a lawyer or even a teacher. 690 00:41:34,274 --> 00:41:36,581 But that no-one wanted him because he was sick. 691 00:41:38,234 --> 00:41:40,585 He said there was no point in taking his medicine. 692 00:41:41,803 --> 00:41:46,373 He said he'd rented the flat so that he'd be able to jump off the balcony. 693 00:41:49,289 --> 00:41:51,552 His-- he needs somebody... 694 00:41:52,074 --> 00:41:54,162 to make him take his medication. 695 00:41:54,163 --> 00:41:57,993 He's trying to convince you that he's in control. But he can't help himself. 696 00:41:59,691 --> 00:42:02,607 Somebody has to help him, please... 697 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,006 I understand you studied the Bible, 698 00:42:11,485 --> 00:42:13,573 Mr. Smith. The Old Testament in particular. 699 00:42:13,574 --> 00:42:15,141 - Is that right? - Yes... 700 00:42:15,576 --> 00:42:16,795 when I was younger, yeah. 701 00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:21,539 And this was before you became ill is that correct Mr. Smith? 702 00:42:22,061 --> 00:42:24,149 Yes. 703 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:29,284 And these details and these images they stayed with you when you became ill? 704 00:42:29,285 --> 00:42:32,288 In fact, they became the basis of your delusions? 705 00:42:32,593 --> 00:42:33,594 That's right, yeah. 706 00:42:35,465 --> 00:42:36,815 So, does it work the other way? 707 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:39,252 I don't-- I don't understand. 708 00:42:41,341 --> 00:42:43,256 Well, when you're on your medication, as you are now, do you ever have any... 709 00:42:44,126 --> 00:42:47,956 thoughts or memories from the times you've been delusional? 710 00:42:49,697 --> 00:42:50,916 Not really. No. 711 00:42:52,439 --> 00:42:56,574 "Not really. No." So what, you remember some things? 712 00:42:57,662 --> 00:42:58,663 Yeah, occasionally. 713 00:42:59,838 --> 00:43:02,188 - People's faces, perhaps? - Sometimes. 714 00:43:02,449 --> 00:43:03,798 And what about their voices, 715 00:43:04,538 --> 00:43:07,541 do you hear voices, John? Things they might've said? 716 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:11,675 Yeah, I suppose so. 717 00:43:11,676 --> 00:43:14,026 Do you remember your Sister Patricia coming to see you at Ladbroke Grove? 718 00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:15,983 Where? 719 00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:18,030 At the flat, when you were planning to kill yourself. 720 00:43:19,335 --> 00:43:23,731 I wasn't, I was, I was, I was, I was taking my medication then. 721 00:43:24,210 --> 00:43:26,733 - So you weren't delusional at that time? - No, no, no. 722 00:43:26,734 --> 00:43:28,909 What about Joanne Ellis? Do you remember seeing her face? 723 00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:31,085 - No, no. - Do you remember hearing her voice? 724 00:43:31,086 --> 00:43:33,610 She would've been screaming as you came towards her with the bayonet in your hand. 725 00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:34,915 I don't remember. 726 00:43:34,916 --> 00:43:36,787 What about when you pushed her to the ground 727 00:43:36,788 --> 00:43:39,138 or when you brought the bayonet down and you sliced it into her skull? 728 00:43:39,399 --> 00:43:41,487 Perhaps you thought she was a witness? Was that it? 729 00:43:41,488 --> 00:43:42,836 - That she would run away. - I didn't. 730 00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:44,533 Maybe you thought she would call the police? 731 00:43:44,534 --> 00:43:45,926 No, it wasn't that! 732 00:43:45,927 --> 00:43:47,885 - Then what, John? What was it? - I thought that-- 733 00:43:47,886 --> 00:43:51,106 What? What did you think? Explain it to me. 734 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:54,675 - I can't. - Explain it to me, John. 735 00:43:55,067 --> 00:43:59,288 I thought that she-- I thought that they wanted to kill me. 736 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:09,689 I thought that you all wanted me dead. 737 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:14,739 So I had to-- had to stop you. I didn't care how. 738 00:44:18,351 --> 00:44:19,613 No further questions. 739 00:44:32,365 --> 00:44:37,283 John Smith, you have pleaded guilty to the charge of manslaughter. 740 00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:39,677 Yes. 741 00:44:41,417 --> 00:44:45,291 Before sentencing, do you wish to say anything in mitigation? 742 00:44:51,166 --> 00:44:56,519 Yes, I have suffered from schizoaffective disorder since the age of twenty-three. 743 00:44:56,824 --> 00:45:00,741 I am prone to manic depression, paranoid delusions, hallucinations and-- 744 00:45:03,657 --> 00:45:07,007 This paper's full of needles. They, uh, gave it to me to hurt me. 745 00:45:07,008 --> 00:45:08,922 - It cuts and I bleed. - Mr. Smith-- 746 00:45:08,923 --> 00:45:12,231 I heard what Deborah said unto Barak. The Lord will discomfit me and-- 747 00:45:14,929 --> 00:45:15,974 You're looking at me. 748 00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:19,238 I made them do that, Patty. 749 00:45:21,414 --> 00:45:23,415 You look like a pony. Please don't do that, 750 00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:26,723 - otherwise I'll have to leave. - Mr. Smith, sit down. Mr. Luthra, please-- 751 00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:28,725 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 752 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:34,513 This isn't my armor. They took my armor. I absolutely can't wear this armor! 753 00:45:34,514 --> 00:45:40,127 Mr. Smith, we shall take care of your armor once we are finished. 754 00:45:40,128 --> 00:45:43,175 Now, please sit down. 755 00:45:43,915 --> 00:45:44,872 Sitting down. 756 00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:49,137 I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down 757 00:45:49,442 --> 00:45:52,010 I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down 758 00:45:52,445 --> 00:45:56,014 I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down 759 00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:13,074 - Drink? - Uh, sorry. I'll be working late. 760 00:46:14,859 --> 00:46:17,078 You know they've put John Smith on suicide watch? 761 00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:19,080 Mm-hmmm! 762 00:46:20,299 --> 00:46:21,474 He sent me a copy of his closing speech. 763 00:46:22,214 --> 00:46:23,215 Was it any good? 764 00:46:24,259 --> 00:46:26,696 Well-structured, persuasive... 765 00:46:27,915 --> 00:46:30,091 pretty much what I'd have said if I'd been defending him. 766 00:46:31,919 --> 00:46:34,748 So, he really could've been a brilliant lawyer then? 767 00:46:37,882 --> 00:46:39,927 Well, he certainly had potential. 768 00:46:44,889 --> 00:46:46,020 So, you buying then? 66355

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